Goldie Ghamari - April 29, 2026


Iran Negotiations Cancelled： Iranians want Trump to Finish the Job


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00:00:00.000 All right, so you just heard that the president has canceled the U.S. delegation's trip to Islamabad.
00:00:05.620 Big news, that is. Iran didn't send its top negotiators.
00:00:09.200 Let's talk about this. Iranian-born human rights activist Goldie Gamari,
00:00:13.540 Israeli special ops veteran Aaron Cohen, and policy director of United Against Nuclear Iran, Jason Brodsky.
00:00:20.340 So, Goldie, do you think that this was the last chance of diplomacy before the bombs start falling again?
00:00:25.520 Was this a bad tactical error by Iran?
00:00:30.000 I mean, I would certainly hope that this is the last chance that President Trump gives them,
00:00:34.120 because, you know, one thing that we Iranians know is that this is a brutal Islamic dictatorship. 0.96
00:00:38.940 They're terrorists, and you cannot negotiate with terrorists. 0.85
00:00:41.660 And I think what President Trump is doing here is he's demonstrating this to the rest of the world,
00:00:46.080 because there are a lot of, you know, leftists and, you know, of course, the Democrats as well,
00:00:50.740 who are trying to pressure President Trump into seeking a, you know, diplomatic, peaceful solution.
00:00:55.840 But ultimately, this is an evil Islamic dictatorship. 0.94
00:00:59.260 ship. You cannot negotiate with them. And this was, you know, the way I see it, the final chance. 0.99
00:01:04.260 And President Trump was very clear. He has all the cards and the Islamic regime has no leverage.
00:01:09.500 So, Aaron, the IRGC apparently dropping, you know, some mines in the Strait of Hormuz. Whether
00:01:14.440 they are or not, psychologically, it still has an effect on all the ships that would like to go
00:01:19.520 through there for the cargo. Obviously, the Navy responds with a shoot and kill of any boat caught 0.98
00:01:26.260 laying vines. How quickly do you think this can escalate now the talks are off the board? 0.91
00:01:34.120 Well, it's good to be on with you. So excuse me, here's where I'm out with the straight of
00:01:37.740 her moves. Iran keeps threatening the straight because the last card they have. But I want to 1.00
00:01:42.700 make the reality very clear right now. The IRGC, so everybody understands, does not control the
00:01:49.600 straight. The United States Navy does, and Iran can harass shipping. We're literally talking about
00:01:56.620 jet skis, wave runners, and a bullhorn. They have no control over this channel, and Iran can harass
00:02:04.300 the shipping, and they can try and create some buzz and some headlines, but they cannot and will
00:02:09.580 not sustain any type of control against U.S. naval assets, which is what your reporter set up at the
00:02:15.160 beginning of the hit. So what you're seeing right now is what I call fear theater, right? This is
00:02:19.900 designed to spike oil prices, rattle markets and create the illusion of leverage. But make no
00:02:26.040 mistake, they have zero control over the straight. And that pressure cooker is what's forcing the
00:02:33.320 Iranians to turn off eight out of 10 lights inside the house, the IRGC, the malls. They are getting
00:02:40.020 squeezed. Yeah. And soon it might be all 10 lights are going to have to be shut off because they're
00:02:44.400 have nothing left of an economy but let me just follow up real quickly there uh aaron is it ships
00:02:51.600 can go through now but they don't want to because it's still it's psychops right that's
00:02:56.400 what you were saying that's really what it is they're still afraid of the maybe the mine that
00:03:00.880 wasn't swept or uh some sort of action i mean even on those little gun boats they they can
00:03:06.880 they can shoot things that if i'm somebody who's unarmed on a regular cargo ship i don't want to
00:03:12.320 to deal with that sure and it's and it's but but again it's very minimal disruption all right it's
00:03:19.360 becoming uh uh what the u.s is doing right now what trump's doing right now especially backing
00:03:23.360 off that trip is he's scaling and upping the coordinated economic warfare here so the
00:03:29.680 interdiction so let me just what that looks like tactically the united states navy is going to
00:03:34.560 interdict any iranian oil shipment they're going to begin and have already probably begun started
00:03:41.440 putting pressure on third-party buyers. The financial isolation is tightening. And that
00:03:47.460 maritime enforcement, which you just asked me about, is going to continue at an unprecedented
00:03:53.540 level. They're going to have very, very minimal effect. And once the U.S. starts to fall into
00:04:00.900 that tactical rhythm, the Iranian movement is going to have zero effect on any of the economics
00:04:08.400 that's not directed specifically at the MOLA.
00:04:12.880 So the U.S., again, total control, minor disruption is where I'm at.
00:04:18.040 Jason, you're a nuclear policy expert, so I'm really interested on your response here.
00:04:23.080 So Trump wants to get in there, dig up, and remove Iran's enriched uranium, right?
00:04:28.340 Nuclear dust, I think it's called.
00:04:30.300 Do you think that Iran would ever sign off on this, allow them in there?
00:04:33.580 That's really one of the sticking points, clearly.
00:04:36.640 But how do you actually get rid of that stuff?
00:04:38.400 Well, I think it's highly unlikely we're ever going to get to a durable diplomatic settlement with this regime as long as it's in power in Iran.
00:04:47.880 And that's the hard truth and inconvenient reality for many policymakers.
00:04:52.080 So I think the regime is going to hold on to that stockpile of highly enriched uranium because that is one of its trump cards, really.
00:05:00.320 And it knows it could use that as a sort of Damocles over the international community.
00:05:04.680 But I agree with Aaron. I think the Iranian position is very, very badly degraded.
00:05:11.420 Iran is playing a weak hand right now, and it's trying to create the illusion that it has a stronger hand than it really does, given the U.S. having escalation dominance in the region.
00:05:24.160 And President Trump does retain the option of a ground operation to secure that stockpile of highly enriched uranium.
00:05:30.740 But make no mistake, it is a very highly risky, complicated operation, but one that's nevertheless been trained for by U.S. military forces.
00:05:40.540 So the U.S. does have options here.
00:05:42.820 And as the president said, they can hand it over voluntarily or the United States will have to go in and take it forcefully.
00:05:49.460 Yeah, and maybe one day the United Nations will actually be useful, but I don't see that anytime soon.
00:05:54.820 Goldie, so, you know, just saying, taking it further, what Iran announced, where, you know, we need to cut back on electricity.
00:06:03.200 That obviously signals that they're feeling the squeeze.
00:06:06.980 The everyday Iranian who does not have access to the Internet, probably wondering what the heck is going on here.
00:06:13.780 But as it gets tighter and tighter, inflation goes up, the IRGC or the army, you know, not getting paid, you know, inflation continuing to go up.
00:06:22.800 it is short term. It's probably very painful for everyday Iranians. But do you think that
00:06:29.700 they understand why this is happening and when it might be the moment to actually rise up?
00:06:36.120 Oh, absolutely. So, you know, Iranians in occupied Iran, they do know what's going on.
00:06:42.480 There are ways to get information inside. The challenge with the Internet being cut off is that
00:06:46.920 it's preventing them from speaking out. It's preventing them from, you know, saying what
00:06:51.840 they really want to say to the rest of the world. But what I can tell you is the messages that we're
00:06:55.500 getting from inside of occupied Iran is that Iranians want the United States and Israel to
00:07:01.220 continue their military operation against the Islamic regime to eradicate the Islamic regime.
00:07:06.540 And in fact, this news right now coming from the Islamic regime about, you know, asking Iranians to
00:07:13.920 limit their energy consumption, Iranians in occupied Iran see this as another sign, another
00:07:19.740 indicator that the regime is crumbling. And so the message that Iranians have for the outside world
00:07:24.820 is, you know, President Trump, please finish the job, because ultimately what Iranians are saying
00:07:29.260 is that they don't want any sort of internal regime change. They want a complete and total
00:07:33.360 collapse. And the only person that Iranians trust to transition Iran from an Islamic dictatorship
00:07:38.840 to a functioning secular democratic society is the Crown Prince of Iran, His Royal Highness,
00:07:44.580 and Iranians are waiting for his call because as soon as he makes the call to go out into the
00:07:50.620 streets, that's exactly what Iranians are going to do, and that's what they're preparing for right
00:07:54.220 now. All right, Goldie, Aaron, and Jason, appreciate you coming on. Thank you so much.