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00:00:09.000Did you ever know a... This is the sort of thing where you have to abandon what you initially want to say and just say, did you ever know a sleepwalker?
00:00:18.000You can't just... Now that sounds like some sort of zombie though.
00:00:21.000Did you ever know someone who had a sleepwalking problem?
00:00:24.000Did you ever know someone who sleepwalked?
00:00:38.000You know, I think the reason it's so good is...
00:00:41.000That the Vikings were in, you know, Scotland, what's now Scotland, and there was no women there, and they were sitting around a big oak table, and they started stripping down English, which is Germanic, I believe, it comes from, has German roots, and they just cut out all the frills.
00:00:58.000So no more masculine and feminine nouns, just words, and no more fancy umlauts and circumflex and accents, just like, that is my sword.
00:02:12.000If you're trying to lay a French girl, all of a sudden you care.
00:02:15.000And I gotta say, I think there's something about English people, English speakers, maybe it's Westerners, I don't know what we are, but um, we're really eager.
00:02:23.000I remember my, this guy was looking after my place in Costa Rica, Jason, this, this surfer.
00:02:27.000I did a whole podcast on him, I believe.
00:02:31.000But I remember he was always like, is it esto marrearta or marrearta?
00:02:36.000Like, really working on his accent, and trying to get it right, and asking about, you know, weird little sayings and things that only Spanish people get, or ticos as they're called in Costa Rica.
00:02:45.000Uh, getting all the inside jokes right, and when you can say that, and when you say thanks, and when you say it's like 10 to 4, but you don't say it's 30 to 4, you say it's 3.30.
00:03:54.000I mean, with George W. Bush, he made malapropisms and misnomers, and it was embarrassing.
00:04:01.000I remember, I was never a Bush fan, he's a neocon, but I remember they had that Bush speak, and it was this CD, this is back in CD days, and it was all the dumb things he said, and even though he was my enemy, I didn't enjoy it.
00:04:22.000Oh God, it's the funnest presidency ever.
00:04:25.000I don't see how the left can't see that.
00:04:27.000But anyway, Jamie McCabe was this guy I used to go tree planting with.
00:04:32.000and uh he was a sleepwalker again that sounds too zombie but um he goes so we would usually camp in tents in the cutover at the base but sometimes if we were lucky and we were transitioning and and uh
00:04:49.000Or if you were a foreman and you were going to scout new land, you got to stay in a motel.
00:09:18.000He has split personalities, I guess, in that sense.
00:09:21.000I once met this girl who told me she had multiple personalities.
00:09:26.000Now, when you get to this age, you look back at all these stories that you liked about all your life and the incredible stories, and you realize, wait a minute, that could have been bullshit.
00:09:35.000Like my friend Derek was with on 9-11.
00:09:37.000He, uh... His mom was in the towers, and I'm looking back now going, I think you were fucking lying, dude.
00:09:48.000Anyway, um, so she's told me that she had multiple personalities and they were trying to kill her and she went to see a psychiatrist and the psychiatrist, uh, the other personalities found out about it.
00:10:03.000Obviously you find out you're in the person's brain and they were pissed.
00:10:07.000And so they wanted to kill her and she would wake up and there'd be notes saying, if you ever see him again, you're going to fucking die.
00:10:15.000She also told me that she woke up once and her chest of drawers was on fire.
00:10:21.000And one of the personalities had woken up and tried to burn her room down.
00:12:41.000Who would cheap out and they'd ruin the whole thing.
00:12:43.000That's why I hate getting dinner with more than three or four people.
00:12:47.000Because it's always some cocksucker who doesn't pay the full thing and you get the bill and it's $340 and you count all the money and it's 200 bucks.
00:12:58.000And you go, oh, I guess I'll just throw in another 140.
00:13:03.000One time I was at one of these big dinners.
00:13:05.000It was actually Matt Sweeney's girlfriend.
00:16:38.000Anyway, it's, that's probably why Andrew survived.
00:16:40.000Cause if he was a real party hard serious dude who did heroin and coke, like he'd be like Chris Farley and John Belushi and Amy Winehouse and all those other
00:17:22.000We've been best friends from since we were 22.
00:17:27.000You ruined my wedding with your speech.
00:17:33.000By the way, the way you ruined my wedding, the first time we met, we were 21, 22, 21, 1991 in Vancouver, and people in Vancouver are boring.
00:17:44.000All they do, like all West Coasters, they watch TV in the day and smoke pot and laugh at how bad it is.
00:21:16.000So anyway, that's why he shot his mouth off.
00:21:19.000By the way, I saw Derek Beckles' new show, and despite the fact that he stabbed me in the back, uh, I gotta admit, it looks unbelievably good.
00:23:49.000And there'd be a plaque, we're not gonna say it didn't happen, but there'd just be like a nice plaque, nice statue going, September 11th, these buildings were gone for a couple days.
00:26:54.000I'm gonna have all these girls wear blonde wigs, and they'll be riding around in a- wearing all white, with white wigs, in a white stand-up limousine.
00:30:12.000And there were stories, you can look this up, about firemen going down to the Rolex shop underneath the World Trade Center during the smoke and looting it.
00:30:22.000Now, I know many men died there, and I would never trivialize their bravery.
00:30:26.000In fact, I would argue that this Rolex thing is what trivializes their bravery.
00:32:34.000By the way, Sprague was never the same.
00:32:36.000I don't even know if he's alive anymore.
00:32:38.000I think he got into heroin after that.
00:32:41.000But he- No, no, none of us were the same after 9-11.
00:32:43.000In fact, this- I was gonna say this to the end, but, you know, I get a lot of criticism.
00:32:47.000They call me racist and blah blah blah and homophobic and none of that is true.
00:32:51.000But, Islamophobe, I think, is a pretty accurate, uh, uh, way to describe me.
00:32:57.000I definitely, from that day forward, I wasn't really that political before then, I definitely wasn't right-wing, but I had just read Death of the West by Pat Buchanan shortly before that, where he all but predicted this, and that day I went, it's us and them.
00:34:23.000And Yasser Arafat walked out of the room and said, uh, I have to take a phone call and didn't return.
00:34:29.000He can't, if he negotiated any kind of settlement, no matter how good it was,
00:34:34.000If it didn't involve killing all Jews in Israel, he would get killed.
00:34:38.000So, there's no authority in Palestine that can negotiate a deal, and I believe that's indicative of the Islamic mentality, which is, I don't want a deal.
00:37:28.000The story I got was that she was going to make some photocopies but the photocopier didn't work and she had a presentation to do so she took the elevator down
00:37:37.000from the first tower, went into like a Kinko's nearby where she could see the tower, did her photocopies and saw the tower collapse where her purse was.
00:37:45.000Notice I'm not crying anymore because I don't believe this story, it's too perfect.
00:37:48.000And then she walked over the bridge or the tunnel, the jersey, walked through the Holland Tunnel I guess, covered in ash like a ghost and that's why she wasn't answering calls or calling anyone.
00:38:04.000Anyway, I believed it back then, and I kept pretending she was going to be okay, even though I was sure she was dead.
00:38:12.000And then he called his brother Collect, and we were all obviously totally aware of this, and Emily had met all her friends, so it was half chicks, half dudes at Doc Holidays, which is a wonderful bar to this day.
00:40:25.000Ryan McGinley and his buddies, they went down there the next day, I believe, or maybe that same day, that night, on their BMXs with bandanas around their necks because of the ash.
00:40:41.000I'm not doing the drama credit here because, I don't know, I'll just sit here and bawl my eyes out like a fag.
00:40:49.000It won't be a very good podcast, so I'm keeping it light.
00:40:52.000But you have to know that it was the most dramatic event to happen to anyone in New York City.
00:40:57.000In fact, I can't remember who said this, but around 2008 they said, the way you can tell you're a real New Yorker is if you've lived here for 10 years or you were there for 9-11.
00:41:08.000And people, you know, they say never forget, but they're so worried about offending Muslims in New York City.
00:41:15.000Like, remember that girl who had her hijab stolen?
00:41:18.000Everyone was bending over backwards to appease her.
00:41:20.000God forbid someone should touch a piece of cloth on someone's head.
00:41:37.000We did forget that Islam is a dangerous religion.
00:41:41.000You know, there's... And the people go, why are you so obsessed with Islam?
00:41:44.000I go, watch two towers fall and get back to me.
00:41:48.000Watch a city of zombies walking up from southern Manhattan covered in ash like ghosts.
00:41:54.000They just keep appearing and appearing.
00:41:56.000It was honestly like something out of Ghostbusters, where they open some vault that wasn't meant to be open and all these dead ghosts were just walking up through the streets catatonic.
00:42:06.000With their their eyes wide open stumbling around not knowing what's going on Not knowing where their co-workers are if they're dead or not.
00:42:14.000I just remembered something else horrific There was a church in there was all churches but there was a There's a church near 9-eleven where people were putting up pictures laminated pictures of their loved ones saying missing
00:42:49.000I heard that Vampire Weekend were formed from a lot of the kids of these rich finance dudes because areas like Westchester, all the dads were working in Wall Street.
00:43:00.000So you had a whole generation of rich kids with dead dads who now had all this money and were losing their minds because their father just passed away.
00:43:41.000But, um, yeah, for days after that, I had to show my utility bills, because I was in the Lower East Side, and that was, it was like, uh, uh, Houston Street and South were sort of considered a war zone, unless you were, you know, way, way out in the West Village.
00:45:44.000WeThePeopleHolsters.com supplies molded plastic holsters with breaking-edge technology where you can control the cant on the ride and how it handles in your pocket.
00:46:29.000And I'm done with this show, and I don't want to talk about 9-11 for a long time, but I would appreciate it if you could be a little less tolerant of Islam.