Goldie Ghamari - Islam Exposed： History of Islam with Raymond Ibrahim

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00:02:00.000 Well, good evening, everyone.

00:02:25.240 Welcome to the evening edition of The Goldie Show, where it's a little bit more chill, a little bit more relaxed.

00:02:32.780 You know, we all grab a drink, we get cozy, we get comfy, and we watch a documentary.

00:02:41.760 Sometimes a documentary is about Iran, sometimes it's about something else.

00:02:46.740 last night it was like this weird conspiracy theory about like mithraism and we could only

00:02:54.040 get through like the first 47 minutes of it because it was just very very bizarre um but

00:02:59.440 first of all i want you guys to let me know what your poison is for tonight so for tonight guys

00:03:06.220 honestly i should be like a brand ambassador for bubbly at this point because i always like just

00:03:10.600 drink bubblies. So tonight, um, I have a peach flavored bubbly. I don't know if you can see

00:03:16.920 that. So, um, if you're, if you're in the YouTube comments, the YouTube live chat, let me know what

00:03:24.400 your poison is wherever you are around the world. Um, but yeah, like I love, I love bubblies. Um,

00:03:31.920 small fact about me. I actually, um, have a wine fridge in my apartment and there's no

00:03:40.480 wine in my wine fridge it's literally full of just bubblies like that's all i have in there so

00:03:45.680 there you go all right so we've got water um i think someone said someone mentioned they're

00:03:53.080 drinking whiskey or something so um oh coffee okay coffee there you go so anyways just want

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00:04:21.380 you guys really means a lot to me goldie should be sponsored by coca-cola is bubbly owned by coca-cola

00:04:30.580 i don't even know is is bubbly owned by coca-cola i don't know i don't think it is

00:04:36.800 honestly honestly i have no idea i have no idea but i just i like it because it's fizzy

00:04:44.740 and it has different flavors and i can drink it guilt-free um there you go oh ipa okay oh

00:04:52.840 cream soda, Dr. Pepper. That's delicious. Water, um, coffee. All right. Okay. You like Prosecco,

00:05:04.840 but you don't drink. I'm sure you could find like alcohol-free Prosecco, right? So there you go.

00:05:11.400 Oh, Bubbly is owned by Pepsi. Okay. I didn't know that. All right. There you go.

00:05:15.600 there you go. So, okay. All right. So tonight I have another, um, interview with Raymond Ibrahim.

00:05:27.840 Um, I got a lot of positive feedback, um, from everyone about the, um, trigonometry interview

00:05:35.200 that he did. And many of you wanted to, um, see more of him and hear more of him. So, uh, I found

00:05:43.800 another documentary, or sorry, I shouldn't call it documentary, more like, you know, just like a

00:05:48.420 podcast conversation talk. This one is from, let me just check here. So this one is from May 11.

00:05:56.200 So it's from earlier on in the year. And the description says historian and author Raymond

00:06:03.080 Ibrahim joins the Winston Marshall show for a powerful eye opening conversation on the hidden

00:06:10.600 history of Islam's conquest of the Christian world, and why so few dare to speak about it

00:06:18.800 today. Raymond traces the rapid Islamic expansion following Muhammad's death, showing how within

00:06:26.660 just one century, Muslim armies had violently overrun three quarters of the original Christian

00:06:34.200 world from Syria and Egypt to Spain and deep into Europe. He dismantles the myth of the

00:06:42.420 Andalusian tolerance, reveals the brutal realities behind the so-called Islamic Golden Age. That's

00:06:49.420 what I'm waiting for. I want to hear about the Islamic Golden Age because as I explained in my

00:06:53.980 earlier videos and also the video that I posted yesterday, there's no such thing as the Islamic

00:06:58.840 Golden Age. It's basically the Iranian Golden Age because all the scholars were pretty much Iranian

00:07:04.980 and they were Zoroastrian. And he also explains how the Islamic conquests shattered the Mediterranean

00:07:11.860 world, plunging Europe into the Dark Ages. So that's actually something new that I personally

00:07:19.320 learned yesterday. So up until I saw Raymond Raymond's discussion about this, and I don't

00:07:28.560 know, maybe it was Robert Spencer who mentioned something briefly, or maybe it was Dr. Bill

00:07:32.100 Morton, I don't know. But it was literally only a few days ago, that I actually connected

00:07:39.220 the dark ages to jihad, right? Because we always we learn about the dark ages, we learn about,

00:07:49.040 you know, the medieval dark ages, but we never really talk about what caused it. And so I found

00:07:58.000 that very interesting. So I'm very interested in learning more about this because it does make

00:08:04.440 sense. Okay. I have a few more comments here on what people are drinking tonight. Okay. So

00:08:09.680 Amir's on the coffee train. Ooh, 190 ever clear whiskey. Oh yeah. You sip that. Okay. But

00:08:17.440 So Grandview, so the whiskey that you're drinking, so this is where I'm going to judge you based on your answer. Are you sipping that whiskey on ice, like on the rocks, or are you sipping it neat? And based on your answer, I will judge you. So let me know. No pressure.

00:08:37.220 never heard of bubbly we don't have it in the uk bush bush light i don't know what bush light is

00:08:45.140 i've never heard of that so um okay um okay so so divorced divorce lawyer oh wow that's a that's

00:08:58.720 a mouthful. Divorced Lawyer asks, how could Islam grab Iran completely, but not India? That's

00:09:07.240 because Iran was, you know, right there at the border. And the Persian Empire had been weakened

00:09:16.500 by a 30 year war with the Byzantine Empire. And because they were so weakened, that's how Islam

00:09:24.080 and the Arab Muslim invaders were able to go in. And yeah, so that's, I'm sure, I'm sure Raymond's

00:09:34.900 going to talk about this, but the, the short answer in a nutshell is that, yeah, it was because

00:09:41.180 the Persian empire was severely weakened by the, by the, by the Byzantines. But if you look at the

00:09:47.120 history of Jihad map, it all didn't happen overnight. It still took like a couple of

00:09:52.200 decades but uh yeah yeah that's how that's how it happened um okay okay so pepsi what else do we got

00:10:01.100 here um oh you like drinking ad hoc we love it here in lebanon i tried ad hoc one time i don't

00:10:10.400 know the taste was too strong for me um because it's got like that licorice-y aftertaste to it

00:10:17.360 I'm not a fan of licorice. So beer, tap water. Oh, Boosh is American beer. Okay. All right. I think I caught up. Oh, cardamom tea. There you go. Cardamom tea. All right. I like that too. All right. Okay, guys. So let's get started here. I hope, you know, I've given you all a little bit of time to get settled in, grab your drinks. Let's go. And yeah, this is this is basically sort of a learning learning thing for me.

00:10:47.220 So, you know, for those of you who haven't joined my evening live streams before the purpose of my evening evening live streams is basically to just I mean, these are things that I would be watching on my own anyway.

00:10:59.640 And then I just figured might as well do a live stream while I'm watching them so other people can join me.

00:11:05.640 And, you know, of course, if there's interest, I'll continue.

00:11:08.880 I've been doing this for a couple of months now because there is a lot of interest from people.

00:11:12.780 So, yeah, there you go. This is just sort of a chill watch party.

00:11:16.560 and um there you go learning experience all right let's get started i'm actually really excited for

00:11:22.640 this is the missed attack after is the missed attack how we might find social cohesion today

00:11:29.460 in europe we got to go back to the beginning to muhammad now here's the first interesting thing

00:11:35.300 that few people understand from 632 the year muhammad died one century later 732 muslims are

00:11:40.980 now in the middle of europe fighting and abducting people and destroying churches they found what

00:11:48.020 they want to claim is this great time of tolerance and beauty but they're acting like isis on steroids

00:11:52.900 they symbolically were trying to denigrate christianity but we don't talk about that

00:11:58.740 in one century from mama's death they conquered three quarters of the original christian world

00:12:04.340 permanently this is what's building up towards the first crusade so then let's

00:12:09.940 go to the crusades you heard the word crusade it's such a diabolical evil thing evil venture

00:12:16.340 now what they don't tell you okay is one that's how effective they've been they've gotten that

00:12:21.860 narrative to become dominant maybe we just stick with 2025 and what's happening we've had some

00:12:26.180 reports from congo nigeria i think every week i have to read about dozens of christians being

00:12:31.380 killed and of course the media they they tell you no no this is a this is about climate change

00:12:36.340 But they actually do that.

00:12:37.460 I've noticed, and I've been following this and writing about it a lot,

00:12:40.320 Muslim persecution of Christians has been...

00:12:42.880 Just a quick note.

00:12:44.220 So for those of you who joined me or watched my live streams

00:12:51.080 about the Muslim genocide of Christians in Nigeria,

00:12:55.680 if you recall when Zari Yusuf, who's a Nigerian Christian, joined us,

00:13:01.080 he actually exposed and spoke about this, you know, excuse that the globalists and the Islamists

00:13:10.280 use when it comes to the Muslim genocide of Christians. He called out the fact that they'll

00:13:16.740 like blame the violence on climate change. And so he was saying that, you know, he thinks,

00:13:23.360 and I kind of agree with him, he thinks that one of the reasons that this whole fake crisis of like,

00:13:28.120 you know man-made climate change or whatever has been brought up so much is because that provides

00:13:33.400 cover for the um islamists to continue their jihad but then hide behind the excuse of climate change

00:13:44.200 because i don't know about you guys but the last time i thought about this like i've never heard of

00:13:48.440 at any point in the history of human civilization um people being murdered because of climate change

00:13:56.760 And yet somehow when Muslims murder Christians, the UN blames that on climate change.

00:14:04.900 Like it's very, very bizarre.

00:14:06.280 So I just want to point that out.

00:14:08.000 I have heard about this excuse before.

00:14:11.880 We've spoken about it.

00:14:13.260 And especially in my podcasts about the Nigerian genocide, we definitely spoke about that and

00:14:19.840 exposed it.

00:14:20.920 One of those most no, no topics.

00:14:23.000 We don't want to we don't want to go there.

00:14:24.540 make it relevant to what's going on in that because you're sort of given a historical context

00:14:29.000 germany muslims are going to be like 40 of the population i mean at that point yeah it's going

00:14:34.880 to be like

00:14:35.100 raymond ibrahim thank you so much for coming to speak with me on this show there's two topics i'm

00:14:46.940 keen to get into with you you've done an amazing documentation of the persecution of christians

00:14:54.320 by muslims in africa and around the world and you've been doing that for some time

00:14:58.300 you're also a prolific historian uh documenting not only islam in europe and but islam around

00:15:05.660 the world um before we get into those things i wondered if you could tell me a little bit about

00:15:12.100 yourself and tell viewers a bit about yourself and also why you call yourself cancelled on your

00:15:17.020 youtube bio uh well thanks winston it's great to be with you a little bit back of background

00:15:23.040 to myself is um i'm of egyptian sorry i just have to pause there uh the reason i laughed when he

00:15:30.240 said uh you know it was mentioned that he calls himself cancelled i was literally cancelled by

00:15:37.280 the national council of canadian muslims and doug ford and the ontario pc party because i was

00:15:43.840 speaking out against radical islam so to me it's just very interesting to see that anyone um from

00:15:51.840 the middle east you know north africa region who raises awareness about radical islam and islamic

00:15:58.400 terrorism and jihad uh it's like we we all get the same treatment so there you go like i you know

00:16:04.800 if actually if you go to my youtube profile it says wait what did i say i think i said like

00:16:10.080 proud islamophobic or something i don't know wait let me let me see what i said on my i don't use

00:16:15.600 the word canceled but what i say on my youtube channel is here we go what i say on my youtube

00:16:23.100 channel is proudly accused of islamophobia for exposing islamic radicalism and anti-semitism

00:16:30.680 in canada so there you go it's just interesting to see that um these jihadis use the same tactics

00:16:39.060 against anyone who is speaking about the truth in the middle east anyways all i want to say

00:16:43.580 let's continue in heritage descent Coptic specifically my family left Egypt I think

00:16:49.500 in the very late 60s I was born here um 73 and um so kind of gave me an advantage I was bilingual

00:16:57.260 I grew up speaking Arabic of a certain dialect anyway then I studied it formally in English

00:17:02.820 and obviously I had an interest in sort of the nexus of Western civilization and Islam because

00:17:08.800 of my Christian background. I sort of gravitated to Western civilization, obviously. But I was

00:17:14.780 very familiar with Islam and Egypt and my family and the background. So I've always been interested

00:17:19.680 in that. And then in college, I actually majored in history with a focus on, actually, I started

00:17:25.920 off with classics, but then I delved into the Middle Ages, medieval Islam and Byzantium, Eastern

00:17:31.880 Roman Empire. And, you know, you may know the name, Victor Davis Hanson. He was my professor

00:17:36.840 actually back way back then and we're still good friends he writes four words for my books

00:17:41.400 great guy um but you know he also got me interested in military history because before he became the

00:17:46.680 prolific commentator about everything he was a military historian and so my first my master's

00:17:52.000 thesis was about the first major battle between christian muslim armies major battle of the battle

00:17:58.080 of yarmouk in 636 so that was my ma thesis and then since then i've been um very much i continued

00:18:04.720 being very interested in the history but then I long story short after 9-11 I got another

00:18:09.240 I went to Georgetown University and I was accepted there and I also attended a PhD program but I

00:18:15.240 ended up leaving I had straight A's because I got a full-time job at the Library of Congress

00:18:19.220 and then I got a major book deal my first book was the Al-Qaeda reader I actually came across

00:18:24.100 writings by Al-Qaeda in early 2000 when I was working at the Library of Congress that had not

00:18:28.540 even been cataloged um so we actually that was turned into my first book that came out and that's

00:18:34.760 why because of all that full-time job and writing a book i essentially couldn't i was also told uh

00:18:39.820 victor henson made a good point he told me if you know you're you already got what most people who

00:18:43.920 are trying to get a phd want okay like books and details and you're also at a point with what

00:18:49.960 you've said and the position you've taken even if you get a phd nobody's gonna hire you yeah

00:18:54.140 because they're all left-wing universities and you're you know you're just they're not they don't

00:18:58.800 want your views there so that was another reason for me not to even bother with it um and then

00:19:04.500 soon after around 2008 or 9 i essentially resigned from the library of congress it was a great job i

00:19:09.260 was like a kid in a playground because i had access to all these very arcane esoteric books

00:19:14.300 but um and i've been a fellow at various think tanks since then uh including the gate stone

00:19:20.080 institute the middle east forum um i was for a while at the hoover institute etc and um that's

00:19:26.400 it since then i've also kind of gravitated back to my to my original academic interests which is

00:19:31.280 history so my more recent books one of them in 2013 i wrote crucified again exposing islam's new

00:19:37.200 war on christians which pertains to what we'll be talking about it's about the persecution of

00:19:41.200 christians in the modern era and then in 2018 i wrote sword and scimitar 14 centuries of war

00:19:46.800 between islam and the west which you might call my um magnum opus because it's like this is what i

00:19:53.460 was studying for over 20 years it's the continuation of the battle of yarmouk so that's chapter one

00:19:58.340 battle of yarmouk and then i go through all the other major encounters of wars all the way up

00:20:02.380 until america's first war with islam its first war as a nation actually the barbary wars um

00:20:08.400 and that book's done very well and it's been very controversial you know i was invited by the war

00:20:13.180 uh u.s army war college to give a talk about it and then i don't know if you know care the council

00:20:17.900 on they went ballistic the council of council on america's islamic relations which is like a

00:20:23.900 brotherhood wing uh and um muslim brotherhood yeah muslim brotherhood and uh they actually

00:20:28.940 got me um they they shamed the u.s army war college in rescinding my invitation by calling

00:20:35.380 them racist and i was a racist and a white supremacist so care the council on american

00:20:43.220 islamic relations by the way it's being now labeled as a terrorist organization in florida

00:20:50.340 and texas and my understanding is united states is working towards doing like a total ban on it

00:20:55.500 because care is linked to the muslim brotherhood so it's really interesting because um care in the

00:21:03.020 United States went after him and basically tried to cancel him, right? The Canadian version of

00:21:11.120 CARE, which is called the National Council of Canadian Muslims, did the exact same thing to me.

00:21:16.800 So I hope you guys start to see a pattern here with how these like Islamist jihadi organizations

00:21:22.140 operate. However, what I can say is that the fact that the National Council of Canadian Muslims

00:21:29.540 tried to cancel me is probably the best thing that ever happened to me, because if anything,

00:21:35.600 it freed me because when I was still an elected official, you know, I still had to be sort of

00:21:41.120 politically correct and, you know, whatever. But now that I'm a private citizen, I literally have

00:21:46.000 the freedom to say whatever I want, however I want. I don't have to answer to anyone. I don't

00:21:50.860 have to apologize to anyone. And the fact that the National Council of Canadian Muslims

00:21:57.320 accused me of Islamophobia just for speaking out against radical Islam and jihad the same way that

00:22:05.000 they're going after Raymond Ibrahim in the United States. That's actually given me credibility and

00:22:13.700 I just want to thank the National Council of Canadian Muslims because I know they monitor me.

00:22:20.520 I know they're like constantly like watching all my videos because they're trying to like find a

00:22:24.680 way to like do like a defamation lawsuit or something against me. So I just want to give

00:22:29.220 a big shout out to the National Council of Canadian Muslims. Thank you so much for freeing

00:22:36.300 me from the shackles of politics and political correctness because of you guys. My social media

00:22:43.700 accounts are blowing up, no pun intended. And yeah, I'm actually really, really enjoying this

00:22:51.920 and i'm getting a lot of support and so the fact that you tried to cancel me if anything made it

00:22:58.880 so that more people pay attention and listen to me and uh now you know you guys are pretty much

00:23:05.680 almost on the chopping block so there you go all right let's just continue says it was just so

00:23:11.680 childish and immature but the u.s army war college basically buckled and but the good news is a lot

00:23:17.520 of people when they some media reporter and a lot of people actually came on my side and totally

00:23:22.720 shamed them and parents wanted to withdraw their kids out of it and several congressmen sent a

00:23:28.320 letter to trump about it and then you know the all kinds of organizations gone so they re-invited me

00:23:35.280 uncancelled and yeah i was uncancelled and if anything they told me it was the second largest

00:23:39.760 event since a buzz aldrin event they had thanks to care for creating all that controversy everyone

00:23:46.880 want to see what this is about right all publicity is good publicity it turns out yeah so that's

00:23:51.980 anyway that's a little aside and then um the other book i wrote which is also very popular also

00:23:56.040 historicals defenders of the west the christian heroes who stood against islam where i just look

00:24:01.020 at uh eight biographies of kings and warriors and warlords who actually fought against islam and

00:24:06.200 people really like it because it's it's such a different story than what you're told one of them

00:24:10.220 is dracula vlad teppis vlad the impaler who of course is the most demonized and people are like

00:24:15.240 how would you put him in the book but if you look at the sources yeah he was he identified as a

00:24:19.460 christian orthodox and um and he fought against islam and he was and he was basically um the

00:24:25.880 impalement and we can even get into that that was his way of it was a tit for tat that's what they

00:24:31.160 were doing he learned that as a hostage of the ottomans the turks he watched them impale his own

00:24:36.300 people so this was his own way of fighting them back anyway so and that gives you an idea that's

00:24:41.860 very interesting because we've already seen a lot of examples of historical revisionism

00:24:48.260 when it comes to the Arab Muslim conquests and how even though we know that they were the invaders

00:24:57.060 and they were the hostile ones, they've tried to like rewrite history to demonize anyone who

00:25:05.420 fought back against them or stood up to them. So I did not know this about Vlad the Impaler.

00:25:14.560 So very, very interesting that he's saying that basically what Vlad the Impaler did,

00:25:20.640 he learned from the Muslims who were murdering him, like his people. So there you go.

00:25:29.900 This is why I like watching these documentaries because I always learn something new,

00:25:34.020 especially when it comes to to history so much of what i try to do is um give context and

00:25:40.260 correctives to what we think we know about history and a lot of it we don't like the crusades

00:25:45.140 um a lot of people you know think the crusades okay these are evil ventures white supremacists

00:25:50.100 going to colonize some poor nation and you know it's completely different and we'll probably get

00:25:55.060 into that well the crusades are back in the news because pete hegg said yeah he's got a crusade

00:25:59.060 cross blazoned across his chest and i've spoken a lot about that and but he's he's in the news more

00:26:05.940 recently for another tattoo he's in the news always for his tattoos an arabic tattoo of the

00:26:11.220 word kefir which means uh i it's usually translated as infidel but it means it's a non it means non

00:26:16.820 muslim but it has all these negative associations with it it's a pejorative it's a complete

00:26:22.020 pejorative i mean it's synonymous with subhuman you know enemy god hates you we should kill you

00:26:28.180 that's what the word means but it gets translated in english qurans as unbeliever very neutral

00:26:34.260 sounding um so anyway he and it's funny why are muslims angry that he has the word kefir in on

00:26:39.700 he's an infidel right they should that's what islam makes him but they're angry because he's

00:26:44.020 proud of it you're a kefir you should be embarrassed and ashamed but he's flaunting it he's he has it

00:26:49.540 as a tattoo he has it as a badge of honor literally do we know when he got that tattoo no i don't i

00:26:54.500 I don't, I don't know.

00:26:55.400 And I don't know if anyone does because all,

00:26:57.020 every time we see these tattoos, he doesn't talk about them.

00:26:59.500 They just capture some weird picture of him and you can see a tattoo.

00:27:02.920 And then they start talking about the tattoo because they finally saw it.

00:27:05.540 So I don't know.

00:27:06.320 Right.

00:27:06.500 Maybe he's been reading your books.

00:27:07.860 Maybe.

00:27:09.260 Um, but anyway, that, that recaps it with me.

00:27:11.540 So, and then since then I've just, um, writing my books and, um,

00:27:15.560 I'm still a fellow at think tanks.

00:27:16.820 I'm writing articles and I'm trying to develop my YouTube channel,

00:27:20.180 trying to do what you do and very modestly at this point, uh,

00:27:23.880 which is he's actually doing a really really good job guys do you follow him on youtube you guys

00:27:29.560 need to um let me let me just i think he has like i don't know wait i don't even know how many

00:27:35.360 subscribers he has i mean i i follow him i subscribe to him um okay so he has 118 000

00:27:43.240 subscribers right now raymond ibrahim um but his videos are getting like like tens of thousands

00:27:52.460 sometimes you know actually no they're not getting that many views like he

00:27:56.620 I mean some of some of his videos do get a lot of views but um he doesn't like this guy should

00:28:04.660 have like hundreds of millions of subscribers and yet he only has 118,000 so um yeah everyone

00:28:12.720 needs to to go um subscribe here let me let me just show you what his YouTube channel looks like

00:28:21.520 here. Um, remove the video. There you go. So that that's Raymond Ibrahim's channel. I'm just

00:28:33.940 going to put it in the, um, YouTube live chat as well. So you guys can see it. Um, but yeah,

00:28:42.180 go, go subscribe, go subscribe. Like he, um, he's got some fantastic videos there. So,

00:28:48.780 all right a little plug for him okay let's continue uh it's fun it's amazing to me because

00:28:55.260 when i write an article and even if it appears in pretty good websites you know you can tell

00:29:00.100 how many views there are via comments maybe 20 comments 30 comments but i make a little video

00:29:04.880 on youtube there's like 300 comments so you know i guess that's the way to go more people are

00:29:09.000 interested in watching than reading yeah yeah generational thing and i'm happy to oblige well

00:29:14.040 But look, you've mentioned the Battle of Yarmouk twice, and perhaps before we go into what's

00:29:21.760 going into Europe, maybe this is the starting point.

00:29:24.140 So what's happening at the Battle of Yarmouk, Ben?

00:29:26.320 The interest to me in the Battle of Yarmouk is it's the genesis of the conflict between

00:29:30.680 Christendom and Islam.

00:29:32.500 That's really its significance.

00:29:34.400 And so basically, we've got to go back to the beginning, to Muhammad, right?

00:29:38.560 Muhammad's dead 632 and now you have what's called the Ridda Wars which is uh after he died a lot of

00:29:45.000 Arabian tribes tried to break away from the fold of Islam and the first caliph Abu Bakr launched

00:29:50.380 these apostasy wars which is very interesting because even till this day Muslim clerics will

00:29:55.360 tell you without the law of apostasy which is you kill anyone who tries to leave Islam

00:30:00.080 Islam would have died out I mean they actually say that they admit it that's why we have to

00:30:05.320 have the apostasy law, because if people have freedom to leave, it will be gone.

00:30:09.620 So the culture of apostasy, punishing apostasy, didn't exist before then under Muhammad?

00:30:15.960 No, no, it did.

00:30:16.920 He's the one who, yeah, it goes to a hadith, a statement attributed to him, which is considered

00:30:21.560 canonical in Sahih Bukhari, where he says, literally, whoever leaves his religion, meaning

00:30:26.900 Islam, kill him.

00:30:28.400 So that was always part of the religion, according to that teaching, that hadith, and that's why

00:30:32.520 it's still there.

00:30:33.120 Okay, so by the second generation of Muslim leaders, they're now codifying that and…

00:30:39.340 Yeah, well, when and how Islamic law gets codified is kind of a controversial thing,

00:30:44.360 depending on which version you want to go to.

00:30:45.980 But most of it happens much later after Muhammad.

00:30:49.880 Maybe like he dies 632.

00:30:52.280 Really, the first writings and the hadith are maybe around 750.

00:30:56.700 And this is why there's a school of thought that says Muhammad never existed,

00:30:59.400 and it was all fabricated later to give a hegeographical foundational story to the umayyad

00:31:04.900 empire um but at any rate so you have now the muslim uh the muslim power is consolidated on

00:31:12.460 darba bakar and then later the other caliph omar um who are companions and friends of muhammad

00:31:17.880 and now the jihad is waged in earnest now here's the first interesting thing that few people

00:31:23.320 understand in 632 you know if i talk to someone your average person and i talk about the middle

00:31:28.860 east or north africa and they know it's muslim they don't know how it got muslim they think it's

00:31:33.820 always been muslim in the dawn of islam during this time that i'm discussing 632. yeah can i

00:31:39.900 just point out like it's so weird because it's like everyone knows that jesus was born um in

00:31:47.040 bethlehem which is in israel israel is in the middle east um but yet at the same time everyone

00:31:55.200 just assumes that the middle east has been muslim forever even though it's literally not the case

00:32:01.760 so yeah there is like this cognitive dissonance when it comes to um people's knowledge about

00:32:09.440 history when it comes to the middle east so i just want to point that out and so forth

00:32:15.280 the eastern world nor egypt greater syria as it was called which encompassed modern day israel

00:32:21.120 jordan lebanon it was a big chunk um anatolia or turkey what we call turkey and like i said egypt

00:32:27.700 all the way down to morocco mauritania and you know and augustine's hippo was there in tunisia

00:32:33.340 all that was actually more christian than europe so if you talked about christianity at the dawn

00:32:38.960 of islam you were talking about egypt you were talking about syria you're talking about asia

00:32:43.500 minor greece of course and europe but europe was actually less christian and of course anything

00:32:49.760 northwest of the danube brian was still not even germany you know the scandinavian lands hadn't

00:32:54.500 even reached christianity at that point um and this is why the roman emperor constantine

00:32:59.780 moved the capital of rome new rome constant constantinople to the east because that's where

00:33:06.780 everything was that's where the learning was that's where the sophisticated culture was

00:33:10.880 the wealth all right uh and again when people we have records of people traveling through egypt

00:33:17.880 and they say all we heard from the top of the nile to the bottom is just hymns and church bells etc

00:33:23.160 this is before islam same thing with syria okay so people miss this context this is what the

00:33:29.240 middle east was if you wanted to talk about christianity there were five major centers okay

00:33:33.560 they call them seas one was rome and the other four in the middle east okay one was alexandria

00:33:39.640 one was uh antioch one was jerusalem and then later constantinople all east and all conquered

00:33:45.320 by islam okay which we'll get into so anyway we have the first major attack um and we have the

00:33:51.080 battle of yarmouk in 636 and the the muslims prevail where is yarmouk yeah yarmouk is a river

00:33:58.200 in syria um or it was in greater syria at the time so i don't know if it's in part of jordan

00:34:03.400 now but i'm pretty sure it's in syria still um and that's where the two major armies the eastern

00:34:08.040 roman empire which they call byzantium i sort of don't like that word because it sort of

00:34:12.440 creates a discontinuity between the roman empire that's they saw themselves as romans even the

00:34:17.880 arab accounts call them romans you know so this word byzantine i just anyway but it's short it's

00:34:22.840 easy it's succinct so i'll use i do i interchange them but the eastern roman empire basically and

00:34:28.200 the arabs the muslims fought there and it was a major epic confrontations and the christians lost

00:34:35.000 and for various reasons among it you know there was a desk a desert storm which they

00:34:39.560 weren't used to fighting in whereas the arabs were and it takes on a great you know it's very

00:34:44.940 hagiographical tradition amongst arabs it's this is you know where it all begins and this is where

00:34:49.800 our allah proved he was for us because we beat the infidels etc etc and you know i won't get into it

00:34:57.680 but anyone who's interested really should read about the battle because a lot of what you know

00:35:01.280 isis the islamic state the stuff they would say which sort of sounds cryptic and people didn't

00:35:05.640 understand it. They would say things like, we've tasted American blood and none is sweeter. And

00:35:10.860 people just thought they're being gross. Actually, they were quoting characters from the Battle of

00:35:15.640 Yarmouk, Muslim heroes, specifically Khalid bin Al-Walid, known as the Sword of Allah,

00:35:20.620 who said to the Romans, we've tasted... I just want to say we have a new member. So

00:35:27.000 welcome, Eric Lin, to Goldie's Gang. I hope you're enjoying the live stream. I hope you're

00:35:34.700 joining the channel. And stay tuned because I actually do members only live streams. Those

00:35:43.120 are during the day though. So I have my daily podcast, The Goldie Show, where I talk about

00:35:49.620 all things Middle East politics jihad. Oh, you watch me on TikTok. Oh my gosh, you're here from

00:35:55.080 TikTok. Okay, so Eric, since you are here from TikTok, this one's for you. So Iranian here with

00:36:04.220 another pro tip for anyone who's not from the Middle East. If you want more content, follow me

00:36:09.740 on YouTube. There you go. Thank you so much, Eric. Welcome from TikTok. Great to have you here. And

00:36:16.840 keep an eye out because I do members only live streams on YouTube after my usual daily show. So

00:36:24.420 my daily show happens at 12 noon Eastern, goes for about two hours. And then at 2 p.m. Eastern,

00:36:30.880 I do a members only live stream. So stay tuned for that. Also check out my members only

00:36:37.620 message board on YouTube as well. Anyways, welcome. Welcome. So nice to see people from

00:36:43.440 TikTok here. Yeah, guys. So for those of you who don't follow me on TikTok or don't use TikTok,

00:36:49.040 I'm kind of a big deal on TikTok. I'm kind of like, don't, don't look at my YouTube numbers,

00:36:53.800 guys, because, um, I've only, I've only recently become active on YouTube and I've only recently

00:37:01.120 tried to, um, start growing my channel on YouTube. So, you know, it's, it's been growing a lot and I

00:37:07.960 really do appreciate that. But guys, like on Tik TOK, I'm basically like a big deal. Like,

00:37:13.140 look at this. I have, I don't know if you can see that I have 372,000 followers on Tik TOK.

00:37:22.100 so just saying just saying but um yeah anyways welcome welcome eric thanks for being here uh

00:37:30.580 always great to see new members and new subscribers and uh yeah like um i do i definitely do more like

00:37:37.620 long form content on on youtube so you'll see um a lot more info here oh bama bama squirrel you are

00:37:45.300 from tick tock as well okay wow there's a lot of tick tockers here guys there you go the tick tockers

00:37:53.540 are the ogs so all right okay let's continue here woman blood and none is sweeter all right so when

00:38:00.340 a lot of the things they would say is actually from that battle and other battles as well but

00:38:04.820 that's how you know these these battles and major confrontations with the christian world where they

00:38:10.020 prevailed so oh sorry i was just gonna say so for um for for those who don't have tick tock

00:38:16.180 you're not missing out everything i post on tick tock i pretty much post on youtube in fact i

00:38:20.740 actually post more content on youtube so if you're only following me on youtube you're good although

00:38:28.100 i would i would probably recommend if you have x follow me on x as well because i do a lot of like

00:38:33.700 text posts on x and you know things that i don't don't put on youtube will figure very prominently

00:38:39.780 in their historical consciousness whereas the most westerners they have no clue right yeah um so at

00:38:45.180 any rate the battle happens the west uh the the christians lose and now begins the great takeover

00:38:51.460 of these of the middle east all right egypt which was a major center for the roman empire gets

00:38:56.860 conquered four years later uh right or five years around 640 641 and you know the they continue

00:39:03.640 marching all the way west until they get to morocco around 690 they take over carthage you

00:39:08.380 know we're um and augustine and hippos all these major centers and in syria as well come completely

00:39:14.400 conquered jerusalem is conquered one year after yarmouk all right it's like a complete dominant

00:39:19.460 oh okay so uh i just want to pause because we have a super chat um in youtube so dormant says

00:39:26.280 Good evening, Goldie. I've heard a lot about this thing in Islam called, well, it's taqiyah or, you know, taqiyah as we pronounce it in Persian, in Farsi. So taqiyah is basically just lying.

00:39:38.760 Um, Raymond, so Raymond Ibrahim actually spoke about Takiyah in the podcast that, um, we watched earlier today. He might speak about it in this podcast, but if he doesn't, then, um, I will make a separate video about it.

00:40:00.200 Takiyah is basically the Islamic doctrine that you are allowed to lie about anything,

00:40:08.400 pretend, you know, anything. You're even allowed to lie and say something like you're not Muslim

00:40:14.840 if it is for the purposes of advancing like jihad and Islam. So yeah, that's basically what

00:40:22.560 Takiyah is. I have made a short video on the persecution of like one of my Iranian here

00:40:31.720 videos actually does talk about the Yazidi genocide. But I will make a note here. And I

00:40:39.680 will definitely make like a short video about the Yazidi genocide more than happy to do that. I

00:40:46.440 I don't think it is talked about enough and not a lot of people know about the Yezidi genocide.

00:40:52.940 And something that that was actually really, really horrifying for me is that during, you know, the whole Hamas-Israel conflict where, you know, Hamas terrorists were and also Palestinian, you know, civilians were attacking Israel.

00:41:10.940 during that whole conflict the idf actually found and like a a young yezidi girl in gaza

00:41:20.880 who had been taken there by a palestinian and i find that absolutely wild that um they're actually

00:41:27.720 like a society exists that is so savage and so barbaric that when like an old man randomly shows

00:41:38.220 up with an 11 year old girl and says, this is my wife, no one questions him. Right. Like, I mean,

00:41:46.340 like if, if, if let's say my next door neighbor was gone for a few years and then all of a sudden

00:41:53.300 just showed up and he had like, you know, an 11 year old girl with him and he's like, this is my

00:41:58.220 wife. I would like, I would call the cops right away. And yet no one, no one in Gaza upon seeing

00:42:05.940 this old man show up with an 11 year old girl. No one thought that maybe this is strange. Maybe

00:42:13.500 something's not right. Yeah. So people don't talk about this. People don't talk about this. They

00:42:18.260 just say, oh, the Palestinians are oppressed. No, they're a bunch of like savage jihadis. And

00:42:22.420 there's a reason that no Middle Eastern country in the world wants them. But I will definitely

00:42:27.100 make a video on the Yazidi genocide for sure. Absolutely. I don't think it gets enough attention

00:42:32.460 and my heart goes out to um all the yezidi people thank you for the support okay let's uh let's

00:42:42.080 continue no effect and there's theories of why this is one of them is the is that the byzantine

00:42:48.200 empire was very weakened at the time but also the muslims enter and conquer persia the sassanian

00:42:54.900 empire at the time okay and now it's in now iran's been conquered and they continue eastward

00:43:00.240 But just for brevity's sake, I'll continue focusing on the Western Christian world.

00:43:06.160 And so now, from 632, the year Muhammad died, one century later, 732, Muslims are now in

00:43:13.100 the middle of Europe fighting and abducting people and destroying churches.

00:43:18.900 Not just the middle of Europe.

00:43:19.800 As far north, there's Tours in France.

00:43:21.760 That's why I'm, yeah, that's the date.

00:43:23.260 732 is the Battle of Tours, which is right in the heart of France.

00:43:27.120 Spain has been conquered since 711.

00:43:28.940 okay now they you know after they they took over morocco now they sailed into spain and that was

00:43:34.320 completely conquered and devastated and now they're in the middle of france okay attacking and and this

00:43:40.380 is the battle of tours so in one year in one century from mama's death and historians have

00:43:46.460 actually quantified it but it's basically they conquered three quarters of the original christian

00:43:50.720 world permanently in spain not permanently but for oh wow so okay like some some person comes in

00:43:59.520 some person comes in and they're like is this a pro-israel channel i thought it was persian

00:44:06.760 um so from the spelling of your name obviously you're not iranian so um anyone who knows

00:44:15.520 anything about the history of Iran and Israel knows that, um, all Iranians are pretty much

00:44:23.000 pro-Israel. Um, the only Iranians who are not pro-Israel are, uh, the traitors who support

00:44:31.840 the terrorist Islamic Republic. So yeah, this is 100%, um, an Iranian channel. And that's why

00:44:39.740 this is also a pro-Israel channel because the history of Iranian people and Israeli people and

00:44:47.380 Jews goes back thousands of years, well before Islam was invented. And a bunch of jihadi

00:44:54.960 terrorists cannot erase the allyship and friendship that Iranians and Jews have had for thousands of

00:45:04.280 years so yeah this is this is definitely a persian channel that's why we are pro israel and pro jew

00:45:11.740 and happy hanukkah to um all the jewish people who are watching for like eight centuries they

00:45:19.240 were there and of course in france they still continued depredations and the mediterranean

00:45:24.300 islands were all conquered around the eighth century you know sicily and malta and all of

00:45:30.740 them cyprus and and roads for centuries um and again it's to me i'm just baffled at how people

00:45:38.560 don't understand these were not just christian countries these were the main christian countries

00:45:43.740 and they just got conquered and islamized and nobody knows this if you talk about those countries

00:45:48.540 now like egypt or syria most people just have this vague notion they were always muslim and you know

00:45:53.820 muslim just spread islam spread there no and again if you look at the sources both the arabic and

00:45:59.960 islamic and the european chronicles they make it unequivocally clear this was violent bloodshed

00:46:05.720 conquest and it's even worse in the arabic recordings because they boast about it the more

00:46:11.440 violent it is and the more you know the atrocities committed against the christian infidels and the

00:46:16.360 more churches destroyed this is more a reflection of how pious the muslim conquerors were so it's

00:46:22.280 actually worse in the arab i always find this amazing that it's more graphic sometimes than

00:46:27.080 European ones, which are a little more objective. They say, yes, we were attacked and thousands

00:46:31.660 were butchered and enslaved and churches, but the Muslim ones revel in it. Okay. And so now

00:46:38.580 let's just stop for a moment. None of this is being taught in any school at all. Can I just

00:46:42.460 ask, do you have a sense of the death toll in that first century? No, I mean, these, unfortunately,

00:46:47.100 seventh century is what we're talking about. We're lucky to have just the records that we have, but

00:46:50.720 and I know I put it in sword and scimitar where I talk about various regions that get conquered and

00:46:55.480 then some chronicle mentions a number okay but it's it's very hard it's very sketchy that time

00:47:01.680 i mean this is this is we're now nearing to what traditionally was called the dark ages because we

00:47:06.060 have which by the way and we can get into is a product of islam okay and many people don't know

00:47:12.420 this um and since i'm at it okay we're almost there so basically after what happened and the

00:47:17.260 discount so the mediterranean used to be known as kind of the roman lake and everyone egypt and

00:47:23.180 syria and all north africa and europe were all connected it was part of one empire after islam

00:47:29.020 took everything basically south of that north africa in the middle east it come and i already

00:47:33.320 told you that was the richer more profound the more sophisticated region little europe the the

00:47:38.300 rest of the christian was cut off completely papyrus ended it used to come from egypt that

00:47:43.120 was that supply was eliminated all of that is historically this is was the beginning of what

00:47:47.840 historians would call the dark ages okay and you don't know i mean and one historian uh

00:47:53.480 um so i actually just saw someone in the comments um who's apparently triggered that we're talking

00:48:01.360 about the history of jihad and then this person is like let me remind you of the crusades he can't

00:48:06.980 even spell he can't even spell remind um properly first of all but anyway so um i also wanted to

00:48:13.140 say this, this is not only a pro-Iran, pro-Israel channel. This is also a pro-Crusade channel. So

00:48:22.700 if you haven't seen my video about the Crusades, go watch that. So yeah, you can remind me about

00:48:28.880 the Crusades all you want. I think the Crusades were justified. And yeah, this is definitely a

00:48:36.140 pro-Crusade channel as well. Yeah, 100%. People need to go and learn the history.

00:48:43.140 Oh, we have a new member. Okay. Wyatt. Wyatt, thank you for becoming a member and for joining

00:48:51.320 the channel. I hope you enjoy. Welcome. Henry Perrin. He was, I think, a Belgian historian

00:48:57.500 in the 19th century, an orientalist, as they called them. He actually had an entire thesis

00:49:01.700 about this. And basically his line is, without Muhammad, there'd be no Charlemagne. The rise

00:49:07.500 of Charlemagne and the Frankish state was basically a response to the nonstop Islamic

00:49:11.860 aggression and the separate and the discontinuity of uh the mediterranean this is why now europe had

00:49:18.240 to develop on its own and start a new and it was you know it was the young kid on the block

00:49:23.400 the barbarians who had you know conquered and assimilated into christendom in the fifth century

00:49:28.600 and whatnot um they didn't they no longer had the assistance of the east as they did before

00:49:33.760 okay and so now they became the small final bastion of christendom and they continued being

00:49:39.740 attacked by muslims uh so you know to finish this idea of the dark ages so that's yeah so people

00:49:44.400 will tell you the dark age is historic and they don't even want to use that term anymore for

00:49:47.800 various reasons but they would say it was the 8th century and the 9th century and it was they would

00:49:53.260 tell you because of viking attacks and you know attacks from nomadic tribes in the east but the

00:49:57.740 real attack was the islam okay that was the main one from the south and uh the vikings people don't

00:50:03.500 even understand that a lot of the Viking raids, especially for slaves, white slaves, was to feed

00:50:10.520 the Arab slave emporium because there was such a demand for white slaves.

00:50:15.580 So they were selling, Vikings were selling slaves.

00:50:16.900 Yeah, they would go to Ireland and England and France and wherever and Concord. And all those

00:50:21.320 slaves, most of them would be sold down through the rivers of Russia to the caliphates, the

00:50:27.880 Abbasids, for example, the Abbasid caliphate. That used to be a well-known thing. And we know

00:50:33.340 this as well because a lot of the treasure troves of viking coins that are found in scandinavia are

00:50:38.840 arab coins you know so what commodity do vikings have to give slaves and we also have records for

00:50:45.320 it so you know the whole point is uh islam has had a profound impact on the shaping of europe

00:50:50.820 and there's historians i quote one in one of my books um uh something cardini where he basically

00:50:56.720 says islam was a midwife to europe it created europe and the reason europe became martial and

00:51:03.140 you had the night culture and everything and a very staunch christian kind of defensive posture

00:51:09.360 it was because of islam it was surrounding it and it was and they knew what happened they understood

00:51:13.660 that three quarters of christendom was destroyed and conquered and islamized um you know so it's

00:51:19.980 this is we haven't even reached the crusades okay and look what had look what islam had done

00:51:25.120 and i'm here to tell you and i've because i've looked at this and parents write to me about

00:51:28.820 school books textbooks and social science books what i just described you doesn't even get any

00:51:34.340 mention you just get one sentence about how islam spread through trade in the middle east and they

00:51:40.160 won't tell you the middle east was so christian before that they always like to act um seeing a

00:51:45.260 couple of comments here so i just want to share them so uh duane says people will damn the truth

00:51:52.780 and die for a lie 100 percent and you know raymond actually he's literally just talking about that

00:51:58.780 right now where he's saying um you don't hear about any of this in the textbooks all you hear

00:52:05.500 is that islam spread through trade um or you know through peace which makes no sense so um yeah islam

00:52:16.300 didn't spread through trade. It spread through jihad. It spread through rape, murder, you know,

00:52:24.280 cutting people's heads off and forcing people to convert. So there you go. TFDX. Something crazy

00:52:33.140 is happening in Iran. What are your thoughts on the mass conversions to Christianity under the

00:52:37.520 regime? So Christianity is the fastest growing religion in occupied Iran. Zoroastrianism is a

00:52:46.060 second fastest growing. We don't know the numbers because the crime for apostasy, you know, under

00:52:53.620 Islam and Sharia law is death. And so the Islamic Republic, you know, claims that like 99% of Iran

00:53:02.640 is Muslim, because literally everyone is forced to put their religion on their passport. And so

00:53:09.380 99% of people have to put Muslim. And so even though the vast majority are not, they're basically

00:53:16.000 pretend muslims um so we don't actually know the number of people who have converted to christianity

00:53:25.040 i would say given the current um appetite in iran and iranians like they're just sick like

00:53:34.400 we are just sick of religion um we're sick and tired of of anything to do with it and everyone

00:53:40.480 you know just wants something really private right like no one wants to talk about religion

00:53:44.880 in public. So there are a lot of Iranians who are just agnostic or atheist because they're just

00:53:53.600 sick and tired of dealing with Islam. But the reason that Christianity is one of the fastest

00:53:59.600 growing religions in occupied Iran is because Christianity just has a completely different

00:54:06.660 message from Islam, right? So Islam is all about like death and martyrdom. And, you know, if you

00:54:12.460 don't do this, you're going to die. You know, it's about killing, you know, infidels, you know,

00:54:16.840 all that, all that jihadi nonsense. Whereas Christianity is more about, you know, Jesus

00:54:23.760 dying for your sins and, you know, love and, you know, all that kind of stuff. I'm not Christian,

00:54:29.780 so I'm not going to like comment on it too much. But that's why Christianity resonates a lot more

00:54:35.960 with Iranians. But I would say the vast majority of Iranians are atheist or agnostic.

00:54:42.460 And less than 20% of Iranians today are actually practicing Muslim. And there's a lot of Iranians in the chat, they can give you some input and insight on that as well. But yeah, I mean, we don't we don't know the figures when it comes to Christianity, because again, the crime for apostasy is death.

00:55:04.300 Um, and just recently in the news, there was, um, like there was news about, um, some Christians,

00:55:12.200 uh, who had recently converted from Islam to Christianity, um, in occupied Iran. And they

00:55:18.740 have actually been jailed because again, um, leaving Islam is a crime. People are asking me

00:55:24.700 if I'm Muslim. No, I'm not Muslim. Stop asking me that. I'm not Muslim. Um, there you go. So

00:55:31.920 tfdx i hope that answers your question um i mean again less than 20 percent of iranians are muslims

00:55:43.320 so i mean if you ask an iranian if they're a muslim like 80 percent of the time they're going

00:55:48.360 to say no so there you go like europe was christian christian and everything else wasn't no

00:55:53.680 europe was the the the leftover portion of christendom that never got conquered

00:55:58.140 portions of it did, Spain and the Balkans later under the Ottomans. And we'll get into that.

00:56:04.780 But yeah, so this is, I'll stop. So why do you think that they were so successful in so quickly

00:56:10.200 conquering so much? Yeah, there's a lot of theories about that. The one which I touched on

00:56:16.380 is, you know, the Roman Empire and the Persians were at war right before the Islamic conquest,

00:56:22.660 literally like a decade or two. They were constantly bleeding each other. So one theory

00:56:27.700 is that they were both so exhausted that when this new power rose up in arabia they were able

00:56:32.700 to just conquer them piecemeal um so that's one the muslim theory is god's on our side and this

00:56:38.100 is proof and this is why we won the ancient christian the contemporary christian theory

00:56:42.760 they always this is how people always thought they thought we were sinners and so you know god

00:56:47.400 had raised amalak against us or or whatever the old testament analogy is he's raised some kind of

00:56:53.480 pagan people to attack the the believers the hebrews and punish them and chastise them for

00:56:58.820 their evil ways so that comes out regularly uh amongst the christian do you think that there's

00:57:03.820 anything in the culture of christianity that yeah well that's the edward gibbon argument okay which

00:57:08.620 is basically that um you know because of christianity it's sort of emasculated the

00:57:13.540 martial ethos of the roman empire and it made wait i see in the comments presidential address

00:57:19.540 to the nation. Trump is speaking. Is he speaking about something relevant? I know that he made

00:57:26.700 a statement yesterday. He's speaking about the war on Venezuela. Do you guys want me to switch

00:57:38.380 to that? Do you want me to switch to the Venezuela war? All right. You know what? No, you don't

00:57:57.040 want me to switch? All right. Okay. All right. I won't do it then. The chat has spoken. We

00:58:05.760 will not switch to President Trump doing a live. Although, you know what, though? What's interesting

00:58:12.520 is that I do want to say this. So what's happening in Venezuela does actually have an impact on the

00:58:21.260 Middle East because the current Venezuelan regime is very, very closely tied to the terrorist

00:58:30.140 islamic republic occupying iran so there are like terrorist links there um i might do a video about

00:58:39.660 that another day um once we get more more information but um yeah uh keep an eye out on

00:58:47.520 venezuela because there are a lot of islamic terrorists there as well okay we will continue

00:58:54.020 but thank you thank you for letting me know that trump's being a presidential address i will watch

00:58:57.780 highlights later them sitting ducks you know for the arabs i i it's not going to be world war three

00:59:04.900 guys like that i don't even like it's not i don't even think it's going to be like an actual war

00:59:08.820 like venezuela is going to have no way to be able to counter the united states anyone who um anyone

00:59:15.700 who says like it's going to be world war three no it's it's not true that's also a um i don't

00:59:23.220 don't know how accurate that is because uh you still find very martial christians during this

00:59:28.360 time you know like uh so okay so charlemagne is now the year 800 we have the rise of charlemagne

00:59:35.600 before we get to charlemagne though so uh they the the muslim armies are they don't conquer tours

00:59:42.900 and they're fought back right and i think all the way back to spain if you correct me if i get any

00:59:47.320 of this history.

00:59:48.320 Yeah, no, no, right.

00:59:49.320 So, what galvanizes them, the Europeans, to fight back?

00:59:54.600 And why is it that they don't go past into, at that point, presumably it's called Al-Andalus,

01:00:00.040 right?

01:00:01.040 That's what the Arabs call it, yeah.

01:00:03.040 What would the Europeans have called that region?

01:00:05.900 To them, it would, I mean, it's known sometimes as Iberia, but it's this, the Spains, because

01:00:11.480 it was various Spanish kingdoms before it became one, Hispania, that was, I think, its

01:00:16.440 so there was a at least by the time they got to tours which is a long way into far into europe

01:00:22.160 there was a a sort of galvanizing of christians christian armies and there was a military response

01:00:27.720 right so in spain you had the visigoths okay and um el andalus is actually because the arabs they

01:00:34.200 somehow confuse the visigoths with the vandals el andalus vandals okay so that's i think the

01:00:40.440 origin of the etymology of that why they call it that yeah because the vandals were in north africa

01:00:44.960 also a little before that time, and they conflate them all together, Vandals, Visigoth.

01:00:50.760 They fought back, the Visigoths, and they lost. I mean, they were, and again, we can, again,

01:00:56.540 these are very sketchy sources. We just have one or two chronicles that are vague, but we know they

01:01:00.580 fought back and there were major battles, but they lost and they got Islamized. And, but, but then

01:01:06.800 a very small, you know, a very small group of Christians, according to both Muslim, and it's

01:01:12.760 very it's a very interesting story um led by a man named paleo or pelagius and he was the one who

01:01:18.400 supposedly initiated the reconquista so they fled into the rocky barren regions of the northwestern

01:01:24.920 quadrant of the spanish peninsula and they lived in caves just a small group of christians okay and

01:01:31.040 the rest of the christians were became themies or you know subjects of the islamic state paying

01:01:35.120 tribute and being essentially second-class citizens and um but from that small hole in the northwest

01:01:40.920 quadrant is where the um reconquista begins and it just it comes down slowly southwards so that's

01:01:47.720 almost immediately after yeah yeah yeah okay according to the uh yeah and then you've got

01:01:52.360 sort of 800 years of battles between them until 1492 basically and still muslims are there even

01:01:57.880 after 1492 but so basically from 7 11 and we're talking like over 700 years almost eight uh of

01:02:04.360 and it's you know to me spain is a microcosm of the sort of christian muslim wars because it's

01:02:10.360 all just concentrated in one little nation. And all the things that we know that we can talk about,

01:02:15.800 about these conflicts manifest themselves in stark display in Spain. Because you have the

01:02:22.040 Christians versus the Muslims. The Muslims are in the South, the Christians are in the North.

01:02:25.240 They're in constant warfare. So they're not actually living amongst each other.

01:02:28.200 They push to different regions. Well, so the free Christians of the North,

01:02:31.400 that were a small group, they started pushing South and they were independent and they were

01:02:36.360 the enemies of the muslims a lot of christians during the conquest did live in the south with

01:02:41.960 the muslims as second class dhimmi's subjects okay and every time as usual when the muslims

01:02:49.240 and the christians were fighting the muslims of the south versus the free christians of the north

01:02:53.640 the muslims would take it out on their own christians as a sort of collective punishment

01:02:57.720 you know and uh right yeah that comes out a lot um so and while we're at it because someone's

01:03:03.400 going to say, well, what about the great Andalusia? And this is where, you know, this is where Jews

01:03:08.620 and Christians and Muslims prospered and they loved each other. This is one of the themes

01:03:12.080 that is, or apology as that often comes out. And all I have to say to that, well, the easy answer,

01:03:18.100 anyone who really wants to delve into this question, they should read the professor. He's a

01:03:23.160 friend of mine, Dario Fernandez Morera. He wrote a book called The Andalusian Myth, a whole book,

01:03:28.920 okay just tearing into this idea um but just to give you one example at the height of this golden

01:03:34.200 age you have what's called the the martyrs of cordoba which is something like 50 60 christians

01:03:40.440 who get boiled skinned alive impaled beheaded because they blasphemed against muhammad

01:03:47.000 okay so this is like you know they find um and let's not forget that even today people who

01:03:56.360 who blaspheme against muhammad um are murdered impaled beheaded whatever by the same radicals

01:04:06.560 so um the behavior and the violence that you're seeing today is not a bug it's a feature of jihad

01:04:16.840 which started 1400 years ago and it's just basically continued

01:04:21.500 finally they they found what they want to claim is this great time of tolerance and beauty and

01:04:26.920 yeah but they're acting like isis on steroids okay but we don't talk about that so my point

01:04:32.240 is just to show you that even when they try to find something it's if you really look into it

01:04:36.480 no it's the same as usual what they're really boasting about is it was so wealthy so andalusia

01:04:42.280 was wealthy and people um to the person in the chat who's saying that the sunni version is peaceful

01:04:47.780 but the Shia version is not. Listen, I'm not going to get into like your weird, like, you know,

01:04:53.460 arguments that you have with one another where you're like, oh, this group is real Islam. This

01:04:57.740 group is not real Islam. That's between you guys to sort out. But all I want to say is that ISIS

01:05:04.000 is the peaceful Sunni version of Islam. And it was ISIS terrorists who basically did the Yazidi

01:05:12.740 genocide so um i mean potato potato right potato potato it's all the same book we'll talk about

01:05:20.200 oh look at the backwards europe's they were you know whatever poor and look at this grand

01:05:24.600 civilization and lucia what they don't tell you is most of that wealth was because the muslims

01:05:29.260 were plundering it from the europeans including selling them on the slave market and plundering

01:05:34.780 them essentially and that's usually that has always traditionally been islam's capital other

01:05:40.540 people's stuff were they converting uh europeans to islam um yeah so when they conquered spain for

01:05:46.780 example i'm sure a lot of muslim native spaniards christians converted okay and was it did they bring

01:05:55.260 civilian civilization with them from well so that's the question was it was it a sort of military

01:06:01.900 nation of a kind of a band of warrior yeah that's you that's definitely how it was originally

01:06:08.460 initially and um so when you look sometimes they'll tell you well yeah but you know the middle

01:06:12.880 of the islamic world was so advanced when europe was in the dark ages okay so what they don't tell

01:06:17.940 you is one this is still an early time so that a lot of the people who you know were inventing

01:06:24.640 things or doing something you know avaros the philosopher or whatever a lot of these guys were

01:06:29.420 either christians or jews or or even more often they were just they had recently converted so the

01:06:36.040 you know he i this important person or whatever just became a muslim recently or he was the son

01:06:42.680 of a man who converted so a lot of times you know whatever credit is being allotted to islam was

01:06:47.480 really by jews and christians of the old civilizations doing what they've always been doing

01:06:52.120 okay interesting so in this in this version like so this was the older one right um because in his

01:07:00.200 new one in his new interview. He did say that the vast majority of people who were doing all of the

01:07:11.800 inventions and findings were Persian and they were Zoroastrian. However, this is an older interview

01:07:17.640 back from May. And he says Christian and Jewish, but he like provides no mention of Persians. So

01:07:27.560 So this is interesting.

01:07:29.540 Let's see if he's going to correct himself here or not,

01:07:32.300 because, again, this is an older one.

01:07:34.920 In the newer interview, he does say the proper history,

01:07:39.920 but this is weird.

01:07:41.380 But sort of Islam gives the credit.

01:07:43.700 But where Islam really takes over and then it really spreads

01:07:48.060 and everyone becomes Muslim, you see the opposite, okay?

01:07:51.560 In Spain, to go back to that, the Muslims were obligated,

01:07:56.660 especially when the Christians of the North were still weak, to wage two jihads every year.

01:08:01.300 And it was always devastating.

01:08:03.100 And they came back with the heads of, you know, they would decapitate.

01:08:06.560 They were obligated to wage.

01:08:08.380 By who?

01:08:09.440 By Islamic law.

01:08:11.020 The caliph said twice a year.

01:08:12.760 And there are Islamic teachings in the Sharia of you have to, when you can, you have to launch raids on the infidel.

01:08:19.200 You can't live in peace with them.

01:08:20.620 As long as you can, obviously, if you're weak, you shouldn't.

01:08:23.600 um so and very graphic to the point that until now there are portions of spain especially the

01:08:30.360 middle zone where the frontier that are completely destroyed and they still can't bring it back to

01:08:35.080 life it's just a complete war zone from all that okay wow yeah so um so that's that's the anyway

01:08:43.220 we're it's good we can kind of stop right here real quick because now we're getting to near the

01:08:47.140 crusade time and we haven't even gotten there but just think of for a while like all this is what

01:08:51.560 happened before the first crusade right yeah and when we talk about the first crusade you're going

01:08:56.280 to find out the problem is people present it in a vacuum they don't tell you what i just told you

01:09:00.060 and all of a sudden it's just these crazy catholics decided to go and like go abuse the

01:09:05.980 poor a guy like john esposito i don't know if you've heard of him he's a professor from

01:09:10.080 georgetown where i went and there's a quote which i quote so often that i think i've memorized it

01:09:15.120 from him and he says five centuries of peaceful coexistence elapsed between muslims and christians

01:09:20.760 until an imperial papal power play

01:09:24.120 led to a series of so-called holy wars

01:09:26.680 which have left an enduring legacy of mistrust

01:09:29.080 and resentment amongst Muslims.

01:09:31.180 In other words, before the First Crusade,

01:09:33.520 which was called in 1095,

01:09:35.060 I haven't even gotten there.

01:09:36.020 I've basically stopped around 800, right?

01:09:38.320 Yeah.

01:09:38.600 Before that, he's saying Muslims and Christians

01:09:40.820 lived in perfect peace and harmony.

01:09:42.780 Even though I just got done telling you

01:09:44.240 that Muslims conquered three quarters

01:09:45.760 of the Islamic world, of the Christian world

01:09:48.720 through sheer violence and bloodshed.

01:09:50.760 Okay. And that's what he, and the thing is, it's not just him. This is the official line amongst historians and academics. And he, I mentioned him because he was at, he was especially back in the day when I was going there, military analysts and politicians would consult him about questions about Islam.

01:10:08.680 and it's the same thing with uh people like karen armstrong you know she's a best-selling

01:10:12.560 author about religions you read what she says again she'll tell all she'll start off with the

01:10:17.380 crusades and just how evil it was and act like everything before it was nothing but muslims

01:10:22.480 being good to christians okay so one so these are what we would call you know omission um you know

01:10:28.440 um so so but at that point though do we need to go back to charlemagne to tie the bow on charlemagne

01:10:36.180 no no not really i mean you know he he's great for his own things charles the great i'll give

01:10:41.540 you one quick anecdote again because it shows you the games they play so uh what it's known that he

01:10:47.200 and harun al-rasheed the caliph the abbasid caliph had good relations okay and people use

01:10:53.540 this often as oh see and where was that caliph based uh baghdad okay yeah um the abbasid caliphate

01:10:59.820 and we're talking now you know the year 800 or a little after and people will always show you yes

01:11:05.940 see, it's, you know, Islam and Christians got along. You've got two emperors or a caliph and

01:11:10.620 an emperor, and they were friends, et cetera, et cetera. And they gave gifts to one, each other.

01:11:14.340 But when you dig in and you read the Chronicles, and I quoted, I'm pretty sure in Sword and

01:11:18.420 Cemetery, I discuss the chronicler of Charlemagne. He makes it perfectly clear that the reason

01:11:24.360 Charlemagne was being nice and reaching out to Hiron al-Rashid was almost like he was bribing

01:11:31.360 him to be good to the christians under his authority in egypt in iraq in in the islamic

01:11:36.920 world because there were so many christians so he says that the chronicler he says the reason he

01:11:41.640 sought out friendships was so he can make the plight of christians living in those regions

01:11:45.960 less and he can help them okay so you see how again that is omitted but we're told about oh

01:11:51.840 look they got along because muslims and christians always get along yeah that's i can leave it at

01:11:57.620 with charlemagne so uh then let's go to the crusades yeah this is quite a whistleblow tour

01:12:05.940 so it's 1095. so 1095 but we have to start a little earlier to give context so you know

01:12:11.780 everything i discussed was during the arab the rise of the arab empire and it went through

01:12:15.940 iterations you had the umayyads and then you had the abbasids which i just mentioned um and then

01:12:20.740 sometime after that you know the the the abbasids start importing turkic slaves and islamizing them

01:12:27.460 slave soldiers okay like the janissaries and the mamluks um and you know long story short before

01:12:33.660 long you know the turks become very muslim and they become sunni muslims um which is important

01:12:38.860 because we're going to talk a little bit about shias and um eventually they take over and they

01:12:43.900 still keep the caliphate the abbasid but he's more of a puppet figure and the real power is the seljuk

01:12:48.760 sultan all right now during this time especially from like 1050 to 1090 okay right before the first

01:12:55.660 Crusade, these Seljuks are running amok. Okay, so the persecution and the destruction of Christians

01:13:01.100 that I mentioned earlier under the Arabs, times 10. I mean, now it's just, it's horrific, okay?

01:13:07.900 They start in Armenia, Greater Armenia, which is, you know, what we would say Eastern Anatolia.

01:13:14.380 And according to the records, you know, I'm thinking of Matthew of Edessa, who was a

01:13:17.440 contemporary, they were just killing tens of thousands of Christians, Armenians, Greeks,

01:13:22.480 okay ended burning every church in ani which was the capital at the time of armenia it was known

01:13:28.280 as the city of a thousand one churches they ritually burned down every church destroyed

01:13:33.120 every crucifix i tell you that to also underscore because a lot of people will tell you okay the

01:13:37.340 turks you know it's people were warring it's different tribes and they try to um you know

01:13:41.400 minimize the religious element so that's why i'm telling you that in their own sources it's very

01:13:47.200 clear that they did what isis would do they symbolically were trying to denigrate christianity

01:13:52.460 They would destroy churches. They would take the greatest cross of the greatest church and send it as a war trophy to Baghdad, to the Caliph. So my point is, it wasn't just warfare. It had that jihadist ideological component, which again, historians like to just ignore as some sort of whatever, but it's in the sources.

01:14:11.220 and um they were also in the holy land you know you had pilgrims that were always going to the

01:14:16.500 holy land even though it was a hard venture and they would get persecuted even before that under

01:14:21.060 the arabs in the 7th 8th 9th centuries now the turks really took a new level and you know they

01:14:26.800 would attack the pilgrims they would extort even more money than they had to pay there's one

01:14:31.220 instant incident that happened in 1065 which really was a scandal they attacked a large

01:14:35.700 german pilgrimage and they gang raped a nun and you know made everyone watch it like really

01:14:41.560 horrific stuff they would go in churches and disembowel people and just smear the blood on

01:14:46.620 the altar again as a form of mockery okay so this is what this is what's building up towards the

01:14:52.700 first crusade and then um it really gets bad after the battle of manzikert which is one of my main

01:14:57.760 battles also in in my book sort of i mean to to be perfectly honest given the behavior that we are

01:15:08.360 seeing from all of these like islamic savages in western countries you know like they're they're

01:15:17.380 going to christmas markets and they're plotting terrorist attacks at christmas markets you know

01:15:23.720 they're going there with their like terrorist flags and, you

01:15:26.940 know, yelling, globalize the Intifada or whatever at

01:15:29.180 Christmas markets. I don't I don't understand how anyone can

01:15:34.600 be surprised. Because all you have to do is read history. And

01:15:40.440 you'll see that this sort of behavior is not a bug. It's a

01:15:47.000 feature of of this ideology right so it's it's not like what you're seeing today is new right

01:15:57.480 um this has been happening for 1400 years in scimitar and the christians again lose where

01:16:04.700 is that battle it's in manzikert which is actually close to armenia in asia minor um the roman

01:16:10.900 emperor at the time went trying again like yarmouth they went with a large army trying to

01:16:14.780 stop these the seljuk turks and they lost and after that they just completely ran amok all

01:16:20.620 westward and now they're attacking all asia minor of course i mean turkey what we call now it's

01:16:25.340 turkey because it got conquered during this time um and asia minor by the way you know so turkey

01:16:30.820 wait i have i have no idea why the youtube chat people are talking about robocop i missed that

01:16:37.660 part about robocop but i just want to say um i actually really enjoyed robocop um although i

01:16:43.420 haven't seen it in a long time so maybe my memories of robocop are not um you know because

01:16:51.540 i watched it as a kid but i always thought it was a really cool movie so when you hear turkey you

01:16:57.020 think okay it's a muslim nation this is this was such a christian nation that you know saint paul's

01:17:01.540 letters most of them go there asia minor yeah a lot of them and uh so now it's all conquered and

01:17:08.220 now they're right next to constantinople and they're on the verge of actually reaching and

01:17:12.140 getting into the european mainland and the emperor the roman emperor at the time alexis he calls for

01:17:18.080 aid from the franks and the you know the europe and he had friends there and you know some nobles

01:17:23.360 and they all got together and long story short pope pope urban the second at the council of

01:17:28.320 clermont in 1095 in november he basically stood up and he told everything that was happening he

01:17:33.660 mentioned everything i'm telling you all the desecrations of churches all the rape of women

01:17:38.240 and the forced Islamization of children

01:17:40.760 and the disemboweling of Christians,

01:17:42.920 very graphic stuff, okay?

01:17:44.720 And which is in a lot of sources.

01:17:46.220 So it's not, you know, one guy knitted up.

01:17:48.580 And that's it.

01:17:49.540 And they all cried out, Deus vult,

01:17:52.100 which Mr. Hexeth has a tattoo on,

01:17:54.920 which means God wills it, right?

01:17:56.720 And that was it.

01:17:57.400 They went.

01:17:59.180 So if you asked earlier historians,

01:18:02.220 you know, in the 1800s,

01:18:03.280 they would tell you the Crusades

01:18:04.160 were motivated by love.

01:18:05.920 You know, they were actually,

01:18:07.080 and a lot of the,

01:18:07.580 it comes out in some of the sources where the crusaders were moved by christ's injunction to

01:18:11.080 love your fellow man as much as yourself and to love god so they were loving god because they

01:18:15.740 wanted to go and liberate the holy sepulchre they wanted to liberate the holy land which was very

01:18:20.960 important you know again this is something modern people don't understand but um place was important

01:18:26.140 you know holy sacred land was something that was you know very important so they wanted to go and

01:18:32.280 liberate it from muslim control and they wanted to also protect fellow christians

01:18:36.840 and now you know your average person you hear the word crusade it's such a diabolical evil thing

01:18:42.680 evil venture but that marks an interesting turning point even from the christian point

01:18:46.120 of view from this let's say turn the other cheek mentality to we're going to protect our fellow

01:18:52.120 christians by killing others yeah so the the whole issue you know this goes back to the concept of

01:18:58.600 just war which really one of the the name that always gets thrown out there and it's it's the

01:19:03.320 chief articulator they would say and proponent is augustine saint augustine who lived in the fourth

01:19:07.880 century okay um or it was a fifth century so he's way before all this and to him and to almost every

01:19:15.160 other doctor of the church and theologian it was okay to fight back and you know they would cite

01:19:20.200 things like um you know roman centurion comes to jesus and uh jesus heals his servant and then

01:19:27.320 then jesus you know what does jesus do when he does a miracle for someone he tells him to repent

01:19:32.660 right change your way he didn't tell this guy hey put your sword away stop killing i mean this guy

01:19:37.460 was a centurion he saw he oversaw the bloodshed a lot of bloodshed jesus didn't say anything to

01:19:43.560 him okay so also john the baptist you know when people came to him and a bunch of soldiers came

01:19:49.340 to him saying what must we do he didn't tell them leave the army he said don't don't be content with

01:19:53.640 your pay okay so a lot of these were understood by early church theologians as justifying just

01:19:59.360 war theory as long as the war is not about you know conquests and enforcing whatever my will

01:20:05.160 on you if i'm defending my land that was 100 christian okay and so and this is why okay so

01:20:12.220 if you don't understand everything i've been saying if you didn't hear this then how is crusades just

01:20:17.180 war because what you see is a bunch of europeans going to muslim territory what's just in that but

01:20:22.760 But if you know the truth, which is, well, that was Christian territory, and they were

01:20:26.240 killing Christians still and destroying Christian lands and holy sacred places, then it did

01:20:31.600 become part of the just war theory.

01:20:33.240 You see what I'm saying?

01:20:34.240 But it's 300 years since that had been Muslim.

01:20:37.100 Yeah.

01:20:38.100 But I mean, to their thinking.

01:20:39.100 To that point of view.

01:20:40.100 Yeah.

01:20:41.100 And it was still full of Christians.

01:20:42.100 And, you know, I mean, I don't think they went by, what's it, like statues of limitations.

01:20:46.640 Right.

01:20:47.640 They didn't think that way.

01:20:48.640 You know?

01:20:49.640 So in their mind, they still rationalized it.

01:20:52.580 But specifically, it was because they were killing Christians and attacking Christians' places.

01:20:58.000 So that was it.

01:20:59.300 Even if it wasn't Christian beforehand, I think they would have just war theory would cover the logic.

01:21:03.880 Why are you killing innocent Christians?

01:21:05.560 So this is the first of several crusades.

01:21:08.300 Yeah.

01:21:09.000 Can you take me?

01:21:09.960 I'm actually not too good on crusade history.

01:21:12.020 Can you take me through them?

01:21:14.140 Sure.

01:21:15.160 So the first crusade is the most successful one.

01:21:19.420 It's arguably the only successful one.

01:21:22.140 Because they got what they wanted. They went through, the sufferings they went through are

01:21:26.560 amazing, but they liberated various Christian regions and cities, Antioch, Edessa, and most

01:21:32.300 importantly, Jerusalem, because that's what they really wanted. The Holy Sepulchre or the Church

01:21:36.620 of the Resurrection was this massive complex that was built atop what is believed to have been

01:21:41.880 Jesus's burial. Not just his burial, it was actually a humongous structure built during

01:21:47.720 in Constantine's time, in the 300s, that in this church, you actually had where Jesus

01:21:53.380 was betrayed, the Garden of Gethsemane, and then you also had where he was crucified,

01:21:58.640 and you have where he was buried, okay, and resurrected. And a quick anecdote, which I

01:22:04.760 almost forgot, but is pivotal to what we're talking about. In the year 1009, okay, so we

01:22:08.560 got to go back in time a little bit. And just, again, what I'm going to tell you is going to,

01:22:12.460 again, underscore just how Christian that region was and underscore the sorts of persecution that

01:22:16.880 went but there was a fatimid caliph in egypt and the fatimids were shia okay and his name is hakim

01:22:22.200 and this guy okay they call him the mad caliph because they want to they want to pretend that

01:22:29.780 what he's did what i'm going to tell you was of the product of a maniac right here and there's

01:22:34.360 no rationale under him he had 30 000 churches in egypt and in greater syria destroyed okay so first

01:22:41.820 of all 30 000 that's a humongous number of churches in an area that i thought was muslim

01:22:46.200 okay um and the source for this which a lot of western people try to ignore is an arabic muslim

01:22:52.000 source al makrizi all right and he says 30 000 and people say no no that's a mistake he put one

01:22:57.280 more one two one too many zeros you know he meant 300 and historians all write oh 300 churches but

01:23:02.720 he wrote 30 000 including the holy sepulcher the one that i'm discussing he had it destroyed

01:23:07.620 and pulverized and then it was later rebuilt a smaller version but the one that was that i was

01:23:12.560 telling you about by constantine he had it raised to the ground this most important place um for

01:23:17.900 christianity as far as my geography of jerusalem goes that must have been huge because yeah where

01:23:22.900 i know the the rock where the crucifix was the distance of that where it is believed yeah you're

01:23:29.120 talking about the rock with the round stone that there's two places that people believe where christ

01:23:33.660 was um uh buried the the one you're talking about i think is the later one mostly protestants

01:23:39.520 actually except catholics and and orthodox believe it was somewhere which was actually

01:23:44.240 close okay yeah okay we're the crusades the first one is the most successful right and then

01:23:51.360 how did the first crusades end yeah let me just finish the fatima thing because this is very

01:23:55.200 important because it ties up to what we're talking about so 30 000 churches destroyed

01:23:59.040 and again i want to remind you you have these people who are telling us five centuries of

01:24:02.800 peaceful coexistence were between muslims um

01:24:12.320 yeah absolutely absolutely um i'm always happy to um do crossovers and um you know work work

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01:24:29.200 I feel terrible, but I've actually received a lot of requests from different people across

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01:24:48.760 track of all of it because right now I'm really working on sort of building my channel and I'm

01:24:57.940 also working on my website to kind of like have a website. So I don't really have like official

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01:25:22.680 way, at least when people reach out to me, um, they'll know how to get ahold of me because right

01:25:28.580 now people are like trying to DM me, um, or, you know, whatever. And I just, I get like so many

01:25:35.260 DMs on Instagram and Tik TOK and X that, um, I can't keep track, but I definitely do want to

01:25:42.100 do collabs with a lot of people. There's a lot of people who are interested, um, definitely on,

01:25:48.800 on my radar for sure 100% but thank you so much for the suggestion and thank you for um the support

01:25:58.340 I think you just became a channel member during this live stream so I really appreciate that

01:26:03.000 appreciate the super comment um I actually am I just opened a rumble account um just like a few

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01:26:32.000 am live streaming this on Rumble as well, I literally have like zero people watching this.

01:26:37.780 So, but, uh, I'm, I'm a little bit late to the rumble game and I haven't even uploaded all of my videos. So I have to go back, um, to like, I basically just need some time where I just go to rumble and all the videos that I've already uploaded to YouTube, I need to like re upload, um, to, to rumble. And I really need to work on building that, um, building it up. But, um, yeah, no, thank you for the suggestion. I would definitely be interested, um, in, in doing collabs with, with other people.

01:27:07.780 um i just need a little bit of time to kind of like get everything set up and organized and so

01:27:13.220 that there's also a way for people to get a hold of me where i actually um get all all the emails

01:27:20.660 and all the contact requests but no thank you for that thank you for the support and for the

01:27:25.580 suggestion and christians what i just told you is 1009 this is the time frame they're talking about

01:27:31.140 30 000 churches were completely destroyed okay and these people are writing books and saying

01:27:36.640 everything was fine until the first crusade you see how they present things in a vacuum

01:27:40.720 they don't want you to they want you to think that the christians were the aggressors they had

01:27:45.860 no reason to do what they did okay all right so then okay the crusades you have various

01:27:51.680 what gives rise to them is essentially then the muslims start winning back and conquering so around

01:27:57.340 1144 you have the second crusade because some muslim sultan destroys edessa on christmas day

01:28:03.980 which was a christian principality and uh it was full of armenians and greeks

01:28:08.520 and again to give you an idea and the sources when the franks and the crusaders came and

01:28:13.240 liberated these regions which had a lot of indigenous christians armenians and greeks and

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01:29:47.780 i'm sorry that rumble is a little lonely right now i promise that i will work on um i'll work

01:29:53.720 on building my rumble channel i promise i promise but uh whoever that one mvp is on rumble like you

01:30:01.060 are the real i have no idea who it is i can't see um i just see that it's like one viewer here so

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01:30:14.040 so all right the sources talk about how they threw themselves and kissed their hands and feet

01:30:19.500 now why would they do that i thought i thought they lived in harmony with their muslim over

01:30:23.380 why would they want these strange men from europe because they were all christians okay and they

01:30:28.780 were being persecuted um so in 10 uh 1144 the edessa is completely ransacked and destroyed

01:30:34.960 and just again like very sadistic stuff is happening to the women and children and it gave

01:30:42.140 rise to a new crusade okay and that one was abysmal failure you know they got nothing they

01:30:47.320 just died everyone who came it was uh under king louis and conrad i believe the german emperor

01:30:53.460 completely destroyed and then you know things kind of status quo and you still have jerusalem

01:30:59.240 and you still have antioch and other places and then you get the rise of saladin okay and he's

01:31:04.180 very as we all know very popular and uh uh you know he he actually um conquers jerusalem all

01:31:11.480 right he had the the major battle the battle of hatin the two horns which is again my in my bug

01:31:16.880 sword and scimitar has a whole chapter in 1187 he wins and he beats a massive crusader army of the

01:31:23.140 kingdom of jerusalem and after that they all fall like dominoes he conquers jerusalem he conquers a

01:31:27.820 lot of christian territories and there's only a few left and that's what calls the third crusade

01:31:32.220 king richard is of course the one whose spears had it but also king philip as well from france

01:31:38.220 um and barbarossa the german emperor who unfortunately brought the biggest army but

01:31:43.460 then died on his way he fell in the river he was very old um but you know and very and king

01:31:49.720 richard is very impressive i have a whole chapter dedicated to him and the third crusade and

01:31:54.220 defenders of the west because he's when you read about this guy in the actual sources it's amazing

01:31:59.260 apparently he was a giant okay something like six six or you know because oh really yeah and

01:32:04.740 that time and and the sources just describe him always leading his men being the center of the

01:32:10.600 charge the first one in decapitating slaughtering everyone and the muslims themselves actually in

01:32:16.740 their sources talk about him like that so he was uh quite the formidable character uh very

01:32:22.400 interesting anyway the third crusade was kind of uh not a total victory but not a total loss

01:32:28.300 like him and salad and made a treaty so christians can go back to jerusalem but it was still under

01:32:33.580 islamic control and and and you know whatever and um then you have the fourth crusade which is

01:32:39.280 basically which people love to point fingers at because it's where the crusaders go and sack

01:32:44.840 constantinople right christians attacking christians and that has its own story and

01:32:49.940 different versions of why that happened um but before we get into that i'm just remembering

01:32:53.700 again very important point about saladin before we leave saladin um now this guy have you you've

01:32:59.700 heard how magnanimous saladin was right and for because i follow this and i read a lot of books

01:33:05.700 okay about this he's always held up as this great magnanimous and very tolerant uh you know sultan

01:33:11.940 until today people say christians can learn from him and his magnanimity etc etc and he's to me and

01:33:19.660 i made a video about him you know he's the epitome of fake history because why did people say that so

01:33:24.780 okay if you look in the sources especially the so here's what they'll tell you when saladin

01:33:30.780 conquered jerusalem which he did uh in 1187 he allowed the christians to leave peacefully and he

01:33:36.860 was very magnanimous and they always contrast it with the first crusade uh in 1099 when the

01:33:42.300 christians conquered jerusalem apparently there was a bloodbath okay they killed everyone in sight

01:33:47.340 okay so they use this now what they don't tell you okay is one according to the muslim sources

01:33:54.380 he was like a fanatic jihadist who did nothing but like but persecute anyone who went against

01:33:59.660 islamic law in egypt he had the christians the cops persecuted he had their churches tarred for

01:34:05.980 what did they do right um they're not crusaders and then uh he had after the battle of han a group

01:34:12.780 the group the knights of the temple in the hospital he gave them a choice to convert to islam

01:34:17.100 or be beheaded they all said no and he had something like 300 of them decapitated in fact

01:34:21.960 going back to how isis you know likes to live off history when you see isis the islamic state and

01:34:27.100 those videos they made of copta christians or whoever and they have them in the orange jumpsuit

01:34:31.400 and they push them over and carve their heads off that is directly lifted from what saladin had

01:34:36.460 done to these christians at the battle of hand exactly that's how it's described and they're

01:34:41.020 emulating it okay and uh you know also he did all sorts of other nasty stuff his his dying wish was

01:34:47.980 to not just get rid of the crusaders in the holy land but to invade europe until no one lived who

01:34:53.340 didn't believe in allah i mean this doesn't sound like a magnanimous tolerant guy to me you know

01:34:57.820 what i mean okay um and then in even what he did in in um in jerusalem this supposedly magnanimous

01:35:04.540 gesture he no bloodbath if you look at the sources what really happened is they told him he was

01:35:09.760 besieging. And he said, okay. And they tried to surrender. And he said, no, I'm going to kill

01:35:13.600 every last one of you. But then they said, okay, we're going to destroy Al-Aqsa Mosque because

01:35:17.620 they had possession of, we're going to destroy all the holy sites of Islam and we're going to

01:35:21.380 kill our hostages. So he finally agreed to let them go if they can pay a ransom. Okay. And the

01:35:28.180 ones who couldn't, which was something like 8,000 or 16,000, I have the number written down

01:35:33.120 and mostly women and children, because they were poor, were consigned to slavery. Okay. So it's

01:35:38.860 like but he's being used today as this paragon of virtue and magnanimity okay and people believe

01:35:45.900 that and where does it come from it actually comes from sir walter scott's novels okay yeah he

01:35:51.640 created this chivalrous kind of saladin and all of a sudden that's what people believe as if it's

01:35:56.500 real history okay so anyway i just wanted to emphasize that because uh you know saladin is

01:36:01.060 a very popular figure when we talk about the crusades and so much of what is said about him

01:36:04.980 is just, you know, overdone just so you can, so they can put up a Muslim on a pedestal and try to

01:36:10.980 shame Christians with. But when you look at the reality, it's just not there. And where did the

01:36:15.260 Jews fit in all of this? Were they, I understood that many of them were killed. Yeah. Yeah. So

01:36:20.820 the Jews, you know, even before, I mean, and here's again, one of those things where people

01:36:25.100 try to demonize the crusades because they attacked and killed Jews and they did. But, you know,

01:36:30.340 the Jews were being attacked and killed by Christians even before that. But what happened

01:36:33.860 is um you know a lot of it was mostly the peasant crusaders not the actual knights and you know the

01:36:40.100 formal armies but a lot of them would go and you know they'd get riled up and say why are we

01:36:44.980 traveling all this distance during their long trek to kill infidels who hate jesus when we have them

01:36:50.420 right here the jews who killed him and they would rile themselves up and they'd go attack and kill

01:36:55.620 them there's some terrible pogroms yeah yeah but you know it's also important to know that the church

01:37:00.920 and the leaders were against it.

01:37:03.440 Against the pogroms.

01:37:04.360 Yeah, and they would issue edicts saying

01:37:06.780 you have to leave the Jews alone

01:37:07.900 and they would come in their defense.

01:37:09.600 So it was almost like what always happens.

01:37:11.840 You have the rabble, you know,

01:37:13.480 but the actual church policy was not to persecute them.

01:37:16.520 And the crusader policy was not to persecute them

01:37:18.960 or do any of that.

01:37:20.140 But of course, you're going to have the bad apples

01:37:22.420 who act on whatever impulse they want

01:37:24.360 to just plunder them on whatever pretext.

01:37:27.840 So at this point, though,

01:37:29.400 we still have the muslims in spain right the crusades have the the rest of europe then is

01:37:36.000 christian right and wait someone just said sound are we having sound issues

01:37:44.520 no you oh you retracted amir did you accidentally push the mute button is that what happened

01:37:53.420 all right okay i don't think we're having sound issues okay all right uh the the area that is now

01:38:02.380 israel lebanon that's kind of going back and forth no that's under muslim the holy land yeah at this

01:38:07.100 point now it's under muslim control the so the crusaders finally get expelled in 1292 okay that's

01:38:13.160 the end of it uh after the fall of acre or acre however you want to pronounce it that was the

01:38:17.460 final stronghold i think the mods were just um testing me to see if i'm paying attention to

01:38:23.880 the live stream chat or not so there you go i'm guys i'm paying attention i might not be looking

01:38:29.040 but i'm paying attention i'm telling you i'm like a i'm like a master when it comes to to multitasking

01:38:34.900 so yeah after saladin and then the mamluks came and and they started conquering more and then by

01:38:44.240 1292 there you have no more crusader presence in the holy land okay so i'm we'll come back to what

01:38:51.380 happens next because there's some important events particularly there's two sieges on vienna

01:38:54.660 by the ottomans and i i came to ask you about constantinople um so to the person that said

01:39:00.920 i'm a jewish zionist i am a zionist but i'm not actually jewish i'm iranian so um yeah i don't

01:39:08.520 know i don't know i don't know if that's meant to be an insult because like that's not an insult

01:39:12.260 to me whatsoever. Um, I love Jews. I've been to Israel, um, beautiful country, beautiful culture,

01:39:20.160 beautiful tradition, beautiful religion. I love like Jewish food. Um, guys, I get invited to so

01:39:26.500 many Shabbat dinners and I love Shabbat dinners because it's like the best food, the best wine,

01:39:32.480 the best conversations. So, um, I'm not Jewish, but I guess you could say like I'm Jew-ish,

01:39:40.840 you know what I mean? Jewish. Um, because, um, the, the Jewish community has just welcomed me

01:39:47.240 so much. So yeah, like, uh, there you go. I mean, I don't understand why people come in this channel

01:39:54.160 and then they call me like a Zionist as if like, that's an insult. A hundred percent. I'm a Zionist.

01:39:59.520 I do believe in the right of, uh, the Jewish people to have self-determination. You know,

01:40:04.760 I believe that Israel belongs to the Jewish people. Palestine is literally fake. I don't

01:40:11.500 even think like Gaza, like, I don't believe in the two state solution. I think the two state

01:40:17.020 solution already happened when you had Jordan that was created. And then, you know, Israel was

01:40:25.320 carved out, right? So the two state solution is Jordan and Israel. And then for some reason,

01:40:32.160 you know the the jihadis aren't happy they just want to eradicate all of israel so they're going

01:40:37.920 after the rest of israel but uh i think judea and samaria belongs to israel um and i think you know

01:40:45.440 gaza should go back to israel as well right and then if if the jihadis don't like it they can go

01:40:50.160 back to egypt or they can go to jordan you know where they belong so there you go that's um my

01:40:56.240 thoughts on it as well or as we know it now istanbul um but you've mentioned a few times

01:41:03.120 as you're discussing this that historians like to ignore this historians like to ignore that or they

01:41:09.600 paint this one-sided picture and the way you actually describe it is that the one-sided

01:41:14.640 picture they paint is the opposite of what is true i'm curious about what you think the motivation is

01:41:20.400 by those historians i think there's several i think today it's just it's it's kind of you know

01:41:24.640 know it's snowballed and it's just that's the narrative so if you're just a moderately if you

01:41:28.720 go to college today and you're a history major and you're studying this field you're not going

01:41:33.120 to read primary sources which you should that used to be the original thing you're supposed to but

01:41:37.480 go read this you know three four books by the secondary secondary source would be you know

01:41:43.680 like me okay a modern person who supposedly consults the primary sources and then you know

01:41:49.080 puts it into a book form and you read it so most people will read that and those books now you know

01:41:54.160 they've been going and the question is why but have painted a completely different picture you

01:41:59.340 know i've got like sir stephen runciman for example who's the he wrote like four or five

01:42:05.100 volumes of the crusades and it was considered you know the bestseller etc etc i think came out maybe

01:42:10.220 in the 50s or 60s and now historians will tell you yeah this guy really had an axe to grind you

01:42:16.380 know and he was just dedicated to making the christians look bad and making the muslims look

01:42:20.800 good right and how do we know this because the ones who have taken the time to consult the primary

01:42:25.320 sources are realizing what he's saying is not there and oftentimes the opposite is there so

01:42:30.120 why okay the reason why um i would argue today it's because of what we um so wait i see this

01:42:39.160 comment here so bacterian presbytist um thank you for the kind words i would not make a very good

01:42:47.700 politician um in iran only because my farsi is not the great like i can speak farsi you know like i

01:42:54.900 can speak persian i can read write understand my conversational persian is fantastic no issues there

01:43:01.540 um but when it comes to like you know professional persian um i wouldn't be able to i wouldn't be

01:43:08.420 able to do it i would like you know half my speeches would be in english so um no i don't i

01:43:14.100 don't i can't see myself being a politician um in a free iran but uh yeah but thank you for the

01:43:22.440 kind words i appreciate that um so the person who asked if i am mossad um 100 i am mossad

01:43:31.760 um i'm actually a mossad agent i'm here to distract all of you guys so yeah definitely

01:43:38.420 definitely 100% massage political correctness it's this desire honestly okay really to bring

01:43:45.020 it down where you know the narrative has to always be this christians whites are bad non-christians

01:43:51.640 brown people are good okay this is it that's the mantra and everything has to conform to this

01:43:56.320 why okay we can get into that but that has been the case for i would say a long time since the

01:44:02.500 60s okay um and this sort of self-hatred thing has arose but you know there's also other reasons

01:44:10.160 you know academic reasons for example you want to be a historian okay the the thing that would

01:44:15.180 make you popular is you come up with a new interpretation so for the longest time the

01:44:20.760 interpretation was what i'm telling you but if i can come up with something clever like oh wait

01:44:24.980 actually and lucio is a great beacon of light and learning okay wow then i've made a new contribution

01:44:30.320 especially if it's what people want to hear people want to hear that narrative for the

01:44:34.360 reasons i just explained they don't want to hear about okay christians and muslims fighting

01:44:37.920 someone said we're all massad 100 literally every single one of us is a massad agent guy

01:44:44.260 everyone in the chat is massad massad is watching um this entire channel is funded by massad um

01:44:52.540 yeah so we're all massad here every single person is massad like this is basically an episode of

01:44:59.480 tehran because muslims are aggressors etc so all of these um but you know again today in the current

01:45:07.160 climate it's just you know what i'm saying right now i don't care how my books sword and scimitar

01:45:12.200 is like over a thousand citations end notes to show you where i got my stuff because i already

01:45:16.700 knew i'm going to be attacked where'd you get that where'd you get that so the facts are there

01:45:22.000 but you know people just they still till this very day want to believe that narrative okay which and

01:45:28.180 you see it everywhere manifestations of what i just said this narrative even if you're watching

01:45:32.020 the news oh wait what wait wait wait what what is this okay sorry i saw a comment here wait where'd

01:45:38.660 it go um so crazy old biker says a rumble search for you results in dozens of different accounts

01:45:48.020 that feature me oh these people are all making money off of my videos on rumble and i only have

01:45:56.740 five followers on rumble oh my god okay i really need to like go and build my rumble channel here

01:46:07.860 because uh yeah um okay so someone said oh oh jewish samantha does that mean i get 7k for

01:46:16.680 being in the live chat yeah so everyone here because you're all massad agents um you all get

01:46:23.320 like 7k. So just, uh, you know, wait for that. Your, your check is coming in the mail from,

01:46:30.520 from massage. So there you go. There you go. Um, because I'm like, because I'm the main

01:46:36.180 massage agent, um, I actually get $7,000 per minute. Um, so, you know, $7,000 per minute for

01:46:44.640 me, but you guys get 7,000 for, um, appearing. Yes. It, the 7,000 was promised to us, like,

01:46:51.760 you know, 3,000 years ago, um, according to the jihadis. So there you go. Um,

01:46:59.320 yeah. Thank you, Massad. And there's some kind of incident or criminal activity in between a

01:47:06.620 black man and a white man or something. It has to be spun a certain way. So of course it's been

01:47:11.380 going on with history because, you know, history, uh, people talk about fake news and it's very

01:47:15.840 important obviously, but to me, fake history is more important because fake news is ephemeral

01:47:19.980 and it creates its mischief, but then it vanishes

01:47:23.000 and we move on to something else.

01:47:24.520 Fake history, you create overarching narratives

01:47:27.400 and basically paradigms where you sift reality through.

01:47:32.760 So if I've created a fake history where Muslim-Christian relations

01:47:37.360 are such that Christians were the evil aggressors

01:47:39.760 and Muslims were the poor guys, well, of course,

01:47:42.480 now when you talk about anything in the modern era

01:47:44.360 and you see it through that lens, it all makes perfect sense

01:47:47.040 and gives you more reason to despise the christians and the westerners etc and that's what's been

01:47:52.320 going on for a long time which is why i think when i discuss these things guys your comments

01:47:57.360 you're making me laugh like this is a very serious topic the guy's talking about how

01:48:01.920 muslims were persecuting people and then i see your comments and i laugh oh my gosh okay

01:48:12.560 that's what i get that's what i get my fault it's my fault you know the number one response

01:48:16.640 I get from people is like, I'm embarrassed. I didn't know this. You know, why didn't I

01:48:19.920 learn this in school? Well, this is why you did it because there's a narrative.

01:48:25.040 Fake news has a political agenda. Then fake history, it's more profound, but it's still

01:48:32.240 somewhat political, right? Of course, it is political and it manifests itself ultimately

01:48:36.160 in a political way, but it's very subtle and it's harder to prove. So fake news, we can argue, oh,

01:48:41.280 here's evidence that this guy didn't say whatever. But fake history, you know, who's going to take

01:48:45.600 the time to delve into the primary sources like let's say i did and i did it because i love it and

01:48:50.400 i was at the library congress and i had access to all those books and i know a couple of languages

01:48:54.800 you know so it's not that easy to do that and you're just gonna go but if i go to the bookstores

01:48:59.440 barnes and nobles for example um and i go to the middle east or a history section all the books

01:49:05.120 and i'm familiar with them they're all the politically correct sorry someone asked me how

01:49:09.600 my hair is so fluffy um the answer is massad my hair is fluffy because because of massad

01:49:16.800 correct books that say the exact opposite of what i'm telling you yeah so if you mean well and you

01:49:20.720 want to read a book and you educate yourself and you go to barnes and nobles you're just gonna

01:49:24.800 you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna learn the exact opposite and that's why i always find it

01:49:28.560 funny that you're better off being ignorant because if you're ignorant if you're an unlearned

01:49:33.600 learned person maybe just dropped a high school and you didn't go to college you're probably

01:49:37.760 be going to have a better understanding of what we're talking about from an instinctual level,

01:49:41.100 at least. But if you go, the further you go into higher education and formally study these things,

01:49:46.400 what happens is you learn the exact opposite, but then you're proud of it. And you're so

01:49:51.880 zealous about what you know, because I got a degree. I know this. You don't know what you're

01:49:56.020 talking about. But what happened is you've been indoctrinated in lies.

01:49:58.880 Yeah. So look, you've mentioned a couple of books that have changed the popular understanding of,

01:50:04.060 let's say the Crusades and these various other moments. But could you pinpoint to a specific

01:50:10.180 moment in time when the narrative changed from, as you described earlier, there was a common

01:50:16.340 understanding in Europe about Islam aggression in Europe to now where most people have no idea?

01:50:24.680 Is there a moment in time where that-

01:50:26.560 The transition phase, yeah, which is a good question. So, okay, honestly, it all really

01:50:31.460 starts with, and a lot of people don't like to hear this, but with the Protestant Reformation,

01:50:35.980 okay? Because with the break, with the Catholic Church, was a need to, you know, I don't want to

01:50:41.060 use the word demonize, but whatever, you know, justify the break. And so anything the Catholic

01:50:46.360 Church did became jaundiced and kind of bad, including the Crusades. And, you know, the

01:50:51.540 Protestants made good points, you know, indulgences, et cetera, et cetera. I get that. That makes sense.

01:50:55.520 But you got this move now where, like, whatever we can, you know, however we can make Catholics

01:51:00.520 look bad we should and that was you're making me laugh and then people who aren't like looking at

01:51:10.280 the chat and the replay they're gonna think that i'm laughing at what raymond is saying

01:51:15.240 um oh my gosh okay so massad is gonna make goldie like one of those rich persians

01:51:25.720 sure yeah

01:51:31.480 guys what if we started here we've started like oh my gosh people people are going to take us

01:51:36.760 seriously like i guarantee you some people are going to like take clips of what i'm saying now

01:51:41.160 and they're going to be like see see she's massage she's massad so there you go

01:51:48.680 the beginning so martin luther he condemned the crusades and

01:51:54.040 and he condemned when the turks were actually invading vienna or coming towards austria

01:52:00.520 he actually said, don't fight back. And he said, this is God's way of punishing the Catholics in

01:52:05.320 church until they got close to where he was. And he actually changed his tomb literally and wrote

01:52:10.160 on you saying, no, you can't fight back. It is just war. I'm not lying to you. This is true.

01:52:15.000 I can give you the evidence. So it really starts with a product. And look, I'm not people,

01:52:21.540 I'm not, I don't want to get into the, I'm not a theologian. I'm not arguing who's right

01:52:24.580 theologically. I'm just saying as a historical development, the rift between in Christendom,

01:52:29.560 between protestants and catholics created a sort of hatred towards the crusades okay because it was

01:52:35.320 another thing to point at and say oh look and then and they also this is also the beginning

01:52:40.560 of the rehabilitation of muslims in the eyes of europeans because if muslims are the enemies of

01:52:45.500 the bad guys the catholics they must be good okay and this is why till today it's actually

01:52:50.320 protestant nations that are suffering from islam because they're the ones who have completely

01:52:55.180 open their doors and who who follow this logic which is muslims are great it's the catholics

01:53:00.260 you got to worry about okay or at least elements of it still subconsciously maybe exist um that's

01:53:05.560 why you have muslims running amok in scandinavia in sweden in the uk and in germany um then but

01:53:11.840 then you look at countries like uh you know hungary and poland which is you know hungary i

01:53:15.780 know is catholic and so is poland and you don't see that sort of thing as much of course and i

01:53:21.780 think that's a uh so anyway that's the beginning of it i would say the protestant reformation and

01:53:25.880 again this isn't me i'm not talking about theology i'm talking about historical development which is

01:53:30.340 normal of course um and then you get the enlightenment right and with the enlightenment

01:53:35.340 all of a sudden now now there's a kind of it's not that the muslims are good but yeah these

01:53:39.900 christians are fanatics this is now edward gibbon for example um is and voltaire and these guys

01:53:45.740 it so now once again the crusaders and their cause looks ridiculous and they're stupid and

01:53:50.920 what were they fighting over this is dumb etc okay and then you move on until you come to sort

01:53:55.460 of the modern you know 19th century 1800s now you have serious scholars orientalists and um you know

01:54:01.220 they just approach it in a very cold fashion that are i actually like their writings they're

01:54:05.600 objective okay and they're looking at the sources and um they're actually better than the other guys

01:54:10.700 but you still have the influence of the sort of you know the protestant disdain for crusades and

01:54:15.600 you have the you know the enlightenment disdain as well um and then you come into the modern era

01:54:20.340 where again i think it's this need you know where it comes from you know i want to i think sometime

01:54:28.820 in the 60s you get this move this very anti-christian thing where you know christians and

01:54:33.000 europeans and westerners are the root of all problems okay and of course this is how the

01:54:37.180 crusades fit so now it's being taught that way and you know we're gravitating back so now it's

01:54:42.880 worse than ever because what they're doing is they're literally playing with history i already

01:54:47.740 gave you an example of all the horrors that happened before the first crusade in one year

01:54:51.840 30,000 churches were destroyed this is say nothing of the killings of christians under

01:54:56.020 hakim b'amrallah the fatimid caliph or all the other ones and they ignore all that intentionally

01:55:02.160 and just tell you oh crusades just happened out of the blue five centuries of peace down the toilet

01:55:07.400 and now and now muslims can you imagine that when 9-11 and all that happened and until now when

01:55:14.920 there's an islamic terror attack in europe they try to actually associate it to the crusades and

01:55:20.120 say well muslims are still upset about that they have grievances okay and they don't i mean because

01:55:25.600 muslims are not idiots they actually respect the crusades in the sense that oh okay there was a

01:55:30.820 time when christians fought back oh okay good for them but but i mean everything is being done

01:55:37.040 you know to just rewire everything so it fits that narrative so let's no it's not it's not

01:55:44.220 noodles guys it's a poke poke bowl so it's um salmon with um some brown rice and mixed veggies

01:55:53.140 so there you go and yeah i needed a refill on my bubbly so now i have mango flavor so

01:56:01.580 but i was listening because i have my bluetooth headphones in here so there we go let's go back

01:56:08.860 to the history of it, both sides of Europe at the sort of mid-second millennia, we have

01:56:16.040 the Inquisition happening in Spain, and we have the Ottomans charging, well, not only

01:56:23.640 Constantinople, but right up as far as Vienna. Maybe we start with the Inquisition.

01:56:29.020 Sure. So, and here I'm going to talk about the Inquisition, but you're going to start

01:56:33.440 finding something interesting here. It's like all these major historical epics and, you

01:56:38.680 know developments that we talk about you're going to find islam snuck in somehow including in the

01:56:44.300 inquisition okay so the inquisition to us is you know oh just crazy fanatical christians torturing

01:56:50.500 everyone to get the fact etc and there's elements of that as well okay but it really started why

01:56:55.300 did it start in spain because it was part of the war with islam and after the the reconquista now

01:57:00.620 is finally coming to an end and all the muslims have been beaten no it's not pop it's um it's like

01:57:08.400 sparkling water. It's basically carbonated water, um, different flavors. So this one is mango,

01:57:14.620 um, no sugar. So it's just carbonated water, um, fizzy water. I, I prefer this over alcohol. So

01:57:24.580 yeah, this is what I drink at night. Is it, is, is that what like Americans call it? Seltzer?

01:57:31.160 um I guess I don't know I just I just call it like carbonated soda yes yes it is Mossad

01:57:42.300 fizzy mango yes so bubbly bubbly is Mossad okay so yeah so it's it's a seltzer yeah I

01:57:47.700 drink seltzers um I'm addicted to to seltzers I love them um my my wine fridge has no alcohol

01:57:55.780 no wine in it it's literally full of seltzers so yeah far south they're all now in granada

01:58:01.960 southern tip of spain right and this is under ferdinand isabella right um the unification of

01:58:07.760 spain as well so now they're all holed up but they're about half a million muslims okay and

01:58:12.640 initially the christians allowed them to keep their religion and keep their sharia and live

01:58:18.260 but whenever they could the muslims would basically try to subvert an attack including

01:58:22.980 with Barbary pirates and with the Ottomans. They were like a fifth column and they would attack

01:58:27.960 Christians whenever they could and kill them, et cetera. So it came down to, you either become

01:58:32.080 a Christian or you leave, go back to North Africa where your ancestors came from. And so now why

01:58:38.920 become a Christian, right? Now today it's seen as, oh, look at these intolerant, crazy Catholics.

01:58:43.220 They just forced the religion on everyone. No, the logic was if they become Christians,

01:58:47.600 this jihadist animus they have for us will have to go away because now they're like us okay that

01:58:53.240 was the only logic okay become like us and lose your hatred for us or leave so a fatwa came out

01:59:00.280 a fatwa was a decree by a very well by several respected islamic jurists from north africa

01:59:05.180 who employ who invoked the doctrine of takaya okay and takaya is based takaya means you can

01:59:12.140 dissemble your true beliefs about islam you can say you're a christian but as long as you're

01:59:16.640 truly a muslim in your heart and you're doing this okay so someone someone was asking me to

01:59:21.560 talk about this earlier um oh it was it was dormen dormen are you still here

01:59:26.720 no dormen's not here anymore okay so let me um let me just make a note of this because earlier on

01:59:37.180 in the live stream Dorman wanted me to speak about Takiyah and like that's that's not my

01:59:46.880 expertise because my focus is more on um Islamic terrorism and jihad um so let me just make a quick

01:59:55.860 note. Let me do a timestamp here. 10721. Raymond talks about Takiyah. Okay. So I just made a note

02:00:15.360 of that. And then Dorman's not here anymore. But I will make a video about it because

02:00:22.420 um they did they did request that and uh i i do keep track of all the comments and all the requests

02:00:30.660 so okay as a stratagem you can do it as but continue to hate the infidel and whatever

02:00:36.500 continue trying to plot against them so a fatwa came out and all half million muslims

02:00:40.980 overnight became christians and they converted and were baptized and and long story short they

02:00:47.300 the sources described them as being better christians than the christians they were punctual

02:00:50.900 church and everything. But they were home reading the Quran to their children and preaching undying

02:00:55.900 hatred for Christian Spain and still trying to plot, okay? And that was the beginning of the

02:01:00.960 Inquisition, okay? Because the Christians didn't know what to do. They didn't want to get rid of

02:01:05.200 them because they converted. And what if he is a sincere Christian? And what if he's not?

02:01:10.500 But they weren't aware that they were being deceitful.

02:01:13.900 Yeah, finally. When they finally learned that they were being deceived, there's one guy who

02:01:18.400 i quote i think he's a priest from 15th century and he says these these people were better

02:01:23.900 christians than us and yet in their hearts they still believed and were following the imposter

02:01:28.520 you know prophet okay and uh so they were still a fifth column but an even more dangerous one

02:01:33.960 and the muslim sources say and a lot of the people very early cryptic references a lot of the men who

02:01:39.180 were women i suppose who were engaged in takeya were burned because of the inquisition so that

02:01:44.700 is really the and and there's elements of this with jews as well i think they're called you know

02:01:48.620 one ones the moriscos were the moors who supposedly converted but were still kind of practicing their

02:01:54.780 islam and the moranos i believe were the jews who for the and when people talk about um no i haven't

02:02:02.460 met um i haven't met um uh raymond at some point i would like to have him on my channel you know

02:02:11.740 when when i grow and i um get a bit bit more um wyatt so no there's no there's no channel

02:02:20.300 named gigamari i mean maybe i should make a channel um my user profile is gigamari but i

02:02:27.900 haven't made a channel i just like upload videos to that but um let me like i'll i'll figure that

02:02:35.660 out here let me let me find my rumble account um i'll post the link to my rumble account um

02:02:48.540 it's just like my rumble user account um here you go yes it is it is a pokeball so that's my rumble

02:02:58.220 user account. But I don't I don't have like a channel or

02:03:07.320 anything like is that is that what I'm supposed to do?

02:03:14.180 rumble studio here. I don't know. I'll figure it out. I'll

02:03:17.980 figure out how to make a channel I guess but that's just like

02:03:22.100 my user account on rumble the inquisition

02:03:24.620 pokemon bowl with extra charizard you know guys i actually used to play pokemon go

02:03:31.080 i think i got up to like i think it was like level 45 or something i don't know on pokemon go

02:03:36.880 maybe higher i i literally don't remember it was like years ago my point is they always

02:03:41.500 mentioned the jews but it was actually a lot more muslims who were being tried for that very reason

02:03:46.360 and uh you know catholic spain just ended up basically saying you're either one of us or you

02:03:51.200 have to go because you're plotting against us obviously and the only way we can determine it

02:03:56.860 is through an inquisition i'm not trying to justify the inquisition i'm just trying to show

02:04:01.020 you once again how is i need to stop looking at the chat because you guys are making me randomly

02:04:10.520 laugh like like raymond ibrahim is literally talking about the inquisition and someone says

02:04:16.520 Pokemon Go is a Masonic, and I just, yeah, let's, let's just assume everything is Mason at this

02:04:23.240 point, and, um, we're all getting our 7k. Guys, stop making me laugh. This is a serious, I'm trying

02:04:29.840 to learn here, and I shouldn't be laughing when he's talking about the Inquisition. That was a

02:04:36.520 horrible horrible time in history okay all right let's continue plums in the background how it

02:04:48.500 provoked a pretty bad reaction for you you have called some of the behavior of islam and the

02:04:55.860 muslims uh as they as they grew out from the arabian peninsula up into europe as brutal and

02:05:02.720 barbaric would you describe the inquisition in such ways sure i mean the inquisition there i'm

02:05:08.340 sure there are innocent people uh who suffered and the inquisition uh uh was involved with the

02:05:12.940 knights of the temple for example and that's a topic i've actually delved in very recently for

02:05:16.920 my recent book where these guys who had vowed and done everything to fight for christendom were

02:05:21.960 actually tortured by fellow christians on on you know baseless charges that were made by the king

02:05:28.020 who wanted their you know gold so i'm sure a lot of people were i'm not justifying the inquisition

02:05:33.320 i'm just i'm more interested in trying to show you how once again islam gave rise to something

02:05:37.640 that was very negative in europe you know the recon or even you know the okay the christopher

02:05:45.280 columbus he sailed the you know the ocean blue because he's looking for spices people again

02:05:50.620 don't understand the whole thing was about islam okay yeah i know that's because that's but he

02:05:55.340 couldn't go east anymore you couldn't go east because if you go east you get killed okay by

02:05:59.040 the muslims the ottomans and the mamluks and so forth and not only that in his own writings he

02:06:04.660 was doing this partially to help with the crusade he wanted to find people who he thought would be

02:06:09.720 christians or converted to christianity and then they can be mobilized to go like in a pincer

02:06:14.140 movement around and attack the islamic world and liberate jerusalem so it was still that or even

02:06:19.420 the portuguese before him you know um the portuguese uh explorers or usually a prince

02:06:24.400 henry i think is uh or henrik ii is the main one who's attributed with this sort of traveling around

02:06:29.840 the world he was a complete crusader that was his motivation entirely entirely that was it wow um

02:06:42.640 you can't see that

02:06:44.080 oh my god guys

02:06:53.560 oh my gosh okay so um yeah yeah so christopher columbus my favorite massage

02:07:08.640 columbus was a massage agent guys like you have to stop

02:07:14.080 okay um both of you get bonus points because um i'll tell you something i was a politician for

02:07:26.120 you know i was in politics for 10 years i was an elected official for um seven and

02:07:33.800 it takes a lot of skill to have like a straight face right so you know always keeping a straight

02:07:39.540 face. And, you know, whenever I was in the legislature, of course, I spoke very seriously.

02:07:44.840 You're, you know, you're not allowed to have a personality as a politician, right? Like in order

02:07:49.840 to be a successful politician, you basically have to have the personality of cardboard and you have

02:07:56.260 to be that much interesting because, you know, you're supposed to be just like non-controversial

02:08:02.060 and you're not supposed to have any ideas and you're supposed to be politically correct and

02:08:05.680 all that nonsense and um obviously because i have a lot of opinions and i'm very opinionated and um

02:08:14.000 you know i like to speak out in the face of injustice um i wasn't a very good politician

02:08:20.160 because i wasn't able to you know toe the line um very much however um i was always able to

02:08:26.960 you know manage to keep a very straight face regardless of like the crazy things that i heard

02:08:33.760 and believe me guys like i i heard a lot of crazy crazy stuff so you know that stoicism

02:08:41.760 um very important so the fact that you guys are just making me laugh with some of these comments

02:08:48.240 like the the christopher columbus one that that caught me off guard that caught me off guard

02:08:57.200 yeah ice kitty you're right like a one hour okay you know what a one hour video will not be five

02:09:02.480 hours um we're at a pretty good ratio so um this video is is roughly two hours we're about one hour

02:09:13.200 and 11 minutes in so we have like i think you know another like i don't know 40 50 minutes to go

02:09:21.360 so hopefully you know we'll be done soon ish in an hour or so i don't know but um

02:09:28.640 um yeah i'm i'm the the the two of you uh with your you know christopher columbus is

02:09:37.520 yeah okay all right let's continue you see how islam is just embedded in in europe's history

02:09:49.480 and so many so many you know it's been completely taken out yeah all right events were a reaction

02:09:54.760 to it wow um so what about then the rise of the ottomans what year is uh constant remind

02:10:03.720 me what year constantinople is 1453 may 29 when it's conquered yeah and so uh what what happened

02:10:10.840 that was that a very bloody uh brutal like the rest of it or what what's the story of the of the

02:10:17.640 sacking of constantinople okay so okay so i mentioned the seljuk turks who were you know

02:10:21.640 turks and they were the ones who were mainly during the first crusade and a little bit afterwards

02:10:25.560 um and then the ottomans were more turks uh and they're the names ottoman and seljuk these are

02:10:31.460 the names of the founders so ottomans with their founder their forefather osman is his name and the

02:10:36.840 other guy was seljuk but they're all turks um and they they rose in that area very close to

02:10:43.060 constantinople and they eventually took over and consolidated all the turkish tribes under them

02:10:47.520 and the Seljuks were gone and they became the chief power at the time. There were really two

02:10:52.160 powers, the Ottomans in Turkey and in Egypt, you had the Mamluks who were slave soldiers

02:10:56.840 and Egypt kept importing them. And then eventually they took over. Um, anyways, and they were

02:11:02.940 contending rivals, the Ottomans and the Mamluks until the Ottomans actually beat the Mamluks and

02:11:07.260 around 1517 and, um, uh, absorbed all of that whole area. So the, the Mamluks, the Ottomans

02:11:13.100 were definitely the scourge of more in more modern times okay so from around 1400 uh up until

02:11:20.800 you know 1683 they're at vienna right they're surrounding vienna

02:11:24.980 i can't i can't tell if this comment is serious or not but

02:11:32.360 when does he get to the part that muslims discover north america guys

02:11:37.140 you have to stop with

02:11:41.060 no they're already like but it's so messed up because they're already claiming that like

02:11:55.560 they discovered north america and they built north america it's like the the weirdest like

02:12:00.700 historical revisionist let's let's see when raymond gets to the part about um muslims

02:12:15.760 discovering north america let's see for those hundreds of years the ottomans completely

02:12:21.800 devastated the balkans conquered so many regions you know greece uh bulgaria albania all these

02:12:29.560 regions hungary was one of its main enemies but it also got conquered for about 150 years

02:12:35.260 and um you know it like i said it goes all the way up until 1683 and now they're around vienna

02:12:40.900 again encircling it with 200 000 um and i'll tell you a very interesting story about vienna because

02:12:46.080 it's very applicable to today something's happening today about this but in the battle of vienna in

02:12:49.880 1683 you know you have something like 200 000 muslim ottomans surrounding it and on their way

02:12:56.760 they destroyed and devastated everything killing 30 000 christian captives etc and um they they

02:13:03.340 were about to just to enter breach um vienna it was about two months into it or even less until

02:13:09.980 and right before they did on september 12th the king of poland came john sobieski the third

02:13:15.060 with something like 65 000 fighters and they were on the top of a hill and he very clearly says this

02:13:21.100 is about christianity and islam and they're trying to take it and so forth i have a whole chapter

02:13:26.180 about that too i can't could you imagine someone like watching this replay and they're not looking

02:13:36.420 at the live chat and then they're gonna think that i'm laughing could you okay could you imagine if

02:13:41.300 like raymond just like randomly tunes in and then he just he's not looking at the live chat and he

02:13:46.660 just sees me um laughing uncontrollably guys i also want to say um so there's like

02:13:56.900 over a thousand people who are watching this live stream on x um and to everyone who's watching the

02:14:05.300 live stream on x um my apologies you guys can't see um the chat on youtube and the reason i'm

02:14:16.260 laughing is because of the comments in the youtube chat so if you want to see what people are saying

02:14:20.740 you're welcome to join us on youtube but yeah so so to everyone watching me on x i swear um there's

02:14:29.060 a good reason why i'm laughing i'm not laughing at what raymond is saying it's it's um what people

02:14:35.460 in in youtube are saying and this is um this is the most fun chat that i've ever had um

02:14:44.500 since i started since i started live streaming so yeah there we go it's uh it's it's been a very

02:14:51.460 interesting very interesting um chat and uh i'm just i'm glad you guys are are having fun

02:14:58.660 dudes horticimitar all these big ones um and then they had a thunderous cavalry charge and they

02:15:03.620 defeated and the ottomans and lifted the siege and of course vienna was grateful very much so

02:15:10.020 since then they've been trying to put up a monument or a statue for sobieski on that hill

02:15:14.520 in vienna where he came down and a lot of viennese and austrians wanted and of course poles

02:15:20.240 wanted and it's a way of thanking the poles for what they did but the the city council of vienna

02:15:24.780 said that's too islamophobic and it might offend the muslims when was that this is happening right

02:15:30.740 now this is something actually that was just reported like a few weeks ago okay okay guys so

02:15:35.840 So all jokes aside, this part is important.

02:15:39.440 So what he just said about how talking about history is Islamophobic, that's true.

02:15:50.780 That's part of the historical revisionism.

02:15:53.500 There was actually a Yazidi woman who wanted to speak about her experience of being captured by ISIS, Islamic terrorists.

02:16:04.500 and she was basically used as a sex slave. And it was just absolutely horrible. She was raped,

02:16:08.940 she was tortured. She thankfully, you know, was able to find a way to escape. And then she was

02:16:17.060 supposed to do like a speaking tour in Canada to talk about her experience as a, you know,

02:16:24.000 Yazidi genocide survivor. And her speaking tour was canceled because Muslim lobby groups in Canada

02:16:33.700 said that if she talks about her experience that will contribute to Islamophobia so keep that in

02:16:42.820 mind um when they murder infidels in the name of Allah and Islam and jihad right not all Muslims

02:16:51.360 um it's just the bad apples so you know there's that but then when people who are victims of

02:16:59.080 islamic terrorism try to raise awareness about their life experience and talk about what happened

02:17:06.280 to them that's a no-no because that could lead to islamophobia right so i i'm gonna go back a

02:17:13.220 little bit here because this part very very important and this is um this is a pattern this

02:17:21.380 is this is a you know just a pattern um that has been happening for a while um and so in order to

02:17:30.380 uh combat the disinformation out there it's important to recognize the pattern and of course

02:17:38.380 the tactics so this is one of those tactics here where they basically um try to silence people

02:17:44.100 who just want to speak objectively about the facts by saying um it's islam it's islamophobic

02:17:52.580 to talk about the history of you know the muslim colonizers they devastated the balkans

02:17:59.600 conquered so many regions you know greece uh bulgaria albania all these regions hungary was

02:18:07.820 one of its main enemies but it also got conquered for about 150 years and um you know it like i

02:18:14.380 said it goes all the way up until 1683 and now they're around vienna again encircling it with

02:18:19.220 200,000 um and i'll tell you a very interesting story about vienna because it's very applicable

02:18:23.340 to today something's happening today about this but in the battle of vienna in 1683

02:18:27.180 you know you have something like 200,000 muslim ottomans surrounding it and on their way they

02:18:33.520 destroyed and devastated everything killing 30 000 christian captives etc and um they they were

02:18:40.100 about to just to enter breach um vienna it was about two months into it or even less until and

02:18:46.900 right before they did on september 12th the king of poland came john sobieski the third with

02:18:52.300 something like 65 000 fighters and they were on the top of a hill and he very clearly says this

02:18:57.720 is about christianity and islam and they're trying to take it and so forth i have a whole chapter

02:19:02.800 about that too it's horticimitar all these big ones um and then they had you know thunderous

02:19:07.220 cavalry charge and they defeated and the ottomans and lifted the siege and of course vienna was

02:19:12.440 grateful very much so since then they've been trying to put up a monument or a statue for

02:19:17.720 sobieski on that hill in vienna where he came down and a lot of viennese and austrians wanted

02:19:23.900 and of course poles wanted and it's a way of thanking the poles for what they did but the the

02:19:28.220 city council of vienna said that's too islamophobic and it might offend the muslims when was that

02:19:34.180 this is happening right now this is something actually that was just reported like a few weeks

02:19:38.480 ago okay and we're not gonna have it because it agitates islamophobia and uh and then you look

02:19:44.720 into vienna and it's like a bastion of islam i didn't know this but or until recently there are

02:19:49.860 more muslim students than catholic students and vienna of course was a catholic nation it was it

02:19:53.980 It was the seat of the Holy Roman Empire, which was why it was so important to Muslims to

02:19:58.380 conquer like Rome.

02:19:59.380 Today, there are more Muslim students in Vienna than Canada.

02:20:02.100 And constantly, the mosques are being busted for teaching hate.

02:20:07.160 Last year, there was a foiled plot on a Taylor Swift concert.

02:20:11.220 Yeah.

02:20:12.220 Yeah.

02:20:13.220 But I mean, there's a lot.

02:20:14.220 I wrote an article and there's so many things, you know, these students tried to shoot up

02:20:16.740 a Christian class and they said, because killing Christians get us into heaven.

02:20:21.000 That's what the Muslims said, the students.

02:20:23.420 and um so i actually visited vienna in um when was it i was in austria for three weeks in

02:20:34.500 2012 um so three weeks in austria 2012 that would be what like um 13 13 years ago and

02:20:46.340 that was when the mass immigration was like just starting. And even back then, I remember when I

02:20:57.520 was in Austria, um, Austrian people, right? Like, like native Austrian people, the white people,

02:21:04.640 um, they were saying to me, um, don't go to this place. Don't go to that place. And then,

02:21:11.360 you know, I was, I was like, what do you mean? Like, they were like, no, no, no,

02:21:14.340 these are no-go zones. Don't go there. And I decided to check one place out just, you know,

02:21:20.420 to see what they were talking about. You know, I was like, I was young. I was naive. I was like,

02:21:24.720 what do you mean? No-go zones. This is Austria. Austria is supposed to be a safe country.

02:21:30.280 And I went to one of these no-go zones. This was 13 years ago. And even though I'm from the

02:21:37.460 Middle East, I had never felt more uncomfortable and more unsafe being in that no-go zone in

02:21:47.000 Vienna. That was 13 years ago. So I can only imagine how much worse it's become. And the

02:21:57.340 situation has been around for a while and people have been quietly whispering about it. And the

02:22:04.700 only reason that no one has said anything out loud is because everyone has been afraid of being,

02:22:09.440 you know, canceled for Islamophobia. But, you know, even like 13 years ago, Austrians were

02:22:17.680 worried about these no-go zones. And they were warning travelers because Austrians,

02:22:27.380 you know, literally like some of the nicest people on earth, very welcoming, you know,

02:22:32.820 very, very friendly. I love Austria. But yeah, they were warning me about no-go zones. And then

02:22:43.260 when I went to go check one out, I was like, oh my gosh, this is a problem. And again, that was 13

02:22:48.980 years ago. So I can only imagine how much worse it is today. And of course, the fact that Raymond

02:22:55.480 is now talking about how bad it is um yeah there were early warning signs but no one

02:23:01.880 um there were early warning signs but no one really wanted to speak about it because you know

02:23:08.100 islamophobia so so we're at it so so basically what's going on is vienna is willing to spit in

02:23:16.000 the eyes of the ancestors of the people who liberated them to and to humor the descendants

02:23:21.660 of the people who were attacking them

02:23:23.860 and who are themselves

02:23:25.020 currently criminalizing Vienna

02:23:26.740 because there's all these reports

02:23:28.060 of how crime and rape

02:23:29.840 has exponentially skyrocketed

02:23:32.120 since this influx of Muslim migrants, okay?

02:23:34.660 Yeah.

02:23:35.040 And it's just amazing.

02:23:37.040 And a final, you know,

02:23:38.380 about these battles,

02:23:39.480 because this is related,

02:23:41.100 in France, also about a couple months ago,

02:23:43.740 a couple of Muslims tried to bomb

02:23:45.380 something in Poitiers by Tours.

02:23:48.340 Why?

02:23:49.180 Because they wanted to avenge the defeat

02:23:50.860 at the battle you're kidding me no they were smarting about that still this battle that most

02:23:56.520 westerners don't even remember again showing you the long view of muslims they wanted 300 years

02:24:02.520 later yeah wow there's the seeing as we're recording in america i just read the biography

02:24:07.780 of captain john smith who set up the to fight turks well yeah he he set up the the the first

02:24:15.000 successful colony at jamestown and he worked before that he's a man from lincolnshire and he

02:24:21.860 went to fight the turks in hungary and was captured became a slave was traveled taken all the way

02:24:29.960 across to east eastern uh turkey uh eventually escaped walked up to moscow then walked all the

02:24:38.200 across Europe again to his friends in Hungary. And eventually, actually, he didn't even go home

02:24:45.560 then at that point, he went off and went on some other adventures. But for me, it goes to show that

02:24:52.200 actually, even the founding of America, I mean, you mentioned the Barbary Wars earlier, this stuff

02:24:57.080 would have very much have been in the imagination of the founders of this country, as we seem to

02:25:05.720 have forgotten all of that stuff but isn't it ironic john smith i mean he's mostly famous for

02:25:09.800 pocahontas yeah right but here even this guy has this long sordid affair with islam right yeah and

02:25:16.840 since you mentioned it and since i've been talking about history and i went up 1683 let me actually

02:25:20.680 finish it off with barbary because that's very important yeah um people don't realize i mean

02:25:25.720 think about this america's first war as a nation after gaining independence from your country uh

02:25:31.240 was was against muslims and with jefferson yeah yeah jefferson and why because they were using

02:25:37.800 the very same logic that all the other muslims that i quoted you know the jihad etc you're an

02:25:42.520 infidel and uh so they start attacking and plundering american vessels sometime in i think

02:25:49.720 so i actually heard somewhere i don't know if it was someone who commented or something um

02:25:56.760 um, apparently the reason that the Americans even like built a Navy and created a Navy

02:26:06.540 was in order to deal with the Muslim pirates. Someone put that in the comments in one of my

02:26:13.640 videos. Um, I made a note to go and, and look that up, but, uh, yeah, that, that, that's what

02:26:23.480 that person said but I have no idea if it's true or not yeah I think it was the marines someone

02:26:27.420 yeah they basically said the marines were created to deal with the muslim pirates like 300 400 years

02:26:34.740 ago um I think that's what they said so I mean I I haven't looked into it oh am I correct okay so

02:26:41.800 I didn't I didn't know that there you go so um so I made a note of that to like look into that but

02:26:47.280 I mean I don't I don't have the full details um but I just find it really so I think that's where

02:26:51.660 Raymond I think that's where Raymond is going right now when he's talking about all this

02:26:56.240 and Thomas Jefferson so I'll go back a little bit but I just wanted to kind of like you know

02:27:02.000 highlight that because I you know this part this part here is is new to me so I'm very interested

02:27:07.860 to learn more about his friends in Hungary and eventually actually he didn't even go home then

02:27:14.080 at that point he went off and went on some other adventures but it's it for me it goes to show

02:27:20.360 that actually even the founding of America,

02:27:21.880 I mean, you mentioned the Barbary Wars earlier,

02:27:24.200 this stuff would have very much

02:27:26.820 have been in the imagination

02:27:27.660 of the founders of this country

02:27:30.300 as we've seemed to have forgotten all of that stuff.

02:27:35.060 But isn't it ironic, John Smith,

02:27:36.860 I mean, he's mostly famous for what, Pocahontas?

02:27:39.240 Yeah.

02:27:39.540 Right?

02:27:39.840 But here, even this guy has this long,

02:27:42.320 sordid affair with Islam, right?

02:27:44.440 Yeah.

02:27:45.140 And since you mentioned it,

02:27:45.960 and since I've been talking about history

02:27:47.200 and I went up to 1683,

02:27:48.500 let me actually finish it off with Barbary.

02:27:50.360 because that's very important yeah um people don't realize that i mean think about this

02:27:54.600 america's first war as a nation after gaining independence from your country uh was was against

02:28:01.080 muslims and with jefferson yeah yeah jefferson and why because they were using the very same logic

02:28:07.400 that all the other muslims that i quoted you know the jihad etc you're an infidel

02:28:11.720 and uh so they start attacking and plundering american vessels sometime in i think 1780 or

02:28:17.880 something right soon after the revolutionary war and um long story short jeff jefferson and john

02:28:23.240 adams they guys no why why would you do this why would someone why would someone in the youtube

02:28:32.520 chat ask grok if they're islamopho you're you're in the wrong platform grok doesn't respond to

02:28:39.240 youtube youtube comments you have to do that on x

02:28:42.440 colty go to x if you want to ask that question there's no grok on youtube what are you doing

02:29:00.200 please like

02:29:05.480 oh my god

02:29:06.280 okay yes jefferson was massage jefferson was massage with the ambassador from barbary i think

02:29:14.420 triple e abdul something oh i'm your favorite boomer tuber thank you yes i am old i am old like

02:29:22.140 i don't i don't hide the fact guys i'm not i'm not 20 like i i don't know why people think calling

02:29:28.840 me a boomer is is like a bad thing like i'm i'm old guys i'm i am an old person i'm old i have

02:29:38.860 gray hairs um i have back aches i have wrinkles i have it all okay you know it's i have it in my

02:29:46.860 book and they say what if you you know we're willing to be friends and trade why are you

02:29:50.760 attacking us what have we done to you and then jefferson he wrote a letter to congress which

02:29:54.800 we still have with the ambassador's response and to paraphrase it he basically told him our quran

02:30:01.560 says and our prophet says you're our enemy and it's our right and duty to attack and plunder

02:30:05.940 and kill you and enslave you wherever we can find you and most people don't realize that he was

02:30:09.760 actually paraphrasing quran nine five which is known in islam as the sword verse and it says

02:30:15.680 lay in wait and lay in wait wherever you can find the infidel and ambush them and kill them and

02:30:21.760 enslave them okay so anyway so it's the same mentality same logic america's very first war

02:30:27.420 it just became a nation it hasn't even had its first president yet george washington and it gets

02:30:32.400 dragged into eventually two wars okay the first is the barbara first barbary war in 1801 and that

02:30:37.460 drags on and again in 1815 okay so you know so here look we fast forwarded almost 1200 years

02:30:44.920 since the battle of yarmouk right in 636 now we're in 1815 and it's the same mentality same logic

02:30:50.820 And it's the same thing that they tell us. Islam doesn't mean that. Islam means peace. And that's how effective they've been. They've gotten that narrative to become dominant, even though the long storied past of history is very, it's an unwavering continuity of Islamic hostility based on Islamic teachings and, you know, jihad.

02:31:13.620 so we'll come up to the present day but before we do seeing as you've mentioned the quran i guess

02:31:19.860 there's a you have also said you're not a theologian so i i remember that

02:31:32.100 where do you think this comes from within islam and is it the

02:31:36.900 back wait what some someone said that i'm gone you guys lost me what

02:31:53.300 did my live stream cut out or someone trolling

02:32:00.020 oh my gosh okay so someone was trolling okay someone was troll

02:32:06.900 Don't do that. Don't do that, guys. I've had issues in the past where my live stream just like cuts out and then I go black. Oh my gosh. Okay. Okay. All right. See, see, I'm, I'm, I'm paying attention always. Okay. All right. Let's continue.

02:32:27.500 behavior is it the example of muhammad or the example of these first early muslim warriors and

02:32:38.280 i think it's an important one because we look at islamism today and uh it's clearly you know we

02:32:44.700 talk about isis and uh all these muslim brotherhood and we talk about israel hamas and um it's clear

02:32:52.100 that there's a there's there's an aspect of islam that is like like the the the description you just

02:33:00.720 cited that is uh i guess violent um and um and there's a contention there that this idea of

02:33:08.500 peaceful muslims moderate muslims and i guess yeah i i i i'm not sure exactly what my question

02:33:17.340 here is but uh the origins of all this yeah yeah like how much is this from the quran how much is

02:33:24.000 this from muhammad what's your perspective on that yeah okay it's all you have to understand

02:33:28.740 how islamic law works okay so according to his standard islamic teaching amongst sunnis who are

02:33:34.000 90 of the muslim world um you know the twin the twin sources of authority are the quran which is

02:33:40.480 understood to be the literal words of allah and then what's called the hadith okay plural it's

02:33:45.900 hadith but i'm going to say hadiths to anglicize it and um all they are are vast volumes and volumes

02:33:52.780 and volumes of what muhammad supposedly said and did okay and according to the muslim you know

02:33:58.420 scientists as they call themselves the ulama you know they rank them uh there's what's called

02:34:02.840 sahih meaning it's correct it's authentic he did say this and that takes on almost the same value

02:34:08.400 as the quran okay and there's a lot of that now based on those two things hatred for the non-muslim

02:34:15.740 is unequivocal and continuously documented war on them as jihad continuously documented uh treating

02:34:23.740 you know the non-muslim who gets conquered as a dhimmi which means they have to live as a second

02:34:27.740 class citizen and pay tribute unequivocally documented these are totally enshrined based

02:34:33.100 on the quran and the words of muhammad okay his example and muslims the word sunni i mentioned

02:34:38.220 them you know the sunni means like the example so they're a sunni is trying to follow the example

02:34:43.260 of muhammad so muhammad waged war on infidels that's what we have to do as well so it's

02:34:48.700 unequivocally clear you know anyone a person will tell you that no islam doesn't teach violence etc

02:34:54.220 he's either really really ignorant or being very very deceptive and it could be one or the other

02:34:59.580 um but if you've taken the time to study them as i have in their original languages and that's

02:35:04.060 another problem if you look at the quran today it's they're mistranslating it intentionally

02:35:09.020 they add words that don't exist you know so for example quran 929 will say which literally says

02:35:15.100 fight the people of the book which means jews and christians until they pay tribute and feel

02:35:19.500 themselves subdued okay and that's that's the teaching that come that's what justifies jizya

02:35:24.620 it uses the word jizya um a lot of english now quran translations say fight the people of the

02:35:30.300 book if they fight wait did did someone in the youtube comments just say i like how the british

02:35:36.620 is telling someone from the Middle East what Islam is. Are you inbred or are you just retarded

02:35:44.760 because Raymond Ibrahim is from Israel? Sorry, he's from Egypt. Raymond Ibrahim is from Egypt

02:35:51.640 and just because he doesn't speak with an accent doesn't mean he's not from the area.

02:35:58.480 It's literally like how people are like, oh, you're not from the Middle East. You don't speak

02:36:03.700 with an accent and i'm like how how stupid are you like not everyone um from the middle east

02:36:09.500 speaks with an accent so she's like like your your low iq is really showing right now like

02:36:16.840 you're embarrassing yourself um your your family tree probably looks more like a circle just saying

02:36:23.800 you first okay and okay so now it doesn't look so bad this is again defensive war this is just

02:36:31.300 war the original doesn't say they fight you first says you attack them so there's unfortunately a

02:36:35.860 lot of playing around with islamic scriptures intent intended to deceive infidels um but yeah

02:36:42.900 that it's it's just it's that simple that's what the two twin pillars of islamic the the islam is

02:36:48.940 islam's authority the quran hadith say and the quran is the word of god and i read the crown a

02:36:53.520 few years ago and it what the difficult thing for me apart from certain of some certain of the

02:36:59.120 scriptures like the ones mentioned already is that it says throughout it you must take this

02:37:03.620 literally and you can't so so the idea of a sort of islamic reformation against this it seems to

02:37:10.620 be tricky having said that and i'll come back to europe but i look around the world now where i

02:37:17.700 have hope with relations between the western world and the islamic world is yeah but but the host

02:37:22.980 the host isn't talking about anything the host is asking questions and raymond is answering so

02:37:30.260 i mean if anyone is watching this and thinking that the host is teaching us about islam my

02:37:39.300 argument still stands they're either inbred or retarded or i don't know maybe possibly both

02:37:44.260 because the host is the host is being a good host the host is engaging in a conversation

02:37:49.380 that is encouraging Raymond Ibrahim to talk about various things. So yeah, it's just honestly like

02:37:59.140 the low IQ of some people who are unable to understand how a conversation works.

02:38:04.460 But then again, like that person, that person is probably just used to, you know, just being like

02:38:12.040 spoken at, right? Like spoken at by imams or whatever. That person's probably not used to

02:38:18.780 having a back and forth conversation. So that's why he's probably confused about the conversation.

02:38:27.800 The leaders of, let's say, the Emirati leaders, were the signatories of the Abraham Accords.

02:38:35.720 And I see, oh, actually, these are people who are taking Islamism seriously. They recognize

02:38:40.300 the problem. They're even calling the Westerners out for not taking it serious enough. The Emiratis

02:38:46.640 has been fantastic on this, particularly Mohammed bin Zayed. For me, the hope is that these people

02:38:53.340 are interpreting the scripture in a certain way that means that there will be relations much

02:39:00.860 improved from everything you've described in history. Do you think I'm right to feel this way?

02:39:05.720 No, I think there's room for optimism for a number of reasons. The insurmountable hurdle

02:39:12.600 is what i just described okay the texts are so black and white you know it literally says in the

02:39:17.600 quran that if you're a muslim you have to hate non-muslims and i've watched cleric after cleric

02:39:22.660 say things like yeah even if you're married because islam allows muslim men to marry christian

02:39:26.560 women or jews and he'll say yeah you can marry them and have fun with them sexually but you have

02:39:30.740 to hate them and you have to let them know you hate them okay that's that's how much it's so

02:39:34.920 ironclad now you know and this is the whole question about what's a moderate muslim okay so

02:39:39.540 yeah i don't believe in a moderate islam because it's just not there it's black and white but i do

02:39:44.720 believe in moderate muslims because humans are subjective and they can do whatever they want

02:39:48.460 right they can believe they can just reinterpret it their own way they can ignore it i mean so i

02:39:53.900 believe you have that it exists it's just it's very hard to doctrinally justify it okay against

02:40:00.380 the hardliners that's why they always end up winning the arguments because it goes back to

02:40:04.680 what the Quran says and what the Hadith says. But there's all kinds of leeway and ways to get

02:40:10.600 around this, I suppose. But you're right. A lot of people, they say we want a reformation of Islam.

02:40:19.920 And what they don't get is actually something very akin to the Protestant Reformation has

02:40:24.140 been happening, and it's what led to radicalism. Not because Protestantism is radical, but the

02:40:29.500 same methodology and i'll explain what i'm saying protestantism essentially uh was you know solo

02:40:34.720 scriptura we don't we're done with clergies and whatever we just want the bible okay and um islam

02:40:41.300 before for a while has always been yeah the quran and the sunnah but most people were illiterate

02:40:46.280 muslims and you had to rely on the ulama and the scholars and the shaykhs etc and there were schools

02:40:51.380 of law and there still are which could you know modify teachings certain ways or not well like

02:40:57.060 the Protestant Reformation, you know, since modern times, now the Quran is available on

02:41:01.820 the internet, okay? And Muslims are literate and they can read Arabic. And what's happening

02:41:06.460 is they're becoming more and more going back to the scriptures and not caring so much about

02:41:11.060 what the schools of law, they're called medeheb, say. So it's almost like a sola scriptura

02:41:16.360 mentality, but the result is the exact opposite. Because if you're a Christian who just goes

02:41:22.160 by the Bible, well, you're going to turn the other cheek and you're going to love your

02:41:24.940 neighbor and you're going to believe in monogamy, et cetera, et cetera. If you go strictly with what

02:41:29.460 I'm talking about, the Quran and the Hadith, well, that's where all the hatred comes and the violence

02:41:33.800 and basically a seventh century Bedouin mentality. I mean, that's what's captured there.

02:41:39.180 So what people really want is not a reformation of Islam, which I don't think is possible. They

02:41:44.120 want an enlightenment, which was basically, you know, not even caring what the scriptures say,

02:41:49.240 just rising above it. And, you know, how you rationalize that people can do whatever they

02:41:53.840 want. I mean, look amongst Christians, you have all kinds of different beliefs and teachings,

02:41:58.080 even though one Christian will say, oh, the Bible says this. And so of course it can be done,

02:42:02.580 but you're going to need, and the leaders, you have to remember, they can do what they can do.

02:42:06.260 But a lot of the, you know, the people are, you know, Saudi Arabia is our good friend and ally.

02:42:11.620 And I know they're also sometimes part of these accords, et cetera, but they're also the chief

02:42:15.540 disseminators of radical Islam. Okay. They're the ones who fund this. You know, if you go to a mosque

02:42:21.820 in England and you find it has radical hateful books it's coming from Saudi Arabia you know so

02:42:28.320 it's and again we have to contend with this idea of Takeya Islam or you know also coming from the

02:42:35.040 Islamic Republic occupying Iran let's let's not forget about that allowing deception of the

02:42:41.380 infidel as needed okay so we're in a weak phase then we have to you know be accommodating to them

02:42:47.180 and not hate them openly so all that needs to be taken into consideration but having said that

02:42:52.140 i think if western powers or the non-muslim world just dropped the act and said look we understand

02:42:58.700 your religion we understand it has violence and we understand this but we're not going to tolerate

02:43:02.700 it and you know in other words call them out and stop playing this game as if no no it's not there

02:43:07.620 it is there let's confront it it's there but when we try to confront it those same groups that are

02:43:17.460 funded by saudi arabia and qatar and the muslim brotherhood and the islamic republic

02:43:22.820 those groups then cry islamophobia and you have to ask yourselves why is it that only islamophobia

02:43:31.540 exists there's no such thing as christian phobia or hindu phobia or you know jewish phobia or um

02:43:41.460 i don't know buddhist phobia or zoroastrian phobia why is there only a phobia for one

02:43:49.540 particular religion and that particular religion is the one that is literally the most violent one

02:43:57.460 in the world and the one that goes around chopping people's heads off in the name of Allah, right?

02:44:05.720 So it's almost like they created the word Islamophobia preemptively to silence people

02:44:14.000 from criticizing the fact that there is a violent element to their religion. And when you try to

02:44:22.940 confront it right when you try to confront it you're accused of being a bigot or racist even

02:44:30.560 though islam is not a race or islamophobic or whatever the case may be right so this is a very

02:44:36.660 good point that that raymond is making here you know it has to be confronted but the challenge

02:44:42.220 is when you try to confront it the islamist groups come after you and the leaders you have to remember

02:44:48.840 they can do what they can do but a lot of the you know the people you know saudi arabia is our good

02:44:54.920 friend and ally and i know they're also sometimes part of these accords etc but they're also the

02:44:59.400 chief disseminators of radical islam okay they're the ones who fund this you know if you go to a

02:45:05.560 mosque in in england and you find it has radical hateful books it's coming from saudi arabia you

02:45:11.960 know so it's and again we have to contend with this idea of takaya islam allowing deception of

02:45:17.720 the infidel as needed okay so we're in a weak phase then we have to you know be accommodating

02:45:23.400 to them and not hate them openly so all that needs to be taken into consideration but having

02:45:28.280 said that i think if western powers or the non-muslim world just dropped the act and said

02:45:34.360 look we understand your religion we understand it has violence and we understand this but we're not

02:45:38.680 going to tolerate it and you know in other words call them out and stop playing this game as if no

02:45:43.320 no, no, it's not there. It is there. Let's confront it and let's work around it.

02:45:47.440 I suspect if you were to do that, then a lot of the problems might go away.

02:45:51.620 Yeah.

02:45:52.000 Because if you just, you call it out and everyone's like, actually, we better behave.

02:45:55.000 Yeah. But if you keep acting, no, no, your religion means peace. There's nothing wrong

02:45:58.660 with your religion. Okay. So you're not addressing the problem.

02:46:01.420 Well, this brings me to what's going, a big scandal in my country, the grooming gang scandal,

02:46:05.960 where tens of thousands of young...

02:46:07.580 Rotherham.

02:46:08.340 Rotherham, exactly. Young, white, underclass girls, predominantly white,

02:46:13.320 There's some other Hindi girls and different groups, but mainly white have been targeted because they are, quote, kafir.

02:46:21.640 And kafir or kafir?

02:46:24.360 Kafir, singular, kafir is plural.

02:46:26.860 Kafir.

02:46:27.600 And it's still now contentious.

02:46:30.840 You can't call it what it is because the perpetrators are predominantly Pakistani heritage grooming gangs.

02:46:38.520 Even calling them a grooming gang isn't quite.

02:46:40.540 It's the gang-rape gangs is what they really are.

02:46:44.340 And we're just sort of unable to call out that kind of stuff.

02:46:51.220 We also have Islamist attack after Islamist attack.

02:46:55.040 This is kind of across Europe.

02:46:56.900 It's a problem.

02:46:57.860 And this is what I kind of want to, your whole history,

02:47:00.980 I wonder how we can make it relevant to what's going on in that

02:47:05.240 because you're sort of given a historical context

02:47:07.200 And Muslims are moving to Europe en masse in hugely growing Muslim populations, particularly in contrast with the declining, let's say, quote-unquote, indigenous population, Christian population, and Christianity is also on the decline anyway amongst those.

02:47:26.860 So I wanted your perspective on how we might find social cohesion today in Europe.

02:47:34.220 Sure. So let me give you some more context, because you're right, you know, the history I told you, and there's so elements of it that we need to talk about to make sense of what you're discussing. So one of the, you know, one of the earliest motifs amongst Islamic scholars, and this goes back to about the eighth and ninth centuries, was that, you know, and I hate to put it this way, but that's how they put it, like, white women want it, okay? And white women are desirable, and they're the number, and I was telling you about the Vikings bringing slaves, they wanted fair slaves.

02:48:03.200 this is a well-documented thing that goes back to muhammad you know for during one campaign the

02:48:08.400 campaign against it's called tabuk where he was supposed to fight the eastern roman empires which

02:48:12.320 would be greeks he actually tried to cajole men to join him by saying don't you want the people

02:48:16.880 of yellow and and and he talks about the women how beautiful they are but yellow i assume means

02:48:22.320 hair a lot of people try to understand what that means does it mean hair fair skin whatever

02:48:26.080 um so there's a long kind of like this almost like sadomasochistic thing of presenting white

02:48:31.680 women as wanting it and just like okay so now fast forward and what you're talking about believe it

02:48:38.080 or not because i've looked into it very closely and the muslims the pakistanis and whatnot they

02:48:42.640 use the same exact logic and they quote that and they say yeah islam already told us these people

02:48:47.600 want it and um so someone asked have i seen cam higby debate muslims leftists at universities no

02:48:57.520 um because like i'll be honest i'm not really interested in the theological debate or anything

02:49:05.000 like that like my channel is focused more on um islamic terrorism jihad politics the middle east

02:49:13.440 right so um i mean if people want to debate religion they can go in and debate religion

02:49:20.120 But that really has no bearing or impact on Islamic terrorism, which is based on observable facts and based on history. Right. And so something that's like a proven fact in history is non-debatable.

02:49:38.440 so I mean I don't really watch those because it's just I just feel like it's a waste of my time

02:49:45.580 and like I just I don't like listening to stupid people so that's why I just like I can't listen

02:49:55.860 to anyone debate Islamists or leftists because if I listen to that I feel like I lose brain cells

02:50:02.860 um like I would much rather listen to to someone like Raymond Ibrahim and learn something about

02:50:10.160 history so um I guess I guess it could be interesting for like entertainment purposes

02:50:17.480 maybe um so to everyone watching the live stream like if you're interested definitely go um check

02:50:24.700 out Cam Higby and you know see what he does but again like the like the theological side of things

02:50:31.640 is, I'm not interested in that. Like my focus is more on, you know, the Islamic terrorists who

02:50:39.000 yell Allahu Akbar while they blow themselves up or chop people's heads off, right? And

02:50:45.280 how to prevent that from happening in Western societies. Yeah. Oh, Bridget Gabriel. I've

02:50:52.800 actually, I've done several live streams with Bridget Gabriel as well. So if you go and you

02:50:58.580 check out um my playlist the the goldie show on my youtube channel you'll find a few live streams

02:51:05.020 where i've actually played several of bridget gabriel's um interviews she's fantastic i love

02:51:12.300 her that's what they're for and they like it etc etc so just you know something to keep in back

02:51:17.700 actual quote from muhammad yeah and in a hadith yeah the the quote is that he basically said um

02:51:24.180 you know uh oh wait someone on x asked if i've seen like some random person talk about me no

02:51:31.040 um i i know i piss off a lot of jihadis or other people i don't care um if anything when they do

02:51:41.400 that it basically like that's basically free promotion for me so um again like i was i was

02:51:46.880 a politician um i was in politics for 10 years i was an elected official for seven years there is

02:51:53.660 literally nothing that anyone can say about me that would upset me or negatively impact me in

02:52:02.520 any way, shape or form. The fact that they're talking about me is actually, I don't even know

02:52:08.440 who these people are, but if they're talking about me, that means I'm on the right path because I've

02:52:14.500 definitely hit a few nerves. So there you go. That's basically free press for me. So whoever

02:52:22.260 that person is thank you for being so triggered by my videos that you felt the need to make a video

02:52:28.500 um to to talk about it and you're basically just exposing yourself for the jihadi you are

02:52:34.100 anyways yeah so yeah no i don't i don't watch all of the i don't watch any of the jihadis who

02:52:41.000 criticize me i'm i'm sure there's tons of them out there but you know that's that's irrelevant

02:52:47.440 to me my focus is just on um raising awareness and uh that's it yeah uh don't you want the the

02:52:56.300 people of yellow yeah like come join me on this raid so we can get pretty blonde women basically

02:53:02.000 okay okay and um but even i you know i'm saying it starts with them but you find iterations of

02:53:08.100 this all throughout okay you know most caliphs people don't know this but uh you know even

02:53:13.300 amongst the ottomans but especially in spain you know their last caliph was something like 99

02:53:18.560 white why because every sultan would mate with white women you know and he would you know be

02:53:25.300 half diluted sorry someone asked about ayin hersi ali i've actually featured ayin hersi ali as well

02:53:32.420 um in my previous podcasts so definitely go check that out you'll see um you'll see the ones where

02:53:40.140 i feature i and her see ali and her speeches as well i love her she's phenomenal i encourage

02:53:45.780 everyone to follow her so at the very end a lot of these sultans were essentially blonde hair and

02:53:50.220 blue-eyed but they're muslim sultans right uh so this is so anyway my point is this so you bring

02:53:56.920 a muslim population that thinks this way and you put them in england what do you think is going

02:54:01.340 to happen and you teach women to be promiscuous or whatever you know free love etc what's going

02:54:07.060 to happen this is gonna happen obviously okay um as as far as you're asking me you know how to get

02:54:12.840 past all that and the thing with england and and i mean you tell me is is the attack on sense is

02:54:19.220 free speech getting that bad because it seems like you can't even you can't call out like you

02:54:23.980 just said you can't even call something what it is anymore um it's amazing yeah i mean that's a

02:54:29.660 whole other and people being arrested and you know it's like uh anyway so it's just amazing to me you

02:54:36.620 know you compare and contrast what i've been talking about which is you know europeans king

02:54:40.440 richard speaking of england who fought tooth and nail to keep islam out of europe okay and now all

02:54:47.060 of a sudden and this is why history and doctrine is important because they've told us the exact

02:54:51.920 opposite of what i'm saying which is no islam is wonderful it means peace what are you talking

02:54:55.440 about let's bring them in by the boatloads or whatever millions and guess what you see what's

02:55:01.260 happening happening because it's just a continuum of what always happened so on the one hand you

02:55:05.800 muslims walking in perfect step with their ancestors and now you have muslim westerners

02:55:10.120 in perfect discontinuity with their ancestors you know they've just completely or perhaps

02:55:14.520 continuity with the ancestors pre uh the uh the first invasion from the the of islam into europe

02:55:23.320 so this is like if you go about 1500 years right that is it do you see some sort of parallel of

02:55:27.720 that do you think or is that a stretch well no because there was no time in history where islam

02:55:33.000 tried to get into europe that they said come on in they just either lost and fought like in spain

02:55:38.200 right okay but they always resisted so this is the first time this is unprecedented what's

02:55:42.520 happening where you know you're you're you're inviting them and they're acting the same way

02:55:47.000 as usual and your people are suffering and then you buckle down even more and you know stifle

02:55:52.600 your people and keep bringing in more and you know it's just like what's really going on then

02:55:57.960 And is there anywhere else in the world outside of Europe where there is, where Muslims and

02:56:06.000 Christians and Jews have been able to live side by side?

02:56:09.360 You know, in Europe, you have countries like Albania and maybe Montenegro.

02:56:13.840 Well, we had in the Bosnian world, we had concentration camps with Muslims rounded up.

02:56:16.940 So it's not really a great place to look, I don't think.

02:56:19.320 No, no, no.

02:56:19.620 But by and large, those countries until now, you can see Muslims and Christians living side

02:56:24.320 by side.

02:56:24.740 But the reason, honestly, is the Muslims are not very Muslim.

02:56:27.960 And the Christians aren't even very Christian.

02:56:29.840 In other words, the people there are very secular.

02:56:32.160 You look at a Muslim in a lot of these European countries,

02:56:35.440 and they don't know the first thing about—I've talked to them,

02:56:37.860 and they don't know the first thing about Islam, but they're Muslim by name.

02:56:42.740 So I think that's one of the reasons that you can have that.

02:56:46.780 Look, if Muslims are in power, and they're the dominant group,

02:56:51.920 and they're upholding and following Islamic teachings,

02:56:54.200 then by nature, the non-Muslim, the Jew, the Christian is going to have to live as a second

02:56:58.820 class citizen. Okay. So like in Egypt, for example, you know, which was a very Christian nation

02:57:03.960 and now it's 90% Muslim, let's say 10% Christian. Okay. So there's constant persecution, but there's

02:57:10.520 all these laws against churches. Okay. So I just read a report finally came out, um, you know,

02:57:15.980 the numbers and long story short, Christians are always complaining. We need churches and they're

02:57:21.540 not allowing them to build churches and if you go back to islamic law islamic teaching which i was

02:57:25.940 discussing as based on the hadith and so forth you're not supposed to christians who are conquered

02:57:30.760 they can live and pay tribute but they can't build their churches so until today in a modern nation

02:57:35.920 like egypt you have that law or kernels of it still exist okay and it came out because it finally

02:57:41.280 came out that when you do all the number crunching for every one church that christians have muslims

02:57:47.360 have 60 if you if you even up their numbers as population i mean think about how obvious

02:57:52.320 discrimination that is okay and they're also but egypt's publicly will tell everyone the world no

02:57:57.500 no we treat our citizens the same okay they all have the same religious freedom but one to 60

02:58:02.740 that ratio is pretty you know pretty telling so but egypt you know its constitution article 2 says

02:58:10.040 we trace our legislation to sharia and so it's even in their it's in the constitution so as long

02:58:16.100 Muslims are going to live. It's just plain and simple. The Islamic law, Islamic teaching is

02:58:20.880 black and white, and it is divisive. It is discriminatory, and it does incite violence

02:58:26.320 against the non-Muslim. That's it. Now, to what extent Muslims are going to enforce that or live

02:58:32.000 up to it? Maybe some don't care. In that case, you can live with them. I often give a good

02:58:38.000 analogy. I try to understand what a moderate Muslim is. It's the Nazi analogy, which is

02:58:46.080 little you know here we go hear me out hear me out it doesn't sound so bad you hear me out okay so

02:58:52.300 he went there no no all right well here's what i'm saying nazism is a body of teachings it's

02:58:59.640 an ideology okay and it has supremacy white supremacist ideas in it okay and it has other

02:59:04.980 teachings whatever national socialists they come to power um and then you got a guy like oscar

02:59:11.100 schindler all right and he was a nazi he was an actual ranking nazi and you know his story he

02:59:16.200 saved jews and etc and he went out of his way and you know no small threat to himself but he was a

02:59:22.080 nazi okay so my question to you is what he did his good deed was that an aspect of his personality

02:59:30.220 of him rising above nazism or was he practicing a moderate form of nazism okay i think you're

02:59:37.160 going to tell me he just rose above it and did not implement the, you know, the, the supremacist

02:59:42.440 aspect, killing Jews, whatever. Okay. He rose above it. And that's how we have to understand

02:59:47.260 Muslims and moderate Muslims. Okay. The Islam has its negative teachings, its violence,

02:59:52.100 its divisiveness, its hate. Okay. If a Muslim doesn't act that way and there, I mean, no,

02:59:56.760 there are, I know there's Muslims that don't do that. Okay. And they're good people. Is that

03:00:00.680 because they're practicing moderate Islam or is it because they rose above it? See, when you say

03:00:05.560 that, all of a sudden people want to say, no, no, it's a moderate Islam, but they won't do that

03:00:08.700 with Nazism. They'll say, no, Nazism is what it is. It's a violent supremacist. I think the obvious

03:00:14.840 problem with that analogy is that moderate Muslims will, who I speak to on this show,

03:00:20.140 will rather than rising above Islam, they'll appeal to other scripture. And then they'll say,

03:00:25.200 there's a contention here, there's a contradiction. So we're going to appeal to this

03:00:28.460 and this one where it says, you know, they will do that. You're right. But what I'm saying is,

03:00:33.600 Which is not, you can't do that with Nazism.

03:00:35.480 You can't appeal to another side of Nazism.

03:00:37.920 Well, no, I would argue what's happening is they're being disingenuous, okay?

03:00:42.060 They're making an appeal saying, oh, no, there's a way around this.

03:00:46.000 And I'm telling you, no, there isn't, okay?

03:00:48.240 So, yeah, it would be like a Nazi telling you, no, no, wait, there's aspects of Nazism

03:00:52.760 where it allows for this, and you and I know there isn't, you know?

03:00:56.680 So give me an example of what they would say, for example.

03:00:58.820 Unfortunately, I'm not equipped enough to have this argument.

03:01:01.720 but I would say that there's enough contradiction within the Quran that it's clear that they would

03:01:08.400 have a problem where there might not be the same contradictions in Nazism. It's pretty clear cut

03:01:13.200 what they thought about the Jews. Okay, so if you're the kind of Muslim who is,

03:01:17.360 I'm going to read the Quran and understand it my own way, and that's fine, then yeah,

03:01:20.760 you can do that. But to be a true Sunni Muslim, that's not how it works. You have to follow the

03:01:25.620 interpretation, the exegesis of the authorities, and all of them are unequivocal about the

03:01:31.700 topics that we're discussing because they're so ironclad so again you know for example there's

03:01:36.020 a movement among muslims and it's a good movement they're called quranists what they want to do is

03:01:40.900 just the only book they look at is the quran and they're done with the seer and the sunnah

03:01:45.460 the hadith and that would be great because honestly a lot of the most troubling teachings

03:01:49.620 come from the hadith not so much the quran the quran is very poetic okay and so that would be

03:01:55.780 a great thing but they're a tiny tiny minority they're not even one percent of the muslim

03:01:59.220 population okay so you can do that and they do exist um muslims like that and that's more power

03:02:04.880 to them but if you're being a standard i'm a sunni muslim who's just following the traditions of my

03:02:09.500 fathers and i belong to one of the four medaib they have four schools of law which are very

03:02:13.960 very similar they just have nuanced differences but they agree about what we're talking about

03:02:17.740 when i execute the apostate or punish him at least blaspheming you know etc keeping christians

03:02:23.460 and jews suppressed war on the infidel these are non-negotiables okay so if you're that kind of

03:02:28.600 muslim yeah i mean i can say to the infidel no no there's there's a way around this but that would

03:02:34.240 be like me telling someone who's ignorant of nazism and i'd be like no in nazism there's there's you

03:02:39.680 know there's room for jews and you know and non-aryans to live in peace and okay you'll believe

03:02:45.880 it but it's i'm just saying that you know they can say whatever they want and they can believe

03:02:50.780 it and they there can be large numbers of muslims who live that way but they're not this is not in

03:02:55.200 accordance with Islamic, mainstream Islam, just like a Nazi can say, no, no, I love non-Aryans,

03:03:02.720 but yeah, that's not in accordance with Nazi ideology.

03:03:05.720 Right. We mentioned right at the beginning of this conversation that we would look at

03:03:09.460 your work on exposing the terrible treatment of Christians by Muslims around the world. Now,

03:03:15.360 it's been an amazing long conversation so far, so I appreciate that I'm breaching a new topic,

03:03:22.060 but perhaps we can touch on some of the most recent things, and then I'll put listeners to

03:03:27.340 go to your reporting on your website. But maybe we'll just stick with 2025 and what's happening.

03:03:33.820 We've had some reports from Congo, Nigeria, and even Syria, although it's very mixed reporting

03:03:39.260 on Syria, and I'm not sure how true it is there. But I wondered if you could explain what's going

03:03:45.660 on. So, you know, the persecution of Christians, and it really does tells

03:03:49.180 wonderfully with what we're talking about because it's again it's part of the continuum uh the

03:03:53.020 persecution of christians by muslims has always been there from the very beginning because most

03:03:57.140 of muslim lands are in christian territory um and that's why so many of them ended up converting to

03:04:02.080 islam and you have small minorities and that's why they disappeared in some areas so the copts for

03:04:06.680 example used you know the word coptic for example just to give you an idea of how infused with

03:04:10.780 christianity is you know the word egyptian that's the greek word which is egyptos and um when the

03:04:16.140 Arab conquerors of Egypt came, they took the word for native Egyptian, Aegyptos, but they just took

03:04:20.680 the middle syllable, gypt, and that became transliterated into copt for us. So it just

03:04:26.800 means Egyptian, but it means Christian because all the Egyptians were Christians. So copt means

03:04:31.440 Christian and Egyptian. Anyway, so they went from being the majority, almost 100%, to now they're

03:04:36.560 10% because of 14 centuries of discrimination and, you know, sporadic persecution, which is

03:04:42.240 well documented by the way anyone who's interesting can get a book called a sword a sword over the

03:04:47.600 nile which is uh it's not my book but it's really great because it's based on the primary sources

03:04:51.780 of what happened um to the christians of egypt anyway what's interesting is if you fast forward

03:04:57.900 so okay during the attacks on christians of the middle east egypt syria everywhere it was again

03:05:03.360 attacks on churches attacks on their persons of course extorting money from them as a form of

03:05:09.040 jizya tribute enslaving their women and children etc that's still going on okay and it's in all

03:05:15.440 um sorry so people in the chat i'm i'm just eating like a salmon poke bowl so it's just like

03:05:23.120 salmon sashimi with like brown rice and and greens so there you go nothing nothing fancy

03:05:34.640 all the islamic worlds to different degrees uh maybe you've heard of a group called open doors

03:05:40.760 um okay so it's a humanitarian christian international organization which has been

03:05:44.820 around for decades and every cent every year they publish a report it's called the world watch list

03:05:50.180 and it ranks the 50 worst nations to be a christian where christians are most persecuted

03:05:54.760 and i look i write about it every year and you know it habitually 37 38 of the 50 are muslim

03:06:00.500 nations and i mean that to me is he went by you know what the the podcast guy went by way too

03:06:12.580 quickly on that so why don't we look that up what was it world watch list

03:06:19.760 hmm let's see here oh okay so raymond ibrahim was saying that um the vast majority of

03:06:37.440 of countries where christians are persecuted um are muslim let's check that theory

03:06:47.680 out because one thing that the jihadis and islamists like to say is that you know

03:06:56.920 the religion of peace religion of peace you know supports everyone um and yet that's not the case

03:07:04.640 at all so let's just let's let's let's fact check what raymond ibrahim was saying because i know a

03:07:13.040 lot of people um who know nothing about this are going to be triggered because they're going to

03:07:18.000 think that what he's saying is bigoted um or you know islamophobic but uh here we go okay so

03:07:24.660 this is um world watch list 2025 um the world watch list is open doors annual ranking of the

03:07:34.280 50 countries where christians face the most extreme persecution explore each country profile

03:07:40.860 I'll download the detailed dossiers for in-depth information about following Jesus in the most

03:07:48.260 dangerous places. You'll learn more about Christian persecution and discover how to

03:07:54.260 stand with your brothers and sisters in prayer and actions. So as you can see, this is the map here.

03:08:02.660 um the map is very very similar to what the map of um you know islamic conquest looks like right

03:08:13.200 like you basically got the middle east um northern africa and of course you know some

03:08:19.820 some communist countries communist muslim countries as well like china and oh look of

03:08:25.520 course there is the Islamic Republic, um, of Iran, which is the number nine worst list. So why don't

03:08:32.840 we, why don't we take out these countries? Okay. So here are, um, the worst countries. How does

03:08:40.280 this, how does this show up on, wait, does this show up okay on the live stream? Let me, let me

03:08:46.420 check my YouTube here and see how this shows up. Cause I just, I just maximized, um, my screen

03:08:52.800 on the laptop, but I don't know if this is showing up properly on. Okay. No, it's, it's showing up.

03:09:02.120 Okay. So you guys can see everything. All right. Okay. I just checked on my phone to make sure

03:09:05.960 that you guys can see the live stream. So at number one is North Korea. North Korea is the

03:09:11.940 worst for the persecution of Christians. Oh, look, number two is Somalia. Isn't that interesting?

03:09:18.180 You know what, guys? At some point, I will be doing a live stream and possibly several videos about what is happening in the United States with, you know, all the Somalians who are defrauding American taxpayers.

03:09:35.300 However, isn't it interesting here? Here's the interesting thing. Isn't it interesting? And I can't see your comments because I'm live screened on like, I'm widescreen on the this website here. So I'll check your comments after but isn't it interesting how Somalia is the top country, aside from North Korea, by the way, Somalia is the top country

03:10:05.300 for the persecution of Christians. And yet all these Somalis are coming to America,

03:10:12.660 which is basically a Christian country. And they've defrauded America out of what,

03:10:20.240 like over $8 billion? I don't know. You know, something to think about, right? Okay. Yeah.

03:10:26.980 yemen libya sudan eritrea nigeria yes of course because of the nigerian um genocide the muslim

03:10:37.140 genocide of christians in nigeria something that i have uh spoken about on my live stream

03:10:44.340 oh look pakistan yeah pakistan you have like the horror stories i hear from

03:10:51.060 pakistani christians about about how they're treated um by

03:10:56.980 by Muslim Pakistanis. It's horrific. Iran, 100%, of course, Iran is there because

03:11:04.260 the Islamic dictatorship took over in 1979. They've been persecuting all of us, right? All of us

03:11:12.600 since then, regardless of religion. Afghanistan, India, that's interesting. India, I didn't know

03:11:19.320 that. India needs to do better. I did not know that. That's not good. Saudi Arabia, of course,

03:11:29.860 Saudi Arabia, Myanmar, because it's a communist country. Mali, yep, Mali, China. Oh yeah,

03:11:36.900 Maldives for sure. Yep, Iraq, Syria, Algeria, Burkina Faso, Morocco. There we go. Bangladesh,

03:11:45.100 Mauritania, Uzbekistan, Cuba, right? So as you can see, guys, as you can see the countries that

03:11:51.580 are persecuting, here, let me minimize this so I can actually see the comments now here, because I

03:11:57.900 haven't been able to see any of the comments. So as you can see, the countries that persecute

03:12:04.140 Christians are either Muslim countries or they are communist. So yeah, it's tough, right? And

03:12:21.080 before anyone says, oh, like Goldie is, you know, like attacking all these countries. Listen,

03:12:28.140 I call out Iran all the time. Like, literally, like, I call out Iran all the time. That is,

03:12:35.740 you know, where I'm from. I should actually do a video on the effort that Iranians go to

03:12:49.480 to call out Islamic terrorists and radicals from Iran. Like, you guys have no idea.

03:12:56.300 Um, this didn't even make it into mainstream media, but just recently the Iranian community from around the world and even inside of occupied Iran, um, they banded together and they raised so much awareness about this Iranian woman who was a university professor at some, I can't remember what university it was, but she was a university professor there.

03:13:26.300 i don't know i think she was like head of middle east studies or something like her name is like

03:13:29.900 shirin i don't know something and iranians raised so much awareness about her because she was out

03:13:37.980 there promoting the islamic republic she was putting out like anti-semitic nonsense and

03:13:45.420 she was um you know attacking israel and attacking iranians fighting against the islam

03:13:51.260 islamic republic and she was actually um um hired within like um some some university united states

03:14:01.260 i can't remember now which one it was but iranians put so much effort into raising awareness about

03:14:06.780 this that we just got the news a few days ago that she was actually fired from her university

03:14:14.460 academia position because of the fact that she was promoting the Islamic Republic. So

03:14:22.980 we Iranians, we are very, very good at self-regulating our community. And we will call

03:14:34.340 out the Islamic extremists within our community. And a lot of you don't know this, but

03:14:44.180 um, I have a lot of support from Iranians and occupied Iran, um, who either follow me on X

03:14:54.520 or on YouTube or on Instagram. And, um, they are the silent majority who watch me, support me,

03:15:04.420 share my videos. And you don't really hear from them because, you know, many of them,

03:15:12.080 um they don't feel comfortable speaking in English or you know typing in English um so that's why

03:15:20.060 sometimes like in in the YouTube live chat you'll see you know people typing in Farsi um but the

03:15:28.140 reason that they follow me and support me is because even though they might not be comfortable

03:15:31.420 speaking in English or typing in English um they understand like the vast majority of Iranians

03:15:36.900 understand English, right? So even Iranians in occupied Iran. But they follow me, they support

03:15:43.340 me. And that's because everything that I say, everything that I share with you, this isn't just

03:15:51.640 my personal opinion. I'm pretty much sharing the views of the vast majority of Iranians. And I can

03:16:01.160 tell you right now that we as a community we are very very good at self-regulating so um given the

03:16:10.480 fact that I have been on the scene for like I don't know what over 10 years um every single

03:16:18.640 Iranian has probably already done like a background check on me to see like you know whether or not

03:16:24.720 I'm affiliated with the Islamic regime or any other like you know groups or or whatever and

03:16:29.520 you know, of course I've passed because I'm not affiliated with any of them. Um, but all that to

03:16:34.520 say, if for, for all of you, you know, everyone who's not Iranian, I can tell you right now that

03:16:44.360 if anything that I was saying about Iran or Islamic terrorism or what Iranians think, um,

03:16:52.360 was untrue, you guys would know about it because I would have been canceled by now.

03:16:58.940 So, um, that's why we Iranians are very, very good at self-regulating, but you guys, you,

03:17:08.020 you don't hear about it because it never makes it into the mainstream media. Um, but yeah,

03:17:14.420 like I'm, I'm happy to, um, I'll make a video about that universe, that American university

03:17:21.220 professor who was, you know, Iranian and she was, she was basically a terrorist. Right.

03:17:26.280 So I'll make a video about her.

03:17:28.120 So all that to say, I call out everyone equally.

03:17:34.640 I don't care where you're from.

03:17:35.920 If you're a jihadi, if you're an Islamic terrorist, I will call you out.

03:17:40.500 And in fact, if you're an Islamic terrorist from Iran, I will go above and beyond to call

03:17:50.100 you out and expose you because it is my responsibility as an Iranian to point out

03:17:57.900 who the bad apples are to the rest of the world. So just wanted to put that out there.

03:18:06.060 So yeah, I treat everyone equally, but for the Islamic terrorists who are Iranian,

03:18:15.020 they get special treatment they get special treatment and they all um have they all have a

03:18:23.880 place in hell waiting for them all right end of my little rant there but there you go so this so

03:18:29.280 that's this is the list that um raymond ibrahim was talking about when he was speaking about the

03:18:34.140 world watch list of the top 50 countries where christians are the most persecuted and um yeah

03:18:43.640 the top 50 countries are either communist or Muslim. The vast majority of the countries where

03:18:49.340 Christians are persecuted are Muslim, right? So the next time someone says, oh, Islam, religion

03:18:55.600 of peace, or the next time these radical jihadis come to Christian countries and complain about

03:19:03.720 persecution, maybe, maybe instead in response, you should pull up this list and be like, oh,

03:19:10.780 that's very interesting. You, you want to talk about being persecuted in Christian countries.

03:19:15.460 What about the millions of Christians who are being persecuted in Muslim countries? And all

03:19:22.940 of you are denying it, right? There you go. All right, let's continue.

03:19:28.440 Telling, right? It's like almost every Muslim nation, there is a form, a kind of Christian

03:19:33.040 persecution. Some are worse than others. Okay. Now we can go to Africa. That's the worst.

03:19:37.100 sub-Saharan Africa. That, according to a lot of human rights groups, there's a genocide in

03:19:42.380 Nigeria. And I follow it closely. And I think every week I have to read about dozens of Christians

03:19:47.680 being killed by Muslims. And of course, the media, they tell you, no, no, this is about climate

03:19:54.260 change. One group is being pushed out and they're attacking another group.

03:19:58.400 Oh, they actually do that?

03:19:59.900 What?

03:20:00.380 Yes, they do that. Actually. Yeah. And they don't tell you that the ones being pushed out are all

03:20:05.960 muslims and the ones being killed are all christians okay no they actually do that so what

03:20:11.040 what's happening then in nigeria uh you have muslim groups first you had the terrorist group

03:20:15.780 called boko haram which means western education is a sin and all they've been doing is a

03:20:21.360 boko haram yeah haram is sin so haram haram um boko haram is also funded by the muslim

03:20:31.300 brotherhood remember the muslim brotherhood is um a terrorist organization that has been banned in

03:20:39.620 several middle eastern countries and now more recently um has been banned in florida and texas

03:20:47.200 attacking and killing christians but now you have what's called the fulani their herdsmen okay who

03:20:52.860 live in in the cattle they graze their cattle and they're attacking the christians who are sedentary

03:20:58.800 okay and they're just butchering and killing them and taking over their land and of course

03:21:03.900 also engaging in destroying their churches and other the hallmarks of attacks on christianity

03:21:09.160 that emphasize that there's an ideological component but if you talk to the professionals

03:21:14.600 and the media it has nothing to do with religion it literally it's climate change because the

03:21:19.340 pastoral fulani are being pushed out and they are just they need more land so they attack these but

03:21:25.600 for some reason they only attack christians uh never muslim sedentary areas yeah and what how

03:21:31.780 exactly does climate change force them to kill exactly where's the motivation no no a lot of i

03:21:38.560 remember the i think it was the irish president who came out and made a big scene about no this

03:21:42.720 is climate change don't talk about islam wait so um someone said i'm just like the fbi um no i'm

03:21:52.380 not like the fbi i'm actually more like um massad so yeah just just yeah i'm more like massad um

03:22:02.920 it's islam means peace and this was like a year ago and uh it's like mostly peaceful climate change

03:22:08.620 yeah and then the next day you know muslims attack a church in nigeria and kill like 50 people and

03:22:13.560 and all of a sudden that too is not about religion um i mean they i've really followed this and the

03:22:19.360 the little the acrobatics they play to just make you think this isn't about religion are amazing

03:22:24.480 even though it's so obvious about i once quoted a nun a black nun from nigeria who's like you know

03:22:30.160 it's it's hard for us not to believe this is about religion when they're dressed in black screaming

03:22:33.760 allah akbar and break the cross you know and you told me it's about climate change so so he makes

03:22:40.240 a very good point and if you go back and if you look at my live streams where i speak about the

03:22:46.160 Nigerian genocide, you know, the Muslim genocide of Christians in Nigeria.

03:22:51.760 That's exactly what I say. I also mentioned the same thing in Sudan. I'm like,

03:22:58.880 like, exactly what he said. No, like, normal person, like, okay, so let's start, let me rephrase

03:23:06.800 this. If the issue was about climate change, right, climate change, why are Muslims going

03:23:16.520 around yelling Allahu Akbar while they are murdering Christians, right? Like, how is that

03:23:24.520 anything to do with climate change? It's literally jihad. That's been the pattern of jihad for 1400

03:23:30.600 years um and yet they want to try and gaslight nigerians and the rest of the world into thinking

03:23:40.580 that um this is about climate change like it's just it's nonsense it's insane and this is i mean

03:23:49.160 this is a kind of gaslighting um that we have to deal with that's nigeria but in sub-saharan

03:23:56.420 in nigeria do you have a sense of the death talk um i've seen various reports and it apparently

03:24:02.180 got really really bad starting around 2009 um and it's been going on and off but i would say

03:24:08.100 you know maybe 70 000 yeah just butchered and what has the christian response been to that

03:24:16.180 the nigerian christian or nigerian or oh wait someone said um aloha akbar means

03:24:22.580 god is greater than jesus and moses if you don't know that you're probably non-arab um i am 100

03:24:30.980 percent non-arab um i'm iranian and uh yeah aloha akbar means allah is great it doesn't mean it

03:24:38.500 doesn't mean god is great because god um that's a different word in arabic that's ilah um allah

03:24:46.980 Allah is the name of the Muslim god so when they say Allah Akbar what they're saying is Allah is

03:24:55.340 greater than all the other gods the greater Christian the greater Christian response is

03:25:01.720 it's not happening you know and there's nothing to see here you know black lives apparently only

03:25:05.940 matter if they're not Christian you know it's it's really it's it's one of those things where

03:25:12.340 if it was the opposite if this was let's say Muslims being killed by Christians this would

03:25:16.100 be on the news nonstop. Everyone would know about it, you know, but such as it is. And again,

03:25:23.380 why do you think that the Christians don't care about this?

03:25:26.340 I mean, I think to a great degree, a lot of them don't know. So they're basically just

03:25:30.580 misled by the media that they trust. You know, Fox News isn't going to talk about this either,

03:25:35.460 right? So for whatever reason, this isn't a topic for them.

03:25:38.260 But I'd have hoped to let the Church of England or the leaders of the churches

03:25:41.700 who do know about it, they absolutely know about it, would be every single day,

03:25:45.140 But you know also a lot of these churches don't want to antagonize Muslims, and they're more excited and more proud about holding hands with a Muslim imam and showing their wonderful ecumenicism reach out.

03:25:58.860 So a lot of them don't want to—Pope Francis, you know, he writes encyclicals about this and that.

03:26:04.300 How about Christians being butchered left and right, you know?

03:26:08.820 Any word on that?

03:26:10.020 Nope.

03:26:10.180 we don't want to talk so again you have to understand that amongst christians of all

03:26:13.800 denominations there's this political correctness this need to like make muslims look good and you

03:26:19.220 know etc etc so oh um keith thank you for the support so keith says i am from the uk have you

03:26:29.080 seen what is going on in my country yes keith i have seen what is going on in the uk um it is

03:26:37.200 incredibly scary. I'm actually working on gathering some videos and information

03:26:43.680 so that I can either do a live stream or make a video about how the current government in the UK

03:26:52.800 is working on a definition of anti-Muslim hostility. UK is a nightmare right now.

03:27:00.480 Like, um, UK is pretty much conquered and, uh, yeah, like, um, I, I, I have a lot to say about

03:27:11.060 the UK, but, um, terrible, terrible times right now. Um, for the, I feel like freedom of speech

03:27:18.800 is gone in the UK. Like, like you guys just don't even have the ability to, um, speak out and

03:27:26.580 criticize. So yeah, no, I'm, I'm very, very familiar with what's going on in the UK. I

03:27:34.220 completely sympathize. Listen, Canada's pretty much almost there. I'm in Canada. We're almost

03:27:39.480 there. Like maybe like one step behind. So yeah, but I'll, I'll definitely, um, speak about that

03:27:46.920 as well in future live streams and, uh, you know, welcome to my channel and thank you for the

03:27:52.940 support appreciate that they don't want to talk about it it's uh if you talk about christian

03:28:00.420 persecution you totally overthrow the narrative that they've been trying to build because you

03:28:05.460 know if you talk about muslims attacking israel okay it kind of makes sense because they're the

03:28:09.280 underdog they're angry they're fighting back okay but if you look at the muslim world and you

03:28:13.580 realize muslims are dominant there and they're persecuting their tiny minorities simply because

03:28:18.820 of religious differences, because they're not Muslims, then you start realizing, okay, so Muslims

03:28:23.580 are just intolerant. And maybe this isn't about what's happening in Israel. Maybe this is just

03:28:29.680 something among them. So that I've noticed, and I've been following this and writing about it a

03:28:35.020 lot, Muslim persecution of Christians has been one of those most no-no topics. We don't want to go

03:28:40.700 there because there's no rationale to it. Muslims attack Israel, Muslim bomb Western cities. Oh,

03:28:47.440 they have grievances, oh, this, oh, that. But if you find it's an institutionalized

03:28:52.200 discrimination and persecution of minorities simply because they're not Muslim, how do

03:28:55.960 you get around that? Well, the way you get around it is you don't talk about it.

03:28:58.920 And you put that back to that Quran that you cited earlier about the people of the book.

03:29:03.540 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's one of the verses. Yeah, fight the people of the book, Quran 929.

03:29:09.560 But there's others in the Hadith telling you how to treat Christians. If you see a Christian

03:29:13.900 you're Jew, you have to push them against the wall. Don't say salam, don't say hello to Christians

03:29:19.120 and Jews. All sorts of things. You have to hate them, even though you have to live with them,

03:29:23.880 et cetera, et cetera. So yeah, it all traces back to these scriptural injunctions.

03:29:28.380 So we've covered Nigeria and you've written about what's going on in Congo.

03:29:35.140 That's also come up in the news this year.

03:29:36.960 Yeah, I know. Well, I think a month ago or so, maybe two months ago, they entered a church and

03:29:42.520 found 70 decapitated christians okay and it was by an islamic terror group which funny enough goes

03:29:48.980 by the its name is something democracy okay uh it's it's part of this group called uh i i forget

03:29:56.520 but if you look it up something democracy and they're a rebel group and it sounds like they're

03:30:00.880 leftist and maybe they have leftist elements um but they also have a jihadist wing who does what

03:30:06.260 you know decapitated 70 christians again if you look into it you know if you dig in you're going

03:30:11.740 see the hallmarks oh this is about ideology it's about hatred for christians okay the narrative no

03:30:17.580 this is just some rebel group and uh those are just poor innocent victims that were caught up

03:30:22.140 in the war and and it gets very you know it's very hygienic and we don't talk about the religious

03:30:27.580 element okay you could come if you're following the mainstream media right but if you you know

03:30:32.620 look into it as i do and i look at all the sources it's very clear what's going on is it is it worse

03:30:37.900 you said earlier it's worse than africa right is it worse than africa because that's the continent

03:30:41.980 where most christians and muslims are living side by side that's a good question and i think that

03:30:46.300 is part of it well i guess europe more probably yeah but i mean for example in nigeria is literally

03:30:51.900 50 50. you know it's 50 christian 50 muslim and isn't that interesting that it's like a full-blown

03:30:57.740 civil war essentially going on over there um yeah there's this idea about you know islam popular

03:31:03.020 muslim populations as it grows uh and this is sort of historically demonstrable but you know

03:31:09.260 if it's a small population let's say one percent which is like america yeah they're just going to

03:31:13.500 be sort of vocal kind of from a you know my rights type thing like leftist groups let's say

03:31:18.940 but when they become like let's say 10 then like in europe in certain countries and cities

03:31:24.060 then you get a lot of criminality and you get these enclaves and no-go zones so i've heard by

03:31:29.500 various sources. Um, and then when it grows, let's say 50%, now you have a war, you have a full

03:31:34.160 jihad. Okay. When it keeps growing and now it's 70, 80%, then the, you know, the infidel is

03:31:39.940 completely suppressed. Look at Saudi Arabia. You can't even, you can't even have a church or

03:31:44.180 anything there. Um, or they're suppressed, you know, tremendously. Uh, so it's actually, it's,

03:31:50.000 it's very unwavering. And for Europe, it's unfortunate because these numbers, I saw a

03:31:54.000 Pew polls say, like, in 2050, you know, in Germany, Muslims are going to be, like, 40% of the population.

03:32:00.600 I mean, at that point, yeah, it's going to be like Nigeria.

03:32:03.060 It's going to be a war, because why not?

03:32:07.860 I mentioned Syria.

03:32:11.540 There's mixed reporting here, so I'm hesitant to say that there's—

03:32:15.020 I am, too, yeah.

03:32:15.720 Right, yeah.

03:32:16.440 You agree with my position?

03:32:17.620 Yeah, it's very confusing what's really going on.

03:32:20.380 Sometimes you hear it's Christian, sometimes you hear it's not.

03:32:22.560 it's you know aloes and it's yeah it's right we have to wait for this you know smoke to settle

03:32:27.420 kind of yeah um well i encourage uh listeners and viewers to go to your web page where you have all

03:32:35.080 of this i mean i couldn't quite believe it when i went on because it's you've been documenting

03:32:39.020 these attacks on christians for oh yeah many many many 2012 i think no no it's 2011 sorry

03:32:46.300 Okay, so well over a decade. And as far as I found, and including Christian websites, this is the most thorough documentation.

03:32:56.380 Thank you, yeah.

03:32:57.280 And it's pretty shocking stuff, and perhaps something that we can go into on another conversation.

03:33:06.220 But, Raymond, before we close out, we've covered so much

03:33:09.560 and we've swept through 1,400 years of history

03:33:13.000 and couldn't obviously possibly complete every sentence.

03:33:19.180 But is there anything you want to add before we close this out?

03:33:24.640 We have a new member.

03:33:26.580 Okay, so welcome, Bob Mander.

03:33:30.020 Thank you for joining Goldie's Gang.

03:33:33.720 Thank you for your support.

03:33:34.840 really appreciate that i hope you're enjoying the live stream um and just to let you know um

03:33:41.380 i do members only live streams and after parties but those only happen um during the day so i i do

03:33:50.280 my like usual um you know the goldie show podcast at 12 noon eastern that goes from 12 noon until

03:33:59.160 2 p.m. And then at 2 p.m. I do the members only after party. So welcome so much. Thank you for

03:34:05.940 the support. I hope you're enjoying the live stream. And yeah, it's great. Great to have you

03:34:11.660 on board. And I look forward to chatting with you in the members only live streams. Oh my gosh,

03:34:19.420 we have another member. Whoa. All right, Mort. Thank you. Welcome. Welcome to Goldie's gang.

03:34:26.300 um oh wait michael says goldie's gang would be an awesome name for a band

03:34:34.280 guys i'm you know what so i initially started out with with goldie's gang oh no what happened

03:34:40.540 to my internet where is it um i initially started out with goldie's gang but now i'm thinking of

03:34:49.360 changing, changing the membership name. I'll, I'll do a post about it in the members only

03:34:56.080 message board and I'll get your opinions on it. Like I'll do a poll. Um, but I'm going to see if

03:35:01.940 I should keep the name of, um, members to Goldie's gang, or if I should change the name to the

03:35:13.040 infidels so there you go um i'll do a post on the members only message board and of course um all

03:35:20.320 you members can uh decide whether or not you want to stick with goldie's gang or if you want to

03:35:26.400 switch to the infidels i'll leave it up to you um oh wow oh my gosh we have another member

03:35:33.760 what's up canadian i love that i love that welcome welcome to goldie's gang thank you

03:35:40.960 for the support really appreciate that um you know love canadians love canada of course there

03:35:48.720 you see i am a proud canadian so what's up canada all right let's get into the final few minutes

03:35:56.800 here um oh this is interesting okay so mort is say the golden infidels okay all right so

03:36:08.000 So what I'll do is, okay, so I'll make a poll.

03:36:12.020 I'll see if people want Goldie's Gang, the infidels, the golden infidels, or, you know, others.

03:36:18.840 So I'll put that in the members-only message board after this live stream.

03:36:23.880 I'll do a poll, and then, you know, let's see what happens.

03:36:28.760 So, but yeah, thank you.

03:36:30.120 Thank you so much for joining.

03:36:31.380 Thank you for the support.

03:36:32.980 Really do appreciate that, and welcome.

03:36:35.820 Guys, we're going to have a lot of fun.

03:36:37.260 like i'm i'm just kind of getting warmed up i'm just getting started but uh there's gonna be a

03:36:42.660 lot more um members only perks as as um the channel grows and i kind of you know get into

03:36:50.280 get into my groove and everything right um about everything we've discussed any important

03:36:57.000 ingredients you think i might have skimmed over too quickly no i just you know to you know to

03:37:01.520 cap it off is just really to emphasize that there's such a you know a gap in people's knowledge

03:37:06.480 and it's by design you know this isn't just ignorance because whatever it's been for decades

03:37:11.600 building up where information like i said fake history which is more potent in many ways in fake

03:37:16.760 news um has been like accelerating and so people really need to um educate themselves and don't

03:37:23.080 look to the professionals because you know they're not going to do it because a lot of them and a lot

03:37:27.200 of them maybe even agree with me but they have a career and they don't want to lose their job you

03:37:30.380 know what I mean so a lot of that so I think you just okay Bob you're terrible Goldie's Mossad

03:37:36.620 come on guys we have to at least like have some sort of semblance of like pretending right like

03:37:43.500 we we can't give away all of our Mossad secrets we can't make it um too too obvious that we're

03:37:51.220 Mossad so I don't know about that but I mean it is a good suggestion have to independently educate

03:37:58.100 yourself about the truth, about the history and about the doctrine of Islam. And, uh, if you do

03:38:03.560 that, you know, it'll all fall into play and I'm not trying to promote anger or hatred. My thing

03:38:08.460 is I believe the more we have truth, the more we could act on it and the better, but if truth is

03:38:12.840 suppressed, then there's no remedy because you can't fix something until you acknowledge the

03:38:17.060 issue. Yeah. You know, and if you just let it fester and boil and simmer over, well, that's

03:38:21.440 just even worse. So the number one thing I would just tell people to objectively educate themselves

03:38:26.440 on these topics and I think everything else will fall into place yeah you've mentioned a couple of

03:38:31.160 your books are there any others that you want listeners and viewers to know about and where

03:38:37.840 can they find you online your social media and website and so my website is basically my name

03:38:43.740 raymondibrahim.com and there you'll get all my articles my videos I make YouTube videos too you

03:38:49.780 can see me there and I have social media links to the ones even though most of them I'm shadow

03:38:54.280 banned on, because nobody sees anything that I post, they tell me. But the books, I would say,

03:38:59.940 if you want to do what I just said, educate yourself. The number one book that I wrote

03:39:03.880 would be Sword and Scimitar, 14 Centuries of War Between Islam, because I give the bare-bone

03:39:08.380 theology and doctrine that you need to understand about Islam without going into every detail.

03:39:13.400 And then I give the history that we just discussed, and I really document it. And I go all the way up

03:39:18.060 until the present and show the parallels. So I would, you know, that would be the book that I

03:39:23.080 would uh primarily suggest for anyone yeah um raymond i would like to say it was a pleasure

03:39:27.940 speaking of you but frankly it's a jarring it's been it's been hard uh brutal uh history and

03:39:34.760 particularly what's going on that was kind of rude like did i misinterpret that or was that

03:39:42.520 like just british rudeness because he's like i wish i could say it was nice speaking to you but

03:39:48.340 that was uncomfortable. I don't know. Did I misinterpret that? Or like, I felt that was

03:39:54.600 very, very rude. Okay. I don't know. I didn't, I didn't like that. He should have said it's a

03:40:05.360 pleasure. I mean, just because, just because you have a conversation that is difficult for you to

03:40:11.080 have because, you know, you want to be politically correct and someone's taking you out of your

03:40:18.400 comfort zone. Um, doesn't mean that you should say it wasn't a pleasure speaking to you. I don't

03:40:24.240 know. Was, was he being sarcastic? All right, let's go back. Let's go back and listen to this

03:40:29.000 again. Cause I don't want to judge. Um, so let's, geez, I'm like right at the end too. Okay. So

03:40:35.120 I'll go back a little bit. I don't know. You guys tell, am I reading too much into this? Cause I,

03:40:39.780 i thought that was rude maybe i'm just not understanding like the british commentary here

03:40:45.480 because um you know i'm canadian but let's see okay one thing i would just tell people to

03:40:51.800 objectively educate themselves on these topics and i think everything else will fall into place

03:40:56.760 yeah you've mentioned a couple of your books are there any others that you want listeners and

03:41:02.360 viewers to know about and where can they find you online your social media and website and so my

03:41:09.460 website is basically my name okay all all the brits are telling me that it's humor okay i will

03:41:15.700 accept that i will accept british humor because honestly like i don't even understand half of

03:41:22.100 british humor the only british humor that i really understand is monty python and mr bean and that's

03:41:28.500 it um like i've seen british sitcoms where apparently something funny is said and then

03:41:35.820 everyone's you know like you hear like this the the laugh track in the background and i'm just like

03:41:40.480 sitting there and i'm like i have no idea what happened right now i don't understand why this

03:41:44.400 is funny so i will take your word on that that he was meant to be sarcastic in raymondibrahim.com

03:41:52.380 and there you'll get all my articles my videos i make youtube videos too you can see me there and

03:41:58.180 i have social media links to the ones even though most of them i'm shadow banned on because nobody

03:42:02.960 sees anything that I post, they tell me. But the books, I would say, if you want to do what I just

03:42:08.100 said, educate yourself. The number one book that I wrote would be Sword and Scimitar, 14 Centuries

03:42:13.020 of War Between Islam, because I give the bare bones theology and doctrine that you need to

03:42:17.720 understand about Islam without going into every detail. And then I give the history that we just

03:42:22.200 discussed, and I really document it. And I go all the way up until the present and show the parallels.

03:42:27.900 So I would, you know, that would be the book that I would primarily suggest for anyone.

03:42:31.800 Yeah. Raymond, I would like to say it was a pleasure speaking with you, but frankly, it's been hard, brutal history. And particularly what's going on right now is really effective.

03:42:44.080 Well, try being me sometimes.

03:42:48.360 Raymond, Ibrahim, thank you so much for speaking with me.

03:42:51.400 My pleasure.

03:42:51.820 We must do it again.

03:42:52.720 I enjoyed it. Yes. Thank you.

03:42:54.920 Is the Mr. Tackofer? Is the Mr. Tackofer?

03:42:57.160 All right. Well, thank you, everyone, for joining me.

03:43:00.680 Um, this was a very, very, um, interesting live stream. I learned a lot from the documentary,

03:43:08.280 but more so, um, all of you in the YouTube chat, I don't know if it's something in the air. I don't

03:43:14.960 know if, because if Christmas is around the corner, I don't know if it's because you guys

03:43:18.580 are drinking something, no idea, but, but the YouTube chat was definitely, um, way more lively

03:43:25.900 and entertaining, um, than usual. So, uh, I did definitely appreciate that. And I appreciated

03:43:34.020 all of your comments. I enjoyed interacting with you guys and, um, Oh, we have, we have another

03:43:40.360 super chat here. So Johnny says, have a good night. Got to go to work in the morning, going

03:43:45.140 to Catholic. Oh my gosh. Going to Catholic Massad. Give my love to Iran. Well, thank you so much.

03:43:51.660 See you in the morning. I appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you so much, Johnny, for your support.

03:43:57.320 And, you know, have fun at Catholic Massad. So, yeah, guys, I hope you enjoyed that. So

03:44:03.120 for those of you who have just tuned into my live streams, just to let you know,

03:44:11.360 the evening live streams, a little bit more chill, you know, we're just kind of watching

03:44:14.920 documentaries, learning stuff, gives me an opportunity to be more interactive with all of you.

03:44:21.080 in the YouTube live chat. My daily live streams that I do at 12 noon Eastern, those ones are

03:44:30.740 definitely more serious, a little bit less interaction with the chat because I'm focused

03:44:35.300 more on sharing information and educating and speaking. So during the days, I'm definitely

03:44:44.300 much more serious. You're not going to see me laughing at everything because that's what I

03:44:48.080 have like my you know politician face on but you know in the evenings is when I'm you know a little

03:44:53.220 bit more chill so there you go um Jane thank you so much for the super sticker I hope you enjoyed

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03:45:13.660 it. I don't see it. Like, I don't think I look like her at all whatsoever. Um, but sure. I don't

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03:45:34.820 gang, or if we want to change it to the infidels or I don't know, something else. So stay tuned for

03:45:41.780 that um thanks everyone for joining thank you for your support i had a fantastic evening um

03:45:48.740 And, uh, yeah, as always, I'll see you guys tomorrow.

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Goldie Ghamari - December 18, 2025

Islam Exposed： History of Islam with Raymond Ibrahim

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