00:13:42.420They're not going to go down without a fight.
00:13:44.720And right now they're going scorched earth.
00:13:46.860We're seeing images coming out of people with, like, you know,
00:13:51.540military-grade machine guns who are just roaming around in the backs of vans
00:13:56.580and they're just indiscriminately shooting into crowds of people, you know, of course, unarmed
00:14:02.080people. So it's all at war, except one side is armed, the terrorists are armed, and the Iranian0.60
00:14:08.700people are unarmed. Wow. Well, I want to bring in our Bureau Chief, Chris Mitchell, for some
00:14:14.480additional context. Chris has been serving here in our Jerusalem Bureau for 25 years, so he's seen a
00:14:19.700lot of Iran-Israel relationship and kind of the evolution of Iran. Chris, in your opinion, since
00:14:26.160the early 2000s when you came. What's different now about what we're seeing coming out of Iran?
00:14:31.120Well, Goldie and Joshua, I think one of the main things right now is President Trump's in office.
00:14:36.360President Obama famously or infamously didn't do much at all during the Green Revolution.
00:14:42.420Biden during the Mashar Amini protest. So I think that is one of the main differences. And then I
00:14:49.540guess the scale. And you could confirm this, Goldie. All 31 provinces are involved. Millions0.60
00:14:55.540of Iranians in the streets. And as you were saying, it seems like the desperation is so dire
00:15:03.260and they want to make sure this is the time they can overthrow this regime. And Goldie,
00:15:10.300I wanted to ask you, what can be the consequences of this? If the regime does fall,
00:15:17.520what would be the consequences, first of all, to the people of Iran?
00:15:21.220freedom freedom we would finally have freedom after after 47 years we would finally be1.00
00:15:29.060free from these savage islamic terrorists who have been occupying us for the last 47 years we1.00
00:15:36.640can finally have a normal country uh based on the principles of democracy and secularism like like1.00
00:15:43.440we were prior to 1979 um you know the other thing as well is that um we can finally stop you know
00:15:51.260being a sponsor of terror or being occupied by a sponsor of terrorism right because prior to 1979
00:15:57.500um iran and israel were allies and so we're actually looking forward to to uh rekindling
00:16:03.880that allyship that's actually one of our top priorities in the transitional plan for when
00:16:09.100the regime falls, is to reestablish and normalize relationships with Israel.
00:16:14.000Goldie, could you double click on that? I know you were born in Iran.
00:16:17.520What are some of the misconceptions people have about Iran before 1979 or before the revolution?
00:16:25.980So, you know, some of the misconceptions people have is that, you know, it was an authoritarian
00:16:31.300dictatorship and like people weren't free and, you know, they like to say bad things about
00:16:37.780our beloved Shah of Iran. But the reality is those are all lies that have been propagated by
00:16:45.380the Islamists and the communists in order to justify overthrowing Iran and taking over in0.60
00:16:52.2201979. Very similar to the propaganda and lies that they put out about Israel. It's the exact0.80
00:16:59.340same thing, exact same thing. So the communists and Islamists like to paint themselves as the0.99
00:17:04.980freedom fighters meanwhile of course we know that these freedom fighters are in fact terrorists so
00:17:10.580um i would say that you know that's a big common misconception another common misconception is
00:17:15.780that iranians are are muslim we're not we're not um prior to some 1979 perhaps um you know some
00:17:23.060people just kind of identified as secular muslim but uh but but the reality is that today less than
00:17:28.50020 percent of iranians identify as as muslim um and this this revolution it's not just about
00:17:36.100overthrowing the islamic dictatorship it's about getting rid of islam um and get taking you know0.96
00:17:41.460getting up throwing it out of our country basically because because we're iranian we're not arab1.00
00:17:47.460we have a completely different culture completely different civilization um just like the the jewish
00:17:52.260civilization where we're indigenous to to the land of iran and um you know the history of jews
00:17:58.020in Iranians goes back thousands of years before Islam was invented. Yeah, Goldie, one of the
00:18:03.100things that seems about this revolution is that the people are rallying around Reza Pahlavi. You
00:18:09.200know, it seems like in the past, some of the opposition groups have been disorganized or
00:18:13.700not unified. Is this marks this revolution that people are rallying around Pahlavi to be come
00:18:23.040back and at least be a temporary leader in a transition. Yes, absolutely. So I think that's
00:18:30.180one of the defining features and defining factors of this revolution is that everyone has rallied
00:18:36.740around His Royal Highness Rizal Pahlavi, the crown prince of Iran. He is the only one that we trust
00:18:42.280to transition Iran from a totalitarian Islamic dictatorship to a functioning secular democracy.
00:18:48.840And, you know, people in Iran are only chanting his name, Rizal Pahlavi.
00:18:53.540They're showing images of, you know, sorry, they're sharing photos where they're holding up images of his face on camera so that people outside can see who they're fighting for.
00:19:06.260And young people in Iran are saying, we are willing to risk our lives if it means we can return our king back to Iran.
00:19:13.520Mm-hmm. On a personal note, Goldie, if I may, how are you feeling watching what's coming out
00:19:21.760of your home country and what's being done right now, the abuse of your people? How are you feeling?
00:19:29.280I mean, it's difficult. It's difficult because we know how brutal the regime is and how brutal
00:19:39.700it has been um but Iranians were very brave we're very strong we have you know we're an
00:19:49.140ancient civilization that has survived for thousands of years and so as difficult as it is
00:19:55.500seeing the bravery of of Iranians and occupied Iran and how how they're just you know willing
00:20:02.720to give up everything for freedom um that that gives me energy but more than that more than that
00:20:10.080um we have received so much love and support from people around the world um people in in israel
00:20:18.960people in the united states people across europe um south america like everywhere everywhere that
00:20:25.760i can think of there are people who are tuning into my live stream sharing their love sharing
00:20:31.040their support rooting on for the iranian people um and and that that gives me a lot of hope and
00:20:37.200it's giving um all iranians hope because now we know that unlike previous times we're not alone
00:20:44.320anymore we're not alone the whole world is is behind us and the whole world is is cheering for
00:20:49.440us uh to you know as we overthrow one of the most evil um dictatorships to have ever been created
00:20:56.480yeah from your sources uh goldie what are you hearing about the uh the rise of christianity
00:21:02.160in uh in in inside iran even despite all the persecution by the regime
00:21:10.080well christianity is the number one um rising religion in in occupied iran
00:21:15.280zoroastrianism is second so yeah a lot of a lot of iranians are converting to uh christianity um0.95
00:21:23.680because we know we're just we're done with islam uh we don't think islam is is a good religion0.98
00:21:29.200we're just you know we're just sick of it um and from from my understanding from a lot of0.99
00:21:34.720iranian christians who have you know converted from from islam to christianity what they tell
00:21:40.160me is that christianity you know christianity offers love peace and hope whereas islam is more
00:21:46.960about hatred and death so that's why many iranians are secretly converting to christianity although0.98
00:21:52.320They still have to identify as Muslim because under Sharia law, apostasy is punishable by death.
00:21:57.800And many Christian converts have been jailed and executed for leaving Islam.
00:22:03.940Yeah. Of course, we sit here in Jerusalem, Goldie, so we're very curious about the relationship between the Jewish people and the Persian people.
00:22:11.660So why do you think the regime has tried so hard to erase the memory of Cyrus and the Persian people in terms of the relationship with the Jewish people?
00:22:20.020because the islamic regime is anti-iranian the islamic regime is an occupying force and they0.84
00:22:31.420have tried to erase our cultural identity they have tried to erase our our roots they have0.89
00:22:38.660basically tried to make us forget about about who we are as iranians i mean even even the flag of
00:22:46.580islamic republic uh it says aloha akbar which is arabic we're iranian we speak persian and yet
00:22:53.460you know the flag of the occupiers is in arabic writing so the reason that they've tried to uh
00:22:59.860erase our our identity erase you know the memory of the great is because that's another way for
00:23:05.140them to try and conquer us and that's why as iranians we have actually uh we're incredibly
00:23:10.340nationalistic. We have learned about our history even more. And we're not going to let them erase
00:23:17.180our identity because that's one of the ways that we're fighting back is by reclaiming our Iranian
00:23:22.380identity. Yeah. One of the stories that we've been covering here for the last couple of years, Goldie,
00:23:27.540is many banners that have been set up here inside and throughout Israel celebrating the women that
00:23:35.020have been protesting against the uh against the iranian regime uh human halili is the iranian
00:23:42.380american who's been doing that uh how would you uh ask christians around the world to be praying for
00:23:49.500the people of iran right now um you know pray for us pray for iranians but you know i would say as
00:23:58.140well maybe reach out to your elected government officials and ask them to stand with the iranian
00:24:04.540people ask them to um put out statements declaring that the islamic dictatorship is um is illegitimate
00:24:13.340and you know recognize that his royal highness king is a pad levy um he is the legitimate
00:24:19.660opposition leader i think that would that would go a long way to helping the iranian people
00:24:25.260what would you want president trump to be doing right now0.65
00:24:27.420going after the islamic dictatorship and and uh blowing them off the face of the earth1.00
00:24:37.500that's what i hope that president trump would be doing right now just completely destroy them0.98
00:24:43.180well that's a very specific directive i know president trump watches our broadcast so
00:24:47.580he he definitely heard that goldie thank you so much for joining us for sharing your heart
00:24:53.260and your knowledge about this situation and uh we will be keeping the people of iran in
00:24:58.300our prayers but thank you for joining us on jerusalem dateline thank you so much for having me
00:25:06.380woohoo great job thank you thank you oh wait kicked me out no there we go important update
00:25:18.060very important unless you sure unless you showed it already did you see the new post by lindsey
00:25:23.180graham no okay it might suggest that the attack is going to be happening with israel
00:25:31.260like israel is going to like look at this
00:25:36.060i'm traveling to me with do you want to read it okay lindsey graham just posted this like um
00:25:42.940just uh oh it's an hour ago saying i'm traveling to israel to meet with prime minister benjamin
00:25:50.540netanyahu and his team at this crucial time in the history of the middle east
00:25:56.540the goal is to build build on the historic opportunities created by president trump's
00:26:02.540unprecedented leadership to stand up to evil and to support the people who are sacrificing for
00:26:09.500freedom, meaning Iranians. The Trump-Netanyahu alliance has thus far been one of the strongest
00:26:17.180partnerships in the history of the United States-Israel leadership, and I am hopeful it will
00:26:23.500pay dividends in the near future. We live in a time of great consequence with the Middle East1.00
00:26:31.820on the verge of previously unimaginable change, standing together and following through
00:26:37.660true on our commitments only makes us stronger i think what do you think at first uh you you go
00:26:45.500first and i'll tell you what i think this is yeah i mean i think i think this is a positive sign i
00:26:50.180think there's a reason that senator lindsey graham is traveling to israel that wouldn't happen
00:26:54.740randomly so obviously there's a reason for that yeah i think that what's going on yeah
00:27:01.120yeah i i think that possibly possibly okay not certain uh the decision has been made to
01:13:50.980We're going to copy what the Jews did to the Nazis after the fall of Nazi Germany.0.99
01:13:56.280We're going to find every single one of you, wherever you, whatever hole you're hiding in, we're going to find you and we're going to make you pay for your crimes.1.00
01:14:05.900Every single one of you. None of you are safe. None of you, none of you will ever be safe.0.99
01:14:12.220And don't think that just because we're not showing all of the images of the horrific massacres that we don't know what's going on.
01:14:20.500we know exactly what's going on but the only reason we're not playing those images and videos
01:14:26.500right now is because we're focusing on you know winning the revolution and there will be more
01:14:33.680than enough time to to mourn to mourn our our victims and to mourn our heroes after we win but
01:14:41.160right now our focus is on winning so that's that's why we're not we're not showing in any of those
01:14:47.560videos because there's just no point there's no point it's not going to help us in any way shape
01:14:52.140or form and people in iran have said to us to to not show those videos and to focus instead
01:14:57.800on their bravery which is what we're doing instead
01:15:00.880yes all right two scenes starting soon let's go to that all right i'll switch over to this
01:15:12.880and um how did your discussion group go what were you talking about today
01:15:21.380oh people were just having questions regarding you know military issues like stuff that it was
01:15:28.760like nerdy i'm talking about uh you know trump strategy like what like israel's involvement
01:15:35.720where is trump going to strike the reasons for the timing like getting into like geopolitical
01:15:42.380military stuff it was very interesting so can you actually like talk about that a little bit more
01:15:48.960so for people who who because i know like for those of you who've been watching our live stream
01:15:53.620for a while now armin takes a break middle of the day does his discussion group so
01:15:57.600now that we're waiting we have a few minutes well one minute waiting for tuesday did you want to
01:16:01.940just like explain that a little bit like what it's what it's about how it works you know what
01:16:06.580people can expect when they join your discussion group oh wow thank you goldie i appreciate you
01:16:12.060giving me the opportunity right so yeah so we have a discussion group that we get into like more
01:16:17.260detailed stuff where people could uh where people and it's not just it's not just me talking
01:16:23.340everybody could open their mic and and you don't have to open your camera if you don't want to you
01:16:27.580could speak with an audio only or you could just come and just listen and people ask questions and
01:16:32.620i respond and other people responds we have like a security expert there and military like a security
01:16:38.460expert there we have like geopolitical experts there's like we have also ordinary people there
01:16:43.660that are just there to ask questions but we also have some high level people there that are giving
01:16:48.860us like some really higher level sophisticated answers which is it's a lot of fun and it's a lot
01:16:54.460of you know i think a lot of people i appreciate that it's friendly um it's very engaging and
01:17:00.620sometimes it gets like goofy and crazy and sometimes it gets really high level analysis
01:17:06.140and nerdy so yeah and we uh i mean we had it before this revolution started and we were basically
01:17:12.380talking american politics european politics we're talking immigration we talked israel
01:17:17.420we talked iran we talked american politics everything basically wait it's starting starting
01:17:23.500but now we're just talking can i post the link i'll post the link yeah yeah post the link
01:17:28.380welcome back to 2c tv this is your global news channel amaya to see and the top of the leadership
01:17:38.320of the islamic revolutionary guard corps is now split as we are getting some updates from inside
01:17:44.220the country about how everything is falling apart for ali khamenei's inner circle the we now also
01:17:51.400have confirmation from the white house directly speaking to the wall street journal that the
01:17:57.160united states military have been put on standby which is not really a surprise and they are ready
01:18:03.740for president trump to give the green light of course that doesn't mean it's going to happen now
01:18:07.760or tonight and uss ebrahim lincoln is now obviously on its way it's going to take a few
01:18:13.980days to get there but things could kick off because they believe that in case the islamic
01:18:18.180republic decides to do a preemptive attack which i personally think that's still unlikely that they
01:18:23.180have to be on standby there's a lot happening the biggest part of this is we're going to give you
01:18:27.820guys the details of uh what is going on from the american side but we also have some videos from
01:18:32.940inside the country iran to show you but the split at the top and some inside information about what
01:18:41.340are the the top figures of the irgc doing right now now let's go to the latest updates uh right
01:18:48.460this second the uss abraham lincoln is still on its way towards iran and the middle east
01:18:54.940of course this is a major escalation and this has been used for the major operations of course in
01:19:00.780the 90s and 2000s when it came to iraq afghanistan having said that the reasoning of speculations
01:19:08.780that we discussed earlier about what happened last night now of course if you want to watch
01:19:14.380that live stream we did that previously just go watch the whole thing and what i explained but
01:19:19.260there's a lot of people who are obviously trying to pretend they know what's going on nobody knows
01:19:23.180what's actually going on but one of the things that they said was that israel also asked the us
01:19:28.860to delay the attack because they were not fully ready in case the islamic republic tries to do
01:19:35.500something stupid against israel since then jerusalem have not denied those claims they0.97
01:19:41.820They haven't confirmed it, but they haven't denied it.0.99
01:19:44.860The Arabs, of course, have said that you can't use our airspace,
01:19:47.860which means, obviously, the USS Abraham Lincoln is the most important, crucial tool to be used.
01:19:53.300President Trump has also been told that he needed more troops
01:19:55.840because this is not going to be just about Ali Khamenei.
01:19:59.840This isn't really just about taking out the leadership or a couple of airstrikes.
01:20:04.100There has to be a full-on comprehensive attack if there is going to be.
01:20:08.920So, obviously, more resources are now being added.
01:20:11.820president trump as i said have now has now ordered the troops to be ready in case of the attack on
01:20:17.180iran and they are basically just waiting for the green light now president trump is unpredictable
01:20:24.140technically speaking something could happen tonight it's still unlikely because what is the
01:20:28.460point of waiting for ussf lincoln the the aircraft carrier to get there that's still going to take
01:20:33.980some time anyway but pentagon is on high alert we're going to show you the the evidence of the
01:20:39.020the pizza tracker that shows the everybody's busy right now nobody's going home at this point and
01:20:45.340we also have the satellite the latest satellite images of the aircraft carrier that is on its way
01:20:52.300to the middle east towards iran meanwhile the rhetoric from the u.s government remains
01:20:58.220the same and consistent saying uh obviously president trump never gave any promise on
01:21:05.260when the attack will happen the only thing that we had was uh by tuesday which was two days ago
01:21:13.260he was going to be presented by with a range of options and targets and that actually happened
01:21:19.020on monday as they also confirmed but last night everybody got excited because obviously a lot of
01:21:24.700things things could be happening airspace is closing and then nothing happened at the end
01:21:29.020and then people somehow blamed it on trump saying you promised he didn't promise he never said when
01:21:33.900or how and it's still not saying anything in terms of when or how but more troops are being added
01:21:42.420now the reality of the situation is the rhetoric is still the same from the white house directly
01:21:47.940caroline levitt we're going to go to her the u.s envoy to the united nations mike waltz
01:21:53.560who came out earlier at the united nations security council
01:21:58.960in saying that uh president trump is a man of action not endless talk like what we see at the
01:22:08.920un president trump there is a man of action not endless talk like we see at the united nations
01:22:19.160he has made it clear all options are on the table to stop the slaughter
01:22:25.500so the interesting thing about the narrative from the white house is they're still primarily
01:22:35.640focusing on they can't publicly say anything about regime change president trump has posted
01:22:41.420on social media a couple of times but the official rhetoric is stopping the slaughter now
01:22:47.260we know that's nonsense because it's not really about the slaughter it is about the direct threat0.59
01:22:52.380from the islamic republic this is a bigger game than what's actually happening on the streets of0.97
01:22:56.180iran and when you look at the imminent threat to the middle east and to the world they all agree0.98
01:23:03.840that the irg is a threat but of course the persian gulf arab countries are freaking out about what0.97
01:23:09.380could happen to them now they don't like it they don't like any instability so obviously as usual
01:23:16.200they've been lobbying against it that's not really a surprise that's not the first time we had the
01:23:19.980same thing in June but more videos are coming from Iran people are not giving
01:23:24.540up despite the martial law that has now been imposed in most parts of the
01:23:28.960country let's go to mashup parts of mashup is obviously under full
01:23:33.360restrictions but the other parts people are still coming out now
01:23:49.980The IRGC as well are not helping their own case because the senior IRGC general and member of the Islamic Republic's expediency council, Mohsen Rezaei, said that we will cut off Trump's hand and finger.
01:24:07.660It's a very specific thread, by the way. Why? Why hand and finger? But the reason that they believe they can do this is because they are playing a game of chicken.
01:24:20.620and you would think that this is the sign of strength or even bluffing for example no this
01:24:27.580is also a distraction while they themselves a lot of the people at the top of the irgc
01:24:32.860have already packed up their bags and we have the evidence which i'm going to show you as well and
01:24:37.420we have obviously shown you some of the evidence over the last couple of weeks especially when it
01:24:41.180comes to the families of these guys but as i said going to yeah i just wanted to point out like how0.92
01:24:48.300how insane these people are like you know they're they're the islamic republic you know this this0.94
01:24:54.460brutal savage dictatorship they're threatening the president of the united states we're gonna1.00
01:24:59.980cut off your hand and finger like it's just they're insane they're insane to the white house0.99
01:25:10.380caroline levitt continues to say that the president trump is not done with the islamic republic yet0.96
01:25:16.620let's go and the president understands today that 800 executions that were scheduled and supposed
01:25:24.220to take place yesterday were halted and so the president and his team are closely monitoring
01:25:30.320this situation and all options remain on the table for the president so this is the key point
01:25:35.820because tomorrow is friday the islamic republic have said yesterday because yesterday on wednesday
01:25:43.600they were supposed to do the public public executions they postponed it because they were
01:25:48.460terrified they did say the next date will be friday the 16th of january tomorrow if they decide this
01:25:58.020is a lose-lose situation for the islamic republic as i've been repeating you saying the islamic
01:26:02.320republic of iran will fall it doesn't matter how it happened or how long it takes firstly it's only
01:26:08.540been 19 days this should technically take a year it's a big country with a big dictatorial
01:26:13.460regime other regions are taking much longer than that it's not going to end in 19 days
01:26:18.120not going to happen but some people get excited oh let's finish it in two days but that's not how
01:26:23.360it works but it's a lose-lose situation because if they do carry out the public executions tomorrow
01:26:31.620as they've now said well you just accelerated the plan for the united states if they don't do it
01:26:38.840that is also a sign of weakness from their side it's a lose-lose regardless of what they decide
01:26:46.420to do tomorrow and it's mostly because of a lot of people inside the regime who are not following
01:26:52.580orders who are not actually who don't even have the energy we showed you guys the uh at least one
01:26:58.280of the um officers who was saying that we just can't we are desperate we don't even we don't
01:27:03.220have money and they are telling us to go and basically kill our own people civilians now
01:27:12.640people are still out as i said despite martial law not enough forces no guys that's okay that's
01:27:19.620a crazy theory that's a crazy theory um the islamic republic did not say that to president
01:27:25.660trump because of what i said like that's that's funny listen no no no the reason i said what i0.75
01:27:32.280said is because the islamic dictatorship they're the ones who say threats like that all the time0.52
01:27:38.040so i basically took i basically took one of the threats that they have been making to iranians
01:27:44.280and you know uh like other people and i just took the threat and i just threw it back in his face so
01:27:49.720i basically i basically gave him a taste of his own medicine they didn't do it because of me they
01:27:53.960do this all the time and if if the irgc is watching this stream if the irgc is watching this stream
01:28:01.000i'm gonna say there you go just in case they're watching all right let's continue
01:28:13.320to cover all cities and all towns which is a fascinating thing because when when you are
01:28:18.520supposed to be imposing um emergency protocols and martial law technically you need to have
01:28:25.000enough personnel to shut down all cities and all towns but that's not happening key areas of course
01:28:31.560in tehran mashad and other places have been completely restricted yeah but not all parts
01:50:44.820For ordinary people out there, it is about timing. For ordinary people who have family members and friends and relatives in Iran who are getting injured, they're getting killed, they're getting arrested.
01:50:56.360Yes, for them, it's about timing. But when it comes to geopolitics, it's not about timing.
01:51:02.020When it comes to geopolitics, it's about doing it correctly. And the Americans have not withdrawn their support.
01:51:08.820they haven't said we've changed our mind they haven't said uh we will not take action or
01:51:14.840whatever they're just not saying anything they're only repeating that you know we're still behind0.99
01:51:18.860the iranian people but there's no way that we'll know so we have idiots again glenn murray1.00
01:51:25.480let's call out all the idiots saying this is all fake news nothing will happen we have not received1.00
01:51:30.620this is the thing if you don't understand english go learn english if you do understand english you1.00
01:51:37.120might have other problems we have not reported that the u.s is attacking the islamic republic
01:51:44.800i've not said one sending in fact from the beginning i said the exact opposite we're not
01:51:50.080reporting that the u.s is attacking the islamic republic we are saying what the white house have
01:51:54.720told us and the wall street journal that the united states military have been placed on standby
01:52:00.240they've been told to be prepared for the attack nobody's saying the attack is happening it could
01:52:08.080happen it might not happen read the title listen to what i'm saying and do your own research it's
01:52:15.360not that difficult now someone says that i've been hearing this so i checked him out and now
01:52:25.780here i am subscribed thank you everyone for the support out there we have a carter saying uh well
01:52:33.220there goes the islamic republic other than that don't take things for granted help the iranian
01:52:38.180people regain their freedom and vinny says don't play chess with trump you won't win there is no
01:52:44.900way that these guys are going to come out victorious regardless of what happens how it
01:52:48.660happens or when this happens that it's gone it's over do we know what the models cost their things
01:52:55.860about all of this does trump's actions to hold the u.s attack at the request of saudi qatar and
01:53:03.380oman feel like bush seniors 91 iraq uh no because uh that hasn't been confirmed that we already
01:53:11.780explained the previous live stream there are like four five different scenarios uh and speculations
01:53:18.100one was the arab's group i think that's pretty much it because i was going to the super chats
01:53:23.860there so right um yeah go do whatever you want can i make three points yeah yeah go for it
01:53:34.020okay okay so first of all what nahir was pointing out to the reason why um this is reside this is a
01:53:40.260a former IRGC commander, and he did certain things that Khamenei didn't like, so that's
01:53:48.020why he's not an IRGC commander anymore, but he's still very influential.
01:53:52.160The reason, the more detailed version of what he said is that Trump said that he's going0.88
01:53:59.800to use, his hand is on the trigger, and that's why we will cut his hand, we will cut his
01:54:07.100finger the finger that is on the trigger that's what we're gonna cut so that's what he was saying
01:54:12.280which is something in iran would look at his face oh my god look at this guy so this is an
01:54:16.800irgc commander who's threatening uh trump with cutting of hands um but the reason we call in
01:54:24.480iran we call this rajas khuni which means like just basically barking it's like barking at the
01:54:30.400guy working at something that you're not able to change so that one I also want to mention that
01:54:37.740what when Goldie said regarding the news of the arrest of Rouhani and Zarif the strategy that
01:54:45.220that the when you mentioned that they might be arresting them because they're trying to
01:54:51.880basically whitewash them and make them seem like anti-regime so that maybe they could
02:59:00.400You saw it last night on the show here. What exactly happened? It felt like there was an attack on the Iranian regime imminent.
02:59:07.400The chatter was spectacular. All the indications looked like something was going on.0.99
02:59:11.360There was a lot of indications in the Middle East as well. And then nothing did happen.
02:59:15.540We're not sure exactly what happened. And to be honest, everything that we're seeing and reading these last couple of days could all be some kind of a psyop or disinformation designed to psych out the Iranians in some way or another,
02:59:26.060including what Trump has been saying publicly, including what he said yesterday, and media
02:59:29.580stories as well. Stories like this, Wall Street Journal reporting that Trump was advised a large
02:59:33.440scale strike against Iran would not guarantee a regime collapse. And as of now, is monitoring how
02:59:38.620Tehran handles all these protests before deciding on the scope of a potential attack. Now that
02:59:44.420coming to you, or we could be on the way right now to drop a bomb in 45 minutes. We don't really
02:59:50.220know. Some reports also saying Netanyahu had asked Trump to postpone plans for a military attack,
02:59:56.360indicating that maybe he needed a little bit more time to prepare for the retaliation,
02:59:59.520which would likely be aimed at his country. We're not really sure exactly what happened.
03:00:04.340We're trying to figure it out. Goldie Gamari is a human rights activist. Waleed is a Newsmax
03:00:08.720foreign policy analyst. Good to have you both here. Waleed, Trump said, don't kill protesters.
03:00:13.260They killed thousands. And then in the Oval Office yesterday, something that I think was
03:00:17.980kind of a ruse, which he seemed shockingly gullible, thinking that, oh, it seems like
03:00:22.400Iran is going to stop killing these people and that everything's going to be OK, which
03:00:26.140I thought, I don't really I don't really know that that's an indication of what he's
03:27:00.420Well, hang on, hang on. It might well suit Israel's interests, but that doesn't mean it doesn't also suit America's interests or indeed the rest of the world's interests.0.51
03:27:10.480Right. So, Piers, then we get to the issue of, yes, but what is America doing and what should America do?
03:27:17.200So if you want to accomplish the thing that we all want, which is Iran to be free, the worst possible thing you could do is bomb them.0.83
03:27:25.800Because if you bomb them, like all countries, they will rally around the flag.
03:27:29.780If you think there is no one who supports the regime in Iran, you're also wrong about that.0.76
03:27:34.080I think they're a minority, but they're the minority with the guns, et cetera.0.97
03:27:38.820And so at this point, the idea that, oh, don't worry, we'll just bomb the Iranians,1.00
03:27:44.460we'll kill a whole bunch of their civilians, and then we'll be greeted as liberators.0.99
03:27:48.580You know, Mike Huckabee talked about two kicks of the mule, except he got the wrong mule.0.99
03:27:53.420So we got kicked in Iraq in the same exact way.
03:27:56.940neocons like Mike Huckabee coming out there and going,
03:28:00.400oh, this is going to be easy, we're going to liberate the Iraqis,0.91
03:28:03.340and the Iraqis are going to love us for it, etc.0.94
03:28:05.400I don't need to get kicked by that mule twice.0.98
03:28:08.240I guarantee you this will end in disaster if Israel forces us to get involved.
03:28:13.440If you care about the Iranian people, we should not bomb them.
03:30:42.240This is Iranians trying to rectify, and they are rectifying, 47-year mistake that was made.0.87
03:30:52.420And what Iranians are saying is that we are going out and we are not going to stop fighting until we not only overthrow the Islamic dictatorship, but we return our king.0.89
03:31:02.800because there is only one person that we Iranians trust0.57
03:31:07.380to transition us from a dictatorship to a democracy,
03:33:15.660What do you think is the overview here for Donald Trump?
03:33:21.520Well, I think this is a case of opportunism, right?
03:33:24.000Look, I was just in the region. I was in Abu Dhabi about a month ago, which obviously is a home to quite a quite a large Iranian diaspora.
03:33:33.820And this is before these protests got the attention.
03:33:38.100And I came away from there in my discussions and meetings with various Iranian journalists and experts.
03:33:44.360The optimism that the regime is going to fall was was high then.
03:33:48.300And I had another colleague who's been who went in country over the last six months. And look, there's a there's not drinking water in Tehran. Right. Like this, what you're seeing, the level of desperation with the people, I think, is at a level that we haven't been able to fully understand as frankly as outsiders because of the of the media repression and how little we actually are seeing what's happening in country.
03:34:12.520But when you talk to Iranians that have either been in country or are communicating, you do get this sense.
03:34:19.000So this is coming. And I think this is a question. What does Donald Trump want to do?1.00
03:34:23.700This is a bit of opportunism. I don't think he wants to get involved.
03:34:29.200Like I think pre-protests, he was probably willing to negotiate with the regime in some form or another.
03:34:36.940Now I think he sees where the wind is blowing. And again, if you talk to enough folks in the Iranian diaspora, you can feel that optimism that this regime's days are numbered.
03:34:48.740But we've got to remember, just like Assad in Syria, we knew his days were numbered, but are they hundreds of days, all right, or was it going to be 10 or 20 days?
03:34:58.840And it's possible this is still, this regime will fall, but it may not fall until this time next year at this point.
03:53:58.660there you go so but but but but but that yeah and it's it's in the it's literally the middle
03:54:22.500of winter it's the middle of winter how is that guy like in a helicopter not in like a winter
03:54:28.380code or something right to the top towards the top sending this and he's like oh this is like
03:54:36.060current footage all the way to imam hussein square the bodies never went there the bodies
03:54:42.060began the funeral procession began at the university of tehran so the screen 100 of the
03:54:47.980general sunimani uh funeral and his companions was not towards imam hussein and here where are
03:54:56.300the trucks where's the funeral procession because they were it was not just him there were a number
03:55:02.940of people who were murdered don't pretend no one can pretend that the rallies yesterday which
03:55:11.100which took place across iran in mashhat in tabris all been debunked this woman this this woman if0.57
03:55:23.420you next i won't come again on your show because every time you're dishonest so here he says i'm
03:55:29.340not going to come again on your show so i respond here i'm like you're never going to come again on
03:55:34.140this show because we're going to capture you we're going to put you in jail for your crimes
03:55:37.740you will be able to come again on the show because when iran is free we're going to get
03:55:42.460no no to be fair to be fair to be fair let me explain let me explain goldie let me explain
03:55:50.820people on your hands right now goldie i will come i will come back to goldie and the panel
03:55:55.020in a moment i'll go back to one i will go back to one professor i will go back to one-on-one with
03:56:00.840you now she wanted to directly challenge that footage she's done so you have responded that
03:56:06.500is perfectly legitimate journalism from where i'm seeing no that's not that's not acceptable
03:56:11.160pierce in any case the very just yes just hours ago the bb but you know you know what's actually
03:56:18.360messed up is that um pierce morgan is the only person who actually challenged him because
03:56:25.260he has been going around to various media outlets around the world and he's been showing the same
03:56:33.320footage but no one's no one's had an opportunity to challenge him on it right so that's why he had
03:56:40.280that smug smile on pierce morgan's show because he thought that he could get away with it as well
03:56:46.320but he has gone on so many news channels around the world he's shown the same footage and none
03:56:53.020of the journalists none of the reporters have actually challenged him because it's always been
03:56:58.480like a one-on-one right so you know what pierce morgan love him or hate him i have a lot of respect
03:57:05.720for him he's one of the heroes he's one of the heroes of the iranian revolution because he
03:57:09.980actually gave me an opportunity to call out this this nazi terrorist on behalf of millions of
03:57:17.020iranians right so kudos to pierce morgan and and his producers and his team for that
03:57:22.860The BBC was showing this, the footage of the protests across Iran against the rioters yesterday and talking about an uprising, implying dishonestly that these people on the streets who are protesting against the rioters are in fact supporters of the rioters.
03:57:45.980Well, the best way to clear this up is to allow journalists to do their job freely in Iran, turn the internet back on, let everybody work out for themselves what is really happening.0.57
03:58:06.040But when a regime shuts off the internet, what it's really doing is not trying to stop
03:58:11.600communication between protesters, it's trying to stop the truth about what it is doing in
03:58:17.020response being communicated to the world.
03:58:19.140And what it's doing is murdering thousands of Iranians who are protesting.0.99
03:58:25.780I actually, I played Secretary Scott Besson's statement earlier, but I'm happy to play it
04:21:07.440In security and foreign policy, Iran's nuclear military program will end.
04:21:16.480Support for terrorist groups will cease immediately.
04:21:21.120A free Iran will work with regional and global partners to confront terrorism, organized crime, drug trafficking, and extremist Islamism.0.97
04:21:32.660Iran will act as a friend and a stabilizing force in the region, and it will be a responsible
04:23:38.880It is a practical one, grounded in national interest, stability and cooperation.
04:23:47.100To achieve this, now is the time to stand with the Iranian people.
04:23:52.800The fall of the Islamic Republic and the establishment of a secular democratic government in Iran will not only restore dignity to my people, it will benefit the region and the world.
04:24:10.280A free Iran will be a force for peace, for prosperity, and for partnership.
04:24:15.800partnership um i found my newsmax interview so i know the audio wasn't working so um they just
04:24:25.640sent me my newsmax interview so here you go guys here you go and we do that tomorrow you need to
04:24:30.760sleep people but people wanted to hear my newsmax video interview so i'll play this but i'm gonna
04:24:38.520turn off the video camera so i'm gonna do the newsmax interview and then vapish and then that's
04:24:43.480it so there you go good night everyone and armin see you tomorrow all right see you everyone oh do
04:24:51.300you want to say oh i'm as well hi all right good night everyone see you tomorrow you saw last night
04:24:59.880on the show here what exactly happened uh it felt like there was an attack on the iranian regime
04:25:05.180imminent uh the the chatter was spectacular all the indications looked like something was going on
04:25:09.700There was a lot of indications in the Middle East as well, and then nothing did happen.
04:25:14.280We're not sure exactly what happened, and to be honest, everything that we're seeing and reading these last couple of days
04:25:19.180could all be some kind of psyop or disinformation designed to psych out the Iranians in some way or another,
04:25:24.880including what Trump has been saying publicly, including what he said yesterday, and media stories as well.
04:25:29.220Stories like this, Wall Street Journal reporting that Trump was advised a large-scale strike against Iran
04:25:33.380would not guarantee a regime collapse, and as of now, is monitoring how Tehran handles all these protests
04:25:39.500before deciding on the scope of a potential attack.
04:25:42.900Now, that could be the story, or we could be on the way right now to drop a bomb in 45 minutes.
04:26:39.140If he decides, and you just mentioned that if Netanyahu may have asked him, if these are the reasons to be better prepared for what the Islamic regime is going to respond with, fine.0.56
04:26:48.400But I think the president is under the pressure of two camps.0.91
04:26:51.300One camp that is telling him we should not attack because we cannot control the results.
04:26:55.580We should not attack the regime because maybe some of them are saying maybe all Iranians are going to unite against us as if the Jews in concentration camps will unite with the Nazis against the allies.
04:27:07.220A lot of confusion there in that camp.
04:27:09.320The other camp is saying, basically, this is an opportunity, not just for the Iranian people to be helped and 12,000 were killed.
04:27:16.960There is no way this regime is going to continue and manage this country.
04:27:21.100That's a big dilemma in Washington, D.C.
04:27:23.260So if hesitation is about what to do to respond to them, fine.
04:27:28.120But if the hesitation is about the principle, I don't think the president will go with this.