Goldie Ghamari - August 03, 2026


IRAN REVOLUTION LIVE: DAY 204


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4 hours and 10 minutes

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35,684

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00:00:00.000 I'll see you next time
00:00:30.000 Let's go.
00:01:00.000 Thank you.
00:01:30.000 We'll be right back.
00:02:00.000 We'll be right back.
00:02:30.000 When you look at the crowds today, you have maybe five six thousand people here on the streets yesterday
00:02:34.760 A million people a million Iranians in the street for the Ayatollah Khomeini. Does that not give you concern?
00:02:40.380 Does that make you afraid?
00:02:42.380 Because they are afraid. Yeah, that's right. And most of the people don't say anything because they are afraid.
00:02:48.240 They are in silence, you know? They don't say anything.
00:02:52.240 Is this the silent majority of Iran out here now?
00:02:55.240 Yes, yes, yes, that's right.
00:02:57.240 Do you want the Shah to return?
00:02:59.240 What do you say about your shah?
00:03:06.240 What do you say about your shah?
00:03:12.240 She said I want shah.
00:03:15.240 Why do you want the shah?
00:03:17.240 Why does she want the shah?
00:03:29.240 type them, say they might and call them...
00:03:32.940 , say they might respond
00:03:35.300 ...
00:03:38.280 ...
00:03:46.340 ,
00:03:47.240 ,
00:03:48.240 ?
00:03:52.240 Forty-seven years we've been bleeding in the dark
00:04:08.060 Under the shadow of the Islamic regime
00:04:12.000 With a stone-cold heart
00:04:15.360 They silenced our voices
00:04:18.160 They turned off our light
00:04:21.160 Fifty-eight days without internet
00:04:24.100 But we still fought the night
00:04:27.820 Our children took the streets
00:04:30.920 They raised their empty hands
00:04:34.240 And the world looked away
00:04:37.160 Do you understand?
00:04:40.700 Do you know Europe?
00:04:43.780 Do you know what's been done?
00:04:46.920 Do you know Europe?
00:04:48.420 Forty-two thousand souls are gone
00:04:52.760 Killed in two days
00:04:54.780 By a regime drenched in blood
00:04:58.960 Do you know you're up
00:05:00.960 Or have you just given up
00:05:05.260 Do you know you're up
00:05:07.260 Do you feel anything at all
00:05:11.640 Or did something break inside you
00:05:14.980 While I ran and answered the call
00:05:20.000 Do you know you're wrong?
00:05:24.860 42,000 lives, two days, that's all it took
00:05:29.920 Mothers and fathers and sons, did you even look?
00:05:36.140 We stand with Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi
00:05:39.440 Our hope and voice
00:05:42.640 Millions behind him marching
00:05:45.580 He is our only choice
00:05:48.720 He only fights for freedom
00:05:51.120 Democracy and human rights
00:05:54.120 But you mock him in your chambers
00:05:57.280 While he fights for our lives
00:06:01.180 To pull us out of this darkness
00:06:03.600 This century-long night
00:06:06.600 While you sign deals with our killers
00:06:09.720 And call it diplomatic right
00:06:13.740 Do you know Europe?
00:06:16.420 Do you know what's been done?
00:06:20.060 Do you know Europe?
00:06:21.800 They hang 60, 40 souls one by one
00:06:25.760 Hang within four months
00:06:28.200 By a regime drenched in blood
00:06:31.940 Do you know Europe?
00:06:34.720 Or have you just given up?
00:06:38.180 Do you know you're up?
00:06:41.080 Do you feel anything at all?
00:06:44.600 Or did something break inside you
00:06:47.840 While I ran and answered the call?
00:06:54.000 Do you know you're up?
00:07:08.180 What happened to you, Europe?
00:07:24.820 What made you so cold?
00:07:27.160 What turned your heart to stone
00:07:30.440 While our story went untold
00:07:33.920 Is oil worth more than blood?
00:07:36.480 Is silence worth the shame?
00:07:39.880 Because while you negotiate with murderers
00:07:44.700 We are dying
00:07:47.760 Calling your name
00:07:53.980 Do you know you're up?
00:07:58.280 Do you know what's been done?
00:08:01.220 Do you know you're up?
00:08:03.220 42,000 souls are gone
00:08:07.420 Killed in two days
00:08:09.520 By a regime drenched in blood
00:08:13.780 Do you know you're up?
00:08:16.480 Or have you just given up?
00:08:20.040 Do you know you're up?
00:08:21.780 We are still here
00:08:23.660 We are still strong
00:08:26.020 Do you know you're up?
00:08:27.680 How much longer?
00:08:29.500 How much longer?
00:08:33.220 How long do you know your love?
00:09:03.220 I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
00:09:33.220 Chavice! Chavice! Chavice! Chavice!
00:09:41.660 Tling aside from thesenake,
00:09:55.420 but don't blame anyone'sAFV!
00:09:58.680 Chavice! Chavice!
00:10:00.980 oh
00:10:15.380 um
00:10:30.980 ...
00:10:40.980 ...
00:10:54.980 ...
00:10:58.980 To all of our friends around the world, under the yoke of the Islamic Republic, Iran is
00:11:19.860 identified in your minds with terrorism, extremism, and poverty.
00:11:25.160 The real Iran is a different Iran, a beautiful, peace-loving, and flourishing Iran.
00:11:35.200 It is the Iran that existed before the Islamic Republic,
00:11:39.440 and it is the Iran that will rise again from its ashes the day the Islamic Republic falls.
00:11:45.940 So let me be clear about how a free Iran will act towards its neighbors and the world after
00:11:54.180 the fall of this regime.
00:11:57.880 In security and foreign policy, Iran's nuclear military program will end, support for terrorist
00:12:06.300 groups will cease immediately, a free Iran will work with regional and global partners
00:12:13.860 to confront terrorism, organized crime, drug trafficking, and extremist Islamism.
00:12:23.220 Iran will act as a friend and a stabilizing force in the region, and it will be a responsible
00:12:29.980 partner in global security.
00:12:34.620 In diplomacy, relations with the United States will be normalized, and our friendship with
00:12:40.980 America and her people will be restored. The state of Israel will be recognized immediately.
00:12:49.780 We will pursue the expansion of the Abraham Accords into the Cyrus Accords, bringing together
00:12:56.100 a free Iran, Israel, and the Arab world. A new chapter will begin, grounded in mutual recognition,
00:13:06.160 sovereignty, and national interest.
00:13:10.020 In energy, Iran holds some of the largest oil and gas reserves in the world.
00:13:17.440 A free Iran will become a reliable energy supplier to the free world.
00:13:23.520 Policymaking will be transparent.
00:13:26.760 Iran's actions will be responsible.
00:13:30.140 Prices will be predictable.
00:13:32.020 In transparency and governance, Iran will adopt and enforce international standards.
00:13:39.020 Money laundering will be confronted.
00:13:43.020 Organized corruption will be dismantled.
00:13:46.020 Public institutions will answer to the people.
00:13:51.020 In the economy, Iran is one of the world's last great untapped markets.
00:13:58.020 markets. Our population is educated, modern, with a diaspora that connects it to the four
00:14:05.580 corners of the world. A democratic Iran will open its economy to trade, investment, and
00:14:13.740 innovation. And Iran will seek to invest in the world. Opportunity will replace isolation.
00:14:24.720 This is not an abstract vision, it is a practical one, grounded in national interest, stability
00:14:33.200 and cooperation.
00:14:36.400 To achieve this, now is the time to stand with the Iranian people.
00:14:42.620 The fall of the Islamic Republic and the establishment of a secular democratic government in Iran
00:14:50.120 will not only restore dignity to my people, it will benefit the region and the world.
00:14:58.640 A free Iran will be a force for peace, for prosperity and for partnership.
00:15:20.120 PYM JBZ
00:15:50.120 PYM JBZ
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00:16:36.000 je
00:16:36.100 je
00:16:38.200 je
00:16:44.100 je
00:16:48.100 delic
00:16:50.100 I love you.
00:17:20.100 PYM JBZ
00:17:50.100 It'shabhaajdalar.
00:18:20.100 PAKO TAK BOKHURIN ALA HAYY
00:18:22.100 BE YET BATKONAK BOKHURIN
00:18:23.740 SELAM AÁKHR TO ZINDAAN BASHE
00:18:25.620 WKETI QURAR BE AIN AÁP KHONAK KOKHURIN
00:18:27.900 TAKPİR
00:18:28.980 MEREK BOR MULLAH
00:18:30.380 MATEBULLIY NNG DER DUNYA
00:18:32.300 TAKPİR
00:18:33.180 NNG BOR DUTTA
00:18:34.380 MGODAHIĆ CHAPI BE AAD AS MULLAH
00:18:36.500 TAKPİR
00:18:37.300 MEREK BOR MULLAH
00:18:38.700 MATEBULLIY NNG DER DUNYA
00:18:40.780 TAKPİR
00:18:41.540 NNG BOR DUTTA
00:18:42.900 MGODAHIĆ CHAPI BE AAD AS MULLAH
00:18:44.900 Today we would like towait
00:18:51.040 go through
00:18:54.500 that
00:18:58.080 résult
00:19:00.700 filled
00:19:08.100 my
00:19:10.100 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
00:19:40.100 The parade G
00:19:50.100 The parade G
00:20:01.180 The parade G
00:20:03.240 The parade G
00:20:05.320 The parade G
00:20:09.280 Hey for hang.
00:20:10.200 Joel.
00:20:12.240 Han leb.
00:20:14.320 Yeah.
00:20:17.320 Yeah.
00:20:20.540 Oh yeah.
00:20:24.460 Are you ready?
00:20:32.020 Let's go.
00:20:35.420 Raptor fighter flying over the sea
00:20:50.820 F-35 is the drug for me
00:20:54.020 My heart, my heart, epic fury
00:20:58.400 Got the IRGC running scared
00:21:03.900 Laser-guided missiles in the air
00:21:07.080 My heart, my heart
00:21:09.700 Epic Fury
00:21:11.180 Ooh, are you ready, Terran?
00:21:17.160 Ooh, are you ready now?
00:21:20.320 No more deals, no more delay
00:21:22.840 It's time to blow the regime away
00:21:26.560 Epic Fury
00:21:28.520 Thunder and flash
00:21:30.740 Watch the walls of the regime crash
00:21:33.840 The sledgehammer swinging from the sky
00:21:37.100 Smash the regime and watch it die
00:21:40.140 Epic Fury
00:21:41.460 Fire and steel
00:21:43.620 This is the real heart of the deal
00:21:46.860 Straight up homers open the gate
00:21:52.340 Moolahs crying, meeting their fate
00:21:55.640 My heart, my heart
00:21:58.260 Epic Fury
00:21:59.700 Passaging running from the American sound
00:22:05.360 Tomahawk missiles hitting the ground
00:22:08.520 My heart, my heart
00:22:11.280 Epic Fury
00:22:12.660 Ooh, are you ready, Tehran?
00:22:18.480 Ooh, are you ready for the final round?
00:22:23.420 Epic Fury
00:22:24.920 Thunder and flash
00:22:27.140 Watch the walls of the regime crash
00:22:30.160 The sledgehammer swinging from the sky
00:22:33.400 Smash the regime and watch it die
00:22:36.280 Fiering fury, fire and steel
00:22:39.860 This is the real heart of the deal
00:22:57.140 When we started this fight
00:23:12.560 All we needed were guns and a spark
00:23:16.540 Four years of darkness
00:23:19.680 Now we're lighting up the dark
00:23:23.220 Big girl...
00:23:53.220 See the fight.
00:24:23.220 My heart
00:24:26.980 Epic Fury
00:24:28.340 God bless the USA
00:24:33.380 Charlie Shaw
00:24:53.220 Let's go.
00:25:23.220 A rank of evil is a very weak
00:25:25.220 انہیاهج بعض
00:25:27.220 اینجاق وقت
00:25:29.220 اقومقت
00:25:31.220 اینجاق نبرده
00:25:33.220 فهلوی برمیگرده
00:25:35.220 داره میاد
00:25:37.220 فهلوی زدجه
00:25:39.220 به زنسه دلیل
00:25:41.220 راه نجات وطن
00:25:43.220 فهلوی هم بطن
00:25:45.220 ایران میشه گلستان
00:25:47.220 شاخ که بیاد به ایران
00:25:49.220 ایران که شاخ نداره
00:25:51.860 adopt
00:26:01.860 go
00:26:08.860 go
00:26:15.860 go
00:26:17.860 yeah
00:26:36.160 me
00:26:46.240 ya
00:26:47.780 look at us here today we see so many flags
00:27:12.580 representing so many nations we know we are not alone and we thank you for being with us
00:27:23.580 for all people around the world who stand today in unity with the Iranian people this is not
00:27:36.400 just because it's good for us and you do it out of compassion and care for our
00:27:43.000 rights to liberty and justice and equality and human rights but understand
00:27:48.340 that it is in your best interest to to have unlike this regime that has been
00:27:53.980 propagating terror and radicalism we the people of Iran are peacemakers and not
00:28:00.820 warmongers. We like to be friends, especially with the free world.
00:28:11.540 We'd like to be able to have the best neighborly relationship with the people
00:28:17.060 of our area in the region, with the Arab countries, with Israel, and all our other
00:28:22.440 neighbors.
00:28:24.840 We are fighting for justice, we are fighting for human rights, we are fighting for liberty.
00:28:31.840 We are fighting to put an end to all sorts of discrimination.
00:28:36.840 Because as an Iranian, I stand here to tell you that I've dedicated 47 years of my life
00:28:43.840 because I think that my country deserves far better than what we have right now.
00:28:49.840 To now understand that their best remedy is to support the people of Iran, because ultimately
00:29:01.760 a free Iran will be your best partner, not just to bring stability and peace, but it
00:29:07.600 will be in your best economic interests and opportunities.
00:29:12.060 Together we can prosper again, and the world will be so different once the Iranian people
00:29:18.060 are free.
00:29:19.840 I am here to guarantee a transition to secular democratic future.
00:29:28.060 I am committed to be the leader of transition for you, so we can one day have the final
00:29:35.180 opportunity to decide the fate of our country through a democratic, transparent process
00:29:41.400 through the ballot box and free elections.
00:29:44.200 And let's make sure that this time, especially the free nations of this world and their governments
00:29:52.340 stand on the right side of history.
00:30:02.880 Well, Durut Patriots, good morning, good afternoon, good evening, wherever you are.
00:30:07.880 welcome to day 204 of iran revolution live and boy do i have a show for you guys because um i
00:30:21.020 did a newsmax interview earlier this morning and i've you know i'm gonna share that i recorded my
00:30:26.260 screen but i also just literally like half an hour ago and there's a reason i'm wearing like
00:30:32.820 my iran flag right now and my my make iran great again hat because this panel it was like it was
00:30:40.760 for al arabia i've never been on al arabia before arabia i don't know how it's pronounced al arabia
00:30:47.660 maybe um it's i guess it's like a saudi news channel and i was invited to be part of this
00:30:54.840 panel and i was like okay this is going to be like a normal news panel guys this was like the
00:30:59.360 Saudi Arabian version of like Pierce Morgan. And you will not believe the kind of nonsense that I
00:31:08.000 had to deal with. So I'm literally there as an Iranian. And not only am I like, you know,
00:31:14.640 defending the Iranian people against the Islamic regime, I'm also defending the United States and
00:31:20.680 Israel against the other two panelists. Like it was just wild. And the stuff they were saying
00:31:27.160 was literally insane. But I'm trying to load the video. And for some reason, I don't know,
00:31:35.700 StreamYard is malfunctioning. So what I'm going to do, guys, don't panic. I'm going to close my
00:31:43.640 browser and I'm going to come back. So there's going to be like, you know, dead space for maybe
00:31:51.420 like 10 seconds until I just close my browser and, uh, and come back. So just indulge me on
00:31:57.760 this. Cause I want to see if like, this will actually fix the problem. Okay. So give me like
00:32:03.180 10 seconds. I'll be right back. Don't go anywhere guys.
00:32:21.420 okay ah yeah rose i saw that i saw that okay anyways i'm back and uh let's see let's see if
00:32:47.460 this is working now. Let's see if I can load up what I wanted to load up. Okay. Yeah.
00:32:55.600 Okay. It's working now. Okay guys. Yeah. I don't know. There was like some issue,
00:32:59.640 like some technical issue there. Um, so I just, I had to like close and reopen my browser,
00:33:06.600 but I didn't want to do it. Um, when his Royal Highness, there's a Pahlavi was speaking. So let
00:33:13.260 me just load up these two videos for you guys and uh we're gonna get started i'm gonna share
00:33:19.000 these two videos first and then we're gonna get to um the breaking news but guys like i'm telling
00:33:27.640 you oh my gosh like it was it was it was crazy and i have to like i have to like reset my stage
00:33:34.520 and everything too. So anyways, that's fine. But let me start with this one. So this is my,
00:33:45.720 so I'm going to start with my Newsmax interview because I also say a lot of really important
00:33:49.640 things here. And of course, you know, Newsmax is like, you know, normal, right? It's like a normal
00:33:57.100 news thing. So, but I say it's important things, but guys, wait until we get to the Al Arabiya
00:34:03.640 one Arabia it's like some show called counterpoint or something it's my first time um being on that
00:34:10.460 show and initially when the producers like wanted to book me they were like oh we were thinking of
00:34:15.740 like one of the panelists being like Anna Kasparian and I was like nope nope like the the um you know
00:34:21.940 one of uh the the amazing woman uh her name is Leanne um she runs my like you know she she
00:34:29.100 monitors my email and she does all of like my media and PR stuff um you know Leanne also knows
00:34:34.880 so when uh when Al Arabia was like oh are you are you or is Goldie willing to come on a panel with
00:34:40.280 Anna Kasparian like Anna Garbage it's like no there's no way like that that's just gonna like
00:34:45.080 it if I'm on a panel with you know Anna Garbage it's just gonna be like her just yelling at me
00:34:50.840 the entire time and just her spouting a bunch of like jihadi garbage nonsense right but anyways
00:34:57.720 like this was just as bad guys this was just as bad anyways um all right let me let me get into
00:35:04.920 this so i'll start with newsmax potential so this was my newsmax interview from this morning um
00:35:16.840 all right
00:35:19.800 here we go we'll start from here
00:35:21.080 ron and president trump saying talk to the ron to reopen the street of hormuz will begin today
00:35:29.920 that's after he called off a major attack oh wait sorry guys i also i also forgot to mention so
00:35:35.520 um as always those of you who are in the live stream chat let me know where you're tuning in
00:35:42.500 from and those of you who are part of the rewatch crew which is what you called yourselves let me
00:35:47.900 in the video comments below because i always try to read as many video comments as i possibly can
00:35:54.700 so welcome everyone to day 204. all right let's just dive right in attack on iran over the weekend
00:36:01.020 but tehran says no talks with the u.s are taking place for the very latest let's head straight to
00:36:05.740 the middle east correspondent jody cohen for the latest good morning jody good morning president
00:36:11.980 Trump says that negotiations will start afternoon, and that's after he called off a massive planned
00:36:17.980 attack on Iran at the request of U.S. allies. The president has not announced a deadline for
00:36:24.180 the talks, at least not publicly, but he has indicated that the first goal is to make a deal
00:36:30.100 on Hormuz. Trump said he was asked by Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar, and by Iran itself to
00:36:37.360 hold back on the strikes as a deal could be close take a listen we were all set to go just about
00:36:44.640 at this time right now and uh it would have been a massive attack we're all set to go
00:36:52.400 but when the allies ask to call it off they gotta sort of say well let's see and the reason they
00:36:59.840 asked is i think there's a deal there's a deal on hormones and then there will be a deal on the
00:37:05.120 nuclear or you might call it the denuclearization of iran but iran is now saying that no talks are
00:37:14.880 taking place with the united states although they are in negotiations with oman iran's foreign
00:37:20.640 ministry said these talks are for a temporary safe passage through hormones but that the straits
00:37:27.040 will not be fully reopened meanwhile uk mto a shipping monitor this morning reported
00:37:33.840 an explosion near an tanker off the coast of oman and iran has warned that they would target
00:37:40.880 oil and gas fields in saudi arabia the uae qatar and israel if the u.s attacks iran's energy
00:37:49.200 infrastructure now according to reports israel is still on high alert officials have told media
00:37:55.920 that they believe president trump could revert to the planned strikes if talks fail back to you
00:38:02.240 Jody Cohen, thank you. James Robbins is the Dean of the Institute of World Politics and
00:38:07.680 Goldie Gamari is an Iranian-born human rights activist. Appreciate your joining us this morning.
00:38:13.100 President Trump announced new talks with Tehran will begin today. Now, the Iranian foreign ministry
00:38:17.400 is saying there are no current talks with the United States and that there are no plans to
00:38:21.660 receive a delegation or send an Iranian one. James, I feel like we have been here before.
00:38:26.680 What are we supposed to believe when every time we are close to a deal, the Iranians say it's not
00:38:31.860 happening well thanks for having me on yes it sure seems like we've been here before uh every
00:38:39.180 time we get geared up to do uh some more kinetic action the iranians said oh well we'll talk now
00:38:44.260 and then we stand down and we kind of pay a price for that in terms of our readiness and our ability
00:38:49.660 to conduct future strikes uh are there talks going on it's really hard to say we say yes they say no
00:38:55.600 we know that there are ongoing with oman it could be that that's what the president was referring to
00:39:01.480 The latest from that is that the Iranians will agree to traffic entering the strait through their water and exiting through Oman's water.
00:39:09.660 Okay, fine.
00:39:10.540 That doesn't necessarily fit our definition of keeping the strait open.
00:39:14.560 If that's what they're doing, then great.
00:39:16.620 But, again, it's really frustrating from the outsider point of view to keep hearing the same thing, not knowing who's talking, not knowing where the talks are going on.
00:39:26.080 What are the parameters of the talks?
00:39:27.760 We have no idea.
00:39:29.200 Yeah, Goldie, I mean, we've been here before, and usually people are telling us,
00:39:32.780 don't pay attention to anything that Iran is saying publicly,
00:39:35.720 because that is designed for their in-real audiences.
00:39:39.460 What we're not hearing is what they're telling us behind the scenes.
00:39:42.200 Where do you draw the distinction?
00:39:44.180 Well, I mean, when it comes to the Islamic regime occupying Iran,
00:39:47.420 if their lips are moving, they are lying.
00:39:50.100 But we do have to take them seriously as well.
00:39:52.680 So when they're going out on Islamic regime TV, and they're beating their chests,
00:39:56.140 and they're saying, you know, no talks and no deals.
00:39:59.220 And, you know, they basically say on their own propaganda networks
00:40:03.860 that they have an Allah-given right to build a nuclear bomb.
00:40:07.820 So I think we have to take that very seriously,
00:40:09.680 especially with what's going on underneath Pickaxe Mountain.
00:40:13.440 Ultimately, if I was advising President Trump, I would say, you know,
00:40:16.840 don't stand down because the Islamic regime views survival as success.
00:40:22.760 So every day that it survives, it's another day that it can export its revolution, its jihad around the world.
00:40:29.700 And that's why they want the United States to back down.
00:40:32.160 They're hoping to, you know, play this out until the end of President Trump's term.
00:40:37.160 So, James, when halting the strikes, President Trump, he took to Truth Social, saying, quote,
00:40:41.400 Despite this, we have just been asked by Iran and other Middle Eastern countries to hold off any attack in the perimeters of a deal that until it has been agreed to.
00:40:49.900 This would include the immediate, complete and total opening of the Hormuz Strait and an end to Iran's nuclear threat.
00:40:56.380 So some of the countries he named that were asking to hold off on the strikes include Qatar, U.S.
00:41:01.680 OK, so guys, some people are asking, is this live?
00:41:04.840 So, I mean, I'm live. This Goldie, this one, this is the live Goldie.
00:41:11.060 What I'm sharing with you is my Newsmax interview from from earlier this morning.
00:41:17.620 so it just if there's any confusion um i'm just sharing like my earlier interviews so all good
00:41:24.420 but yes i i'm live this is not live this is like this is past goldie from this morning
00:41:32.260 and saudi arabia so in particular deal that around the world and that's why they want the
00:41:37.700 united states to back down they're hoping to uh you know play this out until the end of
00:41:41.780 president trump's term so james when halting the strikes president trump he took to true
00:41:46.980 social saying quote despite this we have just been asked by iran and other middle eastern countries
00:41:51.780 to hold off any attack in the perimeters of a deal that until it has been agreed to this would
00:41:57.140 include the immediate complete and total opening of the hormuz strait and an end to iran's nuclear
00:42:02.340 threat so some of the countries he named that were asking to hold off on the strikes include
00:42:07.780 qatar uae and saudi arabia so in particular with respect to these countries do you believe that
00:42:13.220 they're asking for him to hold off on a deal because he they're nervous that there might be
00:42:17.300 retaliations that they might receive some of that absolutely they're on the front lines of any
00:42:24.260 response that might come from iran iran still has some drone and missile capabilities that they could
00:42:29.780 use against not only their energy infrastructure but things like their water supplies or even their
00:42:34.980 civilian infrastructure so i think that they would be very nervous about that type of thing
00:42:40.020 What's interesting to me also is how nervous the Iranians seem to be about Israel.
00:42:46.220 They've done some pinprick attacks on different countries in the Gulf region,
00:42:49.860 but they haven't attacked Israel in a while.
00:42:52.340 And I think the fact that the Israelis were going to be in on this new attack,
00:42:56.240 I think that really got Iran's attention.
00:42:58.480 It could also be why these other countries just wanted this all to stand down,
00:43:02.920 because if the Israelis get back involved in this,
00:43:05.580 they're not going to be striking in as limited a way as the United States has been recently.
00:43:10.020 they're going to go for the leadership. And I think that that was another thing that focused
00:43:14.000 the Iranians' attention. Yeah, Goldie, speaking of that, War Secretary Pete Hegg said U.S. forces
00:43:19.480 remain on alert, prepared to act, writing on X. The Department of War was ready to go and
00:43:25.240 was ready at levels not seen since World War II, locked and loaded. And I know on Wake Up America
00:43:32.580 this morning, we were talking to former NATO Supreme Allied Commander Wesley Clark. He said,
00:43:36.640 look, don't confuse World War II with carpet bombing. We don't do that anymore. But what is
00:43:41.880 left to bomb in Iran if we do get things going again? Well, I mean, if I was advising Pete Hegseth
00:43:48.520 or President Trump, I would say go after the police stations, go after the courts, go after
00:43:53.160 the political buildings, because you have to remember, these are not regular, normal police
00:43:57.500 stations or courts or government buildings. These are all part of a totalitarian system that has
00:44:03.420 been oppressing the Iranian people and murdering them for the last 47 years. I mean, they're
00:44:08.420 basically the modern day version of Muslim Nazis. So it's like a Nazi occupation. And
00:44:13.500 the courts, it's like a perversion of the name. The courts are basically where these
00:44:18.660 kangaroo Sharia law trials happen, where young Iranian people, they're sentenced within
00:44:25.340 10 minutes and they're hanged. Just a couple of days ago, 20 year old Iranian freedom fighter
00:44:29.880 arvin was hanged for the crime of waging war against allah which is you know i guess a sin
00:44:35.160 uh in in the quran um the islamic regime so uh that's my advice i would be i would say go after
00:44:41.400 the judges go after the imams go after all the police because they're actually pretty much modern
00:44:47.320 day gestapo and uh spare no one get rid of the islamic regime because they're like a cancer and
00:44:52.520 if you leave even one cancer cell remaining it's going to come back stronger all right goldie
00:44:59.240 gomari james robbins really appreciate your joining us this morning thank you thank you
00:45:03.160 thank you you know what i kind of feel like uh uh the news reporter here he was a little
00:45:08.280 bit surprised by my response wait wait let me get his name again sorry i'm terrible with names but
00:45:13.640 i have his name that was um that was mark mark lauder so after my response where i'm basically
00:45:23.240 like bomb the courts bomb the police stations you know bomb the politicians right he's just kind of
00:45:30.120 but you know i also gave context i'm like because this is a totalitarian dictatorship right so you
00:45:35.400 can just think like he he's just like oh and then kind of looks at uh um he looks at uh chrysia
00:45:42.760 and come back stronger all right goldie gomar like he's like he just looks at her and he's like
00:45:49.320 all right all right james robbins really appreciate your joining us this morning thank you
00:45:53.320 thank you thank you well still to come on all right so so that was my you know normal interview
00:45:59.640 with newsmax now guys oh my gosh i'm going to share
00:46:07.400 okay this was wild this was wild so this was me on al arabia and um
00:46:14.760 um like okay this is like this this ended up being like the this is like i don't know
00:46:24.700 like the timu version timu version of pierce morgan so this this video is about like how long
00:46:34.280 is this let's see um 6 11 okay so this video is like almost 40 45 50 minutes long okay this was
00:46:43.780 like a long panel type thing um and uh yeah like I kind of knew that this one was going to be a bit
00:46:53.540 more controversial but guys like just get settled in like if you need a stress ball or something
00:46:59.740 grab a stress ball because I'm telling you like I knew that I would have to defend um the Iranian
00:47:06.960 people, but I didn't realize that I would also have to like defend, um, the United States and
00:47:14.240 Israel. And guys, I have no problem doing that. Right. Like I have no problems doing that. I will
00:47:18.520 gladly, I, yes, I walked into a hornet's nest, but I willingly, I willingly walked into a hornet's
00:47:26.480 nest. So Al Arabia is, um, the, you know, it's a Saudi Arabian, um, news network. And this is like
00:47:34.000 the english version of their news network and and they're based in riyadh so um the i guess the host
00:47:41.100 and you know everyone they're they're in riyadh um and like i knew i i knew what i was walking into
00:47:47.300 i just didn't think that you know i would be the only person on the panel who's not only defending
00:47:55.020 and speaking out for the iranian people but also uh defending uh united states and israel okay not
00:48:02.920 that I have an issue with that, right? Like I fully support United States, fully support Israel.
00:48:08.160 You know, you guys know where I stand with all of this, but yeah, for, for Americans and Israelis
00:48:14.300 guys, like if you need like a stress ball or if you want to grab like a drink or something,
00:48:19.880 right? Like I don't, I don't endorse day drinking, but this would be probably one of those times
00:48:26.500 where I'm like, you know, grab a drink maybe, or get settled in because this is going to be a wild
00:48:32.820 ride. This is going to be a wild, wild ride right now, okay? No, no, not Al Jazeera. This, guys,
00:48:39.600 I would never go on Al Jazeera. This was Al Arabia. Like, I would never, ever go on Al Arabia.
00:48:48.280 So this was, it's, here, let me just share my screen just to, just so I can share with you
00:49:00.680 guys. Yeah. So, um, Al Arabia English. Okay. So this was the, um, news network. So they're,
00:49:11.920 they're very big amongst like the, the Arab world. Um, but Al Arabia is, you know, in,
00:49:17.980 in Arabic, um, based out of Saudi Arabia. Um, it's a Saudi Arabian news network. And, uh,
00:49:26.100 Yeah, so they were like, they've been insisting for a while, like they wanted me on a few weeks
00:49:32.100 ago. But you know, I was I was traveling, so I couldn't do it. And I was like, I can't, I'm not
00:49:37.060 available. And then they were like, Okay, but we really want Goldie to come on. And I was like,
00:49:42.460 all right, well, then you're gonna have to wait until I get back to my regular studio. Because I
00:49:49.260 can't commit to like a long panel, you know, when I'm just, you know, in like a random hotel room
00:49:55.160 somewhere and then you know my sister is like sneaking through behind me wearing like a red
00:50:01.560 jacket that everyone can see right so there you go rose calling you out there
00:50:05.800 calling you out uh teasing you but anyway so uh but but they were like no no we want goldie so
00:50:11.720 they were like oh wait is it am i pronouncing it wrong and how is it it's al arabia guys i i just
00:50:23.480 i pronounce it the english way because i just know it as al arabia if it's al arabia guys i'm
00:50:29.000 not mispronouncing on purpose like that's i just i'm not i don't speak arabic right so
00:50:34.440 if it's al arabia then al arabia that's the it's it's not it's not like that's not like
00:50:42.120 an intentional thing um but uh yeah like this was really interesting and um
00:50:48.360 And I don't know. I don't know if they're going to have me back. I don't know if they're going to want me back. But let me just say, the way that I was calling out the other two people, they were so offended.
00:51:03.520 Like, guys, they were so offended by the fact that, you know, this Iranian woman is, like, calling up their nonsense that they were, like, they were, they basically said, like, what is this clown show, right?
00:51:19.900 Arabi, Arabiya.
00:51:22.120 Okay, Arabiya.
00:51:24.060 Okay, Al, so it's Al Arabiya.
00:51:27.000 Okay, thank you.
00:51:27.900 Al Arabiya.
00:51:28.800 anyways so let's let's get into this because guys
00:51:34.080 thank you yeah okay this is where we get started
00:51:42.400 right
00:51:45.020 joining this counterpoints panel is tobias elwood a former british middle east minister
00:52:02.360 and former conservative party mp goldie gamari is joining us political analyst human rights
00:52:08.460 activist and host of the goldie show on youtube and rounding out this counterpoints panel is
00:52:14.040 vj prashad a historian who is also the executive director of tri-continental by the way i looked
00:52:20.600 up this guy and uh he's a communist like his wikipedia his wikipedia basically mentions that
00:52:27.480 the guy's literally a communist right anyways so just just keep that in mind guys no no the the
00:52:33.400 the news reporter she was great guys i have no issues i have no issues with the news reporter
00:52:39.160 so i'm i'm not like let's let's be respectful to um the the newscaster and you know the the
00:52:48.200 technical crew my criticisms are with um the other panelists not with not with the not with
00:52:56.680 the um the the news the news anchor okay so i just want to be very clear about that institute
00:53:02.120 for social research to all of you thanks for being here on this debate well president trump
00:53:07.560 has called off planned strikes on iran an operation he claimed would have been the biggest
00:53:14.120 since world war ii he did so he said to allow room for more negotiations if it feels a lot like
00:53:22.200 deja vu it's because we have been here before strikes from both sides threats of massive force
00:53:28.920 followed by a last minute reprieve to allow for diplomacy no guys okay so uh the tobias this guy
00:53:36.920 so so the british guy i'm not talking about the british guy the british guy he's a former
00:53:41.960 conservative mp i'm talking about the indian guy the indian guy vj whatever his name is um i looked
00:53:49.640 him up and he's a marxist like he basically engages in like marxist theory or whatever so
00:53:56.360 no no the the british guy um he is supposedly a conservative mp um the the the indian guy
00:54:06.680 he is um he's the communist iran denies it's interested in talks with the us perhaps an
00:54:14.360 indication it thinks it holds the cards goldie the trump administration coined that term peace
00:54:22.120 through strength was it a mistake to cancel this military operation you know i have a feeling that
00:54:29.960 there's more going on behind the scenes than than what meets the eye i mean obviously for the
00:54:35.240 the Iranian people. They want President Trump to finish the job. You know, when it comes to the
00:54:40.380 Islamic regime occupying Iran, if their lips are moving, they are lying. So I don't know if this
00:54:45.780 was a mistake. But what I can say is that the optics of it, it doesn't really look that good.
00:54:52.080 But I'm sure there's a reason for why the Trump administration is doing what they're doing. Keep
00:54:57.680 in mind, President Trump just met with Prime Minister Netanyahu a few days ago. And if you
00:55:03.640 recall, the last time that Prime Minister Netanyahu met with President Trump, that was in mid-February,
00:55:09.460 and then two weeks later, Khamenei, the supreme dictator of the Islamic regime, was dead. So I
00:55:15.100 have a feeling that there's way more going on than Nitsiyah. Okay. Vijay, was this a mistake
00:55:24.200 to call off this strategy? Or do you think it's an indication that maybe the US has realized that
00:55:32.300 it may not hold the upper hand i mean i think it's important to indicate that okay so guys i
00:55:40.120 just want to say this so before we get to what like the the communist says right keep in mind
00:55:46.600 at this point i haven't said anything about the iranian people i haven't said anything about
00:55:53.880 um you know how much support the islamic regime has like nothing like that i basically um
00:56:00.440 responded to the question about president trump and then just just listen to this guy like he just
00:56:07.400 anyways you'll see i don't know if this was a mistake but what i can say is that the optics of
00:56:14.020 it um it doesn't really look that good but i'm sure there's a reason for why the trump
00:56:19.460 administration um is doing what they're doing keep in mind uh president trump just met with
00:56:25.060 Prime Minister Netanyahu a few days ago. And if you recall, the last time that Prime Minister
00:56:30.500 Netanyahu met with President Trump, that was in mid-February. And then two weeks later,
00:56:35.840 Khamenei, the supreme dictator of the Islamic regime, was dead. So I have a feeling that
00:56:40.660 there's way more going on than Niziai. Okay. Vijay, was this a mistake to call off this strategy?
00:56:51.020 or do you think it's an indication that maybe the US has realised that it may not hold the upper hand?
00:57:00.340 I mean, I think it's important to indicate that this has been a war of aggression.
00:57:05.600 You know, a war of aggression is a war crime.
00:57:09.600 If you are a UN member state and you violate the UN Charter,
00:57:14.560 you attack another country without a UN Security Council resolution.
00:57:18.840 that's a war against peace and Mr. Trump is in that sense guilty of a war crime now whether he
00:57:26.080 decides to stop firing the guns now or later doesn't change the fact that he began an illegal
00:57:33.160 war I think the United States has also come to recognize that you know maybe it's a little late
00:57:40.240 in the game I should say after its withdrawal from Afghanistan the withdrawal from Iraq
00:57:45.780 the inability to control the situation in Libya, it's pretty difficult to actually do something
00:57:53.260 that sounds easy, overthrow a government by bombardment. But this is a government of 100
00:57:59.540 million people. And whatever Goldie says, I don't think it's that clear that it's 100 million people
00:58:05.840 against a handful of people in Tehran. So do you see literally like right away, right away,
00:58:12.520 without me even speaking about the iranian people's fight to overthrow the islamic regime
00:58:20.200 like he just says whatever whatever goldie says the iranian people support the islamic regime
00:58:28.160 like what is this like you're not even iranian and like right like he's he's so threatened by me
00:58:37.480 he's literally like my my very existence threatens him where literally like he just he feels like he
00:58:45.700 has to start off by discrediting me right away right and I'm like who the hell are you like who
00:58:52.100 are you right anyways let's continue but uh yeah like this was uh at that point like as soon as he
00:58:59.980 like just attacked me I was like all right all right I see what kind of show this is and uh
00:59:05.960 let's get geared up pretty difficult to actually you know do something that sounds easy overthrow
00:59:13.480 a government uh but let me go back um this has been a war of aggression you know uh a war of
00:59:20.020 aggression is a war crime wait let me guys there there's an iranian um in the in the chat let me
00:59:26.700 just respond to them very quickly so
00:59:29.600 Okay, so this is an Iranian inside of Iran, and what they're saying here is,
00:59:48.220 I don't understand a lot of English, but I'm very happy that you are the voice of Iranian freedom.
01:00:00.280 So I just wanted to share that message with you guys.
01:00:04.320 keep in mind remember when you see um these squiggly lines in the live stream chat um
01:00:11.680 the like 99.9 percent of the time the squiggly lines are from uh iranians inside of iran who
01:00:18.560 are sending messages so um martin khayli khashanam kishoma inja hasti uh saha
01:00:34.320 I was in this program with an article from Saudi Arabian, which is called Al-Arabiyeh
01:00:41.320 and this Hindi and that person who used English, they used to attack Iran, Israel and America.
01:00:56.320 Anyway, I did my own work and I was afraid to do it because it's English,
01:01:02.320 But I am very happy that you are here and I am here because my program is more than the English language
01:01:10.320 that I can bring you to the world's mind.
01:01:14.320 Iran is Javid Shah.
01:01:16.320 Don't be afraid.
01:01:18.320 We are here until the establishment of the Islamic Republic and the father-in-law to our country.
01:01:28.320 So I just explained to Martin that this program is
01:01:58.300 is of course in English because I'm here to translate what's happening in occupied Iran
01:02:03.660 in English and share the news with all of you. And I also let Martin know that many of you
01:02:12.940 who are not Iranian have learned Iranian words. So for those of you, feel free to send a few
01:02:22.300 uh you know messages or share a few words that you have learned in persian uh to martin and the rest
01:02:31.020 of our uh iranian viewers in the live stream chat so there you go guys um anyways we'll we'll continue
01:02:43.180 so martin there you go pianda iran pianda iran oh okay then he just oh so martin responded
01:02:51.740 anyway so uh martin um responded and said thank you um and i hope um i hope for a free iran
01:03:19.100 uh and you know peace peace around the world so martin who is from iran um is basically wishing
01:03:26.220 for free iran and world peace so there you go iranians don't want war iranians want freedom
01:03:32.700 from the islamic regime all right let's continue with with this indian durka because it's just like
01:03:37.660 insane right like literally my very existence just threatens him was in mid-february and then
01:03:43.020 two weeks later khamenei the supreme dictator of the islamic regime uh was dead so i have a feeling
01:03:48.860 that there's way more going on than meets the eye okay uh vj was this a mistake to call off this
01:03:59.020 strategy or do you think it's an indication that maybe the us has realized that it may not hold
01:04:06.780 the upper hand i mean i think it's important to indicate that um this has been a war of aggression
01:04:14.540 you know a war of aggression is a war crime if you yeah just look at my face at that point my
01:04:20.860 face i'm like okay so this guy's going with the war of aggression garbage nonsense all right
01:04:27.900 like you are a un member state and you violate the un charter you attack another country without
01:04:34.860 a un security council resolution that's a war against peace and mr trump is in that sense
01:04:42.460 guilty of a war crime now whether he decides to stop firing the guns now or later doesn't change
01:04:49.500 the fact that he began an illegal war i think the united states has also come to recognize that you
01:04:56.380 know maybe it's a little late in the game i should say after its withdrawal from afghanistan the
01:05:02.700 withdrawal from iraq inability to and guys remember this is the classic tactic right so they will
01:05:09.180 compare what's happening in occupied Iran to like Iraq and Afghanistan and Libya. Right. And I'm
01:05:17.220 just sitting there and I'm like, really? Like this, this is, this is what you're saying. Like
01:05:21.580 it was just wild. Right. So there you go. Oh, all right. Martin is thanking you all. So Martin
01:05:27.920 says, thank you everyone. My English is not good to answer you. All right. There you go. But
01:05:32.600 anyways, there you go. So, so now like immediately, immediately. And you guys, I mean, you're the
01:05:37.280 experts, right? Because you've been watching my live streams for the last 204 days. And you guys
01:05:46.360 know anyone who compares the situation in occupied Iran to Iraq or Afghanistan or Libya or Syria or
01:05:54.440 whatever, it's literally not the same thing. It's totally different, right? But he's like, oh, look
01:06:00.000 at Iraq and Afghanistan. And I'm just like, oh, okay. I'm like, all right. I mean, look at my
01:06:04.980 face look at my body language you know you you guys can tell what i'm thinking here a u.n security
01:06:11.140 council resolution that's a war against peace and mr trump is in that sense guilty of a war crime
01:06:18.820 now whether he decides to stop firing the guns now or later doesn't change the fact that he began an
01:06:26.180 illegal war i think the united states has also come to recognize that you know maybe it's a little
01:06:33.300 late in the game i should say after its withdrawal from afghanistan the withdrawal from iraq
01:06:39.460 the inability to control the situation in libya it's pretty difficult to actually you know do
01:06:46.180 something that sounds easy overthrow a government uh by bombardment but this is a government of a
01:06:52.660 hundred million people and whatever goldie says i don't think it's that clear that it's a hundred
01:06:58.500 million people against a handful of people in tehran who are holding the cards i think it's a
01:07:03.760 pretty um you know a strange statement if you believe that the entirety of the iranian people
01:07:11.040 are against this government doesn't seem like that now they are a patriotic people with three
01:07:16.520 four thousand years of civilization i don't think they tolerate a foreign do you see do you see how
01:07:23.820 this Indian guy and like no no disrespect to Indians but like okay do you see how this non-Iranian
01:07:30.200 this non-Iranian person is like trying to Iran-splain my own country to me and he's like
01:07:36.860 this is a civilization of like 3,000 4,000 years old yeah we existed before the invention of Islam
01:07:45.040 like what are you even talking about so I'm sitting there and I'm like who do this who the
01:07:51.900 hell is this non-Iranian thinking that he can Iran-splain my own country and my own history
01:07:58.160 and my own civilization to me? Like, what is this? Like, this is a nation that's 3,000,
01:08:04.020 4,000 years old. Yeah. In fact, in fact, the reason that we are resisting the Islamic regime
01:08:10.720 is because our Iranian identity pre-exists Islam by 4,000 years. Thank you. Thank you,
01:08:18.680 vj for uh admitting that right but it's like do you see how do you see how these people like they
01:08:24.520 twist the narrative so they take like one tiny piece of truth right so so the truth is that the
01:08:31.080 iranian uh civilization has existed for like four thousand five thousand years yes hundred percent
01:08:37.640 but that means we're pre-islamic so so our iranian identity existed for thousands of years before
01:08:45.240 the invention of islam so what the hell is this guy saying like he's he's totally like he's he's
01:08:52.440 reversing it right the the reason that we iranians today are fighting back against the islamic regime
01:08:58.520 is because the islamic regime is a foreign occupying invader and they are anti-iranian and
01:09:06.200 we iranians are fighting back to protect our civilization to protect our culture to protect
01:09:13.160 our identity, right? Anyways, there you go. That sounds easy. Overthrow a government
01:09:18.720 doesn't change the fact that he began an illegal war. I think the United States has also come to
01:09:25.940 recognize that, you know, maybe it's a little late in the game, I should say, after its withdrawal
01:09:32.680 from Afghanistan, the withdrawal from Iraq, the inability to control the situation in Libya
01:09:38.580 it's pretty difficult to actually you know do something that sounds easy overthrow a government
01:09:45.780 by bombardment but this is a government of 100 million people and whatever Goldie says
01:09:52.020 I don't think it's that clear that it's 100 million people against a handful of people in Tehran
01:09:57.620 who are holding the cards I think it's a pretty um you know a strange statement if you believe that
01:10:04.600 that the entire guys just look at my face i'm just like what like at this point at this point
01:10:12.220 my face i'm just like i'm processing this i'm like what's going on no
01:10:20.600 what's going on here
01:10:25.900 all right so as you can see right here like my face i'm just processing what's going on right
01:10:35.400 now because i'm just like did did this non-iranian guy just try to iran-splain my own country to me
01:10:43.020 the iranian people are against this government doesn't seem like that now
01:10:48.340 they are a patriotic people with three four thousand years of civilization i don't think
01:10:53.920 Yeah, we are a patriotic people with 4,000 years of civilization.
01:10:59.040 That's why we're fighting the Islamic regime, because we're patriotic to Iran.
01:11:04.760 They tolerate a foreign expedition on their soil, and I think they've basically rallied around whatever they have to rally around to defend themselves.
01:11:15.260 The United States is finding that this is a strategic setback, and they are trying to find a way out.
01:11:21.820 Mr. Trump is a master of bluster on the way out of the room.
01:11:26.620 And I think that's what we're hearing from him.
01:11:29.260 You know, I have to interject here because since you're directing me, you know, you're attacking me directly.
01:11:34.240 Let me make one thing very clear.
01:11:36.060 I'm not attacking you.
01:11:37.200 I'm just pointing out something.
01:11:38.560 Don't interrupt me when I'm speaking because I let you speak.
01:11:41.380 This show is about interruptions.
01:11:42.820 Do not interrupt me when I'm speaking.
01:11:46.180 Okay, Goldie, go ahead.
01:11:47.880 Thank you.
01:11:48.300 So, first of all, the aggressor is the Islamic regime that occupied Iran back in 1979.
01:11:56.240 You're not Iranian, you don't speak Persian, you don't watch Iranian news,
01:12:00.160 so you actually have no idea what's going on.
01:12:02.300 I checked your background, you're a communist, okay?
01:12:05.020 You're literally, you promote the fact that you're a communist.
01:12:08.540 And communists are one of the reasons that Iran turned into the Islamic hellhole that it is today.
01:12:14.300 And by the way, when you speak about the 3,000, 4,000-year civilization, that's pre-Islamic.
01:12:20.480 So right now, the Iranian people are fighting the Islamic regime, which is the invading
01:12:26.580 occupying force.
01:12:28.040 Because prior to 1979, Iran had freedom of religion.
01:12:32.200 Iran was a constitutional monarchy.
01:12:34.080 So yes, the Iranian people are in fact rallying around His Royal Highness Reza Pahlavi, who
01:12:41.520 is going to free Iran.
01:12:42.880 And you're speaking about the so-called War of Aggression.
01:12:46.160 Well, what happened when the United States was attacked by the Islamic regime for the last 47 years?
01:12:52.940 What about the hostage crisis situation in 1979?
01:12:55.620 When was the United States attacked by the Islamic regime?
01:12:57.360 And by the way, how come you're not speaking out about the fact that on January 8 and 9,
01:13:02.460 the Islamic regime mass-murdered over 54,000 innocent unarmed Iranians?
01:13:07.720 So what's happening right now, it's a humanitarian intervention.
01:13:10.600 the Iranian people wanted this they are grateful to President Trump and they are grateful to Israel
01:13:15.780 yes they are yes okay Tobias I'm going to come to you in just a moment it's very difficult to
01:13:21.740 have a conversation which is entirely fact-free so I just want to put that on the table so so now
01:13:28.440 he's basically he's basically accusing me of lying he's like it's difficult to have a conversation
01:13:34.220 that is entirely fact-free, right?
01:13:36.400 Like the guy's literally speaking out of his rear end.
01:13:40.620 Guys, I can't, I can't, I know.
01:13:42.400 I know people are saying like,
01:13:43.960 we want to swear, don't guys.
01:13:45.080 This is a children's show.
01:13:46.660 Well, not a children's show,
01:13:47.700 but you know, like this is a child,
01:13:49.460 this is a family friendly show.
01:13:52.400 So as much as I want to swear, I'm not,
01:13:57.720 but he literally says that I'm like, you know, fact-free.
01:14:01.580 like he basically he's accusing me of like just making things up and as if like he's the authority
01:14:08.240 right anyways but but but this is what they rely upon they literally like like all he can do
01:14:14.160 like he can't counter my arguments so um he just resorts to like trying to insult me as if like
01:14:21.920 this is going to like do something right and by the way and by the way how come you're not speaking
01:14:28.960 out about the fact that on january 8 and 9 the islamic regime mass murdered over 54 000 innocent
01:14:35.920 unarmed iranians so what's happening right now it's a humanitarian intervention the iranian
01:14:40.880 people wanted this they are grateful to president trump and they are really to israel yes they are
01:14:46.240 yes okay tobias i'm going to come to you in just a moment it's very difficult to have a conversation
01:14:52.640 which is entirely fact-free so i just want to put that on the table all right um i'm going to come
01:14:57.680 to Tobias in a moment but Vijay respond to that point that this is a humanitarian intervention
01:15:04.240 what do you say to that how is this a humanitarian intervention i mean let's let's take this
01:15:10.720 statement that she has made seriously which i i generally wouldn't uh there are hundreds of
01:15:17.280 millions of people there are hundreds of millions of people in the world who are in much more
01:15:22.880 difficult situations right now for instance there is an atrocious war going on in sudan
01:15:29.040 if you're talking about humanitarian interventions there are very many places that the united states
01:15:35.120 if it so desires if it still believes yeah the people of sudan didn't point that graffiti on
01:15:40.960 the wall saying president trump please help okay all right um okay goldie just let vj make his
01:15:46.320 point because i want to bring it over to tobias in just a moment i mean um it is this is a this
01:15:50.560 is a ridiculous lineup that you have melinda because she's already called me a communist
01:15:55.840 this lady has an israeli flag yeah yeah i do because i support israel i proudly support israel
01:16:02.800 yes why do you do not like israel what's wrong with this okay we're not gonna get into it did
01:16:07.280 you guys see that so he's basically like he's trying to discredit me right so he's basically
01:16:12.000 saying oh like she has a flag of israel uh behind her and and i'm like yeah so what's your point
01:16:19.440 what's your point right like do you see how like like these people they literally try to like not
01:16:25.520 only like you know he's attacking me but then he tries to like bring in like this israel anti-israel
01:16:31.280 anti-jewish you know stuff as well right like the guy's literally he calls himself a communist he's
01:16:36.960 a marxist but then he's like it's wild listen to this so desires if it's still believe yeah the
01:16:43.120 people of sudan didn't put that graffiti on the wall saying president trump please help okay
01:16:47.840 all right um okay goldie just let vj make his point because i want to bring it over to tobias
01:16:52.560 in just a moment i mean um it is this is a this is a ridiculous lineup that you have melinda because
01:16:58.640 she's already called me a communist this lady has an israeli yeah yeah i do because i support israel
01:17:05.760 i proudly support israel yes why do you do not like israel what's wrong with this okay we're
01:17:10.480 not going to get into an israel discussion because we're going to channel so the reason guys remember
01:17:15.200 The reason that the host doesn't want to get into an Israel discussion is because this is a Saudi Arabian news network and the Saudis, the Saudis have so far not signed the Abraham Accords, right?
01:17:33.080 Even though President Trump, President Trump has put, President Trump has put the Saudis on notice saying that they have to sign the peace treaty and formally recognize Israel, okay?
01:17:48.760 The Saudis have not.
01:17:50.820 So, yeah, when I went on, I, you know, I full, full well, and so this is why the host was like, all right, let's not get into the discussion of Israel, right?
01:18:01.600 because uh it's it's awkward for her right because the saudis are never going to to sign on to that
01:18:09.440 so i guys i'm literally on um i'm literally on a saudi arabian news network i'm defending israel
01:18:17.840 oh and by the way so do you see how the lion and sun flag is above my head that's on purpose that's
01:18:24.560 on purpose so um when i was like starting uh like when i you know logged in to the zoom thing and
01:18:32.080 then um you know this was the the setup uh the the people were like okay can you like move your camera
01:18:38.640 closer they're like there's too much headspace above you right headspace being um the flag right
01:18:45.600 so they were trying to uh see if they could crop crop my image or whatever so that um the lion and
01:18:53.520 sun flag this flag wouldn't show and i was like sorry my camera is is stable like i can't move it
01:19:00.480 right so like this is what you know it is what it is and they're like okay no problem so yeah they
01:19:05.760 they even were trying to like crop out the line and sun flag and i was like nope nope and then of
01:19:10.400 course you know i had my hair to the side and i have my iran uh pin as well but there you go so
01:19:16.560 uh yeah so guys this is why this is why when i'm like what's wrong with israel uh the news host
01:19:22.240 she's like all right let's let's move on let's not talk about israel because uh again this is
01:19:26.960 saudi arabian news network right okay all right um okay goldie just okay all right um okay goldie
01:19:36.560 just let vj make his point because i want to bring it over to tobias in just a moment i mean
01:19:40.640 um it is this is a this is a ridiculous lineup that you have melinda because she's already called
01:19:46.560 me a communist this lady has a israeli yeah yeah i do because i support israel i proudly support
01:19:53.920 israel yes why do you do not like israel what's wrong with this okay we're not going to get into
01:19:58.320 an israel discussion because we're going to genocide against the palestini we're going to keep
01:20:02.560 on iran so tobias let me hand it over to you is this humanitarian intervention or is this uh the
01:20:11.360 u.s leaving the door open for diplomacy or has the u.s realized its military strategy has failed
01:20:20.080 well good evening yeah i mean so many points to unpick here let's get us back to uh the reality
01:20:26.080 here which is the fact that you have a united states that has been plagued by iran since 1979
01:20:33.440 we have our arguments our difference of views as to why that happened there was an uprising in
01:20:38.560 iran because of the way the country was was run uh but there's no doubt about it that successive
01:20:43.840 american presidents have had to deal with a very difficult iran and i would say have not done
01:20:49.760 enough to challenge iran's proxy influence its pursuit of a nuclear uh weapon and its treatment
01:20:55.680 of its own people but that doesn't then give license for donald trump to do whatever he likes
01:21:02.160 and he's been poorly advised in fact i know many of my friends that used to work in the state
01:21:06.800 department are no longer working there who would have advised him against this military operation
01:21:12.320 unless there was a clear political strategy to follow if you simply believe that you can use
01:21:17.600 superior military might to crush political thoughts you're always going to lose because
01:21:23.440 only anything you have to follow is more military force and that clearly has left the situation
01:21:30.240 where we are today that the regime is still uh in place the regime is still in in intact in fact
01:21:37.120 is is is a more hard line control because the rgc is now uh in control the iranian people can
01:21:43.520 rightly feel that they've been left behind that they're not uh being looked after their interest
01:21:49.520 sorry so i just want to share this comment here so um prophet mesh is saying i'm indian and i
01:21:55.360 don't know that communist fool thank you for roasting him yes thank you so much and guys
01:21:59.120 i just want to like i want to be very clear about something um like i i i you know initially like i
01:22:06.960 said you know this indian guy but then i corrected myself and i said this non-iranian person right
01:22:11.360 because it doesn't matter um where he's from the fact is he's not iranian and um in fact the vast
01:22:17.600 majority of um indian people actually support us iranians um because uh the people of india
01:22:25.120 they're also fighting the same sort of jihad right like they're fighting pakistan uh which is
01:22:30.320 like the fakest country in the world uh they're fighting uh you know like the the the hindu the
01:22:36.320 indian um like muslims and cashmere or whatever right so um like guys india has her own like
01:22:44.160 durka issue there as well um and the you know vast majority of indian people support us and in fact
01:22:51.040 um the um indian civilization and the iranian civilization um go back thousands of years and
01:22:59.040 uh you know when the arab muslim invaders came to persia and conquered persia um a lot of uh
01:23:05.760 zoroastrians escaped and found peace um and and uh refuge um in india right so there are a lot of
01:23:14.880 uh parsis who currently live in uh india and they're zoroastrian and you know they're uh the
01:23:20.960 you know their ancestors are are the iranian people so um all you know nothing but love for
01:23:28.080 uh you know the indian people but i mean guys this guy like he's a communist right and um as
01:23:35.760 all of you know no matter which country communists come from communists are pretty much like against
01:23:44.880 um, civilization. So, I mean, we have Iranian communists, right? Like the MEK, I call them out
01:23:50.400 all the time. The MEK are literally terrorists, right? Um, in the United States, there are, you
01:23:55.880 know, Antifa and, you know, communists in the United States as well. Right. Um, and then of
01:24:01.200 course, uh, you know, in India and a whole bunch of other places, uh, other countries are communists
01:24:06.640 as well. So yeah, like this guy, uh, you know, let's focus on the fact that he is a communist.
01:24:12.260 It's irrelevant where he's from because, you know, like he is a disgrace to to the Indian people in India who are also fighting Durkhas and and jihadis and terrorists as well.
01:24:27.980 Right. So the issue here, the issue is his ideology, not his ethnicity or background.
01:24:35.240 Right. So it's the communist ideology that is the problem here.
01:24:40.420 OK, and he could be from anywhere. He could be from anywhere. But it's that communist ideology because like Indian people are amazing people and a lot of love and respect for Indian people, especially because they also support us.
01:24:55.520 And historically, you know, the Indian civilization, Iranian civilization. Very good friends. So we love our Hindu brothers and sisters. All right, let's continue. I just want to give a little disclaimer there.
01:25:10.420 because guys this is really important right like we we do not go after any particular country
01:25:17.080 or ethnicity or whatever we go after ideology right we go after ideology and politics and that
01:25:23.640 kind of stuff and i would say have not done enough to challenge iran's proxy influence okay let's go
01:25:30.520 back to like this british dude we're not going to get into an israel discussion because we're going
01:25:34.180 to genocide against the palestinians we're going to keep on iran so tobias let me hand it over to
01:25:39.560 you is this humanitarian intervention or is this uh the u.s leaving the door open for diplomacy
01:25:49.960 or has the u.s realized its military strategy has failed well uh good evening yeah i mean so
01:25:56.040 many points to unpick here let's get us back to uh the reality here which is the fact that you have
01:26:02.440 a united states that has been plagued by iran since 1979 we have our arguments our difference
01:26:09.400 views as to why yeah so at this part so you know the first part of this sentence i agreed with which
01:26:16.280 is why i'm nodding my head i'm like yeah like the islamic regime began this war in 1979 but then
01:26:22.060 then he starts about this whole narrative of oh the iranian people overthrew the shah because the
01:26:28.700 shah was a dictator so that he he pretty much says that without saying it and then i'm like oh my
01:26:33.460 gosh all right so this guy is just as bad as the other one that happened there was an uprising in
01:26:38.700 iran because of the way the country was was run uh yeah well i mean i guess you could say the the
01:26:44.360 the muslim durkas didn't like the fact that the shah gave the iranian women the right to vote and
01:26:50.020 so they rose up against it because they they basically said that uh you know uh the shah giving
01:26:56.660 iranian women the right to vote is against islam and uh the the muslim durkas also didn't like the
01:27:02.500 fact that the Shah raised the age of marriage for girls from the age of nine to the age of 18,
01:27:10.060 right? So yeah, there you go. But there's no doubt about it that successive American presidents
01:27:15.140 have had to deal with a very difficult Iran and I would say have not done enough to challenge
01:27:21.060 Iran's proxy influence, its pursuit of a nuclear weapon and its treatment of its own people.
01:27:27.720 but that doesn't then give license for donald trump to do whatever he likes and he's been poorly
01:27:33.460 advised in fact i know many of my friends that used to work in the state department are no longer
01:27:38.160 working there who would have advised him against this military operation unless there was a clear
01:27:44.180 political strategy to follow if you simply believe that you can use superior military might to crush
01:27:50.980 political thoughts you're always going to lose because only the only thing you have to follow
01:27:54.960 is a more military force and that clearly has left the situation where we are today
01:28:01.540 that the regime is still uh in place the regime is still in intact in fact is is is a more hard
01:28:09.180 line control because the rgc is now uh in control the iranian people can rightly feel that they've
01:28:15.140 been left behind that they're not uh being looked after their interests despite that bar being
01:28:20.000 raised to say come out uh against your own regime this is what donald trump was saying
01:28:24.800 and of course the straits of hummus is in a worse place than it was prior to uh february uh this
01:28:30.720 yeah what does donald trump do well i think he believed probably that he could repeat what he
01:28:36.240 did in venezuela to have a quick iranian solution do something as i say which perhaps other american
01:28:41.760 presidents wish that they could have advanced uh as well but it's not worked well he's alienated
01:28:47.440 many of the gulf friends in particularly saudi arabia is now saying listen this cannot go on
01:28:52.400 what is your strategy what does victory look like and then of course other allies across
01:28:57.680 uh the west saying i don't see where this actually leads where do you actually want to take this
01:29:02.640 so yes he's called off this latest uh promise to attack and annihilate but actually the point is
01:29:09.520 actually made when any military force any state hits another country no matter how unpopular
01:29:16.720 the uh regime is in that country often it does rally people around them because they don't like
01:29:24.000 do you see my face so this like this random british guy okay sorry this random i shouldn't
01:29:30.560 say british guys this random non-iranian guy is now once again trying to iran-splain the country
01:29:38.880 to me and he's like oh the the iranians it's it's the rally around the flag they're rallying around
01:29:45.600 the islamic regime like what proof do you have do you see how like it's just like these people are
01:29:51.360 stuck in their bubbles and they're just parroting the same like garbage propaganda over and over
01:29:59.760 again and it's you know once again we're we're you know the whole like rallying around the flag
01:30:04.480 nonsense and my face my face is just like what am i doing right now like why am i even here okay one
01:30:11.200 what is your and by the way you know what's really interesting is both of these men okay they're
01:30:16.320 looking at me and they're they're like who is this young woman like what does she know oh we're we're
01:30:21.360 gonna school her we're gonna school her right anyways i guys we're only like what we're only
01:30:27.840 like 10 minutes in there's still like another 30 minutes left okay i'll try to stop interrupting
01:30:33.920 but i'm telling you like this is wild strategy what does victory look like and then of course
01:30:39.600 other allies across uh the west saying i don't see where this actually leads where do you actually
01:30:44.620 want to take this so yes he's called off this latest uh promise to attack and annihilate but
01:30:51.500 actually the point has actually been made when any military force any state hits another country
01:30:58.140 no matter how unpopular the regime is in that country often it does rally people around them
01:31:04.960 because they don't like an outside entity coming in to that country telling them what to do.
01:31:10.580 And I wish Donald Trump would listen to some international voices
01:31:13.860 that have much more experience about what to do, where to take Iran,
01:31:19.020 how to prevent Iran pursuing a nuclear weapon to allow greater advancement
01:31:26.440 in the freedoms of the people of Iran.
01:31:30.380 But ultimately, we've got a Middle East that is in a worse place,
01:31:34.200 is more dangerous and the prospect of escalation is much, much higher than prior to February
01:31:39.900 2026. Goldie, do you think the US military strategy has failed and has it actually made
01:31:51.960 Iran stronger because they're rallying against the US? Well, first of all, you know, when you
01:31:58.320 look at World War Two, the allies and, you know, Tobias, you should know this, given that you're
01:32:03.240 a former conservative politician. I myself, I'm also a former conservative politician in Canada,
01:32:07.880 by the way. World War II was not won through diplomacy. World War II was won by bombing the
01:32:14.540 Nazis and sending them back to where they belong, which is, you know, six feet under. So just keep
01:32:20.320 that in mind. And, you know, when it comes to the Islamic regime, the Islamic regime has never been
01:32:25.080 weaker. Okay, so this is really important to keep in mind. Now, you know, I'm the only Iranian person
01:32:31.100 on this panel who's actually been following and monitoring Islamic Regime State TV,
01:32:35.940 I look at their statements.
01:32:37.560 During Khamenei's funeral, some of the supporters of one faction,
01:32:42.240 they were chasing down Abbas Adorki, the foreign minister,
01:32:45.920 because he's trying to engage in negotiations,
01:32:49.020 and they were calling for his head.
01:32:50.900 So, first of all, this whole narrative about the Islamic regime being stronger,
01:32:55.820 it's absolutely ridiculous.
01:32:57.080 Where is the current supreme dictator?
01:32:58.880 Why hasn't anyone seen him?
01:33:00.120 do we even know if he's alive or dead right so that's the first thing and then second of all
01:33:04.400 this whole garbage narrative about people rallying around the flag again it's utter nonsense the
01:33:11.620 islamic regime has literally brought in their terrorist proxy forces from iraq from afghanistan
01:33:18.300 from syria from you know lebanon southern lebanon hezbollah they brought in like the hamas terrorists
01:33:24.900 Right. All these non-Iranians, they have brought in their terrorist groups in Pakistan, they brought in and these terrorist groups are driving around the streets with machine guns loaded on the back of pickup trucks to keep the Iranian people from rising up.
01:33:40.900 So this is an Islamic regime that is illegitimate. It is in control through power and through the fact that when Iranians rise up, they are executed.
01:33:51.100 Just two days ago, a 20-year-old Iranian man, his name was Arvin, he was hanged by the Islamic
01:33:58.080 regime for the crime of Muharribe. Muharribe is basically waging war against Allah. So the
01:34:04.940 Islamic regime is speeding up executions and the Iranian people are saying that the only way to get
01:34:11.700 rid of this Islamic regime is to overthrow them once and for all. They can't do that right now
01:34:17.360 because they are not armed.
01:34:19.120 When the Iranian people tried peaceful uprising
01:34:22.400 back on January 8th and 9th,
01:34:24.200 over 54,000 were slaughtered.
01:34:27.360 And I don't see anyone speaking about that.
01:34:28.340 Well, can I come back on that?
01:34:29.640 Can I just come back on that?
01:34:30.880 Firstly, I mean, it's disingenuous
01:34:32.580 to compare it with World War II
01:34:34.720 because there, the Nazis, in fact, the Axis,
01:34:37.720 tried to territorially push other countries aside
01:34:41.080 and then it took a coalition
01:34:42.280 to territorially move into that space
01:34:45.100 and then create a new regime, a peaceful regime
01:34:48.800 that would meet unconditional...
01:34:51.000 So you think we should engage in diplomacy?
01:34:51.420 Let me finish my point.
01:34:52.460 You didn't want to be interrupted.
01:34:53.800 You didn't want to be interrupted.
01:34:55.620 Just a moment, Goldie.
01:34:56.680 We'll let Tobias finish his point,
01:34:59.020 and then we can come to you with a response.
01:35:01.380 You made it clear that you didn't want to be interrupted,
01:35:03.440 so please have the courtesy to allow me to finish my point, okay?
01:35:07.440 So Second World War, we, quite rightly,
01:35:11.440 stood up and forced unconditional surrender
01:35:14.800 took over the country completely and placed a new peaceful regime that would adapt to international
01:35:21.300 laws now what you're seeing in iran at the moment and you just touched on it you don't want the
01:35:25.880 regime to be there but i think we can all agree with that but the strategy that donald trump is
01:35:30.600 pursuing at the moment is purely to bomb the country from the air as if somehow that's going
01:35:35.480 to have a result that's going to lead to regime change in fact it's weakened militarily it's
01:35:40.900 weakened economically, but ultimately it strengthened its ability to control its own
01:35:45.700 people by the very reasons you've outlined, by brute force. Not only that, it's controlling
01:35:50.980 the Straits of Hormuz in one way or another, certainly preventing shipping from moving up
01:35:55.940 and down. And the consequences to that economically is enormous right across the world. So it begs
01:36:01.440 the question, what is Donald Trump's strategy? And I still scratch my head to say exactly what
01:36:07.640 it is because it's not clear where he wants to take this he certainly doesn't want to put troops
01:36:12.420 on the ground as we saw in the second world war and he certainly has no plan for a regime change
01:36:18.060 so i asked the question where does this go what does donald trump do because at the moment
01:36:22.820 his answer is simply to pursue more military might and as i say that doesn't lead anywhere
01:36:28.660 goldie as i said i'll give you right of reply and then we'll come to you vj
01:36:32.860 Thank you. So first of all, President Trump has made it very clear that it's not America's
01:36:38.280 responsibility for regime change. And I agree with that because ultimately it's the Iranian
01:36:42.820 people's responsibility to change the regime. We are working on reversing the mistake that
01:36:48.060 Jimmy Carter and the Democrats made back in 1979 when they supported a brutal Ayatollah
01:36:53.980 and thought that he would actually create some sort of religious belt to keep out communism
01:36:59.480 because back, you know, at that time, Iran shared a border with the Soviets.
01:37:04.060 So, you know, it's important to know your history, Tobias, in that sense.
01:37:08.360 And then when it comes to what's currently happening, Iranian people,
01:37:13.040 we are grateful that President Trump is bombing those institutions of suppression.
01:37:18.040 Because, again, if the Iranian people, the only chance that we have to rise up
01:37:22.840 and overthrow the Islamic regime is to make sure that the Islamic regime is weakened.
01:37:27.080 So anyone who says, you know, President Trump is engaging in regime change, absolutely incorrect.
01:37:32.460 That's not what President Trump is doing.
01:37:34.100 He's never said that he's there for regime change.
01:37:36.700 He has said it.
01:37:37.620 On February 28, when he made his initial speech, he had a message directly to the Iranian people.
01:37:44.720 And he said, Iranian people, your time will come.
01:37:48.660 When the United States is done, that will be your opportunity to reclaim your country.
01:37:54.420 President Trump is not done.
01:37:55.880 The Islamic regime is currently being more and more weakened every single day.
01:38:01.140 We're hearing news of, you know, people inside of Iran who are fighting back.
01:38:04.940 And I mean, the Islamic regime, they have been murdering us for the last 47 years.
01:38:12.420 OK, they've been murdering us for the last 47 years.
01:38:15.040 Again, on January 8 and 9.
01:38:16.980 But if I can bring you back to the question, Goldie, where does President Trump take this?
01:38:22.060 If we can just circle back to that one point.
01:38:24.780 where does president trump take this now if does he escalate if i was advising president trump i
01:38:31.600 would say 100 escalate but you know everyone who says oh we don't know what his military strategy
01:38:36.840 is obviously no one knows because he's going to keep his cards close to like he's going to keep
01:38:42.160 his hand uh hidden from everyone because why would he give away the military strategy before it
01:38:47.200 actually happens remember on february 27 when uh reporters asked president trump uh are you planning
01:38:54.260 on engaging in strikes and then president trump said you know what we're going to think about it
01:38:58.680 and we're going to continue talks over the weekend 12 hours later khamenei was dead so
01:39:03.100 people who are saying that we don't know what the military strategy is yeah there's a reason for
01:39:07.180 that it's called operational security no it's daft i mean that's absolutely you know you're
01:39:13.520 talking out of your hat you really oh see so so guys so the the guy the guy he literally doesn't
01:39:18.820 know how to respond to me so again he has to just like personally insult me right like these guys
01:39:25.940 are they're literally not able to counter counter what I'm saying so he's just like oh that's daft
01:39:34.120 she's talking out of her heart right like he he literally can't come up with anything he just
01:39:39.200 he literally was not expecting me to call him out like that right so he's just like
01:39:43.240 like so like guys this this is when you know that you've won the debate because now both the the
01:39:51.520 the communist and then like that that you know the the british former politician or whatever
01:39:56.440 both of them they're now personally attacking me right so because he doesn't know what to say he's
01:40:02.800 like that's daft that's daft all right what happens remember on february 27 when uh oh yeah
01:40:10.460 someone is saying his face is red yeah what is this senti yeah right so this guy like he's like
01:40:17.180 his face is so red like he looks like a tomato right oh my gosh yeah and then and then he doesn't
01:40:24.060 know how to respond to me because you know these people have never been challenged by an iranian
01:40:29.980 geopolitical activist former politician human rights activist you know all that stuff right
01:40:34.860 um so these guys just don't know how to deal with someone who knows the middle east and knows
01:40:41.100 geopolitics like the back of her hand right so and he and he's just like he doesn't know what
01:40:46.540 to say so he said he starts attacking me personally so this is where i know i'm like all right i've
01:40:51.740 won i've won first asked president trump uh are you planning on engaging in strikes and then
01:40:58.940 president trump said you know what we're gonna think about it and we're gonna continue talks
01:41:02.780 over the weekend 12 hours later khamenei was dead so people who are saying that we don't know what
01:41:07.820 the military strategy is yeah there's a reason for that it's called operational security no it's
01:41:13.740 daft i mean that's absolutely you know you're talking out of your hat you really are um i just
01:41:19.100 make it really clear that you do share your strategy with your allies personal you you
01:41:23.820 you just because just because you don't like just because i'm trying to finish my sentence and i'll
01:41:28.940 explain why yes you are because you're suggesting somehow well you said that i'm rallying around the
01:41:35.340 flag but it doesn't really i'm really not sure what show i'm on to be honest with you i know i
01:41:40.940 don't know because because i've been a journalist for over 35 years i reported from iraq i reported
01:41:48.700 from afghanistan good for you i've never been in such a comical i've i've never been in such a
01:41:55.260 comical space do you find it cool vj let me just say firstly i hope to god i i never ever call for
01:42:04.220 more bombing against any people because i've been in war zones and i've seen what bombing is like
01:42:10.940 and it's ruthless and gruesome and i hope to god i never get to the point where i say
01:42:16.060 that a war should be escalated thank god you're not iranian thank god you're not
01:42:19.740 but also but also please make a point please go ahead dj because because this comedy show
01:42:29.340 you know has had me sitting and watching it for a little while go ahead i would like what i would
01:42:35.020 like to say is that aerial bombardment of the kind that the united states is deploying against iran
01:42:42.380 is what was deployed against iraq to destroy entire cities i reported from fallujah and
01:42:48.700 ramadi watched the city get basically worn down but that did not allow the united states to have
01:42:56.220 authority over the iraqis they were able to destroy bridges they were able to destroy
01:43:02.220 infrastructure of different kinds but they couldn't command the ground and and there's a reason for
01:43:08.300 that the united states is not has not a military force or a political force capable of commanding
01:43:15.260 the ground the same thing in afghanistan despite the fact that you know what people thought of the
01:43:21.340 taliban the united states could command the skies it could destroy infrastructure but it found no
01:43:28.000 way despite 20 years of trying to to command the ground so in iran i would say just if we learn
01:43:37.600 from iraq and from afghanistan i would say that you know you can use a nuclear bomb on tehran
01:43:44.000 you can do all kinds do you see do you see like this guy like he's so insane not only is i don't
01:43:51.520 even know what he's talking about now all of a sudden he's like he's accusing the united states
01:43:56.000 of wanting to like nuke nuke tehran right like what in the aloha akbar jihad am i listening to
01:44:03.680 right now right do you see how insane these people are so yeah guys now you know why like i'm just
01:44:11.840 like you know i have my flag and i have my hat guys this is why i warned you before i started
01:44:17.520 this i was like guys if if you know if you want a drink or a stress ball get a drink get a stress
01:44:24.240 ball because now this like this communist is like oh what if the united states nukes tehran and i'm
01:44:31.360 like where is this even coming from right and then but he also guys he also felt so threatened by me
01:44:40.720 that he's like, I've been a journalist for 35 years. Honar Kadi, Honar Kadi, right? Like,
01:44:46.080 Honar Kadi is like Persian. Okay, someone asked about the Iranian, the Persian word of the day.
01:44:52.880 It's Honar Kadi.
01:44:54.000 okay so this is a good one for you guys okay so uh we use this word sarcastically so like
01:45:17.120 so we use it both like literally but also sarcastically when we're using it literally
01:45:24.080 when like when someone does uh you know something amazing um we're like okay like
01:45:30.720 well done but the literal translation is like you make art because one add one add means talent so
01:45:39.520 is like your talent is showing okay um so there are a lot of times where like you know someone
01:45:48.160 will you know create a beautiful work of art or you know do something amazing um and then we'll
01:45:55.920 say wow right um but we also use it sarcastically so uh we also use it in the context
01:46:08.320 of like when someone says uh yeah honar oh um prophet mesh is saying honar in hindi means
01:46:16.160 talent yeah honar also means talent in uh in persian um so when our caddy means like you
01:46:23.200 you know you're talented um so in this context guys so so here's the word for you when someone
01:46:29.920 says or does something like ridiculous or idiotic you can say okay so when this guy right when this
01:46:42.120 guy he was like i've been a journalist for 35 years my initial reaction was wow right because
01:46:50.240 i'm saying it sarcastically so this is your uh iranian word of the day um many of you
01:46:59.900 you are, you know, asking for different ways to like, relieve your frustration. So one
01:47:05.940 hour charity is a good one. Whenever you hear someone like say something like stupid, or
01:47:12.100 someone does like, you know, makes a fool of themselves or something. You can also use
01:47:18.260 one hour charity sarcastically, right? So like this guy, so when he's like, I've been
01:47:25.020 a journalist for 35 years honad caddy you know honad caddy okay fine honad caddy and then you
01:47:31.520 know we also say it with like that sort of sarcastic way of saying it like okay honad caddy
01:47:37.620 so there you go there's your like iranian word for the day i've been a journalist for 35 years
01:47:43.860 why i was trying to finish my sentence and i'll explain why yes you are because you're suggesting
01:47:51.700 no i don't because because i've been a journalist for over 35 years i reported from iraq i reported
01:47:59.940 from afghanistan i've never been in such a calm right so guys so what i say when when he's like
01:48:05.700 i've been a journalist bro and i'm like good for you and i say good for you to him in my head i'm
01:48:10.100 actually saying yeah right i've never been in such a comical space do you find it cool vj let me just
01:48:21.140 say firstly i hope to god i i never ever call for more bombing against any people because i've been
01:48:29.300 in war zones and i've seen what bombing is like and it's ruthless and gruesome and i hope to god
01:48:35.460 i never get to the point where i say that a war should be escalated thank god you're not iranian
01:48:40.660 thank god you're not iranian because you're right but also but also please make a point
01:48:46.500 please go ahead dj because because this comedy show you know has had me sitting and watching
01:48:53.460 it for a little while go ahead i would like what i would like to say is that aerial bombardment
01:48:59.940 of the kind that the united states is deploying against iran you know what that that guys that
01:49:05.940 was a missed opportunity for me like i i should have used the the bless your heart uh i i totally
01:49:12.820 should have yeah honey is kind of like the the iranian version of bless your heart kind of the
01:49:18.020 sarcastic way but like total missed opportunity i get that but guys like pretty much like at this
01:49:23.700 point so i would say we're almost halfway through this like this this poop show of this like the
01:49:31.780 saudi arabian version of like a pierce morgan panel and at this point like i've pretty much
01:49:37.860 i'm on guard because not only am i like defending like not only am i on guard because i'm defending
01:49:43.860 the iranian people i'm also like on guard because i'm defending israel and i'm also defending the
01:49:49.220 the United States. Not that I have any issues with that. Like, I will gladly, gladly, always,
01:49:54.020 always defend Israel and the United States. I just was not expecting to be on a panel
01:50:00.320 where it's me and then there's like these two like random dudes that like no one even knows
01:50:06.100 who they are. And they're just like, oh, I'm so smart. Goldie's speaking out of her heart.
01:50:12.140 I'm a journalist for 35 years. Well, that doesn't mean anything because if you're an idiot,
01:50:16.560 you're an idiot right like anyways but so i'm like totally on guard here but i was also having
01:50:22.880 i was having fun with this because i could also see how frustrated uh these these guys were and
01:50:29.840 they were they they just they were losing their minds because they were trying to um like like
01:50:36.880 stump me or they i don't know like they were just both attacking me it was so weird right like this
01:50:42.160 is what i don't understand like we iranians we're just we just want freedom we just want to be free
01:50:48.400 from like a muslim nazi dictatorship and yeah we're grateful to the united states and israel
01:50:54.080 for helping us free our country and yet for some reason like the iranian right like the one
01:51:01.680 the person i've literally had family members be murdered by the islamic regime i'm the one that's
01:51:08.560 on trial by the two non-Iranians who are for some reason attacking me and thinking that they know
01:51:15.480 better than me right like it's just it's wild anyways there you go but I'm guys I'm so happy
01:51:21.540 you know what honestly it's like a a point of pride for me it's a point of pride for me
01:51:28.000 that I was able to defend um United States and Israel on Saudi Arabia news there you go I this
01:51:36.240 is why i think they probably won't have me back right because uh i was just like what's wrong
01:51:41.760 with israel i support israel meanwhile both both of those people they were kind of like going
01:51:49.900 through i guess like the approved talking points where oh israel bad america bad right and i'm just
01:51:57.720 like i don't care i i love israel i have the flag of israel i have the flag of america anyways there
01:52:04.380 you go totally unapologetic really not sure what show i'm on to be honest with you i don't know
01:52:10.600 because because i've been a journalist for over 35 years i reported from iraq i reported from
01:52:18.760 afghanistan good for you i've never been in such a comical i've i've never been in such a comical
01:52:25.520 space and you find it comical vj let me just say firstly i hope to god i i never ever call for
01:52:33.860 more bombing against any people because i've been in war zones and i've seen what bombing is like
01:52:40.680 and it's ruthless and gruesome and i hope to god i never get to the point where i say
01:52:45.600 that a war should be escalated thank god you're not iranian thank god you're not iranian because
01:52:50.080 but also but also please make a point please go ahead vj because because this comedy show
01:52:58.800 you know has had me sitting and watching it for a little while. Go ahead. I would like what I would
01:53:04.780 like to say is that aerial bombardment of the kind that the United States is deploying against Iran
01:53:11.620 is what was deployed against Iraq to destroy entire cities. I reported from Fallujah and
01:53:18.540 Ramadi watched the city get basically worn down but that did not allow the United States to have
01:53:25.900 authority over the iraqis they were able to destroy bridges they were able to destroy
01:53:31.900 infrastructure of different kinds but they couldn't command the ground and and there's
01:53:37.180 a reason for that the united states is not has not a military force or a political force capable
01:53:44.300 of commanding the ground the same thing in afghanistan despite the fact that you know
01:53:49.740 what people thought of the taliban the united states could command the skies it could destroy
01:53:55.100 infrastructure but it found no way despite 20 years of trying to command the ground so in iran
01:54:04.940 i would say just if we learn from iraq and from afghanistan i would say that you know you can use
01:54:12.060 a nuclear bomb on tehran you can do all kinds of things from the air all kinds of atrocities
01:54:18.140 but to command the ground is different and and despite even if there are enormous numbers of
01:54:24.060 people who don't like the situation in Iran today, that doesn't mean that they will be able
01:54:30.140 to take advantage of anarchy to make their point heard or to organize themselves into a coherent
01:54:36.480 force. What you saw happen in Egypt, for instance, in the chaos of Tahrir Square, which resulted
01:54:43.140 first in the Muslim Brotherhood coming to power and then a military coup led by General Abdul
01:54:48.240 what you saw there was a kind of textbook of what happens when you don't think these things through
01:54:55.380 you can have hopes and feelings and you can have desire for a certain kind of outcome but there is
01:55:02.340 no strategic possibility given the nature of us power today to bring you to that that conclusion
01:55:09.740 and i very much want to make that point for this reason that this is not about a politics i'm trying
01:55:16.420 to put forward a point about strategy not politics can i just add to that if i may the um when you
01:55:24.740 are a soldier i spent half my life as a soldier i still am a soldier actually uh but then into
01:55:29.460 politics and as a soldier you want to know why you're fighting you want to know why military
01:55:34.580 might is being used why you're stepping into harm's way that's the reason why it's important
01:55:40.100 that your commander-in-chief your political leader explains what the actual objectives the
01:55:45.620 long-term objective is what victory actually looks like it's also important because you keep your
01:55:51.220 allies close to you as well and from a british perspective we don't have a closer ally than the
01:55:56.660 united states but our relationship with this particular regime with donald trump is being
01:56:01.540 tested because we don't know where he wants to go and that makes it very very difficult to support
01:56:06.020 him it used to be going back to the second world war where we would be able to share ideas and
01:56:11.620 concerns we've got this challenge we've got this issue they would suggest yeah that's because
01:56:16.660 winston churchill was actually protecting england from the durkas right uh england today uh
01:56:23.460 unfortunately it's a little bit lost right like england the england of today is not the england of
01:56:29.860 uh world war ii so yeah tobias there's a reason that president trump and even jd vance have spoken
01:56:38.500 out about uh the uk and yeah i agree with texas texas troop uk is literally not america's closest
01:56:47.140 ally right like god like these people like these people are insane like i'm sitting i'm just i'm
01:56:53.380 literally sitting there and i'm like wait this guy is saying that england is like the the uk the uk
01:57:00.580 under keir starmer didn't even allow uh the americans to use the american air bases it was
01:57:06.660 only when the the new uh prime minister came in that uh you know american planes uh left from from
01:57:14.820 from the uk right but but this guy is like oh uk is is america's strongest allies zart really are
01:57:22.500 you kidding me yeah maybe when winston churchill was around there's a reason that winston churchill
01:57:28.660 was a strong ally of of the united states right because winston churchill was also fighting the
01:57:34.260 durkas but this guy he's like oh well america's not telling us yeah maybe they're not telling
01:57:39.780 you what's going on because your country is infiltrated by like the jihadis right like
01:57:44.980 your country and your government is literally infiltrated with durkas so why would anyone in
01:57:50.820 their right mind tell um uk the strategy unfortunately like guys remember mahyar
01:57:57.540 Martoussi literally had to leave the UK because of the Durka infiltration and he's in the United
01:58:04.240 States now. So like absolutely insane. And this guy is like, well, the UK, the UK is America's
01:58:11.120 strongest ally. And I'm just sitting there and I'm like, what? What? And I'm like, okay, so the guys,
01:58:20.700 this is how we know, this is how we know that these people are literally insane and they absolutely,
01:58:24.980 they know nothing but these people these people are stuck in their own bubbles right and
01:58:32.660 the fact that i was there just literally calling out their nonsense point by point they were
01:58:39.860 freaking out and they didn't know what to do it looks like it's also important because you keep
01:58:44.900 your allies close to you as well and yeah and the united states is keeping israel it's you know
01:58:51.300 closest ally very close to them right so yeah the united states is is keeping uh their allies very
01:58:58.420 close uk is not you know really an ally from a british perspective we don't have a closer ally
01:59:04.660 than the united states but our relationship with this particular regime with donald trump
01:59:09.380 is being tested because we don't know where he wants to go and that makes it very very difficult
01:59:13.700 to support him it used to be going back to the second world war where we'll be able to share
01:59:19.140 ideas and concerns we've got this challenge we've got this issue they would suggest one option we
01:59:24.500 would suggest something else we would actually be able to come out with a coherent uh strategy
01:59:31.300 to actually deal with a change on the ground and at the moment there's been little change on the
01:59:35.940 ground you keep mentioning the the death of the ayatollah that's actually neither here or there
01:59:40.340 if the regime is now more robust more uh more authoritarian because the irgc has come into play
01:59:47.940 and we failed to understand the um i think the intelligence base from iran the fact that they
01:59:54.580 have thousands upon thousands of drones shihad drones and so forth long-range missiles which
01:59:59.780 wasn't factored in and that's causing mayhem and we'll continue oh no oh no guys guys guys
02:00:07.140 he's talking about the shahid drones he's saying that the islamic regime has thousands upon
02:00:16.420 thousands of shahid drones do you guys know where i'm going with this do you guys know
02:00:28.740 he's talking about the shahid drones oh no guys i'm so scared oh no
02:00:39.220 guys these these are the drones these are the drones that he's speaking about
02:00:46.420 You guys, who knows where I'm going to go with this?
02:00:54.100 Wait.
02:00:59.380 Guys, who knows where I'm going to go with this?
02:01:03.880 These, oh, by the way, he couldn't even pronounce it properly, right?
02:01:06.620 Like, he didn't even know how to pronounce it, first of all.
02:01:08.580 But regardless.
02:01:16.420 Guys, guys, who knows where I'm going with this?
02:01:21.720 I'm not looking at the comments right now because I'm pulling up the video, but you guys let me know who said it first, because, because...
02:01:32.720 He's talking about the scary drones! Oh no, the drones are so scary!
02:01:43.360 Oh, no.
02:01:45.100 Oh, no.
02:01:45.740 So scary.
02:01:49.340 Where is it?
02:01:50.400 God.
02:01:50.920 I need to find this.
02:01:52.180 Wait.
02:02:09.480 Here we go.
02:02:10.460 Here we go.
02:02:11.120 guys these are the drones right first of all he the guy doesn't even pronounce it properly right
02:02:19.780 he doesn't pronounce it properly but let's just see it let's see how he pronounces it
02:02:23.160 because we don't know where he wants to go and that makes it very very difficult to support him
02:02:27.980 it used to be going back to the second world war where we would be able to share ideas and
02:02:33.440 concerns we've got this challenge we've got this issue they would suggest one option we would
02:02:38.140 suggest something else we would actually be able to come out with a coherent uh strategy to actually
02:02:45.240 deal with a change on the ground and at the moment there's been little change on the ground you keep
02:02:50.220 mentioning the death of the ayatollah that's actually neither here or there if the regime
02:02:54.680 is now more robust more uh more authoritarian because the irgc has come into play and we've
02:03:02.260 failed to understand the um i think the intelligence base from iran the fact that they have thousands
02:03:09.180 upon thousands of drones shahad drones okay it's not shahad drones you fool it's shahid or shaheed
02:03:17.100 it's shaheed drones it's pronounced it's not shahad it's shaheed by the way guys these are
02:03:23.180 the drones these are the drones that he is referring to guys i found the clip guys what
02:03:30.880 in the allah akbar north korea jihadi durka mariachi music is happening here where remember
02:03:38.360 guys i shared this clip like i don't know four or five months ago and uh you can see the islamic
02:03:46.580 regime right they're bragging about their shahad their their shahad drones right the ones that are
02:03:56.060 like loud noises so guys so so guys when he said that i was trying so hard not to laugh because
02:04:04.260 when he said the islamic regime has thousands upon thousands of shahad drones all i could think of
02:04:11.480 was this video and i was trying so hard not to laugh do you guys understand how hard it was for
02:04:16.460 me not to laugh right look at let's look at look at this and guys i still don't i still don't know
02:04:22.440 why they have this weird like mariachi music and you know to all any mexicans who are watching i
02:04:29.120 apologize i don't know why the islamic regime is taking mariachi music and like playing it behind
02:04:34.820 the scenes and then they're literally bragging about the loud noises that their drones make
02:04:39.920 right
02:04:52.080 yeah and then and then they say yaw hussein right so hussein is one of their like
02:04:56.880 um you know dead arab warlords that they worship right so they're like yaw hussein
02:05:09.920 Oh, no, my ears.
02:05:14.340 The one guy's like,
02:05:28.480 which is like, praise Allah,
02:05:30.800 right? So it's like, they hear the loud
02:05:34.460 noises, and they're just like, wow.
02:05:36.580 You can even see this one
02:05:38.500 imam like the durka that the turban had durka he's like oh he's like oh oh it's so loud it's
02:05:46.100 so loud my ear right and then the other guy's like ah and then they're all just like whoa
02:05:50.900 look at the loud noises right
02:05:52.420 by the way isn't anyone like concerned about i don't know carbon monoxide poisoning
02:06:09.220 i don't know man like isn't isn't this like a health hazard like i don't know does this
02:06:13.980 not contribute to carbon monoxide poisoning i don't know man like this is just absolutely insane
02:06:20.100 But so when that British guy was like, Iran has thousands upon thousands of Shahad drones, I'm like, oh, you mean the Mexican mariachi band, right?
02:06:33.240 Okay, okay, so guys, this is like the most
02:07:03.160 hilarious part here so this guy okay so this durka he goes back and he's like
02:07:07.980 he's like he's like he's like so means was it loud
02:07:22.380 means loud and then is like you know it's like the verb so was it so he's like
02:07:27.840 was it loud? And then he's like, did it scare you? Did the loud noises scare you? And then he
02:07:35.420 continues, like, I'll just, because I already know what he's going to say. So basically, he's like,
02:07:39.320 was it loud? Did the noises scare you? And then he's like, don't worry, you're safe. We're here.
02:07:46.420 We will protect you. Meanwhile, this Durka, he's wearing a face mask and sunglasses. Why? Because
02:07:54.200 he's literally afraid of being identified, right? So the Durkhas, they wear face masks and sunglasses
02:08:02.160 to help prevent them from being identified. Why? Because they know that the Islamic regime is weak.
02:08:09.600 They know that the time is coming. So he's literally hiding his identity because he's
02:08:16.820 trying to survive the overthrow of the islamic regime this is what like those people that i was
02:08:24.500 like debating with they don't they don't see this right so literally when i say to them i'm like
02:08:29.060 you're not iranian you don't monitor islamic regime state tv you have no idea what you're
02:08:34.260 talking about this is what i mean right this is what i mean because like if i was even going to
02:08:40.500 talk about this video again they would be like nothing she is saying is based in fact right
02:08:47.940 meanwhile like literally everything that's coming out of their mouths is garbage right like when
02:08:52.820 both of those people when they open their mouths it's just garbage comes out but then they have
02:08:58.020 the audacity to say that i'm the one who doesn't know what i'm talking about but uh like if i was
02:09:04.580 going to ask them about this this shahead drone that would be expert mode and their their brains
02:09:09.380 would probably just like you know explode or something anyways but so so here the guy's
02:09:14.660 like was it loud did it scare you but don't worry we'll we're here we'll protect you from the loud
02:09:20.660 noises he's like he's like this was just a game this is just a game that we want to share that
02:09:29.540 we want to show you he's like did you get stressed right so is that's you know it's the word stress
02:09:41.060 but um he says he's like did you get stressed out by the loud noises
02:09:51.300 look not only not only do not only are like the derkas there but the derkas literally bring their
02:09:56.980 like garbage bag concubines, and then they're like bastard children, right? So like, how insane is
02:10:03.340 this? Like, what in the North Korea Allahu Akbar jihad are we watching right now, where not only
02:10:09.100 are they like, you know, like, this is literally like a potential carbon monoxide hazard for these
02:10:16.320 little children, right? Because all the durkas, they're literally bringing their their concubines
02:10:21.680 and their master children with them right and i i don't know what's going on here right welcome to
02:10:29.040 the islamic regime yeah and then and then then he says something in hebrew something like i think
02:10:38.800 he's like you know he's threatening israel here right but it's like a um it's like a just terrible
02:10:43.520 accent sorry guys that's so funny i'm so sorry we have to go back and listen to that again he's like
02:11:10.800 shalom i know what shalom means but like he's trying to sound so threatening he's like shalom
02:11:16.800 and then i don't know he says something in hebrew i hear the yahood part which means like jew
02:11:22.240 but i don't know the rest of it
02:11:23.440 like what is that like what is this weird mariachi like mexican music right but anyways so yeah so
02:11:47.660 so these these are the shahad drones remember because the the british guy he called them the
02:11:54.620 shahad drones and he's like iran and by the way i hate it when they refer to it as iran it's the
02:12:00.380 islamic republic but that british dude he's like iran has thousands upon thousands of shahad drones
02:12:08.220 and i'm like oh really this one this one here by the way by the way guys uh let's not forget
02:12:15.180 that the united states reverse engineered the shahid or the shaheed drone they reverse engineered
02:12:22.700 the shaheed drone and the united states has the lucas drone right the lucas drones were reverse
02:12:28.780 engineered from jihadi technology in order to combat right uh the the the shaheed drones
02:12:36.860 And honestly, like, all that video reminds me of is this.
02:12:46.980 I mean, I might get a copyright strike for this, but it's totally worth it.
02:12:53.140 It's just totally worth it, right, guys?
02:12:55.440 Totally worth it.
02:12:56.920 Like, whenever I see that mariachi drone video, and they're like, oh, the sound, and everyone's like, oh, it's so loud.
02:13:06.120 it's so loud like i just think of this really every time i see that like that that mexican
02:13:14.200 shaheed drone video i literally think of like loud noises because they're like
02:13:19.560 oh did this sound scare you anyways going back to um the insanity going back to the insanity
02:13:29.000 uh range missiles right so now now you guys have some context for uh this this literal idiot i'm
02:13:38.840 sorry like i i'm not supposed to swear but i mean he is an idiot okay he's literally an idiot and
02:13:45.080 he's like oh the the islamic regime iran which look i hate that but anyway he's like they have
02:13:52.680 thousands upon thousands of shahad missiles i'm like but you can't even pronounce it properly
02:13:58.360 And what, are you, like, this guy is saying, like, he's talking about those drones that I just shared with you, right?
02:14:05.420 With, like, the weird mariachi music.
02:14:07.940 And I'm sitting there, like, do you see my face?
02:14:10.480 I'm, like, I'm just, like, where am I right now?
02:14:14.520 Like, these people are literally idiots.
02:14:23.060 I'm not using it as a swear word.
02:14:25.080 I just don't know how else to.
02:14:26.740 I don't know how else to describe these people.
02:14:31.940 My face is just like, what am I dealing with right now?
02:14:36.040 Because these people, they are so stuck in their bubble and they actually think that they know something about the Middle East because no one's ever actually challenged them.
02:14:49.500 Um, and, uh, okay guys, I know I'm going to get to the super chats in a bit, but I am,
02:14:55.700 you know, I promised myself to make an effort to focus on, um, uh, you know, rumble chats.
02:15:03.460 So I actually have the rumble chat as a pop-out and I just wanted to share, um, this, this,
02:15:12.000 uh, this, this rumble chat, which is really funny.
02:15:15.220 so look at this so e marquee says la durka racha which i absolutely love that so rumble rant from
02:15:24.100 e marquee la durka racha i think that is a perfect way to describe the um jihadi drones
02:15:34.420 with the weird mariachi music again like i don't know why they're they're doing the mariachi music
02:15:40.820 but it is what it is but yeah like able to come i mean like these people think they know everything
02:15:46.180 and then i'm just i'm just sitting there i'm like really really like i i just have to sit through
02:15:50.660 this and i oh my gosh i was literally just i was looking at the clock the entire time anyways
02:15:55.620 let's continue we're we're almost done we have about like 10 minutes left to go even though
02:16:01.140 we're like already an hour and a half in chief your political leader explains what the actual
02:16:06.100 objectives the long-term objectives is what let me go back to that there we go let's let's start
02:16:13.060 with like mr red face because the bring you to that that conclusion and i very much want to make
02:16:18.820 that point for this reason that this is not about a politics i'm trying to put forward a point about
02:16:25.460 strategy not politics oh okay so so so so this guy went from being a journalist to be a military
02:16:32.580 strategist right so wow okay so he's like it's it's not about politics anymore now it's about
02:16:37.940 military strategy right can i just add to that if i may the um when you are a soldier i spent
02:16:45.380 half my life as a soldier i still am a soldier actually uh but then into politics and as a
02:16:50.900 soldier you want to know why you're fighting you want to know why military might is being used why
02:16:55.540 you're stepping into harm's way that's the reason why it's important that your commander-in-chief
02:17:01.460 your political leader explains what the actual objectives the long-term objective is what victory
02:17:07.620 actually looks like it's also important because you keep your allies close to you as well and
02:17:13.220 from a british perspective we don't have a closer ally than the united states but our relationship
02:17:18.580 with this particular regime with donald trump is being tested because we don't know where he wants
02:17:23.220 to go and that makes it very very difficult to support him it used to be you know it's actually
02:17:28.100 kind of insulting to call uh president trump and his administration the regime because that implies
02:17:35.620 some sort of like authoritarian dictatorship right and like just like you can tell like just very
02:17:42.340 very insulting um very anti-trump and uh yeah but i mean that basically tells you everything you need
02:17:50.420 to know because this this guy he's literally uh comparing president trump and his administration
02:17:57.620 to the islamic regime which is an actual totalitarian dictatorship that literally
02:18:01.860 murders iranians every day right so just shame on him shame on you
02:18:08.580 shame on you oh sorry guys
02:18:20.580 it looks like it's also important because you keep your allies close to you as well
02:18:25.940 and from a british perspective we don't have a closer ally than the united states but our
02:18:30.660 relationship with this particular regime with donald trump is being tested because we don't
02:18:35.300 know where he wants to go and that makes it very very difficult to support him it used to be going
02:18:40.260 back to the second world war where we'll be able to the share ideas and concerns we've got this
02:18:45.380 challenge we've got this issue they would suggest one option we would suggest something else we would
02:18:50.500 actually be able to come out with a coherent uh strategy to actually deal with a change on the
02:18:58.260 ground and at the moment there's been little change on the ground you keep mentioning the
02:19:01.700 the death of the ayatollah that's actually neither here or there if the regime is now more robust
02:19:07.460 more uh more authoritarian because the irgc has come into play and we've failed to understand the
02:19:15.300 um i think the intelligence base from iran the fact that they have thousands upon thousands of
02:19:21.220 drones shihad drones and so forth long-range missiles which wasn't factored in and that's
02:19:26.020 causing mayhem and will continue to cause mayhem across the middle east so by all means use
02:19:32.100 america's superior military might the best in the world but it needs to set sit next to a coherent
02:19:38.900 well thought through strategy that leads to victory and right now as i say it's not clear
02:19:44.580 what that is all right goldie your your right of reply to that i mean again all i'm hearing is just
02:19:52.100 utter nonsense from two people who aren't iranian they have no idea what's happening uh with respect
02:19:58.020 to um but whether or not okay well sure sure so let's talk about this you know comment about how
02:20:06.100 America boots on the ground. Well, the Iranian people have made it very clear that they are the
02:20:12.000 boots on the ground. In fact, the Iranian people fighting against the Islamic regime are the biggest
02:20:16.660 allies. And so Iranians always said, we don't even need boots on the ground. What we need
02:20:20.320 is to give the Iranian people a chance. And that's exactly what President Trump is doing
02:20:24.700 by weakening the structures of oppression of the Islamic regime. And again, this whole thing of,
02:20:32.260 oh we don't know what the strategy is no one's supposed to know what the strategy is because
02:20:36.460 if we can figure out the strategy then the islamic regime can figure out the strategy as well
02:20:41.140 however president trump knows and understands that the islamic regime has posed an existential threat
02:20:46.540 to the united states since they came to power in 1979 chanting you know death to america calling
02:20:52.860 america the great satan uh you know during the iraq conflict uh it was actually the islamic
02:20:58.360 regime through their proxies that were murdering thousands of American soldiers and you know when
02:21:04.180 President Trump exterminated Qasem Soleimani back on January 2020 Iranians were happy and Iranians
02:21:10.020 were grateful and this whole nonsense about how the IRGC is now in charge they've always been in
02:21:15.400 charge the the IRGC was created back in 1979 by the Islamic regime to protect the revolution to
02:21:22.100 protect their jihad and to basically protect the Islamic regime from the Iranian people and to
02:21:29.180 prevent the Iranian people from rising up. So everything that's happening right now, this is
02:21:34.160 basically what the Islamic regime has been doing. And shame on anyone who blames the United States
02:21:39.220 for the fact that the Islamic regime has been engaging in war crimes and crimes against humanity
02:21:44.140 against the Iranian people for the last 47 years. Because you know what? America was not involved
02:21:49.260 when the Islamic regime murdered 22-year-old Mahsa Amini
02:21:53.120 just because she was showing a strand of her hair.
02:21:55.680 America was not involved when the Islamic regime shot 8-year-old Kian Pyrfalak
02:22:00.400 when he was sitting in the back seat of his father's car.
02:22:03.160 The Islamic regime did all of this, and no one can blame America or Israel for this.
02:22:09.680 Okay, Vijay, I want to ask you, many proponents of strong military action,
02:22:14.540 even within the republican party argue that unless iran is militarily defeated they will pose
02:22:21.100 a bigger danger to the region and the world than they did before the war what do you make of that
02:22:27.740 is that a sound assessment or is that warmongering
02:22:36.460 frankly i think that there are some problems uh with with an assessment like that because
02:22:42.060 On the one hand, and I know that my fellow panelists may not agree with me because we seem to have different realities,
02:22:50.140 but, you know, on the one hand, the Iranian government has said repeatedly that it's not interested in a nuclear weapon.
02:22:58.840 Whether it is or isn't is not germane to what I'm saying now, which is that, in fact, this particular attempt,
02:23:05.960 this military attempt by the united states might provoke further nuclear proliferation in the
02:23:12.100 region um if you followed the recent one two three agreement do you do you see my face here
02:23:18.820 do you see that this guy this communist he's literally blaming the united states
02:23:25.200 for the islamic regime wanting to build a nuclear bomb and i'm just like my face is like
02:23:31.780 What in the Allahu Akbar jihad am I listening to right now?
02:23:37.580 Anyways, let's continue.
02:23:39.380 Oh, guys, it gets worse.
02:23:41.440 It gets worse.
02:23:42.840 That the United States and Saudi Arabia have made,
02:23:46.060 this is an agreement that might lead to Saudi Arabia procuring a nuclear weapon.
02:23:51.920 They have said that that's not their intention.
02:23:54.960 It's for civilian purposes.
02:23:56.140 Everybody seems to be saying that.
02:23:57.780 That's absolutely correct, because that's exactly what the Iranians have also been saying, that it's not their intention.
02:24:04.020 But I agree with you. That's what they've said.
02:24:06.840 But the one, two, three agreement is a sign, potential sign of a further proliferation of nuclear weapons in the region.
02:24:15.060 Israel has nuclear weapons.
02:24:17.480 Did you see how he just like, he's like, Israel has nuclear weapons.
02:24:22.940 yeah, for good reason, because Israel is literally surrounded by 57, 56 Muslim countries that chant
02:24:31.940 death to Israel and want to destroy Israel. So yeah. So what if Israel has nuclear weapons? Good.
02:24:37.760 I'm glad that Israel has nuclear weapons. I'm Israel Chai. God bless Israel. They need those
02:24:44.180 nuclear weapons to make sure that they're not attacked by the other countries, right? And
02:24:50.080 Israel has never threatened anyone with nukes the way that the Islamic regime has. Guys, the Islamic
02:24:55.700 regime, literally on their propaganda TV networks, the Islamic regime has shared AI-generated videos
02:25:03.300 on Durka News Network of how they plan on nuking, nuking the White House and Washington, D.C. and
02:25:11.240 the Statue of Liberty, right? Israel has never once threatened to nuke anyone. So am I glad that
02:25:20.420 Israel has nukes? Yes, 100%. The same reason that I'm happy that America has nukes. You know why?
02:25:26.800 Because, you know, America as a leader of the free world is keeping the rest of us safe from
02:25:32.520 you jihadis right but look look he's like this conversation this this panel is supposed to be
02:25:41.620 about iran but the guys he's like israel has nukes good i'm glad you know what other country has
02:25:46.680 nukes pakistan why does pakistan have nukes buddy why don't you talk about that made um this is an
02:25:53.580 agreement that might lead to saudi arabia procuring a nuclear weapon this is right so so he's he's
02:26:00.440 blaming the United States for a bunch of Durka countries wanting to, like, get nuclear weapons.
02:26:06.720 Have said that that's not their intention.
02:26:09.300 It's for civility.
02:26:10.100 Also, did you see, did you see how the news panelist, she interjected, so when he was
02:26:17.640 like, this might lead to Saudi Arabia having nuclear weapons, and she's like, no, no, no,
02:26:22.680 Saudi Arabia has said that this is not their intention, because again, this is a Saudi
02:26:27.860 Arabian news network this is a Saudi Arabian news network so uh you know like they have to be like
02:26:34.740 I guess pro-Saudi policy guys keep in mind Saudi Arabia is not a free country Saudi Arabia is not
02:26:41.180 a free country right so um the fact that I was on Saudi Arabian uh tv and I'm I'm saying I love
02:26:50.100 Israel I support Israel good for Israel right like that the the news anchor caught like she cut me
02:26:57.280 off when I said that. But now when this communist, he's like, well, Saudi, this might create a
02:27:05.080 nuclear weapon. She's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Saudi, right? Because you know
02:27:08.440 what she's worried about, guys? She's worried about... So guys, I guarantee you that I'm
02:27:13.540 probably never going to go back on Al-Arabia anytime soon, if ever. But that's okay. Guys,
02:27:21.240 I had my one opportunity. I was like, you know what? I'm going to... You know what? If I'm going
02:27:25.700 to go on i'll if i'm gonna go on saudi arabia um news i'm gonna like like i'm just gonna go for it
02:27:32.940 right like go big or go home so there you go it was i i went big i went big attempt this military
02:27:42.240 attempt by the united states might provoke further nuclear proliferation in the region
02:27:47.700 um if you followed the recent one two three agreement that the united states and saudi
02:27:53.420 Arabia have made, this is an agreement that might lead to Saudi Arabia procuring a nuclear
02:27:59.700 weapon. This is right on cue, right on cue, right on cue. She's like, no, no, no.
02:28:04.840 This military attempt by the United States might provoke further nuclear proliferation
02:28:10.960 in the region. If you followed the recent one, two, three agreement that the United States
02:28:16.940 and Saudi Arabia have made, this is an agreement that might lead to Saudi Arabia procuring
02:28:23.300 a nuclear weapon this is they have said that that's not their intention it's yes for civilian
02:28:28.980 everybody seems to be saying that that's absolutely correct because that's exactly
02:28:33.060 what the iranians have also been saying that it's not their intention but but i i it's not the
02:28:38.100 iranians you communists it's the islamic regime i'm the iranian on the panel agree with you that's
02:28:44.100 what they've said um but the one two three agreement is a sign potential sign of a a further
02:28:50.980 proliferation of nuclear weapons in the region israel has nuclear weapons um you know other
02:28:56.580 countries might now now decide the best way to seek security is through a nuclear weapon
02:29:01.940 in fact the iranians might escalate to a nuclear weapon um because they say that look you either
02:29:08.420 look at libya on the one side gave up a weapon everything was destroyed and north korea on the
02:29:13.940 other so this is a great danger not only to west asia but all of asia if we're going to see nuclear
02:29:20.900 proliferation in the region um this threatens the situation across asia so that's one thing i would
02:29:27.080 say that i worry about that this conflict might might harden things and push these countries to
02:29:33.260 go nuclear a very dangerous secondly iran has not exhausted its escalation ladder okay guys okay
02:29:41.020 guys is do you know how hard it was for me at this part not to um not to like burst out laughing
02:29:52.360 because now this this communist he's like guys you haven't seen nothing yet iran he means the
02:30:01.100 islamic regime he's like the islamic regime is holding back they haven't even unleashed their
02:30:05.640 military power against the united states yet and i'm sitting there and i'm and i'm just like
02:30:10.800 look guys i was trying really hard i was trying really hard to be professional but just just
02:30:20.420 listen to this though so he's basically saying that um the islamic regime i hate when he says
02:30:27.040 iran uh he's like he's like the islamic regime has not even unleashed the full force of their
02:30:33.200 strength yet right situation across asia so that's one thing i would say that i worry about that this
02:30:39.400 conflict might might harden things and push these countries to go nuclear a very dangerous secondly
02:30:46.920 iran has not exhausted its escalation ladder it still has a number of quite dangerous options
02:30:53.800 which i think the united states is not uh you know do you see my face i'm just i'm just like
02:30:59.560 yeah okay do you see me i'm just like right what is i'm like what is this right now what am i
02:31:09.640 listening to right now right things and push these countries to go nuclear are very dangerous secondly
02:31:17.800 iran has not exhausted its escalation ladder it still has a number of quite dangerous options
02:31:24.680 which I think the United States has not factored in. For instance, Iranian forces,
02:31:31.720 whether they are pro-Iranian or they are proxy forces or whatever, in Iraq and other parts of
02:31:39.240 the region haven't blown the whistle yet. They haven't started to act. The United States has
02:31:44.920 to be aware that Iran is holding back. Its escalation has some potential to it. They can
02:31:51.000 rise in the escalation ladder whereas the united states has almost come to the very top that's why
02:31:57.080 i earlier said not facetiously that you might have to drop a nuclear bomb on tehran
02:32:02.760 so guys this this is the second time this is the second time that this communist is like oh the the
02:32:10.420 the islamic regime is holding back because otherwise the united states is gonna have to
02:32:15.020 nuke tehran like what like do you see my face here do you see my face i just i you know what
02:32:23.080 i paused at the perfect moment do you see my face i'm just like really really right like i'm just
02:32:30.700 like i'm like what in the aloha akbar jihad am i listening to right now and started to act uh the
02:32:36.040 united states has to be aware that iran is holding back its escalation uh has some potential to it
02:32:42.380 They can rise in the escalation ladder, whereas the United States has almost come to the very top.
02:32:48.600 That's why I earlier said, not facetiously, that you might have to drop a nuclear bomb on Tehran.
02:32:55.020 That's what worries me.
02:32:56.720 What worries me with the whole shock and awe mentality, which begins with the war on Iraq in 2003,
02:33:05.500 is that the United States military has ceased to think about escalation.
02:33:09.520 it goes hard it goes very hard at the beginning and then you're sort of stuck if it doesn't work
02:33:15.680 what do you do next do you keep going hard you try to go harder harder is very dangerous so they've
02:33:22.480 run out of very many military options what remains are political options and when it comes to
02:33:28.800 political options it looks like with the help of the pakistanis the omanis and others that iran
02:33:36.160 might have the upper hand at this moment so you have to
02:33:39.440 sorry do you see my face do you see my face as soon as he says iran might have the upper moment
02:33:55.540 i'm literally biting my lips i'm literally trying not to laugh i'm trying not to laugh out loud i'm
02:34:02.980 like what what did i what like do you i'm like i'm literally sitting there and i'm like
02:34:10.940 is this real did did he actually say this like this guy's literally saying that the islamic
02:34:19.260 regime has the upper hand and i'm just sitting there and i'm i'm kind of laughing i mean i'm
02:34:25.260 biting my lip but you know guys i'm trying to be composed here like i have to be composed on
02:34:29.780 you know these guys I I have to be as professional as I can be I mean obviously you know once in a
02:34:36.320 while like someone says something and it's just like I can't help it but you know at this point
02:34:41.940 at this point when this like when this idiot was speaking I was like all right like I just I just
02:34:47.020 I was like Goldie brace yourself for anything and everything right so here I am literally
02:34:53.480 biting my lips trying not to laugh at the fact that this guy is like like do you understand what
02:35:01.260 he just said he said because pakistan is helping the islamic regime the islamic regime has the
02:35:10.020 upper hand over the united states right so so the islamic regime is more powerful than the united
02:35:16.220 states because pakistan is helping them and i'm just like what how can he even take that seriously
02:35:24.380 oh my gosh right the guy's like pakistan and pakistan and oman by the way oman so he's like
02:35:31.180 pakistan and oman are helping the islamic regime therefore therefore the islamic regime occupying
02:35:37.620 iran is more powerful than the united states and i'm just like okay okay like honestly like
02:35:46.780 you you can't even respond like what am i even supposed to say to this like what am i supposed
02:35:51.700 to say the guy's literally insane like he's literally an idiot right so the best way is
02:35:58.440 just kind of ignore it right that you might have to drop a nuclear bomb on tehran that's what
02:36:04.580 worries me what worries me right so so remember this communist he's more worried about the united
02:36:11.760 states dropping a nuclear bomb on on tehran than he is about the islamic regime dropping nukes on
02:36:19.960 the rest of the world which way more likely that that the islamic regime is going to uh you know
02:36:26.100 drop nuclear bombs right but this is this is the second time that he's now um he's accused the
02:36:33.000 United States of like trying to bomb or nuke like the second time that he's yeah right exactly like
02:36:41.240 pack it up boys pack it up go home boys Pakistan entered the chat right that's basically what he's
02:36:46.160 saying so he's accusing the United States of wanting to like nuke Tehran which is totally
02:36:52.480 false right that's never ever been on the table and then he's like oh because Pakistan is helping
02:36:58.940 the islamic regime pakistan and oman by the way uh you know america should just pack it up and go
02:37:04.280 home because they can't beat the islamic regime right me with the whole shock and awe mentality
02:37:10.080 and then and then by the way like this is like this idiot he actually had the audacity
02:37:16.980 to accuse me of being a clown show right this is how stupid these people are
02:37:21.780 right remember every accusation is an admission of guilt so both of them started out by attacking me
02:37:28.860 and they're like oh this is a clown show and then they say the most idiotic things i've literally
02:37:33.940 ever heard right so um which begins you know with the war on iraq in 2003 is that the united
02:37:41.600 states military has ceased to think about escalation it goes hard it goes very hard at
02:37:47.320 the beginning and then you're sort of stuck if it doesn't work what do you do next do you keep
02:37:52.640 going hard you try to go harder harder is very dangerous so they've run out of very many military
02:38:00.000 options what remains are political options yeah apparently he's also a military strategist
02:38:05.120 and when it comes to political options it looks like he's he's also a he's also a political
02:38:11.120 strategist by the way right like with the help of the pakistanis the omanis and others that iran
02:38:17.500 might have the upper hand at this moment so you have he's like with the help of the pakistanis
02:38:39.340 and the omanis that the islamic regime has the upper hand over the united states i'm like are
02:38:44.540 you kidding me right oman oman and pakistan supposedly right so so oman and pakistan
02:38:54.280 supposedly combined are stronger than the u.s military
02:38:59.300 so you know what texas texas do you now understand why like before i started this
02:39:09.280 interview like this clip i was like texas like get a drink or grab a stress ball because
02:39:14.200 this is going to be a wild ride now you know do you see what i've been dealing with all day
02:39:19.980 like this this is
02:39:21.960 i was like you know and i basically guys americans i warned you americans i warned you i said you
02:39:32.380 know this is going to be a special edition of iran revolution live and i warned you guys i was
02:39:38.500 like we're good i'm glad i'm glad that you guys are laughing because like the entire time that i
02:39:46.900 was like filming like i was recording this and i was there all i could think of was i cannot wait
02:39:52.500 to share this with all of all of you know our american viewers because again the guy's like
02:40:01.160 oman and pakistan iran has the upper hand because of oman and pakistan
02:40:06.480 parts of the region haven't blown the whistle yet. They haven't started to act.
02:40:12.040 The United States has to be aware that Iran is holding back. Its escalation has some potential
02:40:18.100 to it. They can rise in the escalation ladder, whereas the United States has almost come to the
02:40:24.060 very top. That's why I earlier said, not facetiously, that you might have to drop a
02:40:29.560 nuclear bomb on Tehran. That's what worries me. What worries me with the whole shock and awe
02:40:35.480 mentality um which begins you know with the war on iraq in 2003 is that the united states military
02:40:43.480 has ceased to think about escalation it goes hard it goes very hard at the beginning and then you're
02:40:49.880 sort of stuck if it doesn't work what do you do next do you keep going hard you try to go harder
02:40:56.200 harder is very dangerous so they've run out of very many military options what remains are
02:41:02.520 political options and when it comes to political options it looks like with the help of the
02:41:09.000 pakistanis the omanis and others that iran might have the upper hand at this moment so you have to
02:41:15.580 divide this between the military options and the strategic political options and when it comes to
02:41:22.100 the military options it looks like the united states is near the top of the escalation ladder
02:41:27.120 When it comes to the strategic political options, I think the U.S. is being played by Iran, Pakistan, and Oman.
02:41:44.180 Guys, Americans, pack it up. Pack it up. Go home.
02:41:49.080 Because the United States, you guys have been played by Pakistan, Oman, and the Islamic regime.
02:41:57.120 oh my god i don't know i don't know what they're smoking i don't know what guys i don't know what
02:42:14.620 drugs they're on but all i can say is guys like don't do drugs drugs are bad moment so you have
02:42:21.380 to divide this between the military options and the strategic political options and when it comes
02:42:27.980 to the military options it looks like the united states is near the top of the escalation ladder
02:42:33.140 when it comes to the strategic political options i think the u.s is being played by iran pakistan
02:42:40.580 and oman goldie do you think that this conflict is increasing the danger of a nuclear build-up
02:42:48.380 not just in the region, but globally. In saying that Iran can't have a nuclear weapon,
02:42:54.680 has the United States, in effect, made so many countries now consider the need for a nuclear
02:43:00.360 option? I think it's absolutely incorrect to blame the United States for anything. Keep in mind,
02:43:06.620 Iran actually signed a nuclear non-proliferation treaty back when the Shah was in power.
02:43:11.400 And since the Islamic regime took over, they have spent over $2 trillion building at least
02:43:17.240 three secret underground nuclear facilities and as a former politician
02:43:21.000 who worked on the energy file in Ontario
02:43:22.920 briefly what I can tell you is that you know no government
02:43:26.760 spends two trillion dollars building underground
02:43:29.960 nuclear facilities you know under mountains because
02:43:33.200 you know they want to build a kebab stand or a botanical garden so
02:43:37.060 the Islamic regime has been trying to get to nuclear
02:43:41.800 proliferation and create the nuclear bomb for several
02:43:45.800 years and you know god bless israel uh for what they did last year and of course god bless america
02:43:51.160 as well for bombing and destroying those three nuclear facilities however now we've also heard
02:43:56.440 about pickaxe mountain another secret underground facility so uh the islamic regime has been uh
02:44:02.440 engaging in this in this behavior for a very long time because again i monitor islamic regime state
02:44:07.960 tv and what um what the imams and you know what the what the jihadis are saying is that it is
02:44:13.160 their Allah given right to to build and develop nuclear bombs and you know God
02:44:19.580 forbid God forbid the Islamic regime ever obtain a nuclear bomb because if you
02:44:23.600 think right now the situation is bad just imagine how much how much worse it's
02:44:27.740 going to be when you have this jihadi death cult that you know yells death to
02:44:31.780 America and death to Israel sending nuclear bombs everywhere and you know
02:44:35.920 there's a reason that Saudi Arabia is now allying with the United States in
02:44:41.540 in bombing and destroying IRGC bases and facilities
02:44:45.540 because even Saudi Arabia recognizes the dangers.
02:44:48.260 So I think we should all be grateful to America and Israel
02:44:52.260 for pretty much stopping the Islamic regime in their tracks
02:44:55.700 and preventing them from getting a nuclear bomb
02:44:58.040 because that's the trajectory that they were going down.
02:45:02.400 And then, of course, because, you know,
02:45:04.380 this is a Saudi Arabian news channel,
02:45:07.220 she has to clarify, right,
02:45:09.080 so that she so that the saudi arabians don't like aladdin her right so remember anytime something
02:45:15.480 anytime someone says something about saudi arabia she has to clarify otherwise she'll be like aladdin
02:45:21.480 right clarity the saudi the kingdom of saudi arabia hasn't been actively involved in numerous
02:45:29.000 operations this was one joint operation that it conducted with the united states on proxies in
02:45:34.760 iraq uh it hasn't been and the houthis and yeah it hasn't been targeting uh iran itself
02:45:42.040 and has been warning other countries including the united states to decrease this escalation
02:45:48.980 ladder uh no guys this isn't al jazeera so someone is asking um this is not al jazeera
02:45:55.500 al jazeera is um al jazeera is qatar this is al arabia let me just um share this really briefly
02:46:03.320 for our, because we have a lot of new viewers. So this is Al Arabiya. Oh, sorry, Al, sorry,
02:46:11.180 sorry, I mispronounced it. It's Al Arabiya. Al Arabiya is a Saudi news channel. And this is
02:46:19.300 the first time that I've been on a Saudi news channel, probably the last time that I will ever
02:46:27.300 be on a saudi news channel uh which is why i was like this is like my one shot i'm gonna go
02:46:34.660 for it which is why i'm like super uh pro israel on saudi tv i'm pro america on saudi tv and uh
02:46:45.220 yeah yeah so um al arab al arabia again not like um not a news network that i uh
02:46:54.500 like i i would like let me put it this way if i'm searching for news about the middle east i would
02:47:01.120 never go to al arabia i just wouldn't right like i don't view that i don't view this as like a
02:47:06.340 credible um media outlet because this is biased towards saudi policy right um but when you know
02:47:16.440 they were like goldie we want you on a panel to like defend iran i was like all right fine i'll
02:47:20.960 them, right? Because that's a little different. And I went there. Oh, oh, really? Oh, my gosh,
02:47:27.940 guys, I'm on the APAC list. Oh, my gosh, this is amazing. I'm Israel Chai. Wow, I'm on the APAC
02:47:37.920 list. That's amazing, because I'm not even American. And APAC is for Americans. So,
02:47:44.800 So Jurgen Van, since you are the expert on APAC, could you please email APAC and let
02:47:54.440 them know that I'm still waiting for my check, right?
02:47:57.580 Like, because apparently I've been on the APAC list for, I don't know, the last 10 years,
02:48:02.480 but I haven't been paid yet.
02:48:04.280 So yeah, can you just go back to your contacts in APAC and tell them that I'm still waiting
02:48:11.060 for my paycheck. Um, even though I'm not, um, American and, you know, APAC is an American
02:48:17.200 lobby group. So there you go. Um, but yeah, there you go, guys. So guys, that, that person,
02:48:24.520 Jurgen, whatever coming with the, the receipts. Oh no, guys, I've been exposed guys. I have been
02:48:32.580 exposed. Oh no. You know what? I'm just going to wrap it up. I'm going to wrap it up. Right.
02:48:38.560 I just have to pack it up, right? Because, you know, just like that Durka said, right? Oman and Pakistan, just because, you know, because Oman and Pakistan are helping, because Oman and Pakistan are helping the Islamic regime, Americans, guys, just retreat, right? Just retreat because Oman and Pakistan have entered the game. So I don't know, like, how is how is the US military might going to stand up to Oman and Pakistan, right?
02:49:08.560 in numerous operations this was one joint operation that it conducted with the united states
02:49:14.080 by the way guys i knew what i was doing here i knew what i was doing here when i said that
02:49:18.880 saudi arabia was helping um the united states to boom boom the irgc right like guys everything i
02:49:25.360 say here i know exactly what i'm doing i know this is a saudi arabian news network states in bombing
02:49:31.120 uh and destroying irgc bases and facilities god bless israel uh for what they did last year and
02:49:37.360 And, of course, God bless America as well for bombing and destroying those three nuclear facilities.
02:49:42.480 However, now we've also heard about Pickaxe Mountain, another secret underground facility.
02:49:47.160 So the Islamic regime has been engaging in this behavior for a very long time.
02:49:53.320 Because, again, I monitor Islamic regime state TV.
02:49:56.060 And what the imams and, you know, what the jihadis are saying is that it is their Allah-given right to build and develop nuclear bombs.
02:50:05.360 And, you know, God forbid, God forbid the Islamic regime ever obtain a nuclear bomb, because if you think right now the situation is bad, just imagine how much worse it's going to be when you have this jihadi death cult that, you know, yells death to America and death to Israel, sending nuclear bombs everywhere.
02:50:23.080 And, you know, there's a reason that Saudi Arabia is now allying with the United States in bombing and destroying IRGC bases and facilities, because even Saudi Arabia recognizes the dangers.
02:50:35.720 So I think we should all be grateful to America and Israel for pretty much stopping the Islamic regime in their tracks and preventing them from getting a nuclear bomb, because that's the trajectory that they were going down.
02:50:47.780 Mm hmm. The and just for clarity, the Saudi, the kingdom of Saudi Arabia hasn't been actively involved in numerous operations.
02:50:56.420 This was one joint operation that it conducted with the United States on proxies in Iraq.
02:51:03.280 It hasn't been and the Houthis.
02:51:05.580 And yet it hasn't been targeting Iran itself and has been warning other countries, including the United States, to decrease this escalation ladder.
02:51:16.420 uh tobias this idea of an increased nuclear danger president trump has again reiterated
02:51:24.520 iran can never have a nuclear weapon uh it says it had never intended to but is it increasing
02:51:31.980 the impetus to nuclearize their military given the escalation ladder that we've seen
02:51:38.860 uh yeah i mean look again a lot to unpick there firstly what america did in in pushing back
02:51:46.220 iran's uh nuclear ambitions um was uh phenomenal there's no doubt about it burying much of the
02:51:53.440 capability uh in the mountains because of the bombing that took place but it's done a lot more
02:51:59.660 than that we know that and if there was a potential breakout uh period that was shortened that iran
02:52:06.000 were able to procure even a low-yield nuclear weapon, I suspect Britain would be up front
02:52:12.740 working with America to make sure that never happened, using potential military force as well.
02:52:19.360 But our own agencies say that we're a long way off from that. Certainly, that's been pushed back
02:52:24.220 even further, which takes us back to today as to what is the strategy. The Houthis have been
02:52:29.720 mentioned the hamas and hezbollah where is the separate but linked strategy to tackle what the
02:52:37.080 houthis are doing in yemen where is the strategy to unpick and push back what hezbollah the
02:52:44.020 political strategy not the military one what hezbollah is doing in lebanon it was so sad to
02:52:48.800 visit lebanon over the last decade or so and see the demise of the you know the normal governance
02:52:54.720 there because the the the hezbollah was able to provide even schooling you know communities and
02:53:01.280 so forth members of parliament so this is insane guys so so the reason that the lebanese government
02:53:09.200 is in demise is because of hezbollah because hezbollah is occupying southern lebanon and
02:53:15.400 they're 100 funded by the islamic regime you idiots like the guys like at this point at this
02:53:21.740 point like i'm trying so hard not to swear and then he's like the hezbollah like who calls it
02:53:27.840 the hezbollah what does that even mean the hezbollah it's hezbollah and then he's like oh
02:53:33.600 hezbollah is providing schooling because because because the lebanese government can't really why
02:53:39.940 is that that's because hezbollah are terrorists like like he's not even making sense here i don't
02:53:45.600 even know i don't even know how i'm supposed to respond to this i'm like what are the aloha
02:53:50.300 akbar jihad am i listening to right now like what is this part like i don't even know what he's
02:53:55.820 saying he doesn't it's it's just like it's word salad it's he's just like the hezbollah lebanon
02:54:01.720 blah blah blah and i'm like what is like what what is he saying i don't even know what he's talking
02:54:06.100 about using potential military force as well but our own agencies say that we're a long way off
02:54:13.220 from that certainly that's been pushed back even further which takes us back to today as to what
02:54:18.340 is the strategy. The Houthis have been mentioned, Hamas and Hezbollah. Where is the separate but
02:54:24.920 linked strategy to tackle what the Houthis are doing in Yemen? Where is the strategy to unpick
02:54:32.420 and push back what Hezbollah, the political strategy, not the military one, what Hezbollah
02:54:37.160 is doing in Lebanon? It was so sad to visit Lebanon over the last decade or so and see the
02:54:42.500 demise of, you know, the normal governance there, because the Hezbollah was able to provide
02:54:49.460 even schooling, you know, communities and so forth, members of parliament, because in the absence of
02:54:55.600 government or other political parties, able to fill that space. That's where the international
02:55:00.460 community, along led by America possibly, should be working. That is the political strategy that
02:55:06.740 would then limit what iranians in involvement its proxy toxic influence across the middle east but
02:55:13.760 in this bombing of iran we can't we can't we don't hear of the detail to say this is what we'd like
02:55:20.560 to do in lebanon this is what we'd like to do in gaza i mean why hasn't hamas been completely
02:55:25.820 disarmed surely that was part of the well hamas hasn't been completely disarmed because they're
02:55:31.120 jihadi terrorists who do not want to be disarmed this is wild do you see like guys he's blaming
02:55:38.140 the united states and israel for the fact that a bunch of like inbred savage palestinians who go
02:55:43.800 death to america death to israel they haven't been disarmed really really you're you're blaming the
02:55:50.520 united states and israel for the fact that a bunch of seventh century inbred jihadi savages
02:55:55.700 haven't been disarmed wow okay like dude do you like this this is the not oh my gosh this is like
02:56:06.460 this is what i've been dealing with all day right so yeah i'm sharing my frustration with you guys
02:56:14.340 now because i'm literally sitting there and i'm like i'm just my face is like what in the
02:56:20.380 Al-Aqbar Jihad am I listening to right now?
02:56:22.760 Like, what is this garbage nonsense?
02:56:25.660 Because the absence of government or other political parties
02:56:30.080 is able to fill that space.
02:56:31.880 That's where the international community,
02:56:33.820 along led by America possibly, should be working.
02:56:36.780 That is the political strategy that would then limit
02:56:40.160 what Iranians' involvement is proxy toxic influence
02:56:44.260 across the Middle East.
02:56:45.880 But in this bombing of Iran, week on, week on,
02:56:49.420 we don't hear of the detail to say this is what we'd like to do this is what we'd like to do in
02:56:55.220 gaza why hasn't hamas been completely disarmed surely that was part of the 20 point plan but
02:57:01.760 they're kicking around they're still there they're still empowered things might have moved on the
02:57:06.800 last few days but ultimately you're then left with iran's proxy influence continuing despite the fact
02:57:13.260 the united states yeah this is this is literally why like do you see like he's literally proving
02:57:21.240 my point this is why i'm saying and i've said and i'm still saying you cannot negotiate with
02:57:27.500 terrorists if you want to get rid of the islamic regime threat you have to exterminate the islamic
02:57:34.400 regime because they are a cancer. And if you leave even one cancer cell alive, then it will
02:57:42.940 come back and it will come back even stronger. So this guy, he's like, he's like, why are they
02:57:50.580 still around? Yeah, because, because you have to exterminate them because these people do not want
02:57:56.860 peace. You idiot. Sorry, I shouldn't swear. Guys, I'm gonna take a break. I'll be back.
02:58:01.820 right like guys i was holding my composure so much here just look at my face like i'm just
02:58:09.640 that's where the international community belong led by america possibly should be working that
02:58:15.880 is the political strategy that would then limit what iranians in involvement its proxy toxic
02:58:22.740 influence across the middle east but in this bombing of iran we can't we can't we don't hear
02:58:29.300 of the detail to say this is what we'd like to do in Lebanon this is what we'd like to do in Gaza
02:58:34.480 I mean why hasn't Hamas been completely disarmed surely that was part of the 20 point plan but
02:58:40.660 they're kicking around they're still there they're still empowered things might have moved on the
02:58:45.700 last few days but ultimately you're then left with Iran's proxy influence continuing despite the fact
02:58:52.160 that the united states has hit iran hard and i point again to the fact that yes you do declare
02:58:59.600 the strategy so everybody else can see where you actually want to go that doesn't unveil the
02:59:05.640 tactics which i think is what goldie is perhaps confusing with the tactics you absolutely keep
02:59:10.840 close to your chest and i can say that again as a military person you don't share what you're going
02:59:15.760 to do but you do share the end result the end game as to what your object so so did you see
02:59:21.800 even there, even there, he still felt the need to like, um, like throw a jab at me. Right. He's
02:59:30.080 like, Oh, I think Golding is confused. Right. Like, so I'm literally guys, this is what I mean.
02:59:35.420 I'm literally being attacked by the communist, you know, guy. And then, then, and then the,
02:59:40.700 the supposed conservative guy, both of them are constantly attacking me because I'm just,
02:59:46.980 i'm just shutting down their propaganda and their narrative and they don't like that so then he's
02:59:52.420 like oh i think goldie is confused yeah okay i'm not confused buddy you're the one who's like
02:59:56.880 talking about the hezbollah has hit iran hard and i point again to the fact that yes you do declare
03:00:04.220 the strategy so everybody else can see where you actually want to go that doesn't unveil the
03:00:10.240 tactics which i think is what goldie is perhaps confusing with the tactics you absolutely keep
03:00:15.440 close to your chest and i can say that again as a military person you don't share what you're going
03:00:20.320 to do but you do share the end result the end game as to what your objectives are because that makes
03:00:26.080 sure that people stay on your side and i'm afraid america apart from israel we have to say many
03:00:32.880 right across the world are questioning where are you going with this donald trump where does it take
03:00:38.160 you okay goldie where do you have a response to that or then i'm going to move us on to our next
03:00:45.920 segment president trump has said has already said what his strategy is he said that the islamic
03:00:50.320 regime can never have a nuclear weapon the islamic regime is is still trying to build a nuclear
03:00:55.040 weapon and so president trump has made it very clear either you agree that you will never have
03:00:59.360 a nuclear weapon and you allow the united states to come in and take the enriched uranium or we're
03:01:03.680 going to destroy you and uh it seems like the islamic why does the world continue on why does
03:01:08.080 the world continue on because the islamic because the islamic regime is insane and they won't
03:01:14.800 surrender that's why it's continuing the islamic regime won't surrender the islamic regime has
03:01:19.760 said from the gecko that uh you know if push comes to shove they will rather do a scorched earth
03:01:26.640 strategy um and they will use the iranian people as human shields and hostages in order to guarantee
03:01:33.200 and ensure their survival this is why the iranian people are grateful for president trump and israel
03:01:38.320 doing what they're doing and you know they're saying just you know finish the job because when
03:01:42.400 it comes to the islamic regime if their lips are moving they are lying they engage in takia it's
03:01:48.000 what they've done for 47 years and president trump is calling out their nonsense so you're saying by
03:01:55.520 that that there has to be regime change in order for uh the united states to declare any form of
03:02:00.560 of victory is that what you're saying no what i'm saying is that uh you know the for the united
03:02:05.120 states you just said that i said for the united states to declare victory they have to destroy
03:02:09.780 the islamic regime ultimately regime change is a responsibility which is exactly
03:02:13.580 don't interrupt me because now you are confusing the two things there's a difference between
03:02:20.180 destroying your enemy there's a difference between destroying your enemy which is the irgc
03:02:25.060 versus the iranian people rising to overthrow the islamic regime two separate things so i would
03:02:31.040 appreciate if you can understand that distinction between the irgc and the islamic regime do not try
03:02:36.680 to trump an iranian who has been speaking about this and raising awareness about this like literally
03:02:41.000 my entire life so keep in mind guys okay let me let me pull up the boom boom bingo sheet here
03:02:47.040 right so this is like and you guys already know what i'm referring to right so if you if we look
03:02:52.740 at the boom-boom bingo sheet, okay? So this is our boom-boom bingo sheet, right? As you can see,
03:03:01.380 the IRGC, okay, this square here, the IRGC is one element of the Islamic regime, okay?
03:03:13.260 The entire system is the Islamic regime. And what I'm saying is that the reason that Iranians
03:03:21.920 can't rise up is because of the irgc right this and remember the irgc was created in 1979
03:03:31.840 to prevent the iranian people from rising up to overthrow the regime the regime includes all of
03:03:41.520 these other boxes right the regime is like these people and you know like like these people here
03:03:48.160 and the regime includes the assembly of experts and the state media like all these other boxes
03:03:56.480 right all these other boxes so this like this that foolish man he thought he could trump me
03:04:04.880 right like he thought he could trump me by catching me in like i don't know some sort
03:04:09.760 like i don't i don't know what he was trying to do but he thought he had outsmarted me and i'm like
03:04:15.520 no the the irgc needs to be destroyed the irgc needs to be destroyed so that the islam so that
03:04:24.400 the iranian people can overthrow the islamic regime because the irgc the islamic revolutionary
03:04:32.320 guard corps is is the military the paramilitary uh you know branch that was created by by the
03:04:41.120 durkas by the turban heads to keep the islamic regime in power right but again these guys are
03:04:47.520 so stupid right they literally know nothing about iran they know nothing about the islamic regime
03:04:53.360 that he thought that he could somehow trump me oh they're one in the same no they're not you idiot
03:04:59.440 anyways let's go back to that so anyways i i call him out right but i call him out but there you go
03:05:05.520 there you go guys so that's that's where he's like oh you you just said the the regime and i'm like
03:05:10.480 you idiot anyways the islamic regime if their lips are moving they are lying they engage in
03:05:16.400 takia it's what they've done for 47 years and uh president trump is calling out their nonsense
03:05:23.040 so you're saying by that that there has to be regime change in order for uh the united states
03:05:28.720 to declare any form of victory is that what you're saying no what i'm saying is that uh you know the
03:05:33.360 for the united states you just said that i said for the united states to declare victory they have
03:05:38.080 to destroy the islamic regime ultimately regime change is a responsibility don't interrupt me
03:05:45.520 because now you are confusing the two things there's a difference between destroying your
03:05:49.920 enemy there's a difference between destroying your enemy which is the irgc versus the iranian
03:05:55.360 people rising to overthrow the islamic regime two separate things so i would appreciate if you
03:06:01.040 can understand that distinction between the irgc and the islamic regime do not try to trump an
03:06:06.160 an Iranian who has been speaking about this and raising awareness about this like literally my
03:06:10.300 entire life okay so I don't know I'm not trying to do that I don't know who you think you are
03:06:15.240 yeah so the clarity the clarity is there's a difference between the IRGC the Islamic
03:06:19.900 Revolutionary Dark Court versus the Islamic regime which are the ayatollahs governing through
03:06:25.440 Sharia law two different things I didn't I didn't realize Donald Trump wanted regime change because
03:06:30.680 he's not said that for a little while now so thank you for clarifying that's what Donald Trump
03:06:34.960 is trying to do i never said that i said the iranian people i said there's you just said no
03:06:39.560 i said president trump's goal is to destroy the islamic revolutionary guard corps the irgc
03:06:46.160 the iranian people ultimately it's our responsibility to rise up and overthrow
03:06:51.420 the islamic regime the irgc is just one branch of the islamic regime the islamic regime
03:06:57.880 has many different branches the irgc is one aspect of the islamic regime
03:07:04.080 okay i'm going to move us on to u.s domestic uh implications for president trump uh he has said
03:07:11.880 openly that he isn't particularly phased by the upcoming midterm elections but surely the blowback
03:07:18.680 from what is an unpopular war must be of a concern to his fellow republicans because
03:07:24.940 so this you know what this is actually really important guys because um you know president
03:07:31.500 Trump claims that Saudi Arabia is an ally. One of the reasons I actually agreed to do this panel
03:07:39.240 is because I also wanted to see what the Saudi Arabian talking points are, right? Because I
03:07:44.720 usually like I never, I never tune into like, Saudi Arabia news, right? Like, I'm never going
03:07:52.540 to get that right. But apparently, the the narrative, like the approved talking points
03:07:58.700 within Saudi Arabia is that this is an unpopular war and that the vast majority of Americans are
03:08:07.400 against President Trump. And yeah, remember guys, when Jossim was on here, Jossim was calling out
03:08:16.140 the Saudi Arabians, right? So this is why I did this interview because I just, I was curious to
03:08:23.320 see like what sort of narrative uh we're gonna hear in saudi arabian news so there you go guys
03:08:30.680 these are the so-called allies got americans americans these are your allies literally in
03:08:36.040 english in english they're saying that oh like this war is unpopular with americans so there
03:08:42.120 you go guys of the islamic regime okay i'm gonna move us on to u.s domestic uh implications for
03:08:50.200 president trump uh he has said openly that he isn't particularly phased by the upcoming midterm
03:08:57.320 elections but surely the blowback from what is an unpopular war must be of a concern to his fellow
03:09:05.080 republicans because oh wait by the way guys by the way if you think if you think this is as bad
03:09:10.520 as it gets um it's about okay so we're about to get to the worst part we're about to get to the
03:09:17.080 worst part and then this part that we get to that's when i'm just like you know what i'm done
03:09:22.600 like i just like mentally i'm like i'm done and you guys will know exactly what i'm speaking about
03:09:29.560 when we get to it because it's coming up very very soon right of the islamic regime
03:09:37.080 okay i'm gonna move us on to u.s domestic uh implications for president trump uh he has said
03:09:43.640 openly that he isn't particularly phased by the upcoming midterm elections but surely the blowback
03:09:50.440 from what is an unpopular war must be of a concern to his fellow republicans because fuel prices have
03:09:58.200 surged up more than 30 percent since the war began and numerous consecutive opinion polls from a vast
03:10:05.080 swathe of different polling companies all show that americans are unhappy with the war the very
03:10:11.800 fact that the president continues to back down from his threats to escalate the conflict is a
03:10:17.400 sign to many that he's looking for an off-ramp vj has president trump and his administration
03:10:24.280 finally turned against the more hawkish neoconservatives within the party who want further
03:10:30.280 conflict or is that interesting yeah interestingly you know it's the old line from from bill clinton
03:10:39.480 it's the economy stupid and the reason i say that is is 24 hours ago donald trump scolded the oil
03:10:48.200 executives saying bring the price of oil down very interesting to see a u.s president effectively
03:10:54.920 demand that a coterie of oil executives by his command can bring oil prices down that was
03:11:03.000 interesting it is true that when there was the first sniff of a new ceasefire oil prices big
03:11:09.880 did begin to dip downwards a little bit but they are not reacting very well they are not going to
03:11:15.800 follow uh the command of donald trump because there's a lot of anxiety about the the question
03:11:22.280 of the strait of hormuz there's a lot of anxiety not just about iran but about escalation in ukraine
03:11:29.640 about other oil markets being disrupted there's a great deal of anxiety about that
03:11:35.640 and as a consequence food and fuel price inflation up are not only around the world but also in the
03:11:42.360 united states and i will say it's interesting to watch people like tucker guys
03:11:49.880 guys, it's about to get worse. I paused, I paused right before, but what name do you
03:12:00.040 think he's about to say? Yeah, yeah, yeah, guys, so this is the part, this is the part
03:12:06.980 where I'm just like, what in the Allahu Akbar jihad is happening? Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, guys,
03:12:13.940 he's about to go on a whole like tucker carlson oh yeah oh yeah no no no no so when i when i told
03:12:21.680 you when i told you that it gets worse i was not exaggerating right everything that you think you
03:12:27.040 listened to right now if you thought that was bad no no no that was just like that was the pre-show
03:12:34.580 because now we're getting to tucker carlson oh my gosh markets being disrupted there's a great
03:12:42.520 deal of anxiety about that and as a consequence food and fuel price inflation up are not only
03:12:49.580 around the world but also in the united states and i will say it's interesting to watch people
03:12:54.960 like tucker carlson who recently gathered together a group of wait let's go back just look at my face
03:13:01.980 look at my face here okay look like look at my face um on the right side of the screen like as
03:13:08.220 as he says tucker carlson you can just see like the very like small minute shift in my expression
03:13:14.780 and my face is just like what like what the f basically markets being disrupted
03:13:22.220 there's a great deal of anxiety about that and as a consequence food and fuel price inflation up
03:13:29.100 are not only around the world but also in the united states and i will say it's interesting
03:13:34.300 to watch people like tucker carlson who recently gathered together a group of former mega uh hardcore
03:13:42.620 megaites um to to open a front against donald trump and one of the the lines of that front is
03:13:49.980 the question of israel and the question of iran it's very interesting to see the biography the
03:13:55.580 recent biography of tucker carlson who moved from being quite a loyal trump man uh to really carving
03:14:03.740 out the most idiosyncratic political space which has included a departure from from his previous
03:14:11.660 uh you know alignment with israel very interesting development and i think mr carlson uh who by the
03:14:19.340 way was a student at a college where i used to teach many years ago um tucker carlson yeah that
03:14:25.660 that's not that's not bragging rights buddy like oh tucker carlson was a student of the college i
03:14:30.700 i used to teach that's not bragging rights that's literally like okay so so you're both part of the
03:14:36.760 same garbage ideology did you catch that like this guy like this this guy this communist is like
03:14:43.540 bragging bragging about this right as if like this is like some sort of
03:14:48.760 i don't know man of israel and the question of iran it's very interesting to see the biography
03:14:57.060 the recent biography of Tucker Carlson, who moved from being quite a loyal Trump man
03:15:03.640 to really carving out the most idiosyncratic political space,
03:15:09.120 which has included a departure from his previous alignment with Israel.
03:15:16.000 Very interesting development.
03:15:18.020 And I think Mr. Carlson, who, by the way, was a student at a college
03:15:23.340 where I used to teach many years ago.
03:15:25.320 um hey what what's guys pop quiz time pop quiz time what's what would i respond to him or what
03:15:32.860 would an iranian respond to this person you know who's bragging about this garbage thing that
03:15:39.940 happened right how would we sarcastically say like good job i pop quiz i i shared this phrase
03:15:51.700 with you earlier in the live stream no not be shut up it starts with an h remember
03:16:03.060 hand dad oh you know what the this is this is close this is close
03:16:08.500 honad there you go honad honad caddy there there you go laszlo got it honad caddy right so
03:16:15.380 when this guy he's like he's like oh i i taught at the college where tucker carlson went to school
03:16:23.860 it's like right like oh wow like you accomplished something amazing it's like a sarcastic way of
03:16:29.380 saying like oh good for you right there you go so the most idiosyncratic political space
03:16:38.580 which has included a departure from from his previous uh you know alignment with israel
03:16:45.380 very interesting development and i think mr carlson uh who by the way was a student at a
03:16:52.340 college where i used to teach many years ago tucker carlson i think uh has has carved this
03:16:58.980 space out because he recognizes that a section of the of the base of mr trump is just not interested
03:17:07.540 in any of this stuff because they are getting hit so hard at home around the kitchen table and so on
03:17:14.820 that's why i started with with bill clinton's line it's the economy stupid you can have as many um
03:17:22.060 you know large macro questions as you want you can debate morality all you want it's of no interest
03:17:29.840 if you can't um you know balance the checkbook at the end of the month and and oil prices are just
03:17:36.580 not going to come down you know as i said i'm sitting in london today and watching andy burnham's
03:17:42.900 new government mr burnham is struggling with this as well you know his talk about rethinking
03:17:48.900 north sea oil by the way not so easy to drill up there uh not so easy to open those those wells up
03:17:55.220 but still just the suggestion of it has sparked the the first sign of of discontent with with
03:18:02.580 mr burnham a novel feeling in the labour party uh but that kind of thing you know where where
03:18:09.060 you're seeing the inflation lead the political debate in these countries rather than the
03:18:15.860 consequences of a war far away i think that's something people should not lose focus of you
03:18:22.100 know you've got to focus sometimes on the pocketbook tobias i see you something taking your head yeah
03:18:29.220 i i think the the tucker carlson is a very interesting character he's been very brave
03:18:34.020 uh having been such do you see my face i'm just like what the now now like the the british dude
03:18:41.700 he's like i think tucker carlson is very interesting he's been very brave and i'm just
03:18:46.020 like i'm literally like just holding back i'm just like what what what what right so do you
03:18:56.900 guys don't understand like this this was a very interesting panel because you know i i've never
03:19:04.080 been on a panel before where you know i have to represent not only the iranian people uh but of
03:19:11.440 course uh american and israeli people all at once and honestly it was a lot of fun it was a lot of
03:19:18.920 fun um if al arabia invited me for like another one of these panels i'll totally go back just
03:19:25.780 because it was just really fun to just like you know just I don't know like just they were freaking
03:19:34.360 out they don't know what to do they couldn't counter any of my arguments right so they were
03:19:38.780 just attacking me they were like oh she doesn't know what she's talking about right but uh yeah
03:19:43.960 like this was so because whenever I've been on like other panels there's always been at least
03:19:49.420 like an American or um like an Israeli right so but but this is like the first time where I've had
03:19:56.220 to represent um or like defend all three countries and all three interests and uh it was a lot of fun
03:20:03.100 I really enjoyed it right so I was super proud super proud and you know for all the Americans
03:20:09.160 who are watching for all the Israelis who are watching um I hope I did a good job I hope I did
03:20:15.300 you guys proud um like i i actually i wasn't expecting to go there and have to defend um
03:20:23.640 america and israel but you know more than happy to but i just i hope i did you guys proud i hope
03:20:29.800 i didn't say anything inappropriate but i just i tried my best to to represent uh patriots from
03:20:36.360 from both countries so a a supporter of uh donald trump i think people should not lose focus of
03:20:43.980 You know, you've got to focus sometimes on the pocketbook.
03:20:48.500 Tobias, I see you shaking your head.
03:20:50.920 Yeah.
03:20:51.520 I think Tucker Carlson is a very interesting character.
03:20:55.320 He's been very brave, having been such a supporter of Donald Trump,
03:20:59.960 to now come out and speak his mind and say,
03:21:02.400 listen, I don't agree where things are going.
03:21:04.820 It shows you the sheer power that Donald Trump has managed to accumulate.
03:21:09.020 i mean we've had news here in the uk of donald trump's uh recent veterans uh golf tournament
03:21:15.740 where apparently he won and now reports are coming out about he cheated he knocked the ball in with
03:21:20.740 his hands and so forth it shows how people are almost scared of donald trump in america to
03:21:25.800 actually challenge challenge him but what you started off by saying is that the prices oil
03:21:31.640 prices the gas prices at the fuel pumps and so forth when the economy is now impacted people
03:21:37.320 are daring to say where are we going with all this where is trump taking uh america not just
03:21:43.800 in a more isolationist route there's an understandable um populist uh uh i think uh
03:21:49.960 rally to say let's look after america america first but when it comes with consequences not
03:21:55.080 just in falling out with allies and greenland is a good another great example of you know falling
03:21:59.560 out with with uh with Denmark and and Canada uh but also with um with Britain too too so he tried
03:22:08.140 to bait me he tried to bait me with the Canada comment because I'm Canadian but I didn't fall
03:22:13.500 for it I just I kept my mouth shut because um there's a reason that I didn't say anything
03:22:21.100 but let's be honest um you know like he he's bait like this this guy is blaming President
03:22:28.200 Trump for the fact that Mark Carney supports jihadis, right? Remember, Mark Carney went to a
03:22:34.440 Muslim Brotherhood event in Canada and said Muslim values are Canadian values, right? So now he's
03:22:41.960 trying to bait me. He's like, oh, look, America is alienating its allies like Canada, right? Because
03:22:48.520 he wanted to like bait me as a Canadian. I didn't take the bait, guys. I'm smarter than that. Don't
03:22:53.400 worry but i i have a good response to this but anyway that's what he's trying to do right
03:22:58.640 america first but when it comes with consequences not just falling out with allies and greenland is
03:23:04.860 another great example of you know falling out with uh with denmark and and canada uh but also
03:23:10.720 with um with britain too to to and the tariffs and so forth people are daring to question where
03:23:17.820 Donald Trump is taking America so the midterms themselves I think will be very telling indeed
03:23:24.340 and to see whether it checks his behavior or whether he will continue to dig in and say
03:23:30.060 actually I've got an advance as to where I want to go take America I've got friends that actually
03:23:34.980 applied to work on the Trump administration and they're on the foreign policy side of things
03:23:41.300 working for American think tanks and so forth and the first question they got asked when they went
03:23:46.140 into the to the rumors do you believe that the um that that election in 2020 was stolen and if
03:23:52.020 yeah good good that is an important question to ask because president trump literally just came
03:23:59.160 out with the statement showing how there was election fraud in 2020 you idiot right like like
03:24:06.820 what is this what is this you do do do like guys he's literally it's just like a word salad it's
03:24:14.780 just he's throwing up like a word salad of just random anti-Trump talking points and oh those
03:24:21.680 think tanks were those think tanks funded by USAID good I'm glad those think tanks have been
03:24:28.180 defunded right good I'm glad to dig in and say actually I've got an advance as to where I want
03:24:35.880 to go take America I've got friends that actually applied to work on the Trump administration and
03:24:42.400 they're on the foreign policy side of things working for american think tanks and so forth
03:24:47.440 and the first question they got asked when they went into the to the room is do you believe that
03:24:51.600 the um that that election in 2020 was stolen and if you don't answer yes it was stolen the interview
03:24:58.320 ends that's good good yes that's how it should be because guys as a former politician
03:25:07.920 Right. Like you hire people who support your political perspective. That's literally how politics works. That's literally how politics works. And then this guy, he's like, oh, if if people are opposed to President Trump, they can't work in his administration.
03:25:26.020 Gee, I wonder why. I wonder why. Because why would you want to have people getting top secret clearance working in departments when they're against the current administration? Like, you idiot. Of course. Of course. Like, if you're not aligned with the current administration, why would they hire you?
03:25:49.240 like right like do you see my face here my face is literally like like my like my expression is
03:25:56.940 like you idiot you idiot anyways it's just it's just literally utter garbage and nonsense right
03:26:04.720 they're on the foreign policy side of things working for american think tanks and so forth
03:26:09.480 and the first question they got asked when they went into the to the room is do you believe that
03:26:14.000 the um that that election in 2020 was stolen and if you don't answer yes it was stolen the interview
03:26:20.480 ends that's i'm afraid where political thinking is in the republican party at the moment that's
03:26:26.760 very very dangerous indeed and it means that you're then left with either apologists absolutely
03:26:31.940 who are going to sycophantically support donald trump or you get people on the opposite side of
03:26:36.860 the aisle rather than people or as you say actually i support a strong american president
03:26:41.000 He's dared to step forward and deal with Iran.
03:26:44.020 But I question the strategy, and I would like him to do something differently.
03:26:48.420 OK, Goldie, we're almost out of time, so I'm going to give us a rapid-fire round in just a moment.
03:26:54.020 But just your brief response to that, Goldie, do you think we are seeing Republicans question, as Tobias said, where President Trump is taking America?
03:27:03.400 Or do you think that they're rallying around his Iran strategy?
03:27:08.260 I see Republicans rallying around President Trump's America strategy when it comes to the Islamic regime.
03:27:16.920 And we're seeing that in the primaries.
03:27:18.620 So, I mean, you know, anyone who quotes Tucker Carlson immediately loses my respect.
03:27:23.420 I mean, everyone knows where Tucker Carlson's loyalties lie.
03:27:27.180 Just follow the money.
03:27:29.280 All right.
03:27:30.120 Before we wrap up, a very rapid fire round to all of you.
03:27:34.700 If I can get a brief response.
03:27:37.100 Vijay?
03:27:37.580 did you guys like my response did you guys like my response right boom
03:27:44.240 i was just like anyone who supports tucker carlson loses my respect just follow the money
03:27:55.980 you know what i i i wasn't as clear as i wanted to be because guys like i'm literally holding
03:28:03.380 back at this point, right? Like I'm just like, right? Like I'm just, I'm holding back because
03:28:10.100 I've been listening to like so much garbage jihadi nonsense. Yeah. Like no pushups. You're
03:28:18.160 right. Like I literally stuttered trying not to swear. Like that's how insane, that's how insane
03:28:25.880 it was right now. Right. But guys, I made it work. I made it work. Right. Listen to this again.
03:28:31.360 I'm going to give us a rapid fire round in just a moment. But just your brief response
03:28:36.880 to that, Goldie, do you think we are seeing Republicans question, as Tobias said,
03:28:42.620 where President Trump is taking America? Or do you think that they're rallying around
03:28:47.540 his Iran strategy? I see Republicans rallying around President Trump's America strategy when
03:28:56.900 it comes to the Islamic regime. And we're seeing that in the primaries. So I mean,
03:29:00.600 And, you know, anyone who quotes Tucker Carlson immediately loses my respect.
03:29:05.060 I mean, everyone knows where Tucker Carlson's loyalties lie.
03:29:08.840 Just follow the money.
03:29:10.900 All right.
03:29:11.740 Before we wrap up, a very rapid fire round to all of you.
03:29:16.400 If I can get a brief response, Vijay, to you first, will this conflict define President
03:29:23.200 Trump's legacy?
03:29:24.040 so guys the rapid rire the the rapid fire round is really interesting because the other two
03:29:32.440 they go on and on and on right like the rapid fire round guys i i've been in debates i've
03:29:39.420 literally done political debates uh i've done like live debates on like um you know national
03:29:45.660 news tv as a politician right like when it comes to debating no one can out debate me
03:29:51.860 No one can out debate me. And I know like when to when to, you know, speak and give like a long
03:30:00.640 explanation. I also know when to be concise. I also know when to like be punchy and when to go
03:30:06.980 on and on, when to interrupt, like all this stuff. Right. So, guys, what you're seeing here is
03:30:12.260 basically like when this interview started and then DJ, like the communist, when he attacked me
03:30:18.420 right away I was like all right okay so we're going in politician debate mode and then as you
03:30:24.140 see guys you know the the rest is history but let's let's get to the rapid fire round because
03:30:30.020 this is the this is a really funny part that immediately loses my respect I mean everyone
03:30:34.660 knows where Tucker Carlson's loyalties lie just follow the money all right before we uh wrap up
03:30:42.460 very rapid fire round to all of you um if i can get a brief response uh vj to you first
03:30:49.260 will this conflict define president trump's legacy
03:30:56.780 oh we've lost you it's no it's it's hard to say if this will define his legacy because he's so
03:31:02.860 mercurial we have no idea what he'll do in the remaining two years so i think as of now this
03:31:10.380 is of course a very important part of what he's been up to and and i think if the united states
03:31:16.860 as i believe is going to retreat from this war it'll certainly be uh the defining feature of
03:31:23.580 the the presidency unless he does something absolutely crazy in the next two years which
03:31:28.460 is very likely let's wait and see goldie will this conflict define his presidency
03:31:34.140 uh yes i believe so and i think it's going to define his presidency in a very positive way
03:31:37.900 tobias round us out uh it will but it isn't just that it's wider foreign policy as well
03:31:45.580 you know he's now befriended president putin uh he's gone against the rest of europe in trying
03:31:50.480 to support uh ukraine and when you link all these things together he's taken america as i've
03:31:55.440 alluded as i mentioned into a very very different place and i think that's the legacy uh which
03:32:00.540 means it won't click back to where it was before but that's the legacy as to where he's taken
03:32:05.620 america america and europe are no longer on the same page our adversaries are starting to rally
03:32:10.500 together iran china and russia and our world is splintering and it's very dangerous to have
03:32:16.100 an american president not wishing or wanting to uphold the international rules-based order the
03:32:21.380 very order that america helped create back in 1945-46 we will leave it there it's been wonderful
03:32:28.820 to have such a diverse range of opinions tobias elwood former british middle east minister thank
03:32:33.780 you for being here goldie gamari political analyst and host of the goldie show on youtube
03:32:38.980 thanks so much for your contribution and vj prashad historian and executive director of
03:32:44.340 tri-continental institute for social research thank you so much for your thoughts it's great
03:32:49.140 to have you all on counterpoints wow guys
03:32:55.860 what did you think of that
03:33:02.220 do you see like the kind of like jihadi nonsense i deal with on a daily basis and uh yeah that was
03:33:12.900 guys i have a feeling that i'm not going to be re-invited back to counterpoint
03:33:16.860 if ever because of the fact that i was like openly defending israel right on saudi arabian
03:33:25.560 tv but you know it was worth it it was worth it right guys go big or go home but but there you
03:33:34.280 go right but i you know at the end at the end um my short answer right so this is part of the
03:33:41.420 debate tactics and the strategy of like debating or whatever the case may be there's a time you
03:33:47.900 know for a long explanation and then there's a time for something short and punchy and i guarantee
03:33:53.120 that ever, you know, anyone who's going to watch like the final, you know, few minutes with the
03:33:58.300 rapid round, like the, the, the communist guy, like he just went on and on and on. Right. And
03:34:03.920 then the British guy, he just went on and on and on and on. But my answer was very short and very
03:34:11.240 punchy. It was just like, yes, this is going to be his legacy and it's going to be in a positive
03:34:15.620 of way. Right? That's it. That's it. Nothing else needs to be said. So Americans, Americans,
03:34:23.300 I hope I did you guys proud, even though I'm not an American citizen. I hope I did you guys proud.
03:34:28.220 Israelis, I hope I did you guys proud by defending you. Because when the communist person, he was
03:34:34.500 like, this is a clown show. She has the flag of Israel in her background. And I'm like, yeah,
03:34:39.780 I do. I support Israel. What's wrong with Israel? Right? I just called him out on that on
03:34:44.940 Saudi Arabian TV. There you go. Okay, guys. So I hope that this has been an informative
03:34:54.060 episode of Iran Revolution Live. I didn't speak too much about internal Iran news,
03:35:04.600 but I thought it was really important to share this interview on this panel that I had
03:35:14.420 because it really exposes a lot of the propaganda that we Iranians are dealing with, right?
03:35:23.700 I mean, as you can see, none of the other two panelists ever spoke about the fact
03:35:31.100 that the Iranian people are being murdered by the Islamic regime, right?
03:35:37.240 No one ever spoke about the January massacre.
03:35:39.800 no one ever spoke about the fact that um Iranians are being hanged right like all they did is the
03:35:46.700 entire time they're just literally blaming America and Israel and I'm I'm sitting there and I'm like
03:35:52.800 like what reality are we in right now right but um the reason I shared this with all of you is
03:36:01.520 because this now um I hope this gives you a better understanding of the fight that we Iranians have
03:36:09.500 had, right? Like we're literally fighting this globalist, communist, woke, progressive leftist
03:36:16.980 narrative, right? Where all of these people, right? They're attacking the United States and Israel,
03:36:22.740 but they're not attacking the Islamic regime. Guys, not once, not once in that entire interview
03:36:29.560 did either of the other two panelists condemn the Islamic regime for murdering and oppressing the
03:36:38.320 Iranian people, not once and shame on them, shame on them. Right. And they didn't like the fact
03:36:46.000 that I was there unapologetically calling them out and unapologetically supporting, um, the United
03:36:54.200 States and Israel. Right. But there you go. This is the fight. This is the fight. Um, but anyways,
03:37:00.060 guys, um, I want to thank all of you for tuning in. Okay. Let me go to your question. Sorry. I
03:37:04.540 will go to your super chats guys. I forgot. I will go to super chats. Um, and I will be back,
03:37:09.720 um, in a couple of hours, uh, for tonight's evening edition of the Goldie show for my
03:37:16.580 geopolitical analysis. I will probably include maybe some, you know, breaking Iran news in there
03:37:22.960 as well, just because, um, this, uh, this, it took quite a while to go over that, uh,
03:37:31.140 that panel discussion, didn't it? But I mean, for good reason, right? Oh, Rafsanjani shark
03:37:37.500 reminder. Okay. Pushups. I have not forgotten. So let me pull this up. Okay. So this is Rafsanjani.
03:37:49.160 okay so um a little bit of a backstory so last night um my sister uh she has a youtube channel
03:38:05.420 called the gamma ray report um so let me just pull that up for you guys okay really quickly
03:38:11.720 So this is the Gamma Ray Report. Her channel is purely science, right? Like she, you know,
03:38:19.520 she doesn't get involved publicly in politics or anything like that. But she has a YouTube channel
03:38:24.980 because she is an aerospace engineering professional. She's very passionate about
03:38:29.560 science. Many of you have also, you know, seen her and spoken with her in my live stream chats.
03:38:38.500 You know, she's fantastic. Anyway, so she had a live stream last night all about sharks, and it was very, very cool. And, you know, so guys, every Sunday evening, I and many people on my channel, we take an optional class field trip to the Gamma Ray Report to learn about science, because, you know, it's important to get a break, right?
03:39:04.940 Like if we're always focusing on doom and gloom and like all the Durkhas and the Jihad and stuff like that, like it gets to you.
03:39:14.320 Right. So I really enjoy, you know, on Sunday evenings, I go to my sister's channel and, you know, I'm like a guest host there.
03:39:24.320 And we basically talk about science. So last night it was all about sharks and shark week and pushups asked about Rafsanjani.
03:39:34.940 So, um, and pushups basically asked like, why is Rafsan Jani called a shark? So this is Rafsan
03:39:43.180 Jani. Um, he is a Durka and I don't, I don't know if he's on the boom, boom bingo sheet guys,
03:39:49.760 because he was, um, he was Aladeen by the Islamic regime quite a while ago. Let me see if I can
03:39:57.240 find him on the boom, boom bingo sheet. I don't think he's there because the boom, boom bingo
03:40:01.680 sheet is more updated. But yeah, no, Rafsanjani's not on the Boom Boom Bingo sheet because he was
03:40:10.700 Aladeen, right? A few years ago. So let me pull up who Rafsanjani is, okay? So Rafsanjani
03:40:24.760 supposedly supposedly allegedly um uh drowned in a swimming pool okay he drowned in a swimming pool
03:40:35.780 the same way that um you know like people in russia who oppose putin um they just randomly
03:40:45.420 fall out of buildings right so you know how you know people who oppose putin just
03:40:50.880 randomly fall out a window? Yeah, so in Iran, you know, people will randomly
03:41:01.340 drown in a swimming pool or, you know, randomly be involved in a gas leak or something, right?
03:41:10.100 So what's really funny about Rafsanjani, you know, drowning in a swimming pool,
03:41:15.960 By the way, this is actually hilarious because he is a Muslim Nazi and we are allowed to laugh at Muslim Nazis and terrorists, right?
03:41:23.880 Because this is, again, someone who is responsible for the murder of, you know, tens of thousands of Iranians.
03:41:31.600 So, you know, the only good Durka is a dead Durka.
03:41:35.120 So what's really funny about this is that Rafsanjani, I guess, he wasn't able to grow a proper beard, right?
03:41:44.260 So you can see the guy's literally a Durka, but he's not able to grow a beard.
03:41:51.400 Ew, like I can't even believe I'm zooming up on his gross face.
03:41:54.780 Look at that, right?
03:41:56.400 So he can't grow a proper beard, even though he's a Durka.
03:42:01.400 And, you know, keep in mind, all of the turban heads, they grow beards, right?
03:42:07.340 So if we go to our boom boom bingo sheet, right?
03:42:09.980 Literally, everyone who has a turban, everyone who has a turban has a beard, right?
03:42:15.240 So, you know, beard, beard, right?
03:42:18.340 Like, so, and then, of course, you know, there you go.
03:42:22.240 So, right, like, so beard, beard, right?
03:42:25.940 You go to the Assembly of Experts, right?
03:42:27.820 They all have beards and whatever.
03:42:30.500 Let's find some other turban heads.
03:42:31.940 This one's dead.
03:42:32.780 He had a beard, right?
03:42:34.200 So, guys, literally, I mean, just look at the boom boom bingo sheet.
03:42:38.240 look at the boom boom bingo sheet anyone who has anyone who's like a turban head they have a beard
03:42:44.280 okay they got the okay it's it's literally like a thing it's a thing so here here even this one
03:42:51.420 right like this one look that one that one who's dead right so every single turban head right and
03:43:00.460 you guys can go and you guys can check the boom boom bingo sheet yourself but every single turban
03:43:06.060 head has a beard, right? They have the facial hair and the beard. Rafsanjani, look at his face.
03:43:12.900 Ew, I'm zooming in. Guys, don't blame me for the torture. You can blame push-ups for this. This
03:43:17.980 is push-ups' fault. Anyway, so Rafsanjani, he was not able to grow a beard, right? He tried.
03:43:30.240 he tried. This is as much as he could do, okay? So, you know, for Rafsanjani, this is as much
03:43:37.320 as he could grow for his, like, Durka jihadi beard. And so, Iranians, we have a nickname
03:43:46.740 for, you know, those, like, Durkas, those Durka mullahs who can't grow a beard. We call them
03:43:56.560 kuseh. And kuseh is the Iranian word for shark. Okay, so there you go, guys, another Iranian word.
03:44:08.040 Okay. So kuseh, kuseh means shark. So because Rafsanjani couldn't grow a beard, and guys,
03:44:19.460 by the way, this nickname, this didn't even necessarily come from like the Iranian people
03:44:25.240 who hate the Islamic regime. This nickname came from the other Durkas, right? The other Durkas
03:44:33.160 were making fun of him because he couldn't grow a beard. So they were calling him Kuse. And Kuse
03:44:41.140 means shark, okay? So, yeah, it's kuse, right? Kuse. Anyways, so his nickname was the shark
03:44:56.320 because he couldn't grow facial hair. And, you know, the other durkas were like, ha ha,
03:45:02.300 you can't grow facial hair. So, you know, you're like a shark, right? Because you know how sharks
03:45:09.120 have very smooth skin. Although, although guys, we learned last night on Rose's channel that
03:45:16.380 sharks only have smooth skin one way. If you pet a shark the wrong way, your hand will bleed,
03:45:24.060 right? Because sharks have something called denticles. But yeah, so, so guys, the other
03:45:30.240 Durkas, they, they bullied him like schoolgirls because again, like all these people, they're
03:45:35.800 very low IQ, right? They're very low IQ, you know, low culture, low ideology, whatever the case might
03:45:42.580 be. So there you go, pushups. That's the story behind why Iranians call Rafsanjani the shark,
03:45:50.780 it's because he couldn't grow a Durka beard, and then the other Durkas were making fun of him.
03:45:55.860 And then what's even funnier about the whole situation is that, you know, again, he supposedly
03:46:03.360 drowned in a swimming pool accident, right? Again, take that for what it's worth. But
03:46:11.160 yeah, he supposedly drowned, drowned in a swimming pool. We all know the Islamic regime
03:46:18.460 murdered him. And the reason that Khamenei, so remember, this is Khamenei Khabar-Margish,
03:46:24.640 so this dead Durka murdered Rafsanjani and then, you know, claimed it was a swimming accident
03:46:32.080 because Rafsanjani posed a threat to his authority, right?
03:46:36.880 So remember, this is like the game of Durka,
03:46:40.060 but this is like historical game of Durka, right?
03:46:42.500 Guys, the game of Durka has been going on
03:46:44.840 for a very long time.
03:46:46.560 The Durkas have been infighting
03:46:48.220 and murdering each other for quite a while.
03:46:51.620 You guys just haven't really heard about it
03:46:53.360 because it didn't really make it to mainstream media.
03:46:55.820 But yeah, so guys, this is like game of Durka lore.
03:46:58.380 So, you know, think of like, oh, you know what?
03:47:01.280 this is like the perfect example. So you know how there's like the Game of Thrones, right? And the
03:47:06.700 Game of Thrones is like the modern day, you know, Game of Thrones. But then you also have House of
03:47:13.660 the Dragon, right? So there's the Game of Thrones TV series, which is like the modern day Game of
03:47:19.720 Thrones. But then you have House of the Dragon, which is like the historical Game of Thrones,
03:47:26.860 So this is pretty much that. So right now we have the game of Durka, but now that you guys have learned about Rafsanjani, that's essentially like, you know, house of the Durka, right?
03:47:41.560 So Rafsanjani and the fact that Rafsanjani was drowned in a swimming pool, that's part of, like, the ancient historic lore, which would be considered, like, House of the Durka, okay?
03:47:55.260 So that's, like, the difference.
03:47:56.980 Game of Thrones versus House of the Dragon.
03:47:59.780 Game of Durka versus House of the Durka.
03:48:02.400 So that's some historic lore for you guys.
03:48:07.200 Push-ups.
03:48:07.940 What is the best place to email you about this, guys?
03:48:10.160 so guys if you want to get a hold of me um it's info at gigamari.com my email address it's available
03:48:17.280 on all my accounts on my youtube channel on instagram x anywhere you go like you can find it
03:48:23.600 info at gigamari.com so yeah you can definitely email me there and i have my team who goes through
03:48:29.360 all of my emails um hezi says they embrace the non-life actually let me just fix my
03:48:40.160 um there we go uh hezi says they embrace the non-life and its carrier agent carbon monoxide
03:48:47.460 yeah so hezi's referring to um the the shahid or the shahid drone video right like the mexican
03:48:54.720 mariachi drone video which is incredibly weird um but no you're i i agree like they're they're
03:49:02.540 literally like just blasting drones in like a closed airspace and they don't they're not even
03:49:09.180 concern about carbon monoxide poisoning. It's wild. 40 winks. Precision strikes are exhausted
03:49:15.060 and incapable of destroying. What? Of destroying IRGC governance. So carpet bombing is the
03:49:26.280 solution. Trump is neither Putin nor Zelensky. Pahlavi wouldn't kill Khomeini and sought
03:49:32.900 sought alternatives? Is Trump less moral? I'm not, I'm not sure what you're referring to,
03:49:39.120 40 winks. Um, like, I actually disagree with everything you're saying here. Um, like,
03:49:48.980 what, what do you actually think? Okay, wait, what do you actually think carpet bombing means?
03:49:55.920 Because I don't think, I don't think you know what carpet bombing means.
03:50:00.800 like if do you think that carpet bombing means that the united states is going to
03:50:09.640 like bomb cities because that's not what carpet bombing means do you guys are
03:50:14.720 okay so okay let me guys give you um a little quick uh lesson in what um carpet bombing means
03:50:26.660 OK, because I don't know, Forty Winks, if you've just been confused by like leftist narrative or something.
03:50:38.300 I mean, that was a bit of a strange comment. I'm not quite sure what's going on.
03:50:41.840 But guys, like carpet bombing is a legitimate military strategy.
03:50:47.440 OK, like carpet bombing is not inherently a bad thing.
03:50:51.320 carpet bombing is a military tactic that involves dropping a massive number of unguided bombs across
03:50:58.280 a wide area to completely destroy everything within it okay so also known as saturation or
03:51:04.740 blanket bombing the name comes from the idea that explosions over the ground just like a carpet
03:51:10.600 covers a floor so i mean guys if there is an area that is completely occupied by the irgc
03:51:19.920 why wouldn't why wouldn't the united states just destroy everything that's there okay no one no
03:51:28.200 one has ever talked about carpet bombing um residential or civilian areas that that that's
03:51:35.460 not a thing right but you have to be very careful because remember even in that um interview that i
03:51:43.220 had today, right? Like that, that communist panelist, he was like, I'm very afraid that
03:51:49.340 America is going to nuke Tehran. And I'm just sitting there and I'm like, really, really? So
03:51:54.720 this is one of this is one of the like tactics of the woke left and the communists and the Antifas,
03:52:01.600 right? They will constantly promote this narrative of, oh, America's gonna nuke Tehran.
03:52:08.940 when did that when did president trump ever say that they're going to nuke tehran right or when
03:52:16.080 did president trump ever say that they're going to carpet bomb civilian areas carpet bomb is a
03:52:21.780 legitimate military strategy right that works in certain instances and certain situations
03:52:29.020 so i personally right like if if the united states or israel if they're going after the irgc and
03:52:37.220 there's like a specific area that is only for the IRGC. And there are no civilians there. Yes,
03:52:45.160 I want the United States and Israel to completely destroy that entire IRGC base. Go for it,
03:52:54.120 destroy them all. Right? There's nothing wrong with that. So I mean, your comment was,
03:53:01.260 I don't know. I don't understand it. President Trump is certainly not less moral. I mean,
03:53:09.080 America is one of the most moral armies, right? I would say only Israel is comparable to the
03:53:17.420 United States when it comes to military strategy. And keep in mind, the number of civilian casualties
03:53:24.500 so far has been much, much less than the 54,000 innocent, unarmed Iranians that were murdered
03:53:34.480 by the Islamic regime back on January 8 and 9. So, I mean, it's really important to understand
03:53:44.820 words and what they mean, right? Because it's kind of like how the dirkas and the jihadis,
03:53:56.020 and, you know, anyone who's Jewish or from Israel, you guys will understand this example,
03:54:00.780 right? It's kind of like how the Palestinians are like, oh, Israel is genociding us,
03:54:05.460 Israel's genociding us, right? Like, they've taken the word genocide, right? And remember,
03:54:11.180 The word genocide was created specifically because of what Hitler did to the Jewish people in World War II, right?
03:54:21.220 So the word genocide was created to describe what Hitler did to the Jewish people because at that point, there was no word to properly describe what was going on, okay?
03:54:41.940 but now the palestinians have taken this word genocide and they've totally like uh changed the
03:54:50.880 definition changed the meaning and literally so after after hamas right engaged in their terrorist
03:54:58.420 genocidal attack on israel on october 7 you know israel responded and rightly so and then everyone's
03:55:05.560 like oh israel's genociding the palestinians really is that why their population has increased
03:55:10.440 is that why they're like you know anyways i don't want to get into that but uh you know another
03:55:14.440 example of that so um yeah like there you go like if if the united states is going to destroy an
03:55:24.040 entire area that belongs to the irgc yeah go for it 100 why not why not if that's what it takes
03:55:32.520 remember remember the islamic regime is murdering us iranians
03:55:36.120 so keep that in mind but do not do not make the mistake of falling for the leftist narrative or
03:55:46.660 the leftist media right whenever someone uses a word and you're not quite sure what that word
03:55:54.000 means go check it out on google right use google chat gpt whatever and not just one source use
03:56:01.980 various sources so that you have multiple perspectives because the communists and the
03:56:08.800 woke left and the jihadis they're banking on you not bothering to look into the definition and
03:56:16.460 meaning of words right it's like the whole thing with um the geneva conventions when it comes to
03:56:22.140 uh you know islamic terrorists using civilians as human shields right like they're they're always
03:56:28.060 like oh no united states is bombing schools well that's because the school was being used
03:56:33.740 as a military base and according to the geneva conventions right residential areas lose their
03:56:40.860 civilian status when they're being used for military purposes right so there's always a
03:56:47.100 logic to everything that's going on here so i just wanted to to point that out um stephen reilly says
03:56:54.380 you can't fix stupid. No, you can't. Guys, I was literally, today, I was surrounded by Tweedledee
03:56:59.760 and Tweedledum, right? And I was just sitting there like, what am I dealing with right now?
03:57:04.320 But it was wild. John Diamond, you were double teamed and pulled a knockout. You did it. Yeah,
03:57:11.420 guys, it's kind of like WWF, right? Or I guess it's called WWE now. But yeah, it was like one
03:57:18.260 of those like WWF, like a cage match where it was like me on one side, and there was like a tag team
03:57:24.360 on the other side. And they were like hitting me from both sides. And I was just like, No,
03:57:28.840 I'm not having any of this. And I was just like, anyways, I dealt with them. Listen,
03:57:33.400 they had nothing to say. That's why they were just they were attacking me personally, instead
03:57:38.280 of attacking my arguments. Like, if you recall, never once, not a single time did either of them
03:57:46.680 actually um not a single time did either of them actually like refute what i was saying
03:57:56.280 or counter what i'm saying with facts because they had nothing they had nothing
03:58:03.800 um romeo says this is only the second time if given u.n promethean action keep it up thank
03:58:09.880 you appreciate that uh red dragon videos love the passion thank you so much uh skies on high they
03:58:17.560 are both bumbling idiots yeah they are oh my gosh oh christian evan christensen you good you think
03:58:23.960 the regime end by artish cool it it may very well it may very well uh be that way we'll have to wait
03:58:31.320 and see. But yeah, I'm feeling very positive about the future. So guys, I just wanted to
03:58:43.480 thank all of you for joining me for today's, you know, edition of Iran Revolution Live.
03:58:52.680 Let me just get my my outro video ready. Sorry, guys. Remember, at the beginning,
03:58:58.120 remember i was having uh technical difficulties at the beginning of today's live stream so i had to
03:59:04.440 like go and come back um but i wanted to thank you all for tuning in i hope you enjoyed going
03:59:10.920 through that absolutely insane it was like it was like the saudi arabian version of like pierce
03:59:17.160 morgan um those of you who didn't catch it from the beginning go and catch it from the beginning
03:59:23.000 because, uh, absolutely wild. And that's why I decided to wear my Iran hat and flag today,
03:59:33.040 because I was like, guys, I just, I just need a little bit of extra love. Right. Um, and, uh,
03:59:39.620 just be a proud Patriot. So there you go, guys. Um, I'm going to take a little bit of a break,
03:59:45.540 get a bit of an update on the news, get something to eat, rest my voice for a little bit. Cause
03:59:51.640 I've been speaking for four hours straight, actually longer than that, because I also had
03:59:56.580 the panel before that and then a Newsmax interview before that. So I do have to rest my voice a
04:00:07.400 little bit, but I will be back later tonight with tonight's evening edition of The Goldie Show. So
04:00:14.440 make sure that you have your notifications turned on, like and subscribe, and I will see all of you
04:00:20.960 guys very soon. As always, I'm Israel Khai, God bless America, Javid Shah, and Paiyanda
04:00:28.840 Iran. I'll see all of you guys later tonight.
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04:03:20.960 No, no, no.
04:03:24.840 Wait, guys. Do you guys want to know? Oh my gosh, it was a hot mic. It was a hot mic.
04:03:42.780 Guys, I don't even care. Let me tell you. Let me tell you. I'm trying to figure out a response.
04:03:49.300 No, no, no. So listen, I'm more than happy to share this. Guys, this is so funny. So I got guys, I got a message from the producer, right? Or like from the from the producer of that show. And they basically said, thank you for organizing Goldie for joining.
04:04:13.120 will go out in full tomorrow around this time.
04:04:17.160 And I'll share a link as soon as I have it.
04:04:20.340 One note, I feel bad.
04:04:23.660 It turned slightly two versus one against Goldie,
04:04:27.540 but that wasn't my intention.
04:04:30.200 I thought Tobias would have played a more neutral role
04:04:33.640 given he is by no means pro-Iran,
04:04:37.000 but he's also not pro-Trump.
04:04:39.780 So my apologies to Goldie for that.
04:04:43.120 hope it won't put her off joining in future she was excellent this is from the um the the producers
04:04:49.760 at al arabi al arabia guys this is why i was also like let's not let's not uh um you know go after
04:04:59.680 the the news network right and then the producer says my colleagues on the arabic channel also
04:05:07.120 asked for your email as they'd like to organize a one-to-one interview with Goldie. Are you happy
04:05:14.180 with me to share with them? Thanks once again. So anyways, I was doing like a voice note, which is
04:05:20.740 why it was like a hot mic. So guys, maybe you can give me some advice on how to respond because I'm
04:05:25.840 trying to figure out the best way to respond. And basically like, so I was responding back to,
04:05:30.980 um, um, you know, my, the person on my team, uh, who helps me out with like my emails and like
04:05:37.620 books, all my media stuff. So then, so I basically was like, yeah, I was like using my, my mic
04:05:44.520 thing or whatever, which is where like the voice notes, which is what you guys caught.
04:05:49.420 And I'm trying to figure out like how to say, like, you should tell them that it was definitely
04:05:54.400 an unfair fight but not because it was two versus one but because I was embarrassing both of them
04:06:01.780 and putting them in their place and next time if they want to do a panel like this
04:06:06.440 the other side should bring more backup so they can handle dealing with uh an Iranian woman uh
04:06:14.800 and you know former politician who knows her stuff so that was basically the the hot mic so
04:06:22.140 there you go guys there I'm spilling the tea anyway so so they want me on their Arabic channel
04:06:27.540 but like a one for one but uh yeah no there you go so um I don't I don't feel honestly like I feel
04:06:37.360 bad for the producers right the producers are like oh no we called these upset no guys I was
04:06:42.340 not upset like I felt bad for the other side because it was like it was like two versus one
04:06:48.480 but honestly I felt like like I felt like an adult going into like a fight with like
04:06:54.040 kindergartners right like that's what it felt like I felt like I was like I can't even like
04:06:59.840 go hard on these people because that's like it's an unfair fight right like I could have one fist
04:07:06.240 behind my back and I could be blindfolded and I would still like beat up the two of them if this
04:07:13.300 was like a world you know WWE fight or something so there you go that's that's the hot mic drama
04:07:19.320 anyway for those of you who stuck around that's that's the hot mic so should I do it should I
04:07:27.040 agree I mean I kind of feel bad for the producers because the producers yeah I guess they thought
04:07:32.880 the second guy would be more neutral but as you can tell it was literally like a two-on-one
04:07:37.140 but I actually felt bad for the other two I felt like I was beating them up too much that's why I
04:07:42.700 actually had to hold back. All right. Okay. There you go. All right, guys. So that's basically the
04:07:53.100 hot mic situation there, right? Where I'm just like, I mean, all right. Okay. I'll think about
04:08:03.340 it. I'll think about it. And yeah, this is what I mean. Like, we don't go after the producers.
04:08:09.280 we don't go after the the news anchor like she was fantastic but yeah guys it it definitely was
04:08:15.900 not a fair fight because those two idiots they didn't know they didn't know who they were up
04:08:23.360 against or who they were dealing with right so i i agree it it wasn't a fair fight but not for me
04:08:30.300 it was just it was it was an unfair fight for them because they needed more backup they needed
04:08:35.480 more backup if they didn't have it anyways guys there you go uh i'll see all of you guys later
04:08:41.160 tonight for um the goldie show until then we'll continue with the song and now you have the tea
04:08:48.700 for for the hot mic situation yeah because i'm literally just checking my my messages now
04:08:54.640 anyways see you guys soon
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