Goldie Ghamari - November 11, 2026


IRAN EXPLAINED: Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi Reveals His Plan for Iran After the Islamic Republic

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00:00:00 and the entire thing so far has been attacking um his royal highness and his credibility
00:00:18 guys do you do you see how the mainstream media hates iran hates iranians right this is exactly
00:00:26 how they were back in the 1970s as well. I know this is not sports, but it's an Iranian flag.
00:00:37 And anybody from Iran in this country doesn't like it should leave.
00:00:48 Reza Pallavi, welcome. Thank you for speaking to Reuters today in Paris.
00:00:53 Over the past four months, we've interviewed more than 50 people,
00:00:56 including eight of your current and former associates for our story about you.
00:01:01 But our audience always benefits when the subject of our reporting agrees to answer questions.
00:01:06 So thank you again.
00:01:08 Thank you for giving me the opportunity.
00:01:10 Sure.
00:01:10 So my first question is this.
00:01:13 You've been campaigning in Europe and the United States,
00:01:17 giving speeches, raising money, and meeting with elected officials
00:01:21 to lead a transitional government in Iran.
00:01:24 Yet the Trump administration does not seem to support you.
00:01:28 So given all this, what is your route to return to Iran?
00:01:31 And how soon do you think regime change can actually be achieved?
00:01:35 This campaign started as a lifetime mission to liberate Iran 46 years ago.
00:01:43 And it has never been about me.
00:01:45 It's been about the Iranian people and their right to self-determination,
00:01:48 which is exactly what this is all about.
00:01:51 It is not for a foreign government to decide who or what should be the alternative for Iran.
00:01:57 That's up to the Iranian people.
00:01:59 I've never asked for any kind of endorsement from any leader or government.
00:02:06 My entire mission in life, and I've said it time and again,
00:02:10 is to see to it that the people of Iran will have that chance in the future,
00:02:15 which determines what's the function of transition post-regime collapse,
00:02:19 so we can have a constitutional assembly to debate whatever final secular democratic form,
00:02:27 of course, needs to take place and let the people of Iran choose.
00:02:30 But from where we're sitting today, when do you think regime change might occur?
00:02:36 I think we are very close to it.
00:02:37 And the reason I say this is because, first and foremost,
00:02:40 the regime is at its weakest it's ever been since 47 years.
00:02:44 Not to mention the fact that in terms of legitimacy,
00:02:47 It has totally lost any remaining possible legitimacy it might have had in the sense that many governments in all these four decades have always followed the method of appeasement with the hope for behavior change and somehow contribute to legitimizing the regime.
00:03:05 Let me ask you about some of the statements you've made. In July 2024, you spoke to the National Conservatism Conference in Washington, and you said, quote, my friends, we are not seeking your intervention. Then this year, in mid-February, you called on Washington to attack Iran, telling Reuters that, quote, intervention is a way to save lives. And then once the war began, you told Fox News that, quote, this is the game changer.
00:03:33 Yeah, that's because that's because the scenario changed, you idiot. That's because he made that statement after the Islamic regime murdered over 54,000 innocent, unarmed Iranians on two days alone. So, yes, of course, now we need intervention because the Islamic regime is literally murdering Iranians every single day. 1.00
00:03:58 Like, how stupid are these reporters? This is insane. Absolutely insane. Right. Yes. The situation changes. The situation changes. Right. Everything is based on context. 1.00
00:04:10 Two years ago, at the National Conservative Convention, when His Royal Highness said that,
00:04:16 that was before the Islamic regime mass slaughtered over 54,000 innocent Iranians in two days alone. 0.72
00:04:25 Like, unbelievable, unbelievable.
00:04:29 We've been waiting for all this time.
00:04:32 So what caused your view on intervention to change between 2024 and 2026?
00:04:37 January 8th and 9th.
00:04:40 I called it, I called it, guys, I haven't even seen this interview yet, and I called it, right?
00:04:46 The reporter's like, what caused your view to change?
00:04:49 And he literally says, the massacre, January 8 and 9, that was the mass slaughter of Iranian people.
00:04:55 So yeah, obviously, obviously our perspective changed after we saw the Islamic regime murder over 54,000 innocent men, women, and children.
00:05:10 When you're living, dealing with that level of massacre, it changes the entire prospect of things. 0.64
00:05:21 Until a long time, I said, we don't need to have any intervention.
00:05:25 Let the Iranian people be empowered.
00:05:27 I've said for years, diplomacy doesn't work.
00:05:31 War is not the solution.
00:05:33 We are only left with a third way, and that is empowering the people of Iran.
00:05:37 That's something I've been saying for at least the last 20 years all over Europe and the United States.
00:05:43 What did change was what happened on January 8th.
00:05:47 And at that case, I said, look, this intervention can actually help save more lives that will otherwise also.
00:05:53 So it's really a matter of trying to protect more lives from being lost under this regime
00:05:57 that is demonstrating that it has no limit in terms of how far it's willing to go to kill its own citizenry.
00:06:03 We interviewed a congressman who described you as articulate, humble, and presidential.
00:06:08 But as I'm sure you're aware, you also have your critics.
00:06:12 And I don't want to make you feel uncomfortable, but, you know, some people point out that you've never had a salaried job, that you lack critical leadership skills.
00:06:21 Scott Anderson, author of King of Kings, the Iranian Revolution, said that you live in a kind of royalist bubble and, quote,
00:06:29 everything I've always heard about him from people in the Iranian diaspora is that he's kind of a
00:06:34 lightweight. And your main credential seems to be heredity. You are the son of the last shah. 0.98
00:06:39 So what is your response to this? I'm sure you've heard some of this before. You haven't set foot 0.99
00:06:44 in Iran in 48 years. Your father went into exile after a popular uprising against his autocratic
00:06:50 rule. What qualifications do you believe you have to lead a transitional government in Iran?
00:06:57 well if an attorney decides to take a case pro bono does this mean that he doesn't have a job
00:07:03 i've been doing this voluntarily for free for four decades as my sacrifice for the sake of
00:07:11 my country i could have easily decided back in cairo when my father passed away you know what
00:07:16 to hell with it i can pursue like many others a life business other things not that they didn't
00:07:24 have connections not that they didn't have people but i decided to stay in it for the sake of my
00:07:32 country that i think in terms of civilization in terms of culture in terms of what they can offer
00:07:39 the world deserve much better than this regime and this government so it's been a personal sacrifice
00:07:47 for a lifetime as far as track record i think that's part of the reason today's youth in iran
00:07:55 that have followed me for these 46 years and have seen what i've said what i've done judge me by my
00:08:02 own action has nothing to do with the past yes i happen to have the pahlavi name and by the way
00:08:07 that's a positive that's what people are chanting on the streets now people are entitled to their
00:08:12 opinion some people may not like my face some people may think that i should be doing this and
00:08:16 than that, I'm only honest with my own thoughts and principle
00:08:20 and trying to be the best I can with what I can.
00:08:22 And I try to bring as many elements
00:08:24 that I believe can be supportive in getting the job done
00:08:28 across the board.
00:08:29 That is what I've been spending all my time doing,
00:08:32 by interacting with members of our community,
00:08:35 with the diaspora, with people inside Iran,
00:08:37 and of course the foreign component of it,
00:08:40 friends of Iran, those who believe that Iran does not
00:08:43 deserve to live in the dark ages as we have,
00:08:46 and remember an Iran that was prosperous,
00:08:49 that was flourishing, their contribution to arts,
00:08:53 to music, to science, you name it.
00:08:56 And I think this is exactly why people are going
00:08:59 on the streets today, sacrificing their lives
00:09:02 for a better future.
00:09:03 You never can have 100% of everybody's support.
00:09:06 There's always going to be some exception.
00:09:07 But I think for the most part, I'm enjoying a lot of support
00:09:11 press support inside and outside of Iran. I want to talk a little bit about your framework that
00:09:15 you released last year about a transition government. It calls for a referendum, I think
00:09:21 within six months, that could result in a parliamentary monarchy or republic. Are you
00:09:27 ruling out becoming the monarch if that's what the Iranian people want? Well, I'm telling you,
00:09:32 I'm not running for office. That has never been my preoccupation. And, you know, it also depends
00:09:37 on, at the end, what it is that best serves the country's purpose. At this point, I'm not focused
00:09:42 about post-referendum. My only focus right now should be, and is, how do we get to that final
00:09:49 point? One of my roles is to unite people. I cannot unite people by representing an alternative
00:09:58 in terms of the final product, as opposed to the process, because that's always divisive.
00:10:05 That's why I'm telling you, don't look at me as the candidate running for office.
00:10:10 Look at me as somebody who's provided you an avenue to that future,
00:10:13 irrespective of what your final vote will be.
00:10:16 Okay, well, I want to get to the issue of unifying the opposition soon.
00:10:22 But I want to first focus on what your activities, like, you know, in recent months.
00:10:27 I've spoken to some of your financial backers who are part of a group
00:10:31 that have donated more than $3 million to you.
00:10:35 And I guess your campaign and they say they've grown disillusioned with you for the following reasons that you didn't immediately strongly criticize President Trump's social media posts that, quote, we are blasting Iran into oblivion or, as they say, back to the Stone Ages.
00:10:53 I know you later did an answer to journalists' questions, but you didn't immediately post something about it.
00:10:59 That you haven't forcefully condemned some of the more radical supporters' violence against and the harassment of other Iranian dissidents.
00:11:07 And they believe that you haven't tried hard enough to unify Iran's deeply divided opposition.
00:11:14 They also say that they've raised these with you face, well, not face-to-face, in private calls with you.
00:11:20 But to their frustration, you haven't taken their advice.
00:11:24 So what is your response to that?
00:11:27 Well, let me first start with the, I guess you would call them benefactors.
00:11:31 I'm not going to change the mission based on the benefactor's expectation
00:11:36 that I pay you, but you have to do X, Y, and Z.
00:11:39 That's not the way it works.
00:11:40 Well, there were two things.
00:11:41 One is that you haven't tried hard enough to unify Iran's deeply divided opposition
00:11:46 and that they've raised these.
00:11:48 Okay, but our opposition, guys, our opposition is not deeply divided. Like, that's literally insane. Everyone is united behind His Royal Highness. The only people who don't support him are the same elements who were involved in the 1979 Islamic coup d'etat. So you have the MEK, you have the communists, you have the Marxists, you have the Islamists, and of course, you have the woke progressive left, right?
00:12:15 That the same groups that caused the 1979 Islamic coup d'etat, right? They're the ones who today still oppose him. So what? Like, what is he supposed to do? Like, force everyone, even the ones who don't want to free Iran? Like, that's wild. 0.67
00:12:36 The opposition is actually united. We've all united under his royal highness. Absolutely insane.
00:12:46 Issues with you and that you haven't taken their advice.
00:12:51 Well, I think that for the last at least two years, I've been extremely active in broadening the tent, so to speak.
00:12:59 In fact, I don't think I haven't had such a broad array of diverse representatives of the Iranian opposition gathered under one roof from all walks of life, ideologies.
00:13:13 In fact, I've reached out to people who were, at the time, my father's worst enemies.
00:13:19 Today, they are fully on board working with me.
00:13:21 I'm talking about former Marxists, people who used to be a member of the two-day party,
00:13:26 the Fedayana Khan organization, former MEK members. I don't know how far more can you stretch the
00:13:33 tent, including those people, to prove that in fact there is much more unity than ever,
00:13:39 certainly inside Iran. There's never going to be a perfect coalition, but I think that I've
00:13:47 extended distance pretty large and I don't know how how much the people who make such statements
00:13:52 have actually followed are aware of the meetings I've had and the gatherings that I've had
00:13:57 but I can assure you this has been my efforts all the time so in the space of a few months
00:14:03 earlier this year self-identified supporters of yours beat up a Kurdish reporter in London
00:14:10 hospitalizing him and intimidated restaurant owners in London and Vienna demanding they display
00:14:16 Iran's pre-revolution line? So, first of all, he is not, like, he does not answer for what other
00:14:26 people do. Second of all, it's already been identified that many, either the communists
00:14:35 or the Islamists, they, like, it's one of their tactics, they will pretend like they support the
00:14:43 Shah, but then they'll go and engage in violence to make him look bad. Guys, in fact, this is 0.94
00:14:51 absolutely insane that Reuters is treating this as if something... And guys, I'm not joking,
00:15:00 okay? This is the tactic that the communists and the Islamists have used since the 1970s. In fact, 0.96
00:15:09 In fact, one of the main reasons that the 1979 Islamic coup d'etat was successful is because of the Cinema Rex fire.
00:15:21 I've spoken about this before, but let me just share this again so that you guys know exactly what I'm talking about.
00:15:27 So, the Cinema Rex fire occurred on August 19, 1978, when the Cinema Rex in Abaddon, Iran, was set ablaze, killing somewhere between 377 to 470 people.
00:15:44 Guys, here's the important part.
00:15:46 The event started when four individuals who were militants motivated by Islamic extremism
00:15:53 doused the building with airplane fuel before setting it alight.
00:15:58 The attack was responsible in part for triggering the Islamic Revolution of 1979.
00:16:05 The governing dynasty, so the Shah at the time blamed the Islamic Marxists for the fire
00:16:10 And later reported that Islamic militants started the fire, while the anti-Pahlavi protesters, right, so basically, so the Islamists and the communists, they actually blamed Savuk, right, they blamed the Shah's secret police for setting the fire.
00:16:30 even though islamic extremists were responsible for the attack the islamic opposition benefited
00:16:36 greatly from the disaster in terms of propaganda because of the general atmosphere of mistrust
00:16:42 and wrath unfortunately many people accepted the disinformation right so guys again when when we 0.62
00:16:51 tell you that uh the islamic regime right and communists this is one of their well-known tactics 0.81
00:16:59 They will infiltrate movements and they will engage in violence and, you know, whatever else. 0.95
00:17:08 And, you know, they'll pretend like they support the Shah and they do this so that people will then oppose the Shah.
00:17:16 OK, this has been going on for decades, decades.
00:17:22 And as you can see here, Sinema Rex fire, they did the exact same thing in 1978. So, you know, a lot of people ask, well, what made the Iranian people turn against the Shah?
00:17:37 this cinema wrecks fire is is pretty much like the the spark that ignited the flame
00:17:46 right however after the islamic regime took over and pretty much you know um like after the dust 0.78
00:17:57 had settled the islamic regime admitted that it wasn't the shah it wasn't sabuk who started the
00:18:04 fire it was um it was you know islamic militants right it was basically the it was like the mek
00:18:13 and the you know jihadis right they were the ones who started the fire and then they blamed
00:18:21 savak right so remember guys whenever you you hear the communists and the islamists they talk 0.76
00:18:27 about oh yeah savak murdered people it wasn't savak it was them right and they are banking on 0.97
00:18:34 the fact that you guys don't know about cinema recs okay cinema recs so there you go this is you 0.77
00:18:44 know one well documented but very very uh you know little known example of uh communists and
00:18:53 islamists planting themselves into various movements and then engaging in violence
00:18:59 in order to smear the person so you know going back to to now this question from Reuters first 0.99
00:19:08 of all the question is absolute garbage because how is his royal highness responsible for the 0.91
00:19:15 actions of anyone else right like he's only responsible for his own actions because he's 0.96
00:19:20 never ever ever um said for Iranians to be violent right he's always only ever advocated for peaceful
00:19:28 uprisings so that's the first thing second of all i guarantee you the people who engage in that
00:19:35 violence probably not even shah supporters right they're they're either the mek or you know like 0.53
00:19:42 antifa or you know they're they're uh islamic terrorists right so now let's go back to this 0.99
00:19:49 this garbage question right as if somehow the shah's responsible 0.99
00:19:52 A Kurdish reporter in London, hospitalizing him. 0.98
00:20:01 An intimidated restaurant owners in London and Vienna,
00:20:04 demanding they display Iran's pre-revolution lion and sun flag.
00:20:10 At a meeting of the Iran Freedom Conference in London,
00:20:13 some attendees were advised to leave the basement because of fears of violence.
00:20:17 When one attendee left on foot, anyway, he was spat upon.
00:20:22 There were other instances at CPAC in Texas in March,
00:20:25 where one opposition activist was told by one of your supporters
00:20:28 they would run her over in a truck if she didn't chant Javid Shah.
00:20:33 Police in The Hague are investigating claims your supporters
00:20:36 have harassed and threatened dissidents there.
00:20:39 We want to show you just a quick, this is very quick,
00:20:42 but the Kurdish journalist who was hospitalized.
00:20:51 you know what is your response to that I believe in pluralism I believe in tolerance I believe in
00:21:07 civility in debate in argument in comportment respect and no hostility of any kind or no
00:21:16 brutality of any kind that goes for everyone anybody who claims to be my
00:21:22 supporter has to understand that these are the guidelines and anyone who would
00:21:27 violate these guidelines a I don't consider supporter and I'll be the first
00:21:32 to condemn that behavior and if their behavior is criminal that they will face
00:21:38 the full penalty of the law in any country in which sub violation has
00:21:41 occurred let me be very clear about that and finally i would also say that don't forget that
00:21:48 the regime has also a lot of plants a lot of agent provocateur as the french will say agitators
00:21:55 masquerading as supporters of this or that group to create in fact this kind of conflicts you know
00:22:02 these aren't isolated incidents you know there's a pattern of behavior amongst your supporters and
00:22:06 And it's, it's violent.
00:22:09 As I said, I condemn it.
00:22:11 I distance myself from that.
00:22:13 I don't justify it.
00:22:14 I don't condone it.
00:22:15 And in fact, I ask for whatever authority it is to face, have them face the crime they've committed.
00:22:22 You cannot just go and start brutalizing people.
00:22:27 It's well beyond just the ethics and the moral conduct of it.
00:22:30 But it's also, it has implications.
00:22:33 We have to be respectful. 0.99
00:22:34 How could we possibly guarantee the Iranian people in the future
00:22:38 that they'll be protected under the law and there'll be justice 0.77
00:22:41 if they conduct themselves in this way and they want to be advocates?
00:22:47 You know what's wild to me?
00:22:49 We're 13 minutes into this interview,
00:22:52 and Reuters has not once, once asked about the Iranian people in occupied Iran
00:23:00 who are being murdered by the Islamic regime.
00:23:02 Reuters has not once asked about the Islamic regime and their crimes against humanity. Reuters has not once asked about the suffering of the Iranian people. We're 14 minutes in. We're pretty much halfway through. We're halfway through this interview. And the entire thing so far has been attacking his royal highness and his credibility. 0.69
00:23:32 you guys do do you see how the mainstream media hates iran hates iranians right
00:23:39 this is exactly how they were back in the 1970s as well