00:00:00.000Who are Iranians? What do they say? What do they think? What are they capable of?0.99
00:00:09.160Why revolution? Who do you believe was behind it? The CIA, the Russians, the Marxists? I've heard
00:00:15.340all kinds of theories. I really believe that if the revolution had not happened, Iran should be0.99
00:00:20.480by now South Korea of the Middle East. Not the North Korea. Instead of becoming the North Korea.0.84
00:00:24.840The new Iran. What does that look like? There is a positive note to it. America might say,0.97
00:00:29.660we want to leave them alone. They won't leave you alone. It has to be declawed. If not now,
00:00:34.480when? How many more generations have to be sacrificed?
00:00:38.040Your Highness Crown Prince of Iran, welcome to PragerU. It is a great honor to have you here.
00:00:45.000I'm very glad to be here today and talk to you and be on your program. Thank you for inviting me.
00:00:50.120Well, this is going to be a fascinating conversation and I have many questions for you,
00:00:54.620but I actually want to start by doing something that I typically don't do at the beginning of
00:00:59.520an interview, and that is to thank you. I will surely thank you at the end, but I feel like
00:01:05.800you deserve a thank you from many of my Iranian friends who I have here living in the United
00:01:12.660States who expressed to me that you have given them so much hope. Not only have you given them
00:01:20.340hope that things will get better in in iran in your country but you've also been the embodiment
00:01:27.380of what iranians are are really and for many americans living in the united states especially
00:01:34.260of my generation and younger our experience with iran has been terrorism and killing and death and
00:01:43.300terrible human rights abuses and you know the treatment of women and what we've heard has
00:01:49.140happen to young women like Masha Amini. And so when we hear about that regime in Iran and we
00:01:56.800associate all of that evil, it's been a blessing to us to know people like you and like the Iranians
00:02:05.380who do live here in the United States, who, in my opinion, are some of the most reasonable people
00:02:11.300I know. They're incredibly kind. They're incredibly warm. Best food ever. Almost all of them are
00:02:18.120successful entrepreneur, totally rational people. And I just have such a huge love for the Iranian
00:02:26.800people that reconciling the huge difference between the Iranians that I know and people
00:02:32.700like you versus the Iranians that I hear about in the Middle East, I have a great
00:02:41.040sense of gratitude to people like you who've really held up what Iranians are about. And so0.99
00:02:49.300I just want to start by just saying thank you. Thank you for everything you've already done.
00:02:54.880Well, I'm just doing my job and it's my duty to serve the best interests of my compatriots by
00:03:00.420at least being their voice to begin with and hopefully then some.
00:03:03.660And you have been. For people who know very little about Iran, the more you study Persia and the region, the more actually fascinating it becomes because that region has given birth to so many different societies, I guess, in some ways.
00:03:22.980Can you describe to us what has happened over, let's say, the last hundred years or so since your grandfather became the ruler and then your father and what happened with you and why did you end up in exile?
00:03:37.780Actually, when you look at the legacy, the way people now look upon what my grandfather
00:03:46.160and my father did as the architect of modern Iran, in fact, they call my family the Iran
00:03:52.200building family, demonstrates that the view was how we can bring Iran from the sort of
00:03:59.920underdeveloped country where most people were uneducated, illiterate to a country that in
00:04:06.480the 70s was thriving, had a strong economy, Iranians were educating themselves, were coming
00:04:13.120back to Iran to bring in whatever was necessary in terms of development and infrastructure.
00:04:18.520So I think it's really in the last 100 years, because my grandfather stepped into the scene
00:04:22.460towards the second quarter of the 20th century, 1926 more or less.
00:04:28.540He served first as commander of the army, he was prime minister, and then he was prompted
00:04:34.420into the scene as a result of the previous dynasty, sort of like shying away from carrying
00:04:40.640their responsibilities, and he was called upon to step in and sort of literally take
00:09:02.720I think many Iranians, especially those living in the United States, and for Americans who
00:09:07.560have interacted, example yourself, with Iranians by now should know the difference between
00:09:13.400what actual Iranians believe or think as opposed to what the regime is projecting as being
00:09:18.700something that is totally alien to us in terms of values, in terms of beliefs, in terms of
00:09:24.720principles. And that's where all the problems started and continues to exist.
00:09:29.720You describe Iran as this prosperous economic society, right? And the revolution happens.
00:09:36.840If people were happy in Iran, presumably they were doing well financially and things were growing. Why revolution? Who do you believe was behind it? Was it really from within? Or was it Carter? Was it the UK? Was it the fight over oil? Was it the Russians, the Marxists?
00:09:59.240I mean, I've heard all kinds of theories on who took Iran down and why.
00:10:04.980And I'm curious, what do you believe is the truth?
00:10:08.420Well, there were two major groups that were opposed to the way Iran was, the direction it had taken.
00:10:17.780Everything that I explained regarding women's rights and things that were happening, the clergy didn't look at that very favorably.
00:10:26.340And Khomeini, in fact, started everything when my father instigated the white revolution at the time that brought in all these elements.
00:10:34.100He was the first one to start speaking against it and build that sort of rejection by the Islamists or the fundamentalists there.0.69
00:10:41.060On the other hand, you had the Marxist forces who didn't like this rapprochement with the West in general.
00:10:47.180And, you know, in their sort of anti-imperialist, anti-Western rhetoric, sort of partnered with the Islamists.
00:10:54.880and that was the root cause that brought about that moment0.79
00:12:38.320I want to emphasize this point as strongly as I can, because I think from the point of view of
00:12:45.380Americans, when they look at the American Constitution, when they look at the fact that
00:12:48.940Thomas Jefferson was inspired by Cyrus the Great to build in those values of human rights and
00:12:54.060liberty into the American Bill of Rights and Constitution, there's something that has to do
00:12:59.120with the history of our country. And we are proud, as descendants of Cyrus, to be represented in
00:13:04.500that. But what can we do for ourselves? And how can we have the same system in our country?
00:13:10.940Because a lot of people say, well, you know, Iran was a Muslim country. How do we deal with
00:13:15.340these religious elements? Is this really what they are? Not. And in fact, Iran was perhaps one
00:13:21.580of the most secular countries in the region before the revolution. But we had to experience
00:13:29.480directly the consequences of a religious dictatorship. It's a little bit like the0.80
00:13:34.500Inquisition in Europe that led to Enlightenment. And now you're talking about an Islamic Inquisition0.93
00:13:40.260in Iran and what could happen post that, in terms of returning to our roots and a country where
00:13:46.060different religions live together side by side for centuries. Christians, Orastrians, Jews,
00:13:52.300Baha'is, Muslims. And we never had issues until this regime emerged. And that's a very important
00:13:57.800lesson that Iranists had to learn the hard way, but puts us in the best possible position to1.00
00:14:03.940navigate this challenge and land on solid grounds in the future once this regime is finally brought0.99
00:14:12.160down. So do you think that the people who voted for the revolution, were they duped? Is that what
00:14:18.840happened? Were they basically tricked? Was it that the Marxists and the Islamists came together and
00:14:25.600created this new version of politicized Islam that controlled the media and lied to people0.88
00:14:33.280and people didn't realize really what they're stepping into because it's almost like an oxymoron0.73
00:14:37.740to combine Marxism with religious Islam because Marxism is really not about religion. And so
00:14:43.920the marriage of those two seemed quite bizarre except for the purpose of political control and
00:14:51.580corruption and so were the iranians basically tricked uh was it planned that this would happen
00:14:59.340or is it just a terrible accident and and just in a very very unfortunate situation
00:15:07.740well you can imagine that in these four decades ever since i was plunged into the scene of iranian
00:15:14.860politics and opposition politics and what have you i had discussions with many iranians including
00:15:20.780many who were the most aggressive opponents of my father's regime belonging to the same
00:15:27.100category of people you just described. And in our conversation, they often said that,
00:15:32.940you know, we now realize what we didn't know then. And most of them admit that we made a mistake.
00:15:44.300But the truth is that it was such a frenzy. It was such a euphoria
00:15:48.780that you could not have a rational discussion.
00:15:53.720We had university professors swearing that they saw with their own eyes Khomeini's face in the moon.
00:16:02.000We're not talking about an uneducated person be subject to some propaganda or brainwashing.
00:16:08.040This is a university professor saying that.
00:16:11.120So when the intelligentsia or intellectuals fall into those trappings,
00:16:15.320they didn't even know what Khomeini really stood for.
00:16:18.780Nobody had really read his pamphlet, which if you read today, it was, I mean, this is just some badness behind it.
00:16:28.020And the whole process, which was extremely opaque, obscure, many started by saying Islamic Republic, you know, and that's it.
00:16:37.120And people were called to a referendum without even knowing what it's been proposed, voting in plain view with somebody with a Kalashnikov standing on a barrel.
00:16:45.440and you had to throw either a green or a red, you know, in plain view.
00:16:51.100So what I'm trying to say is that as it was evolving,
00:19:20.180So there's no more naivete that did exist in 1978, 79, at the time of the revolution.
00:19:26.060Do you think that any of the Iranians have any resentment towards the West? Are they blaming the CIA or, you know, or the UK? I mean, is there any of that type of resentment there?
00:19:41.300Look, let me give you a tacit example of the expectation that exists in Iran in terms
00:19:50.600of how can the free world come to our help.
00:19:56.680During the Green Movement, there were a lot of slogans, it was during the Obama administration.
00:20:04.140And you could see signs that people were holding in the English language to any camera covering
00:20:11.600clearly they were not practicing their linguistic skills they were trying to send you a message in
00:20:16.560fact they were chanting obama obama yaba una yabama which means either with them or with us
00:20:23.840pick your side um and throughout the years you saw that the messaging coming from iran
00:20:30.880at the time that there was no social media which makes it more accessible to see what people
00:20:35.440actually thing, was not covered by foreign media.
00:20:39.800So it was always in the mindset of dealing with the regime, falling into the trappings
00:20:45.120of, well, there are more moderate elements rather than the more hardcore.
00:24:25.300It's certainly, if not more than the military,
00:24:30.100or even if there are some military components,
00:24:31.920a lot of it is controlled by the IRGC.
00:24:33.680But it has become a point that they really have a lot of clout.
00:24:38.640And if you look at every time the regime has been intervening regionally, whether in Syria or even 11 other places, there's some kind of an IRGC entity involved in that aspect.
00:24:50.800So you may be funding Hamas or Hezbollah, but there is an element of the IRGC involved in all these characteristics.
00:24:57.260Which brings me to the point of why it is that I think if there's no shift in policy in terms of how do we deal with this regime, how do we weaken this regime, whether it's its proxies or whether it's the regime itself, one of the issues on the table, which I think should be part of that policy, is the IRGC should be sanctioned and placed on a list of terrorist organizations.
00:32:32.520And in that sense, you don't have to engage your troops.
00:32:35.740You don't have to spend your own money.
00:32:38.040But you can find ways of actually helping those campaigns within Iran to finally have a chance to be successful.
00:32:46.020It also facilitates the transition post-regime.
00:32:50.140Because I know that some of the concern is, are we going to have a scenario of chaos?
00:32:55.340Is it going to be a vacuum that is not filled?
00:32:58.040Are we going to have some situation of anarchy and instability?
00:33:02.440Well, what I'm suggesting is that this strategy includes a controlled implosion with a plan for transition post-regime into the next phase and has its component.
00:33:14.760And it also includes maximum defections from the regime, because unlike what happened, example, what happened post Saddam Hussein in Iraq and debaithification, which was disastrous in terms of consequence, this time we're not saying that everybody on the job has to disappear.
00:33:30.760So long as their hand is not sold in Iranian people's blood, they can survive regime change, and they can have a place and a role to play in the future.
00:33:39.440So you're talking about a national reconciliation based on amnesty and not revenge.
00:33:44.200not on retribution, while justice can still exist for people who have to seek that,
00:33:50.540but in the spirit of more of a sort of what happened in the case of South Africa,
00:33:55.400truth and reconciliation, those kind of approaches,
00:33:58.560which means that this is the path of least resistance for those who can now join us,
00:34:03.540who are disillusioned, former reformists, who know that now we have to go beyond this regime,
00:34:24.320And that's where you have to connect the dots and see, as a matter of foreign policy,
00:34:29.820as a Western democracy, with the values that we all cherish, which is the same thing the0.83
00:34:35.000Iranian people want, why are we wasting time trying to reason with a regime that in its0.77
00:34:42.320entire uh comportment is the most alien to these values and we as Iranians and me having lived in0.95
00:34:52.240this country for almost four decades and appreciate everything that is incorporated in your system of
00:34:59.680justice and separation of powers and the guarantees that exist and the institutions and the role of
00:35:04.080media and this and that and we'd like to be able to do the same thing for ourselves in Iran we are
00:35:09.840natural partners in this and i'm just conveying to you a message on behalf of millions of my
00:35:14.720competitors to say you know if not now when how many more generations have to be sacrificed how
00:35:19.760much more do we have to endure and americans should not think that by not us doing something
00:35:25.760we won't be engaged you'll be dragged into it whether you liked it or not it will still impact0.74
00:35:30.080you economically because the regime continues to for instance by supporting the hoodies
00:35:36.320uh certainly uh disrupting maritime traffic certainly it has an impact on oil prices and
00:35:41.680what have you so it's not like america can all of a sudden go into some sort of a introverted mode
00:35:48.000that we are disconnecting from everything else and they will be fine that's not going to be the
00:35:52.640reality of things but if you want to minimize the cost for yourself in terms of your national
00:35:58.000security interest in terms of your economic interest i'll go beyond about what it is that
00:36:03.600you're missing, imagine the potential that would be good for American entities and business if
00:36:10.320tomorrow Iran opens its door and says, we are open for business, come and invest and help us rebuild
00:36:14.800our country. And it's a win-win situation. So we need to start thinking what a different Iran could
00:36:21.360provide in terms of our interests rather than, well, we don't want to be dragged into conflict
00:36:25.600anymore. Because that means that nobody thinks beyond the status quo. And we should start talking
00:36:29.760about beyond the status quo you know you you bring up an interesting point and that is even if we
00:36:34.720don't want to engage with iran and iran is already engaged with us and i think we've seen especially
00:36:39.840lately that they've been very much embedded into our institutions here in the united states
00:36:45.280certainly in the west very much so in europe so we've seen what they've been doing on college
00:36:50.640campuses just the other day there was an intelligence leak about you know the israeli
00:36:55.680potential attack, came out of the United States. How embedded do you think Iran is already in
00:37:02.940American institutions where we need to be concerned and maybe even on alert?
00:37:08.380Well, I think the footprint is becoming more and more vivid. They are committed to that. They know
00:37:15.120what the weaknesses are in this country and are taking full advantage of it. You're not dealing
00:37:20.400with a dumb enemy. What are the weaknesses that you think they're taking advantage of?0.91
00:37:24.400I think the fact that it's a little bit of a naive thought that they will not try to influence through their lobbies, you know, what happens, you brought it up yourself.
00:37:37.740It's not only that, there are many other things as well, but they're at work.
00:37:40.940They're not only doing work regionally.
00:37:46.000They try to go as far as they can to Latin America even and many places, as you mentioned, in Europe.
00:37:52.080So everything to try to have a role that influences maybe the wrong way in public opinion, Khamenei had multiple offices in Europe through which they fund so-called organization for this and that.
00:38:10.560But in reality, they're doing the regime's bidding in antagonizing foreign citizens, journalists, the Jewish community or what have you.
00:38:19.600And now, most recently, we can see they're also trying to use, of course, it's not just Iran.
00:38:26.060There's a lot of Qatari money into it as well.
00:38:29.440But there is a lot of effort going into that.
00:40:02.940You know, your father had a good relationship with Israel.0.58
00:40:06.060The conflict between Iran and Israel seems to be somewhat of a new conflict.
00:40:12.060And I'm curious, why is Iran so obsessed with spending so many resources on destroying Israel?
00:40:19.180Well, obviously, it's extremely based on this virulent ideology, which goes even beyond anti-Semitism.
00:40:25.460It's one way to say if we can defeat and destroy Israel as one of the most solid allies of America,0.68
00:40:30.780that's another knockout punch to America as part of their tactics and strategy.0.78
00:40:36.060And so Israel has been targeted from the very beginning.0.70
00:40:39.620And what's interesting in the meantime, and again, this is something that I want to assist, especially for your audience and Americans who may not know that, that the regime from the very beginning tried to create that atmosphere of indoctrination of Iranian youth into being hating Jews or hating Israel or hating America.
00:40:58.380And, you know, if you talk to people who at the time were kids in Iran, what they were taught in school, they had to stand there and chant all these slogans, which is obviously not what they believe.
00:41:09.420And we saw footages of Iranians in different universities or public areas where the American flag or the Israeli flag is actually printed on the ground and the regime wants people to actually trample on it.
00:41:24.560and we can see people purposefully avoiding doing that,
00:41:28.160and that's a signal to you guys outside,
00:41:29.960say, hey, the regime wants us to chant these slogans,
00:51:02.800That if you're not tough vis-a-vis them, they don't feel any pressure.
00:51:07.700And of course, they will become even more virulent.
00:51:09.780It will become even more, you know, again, I'm talking about the financial component of money that the regime should not have had if the oil sanctions were actually implemented, which they were not.0.54
00:51:22.280So in excess of $150 billion, money in the hands and the pockets of a regime that used it not to feed hungry mouths in Iran, but in fact, again, support their proxies that may have, in fact, led to the October 7th attack against Israel.
00:51:39.780What is your reaction to now the Iranians training with the Saudis
00:52:10.580But they are responding to the immediate state of affairs.
00:52:14.300But I think, if anything, it's all tactical,
00:52:17.500but it doesn't change the nature of the challenge that we face.
00:52:21.280And I think still the problem is that this regime,
00:52:25.380especially now that its proxies have been amputated,
00:52:29.660it has now the only means and recourse to,
00:52:33.020instead of playing through the proxies,
00:52:35.300so they gain advantage without assuming direct responsibility,
00:52:38.160Now they have to attack themselves directly, which explains perhaps why they actually decided to launch those missiles against Israel.
00:52:46.340Despite all the terrifying news, I'm grateful to be sitting with you in a moment where you sound pretty optimistic, actually, because you feel like the citizens have an appetite to fight.
00:52:59.600You feel like you're at a moment where Israel has an appetite to defend itself, I guess.
00:53:07.900Maybe the United States is going to wake up and also help vis-a-vis sanctions or other concepts and ideas that you've outlined.
00:53:18.000And so let's go into the vision of optimism for Iran, the new Iran.
00:53:24.540What does that look like and what role do you play in it?
00:53:27.520Well, recently, before I answer this question, recently I sent a message addressed to our
00:53:35.640neighbors in the region, which was very well received.0.63
00:53:40.680In the very same context of, imagine what a different Iran would mean to all of you,0.65
00:53:45.400in terms of our relationship with the Saudis, with the Israelis, and why it is that why0.58
00:53:51.980everybody is feeling constantly under fear of what's this regime next move or what have you,
00:53:58.960how different it could be. That is part of the whole dynamics for that change. What is a different
00:54:04.080Iran? A different Iran, a secular democratic Iran is going to be a country that proved before the0.97
00:54:11.100revolution that it could have cordial relations with our neighbors, which we did. And it could
00:54:16.820be even better in the future because now we are living in a world where, you know, Iran0.92
00:54:22.800was still part of a world where it was very bipolar.
00:54:25.980I mean, the West versus the Soviet Union, it was a very different in a geopolitical way
00:54:31.240of looking at the situation and the fact that oil was such a big factor and the whole dynamics
00:54:36.700of, you know, what the West had to do to make sure that it has access to that energy.
00:54:43.100And that has always been one of the factors in the Middle East.
00:54:45.240but now you're seeing changes in societies, you're talking about steps taken towards liberalization.
00:54:53.480What MBS is doing in Saudi Arabia in terms of advancing more and more liberalization in some
00:54:59.720form, which we've never seen that in recent history happen in the Arab world. This means
00:55:05.640that today's youth in Iran, or in Abu Dhabi, or in Riyadh, or in any of the other countries
00:55:34.740And I think in terms of that, Israelis know what the Iranian people feel about them, and
00:55:43.080And only in recent years, in recent months, have we seen a far more evident symbolic gestures vis-a-vis that.
00:55:52.980The kind of slogans that people chant in Iran, the kind of responses that we hear from the Israeli side.
00:56:00.580I, myself, when I was in Israel about a year and a half ago, you know, when I was talking to actual average Israeli citizens completely spontaneously,
00:56:08.760You know, how much affection they had for Iran and Iranians and dreaming of the day that we will have finally beyond this regime, this liberation that will bring us as people together.
00:56:19.940And the same sentiments probably exist also in the Arab world next door to us.
00:56:24.980How did the Israelis receive you when you went there?
00:56:29.800And, of course, you know, what's interesting is that from a historical perspective, I think I was the highest ranking Iranian ever to visit Israel.
00:56:37.760ever since the temple was helped be rebuilt by Cyrus the Great when the Jews in Babylon
00:56:44.520were freed and he helped rebuild their temple. So it was very significant from a historical
00:56:49.920standpoint, but it was really a message of we value all these principles of freedom, freedom
00:56:58.600of religion. I made it a point to go to the prayer world in Jerusalem. I made it a point
00:57:06.600to visit the Haifa temple of the Baha'is. I made it a point to go to the Vatican. I
00:57:14.060made it a point to go and visit a Zoroastrian temple in Houston. The point is, this is what
00:57:21.280Iran was like. Multi-ethnic, multi-religious, a true melting pot, long before America even
01:00:52.800So I think that as far as it relates to me and my role, I'm only focused on being able
01:00:58.900to be, because of the trust that they put in me and because of what I've been asked
01:01:04.840to intervene, to be able to lead this transition, to help with this process.
01:01:10.000So finally, Iranian say, you know what, now we finally have decided in a completely free
01:01:16.760and fair system of elections, our future and its leadership.
01:01:23.220And I think that I'm much more interested to focus on citizens taking responsibility
01:01:28.140for their choice, rather than having to rely on somebody else to make all the necessary
01:01:35.060choices, if that makes any sense for you.
01:01:36.720I'm not saying that leadership is not necessary.
01:01:39.880I simply think that by strengthening the institution, you have much better chance of succeeding in actually instoring a true secular democratic system that should go beyond the role of one individual.
01:01:55.360That's what I'm trying to work with people to understand that as much as it's important to have leaders to step in, and I'm not shying away from that part,
01:02:04.440But I think it is important to understand the vision that I propose, that we would not have solved long-term the problem if you are looking for just a momentary change, but we need to make that systemic.
01:02:19.580I really believe that we should not make the role of individuals more important than the role of institutions.
01:02:25.080It's a process, but that's my ultimate goal in helping them.
01:02:27.980Do you have people in mind who you believe could help build those systems?
01:02:32.520I mean, this is, I guess, a typical CEO question that I have as somebody who's built an organization.
01:02:37.860If you come in and you say, OK, we're going to start new, there's going to be a new process and we're going to build a new process.
01:02:43.860You need those great minds. You need those great facilitators and doers.
01:02:47.900Are these people that you are aware of? Do you have some thoughts about that?
01:02:52.840And do you see yourself as kind of the great organizer?
01:02:56.380Are you more of the figurehead because you give so much hope and you're their blood?
01:03:01.680and the legacy, or do you see yourself doing both,
01:03:06.080where you're both the blood, the legacy, and the figurehead,
01:03:08.500but you, in your mind, have some people who you can recommend
01:03:11.660for the citizens to listen to and rely on to build anew?
01:03:18.100Yeah, it's pretty much what you just said.
01:03:20.100Look, for instance, I think that the most obvious thing is
01:03:23.780we're talking about liberty, we're talking about the human rights,
02:27:18.040IRGC headquarters and Basij command centers are going to be on the list.
02:27:22.980The air defense sites are going to be on the list.
02:27:25.940So rocket launchers might be first,0.99
02:27:28.160but taking out the remaining air defense that the Islamic Republic has0.97
02:27:31.800after the 12-day war is going to be probably high on the list
02:27:35.440before Israeli and American planes will have complete control
02:27:42.240over the Iranian airspace so that there's no basically threat.0.94
02:27:45.540Not that the air defense system of the Islamic Republic could do much, but once you take them out, there are more fighter jets that will be able to just use the airspace as they want without worrying about anything.0.83
02:27:58.880Some people were suggesting that there's a state media like the Saddam Hussein, for example, that might be a target.0.90
02:28:08.580It's very interesting because some suggestions I'm hearing from Iranians outside of Iran to Iranians inside Iran regarding when to come out.
02:28:18.200They're suggesting that, you know, once the war starts, that's not exactly the time that Iranian people should come out.0.59
02:28:27.300They're suggesting once you stop hearing the Islamic Republic's air defense working, that means that's the sign for the Iranian people to come out again, because that means that that might suggest that that is the time where the Iranian people are going to have the upper hand.0.85
02:28:45.140because once the air defense is cleared out,0.83
02:28:48.220that means that the regime forces are now going to be a target of airstrikes
02:28:54.100or drone attacks by the United States and Israel.0.93
02:28:58.240So that means that the Iranian people will have the upper hand0.99
02:29:00.700if they come into the streets by that point.
02:29:02.840I don't know if this is true, but that's what some suggestions are here
02:29:05.520where we're giving to the Iranian people.
02:29:07.580And also I've heard that at some point when the Iranian people have the upper hand,1.00
02:29:12.400it makes more sense for them to come out at daytime instead of nighttime because you come0.95
02:29:17.720out at nighttime because under the cover of dark if if the islamic republic has the0.86
02:29:22.040upper hand then you need the darkness to basically to hide under the cover of darkness right but if0.76
02:29:29.640eventually the iranian people have the upper hand then darkness doesn't work for the iranian people
02:29:34.720the darkness will work for the regime forces so in fact in that moment you need the light
02:41:40.860um i also have a little bit of um sad news so um you heard about homid homie dion right like he's
02:41:52.500been people have been speaking a lot about um homid homie dion homid homie dion um here let me
02:42:02.520let me, uh, so, um, it's this, wait, let me remove this. So, so Hamid Hamidiyan was killed
02:42:22.300in Tehran on January 8th after being shot in the neck. This was the last post he made before his
02:42:30.100death so this is him and then on january 6 he said mr president real donald trump since you said
02:42:37.780you're watching the situation in iran at least 20 people got killed that was january 6. we can't beat0.51
02:42:45.060the devil empty-handed i'm begging you to cut to the chase and finish the mullah regime so um you
02:42:51.940know he's just one voice out of millions millions in in occupied iran who support um american0.69
02:43:01.300military intervention and want military um intervention and um he he um was murdered
02:43:11.620on january 8 and uh i went i this is this is a part that made me really sad so i actually
02:43:18.580I went to go look at his account, Armin, and, you know, he only followed 202 people, and I was one of them.
02:43:27.520I was one of them, so he followed me, right?
02:43:31.860And, you know, I just found out that he's one of the thousands of Iranians in Occupy Iran who follow me and, you know, count on me to be their voice.
02:43:43.360And so, you know, that's one of the reasons why Armin and I do this, because we know, we know we have support from Iranians in occupied Iran.
02:44:05.420I would say that there's probably like at least every day, two or three videos come out by different people, like making videos attacking me.
02:48:12.640we i'm hearing from a lot of my um admins on our persian discord server so a lot of them are okay
02:48:20.000so but not some gander um goldie there's a post that a lot of people are sharing regarding a
02:48:27.660strategy to get more to finally get like proper attention from the international community can i
02:48:33.240just show this as quick yeah go for it all right this is guys this is what we should be doing okay
02:48:39.160So they're saying, tell them Khamenei is Jewish, saying the fastest way to break the silence of the UN, EU, Amnesty, International, Human Rights, all of these human rights groups and everyone else, anti-racism, Human Rights Watch, ICC, ICJ, leftist and socialist parties, anti-racism and anti-apartheid movements and the global feminist movements and the whole world.
03:07:31.800They hit themselves like they were black and they go like this.0.90
03:07:35.480They have chains, they hit their back, sometimes they cut themselves to show how sad they are about this event that happened, you know, 1,400 years ago.
03:07:46.440But a lot of Iranians are pointing out that whatever happened 1,400 years ago to Hussein and 72 people, those other people,0.73
03:07:55.960what the Islamic Republic is doing is astronomically more brutal than whatever happened in Karbala, whatever happened in Karbala, right?0.87
03:08:04.120And she's saying that this is the real Asherah.0.94
03:08:07.340This is the real Asherah in these two days.
03:08:12.060By the way, guys, just for the record, I'm actually on Yazid's side.
03:08:16.480I know this is not going to make sense for a lot of people here,
03:08:19.500but for people from Iran or anybody with a Shia background,
03:45:37.360so she's saying i wanted to say something to people from my city from from
03:45:46.720so she's saying okay this requires some explanation so she's saying that
03:46:08.080there was a time in swahan that when we came when we women came into the streets even if
03:46:15.120one hair one hair just a little bit of a hair was shown outside of our hijab they will in this one
03:46:23.520they will come tell us that we gave martyrs we gave martyrs why are you showing your hair so this
03:46:29.440is kind of weird like you might think like what does martyrs have to do with hair do people
03:46:34.800understand what does martyrs have to do with women's hair so this is a common thing that they
03:46:40.880used to say in iran the morality police the mullahs religious people when they saw women showing even
03:46:48.480a little bit of hair you know just a little bit of hair coming out of their hijab they will come and
03:46:52.960say put that back in put that hair back in under your hijab we gave martyrs means we gave
03:47:02.960martyrs we gave martyrs so what does hair got to do with giving martyrs all right what what
03:47:10.880So the understanding, the lie, the lie that the Islamic Republic tells you is that the people who went and participated in the Iran-Iraq war against Saddam's attempt to take part of Iran, the people who participated in that war, that eight-year war, they went there for the sake of Islam.
03:47:38.640They went there, they gave their blood,
03:47:41.980they gave their lives so that Islam could rule.
03:47:46.480And now, you're showing your hair?0.92
03:47:50.280They dyed so that that hair stays inside.1.00
03:47:55.620They dyed so that Islam, Islamic rule is being enforced,1.00
03:48:03.320And if you're showing your hair, then they died for nothing.
03:48:07.700If the martyrs during the Iran-Iraq war, if they died and you're showing your hair, that means they died for nothing.0.94
03:48:15.980So they always try to make you feel guilty for showing your hair outside of the hijab, saying that people died so that Islam is being followed here.0.63
03:48:32.380They will come and say like, ah, we gave martyrs. Why are you showing your hair?
03:48:35.960okay so this is what they said to people but the interesting thing is that is a lie
03:48:41.320because the vast majority of iranians who participated in the war even though the islamic
03:48:46.760republic was ruling at that time the iranians who participated in the war against adam
03:48:55.880they didn't really go there goldie is it okay if i mute your microphone because oh yeah sorry
03:48:59.960i'm muted sorry that's okay that's okay okay the the reason why so many iranians volunteered to go
03:49:08.920fight saddam was because saddam was challenging the border was taking part of iran they've got
03:49:16.520iranians in the chat do you agree with me the vast majority of iranians who participated
03:49:22.120in the iran iraq war it wasn't for the sake of the islamic republic it was for the sake of iran
03:49:28.120because Saddam wanted to invade Iran and take part of our land.
03:49:32.620And the reason why we know this is because the Islamic Republic was forced
03:49:39.940to give in to nationalist narratives to encourage people to...
03:50:55.600However, when Saddam attacked, they realized that Islamic narratives are not enough or not enough at all to be able to mobilize Iranians to go fight with Saddam.0.81
03:51:11.960So this is when Khomeini, against his own wishes, gave in to start mixing Islamism with some nationalist narratives, because that's the only way you're going to get Iranians to show up into the millions to defend their country.0.76
03:51:32.060And ever since then, whenever they don't feel like they need the Iranian people, they go full on Islamists.0.76
03:51:39.180And every time they're in a crisis mode and they need some Iranian people to, they try to fool the Iranian people by acting like they're somewhat patriotic, right?0.82
03:51:50.100But I say all of this for the context that when the mullahs and the morality police were telling women in Iran that, oh, we gave martyrs, why is your hair showing?0.58
03:52:02.280that's a lie because the iranian people participated in that war volunteered to
03:52:08.520participate in the war to save their country from saddam's invasion not for the sake of islam so
03:52:15.860that's a lie they even guys they even made up fake wills by some of the soldiers saying like oh
03:52:24.340right before like guys i kid you not on state tv they were read they made up a will from one of
03:52:31.080soldiers and they were reading it out loud and crying about the soldier. Oh, I'm going to go
03:52:36.520and I'm going to die. Tell the people of Iran that I'm doing this for a hijab.1.00
03:52:44.280I'm doing this so that the heads of our Iranian women are covered. I know I'm going to die,1.00
03:52:50.360but this is what I'm going to go die for. To keep the heads of Iranian women covered.1.00
03:52:57.080sure okay that they actually read that on state tv and crying about while crying about it okay0.85
03:53:03.240okay so let's go back to this woman now that you have full context
03:53:18.840yes they told us that we gave murder so why is your like your hair showing
03:53:22.920so is one they told us that oh is one is a city that gave the most martyrs so why is your hair
03:53:30.320showing so she's saying however on january 8 and january 9 the iraqis the iraqis that came and
03:53:49.340killed people, they brought them into Esfahan. So you guys, you see the point that she's
03:53:54.780making? Because they keep reminding us about Iran-Iraq war and how many martyrs the city
03:54:04.460of Esfahan has given, but now the regime itself is bringing Iraqis to kill the Iranian people.0.83
03:54:11.260So the whole point of that eight-year war with Saddam was to keep Iraqis out of Iran. That's0.84
03:54:16.560the Iranian people went and died for, not for hijab, but to keep Iraq out of Iran.0.99
03:54:21.840And now they're actually bringing importing Iraqis from inside Iraq to Isfahan to kill Iranians.0.97
03:54:30.320You keep talking about martyrs. We gave martyrs to keep the Iraqis out,1.00
03:54:36.160but now you're bringing the Iraqis in yourself by the regime to kill us.
03:54:40.320so she's saying that the the isfahanis they went and died in that war to basically stop the iraqis
03:55:03.720from coming in so that Iraqis do not kill their fellow citizens and they don't
03:55:12.040they don't and for this for protecting our soil and the lives of our people from Iraqis that's why1.00
03:55:18.120we that's the reason we went and died in in the war but they themselves went and brought the0.99
03:55:27.160the Iraqis now in the middle of Esfahan and they killed the boys and girls of Esfahan.0.51
03:55:53.460she's saying now i want the family members of the martyrs of the people who died in the eight-year
03:55:59.300war i want you to go to the mart the the the martyr institution the place that they take
03:56:07.700care of the families of the martyrs i want you to go there and want basically want
03:56:15.060ask for justice for the blood of your of your family members who died in the eight-year war
03:56:20.020because your family members died so that they keep the Iraqis out but now the government itself is0.70
03:56:25.540bringing the Iraqis inside Iran so you have to basically go and ask for justice because basically
03:56:31.300your family members died for nothing your family members didn't die for woman's hair your family0.98
03:56:37.380members died to keep the Iraqis out and now the government are bringing the Iraqis in0.94
03:56:44.420yeah so they died for nothing so all these years that they were telling Iranian women that if you
03:56:48.900you show your hair then the martyrs died for nothing that was fake but now that the iraqis
03:56:54.780are in the middle of isfahan that's actually the reason to think that the martyrs died for nothing
03:57:00.480they're like she did they died for nothing if it wasn't for nothing they wouldn't bring these
03:57:15.800iraq is in the middle of us guys this is a very educational thing i think you guys learned a lot
03:57:24.040of things just because of this one two minute video right so the host is saying not only did0.82
03:57:42.600they bring the iraqis to kill to kill our people inside our own country they also took our wealth
03:57:51.720and the resource of our of our country to iraq to build them stadiums to build them houses0.99
03:58:05.080so guys if you don't know the the the islamic republic takes the oil and gas money0.91
03:58:11.880and instead of spending it on their own people they build houses for terrorists shia groups
03:58:17.320like hash dashabi or popular mobilization front inside iraq for their iraqi fighters inside iraq
03:58:25.720so they did also that they basically brought them water electricity
03:58:35.320we in inside iran we were dealing with poverty
03:58:38.200but they were building basically infrastructure for their terrorist groups inside iraq
03:58:44.440and like they use the the best of our young people in eight in the eight year war against
03:58:56.660saddam they put them in front of uh basically bullets and missiles and
03:59:02.500and they threw them on top of mines0.98
03:59:07.840oh so that they could empty our country from lions
03:59:15.800so that they could do their stealing more
03:59:18.680so here he's saying that in the eight year war
03:59:21.340they killed they basically send our lions
04:06:00.180the snake, and we're trying to get the leaders out of there so some kind of transition can take
04:06:06.300place. A military strike in of itself won't do that unless you put boots on the ground here,
04:06:12.060and no one's thinking about doing that. But it certainly helps to put them on the path to doing
04:06:16.260that. And listen, just the threat of this happening has to be weakening the resolve of
04:06:22.060the leaders around the Ayatollah. I mean, Iran, Cheryl, is at the worst situation it's ever been
04:06:29.220since they came into power in 1980, and they are weak politically, economically, and militarily,
04:06:36.600and really on the cusp of not being even able to recover any of this because of the economic
04:06:42.960situation in this in such poor shape militarily. You can imagine the pressure that the leaders
04:06:48.960feel, much as Madora, the leaders around Madora were feeling, is this worth sticking with this
04:06:55.540leader. If our fate is what it appears to be, you know, that our fate is a very dangerous
04:07:01.800situation in terms of the other leaders surviving. So there's a lot of pressure on the regime.
04:07:07.300And I'm assuming we're talking to some of those leaders like we weren't speaking to the leaders
04:07:12.580in Venezuela prior to the operation that we conducted there. No, I'm sorry, I didn't mean
04:07:17.500to interrupt you, sir, but I, you know, there was a defection in Dallos by an Iranian official.0.84
04:07:21.280And then what we're seeing now is that there seems to be some reporting out there that, to your point, I agree with you that, look, the Ayatollah is back in a bunker again.
04:07:33.740And the way to do this is to target the Iranian, you know, the RGC, but then also to find those allies, if you will, those underneath the Ayatollah that are willing to work with the United States.0.66
04:07:48.680And I agree with you about no boots on the ground. That seems to be, you know, the concern from this side of the Atlantic.0.70
04:07:55.740Do you think that that's that that's possible?
04:08:00.000Well, we don't know, but I just know that the pressure is significant and certainly the threat of an attack.
04:08:07.060And and people know when President Trump says he's going to do something, he does it.
04:08:11.440So I think, one, the attack itself executed could put them on a pathway to a change.
04:08:19.720And two, if something else can occur as a result of the pressure that's on them,
04:08:26.320that certainly would be a welcome event anyway.
04:08:29.040We're trying to get rid of the head of the snake here
04:08:31.120and eventually try to work with a new government
04:08:35.100that would likely what we're seeing in Venezuela be a transition government,
04:19:45.560i have something i have something better for you this will this will cheer you up
04:19:49.800this will cheer you up so as the internet is coming back we're getting more and more videos
04:19:55.560apparently look at this this is from january 9. so this is when the internet was shut down we
04:20:01.240were waiting for videos iranians took control uh over the streets and destroyed a bass siege base
04:20:07.480destroying all their material and equipment this was in kadaj look at this
04:20:24.920I feel so sad because he's saying he thinks he thought that this that was it this was
04:20:51.700january 9th he said it's over it's over i think a lot of iranians yeah well i was gonna say it is
04:20:58.520over because even king of alibi he has said that the islamic regime is over it's just a matter of
04:21:04.860how long it's going to take right so this is why so guys this is why the islamic regime shut down
04:21:11.600the internet on january 8th because they did not want these sorts of videos coming out right that
04:21:17.600video is from January 9 when you know total internet shutdown and so for him to say like0.63
04:21:24.000you know it's over Armin I know I know like I know you know we we like we want the Islamic0.98
04:21:34.360regime like gone today like both of like you know we wanted it gone like years ago right1.00
04:21:39.780but what he's saying actually gives me a lot of hope so guys when we tell you that this
04:21:46.140is the final battle and this is it and there's no going back this is what we're referring to
04:21:51.700because stuff like this like we've we've never seen anything like this and this is why this is1.00
04:21:56.840why the islamic regime has become incredibly brutal and savage and this is why the islamic0.67
04:22:04.140dictatorship had to bring in their outside proxy militia forces right from uh iraq and afghanistan0.99
04:22:11.900and Pakistan and Hezbollah and Lebanon, the Palestinian jihadi savages, all these people0.99
04:22:18.060that they brought in, they had to bring in all the non-Iranians because the Iranians weren't1.00
04:22:24.620around. They were just, you know, they had retreated. So the Islamic regime, guys, it is
04:22:33.620over. It is over because doing something like this, there's no going back. They're burning0.98
04:22:38.780a best siege headquarters. So they're burning the headquarters of the Islamic Revolutionary0.92
04:22:44.320Guard Corps bases, right? So one of, this is like, think of like a police station, right? It's like
04:22:50.760a police station, but it belongs to the terrorists who are murdering Iranians. So this was on January0.99
04:22:57.4609. And this is why the regime shut down the internet, because they did not want you to know
04:23:02.760what's happening so when we say the regime is dead it is actually dead they just you know
04:23:10.480they're just not going to go down without a fight and that's why that's why they've become
04:23:15.200incredibly vicious that's why um they're you know the country is under a state of martial law or
04:23:21.180whatever but i mean iwan is pretty much a failed state like it's a failed state at this point armin
04:23:27.000Like nothing is working. The economy is down the drain. It's a state of martial law. It's occupied by non-Iranian terrorist proxies. Right. So it's literally a failed state. And what Iranians are waiting for is for some sort of outside attack.
04:23:44.760And that's why you're seeing a lot of pressure from the lefties and the communists and the Islamic jihadis who are trying to say, oh, no, President Trump, like, oh, we don't want military intervention because they know that without military intervention, unarmed Iranians can't finish the job.0.95
04:24:02.300But that's literally what Iranians are waiting for. And again, the mood, the mood from inside occupied Iran is this is a final battle. You know, we've gone way, you know, we've gone so far ahead. There's no going back. There's no going back. So everyone's just waiting for President Trump. And of course, you know, Armin, like you mentioned, this is like the biggest movement of military assets in like forever.0.85
04:24:27.600this is even bigger than 20 years ago um for like the iran iraq or gulf war so i mean something
04:24:34.400something is happening um and you know as as impatient as we all are uh we just have to we
04:24:40.800just have to wait we have to put our faith in in president trump uh in prime minister netanyahu
04:24:46.080and of course in in our leader armin uh king so yeah but here let me play this again this is crazy