Goldie Ghamari - November 14, 2026


🚨 BREAKING: ALL U.S. FLIGHTS GROUNDED! Trump REMOVES Vance From Iran Talks — NO DEAL!

IRAN REVOLUTION LIVE: DAY 248

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00:02:00 Well, Durud Patriots!
00:02:26 The Druid Patriots. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, wherever you are. Welcome to
00:02:31 tonight's evening edition of The Goldie Show, where we are going to find out or try to find out
00:02:38 what in the Allahu Akbar jihad is happening in the United States right now. What is happening?
00:02:45 I have no idea, but it is absolutely insane. Flights are grounded everywhere,
00:02:51 not just in America, but we checked the site on, you know, Iran Revolution Live,
00:02:59 on the National Airspace System website. Toronto, Pearson, and Montreal, Pierre Elliott Trudeau
00:03:08 are also grounded. So we're just going to watch. We're going to watch the news and we're going to
00:03:13 see, try to figure out what in the Al-Aqabar Jihad is happening. Shabbat shalom to everyone
00:03:18 who is observing. Happy Friday the 13th, I guess. And Americans, please be safe. And the latest
00:03:26 breaking news from Tusi is that they're in the dark. They're in the dark. No idea what's happening.
00:03:33 And apparently they're saying systems disruptions in Florida. Oh, and guys, Newton is also out of
00:03:41 beer. So, you know, huge, huge red alert right there. Newton is out of beer as well. All right.
00:03:47 Let me um, let me go to t
00:03:50 news and let's continue a
00:03:54 the investigation goes. Y
00:03:57 And ironically, that sma
00:04:00 to help with delays and c
00:04:03 they're having to respond
00:04:06 that's going to cause all
00:04:08 cancellations. Um, and you
00:04:11 secretary has been highligh 0.95
00:04:14 it's done over the past f
00:04:16 been rolled out you know it uses ai to basically predict weather patterns and and find routes for
00:04:22 planes that are going to get people to their destination quicker when bad weather comes up
00:04:27 and uh so that that's what it's supposed to do in a perfect world um obviously right now
00:04:33 at this ground stop it it's not doing anything because there are no i'm also going to check out
00:04:38 like some other news networks to see what other we'll head back if you got anything else thank
00:04:43 Thank you. Joining us now, Fox News contributor Jonathan Turley at an airport in Portland, Maine.
00:04:47 Jonathan, sorry you're stuck with everybody else. What are you experiencing?
00:04:53 Well, everything's short of human sacrifice.
00:04:56 I was actually on a plane about to take off when the pilot came out and said,
00:05:01 we just got a national grounding order and we're going to have to take you back.
00:05:08 And you did not appear very hopeful.
00:05:10 The problem is there's been a distinct lack of information.
00:05:14 People were told to wait.
00:05:16 Many have now given up the ghost.
00:05:18 You're seeing people who are just leaving in frustration.
00:05:21 What's surprising, Brett, is that there's not more of an update from the FAA.
00:05:26 There's statements that they don't expect any change by midnight.
00:05:31 But if that's the case, many of these crews, quote, time out.
00:05:35 out. You know, so that's a
00:05:37 delays is that under the F
00:05:41 can time out and then you
00:05:43 have a plane, but you've g
00:05:45 to fly it. And none of th
00:05:48 shared. So people don't kn
00:05:51 it's very frustrating. Le
00:05:54 in to Newsmax as well. Um
00:05:56 is saying.
00:05:57 purchases using consumers' credit cards,
00:06:05 but major banks have been raising concerns about that, number one.
00:06:09 And then I saw another report about some airlines,
00:06:12 unconnected to this, Paul,
00:06:13 but in general, they don't want Muse,
00:06:16 which is pushed by Meta now,
00:06:18 you know, booking flights on its own,
00:06:21 some of these AI bots, these AI assistants,
00:06:23 because they don't want these AI bots in their, you know, ticket booking system
00:06:30 out of a fear that that could cause problems, Paul.
00:06:34 Well, and again, AI, it's here.
00:06:37 It's here to stay.
00:06:39 There's not much we're going to do.
00:06:40 Wait, is Newsmax blaming AI? 1.00
00:06:42 Because that's stupid. 1.00
00:06:44 Guys, if anything, this is like Russian hackers. 1.00
00:06:47 AI bots.
00:06:48 If I was a gambling person, I would gamble.
00:06:51 I would bet on Russian hackers.
00:06:53 has gone on i remember a few years ago target uh uh was was hit with a with an attack a hack 0.60
00:07:01 a lot of personal information and credit card information was stolen and at that time target
00:07:06 didn't know for eight months that anything had happened yeah um the fact that the fact that now
00:07:11 we the ai bots start doing this and we know instantly maybe we're moving forward yeah or
00:07:16 China or China. We can't blame everything on AI. I mean, we built it. We can control it.
00:07:23 But this is what we need to look for. AI now is the boogeyman. But let's really take a look at
00:07:30 what the humans are doing. Yeah, no doubt about it. Paul, Craig, two great humans. Good to have
00:07:36 you on a night with a lot of breaking news. Jen, we'll have you back. Thank you. Gosh, this is
00:07:39 crazy. Thank you for having me. Coming up, we'll keep an eye on the FAA situation. We'll also get
00:07:45 into some politics our political panel all right okay so let's get back to fox news
00:07:50 gotta you know connect the dots at some point if they're they're going to be connected but jonathan
00:07:56 be safe go get yourself a lobster roll and uh we'll see you later thanks uh correspondent natalie
00:08:03 chuck joins us from los angeles i'll be right back good evening natalie you gotta you know
00:08:09 connect the dots at some point if they're they're going to be connected but jonathan
00:08:13 Be safe.
00:08:14 Go get yourself a lobster roll, and we'll see you later.
00:08:18 Thanks.
00:08:19 Correspondent Natalie Chuck joins us from Los Angeles International Airport.
00:08:23 Good evening, Natalie.
00:08:25 Did you guys know that?
00:08:26 We're outside of a security line here at Departures Near United.
00:08:30 Interestingly enough, seeing some people still trickle in through security,
00:08:34 clearly maybe optimistic that they're going to catch a flight tonight.
00:08:37 But here we have with us Chris Arnold.
00:08:38 He was heading to Columbus, Ohio, back home after being in Los Angeles for business.
00:08:43 wait someone is saying uh can you can you contact to see he went offline yeah i literally contacted
00:08:50 him as soon as he went offline and he responded back to me and he said we're in the dark no idea
00:08:57 what's happening they're saying system disruptions in florida and then i said oh my god please be
00:09:02 safe and then he sent me the the thank you emoji so to see is okay to see is alive we're we're
00:09:10 communicating don't worry guys don't worry guys this is a pro 2c channel we have 2c's back
00:09:16 so 2c's okay but uh let me just play this i'll be right back but 2c's okay
00:09:22 communication issue that was national so that's when i realized that i mean nobody was going
00:09:29 anywhere for a while so set the scene for everybody what it's like past security in there
00:09:34 what is the energy like? Well, it seemed like everybody was really deflated after the
00:09:40 announcement. So instantly everybody was looking at their phone, trying to rebook as soon as
00:09:45 possible. You've already booked a hotel for tonight, but a lot of the questions are how
00:09:50 long will this last? What are your plans and how are you feeling? Yeah, so I booked a place for
00:09:55 the night. I talked to a tenant and she was like, when it's national like this, it could be a day
00:10:04 or two. So I'm not sure. Thank you so much, Chris. We really appreciate your time. And of course,
00:10:08 we still don't know from the government, from any officials, exactly how long this will last.
00:10:12 But we do know that it's probably going to be a long night here at LAX, Brett.
00:10:17 Okay, Natalie, thank you. Obviously, everybody's concerned about the people flying all over the
00:10:22 country, including college football teams that are at away games that happen tomorrow. There
00:10:29 There are a number of them that folks in the sports world are listing that have been grounded
00:10:34 and they were supposed to head to someplace to play an away game.
00:10:38 And several of them have landed.
00:10:41 So it'll be interesting to see for all the college football fans out there
00:10:43 if your team is going to make it to the game away.
00:10:48 It's small news in the big picture of all of this happening, this national ground stop.
00:10:54 Meteorologist Adam Klotz is at Hartsfield Jackson International Airport.
00:10:58 Adam, maybe a college football fan, too.
00:11:03 Yeah, you're absolutely right, Brett.
00:11:05 I was on my way to Tucson, right, because I do the big new kickoffs Friday, Saturday morning.
00:11:10 Everybody knows this.
00:11:12 Tomorrow it was Utah versus Arizona, but now I'm stuck in Atlanta.
00:11:16 Hartfield, Jackson, and I've been eating fans.
00:11:19 I'm in one of the lounges here.
00:11:23 And in the lounge, they actually just announced that people were going to Amsterdam.
00:11:26 And I ran around looking if it was going to Amsterdam, but there are a lot of international problems.
00:11:31 What you see here is a bunch of Detroit Lions fans, and I was talking to them.
00:11:35 The Lions are on the road, right?
00:11:37 Yeah.
00:11:37 So where are you guys at?
00:11:39 Munich, Germany.
00:11:40 They played the Patriots this weekend.
00:11:42 This weekend.
00:11:42 So there have been a bunch of NFL games going overseas almost every weekend here this year.
00:11:47 They've really made that an emphasis for the NFL.
00:11:50 How are you guys feeling about your opportunity to go there?
00:11:54 i mean obviously to go to germany and watch the football i mean this is a big deal
00:12:02 yeah so i mean of course a lot of exposure for the game
00:12:07 finding out about the ground stop here we were here sitting in the lounge and just found out
00:12:10 about it but hopefully that keeps clear
00:12:15 obviously you guys are football fans and you're very passionate um do you feel confident that you
00:12:21 are going to get there because you i think you were telling me like we're going to make this
00:12:25 we're making it yeah we just that amsterdam flight just stuck off i think that we're gonna
00:12:29 we're gonna get out of this so you heard that answer that flight too and though
00:12:33 this is something that i don't think a lot of people watching tv know necessarily
00:12:37 is that here in the lounge they said this amsterdam flight guys can go bored now
00:12:42 which feels a little off compared to everybody else being grounded but that made a lot of the
00:12:46 international fans really excited i feel pretty good they might sit on the flight for a little
00:12:50 bit but i don't mind going on the flight uh a little bit early uh relax and have a couple years
00:12:55 before we watch the lions stick on the patriots so uh so obviously you know uh brett we're talking
00:13:01 about some exciting here because there's a bunch of football fans and i would be remiss if i didn't
00:13:05 say who do you guys think still in this game definitely the lions lions for sure lions take
00:13:10 the spread um you know take the spread brett uh they think the lions are gonna win and they're
00:13:15 They're making the best out of what is a really tough situation because the lounge here is packed with people looking to get out.
00:13:22 Will you cut us off recording, please?
00:13:24 Adam, thank you very much.
00:13:26 Good luck getting to the games.
00:13:29 Listen, we've got a site here that a lot of people are pointing us to that is telling pilots what's happening,
00:13:36 and that is the Airline Pilots Association.
00:13:38 Wait, did anyone hear someone say, can you stop reporting, please, or was that just me?
00:13:42 Because I literally heard someone say, can you stop reporting, please?
00:13:46 This printout that technical and communication system issues affecting flight and safety information systems, including NOTAM air traffic data.
00:13:56 The FAA has been gradually lifting restrictions and resuming normal air traffic operations as systems come back online, though residual delays and cancellations are expected nationwide.
00:14:06 That was so weird.
00:14:07 As far as airspace status, you can check real-time updates and active regional restrictions via the National Airspace System status page.
00:14:15 But that is the message from the Airline Pilots Association, two pilots, just released a few minutes ago.
00:14:22 The other word I'm getting is that officials at the White House expect a brief again tonight, possibly at the top of the hour, 7 to 7.30 p.m.
00:14:32 We're monitoring that for an exact time, but we expect officials and possibly the Homeland Security Secretary, maybe the Transportation Secretary, will see who's a part of that briefing anywhere between 7 p.m. Eastern and 7.30 Eastern Time.
00:14:46 Senior National Correspondent Rich Edson has more here, Rich, and there's a history that goes back in some of these things.
00:14:53 It's only happened twice, as we mentioned before, 2023 and 9-11, but there's some backstory to all of that.
00:15:01 Yeah, there is, Brad. And, you know, also to talk about some of this flight traffic opening up again, San Francisco International Airport has announced that flights going over the Pacific, that's notable, this isn't traffic that's going to be going over the lower 48 states, but Pacific bound traffic, places like Hawaii and Asia, that has opened up again.
00:15:20 And we've also confirmed that looking at the chart there and the departures board at SFO.
00:15:26 But you're right, Brett.
00:15:27 You know, you go back to that Cisco problem that happened in January 11th of 2023.
00:15:32 That was a 90-minute FAA ground stop from about 730 in the morning all the way to 9 o'clock in the morning.
00:15:40 The results of that by that afternoon, you had 9,000 flight delays and about 1,300 flights had been canceled.
00:15:48 I think that's probably the best parallel to draw here.
00:15:50 We've been going on hours of this delay right now,
00:15:53 and you want to talk about that cascade effect.
00:15:55 Also, that happened in the morning.
00:15:57 Airlines now have to deal with it.
00:15:58 They are finally getting back on there.
00:16:00 Okay, guys, I want to get back to this,
00:16:03 but there's just something that I really, really, really want to share with all of you.
00:16:07 And I know you guys may have seen this,
00:16:09 but I have been waiting all day to share this video from Scott Bassett.
00:16:17 So the U.S. grounding flight situation, it can, you know, we can wait a moment because this interview with Scott Besson today is absolutely epic.
00:16:32 And the flight situation is just getting started.
00:16:36 So I really want to share this.
00:16:38 So let's watch this absolutely epic statement from Scott Besson. 0.86
00:16:44 Joe, you know what I'm going to say, Joe, is F the Iranian leadership.
00:16:49 He means the Islamic regime. 0.89
00:16:51 The Islamic regime. 0.82
00:16:52 Joe, you know what I'm going to say, Joe, is F the Iranian leadership. 0.96
00:16:56 I'm not going to be coward that they have initiated death threats against me. 0.93
00:17:02 The other members of the cabinet were not going to be coward.
00:17:05 And it means what we are doing with Operation Economic Outcast is working.
00:17:10 And why am I going to be afraid when the brave military personnel in the Gulf, President Trump, constantly receives death threats?
00:17:20 And what we are doing is working.
00:17:23 And the IRGC, they're like a dangerous cornered animal.
00:17:27 So I follow the Secret Service instructions and have moved from my home to a military base.
00:17:34 And what I will tell you, Joe, I do want to say that one of the reasons I've had to move is because the Wall Street Journal printed a photo of my house the day I bought it.
00:17:45 It has geolocate on it.
00:17:47 And in a highly irresponsible way, the editor, we pleaded with her not to print the location of my house, but she did anyway.
00:17:56 Highly irresponsible and dangerous.
00:17:59 And things like that have to stop, too.
00:18:02 Shame on the Wall Street Journal. 1.00
00:18:04 And I agree with Scott Besson at the Islamic regime. 0.99
00:18:09 By the way, he didn't swear.
00:18:11 So it's OK.
00:18:13 He did it.
00:18:14 He didn't actually say it.
00:18:16 So we'll we'll we'll we'll allow this one to pass.
00:18:20 But epic statement from Scott Besson.
00:18:25 All right.
00:18:25 I'll be right back.
00:18:26 I'll be right back right now.
00:18:28 Well, maybe we'll get a call in from other contributors here stuck in these airports.
00:18:33 Mark, thanks a lot.
00:18:34 National Correspondent Brian Yenes again at LaGuardia.
00:18:37 Brian, you have somebody else.
00:18:40 Yeah, Brett, that's right.
00:18:41 Right now we're dealing with over 260 cancellations, over 600 delays here at LaGuardia Airport.
00:18:47 Terminal B, the American Airlines, is the main airline.
00:18:49 But we also have passengers who are on other airlines through here.
00:18:52 This is Rosa.
00:18:53 You were looking to get on a Frontier Airlines flight.
00:18:56 Tell me about how tonight's been for you.
00:18:58 Well, we just came here trying to check in.
00:19:01 but we found out that for some reason we don't know we don't really know what's going on but
00:19:06 our flight got delayed so apparently we're gonna end up leaving around 10 o'clock if everything
00:19:12 gets resolved so did frontier airlines give you any indication about why your flight was delayed
00:19:18 nope they did not give any other information just to wait you have no idea that there's a national
00:19:23 ground stop happening okay and uh and when you spoke to somebody how confident do you feel
00:19:29 about being able to leave tonight? Gosh, I feel like I want to go back. I truly want to go back
00:19:35 home to my home, but I don't even feel safe to be here in the airport because I don't know what's
00:19:42 going on. Wow. And you're headed to where in North Carolina? Charlotte. Charlotte. Okay. Well,
00:19:48 we do know that at least right now that there's nothing nefarious happening. So that's some good
00:19:51 news for you and for everybody else here. It looks like there's a communications issue,
00:19:55 but we're getting more information as we go. But thanks for speaking with me. What's the plan
00:19:58 If you can't get out tonight, I'll sleep here. I want to go. I want to go tonight.
00:20:04 No hotel. You'll sleep at the airport. Yes. You are dedicated. All right, Rosa. We'll keep in touch.
00:20:09 OK, you know, Brett, we also spoke to a couple of Canadians who are traveling here and they were trying to get to a flight in Toronto.
00:20:15 Their flight was canceled. They have been rebooked for Tuesday.
00:20:19 That just gives you an idea of just already the domino effect we're seeing as these delays and these cancellations start stacking up here.
00:20:27 One thing he told me, he doesn't have his insulin medication.
00:20:30 He's a diabetic.
00:20:31 So those are also the types of issues that people are dealing with when they travel
00:20:35 and don't expect to be delayed or canceled for days on end, Brett.
00:20:40 Brian, as far as the numbers of people there, a lot of people obviously try to get other
00:20:46 transportation and I'm sure the rental cars and the buses out of there.
00:20:51 But are there a lot of people at the airport at six and at LaGuardia?
00:20:54 Yeah, you know, to be honest with you, not as many as I have seen in the past, but this is only one of the major terminals.
00:21:02 I know that there are other terminals who are experiencing complete blank out cancellations throughout.
00:21:07 But getting here wasn't as difficult as I would expect at around 5 p.m. on a Friday headed to the airport.
00:21:14 So but there are people here that are lingering, no doubt about it.
00:21:17 And some are getting some information. Others are getting more information.
00:21:21 And so you better believe that there are people who are trying to make their backup plans.
00:21:25 This is New York City. There's plenty of hotels, but those hotels can get expensive very quickly.
00:21:30 There's also not as many hotels right near the airport.
00:21:33 So if you're not from here, all of a sudden you start going through a litany of questions and issues about where to go and how to get there.
00:21:39 Luckily, you can take a bus and there's the subway and the train system here in New York City, which is more than what most other cities can say during times like this.
00:21:47 But right now, the mood here is calm. People are looking up at the boards.
00:21:50 Again, there are a lot of cancellations, but there are also many flights that have been delayed for four to five hours.
00:21:58 So there is still hope here that these flights will take off tonight, but we'll see.
00:22:03 Okay, Brian, yes, we'll head back in a bit.
00:22:06 Let's check in with Chief Correspondent Jonathan Hunt out in Los Angeles.
00:22:10 Hey, Jonathan.
00:22:11 Hey, Brett.
00:22:12 Good evening again.
00:22:13 There is some good news on the West Coast, at least here now.
00:22:17 we understand that some flights that are westbound, in other words, out across the Pacific to
00:22:23 destinations in Asia, presumably, and possibly also Hawaii, are now being allowed to prepare at
00:22:30 least for takeoff. That is a sliver of good news on what is obviously a chaotic Friday night for
00:22:38 air travelers across the country. We're approaching the three-hour mark now since the FAA issued their
00:22:46 ground stop at 3.54 p.m. Eastern, citing what they called at that point extraordinary
00:22:53 circumstances and reasons of safety. It appears now they may be making some progress towards
00:23:02 identifying and indeed fixing the issue. And we're hearing that some pilots are being told
00:23:08 that flights are going to be allowed to begin moving. But clearly, when you have had thousands
00:23:15 upon thousands of flights grounded, thousands more in the air disrupted. This is thousands
00:23:23 of flights grounded, thousands more in the air disrupted. This is going to take a very long time.
00:23:32 5 a.m. European time, 5 a.m. in the U.K., that would be midnight Eastern. So clearly,
00:23:39 you are still going to get thousands upon thousands of travelers trying to deal with
00:23:44 the impact of this. And as our reporters all across the country at various airports have
00:23:48 been telling us, people are being told, book a hotel. Thousands upon thousands of travelers
00:23:54 are trying to deal with the impact of this. And as our reporters all across the country
00:23:58 at various airports have been telling us, people are being told, book a hotel because
00:24:04 it is very unlikely you will get out tonight. So while progress might be being made right now,
00:24:13 brett to begin fixing the issue uh the chaos is going to cascade for hours and hours more for so
00:24:20 many travelers across the country tonight brett yeah jonathan uh we we have so many uh contributors
00:24:28 that are on planes including uh guy benson who is just getting off a plane uh he's yeah like
00:24:33 i'm literally like on my phone like what's stopping people because i'm supposed to be on a plane
00:24:41 on sunday and i'm like do i get on my flight like what's going on with my flight so guys it's not
00:24:48 that i'm distracted i've i'm listening but like i'm also trying to figure out what's going to
00:24:53 happen with with my flight on sunday at different gates people he says guy benson are pretty chill
00:24:59 for now the crew is being very professional uh meteorologist adam klotz is at hartsville
00:25:05 Jackson International Airport. Adam is not there right now, but as we recue here, this is a
00:25:13 nationwide federal ground stop. The FAA issued this about 4 p.m. Eastern time, saying it was a
00:25:21 telecommunications issue, and they didn't expand on that more. We can tell you that there is going
00:25:27 to be a briefing from the White House, likely going to be the Secretary of Homeland Security,
00:25:32 Mark Wayan-Mullen, and also the Secretary of Transportation, Sean Duffy.
00:25:38 We'll get official word of that shortly, but they said sometime between 7 and 7.30,
00:25:44 and we will get the latest information.
00:25:46 Oh, my gosh.
00:25:47 It feels so late, but it's only like 6.45 p.m. Eastern.
00:25:52 Okay, guys, we have an update from 2C.
00:25:56 Breaking news, breaking news.
00:25:58 Official update from 2C.
00:26:01 everyone who's wondering about him um i sent him a screenshot of all your comments um and i said
00:26:07 your fans were worried about you javid to see so he responded um i'm still alive so breaking news
00:26:16 from to see he's still alive he just has comms issues but uh there you go that's the latest
00:26:22 breaking news from 2C. Let's get back to Fox News.
00:26:28 This one hits home. The morning of September 11, 2001, I was scheduled for my first flight
00:26:34 as a pilot for American Airlines. Saw the second plane hit, raced out to Naval Air Station Fort
00:26:39 Worth where I was flying Hornets in the reserves and sat at the end of the runway in a fully armed
00:26:43 and fueled Hornet ready to take down an airliner. So I was sadly part of the first and most famous
00:26:50 ground stop. So kind of like I've been watching your coverage, I immediately go to nefarious and
00:26:56 non-state actors or state actors. Weeks ago, North Korea hacked billions in crypto. Over the summer,
00:27:03 six military bases in the United States, the refrigerators were hacked. So, you know,
00:27:08 forgive me for kind of knee-jerk reacting to bad stuff happening, but hopefully it wasn't this.
00:27:14 I want this to be, you know, an update or bleed over from the Microsoft issue or somebody knocking over a cup of coffee and frying a laptop.
00:27:22 I don't want this to be something bad.
00:27:24 But, man, it tells you the threat environment in right now that's when a guy like me immediately starts thinking like that.
00:27:31 Yeah. I mean, there are multiple reports coming out.
00:27:35 CBS is reporting that an update to the private communications network that connects America's air traffic control system caused the system to reboot.
00:27:43 When the FAA's telecommunication infrastructure rebooted, it crashed, causing the communication outage.
00:27:49 The system is operational, they say.
00:27:52 We're waiting for the update from the FAA.
00:27:55 We do want to play some audio that this is between air traffic control and the pilots.
00:28:01 Take a listen to these couple of clips.
00:28:03 just a heads up it's a national ground stop for all aircraft update time unknown
00:28:09 chicago center is close to being atc zero as well for equipment we lost
00:28:12 we just got updated that as of right now the ground stop isn't affected until 2100 local time
00:28:17 number 2520 alpha meacham tower there is a ground stop nationwide i advise you land your aircraft
00:28:24 where would you like to land uh ma'am i'm student pilot honestly this is my time i'm doing solo
00:28:30 cross country and I don't know what to do where did you come from yeah so you can imagine getting
00:28:39 those uh kind of urgent calls uh and in the first moments of this uh you know shortly after 4 p.m
00:28:46 eastern time Brett I'll be honest with you man my heart rate's going up a little bit hearing all
00:28:50 that because it does bring me back to the morning of September 11th I pray to God it's nothing bad
00:28:56 but a quick shout out to my fellow Americans. Let's give some grace and first of all, let's
00:29:01 have some gratitude that things are okay. Airplanes aren't falling out of the sky and some
00:29:07 grace to the gate agents, to the flight crews and to the cabin crews. We all operate those
00:29:11 airplanes wanting to be safe. So we're all in this together. As you alluded to earlier,
00:29:16 a ground stop like this, it is a ripple effect. We're going to see days of cancellations and
00:29:21 reschedulings and as you said earlier in your coverage that a lot of flight crews are going
00:29:26 turn into pumpkins we have crew day issues so but these airlines have reserves and they'll call
00:29:30 out the reserves and stuff like that so we'll get uh through this but you know brett it really is
00:29:35 kind of a sad indictment of our air traffic control system every administration for the past
00:29:40 let's just say 40 years has said hey we have to fix this the trump administration is finally uh
00:29:45 not kicking the can down the road secretary duffy has been burning the midnight oil trying to get
00:29:50 this thing fixed. I'm gonna age myself. They use floppy disks, right? And transistors still.
00:29:56 So dragging this thing into the new age was never going to be easy. So hopefully it's just that
00:30:02 and nothing else that's bad. Yeah, thank you so much for being here. And you're right. We've
00:30:06 been dealing with it for decades. Hopefully we're getting there. Thank you. Let's go to
00:30:10 co-anchor of America reports, Sandra Smith. She's at LaGuardia in Queens. Hey, Sandra. 0.99
00:30:15 I wish I was joining you under better circumstances. I'm trying to get to the LSU game in Baton Rouge, Brett.
00:30:22 So this is sort of the same. I can sort of, let's see, I mean, it's almost every single flight is canceled here.
00:30:29 What I can tell you is a representative from Delta just walked over to me and said that they have been told,
00:30:36 even though there's a couple flights still scheduled up here, although I'd say 95% of the flights are canceled,
00:30:42 he said delta said no flights will be going out tonight and believe it or not right with my luck
00:30:48 one of the only flights that still looks like it has a chance is baton rouge but so here's the deal
00:30:55 i've spoken to a couple pilots while i've been at the airport you can sort of see the crowds behind
00:31:00 me there are people holding out hope otherwise rebooking the the airport was seriously rocking
00:31:07 with hope that like things would happen but then slowly things got canceled i spoke to a um the
00:31:13 pilot on one of the delta flights who said he landed in the middle of the ground stop and he
00:31:20 said it was like it was it was not a difficult situation like they were able to communicate
00:31:25 which i think is really important so they were informed of the ground stop in the middle of the
00:31:29 flight and they landed and it was not like he couldn't communicate with the ground operations
00:31:34 And I think that's really important to get across.
00:31:37 But otherwise, right now, what you're seeing is just sort of still an exodus from LGA as people are getting word that their flights are canceled.
00:31:45 So, so sad.
00:31:47 Yeah.
00:31:48 Yeah, sad.
00:31:49 Well, I hope you get to the game.
00:31:50 I mean, maybe, maybe there's a chance.
00:31:52 My kids are like, Mom, take off the, take off the New Orleans scarf.
00:31:57 But here we are.
00:31:58 No, no.
00:31:58 You need the garb.
00:31:59 You need the garb.
00:32:01 So, decent spirits there, right?
00:32:04 I mean, this is it's only happened a couple of times.
00:32:08 Yeah. You know, the more I talk to people, it's one of those Friday night sort of environments at the airport.
00:32:12 You know, people are a lot of people are going fun places or trying to get home.
00:32:16 So people are holding out hope. And let me I don't know if I can flip, but I can kind of do this for you right now.
00:32:24 It's just an exodus. People are just sort of leaving the restaurants were full.
00:32:29 People were just waiting to see what was going to happen.
00:32:32 And I think one of the main, you know, the one of the main things I was hearing from people was they just hoped it wasn't a hack or somebody taking over the system.
00:32:42 And if it's a telecommunications thing, they were happy to know that things will just get online and they can fly out in the morning.
00:32:48 So people are trying to stay optimistic. I think that's fair.
00:32:52 Yes. And you will, too. And you'll cheer on your team, I'm sure.
00:32:56 Well, Sandra, good luck.
00:32:57 By the way, Brett, I do wonder about college football.
00:33:00 Our football team is going to get where they need to go.
00:33:04 Big time.
00:33:04 I mentioned that before because some of them are grounded.
00:33:06 Some of them landed and they got to the away game, but there's a lot of teams that are in doubt.
00:33:12 Okay.
00:33:13 All right.
00:33:13 Well, we'll hold out hope.
00:33:15 Okay.
00:33:16 Thanks, Sandra.
00:33:17 Thank you.
00:33:17 Senior National Correspondent Kevin Cork at Ronald Reagan National Airport just outside D.C.
00:33:23 Kevin.
00:33:25 Listen, Brett, you know, I talked about this earlier, how the upper deck is usually pretty quiet,
00:33:30 But we're starting to see more and more people make their way here to the airport.
00:33:34 Obviously, what they're trying to do is see if their flight's actually going to take off.
00:33:38 I'm joined by Lucas and Danielle.
00:33:40 And I guess you guys had a flight earlier tonight.
00:33:42 Tell me, what do you know right now?
00:33:44 It's supposed to take off at 11, apparently.
00:33:47 That's when it's sane, but we'll see.
00:33:50 I'm not, I'm not, we'll see.
00:33:53 Holding your breath, exactly right?
00:33:55 Well, now, you were telling me, I think it was supposed to sleep at 530.
00:33:58 and you guys are trying to make your way down to Orlando, by the way.
00:34:02 Great place to go if you can, right, Lucas?
00:34:04 I'm just saying.
00:34:05 It's a great place to vacation.
00:34:06 You've been watching the reports, though.
00:34:09 What gives you hope that showing up to the airport would eventually lead to a trip?
00:34:13 Well, we're just crossing our fingers.
00:34:16 We want to be warm, and we're going to Orlando, Florida at Universal.
00:34:20 So hopefully we can be there by tomorrow and go on some rides.
00:34:24 Well, a lot of people are hopeful, as are you.
00:34:27 if it doesn't work out, what's the strategy?
00:34:29 You and Lucas are going to head home,
00:34:31 or are you going to camp out here like probably dozens of other people?
00:34:34 We were talking about renting a car, actually, maybe driving.
00:34:37 Yeah, driving.
00:34:39 Driving down to Orlando?
00:34:40 Yeah.
00:34:40 Now, that's ambitious.
00:34:42 Are you going to drive?
00:34:43 No.
00:34:44 He thought about it, though.
00:34:46 Brett, listen, I think a lot of people would probably wouldn't mind getting in a car right now,
00:34:50 especially if your flight was scheduled to leave at 530, and it may not take off at all.
00:34:54 But we'll see if Hope Springs Eternal and how things turn out.
00:34:57 But for now, back to you.
00:34:58 All right, Kevin, thank you.
00:35:00 Fox News contributor Guy Benson, as I mentioned earlier, was one of those people stuck on a plane.
00:35:04 Now he's off of a plane, joins us from Denver International Airport.
00:35:08 Hey, Guy, you hanging in there?
00:35:10 Hanging in, Brett.
00:35:11 Thanks for having me.
00:35:11 This is weird.
00:35:13 Yeah.
00:35:14 What's going on there?
00:35:15 Well, I mean, we landed.
00:35:18 So we were mid-flight when the ground stop was declared.
00:35:23 And so we had Starlink, actually, on this aircraft.
00:35:26 So I was on Twitter. Our ex, I saw that development and told my roommates like, hey, this could get weird and dicey.
00:35:34 So they made an announcement. Of course, we knew that we were going to be allowed to land.
00:35:38 But once we landed, there were no gates available because everyone was occupied.
00:35:42 So they had us just sitting there for quite some time and going through this laborious process, basically, of deplaning aircraft at each gate and then towing the airplanes away.
00:35:53 so stranded airplanes like ours could then get to the gate and people are like now what kevin i'm
00:35:59 on to you flight are we here can't corn is delicious by the way multiple days uh lots of
00:36:04 questions and very few answers yeah so and the attitude of people i mean kind of dealing with
00:36:10 it i mean yeah i mean the flight attendants i was flying united they were very professional
00:36:15 they came around with like cookies and you know waters to keep people somewhat mollified and
00:36:20 And people are taking it, I think, in stride, relatively good spirits.
00:36:24 But there is concern about what's going on here.
00:36:27 People mumbling about yesterday and Microsoft Outlook and that whole meltdown.
00:36:32 And then today, is that a weird coincidence?
00:36:34 Or is there something deeper going on?
00:36:36 Those are the conversations happening on the plane.
00:36:39 And like literally just got off my gates right over there.
00:36:41 And what happens moving forward for my flight tomorrow?
00:36:45 Who knows?
00:36:46 I'm just glad that I got here because I'm celebrating.
00:36:48 Oh, wait.
00:36:49 Okay, guys.
00:36:49 Sorry.
00:36:49 Okay. So, um, guys, Drachev is saying, I find the lack of meat disturbing. Um, Drachev, that's because I had, okay, listen, guys. So, fun fact, you know, I eat healthy all week. I eat healthy. I have small meals, you know, because I'm busy, I'm working, I'm doing my thing.
00:37:14 And then Friday, Friday evenings is like, okay, you know what, it's Friday, I'm gonna have like a nice meal. So I already like, pre ordered my meal. And you know, I had it coming. And the whole plan was to do my earlier live stream. And then I was gonna have like a one hour break, eat my dinner, and then come back for my 7pm live stream.
00:37:41 So, um, my Friday evening dinner is not just salad and it's not just, you know, it's not just
00:37:52 vegetables, but my dinner is also steak. So for those of you who are saying you find the lack
00:37:59 of meat disturbing, I literally have steak, but my steak has gone cold because, um, I didn't have
00:38:07 time to eat my steak. So there you go. Uh, it's not that there's a lack of meat. The meat is right
00:38:15 there. It's just, it's hard to like cut and eat steak in the middle of a live stream. So
00:38:21 my whole dinner is here. I just, I can't eat it. So there you go. Guys, I swear to God, I'm not a
00:38:30 vegan. No, no issues with, you know, people who want to be vegan, but I'm Iranian. Like I need
00:38:37 meat. Like I love kebab. I live off of kebabs. So there you go. There you go. But right now I'm
00:38:43 just eating my salad. Anyways, let's get back to the live stream. Eat it with your aunt. Guys,
00:38:53 this is not what are the what are those um what are those youtube channels called
00:38:58 or or like what's it called where you go to like just watch people eat
00:39:05 oh gosh there's like a name for it no i don't work for bake for big salad i swear i don't work
00:39:16 for big salad. I have, I have my steak right here. Yeah. The mukbang mukbang guys, this is not a
00:39:24 mukbang channel. I'm not going to do like a muk. Yeah. Mukbang. This is not mukbang. I'm not going 1.00
00:39:32 to do a mukbang. Maybe Rose will, maybe Rose will. But, um, if I was ever going to do mukbang, 1.00
00:39:40 it would be like iranian food mukbang but that's not what's happening tonight but don't worry guys
00:39:48 i'm not i'm not a vegetarian i i have my steak i just i'm just focusing on the news so let's
00:39:56 let's just get back to the news well the democrat from washington state who's the top democrat on
00:40:02 that panel both of them have sent out statements talking about wait wait laszlo was like what is
00:40:07 mukbang I don't know okay if you don't know what mukbang is I don't know Laszlo if you want to be
00:40:14 introduced to mukbang you know what let's let's watch a little bit of the live news because listen
00:40:19 guys a lot of this right now is just filler a lot of this is filler it's just they're just trying to
00:40:26 fill the the gap until you know an official from the White House speaks so um let's listen to this
00:40:35 but laszlo i will find a mukbang video for you and then you will be traumatized for life
00:40:42 how about that being up into the northeast and you know congress they held hearings on this
00:40:47 for months later that year this was in 2003 very rarely with the exception of what we had in january
00:40:54 of uh 2023 where we had uh you know a shorter outage uh ground stop there you know compared
00:41:00 to 9-11 certainly they went the whole hog into that investigation to try to figure out what was
00:41:06 going on because it affected so many people for such a profuse period of time oh wow and that's
00:41:11 kind of some guys we have a breaking news update from one of our viewers so arton says
00:41:15 i just arrived um at los angeles from dallas right now it's been two hours since we landed
00:41:24 with no gates available lax is chaotic right now wow arts and thank you so much for the updates
00:41:34 please be safe like it's it's insane it's chaotic out there right now but um thank you for that
00:41:42 thank you for letting us know so yeah apparently lax is wild guys if any of you are in an airport
00:41:48 or flying um let me know give us the live news updates here here we have reached out asking if
00:41:57 that is true and where exactly they might be headed uh but again no word from the airport just
00:42:01 yet that is what one of our photographers is seeing up there though meanwhile here outside
00:42:05 of departures uh out by united we are seeing some people continue checking in for their flights at
00:42:11 the kiosks as well as continuing to make their way through security behind us but within the last
00:42:16 hour, we've spoken to a couple of people who were past security. They were waiting to board their
00:42:21 flights when they got the notification about this ground stop and they made their way out back on the
00:42:26 other side of security saying they were not optimistic that they were going to be catching
00:42:30 any flights tonight. And this is part of why. If you take a look over here at this board,
00:42:34 we can see that all of these are crossed out. It's canceled all across the board. People are
00:42:40 walking up, trying to make out their flights, trying to figure out what's happening next.
00:42:43 Some say delayed. Of course, we do see some that appear to be on schedule as of this board, but still working to confirm exactly what is going on with all of these flights and how long this could be lasting. Meanwhile, a lot of people trickling into departures with confusion. They keep telling us that they either don't know what is going on. They don't know why the news is here. They don't know that their flights are likely canceled for the evening or they're trying to figure out exactly how long this will last. And of course, what exactly caused this massive nationwide ground stop
00:43:13 Brett. In the meantime, a lot of people here also hunkering down, hoping that they will still make those flights somehow tonight.
00:43:21 Okay, Natalie, thank you. Natalie Chuck at Los Angeles International Airport.
00:43:25 Well, we've been following this breaking coverage, rolling coverage, really since 4 p.m. Eastern time when Will Kane took over the breaking news at the first part of this,
00:43:37 national ground stop, all flights brought down to the ground from the FAA, citing a telecommunication
00:43:45 problem. Haven't really gotten to the gist of exactly what that means of radio communication
00:43:52 with pilots. The Homeland Security Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen came out, gave a briefing to
00:43:57 reporters at the White House and told them that he believed that all of the flights can get to
00:44:04 the ground safely, that communication can be established below a certain level. We're told
00:44:09 it's about 14,000 feet and that the issues they are working through right at that moment did not
00:44:16 believe to be nefarious. We are hearing from multiple officials the same thing, to be cautious.
00:44:23 They ordered the ground stop. Thank you for inviting us into your home tonight. That's it
00:44:28 for this special report. Fair, balanced, and still unafraid. We have breaking coverage.
00:44:33 All right. So while we're waiting for the next breaking, the next breaking news coverage, we'll get to that momentarily.
00:44:44 Wait, let's see what's going on here.
00:44:46 Sometimes since September 11th, a nationwide outage is being cited.
00:44:52 We have Fox team coverage coast to coast.
00:44:55 But we start tonight with Fox News correspondent Grady Trimble, who's on a plane at Chicago O'Hare.
00:45:02 Grady I know you might break up there on the plane and gosh we need someone with a camera
00:45:07 light to light you up my friend but tell us what you're tell us tell us what you're that's what
00:45:12 you're hearing get one of your get one of your counterparts there to give you some light from
00:45:16 the iPhone there you are I see you there you go hopefully hopefully that helps sorry I have
00:45:21 literally been on this plane so long it has gone from daylight to now uh dark of night here in
00:45:28 Chicago. So this was supp
00:45:30 flight from Chicago. O'H
00:45:34 around 2 15 or so. We pu
00:45:37 from the gate and we taxi
00:45:41 or so. And at that point,
00:45:43 us know that there's some
00:45:45 issue. Uh, and we thought
00:45:48 issue here at O'Hare, may
00:45:52 after a little bit, he go
00:45:54 this is a nationwide pro
00:45:58 for air traffic controllers
00:46:01 himself has been really g
00:46:03 updates. But at this point
00:46:06 here on the tarmac for abo
00:46:10 just got on maybe in the l
00:46:12 and told us we are six in
00:46:15 to go back to the airport
00:46:18 at this point, I think tha
00:46:20 hoping for just to get off
00:46:23 seen a lot of other folks
00:46:26 at airports inside the air
00:46:30 be one of those passengers
00:46:32 We've been on this plane f
00:46:35 waiting to go back to the
00:46:37 The next question is Laura 0.98
00:46:39 after that? I am planning
00:46:41 flight. I was just gonna t
00:46:43 and it's very easy to cancel 0.98
00:46:46 of people here who are obv
00:46:49 Chicago is my home. So I'm
00:46:51 and see what happens the
00:46:53 weekend. You mentioned th
00:46:55 time that this has happe
00:46:59 I was covering the first
00:47:03 that was related to a no
00:47:07 airmen. It's a system tha
00:47:10 lasted a couple of hours,
00:47:12 ripple effect of probably
00:47:16 and cancellations. So, yo
00:47:20 Grady, I think, Grady, continue to fly tonight. Yeah. Yeah, Grady, I think all my pilot friends
00:47:26 are texting me tonight saying all of you are thinking of flying in the next few days. If
00:47:31 this goes on much longer, the cascade effect will be, I mean, I'm supposed to be going to the
00:47:36 to Nashville tomorrow morning for a football game. Okay. So I don't think that's going to happen. So
00:47:43 you know, this, this will be exactly what I was about to say. And I've been trying to help
00:47:48 passengers around me too because obviously they're getting frustrated and i've been telling them
00:47:52 you know unlikely that you're going to catch another flight tonight maybe not even tomorrow
00:47:57 or in the coming days guys now and i think the main thing that everyone's stressing tonight so
00:48:04 um you know what i think everyone who's stuck in an airport you guys just need to like find a polka
00:48:12 band and if you're if you're guys if you're stranded in an airport just find a polka band
00:48:19 and then the polka band will take you where you need to go right
00:48:42 i'll probably be copyright striked for that one but it was so worth it because i love i love home
00:49:00 alone i love home alone and you know what we could use some some some clean humor oh omid's
00:49:06 Omid is like, what's this? Omid, if you haven't watched Home Alone, you need to watch Home Alone
00:49:12 because we from North America, we all know Home Alone. But yeah, there's some wholesome humor
00:49:22 for you. So if you're stranded in an airport, find a polka band, rent a budget van, and then
00:49:30 you know you can travel travel with a polka band and you know uh god bless john candy r.i.p john
00:49:38 candy action by any domestic or foreign actors again lots of good news coming out of this but
00:49:44 not for people who are trying to fly home or fly somewhere for the weekend no no that wasn't planes
00:49:49 trains and automobiles that was home alone that was that was a scene in home alone is at la
00:49:54 Gordia uh in New York Brian I cannot LaGuardia on a good Friday night is hectic oh wait wait guys
00:50:04 so so someone's like do you people not realize the implications of how serious
00:50:09 and dangerous all this is WTF is wrong with you well actually the reason that I've been
00:50:19 live streaming nonstop for the last four hours is because of how serious the implications 0.71
00:50:26 are. And, you know, once in a while, we need a little bit of a comedic break because the
00:50:32 way that we deal, you know, the way that we Iranians anyway, deal with intergenerational
00:50:37 trauma caused by terrorists is to, you know, have a little bit of a laugh. So if you're
00:50:44 new to the channel, welcome. But this is literally the reason that why I've been live streaming
00:50:49 nonstop for the last four hours, because this is a very serious situation. I mean, I don't know,
00:50:56 what do you want me to do? Do you want me to just be like, Oh, for the entire time? Like,
00:51:01 I don't I don't know what you want me to do. So but you know, once in a while, a little bit of
00:51:05 humor helps to, you know, ease the tension. Because it is a serious situation. But at the
00:51:11 same time at the same time you know we we like to lower the tension but uh i don't know like what
00:51:21 what do you want me to do on the live stream do you want me to just pull my hair the entire time
00:51:25 and be like oh my god america's burning down like i don't understand what your point is um by the
00:51:31 way dark humor is okay so if i want to share a home alone clip i'll do it and if you don't like
00:51:37 it you can go somewhere else there you go so what's wrong with me um i don't know i enjoy dark
00:51:43 humor as do most people on the channel by the way the biggest you know the uh the biggest
00:51:51 issue here is that newton is still out of beer so there you go we're still waiting for newton
00:51:57 just got home in massapiqua now he's gonna have to turn around come back and get us since we're
00:52:03 staying all the way till sunday now wow at least till sunday what airline are you guys flying
00:52:07 southwest and did you so when did how did you find out there was a national ground stop
00:52:12 uh that uh came on our phone it was a news alert uh we we didn't hear that from the airlines uh
00:52:19 and then when we just went to the desk yeah and by the way like what we're watching right now this
00:52:25 is all filler news like we're literally just watching live streams waiting for um the white
00:52:31 house to come out with their official statement, which should be coming out sometime around 7.30,
00:52:36 hopefully. Dana is saying, love the sweatshirt. Where'd you get it? So the sweatshirt is from
00:52:42 my merch store, but I'm going to say something very, very counterintuitive. Do not buy the
00:52:49 sweatshirt from my merch store right now because I'm in the process of revamping my merch store
00:52:56 and I'm in the process of adding new products and I'm also in the process of creating like a
00:53:04 Christmas promo for Christmas. So this is for my merch store, but do not go to my merch store right
00:53:12 now. Do not buy anything right now because in about a week or so, sorry, I'm getting over a
00:53:21 cold. In about a week or so, I'm going to have some amazing new products. Same quality though,
00:53:28 right? So all the products that I sell, I test it out myself. So like I can vouch for everything
00:53:34 that I sell. Good quality, amazing. And by the way, these sweatshirts come from an American
00:53:41 company. So there you go. So but just wait for like a week. And then once I have like some new
00:53:49 merch and then I update it. Um, and then there's going to be like a Christmas promo. Then you can
00:53:53 go and, um, you know, get whatever it is that you guys want with the discount. So do not buy
00:54:00 anything right now, which, which is funny because usually it's the opposite. Usually people are like,
00:54:05 go to my merch store and buy things. And I'm right now I'm like, don't go to my merch store.
00:54:09 Don't buy anything because I want you guys to take advantage of, um, the promo that's going to
00:54:14 come up. But anyways, there you go. And I actually have some cool merch coming that's
00:54:21 going to include the American flag as well. So keep an eye out for that. But let's get back to
00:54:26 the news. I don't know what to do. We just saw something online here that they're going to have
00:54:30 it closed till 10 p.m. Central. Is that true? Affirmative. As of right now, the ground stop
00:54:35 isn't affected till 2100 local time. The pilots all very calm as the nationwide ground stop was
00:54:43 issued, a DHS secretary, of course, Mark Wayne Mullen tells us, again, there is nothing suspicious
00:54:50 about what happened. There was no prior indication. There was no indication as of yet
00:54:57 that this was an nefarious attack against us. The ground stop impacted the planes on the ground,
00:55:06 but there are still some flights in the air. And at this point, just under 600 commercial flights
00:55:12 are still heading toward their destinations. That means, you know, that's concerning because
00:55:18 if they can't communicate appropriately or completely with the towers, the concern is
00:55:25 that would lead to perhaps, heaven forbid, any type of airline mishap. Let's hope not. Here
00:55:32 with me now is Josh Girard. He's a commercial pilot. Now is Josh Girard. He's a commercial
00:55:39 pilot of airline mishap. Let's hope not. Here with me now is Josh Sherrard. He's a commercial
00:55:45 pilot. Whoa. Now is Josh Sherrard. He's a commercial pilot of airline mishap. Let's
00:55:53 hope not. Wait, why is there, there's a glitch in the matrix? What's going on?
00:56:00 During 9-11, nothing in the sky for the next 49 hours. This was very different. While there was
00:56:06 a ground stop, we allowed
00:56:08 to continue to their dest 0.66
00:56:11 9 11, nothing in the sky
00:56:14 This was very different.
00:56:16 a ground stop, we allowed
00:56:18 to continue to their dest
00:56:21 is a very positive indicat
00:56:23 there wasn't a big national
00:56:25 had to do with terrorism
00:56:27 attack and that we were,
00:56:29 some communication. This
00:56:31 two ways. When you are on
00:56:34 you receive a clearance. As a pilot, we receive a clearance that basically tells us where we're
00:56:38 departing from, the route on how to get to our final airport, whether that be waypoints, jet
00:56:44 routes, and everything in between. The standard protocol for any kind of loss of communication
00:56:49 is to continue on that route. You're cleared on that route. That's what you're expected to fly,
00:56:53 and that's what every airplane in that airspace is expected of. And so as long as they continue
00:56:57 on that route, they know where they're heading, they know where they're going, they're going to
00:57:00 stay clear of other aircraft. Now, what we saw was a communicat
00:57:04 with our in route control centers, which are the high altitude centers
00:57:07 that control, you know, passage to and from different areas of the
00:57:10 country, not so much with the towers, the airports and the departure
00:57:15 frequencies and controllers that are near airports that bring those
00:57:19 airports in those final, you know, 50 to 100 miles and have them land safely.
00:57:24 We also didn't see so far, we haven't heard of a disruption with a very vital
00:57:29 piece of equipment that is
00:57:31 new within the last coupla
00:57:33 that is utilized by commer
00:57:36 and that's cpdlc, which i
00:57:39 for airplanes. It's contro
00:57:42 communication, which is mo
00:57:45 as radio communication. So
00:57:47 this radio communication w
00:57:49 still most likely able to
00:57:52 text messages. So if there
00:57:54 deviations, any kind of a
00:57:57 needed to be followed. No
00:57:59 are communicated through t
00:58:01 to clear up the radio tra
00:58:03 was heavily relied on for
00:58:06 as well. This is why we w
00:58:08 allow aircraft to continu
00:58:11 through those clearance a
00:58:15 order to get these peopo
00:58:17 a question. Is it all pl
00:58:19 commercial aviation? Is i
00:58:23 as well, josh? It basiqui
00:58:27 clearance. So any, any type
00:58:29 be it commercial, corpora
00:58:32 just private aircraft that
00:58:35 that's going to require me
00:58:38 for them to provide me serv
00:58:41 services, whether that's a
00:58:44 like that, they're going t
00:58:45 not going to give any of t
00:58:47 not going to allow that p
00:58:49 now VFR traffic, which is
00:58:52 flies throughout the coul
00:58:54 meaning they can see where
00:58:56 They'll fly as long as they stay out of controlled airspace.
00:59:00 Ah, okay.
00:59:01 So that clears it up a little bit.
00:59:02 Josh, thank you very much.
00:59:04 And millions of passengers across the country are stranded.
00:59:07 Some trying to rebook flights, others trying to just get hotel rooms.
00:59:11 No indication yet of when the ground stop was lifted.
00:59:14 We heard on that radio communication that there was some indication it could be lifted by 11 p.m. tonight.
00:59:21 Fox has not confirmed that, but that was flying around the pilot radios all afternoon.
00:59:28 Passenger Linda Romano is here with me.
00:59:30 She's also the mother of one of our producers.
00:59:33 Linda, you were supposed to be flying this afternoon from Syracuse to Melbourne, Florida.
00:59:42 Okay, so this is a little bit of like filler.
00:59:45 This is filler news.
00:59:46 You're not going to hear anything really important.
00:59:48 And so let me let me take a quick commercial break and we'll go to Laszlo's question.
00:59:54 What is mukbang? Because, guys, apparently we're going to be here until at least 11 p.m.
00:59:59 Eastern, which is like another four hours.
01:00:02 So we have another four hours of of news to get.
01:00:08 And so Laszlo was asking, what is mukbang?
01:00:13 Guys, here is a quick commercial break. Since you all wanted to know what is mukbang, here is mukbang.
01:00:43 You don't have to be able to use it.
01:00:52 Three, two, one.
01:01:08 Come on.
01:01:10 Let's take a look.
01:01:12 so there you go that's um that's mukbang mukbang is apparently like this phenomenon where people
01:01:24 um they eat food they eat food and uh it gets millions and millions of views
01:01:34 so you guys can all blame laszlo you can all blame laszlo for
01:01:42 so there you go there you go and uh now let's get back to the news so the next time someone
01:01:50 wants to ask a question about um yeah thank you goldie you're very welcome you're very welcome
01:01:57 now let's get back to the regularly scheduled program about um does not seem like this is a
01:02:05 cyber attack or ai or anything like that i asked him a couple different ways and he said it doesn't
01:02:11 seem like that and that that is the first thing that they always look for he said there's nobody
01:02:16 taking credit which would be common if somebody did execute a huge cyber attack like this on
01:02:21 critical infrastructure uh but that he would let us know and the team would let us know if that is
01:02:25 something that happened uh he said instead this seems to be a situation where there's a bunch of
01:02:31 old broken stuff in the the infrastructure okay listen i'm calling i am calling bs on this right
01:02:39 now so i can't actually pause the live stream because this is literally live um but i'm
01:02:45 calling bs on this because i'm telling you right now um if this was an actual cyber attack the
01:02:52 authorities would not say that this is a cyber attack because if they said that then the american
01:02:57 population would panic so even if even if this is a cyber attack the authorities are not going to
01:03:05 admit that this is a cyber attack, because they don't want the population to panic. So
01:03:11 there you go. That's, that's my political analysis on this. And I say this as a former
01:03:18 politician, because there have been situations in Canada, where there have literally been cyber
01:03:24 attacks, but the Canadian government came out and said, Oh, this is not a cyber attack. This is just
01:03:30 like a, you know, system failure or blah, blah, blah, because they knew that if they warn the
01:03:38 people and tell the people the truth, then everyone's going to panic. So that's all I'm
01:03:44 going to say on this. That's all I'm going to say. A press conference to keep the public aware
01:03:51 and reassured. I know we have these, a few comments here and there, and it's nice to see
01:03:55 that people are returning to the White House. But it seems to me that with so many people
01:03:59 flying on a daily basis and still 400 plus flights in the air that the american people yeah look i
01:04:06 mean look look look at the headline marco rubio has returned to the white house
01:04:11 okay guys if this was just like a system malfunction if this was a system malfunction
01:04:20 would marco rubio return to the white house right i mean come on guys background about what might be
01:04:27 coming but they haven't given us a lid yet which means they want the tv cameras and the microphones
01:04:32 to stick around so that and typically that means that something will happen so we would expect
01:04:37 some of the some of the people who are most involved to come out and take questions uh it
01:04:42 doesn't seem like it would be in the briefing room because there's a bunch of stuff like people just
01:04:47 kind of sitting on the stage next to the lectern uh maybe it's out here maybe it's somewhere else
01:04:51 but we know that they want to get this information out.
01:04:54 We are told they just don't have it yet.
01:04:58 And again, this is something that they know they have to get right
01:05:02 because there are a lot of people watching this right now,
01:05:05 including some who might be watching on the headrest of a jetliner that is trying to land.
01:05:12 Okay, so Mark Wayne Mullen says it's not 9-11,
01:05:15 but yesterday email goes down globally.
01:05:18 Microsoft is completely shut down.
01:05:19 They said that wasn't a cyber attack. They're saying that this global flight outage is not a
01:05:25 cyber attack. But the government, obviously, as they pursue this, knows more than they have told
01:05:31 us so far. And so this is something where you get a sense. They want to be really, really careful
01:05:37 about what they tell us. Yeah. And Peter, I think we definitely need people who come to the cameras
01:05:44 to know the specifics about these systems because it's one thing to talk in a very general way about
01:05:52 our air travel is yeah you know what here's here's the key thing here's the key thing i've
01:05:58 been monitoring president trump's truth social president trump has not commented on this at all
01:06:05 whatsoever if this was actually like if this was likely just like a systems failure or something
01:06:12 president trump would have said something by now but uh president trump has not said anything so
01:06:20 again like i'm not a panicking i'm not here to cause panic or create panic or anything like that
01:06:28 but i'm here to give my analysis as a former politician so what i can tell you as a former
01:06:36 politician is that in situations like this, if an elected official does not come out right away
01:06:46 and give a statement, that means that the situation is more serious than people realize.
01:06:55 And that elected official is being briefed in order to understand what's going on so that they
01:07:03 know what to say. So I'm not saying this to be a panicking, not at all. There could very well be
01:07:12 a very legitimate non-terrorist Allahu Akbar jihad explanation for what's happening, right?
01:07:20 I'm not here to make conclusions. But what I'm saying is that the fact that
01:07:25 this situation happened four hours ago, and President Trump still has not issued a statement
01:07:33 it means that there's more to the story than meets the eye so and i say that you know
01:07:41 as someone with political background political experience you know i was a politician in canada
01:07:47 for seven years um so that's all it is so we just have to wait um and uh yeah president trump hasn't
01:07:56 said anything um but i find that the fact that the media is like oh this is just like a you know
01:08:04 a systems failure that's weird but i mean this could be a directive to keep people calm i mean
01:08:12 i don't know i don't know um but we just have to wait and see but um what i'm seeing from the
01:08:19 news right now fox news is there's a lot of filler stories it's a lot of filler stories
01:08:26 Who knows what's going on?
01:08:29 Listen, I can rebook a flight, stay at home and not end up sleeping on the floor here at the airport.
01:08:34 The other thing is people are watching the information both on Fox and other networks,
01:08:38 and they're also watching online.
01:08:39 And the truth of the matter is, until and unless we get a lot more information about what exactly happened
01:08:45 and the impact of my particular flight or someone else's particular flight,
01:08:49 it's a lot easier for a lot more people to just simply stay home and watch and figure out what's happening
01:08:54 in coordination with their particular airline. That's why right now it's relatively quiet,
01:08:58 although the truth of the matter is a lot of people are here. They've been here for hours
01:09:03 and they will likely be here for many, many more hours, Laura.
01:09:07 Or it could be many days as far as we understand. Kevin, thank you so much. And here with me is
01:09:13 Gregory Glaros. He's an aviation expert and former U.S. Navy commander. And Steve Bucci,
01:09:19 he's a former assistant secretary of defense. He was also a lead cybersecurity consultant for IBM.
01:09:24 Stephen, I want to start with you. Secretary Mullen says they're not ruling anything out.
01:09:31 Officials are saying it was a telecommunications issue, which seems fairly broad.
01:09:36 But many of us are questioning, how do you rule out that something nefarious didn't happen
01:09:44 here? Because we know of all the cyber attacks that are constantly pinging our country,
01:09:50 And some of them have been successful, whether it's into the Office of Personnel Management
01:09:54 accounts. I'll get to your super chats in a moment. Internationally, even military bases
01:10:00 have had to fend off cyber attacks. So how is that so quickly dismissed?
01:10:08 Well, the truth be told, Laura, it's not quickly dismissed. As Secretary Mullen said,
01:10:14 they're looking into it more deeply. They don't just say, oh, well, it looks OK. We'll just
01:10:20 let it go. Look, the FAA are some of the most risk adverse people in the world. And thank
01:10:27 goodness for that. And they are going to make absolutely sure with the help from DHS, from
01:10:33 CISA, the infrastructure security folks, they're all working together to determine exactly
01:10:41 what this was. And as soon as they know, they'll give us more information. I don't know if
01:10:46 will get all of it, but we'll get a lot more than we've got so far. So it's going to be a little
01:10:51 while. We're going to have to be patient to get the honest to goodness truth here.
01:10:58 Greg, do you agree with that, that this could very well be something that it's communications
01:11:04 related, as we saw with the Microsoft outage yesterday, Amazon's also, you know, received
01:11:10 attacks over the, you know, recent months and so forth. I mean, are you also in agreement that
01:11:17 this could very well be a cyber attack? Well, I don't know yet about being or not being a cyber
01:11:23 attack. I mean, we do know that the telecommunications system has failed. The backbone
01:11:28 of how those controllers communicate to the pilots failed. But the good news is that everyone
01:11:33 is safe and that the controllers and the pilots are professional. They know what they're doing.
01:11:39 Everyone knows how to operate without communications, but they still have communications with the towers and the ground crew.
01:11:46 I would almost hope that this was a cyber attack because that would be really a simple answer to what the problem is.
01:11:55 I think the truth really lies in this ancient, nearly 40-year-old voice control system.
01:12:01 It's equivalent to your old AOL dial-up modem that you used to use to communicate and pass
01:12:08 emails, old multiplex systems that's running over a single copper line.
01:12:13 Secretary Duffy, when he came in, he attacked that problem first, and as a result, he's
01:12:18 gotten rid of almost half of that copper, of which the telephone companies are no longer
01:12:22 supporting.
01:12:23 The new system, the FAA Enterprise Network, is supposed to resolve that, but it's taking
01:12:28 far too long to roll out.
01:12:29 And unfortunately, all the money that's been invested into this network has not been put into place quick enough.
01:12:36 And I believe that this administration is doing that as fast as they can.
01:12:40 And I have no doubt that they will be as transparent as they've been on just about everything else.
01:12:45 We'll find out the absolute truth.
01:12:47 But our infrastructure, whether it's the electrical grid or this communication grid or other systems, are simply failing.
01:12:54 And I'm asking the question, $40 trillion in debt, where did the money go over the last four decades?
01:12:59 so it's a lot of money and it's it seems to me there's still a lot of in does anyone else remember
01:13:06 like like 30 40 years ago like 30 years ago aol would put out these like cds or discs and then
01:13:15 you would get like one hour of free internet and then like you would just collect all the discs
01:13:22 and then like you would just have unlimited dial-up because of like the cds like the fact
01:13:28 that this guy's mentioning AOL dial-up, I feel like I've gone back in time. That's wild. How old
01:13:36 is this guy? His communications team were saying about the comparison to 9-11. Watch.
01:13:44 The flights that are currently in the air, we have a ground stoppage. We still got to get the
01:13:48 flights out, right? And so we're going to be dealing with those case by case. I think you
01:13:54 said specific, it's a telecommunication outage. I'm not going to get ahead of FAA. That's their
01:14:00 lane to talk about. We were wanting to assure all the American people this isn't a safety to the
01:14:07 American people or another 9-11. I think that's what a lot of people are trying to make the
01:14:12 comparison to, and that's not the case. So, Mr. Bucci, on this, you heard that. Is that reassuring,
01:14:21 just informational? Which one? Yeah, it is reassuring. I was in the Pentagon on 9-11 in
01:14:28 the SecDef's office, and I remember the efforts to get all those planes on the ground. That was
01:14:33 our first concern, that and any other follow-on attacks. So our government's doing the right
01:14:40 thing to address this in the short term. Now we've got to figure out, one, how to get things
01:14:46 spun back up again quickly so we can return things to normal but at the same time we've got to do the
01:14:52 forensics well and completely because we don't want to miss anything and and that unfortunately
01:14:59 for most of us we want to know now and that's that's an unreasonable demand uh in reality it's
01:15:06 a perfectly normal feeling as citizens but we're going to have to be a little uh patient it could
01:15:13 be something more nefarious. We don't know yet. Let them find out before we start trying to guess
01:15:20 that's just not fruitful. It's okay to voice our concerns to them. That does help motivate them,
01:15:27 but it's not something you're going to find out, you know, before midnight tonight for sure.
01:15:33 Well, I think that the idea of this being nefarious is probably more impatience
01:15:40 on the part of the American people than reality. The fact is we are reliant on cloud systems now
01:15:49 for our communication for large government systems. And Gregory, the Pentagon is one of
01:15:56 the large government systems. And then, of course, the FAA critical. So we do rely on this. This is
01:16:02 the backbone of our communication system throughout the United States. So when something goes haywire,
01:16:09 everyone wants to run to the worst conclusion, but that's why once they have this briefing,
01:16:14 we hope within the end of the hour, we'll know a lot more. And I think people are going to be a
01:16:19 lot, you know, as far as I can see, people are going to be reassured. Gregory, do tell us just
01:16:24 informationally, what does the FAA have to see before it allows planes to begin taking off and
01:16:34 landing? They have to see and have the confidence that when a controller speaks into their
01:16:41 microphone, those voice commands go through their network and arrive at a transmitter and reaches
01:16:50 those pilots. How that's done and how they reboot the system, it's going to take a little bit of time
01:16:55 for them to gain that confidence that, yeah, they're assured that then launching all these
01:17:00 thousands of aircraft that are on the ground are going to be able to be communicated with
01:17:04 vectored, given directions, and then brought to their destination safely. The risk aversion
01:17:10 is in our favor, and I recognize the impatient that goes on. But the fact is, is that's so
01:17:15 critical for them to be able to be assured that those voice comms. And the one last thing I'll
01:17:20 tell you is that the president of the Comptroller's Union testified before Congress in March of last
01:17:25 year. He stated the challenges that were existing with the antiquated voice control system.
01:17:32 And here we are realizing this more than a year later, doing our very best to replace that system.
01:17:38 But the fact remains, we've got to move faster and we've got to do it quicker. And we've got
01:17:43 to bring this up to the modern standards that are secure and reliable. And again,
01:17:48 we all have to remember that this stop stoppage happened today, this afternoon.
01:17:53 but the ripple effect is going to go on for days. That's like, if it was one day, it's like,
01:18:00 okay, everyone can get figured out. But it goes on for days and days, even when it gets fixed,
01:18:06 that's when people get inconvenienced, businesses lose money. But the concern is for
01:18:11 the American people's safety. And I think the sooner the administration gets out and does a
01:18:16 press conference, the more reassured people will be because the only other experience we have with
01:18:21 this is 9-11, Mr. Bucci. That's the only other experience we have. So that's, that's why people
01:18:27 run to that, even though in this case, it does not look like that's anything. Gentlemen, we
01:18:33 appreciate both of you very much. Thank you very much. Okay, sure. All right, coming up more on the
01:18:38 FAA nationwide grounds. Yeah. So apparently, apparently, even though, even though the only
01:18:44 other time that this happened was 9 11 oh this time it's different because we don't want to be
01:18:51 islamophobic oh islamophobia right like it's absolutely insane since analyst raymond meanwhile
01:18:58 in new orleans with the latest from there raymond what can you tell us laura it's quite a scene i
01:19:04 was just at the dock and uh they threw me out of the the riverfront i was at the port they actually
01:19:11 have Coast Guard Harbor Pol
01:19:14 the area. Here's the amaz
01:19:16 miracle, all 130 so passen
01:19:21 heritage cruise liner wer
01:19:24 but no one was harmed. Th
01:19:27 them in area hospitals, b
01:19:30 the mayor here in New Orle
01:19:32 the miracle on the Mississ
01:19:34 is a miracle that all 130
01:19:37 were rescued. But the way
01:19:40 peered off course. They say it lost control. We don't quite know how, but it really, when you look at the trajectory of it, it came under the present city connection, which connects the east and the west bank in New Orleans, and then veered right into this T-boning, this cruise liner, this huge paddle loop. So we await the investigators. They were on their way from the NTSC to figure out what happened here. They, of course, are caught in the ground stop you talked about and are reporting on
01:20:10 all evening. So it'll be a few days until we figure out exactly what happens.
01:20:14 But the good news from New Orleans is all the passengers are safe.
01:20:18 Everybody's accounted for and they're making them comfortable in area hotels
01:20:22 and hopefully their lives will be back to normal like the rest of ours.
01:20:25 But Raymond, I don't understand. You can't get us over to the,
01:20:29 you can't get the shot over to the boat?
01:20:31 I sent the guys' pictures. They're pictures of it.
01:20:35 You'll see those in a moment.
01:20:36 But the New Orleans police just evicted me.
01:20:38 I was there for about 20 minutes, but they threw me out of that area.
01:20:42 I have pictures, which I sent, which you can put up, and video.
01:20:46 It's amazing.
01:20:47 This capsized ship, it's still there along the dock.
01:20:50 So the ship situation is important, and I feel for everyone.
01:20:55 But I want to get to a few super chats because there is a little bit of breaking news.
01:21:02 Look at this.
01:21:02 Look at this.
01:21:03 Let me, um, and I want to share, um, something that, uh, Omid said in a super chat earlier
01:21:10 that I hadn't shared yet.
01:21:12 Um, because Omid said a couple of hours, sorry, uh, half an hour ago, I can just feel how
01:21:20 excited the Azishi, remember guys, Azishi is the Iranian word for Durka.
01:21:25 So he's like, I can just feel how excited the Durkas are right now thinking they are 0.98
01:21:30 so powerful to infiltrate America finally. And here is a post from Laura Loomer describing exactly 1.00
01:21:40 that. So she says Iranian accounts, but of course, you know, Islamic accounts. So Islamic regime
01:21:46 accounts are now tweeting, suggesting they are responsible for the ground stop in the U.S. today. 0.96
01:21:52 Time for President Trump to finish the Islamic regime. They're not Iranian, they're Islamic. But 0.98
01:22:00 we are a pro Laura Loomer live stream here. And I appreciate everything that Laura Loomer has done
01:22:07 to raise awareness about the Iranian people fighting for freedom and democracy. But yes,
01:22:12 there you go. So these are a bunch of like Durka, Durka jihadi, um, accounts. Uh, so this account
01:22:20 is 293 followers, but, um, there you go. There you go. So the account is based in occupied Iran.
01:22:32 So you literally have accounts in occupied Iran who are on X and they are, um, threatening
01:22:40 terrorism against Americans. So Omid, you're absolutely correct. And guys, you're going to 1.00
01:22:47 expect to see a lot more of this on social media from Islamic regime accounts where they are, 0.93
01:22:53 you know, going to be going out there and be like, Oh, you know, you know, death to America,
01:22:59 Durka, Jihad, whatever. Um, but yeah, there you go. So, um, you can expect to see a lot more of
01:23:08 that. And let me just get back to, uh, Fox news really briefly. Um, let me get to some of your
01:23:16 other Q&As. And then I'll continue with the live stream. Ignati says, Goldie, now that the
01:23:27 Democrats are taking over Texas, you should visit us in MAGA, Wyoming to get your expensive cowboy
01:23:35 hat. You know what? Good idea. Good idea. As much as I love Texas, I don't know, man. Too many
01:23:43 Durkha's in Texas. Ooh, that's weird. I honestly, I would have never in my wildest dreams would I
01:23:52 have ever thought that Texas would go Democrat. And if Texas has gone Democrat, guys, that's like
01:24:02 a red flag. That is literally a red flag. Um, you guys have imported too many enemies into your
01:24:10 country. You've imported too many of them. Um, yeah. Um, my heart bleeds for Texas because I
01:24:20 love Texas, but, uh, yeah, Texas is not, you know, the Texas that I fell in love with is not the
01:24:28 Texas of today. Um, too many Durkhas in Texas. You need to kick them out. The Islamic regime, 1.00
01:24:37 Guys, the Islamic regime occupying Iran literally has, like, a Durka terrorist Texas school in Houston. 0.92
01:24:45 And it's, like, the craziest thing. 0.96
01:24:48 I don't know if you've seen it.
01:24:51 Let me find it.
01:24:52 Like, it's wild.
01:24:53 And it blows my mind that, um, it actually blows my mind that, that, um, there is like, um, this school, let me find it.
01:25:14 where's the video? And it's literally in Texas and it's a bunch of like jihadis and
01:25:21 they're, they're, they're praising the Islamic regime occupying Iran and it's in Texas.
01:25:31 It's the craziest thing. Um,
01:25:44 We find it.
01:25:50 Wait.
01:26:00 Where is it?
01:26:06 Where is it?
01:26:12 okay you know what let me just go back to fox news um because i want to find that video and
01:26:30 it's taking me a while um but let me just i'm gonna find the video i'll be right back local
01:26:34 airports and the local arrival areas um that's very concerning you would think if there was a
01:26:39 probably they would firewall off what occurred and allow the rest of the system to work.
01:26:44 The other thing that concerns me is they're down to 407 flights that are still in the air.
01:26:49 If they were thinking they're going to open up the airspace this evening,
01:26:53 there would be some kind of trickling out. Now, Dulles is running some flights,
01:26:59 international departures, mainly because they're able to run them due over Delaware
01:27:05 and out into the Atlantic
01:27:07 that isn't affected. Uh,
01:27:10 if I thought I was going
01:27:12 at 11 or midnight, um, th
01:27:15 to trickle some of these
01:27:17 another 407 airplanes on
01:27:20 going to have ramp proble
01:27:22 else. You would ask earl
01:27:25 technical part of what th
01:27:27 So let me, if I could expl
01:27:29 quickly. The first thing
01:27:31 they're going to get a me
01:27:33 their computer printout in a printer in the cockpit.
01:27:36 Then they're gonna say,
01:27:37 okay, we're gonna go with no communication policy.
01:27:41 So what they do is called AVEF,
01:27:44 and it's the assigned route.
01:27:46 Then if you've been vectored, they stay on that vector.
01:27:50 And then they, with the expected route,
01:27:53 and then finally there's a filed route
01:27:55 that occurred an hour prior to departure.
01:27:58 They stay on that and on the arrivals
01:28:00 that they know they're gonna receive.
01:28:02 the good news too is there's a thing in the airport in the airplane we take we call it it's a it's um
01:28:08 t cast but the one of the pilots call it a fish finder and so it actually can see around the
01:28:14 airplane 360 for about 40 to 60 miles all the airplanes up and down around us
01:28:22 wow well there's there's concern about the there's concern right now about
01:28:28 when we're going to hear for the administration, but mostly, I think people want to know,
01:28:34 are we okay? Is this a system that is just badly needed updates and we can't do the updates as
01:28:43 fast as they're needed? And if so, right, can we rely on the safety of our system now?
01:28:52 Yeah, that's probably true, Laura. I think, too, just to let you know, I was on a call earlier
01:28:57 that right after this occurred, I got a message that was with folks at the Pentagon, the State
01:29:03 Department, DHS, and other intel agencies were on a video conference call right within 40 minutes
01:29:12 of this event. So when Mullen says he's concerned, he has a right to be, and hopefully that it was
01:29:20 nothing nefarious, but just to let us know that the president was on point, the secretary was on
01:29:26 point. And they were, the national security apparatus, which I was involved with, was on
01:29:31 point 40 minutes after this. And Steve, you know, people are online joking about how their college
01:29:37 football teams won't make it to the game. I mean, that's like, okay, that's not fun, but it's not
01:29:44 the concern here. The concern is that we have an aviation system that is among the safest in the
01:29:51 world, if not the safest in the world. We can rely on it, but we have to get out there and
01:29:57 reassure the American people and make sure that this is not something that's going to continue
01:30:02 to pop up here and there. And how concerned are you that this is going to become a political issue
01:30:09 if things don't end up wrapping up and getting clarified and fixed soon?
01:30:15 Well, first and foremost, I already think it's becoming a political issue,
01:30:19 But the public should know, you're absolutely right.
01:30:22 We do have the safest aviation system in the world.
01:30:26 The public also needs to know, they're not just running these computers for air traffic
01:30:31 control on floppy disks.
01:30:33 There have been at least two companies that have been given multi-billion dollar contracts
01:30:38 in the very recent past, I'm talking the last couple of years, to upgrade the systems.
01:30:44 So the controllers are very well trained.
01:30:47 They're not going to put
01:30:49 seat that can't deal with
01:30:53 this. The primary focus fo
01:30:57 on safety. And as I mentio
01:31:00 the first thing they're g
01:31:03 going to be separating ou
01:31:05 based on time and of course
01:31:09 a lot more than they usul
01:31:11 to buy the controllers, y
01:31:13 little bit more. Well, it'
01:31:17 the pressure off the controllers. Once those 407 aircraft get on the ground, then as I mentioned,
01:31:24 it's a huge domino effect. The NFL moves their teams into position characteristically on Fridays.
01:31:31 It's not just the college teams. It's, you know, a huge number of not only airlines, but you're
01:31:39 dealing with medevac fli
01:31:43 all sorts of, uh, you kn
01:31:47 of aviation. So it's rea
01:31:51 know, very similar to 9
01:31:55 the system is deemed to b
01:31:58 be aware that, you know,
01:32:02 wants you to get to your
01:32:06 the number one concern for everyone concerned all right all right mike steve thank you both very
01:32:12 much and coming up from texas to la the nationwide ground stop hits the west coast we're gonna go
01:32:18 all right so speaking of texas guys speaking of texas i found the video took me a while but i
01:32:25 found the video remember i always come with receipts i always have the receipts it might
01:32:31 take me a while to find what it is that I'm looking for. But if anyone is wondering why
01:32:38 Texas fell to a bunch of like jihadi Muslims, well, this is what's been going on in Texas 1.00
01:32:46 for the last number of years. And anyone who speaks out about it is accused of Islamophobia. 1.00
01:32:53 So America, here you go. If you want to know why Texas fell, you're about to see why Texas fell.
01:33:01 I
01:33:15 I
01:33:31 all of this is a simulation only take it seriously and think about it think about
01:33:39 the event think about all the millions of Muslims together remember that this is
01:33:48 something that we are commemorating we are remembering you're following in the
01:33:52 footsteps. Oh, God, guys, guys, we're only one minute in. We're only one minute into an eight
01:34:13 minute video. So, um, what in the Alaho Akbar jihad is happening in Texas right now? Yeah. Yeah,
01:34:21 Guys, this is not saudi arabia. This is not occupied iran. This is texas. Yeah, this is texas
01:34:51 I mean, what in the Allah Akbar Dihad is happening here, right?
01:35:21 like, look, I don't know, man, super, super messed up, but, uh, yeah, yeah, I'll, I'll post,
01:35:33 I'll post the full link in, um, I'll post the full link in the chat, so if you guys want to
01:35:41 go watch the full eight-minute video yourselves, you're more than welcome to, but, uh, if anyone
01:35:46 is wondering why did texas why did texas become a democrat there's your answer right there right
01:35:55 there's your answer right there guys um yeah it's because when you mass import people into
01:36:04 your country who are against the ideals and values of your country yeah that's what happens it's
01:36:12 basically called an invasion. It's called an invasion. All right, let me get to a few more
01:36:18 of your super chats. And then we're going to get back to the Fox News breaking news live stream.
01:36:25 And we are waiting for an update from the White House. They were supposed to go live at 730.
01:36:32 They have not yet gone live. I am keeping an eye on that. Don't worry, guys. And yes,
01:36:37 um anyone who's wondering the salad situation we're still good haven't really touched my steak
01:36:44 yet but guys i'm not a vegan so it's all good um all right uh s marie's update says exactly i keep
01:36:52 saying the same thing the people in the usa won't get the truth because we would panic yeah you're
01:36:57 not gonna get the truth right away and again there's a reason that president trump hasn't
01:37:01 posted anything just yet. And I say this from political experience as a former politician.
01:37:09 He's not going to post like the more serious the situation is, the less likely you're going to have
01:37:15 him post something right away. So he's being briefed right now. He's probably in a situation
01:37:21 room. We also saw the headline on Fox News where they said Marco Rubio has been summoned to the
01:37:28 White House. Guys, if this was just like a random telecoms issue, it wouldn't be like a random
01:37:38 thing. Anyways. Since 9-11, the FAA says the ground stop was due to extraordinary circumstances
01:37:44 and for reasons of safety. And it's a temporary telecommunications outage being cited. President
01:37:51 Trump is at the White House monitoring the situation. He just spoke to Fox's Peter Ducey.
01:37:56 He said the ground stop does not seem to be a cyber attack and that nobody is taking credit for a cyber attack.
01:38:03 The president also telling Ducey that this seems to be an old issue with old broken stuff.
01:38:10 The FAA relies on that old equipment that they are trying to upgrade.
01:38:15 Millions of passengers are stranded across the country.
01:38:18 Some are sitting on planes for hours.
01:38:21 Fox News correspondent Natalie Chuck is at LAX.
01:38:24 Natalie, I cannot even imagine what LAX is today.
01:38:29 Usually on Fridays, it's not a place you want to be, but what about now?
01:38:35 Yeah, it's never necessarily ideal to be here, right, Laura?
01:38:38 But you mentioned those passengers who were stuck on flights.
01:38:41 We don't have to imagine what that was like because we actually have one here with us.
01:38:44 This is Nicolas. He flew in from New Zealand.
01:38:47 How long have you been flying, you said?
01:38:49 Well, my flight started today, but actually yesterday. So probably 26 hours now.
01:38:55 And you were actually on your flight. You were supposed to head to Chicago.
01:38:59 Tell me what happened.
01:39:00 So I was, we were already on my last flight at 1230, something like that.
01:39:05 And then the plane was full.
01:39:07 The captain said we need to be playing because there is some communications issues.
01:39:11 And well, some people stayed here.
01:39:13 And since then I've been here trying to find the hotel, see what happened.
01:39:16 I'm sorry for the young families.
01:39:18 with kids which are wandering, but the biggest issue is that no one knows
01:39:22 what's going on and why what's going through your mind when they say
01:39:25 there's a communication issue.
01:39:28 Look, we can think about many ways, but as a technical person, I think, okay,
01:39:34 something in the system is not working. So the right hand is not talking with
01:39:38 the left hand. And the interesting thing is that happened all over the
01:39:42 country and the poor people at the front line, they don't know what to do. So
01:39:47 There is no point of insisting with the people in the counter asking
01:39:52 questions that they simply have no answer. We met you over here kind of
01:39:57 dealing without everything, right? Trying to book another flight for
01:39:59 tomorrow, which you've done successfully so far. But what sort of
01:40:02 the hassle has it been for you? What has been your experience? Well, I travel
01:40:07 all year for business. I work in high tech, but I mean, if you cannot handle
01:40:11 these things, you cannot be a high tech entrepreneur. But the problem is that
01:40:15 the systems needs to work. People need to be in our side. So everything, I mean, you are the
01:40:20 kindest people that I found around here. I was struggling with a kiosk and I still need to find
01:40:26 a hotel, which is less than $1,000 per night. So the price gouging, it's a little bit outrageous.
01:40:31 Right, right. And yeah, you mentioned those, those hotel prices are really high. Thank you
01:40:34 so much. We're going to help you get booked in a hotel soon. We'll send it back to you right now,
01:40:38 Laura. All right, Natalie, thank you so much. Here with us again is Josh Gerard, commercial pilot.
01:40:43 But Josh, I know you've been monitoring all this, talking with your friends in the aviation community.
01:40:49 So when you're at 35,000 feet, and if comms go down, comms to the towers, what next?
01:40:59 You know, there's procedures in place, and every pilot, especially these commercial pilots, trains for that.
01:41:04 And it's likely that if those comms went down, once again, if radio comms went down, once that was discovered, you fall back on that training.
01:41:13 you have your clearance, you understand what you're supposed to be flying. You're going to
01:41:16 try these other means, whether it's through that CPDLC system that we talked about or through
01:41:21 transponder coding that we're communicating the fact that we have no comms and we continue on our
01:41:27 path, remain calm, continue what our clearance is, fly to our destination and eventually pick up
01:41:33 that radio traffic. But, you know, pilots trained for this. This happens in the simulators. It
01:41:39 happens every year, every
01:41:40 when they go back for recur
01:41:42 is one of the things that
01:41:44 so safe. I get it. The ame
01:41:47 traveling public was looki
01:41:49 am I safe traveling? But
01:41:51 infrastructure that makes
01:41:53 the crew, the controllers
01:41:56 the planes that make it sa
01:41:58 redundancies built in and
01:42:01 of caution, the prioritiz
01:42:03 public safety over conveni
01:42:06 it safe. Just a few hours
01:42:08 5,000 planes in the air, almost a million people traveling, and now we're down to 400.
01:42:14 We've gotten all those planes down safely, even despite what was seen as an absolute emergency
01:42:21 with communication. That is how safe the flying public is in the U.S. airspace.
01:42:27 Well, we're learning now that every flight from Europe coming in
01:42:33 is being suspended. So we've heard various reports that some planes, I guess, were cleared in
01:42:43 because it was so late when they got the notice, but that all aviation from Europe
01:42:49 has also been shut down. Unless when we get a briefing soon, we'll know whether or not that's
01:42:55 true. But I mean, again, the domestic implications to this, all the individual families we're seeing
01:43:02 who are impacted by this, but this has international implications. And it also, it does send a
01:43:09 message to the rest of the world, I think, that, you know, we put safety first. We're not going to
01:43:14 push it when we can't push it. But it also does show vulnerability to our system, which I think
01:43:20 President Trump, DHS, they've been trying to get this remedied as soon as possible, as has the
01:43:27 department of transportation. They absolutely have. And the need has definitely been defined. I mean, the government accountability office just came out with a report in September, identifying 76% of the FAA systems that were unsustainable. Over three quarters of the systems are unsustainable and need updating. The problem is, this isn't like road work on your local interstate where we can close the lane. This is quite honestly is we're having to rebuild the plane while we're flying.
01:43:55 and we have 5,000 fights every day.
01:43:58 You've been, okay, Josh, you've been invaluable tonight.
01:44:02 I love how she just like cuts him off.
01:44:04 I think this is important.
01:44:05 We will be getting a briefing soon from the White House,
01:44:08 from all the relevant administration officials.
01:44:12 I imagine Mullen, Duffy and others,
01:44:14 the president is serious about this.
01:44:16 They're gathering now in the briefing room.
01:44:18 This should be at any moment.
01:44:20 So stay here on Fox News for all the breaking details.
01:44:23 Thank you for watching.
01:44:24 whoa fox news alert we're expecting a briefing at the white house from homeland security and
01:44:31 the faa at any moment the faa has issued a nationwide ground stop planes aren't allowed
01:44:36 to take off and the ones in the sky are circling and trying to land at their destination this is
01:44:42 only the second time something like this has happened since 9 11. the agency is saying the
01:44:47 grounding is due to extraordinary circumstances and for reasons of safety secretary of transportation
01:44:53 Sean Duffy blaming a telecommunications issue and says they're investigating. The president
01:44:58 has told Fox that it doesn't seem like a cyber attack, but they haven't ruled anything out.
01:45:04 This started back at four o'clock Eastern and has lasted for four hours already.
01:45:09 Holman Security Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen addressing reporters from outside the White
01:45:13 House, telling people not to panic. There's no reason for the public to be afraid or scared
01:45:20 for your loved ones. This isn't a another 9-11. I just can't repeat that enough. People are making
01:45:27 that assumption because that's the last time we had a nationwide ground stoppage. This is a
01:45:32 telecommunication outage. This is much different. The FAA is slowly and gradually lifting
01:45:40 restrictions, which is great news, but still big concern. Some international flights going over
01:45:46 the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans are leaving. The Wall Street Journal reporting that telecom
01:45:51 issues have been coming back online at some air traffic facilities. Others are still in a total
01:45:58 blackout. Control towers and ground control still have eyes and ears and are helping flights land.
01:46:04 And pilots can still talk to other pilots in the air, but nationwide communications are on the
01:46:10 Fritz. All this is coming after a tanker lost control and crashed into a cruise ship on the
01:46:17 Mississippi River this afternoon. A major rescue operation has already taken place and we'll have
01:46:22 more on that later in the show. And yesterday, an adage wiped out all Microsoft's email for
01:46:28 pretty much most of the day. So what's going on? Nobody knows. Senior White House correspondent
01:46:35 Peter Doocy joins us now. What's going on, Peter?
01:46:40 Jesse, we think that we're going to have Sean Duffy and Mark Wayne Mullen out here any minute.
01:46:45 To the point that you were just making, though, about that outage of Microsoft yesterday, the global email outage,
01:46:51 I asked DHS Secretary Mullen about that earlier, and if it's just a coincidence that that happened one day before this huge GroundStop-related outage.
01:47:01 and he said they don't think that these two things are connected but we know that a lot of people who
01:47:06 are watching this show right now are skeptical because it just seems like there is something
01:47:12 that the government knows about what is causing all of this and we hope to get answers uh to those
01:47:18 questions and basically what we're left with here at the white house is uh two choices right it's
01:47:24 It's either some kind of a cyber attack or it is a system that is relying on old broken stuff.
01:47:31 And it has broken down. Which one is worse? We might get an assessment on that.
01:47:37 I spoke to the president a few minutes ago.
01:47:40 Old broken stuff is the term that he used when he was explaining what he thinks happened here.
01:47:45 He said this does not seem at this moment to be a cyber attack.
01:47:51 And he says that nobody is taking credit for a cyber attack, which is something that would presumably happen if it was a cyber attack.
01:47:58 But he said that the nation's air traffic relies on a system of 55-year-old stuff and that there is some old broken stuff in the system that he says he is trying to upgrade.
01:48:09 And if that is the case, it has not been upgraded.
01:48:13 And that's where we're at.
01:48:14 But again, it's been a couple hours.
01:48:16 We have been told that nobody is in danger that is in the air right now.
01:48:21 But if it is a simple telecommunications problem, what caused it?
01:48:26 And why hasn't it been turned back on?
01:48:29 Why are flights still grounded, including, as Laura Ingram was just talking about,
01:48:34 ones that are coming in from Europe?
01:48:35 So it seems like there's a lot we don't know.
01:48:39 We actually pretty much know nothing.
01:48:41 So this is going to be a pretty big briefing.
01:48:43 Did the president sound angry when you spoke to him?
01:48:46 no and this is an important point it did not sound like he was frazzled from getting all
01:48:52 these constant updates that they tell us that he's been getting uh he was calling me back
01:48:56 because i called him earlier trying to figure out what's going on uh actually something else that's
01:49:03 not funny but i should mention now i also called the transportation secretary and a few minutes
01:49:10 later he called me back i feel like we need and the first thing he said is oh peter i did not mean
01:49:14 to call you back. I don't
01:49:16 have any info yet. Great.
01:49:18 he said that he would be
01:49:20 and so he's probably too
01:49:22 to talk to you all together.
01:49:24 probably we're going to get
01:49:26 at the same time. All right.
01:49:28 to you soon. Thank you so
01:49:30 Fox Business Correspondent
01:49:32 live at Chicago O'Hare still
01:49:36 on the plane. What's new?
01:49:40 Unfortunately, Jesse, not a
01:49:42 is new. We boarded this plane just before two o'clock this
01:49:46 afternoon, central time, and we're still on it. So we're
01:49:50 pushing about five hours now that we taxied out. We thought
01:49:55 we were going to take off. Pilot went on the intercom and
01:49:58 said, that's not going to happen, at least not right now,
01:50:00 because there's a ground stop here at O'Hare because of
01:50:03 some telecoms issues. Shortly after that, he got back on.
01:50:07 I'm not an expert in. Well, this is a nationwide problem and
01:50:11 said, Well, this is a nationwide problem that we're dealing with. And it out. We thought we
01:50:19 were going to take off. Pilot went on the intercom and said, that's not going to happen,
01:50:24 at least not right now, because there's a ground stop here at O'Hare because of some telecoms
01:50:28 issues. Shortly after that, he got back on and said, Well, this is a nationwide problem that
01:50:34 we're dealing with. And since then, we haven't really gotten that many updates other than to
01:50:40 a operations team hasn't forgotten about us they know that we are still on this flight they've
01:50:46 been trying to figure out how to get us back to our gate so we can then deplane and get everyone
01:50:51 who's been sitting on this plane for five hours off um and last we heard they told us we were a
01:50:59 the top priority um but but here we are still um and you know i think it's important to note jesse
01:51:05 yeah everyone on this flight or at least a good majority of people are trying to get somewhere
01:51:10 and there are flights already booked for tomorrow to the same so apparently rose is going to cover
01:51:16 all of this on her channel on on sunday um so she's going to cover this on her live stream on
01:51:24 sunday but i'm like rose just just come now because there's a whole bunch of like random
01:51:29 airplane stuff that's happening she's literally an aerospace engineer and she's designed airplanes
01:51:36 so if anyone knows like all the airplane stuff it's rose so i don't know like we need rose here
01:51:45 don't you guys agree thanks uh peanuts what's up she says she'll come soon good part come now i
01:51:53 would say it's pretty quiet honestly and i feel kind of bad that i'm talking so loudly
01:51:58 over everyone i think at this point it's just frustration people want to get off um we were
01:52:03 hoping maybe for some you know free drinks or something but we found an offer for water two
01:52:09 times and biscoff cookies one time i love biscoff cookies but they can't solve these types of
01:52:15 problems where is rose free rose the other passengers annoyed that you're talking
01:52:20 to these hosts on television every single 15 minutes probably but they've been kind enough
01:52:28 not to tell me that in fact this is crazy the pilot actually told me he saw one of my reports
01:52:34 so that shows you where they're getting some of their information from getting more beer
01:52:38 messenger back in the back of the plane came up and told me uh he's been watching and he he said
01:52:44 every time you went on the announcements that you were discussing sounded exactly like the
01:52:49 announcements I was hearing. And that's when he realized he was on the same flight as me.
01:52:54 All right. Well, hang in there. Hopefully everybody remains calm. See you soon. Great.
01:53:00 So far. So good. Thanks, Jesse. Arthur Rosenberg is an aviation expert.
01:53:05 Oh, Rosenberg. That's a sign.
01:53:08 Okay. Arthur Rosenberg, that's a sign because Rose Gamari is joining soon.
01:53:14 The phrase that came to my mind was, he thinks thou protest too much.
01:53:19 The Transportation Secretary, Secretary of Homeland Security, told us that it wasn't a cyber attack, it wasn't artificial intelligence.
01:53:28 There was a new system that went online, or they tried to a few days ago.
01:53:32 They've told us what it isn't, they think, maybe, but they haven't told us what it is.
01:53:38 And given the fact that we're three or four hours downstream for when this debacle started, I would venture to say that they probably don't know.
01:53:46 But most important thing here is, and I want the flying public to know, whether you're in the air, on the ground, everyone is safe.
01:53:54 Just because Air Route Traffic Control Center went offline, 22 of those throughout the United States, doesn't mean, and in fact, the tower controllers, tower radars, were alive and well and functioning.
01:54:06 And that's how they were able to get all these planes safely on the ground, from thousands down to a few hundred.
01:54:12 It's a major inconvenience.
01:54:13 It's going to take a week or so to get this thing back online once they crank it up again.
01:54:19 But the most important thing, safety first above all else.
01:54:22 So, Arthur, what is your level of concern if the guys in charge of running transportation and homeland security in the country don't know what's going on?
01:54:34 Yeah, well, look, we could shift gears and get into a whole conspiracy, nefarious situation
01:54:43 and pontificate on what we think happened.
01:54:46 But that's something for another day.
01:54:48 We have to deal with the here and now.
01:54:51 We're waiting for the people in charge who we've entrusted our well-being, our elected
01:54:55 officials, the president, to come online and to explain to the American people exactly
01:55:01 what we know it is.
01:55:04 There probably is an equipment failure,
01:55:07 old copper wire trying to link up to new cable.
01:55:12 It could be a whole panoply of things,
01:55:14 but the system worked.
01:55:15 We got everybody safely on the ground.
01:55:17 We're all anxiously awaiting for our elected officials
01:55:20 to tell us what the hell is going on.
01:55:22 So the planes that were in the air during this ground stop,
01:55:27 what's the process of them landing?
01:55:30 I mean, there's only a certain amount of fuel.
01:55:33 there's only a certain amount of space on these runways?
01:55:37 Yeah, so first, to get the plane safely on the ground.
01:55:40 If you're on route, you're at 35,000 feet
01:55:43 and your voice communications go out,
01:55:45 the planes are still equipped with navigational equipment.
01:55:49 The pilots can still communicate through a data link system
01:55:53 with the air traffic controls.
01:55:54 It's kind of a fancy texting system,
01:55:56 certainly not as convenient
01:55:58 or as efficient as voice communications.
01:56:01 They're all trained to proceed on their flight-cleared route to their terminal destination.
01:56:07 They switch over when they're within about 50 miles to the tower.
01:56:12 The tower can see them on radar and talk to them, and they're all sequenced in safely for a landing.
01:56:18 So it happens. It's a very organized dance. No one is at risk.
01:56:25 Is it a little disconcerting that we had a nationwide grounding of 22 air route traffic control centers that weren't functioning properly?
01:56:33 Absolutely.
01:56:34 Absolutely is right.
01:56:35 That's an understatement.
01:56:36 Thank you so much.
01:56:38 Let's go over to Brian Dean Wright.
01:56:39 He's a former CIA officer and host of The Wright Report.
01:56:44 So, I mean, just in the last week and now this, what do you think is going on?
01:56:49 Well, you nailed it at the top of the show.
01:56:51 you laid out the three things that I think folks need to focus on to put this into context.
01:56:56 Not only do we have this issue of the FAA grounding, yesterday we had the Microsoft
01:57:00 meltdown. Still no answers there. The other piece coming out of Louisiana, just outside of,
01:57:05 of course, New Orleans, this ship running into this river cruiser. Why is that alarming? Well,
01:57:11 we know that about a couple of weeks ago, Iran took over an oil tanker out in the Atlantic Ocean
01:57:16 into the Gulf of America. Islamic regime. So we know that Iranian cyber hackers are attacking 0.91
01:57:21 our boats and driving them into other boats. So we have this environment of risk is I called it
01:57:26 and we're having these very strange coincidences, coincidences, I guess we could call it. So
01:57:30 that's what I would encourage folks to think about not in isolation, the FAA moment and this issue,
01:57:35 but in fact everything that we're seeing over the past 24 hours and how it all starts to fit
01:57:39 together. That's how Intel officers think individual pieces of Intel. What they tell
01:57:42 you when you put them together? And Jesse, what I would offer is that we have a number of things
01:57:47 that we could be looking at in terms of culprits, in terms of national or geopolitical issues.
01:57:51 We, of course, got the war with Iran. We are, in fact, in war. The IRGC promising less than a
01:57:56 month ago that they would shock the world with what they can do. That is not just saboteurs
01:58:00 on the ground. That is also cyber attacks. We've already seen that, certainly in that ship that I
01:58:04 mentioned, but also attacking our refrigerators on American bases, on refrigerators throughout
01:58:08 Europe. And they did that in Europe as well. We also have the war with Russia or in Ukraine.
01:58:12 the CIA has bases inside of Ukraine as of this very moment. We are targeting Russian individuals
01:58:18 throughout Ukraine and inside of Russia itself. We are at war with Moscow. Would we expect that 0.88
01:58:23 the Russians might do something to us in return? Of course we would expect that, certainly in a 0.95
01:58:27 covert way. And then indeed we have this issue with China, don't we? We are, if not in an actual 0.72
01:58:32 war, we are certainly in a covert war with China, and that is all around the world, and that includes
01:58:36 cyber issues. And of course, we have seen over the past five days, the NVIDIA CEO coming under
01:58:42 fire very clearly has more girlfriends you can shake a stick at. One of them being a certainly 0.98
01:58:47 Chinese national. And we know that, of course, the Chinese recruit their own citizens either by
01:58:51 will or by force. So we have this incredible penetration inside of our economy by the Chinese 0.95
01:58:57 and in our AI related economy. And then that's the other piece that I hope that we're all
01:59:02 understanding this moment, this historic moment of the AI revolution and how it is bearing down
01:59:07 on this country and indeed this world. Earlier this week, we had a number of cyber defense firms
01:59:12 saying to us that they're being inundated by companies around the nation asking, can you help
01:59:17 us prepare for these cyber attacks? We're getting hit. And these cyber defenders, the firemen are
01:59:22 saying that we are so over inundated by these requests that we're not able to catch up. We
01:59:27 You're having to turn away clients and customers.
01:59:29 So is it possible that what we are seeing in Louisiana tonight, what we have seen around the country with the FAA, what we saw with Microsoft,
01:59:37 we are hearing a lot of people say that it's not the AI piece, but I think that it is foolish to say that that is an impossibility.
01:59:43 And instead think that it's just a bunch of old equipment.
01:59:46 While that is certainly plausible, I think it's also reckless to not think about the broader threat environment in which we live.
01:59:52 So that's what I would offer everybody tonight and think about one of the things that Fox News has done such a great job on is, you know, warning everybody, look, don't panic, but make sure you're prepared with governors like Ron DeSantis saying, look at our website and think about a category five hurricane hitting you.
02:00:07 That's how you should be thoughtfully prepared right now.
02:00:10 Think about a number of days, if not weeks, to even a couple of months to make sure that you have enough food and water and preparatory environment in your cupboards and whatnot, making sure that you're ready for any of these threats to hit the homeland.
02:00:21 So that's what I would encourage us to use this moment to do as we think about all of these puzzle pieces and how they might fit together.
02:00:28 It's not about panic, but it is about thoughtful preparation.
02:00:31 Brian, Dean Wright, incredible analysis and great advice, to be honest with you.
02:00:37 Thank you so much. A lot to think about there.
02:00:39 You bet. 0.99
02:00:39 Let's go to Fox News correspondent, Natalie Chuck, who's live at LAX.
02:00:43 How's LA doing, Natalie?
02:00:47 Hi, Jesse.
02:00:48 I mean, typically people, if we were honest, don't want to be at LAX, but tonight, especially, there is a lot of confusion here, right?
02:00:54 People wondering when is their flight going to take off, if it's going to take off tonight, where are they going to stay if they need to find a hotel?
02:01:01 One couple we spoke with landed here from Taipei, needed to connect to Phoenix.
02:01:05 That flight was canceled, so they're going to rent a car and drive to Phoenix tonight.
02:01:09 A lot of tired passengers out here, and now we're joined here with Renee.
02:01:13 Renee, what's going on with you tonight?
02:01:15 Well, hi, Natalie.
02:01:16 Thanks for having me.
02:01:17 it's a very disturbing situation obviously numerous flights have been canceled there have
02:01:22 been numerous airlines that have been in this situation of a lot of uncertainty and so that's
02:01:28 where were you headed tonight so i was flying back to houston texas and obviously i got caught up in
02:01:33 having flights canceled because of the situation and hopefully we can get through this asap so
02:01:37 what's your plan tonight now so we're gonna have to stay um we planned on leaving but due to the
02:01:43 the situation. We're going to stay and hopefully we're praying that things
02:01:46 will get better for tomorrow. L.A. is not home to you, I'm assuming. It's not, but I do come
02:01:51 often for some projects and some work that I do have out in the L.A. area. So, yes, and we're
02:01:55 hearing over the intercom right now. United Airlines not able to check in or receive any
02:02:05 luggage right now, Jesse. So, although it seems pretty calm out here on the side out of security,
02:02:11 we've heard it's a bit chaotic inside. I don't know. Did you go through security at all? I did.
02:02:16 I was able to get to security at that time when we got in around 12, maybe 12, a little before 12
02:02:22 noon, this had not occurred. As soon as we had gotten in around maybe one, that's when the chaos
02:02:28 started happening about flight cancellations. What was it like in there when that happened?
02:02:31 Well, it was very confusing. A lot of people didn't understand why flights were being canceled.
02:02:36 People thought flights were being delayed, but obviously this has been just a much bigger issue
02:02:40 than just cancellations this is this could be even be a potential cyber attack yeah and of course
02:02:44 we're still waiting for an update soon from the white house renee thank you so much appreciate
02:02:47 you taking the time nice to meet you travel safely uh making your way back to houston
02:02:51 again jesse a lot of people out here in lax curious if they should just stay the night here
02:02:56 uh get really comfortable try to find a hotel which we've been told that hotels nearby are up
02:03:01 to a thousand dollars hotels that are typically three hundred dollars now one thousand so no no
02:03:06 find a polka band that will take you where you need to go in a budget rental truck so much do
02:03:12 the home alone thing and we're still awaiting a breast briefing over at the white house we're
02:03:16 expecting homeland security and transportation duffy and mullen to speak by the way the press
02:03:22 briefing was supposed to start at 7 30 p.m eastern it's currently 8 20 p.m eastern so
02:03:29 So a lot of filler news, a lot of filler news happening.
02:03:34 Oh my gosh, guys.
02:03:37 Oh my gosh.
02:03:38 Look who just joined us.
02:03:42 Hi.
02:03:43 Oh my God.
02:03:44 That's so funny.
02:03:47 No, you didn't.
02:03:52 Oh my God.
02:03:53 You have your plane and everything.
02:03:54 I do.
02:03:59 oh i'm so honored guys who look look who joined us
02:04:06 guys what you don't see is that every time the intro is playing behind the scenes me
02:04:16 and goldie are just dancing like this with our planes
02:04:19 in honor of rose everyone that's so funny
02:04:33 we need to add your live stream though i don't think you added it
02:04:45 i don't know i don't know how to do it
02:04:48 i'll add it right now
02:05:15 guys we have our resident aerospace engineer here right now and i'm so excited
02:05:23 you're so funny oh my gosh i love this
02:05:27 guys go make sure to watch on rose's channel to support her
02:05:38 guys watch out she she will give you a lot of information about the anti-drug of 4 000
02:05:45 preaching is never done guys it's never done it's an ongoing process
02:06:01 there we go wow thanks for that intro goldie um you know what i'm so honored to have you here rose
02:06:09 because um i mean i could not think of a better person to join us tonight than you because you
02:06:17 literally have you know you're an aerospace you know engineer by by experience um and you've
02:06:24 literally worked on airplanes you've worked on uh you know all the aviation stuff and you're also
02:06:31 my sister so you know you're super smart guys by the way rose is a smart one so if you're not
02:06:37 following her make sure to go to her channel her youtube channel give her a follow um i'll put the
02:06:43 link to her youtube channel um in the live stream chat so that you guys all see it but um and and
02:06:51 And her YouTube channel is called The Gamma Ray Report.
02:06:55 And I'm so proud of her because her channel is growing exponentially. 0.62
02:07:00 And you know, she's just a smart cookie. 0.93
02:07:02 She's just a smart cookie. 1.00
02:07:03 I pick after you.
02:07:04 You know, I learned from the best.
02:07:05 No, no, no.
02:07:06 I'm, I'm the black sheep.
02:07:08 I'm the one that just, you know, I'm the, I'm the geopolitical analyst, but you actually,
02:07:13 you know, STEM and science and like all of that, like, you know, math stuff, like one
02:07:18 plus one equals two and whatever right so are you sure about that yeah anyway so okay while we're
02:07:26 waiting for um the press briefing from the white house um as you know i don't i don't want your
02:07:35 political perspective because i'm here to give sort of the political and i mean if you want to
02:07:39 give your political analysis you can but i know i don't know if you guys want to hear that
02:07:43 i mean i would love to but uh um but from you know from like an aerospace engineering
02:07:51 you know perspective someone who's actually worked in the aviation industry what do you
02:07:58 think is going on and again this is all theory right so none of this is confirmed right now
02:08:04 yeah well i mean at this point all we know is you know something related to communications um
02:08:12 for air traffic control, communication is obviously very, very important. So air traffic
02:08:20 control, it's, it's a largely distributed network of, um, controllers. It's, it's not just one
02:08:27 person who's, you know, controlling everything in the sky. So you have things like ground control
02:08:32 where, you know, uh, people are managing the movement of aircraft on taxiways and other
02:08:38 controlled airport services. You have tower controllers, people in those towers that kind
02:08:45 of manage the runway operations and takeoffs and landing and nearby airport traffic. And then you
02:08:51 have approach and departure controllers as well. And then all these en route controllers that kind
02:08:57 of help navigate the airplane as it's moving across the United States. And in the US, there
02:09:04 22 regional on route control centers that are responsible for a large portion of that controlled
02:09:11 airspace. So if there's any sort of impact with communication and actually being able to
02:09:18 communicate with pilots and helping with all of that navigation, you know, a good first step would
02:09:25 be to ground the aircraft because, you know, it would help mitigate potential risk and potential
02:09:32 accidents that could be, that could be happening. So, you know, we, we've seen the reports and
02:09:41 they were like, okay, the last time this happened was 9-11. And then there was something, you know,
02:09:45 that was like, you know, in 2023, um, what do you think is happening right now? And I, again,
02:09:55 Like, this is totally, I know that you, you know, whatever answer you give, it's all speculation at this point.
02:10:04 But, you know, speaking from, like, someone who has this professional experience, and given that we've also heard that apparently there's been, like, some announcement of, like, DEFCON or something.
02:10:19 Oh, has there?
02:10:21 I think so.
02:10:22 I don't know.
02:10:22 I mean, there's so many rumors going around right now. But it's just, there's so much information,
02:10:31 there's so much rumors. And the way that the media is portraying this, they're making it seem as if
02:10:38 guys, no need to panic. Everything is all good. But you know, just in case, this could be a
02:10:45 terrorist attack. And we just saw that in the previous Fox News report where you had someone
02:10:53 speaking about that and then the reporter cut them off because it felt like they didn't want
02:10:59 people to panic. But maybe aside from what's happening right now, maybe just from your
02:11:06 personal experience what would be some of the um top situations where um all flights would be
02:11:17 grounded like what are the top scenarios where a situation like this could actually happen and
02:11:23 do you actually think that this is like you know just old old technology you know at this point
02:11:32 like there's so much speculation and yeah it's it's it's so hard to tell it is very hard to tell
02:11:38 i mean you said um homeland security is involved did you did you mention that earlier well yeah
02:11:45 homeland security but also marco rubio so marco rubio has been summoned back to the white house
02:11:50 and he's on his way to the white house right now okay so i mean like if if we for the sake of
02:11:56 speculation um it you know technically this could be a cyber attack but you know i do want to
02:12:05 distinguish what's technologically possible from like what we actually know happened um but like
02:12:14 just thinking about air traffic control so they're they're not just speaking to pilots over radios
02:12:20 you know behind the scenes you have enormous networks of telecommunication infrastructure
02:12:25 and computers and software data connections you also have surveillance systems so all of those
02:12:32 components need to be working together now if you have a major failure in a shared part of that
02:12:39 particular network it could affect all of all of the connections that are happening and all of that
02:12:45 coordination that failure could be you know caused by something relatively mundane like
02:12:51 you know a software update gone wrong which is apparently allegedly what happened with the
02:12:55 microsoft issue yesterday as well microsoft will be releasing a full report on that but you know
02:13:01 it could be something mundane like that or some of these old broken systems um but it could also
02:13:07 be theoretically caused by malicious activity such as a cyber attack targeting important network
02:13:14 infrastructure um again it's too soon to say what what is causing it but i mean i am wary of the
02:13:24 fact that Homeland Security is out, maybe it's out of an abundance of caution. Um, and you know,
02:13:29 sometimes you just want to be better safe than sorry. Um, or it could be old broken systems.
02:13:37 Okay. You know what? I actually want to ask chat GPT something right now. Um,
02:13:43 because I'm curious to know, let's, I just want to see, um, when there was, uh, um,
02:13:51 yeah go ahead yeah i'm just thinking like if let's let's break it down into
02:14:20 like the available possibilities potentially of like what could be causing this so
02:14:26 number one could be uh like a software update failure similar potentially to what happened
02:14:32 with microsoft yes yesterday there could be a critical infrastructure failure so um let's say
02:14:40 there was some sort of shared telecommunications provider which was the the backbone of this
02:14:45 network that could have failed um it could be a cyber attack or an intrusion so an attacker
02:14:54 potentially compromising some sort of network infrastructure um or it could be failed backup
02:15:02 or redundancy systems as well so um you know a primary failure could become much more serious
02:15:10 if you don't have the necessary backup systems um that aren't like really able to kind of take over
02:15:17 as designed and there are multiple shared systems that um rely on that same dependency as well
02:15:27 yeah sales backup absolutely so you know just based on what you're saying i just looked this up
02:15:34 um because i wanted to know what happened because everyone's talking about not just 9 11 i mean we
02:15:39 know what happened on 9 11 obviously a terrorist attack that makes sense it was you know the you
02:15:45 know whatever um the door cause goldie apparently they're talking now in the trump thing oh are they
02:15:51 did they start okay i don't know people in the chatter thing okay okay working through that
02:15:57 process our teams are working this is what um the leadership of president trump looks like
02:16:04 by the organization and the team he's put together, we're built to handle crisis like this.
02:16:10 And that's exactly what we're doing. We're moving at an unprecedented pace as a whole
02:16:18 of government to make sure that we are doing the public justice by making sure everybody is safe,
02:16:27 which everybody is. We are working with the airports, with the communities,
02:16:32 with the cities, the states, to make sure those passengers that may find themselves in need.
02:16:39 FEMA has activated their centers to make sure that there's no medication that is being missed.
02:16:45 If it is, we're going to have people for them to reach out to.
02:16:49 The airport has got a direct number to reach out to us.
02:16:53 We can provide that medication for them working through the state.
02:16:57 So right now, things seem to be working, as we can say, in the right direction.
02:17:07 As you can see to my right, I have Secretary Sean Duffy, who is here to provide the update on FEMA, where we're at and where we're going.
02:17:18 Once Sean is completed with his update, then we will be happy to take questions from everybody.
02:17:25 I just want to reiterate this. The public was never at danger through this process.
02:17:32 There was never any lives at risk. There was no flights at risk. FAA was able to handle it.
02:17:42 We did it out of an abundant of caution. But I do understand the Internet traffic and where all these conspiracies start running towards.
02:17:51 I just can't say this enough. All your loved ones.
02:17:54 We are working to resolve the issue and we hope operations up and going at normal at some point.
02:18:04 So with that, I'll turn it over to Secretary Duffy.
02:18:07 Thank you, Mark Wayne, and good night to everybody.
02:18:11 First, I want to thank you for your partnership and assistance.
02:18:15 Mark Wayne has been great.
02:18:17 Stephen Miller put together all of the intelligence assets of the White House.
02:18:22 We were in multiple times talking to the president about what was happening in the airspace.
02:18:28 Complete engagement by President Trump's team.
02:18:31 So just I want to walk through what happened today.
02:18:33 So at 3.36 p.m., we experienced instability for our radar and our communications and our centers and our TRACONs across the country.
02:18:43 So if you don't know this, at airports, we have towers.
02:18:47 Did he say 6.30?
02:18:48 The next run out is a TRACON.
02:18:49 After that, we have en route centers.
02:18:51 No, he said shortly after we started to have inconsistency in the data from the radars and our communication with with airplanes.
02:19:00 And we have procedures for this. Our pilots are well trained. Our air traffic controllers are well trained.
02:19:06 And at that point, we issued a ground stop. We had over three thousand five hundred airplanes in the air.
02:19:11 They all engaged. And last time I looked, we had less than four hundred in the airspace as they were all coming into safely land.
02:19:19 and we navigated it with our well-known procedures that we have when these incidents happen.
02:19:27 I'm going to talk about where we're at now, but before I do that, when we shut down the airspace,
02:19:31 oftentimes there are critical movements that have to take place, whether it's medevac,
02:19:35 there's cargo operations that are moving critical medicines that save people's lives.
02:19:40 We didn't lose all telecom. We didn't lose all radar, but that instability,
02:19:45 because of abundance of caution and making sure we keep the American flyer safe,
02:19:48 We did the ground stop, but we were going to allow those life saving movements to still occur as well as with law enforcement as well.
02:19:57 So what happened? Right. I've heard a lot of the rumors like Mark Wayne has.
02:20:01 But what we have is an incredibly old air traffic control system.
02:20:06 I think every single one of your networks have covered the president and myself talking about this for the last two years.
02:20:14 The president for the last year has been asking Congress to fully fund a full build of a brand new air traffic control system.
02:20:23 So we have TDM telecom.
02:20:26 So this is analog telecom.
02:20:28 Our switches, our routers actually got overloaded with data and they went down.
02:20:34 And I shouldn't say they went down.
02:20:36 They started to give us inconsistency in the data from those from those routers.
02:20:41 And because of that, we shut the system down.
02:20:44 Now, I have already replaced some of those switches with President Trump, and our new IP switches did not go down.
02:20:51 It's the old hardware that went down.
02:20:54 And I think the question for the American people is, do you want your Congress to fund this?
02:21:00 President Trump has asked for the money.
02:21:03 He's asked the Congress on a bipartisan approach to say, give us the resources to build a state-of-the-art air traffic control system.
02:21:11 Let's not do a patchwork, a fix to a system that's critical for every single family.
02:21:18 It's not red. It's not blue. It's not Democrat. It's not Republican.
02:21:21 It's American. Give us the money to fix it.
02:21:25 Now, if you look to the past administrations going back 25 years,
02:21:28 $15 billion has been given to the FAA to fix this air traffic control system.
02:21:35 And guess what? Barely anything was done.
02:21:38 We had a down payment. President Trump asked for it in the one big, beautiful bill of $12.5 billion.
02:21:45 We are building in that $12.5 billion. That portion of the bill will be done by the time President Trump leaves office.
02:21:52 We are moving at a speed that has never been seen before with regard to the FAA.
02:21:57 But that's a partial funding.
02:22:00 I think America demands that the Congress give the rest of the resources to finish the bill.
02:22:05 and I think the Congress at a point looked to the history of the FAA and said we don't trust you
02:22:13 well with President Trump and what we've done I think they do trust because what we've done
02:22:20 with that first tranche of money and so with a brand new state-of-the-art system you won't have
02:22:26 these outages so what you experienced today but you can think back many of you covered the story
02:22:30 from a year and a half ago we had outages in Newark multiple outages in Newark this is a
02:22:35 continual problem that we have and it should be fixed. And so what we want to do, I've asked,
02:22:44 the president's asked for $30 billion. I want $50 billion. And by the way, if you look at how
02:22:49 much money congressmen, Peter, you've covered Congress, they waste a lot of money. What's
02:22:54 more important than having an air traffic control system that actually works? And so the president
02:22:59 has said, you know what? Let's finish this job. New hardware, new software, new telecommunication.
02:23:07 Many of our towers are almost 100 years old. Our air traffic controllers have leaky roofs,
02:23:13 air conditioning that doesn't work. They're high in the air. Their elevators don't work.
02:23:16 Their roofs leak. I want new towers. We should also invest in many of the airports around the
02:23:23 country that, frankly, many of them are embarrassing. Let's get the money. Let's invest.
02:23:28 So we never have to come at 8.30 at night and have a press conference on why air travel was shut down, why we have tens of thousands of people in airports separated from their families without any knowledge of where they're going to sleep tonight.
02:23:45 Now, you probably picked up that we've identified the problem.
02:23:50 We've got our centers and our TRACONs operational right now.
02:23:52 And so at 8.15 tonight, Eastern time, we've opened up the airspace.
02:23:58 now does that mean every flight is going to fly right now it's going to be slow right so if if
02:24:04 you're watching you're at an airport check with your airline it depends on do we have crews
02:24:09 available do we have pilots and flight attendants available to fly your flight we're going to try
02:24:14 to move as many of those as we can tonight if we have the capacity with crews to to move those
02:24:19 flights if not we're going to start tomorrow morning with our airline partners moving those
02:24:25 aircraft, but it's going to take us some time to unwind what's happened this afternoon. Finally,
02:24:32 with general aviation, if we have aircraft that's moving six people, that's a lower priority.
02:24:41 But this weekend, we have movements of aircraft that are general aviation that might have
02:24:47 60, 80, 100 people on those aircraft. We are going to give those aircraft a priority.
02:24:54 So hopefully tomorrow we are going to start to see a far better movement.
02:24:59 But we'll take your questions.
02:25:01 This is an emergency.
02:25:03 This is an emergency.
02:25:05 I want Congress to give us emergency funding.
02:25:08 This is bipartisan.
02:25:09 This is American.
02:25:10 I want $50 billion.
02:25:12 President Trump is a builder.
02:25:14 He's going to build this network and deliver for the American people.
02:25:18 But the president can't deliver for America unless the Congress delivers the money to make it happen.
02:25:23 So with that, we're happy to take your questions, Peter.
02:25:26 Secretary Duffy, what you're describing, routers overloaded with data that then start to show instability.
02:25:34 That sounds like something that could be caused by a cyber attack.
02:25:39 Can you say with 100% certainty that this was not caused by a cyber attack or a rogue AI?
02:25:46 I'm going to give this to Mark Wayne.
02:25:49 All right.
02:25:50 There's nothing completely certain right now.
02:25:53 It doesn't appear that way. We've activated our teams. This is what Department of Homeland Security
02:25:59 is all about. This is why we're stood up to have the continuity of government to bring all the
02:26:04 resources together in an emergency like this. This is exactly what this is. This is a national
02:26:09 emergency. We have all of our assets, be it from DOW to CISA to all of our NOCs, then all the other
02:26:18 components we have inside of DHS. NSA is working with us. There is nothing that indicates it yet.
02:26:24 Now, when we start looking at cyber threats, cyber attacks, typically some people is going
02:26:30 to raise their hand up and say, hey, we did that. There's no chatter. We haven't seen any
02:26:36 footprints, as you would say, or identifications of people that got into the system.
02:26:43 It appears that this was mechanically driven. However, we're still looking. So we're not going to roll that out. I want to hit back on to what Secretary Duffy said with the with the funding. This is a national security risk. We just saw what took place when we have vulnerabilities and we have old systems.
02:27:03 The president has declared this a national emergency, and now we have to have Congress act and fund it.
02:27:11 This is vitally important that we get this system built.
02:27:15 The president has said this.
02:27:16 Secretary Duffy has said this multiple times.
02:27:19 Our air traffic control system is outdated, and it hasn't been a priority from Congress.
02:27:24 And so this is what happens when Congress kicks the can down the road.
02:27:29 But so when you say this, I haven't seen footprints suggesting a cyber attack and nobody's taking credit for a cyber attack.
02:27:36 Have you seen any evidence specifically?
02:27:38 Can you tell people who are watching?
02:27:39 We have seen we have seen zero evidence.
02:27:42 We've seen zero evidence that this was that this was a cyber attack or SI attack.
02:27:50 So then it must be something else.
02:27:51 What is the other thing?
02:27:52 What caused the instability?
02:27:54 So it's very easy.
02:27:56 We have old switches, old routers.
02:28:01 We use 1980s little copper lines.
02:28:06 It's an old system that went down and went down everywhere.
02:28:09 It got overloaded.
02:28:11 So right now we've opened up the airspace.
02:28:16 We've got our centers and our TRACONs operational.
02:28:19 It would be much, and I don't want to rule out that we didn't have nefarious activity here.
02:28:24 That's Mark Wayne and the cybersecurity team that works with us.
02:28:28 We were able to deploy fixes to reduce the overloading on our switches that were able to bring the networks back online and our TRACons and our centers back online.
02:28:42 So I think our fix gives us a pretty good indication that it was a legacy network problem that went down.
02:28:51 And by the way, all of the new equipment that we put in, none of that went down.
02:28:55 This is all the old legacy equipment that's existed forever.
02:28:58 By the way, none of your networks run on 1980 technology.
02:29:03 You all got fiber, state-of-the-art, high-speed networks that cover all of your stations, but not the FAA.
02:29:11 I think the American people deserve the same kind of network that you all use, the same kind of connectivity and speed that you all use.
02:29:18 This is actually terrifying.
02:29:19 one question for you saying that the airlines completely rule out foreign interference are not
02:29:27 on the internet as we are you're talking about old systems being to blame here the ground stop
02:29:32 is lifted but this is not going to get fixed overnight thousands of flights have been delayed
02:29:36 thousands of flights have been canceled how can you assure the american president trump's been
02:29:41 calling for this. Yeah, he has. Actually, so guys, Rose has an article from 2025, which she will share afterwards.
02:29:49 So let's talk about cybersecurity. Once again, we're still looking at it. We're not rolling out anything.
02:29:54 What it appears to be right now is as Secretary Duffy and FAA was going in and putting patches
02:29:59 into the system, they were putting new equipment and new technology. And that new equipment,
02:30:10 new technology just wasn't it was overwhelming the older system which is why secretary duffy
02:30:15 made it very clear the patchwork doesn't work we need one complete system we need someone to come
02:30:22 in and build the whole system doing it nickel and diamond together does not work this is what
02:30:27 happens when that takes place that's why the president has made it very clear we can't do this
02:30:32 it has to be a complete overhaul of the system which we estimate to be about 50 million dollars
02:30:39 However, out of abundance of caution, we are still going to do everything we can to rule it out.
02:30:46 If that changes, we will let you know.
02:30:48 But it doesn't appear right now that this was anything to do but with technology.
02:30:53 So to answer your question, this is not going to get done overnight.
02:30:55 You're right.
02:30:56 But when do you want to start it?
02:30:58 America, when do you want to start building a brand new system?
02:31:03 Well, you have a team with President Trump that actually is building it right now.
02:31:07 but we don't have full funding. And so I think there's no better time than the present
02:31:12 to actually give us the money and let us finish the bill. What went down was old, right? It was
02:31:19 old legacy equipment. It failed. And listen, it's going to continue to fail. But my number one job
02:31:26 is America's safety. That is my first charge. And so if you look at what happened today,
02:31:34 We had a failure. And what happened? We effectively and safely got aircraft out of the airspace, right?
02:31:42 And sometimes people will complain. Why did you shut the airspace down?
02:31:45 We just had an incident a couple months ago in New York where that system went down.
02:31:51 There's a telecom issue. We will shut the system down. I want you to fly safely.
02:31:55 If you miss a baseball game, you miss a wedding, I care about you getting there without any harm.
02:32:04 And so, again, this is a time you have a bill to president.
02:32:09 We can play politics all you want on all kinds of issues.
02:32:12 That's great.
02:32:13 And there's a lot of issues to play politics on.
02:32:15 This is not one of those issues.
02:32:16 This is an American issue, an American bill with an American president that knows how to do it.
02:32:21 Mr. Secretary, thank you.
02:32:25 Will this cascade into Thanksgiving travel plans for college students coming home?
02:32:29 Do you expect to see the ladies' cancellations, even though we're days out? 0.93
02:32:32 That's a great question.
02:32:33 So I believe that it's going to take us some time to get back to capacity
02:32:39 and then get people who were disrupted over the course of the last eight hours
02:32:45 to get them back to their destination.
02:32:47 So we're going to have some makeup to do.
02:32:48 I would imagine a lot of my kids are flying next Friday back from college.
02:32:52 I imagine that's when a lot of kids are flying and everyone starts their Thanksgiving travel,
02:32:56 which, by the way, is a very busy time for travelers.
02:32:59 I think we're going to be back up and operational as we come into the heat of travel during Thanksgiving.
02:33:06 And one more, you mentioned medical flights, organ transplants are still being sold across the country.
02:33:11 Yes, we don't stop those because it wasn't a complete outage.
02:33:15 It was just we were getting varying degrees of our inputs from radar and from telecom.
02:33:25 We were able to still fly those flights safely.
02:33:28 And we understand people's lives are basically in the hands of these flights being able to get from point A to point B.
02:33:34 So we were allowing those to go, as well as law enforcement.
02:33:37 The tanker riverboat crash today down in New Orleans.
02:33:40 I mean, Tara, I'm sure you saw the video.
02:33:42 Do you have any idea how that happened?
02:33:45 and my tanker runs right in the side of it.
02:33:46 Why does he look like a skater boy?
02:33:49 Yeah, this looks like it was an engineer.
02:33:51 Did you say a skater boy?
02:33:53 Yeah, he has a skater boy.
02:33:54 A major engineering defect that took place during either they hit the bridge
02:33:59 or something caused the ripple effect.
02:34:03 I do want to announce, so by the grace of God, we have not lost one soul.
02:34:09 There was 195 souls on on board. All 195 souls are accounted for. 32 are at the hospital. We're still in various conditions, but my last report was there was no critical conditions that was taking place. So just just an absolute miracle there. But once again, not connected at all. That was that was something that took place.
02:34:39 In the run-up, Mr. Secretary, you are having war against Iran. Was there any input at all beyond this incident that there were Iranian elements or any other elements who may be...
02:34:52 Goldie, don't laugh.
02:34:53 We're not saying that. We're not saying that at all. Yes.
02:34:56 Thank you very much. Thank you guys for your coordination about this emergency. Speaking of college, of which industry that relies on probably again is college football. Have you guys been in communication with these universities and do you plan to implement any sort of coordination there?
02:35:07 college football is a big deal in the u.s
02:35:10 larger movements to take place as a priority smaller movements uh will will take a lower
02:35:18 priority and so if you talk about football teams moving is bigger than charters and there's a lot
02:35:23 of really individuals on those charter planes so i would encourage those football teams to reach
02:35:28 out to the faa uh to schedule their flight times and make sure they can uh move to uh make sure
02:35:35 We have games going off tomorrow.
02:35:40 Thank you.
02:35:41 Cameron Arkin from Town Hall.
02:35:42 Has there been any communication with the major commercial airlines?
02:35:46 And can you just clarify what rights do passengers have right now?
02:35:49 I know you mentioned FEMA, but what other rights do they have?
02:35:51 Yeah, so we are in communication with all of our airline partners.
02:35:56 We're making them aware as soon as we can with what the issues are, right,
02:36:00 because they're also concerned.
02:36:01 Was this cyber?
02:36:02 What took place where we had a ground stop?
02:36:05 And when Mark Wayne and our airlines are navigating the passengers who are stranded in airports, but we work fully with them as we come back online and what planes we can move as quickly as possible to get people to their final destinations.
02:36:24 And this is one of those scenarios where this is not the fault of the airline.
02:36:27 But this is, again, I'm happy to blame the airlines.
02:36:31 I'm happy to blame the weather, but I'm also happy to take the blame when it's with the FAA and air traffic control.
02:36:37 And this is a legacy system problem that took place tonight, and we have to handle it accordingly.
02:36:45 Thank you, sir.
02:36:47 Just describe how this manifested in the air today.
02:36:50 Were airplanes still able to communicate with air traffic controllers?
02:36:54 How did it specifically impact that?
02:36:56 And separately, do you have any sort of an estimate at this point of the economic impact of this stoppage and where that goes from here?
02:37:03 So we had intermittent communication and intermittent radar, which is why we then shut the airspace down.
02:37:12 So it wasn't a complete blackout in communication or radar.
02:37:17 So we were able to keep some of those communications going, but intermittent radar,
02:37:21 which is why we then shut the airspace down.
02:37:27 So it wasn't a complete blackout in communication or radar.
02:37:31 So we were able to keep some of those communications going.
02:37:34 But when you have issues and you can't immediately communicate
02:37:37 and immediately see where aircraft are at,
02:37:39 that's a risk that we're unwilling to tolerate.
02:37:42 In regard to economic consequences of what happened today,
02:37:45 I think it underscores how important aviation is to our economy.
02:37:48 We haven't done a calculation.
02:37:50 I was on an airplane from Dallas when this happened, hence my attire, and haven't gone to change.
02:37:57 So I apologize for wearing a jacket and jeans with you.
02:38:01 There'll be time to do an economic analysis.
02:38:03 But this is critical for the American economy, which is why the Congress, I'm going to say it a million times,
02:38:09 the Congress has to give the resources to the president so we can finish this bill.
02:38:13 I can't pause it.
02:38:15 Just to be clear to follow up, that means there were times when there were times when there were people.
02:38:19 it's it's it's a live stream on fox news i can't pause it but what i can say is that
02:38:25 thank you raider so raider is one of like my original supporters and he just came to your
02:38:30 live stream and um sent a super chat super sticker to your live stream so thank you raider
02:38:36 so thank you so much raider appreciate that raider is amazing raiders always been there raider
02:38:41 okay you can raise your hand i can't i can't pause it because like this is like live live tv
02:38:47 so it's not like a live stream i do it and it's all good but uh what do you what did you want to
02:38:57 say and then we'll get back to the comments yeah i mean you don't think he's going to say anything
02:39:02 more interesting he he might but you had your hand raised so i don't know what i think i was just like
02:39:08 fixing my hair oh okay so yeah that's so i want to clarify that um this is our old
02:39:17 tdm analog system that uh got overloaded with data and started to experience these issues
02:39:24 and it was in our tray cons and our centers throughout the nas now we do have some uh
02:39:30 in our tray cons and centers that have been upgraded to um to digital uh to ip those did
02:39:37 not experience these issues which underscores the point it's important that we're able to finish
02:39:42 this work with additional resources but how can americans be confident that this vulnerability
02:39:47 won't be an issue again in the coming weeks if what today took place happened this is a great
02:39:54 question so listen um i can't i can't build things if i don't have money like this is this is this is
02:40:00 a great question that you ask how can america be confident well we do everything whether we have
02:40:05 we have the busiest airspace in the world bar none we have the safest airspace in the world
02:40:09 bar none no one competes with us on safety or complication of the airspace but if you ask the
02:40:14 question what should we do well we should talk to our senators and members of congress to say we
02:40:20 don't we don't deserve this america this is the greatest country by the way with the greatest
02:40:24 president let's give the money to fix this very real problem and this is not the first time we
02:40:30 We had this happen in New York when we had global leaders were flying in for the U.N.
02:40:35 We had a similar issue.
02:40:36 We had an issue in Newark.
02:40:39 It happened twice.
02:40:40 How many times does this have to happen before Congress gives the money to fix it?
02:40:45 The Trump administration has been in office for almost two years now, sir.
02:40:49 So why hasn't this been a bigger priority for the president?
02:40:51 Republicans control the president.
02:40:52 Oh, my God.
02:40:53 What?
02:40:54 And still do. 1.00
02:40:54 Oh, what a retarded question. 1.00
02:40:56 Sorry. 1.00
02:40:57 Sorry.
02:40:57 so she's like why hasn't this been a bigger priority for the president it has been it literally
02:41:03 has been rose has an article rose has an article from 2025 which we're going to go over but very
02:41:10 very briefly very briefly trump's plan to fix air traffic get rid of the ads here trump's plan to
02:41:18 fix air traffic control faces huge hurdles aka from the democrats so this is like the stuff that
02:41:26 just blows my mind because it's like the reporters are like why wasn't this president trump's priority
02:41:31 it was his priority but the democrats blocked it and this rose gave me this article so anyways
02:41:38 she'll speak more about this on sunday and maybe later today but we'll get back to the live stream
02:41:43 this is bipartisan but on that bill i didn't have democrats who voted for it we now have an
02:41:50 opportunity in an emergency funding bill before the end of the year to give the money and i think
02:41:55 the question should be from NBC to every member, do you support actually modernizing, making a state
02:42:02 of the art air traffic control system? And it's going to take us some time. I can't snap my
02:42:06 fingers and build a network overnight, but do you want us to build this for America? And I think
02:42:11 every member of Congress should say yes, but every American, I guarantee you, would tell those
02:42:16 members, yes, give President Trump, give Duffy the money, let them finish this job so we don't
02:42:21 have to do a press conference at 8 30 at night ever again. Sir, but you're building the new
02:42:28 system. Is it safe to fly? How do we know this isn't going to happen again tomorrow when you
02:42:33 bring in new patches? So this is 1970s radar that we don't make parts for anymore. To have an old
02:42:42 network, an old network configuration from the 80s versus re-networking the air traffic control
02:42:49 system through the FAA, I believe that should be a priority. And our number one mission when we do
02:42:56 any of this is safety. But if you do nothing, the system doesn't get more safe. It gets less safe.
02:43:04 And so I would say, America, Congress, let's make this system more safe. Let's continue to lead. We
02:43:10 led the world in aviation. We led it in the jet age. We've led in space. Let's continue to lead
02:43:16 with a state-of-the-art, a system that no one has, that's the best in the world, but that takes cash.
02:43:24 Given your knowledge of the old system and what kind of ins and outs there,
02:43:30 why wasn't the agency prepared for some kind of catastrophic failure?
02:43:33 Oh my God.
02:43:35 Well, I can't anticipate every catastrophic failure that will happen with an analog network.
02:43:42 Shouldn't there have been a backup plan in place in case this network failed?
02:43:45 you knew it was an old system you were trying to replace to keep you old in here so uh i didn't
02:43:51 anticipate that we would have an outage like this we've had small outages that i've mentioned
02:43:57 previously um we didn't think we would have this kind of outage uh we did and what i would tell
02:44:04 you is the systems that were deployed kept everybody safe everyone landed were able to
02:44:10 review what went wrong and then reboot the system and go but uh you will have more of these you will
02:44:17 have more of them unless the american people in the congress tell us to build and i i can't wait
02:44:24 for that it's the priority for president trump why have we not heard from him at all because the
02:44:28 democrats didn't support it because the democrats didn't talk to him i've talked to him in to in
02:44:35 the in the oval so is mark wayne um oh i don't run the president's comms i just know that mark wayne
02:44:41 and i are going to come out and talk to you about it but i know he's so funny goldie with the both
02:44:45 of us from the point that it happened uh to moments before i came out i was in uh constant
02:44:52 communication mark wayne and i i'm not even american and i'm frustrated what's just unique
02:44:59 about the president is he loves aviation um he loves the airspace and which is why he has been
02:45:04 so engaged on this um he understands it very well and he he's he's been frustrated from my first
02:45:10 before i actually was sworn in he was talking about how old the system is how past administrations
02:45:16 had failed and how he wants to fix the air traffic control system i feel like you're getting ptsd
02:45:22 the best in the world yeah to make sure we can ask the congress and get the money and give the
02:45:29 deliverables thank you mr secretary i'm curious i don't think we have clarity yet what was different
02:45:35 about today's specifically the system has been in place for a long time why did today
02:45:39 the system go out and can you give more clarity you're saying this will happen again
02:45:48 what kind of vintage i'll have it happen again i don't know right is this exact thing going to
02:45:53 happen again i don't i don't know that this exact scenario will happen but i did have
02:45:57 new york a couple months ago i had new work a year and a half ago um so uh we're still working
02:46:04 on the details of what went wrong today it was jason i'll be happy to give you more information
02:46:10 when we have it i don't want to give you the wrong information our team is working over time
02:46:15 uh trying to navigate uh what what happened here what was the cause and how do we prevent it in the
02:46:22 future should similar situations arise during the ai program you guys just introduced smart
02:46:27 program for the FAA. So, as I mentioned, this is all the old legacy equipment. All of the new
02:46:34 equipment that's been deployed did not go down. Our smart system, which is a system that we have
02:46:39 a feed for the whole airspace, that's going to help us better manage trajectories of airplanes
02:46:44 and better manage weather so we can, one, drive safety in the airspace and drive efficiency in
02:46:50 the airspace but that smart system isn't plugged in uh to stars and e-ram uh it's not this is this
02:46:58 is completely disconnected and i love that some people have said this would be the root cause by
02:47:02 the way if it was i'll tell you i'll tell you that but uh this is not even plugged in what this does
02:47:07 is gives information um from the airspace to a human being and gives them a prompt how they
02:47:14 could better navigate weather or trajectories then the human being pts will actually decide
02:47:19 to accept or deny that prompt. So we're not even tied in. So there was no possible way
02:47:23 smart would have impacted what happened today. You said today that there was no one in any danger.
02:47:29 I'm curious for people who are frustrated right now about the fact that their flight's been
02:47:32 delayed or canceled. Why was there a ground stop put in place for five hours if no one was in any
02:47:37 danger? Well, to make sure that no one's in any danger. No one was in danger because procedures
02:47:43 we put in place. The system went down. We reacted the way that we were trained to react.
02:47:49 And everybody came together. President Trump immediately had people in his office. We were
02:47:54 communicating. Secretary Duffy, the FAA, took immediate actions that they had put in place
02:48:00 to assure everybody was safe. And that's why you saw, we had, as Secretary Duffy had said,
02:48:06 we had over 3,000 flights in the air. We had a ground stoppage and they were all able to land
02:48:13 safely, even with the communication problems. And I just can't speak enough about President
02:48:19 Trump's leadership. This is what President Trump does. He puts leaders in place and he allows them
02:48:25 to lead. They even ask, you know, why is the president not talking? It's because he's allowed
02:48:32 secretary duffy and us to go out there and explain to you what took place president trump
02:48:38 trusts his leadership and that's why we really lean in towards his leadership and when secretary
02:48:44 duffy said he's the greatest president we've had you've never had a builder and a leader like
02:48:50 president trump lead this nation have a vision and put the put the team together um thank you
02:48:55 guys so much appreciate it.
02:49:07 All right. That was the tran 1.00
02:49:09 Secretary of Homeland Secur 0.51
02:49:13 Mullen tonight. It is friday
02:49:16 of November and a nationw
02:49:18 has been at least partially
02:49:22 all planes were grounded for hours all across the country. Now, this is only the second national
02:49:28 ground stop since 9-11, but Homeland Security Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen just emphasized
02:49:34 Americans were never at any point at risk. President Trump telling our very own Peter
02:49:39 Ducey that. He told me that earlier tonight. Terrorism was not the culprit. There are a lot
02:49:45 of online conspiracies. Be careful. This was a government tech issue and in just moments we'll
02:49:52 get live reports from the White House, LaGuardia Airport, LAX, Reagan National, George W. Bush
02:49:58 Airport. But we do begin tonight in New York City where passengers are at LaGuardia Airport tonight
02:50:05 and they are stranded. Brian Yannis is standing by. He's live at the scene with the very latest
02:50:10 there brian what's going on sean good evening well terminal c which is mostly delta flights
02:50:16 canceled all of their flights to and from lga it's the largest airline that uses lga at about
02:50:23 seven o'clock then there was a three hour wait and probably still continuing uh to for people
02:50:29 to get their bags because once they deplane they then had to wait for all of their bags
02:50:34 we've had like delays longer than three hours you can imagine the nightmare oh yeah spoken to
02:50:38 passengers who then walk over to the rental car system, get on the bus, arrive to get the rental
02:50:44 car, and we are told that there are no more rental cars. Now you have potentially hundreds of people
02:50:50 looking for rental cars, and they just simply do not exist. Now, we have spoken to people who have
02:50:55 plenty of stories that are now waiting to see whether or not their flight is canceled. Right
02:51:00 now, though, there are people who still have hope, and some people, though, who know they have a
02:51:04 cancel flight and are gonna have to stay here overnight. One of those people is here. She's
02:51:10 made a little camp out here at Terminal B. Eva, tell us where are you going to and from and what
02:51:17 do you got going on here? I'm supposed to be headed from LaGuardia to Nashville, but now the
02:51:22 flight's been changed from LaGuardia to Nebraska to Nashville. So when is this flight? 7.40 a.m.
02:51:30 7 40 a.m. tomorrow and you are choosing not to get a hotel or a car there's no reason because
02:51:36 of how early it is and the inflation that's happened to all of the hotels nearby it's roughly
02:51:40 about 500 so you're saying it's just way to tell you about the time any kind of i was sitting outside
02:51:46 it's just expensive an iranian bathroom in an airport overnight there's no point essentially
02:51:52 so now you have camped out essentially this is this is what you've decided to do we got the
02:51:56 luggage that's but um but especially because my flight leaves so early that she can yeah she can
02:52:02 get so now you have camped out essentially this is this is what you've decided to do we got the
02:52:06 luggage that's a bit of a barrier and you're gonna sleep here yeah but i wonder i wonder because it
02:52:12 wasn't the fault of the airline and she made a mad dash across i wonder what the airlines will
02:52:16 justify huddle up together yeah they're a little bit tricky that way that's why you need like yeah
02:52:22 she's really trying to see wow and then in terms of the ground stop the national ground stop
02:52:28 how did you hear about it with the airlines did they communicate it all you know when i went to
02:52:32 ukraine i didn't tell you or mom and dad but i had to get special insurance due to a friend sending
02:52:37 me a picture oh my god i had to get war insurance so i found out i died by a bullet i didn't hear
02:52:42 about the ground from my airline until maybe i had known about it for already an hour oh my goodness
02:52:48 how do you how what you say today has been and your feelings but i didn't pay for it
02:52:52 like the delegation paid my back's gonna hurt but um the payment isn't the issue
02:52:56 you confident about tomorrow i had special i hope so i hope so to you as well thanks so much
02:53:01 for taking time to speak to us and sean we've heard stories like this uh all night actually
02:53:06 here at lga we've had people who are trying to get to canada who no longer can go to canada
02:53:11 and they have to wait till tuesday we've heard from people who say they have medicines that they
02:53:15 They are trying to figure out how to get it in pack enough to last to be here in New York for three or four days longer.
02:53:23 And of course, we've also spoken to people who are having those major issues with the rental cars.
02:53:27 No major announcements have been made on the intercoms here.
02:53:30 We know that the flights are going and they're doing what they're going to do in terms of updating people on the board.
02:53:35 I would say about half the flights here at a terminal B are canceled.
02:53:39 The other half, they're delayed until 11 p.m.
02:53:41 So people are holding out hope to see if their flights will take off now that this ground stop has been lifted.
02:53:48 Sean.
02:53:49 All right, Brian.
02:53:50 It's going to be hard on many, many people, at least in that case.
02:53:52 That girl made her friend, and we wish her the best, not the best sleeping conditions at all.
02:53:58 All right, now let's check in across the country.
02:54:01 Let's go to LAX and check in with Natalie Chuck.
02:54:04 Natalie, what's going on in Los Angeles?
02:54:07 Los Angeles.
02:54:08 Hi, Sean.
02:54:09 Well, that ground stop officially lifted is good news, but that doesn't mean it's less chaotic here at LAX.
02:54:14 We're down by baggage claim, and this has been the most chaotic scene all night so far.
02:54:18 People down here just combing through all of this.
02:54:21 It's like finding a needle in a haystack, looking for their luggage.
02:54:24 And many of them that we spoke to, they're looking for the luggage that went on the flights that they never got on because those flights were canceled.
02:54:31 We spoke with a couple who landed from Taipei earlier.
02:54:34 They had no idea what was happening when they landed.
02:54:37 And then they decided that they were going to have to rent a car to drive to Phoenix because their flight was canceled.
02:54:43 And now they're saying it's going to take four hours to get their bags to them.
02:54:48 That's according to someone they spoke with down here at Bags Claim.
02:54:51 Take a look at this line. It's also been growing and dwindling and then growing again.
02:54:56 And we do have someone over here who's willing to chat with us.
02:54:58 Could you talk to us about what's going on? What are you waiting in line for?
02:55:02 Waiting in line to find out where my bags are.
02:55:04 Did you ever catch a flight today or?
02:55:06 Yeah, we did. We almost made it all the way from D.C. to San Diego.
02:55:11 And then half an hour out, they said, no, we're going to Los Angeles because there's no room in San Diego.
02:55:17 So how long have you been waiting on your luggage now?
02:55:21 Well, we were waiting in the plane on the tarmac for a couple hours.
02:55:26 So we're just trying to find where the luggage is at all because we don't know.
02:55:29 I mean, what's it like to see this down here? It's like a graveyard of luggage that people are trying to get on.
02:55:34 pretty amazing, isn't it?
02:55:36 cool. Uh, adventure. I kn
02:55:39 this hat today. I didn't
02:55:42 adventure away. It's yeah
02:55:45 Oh, it is. Oh, cool. So a
02:55:50 any conversations you've
02:55:51 other people in the airp
02:55:52 they feeling about what's
02:55:55 airport. I just put my bl
02:55:57 look, but the people on t
02:55:59 tell you we're all super
02:56:02 that it's a big thing goi
02:56:04 freaking out doesn't help patience helps so are you planning on getting on another flight to san
02:56:09 diego uh we we booked a car whether it's here or not we don't know uh we're probably not going to
02:56:18 go down tonight we're so we booked a hotel and hopefully we'll get down san diego tomorrow
02:56:25 somehow hopefully you do thank you so much for taking the time to talk to us hope you get that
02:56:29 luggage quickly yeah just one thing seems like a nice guy um yeah it's it's not such a bad thing
02:56:35 when you think about the alternative of running out of fuel in the sky and falling out oh my god
02:56:42 why would he bring that up something else lax has told us is that some people could catch their
02:56:47 flights out tonight still sean but it's going to be a matter of uh the airlines the staffing yeah
02:56:53 right quickly they can get back up in the air they say i love him as soon as he said that she
02:56:59 just like turned away and then she turned to another topic because it kind of went from zero
02:57:05 to a hundred real quick there real quick real quick real quick oh my gosh yeah he just went
02:57:13 from like yeah it's been okay and then oh it's much better than losing our gas and running out
02:57:19 of fuel in the sky and falling out yeah oh my god and then she's just like all right let's go to the
02:57:25 next thing and about it i've had many conversations with sean duffy about it uh so there is a lot of
02:57:32 conversation now going on there i feel like he was a veteran and sean i'm sure it was similar
02:57:37 when you talked to him it didn't sound like he was panicked because of people running into his
02:57:42 office with pieces of paper about the latest information their agencies had he sounded like
02:57:48 somebody who had been presented with information from his top guys that this does not seem like it
02:57:55 is a cyber attack. I had a chance to dive into that a little bit with the DHS secretary again
02:58:02 in here in the briefing room, Mark Wayne Mullen, and ask why they don't think that this is a cyber
02:58:07 attack. Because what they are describing as the cause of the instability that led to all of this
02:58:12 is that some routers were overloaded with data, and then the system started to show instability.
02:58:21 Routers overloaded with data sounds like something that could be the result of a cyber attack.
02:58:27 The reason that they say there is not a cyber attack happening or happened earlier today is
02:58:34 because they don't see the footprints and nobody has claimed responsibility, which is something
02:58:41 that they would look for in the early stages of an event like this this this event though this
02:58:47 evening with the transportation secretary and uh and mark wayne mullen was less about the logistics
02:58:53 of the next couple hours the next couple days and it was more about trying to reassure the american
02:58:58 public because the first thing mark wayne mullen said when he came in here it wasn't that the
02:59:03 ground stop was ending it wasn't that it was going to take a certain number of hours or days to
02:59:09 unwind this thing. He came out and the first thing he said was, this is not related to what
02:59:14 happened with Microsoft. We know that there are a lot of people watching this right now,
02:59:20 connecting the dots. Okay. Well, that's kind of weird. Global outage of email. A lot of weird
02:59:25 things happened in the last 48 hours. FAA outage that's grounding every plane in the United States
02:59:31 just a day later. We don't know exactly why they are so confident that these things are not
02:59:37 think it's all connected but that's what they led with and it's it's a hard question to answer
02:59:43 yeah there was a warning from sean duffy that this is going to happen again in some form
02:59:48 i'll be the conspiracy theorist it's the islamic regime analog system wait i thought you said it
02:59:53 was russia system full of 55 year old broken stuff uh they don't have the money to upgrade
02:59:59 all of it right now they have the money to upgrade some of it it sounds like some of the
03:00:03 new stuff overwhelmed the old stuff if there was not a cyber attack um but but they are using this
03:00:09 as a cautionary tale they're warning that it will happen again but that they think everybody in the
03:00:15 sky is still going to be safe because they've got emergency systems in place which were on display
03:00:20 today even though people were in the air and they were not in constant communication uh radio and
03:00:27 radar communication with the ground uh there there was some kind of a contingency that that sprung
03:00:33 into place. They say that's the reason that people are going to be safe when this happens
03:00:37 again. Sean. You know, but Mark Wayne did say we're not ruling anything out. And I have had
03:00:43 exhaustive, long conversations with Sean Duffy, and he is describing antiquated equipment from
03:00:52 the 1950s. That, Peter, to me, is unconscionable, especially when you consider the number of
03:00:59 flights take off and land every single day. And it sounds like the thing that would be meant to
03:01:06 assure the American public that this is not a cyber attack is, well, some of the stuff that
03:01:12 we've got is too old to hack from Iran, from Russia, from North Korea, from wherever. But this
03:01:18 is really, really complicated. They did say, for anybody watching who typically tunes into college
03:01:23 football tomorrow, we've seen some social media reports about teams that weren't able to fly.
03:01:27 They said that they're going to prioritize some of the charter flights that have dozens or hundreds of people on them, including some of the college football teams, to get them where they need to go.
03:01:38 Private flights that only have five or six people on them are going to be at the bottom of the list.
03:01:43 And it sounds like it could take a couple days for people that fly like that to get wherever they're going.
03:01:49 John, you know, Peter, think about this. Think about a car in the 1950s and compare it to any modern day vehicle with a navigation system or any of the technology that we all have become very accustomed to.
03:02:03 I press a button in my car. It'll drive me from point A to point B.
03:02:07 And I don't have to do a thing. The fact that this equipment goes back to the 1950s, I cannot get over it.
03:02:14 And Sean Duffy's been screaming this from the mountaintops.
03:02:18 And now maybe America will pay attention to it.
03:02:20 I hope so, because this could end it as a, yeah.
03:02:24 Wait, wait, guys, I'm so sorry.
03:02:26 And something else that we know that is a priority.
03:02:28 Sorry, guys, I just got, like, I just got a text from 2C.
03:02:35 We have, like, some breaking news from 2C.
03:02:39 This is wild.
03:02:41 Oh, my gosh.
03:02:43 What is it? Spit it out.
03:02:44 so okay okay i'm i'm gonna i'm gonna share it let me just bring it up
03:02:49 oh my gosh this is insane oh oh my god what is it
03:03:00 i'm pulling it up let me let me let me pull it up so because apparently his internet is down
03:03:06 Oh my god! Oh wow! Uber has been hacked! Data breach exposing thousands of driver's licenses
03:03:17 confirmed by the company. Oh my god! Uber has been hacked. He just sent this to me.
03:03:27 and oh he just sent something else too oh my god he just sent this as well so breaking global hr
03:03:41 and finance platform workday is experiencing outage and system disruptions oh my god guys
03:03:51 delete oh no delete your uber i mean delete it if they already have the data so if if you're a
03:04:00 typical user of uber you wouldn't necessarily have your driver's license on there but if you've been
03:04:06 like an uber driver how would you know that rose if you've been an uber driver at any point your
03:04:12 driver's license information would be on there delete your accounts delete your accounts so
03:04:17 yeah, just, you know what? Delete it, delete everything. Um, wow. Uber has been hacked and
03:04:26 people's driver's licenses. So, um, I have used Uber in the past to order food, but, um,
03:04:35 yeah, guys, if you've ever been an Uber driver, delete your account. You know what? I'm just
03:04:43 delete uber i mean i don't know man like this is this is wild
03:04:51 i'm just gonna i'm just gonna delete my uber because uh i don't want to risk this wait how
03:04:57 do i delete my account account although you know what to be fair like my account i actually don't
03:05:04 use my real name or like this this is apparently within the us only okay it's it's united states
03:05:11 only okay all right okay so americans americans um americans using uber please be careful because
03:05:22 according to 2ctv um uber has been hacked yikes
03:05:32 awkward okay wait where's where's fox news all right let's get back to fox news
03:05:39 happy friday the 13th rose yeah you too goldie happy friday the 13th and we still have to talk
03:05:48 about your article by the way which we will talk about yes we'll get to that one when the live tv
03:05:53 is done yeah absolutely um did you know have you known for a long time it's that bad
03:06:01 frankly i have um partly you know from from being in the air and and having to talk to some of the
03:06:06 the air traffic control centers and and those problems do exist newark was you know going to
03:06:11 kind of the last time that we were on a live stream together 18 months ago it was the alien
03:06:18 baltimore airport philadelphia airport communication systems have have gone down where the tower could
03:06:25 not talk to the planes that is a recipe for disaster and that's what secretary duffy is
03:06:31 trying to get fixed i just want to say real quickly sean you know the good news is this
03:06:35 ground stop has been lifted the bad news is it's not going to be fixed tomorrow it's going to take
03:06:41 probably at least three days to get the air traffic control system back online because here's
03:06:46 what happens those pilots who've landed in in you know airports they weren't intending to land at or
03:06:53 uh are going to be timed out they're not going to be able to legally get in the cockpit tomorrow
03:06:58 hi johnny marzo fly somewhere they have to you know they have duty hours that they have to respect
03:07:03 so it's going to take about three days to get the system back online and you're talking about
03:07:09 modernization of the equipment and updating avionics and updating control towers yeah guys
03:07:15 people to to do that very difficult job uh to keep the air uh airways safe in this country it is a
03:07:22 this is a monumental task and considering almost every american does fly for the sake of the
03:07:29 American people. It's not red. It's not blue. It's not Republican. It's not 0.83
03:07:32 Democrat. How about we fix it and keep the air safe for everybody? John, I
03:07:38 always appreciate you being on my friend. Thank you. We will be watching
03:07:42 you this weekend and now this. So at 3 36 p.m. We experienced instability for
03:07:51 our radar and our communications in our centers and our trade cons across the
03:07:55 country. So if you don't know this, at airports, we have towers. The next rung out is the TRACON.
03:08:01 After that, we have enroute centers. The TRACONs and the centers, we started to have inconsistency
03:08:07 in the data from the radars and our communication with airplanes.
03:08:13 So was this a giant government tech malfunction? Here with more. Former FAA official Scott Brenner
03:08:19 is with us and former deputy administrator for the FAA, Dan Elwell. Dan, start with you.
03:08:25 um based on what we know based on what sean duffy just said tonight
03:08:30 uh how do you interpret this it seems to me
03:08:34 that this should be prioritized as a national emergency
03:08:39 you're to keep the air safe i know right i should go i should i should be one of
03:08:43 the panelists right now you should be it has to be
03:08:46 guys how do we get me on on the fox news panel about cars and how you can
03:08:50 push i'll connect you with my people i guess
03:08:53 yeah and latest technology in your car canady but then when your car goes on
03:09:00 tons of other cars and maybe a lot of cars that aren't as sophisticated as yours like
03:09:06 all that technology just makes it a little bit easier to wait and guys i have to put in a plug
03:09:11 sorry let me find that's what we have we have a yeah put in your plug what is it what's your plug
03:09:17 well i lost the chat john can you send another text so i can highlight it please but my
03:09:23 so i see my friend john in the chat so john marzo we went to school together in university we went
03:09:30 oh really yeah and so so john actually has an amazing okay let me talk john has an amazing
03:09:37 um company called air fairness um yeah so john runs air fairness.com and you could actually if
03:09:49 if you're in a you know if if your flight gets cancelled or it gets delayed and you're entitled
03:09:54 to compensation john's company can actually um help get you that compensation um and there you
03:10:01 go so you guys should uh check it out and yes john we should definitely figure out how to collab
03:10:10 because flight delays suck but according to john this issue will not get you compensation
03:10:17 yeah billions and apparently billions in compensation go unclaimed every year so rose
03:10:24 why make millions when you could make millions billions billions yeah so john marzo you want my
03:10:32 sister to give a shout out to your channel you better give her billions actually john
03:10:39 had a video that went viral on Instagram a couple days ago no he got
03:10:47 like I think close to 40 million views like there you go no I remember his name
03:10:55 sounds really so yeah you know what you should actually invite John onto your
03:11:01 live stream and talk to him about about this and there you go maybe maybe he
03:11:07 can sponsor your channel because that's how so funny there you go hey john welcome to the youtube
03:11:15 live stream okay don't file claims yet because he's gonna give you coupon codes so don't don't
03:11:24 file claims yet okay if the coupon code doesn't start with rose gamma ray whatever like i'll be
03:11:31 very upset the coupon code needs to be like r gamma ray something i love that yeah john also
03:11:38 studied aerospace engineering um with me yeah but you were the president oh my goodness guys guys
03:11:48 my my sister was literally the president of the aerospace engineering student society for two
03:11:55 years yes so there you go literally she was a smart one so proud of her designed that's why i'm like
03:12:02 sean hannity needs to bring my sister on because all these like all these people in suits and ties
03:12:07 they speak and they're like and then like rose is just like oh my gosh okay well we'll have the code
03:12:16 as rose gamma ray here i'm typing it in the chat rose gamma ray there you go john marzo you've been
03:12:22 told yeah you know but honestly no that's great that's great you know what but uh john amazing
03:12:34 work rose um i really think it would be really great if like you brought john onto your live
03:12:39 stream and did like a live stream with him separately um speaks about this because well
03:12:44 i mean this happens all the time with people where their flights get delayed or you know whatever
03:12:48 and and then the the the airlines um they'll lie about the compensation you can get and then
03:12:55 literally billions go on claims yeah i mean he's doing a very good service oh my god amazing yeah
03:13:02 that's great um you know what all i can say is that the only airline that has never um you know
03:13:08 uh you know provided compensation no no the only airline that has never scammed the people is the
03:13:16 anti-derka 4000 so guys if you want to make sure that you will never be scammed just take a flight
03:13:23 on the anti-derka 4000 you know and we serve taco bell remember anti-derka 4000 taco
03:13:32 okay let's get back to controllers what they can safely handle we will never put more traffic
03:13:39 in a controller's area than they can handle there's one last thing every american probably
03:13:44 doesn't even know or some people do know uh let's say your flight time is scheduled to be two and a
03:13:49 half hours and you land three hours later that probably means you were flying around in circles
03:13:54 uh because they didn't plan for your landing how common is that scott
03:14:01 it seems it's every time i get on the airplane that happens but no i mean i i think you know
03:14:06 i think that a lot of the a lot of the carriers were concerned about some of the stuff that the
03:14:10 the last administration was pushing about delayed flights, right? And so you see a regulation come
03:14:15 out that's going to start penalizing a carrier if their flights are delayed at no fault of their
03:14:20 own. And all of a sudden, they're going to start adjusting that schedule. You know, there's a lot
03:14:25 of people who want to fly. They're trying to get as many aircraft in and out of these airports as
03:14:29 possible. And the time frames are very tight. And so sometimes you land, your gate's not open,
03:14:34 you got to wait a few minutes on a future show um i will talk to sean duffy about pothole pete
03:14:41 and the lousy job he did in that position um and what he said to sean duffy should shock the
03:14:47 country um scott dan thank you both now today's nationwide ground stop has been lifted but not
03:14:53 before causing massive panic yeah i was lifted about 45 minutes ago of a student pilot caught in
03:14:59 the air amid all the chaos take a listen to this 2520 alpha meacham tower there is a ground stop
03:15:06 nationwide i advise you land your aircraft where would you like to land
03:15:22 look i think that it's a good thing that rick scott my senator here in florida is
03:15:27 urging every senator to stay in session the next 50 days. I'd like to see a reconciliation bill.
03:15:35 I'd like to see judges get through. I'd like to see the Department of War funded and I would like
03:15:41 to see the FAA funded and I'd like to see the Department of Transportation funded to upgrade
03:15:46 this. Yeah. Well, they said no one got her. We better work to get that done. I think what we're
03:15:52 seeing today, which I've known for a while and why I've been working with Secretary Duffy and
03:15:56 president on this modern Skies Act, which would infuse these dollars to
03:16:01 upgrade our air traffic control systems and our airport infrastructure.
03:16:04 We have we have air traffic control towers, Sean, that if under the current
03:16:08 funding pace would take hundreds of years to upgrade and replace. And so
03:16:12 what secretary Duffy's talking about is an infusion that allows us to upgrade
03:16:17 and this is the greatest country in the history of the world. We should not
03:16:20 accept that we don't have the best technology in the world to deal with
03:16:24 but the, you know, the very complex system we have in the sky, I'd also give you this statistic, Sean.
03:16:29 In the next 20 years, you're going to see a 40% increase in air travel, right?
03:16:34 And so if you have an upgraded system, you can handle that.
03:16:37 You have greater capacity.
03:16:38 You can be more efficient.
03:16:39 There can be more direct routes.
03:16:41 But what we have right now is sort of a dial-up Internet when you're trying to connect a 4K television to it, right?
03:16:47 And so I think this does highlight the need.
03:16:50 That's my legislation.
03:16:52 I talked to President Trump tonight about it.
03:16:53 We're going to push very hard to get that done before the end of the year.
03:16:57 We should have a sense of urgency about this, Sean.
03:16:59 This is not a partisan issue.
03:17:01 This is about the safety of Americans who are flying.
03:17:05 These are our constituents.
03:17:06 These are our neighbors.
03:17:07 They live in our communities.
03:17:08 We should be fighting for them.
03:17:10 I think the message, you know, last week was they want people up there.
03:17:13 They're going to fight for them.
03:17:14 So we should stay up there day and night to make sure we have the funding necessary to protect them.
03:17:19 Well, Senator, you heard Sean Duffy today.
03:17:22 it's not just about hardware software he talked about towers that are nearly a hundred years old
03:17:29 a hundred years old um he talked about air traffic controllers that have you know a roof that's
03:17:36 leaking no air conditioning uh that they are high in the air and they have to walk upstairs because
03:17:44 the elevator doesn't work yeah i mean you've got to be kidding me senator this is the usa
03:17:49 say. I think we're better than that. I agree with that. And by the way, this isn't the first time
03:17:55 Secretary Duffy's been saying that. He and I have been on a tour where we're going to different
03:18:00 places and talking about the need to upgrade. Unfortunately, it's an incident like this
03:18:05 that gets more sort of national attention. But the issue's been there. And this is decades in
03:18:11 the making. And it takes leadership to take it on. President Trump is willing to do that.
03:18:15 Secretary Duffy's willing to do that. I'm willing to do that. Congress has kicked this can down the
03:18:20 road for far too long. This is not just some sort of typical issue. By the way, we've had these
03:18:25 foreign aid programs, Sean, for far too long that will build whole airports and construct
03:18:31 these systems in foreign countries. Let's bring those dollars back home to protect Americans.
03:18:36 And that's what this whole thing's about. You know, you say something like that,
03:18:40 And you're not only pissing me off, you are pissing off every American.
03:18:44 You're pissing me off and I'm not an American.
03:18:48 We've got to get a priority straight here.
03:18:51 And that's it.
03:18:52 End of sentence.
03:18:53 Full stop.
03:18:54 Senator, thank you.
03:18:55 Now, even though this is only the second time a nationwide ground stop has been issued since 9-11,
03:19:01 Mark Wayne Mullen did emphasize that there is no reason to be afraid
03:19:04 and that this ground stop was not connected to other nationwide tech issues.
03:19:10 like what happened with Microsoft yesterday. Take a look.
03:19:14 I want to make sure everybody understands that there is no connection
03:19:18 between this and Microsoft.
03:19:22 Everybody understands that there is no connection between this and Microsoft.
03:19:28 I know a lot of people are making that jump.
03:19:32 This is, so far what we've seen,
03:19:35 There is actually no cyber attack.
03:19:40 We're still working through that process.
03:19:43 Our teams are working.
03:19:45 This is what the leadership of President Trump looks like.
03:19:50 All right, joining us now is cybersecurity expert, former State Department anti-terrorism advisor, Morgan Wright.
03:19:57 Now, Mark Wayne Mullen did say that, but he also said nothing is off the table.
03:20:03 Thoughts?
03:20:05 Look, Sean, this is obviously a pretty evolving, pretty complex thing.
03:20:10 It's going to take a while to get to what we call the root cause of the issue.
03:20:13 When I first heard this going on, one of the first things I said is, you know, it doesn't matter what you believe.
03:20:17 It only matters what must be true, right?
03:20:18 So what must be true, you start looking at what connects.
03:20:21 There's three layers to this, right?
03:20:22 The towers, while the planes are still on the tarmac.
03:20:25 Then there's that, what they call the TRACON, the difference between when they take off and then they get to altitude.
03:20:30 That's when the centers take over.
03:20:32 There's 22 centers that do this.
03:20:34 Well, two centers were not affected.
03:20:36 That's Hawaii and Alaska.
03:20:37 Why? 0.65
03:20:38 Because they use satellite.
03:20:39 They use microwave.
03:20:39 They use different things in this network.
03:20:41 So what's the one thing that connects it?
03:20:43 There's a central point of failure.
03:20:45 We've seen it with outages at Amazon.
03:20:47 We've seen it with Verizon, AT&T, Cloudflare, CrowdStrike.
03:20:51 So when you get systems this big, there's going to be outages.
03:20:54 But to your point, listening to it, what we're dealing with is this transition from old stuff.
03:20:58 By the way, Sean, until 2019, the Strategic Automated Command and Control System for the release of nuclear weapons was
03:21:04 run by eight inch floppy disks. It's taken that long, even with nuclear weapons, for us to
03:21:08 modernize. So now that we're moving millions of people through the air, they've got to get out
03:21:13 of this old analog stuff, move to a more modernized network to where when you have a failure, if
03:21:18 there's something that can be mitigated quickly, you have your backup plans that can be instituted
03:21:22 quickly. But look at the end of the day, I've probably got a couple million miles on United.
03:21:26 Those are your redundant system. I know the pilots want to land as safely as we do, but it's not that
03:21:30 comforting, especially on Friday the 13th when you get something like this that could have been
03:21:34 far more worse than what it was. Honestly, valid. You say a couple of a million miles.
03:21:39 You've traveled that much. That's a lot of travel. Not as much as some of the other folks have,
03:21:46 but yeah, I've been, you know, I used to have global roles. And so look, I've seen all these
03:21:50 things happen. I've seen bad weather. I've seen delays. I've seen this stuff. Look, I agree with
03:21:56 you, this is the fact that
03:21:59 still copper wires, Sean,
03:22:02 King Katrina hit New Orle
03:22:05 of the 911 centers were t
03:22:07 why? Because they still u
03:22:09 way to go back in and rebu
03:22:11 So when you started in 2000
03:22:14 IP networks eclipse the co
03:22:17 so we started getting a l
03:22:19 capability of redundancy a
03:22:22 we could actually use. So
03:22:24 in a huge process. Look, this is not rip and replace. I replace my driveway. They can come
03:22:29 in, rip it out one day, put it in there. You don't do that with networks. You don't do that
03:22:33 with the internet. This is going to be a painful process. There will be some additional failures
03:22:37 before we finally get to that modern network. But FAA is just one part of it. We got the entire
03:22:42 federal government, DOD, the intelligence community. So much modernization is needed
03:22:47 across the entire government. Last quick answer. He said there's nothing completely certain right
03:22:53 now, specifically on a cyber attack possibility. Do you hold out that possibility?
03:23:01 Yeah, you know, it's with something like this, you've got to do the root cause analysis,
03:23:05 which means it's complex. It's a complex investigation. So you're going to work it
03:23:09 until you get down to the point of where you can say, can we definitively say it was internal,
03:23:14 external system failure? That's going to take still a few days. I think the indications right
03:23:19 now it doesn't appear to be. But again, we don't know what we know until we know what we don't know
03:23:23 right now we don't know all right morgan wright thank you we appreciate it coming up
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03:24:11 this would actually be a very good time to talk about um the article that yeah
03:24:20 yeah so guys a nice plug for what you're going to speak about on sunday yeah thanks goldie so this um
03:24:29 I know President Trump's been talking about the outdated system and infrastructure for a while.
03:24:36 So I wanted to talk about this article.
03:24:40 So the U.S. has one of the largest and most complex aviation networks as a whole in the world.
03:24:47 On a typical day, we're talking about tens of thousands of flights being flown across the country.
03:24:52 And it's interesting because even though the airplanes themselves have become incredibly sophisticated and advanced in their technology, a lot of the infrastructure that's used to actually manage the aircraft hasn't been necessarily kept up.
03:25:09 And so this is part of what the Trump administration has been pushing for, because this is something that they identified. And this article is from May of 2025, specifically examining the challenges that the Trump administration was facing with trying to modernize the American air traffic control system.
03:25:32 um and if you scroll down goldie you'll see um you'll see somewhere where it says um
03:25:41 aloha akbar jihad yeah yes and then it also says so um apparently there's um 51 out of 138 air
03:25:53 traffic control systems that were assessed as of this article so this is um like over a year ago
03:25:59 let me find it let me find it um just just type in like 51. yeah i'm gonna go to find i'm gonna
03:26:05 type it is it just a number 51 yeah all right there we go i found it yeah so so 51 of the 138
03:26:14 atc systems were assessed and were classified as being um unsustainable meaning that these
03:26:20 were systems that were dealing with either aging technology or any sort of reliability issues or
03:26:27 difficulties with maintaining or replacing critical infrastructure and critical components
03:26:32 and in some cases we're talking about infrastructures that's been in service for
03:26:36 decades so i was thinking maybe 70s but i i heard in that um new segment they were mentioning the
03:26:41 50s even potentially so really really old systems um and again like in these systems you have
03:26:48 specific radar installations that are detecting aircraft you have surveillance systems that are
03:26:53 tracking the positioning you have radio transmitters and receivers that actually allow controllers and
03:26:59 pilots to be able to communicate um and you know you have telecommunication systems that are
03:27:05 connecting all of those facilities together and so some of the faa's older telecommunications
03:27:12 infrastructure has also relied on some of this copper wiring that we were hearing about as well
03:27:17 um and and some older technology as well rather than some modern fiber optic network networks
03:27:24 that we are you know more accustomed to now for any sort of high speed data transmission
03:27:31 um and yeah so so that that could be a really big issue and when infrastructure gets older
03:27:38 you know spare parts become harder to obtain maintenance becomes more complicated and your
03:27:43 overall systems can become more increasingly difficult to actually integrate with newer
03:27:49 technology um and so you know the administration's been pushing for these upgrades and modernizations
03:27:55 um raise you know they they face challenges with um with the with the funding for it um but again
03:28:03 this would be a massive massive project and undertaking okay let's go back oh this is this
03:28:09 This is the ship.
03:28:10 This is also crazy.
03:28:11 Causing the ship to capsize and sink.
03:28:14 Over 100 people were on board.
03:28:17 And according to officials, thank God, all passengers are now.
03:28:21 Rose will speak more about this on Sunday.
03:28:23 So make sure you're following her.
03:28:24 We have 32 passengers from the cruise ship who are in our local hospital.
03:28:31 None with any type of critical injuries.
03:28:35 At this moment, the information that we have, we have zero people unaccounted for, which truly is a miracle.
03:28:46 All right, our own Christina Coleman is live with a full report tonight.
03:28:50 Christina, thank God everybody's okay.
03:28:52 I know, Sean, this is a very scary situation.
03:28:55 A massive search and rescue effort was carried out on the Mississippi River today
03:28:59 after a tanker apparently lost its steering and crashed right into a docked cruise ship,
03:29:04 causing it to sink and plunge passengers into the cold Mississippi River. At least 129 people
03:29:12 were on board at the time of the crash. Crews were able to rescue everyone. 32 people, including
03:29:18 two harbor police officers, were taken to the hospital and none of them were critically injured,
03:29:24 which is why the governor described the outcome of this collision as a literal miracle on the
03:29:29 Mississippi and President Trump thanked the governor and law enforcement saying in part quote
03:29:34 incredibly nobody was killed in this major collision thank you to the governor for your
03:29:39 outstanding leadership during this very agonizing period of time the NTSB is investigating what
03:29:46 caused this tanker to lose control prior to this collision Sean all right Christina Coleman thank
03:29:52 you for that report so why did this happen now the National Transportation Safety Board is now
03:29:57 launching a full investigation on scene in new orleans joining us now with more with more
03:30:02 former ntsp investigator charlie uh perera is with us charlie thank you for joining us
03:30:10 your initial thoughts on based just on the video that we see here
03:30:15 well you can see the the tanker uh going sideways in the river which should never happen so uh it
03:30:22 appears they lost steering which uh the initial report seemed to be confirming that that the
03:30:26 river pilot that was on board said they lost steering and so at this point the ntsv will be
03:30:33 doing an investigation and the vessel should have a voyage data reporter on board analogous to the
03:30:40 black boxes you hear about on airplanes and that should provide audio environment at the helm
03:30:46 station, as well as data for speed and steering and rudder angle and a multitude of other
03:30:55 parameters.
03:30:56 So hopefully they'll get a good investigation done pretty quickly.
03:30:59 When you talk about jet flight, for example, there's so much redundancy on those planes
03:31:04 that they make today that it has made flying even safer than driving a car.
03:31:10 Does the same kind of redundancy exist on the seas as well?
03:31:15 unfortunately no uh you don't have the uh kind of immediate hazard uh to that kind of stuff
03:31:23 the failures as uh as you do on an airplane so the double and triple redundancy that you get on
03:31:29 airliners um how frustrating is it to listen to these people when you could answer this so much
03:31:36 better and so much quicker you know i feel like i'd be more entertaining to watch right like
03:31:42 and my head's not as shiny
03:31:45 i mean it used to be the first time
03:31:49 mine listen mine was too mine was too people that were there and the people that work for
03:31:55 but you know i mean this is different agencies on the ground uh yeah responsible for saving lives
03:32:01 today yeah that's true uh the rescue scene to um happen pretty quickly that was fantastic
03:32:07 um you know but yeah when you when i saw it going uh sideways directly into the side of the uh the
03:32:14 cruise liner and then uh you know at that speed uh you know uh 14 500 tons gives me a weird feeling
03:32:23 to see like a ship you tanker in that orientation in the water it's actually scary five or it's very
03:32:29 under the side of that cruise ship uh you know that was going to be catastrophic
03:32:33 structurally it was just an incredible blessing that the majority of the background music comes
03:32:38 it means they want to cut them off in the previous two hours had that uh had that thing been full of
03:32:44 passengers it would have been catastrophic charlie perere thank you coming up more breaking coverage
03:32:50 of the nationwide ground stop affecting over 20 000 flights as we continue this friday night
03:32:59 wow okay so we're not going to get to the american commercials because american commercials
03:33:03 are weird. But let's get to some of the questions and comments and super chats. And then we're going
03:33:10 to call it a night because I think we pretty much have all the info that we're going to get tonight.
03:33:17 If for some crazy, weird reason, President Trump decides to go live, I will restart the live
03:33:24 stream. Rose will probably be asleep by then, but that's okay because, sorry, she's going live on
03:33:32 sunday and she's gonna be speaking all about this so make sure that you're following her
03:33:37 on her live stream channel the gamma ray report you can find it the link is in the live stream chat
03:33:42 so um let's get the super chat so we have um s marie says irgc lie either way um yes absolutely
03:33:54 that's true they're always lying and they mix of irgc with the iranian people next we have um
03:34:03 oh yeah here we go rose is the plain whisperer we need you in here now drink up let's go 0.61
03:34:10 oh that was from earlier yeah this is from earlier when i was trying to convince you to come on yeah
03:34:17 so rose is definitely the plain whisperer and we're so lucky she's here because she is literally
03:34:21 the voice of reason thanks for having me guys love you um mordred says airports closed because
03:34:29 US armed forces are turning the IRGC into rubble. I hope so from your lips to God's ears. But let's 0.52
03:34:36 see what the real reason is. As Marie says people are saying something more could happen on the 17th
03:34:43 with a nationwide emergency alert. Has anyone else been seeing this? No idea. I mean, there's
03:34:49 a lot of conspiracy theories going out. There are lots of rumors. We have to wait and see, I guess.
03:34:56 but uh the islamic regime is very good at manufacturing conspiracy theories and fear 1.00
03:35:03 so don't take anything seriously unless and until you have confirmation from american authorities 0.88
03:35:10 uh walter beck says all we know about the air traffic control is there was no control it kind
03:35:16 of sounds like the alien conspiracy theory we watched it's not really a conspiracy theory
03:35:22 though because it actually happened so the the the iran one from the incident happened what we
03:35:29 don't know is whether what we don't know for sure is whether it was caused by aliens or not yeah
03:35:34 well that's because the united states never released the footage or the document guys keep
03:35:39 in mind that alien um the alien appearance that happened in iran in the 1970s um the shah of
03:35:49 Iran reached out to the United States and the United States, uh, sent their, you know, their
03:35:55 fighter jets to fly over Iran to figure out what was going on. And then, um, Iran and America were
03:36:03 working together. And then after the, you know, jihadi Muslims took over Iran, America was like, 0.92
03:36:10 oh, we're not gonna like share our info with you anymore. So, um, there's a lot of info there that
03:36:16 should have been declassified but it wasn't because the durkas took over iran so i don't
03:36:22 know man i feel like aliens did actually show up in iran and america has the proof but we actually
03:36:29 did a live stream on that so you guys can go and watch it yeah yeah that was a fun one it was um
03:36:36 old blindy says goldie does rose weigh as much as a duck so this is a monty python joke it's a
03:36:44 monty python reference do you know which i don't and i do have to say a few weeks ago old blindy
03:36:50 sent this comment to me and i had no idea what he was talking about and i was trying to like
03:36:55 answer it in like a smart way and then people were like no rose this is monty python reference i have
03:37:02 no idea what it was but how about how about you explain it to us to me okay you know what i'll do
03:37:11 you one better i'll do you one better uh if you show it you'll probably get a strike well we'll
03:37:20 just have to like well i just have to delete the clip afterwards right but uh um it's from
03:37:26 literally one of my favorite movies ever monty python and the holy grail it is such a hilarious
03:37:32 movie um and and what's funny is that when people were like oh rose this is monty python