Goldie Ghamari - 1000 Years of Jihad： Raymond Ibrahim

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00:02:00.000 well good afternoon everyone good morning good evening wherever you are

00:02:27.800 Thank you for tuning in for another episode of The Goldie Show, where we talk about all things Middle East, Islamic terrorism, jihad, and politics.

00:02:41.280 I have a very interesting live stream scheduled for you guys today.

00:02:48.880 We're going to be watching a podcast called Trigger-nometry.

00:02:55.160 And in fact, just a few days ago, the hosts of this podcast released an episode with Raymond Ibrahim.

00:03:08.360 Raymond Ibrahim is an American author, historian, and Middle East specialist known for his works on Islam and the West.

00:03:18.720 And this live stream was actually released on December 14, the same day that we heard about the horrific Islamic terrorist attack in Australia, where Islamic terrorists opened fire on Jews in Australia and Australian citizens just because they were gathering and celebrating Hanukkah.

00:03:48.720 So this came out on that day. And of course, over this past weekend, we have seen quite a lot of instances of how jihad and Islamic terrorism has been negatively impacting various countries around the world.

00:04:11.600 from the horrific mass shooting Islamic terrorist attack at Bondi Beach in Australia

00:04:18.660 to the barricading of Christmas markets.

00:04:24.500 I don't know why Christmas markets.

00:04:25.800 Well, actually, no, I do know why Christmas markets need to be barricaded.

00:04:30.200 It's because of fear of violence from Islamic radicals in those countries.

00:04:38.300 We've also seen Paris or France now have to cancel their New Year's Eve event because they are afraid of migrant violence.

00:04:50.400 Who are these migrants? Of course, they are Muslim extremist migrants.

00:04:54.560 And then, of course, yesterday, we got news that the FBI foiled an Islamic terrorist attack that was being planned by pro-Palestine activists for New Year's Eve.

00:05:13.420 And they were planning on bombing five New Year's Eve celebrations in the California area.

00:05:21.560 And if you're wondering why all of this is happening, I mean, let me tell you something.

00:05:28.780 This is why I've been speaking out about this, because many of us who come from the Middle East, many of us who have been victims of jihad and victims of Islamic terrorism, and we know what it's like, we have been sounding the alarm for quite a while now.

00:05:51.560 And yet every time that we have spoken up about this very real threat of Islamic radicalism and and jihad, we're just basically accused of Islamophobia.

00:06:05.500 I don't know about you, but I'm getting sick and tired of, you know, this this fake made up term.

00:06:12.140 There's no such thing as Islamophobia.

00:06:14.220 We as a society should not be silenced into criticizing radical ideology that is threatening our way of life in Western and also non-Islamic countries as well.

00:06:33.180 So we as a society for a very long time now have been gaslit into not wanting to speak

00:06:43.180 about these things, but we should be speaking about them because when we don't speak about

00:06:48.640 them, it gets worse and they murder us.

00:06:54.240 This is what jihad is, guys.

00:06:56.220 This is what's been happening in the Middle East.

00:06:58.720 This is what's been happening in Nigeria.

00:07:01.300 this is what's been happening in Israel. And now it's happening in Europe. And now it's happening

00:07:07.760 in North America. So I just wanted to thank everyone for joining. We're going to get started

00:07:15.500 shortly. Just a quick note, I am live streaming this on Facebook as well. But I just wanted to

00:07:24.420 let everyone on Facebook know that I'm not really monitoring the Facebook chat. I will try to

00:07:31.900 get to your comments if I can, but my priority is the YouTube chat. So if you are interested

00:07:40.360 in joining the conversation, you're more than welcome to join our live chat on YouTube as well.

00:07:49.600 All right, guys, let's get started here.

00:07:55.280 It's not Islam, it's Islam, and it's not Muslim, it's Muslim.

00:07:59.680 And the two words are connected.

00:08:01.160 And what that means is submit or surrender.

00:08:03.640 You know, how did it go from this guy who was just sitting in a cave?

00:08:07.980 They've conquered most of what was the old Roman world.

00:08:12.040 66%, let's say, of the original Christian world.

00:08:15.820 Where are these Islam-pranted cults?

00:08:17.620 Where are they?

00:08:18.260 Yeah.

00:08:19.600 Everywhere.

00:08:21.240 The UK's problems, man, they're just kind of mind boggling.

00:08:24.940 Your Islam problem is less about Muslims,

00:08:27.900 and it's more about the people who are enabling

00:08:29.760 and empowering them and bringing them in against your will.

00:08:32.420 I mean, I see in the UK radical Muslims screaming,

00:08:35.900 you know, like actual Islamic jihadist stuff,

00:08:38.880 and they don't get in trouble.

00:08:39.940 But then when a British person fights back, they get arrested.

00:08:43.500 Do you think the religion of Islam

00:08:45.640 is compatible with the West?

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00:09:01.260 raymond ibrahim welcome to trigonometry happy to be with you guys thanks it's super cool having

00:09:07.380 you on we've been looking forward to this for a long time um you are someone who's written a bunch

00:09:12.300 of books particularly about the islam and the interaction between islam and christianity um and

00:09:18.600 The most interesting thing to start with, I think, is to talk about how Islam comes into being.

00:09:24.280 It doesn't exist. Christians and Jews have existed for hundreds of years at this point.

00:09:28.120 Tell us about the start of Islam.

00:09:30.660 Sure. So as usual, especially nowadays, there's different approaches to history and there's conspiracy theories, etc.

00:09:37.340 So what I'm going to give you is the traditional account of the coming of Islam, which Muslims believe and which Christians and non-Muslims in general also believe.

00:09:44.840 And they have for centuries. And I only tell you this by way of preface, because

00:09:48.100 as of late, there's a lot of attacks on the early historicity of Islam and Muhammad, and did he

00:09:53.480 exist, did he not exist? Much of it, I think, is kind of polemical. It's the same sorts of things

00:09:58.220 that arose against Jesus, etc. So anyway, the standard theory, or sorry, the standard idea,

00:10:05.980 the rise of Islam, of course, is tied up to the person of Muhammad, the prophet of Islam,

00:10:10.000 who's born around 570 AD in the Arabian Peninsula and by the time he's 40 around

00:10:17.020 610 he gets he starts having revelations as he calls it by the angel Gabriel who

00:10:23.440 tells them it is the word we get caught on from which means recite and so he

00:10:29.000 supposedly starts reciting what becomes the Quran the verses and this goes on

00:10:33.700 year after year for decades actually and these are all so now you have the Quran

00:10:39.280 is supposedly based on that and you have surahs which is essentially chapters made of ayahs which

00:10:44.480 are verses which he supposedly recited because gabriel told him and these are supposed to be

00:10:50.000 understood as the words of allah the the god of islam uh of arabia the god in fact the word allah

00:10:58.000 is it's in arabic it really means god so it's you know when they when they translate it as god that

00:11:03.440 is not unfair um i prefer using the you know the proper name allah because it's more distinct at

00:11:09.760 any rate so muhammad does all this and he starts reciting and telling the people around him the

00:11:15.280 arabians who are by and large uh polytheists at this time especially he comes from the kurish

00:11:20.560 tribe um he starts essentially he he tries to he presents himself in a long line of the prophets

00:11:27.520 that are everyone knows about all the way from abraham to jesus who of course is a prophet

00:11:32.720 according to the islamic tradition and according to muhammad and anyway so he preaches basically a

00:11:38.320 sort of staunch monotheism and that's why if you look at the quran there's a lot of things that

00:11:43.680 you know christians and jews would find agreeable um and then the important thing that we have to

00:11:48.960 understand is that because i told you it goes on for year after year and it's in stages and so it

00:11:53.680 actually the tone of what um what gabriel's telling him to read kind of changes over time and it

00:11:59.840 And it really, if you look at it, it depends, if you want to look at it as a cynical non-believer,

00:12:04.340 or if you want to look at it as a pious believer, as a cynical non-believer who's trying to read

00:12:07.900 between the lines, who doesn't believe that Muhammad was necessarily being told to recite

00:12:13.020 from God, whether he made it up or whether, you know, it was an evil spirit talking to him.

00:12:17.540 And these, of course, are the popular non-Muslim, especially Christian,

00:12:21.140 understandings of what Muhammad was going through. In fact, Muhammad himself, when he was first

00:12:26.240 broached by Gabriel, thought it was a demon because it physically attacked him and squeezed

00:12:32.200 him, and he was sweating, and he had to go to his wife Khadijah, and she told him, oh

00:12:36.060 no, this is from God.

00:12:38.040 Okay, so even in the Islamic tradition itself, it's a little curious.

00:12:42.780 I'm sorry, let me interrupt you very briefly.

00:12:44.360 Who is Muhammad when he begins to receive these revelations?

00:12:49.000 He's a camel driver, and he's part of the Quraysh tribe, which is kind of noble, but

00:12:54.240 he's a lesser noble who's being who's he's an orphan and he's being raised by his uncle um and

00:12:59.960 at this time he's very relatively unknown and insignificant and he marries khadijah who's an

00:13:05.120 old uh rich she's got wealth she's got property livestock and he starts essentially kind of

00:13:12.580 working for her um so that's that so he's relatively an insignificant obscure person

00:13:18.200 in the larger scheme of things and that's why in the beginning so what i was trying to say is

00:13:24.000 there's muslims understand two stages he starts off in mecca this is where he's young and where

00:13:30.320 he's born and where he grows up and this is where he starts getting his early revelations

00:13:34.720 so from let's say 6 10 6 22 those 12 years it's what's called when you look at the quran these

00:13:40.480 are known as the meccan verses and at this time muhammad is essentially as i just said he's

00:13:45.600 insignificant he's weak he's preaching he's an itinerant preacher and um you know he has like

00:13:50.560 a handful of followers and over 10-12 years he has maybe 100 followers most of them are family

00:13:56.240 and basically um so his message is pal is is uh is not violent it's all about um it's all about

00:14:06.240 you have your religion i have my religion so when you get moderate muslims and they quote from the

00:14:10.480 quran there are in fact so we've heard about this before those of you who have watched my other

00:14:17.120 live streams both um dr bill warner and robert spencer have spoken about this when they talk

00:14:24.960 about um how there's like you know two two versions of um islam and the quran you have the first um i

00:14:33.520 think 10 years right which was very peaceful and then within those 10 years i think muhammad was

00:14:40.680 only able to convert, I don't know, like 150 people or something in 10 years. And then when

00:14:49.060 he went to a different city, and then when he started, you know, ransacking and pillaging and

00:14:55.040 converting people by force, that's when the followers really grew. And then that's when you

00:15:02.580 start to see a lot of the violent elements that lead to jihad. So that's what he's talking about

00:15:11.320 right now. So there's, you know, the two periods of history, the first 10 years where, you know,

00:15:19.020 only 150 people converted. And then as soon as he went into violent tribal, you know, jihad style,

00:15:27.860 that's when um islam really began advancing through jihad and conquest so um that's what

00:15:36.120 he's talking about that's what that's i'm pretty sure that's what he's going to get to um so yeah

00:15:40.740 that's what he's referring to here moderate verses uh that say there's no coercion which means

00:15:47.780 there's no literally yeah you can't be coerced in matters of religion and um like i said you

00:15:53.360 have your religion i have mine so he was preaching that when he was weak and outnumbered because he

00:15:57.260 had to because he had no military power whatsoever. And then eventually, you know, due to his

00:16:03.120 agitations, apparently the Kuriish, the polytheists drive him out and they mock him. You're not a real

00:16:07.800 prophet. You're making this up. You're a liar, et cetera. And he ends up going to Medina at the

00:16:12.820 time, Yathrib. And there he starts getting a bigger following and he becomes essentially a political

00:16:19.260 leader now. And this is so, this is called the Hijra in the year 622. And he goes to Yathrib

00:16:25.020 and this becomes it's so important in islam because it becomes a year one in the islamic

00:16:29.980 calendar 622 and he goes there and he becomes essentially a warlord okay and now he starts

00:16:35.340 going on raids against everyone who does not submit okay so islam you know i unfortunately

00:16:42.460 always end up pronouncing things like an american it's not islam it's islam and it's not muslim

00:16:47.820 it's not muslim it's muslim and the two words are connected right a muslim is one who does islam

00:16:53.980 so you see the slm and what that means is submit or surrender okay so that was it so the one who

00:16:59.980 is a muslim is someone who is submitting and surrendering to muhammad's call because if you

00:17:05.500 didn't you'd get killed at this point now that he's gone to medina and he's become a warlord

00:17:09.420 to muhammad's call or to the glory of allah well they're the same aren't they muhammad's presenting

00:17:14.780 it as if you do what i say you're doing god's will because i'm the prophet i'm the last prophet

00:17:21.100 who has come to correct this and the other thing he positioned himself as as the last prophet

00:17:25.820 meaning there's been a succession of prophets from like i said abraham noses moses etc all

00:17:32.380 the way to jesus and but the problem is christians and jews even though they were given scriptures

00:17:37.660 they're known as the people of the book they've um over the years distorted it so for example when it

00:17:42.620 comes to the person of jesus he was just a prophet but the christians made him into the son of god

00:17:47.820 and so for example in the quran you actually have thundering verses that are attacking

00:17:51.980 christians and calling them infidels or kufar which is a very bad designation because they

00:17:57.100 make jesus to be the son of god as one example and then also attacks on the trinity and so forth

00:18:03.260 so he presents himself as i'm coming to basically which these christians and jews were handed but

00:18:08.860 they've ruined it by and that's why they say till today the bible or what the new testament the old

00:18:15.500 Old Testament, whichever case has been, Muslims claim, has been tampered with. It's not the

00:18:19.840 original, okay? And I gave you the perfect example about Jesus. So they say that that's been added

00:18:24.740 in later and so forth. Anyway, so now he goes on the war path and it becomes jihad, jihad.

00:18:32.060 And that's just a word which means to strive and to struggle. And I always find that ironic because

00:18:37.440 the apologist for Islam, or let me go back a little bit, Orientalists, back in the day,

00:18:43.080 Europeans, when they would translate the word jihad, and they had to do this, they would just

00:18:47.420 usually translate it to holy war, which was fair. I mean, it's legitimate. You can't, when you're

00:18:52.820 translating words, you can't just sit there and break it down and get into the etymology. So

00:18:56.460 that's what they do. But then the apologists lately say, no, it doesn't mean that it means

00:19:00.400 strive and struggle. And it does. But the irony is that actually makes it worse. And it just shows

00:19:06.800 you how multi-tentacle the idea of jihad is. Because, so yes, it does mean strive and struggle

00:19:11.960 jihad which was introduced again by muhammad especially now in this final phase when he's

00:19:17.080 in medina and he's on the war path um but historically the only way you can struggle

00:19:22.280 and and and what is it you're trying to struggle and do like you said it's you're trying to bring

00:19:26.280 islamic rule you're trying to bring the glory of allah okay and uh the logic is and according

00:19:32.600 to islamic teaching till today islam must continue to spread including by force not that you have to

00:19:38.120 convert by force you're not you're not supposed to force people to convert especially if they're

00:19:42.440 people of the book because they're kind of close enough but islamic law has to govern the whole

00:19:47.400 globe and so if you are a christian or a jew you have to live in tribute you know pay tribute and

00:19:52.040 you're like second class citizen and if you're not you do have to convert if you're a pagan if

00:19:56.600 you're a buddhist or a hindu theoretically you're supposed to convert or die you can't even pay

00:20:01.800 tribute yeah or you know in in the case of iranians if yours are austrian um you convert or die so i

00:20:10.200 just tell you that to give you the idea so when they do jihad and they say it means to strive or

00:20:14.760 struggle that makes it all the much worse because historically the only way you're going to spread

00:20:19.880 islam was through force and violence who's going to accept it you're not in europe for example when

00:20:25.720 when the time came for the jihad to enter there you know europeans fought tooth and nail i'm sure

00:20:30.920 we'll get into that but um today of course you are able to trick people and empower islam not

00:20:39.000 through force so you're today you can do there's all these classifications of different kinds of

00:20:43.560 jihad which is different forms of struggle and they actually have uh i can give you quickly

00:20:48.280 their names in arabic you know uh jihad of the sand jihad of the tongue uh jihad column you know

00:20:54.120 jihad of the pen, jihad of the money, you know, or basically the baby jihad, all of these in their

00:21:04.200 own way help empower Islam. So with your mouth, you can engage in propaganda. With your money,

00:21:09.160 you can support disseminating Islam, you can support terrorist groups. And with your womb,

00:21:14.120 women are encouraged to have as many kids as they can, Muslim women, and men also to impregnate

00:21:19.320 women including non-muslim women with their seed so you can you know in inundate the world with

00:21:24.440 muslims and these are actually i mean this isn't me theorizing this is actually a lots and lots of

00:21:28.600 islamic clerics have modern-day clerics um articulated what i'm telling you right now

00:21:34.120 and you know obviously i jumped from muhammad to this to give you an idea of what jihad is

00:21:38.200 but historically during his time you can't get away with that stuff you're not gonna

00:21:42.360 through propaganda or lying trick anyone because everyone had their own faith that they were going

00:21:46.520 going to fight to the death for so he goes on the war path uh he wages jihad how much is he able to

00:21:54.300 secure in terms of land by the time of his death almost the whole of arabia wow we know it yeah but

00:22:01.160 i mean there's still it's funny too because a lot of them just in the hinter regions not all of it

00:22:06.240 but a big chunk of it and his ultimate goal was mecca which you know he was driven out and then

00:22:10.960 came back and um he conquered it but um a lot of the a lot of the hinter tribes kind of gave paid

00:22:18.000 lip service and and then once he died it was interesting because what happened immediately

00:22:22.400 was the ridda wars which is known as the wars of the apostasy right when he died it was all these

00:22:27.760 tribes especially that were away from the center immediately kind of were like okay so the jig is

00:22:32.560 up he's dead we're going back to our ways and the first caliph abu bakar waged another new jihad

00:22:38.640 against the apostates what does khalif mean khalifa which khalifa in arabic means successor

00:22:44.720 so he's the successor of muhammad and a caliphate is a a form of governance based on the successors

00:22:51.520 of muhammad just come back to muhammad for one second because it's quite an extraordinary story

00:22:57.840 a man not particularly anybody really preaches the revelations that he's got gets chased out

00:23:05.840 out of the city he's from, goes to another city, and then suddenly he's a warlord who effectively

00:23:12.040 conquers a huge swath of land. What do we know about Muhammad that meant that he was able to do

00:23:19.960 this? Well, I mean, keep in mind, by the time he dies, it's not really a huge swath of land. We're

00:23:25.500 talking about the Arabian Peninsula, which looks large, but it's mostly desert. And he has control

00:23:30.100 over various tribes and i think what you're getting at is ultimately it's not he himself i

00:23:35.620 mean one century after muhammad islam now governs all of north africa all of the middle east and is

00:23:40.980 in the middle of france so that's the the historical kind of um conundrum that a lot

00:23:46.100 of people have been wondering about how did it does of course start with muhammad yeah um and

00:23:51.060 you know how did it go from this guy who was just sitting in a cave talking to gabriel to a century

00:23:57.700 later essentially you know they've conquered most of what was the old roman world and most of it on

00:24:04.100 christian territory and even further east into outside of the roman christian world so that's

00:24:09.420 always been the let me guys um let me give you a visual of of what um raymond is talking about here

00:24:18.000 let me just um add this because i mean i i know what he's referring to but for many of you um who

00:24:25.380 may not be as familiar um with the geography or the area so this is what he's uh talking about

00:24:32.420 here let me just um remove and okay here we go so um this is from the world history website map

00:24:43.620 of the islamic conquests in the 7th to 9th centuries so here's the map okay um oh very

00:24:53.380 very big there so this is the map um over here when when he's talking about the arabian peninsula

00:25:02.260 right so this dark green part here actually so you can actually even see um let me make

00:25:08.500 this bigger i have it make this image small all right all right it doesn't give me an option oh

00:25:16.260 there we go okay so here we go so the dark green part is under muhammad and then uh so that's 622

00:25:26.340 to 632 okay so in 10 years and then under abu back here 634 um and then eventually so it goes to

00:25:37.620 like 695 so if we go back here so this dark this dark green part this is what muhammad was

00:25:46.100 able to, I guess, conquer in the first 10 years. And then the green part here is under Abu Bakr.

00:25:54.680 And then as you can see, it started spreading. So it spread here, you know, here it is spreading to

00:26:01.520 Israel. You know, this is of course, Persia. So this is when they conquered the Persian Empire,

00:26:08.440 um forcing everyone to become muslim you can see it also spread to india on this side here

00:26:16.980 and then all of north africa right so all of north africa here and then here you know the

00:26:23.560 byzantine empire so you know cyprus as well so now here it's getting into um parts of greece

00:26:29.720 and here it's starting to get into like um the you know europe and then on this side on this

00:26:37.640 side is where they conquered pretty much all of north africa and then it was through here this

00:26:44.580 part that they were then able to go in and conquer spain it was through through morocco here and

00:26:53.500 spain um was under muslim conquest for about 700 years until the christians were able to

00:27:01.680 fight back. Now, again, this map is only from the first 200 years. Obviously, it's expanded

00:27:12.920 quite a lot since then, but this is just the first two centuries. So this is what Raymond

00:27:22.880 Ibrahim is talking about here when he's talking about how fast it's spread within the first

00:27:30.540 100 to 200 years this is just um you know it goes from like this little green part here

00:27:36.760 Saudi Arabia to all of these places right so like literally within within 200 years

00:27:43.980 they had already conquered Spain um so wait how do I go back here so there you go so it this map

00:27:53.960 illustrates the rise and rapid expansion of Islam from the time of Prophet Muhammad

00:27:58.380 through the great caliphates of the 7th to 9th centuries. Beginning in Arabia, the new faith

00:28:04.940 and its armies spread under the Rashidun Caliphs, followed by the Umayyads and Abbasids,

00:28:10.880 creating one of history's largest and most dynamic empires within just a few generations.

00:28:16.520 The conquests reshaped the political map of Eurasia and North Africa. And the Sasanian,

00:28:23.560 So the Sasanian strongholds, that's referring to the Persian Empire there. So the strongholds of

00:28:29.840 the Persian Empire fell. Damascus, Jerusalem, Satespian, and Alexandria. And then new cities

00:28:37.220 like Baghdad. I mean, Baghdad is much older than that. But anyways, these cities were conquered

00:28:44.760 as well. So there you go. There's the rapid expansion of Islam through jihad and Islamic

00:28:53.660 colonization within the first two centuries. So I hope that gives you a little bit of

00:29:00.440 insight into what Raymond Ibrahim is talking about. So I'm just going to go back a little

00:29:09.540 bit now. So he can repeat that part of it. And now you guys have a visual and you can follow

00:29:20.060 along when he's talking about these different places and how they're being expanded.

00:29:24.540 A man, not particularly anybody really, preaches the revelations that he's got,

00:29:33.260 gets chased out of the city he's from, goes to another city, and then suddenly he's a warlord who

00:29:39.540 effectively conquers a huge swath of land uh what do we know about muhammad that meant that he was

00:29:47.540 able to do this well i mean keep in mind by the time he dies it's not really a huge swath of land

00:29:53.460 we're talking about the arabian peninsula which looks large but it's mostly desert yeah and he has

00:29:57.860 control over various tribes and i think what you're getting at is ultimately it's not he himself i

00:30:03.700 mean one century after muhammad islam now governs all of north africa all of the middle east and is

00:30:09.140 in the middle of france so that's the the historical kind of um conundrum that a lot of

00:30:14.420 people fat on fire um respect to goldie for speaking up and putting real effort into these

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00:30:32.940 and uh your support is is really encouraging so thank you thank you so much for that i hope you

00:30:38.600 enjoy the live stream. People have been wondering about how did it, it does of course start with

00:30:43.820 Muhammad. Yeah. And you know, how did it go from this guy who was just sitting in a cave talking

00:30:50.880 to Gabriel to a century later, essentially, you know, they've conquered most of what was the old

00:30:57.300 Roman world and most of it on Christian territory and even further east into outside of the Roman

00:31:02.580 Christian world. So that's always been the great riddle. And earlier historians, including those

00:31:08.240 who were contemporary believe it would it had to do with the fusion of jihad the doctrine of jihad

00:31:13.200 because up until then um look you had war people engaged in war non-muslim non-muslims engaged in

00:31:18.480 war christians engaged in war but it had especially with christians it became a just war type thing

00:31:23.440 and there were limitations to how you can do it but with muhammad he basically what i always say

00:31:29.680 is the genius of muhammad which goes to your question is that he basically fused the the sort

00:31:35.280 of tribal mores of his society and re-articulated them rather than fuse but he fused them with

00:31:41.760 theology and re-articulated them through sort of a theological paradigm so they became okay so what

00:31:48.160 is tribalism the tribalism of arabia which also prevailed in most tribal societies pastoral

00:31:53.520 societies was basically what is tribal it's me and my kin you know that's it everyone outside

00:31:58.480 of the tribe is the enemy that's how tribalism works it's not that we're not your friends you

00:32:03.040 are the enemy you exist for me to kill and plunder and enslave and do whatever with and um and the

00:32:08.880 tribe of course you know the first the closest is the you know the the the nuclear family and then

00:32:13.280 it keeps spreading you know cousins and whatever so it keeps growing what muhammad did is he

00:32:19.040 maintained that paradigm which was integral to the arab society that he was born in but like i said

00:32:25.200 he re-articulated with these islamic teachings so now use it so now you still hate people the

00:32:32.640 quran commands people muslims to hate not outside tribal people but anyone who's not a muslim and

00:32:39.120 you can see how that's tribalistic because we are the umma right the the nation we are the muslims

00:32:44.560 everyone outside of it we are commanded to hate and this is in the quran this is quran 64 where

00:32:50.160 where Allah says you have a good example

00:32:52.480 in Abraham or Ibrahim because,

00:32:55.940 and so, and this gives you another really good example

00:32:58.280 of what I'm talking about,

00:32:59.120 how Islam appropriates the biblical figures,

00:33:03.260 but recasts them in a way that validates itself.

00:33:06.540 So they say, so we know the Abraham

00:33:08.380 from the Old Testament in the Bible,

00:33:10.600 he leaves what God calls him,

00:33:11.860 he leaves what is it, the land of earth.

00:33:13.820 So what he's referring to is how like a lot of Muslims

00:33:17.660 say that jesus was muslim which is just the weirdest thing ever but so when he's talking

00:33:23.580 about appropriation that's that's what he's referring to her and you know he begins the

00:33:28.620 great migration uh towards the holy land which eventually gets conquered joshua etc um but

00:33:36.220 when he leaves abraham in the bible there's nothing about hating anyone in the quran all

00:33:40.300 of a sudden god allah tells muslims you have a good example in abraham because he told his kin

00:33:45.660 we hate you and enmity will last between us until you believe in all alone and so that became sort

00:33:51.180 of an islamic and in the quran it also says similar things about how a true muslim can't

00:33:56.380 hey he has to have these feelings and disassociate from his father his mother his brother his his

00:34:01.100 wife i have an islamic cleric recently who i translated a while back who literally says

00:34:06.620 because of this doctrine you can as a muslim marry a christian or a jewish woman people of the book

00:34:11.820 because that is permitted in islam but you have to hate them and you have to show them you hate them

00:34:16.460 but you can copulate with them and you know but you always have to make sure they know you you

00:34:21.020 hate them okay so this is an ironclad teaching and as you can see how so this is tribalism of

00:34:26.460 course 101 but now it has a theological veneer and then so what what do you do in tribes we hate

00:34:32.060 each other well i go and i plunder you right so that became jihad jihad is warfare on the outsider

00:34:38.860 who i'm already bred to hate i could say i mean in a secular setting tribalism not doesn't

00:34:44.860 necessarily i wouldn't say teach you to hate the outsider you just fear him they're they're

00:34:48.860 outsiders and you can kill them but it's much more when you really hate that person and this

00:34:54.060 this is something we get into because it's really this is the whole the heart of the matter to me

00:34:58.620 this doctrine that i'm i'm belaboring and in arabic it's kind of it's it's a dichotomized doctrine

00:35:04.620 it's called al-walat or al-barat, two Arabic words. Walat means loyalty and love for Muslims,

00:35:09.780 which we can put that aside. And what I'm looking at is the barat, which is hatred and enmity for

00:35:14.520 non-Muslims. Okay. And so that manifests in jihad. And, um, so anyway, so, so, and then if

00:35:21.700 you die, right, so you're the warrior, you hate the infidel, you do jihad. Now in a secular setting,

00:35:28.200 you, that happens all the time, historically, even in the present day, and people go fight

00:35:32.120 to plunder right but now if you win well you get all these whatever the booty you know animate and

00:35:39.180 inanimate you can gain and if but if you die you get even more now you go straight to heaven

00:35:44.620 straight to paradise where it's again hedonistic and materialistic and you get women and you know

00:35:50.200 it's very carnal the way it's described in the quran okay you know there's beautiful boys

00:35:54.540 circulating around looking like pearls and these are supernatural women who you will copulate with

00:35:59.000 in perpetuity who are made specifically uh for sex okay and rivers of wine etc rivers of wine

00:36:06.600 yeah yeah now you can drink wine once you get to heaven but not here i'm sorry maybe rivers of

00:36:13.480 honey or wine but i know there is wine yeah sorry i just that just took me yeah yeah yeah it might

00:36:19.400 something i'm being it's poetic language yeah and i you know but definitely but i know i do

00:36:25.000 know alcohol is permissible then because that's something they talk about um so my point is the

00:36:30.600 genius of muhammad if you're asking is that he just took that tribalism but re-articulated it

00:36:35.480 in a way that it became a win-win thing so now when i go and plunder the outsider the non-muslim

00:36:41.560 the infidel i'm the good guy now i'm pious and if i win and i subjugate kill whatever take and

00:36:49.800 conquer well then you know i'm even more righteous and if i die i get the highest level of paradise

00:36:55.000 So that was one of the earliest interpretations by non-Muslims as to the efficacy of jihad.

00:37:02.400 It's not very popular nowadays.

00:37:04.220 You know, your average secular historian will laugh at this and tell you, no, no.

00:37:08.160 But your average...

00:37:09.940 So someone, Dr. Ellert said, has anyone actually read the description of the virgins?

00:37:18.140 I am not going to read the description of the virgins as they're described in the Quran

00:37:27.300 because I want to keep the channel PG, but anyone can go and look it up. I just, I want to keep the

00:37:36.900 channel PG, so I'm not going to share the description of how the virgins are described

00:37:43.180 in the Quran. A secular historian will also tell you no one really knows how to explain the Arab

00:37:47.780 conquests and how rapid they were because uh you know they shouldn't by by any means they should

00:37:52.860 not have done what they did the most popular theory is that the two contending powers that

00:37:57.620 the arabs eventually in the 7th century conquered rome or byzantium and the sassanian persians were

00:38:03.220 so weak because they had been fighting each other so that's kind of the most popular theory but

00:38:07.880 still i don't think that's uh convincing in and of itself the news doesn't just tell you what's

00:38:13.060 happening so i kind of disagree with him on that that according to you know our history um we were

00:38:21.540 incredibly weak because of the the 30-year war that we had and that's how um the the you know

00:38:31.460 arab muslim invaders were able to um conquer the persian empire it's because um of the war and

00:38:40.240 because how weak the Persian Empire was at the time.

00:38:43.480 So I do disagree with him on that.

00:38:47.140 But I mean, again, it's history.

00:38:50.620 It can be up for debate.

00:38:53.460 But I'm interested to hear what his theory is,

00:38:57.800 because it seems as if he might have a different theory

00:39:02.100 as to how Islam spread into Persia.

00:39:08.040 it so often tells you what to think is happening and these days the biggest red flag isn't what's

00:39:13.900 said it's what gets left out that's why i use ground news it's the only site and app that

00:39:19.760 compares coverage from across the political spectrum all right let's get like these weird

00:39:26.940 geometry for 40 off their unlimited advantage plan the same one we use and start thinking for

00:39:33.580 yourself. So Raymond, so we have Muhammad. By the end of his life, he has conquered the Arabian

00:39:40.480 Peninsula. He dies. So what happens next? Who comes after him? The successor, Abu Bakr, who was

00:39:48.460 also his father-in-law and whose daughter, Aisha, the young child bride of Muhammad, one of his

00:39:54.560 wives that he married, he becomes a successor, but only for two years because he's elderly and he

00:39:59.180 dies. And so he's his claim to fame is what I was saying to rid the wars, the apostasy wars,

00:40:03.860 which is so he's the one that really consolidates Arabia more than Muhammad Muhammad begins with.

00:40:09.040 And there's a lot of, you know, like I said, you know, nominal submission to him, but also a lot

00:40:15.380 of real submission. But once he dies, Abu Bakr, those two years, he's known as the guy who brings

00:40:20.180 in and really consolidates Arabia. And then under the second caliph, Omar, Omar, the first,

00:40:28.220 this is when the great arab conquests begin so from 636 is uh which is when omar becomes the

00:40:36.140 caliph this is when the jihad erupts on everyone around okay and of course so arabia the first

00:40:42.600 part they attack is what's called greater syria which really encompasses the entire you know

00:40:46.980 eastern mediterranean syria all the modern day countries that you can think of lebanon israel

00:40:52.440 jordan portions of iraq people forget were actually very christian but they also attack persia you

00:40:59.160 know they go there and even go further um and this is all dirt so during mom uh omar's caliphate which

00:41:05.880 i think lasts a decade um that's when you get the massive arab conquest so egypt has conquered

00:41:12.120 um around 640 641 and like i said all the great greater syria there's a pivotal battle the battle

00:41:18.200 of yarmouk i wrote my master's thesis on that actually 25 over 25 years ago because it's that

00:41:23.880 pivotal um historians call it the most consequential battle in history because had the arabs been

00:41:30.520 defeated at the battle of yarmouk which is a river in syria um it's believed that you know history

00:41:36.680 could have been completely different but because they beat the romans that's when it was like a

00:41:40.600 domino effect and they started splurge conquered you know egypt jerusalem was conquered a year later

00:41:46.200 um egypt like i said 640 641 and then further west um until um by so by 711 all of north africa

00:41:56.920 has been conquered and now they're in spain the arabs conquering spain now so again i'm just

00:42:02.920 let's just go back to um that graphic that i shared with you guys okay so by 711 right um

00:42:12.440 um by what's going on here um so by 7 11 all of this all of this part has you know pretty much

00:42:22.340 been conquered right there's Persia there's you know Syria um Lebanon you know uh Israel is here

00:42:29.180 Egypt North Africa and then now there start so less than a hundred years less than a hundred

00:42:36.680 years after Islam was basically created. They're already going after Spain. Yeah, it's the Moors,

00:42:51.540 right? I mean, they call them the Moors, but these were the Muslim invaders, basically.

00:42:58.240 Keep in mind, because most people don't get this, but when we talk, and this is by design,

00:43:04.220 believe but when we talk about these regions if i say egypt or syria or whatever morocco or

00:43:09.180 mauritania to give it its historical name people just had this idea that these areas were kind of

00:43:13.660 always muslim or something those were of course the the heartlands of christendom not europe yeah

00:43:19.500 okay so if if you looked at christianity the christian world and it had you know spread very

00:43:24.540 far especially after constantine uh in the early you know 300s because he was the first christian

00:43:29.980 emperor but all of north africa right so from egypt to morocco all of the middle east all of

00:43:34.780 asia minor anatolia what we call turkey and then you know europe of course um you know the southwest

00:43:40.780 of the danube and rhine and that that's christianity that's christendom okay and in that

00:43:46.380 one century that we're talking about from 632 muhammad's death to 732 which is the battle of

00:43:51.180 tours which is in the middle or by portier in the middle of france they conquered all that which if

00:43:57.180 you look at the map is something like you know depending on how you look at it two or three

00:44:01.420 quarters of of uh uh 66 let's say of the original christian world and so let's go back and look at

00:44:09.660 the map again um so you can see right all all these places that he's talking about so i mean

00:44:22.140 not persia because the persian empire was zoroastrian um but i mean zoroastrians lived

00:44:28.220 peacefully with christians so that wasn't you know really a thing um but all like all of this area

00:44:33.500 here right um you know like this part this was all christian um here was like majority christian

00:44:41.900 egypt like all of north africa right that was all pretty much like majority christian and a lot of

00:44:47.180 of people either forget or they don't realize, or they just simply don't even know that the

00:44:55.800 Middle East used to be predominantly Christian. In fact, Christianity originates from the Middle

00:45:05.560 East, right? Like the original Christians were Middle Easterners, right? Jesus was a Jew.

00:45:12.880 Christianity started in what is now modern-day Israel.

00:45:21.200 People forget that.

00:45:22.140 People just assume that the Middle East was always Muslim.

00:45:28.060 And, right, it's just that's not the case at all.

00:45:33.800 All right.

00:45:36.000 Let's go back.

00:45:38.220 Important one, because there were five ecclesiastical centers,

00:45:42.000 you know bishoprics essentially rome is the one that everyone remembers which was in the west and

00:45:46.840 that didn't get conquered the other four did right and that would be alexandria antioch jerusalem and

00:45:53.120 constantinople itself later got conquered so i know we're talking about an ideology raymond that

00:45:59.720 is incredibly powerful and it's heavily incentivized people to go and be warlike and also

00:46:04.900 to be fearless because you know that if you die you're gonna you know you're gonna get all the

00:46:08.680 ladies, should we just say. So it's a good deal. And personally, if I was around then, I might

00:46:13.000 well have signed up. However, there must have been something else to these warriors. Because

00:46:20.560 to take on the Romans, to take on all these ancient civilizations, the Persians, they must

00:46:26.120 have been incredibly well-drilled as armies and ferocious fighters and also highly trained.

00:46:33.120 Okay. So yeah, like I said, this is known as one of the big mysteries of history,

00:46:38.120 the arab conquests they're not easy to um explain um okay some of the theories there was this massive

00:46:44.840 desiccation of arabia they claim where it was really becoming barren and so this caused a

00:46:48.760 massive migration that we don't really know about of who knows the number of arabs with their women

00:46:55.800 and children and camels just inundating regions that's one theory the other theory which i already

00:47:00.840 mentioned the most prominent one which is that the persians and the romans were so exhausted from

00:47:05.000 constant warfare uh but you can't really say that these guys were well militarily trained

00:47:10.680 they actually weren't and when you and we know their weapons their weapons or whatever they

00:47:14.920 could plunder from their slain victims you know okay i mean that was it um so and they didn't

00:47:19.240 really we don't know of any kind of arab uh military you know they weren't well militarily

00:47:25.880 trained but they were savage and they were ruthless and so that's how they were able to

00:47:34.280 conquer is because the the other armies the other militaries were so weak

00:47:40.440 that when the arab muslim invaders came they basically took no survivors i mean

00:47:48.520 just think about all of the stories that you've heard of how whenever the arab muslim invaders

00:47:53.560 would conquer um a city or a town they would just round up all the men and just behead the men

00:48:01.160 and then they basically took all the women as as slaves right so that's basically how they did it

00:48:08.200 um so i mean you don't have to be well militarily trained to um engage in in mass murder and and

00:48:18.120 that's what they were doing it was um basically uh ethnic cleansing formations it was just it was

00:48:26.360 the bedouin raid where you know which continues in fact with a lot of historically the islamic

00:48:31.560 nomadic peoples turks and mongols and arabs they they were great horsemen that's for sure

00:48:36.360 so i mean they definitely had that lightning speed the battle of yarmouk for example we know

00:48:40.600 that one of the reasons that they won is because they were used to desert fighting and apparently

00:48:44.840 there was a desert storm which the romans couldn't handle and it blinded them whereas the arabs were

00:48:49.000 used to those conditions um but one of the things that i always found interesting is there's a

00:48:53.800 relatively obscure but early chronicle that it's from Spain and it's in the

00:49:00.580 8th century so it talks about the 700s it talks it's very early and it talks

00:49:05.620 about the Arab conquest and it makes this kind of curious remark about how

00:49:09.340 they did not win through manliness but through stealth and deception okay which

00:49:16.480 you know I mean I don't know how to interpret that but basically the idea is

00:49:20.680 They wouldn't fight head on in a kind of, you know, in a sort of chivalric, which didn't even exist at that point necessarily kind of way or like a blunt force.

00:49:30.260 It was just hit and run tactics, kind of deception, which definitely marks the later, excuse me, way of war of, like I said, Turks and the Ottomans and the Seljuks and these groups.

00:49:41.060 So that's another thing I'm throwing out there because I don't hear people talk about it, but it is in the Chronicles.

00:49:46.700 the the the official Christian explanation was God had done this to punish us for our sins he

00:49:52.580 had raised Amalek to come and punish us because we deserved it now that must for cross-dressing

00:49:57.800 purposes I'm not even kidding there's no really there's an early document that talks and it says

00:50:03.320 and it says I have it quoted in my book sword and scimitar I'm forgetting right now pseudo

00:50:09.140 methodious I think but it says something like he he raised them up to punish us and because and it

00:50:15.860 lists all kinds of numbers of immoralities and one of them is because men were dressed like women

00:50:21.380 there you go yeah well so god is anti-trans gone to trans fight anyway but that must have sent

00:50:28.900 real shock waves through the christian world to see this new religion these new armies fighting

00:50:35.300 this new style almost guerrilla warfare style and just cut through swathes of christian heartland

00:50:41.780 and that's see that's the missing piece of the puzzle and nobody you know

00:50:45.940 invariably when we talk about is muslim christian hostilities from a historical point of view

00:50:50.900 it starts with the crusades everyone starts with the crusades and nobody seems to understand what

00:50:55.700 was building up towards the crusade which included a lot of fear and i mean for those of you who have

00:51:02.980 watched my previous live streams. We know that the Crusades were a response to the Arab Muslim

00:51:14.340 invasion. I'm going to pay very close attention to what he says right now about the Crusades.

00:51:22.360 And then I'm going to share a five-minute video clip from Dr. Bill Warner, where he basically

00:51:32.500 talks about the history of the crusades and you know why they happened and it's it's a very very

00:51:38.580 um interesting um visual presentation so um let's see what he says about the crusades

00:51:46.720 and then i will i'll interrupt the podcast to play that video and then we'll we'll go back to this

00:51:52.200 terror because um you know bernard lewis has a great quote which i quote from him let me go back

00:51:57.140 a little bit oh to see this new religion these new armies fight in this new style almost guerrilla

00:52:04.800 warfare style and just cut through swathes of christian heartland and that's see that's the

00:52:10.600 missing piece of the puzzle and nobody you know invariably when we talk about is muslim christian

00:52:16.240 hostilities from a historical point of view it starts with the crusades everyone starts with

00:52:20.680 the crusades and nobody seems to understand what was building up towards the crusade which included

00:52:25.720 lot of fear and terror because um you know bernard lewis has a great quote which i quote from him and

00:52:30.840 he talks about how you know by the time it was you know after these arab conquests and now let's say

00:52:36.280 it's the eighth and ninth century the europeans were just traumatized and devastated and a lot

00:52:41.400 of what we called or used to call it's not a very uh favorable term anymore but the dark ages

00:52:46.440 was in large measure because of these arab conquests okay and uh henry perrin for example

00:52:51.720 he was a historian 19th century that was his thesis which which is that the dark ages was a

00:52:56.760 byproduct of these muslim conquests which took what was once a roman christian lake at the time

00:53:02.760 right egypt had commerce with spain and with rome and syria you know it was one all it was christendom

00:53:10.040 and by by you know chopping that in half and essentially appropriating and seizing the older

00:53:14.920 richer more sophisticated more educated region which was the middle east and the near east

00:53:20.200 that's one of the main reasons that europe entered into this perilous dark age and henry perrin also

00:53:25.080 you know he i think the title of his book or his argument is or his famous line is that without

00:53:29.960 muhammad there's no charlemagne okay so the one necessarily led to the rise of the other and that

00:53:35.080 entire system and you know so most people don't know what built up and what was coming you know

00:53:40.520 in the centuries before the first crusade they just assume there's these you know these powerful

00:53:44.840 land grabbing hungry greedy knights want to go and just i've i've quoted this quote i'm going

00:53:49.960 to quote it for you guys so many times i think i've memorized it but it just it shows you the

00:53:53.880 rot of academia and uh it really underscores what i'm trying to tell you and it's by john esposito

00:53:59.720 this is a professor at georgetown university i don't know if he's still there he's probably very

00:54:03.720 old uh right now but he was there when i was there i went to georgetown university for a time in

00:54:08.520 washington dc and um and it it's a bastion of kind of islamic studies and whatnot but i didn't know

00:54:14.680 this at the time but it was a very kind of compromised bastion anyway one of his books

00:54:19.640 which is uh it's called islam the straight path and keep in mind this guy he was this is in the

00:54:25.320 early 2000s let's say he was very very active and his book came out and he's the editor of the oxford

00:54:31.160 um history of islam for example he was the guy that the you know the fbi and the cia intelligence

00:54:37.400 analysts they talked to him to understand about islam and whatever he has this line in his book

00:54:41.960 islam the straight path which verbatim i might be getting a little off but he says five centuries

00:54:46.600 of peaceful coexistence elapsed between christians and muslims before an imperial papal power play

00:54:52.920 led to a series of so-called holy wars that have left an enduring legacy of mistrust from muslims

00:54:59.320 to christians that's the biggest load of bs i've i've ever heard um from that academic professor

00:55:09.880 yeah like no wonder no wonder raymond ibrahim calls it academic rot because that is complete

00:55:16.120 and utter nonsense and yet that's what's being i i can't even believe that's what's being taught

00:55:23.080 um in in western academia and so of course no wonder um you know white people and european

00:55:31.640 european christians think that the crusades were a bad thing um that's like the

00:55:39.640 the historical revisionism is insane it's insane so what he's saying is before the first crusade

00:55:45.960 which starts in 1095 everything before that from moment from muhammad's life until all the stuff

00:55:52.040 i'm telling you was peaceful coexistence okay that's the official narrative so that's why i

00:55:58.200 think it's very important to really highlight what you just mentioned which is this really

00:56:02.920 this was a traumatizing event the sundering you know the first breakup of christendom with most

00:56:08.760 of it being conquered by this hostile faith and the rest of it being bombarded in the eighth

00:56:14.120 century all these islands were kind of the mediterranean islands were constantly being

00:56:17.480 attacked and conquered slave raids were constantly a given thing the whole idea of so much of what we

00:56:24.280 we know as feudalism and had to do with all these the coasts of the southern coasts of Europe so

00:56:29.960 many people actually abandoned them because they were the site of raids slave raids coming from

00:56:34.220 the Islamic world now North Africa and they would habitually go and enslave Europeans and take them

00:56:39.540 back and and the emporium for white flesh was Cordoba in Spain which was conquered like I said

00:56:46.080 starting in 7-eleven and that's where they would that was where they would sell white flesh which

00:56:51.260 always you know fetch the high price amongst the muslims so wow okay so um let me let me play you

00:57:00.460 so here's a five minute video from dr bill warner um on the history of the crusades so this will

00:57:11.500 like this is this is actually what happened and the video is called um you know jihad versus

00:57:19.340 the crusades so here we go this five minute video is you know actually what happened

00:57:31.340 whenever you're dealing with an apologist for islam or even a muslim and you bring up jihad

00:57:36.220 almost immediately they kick back to you well what about those terrible crusades why they're

00:57:41.500 the moral justification for jihad i mean we're just as bad as they are so let's not talk about

00:57:46.780 jihad okay let's talk about the crusades well what we'd like to talk about here

00:57:52.720 are facts and it turns out I sat down and put together some work and I created a

00:57:58.000 database of some 548 battles that Islam fought jihad battles against classical

00:58:04.960 civilization and this aren't even all the battles it really doesn't say much

00:58:08.380 about Africa and India Afghanistan and all that it's primarily the battles

00:58:13.720 against the classical civilization of Rome and Greece.

00:58:18.260 So, 548 battles is a lot, and it's too much to even comprehend.

00:58:23.200 So I created something which I call a dynamic battle map, in which you have a display of

00:58:27.860 the Mediterranean, and a white dot means that this 20-year period, that's a new battle.

00:58:33.800 So every time the screen changes, it's a 20-year period.

00:58:38.060 They then, colors white turn to red, so you can see a history.

00:58:41.880 This may seem a little confusing, but I think when you see it, you'll know exactly what

00:58:45.100 I mean.

00:58:46.360 And here it starts.

00:58:48.720 Islam bursts out of the Arabian Peninsula and immediately starts attacking the Middle

00:58:53.040 East.

00:58:54.280 And notice that it doesn't take long until they're crossing the Mediterranean and attacking

00:58:57.920 southern France and Spain.

00:59:01.100 Notice something here.

00:59:02.400 Most people think of Islam, they think of Arabs, they think of Arabs, they think of desert,

00:59:08.220 And yet here we see that Islam is projecting power throughout the Mediterranean.

00:59:13.520 Notice how the little islands of the Mediterranean are getting hammered.

00:59:18.080 The navy of Islam would attack coastal towns, kill, rob, rape, and then take slaves.

00:59:27.620 So this whole battle map as it unfolds, you're seeing slaves being taken.

00:59:32.400 Over a million slaves were taken out of Europe.

00:59:36.400 just guys pay attention to all of these red dots you're seeing all of these red dots are battle

00:59:44.640 sites um where the arab muslim invaders were fighting against um christians right i mean

00:59:53.680 here in iran of course um they were fighting against the persians who were predominantly

00:59:59.040 zoroastrian and then you know when you go further east you know you you see the you know hindus and

01:00:02.960 and Buddhists, but everything pretty much west of Iran, right? Everything west of Iran. So

01:00:14.600 everything you see in like Iraq, and then you have Israel, you know, even some parts in Saudi

01:00:21.480 Arabia, you know, northern Africa. And then of course, all of those red dots in Europe.

01:00:28.280 Um, that's where jihad happened. That's where the Arab Muslim colonizers went. Um, as you can see,

01:00:36.480 so in Spain, um, most of it is green. That's because, um, those battles led to them being

01:00:44.980 able to conquer Spain. Um, but you see like they even went, uh, like the, you know, this was

01:00:52.160 happening in France. It was happening in, in Italy. It was happening, um, in Greece. It was

01:00:57.400 happening like you know all all over but you know those red dots even though the Arab Muslim

01:01:05.580 colonizers went and you know they they attacked and of course you know initiated jihad they

01:01:13.220 weren't successful they were only successful in going as far as as northern as far as to the

01:01:19.760 north of Spain but but keep that in mind keep these red dots in mind because in a few minutes

01:01:26.720 he is going to compare these red dots that signify and represent Islamic Jihad, he's

01:01:36.620 going to compare these dots to the Crusades.

01:01:41.740 To the Islamic world.

01:01:44.220 That's something you don't think about much, but it's absolutely true.

01:01:47.680 There were over 200 battles fought in Spain alone.

01:01:51.240 And we also see, however, on the East Coast, in Turkey, that Islam is trying to break into

01:02:01.240 Europe.

01:02:02.240 Now, what's going to happen is, in Spain, this ongoing fight that lasted for 400 years,

01:02:10.240 the Christians are going to push back the Muslims.

01:02:13.240 But now then, what has happened over in the East is that Constantinople has fallen, and

01:02:18.240 and now then Eastern Europe is getting hammered.

01:02:21.240 The jihad now comes to Eastern Europe.

01:02:24.240 It's pushed out now of Spain.

01:02:27.240 Northern Africa is now completely Islamic.

01:02:29.240 The Middle East is completely Islamic.

01:02:32.240 This is all jihad.

01:02:34.240 Relentless jihad.

01:02:36.240 And why is it so relentless?

01:02:38.240 Well, Muhammad was relentless in his jihad.

01:02:41.240 And these people are good students of Islam

01:02:43.240 and so it's against the Kafir, on and on.

01:02:47.240 It was traditional that when the sultan came to power, the brand new sultan, he would immediately

01:02:53.560 try to launch new wars because he was going to be noted in his Islamic history as to how

01:02:58.460 well he fought against the kafir.

01:03:04.340 So that's what the jihad looked like over that time period, 548 battles.

01:03:09.460 But remember, when you bring up jihad, people want to bring up the crusades.

01:03:13.640 So I also prepared a dynamic battle map of all the offensive raids of the Crusaders.

01:03:19.100 Let's watch it and make a comparison.

01:03:21.220 And so it begins.

01:03:22.320 The Crusades enter into Turkey and the Middle East.

01:03:25.660 Battles go on, but aren't there far fewer than you thought there might be?

01:03:30.500 And here we go.

01:03:31.500 The last battles are fought, and that is the end of the Crusades.

01:03:37.060 So now then we...

01:03:38.060 Okay, he goes by very, very quickly, but here, let me pause that there.

01:03:42.240 So take a look at this.

01:03:43.280 So remember the, the map for jihad, where was it? So this is, this is, you know, this, this is the, the jihad battles, right? So you can see how like, it's, you know, spreading, spreading, spreading northern Spain, like all of, you know, Europe, or pretty much, you know, getting into Europe, all of North Africa, the Middle East, right?

01:04:11.220 All those, all those red dots are where the Arab Muslim invaders initiated attacks against non-Muslims in the name of jihad.

01:04:26.200 Here, this is the Crusades, this right here, right?

01:04:35.960 And yet, for some reason, well, not for some reason, I know for what reason.

01:04:40.380 And yet, we are being taught that the Crusades were evil and the Crusades were bad.

01:04:50.600 The Crusades would have never happened if the Arab Muslim colonizers hadn't been trying to conquer Europe for the last 700 years.

01:05:04.080 And the historical revisionism that is happening today, it's interesting, right? And you have to ask yourself, who is pushing these lies? And what is their goal and intention for doing so?

01:05:28.000 So, I mean, this is, you know, for me as like, you know, like I'm not a white person, right? Like I'm Iranian, I'm from Iran. It always was very strange to me to see, you know, I guess white people, white Christians, whoever, try to apologize for the Crusades or try to, you know, make reparations for the Crusades.

01:05:57.680 Meanwhile, as an Iranian, right, who who is conquered by the Arab Muslim invaders, I'm sitting there and I'm going, really, like, do you guys not know your history?

01:06:07.920 Like, do you guys not understand what happened? And what Raymond Ibrahim said in his podcast.

01:06:13.880 And we'll go back to what Raymond Raymond is talking about.

01:06:18.460 But I guess this is what's being taught in academia, that the you know, everyone lived peacefully until the crusades happened.

01:06:25.640 And they make it seem as if, like, white Christians just randomly woke up one day and decided to start the Crusades because they were bored, right?

01:06:34.520 Meanwhile, the Crusades were literally a response to the Arab-Muslim conquests, right?

01:06:43.280 I mean, again, just look at the battle maps here.

01:06:46.060 Look at these battle maps, guys, right?

01:06:49.460 This is jihad.

01:06:50.820 These are all the, you know, fights.

01:06:52.800 sorry these are all the fights that were started by the you know Arab Muslim invaders and

01:06:59.720 these are the Crusades

01:07:02.580 that's it all right let's let's finish up what Dr. Bill Warner has to say and then

01:07:11.540 we'll go back to Raymond Ibrahim's podcast is the end of the Crusades so now then we can talk

01:07:18.460 about some facts. Yes, there were crusades, but notice they ended centuries ago and jihad

01:07:24.760 is being practiced today. Jihad has been with us for 1400 years. There is no comparison

01:07:31.260 between jihad and the crusades. Certainly not a moral comparison. And when you're looking

01:07:36.560 at the crusades, remember, in one sense, all of the crusades were defensive wars. Why?

01:07:41.700 Well, as we saw on the first jihad map, it was Islam that came out of Arabia and conquered

01:07:47.460 the Middle East a Christian Middle East and so the crusaders were trying to free

01:07:51.720 their Christian brothers and sisters from jihad so there's no moral

01:07:56.400 comparison at all the motivation of the crusaders was to free Christians their

01:08:00.960 purpose of jihad is to enslave the kaffir so the next time you hear somebody

01:08:06.420 talk about all those dreadful crusades you've seen some facts about the matter

01:08:10.380 why don't you pipe up and tell them you know you don't really know the matter

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01:12:18.040 to Dr. Bill Warner. Let's get back to Raymond Ibrahim. So now I hope you guys have a better

01:12:26.280 understanding of what the crusades were about um and what actually happened before we move on to

01:12:34.280 the crusades i just wanted to concentrate on the islamic golden age was that around the time

01:12:40.440 that we know is the islamic golden age yeah so the islamic golden age well there's kind of two

01:12:46.760 and the one is the abbasids in baghdad and this is the the abbasid um empire starts after the umayyads

01:12:54.120 and the umayas are like so around 750. usually the abbasic golden age would be sometime after 800.

01:13:01.000 okay and this is haram el rasheed who's now allied with or on friendly terms with charlemagne

01:13:07.880 but there's also a supposed golden age in spain umayyad spain uh in cordoba and what

01:13:15.560 what needs to be understood about the golden age is this um the let me try to start off by giving

01:13:21.640 an analogy right i forget which country which arab country or you know in the gulf which is

01:13:26.600 the one that has those skyscrapers that everyone dubai dubai ua yeah okay imagine you know many

01:13:35.240 i also just want to counter something the islamic golden age is kind of a myth actually no it it is

01:13:41.720 It is a myth. It is a myth. The vast majority of scholars, scientists, authors, you know,

01:13:51.740 mathematicians during the Islamic golden age were actually Iranian. Okay. And many of them were in

01:14:00.800 fact fake Muslims. So they only pretended to be Muslim in order to stay alive and to of course

01:14:11.040 not be murdered by their Muslim overlords. So yeah, like there's no such thing as the Islamic

01:14:18.320 Golden Age. If anything, it should be called the Iranian Golden Age. And I just find it absolutely

01:14:25.060 ridiculous how the Arab Muslim colonizers are constantly trying to claim other cultures and

01:14:35.060 other civilizations as their own and you know why are they um trying to actively erase the um identity

01:14:47.620 of the scholars by just claiming that you know they're all muslim right that would be like um

01:14:56.260 you know saying like like what for example like when when people are talking about shakespeare

01:15:01.940 Right. Instead of saying that Shakespeare was a, you know, British poet, you know, imagine someone just saying, yeah, Shakespeare was a Christian poet and everything that he did was was because of Christianity.

01:15:17.440 Does that make any sense to you? Right? Like no one, no one talks about Shakespeare, the Christian poet, no one talks about Bach, the Christian composer, or Mozart, the Christian composer, right? They identify people by their nationality and where they were from. And yet, for some reason, when it comes to the Islamic Golden Age, they like to claim that, you know, all these scholars were

01:15:47.440 were you know first of all they erased their identity and they they never they never mentioned

01:15:54.160 you know that they were persian um and they just they basically say all this happened because of

01:15:59.040 islam right okay well if if the islamic golden age happened because of islam why the hell are

01:16:07.920 modern day countries that are governed by sharia law seventh century islamic hellholes i mean

01:16:15.120 I mean, if Islam is what led to the Islamic Golden Age, why is Afghanistan such a hellhole, right?

01:16:26.600 Why is Iran, which is now occupied by the Islamic Republic, a hellhole, right?

01:16:33.520 So you have to think critically about these things.

01:16:36.160 And the reason the reason that the Islamic Golden Age happened early on is because that was the same time that they were conquering all these different peoples from different civilizations.

01:16:52.180 And so every civilization that they conquered and captured, they basically took their knowledge, took their scholars, forced everyone to become Muslim, and then they claimed all of that in the name of Islam, right?

01:17:08.900 So you have to think critically about these things. And if you guys want more information, I'm actually happy to do a show in the future about the truth behind the Islamic Golden Age, because unfortunately, history is always written by the victors, right?

01:17:30.660 kind of how they're rewriting history when it comes to the Crusades, right? You have these

01:17:36.160 people just trying to make it seem as if the Crusades happened because the big bad Christians

01:17:41.560 just decided to attack the Arab Muslim invaders, very similar with the Islamic Golden Age. So I

01:17:48.440 will do another live stream in the future. I'll make a note about that. And yeah, keep an eye out

01:17:55.820 for that. I'll do it on YouTube. So make sure you're following me on YouTube and subscribe to

01:18:00.460 my channel and turn on, um, notifications. And, uh, yeah, they, they basically, you know, like,

01:18:06.660 like the biggest, you know, I'll give you one example. I'll give you one example. They like

01:18:10.600 to say that a Muslim invented algebra, which is totally false. First of all, algebra originates,

01:18:17.140 um, from India. And then, um, Al Khwarazmi, the, who we call the father of modern day algebra,

01:18:25.240 he was inspired by the Hindus. And then when he created modern day algebra, he did that despite

01:18:34.440 being labeled as a Muslim. And in fact, he was Iranian. So the father of modern day algebra

01:18:41.660 was Iranian. But you never hear about that. All they say is that he was Muslim. He was Muslim.

01:18:47.060 It was a Muslim that did this, Muslim did that. Not true at all. That's just one example. And

01:18:54.320 like I said, like 90% of the people involved in the Islamic golden age were, were Iranians and

01:19:03.460 were from the Persian empire. All right. I'll make a note of this and I will definitely cover

01:19:08.440 that in a future live stream. Let's say decades or centuries from now, those buildings are still

01:19:13.440 standing there. And you know, the whole, everything's changed and you know, Islam,

01:19:17.340 maybe he's gone or whatever. And people look at it and go, wow, that was a golden age,

01:19:23.460 that country that civilization because look what it led to now we would say well no i mean they had

01:19:29.380 their islam sure but this is actually money and westerners built it western technology western

01:19:35.140 workers and it just so happened that these arabs had the money to spend on it that i submit to you

01:19:40.180 is the best way to understand the golden age that happened historically it didn't happen due to

01:19:44.740 anything to do with islam quite the contrary it happened despite islam okay and it was basically

01:19:49.940 so let's uh if we go to i just said that guys i just said that right so he just said the islamic

01:19:57.040 golden age didn't happen because of islam it happened despite islam oh my gosh maybe maybe

01:20:04.300 he's actually going to say the truth oh my gosh guys okay the abbasid as i was telling you which

01:20:10.720 is the primary golden age um this is now okay so now the abbasid empire is more persianized and

01:20:16.940 it's, it's in, it's in Baghdad. Okay. And it's, it's, it's heavily Persianized. And at the time,

01:20:25.380 a lot of the, I just said that guys, I did, because that all used to be part of the Persian

01:20:31.060 empire, right? So all that used to be part of the Persian empire. And then when the Arab Muslim

01:20:36.580 invaders came and they conquered Persia, the vast majority of Iranians, right? In order to survive,

01:20:43.360 they, you know, pretend converted to Islam. But Persia and Persians, you know, now, you know,

01:20:52.480 Iran, we were conquered, but we were not colonized. So we kept our language, we kept our identity,

01:21:01.940 we kept our culture, we kept all of that. And, you know, the vast majority were just,

01:21:08.540 uh you know pretend muslims so that the arab muslim invaders would just you know leave us alone

01:21:15.420 so the oh wow okay this is this is really interesting um no wonder you guys were

01:21:20.700 recommending me to to to play raymond ibrahim he's actually wow he's okay like i'm i'm blown

01:21:30.540 away here i'm gonna go back because this is um wow immersed with spain and with rome and syria

01:21:36.940 you know it was one all it was christendom and by by you know chopping that in half and essentially

01:21:43.020 appropriating and seizing the older richer more sophisticated more educated region which was the

01:21:48.060 middle east and the near east that's one of the main reasons that europe entered into this

01:21:52.700 perilous dark age and henry perrin also you know he i think the title of his book or his argument

01:21:57.900 is or his famous line is that without muhammad there's no charlemagne okay so the one necessarily

01:22:03.020 led to the rise of the other and that entire system and you know so most people don't know

01:22:08.300 what built up and what was coming you know in the centuries before the first crusade they just assume

01:22:13.340 there's these you know these powerful land grabbing hungry greedy knights want to go and just

01:22:17.820 i've i've quoted this quote i'm going to quote it for you guys so many times i think i've memorized

01:22:21.900 it but it just it shows you the rot of academia and uh it really underscores what i'm trying to

01:22:26.860 tell you and it's by john esposito this is a professor at georgetown university i don't know

01:22:31.820 know if he's still there he's probably very old i went a little too far back let me see if i can

01:22:36.260 find where he's talking about it and they would habitually go and enslave europeans and take

01:22:43.880 them back and and the emporium for white flesh and it's it's it's heavily persianized okay there

01:22:54.140 we go all right or whatever and um people look at it and go wow that was a golden age that country

01:23:02.460 that civilization because look what it led to now we would say well no i mean they had their islam

01:23:08.340 sure but this is actually money and westerners built it western technology western workers and

01:23:14.580 it just so happened that these arabs had the money to spend on it that i submit to you is the best way

01:23:19.000 understand the golden age that happened historically it didn't happen due to anything

01:23:23.640 to do with islam quite the contrary it happened despite islam okay and it was basically so let's

01:23:28.760 uh if we go to the abbasid as i was telling you which is the primary golden age um this is now

01:23:34.280 okay so now the abbasid empire is more persianized and it's it's in it's in baghdad okay and it's

01:23:41.000 it's very it's heavily persianized and um at the time a lot of the people keep in mind when these

01:23:47.800 arab muslim conquests happen most of so let's say egypt and syria which were highly christian let's

01:23:53.400 say in the 8th century 9th century 10th century there's still majority christian and there's jews

01:23:59.720 also as well especially in alexandria and various cities and you have a lot of zoroastrians and

01:24:04.760 persia okay you have all these different groups who are living underneath now islamic rule

01:24:10.440 they're the ones who are doing all the stuff that we call the golden age okay it's christian

01:24:17.800 he just said it. Oh my gosh. Okay. This is, this is fantastic. Okay. I need to go find

01:24:24.560 more stuff by Raymond Ibrahim. Um, and his thoughts on the, you know, Islamic golden age.

01:24:32.660 Oh my gosh. Like he basically just confirmed what I've been saying. See guys, like I know my stuff.

01:24:38.660 I know my stuff. You guys have to trust me. Okay. Like everything I say, you know, just because you

01:24:44.300 haven't heard it before you might be like what is she talking about but i'm telling you guys i have

01:24:49.740 yet to say something incorrect and everything that i say um right it's true it's true

01:24:57.560 i need to listen to this part again like this is guys this is like this is so important and

01:25:04.400 westerners built it western technology western workers and it just so happened that these arabs

01:25:09.620 had the money to spend on it that i submit to you is the best way to understand the golden age

01:25:13.880 that happened historically it didn't happen due to anything to do with islam quite the contrary

01:25:19.060 it happened despite islam okay and it was basically so let's uh if we go to the abbasid

01:25:24.080 as i was telling you which is the primary golden age um this is now okay so now the abbasid empire

01:25:29.520 is more persianized and it's it's in it's in baghdad okay and it's it's very it's heavily

01:25:35.540 persianized and um at the time a lot of the people keep in mind when these arab muslim

01:25:42.320 conquests happen most of so let's say egypt and syria which were highly christian let's say

01:25:47.760 in the 8th century 9th century 10th century there's still majority christian and there's jews

01:25:53.360 also as well especially in alexandria and various cities and you have a lot of zoroastrians and

01:25:58.480 persia okay you have all these different groups who are living underneath now islamic rule

01:26:04.160 they're the ones who are doing all the stuff that we call the golden age okay it's christians it's

01:26:09.200 jews and and especially it's the persians in in the abbasid era and it's not because of anything

01:26:15.680 special about islam i mean they are literally not muslims and though and a few of them who are are

01:26:20.720 literally like they just converted their first generation converts which means they're still

01:26:26.080 primarily whatever their former religion was so the best that you can say is that the muslims um

01:26:31.760 you know uh sponsored it maybe paid for it okay but there was nothing intrinsic to islam and once

01:26:38.960 islam started to harden because even at this time did you catch that he just said what i'm saying

01:26:47.600 there is nothing islamic about the islamic golden age the vast majority of them were persians aka

01:26:54.960 iranians right boom and yet for some reason the arab muslim colonizers they like to go out and

01:27:03.920 they like to talk about the islamic golden age and how islam did this and islam no no it was not

01:27:08.880 that whatsoever vindication guys vindication this was fantastic I need to just like take a clip of

01:27:17.480 that I made a note here I'm gonna like take a clip of that because that right there right the

01:27:24.500 you have you guys have no idea how frustrating it is for us Iranians when you have these like

01:27:30.960 you know these these these radical Muslims and they go out and they're like oh the

01:27:36.080 the Islamic golden age is, and then meanwhile, I'm sitting there and I'm like, really? Because

01:27:40.780 the Islamic golden age wouldn't exist without the Zoroastrians from Iran, who are actually the ones

01:27:48.800 doing all of, all of the inventions and all of the findings and everything like that, right?

01:27:56.180 There you go. So we should, that's why I say, that's why we should call it the Persian golden

01:28:01.360 Age, the Iranian Golden Age, the Zoroastrian Golden Age. Well, no, not Zoroastrian, but

01:28:07.980 if anything, we should call it the Persian Golden Age. There you go. There you go.

01:28:15.780 I feel very, very vindicated with that statement. Yeah. All right. Let's continue.

01:28:23.940 The Abbasid Caliphate in the Golden Age, there's still debates between the various schools of

01:28:29.060 islamic law and there's some that were actually considered liberal you know if we can use that

01:28:33.680 term um but by i forget the exact time something like in the 10th century what's known as uh the

01:28:40.320 doors of ishtahad ishtahad was a way for the liberals to get around draconian islam and

01:28:45.900 the saying is the doors were closed and basically the hardliners won the islamic debate and now if

01:28:52.940 anything all that stuff started dwindling away okay so it was never because of islam but there

01:28:58.580 was a time where Islam in its early nascent period was, you can say, liberal enough to allow

01:29:03.400 this sort of thing to happen. But the people who were doing the achievements were actually not

01:29:08.620 Muslims. And if they were, they were like, literally just converted to join the winning

01:29:12.280 crowd like a lot of people did over the years. Or, you know, fake Muslim basically pretending

01:29:17.920 so that they wouldn't be murdered. And their mind and the way they thought and their heritage was

01:29:22.480 still non-muslim so that's why i give you that analogy you know of yeah saudi arabia and these

01:29:29.360 places if you look at their worldview their culture which is based on islam well yeah it's uh draconian

01:29:35.440 sharia law living in a desert polygamy etc etc but they have wealth and look at what they can have

01:29:40.960 and they can build skyscrapers they can have the greatest stuff that westerners can't have

01:29:45.680 that doesn't mean it's actually part and parcel of islam so that's uh the best way i think to

01:29:50.960 understand it the holidays are supposed to be relaxing but between travel gifts and family

01:29:57.400 gatherings it's chaos you lose oh my gosh these like little commercials are so weird

01:30:03.240 let me scroll forward okay yeah that's 50 percent off your first year at monarch.com with code

01:30:12.160 trigger and uh you mentioned that after the rapid expansion you might even say explosion of islam

01:30:20.580 across what was prior to that the christian world there were nonetheless lots of christians uh and

01:30:26.420 jews living there and also of course in the persian side zoroastrians which was the religion of persia

01:30:31.540 until the islamic conquest um what was life like for non-muslims under muslim rule well so we okay

01:30:43.220 let's first start off with what islam teaches because islam is very specific about life for

01:30:48.260 non-Muslims. If you're going to be a non-Muslim, so again, like I said earlier, theoretically,

01:30:56.660 according to Islamic law, you have to be a person of the book to be granted any measure

01:31:00.900 of tolerance, all right? Monotheistic, you have to believe there's one God. Yeah, yeah, and well,

01:31:07.380 what do they mean specifically Christians and Jews? No, well, that's the question. The term is

01:31:12.020 Ahl al-Kitab, which means literally the people of scriptures or the book. And the idea was,

01:31:17.700 more or less the jews and the christians but then later on it sort of became um it was extended to

01:31:24.100 people who weren't jews and christians and that was because they got tired of the bloodbath so

01:31:28.500 for example when for five cent for five centuries i want to say between let's say the year thousand

01:31:34.500 to 1500 muslims according to well-documented historians uh historical sources and i'm the

01:31:41.140 historian i'm thinking of uh uh i i know his name but uh he's an indian indian historian and

01:31:47.940 sorry just wanted to mention um someone in the facebook uh chat can't remember who um but

01:31:53.380 someone asked me to either do a live stream or a video or something about the the three wise men

01:32:01.060 before christmas um more than happy to do that i took a note down i don't know if i can make um a

01:32:07.300 whole like live stream out of it, but more than happy to make a short video about the three wise

01:32:17.800 men who visited Jesus Christ when he was born. For those of you who don't know, the three wise

01:32:23.640 men were actually Zoroastrian Iranians. There you go. So yeah, Persians were there. The Iranians

01:32:31.280 were there when Jesus Christ was born. The threes are, I think, I mean, I could be wrong here. I

01:32:37.600 don't know. I have to go and look into this because this is getting more into sort of the

01:32:41.620 religious side of things. And my expertise is more, you know, modern day Islamic terrorism and

01:32:46.860 jihad. But my understanding, don't quote me on this, I'll look into it, is that the birth of

01:32:52.540 Jesus Christ was somehow, I think, predicted by the Zoroastrians, which is why the three wise men

01:32:57.920 showed up where they did i don't know i'll look into it but yeah there's also um a a beautiful

01:33:04.400 connection between um iranians and and christians um between zoroastrians and christians and uh

01:33:13.460 yeah the zoroastrians were there to honor the birth of of jesus christ so yeah cool cool story

01:33:19.700 and uh nice little bit of of history there all right let's get back to the show anyway he says

01:33:25.320 that in that five centuries, 80 million Hindus were slaughtered because they weren't granted

01:33:31.760 the option of becoming dhimmi's, which Christians and Jews could. You could keep your religion. You

01:33:37.420 just have to pay extra tribute. And you, of course, have to be a second-class citizen,

01:33:41.360 which was not in any way, shape, or form. Just dig into that. So you have to pay jizya.

01:33:45.780 Yeah. I don't know if I'm pronouncing that correctly. No, yeah, jizya. Jizya. I thought

01:33:50.980 you laughed in my face for the pronunciation. No, it's just a funny word.

01:33:55.320 So you have to pay jizya, and you are allowed and not allowed certain things, right?

01:34:02.840 So talk to us about what that looks like.

01:34:04.700 Sure, okay.

01:34:05.260 So it goes back, according to Islamic teaching, remember the caliph Omar?

01:34:08.980 Yeah.

01:34:09.400 The second caliph.

01:34:10.400 So apparently, historians aren't sure where, but the Islamic tradition believes it's when Jerusalem was conquered in 637, and he came there.

01:34:19.620 There's this big narrative about how he came there and whatnot.

01:34:22.660 But supposedly he made a pact, it's called in Arabic Ahd-Omar, or the Pact of Omar, with the Christians.

01:34:30.980 And they basically told him, here's what you have to do in order for us to not kill you, basically.

01:34:36.920 And according to this pact, things that they could not do, they can't build churches, they can't repair churches,

01:34:42.460 and they can't sing out loud, they can't show a crucifix or a Bible around Muslims,

01:34:47.720 they certainly can't try to proselytize,

01:34:49.480 they can't stand in the way of their own relatives being uh turning muslim okay and it's a it's a

01:34:56.280 number of lists i actually translated in one of my books it's and it's called the conditions or

01:35:00.080 stipulations of omar some of them are if a muslim wants your seat get up and give it to them if a

01:35:04.680 muslim is traveling and wants to enter your house you have to let him live there okay so it's not

01:35:08.620 stuff that you necessarily want to enjoy but what it really coalesced around is it's still evidence

01:35:13.940 till today okay is you know you're just you know it's it's i guess to give you a good analogy is

01:35:20.500 kind of think of uh you know how blacks were treated in america and you know before civil

01:35:25.800 civil rights and uh and that which is like kind of like who do you think you are okay you know to

01:35:31.700 even think you're my equal that kind of mentality is what prevailed in these islamic societies so

01:35:37.120 if you're a christian or a jew you better know your place and don't complain and don't if someone

01:35:41.580 if if they abuse you or muslims rise up and and commit an injustice against you the law is not

01:35:47.100 going to come on your side that continues till this very day even even in you know the things

01:35:52.460 about like building churches that's still very evident in places like egypt you know where they

01:35:56.620 it's so hard for them to get you know it used to be actually you need a presidential decree

01:36:01.020 to build a church in egypt okay and uh now it's supposedly become lenient but a lot of

01:36:05.340 that people say it's just for show for western consumption um but in egypt oh someone asked

01:36:10.540 what i'm drinking i'm drinking coffee and i drink it black and i just spilled it all right there you

01:36:17.180 go constantly just this weekend i covered a story which has happened countless times including going

01:36:25.420 centuries back which is basically some sort of romantic liaison group between a christian man

01:36:30.620 in egypt and a muslim woman and so the muslims after friday prayers rose up completely devastated

01:36:36.860 the christians village or where the christians were living burned homes attacked through rocks

01:36:42.380 rioted screaming allah akbar and why well actually because according to islamic law

01:36:47.900 um a muslim man can marry a christian or a jew or a person of the book like i said but he has

01:36:53.580 to hate her but uh a non-muslim cannot marry um a muslim woman and the obvious reason in the

01:37:00.140 islamic mentality is the man's in charge so we cannot have an infidel in charge of a muslim

01:37:05.660 okay sorry just uh no i didn't i didn't spill it on my keyboard my laptop is off to my side so

01:37:12.060 keyboard was um keyboard was spared but uh no i just got a little bit on my coaster but we're all

01:37:21.980 good now from the coffee coffee situation so it serves me right for trying to like answer questions

01:37:29.180 about about what i'm drinking so there you go all right let's continue with with this show

01:37:33.580 but it's okay if the man's a muslim and the infidel it's already a second class so it's a

01:37:38.220 woman you know that's the mentality um so that's why they got angry but this story has happened

01:37:43.140 countless times in egypt where they get up and they engage in collective punishment which the

01:37:48.060 the conditions of omar which i was describing to you actually um it says if one of you does this

01:37:54.140 then the pact is broken for all of you so it actually does promote collective punishment of

01:37:59.000 the dhimmi's as they're known and this like i said it just happened this week it happened maybe two

01:38:03.100 weeks before that, because there was a rumor of a church being built also in Egypt. And it goes

01:38:07.200 way, way back. So my point is that it's actually a written codified thing, and it's become absorbed

01:38:15.060 in Islamic law and Islamic Sharia. But it's also just part of the society, because it's a

01:38:20.400 supremacist idea. Okay, I'm better than you. You're the dirty kafir. You're the infidel. You're

01:38:25.040 the Christian. You're the Jew, whatever. So how dare you want equal rights with me? That's the

01:38:30.380 overarching principle, and it continues to manifest itself with extreme regularity.

01:38:34.900 And your thesis, essentially, is, if I'm understanding you correctly, is you have this

01:38:40.120 rapid expansion of the Islamic world from nothing into taking over most of the Christian world,

01:38:46.240 including its key areas. That would be equivalent of, like, most of Europe and half of the United

01:38:51.220 States being conquered by Hindus, right? Over, what, 100 years, something like that?

01:38:57.280 Yeah, yeah. I mean, let's say the, I mean, in the first 10 years, a huge chunk, you know, Egypt and Syria were taken and which is by Syria, I mean, the Middle East and Egypt and most of what we would call Libya, though there wasn't much there anyway. And then, you know, Tunisia. I mean, think about Augustine, St. Augustine, who's known as the father of sort of Western theology. Well, he was from North Africa, from Hippo, which I believe is in or in Tunisia, that too was conquered very early, maybe by like 650s.

01:39:27.280 So continuing my metaphor, let's say for just for the avoidance of any triggering too far, the Hindus have taken over most of Europe and half of the United States and North America.

01:39:40.760 And what you're saying is that plus the way that the pre-existing population were being treated by their conquerors is what gives rise to the Crusades.

01:39:52.460 yeah yeah yeah no i mean what i what it depends on the the time we're talking i still haven't

01:39:58.880 gotten to what really gave rise which is similar it was more of the same okay so in other words

01:40:04.680 what i'm talking about is you know the seventh eighth ninth centuries and that's what's going on

01:40:09.660 and you know europe knows about it europe is also bombarded especially from spain because that's now

01:40:15.240 the latest they're in the continent right they're in europe um but right before the first crusade

01:40:20.620 there was a new sort of uh outburst islamic outburst and now the turks come onto the scene

01:40:26.860 they start coming in really in the 9th century as slaves slave soldiers and they're very good

01:40:32.620 warriors so the caliphates start bringing these turks uh from central asia as slaves and they

01:40:38.700 islamize them and they just train them to be great warriors jihadists and before long they

01:40:43.580 essentially take over and uh so this is the abbasid caliphate the golden age caliphate

01:40:48.460 and before long you know you have these the turks especially with the seljuk empire this is now we're

01:40:54.220 coming right before the first crusade um they essentially they keep the abbasid caliph as a

01:40:59.260 puppet right but now they're the real power and um they're the sultan in fact the word sultan

01:41:04.380 means power holder so now uh so let's say okay the first crusade is 1095 the turks really start

01:41:10.940 spreading and causing havoc around 1037 and it's especially against the armenians you know you talk

01:41:16.380 talk about the Armenian genocide it actually goes back a millennium before what we think

01:41:20.280 you know it's not uh it's not in the year just 1900 early 1900s or late 1800s that reminds me

01:41:27.740 I should probably do an episode on the Armenian genocide as well because it's not spoken about

01:41:33.520 a lot and um it's it's a pretty dark time in history and in fact a lot of the Armenians

01:41:41.440 escaped and went to Iran during the Armenian genocide in order to seek refuge because

01:41:49.060 Iran, again, prior to 1979, Iran was a pretty modernizing country, especially from when

01:42:00.000 the Pahlavi dynasty took over in 1924, I believe, somewhere around 1921, 1924, when Reza

01:42:10.860 Shah the Great. We call him the father of modern day Iran. When the Pahlavi dynasty took over and

01:42:16.620 he really began to modernize, modernize Iran, he got rid of all of the sort of backwards thinking

01:42:24.140 of the previous Qajar dynasty, which had been heavily influenced and heavily controlled by

01:42:29.640 the Islamic Shia clerics. And so, you know, even prior to that, a lot of Armenians sought refuge

01:42:35.840 in Iran during the Armenian genocide. And in fact, prior to 1979, Iran had a very, very strong

01:42:45.600 Christian Armenian community. You know, they had their own schools and everything like that.

01:42:52.540 Since 1979, many have left. The Islamic Republic heavily persecutes them, just like all the other

01:43:01.720 religious minorities. So yeah, it's, it's unfortunate, but there are a lot of

01:43:07.480 Armenian Iranians who are a part of, of our national identity as Iranians. And, you know,

01:43:18.060 they are also persecuted, but many of them did come to Iran to seek refuge during the Armenian

01:43:24.620 genocide. And I think it's a shame that the Armenian genocide has not been internationally

01:43:31.700 recognized. I actually do have some stuff to say on that. And I actually have some behind the scenes

01:43:39.500 political knowledge on why the Armenian genocide is not being recognized. And that's because of

01:43:48.100 the Muslim Brotherhood and the Muslims, some radical Muslims who feel like if the Armenian

01:43:56.820 genocide was recognized, that would lead to Islamophobia. There you go. And I speak from

01:44:04.360 personal knowledge on that because that's something that I experienced behind the scenes

01:44:08.360 as a politician. But I'll save that for another episode. It actually goes back to the year 1000.

01:44:14.000 And if you read the sources, and I have in mind especially Matthew Vedessa, who's a near contemporary, what the Turks were doing to the Armenians, and of course other Christians as they went further west into Asia Minor, is just mind-boggling.

01:44:29.360 I mean, it talks about tens of thousands of Armenians just being massacred, thousands of churches being set on fire.

01:44:35.980 The capital at the time, Ani, was known as the city of 1,001 churches, all of which were just completely devastated and torched.

01:44:43.140 And, you know, it's also interesting to note, and a lot of historians don't do this,

01:44:46.780 they make you think, okay, these Seljuks were nominal Muslims.

01:44:50.020 You know, yeah, they're called Muslims, but they were just, you know, fighters who were conquering whoever.

01:44:54.700 But in the sources, you see the religious hostility, okay,

01:44:57.400 where they like to go and desecrate, break crosses and decapitate statues and gouge the eyes of icons.

01:45:03.780 And, you know, of course, and desecrate tabernacle or the altars.

01:45:09.440 So that also comes out.

01:45:11.400 and um this is now going on and until the year 1071 now in 1071 you have the pivotal battle

01:45:18.600 of manzikert which is in that area it's actually it's again in asia minor sort of near lake von i

01:45:24.360 think again by the armenian areas and the eastern roman emperor the byzantine emperor marches one

01:45:31.080 of their largest um armies to stop these turks and they lose and it's one of the worst and the

01:45:37.160 emperor gets captured the first one in like a thousand years i think and um so now after that

01:45:43.480 they start just spreading further west and cover all of asia minor turkeys till they're not far

01:45:48.760 from constantinople now at the same time these same turks are from the moment the holy land was

01:45:56.760 conquered it was very early on a lot of these caliphs including the abbasid like i told you

01:46:00.920 who was who's sort of diplomatic relations with charlemagne they allowed christian pilgrimage

01:46:05.800 was very important to christians okay especially after constantine um you know really rebuilt

01:46:11.480 jerusalem built the church of the holy sepulcher around where christ was buried and crucified and

01:46:16.440 resurrected was a huge complex so pilgrimages were a major thing and a lot of muslims allowed

01:46:21.400 christians to come uh especially during the abbasid period for you have to pay of course

01:46:26.200 and you know put up with all sorts of things but they would come but now the these turks

01:46:30.600 they really went they ran havoc and um they started attacking pilgrims they started charging

01:46:37.180 them even more money and then not letting them go and one of the worst one of the worst anecdotes

01:46:42.940 that was pretty famous that happened in 1064 was a large german pilgrimage went uh went to the

01:46:50.220 holy land and among them it is described it's it's an early source they describe a very beautiful

01:46:55.520 abbess had none who was told don't do it because everyone knew it was dangerous to go on

01:47:00.420 pilgrimage and but she wouldn't relent and she went and they say you know all

01:47:04.320 all that all of them were killed by the Turks and she was gang raped until she

01:47:08.520 died and then it says in the end and the Turks did this very frequently to

01:47:12.240 pilgrims and of course they were desecrating the Christian holy sites

01:47:16.680 including the Holy Sepulchre and actually before that before the Turks

01:47:20.880 just just so you don't think it's just the Turks but a Fatimid Caliph from

01:47:24.960 egypt hakim amrallah in the year 1009 actually destroyed the holy sepulcher raised it to the

01:47:31.840 ground and according to muslim sources and i'm thinking of um el makrizi who's an egyptian

01:47:37.440 historian he wrote that that this guy this fatima khalif destroyed 30 000 churches um and synagogues

01:47:46.080 in egypt and greater syria which makes sense because like i told you that was a very christian

01:47:50.800 heavily christianized region one of the oldest okay so and at that time in 1009 the pope of the

01:47:56.800 time wanted to call a kind of a proto crusade they didn't have it at the time i mean nothing

01:48:02.480 happened but then as like i said so now it's building up and you're getting these turks doing

01:48:06.880 what they're doing and they're killing european pilgrims and and now the emperor of uh you know

01:48:11.600 constantinople they're right there at his doorstep you know they're in asia minor right across the

01:48:16.800 straits from constantinople so he calls for aid and that was the origin of the first crusade and

01:48:23.040 what was the stated objective of the first crusade what did they actually want for the pilgrims to be

01:48:27.840 able to go unmolested or to recapture the the land or what was the plan well the ultimate goal of

01:48:32.880 course was to have pilgrims to be able to go to the holy land unmolested that was you know the

01:48:37.360 number one but it was obvious that's not going to happen it hadn't really happened even before

01:48:41.040 the turks like i told you there was a lot of exploitation and abuse but now they were just

01:48:44.720 running you know amok and killing anyone and everyone and abusing them so it was basically

01:48:49.520 time to retake the holy land which used to be christian before the muslims took it and um

01:48:55.360 because you couldn't rely on the muslims anymore so it was time to retake and rededicate and you

01:49:00.240 know cleanse the holy land from these people that was number one but also the number one the second

01:49:06.320 one which is not really remembered much or talked about is was to help fellow christians the eastern

01:49:11.680 church the the call from you know according to some historians that was the chief catalyst um

01:49:18.080 one historian recently wrote a book franco pan i think is his name that's the whole thesis which

01:49:22.160 is this was really orchestrated and ultimately because of alexius the emperor who needed because

01:49:27.600 because of what was happening to him and so one of the verses even that uh biblical verses a lot

01:49:31.920 of christians and you see it was basically you know where jesus says love god with all your heart

01:49:36.480 and love your fellow man so loving god was going because holy places mattered then and it was going

01:49:43.040 to liberate his holy the holy land and loving your fellow man was helping these eastern christians

01:49:48.160 and pilgrims who wanted um you know to go and not be molested so that and it you know it's just sad

01:49:55.440 because a lot of people and historians will argue you know give you these cynical motives uh you

01:50:01.600 know oh this is second sons this was an old thesis that i think goes to you know runciman um stephen

01:50:08.240 runciman where basically oh a lot of these were just second sons who just had no inheritance so

01:50:13.360 they just wanted to go and it was it was a colonizing mission that had no rhyme or reason

01:50:17.680 well if you look at the sources that's all they talk about is what's happening to christians

01:50:21.280 how they're being slaughtered how the holy land is being defiled and polluted and how we have to

01:50:26.160 do something about it so that i mean that is unequivocally clear from a objective reading

01:50:30.960 of the sources there's something powerful about going back oh my gosh all right let's see

01:50:45.360 okay

01:50:48.720 we're getting close to the two hour mark here for my daily live stream um okay so

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01:54:21.760 to end today's show here. We're at a good sort of halfway mark for the podcast, the interview

01:54:34.300 with Raymond Ibrahim. So I will continue this tomorrow. I'm just going to make a note here

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Goldie Ghamari - December 16, 2025

1000 Years of Jihad： Raymond Ibrahim

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