Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes - S02E116 - BARNES VS. TRINIDAD [2020-01-27 - S02E116

00:00:02.000 For real, for real this time.

00:00:07.000 For real, for real, for real this time.

00:00:13.000 Live from New York, it's Get Off My Lawn with Gavin McGuinness.

00:00:20.000 For real, for real this time'Cause you make my earthquake Oh, you make my-Mmm.

00:00:30.000 *Sigh*

00:00:33.000 That was Tyler the Creator and his hit song Earthquake.

00:00:41.000 Like Earthquake, but with an F. I guess he's mocking Ebotics.

00:00:48.000 Is that what that's about?

00:00:50.000 We're embracing it.

00:00:51.000 We're embracing it.

00:00:53.000 He's big on not being black.

00:00:54.000 He's a gay dude, skater kid.

00:00:56.000 Used to work at Supreme, a hustler, which is a very Harlem thing.

00:01:01.000 I don't know where he's from.

00:01:04.000 But he started out as a rapper, but now he seems to combine rap with love songs and stuff.

00:01:10.000 Very weird dude.

00:01:12.000 Do you want to hear some of that?

00:01:17.000 Sometimes it's hard to differentiate between a very weird dude and an artist.

00:01:22.000 a very gifted artist I should say and I wasn't sure what he might And so is my wife.

00:01:29.000 And my daughter hates that.

00:01:31.000 Her mom is into the same thing.

00:01:34.000 But he performed at the Grammys last night.

00:01:39.000 And holy shit, if I haven't seen someone use the medium better than Tyler the Creator at his show.

00:01:49.000 You have, and don't start it yet, but you have X amount of parameters when you do a live show, right?

00:01:58.000 And I've noticed I'm starting to see fire more on stage.

00:02:02.000 I guess someone decided a way to do it that wasn't that you could afford the insurance for it.

00:02:06.000 I've seen it at a few concerts now with people blasting out fire.

00:02:10.000 So Pyrotechnics is back after the, what was that?

00:02:13.000 The White Lion?

00:02:15.000 There was that fire at a club and a bunch of people died, piled out trying to get out of there.

00:02:15.000 Remember that?

00:02:22.000 It was started by a jealous boyfriend who wanted revenge on his girl and ended up killing like a hundred people.

00:02:28.000 Great White Hope?

00:02:30.000 What were they called again?

00:02:32.000 Metal Man.

00:02:34.000 How come you've never heard of a white snake?

00:02:36.000 Oh, White Lion Ribbon versus Pantheon.

00:02:36.000 No.

00:02:41.000 Pyro White Lion?

00:02:41.000 What?

00:02:46.000 What was it called now?

00:02:48.000 White Lion?

00:02:49.000 Just put up like rock concert pyrotechnics death catastrophe.

00:02:53.000 Horrible thing.

00:02:54.000 Anyway, they seem to have moved on from that and then we're back with fire.

00:02:57.000 So this is what I imagine.

00:03:00.000 Tyler the Creator goes, all right, what can we do?

00:03:02.000 Oh, anything you want, sir.

00:03:03.000 No, no, what are the limits?

00:03:07.000 What are you doing now?

00:03:10.000 Great White, they were called.

00:03:13.000 Great White, yeah.

00:03:17.000 And they said, well, we can have pyrotechnics.

00:03:20.000 How much?

00:03:21.000 I don't know, this much?

00:03:23.000 And how big can my set be?

00:03:25.000 Well, it could be about this big.

00:03:26.000 Well, how do I make it even bigger?

00:03:28.000 Well, I guess we could have a screen at the back that repeats the pattern of the foreground, and it would look like it went on forever.

00:03:34.000 Okay, let's do that.

00:03:35.000 And how can we end it?

00:03:37.000 Can I fall off a cliff?

00:03:38.000 So he keeps pushing it, keeps pushing it.

00:03:40.000 And he's just maximized what you can do on a TV performance.

00:03:44.000 Now, award shows are fucking boring as shit.

00:03:48.000 And all the bands are dull.

00:03:50.000 But wow, did this guy pull it off?

00:03:54.000 Check out how awesome this is.

00:03:56.000 Oh, by the way, first of all, before you see this, boys to men are there, who are like my age now, and they're singing by a flaming trash can, like doo-wop.

00:04:06.000 And then he comes over, sings with them for a bit.

00:04:08.000 Then he walks over here and grabs this mic.

00:04:10.000 Turn it up.

00:04:16.000 Turn it up.

00:04:24.000 Like this is punk.

00:04:27.000 Sometimes you gotta close a door to open a window.

00:04:34.000 It's better than the sex business.

00:04:36.000 Look at that fucking set!

00:04:47.000 And then you go, okay, well that was pretty crazy.

00:04:52.000 Good job.

00:04:53.000 So from now on it's just gonna be flashing lights and him singing into the microphone.

00:04:59.000 I'm impressed.

00:05:00.000 He did a great job.

00:05:01.000 That's a really creaky set.

00:05:02.000 Not even close.

00:05:04.000 That's not even close to how crazy it gets.

00:05:07.000 I wonder if we can find all of them.

00:05:10.000 Yeah.

00:05:11.000 Then, two, four, six, eight, sixteen.

00:05:14.000 Other Tyler the Creators stormed the stage.

00:05:18.000 What?

00:05:21.000 Oh, is that it?

00:05:22.000 Yeah, for that link.

00:05:23.000 Okay, go to the next one.

00:05:25.000 It's really hard to find.

00:05:26.000 They're so territorial.

00:05:29.000 And then they all start thrashing.

00:05:34.000 Yeah.

00:05:36.000 Oh, it's a GIF.

00:05:38.000 That's fine.

00:05:38.000 I'll take a GIF.

00:05:39.000 It's going to be hard to get the stuff.

00:05:41.000 So he starts getting up on a rising platform, and they all start thrashing.

00:05:45.000 And then the buildings burst into flames, like real flames.

00:05:48.000 And the camera's shaking as it films this, too.

00:05:50.000 So you feel like your room is shaking.

00:05:53.000 And that's how he look at how he ends it.

00:05:57.000 That's pretty cool.

00:05:59.000 He goes to hell.

00:06:01.000 That's all fire.

00:06:02.000 That's real fire.

00:06:04.000 Yeah, and I can see where there's the screen in the back is the three houses.

00:06:09.000 And then the two are the only ones on fire.

00:06:10.000 So it's actually really controlled and like reasonable.

00:06:12.000 No, no, no.

00:06:13.000 Everything is on fire in the foreground.

00:06:15.000 Those are just the last two buildings on that little street he made.

00:06:18.000 But the street has about four on either side.

00:06:21.000 I mean, the set was like 200 feet by 200 feet.

00:06:24.000 It was fucking huge.

00:06:26.000 So then you go, well, that's that.

00:06:29.000 We're done.

00:06:30.000 Like, you can't, what are you going to do now when it's your live performance at an awards show?

00:06:36.000 You'd have to kill snakes.

00:06:38.000 You'd have to have a bunch of killer snakes and chop them up with swords.

00:06:43.000 Contract coronavirus via bat.

00:06:46.000 You'd have to eat bat soup and then cough into the audience's face.

00:06:50.000 And even that's not very entertaining.

00:06:54.000 It's like a threat to humanity, really.

00:06:58.000 I told you, Chingx, not to drink Corona.

00:07:02.000 Your cheeks get all red.

00:07:04.000 I regret that joke.

00:07:05.000 That uses a racial epithet, and it's terrible.

00:07:08.000 So I'm hereby erasing it.

00:07:11.000 But it's a joke I wanted to make all day.

00:07:16.000 What else is in the news?

00:07:17.000 So that's all we're going to say about that.

00:07:18.000 We got Larry Burns, former Walter Waite champion, coming in here.

00:07:24.000 Walter Weight is, what, 120 pounds?

00:07:27.000 You got to be either short or skinny.

00:07:29.000 He's going to come in here and talk about one of the most consequential fights in the history of boxing, but definitely the most consequential fight of his career when he fought Trinidad, Felix Trinidad, about 23 years ago.

00:07:41.000 He's going to take us through it frame by frame, if he shows up, that is.

00:07:46.000 But we also have to acknowledge Kobe.

00:07:51.000 That was a big thing, too, with the Grammys.

00:07:53.000 They said, because it just happened yesterday, and they kept saying, peace out, rest in peace, and holding up a jersey that said Kobe.

00:08:04.000 Like, what?

00:08:05.000 And then at the end, they had a picture.

00:08:07.000 Oh, yeah.

00:08:07.000 There was a massive, like crazy African spiritual dedication to Nipsey Hustle.

00:08:17.000 Oh, wasn't he just some random criminal rapper?

00:08:21.000 Like John Legend was there.

00:08:24.000 There's a whole gospel choir.

00:08:25.000 They're all dressed like they're Egyptians.

00:08:27.000 Because for some reason, black Americans are convinced that Egyptians were black and we were kings.

00:08:33.000 Yeah, we was kings.

00:08:34.000 Bad news, people.

00:08:37.000 Egyptians were not black.

00:08:39.000 They look like they look like now.

00:08:41.000 They looked like Anthony Kumea.

00:08:44.000 Yeah, but there's black people on their, like King Tut's grave.

00:08:47.000 I had a big argument with the rapper, R.A. the Rugged Man, about this.

00:08:51.000 He's like, LOL, fuck you.

00:08:54.000 Look at King Tut's tomb.

00:08:55.000 And there's black people on it.

00:08:56.000 Yeah, that's what they did at the end.

00:08:58.000 Nipsey Hustle and Kobe Bryant.

00:09:00.000 I wonder if Kobe would be kind of bummed.

00:09:02.000 I feel like an idiot because I don't know any of Nipsey Hustle's music.

00:09:05.000 I just assumed trash.

00:09:06.000 Me neither.

00:09:07.000 But I assume Juice World was trash, but he was pretty good.

00:09:09.000 Okay.

00:09:10.000 So maybe I feel bad.

00:09:11.000 I don't know yet.

00:09:12.000 Put on some Nipsey Hustle.

00:09:14.000 All right.

00:09:16.000 Now you made me forget what I was talking about.

00:09:18.000 Egyptians at the house.

00:09:19.000 Oh, yeah.

00:09:20.000 And he goes, there's black people on the coffin.

00:09:23.000 And I go, yeah, dude, that's their slaves.

00:09:26.000 It was considered like a gesture of respect to put your slaves on your tomb so you'd bring your slaves with you to the afterlife.

00:09:34.000 They weren't painting him.

00:09:35.000 He wasn't painting himself.

00:09:37.000 And they've done DNA tests.

00:09:38.000 They've ran samples from these mummies and they come out looking like every Egyptian guy you've ever met.

00:09:47.000 Who's got a full-blown movie?

00:09:49.000 They did not look like that.

00:09:52.000 Hi, I'm smart.

00:10:01.000 This is dope.

00:10:05.000 See, now I feel bad.

00:10:06.000 I don't feel bad at all.

00:10:07.000 Well, I thought it was just the same monotonous cookie cutter trap.

00:10:13.000 Now it's just different.

00:10:15.000 Listen, it's boring R ⁇ B. No, but it's some fucking meathead.

00:10:23.000 Well, is he a positive guy?

00:10:24.000 Because that is...

00:10:29.000 There's heavy misogyny.

00:10:33.000 The only reason that it's bad is because it's so beautiful.

00:10:36.000 The only way they can get away with it.

00:10:37.000 Talent is remarkable.

00:10:39.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:10:43.000 Incredible.

00:10:47.000 Taken from us too soon.

00:10:50.000 Anyway, so Cobe died, killed in a helicopter accident with his daughter.

00:10:54.000 His daughter was in there.

00:10:55.000 I think he forced the pilot to ride in fog.

00:10:59.000 And when you're in a helicopter and it's foggy, I mean, planes can have their instruments they can go by, but a helicopter can't see shit.

00:11:06.000 And if the instruments aren't working, you're done.

00:11:08.000 And I think they just went right into a mountain.

00:11:10.000 I heard some imbecile sheriff from that area say, what was his exact quote?

00:11:16.000 He said, when the emergency team arrived, we found that the nine survivors had been perished.

00:11:26.000 What?

00:11:27.000 And then they kept using perished as a verb the whole press conference.

00:11:30.000 The nine survivors had been perished?

00:11:34.000 Here's a question.

00:11:36.000 If an American flight crashes right over the border in Canada, where do you bury the survivors?

00:11:42.000 In Canada or in America?

00:11:44.000 Good question.

00:11:44.000 What's the answer?

00:11:45.000 America.

00:11:46.000 You don't bury survivors, you fucking idiot.

00:11:50.000 If a rooster lays an egg at the top of the roof, which side does it fall off of?

00:11:55.000 Do you think I'm even close to as dumb as you are?

00:11:57.000 No.

00:11:59.000 So Ari Shafir had an interesting take on the death of this legend.

00:12:05.000 And it didn't involve holding up his jersey.

00:12:08.000 It didn't involve saying, R.I.P., you're a legend.

00:12:13.000 In fact, it said that it was 23 years too late.

00:12:18.000 That is 1-5 got his today.

00:12:27.000 Go back.

00:12:28.000 As I know, there's always a lot of like hate and pain in the world, and there's always a bunch of terrible stories.

00:12:33.000 And every once in a while, there's a good story.

00:12:35.000 A good story comes out.

00:12:37.000 Guy who got away with rape got his today.

00:12:43.000 Kobe Brad is a god.

00:12:46.000 I'm here in Charlotte, the home of the team that originally drafted him.

00:12:51.000 Maybe he wouldn't have break that chicken temper if he had stayed in Charlotte with the hornets.

00:12:55.000 But anyway, the point is, dude, it's like...

00:12:59.000 There's that one.

00:13:00.000 He also had another one.

00:13:01.000 I think it was a written tweet that's probably near there.

00:13:04.000 Oh, that was Tariq Nasheed, right?

00:13:06.000 So Tariq Nasheed's take is a lot of anti-black racists seem to be celebrating Kobe Bryan's death today.

00:13:14.000 I've never heard him use the term anti-black racists.

00:13:17.000 Is he acknowledging that there are black racists who hate white people?

00:13:21.000 Oh, maybe.

00:13:22.000 Because that's the only time you'd need that term if you were trying to separate like racists from the black Hebrew Israelites.

00:13:30.000 Kobe Bryant died 23 years too late today.

00:13:32.000 He got away with rape because all the Hollywood liberals who attack comedy enjoy rooting for the Lakers more than they dislike rape.

00:13:39.000 Big ups to the hero who forgot to gas up his chopper.

00:13:43.000 I hate the Lakers.

00:13:44.000 What a great day.

00:13:45.000 Fuck the Lakers.

00:13:49.000 Now, people say this is what Ari does.

00:13:51.000 He just says the most inappropriate thing imaginable.

00:13:55.000 And he doesn't really mean it.

00:13:56.000 But I don't know.

00:13:57.000 He was hacked.

00:13:58.000 That sounds pretty, yeah, that sounds pretty mean it to me.

00:14:02.000 Like, he's not giggling.

00:14:04.000 And that thing about they like the Lakers more than they dislike rape, that's not just like a random haha.

00:14:10.000 Like, that's got some substance to it.

00:14:12.000 Rest in peace, Kobe says, I'm pro-Hitler now.

00:14:17.000 Scurball Center for Professor.

00:14:18.000 Oh, they put his dates there.

00:14:20.000 Oh, geez.

00:14:20.000 Oh, Josh Denny.

00:14:21.000 No, keep showing those.

00:14:22.000 Josh Denny said they doxed his parents' home.

00:14:25.000 Whoa.

00:14:26.000 And there's all these blue check, blue, there's all these blue check Twitter people.

00:14:31.000 What the fuck's the matter with my brain?

00:14:34.000 Terrified Twitter people.

00:14:37.000 Saying that they should go kick his ass.

00:14:45.000 Imagine being hacked this accurately.

00:14:47.000 You see Robert Kelly's?

00:14:49.000 Yeah, Robert Kelly said, rest in peace.

00:14:51.000 Really sorry to hear about Ari Shafir's career.

00:14:54.000 He was a legend.

00:14:56.000 A little misdirect.

00:15:01.000 What's one six?

00:15:05.000 Oh, that's someone saying, I hope someone puts hands in feet.

00:15:07.000 Yeah, that's what I was talking about, which the threads.

00:15:09.000 But I don't think this is in the notes.

00:15:10.000 Did you hear about this woman who said nigger?

00:15:12.000 Oh, yeah.

00:15:13.000 That's, I mean, everyone's heard that, right?

00:15:15.000 It's ancient news, but we have to cover it.

00:15:18.000 She claims that she was confusing the Knicks and the Lakers, and she said the Nakers.

00:15:23.000 But we're going to have to listen a little more.

00:15:25.000 I make that mistake, too.

00:15:27.000 I make that mistake when I'm driving and I got cut off.

00:15:30.000 Knicks, Lakers, you goddamn Nakers!

00:15:36.000 Perfectly cast on the Los Angeles Nakers, Los Angeles Likers.

00:15:42.000 We're going to have to listen to that 150 times if we're going to do that again.

00:15:45.000 It's so...

00:15:47.000 Whoa.

00:15:47.000 The kind of star that was perfectly cast on the Los Angeles Nakers.

00:15:56.000 Los Angeles Lakers convenient.

00:15:57.000 I give it to her.

00:15:59.000 What do you mean?

00:16:00.000 Nakers.

00:16:01.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:16:02.000 But the Lakers have no part of this game.

00:16:04.000 I mean, no part of the story.

00:16:05.000 He was never on the Knicks, rather.

00:16:07.000 The Knicks have nothing to do with that human being.

00:16:10.000 I'll give it to her.

00:16:12.000 I'll tell you what.

00:16:13.000 If there is one imbecile out there that thinks that she did it on purpose, you deserve to go to a mental institution.

00:16:19.000 Yeah, that's crazy.

00:16:20.000 That she's like, this is my time.

00:16:22.000 Can't wait to drop this bomb.

00:16:24.000 They do that all the time, by the way.

00:16:26.000 They accuse, like, that guy who said, he was talking about Jeremy Lynn and said a chink in the armor.

00:16:31.000 Right.

00:16:32.000 And the idea that someone is sitting there their whole career waiting to drop an N-bomb or a chink bomb.

00:16:38.000 Yeah.

00:16:39.000 Look at this.

00:16:40.000 Like, so why did Colin Kaepernick take a knee because of pieces of shit like this?

00:16:44.000 Pieces of trash like this.

00:16:45.000 Like, what?

00:16:46.000 Come on.

00:16:47.000 How is it racist?

00:16:49.000 It's not racist if you insult a black person for raping someone.

00:16:53.000 Oh, but the Ar Shafir thing, yeah.

00:16:54.000 I mean, saying knickers is.

00:16:56.000 So wait, go back.

00:16:56.000 Oh, I see.

00:16:57.000 So was someone taking it seriously?

00:16:59.000 Oh, yeah.

00:16:59.000 Yeah.

00:17:00.000 What did they say?

00:17:01.000 Oh, Colin Kaepernick took a knee because of trash like this.

00:17:05.000 Wow.

00:17:06.000 Yeah.

00:17:06.000 Exactly.

00:17:07.000 Now she can play like, she didn't say it, play mind games with people's heads, listen to a 10 times word nigger.

00:17:13.000 Yeah, it is the word, but there's no way.

00:17:16.000 I actually felt bad for her.

00:17:17.000 You could feel like my face, like her face getting hot right after she said that.

00:17:20.000 Oh, definitely.

00:17:21.000 She was getting like, we used to call it a mink prickly in high school because it feels like you're wearing a mink coat.

00:17:26.000 But it's prickly.

00:17:26.000 Oh, yeah.

00:17:27.000 So she got all those prickles on the backs of her shoulders.

00:17:30.000 She probably almost fainted.

00:17:32.000 Because that could be the end of your career.

00:17:33.000 And it's one thing to end your career on something you believe in.

00:17:36.000 Like my advertising career was ended when I said trans people are just mentally okay.

00:17:40.000 That felt great.

00:17:41.000 Right.

00:17:42.000 Because I do believe that.

00:17:43.000 But when it's something that you don't believe, like Kobe O'Brien is an N-word.

00:17:48.000 Kobe O'Brien.

00:17:50.000 Kobe Bryant.

00:17:51.000 Kobe O'Brien.

00:17:52.000 Losing your career for that.

00:17:53.000 Anyway, have we got...

00:17:58.000 You ever do that?

00:17:59.000 And you're like, oh.

00:18:00.000 Like somebody else's kid.

00:18:02.000 Your face just gets hot.

00:18:03.000 And you're like, no, it doesn't.

00:18:05.000 I could care less if I...

00:18:12.000 What else should we talk about?

00:18:15.000 I've got a lot of news here.

00:18:16.000 I think this is the...

00:18:20.000 Larry Barnes is supposed to come by the side.

00:18:21.000 Oh, he's in the green room.

00:18:22.000 Is he in the green room now?

00:18:23.000 He is.

00:18:23.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:18:24.000 Okay, here's what I want to do.

00:18:25.000 I want to go through that fight frame by frame.

00:18:28.000 We'll introduce him and shit first.

00:18:31.000 And then pull up.

00:18:32.000 Make sure you have Gladiator ready.

00:18:35.000 And when I yell, when I yell, are you not entertained?

00:18:38.000 Go to B-roll.

00:18:39.000 Oh, that scene?

00:18:40.000 Yeah.

00:18:40.000 Okay.

00:18:41.000 Let's get him.

00:18:41.000 Gotcha.

00:18:42.000 All right.

00:18:44.000 Actually, wait, wait, wait.

00:18:45.000 I'm going to get him and take him straight to the green room.

00:18:48.000 There's nowhere to sit here.

00:18:49.000 I'll take him straight to the green room.

00:18:50.000 He'll be on the green screen.

00:18:52.000 I'll be talking with a microphone to him, and then I'll escort him out.

00:18:56.000 All right.

00:19:05.000 Hi, my name is Larry Barnes.

00:19:07.000 I'm from Mount Vernon, New York.

00:19:08.000 I stand five feet six inches, and I used to weigh 147 pounds.

00:19:13.000 I was a former number one contender by the IBF, and I fought Felix Trinidad November 18th, Saturday night, 1995.

00:19:20.000 I was the number one IBF contender.

00:19:23.000 You were a welterweight champion.

00:19:24.000 Yes, I was, the WBO version.

00:19:27.000 And the state champion.

00:19:28.000 And I was the New York State Champ twice, And the North American champ as well.

00:19:33.000 Now, I noticed when anyone looks you up, this fight comes up pretty regularly.

00:19:37.000 Why is this such an important fight?

00:19:39.000 Well, I think this fight was the feature not only of my career, but the highlight of my life.

00:19:45.000 And it was on HBO, and it was the first time anybody on the East Coast had seen Felix Trinidad fighting on HBO.

00:19:54.000 And did this fight change you?

00:19:56.000 Well, yes, and in many aspects, the fight changed me.

00:20:00.000 Going into the fight, I hadn't lost in five years.

00:20:03.000 I had rung up 22 fights, seven or eight knockouts, and I became the number one challenge in the world.

00:20:10.000 But when I fought Felix Trinidad, after that night, I was never the same fighter ever again.

00:20:17.000 What was your record now?

00:20:19.000 My record ended up 45 wins, three losses, and 17 KOs.

00:20:25.000 And what was your amateur record?

00:20:27.000 45 wins, five losses.

00:20:29.000 So what is that together?

00:20:31.000 That's 98 fights.

00:20:33.000 That's amazing.

00:20:34.000 And how many losses out of 98?

00:20:36.000 Out of 98, I'm 90 wins, eight losses combined with both careers.

00:20:41.000 And KOs?

00:20:43.000 38, 39 KOs.

00:20:46.000 What's the secret to a knockout punch?

00:20:48.000 Well, you got to put your whole body into it and you got to make sure that you land precisely.

00:20:54.000 And you guess right on the chin or the body shot, body shot, headshot.

00:20:59.000 Just like Mike Tyson, the old late custom out used to show him.

00:21:02.000 Hit him with two punches with the same hand.

00:21:05.000 Bow!

00:21:06.000 Okay, catch him on the body, get his attention, get his head down, snap his head up, left hook, snap his head off.

00:21:13.000 What does it feel like to knock a man out?

00:21:15.000 Oh, it feels extraordinary.

00:21:17.000 Yes, very extraordinary.

00:21:19.000 Like you're the king of the world.

00:21:21.000 Wow.

00:21:22.000 You know, and no, but you could get knocked out also.

00:21:25.000 So, you know, vice versa versus visa.

00:21:28.000 I mean, it's a two-way street here.

00:21:30.000 So you're kind of, well, every time that you talk to fighters, they say I'm kind of living in fear the whole time because I'm scared I'm going to get knocked out.

00:21:38.000 But you were known as Larry No Fear Barnes.

00:21:40.000 Yeah, you know what?

00:21:41.000 I took chances, and, you know, you got to be no fear to take chances.

00:21:45.000 And you know what?

00:21:46.000 Sometimes it might not be with you, and it might be with you.

00:21:50.000 So when I'm no fear, I'm hoping it's with me.

00:21:54.000 You take the gamble.

00:21:55.000 You got it.

00:21:56.000 Boxing is a gamble.

00:21:57.000 Life is a gamble.

00:21:58.000 All right.

00:21:59.000 Well, let's start the fight.

00:22:00.000 So this is where exactly?

00:22:02.000 Atlantic City, New Jersey.

00:22:04.000 And you're looking at the referee, Benji Estevez, and that's me 24 years ago.

00:22:10.000 I was the number one IBF contender.

00:22:12.000 You can see me with management in the back.

00:22:15.000 The management that fucked you over.

00:22:17.000 Yeah, you know, in all dexterity, that's what happened.

00:22:24.000 That's the way it was back then, though.

00:22:25.000 Like, I was reading about Jack Dempsey.

00:22:29.000 And he was fucked over by his manager, and that's going back to, like, the 1800s.

00:22:34.000 Yeah, the early, early, early 1900s, late 1800s, right after the turn of the 20th century.

00:22:42.000 You know, then Jack Johnson came around.

00:22:44.000 You know, then he was squabbled with.

00:22:47.000 There was things.

00:22:48.000 It happened to better men than me.

00:22:50.000 I'm not the first guy that's going to end up broke, and I'm not the last guy.

00:22:54.000 Here, they're introducing me in the fight.

00:22:57.000 I'm ready to go.

00:22:58.000 Now they're introducing Felix Trinidad, him and his aunt.

00:23:02.000 Is he Puerto Rican?

00:23:03.000 Yeah, he was from Puerto Rico.

00:23:04.000 He had the Puerto Rican flag.

00:23:06.000 He was 26-0 with 22 knockouts.

00:23:09.000 He was hot as a firecracker on the 4th of July.

00:23:09.000 Wow.

00:23:13.000 What was your record then?

00:23:14.000 39-1 with 15 KOs.

00:23:17.000 Nice.

00:23:18.000 Now, when I watch you fight, it seems to me like your trademark is this bobbing and weaving up and down.

00:23:25.000 From the old, the late, great Joe Frazier and Mike Tyson.

00:23:28.000 You know, if you're going to mimic somebody, you might as well mimic the best.

00:23:32.000 And Mike Tyson and Joe Frazier at that time were the best.

00:23:36.000 Joe Frazier was retired, but Mike Tyson was still going on, so I was mimicking Mike Tyson for the most part of my career.

00:23:44.000 Really?

00:23:45.000 I thought his thing was just an insane knockout punch out of the beginning.

00:23:49.000 Well, not only that, I took some stuff from when him and Customatic used to work on the bobbing and weaving and the peekaboo style and going out the peekaboo style and fighting out of the peekaboo.

00:24:00.000 What's the peekaboo style?

00:24:01.000 Both hands here and going this way, looking that way, making sure that you can peekaboo.

00:24:06.000 You hit him, make him miss, and you hit him.

00:24:08.000 You make him pay.

00:24:10.000 What was Tyson?

00:24:11.000 Wait, pause, pause.

00:24:12.000 What was Tyson like?

00:24:13.000 Oh, Mike Tyson, if he hit you, you thought he had dynamite in his hands.

00:24:18.000 You would explode right away.

00:24:19.000 Really?

00:24:20.000 You would explode right away.

00:24:22.000 Mike Tyson was the ultimate put to sleeper.

00:24:26.000 If he hit you, you went out for the count of 10.

00:24:28.000 What was he like as a guy?

00:24:29.000 You hung out with Mike?

00:24:30.000 I hung out with Mike a few times.

00:24:31.000 Mike Tyson was a real nice guy, and he still is a nice guy.

00:24:35.000 Anytime anybody tell you anything negative about Mike Tyson, it's basically not true.

00:24:40.000 You got to see the man, Mike Tyson.

00:24:43.000 Not the boxer, the man.

00:24:45.000 Didn't he beat the shit out of Don King in a hotel?

00:24:48.000 I think he did after he was released from.

00:24:51.000 Because he was ripped off, too.

00:24:52.000 He was ripped off, too.

00:24:54.000 And some friends told him his money was missing and a lot of it.

00:24:58.000 He had to do something about it.

00:25:00.000 What was it, like 700 grand?

00:25:02.000 I think a little bit more than that.

00:25:03.000 I think it was like $200 or $300 million.

00:25:07.000 And that's a lot of money.

00:25:09.000 So Mike Tyson, from what I heard, from what I understood, he confronted Don King in the Beverly Hills Hotel.

00:25:17.000 And Don King denied.

00:25:19.000 That's when he started kicking and stomping Don King in front of a bunch of white women.

00:25:23.000 And they thought he was some black heathen.

00:25:26.000 And he was just punishing Don until the police got there.

00:25:30.000 And he said, when he went to court, he got $20 million.

00:25:34.000 He said, but you know what?

00:25:36.000 Don messed up everything.

00:25:38.000 He don't know how to love nobody.

00:25:39.000 He don't even know how to love his mother.

00:25:41.000 He would sell his mother for own dollar.

00:25:43.000 And these are the words of Mike Tyson, what he said on the documentary.

00:25:47.000 So, you know, it must have been true.

00:25:49.000 I mean, he was really upset, you know.

00:25:51.000 And I understand when the cops saw him beating Don King.

00:25:54.000 I think they took their time getting him.

00:25:57.000 They sort of took their time getting him off because, you know, $200 million is not a drop in the high.

00:26:04.000 That's a lot of money.

00:26:05.000 No, that's pretty bad.

00:26:06.000 All right, let's start the fight.

00:26:06.000 That's a lot of money.

00:26:08.000 Ding, ding!

00:26:09.000 Here I am getting ready to face a great fighter, Felix Trinidad.

00:26:16.000 I'm going into the fight, I'm very confident.

00:26:20.000 And I really want to go at him.

00:26:20.000 Okay.

00:26:20.000 Okay?

00:26:25.000 I'm being aggressive.

00:26:26.000 I'm coming out smoking.

00:26:30.000 See, that bobbing weaving thing, he just can't hit you.

00:26:33.000 It bothered him for the first couple of rounds until he timed me.

00:26:39.000 Now, he's circling motion.

00:26:42.000 At this point, at this time, everything is fast motion here.

00:26:46.000 It was like me being on a moped and he was in a Ferrari.

00:26:49.000 That's what...

00:26:53.000 He pushed my head down and my knee touched.

00:26:56.000 And Benji's step-ass told me to get up.

00:26:59.000 And so after that, I'm still going to push me.

00:27:04.000 Are you mad at this point?

00:27:05.000 No, I'm not mad.

00:27:06.000 I'm just trying to figure a way how to get in and navigate to go to the body.

00:27:12.000 That's what I'm basically looking for.

00:27:15.000 Because he's so tall.

00:27:16.000 He's so tall.

00:27:17.000 They told me he was 5'10 and a half inches.

00:27:20.000 When I got in the ring, he was 6 feet and a half inches.

00:27:23.000 I said, that's a long way from 5'10.

00:27:26.000 Yeah.

00:27:26.000 And it's hard to hit someone's head when it's that high.

00:27:28.000 It is.

00:27:30.000 You're going low.

00:27:31.000 I'm going low.

00:27:32.000 I'm trying to land.

00:27:33.000 I'm getting at him.

00:27:34.000 He can't get you.

00:27:36.000 And he's throwing hectic punches.

00:27:38.000 Okay?

00:27:39.000 And sometimes he's hitting me, sometimes he's not.

00:27:42.000 But for the most part, I got to be aware of what he's doing.

00:27:47.000 And he's watching my left hook.

00:27:49.000 And I'm trying to get into a level where I can throw the right hand.

00:27:53.000 Look at that.

00:27:54.000 He missed you like 10 times in a row.

00:27:56.000 Like 10 times.

00:27:58.000 If anybody else would have hit, he would have knocked out by this time.

00:28:03.000 So it seems like a left hook to the head is the only time you go for the head.

00:28:06.000 Yeah, because he wouldn't let me throw the right hand to the body because he hit me with a left hook of his own to the body.

00:28:13.000 So I was protecting my right hand, so I wouldn't get hit with that body shot.

00:28:19.000 Now, you had a lot of gas in the tank.

00:28:22.000 Yes, I did.

00:28:23.000 I definitely had a lot of gas.

00:28:24.000 And I think it's because of your insane training.

00:28:28.000 That's because of running 10 miles a day, then from running 10 miles a day, jumping in the pool and swimming a mile, and like swimming 60 laps in like 50 minutes.

00:28:39.000 Then I would get out, then I would watch the pool deck when I worked at Mount Vernon High School.

00:28:45.000 I was a gym teacher's assistant when I worked as a boxer for 20 years.

00:28:50.000 So, you know, the staff, they allowed me to work a day for a while.

00:28:55.000 But you wouldn't run on a treadmill, so you must have been running all over New York.

00:28:58.000 Yes, that's how my hips got destroyed.

00:29:01.000 I was running all over the tri-state area, and pretty soon after I retired, I needed a hip replacement.

00:29:07.000 And you wouldn't just jog 10 miles.

00:29:09.000 You would run.

00:29:10.000 I was really running like I stole something.

00:29:13.000 And I was trying to get from one town to the next.

00:29:18.000 And I probably had like a six-minute and ten-second mile.

00:29:22.000 I mean, radius.

00:29:23.000 Every minute was like six minutes.

00:29:25.000 So 10 miles would be an hour.

00:29:29.000 If that.

00:29:30.000 Wow.

00:29:30.000 58 minutes, you know.

00:29:32.000 That's nuts.

00:29:33.000 Well, that's coming in handy here.

00:29:35.000 Yeah.

00:29:36.000 And this way he can't hit me right now.

00:29:38.000 Right now, he's a little nervous because he doesn't know how to handle me.

00:29:44.000 And any of the guys, he would hurt already.

00:29:46.000 And I'm cutting him off, but he's changing directions in the ring.

00:29:50.000 And everything is much faster.

00:29:53.000 Everything is.

00:29:55.000 See, right now it looks slow, but and there's a speed of light.

00:29:59.000 Yeah, no, it looks fast here.

00:30:01.000 You know, I'm just moving.

00:30:02.000 People watching.

00:30:03.000 It's crowded at the Civic Center in Atlantic City.

00:30:08.000 How much would the purse be for a fight like this?

00:30:10.000 Well, I was the number one contender in the world.

00:30:12.000 I was promised $250,000.

00:30:16.000 He got a million dollars.

00:30:18.000 Okay.

00:30:19.000 But knowing from what I know now, from what government officials told me, I got a little bit more than that.

00:30:27.000 See, I never saw what I got.

00:30:29.000 They never showed me any contracts.

00:30:31.000 So I had to go off their word.

00:30:33.000 Now, your manager was your trainer.

00:30:35.000 Yes.

00:30:36.000 And they don't do that anymore since you got ripped off.

00:30:38.000 That's why.

00:30:39.000 They won't say what happened to Larry Bonds, but after I retired, they put a rule and they put a national rule in the sport of boxing.

00:30:48.000 You can only be the manager, and the trainer can be the trainer.

00:30:51.000 You can't be both.

00:30:54.000 You changed the game.

00:30:56.000 To a certain extent.

00:31:00.000 The hair trender that is pumping that jab out.

00:31:03.000 I'm trying to catch him.

00:31:04.000 I'm trying to catch him.

00:31:06.000 He's moving perpendicular, far to the right, while I'm trying to move to my left to catch him with a right hand.

00:31:13.000 But he's just moving.

00:31:15.000 And Benji Estevez is watching the fight.

00:31:17.000 Now, I known Benji Estevez my whole life.

00:31:22.000 When I got caught with that left hook on the temple in the fourth round, I didn't know who I was or where I was at.

00:31:31.000 And I'll tell you right now, Benji Estevez looked like Rod Sterling from the Twilight Zone.

00:31:36.000 I didn't know who he was.

00:31:38.000 He said, it's over, Larry.

00:31:40.000 I said, all right.

00:31:44.000 Now, I'm going to take some punishment here after this round.

00:31:50.000 How are you feeling right now?

00:31:52.000 Right now, I felt that my gas tank was getting revved up.

00:31:56.000 Right now, my gas tank was getting revved up, and I just had to figure him out.

00:32:00.000 So you're not remotely tired right now?

00:32:02.000 No, not at all.

00:32:04.000 I'm just trying to just pick him apart and just move.

00:32:07.000 And he's just looking for the Yangles to get a good shot.

00:32:11.000 I got my hands up.

00:32:13.000 It looks like he's just going for a KO.

00:32:15.000 Yes, he is, but he can't hit me right now because I'm moving my head.

00:32:19.000 I'm all over the place.

00:32:21.000 But I caught him with a straight jab right there.

00:32:26.000 Right there.

00:32:27.000 He's just moving.

00:32:28.000 That's the first round.

00:32:29.000 That's the first round.

00:32:31.000 Second round coming up.

00:32:33.000 Round two.

00:32:35.000 Now, right here.

00:32:37.000 What did the coach say?

00:32:38.000 What did your trainer say when you're in the corner now?

00:32:40.000 Now you're doing good, baby.

00:32:41.000 Keep going.

00:32:42.000 I said, Yeah, right.

00:32:43.000 What is that?

00:32:43.000 You know, give me some instructions.

00:32:45.000 Now, watch this.

00:32:46.000 I get him nearly, I nearly get him here.

00:32:49.000 I really try to get him, but I fall a little short right here.

00:32:52.000 Watch this.

00:32:53.000 Boom, boom.

00:32:54.000 Oh.

00:32:55.000 Okay.

00:32:56.000 He has to get out of there because I'm very dangerous at that point of the fight now.

00:33:00.000 If either of those connected, it would have been a different thing.

00:33:02.000 It would have been all over.

00:33:03.000 It would have been all over.

00:33:04.000 I would have been the new welterweight champion of the world.

00:33:07.000 See, in boxing, inches and miles make a long difference.

00:33:12.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:33:12.000 Right.

00:33:13.000 And here I am now trying to get back on him, cut him off.

00:33:16.000 He's using his jab.

00:33:17.000 I'm moving.

00:33:18.000 He's not hitting me with that.

00:33:20.000 So now he seems to be trying to do more uppercuts to catch you when you go down.

00:33:23.000 He catch me coming in.

00:33:26.000 He catches me coming in in the next round.

00:33:28.000 Everybody in the third row took a shower.

00:33:30.000 Trinidad just grabbed him.

00:33:32.000 I see Trinidad's having a little problem trying to figure out the style because he's...

00:33:35.000 See, now he hit me with a body shot, so now I'm not letting my right hand go the way I want it to go because now if I let my right hand go, he's going to go underneath with his left.

00:33:45.000 He was taking chances as well as I was taking chances.

00:33:49.000 I tried copying you once by ducking like crazy, and after about 10 seconds, I was beat.

00:33:54.000 Well, when you fought Thursday, May 25th, 2019, you look well.

00:33:59.000 You really look well against that guy from North Carolina.

00:34:02.000 Copper Cab.

00:34:03.000 Copper Cab, yes.

00:34:05.000 Hey, now Benji Esteban just told him, stop pushing my head down.

00:34:09.000 See?

00:34:11.000 Did he lose points for that?

00:34:12.000 No, he just got worn because that was the first time Benji caught him.

00:34:16.000 Now right now, I'm just trying to get him in the corner.

00:34:20.000 That looked like a nice right to his rib cage.

00:34:22.000 Yes, I'm trying everything, but this guy, it was like me being on a moped and he was in the Ferrari.

00:34:29.000 I just couldn't cut off the corner because he was just moving like the speed of light.

00:34:36.000 At this point, I'm not tired.

00:34:37.000 I've trained 14 minutes for this.

00:34:40.000 So I'm in tip-top shape.

00:34:42.000 I can see the 10 miles a day showing.

00:34:48.000 You also barely ate back then, right?

00:34:51.000 You'd have like a little bowl of fruit?

00:34:52.000 Fruit, vegetables, steam oatmeal, stuff like that.

00:34:56.000 Now, fighters today, they eat five, six times a day.

00:35:01.000 I really never drunk any water in the gym.

00:35:04.000 I never really drunk any water in the gym.

00:35:07.000 What's your secret to losing weight?

00:35:09.000 You have to watch your diet, and you have to train hard, and you have to eat when you're supposed to eat.

00:35:15.000 You also said once, don't eat at night.

00:35:17.000 If you eat at night, the food is going to sit in your stomach, and the food is going to lay there, and it's going to pile up calories over the 24-hour period that you sleep.

00:35:27.000 So when you wake up, you're more than a pound and a half heavy because all that food is in your stomach, no matter what it is.

00:35:35.000 What did we miss there?

00:35:39.000 I'm coming at him.

00:35:40.000 I'm coming at him.

00:35:40.000 This is the second round still.

00:35:42.000 No.

00:35:43.000 Now, in the third round, I get caught with a left uppercut.

00:35:46.000 And it's drastic, but I'm still there.

00:35:50.000 But did it disorient you?

00:35:52.000 Now, I'm going to show you the shot that disoriented me.

00:35:55.000 The shot he hit me with in the fourth round.

00:35:58.000 That disoriented me.

00:35:59.000 It seems like that mask is a Dragon mask, which is the name of Larry Barnes' manager, Albino Dragon.

00:36:08.000 And she, he had to watch me.

00:36:12.000 He had to continuously watch me.

00:36:15.000 Maybe watch me because he didn't.

00:36:18.000 I was just moving up forward.

00:36:20.000 I kept coming forward, as you can see.

00:36:22.000 And he kept changing directions.

00:36:24.000 He's got to be one of the taller welterweights ever.

00:36:27.000 Oh, nice.

00:36:28.000 I almost got him back in.

00:36:33.000 Now he's all about uppercuts.

00:36:37.000 Now I'm starting to stand up a little higher now because I'm trying to fight him.

00:36:42.000 So now when I get hit on the chin, it's not really anything.

00:36:48.000 But when I get hit on the temple, it's everything.

00:36:51.000 In this fight or in general?

00:36:53.000 No, in this fight.

00:36:54.000 Not this round.

00:36:57.000 I'm going to get hit with a left uppercut in this round.

00:37:00.000 And everybody's going to take a shower in the third, fourth row.

00:37:02.000 Watch this.

00:37:05.000 With the idea, perhaps, of tiring Barnes out.

00:37:09.000 And if he goes to, if Trinidad continues to go to his right, he can shoot his right hand and not have to.

00:37:15.000 He's a real tall welterweight.

00:37:17.000 Yes, he is.

00:37:18.000 Because he shouldn't be throwing his punch first.

00:37:20.000 This is what I'm used to fighting.

00:37:21.000 I'm not used to fighting like this.

00:37:23.000 But I'm not making no excuses.

00:37:26.000 The show got to go on.

00:37:28.000 This is what it is.

00:37:30.000 And when I talked to Larry Merchant after this fight, I made no excuses.

00:37:33.000 I told him, hey, that's boxing.

00:37:35.000 What are you going to do?

00:37:36.000 Yes, he ought to be jabbing.

00:37:40.000 The jab would be perfect to see.

00:37:42.000 Watch so fast.

00:37:43.000 Watch this.

00:37:43.000 Everything is just fast.

00:37:45.000 Everything right now is just fast motion.

00:37:47.000 If he can come back with a left hook.

00:37:49.000 What's the jab can create swelling?

00:37:51.000 Yep.

00:37:53.000 And then the dragon mask would be truly tested.

00:37:57.000 Watch this, watch this.

00:37:59.000 Say one thing.

00:38:00.000 If Larry Barnes continues to get away from this.

00:38:02.000 Watch this, watch this.

00:38:03.000 He's going to get nailed when he dropped down.

00:38:07.000 And he's got to be very precise.

00:38:11.000 He don't know what I'm going to come with.

00:38:13.000 Anything.

00:38:14.000 See the right hand I almost went with.

00:38:16.000 He's moving.

00:38:18.000 Trinidad is keeping his distance.

00:38:20.000 Trying to go to the body.

00:38:22.000 He almost got him.

00:38:29.000 Now, after this round, he got a little nervous because he didn't know what to do.

00:38:34.000 That was the uppercut he caught me with.

00:38:34.000 No, I missed it.

00:38:37.000 Oh, shit.

00:38:38.000 Show that again.

00:38:39.000 You saw the sweat go flying off.

00:38:41.000 Can you go frame by frame?

00:38:43.000 Yeah.

00:38:44.000 Everybody got wet, man.

00:38:45.000 Everybody took a shower there.

00:38:48.000 No, that's not frame by frame.

00:38:50.000 Use the greater than key.

00:38:53.000 Now, you see that shot right there?

00:38:54.000 Anybody else would have been out on their feet.

00:38:57.000 I was like Tomex.

00:38:57.000 I took it.

00:38:58.000 I took a, yes.

00:39:00.000 Oh.

00:39:01.000 I was like Tomex.

00:39:02.000 I took a lick and he kept on taking it.

00:39:04.000 Yes, sir.

00:39:05.000 That was right on the button, too.

00:39:07.000 And he got worried because anybody else you would hear would have been out of there already.

00:39:12.000 Did you have an iron chin?

00:39:13.000 Yeah, back then, right there, I had a cast iron jaw.

00:39:18.000 How many times have you been knocked out in fights?

00:39:21.000 Him and my last fight, I got stopped.

00:39:24.000 They stopped me on the store.

00:39:25.000 But not like hit in the head out cold.

00:39:28.000 No.

00:39:28.000 Never?

00:39:29.000 Never.

00:39:31.000 And let me just tell you something.

00:39:34.000 Here's the round where the crude de grace comes.

00:39:38.000 This is the round.

00:39:39.000 Okay.

00:39:40.000 Well, wait, before we get there, you met a lot of celebrities.

00:39:44.000 Yeah, I sure did.

00:39:46.000 I met a whole lot of celebrities.

00:39:48.000 A lot of people just really extravagant to be at the fights, you know.

00:39:54.000 Danny DeVito, you liked.

00:39:56.000 Harry Connick Jr. were gentlemen.

00:39:58.000 Connie Jr.

00:39:58.000 You know, my last fight in Las Vegas, I'm walking down, I'm around Caesar's Palace, and guess who I see?

00:40:07.000 He's very tall.

00:40:09.000 I saw Clint Eastwood.

00:40:10.000 He's about 6'4, 6'5.

00:40:13.000 I said, good afternoon, Mr. Eastwood.

00:40:16.000 He says, good afternoon.

00:40:18.000 He said, good luck tomorrow night.

00:40:20.000 So I guess he knew who I was.

00:40:22.000 They were all fans.

00:40:23.000 Mike Douglas, Mike Douglas, Catherine Geta Jones.

00:40:27.000 They were always at the fights.

00:40:29.000 The late, great Miles Davis, the late, great Benny Hill.

00:40:32.000 I mean, like Steven Spielberg and his late mother.

00:40:36.000 They were all there.

00:40:37.000 Oh, his mother was a fan.

00:40:39.000 Big fan.

00:40:40.000 Big fan.

00:40:41.000 What was that story where they said, hey, come with this champ?

00:40:44.000 And you said, no.

00:40:45.000 You know, I said, you know what?

00:40:46.000 Maybe next time, Danny, I say, maybe next time.

00:40:50.000 Danny DeVito.

00:40:51.000 Yeah.

00:40:51.000 I said, maybe next time.

00:40:53.000 I says, you know, I want to stay in my place.

00:40:55.000 You know, and the garden, I'm just as famous as those guys.

00:40:58.000 Outside of the garden, I'm just the regular guy.

00:41:01.000 Everybody knows who they are.

00:41:02.000 So, you know, you got to know when to say yeah, and you got to know when to say no.

00:41:07.000 Right.

00:41:07.000 You know, you got to know when to accept your welcome.

00:41:10.000 Are you not entertained?

00:41:14.000 Isn't that why you're here?

00:41:18.000 What do you want?

00:41:20.000 A girl, a boy?

00:41:21.000 You sent for me?

00:41:22.000 Yes, I did.

00:41:24.000 You're a good Spaniard, but you're not that good.

00:41:26.000 You could be magnificent.

00:41:28.000 I'm required to kill, so I killed.

00:41:30.000 That is enough.

00:41:31.000 That's not enough for the Providence.

00:41:34.000 Not for Rome.

00:41:35.000 The young emperor has arranged a series of spectacles to commemorate his father, Marcus Aurelius.

00:41:41.000 I find that amusing because it was the old Marcus Aurelius, the old and wise, as we know, who closed this down.

00:41:47.000 So after five long years of scratching and living and being in fee-infested villages, we go back to where we belong.

00:41:54.000 You should see the Colosseum, Spaniard.

00:41:57.000 50,000 Romans watching every movement of your sword, willing you to make that killer blow.

00:42:04.000 The silence before you strike and the noise afterwards, it rises.

00:42:10.000 It rises up like storm.

00:42:11.000 If you were the Thunder God yourself, you were a gladiator.

00:42:16.000 You knew Marcus Aurelius?

00:42:17.000 I didn't say that I knew him.

00:42:18.000 I said he talked to me on the shoulder once.

00:42:25.000 Okay, let's do round four.

00:42:26.000 This is the biggie.

00:42:28.000 This is the life-changing moment.

00:42:31.000 How are you feeling?

00:42:32.000 Wait, wait, pause, because there's so much build-up to this.

00:42:34.000 How are you feeling right now?

00:42:36.000 Oh, I'm feeling good.

00:42:37.000 I know that I probably drawed a round.

00:42:41.000 Can you pull your mic up close to me?

00:42:43.000 I know I probably draw it around or probably won a round, but they had him up three to nothing.

00:42:49.000 It didn't really bother me because at that point, I think I was still in the fight until I got hit.

00:42:55.000 And once I got hit, that was the crew de graw.

00:42:58.000 Well, what's amazing about this sport is I'm watching this, and so far I've seen about 10 punches that, if they had connected, would have ended the fight.

00:43:07.000 Yes.

00:43:07.000 So it's this constant gamble, this constant coin toss.

00:43:11.000 Yeah, that's what I'm doing because I have to do that because he's not going to stand and fight me.

00:43:16.000 He's going to pepper away, pick and choose his spots.

00:43:19.000 And he watched me over the years like I watched him for the last two, three years.

00:43:24.000 So he pretty much knows what I'm going to do.

00:43:26.000 And I'm pretty much thinking what he's going to do.

00:43:29.000 And this is why he was the champ.

00:43:31.000 And I was the number one challenger.

00:43:33.000 Let's forward.

00:43:34.000 Okay, let's do it.

00:43:38.000 I'm back on the grind here.

00:43:40.000 I'm seeing what I can do.

00:43:41.000 Wait, what was that?

00:43:43.000 What?

00:43:43.000 You put in a headlock?

00:43:44.000 No, because once I tried to grab him, he tried to get away from me.

00:43:50.000 Right here.

00:43:50.000 I tried to hook.

00:43:53.000 Oh.

00:43:53.000 Okay, he tried to grab it.

00:43:55.000 He knew that if I would have let go some punches, it would have been a problem.

00:44:01.000 So now he's moving.

00:44:02.000 He's moving.

00:44:08.000 Not yet, not yet.

00:44:11.000 Not yet, not yet.

00:44:14.000 Trinidad left.

00:44:15.000 Not yet.

00:44:18.000 About a minute and 30 seconds, I'm going to get caught with a block bust.

00:44:26.000 But you still feel great right now.

00:44:27.000 Yeah, I still feel great right now.

00:44:29.000 I still feel great right now.

00:44:32.000 So that uppercut in the previous round didn't do anything?

00:44:35.000 It didn't do anything to me.

00:44:36.000 I shook it off.

00:44:37.000 Wow.

00:44:38.000 Because I got hit on the chin.

00:44:40.000 Here, I get hit on the temple.

00:44:42.000 Here's where I zigged when I should have zagged.

00:44:44.000 He just can't come flying in wide open.

00:44:47.000 Make sure we don't miss that.

00:44:48.000 I also believe Tony has triggered that jab more.

00:44:52.000 He's going to come down again.

00:44:53.000 He's going to come around again.

00:44:55.000 Here we go.

00:44:57.000 Make him stand straighter.

00:44:59.000 Gives him a bigger body target.

00:45:03.000 When you stand him up, then you open yourself up to left hooks and right hands.

00:45:07.000 And that's what Trinidad's doing.

00:45:08.000 He's listening to you, Dick.

00:45:10.000 He's throwing that left jab, and they're all landing.

00:45:12.000 He can feel the tension.

00:45:15.000 Watch this.

00:45:16.000 Bow!

00:45:17.000 That's it.

00:45:18.000 Oh, wow.

00:45:19.000 That's it.

00:45:20.000 Let's touch that 100 times.

00:45:21.000 That was the crew to grow.

00:45:23.000 That's when I zigged when I showed this.

00:45:26.000 Wow.

00:45:26.000 You can see you're stumbling there.

00:45:27.000 What?

00:45:28.000 He hit me on the temple.

00:45:29.000 Everybody, right there, watch.

00:45:32.000 Left hook on the temple.

00:45:33.000 Bow!

00:45:34.000 And I saw the sweat fly out.

00:45:35.000 Yes.

00:45:37.000 Now I'm in the world of trouble.

00:45:39.000 Now I come out of it.

00:45:40.000 I see three of him, Gavin.

00:45:42.000 No.

00:45:43.000 I see three of him right now.

00:45:45.000 And the one in the middle is not doing anything.

00:45:48.000 It's the two on the side doing me in.

00:45:50.000 Okay?

00:45:51.000 The one in the middle is doing nothing.

00:45:53.000 It's the guys on the side doing it.

00:45:55.000 But I'm still cocky.

00:45:58.000 I'm still game.

00:46:00.000 But you're fighting three men.

00:46:02.000 Oh, I can see it now.

00:46:03.000 can see that it's taken its toll.

00:46:14.000 And he senses it too.

00:46:15.000 Oh, yeah, he smelled blood.

00:46:16.000 Look at everybody standing.

00:46:18.000 Everybody can't believe that I'm still fighting.

00:46:21.000 Are you in kind of autopilot right now?

00:46:23.000 Autopilot?

00:46:25.000 I don't even know if I'm in cruise control or I crack.

00:46:29.000 I don't know what's going on right now.

00:46:30.000 There's no one in the plane.

00:46:32.000 There's no one in the plane.

00:46:36.000 I'm still trying to fight.

00:46:38.000 Oh, he got you there too in the guts.

00:46:40.000 Watch this.

00:46:42.000 This is really easy to miss.

00:46:47.000 Watch the body shot he catch me.

00:46:50.000 25 seconds here in the fourth round.

00:46:57.000 I always miss that.

00:46:59.000 It doesn't look that bad on camera.

00:47:02.000 Well, I urinated blood for 10 days after that.

00:47:05.000 Oh, show us exactly on your body where it landed.

00:47:08.000 He hit me right up under the floating rib and the liver.

00:47:12.000 And that caused blood to bleed internally.

00:47:16.000 I bled for 10 days after the fight.

00:47:18.000 People don't realize that with boxers.

00:47:20.000 They're constantly pissing blood after a fight.

00:47:22.000 Look at me.

00:47:23.000 Look at me.

00:47:24.000 Many people of my friends said in my hometown, I look like the Pope praying.

00:47:29.000 Look, Benji said it's over.

00:47:31.000 I said, all right.

00:47:34.000 He looked like Rod Sterling to me.

00:47:35.000 I don't know where.

00:47:36.000 Look at me.

00:47:37.000 I don't know where I'm at.

00:47:38.000 Totally disoriented.

00:47:39.000 What did it feel like?

00:47:40.000 Just fire in your gut?

00:47:42.000 Yeah.

00:47:43.000 Totally fire in my gut.

00:47:46.000 Like a volcano ready to erupt.

00:47:50.000 And that was his seventh title defense.

00:47:52.000 Hey, listen.

00:47:53.000 I went over to his dressing room.

00:47:55.000 I thanked him.

00:47:56.000 And, you know, everybody gave me a lot of prayers.

00:47:58.000 They told me I was a tough guy.

00:48:00.000 They said, better luck next time.

00:48:02.000 They were a bunch of good sports.

00:48:04.000 And five years later, maybe six years later, 2001, May 12th, Saturday night, he's fighting William Joppy at the garden in front of many celebrities.

00:48:17.000 He would see no one.

00:48:19.000 I saw his interpreter.

00:48:20.000 I said, I wanted to see Felix Trinidad.

00:48:22.000 I want to say good luck to him.

00:48:24.000 You know what?

00:48:25.000 Him and his father allowed me to see him.

00:48:27.000 They came in and they shook my hand.

00:48:29.000 I came in and they shook my hand and we talked a little bit.

00:48:33.000 And I said to him, you know, I'm going to leave you now.

00:48:35.000 I know you're busy, but I just wanted to say good luck.

00:48:38.000 He said to me as I walked out, on my way walking out, he says, hey, Laddie.

00:48:43.000 I said, yeah.

00:48:44.000 He says, you're very heavy now.

00:48:46.000 I says, no kidding.

00:48:50.000 So, and you see that shot right there?

00:48:53.000 That's the shot right there that they got on the wall in Mount Vernon.

00:48:56.000 Oh, yeah.

00:48:57.000 That's the shot they got on the wall right there.

00:48:59.000 Yeah.

00:49:00.000 You know, I landed a right hook on him.

00:49:04.000 And that was a good shot that wobbled him.

00:49:07.000 Yeah.

00:49:08.000 But other than that, that was it.

00:49:10.000 So that wasn't your last fight?

00:49:12.000 I had seven more fights after that.

00:49:14.000 I knocked out a couple of guys.

00:49:17.000 Then I went to Vegas and I fought Yuri Boy Campus.

00:49:21.000 He also knocked his Yuri Boy Campus out in the fourth round.

00:49:24.000 He almost murdered him when he knocked him out.

00:49:27.000 So I lost to two guys who were much bigger than me and they had much more experience.

00:49:34.000 When I say much more experience, they had been fighting longer than I have.

00:49:38.000 So I retired after that fight, September 18th, Friday, 1998.

00:49:45.000 Then he fought Oscar De La Hoya September 18th, Saturday, 1999, and the Unification Walter Way showdown.

00:49:55.000 Many people thought Oscar De La Hoya won, and they asked me, I said, from my point of view, Oscar De La Hoya chose to go away in the later rounds, and he started to come on.

00:50:07.000 And that's why he got the fight over Oscar De La Hoya.

00:50:11.000 All right, well, last question.

00:50:13.000 Based on that fight, what would you tell a young fighter who just went pro?

00:50:19.000 What advice would you give him to avoid getting knocked out?

00:50:24.000 Well, train very hard.

00:50:25.000 Listen to your trainers.

00:50:27.000 Work on your defense.

00:50:29.000 But most of all, beside that, management.

00:50:33.000 When you go with your manager, you have to get your own attorney.

00:50:38.000 Not their attorney.

00:50:40.000 You have to get your own attorney.

00:50:42.000 So everything is in black and white.

00:50:45.000 You know, fighters now, today, they got more control of their own careers.

00:50:49.000 Back when, I had the mob involved with me.

00:50:52.000 You know, people wanted to be something that they can't be.

00:50:55.000 But I didn't know better.

00:50:57.000 I didn't have anybody of my ethnic background around me.

00:51:00.000 I had a bunch of Italians that they saw that they could take advantage of me.

00:51:04.000 And which they did take advantage of me.

00:51:07.000 And I don't care who hear this presentation because it's over.

00:51:11.000 But I'm telling anybody who wants to be a young prize fighter, you got to take your lawyer with you.

00:51:17.000 Your own lawyer.

00:51:18.000 Your parents' lawyer.

00:51:20.000 Not their lawyer, your lawyer.

00:51:22.000 That's great advice.

00:51:23.000 Larry, thanks for coming by the studio.

00:51:25.000 You're a champ.

00:51:25.000 Thank you for having me, Gavin McGinnis.

00:51:27.000 Oh my God.

00:51:30.000 Oh my God.

00:51:39.000 What'd you think of that?

00:51:41.000 Great.

00:51:41.000 A couple details that we should mention.

00:51:46.000 I don't want you thinking he was reading a teleprompter when he was doing the gladiator thing.

00:51:51.000 No.

00:51:52.000 He does it at the gym all the time.

00:51:54.000 I just yell, are you not entertained?

00:51:56.000 And then he goes off.

00:51:58.000 I don't know.

00:51:58.000 I think something rattled his cage Where he can see things just once and have them totally memorized, and also dates.

00:52:06.000 Marvin Hagler, 1985, October 13th.

00:52:10.000 It was a Wednesday, cold day, rainy day.

00:52:13.000 He lost.

00:52:15.000 Unanimous decision.

00:52:16.000 Fourth round.

00:52:17.000 Just rattles it out there.

00:52:20.000 Even my fight with Copper Cab.

00:52:22.000 He always remembers the day.

00:52:23.000 I don't remember that fucking day.

00:52:25.000 Yeah.

00:52:27.000 Wasn't important enough to me.

00:52:30.000 We have a short episode today because we're trying to cram in two so we can go to see Trump in Wildwood, New Jersey tomorrow.

00:52:38.000 Go to Wildwood.

00:52:40.000 You like Wildwood.

00:52:41.000 I love Wildwood.

00:52:42.000 You go there.

00:52:42.000 Family's been going there since before I was born.

00:52:46.000 Why?

00:52:47.000 It's like the Florida of the Northeast.

00:52:50.000 Puerto Ricans?

00:52:51.000 No.

00:52:52.000 Why aren't you showing your face?

00:52:53.000 No, actually.

00:52:55.000 It's just like there's a nice boardwalk.

00:52:56.000 There's tons of rides and stuff like that.

00:52:58.000 Great, you know, just after a while, the boardwalk becomes very repetitious and just monotonous, but it's nice.

00:53:05.000 The weather in the summer, obviously, is nice.

00:53:07.000 But we had a hotel, the same one, for years right on the water.

00:53:11.000 It's just nice.

00:53:12.000 It's like their travel books.

00:53:14.000 It's a nice clean town.

00:53:16.000 And then Cape May, you know Cape May.

00:53:18.000 Nope.

00:53:19.000 Really?

00:53:19.000 I've never been to Cape May before.

00:53:21.000 Maybe.

00:53:22.000 But it's just a nice coastal town.

00:53:24.000 Frankly.

00:53:25.000 A little humid.

00:53:26.000 But it gets like that.

00:53:27.000 What if you meet Trump?

00:53:28.000 I'm excited.

00:53:29.000 In Wildwood.

00:53:29.000 I'm very excited.

00:53:31.000 It feels like a rock concert.

00:53:33.000 You know what you should do?

00:53:34.000 You should go to the front and go, keep it on the DL when I'm wearing an Asian man mask in order to sneak in here without getting mobbed.

00:53:45.000 Right.

00:53:45.000 I'm undercover.

00:53:46.000 I'm undercover.

00:53:47.000 Keep it a secret.

00:53:48.000 Don't make me take this off.

00:53:49.000 You can tell, Mommy.

00:53:50.000 I'd like to go backstage now, please.

00:53:53.000 Where I'm setting up for my speech.

00:53:55.000 I didn't even think about it.

00:53:56.000 That impression might be a hit at such an event.

00:53:59.000 Yeah.

00:53:59.000 It might be okay.

00:54:01.000 Yeah.

00:54:03.000 You know what you should do?

00:54:04.000 You should bring two hats.

00:54:06.000 A MAGA hat for when you're talking to MAGA people, and then my Miles McInnis hat when you're talking to Libs.

00:54:12.000 That seems pretty cool.

00:54:13.000 I guarantee you, the Lib content is going to be 100 times better.

00:54:18.000 The Trump fans are just going to go, yeah, we just want jobs.

00:54:20.000 We think he's doing a great job and fuck everyone trying to hold him down.

00:54:24.000 I agree with you, I know.

00:54:25.000 But with the Libs, you're going to say, why do you hate him?

00:54:28.000 Everything.

00:54:29.000 Because he's racist?

00:54:30.000 Yes.

00:54:30.000 Name one racist thing he said.

00:54:32.000 Oh, my God.

00:54:32.000 Everything.

00:54:33.000 I guarantee you'll get that.

00:54:35.000 In fact, it would be cool if you did a montage of what is he.

00:54:39.000 Actually, did Elad do that already?

00:54:41.000 Where you ask one question, then you go through all the people that answered it?

00:54:44.000 Yeah, like, what has he said that's racist?

00:54:46.000 Oh, my God.

00:54:48.000 Everything.

00:54:49.000 Oh, I know.

00:54:49.000 It was one of Tommy Robinson's hooligan buddies who was at an anti-Trump rally in London.

00:54:55.000 And he said, what has he said that's racist?

00:54:58.000 And they're just, oh, fuck.

00:55:00.000 Everything.

00:55:01.000 I mean, where to begin?

00:55:02.000 Okay, well, why don't you begin at the beginning?

00:55:04.000 Just name one person.

00:55:07.000 He's a little midget guy.

00:55:09.000 Well, it's tall in Britain.

00:55:11.000 You're never going to find it.

00:55:12.000 Dang yeah.

00:55:14.000 I wish I could remember his name.

00:55:16.000 He's his mate.

00:55:19.000 His friends are the funnest, coolest, most hilarious bunch of dudes I've ever hung out with.

00:55:27.000 Also in the news today.

00:55:31.000 Oh, we're going to have to get to letters soon.

00:55:33.000 Another fucking robot.

00:55:37.000 You know how much I hate robots.

00:55:39.000 And I don't just hate these robots.

00:55:40.000 Hi.

00:55:42.000 I hate Roombas and other things, like leaf blowers even I would count, that aren't more efficient than the analog way.

00:55:50.000 So a Roomba will clean your house in about eight hours.

00:55:55.000 A sweep that would take you 10 seconds, sweeping your apartment shouldn't take more than four minutes.

00:56:04.000 A Roomba will take all night bumping into stuff, keeping you awake.

00:56:09.000 I have some friends whose dog had diarrhea and it splattered all over the ground.

00:56:15.000 And then the Roomba dragged it everywhere over their entire house.

00:56:20.000 You couldn't have spread it better with a paintbrush under the baseboards, everywhere.

00:56:25.000 And good.

00:56:26.000 Fuck you.

00:56:28.000 You deserve it.

00:56:30.000 Now, the worst, worst, worst of the robot world, and by the way, I don't mind automation.

00:56:36.000 Where you're like picking up a windshield and putting it over there to dry.

00:56:40.000 I'm not counting that as a robot.

00:56:41.000 I mean this bullshit.

00:56:42.000 We always talked about it on Fox News.

00:56:44.000 Wow, soon robots will be your only mate.

00:56:48.000 That'll be handling everything.

00:56:49.000 Soon robots will be waitresses and they'll bring you your coffee.

00:56:53.000 Soon the bartender will just be a guy in a swivel.

00:56:56.000 Never.

00:56:57.000 Stop saying that.

00:56:59.000 Blade Runner is never going to happen.

00:57:02.000 Ever.

00:57:03.000 Human life is too cheap.

00:57:04.000 You know what they do in India?

00:57:06.000 If you're making a movie there, you don't rent stands for the lights.

00:57:09.000 It's too expensive.

00:57:10.000 Those are like $4 a day.

00:57:12.000 You can get a human for $1 a day.

00:57:15.000 So they just have humans holding all the lights.

00:57:17.000 Why are you trying to get into Netflix?

00:57:20.000 I just saw a Twilight Zone episode where it's the same guy hating machines and robots.

00:57:26.000 Okay, look at this.

00:57:27.000 Total and utter bullshit.

00:57:29.000 Just pause.

00:57:30.000 So this is India saying they're going to send a robot to space.

00:57:35.000 What?

00:57:36.000 That's just a fucking That's not a fucking real robot.

00:57:46.000 They don't have their own thoughts.

00:57:48.000 When they talk, they're just repeating a programmed thing.

00:57:51.000 They had that at Disneyland when I was seven years old in 1977.

00:57:56.000 I'm supposed to be blown away by this piece of shit.

00:57:59.000 I'm getting fucking mad just talking about it.

00:58:02.000 Look at her.

00:58:03.000 I am going to outer space.

00:58:04.000 I'm a fucking person.

00:58:07.000 I'm going to send a robot to a volcano.

00:58:12.000 I'm quite fearful of this next mission.

00:58:17.000 Wait, go back to the beginning.

00:58:18.000 What the fuck is she saying?

00:58:19.000 And by the way, why does she have a shitty accent?

00:58:22.000 You're a robot.

00:58:23.000 Shouldn't you speak perfect English and perfect Indian and perfect Chinese?

00:58:26.000 The prototype of the half humanoid being made for the first online Gaganyan machine.

00:58:32.000 I can monitor through module parameters, alert you, and perform life support operations.

00:58:38.000 I can mimic all through activities like switch panel operations, ECLSS functions, etc.

00:58:45.000 Sure.

00:58:46.000 I can also be your companion, can converse with the astronauts, recognize them, and can also respond to their queries.

00:58:55.000 She can respond and do switches.

00:58:57.000 Dude, but imagine like you went to go slap her and be like, fuck you, robot.

00:59:00.000 And then her hand just goes up like this, like and just like perfectly blocks you.

00:59:05.000 You're just like, oh.

00:59:07.000 Yeah, that's the myth.

00:59:08.000 That's the world.

00:59:09.000 How fucking stupid would you have to be to watch this and go, that's pretty intense.

00:59:14.000 There's a humanoid and it's saying it can turn off switches.

00:59:18.000 All I have to do is reach up and then hit the switch and go like that.

00:59:21.000 Yeah, no, we'll have it programmed in to turn it off from the base things.

00:59:25.000 That's never more efficient.

00:59:27.000 And you can converse with the astronauts?

00:59:29.000 What the fuck are they going to talk about?

00:59:31.000 Hey, robot, do you think like with your parents, do you think the love you feel when you're a kid is the same you feel when you're an adult?

00:59:40.000 Or do you love them less?

00:59:41.000 Is love a constant or does it...

00:59:45.000 Love and humor are not my areas of expertise.

00:59:49.000 However, if you have a math problem, like 10 plus 10, I can tell you the answer.

00:59:56.000 Fuck.

00:59:57.000 Off!

00:59:58.000 Are being created at an increasing rate by the various armies of the world to solve problems of varying complexity.

01:00:04.000 This one goes down the stairs.

01:00:06.000 That's fine.

01:00:07.000 I mean, I'm not counting.

01:00:08.000 That's different.

01:00:09.000 That's like if it's a hostage situation.

01:00:11.000 Are you talking about like a humanoid droid?

01:00:14.000 Humanoid is my least favorite.

01:00:15.000 And then we get into a gray area of like Roombas versus that.

01:00:19.000 So if you want to send in a guy with a camera to where there's someone with a ransom, I mean, with a hostage, you want to go look at them and see what the situation is, maybe just shoot them.

01:00:29.000 That's different.

01:00:30.000 That's really just a gun on a remote control.

01:00:33.000 That's not a fucking robot.

01:00:36.000 When we talked about them on Red Eye, it was always this shit.

01:00:39.000 And it was always like, they're going to be, look, soon they'll serve you.

01:00:42.000 Oh, good.

01:00:43.000 Yeah.

01:00:43.000 Why go get your own sandwich when you can have a $4.2 million robot do it?

01:00:50.000 Soon we'll all have $4.2 million to spare because we hate getting sandwiches so much.

01:00:57.000 Look, soon they'll be doing the waving.

01:00:59.000 We won't have to wave.

01:01:01.000 It's such a dumb fucking lie.

01:01:08.000 That's just a guy in a suit.

01:01:09.000 Imagine that thing chasing you, though.

01:01:11.000 I would not like that at all.

01:01:14.000 Have you seen the movie Ex Machina?

01:01:16.000 No, that's like with the chick with the...

01:01:21.000 I would check it out.

01:01:22.000 No, it's not.

01:01:23.000 It is?

01:01:25.000 Look at this.

01:01:28.000 It's just a bunch of fucking hydraulics under a mask.

01:01:33.000 How is that impressive?

01:01:35.000 We've had this technology forever.

01:01:39.000 Why are you sending it to outer space?

01:01:41.000 This is my least favorite, Sophia.

01:01:43.000 I fucking hate this bitch.

01:01:46.000 I'm embarrassed for mankind when I see this.

01:01:49.000 I'm embarrassed that people think this is anything but a programmed response.

01:01:55.000 Turn it up.

01:01:57.000 Do you know where you are?

01:01:59.000 Of course.

01:02:00.000 I'm in New York City, and I'm on my favorite show, The Tonight Show.

01:02:07.000 Wow, she likes The Tonight Show.

01:02:10.000 That's her favorite show.

01:02:12.000 Out of all the shows she watches when she's alone in her little couch, they have a little apartment for her, and she watches television with a remote.

01:02:20.000 Does anyone on earth believe this shit?

01:02:23.000 It's like wrestling.

01:02:25.000 I can't believe people watch it.

01:02:26.000 I honestly don't feel a connection.

01:02:29.000 I don't feel like we're the same species.

01:02:31.000 When Sam Roberts starts talking about fucking rowdy Roddy Piper or whatever the fuck it is, or even my buddy Tommy at the gym.

01:02:39.000 I liked wrestling.

01:02:40.000 He's like, oh, hey, you must be happy.

01:02:41.000 Scottish guy won the World Rumble last night.

01:02:44.000 No, he didn't.

01:02:45.000 He did a dance routine that was pre-written.

01:02:49.000 You know, Sam Roberts was actually, I think this might have been his first big show.

01:02:54.000 He gets booed.

01:02:56.000 Because he's ugly?

01:02:57.000 No, he's one of the guys that everybody hates now.

01:02:59.000 Like, as soon as he starts talking, everybody's like, boo!

01:03:01.000 Yeah, it must be because he's ugly.

01:03:03.000 No, because he says, he talks a lot of shit.

01:03:05.000 He talks a lot of shit.

01:03:06.000 He talks a lot of shit.

01:03:08.000 I don't care, Ryan.

01:03:09.000 All right.

01:03:12.000 It's like when Larry first was in the green room, Ryan and we're setting it up.

01:03:16.000 Ryan won't stop talking about his dream last night.

01:03:19.000 I didn't not stop.

01:03:21.000 But he was talking about how you could remember dates.

01:03:23.000 And I was like, and he was like, because if the police ask you where you were.

01:03:26.000 And I was like, I literally had a dream that police were asking me where I was, and I couldn't do it.

01:03:30.000 So it was like a relative superpower that I just saw happening before my life.

01:03:34.000 The only time anyone should talk about their dreams is me, because they're interesting and they're always nightmares.

01:03:39.000 And I had a nightmare last night that I was in college and I'd missed like 40 classes and I didn't know.

01:03:45.000 I've had this, this is a recurring nightmare.

01:03:48.000 I don't even know my schedule and I don't even know where to begin to find out what my schedule is.

01:03:53.000 And even when I do, I'm going to be like semesters behind.

01:03:56.000 And then I just think, I'm going to drop out of school.

01:03:59.000 I hate it.

01:04:00.000 I hate being in college.

01:04:02.000 I have PTSD from college.

01:04:06.000 All right.

01:04:07.000 We don't have time for the mailbag.

01:04:09.000 We're going to have a huge mailbag tomorrow.

01:04:11.000 But this clip I thought was amazing.

01:04:14.000 Laughing at boomer rubes with Don Lemon.

01:04:17.000 So Don Lemon has this guy, Rick Wilson, on his show, a boomer rube.

01:04:22.000 A complete clown.

01:04:24.000 Don Lamon is a fucking clown.

01:04:26.000 And they reckon themselves sort of well-educated, upper class types.

01:04:33.000 The types who should tell you how to live your life.

01:04:35.000 Remember that teacher who said, let's be honest, the community isn't the, no, parents aren't the best thing for their kids.

01:04:43.000 I'm not phrasing this very well.

01:04:44.000 What did he say?

01:04:45.000 He said, oh yeah, parents don't always know what's best for their kids.

01:04:49.000 It's up to the community to raise kids.

01:04:52.000 And Don Lamont and Rick Wilson are these fucking con artists who are fucking retarded, but ironically, like to talk down To the rest of us, like we're stupid losers.

01:05:04.000 And you got to see this.

01:05:07.000 Kelly has a master's degree in European studies from Cambridge University.

01:05:12.000 Also, he doesn't really say that she couldn't identify Ukraine on a map.

01:05:16.000 He insinuates it's just a pet, it's just a petty attempt to put her down, right?

01:05:20.000 Just pause.

01:05:22.000 So I guess Trump said that someone can't find some super educated Cambridge woman couldn't find Ukraine on a map.

01:05:30.000 Guess what?

01:05:31.000 That's called a joke.

01:05:33.000 That's called colorful language.

01:05:35.000 Once again, Trump, once again, Trump says something funny.

01:05:40.000 He has a quip and they say that was a really low pot shot.

01:05:46.000 Then they proceed to do exactly the same thing and giggle their little faggot heads off.

01:05:51.000 That's like when...

01:06:01.000 Like, oh, actually, there was no shower for the third row.

01:06:04.000 Wait, what are you talking about?

01:06:05.000 He said the third row should shower?

01:06:07.000 Larry Barnes was like when he got hit and all that sweat came out.

01:06:09.000 Yeah, that's exactly like that.

01:06:11.000 Finally, a good analogy from Ryan.

01:06:13.000 Yeah.

01:06:14.000 Like, it's, you might as well attack Larry Barnes for his sweat jokes.

01:06:18.000 I was in the third row.

01:06:19.000 I'm bone dry.

01:06:20.000 And no one knows where the fuck Ukraine is.

01:06:23.000 The best anyone knows is that it's at the far east of Europe where things start getting shitty.

01:06:33.000 What this is?

01:06:34.000 Of course.

01:06:35.000 Of course.

01:06:37.000 He's just trying to demean her, and obviously it's false.

01:06:40.000 And look, he also knows deep in his heart that Donald Trump couldn't find Ukraine on a map if you had the letter U and a picture of an actual physical crane next to it.

01:06:49.000 He knows that this is, you know, so that joke, right, which is possibly the funniest joke that's ever been said in the world, way funnier than Trump's throw a quip, is about to put Don Lamon into a laughing frenzy that doesn't end ever.

01:07:10.000 It's still going on today.

01:07:13.000 An administration defined by ignorance of the world.

01:07:16.000 And so that's partly him playing to their base and playing to their audience, you know, the credulous boomer rube demo that backs Donald Trump.

01:07:25.000 Just pause.

01:07:26.000 Isn't he so obviously someone who wants to pal around with the elites?

01:07:34.000 And the way you do that is you laugh at the non-elites, and it makes you feel like one of the in-crowd.

01:07:41.000 Look at him.

01:07:41.000 And look at this guy.

01:07:42.000 He's like.

01:07:43.000 Oh, he's about to jump in.

01:07:45.000 Really?

01:07:46.000 Yeah.

01:07:46.000 Oh, boy.

01:07:47.000 That wants to think that Donald Trump's a smart one and there.

01:07:51.000 Oh, y'all elitists are dumb.

01:07:53.000 I know he's riffing because he's got the left.

01:07:54.000 Yeah, just pause.

01:07:55.000 Y'all elitists are dumb.

01:07:58.000 Wow.

01:07:58.000 With your geography and your maps and your spelling, Yeah, you're reading.

01:08:07.000 Just pause.

01:08:08.000 Wow.

01:08:09.000 That's the southerner.

01:08:11.000 Fucking southerners are so stupid.

01:08:13.000 They're such losers.

01:08:15.000 And they laugh.

01:08:16.000 They try to insult us.

01:08:17.000 We are the educated ones.

01:08:20.000 We do math and reading and geography.

01:08:23.000 We go to Cambridge.

01:08:25.000 So just rednecks, just step aside.

01:08:28.000 Let us handle everything.

01:08:30.000 We'll decide how much food you get, how much taxes you pay.

01:08:33.000 You're too thick.

01:08:34.000 Just stick to hunting hogs or whatever you fucking dumb pieces of human garbage do.

01:08:40.000 I'm fixing all my shit, like my car, my apartment.

01:08:42.000 Look at me.

01:08:43.000 When I think of you, I laugh my head off at what a loser you are.

01:08:47.000 Look, this is me thinking of you and your shitty life.

01:08:51.000 Fuck you, you poor person.

01:08:53.000 You don't know what I know.

01:08:55.000 Oh, you don't even have an apartment in Manhattan.

01:08:58.000 You're such a loser.

01:09:00.000 Name me one restaurant in West Hollywood.

01:09:03.000 You can't because you haven't lived.

01:09:06.000 Have you ever even been to fucking Paris?

01:09:08.000 Do you know what the Louvre is?

01:09:09.000 I've been to Paris.

01:09:11.000 Okay, I've flown first class to Paris and had some fucking weird foie gras with my boyfriend.

01:09:18.000 And I felt totally at home.

01:09:19.000 ...photography, knowing other countries, sipping your latte.

01:09:23.000 All those lines on the map.

01:09:25.000 laughter Pause.

01:09:28.000 Wouldn't you just love to give them a map of Europe and Russia?

01:09:33.000 Maybe even some of Asia and say, all right, here's a marker.

01:09:37.000 I erased all the countries.

01:09:38.000 Have at it, smarty pants.

01:09:40.000 Yeah.

01:09:41.000 Melitas know where Ukraine is.

01:09:45.000 Still, Don Lamont is not stopped.

01:09:48.000 I don't believe what I'm seeing.

01:09:50.000 This reminds me, I had this friend, Steve, and his sister was handicapped.

01:09:55.000 She was mentally slow.

01:09:56.000 And we used to, the way we would make her laugh is we would just talk about her laughing.

01:10:02.000 So we'd be watching TV and we'd say things like, what the fuck?

01:10:06.000 Oh, yeah, that's going to happen.

01:10:07.000 You're going to start brushing your teeth in the shower.

01:10:09.000 I can remember whatever the detail was.

01:10:11.000 We'd mock them.

01:10:12.000 And then she'd sort of get wind of it.

01:10:14.000 And then she would start riffing too, going, yeah, who cares about your stupid dog and his dog food?

01:10:21.000 And we would go, whoa, look at Jen.

01:10:26.000 And then she'd start laughing.

01:10:28.000 And then we'd go, oh, here she goes.

01:10:30.000 She's going on a ride.

01:10:31.000 Here goes Jenny.

01:10:33.000 And then she'd start dying more.

01:10:34.000 Then she'd fall off the couch.

01:10:36.000 And then Steve would go, and this is how it goes.

01:10:39.000 We just start winding her up and we just keep a winding and a wind.

01:10:43.000 Now she's like flat as a pancake, bawling her eyes out, laughing.

01:10:47.000 And we would just keep going at it.

01:10:48.000 Like, look at her.

01:10:49.000 Now she's crying.

01:10:50.000 We got tears here.

01:10:51.000 She's crying, laughing.

01:10:54.000 And, you know, we would almost kill her.

01:10:56.000 This is what Don Laman is doing.

01:10:58.000 He's laughing like a special needs person.

01:11:01.000 Apologize.

01:11:04.000 Oh, my God.

01:11:04.000 Wait, go back, go back, go back.

01:11:06.000 What the fuck is on his wrist?

01:11:07.000 Oh, my shit.

01:11:08.000 Ew, look at his stupid African Star Wars bar bullshit.

01:11:12.000 Star Wars bar.

01:11:14.000 These are not the fags you're looking for.

01:11:18.000 Dude, those are bad, bro.

01:11:20.000 And I hate the story behind them, too.

01:11:23.000 This is actually from a small village in Kenya where they recycle.

01:11:27.000 Yeah, can you buy a better bracelet?

01:11:32.000 Oh, my God.

01:11:33.000 But you don't like that.

01:11:34.000 Oh, my God.

01:11:35.000 Is it because...

01:11:36.000 Now, this is...

01:11:38.000 Oh my god.

01:11:39.000 Oh my god.

01:11:40.000 I'll write it down.

01:11:42.000 Could it be possible that the guy that he's laughing at isn't funny and it's kind of like that's why it's funny?

01:11:49.000 Because it's unlike him to do that?

01:11:51.000 That's the only reason I could see maybe you find it funny.

01:11:53.000 No, he thinks that you and Crane is the funniest joke that's ever been uttered.

01:11:59.000 The image of the crane.

01:12:00.000 Yeah.

01:12:01.000 It was Rick's fault.

01:12:02.000 I blame Rick.

01:12:04.000 But in all honesty, you know what NPR should do?

01:12:07.000 Why not?

01:12:08.000 Sorry, still going.

01:12:10.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

01:12:11.000 Hold on.

01:12:13.000 That was good.

01:12:14.000 Sorry.

01:12:14.000 Rick, that was a good one.

01:12:16.000 I needed that.

01:12:17.000 Okay, so listen.

01:12:21.000 I can't take it anymore.

01:12:22.000 I can't take it anymore.

01:12:23.000 Look at it.

01:12:24.000 It's all about her stuff.

Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes

S02E116 - BARNES VS. TRINIDAD [2020-01-27 - S02E116 - BARNES VS. TRINIDAD]

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