Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes - June 12, 2018


Get Off My Lawn Podcast #57 | I guess I better talk about this Vice article in New York Mag

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Gavin McInnes
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Shane Smith Spencer Ackerman Bernie Madoff Saroosh Josh Denny Melissa Burgos Jesse Brown Carlos Slim Dana Lash Seinfeld Bigfoot Trump Robin Vanessa Gregora Darius Roaming Millennial Trace Crutchfield Richard Sawinski Anthony Bourdain Harvey Weinstein Reeves Weideman and 37 more
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46 minutes

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648

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29

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105

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31

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A company built on a bullshitter. A company founded by a white supremacist. And a company run by a man who started a magazine with a Pakistani-American man named Saroosh Alvi. This is the story of how Shane Smith and Reeves Weideman started Vice, and how they built a company that was basically a pyramid scheme. And how they managed to get away with it for 25 years, even though it was a scam that cost them millions of dollars in profits. And why it s not just a scam, it s a massive scam. And it s probably not even a scam at all. But it s still a scam. It s a big scam, and it s been going on for a long, long time. And the problem is, Shane Smith s plan for Vice was that by the time the suckers caught on, he d never be stuck owning the company he co-founded by Reeves Wiedeman. And that s why he s not worth a billion dollars. And I m not saying that Vice is not worth anything, but I think there s a good chance that it s worth a lot less than a billion. And there s no question that Vice s a scam too. But that s not the only scam that the internet has always been wrong about what they ve been worth, and that they ve always been a big pyramid scheme, and they ve never been worth anything. And they ve got it all wrong. and that s a lot of people have been wrong, but they re not worth it so why they should be worth anything at all, right? And why they re a scam? And what they re worth it? And how much they re going to start a business in the first place? And are they not? And why are they don t need it? And what s it really worth? and why they ll ever be worth it, you ll have to have a plan to make money? And is it worth it anyway? And who s going to make it? and what s the point of it? I ll tell you what they are going to do with it? What s the difference between them? And will they ll make it in the money they re gonna make it, and are they going to get it? Is it worth anything? And if they can t make it then they ll have it, then it s gonna be good enough? And they ll be okay with it or not? And can they have it?

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00:00:00.000 I guess I better talk about this Vice article in New York Mag.
00:00:03.000 Let me pull it up here.
00:00:05.000 The general gist of it seems to be they're accusing Vice of basically being a pyramid scheme.
00:00:15.000 And no, they're not worth billions and billions and billions.
00:00:20.000 The title is, A Company Built on a Bluff.
00:00:23.000 For almost 25 years, Shane Smith's plan for Vice was that by the time the suckers caught on, he'd never be stuck owning the company he co-founded by Reeves Weideman.
00:00:36.000 Every time I see these articles, I just skim through them.
00:00:40.000 Going, please don't call me racist, please don't call me racist.
00:00:45.000 It gives my wife a panic attack. 1.00
00:00:51.000 Just to sort of jump ahead, there's this writer, I think he's at Daily Beast, Spencer Ackerman, and he goes, company founded by a white supremacist? 0.66
00:00:58.000 Check.
00:00:59.000 Long history of sexual harassment?
00:01:00.000 Check. 0.99
00:01:01.000 Machismo, bullshitter, exploiter? 0.66
00:01:03.000 Check. 0.71
00:01:07.000 And I go, that's, yeah.
00:01:10.000 The company was originally started by Soroush Alvi.
00:01:13.000 He pulled me in to be comic book, like comics cartoon editor on day one.
00:01:20.000 He didn't have any writers and he wrote too slowly, really.
00:01:25.000 It was too meticulous.
00:01:26.000 And I was like, I'll just write the whole magazine.
00:01:29.000 And then after about two years, a year and a half,
00:01:33.000 We realized we need to make money.
00:01:35.000 These, the people that are housing us, it's through a welfare scam, and they're not letting us grow.
00:01:41.000 This is all a government hustle.
00:01:43.000 We got to escape.
00:01:44.000 So we paid them back the money they had paid us.
00:01:49.000 And Shane was the best salesman ever.
00:01:52.000 I'll never deny that.
00:01:54.000 And he started making us money. 0.95
00:01:57.000 But the way you make money is bullshitting. 0.99
00:02:01.000 And 0.97
00:02:02.000 You know, Saroosh's mother is Pakistani.
00:02:06.000 By the way, I'm a white supremacist.
00:02:07.000 I started a magazine with a Pakistani man.
00:02:09.000 I guess we just gritted our teeth and stared at each other every day. 1.00
00:02:13.000 Yeah, you cock suckin' fuckin' eyes. 1.00
00:02:15.000 Oh, I hate you. 1.00
00:02:19.000 Actually, I said that to the guy, the Daily Beast guy, and he goes, you maybe became a white supremacist later. 1.00
00:02:25.000 Yeah, okay.
00:02:26.000 That's what happened.
00:02:28.000 Um, but, uh, uh, yeah, his mother was, she taught Urdu or something, or, you know, Muslim studies. 0.97
00:02:36.000 Uh, Farsi, I don't fucking know.
00:02:40.000 At McGill, which is like the Harvard of Canada. 0.98
00:02:42.000 Both his parents are professors, and I got along very well with them.
00:02:46.000 She's like an academic, so she likes to pontificate, and I like pontificating.
00:02:51.000 It's like pub culture.
00:02:52.000 Plus, you know, I think they were Muslims from India originally, so they were from the Commonwealth.
00:03:00.000 Like, they drank tea and listened to classical music, and they were very British, really, despite the thick Pakistani accents. 0.96
00:03:05.000 But anyway,
00:03:07.000 We used to have this argument, his mother and I, about honesty.
00:03:10.000 She said, there is never a case where you should lie.
00:03:12.000 There is no time where it is justified.
00:03:16.000 Not very Takiyah of her. 1.00
00:03:20.000 And I was like, I have an exception.
00:03:23.000 Ma'am, whose name I forgot. 1.00
00:03:25.000 We were a free newspaper, right?
00:03:27.000 Like the Village Voice in Montreal.
00:03:29.000 There was three of them.
00:03:31.000 They were all lying about their distribution.
00:03:34.000 So we were only making, I think, like 10,000 copies at the time.
00:03:38.000 The Hour was the other one.
00:03:39.000 The Mirror was another one.
00:03:40.000 And they were saying 40.
00:03:43.000 And they were lying.
00:03:46.000 After a while the industry sort of caught up with this lie and they made an audit going.
00:03:50.000 You know what those papers would do after that?
00:03:52.000 They'd make a hundred thousand.
00:03:55.000 There's only 80,000 English people in Montreal.
00:03:57.000 They'd make a hundred thousand.
00:03:59.000 One truck would take the newspapers from the printing plant over to the various distribution spots.
00:04:05.000 The other truck would drive right to the recycling plant and drop them off at recycling.
00:04:10.000 That's the way they could get their numbers up.
00:04:11.000 It's like public schools in New York.
00:04:13.000 I mean truth was long gone.
00:04:15.000 So the problem with sales in a lot of cases is everyone's lying.
00:04:19.000 So if you tell the truth you go bankrupt in a minute. 0.96
00:04:22.000 So yes we used to call Shane bullshit or Shane but that's pretty much the nature of the beast I'm afraid.
00:04:29.000 Now this article's contention is that he took it too far and it's basically a pyramid scheme and it's not worth anything. 0.90
00:04:37.000 I will say
00:04:38.000 That the internet has always been very wrong about what I got paid, my net worth.
00:04:43.000 They've always been wrong about what Shane is worth and what Vice is worth.
00:04:48.000 I think one of the, if you could call it a trick, and I'm not saying this is justified, but I think there's a misunderstanding with big business when you get to be a certain level, where you go, alright, someone bought this many shares at this price, the company's worth that.
00:05:07.000 So if you get 25% for a billion, then the company's worth 4 billion.
00:05:13.000 Nope.
00:05:14.000 A company's only worth what people are willing to pay for it.
00:05:17.000 Now, if you are a CEO whisperer, and you manage to get a guy to pay a billion, that doesn't necessarily mean your company's worth 4.
00:05:24.000 It just means it does according to one guy.
00:05:28.000 And when you're not an IPO, right, when you're a private company that's not publicly listed, it's, it's, if someone wants to pay, if your neighbor loves your car so much, he wants to just own one door, and he pays you a million dollars for the door, that doesn't make your car worth ten million dollars.
00:05:45.000 That just means some guy is really into your car for some reason, and he might eventually buy the whole thing for ten million, but that doesn't mean another neighbor's gonna want a door also for that kind of price.
00:05:56.000 Anyway, uh,
00:05:59.000 Yeah, I was annoyed that he said in the article that my noxious humor.
00:06:07.000 Vice also learned its edginess had to be packaged.
00:06:10.000 In 2008, Alvin Smith bought out McInnes, whose noxious brand of humor, he is now an admired figure in the far right, known to say things like, I'm becoming anti-Semitic.
00:06:20.000 I'm gonna have trouble suing him for that because he's prefaced it with brand of humor.
00:06:25.000 Had defined the magazine's punk voice, but was becoming a financial liability.
00:06:30.000 A year later, Vice hired Andrew Cuomo's communications team to burnish its image.
00:06:36.000 That's relatively legit.
00:06:38.000 Except, I'm Becoming Anti-Semitic was a joke I said when I was doing maybe 15 videos for Rebel in Israel.
00:06:46.000 All pro-Israel, of course. 0.86
00:06:48.000 And then on my own show,
00:06:49.000 I'm ranting away about how annoying our tour guide is, and as a crystal clear joke I say I'm becoming anti-semitic. 0.99
00:06:56.000 Now that's been taken out of context and will follow me forever, of course, and maybe my kids won't be invited to a fucking bat mitzvah because of this liar. 0.98
00:07:03.000 And by the way, one of the reasons that little quote, that joke, 0.98
00:07:07.000 has been used against me so much is this guy Jesse Brown in Canada land is his site and he was a dude who came from Montreal and he wanted to work for us in New York City his parents probably paid for him to come down and stay wherever he wanted and he had this article and it was it was what this is 2000 I'm talking now 18 years ago and it was about how Jews are superior the superior race
00:07:32.000 And he used Seinfeld as an example.
00:07:34.000 George Costanza isn't Mexican, he's Jewish, and Seinfeld's awesome, and it's proof Jews rule. 1.00
00:07:39.000 And I said, I don't like this article.
00:07:41.000 Why not?
00:07:42.000 It's, like, too bourgeois. 0.89
00:07:45.000 Like, New York Magazine had a picture of Larry David on the front, and it said, the Jewish brain. 0.99
00:07:52.000 It was all about how awesome Jewish people are.
00:07:53.000 And it just seemed like such a hoity-toity, you know, pinky-raised, upper-class thing to write about.
00:08:02.000 The inherent eliteness of the Jewish people of the Upper West Side. 1.00
00:08:05.000 We are special, are we not?
00:08:07.000 Like almost British aristocrat-y.
00:08:09.000 And this is when we just moved to New York and I was trying to ingratiate ourselves with like street kids like this gang Iraq and these graffiti kids like ear snot. 0.92
00:08:19.000 And to have an article about the inherent beauty and superiority of this particularly white religion just smelled of like bourgeois Canadian aristocrats. 0.85
00:08:32.000 Let's not invite them to our things in New York and you know make them part of the New York culture. 1.00
00:08:37.000 So I told him to fuck off. 1.00
00:08:38.000 And he never got over that. 1.00
00:08:40.000 And he's been obsessed with me ever since, trying to prove I'm an anti-Semite for almost two decades now.
00:08:47.000 And then this other guy, Spencer Ackerman, probably Jewish too, he's also consumed with this idea.
00:08:53.000 And I've talked about it on other shows where I think this comes from.
00:08:55.000 I think it comes from traumatized grandparents, but they just like, they have all this evidence.
00:09:01.000 I call them not-see glasses, Nazi glasses. 0.86
00:09:04.000 And they just have all this evidence to the contrary that you're not a Nazi, that no one really is.
00:09:08.000 And they're just like, yeah, but in 2003, and Spencer Ackerman does this, he goes, no, I can prove you're a white supremacist.
00:09:14.000 Even though your wife is American Indian, you've got three non-white kids, you started Vice with a Pakistani gentleman, et cetera, et cetera. 0.99
00:09:22.000 Jesus, you know how tired you'd be if you were racist in New York City? 0.71
00:09:25.000 If you're a bigot in New York City, there's like, maybe a fraction of the population is white, straight males.
00:09:35.000 And they're out in South Brooklyn working construction.
00:09:40.000 So then he brings up this New York Times piece, which I've explained in my book in many places, but I'll just repeat it here for fun, where I said, I'm proud to be white.
00:09:46.000 I think it's something to be very proud of, and I think we're diluting our culture, and we have to assimilate to a white Western way of life. 0.98
00:09:52.000 And then the next sentence says, Gavin McInnes claims that though hipsters are annoying, at least they're white. 0.93
00:09:58.000 And of course that sounds terrible and that's been haunting me ever since. 0.81
00:10:02.000 That was 15 years ago.
00:10:03.000 Here's the context for that.
00:10:06.000 Vanessa Gregora Darius, who's not the most tenacious reporter in the world, she's the one who put Mattress Girl on the cover of New York Mag and said, the new sexual revolution. 1.00
00:10:14.000 Anyway, she was having trouble with this article.
00:10:17.000 We're good to go.
00:10:36.000 So I said, what about this angle?
00:10:38.000 I started this company with Saroosh.
00:10:40.000 He's a very proud Muslim, proud to be brown.
00:10:43.000 He's got his jihad ring on. 0.56
00:10:47.000 He thinks that the Muslim world is being persecuted, and that the East is the best.
00:10:53.000 And I'm on the other end of the spectrum.
00:10:55.000 I like being white, compared to him liking being brown. 0.73
00:11:00.000 I think whites are superior. 1.00
00:11:02.000 And I like the West.
00:11:03.000 I think we should close the borders, blah, blah, blah.
00:11:05.000 And so there's an interesting juxtaposition there.
00:11:08.000 Well, you'll have my sort of libertarian stance on things.
00:11:12.000 It's a little bit paleocon.
00:11:14.000 And you'll have his more sort of anti-Western, anti-American, anti-Christian point of view.
00:11:19.000 And here we are, you know, running this magazine together.
00:11:23.000 So that was one thing I said.
00:11:25.000 The editor, she claims it wasn't her and it was the editor, and she also said, I'll never work for the Times again. 0.99
00:11:30.000 They fucked me over. 0.98
00:11:31.000 The editor took out the Soroush Brown part. 1.00
00:11:34.000 And just left the white part and then added, he seems to be a lot more of a white supremacist.
00:11:40.000 And Bill McGowan helped me track down this editor.
00:11:43.000 He's like a rich man in the Hamptons. 0.99
00:11:46.000 And all these rich white people who live in all white areas, they love to just bitch about Nazis. 0.98
00:11:51.000 I think it's a class thing. 0.99
00:11:52.000 It's like Meathead and Archie Bunker, right?
00:11:55.000 You hate the lower classes and you call them racist.
00:11:57.000 And they don't really mean racist.
00:11:58.000 They mean you're lower class. 0.99
00:12:00.000 You're like brutish. 1.00
00:12:03.000 So Nazi just means you're a brute. 1.00
00:12:05.000 You're a Luddite. 0.99
00:12:06.000 You're not as advanced socially as I am. 0.57
00:12:09.000 It doesn't really mean you want to exterminate millions of Jews.
00:12:13.000 Um, so that's the context of that quote. 0.92
00:12:16.000 And then the other line was, uh, uh, at least they're white. 0.71
00:12:23.000 That was an interview in the New York press where we didn't like the New York press. 0.98
00:12:28.000 They were, they were a competition and they, they kept fucking with us and saying, you're not going to be around. 0.98
00:12:33.000 They were real mean. 0.99
00:12:35.000 And we said, yes, we are going to be around.
00:12:36.000 Your entire... Look, I'm getting mad just remembering it. 0.99
00:12:39.000 Your entire ethos is fuck Giuliani, because he was the mayor at the time. 0.99
00:12:43.000 He's not going to be mayor soon. 0.99
00:12:44.000 Your whole identity is based on a temporary mayor.
00:12:48.000 And they did go under, of course.
00:12:50.000 There's a lot of resentment towards Vice, by the way, from all these people who can't make it work.
00:12:55.000 Like this Spencer Ackerman guy used to be at the Guardian.
00:12:57.000 You go on a Guardian article and there's a plea at the bottom of the article saying, please send us money.
00:13:02.000 We're going broke.
00:13:04.000 Like, a handout.
00:13:05.000 It's like a homeless man with his handout at the end of every article. 0.96
00:13:08.000 And that's what's happening to liberal media because they're shitty at their job because they're Bigfoot chasers and tell you Bigfoot is hiding around every corner, but in this case, it's a Nazi. 0.56
00:13:16.000 But anyway, so we were already at a confrontational interview, and I did say that to the guy, but in the context of the interview, it's funny because I'm dressed as a skinhead, Shane is dressed as a soccer hooligan, and Saroosh is wearing a suit, and he has blood all over his face and head, and he's holding a bandage to his head. 0.90
00:13:36.000 He was our hate crime victim, and we were National Front-like English, British, you know, Nazis.
00:13:45.000 That was the joke.
00:13:46.000 In fact, the joke was a parody of the idea that Nazis could work with a Pakistani guy.
00:13:54.000 So once again, and I talked about this with Josh Denny on my show, it's a parody of racism.
00:14:01.000 But they want the Nazis so bad that they just take that out and then it just snowballs and it just follows you for the rest of your life as evidence that you're secretly a Nazi, you're hiding it.
00:14:11.000 Which you also say to that, well why hide it? 1.00
00:14:15.000 Like, I understand maybe secretly being gay, but then, then if you were secretly gay and you liked this guy, there's gonna be that moment where you go to place a kiss on his lips, and he's gonna go, what the fuck are you doing? 0.99
00:14:30.000 So, say you, like, start a secret Nazi organization, there's all these black guys in it, and then you go, okay guys, draw the blinds, we're Nazis. 1.00
00:14:37.000 And then the black guys go, what? 1.00
00:14:40.000 What the fuck? 1.00
00:14:42.000 Well, I guess you're gonna leave now? 1.00
00:14:43.000 Yes, I'm gonna leave! 1.00
00:14:44.000 Why'd you lie and waste my fucking time? 0.99
00:14:46.000 I don't know, I wanted to have mainstream appeal. 0.99
00:14:49.000 Yeah, but now half of us are leaving.
00:14:50.000 Half.
00:14:54.000 99.9%?
00:14:57.000 Anyway, it's an interesting article.
00:14:59.000 It's really, really in-depth, but it basically says that the CEO whispering has come to an end because Disney, I guess, ran the books and said, you're not even close to worth $4 billion.
00:15:15.000 You don't have any money, you're deep in debt, and all these eyeballs you had are fake spam bots.
00:15:21.000 I'm just paraphrasing the article, by the way.
00:15:27.000 And you barely had any viewers to your show.
00:15:31.000 Which makes sense if it's true because you can't be all about millennials and the young people and then choose a dinosaur media like television.
00:15:40.000 No one's going to... young people don't even own TVs.
00:15:44.000 They're on their phones non-stop, which is a vice.
00:15:51.000 Is that everything I had to say about it?
00:15:53.000 Yeah.
00:15:55.000 It's, um... I don't know.
00:15:58.000 I mean, it also talks about Shane having, you know, a $25 million house, and people there, they said there was a common rule called the 22, where you hire a 22-year-old, you pay them 22 grand, and make them work 22 hours a day.
00:16:12.000 That was not my day.
00:16:13.000 Here's the thing.
00:16:14.000 The article says there seems to be a split, and we're not sure when Old Vice and New Vice began and ended.
00:16:21.000 Nice journalism, dude.
00:16:22.000 It's clearly Gavin McInnes.
00:16:25.000 I ran that whole magazine till 2008, and there was a lot of different phases.
00:16:31.000 There was, like, Vice 1 was under the welfare scam.
00:16:35.000 Vice 2 was all our time, the rest of our time in Montreal, 94 to 99.
00:16:40.000 But there's all this talk about, like, sexual harassment culture.
00:16:43.000 There was just the three of us.
00:16:45.000 We had maybe an intern.
00:16:46.000 Oh, they were screwing models. 1.00
00:16:47.000 There's a lot of models in there. 0.99
00:16:49.000 There were never models around.
00:16:50.000 That's a lie.
00:16:52.000 That's just good for the brand.
00:16:56.000 Just tattooed slots.
00:16:58.000 But there was no sort of sexual harassment.
00:17:00.000 There's just three guys working there, living there, sleeping there.
00:17:03.000 The picture in the article is Shane and I in the bathroom of our loft where we also had the
00:17:10.000 Had the magazine and you know the furniture you can see in the bathroom is from the garbage.
00:17:18.000 Um, and uh, so that was one vice.
00:17:22.000 And then, so vice, then we moved to New York in 99 and had tons of money for about a year and a half, two years.
00:17:28.000 That was a whole other scenario.
00:17:30.000 That was a big corporate scenario.
00:17:31.000 That's where that dude wanted to do the juicer awesome thing.
00:17:35.000 And, uh, we were then there with a few other companies that he had, uh, purchased because he wanted to be a multi-lifestyle brand, multi-channel brand it was called.
00:17:45.000 And then there's rumors that this guy was doing his own pyramid scheme.
00:17:50.000 Maybe that's where this technique was learned from.
00:17:53.000 Telling investors he's worth a lot more than he is. 0.99
00:17:55.000 Shit, I never thought about that. 1.00
00:17:56.000 That's Richard Sawinski. 1.00
00:17:58.000 Then we went bankrupt.
00:18:01.000 And we're deep in the hole.
00:18:02.000 300 grand, I believe?
00:18:04.000 And Shane and Saroosh, who were heading the business end, had to handle all that digging as out of a trench.
00:18:10.000 And I, my job didn't really change.
00:18:12.000 In New York, I was just content.
00:18:14.000 So when we were rich, I would just go to bars and find freaks and stories and artists and bands.
00:18:20.000 And then when we were poor, same lifestyle, just going to Max Fish, partying.
00:18:24.000 Those guys didn't really party too much either.
00:18:28.000 And, uh, yeah, they were both homebodies.
00:18:30.000 Sroosh would just rent movies and Shane always had a girlfriend and they would just, I think, have sex and watch TV and eat.
00:18:38.000 Not very social chaps. 1.00
00:18:39.000 They weren't really part of the New York culture.
00:18:41.000 They didn't really have any friends.
00:18:44.000 And they would hang out with each other, too, and go on vacation.
00:18:46.000 That's really kind of what happened with the split, is I fell in love.
00:18:49.000 I was about to get married.
00:18:51.000 I did get married, and then I had kids on the way, and I wasn't one of the boys anymore.
00:18:54.000 I wasn't going on vacation with them, and Shane and I had a house together in Costa Rica, and we'd always go there, and I would rather just be alone with my wife there.
00:19:04.000 Or my other friends, not you guys.
00:19:05.000 I'm sick of seeing you.
00:19:06.000 I see you every day at work and I think there was some rejection there.
00:19:09.000 Who knows?
00:19:11.000 It's usually a combination of like 50 different reasons.
00:19:14.000 But, um...
00:19:17.000 Before I left, we treated our employees really well.
00:19:20.000 And you can go ask them.
00:19:21.000 Go ask, you know, Bryce Fanich or Melissa Burgos or Ryan Duffy, Trace Crutchfield, Leslie Arfin, Amy Kellner, Ryan McGinley, Tim Barber, Melissa Burgos.
00:19:33.000 Go ask any of those people.
00:19:35.000 And they'll say, it was fun.
00:19:36.000 It was Gavin and us going out for beers every lunch.
00:19:39.000 Sometimes partying all night and coming to work after drinking all night and doing coke.
00:19:45.000 It's very hard to type.
00:19:46.000 Hey, cops, if you want to test how wasted someone is, have them type on a typewriter.
00:19:51.000 Sorry, a computer.
00:19:52.000 It's very tricky.
00:19:53.000 It's like harder than walking toe to heel.
00:19:58.000 Anyway, I left around 2008.
00:20:00.000 We had dug out of the hole.
00:20:02.000 Everything was was the balance sheet was back.
00:20:06.000 Post-slavery, we had survived the Civil War, and big business was interested, and I was never interested in big business.
00:20:13.000 My whole model for the company was, first of all, humor, but smart humor. 1.00
00:20:19.000 I always said, do stupid in a smart way, smart in a stupid way. 1.00
00:20:21.000 I've said this a million times, but if you're going to Israel, try to find the best burger. 1.00
00:20:25.000 Don't get into Palestine and all that. 1.00
00:20:27.000 If you're doing a thing on poo, the Vice Guide to Shit, talk to doctors and make it really involved and super serious. 0.98
00:20:34.000 So you get humor out of both of those and a message out of both of those. 0.96
00:20:39.000 And be right and be left and don't don't be PC and be offensive.
00:20:43.000 I mean, the dictionary definition of vice includes the word offensive, which isn't great for business.
00:20:48.000 And I also wanted the editorial and the advertising pitted against each other.
00:20:51.000 I'm sorry if I'm repeating myself.
00:20:52.000 If you listen to all my podcasts, you probably heard this before.
00:20:55.000 Um, but eventually, you know, that is going to experience some metal fatigue of bending it and bending it and bending it and eventually it breaks.
00:21:04.000 And I don't blame those guys for, you know, thinking all we do is dig holes, dig us out of holes, patch up relationships that Gavin severed with some horrible joke.
00:21:17.000 And, uh, I'm sick of it.
00:21:19.000 I want to go to parties and have fun and I want to get involved in the coffee table books and stuff.
00:21:24.000 So I think eventually they just sort of said, we don't want you having a fun job anymore.
00:21:30.000 Let's buy you up. 0.99
00:21:32.000 And I saw where it was going and I'm getting censored and we're having advertorials where we're doing a five page
00:21:39.000 A story on Tiger Beer and how delicious it is in the UK edition.
00:21:43.000 And so it's clearly time to go.
00:21:45.000 And so that was the split between Old Vice and New Vice.
00:21:48.000 And Shane had only done sales before that.
00:21:50.000 And he took over content.
00:21:52.000 And now he was the face of the brand.
00:21:53.000 And then I remember right after I left, it was all about news and how we're merging with CNN and we're gonna be super serious.
00:21:58.000 And I was just like, really?
00:22:00.000 I don't... I was begging you guys to contribute articles for the past 15 years.
00:22:06.000 And you wouldn't.
00:22:07.000 And now you love journalism?
00:22:09.000 Of course that didn't last very long.
00:22:11.000 They stopped, you know, being on air.
00:22:14.000 They never really struck me as content guys.
00:22:18.000 Like, I've always been obsessed, I've always been sort of a pop culture nerd.
00:22:22.000 I don't know.
00:22:43.000 Which my mom bought me when I was, for my 13th birthday.
00:22:46.000 And then I could really make tapes.
00:22:47.000 And you could, you know, redo them if there's a song there that's kind of bugging you.
00:22:51.000 And then you trade them.
00:22:52.000 I'd trade them with people in Britain. 1.00
00:22:53.000 And we'd have, with Maximum Rock and Roll, we'd trade zines and stuff.
00:22:56.000 And then you get into VHS tapes.
00:22:58.000 I really bonded with David Cross on that because we were both, you know, always collecting weird VHS tapes.
00:23:02.000 And there'd be these catalogs that listed a condition.
00:23:04.000 Anyway!
00:23:06.000 Those are content people.
00:23:07.000 And I'm not saying they're better than salespeople.
00:23:09.000 It's just a different DNA.
00:23:11.000 It's a different structure.
00:23:12.000 And you'd be surprised, by the way, how many people in pop culture are pop culture nerds.
00:23:18.000 So these guys eventually get so into it
00:23:47.000 Rob Zombie gets so into the sort of minutiae of trading tapes and this is a guy from that band that they become a band and they become the thing that people trade.
00:23:56.000 And, you know, a company needs that.
00:23:58.000 They need a hipster, a hacker, and a hustler. 1.00
00:24:00.000 I was the hipster.
00:24:01.000 Sroosh was the hacker. 0.97
00:24:02.000 Shane was the hustler.
00:24:04.000 But this article, it's pretty darn vindictive, and I don't really care.
00:24:07.000 People say, you must be loving this, this house of cards.
00:24:10.000 Not really.
00:24:11.000 I mean, it's my ex-wife, and I've been divorced for ten years, so wish her nothing but the best.
00:24:17.000 And I can't help but play devil's advocate, too, on behalf of Shane.
00:24:21.000 And, you know, if someone gets a billion dollars investment,
00:24:25.000 Then what should that sales guy's cut be?
00:24:29.000 I mean, the norm back in the, you know, when we were just a magazine, the norm for, for, uh, print was 20%.
00:24:37.000 So if you bring in a $10,000 ad, you get two grand in your pocket.
00:24:42.000 Thank you for bringing us the ad and the magazine gets eight grand.
00:24:45.000 Um, 20% of a billion is 200 million.
00:24:49.000 I believe that's pretty good.
00:24:51.000 He didn't take 200 million.
00:24:54.000 So, I know CEOs are overpaid, and the wage gap is fucking ridiculous, but I'm of two minds about it sometimes, because you'll hear like, this company was going under, and then the CEO got a bonus, and he got, you know, 400 million bonus. 0.96
00:25:10.000 You go, that does sound fucking ridiculous, especially when the guys on the line are making 60 grand a year. 0.94
00:25:16.000 But, I also think, well, what's the whole story there? 0.94
00:25:20.000 Did he save the company from losing $4 billion?
00:25:24.000 This is not Shane, I'm talking about a hypothetical here.
00:25:26.000 Well then, he kind of deserves $400 million.
00:25:29.000 You know what I mean?
00:25:30.000 Like, big business makes big moves.
00:25:34.000 What about that guy?
00:25:35.000 Have you heard about this dude, uh, who invented a type of cement that's organic?
00:25:39.000 It has bacteria in it that's sort of, uh, in stasis.
00:25:43.000 It's not dead, but it's not alive.
00:25:46.000 And when it gets wet, then there's food around it, and it comes to life, and then mixes with more cement powder, and then the crack heals itself, just like human skin.
00:25:56.000 So this is going to solve the problem of cracked pavements and buildings cracking all over the world.
00:26:01.000 That innovation
00:26:04.000 What about the guy who cures cancer?
00:26:06.000 What does he deserve? $200,000?
00:26:23.000 If you can sequence the genome in seven minutes and save a million lives, I think you deserve quite a bit of dough.
00:26:30.000 So, I can't say if Shane is overpaid.
00:26:34.000 I don't know what he was paid, I don't know what he brought in, but...
00:26:40.000 I think there's a lot of real vindictiveness there.
00:26:43.000 I think people hate Shane because he's arrogant and often people deem him unlikable.
00:26:51.000 But I think it's also the problem with sales guys in general. 0.99
00:26:55.000 They're seen as shitty people. 0.93
00:26:57.000 And I think people want, I think the big picture here is, screw Shane's personality, the big picture here is that a lot of people in journalism are beta males and they have a lot of resentment. 0.96
00:27:11.000 And I think they resent that Shane and Vice and me and Sarouj,
00:27:16.000 Built a successful media empire and it's been around for 20 years when countless others have failed, including the New York Times.
00:27:24.000 Carlos Slim had to bail them out of bankruptcy and they've become a pamphlet for Carlos Slim's agenda.
00:27:34.000 Same with Bezos and Washington Post.
00:27:37.000 So it's very tough to survive in media.
00:27:40.000 And, you know, we were a newsprint, English newsprint in Montreal, and then managed to keep adapting to National, to Glossy Magazine, to multi-channel brand that had stores.
00:27:50.000 The stores started failing.
00:27:52.000 They were cut off.
00:27:52.000 Tried feature films, record labels.
00:27:54.000 I mean, that's impressive.
00:27:56.000 I think the takeaway from Vice, no matter what you think of the personalities behind it, has been you guys really hustled.
00:28:04.000 I mean, people don't even know.
00:28:06.000 We had a clothing line in Britain.
00:28:07.000 We have a pub in London that has its own beer, but plain for a while.
00:28:16.000 And it wasn't from stealing and it wasn't from lying.
00:28:18.000 And at the end of the article, the guy says, he says, uh, no one has lost money yet on this deal.
00:28:25.000 So he's accusing these guys.
00:28:28.000 And by the way,
00:28:29.000 I am a total, I'm as much of a stranger from post Gavin Vice as you.
00:28:32.000 I don't know anything about it.
00:28:34.000 So I can just, this is all, post 2008 is just conjecture.
00:28:37.000 But it ends with him saying, but no one has lost money betting on Shane Smith yet.
00:28:41.000 Isn't that a weird ending? 1.00
00:28:43.000 You spend the entire article calling, including the title, saying that this is all bullshit, a company built on a bluff, this guy's a liar, hustler, it's all fake. 0.99
00:28:54.000 And then you end it with, but no one's lost any money yet, so it seems to be working. 0.99
00:28:59.000 That's not really a pyramid scheme.
00:29:02.000 People have to lose money for it to be a scheme.
00:29:04.000 Actually, that kind of happened with Martin Shkreli.
00:29:06.000 I read that no one actually lost any money from him.
00:29:11.000 I actually think, you know, speaking of Bernie Madoff, and I'm sorry this episode isn't funny.
00:29:15.000 I think I owe you a funny one.
00:29:16.000 We've had like two, three serious ones in a row now.
00:29:20.000 I think a lot of Bernie Madoff people knew it was a hustle.
00:29:24.000 He was giving you a 10% return on your investment.
00:29:28.000 5% is, no one can break 5%.
00:29:31.000 You might, you know, have a good year, where you get up to 7.
00:29:34.000 You might even have a crazy year where you're up to 10. 0.98
00:29:36.000 And, but when that happens, you shit your pants and go, holy shit guys, check it out, I made 10% this year! 0.96
00:29:41.000 But you know that you're gonna have a 1% year. 0.96
00:29:44.000 Or a negative.
00:29:45.000 You're always going to average 5.
00:29:46.000 Bernie Madoff was averaging 10.
00:29:48.000 That is unheard of in the stock market.
00:29:50.000 Unheard of! 0.96
00:29:51.000 So I think a lot of people went, you know what, I'm just going to fucking, this is a pyramid scheme, I'm going to get in and then get out when the money's good. 0.96
00:30:00.000 And it sounds, this is sort of what he's accusing Vice of. 0.95
00:30:03.000 Of being at that part of the Bernie Madoff scheme.
00:30:07.000 But the big picture here is that you can't trust the media.
00:30:12.000 That's really the takeaway for this particular issue.
00:30:18.000 Anything you read, especially in 2018, especially these beta males who have so much baggage like Spencer Ackerman and Jesse Brown and all these Huffington Post guys.
00:30:28.000 And then of course there's the spinsters that run these places with an iron fist threatening all these betas with HR complaints and you know Slate, Salon, Huffington Post. 1.00
00:30:40.000 They are all terrible at their job, and I think all you can glean from their writing is here's some topics you may want to look into.
00:30:50.000 Like when they tell you that Trump is about to ruin the economy,
00:30:56.000 And here's why.
00:30:58.000 It really just means, hey, you should look at the long-term dangers of tariffs and if they might affect America.
00:31:04.000 Because you're not getting that from that article.
00:31:06.000 It's more like a syllabus.
00:31:08.000 It's like modern journalism is just like some point form notes saying, hey, here's some things.
00:31:13.000 80% of them are lies, but you may want to look into them and see which, find the 20% of this article that's true on your own.
00:31:19.000 So it's a homework assignment at the end of the day.
00:31:22.000 Reading the paper, especially beta bloggers,
00:31:26.000 Is getting a homework assignment.
00:31:31.000 I think that's all I have to say about it, right?
00:31:35.000 That it was wonderful when I was there, and I have no... I have nothing to say about when we left.
00:31:41.000 I have some exciting news, though.
00:31:44.000 I did... I have a new sponsor.
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00:31:47.000 And because... I'm not going to just read copy, so you don't have to worry about this being boring like every other read.
00:31:56.000 But it's an awesome holster.
00:31:58.000 Actually when I talk to these guys I get kind of sad because I still don't have a concealed carry.
00:32:03.000 I have plenty of guns but they're all long guns and I have cop friends and I see them with their guns and I just I want to weep.
00:32:11.000 I actually suggested a commercial where they we
00:32:14.000 We have a guy who's in New York City hearing all these people in the South and Arizona talk about their holsters and their guns and all their, like, Dana Lash.
00:32:22.000 Dana Lash has so many guns that she had to move because her gun room was too full. 1.00
00:32:30.000 And when you hear it as a New Yorker who's sane, by the way, not these liberals, I honestly want to shed a tear because I'm so, I'm very rarely jealous.
00:32:39.000 But if you have more than three kids and you have a concealed carry, I'm jealous of you.
00:32:43.000 I'm still applying.
00:32:44.000 I've never stopped applying for my concealed carry.
00:32:47.000 This latest woman, she made me a hundred dollar bet that it's going to work this time. 1.00
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00:32:59.000 The holster is called We The People, and it's made of this plastic called Kydex that's very easy to mold.
00:33:08.000 It's sort of heat molds.
00:33:10.000 And the beauty of this holster is when you take it out, shoot, you can put it back easy.
00:33:15.000 Some of these softer holsters, you go to put it back and it's not easy to do, which in a dangerous situation, you don't want to have your gun on you.
00:33:23.000 You know, sorry, that's a terrible thing to say.
00:33:25.000 In a dangerous situation, when you pull out your gun, you also want to be able to reholster it.
00:33:30.000 If you have something else going on, and then pull it out again.
00:33:32.000 Maybe in a situation that's like an hour long, that's involving some real danger, you may want to have your gun in and out of your holster like five times.
00:33:41.000 That's the beauty of this.
00:34:00.000 And we can really hold there and I said, so, I mean, it's got a lot of assets.
00:34:04.000 The re, reholstering sounds cool and you, you custom make them and everything, but it's also very beneficial for fatsos.
00:34:12.000 And the woman next to me goes, uh, Gavin's show is a kind of a comedy show and he likes to joke around.
00:34:17.000 So it's a, it's a little unorthodox.
00:34:19.000 Some of the things that he says.
00:34:20.000 And then the guy was like, relax.
00:34:22.000 Yes, that is true.
00:34:24.000 It is handy for the fatties like me.
00:34:28.000 See, that's how men talk to each other. 0.52
00:34:28.000 Um, 0.52
00:34:31.000 We insult each other.
00:34:32.000 It's like Joe Rogan says, men are mean to each other's faces and totally kind about each other behind our backs. 0.88
00:34:39.000 Women are nice to each other face to face and then just rip them to shreds behind their backs. 1.00
00:34:46.000 Like a man will go up to a fat friend and he'll put his arms around him and he'll just grip his fat and he'll go, you are the fattest and most disgusting pig in the entire universe. 1.00
00:34:58.000 And that man who's having his belly grabbed will go, 1.00
00:35:01.000 I am enormous and then they'll both laugh.
00:35:05.000 I've told this story before but I used to run an ad agency.
00:35:08.000 We sold it to Havas called Rooster New York and I would go on the road with this guy Sebastian who looks like Thor and we'd be brushing our teeth in the bathroom and so we're we'd share a hotel and we're looking each other in the in the
00:35:21.000 In the mirror, you know?
00:35:23.000 One of us will have just had a shower and he'll look and he goes, look at this.
00:35:26.000 And points to his own face.
00:35:28.000 Look at this Greek Adonis.
00:35:29.000 Look at these high cheekbones.
00:35:30.000 Look at this flaxen hair.
00:35:32.000 Look at this chin.
00:35:34.000 Look at the bone structure.
00:35:35.000 My broad shoulders.
00:35:37.000 It's like looking at a Greek god, okay?
00:35:39.000 You got it?
00:35:40.000 I'm like brushing my teeth.
00:35:41.000 Uh-huh.
00:35:42.000 And then he turns to me and he goes, and now look at this.
00:35:46.000 Look at these wrinkly eyes.
00:35:48.000 Look at the blotchy, alcoholic skin.
00:35:51.000 Sporadic hair sticking out of a chinless neck. 0.57
00:35:57.000 Balding.
00:35:58.000 I mean, the hair's okay, but look at the products you need to make it like that.
00:36:02.000 And I would laugh my head off. 0.85
00:36:04.000 If a woman did that to another woman, they'd both kill themselves after. 1.00
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00:37:03.000 How are we doing for time, Dave?
00:37:04.000 Do you know when we started this?
00:37:08.000 Oh, we're running out of time.
00:37:10.000 There were some other things I wanted to get to that were not vice related.
00:37:13.000 Oh yeah, speaking of men and women, I thought this was kind of interesting.
00:37:16.000 The mayor of London said that there's too many men, like if you look at Wikipedia, there's all these men stories and men being represented and there's barely any women.
00:37:28.000 We need to close that gap.
00:37:29.000 And I've heard people say that about action movies and movies in general.
00:37:32.000 Most movies are about men and that's clearly an example of sexism.
00:37:37.000 Here's a radical belief.
00:37:40.000 Women's lives don't lend themselves to stories. 1.00
00:37:45.000 Now that sounds super sexist, right?
00:37:48.000 But I think women are wizards, right? 1.00
00:37:50.000 Women are magic. 1.00
00:37:52.000 They do this magic thing with their body where a human comes out.
00:37:55.000 And then, even after that, like the way my children and I interact is more like, hey buddy, what's that?
00:38:01.000 The way my son, like especially when they're young, the way they interact with their mother is like,
00:38:09.000 It's this ethereal force that they have together.
00:38:14.000 I mean, I just, I love my kids like crazy.
00:38:18.000 Oh, good night.
00:38:18.000 Love you.
00:38:19.000 Um, and it's just nice and I'm there to protect them and I'll happily die for them and shoot anyone who goes near them. 0.99
00:38:25.000 Uh, but my wife is more than that with the kids. 1.00
00:38:28.000 It's, it's an intangible thing that you, you couldn't write down, let alone put in a story.
00:38:34.000 So,
00:38:36.000 They are more valuable to society.
00:38:38.000 And look at spiders, right?
00:38:39.000 A giant spider will get inseminated by a little male spider and then they'll just, then he'll go, do you want to eat me? 0.93
00:38:44.000 Because I've done my job.
00:38:45.000 Now we need you to do your magic. 0.54
00:38:46.000 And the black widow's like, yeah, sure.
00:38:48.000 Eat some up.
00:38:51.000 So, they're more consequential than us, but it's less story-ish.
00:38:56.000 Like, you're not going to have a Wikipedia page about a woman named Gladys Hepburn, who had 13 kids, and loved them to death, and had a stable relationship with no infidelities, and was married for 35 years.
00:39:11.000 Boring, but invaluable, like amazing, and those 13 functional, happy people went on to be, you know, successful tradesmen and professionals, and then they had four kids because they loved their childhood so much, and they wanted their kids to have the same kind of joy, so that joy went out exponentially.
00:39:32.000 That's way more
00:39:35.000 Good for society and has way more impact than Blackbeard, but I'd rather see a story about Blackbeard, because it's short and sweet and he's got a sword and he jumped from a boat to a boat and chopped a guy's head off.
00:39:45.000 Cool.
00:39:47.000 So, just because women aren't in as many stories as men or women aren't in Wikipedia as often as men,
00:39:55.000 Doesn't have anything to do with their value or how much they're appreciated.
00:39:59.000 It says more about stories themselves.
00:40:03.000 Like an acid trip.
00:40:05.000 Not a lot of books are written about an acid trip.
00:40:09.000 But an acid trip is a wild ride that'll change your life forever.
00:40:15.000 Like, I've had epiphanies on Magic Mushrooms that I still think about today.
00:40:20.000 For example, I was maybe 14, 15, we were on Magic Mushrooms, which is like LSD but smaller.
00:40:27.000 It's sort of like LSD is Batman and Magic Mushrooms is Robin.
00:40:31.000 So we were on Robin.
00:40:33.000 And we were like, I wonder what's going on in that house?
00:40:34.000 We were walking around the suburbs.
00:40:36.000 And I just sort of could see through the house all of a sudden.
00:40:42.000 And I could see inside.
00:40:43.000 And I saw Dad reading the paper.
00:40:45.000 I saw a kid watching TV.
00:40:47.000 And I saw Mom upstairs in the bath.
00:40:49.000 And nothing else interesting.
00:40:51.000 Nothing else.
00:40:51.000 Not that that's interesting.
00:40:52.000 Nothing interesting going on.
00:40:53.000 And I realize we imbue all this like gossip and, oh, there's probably an orgy going on in there.
00:40:59.000 But once you peel back the layers, if you could see into people's lives, read all their emails from like the past week, you're not going to find like a plot to kill the president or a gun trading ring or, you know, orgies going on.
00:41:11.000 You're just going to be like, hey, did I leave my socks there?
00:41:14.000 And it's not that people are boring, but people are just trying to get through the day.
00:41:20.000 And they're not up to no good.
00:41:22.000 There's not this secret cabal.
00:41:24.000 And that was a real sort of eye-opener for me.
00:41:28.000 Not a great story.
00:41:29.000 You don't really want to see that in a movie.
00:41:32.000 I don't even know how you would put it in a movie.
00:41:35.000 And that's a woman's life. 1.00
00:41:36.000 It's this magical, trippy, spacey thing that doesn't lend itself to a Wikipedia page.
00:41:41.000 And we keep trying to make women men. 1.00
00:41:45.000 And say, they need to be in a movie where she's doing roundhouse kicks. 1.00
00:41:50.000 No, she doesn't need to do that. 0.90
00:41:53.000 Uh, okay, that was important.
00:41:55.000 I wanted to get out.
00:41:55.000 And then I also want to talk about Asia Argento cheating on Anthony Bourdain.
00:41:59.000 And I wanted to talk about my black eye.
00:42:01.000 And I wanted to talk about, uh, but yeah, also Asia Argento saying Harvey Weinstein raped me, but then not pressing charges. 0.89
00:42:10.000 So you're kind of letting a rapist loose by not doing that.
00:42:13.000 That's she's got a lot of culpability here. 1.00
00:42:16.000 She arguably,
00:42:18.000 Uh, facilitated dozens of rapes and a suicide.
00:42:22.000 So, not exactly hero material, Asia.
00:42:25.000 I also wanted to talk about this willingness the left has to let America burn to the ground just out of spite, like Bill Maher said he wanted the economy to suffer so it would hurt Trump. 0.98
00:42:36.000 And all these people pissed off about the- the meeting Kim Jong-un and saying, oh fuck, who cares? 0.99
00:42:41.000 It's just a mee- it's just a photo op! 0.99
00:42:44.000 And how vindictive that is, but I explain all that on my show, Get Off My Lawn.
00:42:48.000 Which you have to subscribe to.
00:42:49.000 And just to do a little more hawking, when I started at CRTV, there was only about five shows.
00:42:59.000 And, you know, most of them were just sort of explaining the news, and there's Steven Crowder and Levin and some other big ones.
00:43:05.000 Now there's tons and tons of shows.
00:43:08.000 There's at least three times the content that there was when I started a year ago.
00:43:14.000 And even my shows, I have two shows now.
00:43:17.000 So it's definitely worth checking out.
00:43:20.000 Even if, just check it out and then cancel your subscription if you don't like it.
00:43:25.000 I mean, Roaming Millennial, who is a nine, just went to England to sort of get the heartbeat, the real sort of street taste of what's going on with Tommy Robinson in England and talk to people there on the streets about how they feel to get the sort of temperature.
00:43:42.000 I don't think they've ever met a cop in their life.
00:43:45.000 I don't think they like cops.
00:44:12.000 And by the way cops are involved in my black eye story, but you have to go to get off my lawn to get all the juicy gossip It's it's not Tuesday's episode.
00:44:20.000 It's all explained on Monday's episode, but all of these Subjects I just alluded to but didn't get into depth on the Argento and we want America to fail and my black eye That's all discussed in depth with funny pictures and videos on get off my lawn at CRTV.com done hacking hawking
00:44:39.000 And hacking.
00:44:41.000 I'm done talking about Vice, hopefully forever.
00:44:45.000 And I'm done being serious.
00:44:48.000 This is, what, the Tuesday show?
00:44:49.000 I promise the next show will be centered on comedy.
00:44:51.000 And speaking of comedy, by the way, check out Josh Denny on Get Off My Lawn, discussing all these people trying to get him fired for what could not be more obvious jokes.
00:45:01.000 My favorite one, imagine wanting someone fired for this. 0.99
00:45:05.000 He goes, hey, Asian girl at the pool, can you close your legs? 1.00
00:45:07.000 We don't want to see your slanty pussy. 1.00
00:45:11.000 That's racist? 1.00
00:45:12.000 You really think a bonafide, like, genuinely angry racist man would say that sincerely?
00:45:18.000 No. 1.00
00:45:18.000 In fact, it's dumbing yourself down and portraying yourself as a stupid idiot to essentially mock racism. 1.00
00:45:26.000 It's retard humor. 1.00
00:45:27.000 It's sort of like when Kurt Metzger heard about the Sarnoff brothers blowing up all those people in the Boston Marathon and he went, what?
00:45:34.000 Dinosaurs did this to us?
00:45:36.000 You're doing a Homer Simpson character.
00:45:38.000 Anyway, I'm explaining comedy.
00:45:39.000 Nothing is less funny than that.
00:45:42.000 I'll see you... Well, I'll see you tomorrow on Get Off My Lawn.
00:45:46.000 No, I'll see you tonight on Get Off My Lawn.
00:45:48.000 With Josh!
00:45:49.000 Talking about what I just said!
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