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00:00:08.000It sounds like at first glance you go that sounds fun Because I think of a world where like my wife it was in fashion PR when I met her and she'd be working with these gay dudes and they were just
00:00:20.000get up from their desk and go, I'm kind of horny.
00:00:52.000Just imagine as a straight man, you're just like, oh God, I wouldn't mind grabbing some boobs right now, some big double D's.
00:01:00.000And then you just get up from your desk and you go down some weird alleyway and there's like some bandana in your back pocket that says, I love double D's.
00:01:08.000You know how they have like their bandanas?
00:01:10.000And then some woman with gigantic tits goes, oh, a red bandana.
00:01:14.000He'd like me to slap him in the face with my gigantic tits.
00:01:16.000And then she slaps you around and you go, that was cool.
00:02:23.000And then your kids, so that's a whole life.
00:02:25.000And then your kids grow up and they go to college and stuff, right?
00:02:30.000And then you have empty nest syndrome and you're kind of freaked out and you sell the house, you get a smaller place, maybe you move back to the city.
00:02:37.000And then you go to plays and stuff, God forbid, and you drink wine.
00:02:41.000And then you do like, my parents do these house swaps where they, someone from France will go stay in their house and they'll go stay in their house.
00:06:08.000Oh yeah, it takes years to learn to ride a horse.
00:06:11.000It's basically like being fluent in Icelandic.
00:06:16.000That's why at tourist places in Costa Rica, there's a massive lineup of tourists from all over the world lining up to rent a horse so they can go on a horse walk.
00:06:26.000I almost saw a horse cream this girl I was seeing at the time.
00:06:31.000And uh, I forgot this podcast is dirty, but yeah, no, she was just, she was like showing off and the thing like belted her off the thing, like the guy earlier today from the show, from Get Off My Lawn, the show.
00:07:07.000Now, what's the line between you being a monkey, where I say, do a little monkey dance, monkey, and me laughing that you're talented and can do an imitation?
00:08:29.000Then you're 18, though, and you move to the West Village or San Francisco or London or, you know, a myriad of... Every big city basically loves gays in the Western world, which I don't know why we're not getting more accolades from the gays, by the way, for that.
00:08:44.000Like, shouldn't gays be saying thank you?
00:08:47.000Shouldn't they be going, wow, we're sure glad we're not in Afghanistan or something like that?
00:08:53.000I think that this is sort of where I come from with my Western chauvinism.
00:09:23.000So I'm hanging out in Jamaica after all the shit hit the fan recently and I just grabbed my family because I was known as a white supremacist.
00:09:30.000So I grabbed my family and went to hang out with my friends in Jamaica.
00:09:34.000And, uh, I was talking to the guy who's looking after the place, Jamaican guy, and we were talking about Boojoo Banton, and, you know, there's a whole Boojoo Banton episode, a few episodes ago, and, uh, we were talking about Batty Boys, which is what they call gays.
00:09:51.000And he said the weirdest thing I've ever heard.
00:09:53.000He goes, oh it's on my wedding night, you know, and I'm with my wife and we're hanging out and I hear a guy scream, you know, he's a screaming away, you know, and I check it out and and he's like a cat, you know, when a cat hears a firecracker, he's a running, he's a running through the hotel, you know, he's got Babylon closing in on him, you know,
00:10:16.000And I run down and I look back and there's like three guys chasing him with a machete, you know?
00:13:05.000Adam Carolla says this, he goes, for, you know, society's based on penises and vaginas, and for a group to come along and go, what about buttholes?
00:13:47.000So anyway, sorry to get back to the main premise.
00:13:51.000So then you move to the West Village, let's say ideally, and you have a pair of red leather short shorts, and you have glitter on your eyelids, and you have fake eyelashes, and your name's Jasanti, and you have a string vest, and you're in good shape, and you just, like, rip your anus to shreds.
00:14:23.000And I would argue, I just thought of this right now, that the oppression you felt in the previous four years kind of gets erased by the intense partying that gays do when they finally come out of the closet and go there.
00:14:36.000In fact, I have a theory that we're all kind of faggy deep down in the way we behave.
00:15:23.000My parents would have a party on Wednesday and I had to go to school the next day.
00:15:26.000So I would come out at nine years old and there'd be like 15 boomers in my living room just dancing their ass off, smoking that shitty pot they had with the branches and the seeds in it and fucking drinking and
00:15:41.000And boomers in the 70s would just fall asleep at a party.
00:15:44.000So I would come outside of my bedroom at maybe, not late, like 11 p.m.
00:18:08.000And then you turn 18 and you go to the West Village, and you're finally away from your parents and your sad dad and all this shit, and you're like, hello boys!
00:18:16.000And instead of going, well man, I'm a normal person, you're like, let's rock it out!
00:18:22.000Like my wife told me about some, she's a total fag hag, all her friends are gay, and she told me about some party she went to where this guy came out and he came bursting out of this like paper sheet, and he goes, it's great to be here, and it's great to be gay!
00:18:39.000That's the kind of thing you... That's very symbolic, by the way.
00:18:44.000He's bursting out of all this oppression, and he... Like, say you were a black guy, and you were told, black people suck, black people suck, and you were like, hello, how are you today?
00:18:54.000And you had to talk like a white dude, like in the movie Get Out, from 14 to 18.
00:19:00.000And then you move to a black hood, and it was like, yo dawg, what's up?
00:24:04.000Young gays are called twinks and older gays are called trolls.
00:24:08.000So what these trolls do is they will buy gays and they'll say, hey, they'll have a twink over and they'll buy him like a fucking iPhone or something or take him shopping at Louis Vuitton and have sex with him.
00:25:26.000The real huge deal, I think, is post 35, they don't really get to graduate into the same adulthood the rest of us do.
00:25:34.000And yes, I know some adopt and synthesize a normal, you know, marriage and a normal fraternal, not fraternal, a normal patriarchal society with kids and stuff, but it's...
00:25:50.000I mean, at best, it's a synthesization.
00:27:05.000I, as I said on my show the other day, I had too many maker's marks after work and I went careening off of a parked car so bad that I feel like a World War II vet right now.
00:27:47.000But God set up a system where we have our crazy years and then we do this and then we meet a girl and then we have babies and then we stop being crazy and then they have kids and they go through the same cycle and we're all part of the process.
00:28:02.000So when you have grandkids or whatever, you're all part of the chain.
00:28:36.000A murderer, he's ostracized from society.
00:28:38.000You kill someone, you have nightmares every night, you can't get married, no one wants to sleep with you, you're not part of the community, and you're shunned.
00:28:54.000Experience a similar sort of societal ostracization where they're not going to have kids, they're not even in a cool liberal enclave, you know, like the West Village in New York, you're still not going to be part of the grand scheme of things.
00:29:13.000Genetically, you're not part of the grand scheme of things and that must chip away that must lead to I Don't know suicide the gay suicide rate is higher than the straight suicide rate.
00:29:23.000I assume I know the trans suicide rate is off the off the charts but that must lead to a sense of Not belonging and and
00:29:36.000I wouldn't be surprised if that sense of not belonging leads to a sense of resentment.
00:30:31.000So I'm sort of scanning, there's probably about 15-20 people there, and I'm sort of scanning the room and I'm horny for Trump.
00:30:41.000And there's this guy, he's like the son of one of my wife's parents' fucking cousins, uncles, whatever.
00:30:50.000And we were talking about corporate taxes and he goes, well, I don't know.
00:30:55.000I think maybe, you know, take it easier in the corporations and they're more likely to hire more people, probably better for the whole country overall.
00:31:02.000I mean, why punish a corporation for making money?
00:31:06.000And then we met eyes across the room like, what did you just say?
00:31:11.000And then I sort of shimmied over to him and I go, yeah, I mean, it's counterintuitive, obviously, to reward someone for being a billionaire, but wouldn't that just keep the money in the country?
00:32:15.000But Trump's saying that he's building the wall now.
00:32:17.000And we were just like... It was like gays having sex.
00:32:21.000But like passionately and impatiently, like the scene from Brokeback, but like sped up, like spitting in the hand, fucking grabbing hair, grabbing the thigh, ripping the shirt off.
00:32:31.000And you're like, we have to go back in there.
00:32:33.000It was literally like the scene in Brokeback Mountain on Fast Forward.
00:32:37.000And then we bought the beer and we got back in the car and still...
00:32:42.000Because we haven't talked about it the whole time we've been there.
00:32:46.000And then we get back to the rented house, and he goes in one direction, and I go to the other direction, and I put the beer in the fridge, and we don't look at each other again.
00:33:00.000And I've seen on the internet people giving me shit for that analogy, like it trivializes, you know, Stonewall or whatever, or some like gay bashing and shit.
00:33:08.000But, you know, Joe Vivald got bottled in the face for wearing a MAGA hat.
00:33:19.000And then MAGA on the back and people be like, what is that shirt?
00:33:23.000But you'll just kind of put stuff because here's the thing like when I meet people from That I used to go to school with and stuff like that And I don't know if they're conservative or what but they know what I am because of my Facebook post But I'll just make it okay for them to kind of announce whatever they're I'm like they're like yeah You know I think the liberals are going pretty crazy.
00:33:41.000I'm like yeah, that's that's cool, and I'm not fishing anything out of them I'm not like
00:35:19.000Wait, was that you as Ryan appealing to Bill Burr?
00:35:23.000Yeah, this is an impersonation or facsimile of Bill Burr.
00:35:27.000I understand, but when you just said, I don't agree with anything that's been said, you were separating yourself from me and saying, Bill Burr, I still want to meet you, I don't think you married that black chick just to get out of jail for you.
00:35:38.000Yeah, I suppose it is me, because Bill Burr wouldn't want to meet himself.
00:38:29.000It's only the size of my distended asshole.
00:38:33.000So, this brings up another unfortunate topic.
00:38:38.000Which is the wear and tear on a person's posterior when they pursue that one particular sexual proclivity.
00:38:47.000And my understanding is that within the homosexual community, bottoms are something like 90% of the field, which I don't quite get.
00:38:57.000If I was to pursue that endeavor, I would definitely want to pursue top and do the doing, not the being done to.
00:39:04.000But yeah, they tend to be mostly bottoms, and it shreds your bottom.
00:39:12.000You know, it doesn't really stand up to a lot of wear and tear, that thing.
00:39:16.000As an alcoholic, who always has, you know, brutal problems the next day, I can only imagine if a penis was involved in that mess.
00:39:26.000So that's another issue that no one talks about.
00:39:30.000What it does, in fact, you know what we're hearing about now?
00:39:35.000Thanks to pornography, young girls are experiencing as much anal sex as gays do, and there is a massive epidemic with anal tearing and anal distention within the millennial female community.
00:39:52.000That's not gonna make it to the six o'clock news, because people are eating, but the women who are out there dating,
00:39:59.000Pornography has turned every cute little hand-holding session into XXX porn, and these women's anuses are getting shredded.
00:40:08.000I feel terrible telling you this, because it sounds like I'm Gigi Allen right now, but I'm just telling you facts.
00:40:15.000Yeah, that whole pink sock thing where the prolapse, their ass goes from in to out.
00:41:52.000I feel bad about gays when I think about their lives post 35 because they can't be part of the same chapters we're part of, which is the, um, having kids and knowing there's grandkids in the future.
00:42:04.000And that seems beautiful to me and you guys don't have that.
00:43:21.000Yeah, also it's after a certain point, you know, you get to a certain age and
00:43:28.000You have a kid, and now you're living for somebody else.
00:43:30.000Now you're responsible for somebody else.
00:43:31.000It's like, you know, unless you're super in love with yourself, you might start being like, you know what, I'm kind of sick of the old rye guy.
00:43:39.000But you got a little dude, you got a little kid that you have to be around for, and you're living for something else.
00:43:49.000If the guy has some money, or even if not, he'll often be able to find a girl 30 years younger, 20 years younger, 10 years younger, who wants him, and then he's like, I gotta get out of bed, I gotta shower and stuff.
00:44:01.000Gays are more shallow, so they tend, these older homos tend not to have someone who wants them, and that, they get depressed, and they get lonely.
00:44:12.000Because, I don't know, they just don't, they don't have the opportunity, and that's,
00:44:17.000That's profoundly sad, but here's another thing that I'm going to talk about when I was talking about the chapters in your life.
00:44:25.000A centenarian, do you know what a centenarian is?
00:46:27.000And you see these, um, people announcing to their parents that they're pregnant and you see the way the grandparents react, they go apoplectic.
00:46:39.000And I believe that is like a Darwinian thing where they go, okay, now I've officially nailed it.
00:46:46.000I've officially set my feet in the sand.
00:47:09.000And these centenarians, you know, there's even been cases, there's a great article in the New York Times about this, where they talked about guys who were experiencing Alzheimer's, they went back to Greece, whatever, lived with their grandchildren, great-grandchildren, and the Alzheimer's actually went away.
00:47:29.000They could reverse the process of dementia and Alzheimer's and whatever the other one is.
00:47:35.000Um, and I think that is a Darwinian thing, where, you know, your body releases endorphins when they see you around your great-grandchildren, because they go, you really fucking nailed it, dude.
00:47:47.000Plus, kids are jumping around, and they're, you know, saying things, and they're stimulating your brain.
00:47:52.000When you're 100 years old, you're mostly just around old people going, let's throw in the towel.
00:47:58.000But a four-year-old isn't saying, don't throw in the towel, look at this, feel my muscles, look how strong I am, feel my muscles.
00:48:03.000And also the feeling usefulness as far as like imparting wisdom onto them, like you have all these things that you've learned and all this stuff that you've experienced and how do you pass that down?
00:48:14.000People over probably ten don't want to hear it.
00:48:18.000Yeah, there's definitely an element of that too, where you're not just talking to the kids, you're talking to the 40-year-old dad and saying, look, your daughter is going to be a problem for a long time because she is of that age, but you have to stand by her.
00:48:34.000And just make sure that when she needs you, you are there.
00:48:38.000But as far as intervening with this relationship with this boy, I don't think you can change that.
00:48:44.000You're just going to make it worse, Vincent.
00:49:31.000I had this theory that right after I kind of left my great-grandparents, my great-grandmother's still alive, but after I moved to my grandparents out of the Bronx, my great-grandfather got dementia.
00:49:46.000And I was like, maybe that's because he's pretty much raised me.
00:50:55.000Oh I'm sorry, you want to avoid being a perfect dad, I understand.
00:50:58.000There's one thing a little boy doesn't want to do, it's drive a drone around the neighborhood with his dad.
00:51:03.000I was thinking about writing a movie for him, and I was crazy enough to actually tell him this concept, where when he was out in California, when his dad brought him out, he accidentally knocked up a chick, and he's got a kid out there, and just fully grown, comes up to him and is like, hey dad, it's me!
00:51:18.000Wow, that's such a shitty ending to such a great podcast.
00:51:22.000We nailed it, we were being scientific, and we're using giant words like centenarian, and then you fucking fanboy, you just ruined it.