Goldie Ghamari - Did Mythraism Influence Early Christianity？ - WATCH PARTY

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00:02:00.000 well good evening everyone welcome to the evening live stream of the goldie show i'm your host

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00:05:07.680 watched. So for those of you who might not have tuned into my evening live stream, so during the

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00:06:03.540 enjoying these watch parties and I'm really, um, enjoying all of your comments as well. So

00:06:09.320 I don't know if I'm going to have much to say on this particular topic. This was recommended,

00:06:14.680 this particular video was recommended to me by a friend. Um, you know, just like most of the

00:06:20.880 documentaries, I'm going into this blind. So I have no idea what to expect. Um, this one doesn't

00:06:29.900 really have much to do with modern day politics. It's kind of more, um, religion based historical

00:06:36.380 religions. So yeah, let's, um, let's get into, and yes, I do. I do have a new necklace. Someone,

00:06:45.680 um, someone gave me, um, uh, a Farber had pendant. This one's made out of wood and I'm adding it to

00:06:53.420 my collection. So, okay. So this documentary is called Mithras and Jesus. How did Mithras

00:07:03.020 influence early Christianity with Dr. Jason Reza Giorgiani? So let's dive right in and see what

00:07:14.280 this is all about. And again, this isn't me like endorsing anything. This is just a watch party.

00:07:22.640 you know, we'll watch it together and maybe learn something, maybe not. Again,

00:07:27.460 I'm going into this blind, so I have no idea what to expect, but here we go.

00:07:37.940 Mithraism and its influence on early Christianity. I hope you guys enjoy this show. Jason Giorgiani's

00:07:44.020 done a lot of research and he's delved into everything from the Persian Mithras to...

00:07:48.800 oh wait someone said the title is different on my screen oh my gosh thank you for letting me

00:07:53.840 though there we go i changed the title all right there you go so some technical difficulties but uh

00:08:00.400 um mark and so mark and thank you for the shout out thank you for letting me know the title was

00:08:08.720 wrong i just fixed it so um yeah let's go and for those asking yes this is real live right now so

00:08:20.240 all right let's go roman mithraism and all the mithraism as it influenced christianity with

00:08:26.880 zoriastrianism a variety of different divine entities apart from jesus christ may have had

00:08:33.600 serious influence on Christianity as it developed throughout history and possibly even at its root.

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00:09:06.140 supporting what we do here myth vision we are myth vision welcome back ladies and gentlemen

00:09:25.700 your host derrick lambert myth vision pop he's you know what he's kind of a little bit dramatic

00:09:31.560 should i guys should i start doing that where it's like i just i have a black background and

00:09:37.640 i wear all black and then i only have the light focus on my face like should i start doing that

00:09:42.600 i don't know like that seems it seems a little bit overly dramatic but i mean maybe maybe it works

00:09:49.960 for him podcast today i have a very important show i want to bring to you we have not discussed this

00:09:56.920 topic yet you are going to want to stay tuned all the way to the end it's going to be full of

00:10:01.480 information you've probably never heard of and a guest that you've probably never heard of and if

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00:10:10.760 button jason georgeni how are you my friend i'm good it's a pleasure to be with you derek you too

00:10:17.560 thank you okay guys guys guys guys guys um wait i need to go back a little bit do you know what

00:10:24.840 that banner is wait where did it go where'd it go i i have to call this like i have to

00:10:33.480 okay what i missed it okay let me well hey you got to tell us something about them because

00:10:40.520 wait okay i went back too far i got really excited here good at uniting uh scholars geez okay

00:10:47.480 there's there's something i saw and i just i have to point it out before we even get started

00:10:57.480 because yeah did i actually did i have to call you any so let me all right

00:11:06.920 let me just wait for this vision podcast and then i have a very important

00:11:12.120 though i want to bring to you we have not discussed this topic yet you are going to

00:11:16.200 want to stay tuned all the way to the end it's going to be full of information you've probably

00:11:20.200 never heard of and a guest that you've probably never heard of and if you have make sure you

00:11:24.440 chatter his name down in the comments section show some love hit that like button jason georgiani

00:11:30.280 how are you my friend i'm good it's okay there we go so i saw it correctly okay so guys do you see

00:11:40.520 um that square banner just to the oh i guess if if we're like mirror facing it would be like

00:11:50.280 over his right shoulder so that banner um where you it's like the red um red yellow and purple

00:11:59.080 banner um that is the didaf was it kayani or kaviani right um oh someone asked me

00:12:12.280 can i read and understand farsi yes i can read and understand farsi um but if you like if you

00:12:19.800 type something in farsi in the live chat um i can't respond back in farsi like typing

00:12:26.600 just because my my laptop like my keyboard is in english so i mean i can read farsi comments i can

00:12:33.080 understand them i just can't respond to them on my my laptop um in farsi so no let me let me bring

00:12:42.520 this up for you um sorry i just i want to pull this up because this is this is like that's um

00:12:52.840 um wow okay so wait where's where's the i want to find the wikipedia here wait what's going on um

00:13:07.720 here we go let me let me pull up the wikipedia

00:13:11.240 website so um and let me just add my screen here

00:13:15.800 I don't usually go to Wikipedia, but in this case, I mean, I'll let you guys know if they

00:13:24.240 say anything that is inaccurate. So, okay. So do you, do you see this, um, this image here,

00:13:31.620 right? So this, this is what, um, Dr. Georgiani has behind him over his, um, over his right

00:13:39.420 shoulder. So here is the interesting history behind it. So the Deraf Shakabiani is one of the

00:13:47.560 most ancient symbols in Iranian history, first definitively attested on coinage over 2,300 years

00:13:59.460 ago. It was also the official standard of the Sasanian Empire. It is identified with several

00:14:07.680 figures in Iranian mythology, namely Kobe the blacksmith, but also Jamshid and Fereidun.

00:14:14.040 The symbols are rooted in legendary accounts dating back to the Akhamenid empire. In light

00:14:21.960 of the Muslim conquest of Iran, the Derafsh became especially significant as a representation

00:14:30.380 of Iranian nationalism, which was the driving force behind Iranian intermezzo. Today, it

00:14:40.140 continues to feature in Iranian culture, particularly literature, and is used by the

00:14:46.760 Republic of Tajikistan as official heraldry. That's because Tajikistan used to be part of

00:14:54.600 Persian empire and, you know, um, people in Iran and, you know, Tajiks in Tajikistan, um, we share

00:15:03.080 very similar bloodlines. We basically speak the same language. So, um, the dialect of Persian

00:15:09.960 that Tajiks speak, we Iranians can understand. And, you know, when we speak, um, Persian Tajiks

00:15:18.080 can understand us as well. So, um, there you go. Very, very interesting. So, I mean, yeah,

00:15:24.840 like guys, like Iranian civilization in history goes back thousands and thousands and thousands

00:15:31.180 of years. And the Daraf Shekhoviani is one example of that. Like, like literally we,

00:15:39.120 um, our civilization pretty much existed for thousands of years before Islam was even invented.

00:15:45.140 So there you go. Now, um, now you learned a little bit of Persian history. So that's why I got excited

00:15:52.680 guys, because, um, yeah, that's, I like that. I like that. So, um, I actually need to get like

00:16:02.600 a Dadaf Shekhovian flag for, um, my background here, but all right, let's, let's go back to,

00:16:08.400 um, this podcast. I'm already liking this Dr. Georgiani, just the fact that he has a Dadaf

00:16:14.860 to me that's like extra bonus points right there good to be with you derek you too thank you for

00:16:22.620 coming and joining me on the show uh you me uh kind of sparked off a good conversation and i said

00:16:28.040 man we're gonna have like more than one show with you on this on this program oh yeah well you know

00:16:32.900 i used to teach comparative religion so i'm sure there's a lot of material that we could cover in

00:16:37.080 subsequent programs as well yeah you definitely had a wealth of knowledge i remember seeing you

00:16:42.260 on uh david whitehead's uh show and i said wow this guy's full of information in fact i didn't

00:16:48.340 know much about mithraism at all um you know i'm just a student i'm nobody of any scholar i'm just

00:16:55.700 i guess a good vocal piece and um good at uniting scholars and making communication happen and

00:17:02.580 i saw you and him and um i said man i gotta talk to this guy one day and here we are well here we

00:17:10.100 are yeah all right someone someone says oh abar says how much you are beautiful when you say they

00:17:17.380 have shikami on you with iranian accent okay okay i don't know so yeah like some iranian words you

00:17:32.980 just you have to say in in persian right like how do you say that after koviani with an english

00:17:38.020 accent i don't know so anyways there you go yes are you involved in the martial arts do you know

00:17:43.780 david through martial arts or i don't but uh i was in jujitsu growing up and i'd done other

00:17:48.740 other things as well my father's actually green brain the special forces so he retired recently

00:17:54.040 so well i don't know how you're gonna take this but you definitely look the type

00:17:57.660 thank you yeah no i always get the military discounts so it is what it is it's okay i was

00:18:04.480 raised this way back in the classical world you would have belonged to one of the mithraic

00:18:08.340 brotherhoods really yeah well hey you got to tell us something about them because i have um i still

00:18:15.960 have very little knowledge today when we look at christianity or we look at you know catholicism

00:18:21.800 or even buddhism or muslim faith that you know islam we understand a little bit about what it

00:18:27.800 is and what it means and it seems like mithraism almost like you would look at like zoriastrianism

00:18:33.440 people don't know what that is what is mithraism mithra what is the belief can

00:18:39.160 you give us a general outline of what that is and then we can go from there

00:18:42.260 and its influence into Christianity sure so the first thing that a Christian

00:18:48.640 would probably want to know about mithraism is that like Christianity

00:18:55.220 which as we're going to see was deeply influenced by it mithraism is a savior

00:19:00.880 religion that is structured around a teleological conception of time and

00:19:05.840 history. In other words, there is an apocalypse at the end of history and

00:19:11.120 Mithra is a kind of savior figure and he's also both the god of light and of

00:19:17.760 love. So right away there you have a deep structural, well I was about to say

00:19:23.380 parallel but really what it is is a prototype for Christianity. So in Iran

00:19:32.320 and in the ancient period there was a religion known as Zoroastrianism and

00:19:39.820 Zoroastrianism became famous to Christians beginning with Saint Augustine

00:19:46.260 because it was pointed out by Christian theologians particularly in the

00:19:50.960 Catholic Church, that Zoroastrianism did not face the problem of evil. In other words, if you have 0.71

00:19:59.180 an all-knowing and an all-powerful God, doesn't that take free will away from humanity and doesn't

00:20:06.280 it make God responsible for all the evil in the world, right? And the Christian theologians,

00:20:11.540 particularly St. Augustine, beginning with him and onward, noted that Zoroastrianism,

00:20:17.060 the religion of ancient iran did not face this problem because you have two uh co-equal deities

00:20:26.340 the good god uh the god of light uh the god of wisdom the lord of wisdom is neither uh omnipotent

00:20:35.380 uh nor omniscient uh he is a force of creation and evolution and um a progressive mentality

00:20:46.020 a progressive spirit that you can align yourself with through your free choice but he's not all

00:20:51.060 powerful and so therefore the evil of the world is uh safely attributable to a counter deity

00:20:59.540 ahriman a lord of deceit and darkness and you have so this uh dualism on a metaphysical level

00:21:08.340 so um kind of weird like i mean he it's just weird hearing like ahriman with like an english

00:21:15.940 accent, like it's Ahriman, right? Like it's Ahriman, but I get, I get it. So to the person

00:21:22.500 who was like, oh, you're pronouncing Deraf Shekhoviani in Farsi, yeah, Ahriman as well,

00:21:26.780 I would say that with, you know, an Iranian accent. And on a moral level, it's a lot clearer

00:21:32.640 than the dualism that we wound up taking shape in Christianity, largely under Zoroastrian influence.

00:21:39.660 So in this context of the Zoroastrian worldview, there was a myth that the two gods, the good god

00:21:50.460 and the evil god, divided dominion over this earth through the course of several successive

00:21:58.940 epochs. So they came to an agreement with one another that each of them will be the lord of

00:22:04.280 this world for a certain epoch, for a certain world age.

00:22:08.520 And the mediating figure which closes the contract

00:22:13.100 between these two deities is Mithra.

00:22:16.020 Mithra was the god of oaths and contracts.

00:22:19.800 People would swear by Mithra whenever they entered

00:22:22.500 into a contract with one another.

00:22:25.040 And Mithra basically seals the deal

00:22:27.720 between Ahura Mazda, the good god, 0.84

00:22:30.800 And Ahriman, the evil deity, with respect to what periods they're going to rule this world for until the end of time, until the apocalypse.

00:22:42.240 And at the apocalypse.

00:22:44.720 So just to give you guys a little bit of context, I just I pulled this up.

00:22:50.360 So Mithra is an ancient Iranian god of covenants, light, truth and justice, closely linked to the sun.

00:23:00.800 who became prominent in the Greco-Roman world throughout the secretive Mithraic mystery cult,

00:23:08.100 popular among Roman soldiers, known for its complex initiation rites and cave worship.

00:23:15.440 While sharing solar aspects, the Persian Mithra and Roman Mithras are distinct,

00:23:21.420 with the Roman version focusing on a mystery religion with seven grades and a birth from a rock,

00:23:27.500 unlike Christian narratives, though both were associated with December 25th as a festival day.

00:23:35.060 Very interesting. So there you go. Mithra is an ancient Iranian god of covenants, light,

00:23:40.980 truth, and justice. All right, that's what I get from like a quick Google search,

00:23:46.800 but I'm not an expert on this. Let's wait and see what Dr. Georgiani has to say. But, you know,

00:23:53.060 maybe there's a little bit of context for those of you who have no idea or no clue about who or

00:23:59.480 what Mithra was. In some ancient Iranian myths, Mithra is seen as the savior who manifests in

00:24:08.740 this world in order to preside over the last judgment, in order to offer people a final choice

00:24:16.200 between the forces of good and evil. That's fascinating. That sounds a lot like what we've

00:24:22.560 been taught about jesus in in of course christianity in a lot of ways um i'm sure there's

00:24:27.840 differences and you know people love to point those out and dwell on those because there's a

00:24:32.380 lot of scholars that you know i've been noticing who claim no parallels oh no there's there's no

00:24:38.500 parallels and a lot of them i think take more of a historicity angle on jesus so when they take a

00:24:45.460 more real literal jesus of course they're not able to parallel so much uh to someone like mithras

00:24:52.340 or something else because well they have a real historical jew and they go well in judaism 0.70

00:24:59.300 this is completely foreign so they look at christianity and say this is just a natural

00:25:03.220 evolution of judaism but doesn't judaism borrow from zoriastrianism and mithraism and i mean isn't

00:25:09.620 this like hey yeah it's it's not at all a natural evolution so before we get into the numerous uh

00:25:17.140 influences that Mithraism had on Christianity, let's just back up a little bit and see how

00:25:23.780 Judaism was radically transformed by Zoroastrianism as a precursor, you know, to Christianity,

00:25:31.080 late Judaism as a precursor to Christianity. So if you, you know, pay close attention to the

00:25:36.940 to the Torah, to the books of Moses, the first part of the Tanakh or the Jewish Bible,

00:25:43.140 the Old Testament. You'll see that. There's no conception of heaven. The afterlife is described

00:25:52.100 as an underworld of shades, very similar to the Hades idea of the Greeks. They have this underworld

00:25:59.180 called shul, which is the realm of shades, the realm of the dead. And there's no distinction 0.80

00:26:05.960 necessarily between the lot of a righteous person and that of a sinner uh you also

00:26:13.320 don't have this apocalyptic conception of history in early judaism there's no sense that 0.98

00:26:18.680 you know the world is unfolding through a successive series of ages that will culminate

00:26:24.520 in some revolutionary turn of events some uh apocalypse after which you know we will live in

00:26:31.000 some kind of post-human condition that so i would be interested to hear i know um we have a lot of

00:26:38.440 um jewish people who are watching this live stream i would be interested in hearing your thoughts on

00:26:43.160 this again like i'm you know when it comes to like history and um you know religion and you know

00:26:51.720 theology and all that stuff like i'm not an expert on this um i do know that there are you know

00:26:56.760 different conflicting views um obviously this is one perspective um what i know is that both

00:27:03.400 zoroastrianism and judaism are two of the oldest religions you know some historians say judaism

00:27:09.400 is older some say zoroastrianism is older um i don't really think it's a competition or contest

00:27:15.320 obviously like different opinions different schools of thoughts so um i'm i'm just watching

00:27:20.920 i'm just learning but i would be interested um in in getting your perspective on uh you know the

00:27:27.720 live chat as well um because yeah i mean this is this is fascinating for me and i always i always

00:27:35.000 enjoy um learning about ancient history especially because it's like we're talking about things

00:27:41.160 that were happening like three thousand four thousand five thousand years ago um always

00:27:45.880 interesting to to see what the different perspectives are and how people come up with um

00:27:52.840 with with with their theories and you know with their knowledge and of course there's always

00:27:56.520 competing theories there as well so yeah there we go very very interesting stuff um so for someone

00:28:02.600 in the live chat was asking me um no i'm not jewish i'm not israeli i am 100 um full-blooded

00:28:11.240 Iranian, my ancestry and lineage actually goes back to Elam. So there you go.

00:28:19.680 It is not authentic to Judaism, to early Judaism. You also don't have the savior figure. The figure 0.70

00:28:27.960 of the Moshiach, the coming savior, does not emerge in Judaism until after the Babylonian

00:28:35.000 exile comes to an end until after Cyrus the Great, the founder of the Persian Empire, the 0.75

00:28:42.280 founding father of Iran, you could say, liberates the Jews from Babylon. So it's only after that 0.81

00:28:49.560 that you see the idea of heaven and hell emerge in Judaism. So he makes a very interesting point. 0.86

00:28:57.480 Cyrus the Great, the founder of the Persian Empire, I mean, this is historical fact,

00:29:01.320 undisputed um he did free the jews from their babylonian enslavement took them back to the

00:29:06.920 promised land which was israel and helped them rebuild the second temple of jerusalem um and

00:29:12.840 he is referred to um by jewish people as the messiah the messiah um even though he wasn't

00:29:22.360 jewish he was actually iranian he was zoroastrian so um that's that's interesting a lot of a

00:29:30.040 righteous person and that of a sinner. You also don't have this apocalyptic conception of history

00:29:38.840 in early Judaism. There's no sense that. Yeah, I just I just went back a little bit because I

00:29:42.840 wanted to re-listen to the part about Cyrus the Great. You know the world is unfolding through

00:29:50.440 a successive series of ages that will culminate in some revolutionary turn of events, some apocalypse

00:29:58.280 after which you know we will live in some kind of post-human condition that is not uh authentic to

00:30:05.480 judaism to early judaism you also don't have the savior figure the the figure of the moshiach the

00:30:12.520 coming savior does not emerge in judaism until after the babylonian exile uh comes to an end

00:30:20.280 until after cyrus the great the founder of the persian empire the uh founding father of iran you

00:30:27.000 you could say, liberates the Jews from Babylon. 0.63

00:30:31.240 So it's only after that that you see the idea 0.96

00:30:34.860 of heaven and hell emerge in Judaism. 0.97

00:30:37.440 Only after that do you see a savior figure 0.82

00:30:40.400 become part of Jewish theology. 0.54

00:30:43.060 And only after that do you have a notion

00:30:46.080 of teleological history, of goal-directed,

00:30:48.980 purposeful progression of history towards an apocalypse.

00:30:53.680 And perhaps more importantly than all of those things,

00:30:56.920 If you pay close attention to Exodus,

00:30:59.180 and this will piss off a lot of evangelical Christians,

00:31:02.460 but it's a fact, if you pay close attention to Exodus,

00:31:04.780 you see that there is no conception

00:31:07.140 of individual conscience or personal righteousness.

00:31:10.940 You are judged based on the sins

00:31:13.920 of your forefathers and ancestors,

00:31:16.380 and you are rewarded based on the righteousness

00:31:19.020 of those in your bloodline who came before you.

00:31:21.720 The god of the Torah, of the books of Moses, does not judge people based on their individual

00:31:30.180 conscience, and he punishes people for misdeeds that are not their own.

00:31:34.020 So the core of all Zoroastrianism, the core of, well, frankly, both Zoroastrianism and

00:31:40.780 Mithraism of ancient Iranian religion in general is the idea of personal responsibility,

00:31:45.840 individual conscience, free will. And so I think this is another core idea of Christianity that

00:31:56.520 emerges from out of the Persian influence on Judaism, beginning with Cyrus the Great.

00:32:04.920 Wow, very interesting. So one of our members asked, so Michael Feldman is asking,

00:32:10.420 is Cyrus's grave maintained or did Islamists destroy it? So, um, after like, like during the

00:32:17.520 1979 Islamic revolution, in fact, the Islamic ayatollahs started making calls and demands

00:32:25.040 for the destruction of the tomb of Cyrus the Great. However, um, local Iranians, when they 0.96

00:32:31.880 found out what the, um, Muslim clerics were planning on doing, local Iranians went to the

00:32:38.520 tomb of Cyrus the Great. They surrounded it, made like a human wall, and they prevented the Islamists

00:32:44.360 and jihadis from destroying the tomb of Cyrus the Great. However, the tomb is currently in

00:32:53.120 disrepair. The Islamic Republic does nothing to maintain it. They're basically hoping that just 0.98

00:32:58.800 through just ignoring it, that the tomb will eventually just go into ruin.

00:33:08.520 But many local Iranians, like many Iranians who are local to the area, they try to maintain the tomb of Cyrus the Great using their own funds and their own resources. 0.89

00:33:22.760 Actually, I can show you what the tomb of Cyrus the Great looks like. 1.00

00:33:26.640 Here, let me pull it up for you.

00:33:29.920 Here we go.

00:33:33.460 I've actually been there, guys.

00:33:34.980 I've actually been to the tomb of Cyrus the Great.

00:33:36.920 Yep. I was there when I visited Iran. You know, when I was younger, I visited and, you know, I was, you know, blessed. I was blessed to have the opportunity to visit the tomb of Cyrus the Great. So here, I'll show you what it looks like. There you go.

00:33:55.600 So that is the tomb of Cyrus the Great. And every, you know, every major Iranian celebration, you know, non-Islamic, right? Every major Iranian celebration, Iranians will go to the tomb of Cyrus the Great and they will celebrate there. 0.92

00:34:14.280 So even though the tomb is literally in a state of disrepair, it's in the desert, there's like nothing like guys, this should be like, this could be the biggest tourist attraction in the world, right in the world. And yet it is in a state of disrepair. There's nothing around. It is just, you know, the worst tourist attraction. Why? Because the Islamic regime hates everything that symbolizes pre-Islamic Iran.

00:34:44.160 and because cyrus the great was a austrian and he was the founder of the persian empire um the

00:34:49.840 islamic republic hates him because you know he has nothing to do with islam and um one of the

00:34:55.520 reasons that we iranians are proud of our identity is because of cyrus the great the founder of the

00:35:02.080 persian empire so yeah and you know it's really interesting one of one of the chants you know

00:35:07.840 that iranians make is that um we're not descended from arabs we're descended from cyrus the great

00:35:14.160 We are the children of Cyrus the Great. And so, yeah, this is the tomb of Cyrus the Great.

00:35:22.240 And, you know, this should be like, there's so much that could be done with this. And yet

00:35:29.880 the Islamic regime is just ignoring it. They don't maintain it. It's in a state of disrepair. 0.76

00:35:35.280 And as you can see, like, there's literally nothing around, right? Like, you just see,

00:35:38.820 like a few like trees, right? Like you just see like some random bushes, right? And then, you

00:35:45.320 know, it's just desert. Like you would think that the tomb of the founder of the Persian empire

00:35:52.580 would be well maintained. You know, there would be like a whole, maybe like theme park around it,

00:35:58.740 or, you know, museums, historical artifacts, something, absolutely nothing. It's just this.

00:36:05.020 And yeah, I mean, this is what Islamic colonizers do, right? Like they constantly try to destroy 1.00

00:36:13.020 and erase the history of civilizations that existed prior to Islam. And for the person in 0.99

00:36:24.000 the chat who says they're under sanctions, how do you expect them to maintain? You're an idiot. 1.00

00:36:29.980 The sanctions have nothing to do with maintaining historical sites. 1.00

00:36:35.040 The sanctions have to do with, you know, not allowing the Islamic Republic to have access to military weapons. 0.77

00:36:42.740 So stop being an apologist for Islamic terrorists. 0.59

00:36:47.400 And yeah, maybe open, you know, maybe take some time to listen to actual Iranians when we're talking about our history.

00:36:54.660 and don't try to iransplain our country to us especially when we're talking about how 0.99

00:37:01.380 islamic terrorists are trying to erase and destroy our identity i'm glad that there are 0.99

00:37:08.200 sanctions on the islamic republic all right let's get back to the show 1.00

00:37:12.980 i should have started out asking if uh are any of these things these items written in your

00:37:23.060 books and which books uh would you recommend people definitely check out because i'd like to

00:37:29.000 do some further digging myself and i've went on amazon it seems like you have like six or seven

00:37:33.320 different books on amazon if i'm not mistaken that's right that's right there are two books

00:37:37.000 that focus primarily on uh iran um and one of them the one that's most relevant to this discussion

00:37:43.640 is iranian leviathan um so to the person who said that um the person who said in the comments

00:37:51.760 $7,000 daily. Actually, I'm worth way more than that. So I actually get $7,000 per second. So

00:38:01.420 every second that I'm live streaming, I get $7,000 from Mossad. Thank you very much. Do not

00:38:08.740 discount my worth. I'm worth way more than $7,000 a day. Which is subtitled A Monumental History

00:38:15.680 of Mithra's Abode, where I'm arguing that Mithraism is the red thread through all of Iranian

00:38:21.600 history, all the way even through the Islamic conquest and into quote-unquote Islamic mysticism.

00:38:29.220 So in this book, Iranian Leviathan, I go on at length about the creation of Judaism as we know

00:38:35.880 it. And I argue that Judaism, as opposed to ancient Israelite religion, Judaism is an Iranian

00:38:42.800 creation. The kind of Judaism that then develops into Christianity is already a creation of the 0.95

00:38:49.440 Achaemenid priestly and royal elite beginning about, you know, 530s, 550s to 530s AD. I mean, 0.86

00:38:58.920 I'm sorry, BC. About 500 years before Christ, the Achaemenid royal and priestly elite, the Magi,

00:39:08.100 three of whom wind up at the birth of Jesus. Guys, okay, so, okay, wait, I have to make a note of

00:39:15.060 this. I have to make a note of this because in my earlier live stream today, someone asked me to

00:39:21.960 make a video, um, or do a live stream about how the three wise men who visited Jesus Christ when

00:39:29.780 he was born were Zoroastrian. And I was like, yeah, sure. I was like, I'll look into it. And 0.95

00:39:34.420 then now he just mentioned this. So, okay, let me just like write this down and I need to do like

00:39:39.300 a timestamp. So 13, 19. All right. Okay. So this way, like I won't, I won't forget. And I can like

00:39:45.940 refer back to this when I make my video. Nice wig. Thank you. Yeah. I mean, my wig is really,

00:39:52.540 really nice. Yeah. Maybe, maybe I'll wear my blonde wig tomorrow. Sorry. I just, the trolls

00:40:02.440 are so funny. They, they have like nothing to come up with. So they're like nice wig. So, okay.

00:40:07.040 sure. I mean, if that's the best, you can pull on it. I don't know. There you go. I don't know.

00:40:15.300 What am I supposed to do? Anyways. Let me fix my thing now. Okay. So yeah. All right. Okay. So I

00:40:26.960 have it at 1319. All right. So now I know where to go to talk, to get information about the three

00:40:33.740 wise then. I'm going to go back. In Leviathan, I go on at length about the creation of Judaism as

00:40:39.380 we know it. And I argue that Judaism, as opposed to ancient Israelite religion, Judaism is an 0.63

00:40:46.480 Iranian creation. The kind of Judaism that then develops into Christianity is already a creation 0.97

00:40:53.000 of the Achaemenid priestly and royal elite beginning about, you know, 530s, 550s to 530s 0.69

00:41:01.600 A.D. I mean, I'm sorry, B.C. About 500 years before Christ, the Achaemenid royal and priestly

00:41:10.380 elite, the Magi, three of whom wind up at the birth of Jesus, the Magi together with 0.89

00:41:17.160 the royal family of the Achaemenids basically reshape Judaism radically at the same time as 0.93

00:41:27.300 they integrate the babylonian jews into the administrative and economic structure of the

00:41:32.900 persian empire so there's a full treatment of that subject in this book gotta get it definitely get

00:41:38.580 the book go down in the description make sure you guys get his uh his material and uh do you have um

00:41:43.860 is any of this stuff ebook too yeah i think uh i think almost all of my books are available in an

00:41:51.060 ebook kindle format and iranian leviathan definitely is awesome awesome okay make sure

00:41:56.820 you guys check that out i'm definitely going to do that and show him some love so we can have him

00:41:59.900 back on the show um so jason this this notion and i don't want to get lost in the apocalypse but

00:42:07.240 it fascinates me right now it's something i definitely want to look into because

00:42:11.560 there are what are called preterist and this is a theological movement of course within christendom

00:42:17.080 and there are what called full preterist now anyone who watches my show knows there that's

00:42:22.420 such a minor. Why do you bring them up all the time? Guys, this was my deconstruction from

00:42:27.100 Christianity. So I kind of bring up what's relevant to me. I was looking at the New Testament

00:42:32.580 and over and over and over, I would find these places which gave these time statements

00:42:37.080 that the end was supposed to happen like soon. I mean, the resurrection from the dead,

00:42:43.700 the apocalypse, the whole nine. And the way that we as full preterist defended Jesus is we said,

00:42:50.040 well, it did happen. It just, it didn't happen the way that everybody was thinking it was supposed

00:42:54.540 to happen. There was no earth consuming fire. It was the temple. The resurrection from the dead

00:43:02.060 was most likely spiritual, even though there's some that literally believe like all the saints

00:43:06.560 were physically resurrected and somehow gathered into the sky. They're more fundamentalist than

00:43:11.260 anyone I know. We took more of a spiritual approach to try and get around that. And

00:43:15.880 and everything we did we try to say well he said it was supposed to happen soon

00:43:19.480 we believe it did happen soon uh so we try to find a way around it this apocalypse this this

00:43:26.100 this end of time end of history notion that it shouldn't be interpreted that way right wouldn't

00:43:33.480 you correctly say that it would be like this is supposed to be the actual end or yes that's right

00:43:38.920 and it's an it's an entirely iranian idea this idea does not appear in any culture anywhere

00:43:45.260 in world history before it appears in the teachings of Zarathustra at least about 600 BC

00:43:53.300 in Iran. And it's the idea of, as you put it, a world-consuming fire. It's called fresh guard

00:44:01.920 in Persian, which means, you know, Persian is related to the European languages. There's a

00:44:07.440 language family called Indo-European or the Aryan languages. And so Persian is not at all related

00:44:13.400 to arabic grammatically or to any of the semitic languages like hebrew persian is like a european

00:44:18.520 language and so fresh that that part is definitely true yeah you can hear the word fresh in it

00:44:25.880 fresh fresh god uh it means the freshening of the world the refreshing of the world

00:44:32.120 and now chemical fire that consumes the whole earth and transmutes it into a perfected form

00:44:38.600 namely the kingdom of God. That is a Zoroastrian idea that is from at least 600 BC and it's what 0.96

00:44:47.520 you see Jesus quoting when he says, you know, I've come to bring fire upon the earth and so on and so

00:44:55.540 forth when he describes this conflagration at the end of history. Interesting because this is what

00:45:05.340 I've been going back on now that I've deconstructed is I'm like, hey, well, what if this whole thing's

00:45:11.680 wrong? What if I'm wrong about some of this stuff? Or what if I thought wrong? And I'm doing that

00:45:16.620 with a lot of different things. And Mithraism, I've heard a lot of scholars try to push that

00:45:22.880 down. And they try to equate this, this comparison between Mithraism and Christianity is equal to

00:45:30.080 saying Jesus is Horus, and then they throw everything under the bus, say it's all zeitgeist,

00:45:34.420 and you're trying to do the zeitgeist movie thing um do you want to take us down the path of uh

00:45:39.700 how mithraism not only you you showed that it influenced judaism but how it goes from judaism

00:45:46.740 and it influences christianity and in what ways so i mean zoroastrianism uh really you could say

00:45:53.380 influenced judaism more although and this is going to get it just for a moment a little bit

00:45:58.500 complicated but i refer people to my book although the main ideas that you see in late judaism

00:46:07.220 uh have their prototype in zoroastrianism i make a fairly uh rigorous argument in iranian leviathan

00:46:15.380 that the people in the persian imperial elite who transformed judaism in that way

00:46:22.180 were themselves mithrists like for example cyrus the great um he has a mithraic solar lotus

00:46:30.180 engraved on his tomb and to the person who says you know free ballastine and end the occupation 0.98

00:46:37.700 i agree we need to free ballastine from the arab muslim invaders and send them back to egypt or 0.98

00:46:43.540 jordan where they belong ballastine is literally the fakest you know country um in the world and 1.00

00:46:50.740 And I think that both Gaza and Judea and Samaria should go back to Israel and the whole thing should be Israel. 1.00

00:46:59.560 So, yeah, free Palestine from the Arab Muslim jihadi invaders and they can go back to the Arabian Peninsula where they belong. 1.00

00:47:11.020 And he left instructions for Mithraic horse sacrifices to take place on a regular basis at his tomb. 0.99

00:47:18.240 So there's evidence that Cyrus himself was a Mithras and you can also see evidence that Xerxes and subsequent Achaemenid monarchs were Mithras. In any case, although some of these core ideas in late Judaism are Zoroastrian in origin, as Judaism transitions into Christianity, you're dealing with a period in Iranian history where Mithrasim became dominant.

00:47:46.000 it became the de facto state religion. In the Achaemenid Empire, in the first Persian Empire,

00:47:52.480 Zoroastrianism wasn't the official state religion, but it was kind of the de facto

00:47:56.240 religion of Iran. Whereas by the time of Jesus, we're in the Parthian period in Iran.

00:48:03.380 The Parthian dynasty were an offshoot of these northern Iranian barbarians who were a lot like 0.97

00:48:10.400 vikings and they came down and took over the legacy of the persian empire resuscitated iran

00:48:16.640 after hundreds of years of greek colonization and these parthians were oh oh i i have a comment

00:48:25.280 all right so tfdx says love your hilarious goldie i guess you mean humor i'm i'm hilarious we love 0.97

00:48:33.120 you so much as a non-persian keep trolling these inbred islamists honestly it's so easy to troll 0.97

00:48:38.880 them guys like i i try to avoid like i i will generally avoid um responding to like you know 0.98

00:48:48.160 the the jihadis and the trolls in the chat on my you know main live stream you know the one that i

00:48:54.640 do at 12 noon which is much more serious you know focused on islamic terrorism and jihad and politics

00:49:01.200 um that one i just kind of ignore them but my evening live streams it's a bit more chill you

00:49:07.440 know we're just sort of watching documentaries again like this is someone recommended this

00:49:13.040 documentary to me that's why i'm watching it um this has you know it's not a reflection of you

00:49:20.080 know what i believe or anything like that especially when it comes to ancient religion

00:49:24.800 ancient history i know nothing about that so learning experience for me as well to you know

00:49:30.320 see what other people think um so yeah because it's more chill and more casual yeah i have a

00:49:35.760 little bit more fun with with the with the jihadis right it's just it's so easy to troll them it's so

00:49:41.680 so easy to troll them but i'm i'm glad that you're um enjoying my sense of humor 0.78

00:49:47.600 so yeah all right thank you for that let's uh let's continue mithrists okay so from about 200

00:49:57.600 years before christ about 100 and 180 or so uh before christ you had mithraism become dominant

00:50:05.920 in iran and iran starts to fight a series of wars with the roman empire and these wars are not only

00:50:12.800 taking place on the battlefield they're also taking place uh you know in the psychological

00:50:17.680 realm it's it's a psychological war as much as it's a military confrontation

00:50:22.400 and in particular the the iranians had a black ops navy in the mediterranean known as the

00:50:31.100 cilician pirates these are the first people to fly the uh skull and the crossbones in history

00:50:38.580 and i'll come in a moment to what that symbol means and how it's relevant to christianity

00:50:44.300 because the crossbones are the cross are what becomes the cross in christianity at any rate

00:50:50.000 Okay, I didn't know that. So I just I just pulled up the Cilician pirates. Here we go, guys. So 0.96

00:50:59.440 this is interesting. Yeah, learn something new. Okay, so let me pull this up here. We'll learn

00:51:07.040 about this together because I've never heard of this before. So the Cilician pirates dominated

00:51:12.940 the Mediterranean Sea from the 2nd century BC until their suppression by Pompeii in 67 and 66 BC.

00:51:22.960 Because there were notorious pirate strongholds in Cilicia. Where is Cilicia? Okay, there we go.

00:51:31.060 That red part, I guess, is where Cilicia was. On the southern coast of Asia Minor, modern-day

00:51:36.220 Turkey, the term Cilician was long used to generically refer

00:51:44.020 to any pirates in the Mediterranean. Wow, that's that's

00:51:49.240 new to me. I've never heard of the term Cilician. So that's

00:51:52.900 really interesting. Okay, cool. You know, you learn something new

00:51:55.740 every day. No, no, no, I don't know. Cilician wasn't a Persian

00:52:01.180 proxy. Were they? Is that what he said?

00:52:06.220 they dominated the mediterranean seaway where were they from

00:52:14.080 um

00:52:17.200 maybe they were is that what he said i don't know okay let's go back maybe i missed that part i

00:52:26.460 mean they could be i have no idea um i might have missed that part elysian pirate okay let me let

00:52:32.700 Let me go back like a minute here and see what he says with the pirates, you know, in

00:52:38.600 the psychological realm, it's a psychological war as much as it's a military confrontation. 0.83

00:52:46.020 And in particular, the, the Iranians had a black ops Navy in the Mediterranean known 0.64

00:52:52.440 as the Cilician.

00:52:53.440 Okay. 0.99

00:52:54.440 So they were so, so the Cilicians who were a black ops Navy for the Persian. 1.00

00:53:01.040 Okay. 0.95

00:53:02.040 guys okay so when i say that like we persians pretty much invented everything guys we even

00:53:10.060 invented the skull and crossbones for the pirates so all these pirates that have the skull and

00:53:15.260 skull and crossbones apparently that's iranian too there you go there you go pirates these are

00:53:22.260 the first people to fly the uh skull and the crossbones in history and i'll come in a moment

00:53:29.660 to what that symbol means and how it's relevant to christianity because the cross bones are the

00:53:34.860 cross are what becomes the cross in christianity at any rate uh these cilician pirates got in league

00:53:41.580 with the aristocratic houses in roman port cities and they converted them to mithraism and then had

00:53:47.980 them influence the religious shift of the roman empire toward mithraism which you know was so

00:53:55.100 successful that by the time Constantine institutionalizes Christianity in the

00:54:00.540 320s, Mithraism was on the verge of becoming the de facto religion of the

00:54:06.440 Roman Empire. We know that because only, you know, less than a generation after

00:54:10.920 Constantine, Julian, the apostate, attempts to reverse Constantine's

00:54:14.760 decision and as an initiate of Mithraism, tries to institutionalize Mithraism. 0.81

00:54:21.300 So, Constantine's institutionalization of Christianity was a protective measure to make 0.61

00:54:27.780 sure that the Roman Empire, which is Iran's rival superpower, does not wind up converting to an 0.75

00:54:34.020 Iranian religion, okay? All right, but so to back up, you have this whole military and cultural

00:54:41.300 context where Mithraism is attempting to conquer the Roman Empire at the time of Christ.

00:54:48.240 and when you look at uh some of the key rituals and symbols of christianity particularly in the

00:54:57.520 roman catholic church you see what a deep impact mithraism had on christianity beginning with

00:55:04.900 the uh the birth of christ beginning with christmas uh the archaeological or not archaeological

00:55:13.260 but the the evidence historical evidence that we have to the extent that we have any that would

00:55:20.380 you know give us an indication of when Jesus was born suggest sometime in the spring but the date

00:55:28.560 of December 21st through 24th 20th through 24th was the winter solstice celebration in Mithraism

00:55:36.540 So Mithra is born of a virgin, of a virgin mother on the winter solstice.

00:55:45.500 Okay, he's the god of light, and his birth is the birth of the light at the winter solstice.

00:55:52.780 We still celebrate the winter solstice, by the way, Iranians.

00:55:57.120 So it's called Yalda, Y-A-L-D-A, Yalda. 0.98

00:56:01.400 It's like the longest night of the year.

00:56:02.860 we celebrate it by you know gathering uh you know family gets together we're supposed to stay up all

00:56:09.040 nights basically it's like an all-nighter and um we eat pomegranate and watermelon and you know we

00:56:15.880 read poetry um we like take each other's fortunes and uh yeah um pretty pretty pretty cool so we we

00:56:25.220 still celebrate the winter solstice it's actually coming up in a few days the uh

00:56:30.660 The color scheme associated with Christmas and the Christmas tree are also Mithraic in origin.

00:56:39.060 That I knew. So that I knew.

00:56:42.400 I had heard that the Christmas tree was influenced by Yaldonite, which is the Iranian winter solstice.

00:56:56.340 so i did i did know that actually about um the christmas tree let me go back a little bit here

00:57:01.860 because i've been interrupting the archaeological or not archaeological but the uh the evidence

00:57:08.500 historical evidence that we have oh raider thank you so much for the support i appreciate that i

00:57:14.420 hope you are enjoying uh this evening's live stream it's a very interesting um documentary

00:57:22.100 or you know not documentary it's a very interesting podcast um about the relationship

00:57:28.660 between mithraism and christianity and how mithraism uh supposedly influenced christianity

00:57:34.380 again um i i'm just learning someone sent this to me as a recommendation so um i'm open to all

00:57:44.120 thoughts and yeah i'm actually really enjoying um everyone's comments and feedback in in the

00:57:51.640 live chat. I mean, I don't know if I agree with everything that he says, but you know, it's,

00:57:55.300 it's interesting. And again, we're, you know, talking about things that happened 3000, you

00:58:00.960 know, 2000, 3000 years ago. So who knows what's right? Because I would think after like, you

00:58:05.980 know, 150, 200 years, especially when it comes to history, things get a little murky, but it's

00:58:11.120 interesting hearing this perspective. To the extent that we have any that would, you know,

00:58:17.820 give us an indication of when jesus was born suggests sometime in the spring but the date of

00:58:25.460 december 21st through 24th 20th through 24th was the winter solstice celebration in mithraism so

00:58:33.740 mithra uh is born of a virgin of a virgin mother on the winter solstice okay he's the god of light

00:58:43.720 and his birth is the birth of the light at the winter solstice.

00:58:50.620 The color scheme associated with Christmas

00:58:54.980 and the Christmas tree are also Mithraic in origin.

00:58:59.480 The red, white, and green color scheme,

00:59:02.020 or rather the white, red, and green color scheme,

00:59:04.920 comes from the colors of the three castes in Mithraism.

00:59:08.420 The priestly or royal cast, white.

00:59:10.820 the warrior caste, which is red, and the farmers or agriculturalists, which are green, represented

00:59:19.960 by the green color. And you see this color scheme on the flags of all the countries that were once

00:59:25.600 Mithraic, that were once within the sphere of Iranian civilization. Iran, Tajikistan, the Kurds

00:59:32.460 in Iraq and Syria Bulgaria also and I think that even the Italian color scheme

00:59:42.780 of red white and green is a legacy of the dominance of Mithraism in the Roman

00:59:49.740 Empire Mithra was also worshipped in the form of an evergreen tree the the

00:59:57.460 Iranians, the Iranians represented truth as a sarv or cypress, a form of evergreen most prevalent

01:00:05.840 throughout Iran. And they would take an evergreen tree together with its roots and offer gifts to

01:00:14.540 the tree. And so the evergreen tree is also another symbol of Mithraism. Amanita muscaria

01:00:22.380 mushrooms which are red and white in their pattern uh grow around evergreen trees and

01:00:30.380 the amanita muscaria mushroom was used to spike wine that was uh that was part of a communion

01:00:38.460 ceremony celebrated by mithras so the mithras before christians had a communion uh celebration

01:00:45.260 where they drank wine spiked with amanita uh mushrooms to induce kind of you know transcendental

01:00:51.180 estate in some cases an out-of-body experience and um i don't know about you guys but that sounds

01:00:59.500 pretty fun i should i should send like i should take a clip of this part and send it to my parents

01:01:06.940 and be like why don't we drink wine spiked with mushrooms on yalda night and i'll see what my

01:01:13.740 parents say. I'll see what my parents say. In those communion ceremonies, they ate wafers,

01:01:21.880 circular wafers of bread inscribed by a cross. Okay, so this is centuries before Christianity.

01:01:28.120 Oh no. Now, let me tell you what the cross stands for. So I had mentioned the skull and the cross

01:01:34.140 bones, the flag of the Cilician pirates who were a black ops navy of Iran, working in the 0.66

01:01:39.520 Mediterranean to spread Mithraism into the port cities of the Roman Empire. The cross on the

01:01:44.900 skull and crossbones, which is also the cross on the communion wafer that these people ate,

01:01:49.540 the cross symbolizes the crossing of the celestial equator by the ecliptic of the zodiac.

01:01:58.800 So, you know, in astrology, you have the equator of the earth extended out into the star globe,

01:02:05.340 And then at an angle to that, it's crossed by the zodiac, by the circle of the zodiacal constellations.

01:02:13.920 And it forms an X like this, separated by 23 degrees.

01:02:19.600 And the reason that there's a skull over it in the Jolly Roger is because this astrological realm governed by the planets and the zodiac is a realm of death.

01:02:30.960 It's a realm of time and death.

01:02:32.820 And so that skull represents Kronos, to put it in Greek terminology, or Saturn in Roman terminology, the god of time.

01:02:41.380 Guys, I'm completely, I just want to say, I'm completely out of my element here.

01:02:46.800 Again, like my expertise is, you know, Islamic terrorism, jihad, Middle Eastern politics, and of course, modern day Iranian history, probably going to like maybe the last 150 years.

01:03:02.820 Um, but, uh, yeah, this is, this is interesting. This is, um, interesting. And I'm, I'm kind of

01:03:10.200 glad that I'm doing a live stream so I can, um, get your reactions as well and, and read your

01:03:17.540 comments because I don't know if I buy everything he's saying, like, I'm not buying everything he's

01:03:25.820 selling, but it's very interesting. At the very least, it's interesting, um, to hear what he has

01:03:32.560 to say i don't know why someone said there's no planets there are totally there are totally

01:03:36.720 planets so um this this skull and crossbones theory is very interesting i'm gonna have to

01:03:42.800 look into i mean i don't know if i'll look into it because there's nothing to do with modern day

01:03:47.520 politics really but it's interesting so i'm in death and mithra is supposed to stand outside

01:03:55.840 of the star globe and shift the entire sphere of the heavens changing one

01:04:04.280 astrological age into another okay so in those images of Mithra slaying the bull

01:04:11.000 which you saw in all of the Mithraic temples of the Roman Empire the Mithraeums

01:04:16.080 there's an image of a Mithra slaying a bull and that symbolizes the death of

01:04:23.740 the age of taurus and the rise of the age of aries the age of the warrior okay so it's a simple

01:04:33.020 guys i'm in aries by the way just wanted to let you know so yeah i'm in aries of mithra turning

01:04:39.580 the entire star globe in order to shift the astrological age from taurus into aries and

01:04:46.460 the deeper metaphysical and ethical significance of that is that it's an overcoming of fate because

01:04:52.140 of course throughout the classical world the stars and planets were seen as the governors of fate

01:04:59.180 and so mithra identifying with mithra who stands outside the star globe and can

01:05:05.420 shift the entire heavens is a is an emblem of the human will to self-determination

01:05:11.900 and being able to break out of stellar fate and become the master of your own destiny

01:05:16.700 this is fascinating i i um never thought about it like that in fact i didn't know this much

01:05:24.760 about all this stuff uh the skull and crossbones the whole nine that's really interesting stuff

01:05:30.880 and i wonder being that they utilize that on water as well um we see jesus of course come on

01:05:38.060 the scene making fissures of men there's just kind of uh sea stuff going on a lot and it's funny

01:05:43.020 because now get this yeah yeah the vesica pisces the vesica pisces symbol right you're familiar

01:05:51.080 the christian fish quote unquote yeah yeah yeah okay so if this bull slaying is a symbol of the

01:05:59.020 transition between the age of taurus and the age of aries it's not going to be relevant anymore to

01:06:05.800 the time of christ mithraism was an astrological religion at the time of christ you're making a

01:06:11.360 transition into the astrological age of pisces and so the mithras would have needed a new symbol

01:06:17.380 and so i suggest an iranian leviathan that these two circles that intersect each other

01:06:23.880 where their intersection is forms the vesica right which can be stylized as a fish it is a

01:06:30.920 symbol of mithra because the two spheres are ahura mazda and ahriman the good and the evil

01:06:37.180 deity and mithra is the mediator the intersection between the two of them and it's also a fish

01:06:44.040 symbol which is appropriate to the coming astrological age of pisces so i think that

01:06:48.440 you know this was a symbol that the mithras were adopting uh when the uh taurus into aries

01:06:56.000 symbology had become no longer relevant and it was adopted from there into christianity

01:07:01.800 I also think that when Jesus, long before he's crucified, says things like, you know, anyone who wants to follow me has to abandon their mother and their father, and they have to bear their cross as I do, is not referring to the cross that people were executed on.

01:07:21.800 He's referring to the cross of the celestial equator and the ecliptic of the zodiac.

01:07:27.620 he's talking guys keep in mind this guy he's not he's not a historian he's a philosopher so

01:07:34.580 you know we're dealing with the arts and humanities right now so I just want to put

01:07:40.280 it out there um he's a philosopher he's not like a historian or anything like that um

01:07:47.200 and I mean I don't even know if I I don't know if I believe his skull and crossbones theory

01:07:52.800 because I just, I looked it up right now. Again, like totally out of my element here,

01:07:58.720 totally out of my element. This has nothing to do with, nothing to do with, you know,

01:08:04.340 modern Middle Eastern politics or Islamic, you know, terrorism or, you know, anything like that.

01:08:11.000 It's, I mean, it's interesting. It's interesting, but yeah, let me, let me share this. Let me share

01:08:18.560 this here. Um, so here's what I found about the, the skull and crossbones theory. Like I just did

01:08:30.480 it. I did a quick, uh, a quick AI search. I just put skull and crossbones Cilicians. And apparently

01:08:38.060 so this, it says the Cilician pirates are linked in some alternative historical accounts to using

01:08:46.780 a skull and crossbones banner, but this claim is associated with a specific, less mainstream

01:08:52.360 theory about the origins of the symbol and Mithraism. The widely accepted historical origin

01:09:00.660 of the skull and crossbones flag is with Caribbean pirates during the late 17th and 18th centuries,

01:09:07.860 such as Calico Jack, Brackham, Samuel Bellamy, and Edward, England.

01:09:15.000 One specific source suggests that the form of Mithraism

01:09:18.820 practiced by the Cilician pirates used a skull and crossbones banner.

01:09:25.140 The theory posits that the symbol was part of their specific initiation rites

01:09:29.340 before being introduced into the Roman Empire.

01:09:32.240 However, this is not a mainstream historical consensus.

01:09:37.320 I wonder like where that you know specific source comes from I mean it probably comes from this guy

01:09:48.240 himself like he's probably the one who said that the skull and crossbones originated with the

01:09:54.500 Cilicians and then maybe he's the source himself I don't know but yeah again this is this this

01:10:01.060 documentary is or you know this this podcast is purely for entertainment purposes i do not um

01:10:08.260 i don't endorse it in any way shape or form this is just me watching it and you know getting a

01:10:15.540 different perspective i guess so i mean it is interesting it is interesting regardless i don't

01:10:20.980 know if i believe everything he says but it's interesting bearing uh time and depth in the

01:10:27.780 way that he does it's an initiatic phrase i could also see why a i guess you'd call it a modern

01:10:36.340 doctrine being created during an age like this because as you pointed out the the circles that

01:10:43.060 go together and you have the mediator in the middle i although i am just going to point out he

01:10:49.460 it's like it's starting to get almost into like conspiracy theory land and i just i have zero

01:10:57.760 tolerance for like conspiracy theories or anything like that so i mean this is sort of getting there

01:11:04.460 but then like once in a while he'll say something that is accurate and that is you know historically

01:11:09.560 correct so i'm like you know i'm kind of like on the edge right now like it's it's kind of getting

01:11:15.180 to conspiracy theory but it's not there yet so like it's it's entertaining at the very least

01:11:21.120 you could see a doctrine called the trinity arising out of some type of symbol like that

01:11:27.160 and foreign to any previous age i mean not saying there wasn't probably dualistic concepts of

01:11:32.900 yahweh okay where there's a yahweh and there's a yahweh but i've never noticed a yahweh yahweh

01:11:38.400 and a yahweh and notice there's trinity now wouldn't you agree that they've got this probably

01:11:42.900 from somewhere like that or absolutely the case you look to have a trinitarian theology you first

01:11:49.780 need a dualistic theology which was zoroastrianism and mithraism is the trinitarian response to

01:11:57.300 zoroastrian dualism sorry guys your comments in the youtube chat are so funny someone wrote

01:12:11.860 kamala harris loves venn diagrams i have no idea

01:12:18.260 why what i don't even understand it's just so funny oh my gosh and then that just you know is

01:12:27.620 adopted lock stock and barrel by christians i love this this is wonderful and by the way

01:12:34.340 if anybody's watching i have uh all sorts of diseases no i'm just kidding i'm super sick

01:12:39.700 with like type a um uh flu man i can't even think clear but um we talked about this and and wanting

01:12:47.860 to do this show and i said look let's talk a little bit if possible while we get into the

01:12:52.960 mithraism on your personal take on jesus and the historicity if there was one um and you know

01:13:02.240 whether you believe there is one or isn't that's not what myth vision's about we're not a mythicist

01:13:07.880 program like you have to not believe in jesus but we do love asking the question and who is this guy

01:13:14.800 if there was one and and and things around him you brought up an interesting thing maybe we can

01:13:20.380 head that way in some point with uh apollonius atiana but maybe we deal with jesus and build

01:13:26.580 up to that i don't know i'll go into it right now uh look mithra is the god of life apollonius

01:13:34.560 uh is it comes from the root apollo which which was a solar deity also right and apollo and mithra

01:13:43.460 were often analogized with one another you know the the greeks the greeks and the romans had a

01:13:49.240 lot of religious syncretism they would analogize their gods with one another like for example they

01:13:54.060 saw um the egyptian poth as hermes or you know uh aphrodite became venus you know so these gods

01:14:03.200 were analogized. And often Mithra was analogized with Apollo. So Apollonius by itself is a kind of

01:14:12.400 Mithraic name. Okay. And this Apollonius of Tiana figure who Philostratus writes about

01:14:20.740 has the same birth date as Jesus. He is a teacher from Syria. Tiana is a place in Syria. He was

01:14:31.580 sometimes referred to simply as the Tianan and he will go around to different parts of the Roman

01:14:39.400 world and preach a mystical religion in the language of the local community and in terms

01:14:46.920 of symbols that they would understand and one of the places where he went was Judea okay he went

01:14:54.880 roman palestine and he taught there allegedly in hebrew and aramaic okay and using symbols and

01:15:05.840 myths that i mean i like the fact that he said roman palestine right because um every single

01:15:13.440 historian knows i mean he's not a historian he's a philosopher but by him saying roman palestine

01:15:21.760 um right there he's debunking you know the the fake palestinian narrative about oh the land

01:15:28.080 belonged to the palestinians right like no um it was you know the the word palestine

01:15:34.320 comes from the romans it was roman palestine right so um yeah but you'll you'll never see

01:15:41.040 you'll never see um you know the the pro-palestine people um repeat that part of history right

01:15:48.000 because that's kind of the part of history they just kind of want to forget. But yeah, Roman

01:15:51.560 Palestine, because that's what the Romans called it. Would have been familiar to the Jews in order

01:15:57.600 to present his esoteric doctrine. And guess what? He winds up being condemned to crucifixion as a 0.93

01:16:04.080 result of this. Okay. So his birth date matches Jesus. The content of his teaching on a lot of

01:16:12.380 points overlaps with the esoteric doctrine of Christianity. And then he winds up being condemned

01:16:19.100 to crucifixion after performing a whole bunch of miracles in Roman Palestine, which include

01:16:24.760 resurrecting somebody from the dead. Does he actually get crucified? Now, I know he lived

01:16:30.260 during the same time as... He escapes crucifixion. And he escapes... Now, what's interesting is what

01:16:35.040 happens after he escapes crucifixion, because there are Eastern legends that are believed by

01:16:40.700 many Muslims about how Jesus escaped death on the cross and went through

01:16:46.200 Persia and wound up in northern India where he settled down in Kashmir and

01:16:50.780 where to this day some claim that his tomb is in Kashmir. And this is the story

01:16:55.940 that Philostratus tells us about Apollonius of Tiana, that he goes through

01:16:59.820 the Persian Empire, he deals with the Magi for a while, has debates with them

01:17:04.040 in their fire temples and ultimately settles down in northern India and lives

01:17:07.940 to a ripe old age and is buried there.

01:17:12.100 Now, the interesting thing about Apollonius of Tiana

01:17:16.020 is that he was a widely revered figure

01:17:20.020 in the Roman Empire in the late first

01:17:22.540 and the second century in particular AD.

01:17:24.880 There were statues of this guy all over the place.

01:17:28.000 And yet we have very little historical evidence

01:17:30.560 for Jesus outside of the Bible.

01:17:32.980 There's quite a bit of evidence for Apollonius of Tiana,

01:17:35.860 but there's not a lot of evidence for Jesus.

01:17:38.800 The evidence for Apollonius of Tiana though

01:17:40.640 is more prominent in the second century AD.

01:17:44.900 And if I'm not mistaken, Julia Domna,

01:17:49.760 the wife of Empress Septimius Severus,

01:17:52.500 who was a Syrian woman herself,

01:17:55.040 had Philostratus commissioned to write

01:17:58.180 the life of Apollonius of Tiana

01:18:00.300 late in the second century AD.

01:18:03.560 So does this mean that Jesus was really a Polonius of Tiana, that his followers in Roman

01:18:11.140 Palestine made a cult out of, you know, the Jewish version of his teaching that they?

01:18:18.620 Okay, so he literally just contradicted himself here. 0.65

01:18:23.780 And like, I'm not even Christian, but he literally just contradicted himself because earlier

01:18:30.020 on, at the beginning of this interview, he literally said that the Zoroastrians predicted

01:18:40.880 the birth of Jesus Christ. And then he even admitted that the three wise men who went to

01:18:48.360 visit Jesus when he was born were Zoroastrian. So how can you acknowledge that the three wise 0.59

01:18:59.800 men who visited Jesus were Persians or Austrians. But then now in literally the same podcast, you

01:19:08.440 know, in less than like 30 minutes that you're saying Jesus didn't exist, there was no historical

01:19:13.080 evidence for Jesus existing. Isn't the fact that the three wise men, isn't the fact that you're

01:19:20.760 acknowledging that the three wise men who visited Jesus were Zoroastrian, isn't that in and of itself

01:19:26.120 evidence of jesus christ existing like i don't know he's he's getting into like weird

01:19:34.680 i don't know maybe he's just like trying to be controversial controversial for the sake of

01:19:40.120 being i i have no i have no idea but um this part this part's kind of weird he transformed him into

01:19:47.560 a kind of jewish prophet uh is is uh apollonius being mistaken for jesus christ or is something

01:19:55.000 more interesting than that going on namely the creation of a mythic savior figure on the one

01:20:03.720 hand by jews and on the other hand by roman pagans simultaneously parallel to one another

01:20:11.960 okay yeah this um bob bob says philosophers should never speak for more than an hour

01:20:21.160 i agree um i agree like i feel like this guy is just like looking for um a way to be controversial

01:20:32.200 enough in order to maybe like get people because like he he says things some things he says are

01:20:37.480 accurate and then some things he says are not accurate and then i don't know he's kind of all

01:20:42.520 over the place and what this would show is the the sociological need for such a figure

01:20:49.000 in that period of classical history fascinating this in that intro i really like how this guy

01:20:58.860 right like every time georgiani just says something like crazy this guy is just like

01:21:04.480 fascinating interesting right he has like nothing to say he's just like oh that's very fascinating

01:21:11.560 all right let's move on um freaks me because i could see if they parallel so well uh

01:21:18.940 how i i could honestly see how over time they could adopt such a position or such a view if

01:21:25.260 they once held to one that was very similar to it if apollonius became less and less favored

01:21:31.980 um and for whatever reason the jewish story became more favorable because i think monotheism

01:21:37.740 if i'm not mistaken became more of a prettier uh view over time to a lot of people they kind

01:21:42.940 of had this interest into the one god concept if i'm not mistaken they saw something good

01:21:47.500 i i tell you what i think happened and you know again i discussed this at length in iranian

01:21:51.260 leviathan it's actually one of the most controversial parts of the book uh about 200

01:21:58.140 a.d the 220. you know what at least he's self-aware enough to admit that what he is saying

01:22:08.380 is controversial um there you go so i mean at least at least he's self-aware enough to know

01:22:14.460 that what what you know he's just saying like really weird controversial stuff he's a d there

01:22:20.460 was a a man from a plea priestly uh uh a priestly um uh what do you call it clan okay clan would be

01:22:30.060 the right word a man from a priestly clan in iran in persia proper parse the parse province of iran

01:22:40.300 which is why the Greeks refer to all of Iran as Persia, the capital district of the ancient Persian Empire.

01:22:46.260 There was a man from a priestly clan in Parse called Ardashir Babakon,

01:22:51.820 who after this four-century dominance of Mithraism, wanted to reinstitutionalize Orthodox Zoroastrianism.

01:23:01.860 He actually came up with an Orthodox theological doctrine for Zoroastrianism when none had really existed up to that point.

01:23:11.180 And this Aadidashir Babakan first carries out a coup

01:23:15.060 inside Iran to take control of the state.

01:23:18.100 And then he announces in his intention 0.80

01:23:21.460 to retake the entire Eastern Roman Empire for Iran. 0.77

01:23:27.020 So, you know, the Eastern Roman Empire, 0.65

01:23:30.580 in other words, the Middle East from Iraq,

01:23:32.700 contemporary Iraq, all the way through to Egypt

01:23:35.980 had been a part of the first Persian Empire.

01:23:38.500 And this guy coming from out of the heart of Persia,

01:23:40.740 the Persian heart of Iran, Parth, 0.98

01:23:43.220 he wants to form another Persian empire

01:23:45.180 to retake all of that Roman territory. 0.55

01:23:48.100 And the people in those days living in Egypt, Iraq, Syria,

01:23:53.880 well, Iraq was part of Parthia in Iran,

01:23:56.080 but Syria, Egypt, Jordan, and Roman Palestine, Lebanon,

01:24:01.420 were all pagans.

01:24:02.360 I mean, there were believers

01:24:03.240 in different pagan religions, right?

01:24:05.480 And here's this guy who's an Orthodox Zoroastrian.

01:24:09.540 He's an ultra-monotheist. 0.88

01:24:12.340 And he wants to come in, and this is a very important point. 0.94

01:24:17.280 In Iran itself, he went around and he shut down all the Parthian temples.

01:24:21.840 He thought they were too pagan.

01:24:23.660 He shut down all the Mithraic fires.

01:24:26.980 He turned off all the fires of the Mithraic fire temples.

01:24:30.500 And did God knows what to their libraries.

01:24:32.680 because we have very little Mithraic literature from Parthia and Iran.

01:24:38.080 So this puritanical orthodox monotheist has his sights set on the Eastern Roman Empire.

01:24:47.240 And I think what wound up happening is that the Roman elites realized

01:24:52.580 that if this guy had done to Mithraism what he did in his own country

01:24:59.300 and used, you know, Mithraism in order to re-institutionalize Zoroastrianism,

01:25:08.180 in other words, to sort of transform Mithraism back into Zoroastrianism

01:25:15.300 through a top-down theocratic totalitarianism, 0.86

01:25:19.680 he would be able to do the same thing in Rome

01:25:23.320 if Mithraism became the dominant religion of the Roman Empire.

01:25:26.800 And this would be an absolutely suffocating atmosphere for people who are believers in all of these pagan cults and who generally had a humanistic and cosmopolitan society. 0.84

01:25:37.760 Okay, so the Roman elite, I think, realized that they needed the functional equivalent of Zoroastrian monotheism in order to defend against Iran. 0.69

01:25:51.240 And they didn't have any religion like that in Rome. 0.51

01:25:54.020 so they took judaism which was you know going in a monotheistic direction and which was extremely

01:26:02.260 hierarchical and you know uh more totalitarian than any pagan roman religion they took judaism

01:26:08.600 and they fused it with elements of the mithraism that was rising to become the de facto religion

01:26:14.060 of rome and it's from out of that fusion that christianity emerges so i can see why he said

01:26:21.200 this is the most controversial part of his book because I've never heard of this theory.

01:26:26.020 I don't believe this whatsoever. And he himself even, I'm not like, I'm not a philosopher. I'm

01:26:33.780 not like, you know, an ancient religious, whatever, theologian, historian, whatever.

01:26:40.160 But I'm very analytical. And he literally just said earlier on at the beginning of his interview

01:26:49.220 that when jesus was born the three wise men who visited jesus were zoroastrians they were persian

01:26:56.820 so and now he's literally contradicting what he himself said um

01:27:06.340 with this this this story that he made up and i guess now i understand why

01:27:13.060 why he is himself admitting that it's controversial I don't even think he I don't actually think he

01:27:20.140 himself believes what he's saying I I don't I don't think he believes what he's saying like

01:27:25.600 he's he's basically just coming up with a theory right he's like oh maybe this happened but he has

01:27:32.080 like nothing to to back it up and again everything that he says um he already he already contradicted

01:27:41.500 own theory without even realizing it when he acknowledged and admitted that the three wise men

01:27:48.860 who visited jesus christ when he was born were zoroastrian i mean if if this whole thing was

01:27:53.820 fake if jesus christ was fake why is he admitting that the three wise men visited jesus christ right

01:28:00.540 like that's just that's how i see it so yeah i'm not buying this this theory at all uh in the form

01:28:08.380 in which we recognize it today rather than say the gnostic forms that were stamped yeah i was

01:28:14.300 gonna say so um someone said there's a reason no historical or religious scholar on the planet

01:28:23.340 believes this nonsense yeah i i agree i agree yep doubt by the early church that that brings another

01:28:31.260 question so this is second century right what what do you do and like this guy oh my gosh this

01:28:37.260 guy so he's not even pushing back he's just like oh okay okay jesus was fake all right let's move

01:28:43.180 on right like no pushback no nothing at this point this is pretty much uh someone said it's funny

01:28:49.580 yeah like at this point i feel like i'm watching um a comedy like i'm i'm watching a comedy not

01:28:55.740 like any sort of documentary so this is literally entertainment purpose like it's just um it's it's

01:29:05.020 It's an interesting way to wind down and end my evening, I guess.

01:29:09.080 But it's definitely, at this point, it's become a comedy.

01:29:12.580 So at least I'm getting a good laugh out of it.

01:29:15.060 The first century.

01:29:16.060 Second into third century.

01:29:17.840 Okay, okay.

01:29:18.880 So like say there's some people who are listening who,

01:29:23.160 because I try to bring you to their minds.

01:29:24.820 Let's say there's some, I guess you'd say they're more,

01:29:27.800 what's the text of the New Testament teaching kind of people.

01:29:31.760 Now they would come on, I know some people who would say,

01:29:34.640 listen, this is a Jewish religion, right? And the New Testament, even though it's very paganized

01:29:39.500 compared to maybe some of the Old Testament, it looks like it's mystery school type teaching stuff.

01:29:44.280 It's done something completely different than the Old, but they would suggest that the whole 0.76

01:29:50.920 New Testament, even when it talks about the Gentiles, these Gentiles are probably scattered

01:29:57.180 Israelites. Have you ever considered that notion that the Gentiles... Yeah, I think they're idiots, 1.00

01:30:02.580 i'm sorry to say because uh look first of all what do you mean by so he's calling some people 1.00

01:30:09.940 idiots i kind of feel like that's the pot calling the kettle black just saying judaism right to go 0.95

01:30:17.020 back to what we were talking about earlier if you look at the five books of moses if you look at the 1.00

01:30:21.320 doctrine that's in genesis and exodus and god help us all leviticus you know uh it is dial

01:30:30.000 okay so so for my for my you know christian friends or anyone else familiar with christianity

01:30:36.180 why did he say god forbid leviticus is there like something bad about leviticus i i don't know like

01:30:42.160 i'm not um again i'm not like a religious scholar um so what why why would he say god forbid

01:30:49.720 leviticus if someone could maybe just in the comments let me know um give me some context

01:30:56.340 on that maybe because i have no idea why um why he reacted that way metrically opposed to the

01:31:04.260 teaching of jesus wait what we're talking about earlier if you look at the five books of moses

01:31:11.940 if you look at the doctrine that's in genesis and exodus and god help us all leviticus you know uh

01:31:20.580 it is diametrically opposed to the teaching of jesus

01:31:26.340 at least, you know, unless you want to consider Jesus a schizophrenic, there are times when he

01:31:31.020 says that I'm not come to abolish the law. You know, I've come basically to fulfill the law.

01:31:36.120 And, you know, I mean, if you want to believe that Jesus said that, then he was a schizophrenic

01:31:40.260 or had multiple personality disorder. But if you want to form some kind of a coherent esoteric

01:31:46.640 teaching from out of. Can I just point out something? Could you imagine what would happen

01:31:53.640 if someone did a podcast and they said that um muhammad was schizophrenic or you know muhammad 0.91

01:32:00.680 had um a personality disorder like you know all all like the the psychos would be like 0.99

01:32:06.360 islamophobia i'm gonna cut your head off blasphemy right um 0.99

01:32:15.240 uh but you know you know when it comes to other religions you know 1.00

01:32:19.480 anyone can say anything very very freely and you know we know that we won't be beheaded

01:32:25.160 or blasphemy by that so i just i just think that's really interesting um

01:32:31.240 no i don't i don't think he's christian uh i don't think this guy is christian um

01:32:36.840 he is a philosopher so from from his website uh he says that he is um a philosopher so

01:32:44.120 So whatever that means.

01:32:46.780 The sayings of Jesus in the Gospels and the New Testament generally,

01:32:50.060 you would have to say that it's diametrically opposed to the revelation of Yahweh

01:32:55.240 and Exodus and Leviticus and so forth, right?

01:32:59.080 Now, how do we get from that ancient Israelite religion to Christianity?

01:33:03.380 Well, we go through late Judaism.

01:33:05.660 We go through the Judaism that evolved after the Babylonian exile,

01:33:08.540 after Cyrus the Great basically became the Messiah of the Jewish community.

01:33:15.840 You know, he's the only Gentile that's referred to as the Messiah by the Jews. 0.68

01:33:22.000 Cyrus the Great is the first non-Jew, the first. 0.99

01:33:27.280 This part is historically accurate. 0.96

01:33:30.860 So the guy is good when it comes to history.

01:33:35.060 like when it comes to actual like historical facts um he knows his stuff and he's accurate

01:33:41.860 on that but it's like when when he gets into like the philosophy side of things and then

01:33:47.060 like you know the theories and um you know his his own like personal beliefs that's when it's

01:33:53.140 like things get very very loopy so yeah he's kind of all over the place arian frankly goyim

01:34:00.020 who is referred to as moshiach and so cyrus beginning with cyrus the acumened royal elite

01:34:07.220 sort of become the patrons of the jews but uh this is at the very least a two-way relationship

01:34:13.940 that leads to the total transformation of judaism and so this late messianic more humanistic more

01:34:20.180 cosmopolitan judaism that you know uh paves the way for christianity is already not jewish it's

01:34:28.020 already deeply uh influenced by indo-european paganism let's put it that way both both iranian

01:34:37.060 and european okay and so i i think people who try to uh interpret jesus as a jewish prophet

01:34:45.540 as just another jewish prophet are are totally off the mark i think the gospel of john really

01:34:52.820 tells you that i mean anyone who claims to be the bread the life-giving bread the you know he claims

01:34:59.860 a much higher status than anything you ever read anywhere within tanakh so well well yeah and in

01:35:05.540 john i mean jesus clearly says that yahweh is satan if you ask me i mean when he says you're 0.96

01:35:11.140 you know your father was a liar from the beginning he was a murderer and a liar from the beginning 0.81

01:35:15.460 when he's telling a bunch of jews this who are you know condemning him for being an apostate 1.00

01:35:21.460 and he says your father was a murderer and a liar from the beginning first of all he's using the 0.81

01:35:25.940 kind of language that zarathustra uses to refer to ahriman the great deceiver and he's using it

01:35:30.900 to refer to yahweh and this is totally consistent with the gnostic gospels you know there are tens

01:35:37.540 of gnostic gospels that were rejected uh when the new testament was canonized by the by the catholic

01:35:43.620 church by the circle around constantine they rejected tens of gospels and the one canonical

01:35:50.740 gospel that really deeply so someone commented the guy so this guy is speaking is historically

01:35:59.140 correct but his scripture is very very twisted um yeah like that so you know what you

01:36:07.060 so i normally don't like just show random comments but this is like this is this perfectly

01:36:14.260 encapsulates what's been going on and like you basically put into words what I've kind of been

01:36:21.680 thinking and like I've been trying to express it so yeah like when it comes to his historical facts

01:36:27.000 yes he's he's definitely accurate and he's correct but it's like when it comes to his

01:36:32.040 interpretations of scripture um very weird and um like yeah just it's it's like very very um

01:36:44.040 um non-canon non-mainstream I guess and uh I mean I can see why um

01:36:53.040 so so weird again like it's like um I don't know this is uh

01:37:00.600 again totally totally out of my element here this was recommended to me um

01:37:06.960 yeah I don't know overlaps with these rejected Gnostic Gospels like Thomas's John

01:37:13.780 the gospel of john wow man that was that's pretty deep um i've heard that actually from a couple

01:37:21.760 different scholars too that that actually agree with that notion and this kind of goes into

01:37:27.560 marcionism somewhat marcionite christianity which says forget the old testament and that's it's

01:37:33.700 interesting that someone would come on and say yeah it's a good book at all you know for them but

01:37:38.420 we don't need that. That's something that has nothing to do with us. So I find that quite

01:37:44.000 fascinating. And jumping back to what you were talking about in the second, third century,

01:37:48.400 why they would utilize this, what's called Christianity, not called Judaism, called 0.88

01:37:53.580 Christianity is used to defend themselves against this Zoe Astrian rise is probably why at the end

01:38:02.300 of the day, Constantine makes it the state religion. Because if I'm not mistaken, was it 0.97

01:38:06.320 Eusebius that lies and pretends that Constantine was hardcore Christian Christian and then that's

01:38:12.640 right later on he's like yeah the guy was a pagan and you know and he's what's going on it was a

01:38:18.260 strategic move it was a question of national security you can't very well look I mean it was

01:38:23.660 fine when the Persians and the Romans were fighting each other uh or rather the Parthians 0.89

01:38:28.580 and the Romans were fighting each other um when when Iran was Mithras because the Mithras were

01:38:35.380 not going to come in and destroy all the pagan temples or radically alter the character of roman

01:38:40.020 society they were as cosmopolitan and humanistic as the romans but once you have this uh orthodox

01:38:46.360 theocrat out of the sheer boback on attempting to institutionalize some kind of new uh radically

01:38:53.440 monothea oh man like i'm i don't think i can handle any more of this guys like this is getting

01:39:01.860 like way into the weeds on like some some crazy stuff okay if you guys want to like if you guys

01:39:09.220 want to watch it um let me find the uh video for you it's available on youtube so you guys can go

01:39:17.540 um and and look it up if you want um

01:39:23.140 Um, but like after like, you know, 47 minutes, I mean, I'm, I'm done.

01:39:30.900 This is like getting, this is why I focus on, like, I, I like, you know, facts.

01:39:37.600 I like debates, you know, I like, you know, modern day politics.

01:39:43.360 So, um, all right, here is, here is the video.

01:39:50.000 Um, let me, let me bring it up for you guys.

01:39:53.140 so because i'm done like i'm i'm getting bored now like it if something if like because you know

01:39:59.460 like i said um if i find that like something is getting too much wait why is this like being all

01:40:06.580 weird here we go like for me like if something gets too much into like the conspiracy theory

01:40:14.740 side of things then like i i literally just lose interest so um why is this being weird here

01:40:23.140 Right. Um, so if anyone wants to watch it, it's called Mithras and Jesus. How did Mithras

01:40:29.740 influence early Christianity with Dr. Jason Reza Giorgiani? It's on, um, some YouTube channel

01:40:38.200 called Myth Vision Podcast. So, um, yeah, you guys can go, uh, check, check it out there,

01:40:47.400 But I feel like I need to, like, clear my head and kind of, like, get out of, like, all the, you know, theological conspiracy theories here.

01:41:00.280 So I'm going to clear my head with some politics, which is what I like to do.

01:41:10.360 So I want to share a few videos with you guys. And I'm going to be speaking a lot more about this tomorrow as well. So tomorrow, my daily live stream at 12 noon, I'm going to focus on, you know, Islamic terrorism and jihad.

01:41:29.700 so what don't guys don't ask me about my opinion on religion um

01:41:35.220 you know religion is private everyone has their own religion i respect all religions my focus is

01:41:43.300 on um modern day islamic terrorism jihad you know freeing um freeing iran from islamic dictators

01:41:51.780 so um you know i believe in god and uh you know i have my own religion um but religion is private

01:41:58.820 And, you know, I'm not going to opine on, you know, all these various books because it's, you know, it's not my purpose. But anyways, what I will do is I will talk about Islamic terrorism and how we need to stop being worried about being labeled as Islamophobic, right?

01:42:23.940 like let's just we need to call it out and it's just getting to a point where it's incredibly

01:42:31.260 ridiculous now so let me play a few videos for you guys um I actually just saw just saw a new

01:42:38.640 one by News Nation that literally just came out less than an hour ago I want to watch that one as

01:42:42.960 well so let's watch this one and then we'll watch that one oh here we go it is time to say something

01:42:49.500 that is uncomfortable but true and it needs to be said political islam islam as it is practiced in

01:42:59.480 much i like how he says we need to talk about something that's uncomfortable meanwhile i've

01:43:05.540 literally been talking about islamic jihad um for i don't know how long now so maybe it's

01:43:11.680 uncomfortable for you but it's not uncomfortable for me of the world is not compatible with western

01:43:17.260 values. That is not us saying it. That is not some preacher in a mosque in Afghanistan saying it.

01:43:24.520 That is an Islamic scholar in Sydney, Australia. We can't take away from the fact, first and

01:43:32.300 foremost, that jihad is definitely part of our din. And as Muslims, we should never, ever shy

01:43:38.220 away from this seems pretty clear just consider the past 48 hours a muslim killed three americans 0.84

01:43:48.940 in syria police arrested five muslims for plotting a massacre at a christmas market 0.98

01:43:54.940 in germany officials in paris canceled a major new year's eve concert due to the threat of muslim

01:44:00.460 violence two muslims murdered 15 people at a hanukkah party in australia they gunned them down 0.86

01:44:05.740 they all have one thing in common, the cause of radical Islam. This hour, Bill O'Reilly on the 0.99

01:44:13.020 importance of being honest now about what is behind this threat, plus Baia Unger-Sargon on

01:44:19.220 whether or not Jews in America are still safe. Can't believe I have to ask that question. 0.81

01:44:24.960 Mark McKinnon, on the one 2028 candidate every Democrat is rooting against, or at least rooting

01:44:31.820 would go away. Our Why It Matters segment is where we start tonight. For a long time, people,

01:44:39.240 the media, even people like me, have been bullied into ignoring and speaking about the dangers of

01:44:45.100 Islamic terrorism for fear of being called Islamophobic. That stops now. The past 48 hours

01:44:53.240 have shown us it is better to be honest than politically correct. The Muslim community must 1.00

01:44:58.620 hold each other accountable and push out the radicals if they will not they are part of the 0.98

01:45:05.660 problem we have now seen large mushroom populations in the united kingdom western europe the united

01:45:10.860 states and australia who do not share our values and do not want to share our values but anyone who

01:45:18.220 calls and also canada let's not forget canada the you know one of the one of the most anti-semitic

01:45:24.460 countries in the world. That out is apparently just suffering from Islamophobia. It is their

01:45:29.340 fault. A phobia is generally described as an irrational or excessive, unsubstantiated fear.

01:45:36.600 That is a phobia of flying because planes generally do not crash. But in 2025, as the

01:45:42.640 year comes to a close, we are seeing these fears play out in dangerous ways. It is something we

01:45:47.900 been warning about for months mass groups calling for attacks on jews like we've seen in the uk and

01:45:58.700 in spain and around most of europe how long do you think it comes here you know we've seen it

01:46:06.540 on college campuses and i say this really respectfully um what has happened to your

01:46:11.340 country that anti-semitism has spread throughout the united states and europe and it is growing

01:46:17.660 like a cancer it is not that there are not any good muslims muslim countries and organizations

01:46:24.860 have denounced the shooting but this is a bigger problem this is about an ideological issue there

01:46:33.980 are not local and national islamic leaders calling out radicalization in their own communities nobody

01:46:39.980 is looking inside and saying we have a problem where is medi hassan and care the council on

01:46:46.220 American Islamic relations in Afghanistan. Oops, I missed that. Where are they? Where are

01:46:51.620 Mehdi Hassan and the Council on American Islamic Relations? They are part of the problem because

01:46:56.580 they are funded by Qatar and they are, their job is to basically destabilize Western society by

01:47:03.980 promoting jihad and by attacking anyone who calls it out and speaks out. We're a bunch of big imams 0.94

01:47:12.000 in New York and in Chicago and in Minneapolis, saying Islam needs to have a reckoning about 0.94

01:47:19.020 terrorism, about the radicalization inside their own religion. They're silent, crickets. 0.85

01:47:26.920 Instead, some, some leaders, including Congresswoman Ilhan Omar, perhaps the most vocal

01:47:33.680 and prominent Muslim political leader in America blamed the guns for the slaughter of Jews in

01:47:42.640 Australia by Muslims. It is a tragedy that this has become a normal occurrence, not just in 0.94

01:47:54.440 the United States, but now seeing it in Australia, who's worked really hard to create gun prevention

01:48:02.280 laws. That is horrifying. We have to admit, honestly, that there is an enormous problem

01:48:14.540 around the world and now in Western cultures, in the United States, in Canada, in Australia, 0.97

01:48:21.300 in Western Europe, with Islamic extremism, Islamic terrorism. Of course, that doesn't 0.92

01:48:27.800 represent the whole faith. In Australia, they're saying the Bondi Beach Massacre is an isolated

01:48:33.540 incident. Hogwash. There is nothing isolated about it. There is nothing surprising about it.

01:48:40.480 After October 7th, there were groups of pro-Palestinian protesters chanting on the streets 0.97

01:48:45.260 to gas the Jews.

01:48:57.800 And now we're supposed to be surprised that it's some aberration that a father and son decided to 0.95

01:49:06.900 open fire on a Hanukkah party, killing more than a dozen. It is time to acknowledge that most 0.99

01:49:12.940 Muslims coming to the Western world may not want to be Western. They want to bring Islam to America 1.00

01:49:19.700 and the West. They want us to accept their values. They do not want to accept ours. 0.99

01:49:25.900 until something changes many more people will die thank you for watching subscribe

01:49:32.460 all right there you go so there's a little bit of a preview of what i'm going to be talking about

01:49:38.820 tomorrow um and uh yeah thank you all for joining for my evening live stream um i hope you guys have

01:49:47.820 a great day morning evening wherever you are if you're enjoying my life leads please make sure to

01:49:55.700 like and subscribe and help me share the word on youtube so thank you everyone have a wonderful

01:50:02.900 evening. And as always, Payande Iran, Javid Shah.

01:50:32.900 Thank you.

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