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00:02:00.000So you know you're going too far when serial stranglers have had enough.
00:02:07.000As you know, this is a free episode for the first half hour.
00:02:11.000We shoot the shit and then we go behind the paywall at censored.tv where it's $10 a month for unlimited content, fun stuff, different stuff every day.
00:05:17.000He got $100 tip on Veterans Day by claiming he was a Marine.
00:05:22.000Maddie looks a little blurry to me, Ryan.
00:05:27.000In fact, the pictures behind him look sharper.
00:05:31.000He said that he beat up five black guys in jail because he was losing it after his time in Iraq or Afghanistan, one of those Middle Eastern countries.
00:05:43.000Arnold Schwarzenegger saw him somehow via the security cams and invited him to his dojo where he learned to be a ninja master.
00:05:53.000Two men came to the bar once with shotguns.
00:05:57.000Joe beat them up using their own shotguns and then said, holding both, I guess, the finger through both triggers and said, you either can stay here and be killed or you can leave.
00:10:21.000If you realize he went to the hospital a few days in advance because he says his neck was killing him when Jared, the black guy, beat him up.
00:13:45.000Anyway, Joe Tonelli, for those of you listening to just the audio, you don't know what we're doing here, but we're making fun of an Italian pathological liar.
00:14:21.000We're going to go through some letters and take some calls and do some live chats.
00:14:26.000The live chats are fun because 100% of the money goes to Max and John, who got four years in prison for beating up Antifa, which apparently is a crime.
00:16:23.000And people go, wait a minute, I have kids.
00:16:25.000When I send my kid to school, you're going to tell him that he stole this land from the Indians, and everything that we've built was built on the backs of slavery?
00:17:17.000And one little anecdote I have is my buddy Chris, Proud Boy, he got a call from his mother who wasn't speaking to him.
00:17:24.000They haven't spoken in a year because he's been brainwashed by Proud Boy's propaganda and he's a Nazi and he's ruining the country and blah, blah, blah, Trump, whatever, whatever.
00:17:51.000And he explains, you know, the club, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:17:54.000And my gut says that that mom calling Chris is happening all over the country.
00:18:00.000I think these dumb bitch, you know, purple-haired sister-in-laws that were angry with their brother-in-law are now going, so wait, what is it?
00:18:09.000Because, and these kind of trends can be set off by the tiniest thing.
00:18:14.000It's possible the bouncy castles were the catalysts.
00:21:53.000It's funny because, you know, I have family members up there, and they're getting up in age.
00:21:58.000And I'm like, man, I'm not going to be able to go to their funerals.
00:22:03.000It's my mom's sister and her husband and children.
00:22:06.000And a couple of my family members who work for certain alphabet soups were like, do you think that we couldn't get you into the country for the funeral?
00:24:33.000We swore every day we were going to break it because it was just tons of cocaine and everything there and crystal methane, all the goods, and stupid pills, opioids.
00:24:42.000But yeah, they said, man, you just always bring these fucking hoes.
00:24:47.000And I'm like, yeah, but you all end up banging them.
00:30:47.000And it's kind of anti-woke because the woke mulatto ruins everyone's life, including...
00:30:55.000Yeah, we were going to say, we did notice that it was kind of neutral and that it ended up making the more liberal woke people look shittier.
00:31:05.000So we did like that because at first we thought they were going to go the other way.
00:31:08.000And we were like, oh, this is why, why would Gavin recommend this?
00:35:06.000How far can she exercise on like Lifetime or something about people with Down syndrome getting together and hooking up and wanting to date and marry?
00:35:17.000And like some people, some of them just didn't have the comprehension of what the relationship was.
00:35:29.000You know that Love on the Spectrum show?
00:35:32.000I can't help but think God's design is in there because they'll meet someone, they'll get along great, and then they'll go, it's in Australia.
00:35:41.000And she's like, I don't think we're going to meet again.
00:36:42.000Like, there's more intellectual stimulation and attraction now at this stage in my life that looks aren't, you know, even though I'm a male model myself.
00:36:54.000You know, I got girls beating my door down.
00:36:56.000But I've had my fair share of women in my life.
00:44:07.000And the reason they called him mom, because he fucking nitpicked and screwed like every, like, you wanted to go down the street to buy lunch.
00:44:15.000It was like, what kind of bread are we?
00:44:18.000They called him mom because he was like a fucking, a busy bee mom, fucking hovering over everybody.
00:44:22.000So he's probably autistic or something.
00:48:31.000But it had nothing to do with flat earth.
00:48:32.000Flat earthers have always been rare from the cave days till now.
00:48:38.000In fact, there's probably way more today than there has ever been in history because your eyeballs look up and you see a thing called a moon.
00:51:52.000I want the word monster to be much, much bigger, but I'm going to show you some rough drafts of the shirts we're working on Because I hope it will influence a decision.
00:52:03.000Remember, no one wants to walk around with a poo shirt.
00:54:31.000And then he interviews some redneck, and the redneck's like, I'll tell you what, man, we were a lot better off before everyone started talking about nigger this, nigger that.
00:54:41.000We were better when we didn't talk about racism all the time.
00:54:44.000And he sounds dumb to asshole aristocrats, but actually what he's saying is totally reasonable.
00:54:52.000And Louis Thoreau sounds smart because he's a British accent.
00:55:17.000Why don't you guys just have your clan rally over there?
00:55:19.000And we'll stand here going, ooh, like his prison shit, where he's talking to prisoners, and they're like, I'll kill a motherfucker if he tries to fuck me in the ass.
00:55:27.000And you're watching going, yeah, you don't want someone fucking in the ass.
00:55:30.000And Louie's like, oh, so quite aggressive then.
00:58:31.000There was a Trump rally where they had a Nazi flag, and it was actually a Trump supporter saying, like, their DNC, Nazi kind of stuff, but it wasn't clear.
00:58:45.000Just stay away from the fucking swastika.
00:58:46.000I got to be honest, I am so profoundly bored of any Hitler analogy now.
00:59:54.000I've told this story 100 times, but I'll just repeat it for fun.
00:59:59.000Vice was trying to sign them, and we all loved her, but they didn't like Vice.
01:00:05.000But they liked the idea of being on a record label that would get them out there.
01:00:10.000So their deal with us was, you can put on a record as long as there's no Vice logo on it anywhere, and you never mention that we're on Vice Records.
01:00:23.000So you get to fuck me at 4 a.m. when no one else wants to fuck you, but then you sneak out wearing a COVID mask and no one knows that we're dating?
01:04:31.000My only hope fighting Sam Hyde would be if I was an incredibly talented like Canelo dude who could deke out punches and get body shots in and crack him on his chin.
01:04:46.000So obviously if I'm fighting someone stronger than me, it's going to be a shit show.
01:04:51.000I think if luck, Lady Luck had my side, I might crack his ribs or get him on the chin in a very lucky way.
01:04:59.000But unless he has the worst cardio in the world and he eats Rice Krispie Squares for dinner and I can just run around the first round.
01:05:08.000I heard that, I was telling Maddie this, the owner of my gym, he said, as kids, we used to fight prisoners because you were allowed to go and have these competitive sparring matches at prisons.
01:05:18.000And the coach's advice was: run around the ring for the first round.
01:05:22.000These guys have no gas, and then fight them in the second round, and you'll win.
01:06:45.000And, I mean, see, the thing about bodybuilding is he wasn't able to lift what Wek can because it's a certain type of thing when you lift weights.
01:09:37.000Well, and I'm sure Maddie can contribute to this, but I've lost a lot of friends recently for saying that I like Eastern State Penitentiary.
01:09:48.000I like the idea of five years as a prison sentence, even for murder.
01:09:52.000But you've got to understand that when I say five years, I'm talking about Eastern State Penitentiary.
01:09:58.000Now, there you had a room that was as big as, well, you can't see the studio, but it's as big as me to this TV.
01:10:07.000So it's like, it was about a 10-foot by 10-foot room.
01:10:11.000Then you had a little alcove, a little door.
01:10:14.000And then you had a backyard that was 10 feet by 10 feet that you could go to anytime you wanted.
01:10:53.000It was the most extreme isolation possible for five years.
01:10:57.000Eastern didn't actually keep the model either.
01:10:59.000Eastern operated under the Pennsylvania model up until the early 1900s and then switched over to the New York model that was pioneered at Auburn.
01:11:07.000So Eastern eventually gave up on what they'd been trying to do and went to a more practical model.
01:11:13.000So there was, in the early model, there was no socializing whatsoever?
01:11:17.000Well, in general, it's Eastern as long as they held it.
01:11:19.000That's called the Pennsylvania model, which originated from around the 1820s with Eastern.
01:11:24.000And it was supposed to be a very radical form of isolation pioneered by Quakers.
01:11:28.000And the idea was that the inmates wouldn't talk to each other, much less see each other at all.
01:11:32.000They'd hardly communicate with guards, just very simple comments and instructions.
01:11:37.000And they were essentially isolated, no letters home, no communication with the outside, no visits for five years or however long the term is.
01:11:44.000And that was the model up until the end of the 1800s, early 1900s, when the authorities in Pennsylvania said, hey, this doesn't fucking work.
01:11:52.000And they converted it into a regular concrete setting.
01:12:08.000They didn't monitor the actual outcome because they didn't have a parole system back then, didn't have any kind of metrics in place to do that.
01:12:13.000But the state looked at the system as it went on over the course of about, what was that, 60, 70 years?
01:12:19.000And by 1900, said, hey, this is extremely expensive.
01:12:22.000We're seeing ways of operating in other states.
01:12:24.000We don't seem to have a major impact on recidivism rates that we're starting to track now.
01:12:28.000And it really wasn't, because they did have return rates.
01:12:31.000Well, that's the problem with my whole theory is they didn't track the recidivism because they wanted these men to be independent and have no records.
01:12:37.000So they burnt their files after they left.
01:12:44.00010 years in a prison, cafeteria, talking to people, whatever, watching TV, or five years in a 10-foot by 10-foot room and a 10-foot by 10-foot little area.
01:12:57.000You're learning a trade, you're fucking totally alone for five years.
01:14:16.000Like, there was a guy who used to say he used to rip his button off of his shirt and turn the lights off and throw the button up in the air.
01:14:24.000And he made a game to try to keep himself safe.
01:14:26.000He would have to get down and find the button.
01:14:30.000Just to, you know, the shoes that I've been in, the solitary I've been in, like the shoe, the bucket, the hole, whatever you want to call it, I've always been, I've been in two-man shoes and three-man shoes.
01:14:47.000Yeah, I mean, Carler, I'm not an expert.
01:14:49.000I just, I like the idea of this five years of contemplation, but I didn't know that they had zero contact with anyone in the early days of Eastern State Penitentiary.
01:15:02.000Yeah, I mean, the other thing also is New York actually has some very low recidivism rates, which is surprising.
01:15:15.000Well, the thing about recidivism is if you don't come out rehabilitated or you've learned your lesson, basically what they've done is they've just made you lose the fear of prison.
01:15:31.000You feel that you can go out wherever you want because being sent to prison is no longer a deterrent.
01:15:36.000After I got the backlash for saying the five years thing, I started looking it up and the amount of deterrent increase when you start adding big numbers to a sentence is like 2%.
01:15:51.00025 years is generally 2% scarier than seven years.
01:15:57.000Yeah, but at that point, you're dealing with people that deterrence probably isn't really a factor at all.
01:16:00.000You're dealing with people who are very often so dangerous they're being kept in not to rehabilitate them, but just make everyone else safer.
01:20:06.000I was like, I'm going to do a sit-down with him.
01:20:10.000One time I was with him in the East Village, and this dude comes up, and he's got Krishna beads, and he's like, hey, what's going on, John?
01:20:20.000He's like, hey, Druggy, Dougie Drug, I think was the guy's name?
01:20:58.000And he goes, that was a dude who was in the Cro-Mags who became a junkie and was begging me for money because he thinks I'm getting these massive Cro-Mags checks every week that he's being denied.
01:21:10.000And he obviously wants the money, just like Joe, for more fucking opioids.
01:21:14.000Doug, Drug Doug, I think his name was.
01:21:39.000So you're 37, you're married to a 47-year-old?
01:21:42.000And like, yeah, but she's not your average 47-year-old.
01:21:45.000And then they show you a picture, and you're like, well, that's my son, but they show you a picture, and you're like, that's a 47-year-old.
01:24:38.000Well, there's, if you could do something, I have a suggestion to be a better Catholic.
01:24:46.000I don't think anyone's more censored in the world than the Trad Catholics from Faith Goldie and the Sanchez I know you've had on your show.
01:24:59.000I heard a story amongst okay, thanks for calling.
01:27:47.000There's no way I'm telling some stranger myself.
01:27:49.000I think it's around the same time as the bar mitzvah, like 13 or 14, you have your confirmation, which is you, as a man, reconfirming that Roman Catholicism is your religion.
01:29:27.000Would you rather fuck the Down syndrome Victoria Secret model, which is basically just Amy Poehler, or fuck the 22-year-old in the eight-year-old body?
01:30:29.000So if I had no choice, it would have to be the Down syndrome girl because she's a 22-year-old that's physically appealing as a woman, even though her mental quality is not.
01:30:42.000I would fuck the one in the eight-year-old's body because at least I know in my grave that I fucked a 23-year-old.
01:31:41.000And then when I'm on my deathbed, I'm like, I've fucked nothing but chicks.
01:31:44.000I fucked one of the ugliest women on earth who looked like me, but it was still a chick.
01:31:51.000Now, you're on your deathbed and you're like, have you ever, have you ever, you have to go, I fucked one retard, but mostly normal girls, which isn't as bad as fucking a kid, obviously.
01:32:01.000But at least I would be on my deathbed and I went, I fucked some very short chicks.
01:32:06.000I actually fucked a chick with an eight-year-old body, but she was 22.
01:34:51.000And I think it's a lot of black thugs that get duped by these trannies at some club.
01:34:56.000Everyone's wasted doing blow, and they fucking, they lose their temper and they beat them to death.
01:35:01.000But I can't imagine being a person that's transsexual or dressed up as a woman and deceives a man and gives him like a blow and then the guy finds out.
01:35:16.000And what do you expect is going to happen?
01:35:19.000I think a lot of them are self-hating.
01:35:20.000Like I was trying to encourage Ryan to cut himself.
01:35:23.000I think a lot of these people are self-hating and they kind of want to be beaten to death.
01:35:54.000That's like the guy who goes, hey, on the show the other day, you talked about a thing you can put on your boot to make your soles last longer.
01:36:17.000With the links, I would much prefer if you emailed Ryan at censored.tv and then these comments here, you could just say subject blah, blah, blah.
01:36:27.000Sent in the mailbag subject because these links don't work.
01:42:41.000In 2011, dear Maddie, an interview with Teen Vogue, you're quoted as saying, I'm a huge fan of sluts, and I know when I'm dating one, I will spend less money on her and push harder and sooner for unlubed analyze.
01:42:53.000Now, a decade later, do you still stand by this belief system, Randy?
01:43:05.000That's someone who's drunk, and they sent that email thinking it was the funniest thing in the world, and then they read it the next day in their scent box, and they went, what?
01:46:15.000I was born full-term, but my mother had gotten sick at some point, and I was 4 pounds, 3 ounces, and I had to spend 13 days in an incubator.
01:46:23.000I think that's why I got all these fucking conditions and shit.
01:46:27.000Do any of your male, your brothers have heart problems?
01:46:34.000Both of my brothers have been seen a cardiologist, and we have like this thing called familia hypercholesterolemia.
01:46:43.000We have very high triglycerides, which acts fat in your blood.
01:46:46.000Like our livers just continue to create cholesterol.
01:46:50.000So there is like that would predetermine you to having like CAD, which is cardiovascular disease, like when you get blockages in your arteries and stuff, and they got to do the bypasses.
01:47:03.000But so far, I've told everyone in my family, all my son, my...
01:50:41.000Like, there definitely is something where if a 21-year-old teacher fucks a 16-year-old boy, it's like, well, you should probably not do that.
01:50:52.000If a 21-year-old male teacher fucks a 16-year-old girl, I'm slitting your throat.
01:57:39.000Like, they're talking about a murder right there.
01:57:42.000Now, if I said that murder never happens in that environment or in that culture, I'd be lying.
01:57:50.000So there's no statutory limit on murder.
01:57:54.000So you could drift into the snitch box if you say the wrong thing.
01:57:57.000You mentioned names, dates, times, places, because it may or may not be seen by somebody that could say, hey, he mentioned something on this date and this state in the area.
01:58:08.000He didn't mention names, but we know the incident.
01:59:04.000Like, if these things are public knowledge that's been in the paper and, like, the guy who cut the girl's head off and all this stuff, like a buddy of mine did a triple murder up in Massachusetts, killed three people, cut them up.
01:59:15.000They found him through the cell phone and the pocket after they buried him.
01:59:46.000When you put that patch on or that club logo or you join a gang, you have to understand that there are inherent risks that either you're going to end up in prison for life or you're going to get fucking killed.
02:00:08.000Like girls used to be like, take me for rides, so I want to ride.
02:00:11.000And I'm like, no, because if I'm on the highway with you and there's somebody that doesn't like me or the club that I'm associated with, they try to run me off the road or they want to shoot me off my bike.
02:00:21.000Like those are real fucking things that I used to have to fucking deal with.
02:00:24.000Like, yeah, you have girlfriends, you have wives, you have mortgages, your bills, everything to fucking deal with that everyone in normal day life has.
02:00:33.000Then you have the Banditos, the pagans, the Mongols, the Vagos, law enforcement, federal law enforcement, local, county, Interpool, that all want to fucking lock you up and trap you and put you in jail forever.
02:00:47.000Like a lot of people don't deal with those outside stresses.
02:00:52.000You're opening a whole Pandora's box five minutes after the end of the show.
02:00:59.000Do you think, and this is probably dumb to Pandora's box it even more, but do you think it's possible a lot of these gang members have kind of a death wish and are like, you know what?
02:01:09.000I don't care if I fucking die or if I go to jail for life.
02:01:21.000They weren't getting all the notoriety and the fame and the mystique and the outlaw, like the romanticizing of what an outlaw is and everything like that.