Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes - November 06, 2019


S02E82 - IN DC WITH MILO (STONE TRIAL PT 1)


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Finn accidentally got on the wrong train, Gavin accidentally missed his train, and the rest is downhill from there. Plus, a story about a 17-year-old boy who saved money to buy drugs for his friend, and a conspiracy theory about Roger Stone.

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00:00:08.000 Live from New York, it's Get Off My Lawn with Gavin McInnes.
00:00:15.000 Music Recording is just doing anything The Paul Matson wines are brewed in the finest excellence brewed with the finest champagne.
00:00:38.000 Oh wait, I have the wrong glasses on.
00:00:40.000 That's Orson Welles drunk at a Paul Matson commercial.
00:00:44.000 No, I didn't know that.
00:00:45.000 Oh, it's incredibly funny.
00:00:48.000 You sent me an email.
00:00:50.000 You missed your train.
00:00:52.000 This is your one.
00:00:53.000 Oh, no, no, no, that's not quite true.
00:00:55.000 Okay, let's hear your take.
00:00:57.000 Well, it is Finn.
00:01:00.000 I have no different directions.
00:01:03.000 I caught a different train in the right direction.
00:01:05.000 Actually, I...
00:01:07.000 It's...
00:01:09.000 It's true to say I upgraded myself, because though I did accidentally get on the XLR train, it was the speedy train.
00:01:19.000 But then how were you not...
00:01:22.000 I guess you were ahead of us, right?
00:01:23.000 Yeah, I've never been to a train station on my own before.
00:01:29.000 So I guess it is arguable that you went faster than this because you had to wait in Philadelphia, right?
00:01:35.000 No, I was ahead of you on the fast train, except your train and the fast train go at the same speed until Philadelphia, and then the other one goes whoosh.
00:01:42.000 And then it rocks.
00:01:44.000 So you got on a fast train on the slow train.
00:01:46.000 Well, I got on the fast train in order to meet you on the slow train, but I got on the fast train by mistake, upgraded myself.
00:01:51.000 The reason is I've never been to a train station on my own before, and I panicked.
00:01:54.000 And so I did what I always do in situations where I need help, is I immediately bought drugs from the nearest person I could find.
00:02:02.000 And as a 17-year-old.
00:02:03.000 And 17-year-old Winston, Percocet.
00:02:05.000 Because that's all he had.
00:02:06.000 He showed me a bag of candy.
00:02:08.000 No, no, no.
00:02:08.000 It's in like a candy baggie.
00:02:11.000 His name is Winston.
00:02:12.000 He was 17.
00:02:12.000 So he's saving money for his friend.
00:02:13.000 He's a serviette in a ring pack.
00:02:17.000 Well, I don't know what it is.
00:02:18.000 I haven't opened it.
00:02:19.000 There might be nothing in there.
00:02:20.000 It just looks like a tangled up snot rag in a piece of plastic.
00:02:24.000 No, look.
00:02:27.000 Oh, no, it's this stony patch.
00:02:28.000 That's some kind of joke.
00:02:30.000 I think he may possibly have been ripped off.
00:02:33.000 I mean, probably.
00:02:34.000 It's probably just a tissue.
00:02:36.000 Oh, no.
00:02:37.000 Oh, look.
00:02:38.000 Oh, there's a mixture.
00:02:40.000 This is like, look at this.
00:02:42.000 This is like in PSAs where they go, don't buy drugs.
00:02:46.000 I don't know what it is.
00:02:48.000 You're going to have to Google every single one of these.
00:02:50.000 You can look them up.
00:02:51.000 No, you can look them up.
00:02:52.000 You can look at the numbers.
00:02:53.000 You can Google.
00:02:55.000 You can Google them.
00:02:56.000 Anyway, I was so panicky and confused that I just wanted to get a drink.
00:02:59.000 How much was that?
00:03:00.000 $200.
00:03:01.000 A bag of drugs is $200.
00:03:04.000 I don't know what it is.
00:03:04.000 I said, just give me a bag of bags.
00:03:06.000 I said, just give me $200 worth of whatever you have.
00:03:09.000 Now, will you please help me find the right train?
00:03:12.000 And he's like, I would have done that anyway, but I just wanted to be sure I'd get the help.
00:03:17.000 So you didn't.
00:03:18.000 You got on the wrong train.
00:03:20.000 As it turned out, Winston put me on the wrong train.
00:03:23.000 So not only did I upgrade myself in terms of trains, but I also spent quite a lot on advice.
00:03:30.000 All right.
00:03:32.000 You sent me an email right when we started this trip, and you said, here's the latest on Roger.
00:03:38.000 Yes.
00:03:39.000 Here's what I know.
00:03:40.000 To quote Jada Pickett Smith.
00:03:42.000 Here's what I do know.
00:03:43.000 Remember?
00:03:44.000 Her next word is nothing.
00:03:45.000 In the Oscars of So White thing? 0.74
00:03:47.000 Here's what I do know.
00:03:48.000 Here's what I do know.
00:03:50.000 My husband's gay.
00:03:52.000 He was under oath.
00:03:53.000 They interrogated him.
00:03:54.000 They said, have you ever had an email from Julian Assange?
00:03:57.000 He said, no, under oath.
00:04:00.000 And then they found out, oh, you had some innocuous email like you and I would exchange.
00:04:03.000 Whereas, did I leave my fucking glasses with you?
00:04:06.000 Yeah, I don't know if it was directly with him, but it was.
00:04:09.000 So there was some irrelevant email that had no evidence of collusion, no email in it.
00:04:13.000 So he actually missed it.
00:04:15.000 He accidentally either misspoke or did not find that email at the time he gave it to him.
00:04:21.000 He possibly lied.
00:04:23.000 Let's take the worst case thing.
00:04:24.000 Roger Stone?
00:04:25.000 Let's take the worst case thing.
00:04:26.000 Roger Stone.
00:04:27.000 He lied.
00:04:28.000 He said, I got an email, and then he thought, fuck it, I'm not going to say I got an email.
00:04:33.000 God forbid.
00:04:34.000 There are people who have been found to have demonstrably lied to Congress, including James Comey and Flapper and all the rest of it, all walking free and no prospect of prosecution or anything like that.
00:04:45.000 Dozens of people throughout history.
00:04:48.000 Yeah, mostly Democrat.
00:04:49.000 The point about this is he's the big fish in a series of retaliatory prosecutions that the state is bringing because Justice Walmart is bringing the aftermath, Mueller, whatever, is bringing because they couldn't get Trump or anything because Trump didn't do anything wrong.
00:05:08.000 Trump is too much of a blithering idiot to have colluded in anything.
00:05:13.000 Clearly his staff have been saving him from himself over and over and over and over again in the White House.
00:05:17.000 And that's all the Mueller report showed.
00:05:19.000 It's Trump just being saved from blunders by his staff.
00:05:22.000 Which, by the way, is their job.
00:05:24.000 Because when you get elected as president, how can you possibly be expected to know all the stuff you're not supposed to do?
00:05:28.000 But it could also be Trump being astute and saying, you know what, I'm a bit of a shit show.
00:05:33.000 So I'm going to say yes and smile.
00:05:36.000 That's actually the way I've always done business.
00:05:38.000 Every time I meet someone who wants to merge a company or do something like, remember when they wanted to buy Vice UK?
00:05:44.000 When a group in Britain wanted to create Vice UK?
00:05:47.000 I'd say, can we, and I said, yes, let's do it.
00:05:49.000 You seem nice, blah, blah, blah.
00:05:51.000 And then I allotted it to the contract makers.
00:05:57.000 Yes.
00:05:57.000 So my co-founder said, you just said yes to Vice UK.
00:06:02.000 And I said, yeah.
00:06:03.000 But I didn't sign anything.
00:06:04.000 I just said, yeah, let's send it to the paperwork guys.
00:06:07.000 So if you're running for president and someone goes, I have tons of shit on Hillary, emails, she was polluting, you go, okay, sounds good. 0.56
00:06:15.000 Well, that's send it to my guys.
00:06:17.000 That's a different issue, but it is without question that if you were to offer that to anybody running for president about their opponent, of course they'd say, here's the thing though.
00:06:25.000 What you do not do is have your dip shit thick as A box of brick sun, meet the person in question in your own office building.
00:06:36.000 What you do is you send a lawyer to a travel lodge somewhere in Jersey, uh, see what the guys have got, and if it's nothing, that's valid, no harm done.
00:06:44.000 Here's the point, though: Roger is so many beers, you bought like 50 beers.
00:06:48.000 No, I bought, I bought six beers, they're tiny, they're some gay thing I've never heard of. 1.00
00:06:53.000 Micheloube Ultra.
00:06:55.000 Micheloube.
00:06:56.000 Wonderful beer.
00:06:56.000 You said Micheloube.
00:06:58.000 I said Micheloube at the bar and she laughed at me.
00:07:02.000 May I have six Micheloub?
00:07:04.000 Micheloube.
00:07:04.000 Micheloube.
00:07:06.000 That might be the origin of it.
00:07:07.000 I wouldn't be surprised if that's the original title.
00:07:10.000 Well, where is it from?
00:07:11.000 Is it Belgian?
00:07:12.000 They were bought by the French in 1836.
00:07:15.000 No, don't make things up.
00:07:17.000 So, let's not talk about Micheloube.
00:07:21.000 2.6 carbs.
00:07:22.000 I didn't realize carbs was in there.
00:07:24.000 It's got 11 cobs.
00:07:26.000 I don't even know what carbs are.
00:07:29.000 How about that email you sent me?
00:07:31.000 I'm too lazy to read.
00:07:32.000 That's fine.
00:07:32.000 I figured.
00:07:36.000 What has happened to Roger is that they have assembled what are called process crimes, allegedly lying to Congress, allegedly witness tampering, allegedly this, that, and the other.
00:07:49.000 All this stuff is kind of trumped up, excuse the expression.
00:07:54.000 A set of trumped up allegations that have nothing to do with collusion, nothing to do with hacking.
00:07:59.000 They won't even allow his lawyers to raise the question of whether the DNC was in fact hacked, even though the FBI trusted a report from a firm used by the DNC who, and the FBI never examined the DNC servers in the first place.
00:08:11.000 Directly.
00:08:12.000 Right, they hired a firm who merely sent a summary to the FBI saying, oh yes, we believe they were hacked by Russia.
00:08:19.000 The FBI had no direct access to or detailed information about these servers.
00:08:24.000 They merely trusted the top-line summary of a firm regularly paid by the state.
00:08:28.000 The state defined that.
00:08:30.000 Yes.
00:08:30.000 And so Roger's lawyers cannot go into that.
00:08:33.000 They can't go into wrongdoing at the DOJ.
00:08:37.000 They can't go into wrongdoing by members of Congress, even though members of Congress have broken rules and broken confidentiality about evidence that Roger gave in closed confidential committees.
00:08:50.000 People have gone out and said, Roger told us this and he's about to get charged with all the rest of it.
00:08:54.000 People like Schiff and whatever have broken congressional rules to try to gin up the case for prosecution.
00:09:05.000 He's being charged by an Obama-appointed judge who has basically said yes to everything the government wants and no to everything his lawyers want.
00:09:12.000 And he's being charged with these petty, pointless process crimes in Washington, D.C. Now, Washington, D.C. residents are 90% self-reported Democrats and 5% self-reported Republicans, of which precisely zero are Trump supporters.
00:09:27.000 So he's basically being tried in the most mind-bogglingly hostile environment, judge and jury imaginable, for crime.
00:09:38.000 New York might be worse, but yeah.
00:09:40.000 No, I don't think so.
00:09:41.000 New York has got Republicans in it.
00:09:43.000 I thought 1% of Manhattanites voted for Trump.
00:09:47.000 5% of D.C.ites voted for Trump.
00:09:51.000 No, I don't believe that for a second.
00:09:52.000 5% of people in D.C. describe themselves as Republican, but they're not Trump Republicans.
00:09:58.000 They're Washington Republicans.
00:10:00.000 All right.
00:10:00.000 I don't think any of them.
00:10:02.000 No, I don't think any of them.
00:10:04.000 I think I see more than 5% of D.C. people represent, identify as Republican.
00:10:09.000 No, it's not true.
00:10:10.000 It's not true.
00:10:11.000 In District of Columbia, 90% of the voters are Democrats.
00:10:17.000 5% Republican.
00:10:19.000 It's not a good talk show when the hosts are questioning each other's information.
00:10:23.000 Well, if you'd read the email, you would have been able to follow the links which justify all of the...
00:10:32.000 Instead, we're arguing over points of facts because you haven't read an email that you want to discuss with me.
00:10:37.000 So you're at a discussion.
00:10:40.000 Unless you're wrong.
00:10:41.000 Well, I'm happy to see it.
00:10:45.000 How many people in D.C. identify?
00:10:52.000 I'm younger.
00:10:54.000 can get there.
00:10:59.000 Party affiliation among adults in the Washington, D.C. metro area.
00:11:04.000 You better hope this is 5%.
00:11:06.000 I can get Viola to stop Googling right now. 0.60
00:11:08.000 That's giving you an unsavory light on your face.
00:11:10.000 Is it overexposing your skin tones?
00:11:15.000 Thanks.
00:11:16.000 Thanks.
00:11:17.000 Did you go with the brightness?
00:11:19.000 Yes.
00:11:21.000 With the most deft and immediate flick of a thumb, I went because I've been in this situation before.
00:11:30.000 Okay, here we go.
00:11:32.000 DC residents who voted 90% Ah, excuse me.
00:11:35.000 All right.
00:11:36.000 Party affiliation amongst the family.
00:11:37.000 So let me clarify my earlier statement.
00:11:38.000 28%.
00:11:40.000 16% Nolan.
00:11:42.000 56% Democrat.
00:11:44.000 Let me clarify my earlier statement.
00:11:46.000 In fact, the 90% was not registered Democrats.
00:11:49.000 The 90% was people who voted for Hillary Clinton.
00:11:53.000 Which is worse.
00:11:54.000 Let me school you.
00:11:54.000 Which is worse.
00:11:56.000 4% of people in D.C., 4-5, 4-5%, voted for Trump.
00:12:05.000 You are right about that.
00:12:06.000 28% of people in D.C. identify as Republicans.
00:12:10.000 Okay, but here's the thing.
00:12:13.000 Just a few points off, 91% of people voted for Hillary. 1.00
00:12:17.000 Meaning that of your 25% of Republicans, right, or whatever you said, 20%, many of those people voted for Hillary.
00:12:25.000 Now, they will be the establishment Republican types who are even more hostile to Roger than Democrats are.
00:12:30.000 So actually, though I was initially wrong about the specific percentages.
00:12:38.000 I was wrong.
00:12:39.000 Well, no, no, no.
00:12:40.000 Winston was wrong about my train connection.
00:12:42.000 The drug dealer you met.
00:12:44.000 Yes.
00:12:45.000 Yes, yes.
00:12:46.000 But though.
00:12:48.000 He should be here.
00:12:50.000 Though I misremembered.
00:12:51.000 Wait, wait a minute.
00:12:51.000 Though I misremember what the 91 and the 4 refer to.
00:12:55.000 You gave that dude a bunch of fucking pills.
00:12:57.000 In fact, it turns out that it's even worse for Roger according to the new definition.
00:13:02.000 Because if, as must be the case, 91% of people voted for Hillary, meaning that lots of Republicans voted for Hillary in D.C., those Republicans, establishment Republicans, the national review types, will be even more hostile to Roger than Democrats.
00:13:18.000 I agree.
00:13:19.000 So it's actually even worse than I said.
00:13:22.000 Trump is draining the swamp, and they are the swamp.
00:13:25.000 So if you want to find a place where conservatives and Republicans hate...
00:13:32.000 I wasn't just right.
00:13:33.000 I was righter than I realized.
00:13:36.000 Okay, that's right there.
00:13:38.000 So what else was in your email that I did not read?
00:13:41.000 Well, you know what I would like to see?
00:13:45.000 The email that he denied seeing from Julian Assange.
00:13:49.000 Okay, so.
00:13:50.000 I bet you it was, did I leave your glasses at the bar where I brought them to?
00:13:56.000 Well, I understand we will be getting all of that when things are when the seal is lifted, which is when the trial starts, okay?
00:14:04.000 So most of the all the discovery stuff, everything's currently under seal.
00:14:08.000 And that's going to start to get lifted after the pre-trial conference.
00:14:11.000 You may or may not have told me it is a totally irrelevant, innocuous email.
00:14:16.000 Like, did you see the thrills?
00:14:18.000 Right, right, right, right.
00:14:19.000 We'll have access to that, I think, from Tuesday this week.
00:14:23.000 When the stuff starts to leak out, things are no longer under seal because it's an open trial or a statement.
00:14:29.000 So you'll start to see all that stuff coming out.
00:14:32.000 Can I make a prediction?
00:14:34.000 I hereby predict that the evidence will be scant.
00:14:39.000 You'll see the email.
00:14:40.000 It will read like, did you fart at Arby's last Thursday?
00:14:43.000 But that's not what he's been charged with.
00:14:45.000 That's not what he's been charged with because the judge has even banned any discussion of what the substance of the email might be, whether it relates to hacking collusion, whether hacking happened at the DLC, whether Russian collision happened.
00:14:59.000 His lawyers aren't allowed to ask about or discuss any of that stuff.
00:15:02.000 She's restricted it solely to the question of did you lie to Congress?
00:15:06.000 And that becomes an issue of, does the jury believe that you made an honest mistake?
00:15:11.000 Or does the jury believe that you are a dirty trickster?
00:15:14.000 46 years, I think four, my gut says, four feels good, six years feels good.
00:15:22.000 So a logical person would say five years.
00:15:26.000 Five doesn't really feel good.
00:15:28.000 It's four or six years.
00:15:30.000 He's getting.
00:15:31.000 That's my prediction.
00:15:32.000 What's yours?
00:15:32.000 A lot more than that.
00:15:34.000 14?
00:15:35.000 Closer to 14 than four.
00:15:38.000 He's going to die then.
00:15:39.000 Well, the big question, and this is the ultimate test of Trump's presidency, because this administration has acquired a reputation for throwing its biggest supporters to the wolves and ignoring the plight of its most effective advocates.
00:15:54.000 Not just this administration, the entire right are the biggest.
00:15:59.000 Yes, but we didn't expect Trump to be the worst of all of them.
00:16:01.000 and Trump is the worst of all of them.
00:16:03.000 He is worse than any Republican the president has ever come before as far as taking it all and then whatever. 0.50
00:16:09.000 Yes.
00:16:10.000 All these people, they take any kind of heat.
00:16:12.000 All true.
00:16:12.000 And one thing I will say about the left that I admire is they get attacked.
00:16:17.000 Someone says, oh, we saw your fucking one of the Daily Show contributors at this event.
00:16:22.000 And they go, yeah, fuck you.
00:16:24.000 And they laugh it off.
00:16:25.000 We don't.
00:16:26.000 We go, I'm so sorry.
00:16:27.000 All of that is true.
00:16:30.000 Granted, Trump has unfortunately been the very, very worst out of all of them ever.
00:16:36.000 And the big, for me, the litmus test of his administration, whether or not he deserves to be re-elected, is whether or not he pardons Roger and does it soon.
00:16:46.000 And by the way, he can do it proactively.
00:16:48.000 He can do it now.
00:16:49.000 He can do it today.
00:16:50.000 The trial will proceed, the verdict will come out, but Roger will spend a day in jail.
00:16:56.000 So I think that those of us who have supported the broad thrust of Trump's administration, we're pleased in general to help him get elected, and would like to see him get another term under some conditions and with some caveats.
00:17:14.000 Like a wall.
00:17:15.000 Indeed.
00:17:16.000 Like what he promised everybody.
00:17:18.000 You know, it's funny.
00:17:18.000 I think that the litmus test is, does he pardon Roger in the next two or three weeks?
00:17:23.000 De Blasio and Cormo are launching a massive campaign this next month to release people from prison early.
00:17:30.000 Murderers, drug dealers, heroin dealers.
00:17:33.000 What about people who defended themselves against violent attacks from John Kinsman, David Kyricos, Jeffrey Young, Tommy Trigger, all that six proud boys in jail for fights they did not start.
00:17:50.000 And Trump's totally ignoring them.
00:17:52.000 Well, their crime was not defending themselves.
00:17:58.000 Their crime was winning the fight.
00:18:00.000 Yeah.
00:18:02.000 Because if they had been wimpish and all the rest of it, they would simply have gotten laughed at by the press and ignored. 0.93
00:18:08.000 But because these leftists are starting fights with the wrong guys, and once they swing for you, that's it.
00:18:17.000 Fuck around and find out, whatever.
00:18:19.000 They've started fights with the wrong people who have fought back and won.
00:18:24.000 That's the real crime.
00:18:25.000 So what do we do tomorrow?
00:18:26.000 Do you know when we get up?
00:18:27.000 Do you know where we go?
00:18:30.000 It's in the federal building, I think.
00:18:32.000 I guess we just watched it.
00:18:33.000 I'm planning on finding out tomorrow.
00:18:36.000 Whatever time it's open, we should probably get there about two hours before because every journalist in the country is going to be trying to get to the top.
00:18:40.000 Right, well, you know which signs we have made?
00:18:42.000 We have a printing house that made these signs that said, David Shortel, Stakeout King.
00:18:47.000 And that will be our pitch.
00:18:48.000 That's good.
00:18:48.000 I like that.
00:18:49.000 I like that.
00:18:50.000 And I want people to ask us about David Shortel.
00:18:52.000 And I want to take a sketchbook.
00:18:54.000 Because, you know, you're not allowed to take pictures or recordings in court, but you can draw.
00:18:58.000 So I think we should sketch.
00:19:01.000 We should sketch.
00:19:02.000 So I'm going to have a column about some of the things in the email we discussed coming out tomorrow morning on the website at free speech.tv about this is Trump's big test.
00:19:11.000 Are you going to stick up for your supporters?
00:19:13.000 And you know, the thing about Roger, the real reason, by the way, that they're going after him, it's not because of what the real reason they're going after him like they are is that he refused to roll.
00:19:24.000 Unlike everybody else.
00:19:26.000 He refused to give evidence.
00:19:27.000 I mean, I still don't know how I feel about Bannon, Apparently, Steve.
00:19:32.000 I used to call Uncle Steve.
00:19:33.000 No, he's the enemy.
00:19:34.000 He's the key witness against.
00:19:36.000 I know.
00:19:37.000 And I used to snitch hunt.
00:19:40.000 Well, this is the guy.
00:19:41.000 This is the guy I used to call.
00:19:42.000 This is a snitch.
00:19:43.000 This is the guy I used to call Uncle Steve.
00:19:45.000 But everybody else has in some way flipped or snitched on.
00:19:50.000 I'm worried about Raju Kassan.
00:19:51.000 When I see Raheem, I go, dude, you're in bed with the enemy.
00:19:56.000 Bannon and Epstein are the same.
00:19:59.000 They're on the dark side.
00:20:02.000 Hope you got money for lawyers after that one.
00:20:06.000 Lock me up.
00:20:09.000 I've been very shocked, although I suppose I shouldn't have been surprised by all of that.
00:20:15.000 And we'll try and get him in this week.
00:20:18.000 No, I think Bannon and Epstein are related in the sense that they're part of the whole deep state conspiracy.
00:20:24.000 What I might do is go on...
00:20:26.000 They have a weekly...
00:20:31.000 So maybe I'll try and get booked on that and I'll ask him some difficult questions live.
00:20:35.000 Because he won't see it.
00:20:36.000 I liked Bannon.
00:20:37.000 And he might not see it coming from me.
00:20:38.000 He seemed like one of us, but he's not.
00:20:43.000 I think the bottom line is now Steve decided, is it going to be me or is it going to be Roger?
00:20:47.000 I picked Roger.
00:20:48.000 Yeah, I think that's what happened.
00:20:51.000 and you can take a view on whether that's understandable or not.
00:20:54.000 The point is that our friend Roger Well, I think a lot of it was based on the fact that in prison, you can only wear one colored shirt.
00:21:05.000 And Bennon thought it was a good idea.
00:21:07.000 Wait, I need a polo?
00:21:08.000 I need at least a dress shirt, a Hawaiian shirt, and a peacoat as a fifth layer if it's chilly out.
00:21:17.000 And a turtleneck.
00:21:18.000 Why would anyone have less than seven colors?
00:21:24.000 I mean, look, I do think it is understandable in the sense that it is a relatable situation.
00:21:29.000 If you have a family and it's like you or them, maybe it's not noble.
00:21:33.000 Maybe it's not morally admirable.
00:21:37.000 Maybe it's not what we would do or like to think that we would do in that situation, in that circumstance.
00:21:41.000 I think it is understandable.
00:21:42.000 It's called evil.
00:21:44.000 Are you defending Steve Bannon?
00:21:45.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:21:48.000 But there's understandable.
00:21:49.000 Steve Bannon is God.
00:21:50.000 Okay, let's hold on the coupe.
00:21:51.000 Bye-bye.
00:21:52.000 Let's just be clear about what we mean.
00:21:54.000 You can't support Roger Stone and...
00:21:56.000 No, no, no, no, no, look, we're going...
00:21:59.000 Let me be very clear.
00:22:00.000 But understandable, I'm simply meaning that it's possible to imagine the line of thought.
00:22:06.000 I'm not saying that it's commendable.
00:22:10.000 I'm saying that you can wrap your head around the disease.
00:22:12.000 Oh, I see.
00:22:13.000 That's all I mean, right?
00:22:14.000 You can understand where he was coming from.
00:22:15.000 That's all I mean.
00:22:17.000 Now, I happen to think it's contemptible and cowardly and disgusting, but it is at least understandable.
00:22:26.000 I guess.
00:22:27.000 I would have a different demeanor.
00:22:28.000 Like, if my children were going to be thrown in jail or whatever, my wife ruined, then as I said I hate Trump, I would be going, yes, I agree with what you say.
00:22:42.000 I want my children to stay out of prison, and Trump is the absolute worst.
00:22:50.000 Thank you guys.
00:22:51.000 But Bennett seems to have enthusiasm for his portrayal.
00:23:02.000 And the thing that I think characterizes a lot of us who have suffered in various ways over the last five years is we're the people who would not flip, who would not bend, who would not dilute our positions, would not roll, would not compromise ourselves.
00:23:16.000 And I'm thinking about you, me, Alex, Laura even.
00:23:19.000 David Kyriakos, the Indian proud boy who is facing trial next week, and he said, no, I'm not taking 30 days and five years probation.
00:23:30.000 So he's going to trial.
00:23:32.000 They separated him from the two white proud boys.
00:23:34.000 Yes.
00:23:35.000 Proud boys.
00:23:35.000 Because it would have looked better for them.
00:23:37.000 So they're separating that trial.
00:23:39.000 They're going to try to keep it under wraps because he's brown.
00:23:41.000 Yes.
00:23:42.000 Yes.
00:23:42.000 Because it doesn't fit.
00:23:43.000 But the point is that we have got to the stage where integrity is a liability.
00:23:52.000 Which is miserable and terrifying.
00:23:55.000 Precisely.
00:23:56.000 That's the end.
00:23:57.000 Let's end on that.
00:23:59.000 Get fired.
00:24:01.000 Get fired, get in trouble, be brave.
00:24:03.000 Epsilon did not kill himself.