Goldie Ghamari - King Reza Pahlavi： Iran Is Ready for Regime Change

00:00:00.000 who are iranians what do they say what do they think what are they capable of

00:00:08.800 why revolution who do you believe was behind it the cia

00:00:12.740 is a positive note to it

00:00:29.840 america might say

00:00:35.680 well we want to leave them alone they won't leave you alone

00:00:43.840 well hello everyone thank you for joining

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00:01:06.400 in the chat hi everyone happy friday so today we are going to be here we go today we are going to

00:01:17.520 be speaking about iran and the iranian uh revolution the current iranian revolution

00:01:25.280 we're also going to be touching upon the islamic i mean some people call it the revolution i prefer

00:01:32.640 to call it the islamic coup d'etat right because um it really was a hostile takeover and it wasn't

00:01:40.400 really a revolution in the sense that we think it is um a huge hello to everyone on youtube thank

00:01:47.840 you for joining me in the chat greetings to you i see people from south africa uh from israel

00:01:54.240 from united states from iran hello and welcome to you all all right so we are going to get started

00:02:01.520 this is a very important interview and it has not received enough attention

00:02:10.480 and i'm probably going to play this interview you know various clips of it several times because a

00:02:16.080 lot of people ask you know one of the biggest questions that non-iranians have is if iranians

00:02:24.080 hate the islamic republic you know if iranians don't want to be governed by islam um why did

00:02:31.280 they bring this in? Why did they choose this? The truth and the reality is that the 1979 0.78

00:02:38.360 revolution was not about Islam. In fact, the Islamists at the time who were getting involved 0.73

00:02:47.480 had made it very clear that they have no intention of ruling, right? They have no intention of

00:02:55.720 controlling Iran. And they also said, we have no intention of turning Iran into an Islamic state.

00:03:00.680 Of course, they lied, as Islamists do. It's part of taqiyya. It's, you know, how they operate. And so we're going to dive deep into what the current Shah of Iran in exile, His Royal Highness King Reza Pahlavi, thinks about all of this. 1.00

00:03:21.520 And he speaks very candidly. He speaks very openly. And the reason that I am going to be

00:03:30.080 playing this interview today is because he will be speaking at an event later today in Toronto.

00:03:37.700 It's an event called Cyrus the Great. So it's in honor of the birthday of the founder of the

00:03:45.220 Persian Empire, Cyrus the Great. So we have a big celebration or there is a big celebration

00:03:50.500 organized. And the Shah in exile of Iran will be speaking at that event. So let's begin

00:03:58.980 with this interview from PragerU. And he's going to break it down for you. And I'm also going to

00:04:06.200 pause here and there to see if anyone in the chat has any questions. Of course, like I think I

00:04:11.940 mentioned, I respond to super chats and I display your comments or questions on the live stream as

00:04:18.980 so let's begin and thank you for joining everyone say what do they think what are they capable of 0.61

00:04:23.740 why revolution let's go to the war iranians what do they say what do they think what are they

00:04:28.300 capable of why revolution who do you believe was behind it the cia the russians the marxists i've

00:04:35.220 heard all kinds of theories i really believe that if the revolution had not happened iran should be

00:04:40.560 by now south korea of the middle east instead of becoming the north korea the new iran what does

00:04:46.260 that look like? There is a positive note to it. America might say, well, we want to leave them

00:04:50.740 alone. They won't leave you alone. It has to be declawed. If not now, when? How many more

00:04:55.560 generations have to be sacrificed? Your Highness Crown Prince of Iran, welcome to PragerU. It is 0.66

00:05:02.480 a great honor to have you here. I'm very glad to be here today and talk to you and be on your

00:05:08.880 program. Thank you for inviting me. Well, this is going to be a fascinating conversation and I have

00:05:13.680 many questions for you, but I actually want to start by doing something that I typically don't

00:05:18.220 do at the beginning of an interview, and that is to thank you. I will surely thank you at the end,

00:05:24.840 but I feel like you deserve a thank you from many of my Iranian friends who I have here living in

00:05:32.320 the United States who expressed to me that you have given them so much hope. Not only have you

00:05:40.040 given them hope that things will get better in in iran in your country but you've also been the

00:05:46.540 embodiment of what iranians are are really and for many americans living in the united i just

00:05:54.260 want to pause there so she's absolutely right um king has given many of us hope um that we can 0.96

00:06:01.560 overthrow the terrorist islamic republic and that we will overthrow the islamic republic again it is 0.96

00:06:08.120 one of the most brutal totalitarian dictatorships in the world. But he's given us hope because he 1.00

00:06:15.260 has been fighting this fight for 46 years, right? Ever since the Islamic Republic happened, he has 0.99

00:06:20.440 dedicated his life to freeing Iran. And the reason he gives us so much hope is because he speaks with

00:06:29.380 such um eloquence and such elegance and um his message has always been the same it's been a

00:06:38.340 message of hope um and he doesn't beat around the bush he answers all of the difficult questions as

00:06:44.920 well and he gives us hope because he is part of a dynasty the pahlavi dynasty that modernized

00:06:54.060 Iran, right? So we Iranians have a lot of respect for the Pahlavi dynasty, starting with his great

00:07:01.100 grandfather, Rizal Shah the Great, followed by his father, Shahanshah Aryamir, Muhammad Rizal Shah

00:07:08.400 Pahlavi, and now to Rizal Shah II himself. And when you look at the history of the Pahlavi dynasty,

00:07:15.960 they modernized Iran. They brought Iran forward. Women in Iran had the right to vote before women

00:07:24.720 in Switzerland. He's going to get more into this, but I just wanted to explain why he's given us

00:07:30.440 hope. The other thing he has done is he has worked very hard to make the world realize that there is

00:07:37.880 a difference between Iranians, you know, people like me, versus the Islamic Republic, which are 0.98

00:07:44.460 basically a group of savage jihadi terrorists who murder Iranians in the name of Allah and Islam, 0.97

00:07:51.220 they murder Americans in the name of Allah and Islam, they murder people in the Middle East, 0.99

00:07:54.500 they basically murder everyone in the name of Allah and Islam, right? And they wage this 1.00

00:07:58.800 never-ending jihad against Israel, against the United States, and their goal is to essentially 0.96

00:08:04.860 create this Islamic caliphate. And people think that this is coming from Iran. No,

00:08:10.320 This is coming from the Islamic Republic, and my birth country of Iran was unfortunately one of the first victims of this Islamic colonization and oppression by the Islamic Republic.

00:08:25.120 So we're going to dive deeper into that, but I just wanted to lay it out there for you, you know, the reason that he's giving us Iranians hope.

00:08:31.880 In the United States, especially of my generation and younger, our experience with Iran has been terrorism and killing and death and terrible human rights abuses and, you know, the treatment of women and what we've heard has happened to young women like Masha Amini.

00:08:51.360 And so when we hear about that regime in Iran and we associate all of that evil, it's been a blessing to us to know people like you and like the Iranians who do live here in the United States, who, in my opinion, are some of the most reasonable people I know.

00:09:11.340 They're incredibly kind. They're incredibly warm. Best food ever. Almost all of them are

00:09:17.540 successful entrepreneur, totally rational people. And I just have such a huge love for the Iranian

00:09:26.220 people that reconciling the huge difference between the Iranians that I know and people like

00:09:32.420 you versus the Iranians that I hear about in the Middle East, it's I have a great sense of gratitude

00:09:42.260 to people like you who've really held up what Iranians are about. And so I just want to start 0.99

00:09:49.700 by just saying thank you. Thank you for everything you've already done. Well, I'm just doing my job

00:09:55.700 and it's my duty to serve the best interests of my compatriots by at least being their voice to

00:10:01.180 begin with, and hopefully then some.

00:10:03.320 And you have been.

00:10:04.200 For people who know very little about Iran, the more you study Persia and the region, the

00:10:12.200 region, the more actually fascinating it becomes, because that region has given birth to so many

00:10:18.300 different societies, I guess, in some ways.

00:10:22.600 Can you describe to us what has happened over, let's say, the last 100 years or so, since

00:10:29.460 your grandfather became the ruler and then your father and what happened with you and why did you

00:10:36.100 end up in exile? Actually, when you look at the legacy, the way people now look upon what my

00:10:45.140 grandfather and my father did as the architect of modern Iran, in fact, they call my family the

00:10:51.040 the Iran building family, demonstrates that the view was how to we can bring Iran from the, you

00:10:57.460 know uh sort of underdeveloped country where most people were uneducated yeah so he's basically he's

00:11:05.120 basically saying very politically correctly that his grandfather and then his father uh brought

00:11:10.400 iran forward out of the dark ages because the previous dynasty the qajar dynasty they were

00:11:15.420 terrible um they were basically under the control of the ottomans um and you know various other 0.77

00:11:20.720 foreign powers and they did nothing for iran they were incredibly corrupt um and under the under the 0.72

00:11:27.140 Qajar dynasty, Iran had turned into a very, um, poor nation. People were starving. There was a

00:11:33.060 lot of poverty, you know, very little education, a lot of tribalism. And it was the Pahlavi dynasty 0.99

00:11:38.040 with, uh, with, um, his grandfather, Rizzo Shah the Great. Um, let me see, I'll find a photo of

00:11:43.880 Rizzo Shah. Um, um, I'll find a photo of him here. Let me just download this. And then, um,

00:11:54.080 that way i can refer to it when i need to just go to documents shows

00:12:03.140 all right so let me pull up this picture of him so you can see exactly who i am referring to

00:12:14.580 so this is it is a show the great okay um so this is the grandfather of the current shah of iran

00:12:23.780 So prior to him becoming the Shah, I believe it was 19. Don't quote me on this. It was either 21 or 23, 1921 or 1923. He became the Shah of Iran through through a vote, by the way. Right. So it's not like a lot of people, you know, this is where the whole Islamist communist lies come in. Right. They claim that he basically like took over. No, he didn't. It was through a constitutional process.

00:12:50.020 So the democratically elected parliament at the time called Majlis, yes, if you didn't know, Iran has been a constitutional monarchy since 1906. So the democratically elected parliament at the time actually voted to get rid of the Qajar king at the time and voted to have him become the new Shah of Iran.

00:13:11.140 So the Pahlavi dynasty were legitimately there.

00:13:14.920 And to me, they're still the legitimate rulers of Iran.

00:13:19.760 So this is the grandfather of the current Shah of Iran.

00:13:24.380 So let's get to a country that in the 70s was thriving, had a strong economy.

00:13:31.340 Iranians were educating themselves, coming back to Iran to bring in whatever was necessary

00:13:37.060 in terms of development and infrastructure.

00:13:38.840 So I think it's really, in the last 100 years, because my grandfather stepped into the scene

00:13:43.640 towards the second quarter of the 20th century, 1926 more or less, and he served first as

00:13:50.520 the commander of the army, he was prime minister, and then he was prompted into the scene as

00:13:56.520 a result of the previous dynasty, sort of like shying away from carrying their responsibilities,

00:14:03.080 and he was called upon to step in and sort of literally take over power.

00:14:07.960 And in fact, my grandfather wanted to first establish a republic in Iran based on the model

00:14:14.360 of Ataturk that he admired a lot next door in Turkey.

00:14:18.200 And interestingly enough, the clerics at the time and many of the people in the Iranian

00:14:24.200 sort of elite were saying, it won't work here, you should crown yourself as the next king

00:14:31.000 and form the new dynasty, which is what he did.

00:14:33.080 So that's how it all started.

00:14:35.960 And so for about 50 years, the Pahlavi dynasty was in place until we reached the point where

00:14:41.000 the revolution happened.

00:14:42.000 And I'm sure we'll have a chance to talk about that.

00:14:44.520 So I think Iran really began to flourish when we started, especially post-Second World War,

00:14:54.060 where we were able to start producing our oil and selling it at a higher price.

00:14:57.820 We created enough revenue so you can start really spending it on copious projects of

00:15:04.200 modernization, development, factories, dams, roads, schools, everything that was needed.

00:15:10.540 And that's how we started getting some traction.

00:15:12.700 And Iranians, at the time of my grandfather, Iran's income per capita was around $400.

00:15:19.980 Towards the end, it was over $2,800, and it was sort of like really increasing.

00:15:25.580 And so I think people saw that Iran is progressively on track for development, for prosperity, for

00:15:33.100 life improving at every level but i think the most important element that especially now in

00:15:39.820 contrast to where iran was and what is under this regime is how much was done especially for the

00:15:45.420 women in iran and that would really happen at the time of my father of course my grandfather

00:15:51.660 was the first one to say guys so pay attention to this part because one of the um main reasons

00:16:00.300 for the Islamic revolution was the fact that the Pahlavi dynasty were not only modernizing Iran,

00:16:10.120 but they were promoting women's rights and women's equality, right? And so that upset the

00:16:17.820 Islamists, that upset the hardcore religious clerics who believed and still believe that women

00:16:25.780 our second class citizens and should be treated as such so this was one of the tensions right

00:16:32.740 that that was in place there with the palabi dynasty modernizing iran and of course everyone

00:16:39.340 welcoming that but then you had the islamists starting to to push back against that

00:16:44.660 let me go back a little bit here around 400 uh towards the end it was over 2 800 0.87

00:16:51.060 And it was sort of like really increasing.

00:16:55.000 And so I think people saw that Iran is progressively on track for development, for prosperity, for

00:17:02.980 people's lives improving at every level.

00:17:05.620 But I think the most important element that especially now in contrast to where Iran was

00:17:11.160 and what is under this regime is how much was done, especially for the women in Iran.

00:17:17.840 And that would really happen at the time of my father.

00:17:20.820 Of course, my grandfather was the first one to say that people should be free to wear

00:17:26.520 the veil or not, the hijab issue. 0.97

00:17:29.000 And of course, he led by example by having his own daughters go out in public without

00:17:33.740 wearing any veil.

00:17:37.780 And that was one way to liberate women from having to be castigated into that.

00:17:43.160 And the symbolism of it is so obvious because even when Mahsa happened a year ago, you see

00:17:47.240 how much that is a symbol of where we were.

00:17:52.160 And women were integrated in all form or shape into not just members of society, but actual 1.00

00:17:58.680 participants in governance.

00:18:01.240 Iranian women achieved suffrage four years before the women in Switzerland did.

00:18:06.140 There were family laws to protect families and women's rights.

00:18:10.040 They were given opportunities to become ministers, judges, even serving the armed forces.

00:18:15.660 was a completely different situation as opposed to what this regime has done in turn so here's

00:18:22.780 let me share with you a photo of women uh politicians in iran prior to the islamic

00:18:31.180 revolution of 19 um 1979 let me just pull this up here for you guys so you can see

00:18:38.860 uh exactly what it is that he is um talking about so let me add this okay i gotta remove that and

00:18:50.040 there you go so that's there we go that's um those are iranian um mps right before 1979 so

00:18:59.940 this is what that's what iranian women looked like that's what they dress like right like i mean you

00:19:05.320 can't tell if that's Iran or, um, you know, any other normal Western country. So anyone who says

00:19:12.460 Iran was like, you know, Islamic and has always been Islamic, um, they have no idea what they're

00:19:17.900 talking about. They don't know their history or perhaps they do know their history and they're 1.00

00:19:22.660 just part of the global jihad, um, uh, caliphate. Right. And so this is why, this is why all of 0.51

00:19:29.660 these people are constantly um threatening uh and are constantly like attacking iranians who

00:19:37.720 who speak out against the islamic republic and they're also constantly attacking 0.58

00:19:43.200 they're also attacking this gentleman here the the shah of iran in exile because he is the only

00:19:52.040 person who can and will free iran so all of these communists and islamists they view him as a

00:19:59.460 threat. But the important thing here is that, you know, listen to Iranians, listen to what Iranians

00:20:04.860 say, and what Iranians want. And in a previous live stream, I shared with you a video that

00:20:10.940 recently came out of Iran, where people in Iran are literally yelling, Javid Shah, which means

00:20:16.720 long live the king, which is basically Iranian for, you know, we want our king to return. And

00:20:22.660 they're referring to this gentleman here. So, you know, ignore all of the nonsense, ignore all the

00:20:28.460 propaganda out there. I'm giving you the real facts. And this is something that you're never

00:20:33.460 going to hear about in the mainstream media. You're never going to hear about this in the news

00:20:37.960 because this counters the Islamist narrative that is being pushed so hard by certain groups and

00:20:45.620 certain people with an agenda, right? So let's continue. So I think that's a little bit of

00:20:51.060 modern history of where Iran started to go. And I really believe that if the revolution had not

00:20:57.240 happened, Iran should be by now, if not the second Japan of the Middle East, but at least 0.70

00:21:02.780 the South Korea of the Middle East, instead of becoming the North Korea. 0.64

00:21:06.860 So it's not the people that have changed or our resources being depleted.

00:21:12.080 It's just the nature of the regime.

00:21:13.940 And in fact, I'd like to take the opportunity, since you talk about Iran and Iranians, we 0.78

00:21:18.440 feel sometimes very frustrated where whenever something happens, media or political leaders,

00:21:26.900 say Iran did this, Iran did that. I will urge you to help us correct that by saying this is not

00:21:33.700 Iran and Iranians. This is the regime in Iran. So it's the Islamic regime, not the Iranian people. 0.89

00:21:38.460 That's one way to distinguish. This is so true. This is why I always, I always, always make a 1.00

00:21:43.620 difference between the Islamic Republic and Iran, right? Because we're Iranians, we are occupied 1.00

00:21:50.360 by the Islamic Republic. And it's the Islamic Republic that is responsible for all of the 1.00

00:21:56.860 terrorism you're seeing um in the middle east you know it's responsible for all of the violence 0.95

00:22:02.140 you're seeing against israel and of course it's responsible for all of the terrorism and anti 0.98

00:22:06.940 semitism you're seeing in western countries right that's all being funded by the islamic republic 0.95

00:22:12.620 because they are pushing their islamic caliphate um and they're indoctrinating people in the west 0.91

00:22:19.660 with this anti-semitic ideology so you know this is why we always urge people and you know again

00:22:26.460 you heard it from uh his royal highness king we urge people in media to make that distinction

00:22:33.340 between iran and the islamic republic because the problem isn't iran the problem is the islamic

00:22:41.660 republic the problem is that jihadi islamo-fascist ideology that not only took over iran in 1979

00:22:51.100 but is now you know making its way around the world and unless and until you can actually

00:22:57.980 identify the source of the problem you won't be able to treat it and i think there is uh there

00:23:04.700 is a deliberate intent to conflate iran with the islamic republic because they don't want people

00:23:11.580 to know that the problem is not iran the problem is the islamic republic right the problem is their

00:23:18.380 jihadi islamic ideology let me go back here because that's such a critical point and i want

00:23:25.740 i want him to say that again resources being depleted it's just the nature of the regime

00:23:31.020 and in fact i like to take the opportunity since you talk about iran and iranians

00:23:35.340 we feel sometimes very frustrated where whenever something happens uh media or political leaders

00:23:44.300 say Iran did this, Iran did that, I will urge you to help us correct that by saying,

00:23:50.380 this is not Iran and Iranians, this is the regime in Iran. So it's Islamic regime, 0.73

00:23:54.460 not Iranian people. That's one way to distinguish the aspiration of Iranians from the doing of the 1.00

00:24:01.420 regime. That perception by itself is important. At the beginning, especially when the hostages 0.92

00:24:08.540 were taken in the American embassy in Tehran, and of course Khomeini had just hit the scene,

00:24:12.700 I remember during that time leading to the revolution, I was still in Reese Air Force

00:24:17.820 Base in Lubbock, Texas, and I can already see that sense of hostility against Iranians who

00:24:25.740 had no fault whatsoever just to be Iranian. My own wife, who was studying in school in the Bay

00:24:31.500 Area, was beaten up by some of her classmates just because she was an Iranian. But I think

00:24:36.700 we have come a long way. I think many Iranians, especially those living in the United States,

00:24:41.500 and for americans who have interacted example yourself with iranians by now should know the

00:24:47.500 difference between what actual iranians believe or think as opposed to what the regime is projecting

00:24:53.260 as being uh you know something that is totally alien to us in terms he makes a really good point

00:24:59.340 i mean most people most people don't even know that they're like interacting with an iranian

00:25:04.460 unless like we tell them because, you know, we're just culturally, our culture and our values are

00:25:12.540 very similar to Western culture and values. And so Iranian immigrants, we assimilate quite well,

00:25:19.580 right? I mean, you also have to think about this. 10% of the Iranian population live outside of

00:25:27.420 Iran. That's actually a significant amount, right? Like, so there's about 9 million Iranians who live

00:25:32.960 around the world um many have escaped the islamic republic as refugees and yet you never hear about

00:25:40.160 you know the iranian refugee problem you never hear about mass migration of iranians um it's

00:25:47.100 because to this day there still hasn't been like that sort of mass migration the same way that you

00:25:52.420 see from like other places you also never see a lot of problems um with iranian immigrants right

00:25:58.780 because the vast majority of us and i'm not saying all there's you know always bad apples everywhere

00:26:02.600 But the vast majority of Iranian immigrants, when they go to a country, they go there to assimilate, they go there to contribute, they go there to be part of society. And many Iranians are, you know, highly productive members of society, whether they're lawyers or engineers, or, you know, in my case, I was a politician for seven years.

00:26:22.760 um you know there's people who own own companies right like i think the ceo or one of the creators

00:26:28.840 of uber was iranian so all these things right um and people don't really know this and people

00:26:34.620 don't really think about it and that's because as iranians we integrate into the societies that

00:26:39.820 we are in because we appreciate that western society we value the western way of living

00:26:47.940 because that's what Iran was going towards before the Islamic Republic came and turned our country 0.95

00:26:54.880 into a 7th century Islamic hellhole governed by Sharia law.

00:26:59.820 The values, in terms of beliefs, in terms of principles. 1.00

00:27:03.620 Let me go back a little bit here.

00:27:05.040 Had no fault whatsoever just to be Iranian.

00:27:07.300 My own wife, who was studying in school in the Bay Area, was beaten up by some of her classmates

00:27:13.040 just because she was an Iranian.

00:27:15.620 But I think we have come a long way.

00:27:17.000 I think many Iranians, especially those living in the United States, and for Americans who have interacted, example yourself, with Iranians, by now should know the difference between what actual Iranians believe or think as opposed to what the regime is projecting as being, you know, something that is totally alien to us in terms of values, in terms of beliefs, in terms of principles. 0.79

00:27:40.380 And that's where all the problem started and continues to exist.

00:27:43.420 You describe Iran as this prosperous economic society, right? And the revolution happens. If people were happy in Iran, presumably they were doing well financially and things were growing. Why revolution? Who do you believe was behind it?

00:28:03.260 was it really from within? Or was it Carter? Was it the UK? Was it the fight over oil?

00:28:11.240 Or was it the Russians, the Marxists? I mean, I've heard all kinds of theories on who took

00:28:17.600 Iran down and why. And I'm curious, what do you believe is the truth?

00:28:22.800 Well, there were two main...

00:28:25.260 Guys, this is very important. I'm probably going to do another episode where I speak

00:28:31.420 only about um the reason behind the islamic revolution and i'm going to share various

00:28:39.460 opinions and thoughts but this right here is probably the most concise um the most concise

00:28:46.980 answer and it also really brings all the various elements together and pay attention because what

00:28:55.960 he's about to to talk about is similar to what is currently happening in western societies where

00:29:04.460 you see the communists and the islamists right so you have the pro-hamas pro-pali people who have 0.83

00:29:11.520 aligned with the antifa progressive you know whatever um that unholy alliance is very dangerous 1.00

00:29:19.240 to western societies um and he's going to talk about that because we've already seen this play

00:29:26.780 out um in iran in 1979 major uh groups that were opposed to the oh i just wanted to give a shout

00:29:37.320 out to ahmed gulshan thank you for becoming a member i appreciate that and i appreciate

00:29:42.660 your support. Welcome.

00:29:47.280 The way Iran was 1.00

00:29:48.740 the direction it had taken. 1.00

00:29:51.760 Everything that I

00:29:52.800 explained regarding women's

00:29:54.980 rights and things that were happening,

00:29:57.160 the clergy didn't

00:29:58.760 look at that very favorably.

00:30:00.720 Khomeini, in fact, started everything when 0.99

00:30:02.660 my father instigated 0.98

00:30:04.140 the white revolution at the time that brought 0.71

00:30:06.680 in all these elements. He was the first 1.00

00:30:08.680 one to start speaking against it and

00:30:10.620 build that sort of rejection

00:30:12.420 by the Islamists or the fundamentalists there.

00:30:15.080 On the other hand, you have the Marxist forces

00:30:16.880 who didn't like this rapprochement with the West in general

00:30:20.900 and their sort of anti-imperialist, anti-Western rhetoric

00:30:26.060 sort of partnered with the Islamists.

00:30:29.980 Does that ring a bell with you guys?

00:30:33.120 When he's talking about the anti-Western, anti-imperialist rhetoric,

00:30:37.720 That's exactly what the rhetoric is at, like, the pro-Hamas jihadi Palestine rallies or whatever, right, where they talk about dismantling the settler colonial state and all of that as well.

00:30:55.340 So, yeah. Oh, gosh. Unusual AI. You always have the funniest comments. Thank you for the Zio propaganda.

00:31:02.740 And I mean, I am a Zionist. I do believe in the right of the state of Israel to exist. I'm Yisrael 0.63

00:31:10.420 Chai. So Zionist, guys, Zionist is not a bad word. I don't know why. I mean, these like jihadis, 1.00

00:31:17.760 they throw the word Zionist around as if it's some insult. Guys, Zionist basically just means

00:31:22.960 that you believe in the right for the state of Israel to exist. And of course, as Iranians, 0.99

00:31:32.020 we do because our civilizations go back thousands of years and, you know, well before Islam was

00:31:38.340 was invented. So yeah, you're welcome for the Zionist propaganda, I guess. Okay, so let's go 0.93

00:31:45.900 back and and listen to this. But this is so this is what I this is what I wanted to say. So this,

00:31:50.480 this, this rhetoric and this narrative that you are hearing, right in these pro Hamas,

00:31:59.020 pro-ballastine rallies or whatever they call them, where they talk about dismantling the

00:32:04.280 settler colonial state. They talk about anti-imperialism, you know, and even though

00:32:08.980 they're in the United States, they burn the American flag. Even though they're in Canada,

00:32:12.960 they burn the Canadian flag. This anti-imperialism rhetoric is perfectly aligned with the Islamist 0.98

00:32:20.500 rhetoric, right? So they both have the same goal. They both want to undermine and destabilize 0.97

00:32:27.860 Western society. They both want to take over for various reasons. And so this anti-imperialist

00:32:34.280 rhetoric that he is speaking about, right, that was happening in 1979, is happening again today

00:32:41.100 in Western countries. Chris, what do you believe is the truth? Well, there were two major groups

00:32:48.900 that were opposed to the way Iran was, the direction it had taken. Everything that I

00:32:55.560 explained regarding women's right and things that were happening, the clergy didn't look

00:33:01.960 at that very favorably.

00:33:03.500 And Khomeini, in fact, started everything when my father instigated the white revolution 0.95

00:33:08.560 at the time that brought in all these elements. 0.95

00:33:10.960 He was the first one to start speaking against it and build that sort of rejection by the

00:33:15.620 Islamist or the fundamentalist there.

00:33:18.000 On the other hand, you had the Marxist forces who didn't like this rapprochement with the

00:33:22.720 West in general, and their sort of anti-imperialist, anti-Western rhetoric sort of partnered with

00:33:30.760 the Islamists. 0.87

00:33:32.800 And that was the root cause that brought about that moment where there were forces at play

00:33:38.960 that took it to that level of leading to this revolution.

00:33:43.100 And interestingly enough, I think that now the children of that generation who in 1957,

00:33:50.960 calendar, 57, which is 1979, for part of it, turn back to their parents and say, what the

00:33:57.400 hell were you thinking?

00:33:58.920 What was lacking?

00:34:00.440 The maximum we could argue might be that maybe in terms of political liberalization, we

00:34:04.820 were not quite there yet, but we were going in that direction.

00:34:08.440 And they were saying, well, a lot of reforms could have happened, and we could have avoided

00:34:14.700 having a revolution.

00:34:17.300 But instead, we opted to bring in some cleric that we believed would be just a very benign,

00:34:24.340 sort of symbolic leader, retiring in the city of Guam and allowing for all these promised

00:34:30.020 liberties. And instead, we ended up with what we have. And by the time we realized what it was,

00:34:34.340 was too late. And contrary to that, there's been decades of insisting on bringing reform

00:34:41.300 to a regime that is irreformable so it's the sort of tragedy in all this is that so there's one thing

00:34:49.060 he said very important he said that there's been this decades-long policy of trying to reform the 0.96

00:34:55.540 islamic republic but it's irreformable and that's absolutely absolutely correct um we we call this 0.94

00:35:02.820 the reformist narrative so what is the reformist narrative the reformist narrative is basically 0.96

00:35:08.820 people who work for the islamic regime they lobby for the islamic regime in the united states

00:35:14.020 there's one particular lobby group it's called the um national iranian american council niac

00:35:20.820 they're 100 pro-islamic republic um they're based out of washington they constantly push to

00:35:28.260 legitimize the islamic republic and how do they do it they say oh no no like we can we can change

00:35:34.180 them we can change them why do they do this because they keep on wanting to kick the can down 0.75

00:35:39.540 the road for every u.s administration right because their only goal is to keep the islamic republic

00:35:47.940 in power because that's where they get their paycheck from so um what we have been trying 0.97

00:35:53.380 to tell you and what i'm telling you today is that the islamic republic is not reformable 0.95

00:35:59.140 you cannot reform um terrorists you cannot reform um an organization let's call it 0.95

00:36:08.020 whose very core foundational pillar is jihad right you cannot um reform an organization

00:36:18.580 that has death to america as one of its official policies right like these people literally go out

00:36:25.300 there um in the in their own parliament and they're chanting death to america right so you

00:36:34.000 cannot um you cannot reason with these people you cannot reform them you cannot change them

00:36:40.220 um the only thing that can be done is to delegitimize them right and what we iranians

00:36:46.520 are saying is we're not saying go to war we don't want war what we're saying is stop legitimizing

00:36:51.660 the islamic republic stop throwing them financial and economic lifelines let the iranian people 0.82

00:36:58.380 overthrow them let the iranian people overthrow the islamic republic and take their country back 0.96

00:37:06.460 the opportunity cost to iran and iranians has been huge in terms of this past four and a half 0.97

00:37:13.660 decades since the revolution however there is a positive note to it as crazy as it may sound

00:37:20.180 But it is really in the sense of some of the cornerstones of liberty and justice and the

00:37:26.660 rule of law in any democracy, and that is the separation of church from state, in other

00:37:31.840 words, a secular system.

00:37:33.800 I want to emphasize this point as strongly as I can, because I think from the point of

00:37:40.600 view of Americans, when they look at the American Constitution, when they look at the fact

00:37:44.160 that Thomas Jefferson was inspired by Cyrus the Great to build in those values of human

00:37:49.120 rights and liberty into the American Bill of Rights and Constitution.

00:37:53.040 There's something that has to do with the history of our country, and we are proud as

00:37:57.380 descendant of Cyrus to be represented in that.

00:38:00.960 But what can we do for ourselves?

00:38:03.080 And how can we have the same system in our country?

00:38:06.600 Because a lot of people say, well, you know, Iran was a Muslim country. 1.00

00:38:10.320 How do we deal with these religious elements? 1.00

00:38:12.600 Is this really what they are? 0.83

00:38:14.600 Not.

00:38:15.600 fact iran was perhaps one of the most secular countries in the region before yeah again so 0.98

00:38:27.360 here these are these are women politicians in iran prior to 1979 right like do they do they look

00:38:39.680 you know islamic to you right i mean yeah iran was a muslim majority country at the time the

00:38:47.120 vast majority of people were practicing muslims but they were not islamic right like iran iran

00:38:54.880 was a um a secular country it was a secular modernizing country iran didn't fit iran didn't

00:39:02.960 become an islamic country until 1979 when the islamic republic took our country hostage but

00:39:09.880 prior to that i mean again look women politicians they look like they could be politicians in canada 0.81

00:39:16.460 right i mean um this this is like this is the outfit this is like this is what i would wear

00:39:21.460 when i would go to the ontario legislature to to speak right so iran was incredibly secular 0.66

00:39:28.060 this is what the islamists don't want you to know about right they want you they want people in the 0.60

00:39:34.080 west they want non-iranians to think that we're all just a bunch of like savage jihadis who yell 0.75

00:39:40.520 aloha akbar and death to america all day every day right and that's that's completely not the

00:39:46.360 case it's the farthest thing um from from the truth i have another start comment guys so i'm

00:39:53.680 going to share this and I'm going to read it for you guys. So Pidram says, Iranians trust only in 0.83

00:40:01.560 Pahlavism, 100%. The alliance of red and black is dead. Leftists, feminists, communists, and 1.00

00:40:09.500 globalists have all played their games for 46 years, but none of them have been successful.

00:40:15.040 i completely agree with you um uh pedram i think the the last time that the islamists and you know

00:40:24.940 the the progressives and all those people um were really able to fool iranians i think was really

00:40:31.100 with the sort of the green movement you know joan bishop sabs or whatever back in like 2012 um and

00:40:36.800 that's where the whole reformist narrative came but i think ever since then um it's been less and

00:40:42.580 less effective and now it's come to the point where all of those like progressive lefty communists

00:40:50.780 whatever um they basically have zero importance and zero influence in iran amongst iranians right

00:40:58.980 um they have pretty much become professional grifters and all they do is they just want to

00:41:05.140 uh keep keep this going like if anything i actually think that these you know lefties

00:41:12.100 and communists and human rights activists um want iran to remain occupied because for them it's a

00:41:18.580 professional grift that's how they make their money you know and if when iran is free they're

00:41:25.220 going to lose all of their funding um so they're i think they're definitely part and parcel of that

00:41:31.060 um and you're right iranians are done with it the only person we trust the only person that we want

00:41:37.460 to revolution back in iran is is king and this is why um all of these various factors are feeling

00:41:47.140 incredibly threatened and it's also why they're attacking him because he has done something that

00:41:54.020 no other iranian opposition leader has been able to do he has united iranians across iran he has

00:42:03.380 united iranians outside of iran he has united iranians of different backgrounds different

00:42:09.060 faiths different religions different cultural you know whatever minorities everything right

00:42:15.620 um he's even united those iranians who uh you know because there are some iranians who want

00:42:22.980 a constitutional monarchy there's some who want a republic i'm personally a big fan of

00:42:28.260 of constitutional monarchy. That's what I want to go back to because I believe in that particular

00:42:35.500 democratic system. And again, that's what Iran was prior to 1979. But he has even managed to

00:42:42.120 unite the Republicans and the constitutional monarchists because right now our fight is 0.97

00:42:47.900 against the Islamic Republic. And that is why you're seeing a lot of people, especially in the 0.70

00:42:53.160 chat, they're incredibly triggered, right? Because they know that the end is near. They know that

00:42:58.840 the Islamic Republic will be overthrown. They know that the only person who is able to do it 1.00

00:43:04.040 is King Reza Pahlavi. And that is why they are constantly attacking him, right? Because if he

00:43:09.760 was irrelevant, let me put it this way. If he was irrelevant, people wouldn't be attacking him.

00:43:15.140 If he was irrelevant, people wouldn't care, right? But everyone is here and they're trying to attack.

00:43:21.020 And so for those of you who are watching live right now and you're checking the live chat, this is the reason why. And the reason I'm allowing them to continue their spam comments is to give you a better sense and understanding of how these people have tried to silence Iranians and gaslight us for the last 47 years, but it's just not working anymore. 0.98

00:43:44.440 the movement is too big our support is growing exponentially every day and we're just going to 0.95

00:43:50.840 keep on going the end of the islamic republic is is near and this is the man who's going to free it 0.99

00:43:58.600 who's going to free iran from the islamic republic but we had to experience directly 1.00

00:44:04.120 the consequences back a little bit here represented in that but what can we do for ourselves 0.96

00:44:10.440 and how can we have the same system in our country because a lot of people say well you

00:44:15.560 know iran was a muslim country how do we deal with these religious elements is this really

00:44:20.600 what they are not and in fact iran was perhaps one of the most secular countries in the region 1.00

00:44:28.840 before the revolution but we had to experience directly the consequences of a religious

00:44:35.480 dictatorship it's a little bit like the inquisition in europe that led to enlightenment and now you're 0.77

00:44:41.480 talking about an islamic inquisition in iran and what could happen post that in terms of returning

00:44:46.760 to our roots and our a country where different religions lived together side by side for

00:44:52.120 centuries christians or astrians jews baha'is muslims and we never had issues until this regime

00:44:58.760 emerged and that's very important lesson that iranists had to learn the hard way but puts us 0.51

00:45:04.920 in the best possible position to navigate this challenge and land on solid grounds in the future

00:45:13.080 once this regime is finally brought down. So do you think that the people who voted

00:45:18.760 for the revolution, were they duped? Is that what happened? Were they basically tricked?

00:45:24.520 Was it that the Marxists and the Islamists came together and created this new version of 0.92

00:45:31.080 politicized Islam that controlled the media and lied to people and people didn't realize really 0.90

00:45:37.720 what they're stepping into because it's almost like an oxymoron to combine Marxism with religious

00:45:43.560 Islam because Marxism is really not about religion. And so the marriage of those two 0.91

00:45:49.000 seemed quite bizarre except for the purpose of political control and corruption. And so

00:45:55.880 were the iranians basically tricked uh was it planned that this would happen or is it just a

00:46:03.560 terrible accident and and just in a very very unfortunate situation so this is really really

00:46:12.920 important he's going to dive in a little bit into the reason for the islamic revolution so so pay

00:46:22.200 attention to this part because this is going to answer a lot of your questions about what exactly

00:46:28.040 happened in 1979 because there is a lot of disinformation out there right now well you can

00:46:36.060 imagine that in these four decades ever since i was plunged into the scene of iranian politics

00:46:42.960 and opposition politics and what have you i had discussions with many iranians including many who

00:46:48.900 were the most aggressive opponents of my father's regime, belonging to the same

00:46:54.740 category of people you just described.

00:46:57.780 And in our conversation, they often said that, you know, we now realize what we

00:47:03.980 didn't know then, and most of them admit that we made a mistake.

00:47:12.020 But the truth is that it was such a frenzy, it was such a euphoria that you

00:47:17.980 could not have a rational discussion we had university professors swearing that they saw

00:47:25.580 with their own eyes khomeini's face in the moon that's yeah so the level of insanity and like

00:47:38.140 i don't know it was it almost became cult-like right like he's not joking there were there were

00:47:44.580 people who basically said that Khomeini, right? Like the, the evil, um, Ayatollah who, who

00:47:51.860 replaced the Shah, they said that he is destined to, um, take over and be the leader because they

00:47:59.200 saw his face in the moon. Right. And there was actually like, um, there was like articles about 0.85

00:48:07.580 this right here let me let me show this to you so here's like um here's a screenshot

00:48:17.340 wait i got to gotta put it up on the screen here um okay i gotta remove this

00:48:26.940 okay so you see this like this says uh ruhola khomeini on the moon so there was literally an

00:48:33.820 article from january 14 right it's a farsi article and it says madame tehran dishab dideh

00:48:45.140 okay so basically it says last night the people in tehran you know saw his his face in the moon

00:48:55.660 Right. Like this is this is the cult like insanity of the Islamists where they literally, you know, you had people in mass because they for whatever reason, there was like this weird religious fervor saying that like they saw the Ayatollah's face in the moon. 0.60

00:49:14.120 And now, you know, we're all like laughing at these idiots. But I mean, this is the danger of falling into that Islamic jihadi cult mentality. Right. And this right here is a perfect example of that. Right. So so when he says people were claiming that they saw the face of the Ayatollah in the moon, he's not joking. 1.00

00:49:38.180 there was literally like religious fervor about this right people were just no it's not a meme 0.99

00:49:45.420 it's real i know like but but but this is how the islamists operate like they're so low iq 0.91

00:49:51.800 and there's so much nonsense that we as iranians have dealt with because of the islamic republic 0.81

00:49:58.600 that if we literally didn't have documents like this to prove it you wouldn't believe us you would 0.82

00:50:05.040 not believe the type of nonsense. I mean, these are people who actually come out and say that

00:50:12.400 Israel was successful in its attacks against the Islamic Republic because Israel uses genies. 0.52

00:50:21.040 Did you guys know that? Have you seen that? I'll find the video for you because I found the video. 0.92

00:50:28.760 I translated it myself. And I put it on my ex account a while ago. But I'm not joking.

00:50:37.920 There's literally this like crazy Ayatollah here, guys, like I'm not even joking. Like this is the 0.87

00:50:43.840 I mean, it's it's in Farsi, but like, you literally have Ayatollahs who say that Jewish

00:50:53.300 people have access to genies and the cosmic science since the time of David and Solomon,

00:50:59.640 and therefore that's how they were successful. Like this is the level of intellect when we're

00:51:04.480 dealing with the Islamic regime. These are the people who call themselves like the messengers 0.99

00:51:09.340 of Allah or whatever. Like they literally go on national TV and they claim that Israel uses

00:51:16.700 genies right and then back in 1979 they made up so many lies right you know the ayatollah's face

00:51:23.420 in the moon everything that comes out of their mouth is a lie even all the nonsense about you

00:51:27.980 know the shah being a dictator it's all a lie it's all a lie and it's so frustrating when i see people

00:51:34.780 who just parrot this you know these lies about the shah being a dictator or whatever 0.59

00:51:40.700 meanwhile those same like the same people who say the shah was a dictator believe that israel 0.96

00:51:47.220 uses genies do you do you understand how ridiculous these people are like just watch this video

00:51:53.480 so when he says ajene ajene means gins right so he's basically saying they have access to gins 0.88

00:52:10.700 right david and solomon david solomon so he's saying the the jewish people have access to

00:52:16.660 genies and cosmic science since the time of david and then he says historically the jews have always

00:52:29.740 used genies their documents and traditions prove that right like this this is literally what islamic 0.66

00:52:36.960 terrorists think they they legitimately go on like islamic regime state tv and they claim

00:52:44.400 that israel and jewish people use genies and then you actually and then it blows my mind that there

00:52:49.920 are people in the west who think that these um inbred islamic savages are any sort of you know 0.97

00:52:58.720 intellectual or legitimate people whatsoever right and they say they they use genies for 0.89

00:53:11.120 warfare and intelligence operations throughout history so apparently there's like a massad branch

00:53:17.840 um made up of genies or something right again this is the this the barbarity of these people

00:53:25.440 right like this is how barbaric they are so yeah of course like they made up so many lies and the 0.99

00:53:31.760 this this is all like the non-harmless stuff like these islamists murdered iranians back in the 70s 0.94

00:53:39.920 late 70s they murdered iranians and then they blamed the shah right so all of the oh the shah 0.77

00:53:46.400 murdered so many people it was actually all the islamists themselves who were murdering iranians 0.80

00:53:52.480 in order to build a case to claim the shah was a dictator and overthrow him right it's the same 0.93

00:53:58.000 tactic it's these people um are willing to sacrifice anyone for the cause of their jihad 0.91

00:54:05.200 right it's it's the mo of islamic terrorists it's what we see in gaza it's what we see in iran it's 0.94

00:54:13.840 what we saw in iran in 1979 it's what we see in other places as well so let's go back so when

00:54:19.920 talking about you know so when he says that people were claiming they saw the ayatollah's 1.00

00:54:26.160 face in the moon it's not an exaggeration it's the truth because these islamists are so insane 1.00

00:54:33.040 right that they will say and do anything in order to legitimize their power and they'll they lie 1.00

00:54:39.200 through their teeth constantly like all they do is lie lie lie so let's go back a little bit so

00:54:45.440 can hear that part again. Most of them admit that we made a mistake. But the truth is that

00:54:52.640 it was such a frenzy. It was such a euphoria that you could not have a rational discussion.

00:55:00.960 We had university professors swearing that they saw with their own eyes Khomeini's face in the

00:55:08.000 moon. We're not talking about an uneducated person be subject to some propaganda or brainwashing.

00:55:15.200 this is a university professor saying that so when the intelligentsia or intellectuals fall

00:55:20.800 into those trappings they didn't even know what Khomeini really stood for nobody had really read

00:55:28.000 his pamphlet which if you read today was i mean this is just some badness behind it so he's

00:55:36.400 He's referring to Khomeini's green book, right? And the green book is... Let me find something about that. Because there's one thing he said about an earthquake, and it will blow your mind.

00:56:04.220 But like this, this, you know, religious Islamic leader actually wrote about earthquakes.

00:56:12.060 So let me pull it up because I know like all the, you know, trolls in the chat are going to be like, yeah, she's lying. 0.77

00:56:17.940 She's lying. It's like, no, no, no.

00:56:20.800 Khomeini.

00:56:23.040 So.

00:56:23.560 So, um, I'm going to find, let's see if I can find this, uh, on the earthquake.

00:56:39.040 It's, so it's called like the Ayatollah's green book or something. And it is like

00:56:44.900 the most disgusting thing ever. Um, and here, I'm going to find it here.

00:56:57.660 Gosh. Okay. I can't, I can't find it now, but, um, right. I found someone who, who quoted it.

00:57:05.320 Okay. You guys, you guys can look this up yourselves, but basically, um,

00:57:14.900 So here we go. Let me share this with you. Share screen. All right. And then I'm going

00:57:29.820 to add this to the screen. Okay. All right. Here we go. So Ayatollah Khomeini. So when

00:57:41.020 King Nezah Pahlavi is speaking about that pamphlet, right? The pamphlet with all the bad

00:57:46.140 things in the book. This is an example of one of the things that this Islamic cleric wrote in his

00:57:54.400 book, right? And the book was like, you know, all these like Islamic teachings and whatever,

00:57:59.620 and people were like, oh, this guy's amazing, right? So one of the things that the Islamic

00:58:04.460 cleric wrote in his book was basically a scenario where an earthquake hits your home you fall through

00:58:13.500 the floor and your aunt is in the bedroom below you happen to have an erect and you happen to

00:58:20.300 land right inside of her do you have to stop and pull out in his book khomeini says no but you

00:58:27.660 can't marry your aunt's daughter however you could marry your aunt's child if you make her pregnant 0.72

00:58:33.420 So basically what he's saying, like he, he, he, like, this is how insane and sick this individual 0.69

00:58:39.580 is and all of his followers where he literally wrote this book. It's, it's called the Ayatollah's 0.75

00:58:45.620 green book, right? I'll find it for you.

00:58:54.600 But he literally wrote this book and in the book he has like a whole bunch of different scenarios.

00:59:01.560 goes and here you go like everyone who says i'm lying like this is literally the book right so he

00:59:08.420 literally wrote a jihadi book okay it's called the little green book i can't believe it's for sale

00:59:14.700 but that's insane um but he wrote like this little green book and in the green book he basically says

00:59:21.280 that if and the whole process which was he says in the book that if you fall on your aunt during

00:59:26.680 an earthquake like so if you're on one floor and your aunt is on a different floor and all of a

00:59:32.200 sudden there's an earthquake and the ceiling breaks and you happen to fall on your aunt and 0.71

00:59:36.480 you impregnate her by falling on her um that's not uh haram and the child is halal right like 0.92

00:59:44.380 he actually wrote that scenario and like i mean how disgusting do you have to be how depraved do 0.75

00:59:52.580 have to be to even come up with with that sort of scenario or to even think that that's okay right 0.88

00:59:59.220 but but this is the mentality of the islamic republic so when we tell you that these people 0.97

01:00:05.860 are deranged when we tell you that they are disgusting when we tell you that um they are just 0.97

01:00:14.020 vile vile savages we're not exaggerating and again these are things that all of us you know 1.00

01:00:20.580 know within Iranian society we know because we have been exposed to it we've had to deal with it 1.00

01:00:26.120 right and all of this jihadi nonsense but non-Iranians don't know and and you guys don't 1.00

01:00:33.500 know the depravity of the Islamic Republic so when you know the king here he's talking about 0.68

01:00:39.980 Khomeini's pamphlet and all the bad things within the pamphlet he's being very very polite because 1.00

01:00:47.540 one of those bad things is exactly the scenario that i told you about right the scenario where 0.96

01:00:53.220 the islamists talk about if you impregnate your aunt because you fall on her during an earthquake 0.98

01:00:58.980 the baby is halal so let's let's continue this but yeah let me go back a little bit because now 0.98

01:01:05.060 you get the reference for when he talks about the the pamphlet and all the bad things in it

01:01:10.020 that they saw with their own eyes khomeini's face in the moon we're not talking about an

01:01:16.580 uneducated person be subject to some propaganda or brainwashing this is a university professor

01:01:22.740 saying that so when the intelligentsia intellectuals fall into those trappings

01:01:28.100 they didn't even know what how many really stood for nobody had really read his pamphlet which if

01:01:34.900 you read today was i mean this is just some badness behind it and the whole process which

01:01:42.260 was extremely opaque, obscure. Many started by saying Islamic Republic, you know, and that's it.

01:01:49.940 And people were called to a referendum without even knowing what it's been proposed. Voting in

01:01:54.660 plain view with somebody with a Kalashnikov standing on a barrel and you had to throw either

01:01:59.700 a green or a red, you know, in plain view. That's the other thing as well. No one ever

01:02:05.620 talks about the fact that the you know the election that happened back in 1979 it wasn't

01:02:12.140 actually a real referendum because there were like he just said there were people there with

01:02:16.980 sorry with kalashnikovs right who were watching you vote and seeing how you voted right so

01:02:24.580 obviously no one is going to vote um for you know no one's going to vote against everyone's going to 0.97

01:02:31.080 vote in favor because you don't want your head shot off right you don't want to be um murdered

01:02:35.600 So there was no free or fair election or referendum. 0.98

01:02:39.600 It was literally an Islamic takeover. 1.00

01:02:42.600 It was an occupation. 0.90

01:02:44.600 That's what happened in 1979.

01:02:47.600 So what I'm trying to say is that as it was evolving,

01:02:51.600 the momentum was such in that frenzy

01:02:55.600 and mostly instigated by these two groups

01:02:58.600 that what could have been possibly been done.

01:03:00.600 Some people retrospectively say,

01:03:02.600 You say, well, maybe the regime was too slow to react to that demand.

01:03:07.520 And I'm not saying there were legitimate demands for liberalization.

01:03:11.060 And a lot of honest, genuine liberals at the time were not wrong.

01:03:15.880 And my father actually wanted to do that.

01:03:18.140 Why would you educate a nation knowing that tomorrow they would have more demands and more need for participation?

01:03:24.460 But we should not forget that this was at the time of the Cold War.

01:03:27.500 This is at the time that some of these groups were affiliated during the bidding of a foreign power.

01:03:32.600 The two-day party was basically the instrument of intervention in Iran on behalf of Moscow.

01:03:39.140 It was very clear.

01:03:41.020 Maybe in today's generation, they don't quite relate to that era, but that's how things were at the time.

01:03:46.900 Anyway, the point is that as soon as the regime took over, they started to immediately take on the intelligentsia.

01:03:55.940 They closed universities.

01:03:57.720 They threw professors in jail.

01:03:59.960 Well, what I'm saying is that there was a sudden realization that we cannot stay in

01:04:05.220 this country. 1.00

01:04:06.220 They were immediately persecuted if they were a religious minority, Baha'is Jews had to 1.00

01:04:10.520 escape the first exodus of Iranians that came out of Iran and were lucky enough to be able

01:04:16.400 to escape because of their political persuasions or because of their religious beliefs or because

01:04:22.260 they were members of the previous regime.

01:04:24.260 Anyway, there was a massive brain drain that started early on. 0.92

01:04:29.720 And it started creating what today you see in terms of the Iranian diaspora and how affluent

01:04:39.260 and capable they are in terms of creativity.

01:04:43.240 Many of them run corporations, industries, medical centers.

01:04:48.520 And that should be, again, a way for whether you're an American or a foreigner looking,

01:04:53.140 okay, who are Iranians?

01:04:55.320 What do they say?

01:04:56.320 What do they think?

01:04:57.320 What are they capable of?

01:04:58.320 contrast to what this regime is projecting, that's where you can see the contrast.

01:05:02.880 That's what people in Iran today see as a contrast.

01:05:06.480 The children that were on the streets of Iran protesting in latter years, in various moments,

01:05:13.260 they were the ones who are no longer duped.

01:05:15.240 They do their own due diligence.

01:05:16.860 They do their own research.

01:05:18.180 So there's no more naivete that did exist in 1978, 79.

01:05:22.440 Sorry, I just, I wanted to bring up a comment by one of our members.

01:05:27.420 So Cyrus, such an important point.

01:05:29.840 And, you know, I referred to this earlier, but you're absolutely right.

01:05:32.660 So one of the triggers of the major protests leading to, you know, the revolution was a fire in Cinema Rex.

01:05:39.760 Cinema Rex was a movie theater in the city of Abaddon.

01:05:43.620 And the movie theater basically went on fire. 0.78

01:05:46.760 And the Islamists, what they did is while people were inside watching a movie, they barricaded all of the doors, preventing anyone from exiting. 0.92

01:05:55.820 and then they lit the cinema on fire 0.92

01:05:58.400 and everyone inside the movie theater

01:06:00.380 was basically like burned to death.

01:06:03.300 They were murdered.

01:06:04.400 But the Islamists blamed the Shah.

01:06:06.560 So at the time that this happened,

01:06:08.720 they blamed the Shah of Iran, right?

01:06:11.560 Again, to propagate the narrative

01:06:13.660 that the Shah is a dictator and brutal 0.96

01:06:15.680 and murders Iranians, whatever. 0.98

01:06:17.680 And that is one of the things 1.00

01:06:19.500 that propagated the, you know,

01:06:21.940 fueled the revolution.

01:06:23.920 But then afterwards, you know, 0.95

01:06:25.640 when the Islamists had already taken over, and it was too late to go back, people realized, 0.73

01:06:31.100 oh, wow, the Islamists lied to us. It was not, it was not the Shah that did this. It was the 0.68

01:06:38.000 Islamists themselves. Again, right, this, this ties in directly with the MO of how Islamic terrorists 0.99

01:06:45.680 operate. Right. And, you know, it was it's so all that stuff about the Shah being a dictator, 0.96

01:06:50.760 It was absolutely false. The Shah loved his people. All of this death and violence and murder you see was at the cause of the Islamists. It was their fault. They were the ones who were doing it. And it's the same pattern of behavior that you're seeing today in Gaza. And, you know, of course, the attacks against Israel as well as it was in 1979. The Islamists all operate with the same jihadi mentality.

01:07:18.480 Thank you. Thank you for that, Cyrus. Very important. And, you know, maybe at some point in the future, I will talk about Cinema Rex and expand more on that, because I think that's something that people definitely need to know about in order to understand the lies, right? The lies that are being propagated by the Islamists. 1.00

01:07:39.340 At the time of the revolution.

01:07:40.480 Do you think that any of the Iranians have any resentment towards the West? Are they blaming the CIA or the UK? Is there any of that type of resentment there?

01:07:55.740 Look, let me give you a tacit example of the expectation that exists in Iran in terms

01:08:05.040 of how can the free world come to our help.

01:08:11.120 During the Green Movement, there were a lot of slogans, it was during the Obama administration.

01:08:18.580 And you could see signs that people were holding in the English language to any camera covering

01:08:25.420 But clearly, they were not practicing their linguistic skills, they were trying to send

01:08:30.260 you a message.

01:08:31.260 In fact, they were chanting, Obama, Obama, Yaba Una, Yaba Ma, which means either with

01:08:35.940 them or with us, pick your side.

01:08:41.420 And throughout the years, you saw that the messaging coming from Iran, at a time that

01:08:46.140 there was no social media, which makes it more accessible to see what people actually

01:08:50.300 think, was not covered by foreign media.

01:08:54.260 So it was always in the mindset of dealing with the regime, falling into the trappings

01:08:59.580 of, well, there are more moderate elements rather than the more hardcore.

01:09:03.620 Maybe we can reason with them.

01:09:05.120 Maybe we can have a strategy of behavior change and a policy of trying to cut a deal with 0.99

01:09:10.660 them and what have you while Iranians were getting repressed at home. 0.98

01:09:15.860 And I think the biggest reproach that Iranians have towards countries like America or its

01:09:21.520 allies in the western world is that haven't you yet seen the difference between us and our values 0.51

01:09:27.840 and our aspiration which is the very same thing that you as americans or french enjoy in terms

01:09:32.800 of liberty and justice and human rights in your countries and instead of helping us get rid of the

01:09:37.760 regime that is taking also rise from us you insist on dealing with them over our head and throw us

01:09:42.800 under the bus every every time that we we face this crisis oh uh just shout out to scott thank

01:09:50.960 you for being my newest member and supporting the chat i really appreciate you welcome to

01:09:57.680 welcome to the goldie club i guess i still don't have a name for the memberships just the the goldie

01:10:03.760 club i don't know what we should come up you know what we should come up with a name for um everyone

01:10:09.520 who becomes a member and and i'm definitely going to have member only um member only chats at some

01:10:16.400 point as well in the future this is that i think is what frustrates many of my competitors back

01:10:22.240 home just how else are we supposed to defend ourselves unarmed unequipped against an extremely

01:10:27.840 repressive regime why is it the the goldie gang the goldie gang i guess gg right the alliteration

01:10:38.000 there works, but okay, I'll think about it. I'll think about that.

01:10:41.520 That when you know this regime is repressing us at home and is conducting its proxy war abroad,

01:10:47.440 not only you don't put more pressure on them, you reward them by releasing more money to them, 0.63

01:10:52.720 which of course is not going to be spent on people in Iran and their economic

01:10:57.440 situation. It's going to be spent on this whole proxy war. And that is adding insult to injury.

01:11:02.880 That's really what I think most Iranians today look upon.

01:11:06.660 Why it is that we are being completely ignored and thrown under the bus.

01:11:10.980 So interesting.

01:11:12.800 Why is it that Iran is involved in proxy wars? 0.97

01:11:17.680 Why are they doing this to the world? 0.97

01:11:20.000 Okay, first thing you have to...

01:11:21.300 So this is so frustrating. 0.82

01:11:23.060 Like the Shah, literally earlier on, right?

01:11:26.560 He said, I'm asking people to stop conflating Iran with the Islamic Republic, right? 0.59

01:11:33.840 Because Iran is occupied by the Islamic Republic.

01:11:38.260 Iran is a nation of, you know, peaceful, loving, you know, peace-loving people who just want to live their lives normally. 0.90

01:11:46.220 the Islamic Republic is a brutal jihadi, Islamofascist organization that has occupied

01:11:54.540 Iran and is waging war around the world. And then she literally just makes that same exact mistake 0.86

01:12:00.960 and she says, you know, why does Iran have all these proxy wars? Iran never had proxy wars. Prior

01:12:07.220 to 1979, there were no proxies. There were no Islamic terrorist proxies. It's the Islamic

01:12:13.400 republic that has created all of these proxies using the stolen money of the iranian people 0.90

01:12:20.760 so she she literally makes that mistake again to realize is that you're not talking about a

01:12:25.720 conventional government that wants to take care of his citizenry this was this see let me go back

01:12:32.600 here because this is so important so he's gonna bring out the fact like what i've been saying is 0.98

01:12:36.680 that the islamic republic is not a normal legitimate government it is a terrorist organization that 0.88

01:12:43.240 has occupied iran and is using iran as an atm to fuel its jihad um and terrorism around the world 0.85

01:12:51.560 right um oh scott thank you thank you for that um i really appreciate i really appreciate the

01:13:01.880 support means means a lot okay let's go back and listen to this part again because now now he's

01:13:07.880 going to um dig into a little bit about why the islamic republic is not a legitimate government

01:13:16.680 right it is literally um a terrorist organization that is occupying iran and has taken iran hostage 0.80

01:13:23.800 that wants to take care of his citizenry this was this was not the objective of khomeini the first

01:13:29.800 place go back a little bit sorry and it's conducting its proxy war abroad not only you

01:13:35.240 don't put more pressure on them. You reward them by releasing more money to them, which of course

01:13:40.520 is not going to be spent on people in Iran and their economic situation. It's going to be spent

01:13:46.040 on this whole proxy war. And that is adding insult to injury. That's really what I think

01:13:51.640 most Iranians today look upon why it is that we are being completely ignored and thrown under the

01:13:56.840 bus. So interesting. Why is it that Iran is involved in proxy wars? Why are they doing this

01:14:05.880 to the world? Okay. First thing you have to realize is that you're not talking about a

01:14:10.040 conventional government that wants to take care of its citizenry. This was not the objective

01:14:17.320 of Khomeini in the first place. Khomeini simply looked at Iran as a launching pad

01:14:22.600 to export an ideology, to create a modern day Shiite caliphate, to dominate the region and beyond. 0.91

01:14:30.600 In order to do that, you have to be able to use every tool at your disposal, in what way you can 0.95

01:14:37.480 impose that in the region and beyond. And the proxy war is part of that strategy.

01:14:42.360 And from the very beginning, in fact, the IRGC is mandated.

01:14:46.280 is so irgc stands for islamic revolutionary guard corps so you know even the institutions that the

01:14:56.080 islamic republic created in 1979 don't have the word iranian in them right so the islamic republic

01:15:02.560 is the most anti-iranian institution in and of itself right like there is nothing iranian about 0.96

01:15:09.000 them and every organization they created to maintain their own legitimacy and power

01:15:13.540 does not have the word Iranian. It has the word Islamic. A lot of people make that mistake because

01:15:19.200 they just see the word I and it's just a bunch of letters put together. So they see IRGC and

01:15:31.300 they think it's Iranian something when it's absolutely not. It's Islamic. It's the Islamic 0.99

01:15:36.640 Revolutionary Guard Corps, right? The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps was created to protect

01:15:42.960 and maintain the Islamic Republic that's occupying Iran.

01:15:47.140 It's just unfortunate that both words start with the same letter.

01:15:50.800 So people make that mistake between Islamic and Iranian.

01:15:54.940 But IRGC stands for Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.

01:15:58.360 In carrying out the arms part of helping that exportation of this ideology around the globe,

01:16:05.820 it's in their mission statement.

01:16:08.300 And oddly enough, there's nowhere mentioned the word Iran in that organization.

01:16:12.960 do you say it's not an iranian entity it's called the islamic revolutionary guard corps

01:16:19.260 in support of the regime why was it created and i know the people are involved in that creation

01:16:25.560 oh it's shiva thank you so much for the super sticker i really appreciate that very very kind

01:16:32.520 of you so okay so here the shah he actually he just says what i said earlier he said it's the

01:16:40.280 Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, nothing Iranian about it.

01:16:45.060 This ideology around the globe, it's in their mission statement.

01:16:50.260 And oddly enough, there's nowhere mentioned the word Iran in that organization.

01:16:55.820 Don't say it's not an Iranian entity.

01:16:57.980 It's called the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps in support of the regime.

01:17:03.800 Why was it created?

01:17:05.260 And I know the people who are involved in that creation, because they knew that they

01:17:09.100 cannot trust the army.

01:17:10.280 And therefore, they had to create a buffer between the army, and it started very early

01:17:15.580 on, including when the Iran-Iraq War started.

01:17:20.860 And it was supposed to be a guarantee of protecting the regime from a potential military

01:17:26.400 coup against it by the military.

01:17:28.160 So a second military that is loyal and reports directly to the current Islamic regime.

01:17:35.160 and basically for protecting them by not trusting the military and creating that buffer what happened

01:17:41.400 of course next is that this organization became more and more a mafia-like organization getting

01:17:47.240 involved in every aspect of control and commerce and business in iran so that's why it is an entity

01:17:54.040 that is actually powerful because it's in symbiosis with the regime how big is it how

01:18:01.800 How many people work for this IRGC?

01:18:04.740 It's certainly, if not more than the military,

01:18:09.560 or even if there are some military components,

01:18:11.380 a lot of it is controlled by the IRGC,

01:18:13.360 but it has become a point that they really have a lot of clot.

01:18:17.980 And if you look at every time the regime has been intervening regionally,

01:18:22.300 whether in Syria or even Lebanon and other places,

01:18:25.240 there's some kind of an IRGC entity involved in that aspect.

01:18:29.820 Yeah, guys, let me let me give you a little bit of a backgrounder on the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. So for those of you who are not familiar with this, let me just share my screen here. Okay, I got to remove this one first.

01:18:47.700 okay so this is from wikipedia wikipedia usually not trustworthy but don't worry like i'm gonna

01:18:58.600 go through this with you guys and if there's anything here that's a bit wonky i'll let you

01:19:02.340 guys know but but so this is this is a brief primer on the islamic revolutionary guard corps

01:19:07.680 so what the shah was saying is very important the islamic revolutionary guard corps is basically

01:19:13.000 this like paramilitary force that was created after 1979 by the islamic republic and it was made

01:19:21.480 uh basically to defend the islamic republic from the military right because the military always

01:19:27.640 existed um so they created the islamic revolutionary guard corps to protect the

01:19:33.320 ayatollahs and the islamic republic from the military and then what they did subsequently

01:19:38.840 is within the military, they also executed all of the top generals and commanders, and then they

01:19:44.960 replaced them eventually with their own people. But there's still not as much trust for the

01:19:51.480 military, which we call the artish in Persian. There's not as much trust for the artish as there

01:19:57.760 is for the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, right? So the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps

01:20:03.340 right now is extremely well-funded, the Artish, not as much. And people who are within the IRGC

01:20:11.300 generally tend to be much more loyal to the Islamic Republic than those who are within

01:20:17.220 the regular army. However, we are right now at a critical time within the Iranian revolution

01:20:25.660 process because we know that there are at least um at minimum 50 000 people if not more

01:20:32.820 who have defected from both the irgc and the artis who have defected from the islamic republic

01:20:41.080 and have uh basically um um announced their loyalty to the current shah of iran right the

01:20:50.740 one, the gentleman who's speaking, there's a Pahlavi. So, so, so there is a lot of moving parts

01:20:56.900 behind the scenes. And I will definitely speak about that in another live stream. And I'll go

01:21:02.740 into the military defections and sort of the relationship there. But for now, just a little

01:21:07.740 bit of a primer on the IRGC. So, you know, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, I don't know

01:21:14.720 why they say Iranian Revolutionary Guard, because again, there's like that, that's like, that's

01:21:19.160 misinformation right there. So that's deliberate misinformation from people who are trying to

01:21:25.820 conflate the two. No one calls it the Iranian Revolutionary Guard. Even in Farsi, in Persian,

01:21:31.980 we don't call it the Iranian Revolutionary Guard. And in Farsi, actually, it's called

01:21:36.260 Sepahipastaran, right? So this logo here, this is the logo of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.

01:21:44.440 You can see they got their Allah there or whatever. It's Arabic. And then this symbol here, I mean, if this looks familiar to you, that's because it is. That's very similar to what Hezbollah uses, right?

01:21:59.700 And Hezbollah, Hezbollah is a proxy of the Islamic Republic. So Hezbollah is a proxy of these people. It is fully funded by the Islamic Republic, even though Hezbollah is comprised of like, you know, Lebanese Arab people.

01:22:16.860 And then here, so on the logo of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, it says, let me just make it bigger for you. It says,

01:22:26.860 So again, nowhere in the logo of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps do we see the word Iran.

01:22:45.140 There is, in fact, nothing here, nothing here that would indicate that the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps is Iranian, except for the fact that the language is Farsi.

01:22:59.560 OK, the language is Persian and only Iranians speak Persian.

01:23:04.840 But there's literally nothing Iranian about this. 0.93

01:23:09.340 I mean, even like the Allah, right? Like it's all just very like Islamic jihadi nonsense. So that's the logo of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, right? So it's a multi-service primary branch of the Iranian armed forces. 1.00

01:23:30.280 So the Iranian armed forces, that's the Artish, right? That's the military. So it was officially established by Khomeini, you know, the evil cleric, you know, there he is with his ugly, ugly jihadi face and cloak and turban as a military branch in May 1979 in the aftermath of the Iranian revolution.

01:23:51.240 so this is this is the important part and i'll just you know read this out for you guys and 0.66

01:23:56.280 i'll explain it and then we'll go back to the interview where is the army so this is what the

01:24:00.400 king was talking about whereas the iranian army you know protects the country's sovereignty in

01:24:06.720 a traditional capacity so the army of the country plays the same role as as any army around the

01:24:13.820 world, right? But the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps' constitutional mandate is to ensure the

01:24:21.860 integrity of the Islamic Republic. What does that mean? That means that every single time

01:24:26.600 Iranian people try to rise up to overthrow the Islamic Republic, the IRGC, the Islamic

01:24:33.060 Revolutionary Guard Corps, comes in, murders Iranians. The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps

01:24:38.120 comes in, brings in their proxy groups from around the Middle East, you know, brings in

01:24:42.420 people from, you know, they bring in Hezbollah, they bring in Palestinians and like Hamas, 0.98

01:24:47.960 they bring in the Houthis, they bring in like Hashteshabi, like they'll bring in all of their 0.84

01:24:52.920 proxy forces, many of them who are not even Iranian to murder Iranians who are rising up.

01:24:58.940 So, you know, I know a lot of, you know, one of the biggest questions that a lot of non-Iranians

01:25:03.700 have is if Iranians, you know, hate the regime so much, if Iranians despise the Islamic regime so

01:25:09.860 much. Why haven't you overthrown them? Well, the answer is there is literally an army that was 0.88

01:25:17.440 established in 1979 for the specific purpose of murdering Iranians whenever they try to rise up

01:25:26.180 to overthrow the Islamic Republic, right? So that's the definition of living in a totalitarian 0.84

01:25:32.500 dictatorship. So because there is this Islamic army, right, this Islamic army was created in 1.00

01:25:41.320 1979 to protect the Islamic regime and to murder Iranians. So there's the answer to why 0.99

01:25:48.800 Iranians are having difficulty overthrowing the Islamic Republic. It's because there's literally 0.94

01:25:55.480 a military force mandated, right, created for the sole purpose of murdering people when they speak

01:26:02.440 out okay let's go back to the interview now so that gives you a little bit of a primer

01:26:10.520 on what the islamic revolutionary guard corps is why it was created and why iranians are having

01:26:18.320 difficulty to overthrow overthrow the islamic regime so you may be funding hamas or hezbollah

01:26:24.820 but there is an element of the rgc involving all these characteristics which brings me to the point

01:26:30.400 of why it is that i think if they oh i just wanted to we have a start comment um the major

01:26:37.520 find immortal a military history of iran and its armed forces by stephen r word best work on the

01:26:46.480 subject in english oh wow okay thank you i will definitely look into that um and i will i will

01:26:52.000 find that book and i will give it a read thank you so much for the suggestion i appreciate that major

01:26:56.480 there's no shift in policy in terms of how do we deal with this regime how do we weaken this regime

01:27:03.040 whether it's its proxies or whether it's the regime itself one of the issues on the table

01:27:08.720 which i think should be part of that policy is the irgc should be sanctioned and placed on a list of

01:27:15.260 terrorist organization some governments are looking at that finding the legal way to do that but 0.64

01:27:20.060 if you do not show the iranian people that we know the evil work that this regime is doing 0.55

01:27:26.120 against you in repression at home and what it's doing is proxy war, you cannot expect either 0.94

01:27:31.220 Iranians at home or our immediate neighbors like the Israelis or the Saudis to think there's an

01:27:36.620 actual means of responding to the regime. And in the meantime, what do we do in dealing with 0.96

01:27:41.740 this situation? So it's not just limited to Iran. And why is it that it impacts America at the end

01:27:48.780 of the day? Because I know many times I've heard Americans say, well, you know, it's all the way

01:27:52.740 over there what should we be dragged into it anymore we had a so this is this is where he is

01:27:58.840 going to respond to all of the isolationists right so all the people who say oh we don't care what's

01:28:05.600 happening in the middle east has nothing to do with us you know we're here in america um it's

01:28:10.760 none of our business he's going to counter that right now and he's going to give you the information

01:28:15.500 that you're not getting in mainstream media right like he's going to give you the information 0.98

01:28:20.780 that the Candace Owens and the Tucker Carlson's

01:28:24.920 and all these people who defend the Islamic Republic,

01:28:29.020 they don't want you to know.

01:28:30.400 So you're about to get a very, very important breakdown here. 0.97

01:28:34.120 Bad experience in Afghanistan.

01:28:36.100 We have a bad experience in Iraq. 0.58

01:28:39.620 Once again, as taxpayers, we have to fund all these things. 0.98

01:28:43.040 But none of this needs to happen when it comes to Iran. 0.96

01:28:47.140 But you cannot hope to have an equal playing field 0.86

01:28:50.460 where you don't empower the people of Iran without taking the teeth or the, what do you 0.74

01:28:59.920 call it, the fangs out of this tiger that the regime is. 0.78

01:29:05.300 It has to be de-clothed, literally.

01:29:07.100 So you cannot have a chance of bringing real change in nations that want to have change

01:29:13.300 by continuing to, in fact, reward this regime by giving them more means that they shouldn't

01:29:18.960 have had in the first place. And that's the question that many Iranians ask. You're not

01:29:24.940 punishing the regime. You're in fact emboldening them by giving them more means to carry out their

01:29:32.060 sinister goals. You bring up the point that many of us Americans are tired of wars.

01:29:39.180 We are also financially in distress right now. Our borders are porous. We have many problems here

01:29:45.620 in America. And the idea of having to get involved in wars across the globe seems overwhelming as an

01:29:53.520 understatement. And we're not sure if that's really our priority, because our priority has

01:29:59.940 to be to take care of our own right now. And I'm curious, what is your answer to

01:30:07.260 the possibility that we don't engage? What would happen if we build a border here,

01:30:15.620 we secure our country, we focus on America, 0.98

01:30:20.100 and we let the Middle East deal with the Middle East. 0.99

01:30:25.460 What would that look like?

01:30:28.740 First, I would say that America might say,

01:30:31.860 well, we want to leave them alone.

01:30:33.340 They won't leave you alone.

01:30:35.220 That's the first thing.

01:30:36.660 They're still coming after you.

01:30:37.860 How?

01:30:38.120 So by knowing that the biggest success that they can...

01:30:42.520 It's Shiva, you make a very good point.

01:30:44.580 Let me just share this. I don't I don't normally not share. Like I usually just share started

01:30:50.520 messages, but you sent a super sticker. So I just want to share this with everyone because this is

01:30:53.940 such an important point. You know, so she says, we don't want America to go to war with us.

01:31:00.580 Just stop supporting our enemy. And that's exactly it. Like that's always been the call.

01:31:05.600 We don't want boots on the ground. We don't want America to go to war. We don't need American money.

01:31:10.400 All we're saying is stop legitimizing the Islamic Republic, right? 1.00

01:31:16.060 Stop enabling them, stop throwing them a lifeline. 0.98

01:31:20.340 Give the Iranian people instead an opportunity to rise up and overthrow the Islamic regime. 0.96

01:31:27.660 So thank you for that. It's Shiva, absolutely correct. 0.98

01:31:30.960 Can have is to pretty much defeat what they always said from get-go, the great Satan, America.

01:31:37.300 America, which is why they have always had such a hostile antagonistic as an ideological

01:31:45.260 system against the West represented chiefly by America.

01:31:49.760 But I understand, I'm a taxpayer here.

01:31:51.900 I don't want my money to end up being spent on wasted resources either.

01:31:55.960 But you should not assume that the issue in Iran has to be a war.

01:32:03.540 And let me explain you why.

01:32:05.020 Because the dynamics of change in Iran is a matter of what is the agent for change in

01:32:09.940 Iran?

01:32:10.940 What is the element that can bring down the system? 1.00

01:32:13.900 It's no other than the Iranian people themselves. 1.00

01:32:16.940 It's your natural army on the ground already, except for they are fighting the fight with 0.99

01:32:23.980 no support whatsoever.

01:32:26.220 You won't need to engage America in any kind of conflict.

01:32:30.860 In fact, I would be opposed in principle. 0.83

01:32:34.440 amir he's not actually the shah is not actually an american citizen um his passport uh is from

01:32:41.560 monaco and citizenship is um unspecified so uh he's not actually um an american citizen

01:32:50.520 uh but he's basically been living there since the the revolution because he was in texas at the time

01:32:56.680 um that the islamic revolution happened he was 18 years old so he's pretty much been uh in in america

01:33:03.000 for for most of it but yeah his passport is from monaco and citizenship is unspecified

01:33:09.960 in any kind of foreign intervention but i do believe that if you're bringing the necessary

01:33:15.960 element of pressure on the regime equally the playing field for iranians you don't have to

01:33:22.920 do anything much more than that because the rest will be done by the people themselves but we need

01:33:27.160 to have a major shift in policy that has yet to exist in the western world because they're still

01:33:33.080 in the mindset of cutting a deal and compromise and expecting behavior change which was a flawed

01:33:37.960 expectation to begin with and simply proves there's a great deal of naivety and understanding

01:33:43.640 that the dna of this regime is one that it cannot be compatible and coexisting in the world as we

01:33:49.000 know it because in their view it's either you or them there's no gray area therefore

01:33:54.760 what it is that, let's say, America could do to make a difference.

01:34:01.160 Not just America, but America chiefly, because when America leads,

01:34:05.180 others probably follow.

01:34:06.720 And the sense that I have always suggested a two-pronged approach,

01:34:11.820 a parallel approach.

01:34:12.720 One is a campaign of maximum pressure on the regime.

01:34:16.120 That means in the form of sanctions, in forms of, example,

01:34:19.900 putting the IRGC, which America has done that already.

01:34:22.600 Your allies in Europe have yet to do that.

01:34:24.760 but that simply means you're bringing more way of curtailing the regime's ability to have

01:34:29.240 access in resources or do anything that they do regionally by the proxies or back home.

01:34:35.160 Parallel to that, you have to have a component of maximum support.

01:34:40.360 Let me give you two tacit examples. One of the key issues for those of us trying to coordinate

01:34:45.160 efforts in terms of organizing whatever we need to organize against the regime

01:34:48.760 is communication, which is vital. Access to the internet, free flow of information.

01:34:54.200 And these are the kind of things that will facilitate Iranians not to be detached from 1.00

01:34:59.040 the world and be disconnected from the world, which is something the regime is attempting to do 0.98

01:35:03.180 all the time. And parallel to that, maybe find ways of giving financial means and support

01:35:10.000 to encourage and assist in the case of labor strikes, which I think is the quickest way to

01:35:15.980 paralyzed regime from within by finding a way to fund it without a penny of American

01:35:24.440 or others tax dollars be spent on.

01:35:29.220 How? 0.53

01:35:30.220 There are many frozen assets, which is the Iranian people's money in the first place, 0.70

01:35:35.080 that can be repurposed or allocated to support such campaigns of civil disobedience.

01:35:41.900 All of this will contribute to a complete leverage issue.

01:35:47.900 But it's also important because when people see light at the end of the tunnel, when they

01:35:52.540 see that there's actual solidarity, this time with them, finally, after four decades, when 0.84

01:35:58.920 they see that this time the world is serious about telling the people of Iran, we had enough

01:36:06.000 with this regime, we have given them ample opportunities to come clean, and they haven't.

01:36:10.960 Meanwhile, the conflict is escalating, and this may become pretty soon an unavoidable

01:36:16.500 conflict. 1.00

01:36:18.080 The only solution that remains is put an end to this regime, but by helping the Iranian

01:36:23.440 people bringing it down.

01:36:24.660 But that requires some support.

01:36:26.300 Many of these campaigns in other countries did not succeed without tacit support from

01:36:30.280 the free world.

01:36:31.660 The same case applies to Iran.

01:36:33.780 And in that sense, you don't have to engage your troops.

01:36:36.640 You don't have to spend your own money, but you can find ways of actually helping those campaigns within Iran to finally have a chance to be successful.

01:36:47.240 That's so important. So again, like he's making the point very clear.

01:36:50.740 He's saying we don't need American money.

01:36:54.020 We don't need to engage American troops.

01:36:56.400 But there are diplomatic ways of supporting the efforts of those who are trying to overthrow the Islamic Republic. 0.89

01:37:04.260 Right. So guys have to keep in mind when you when you hear all of these alarmists who come out and then they start screaming about, oh, World War Three, we don't want America to go to another war.

01:37:18.380 You know, we don't want to waste American money. These people are coming from a very bad and nefarious place.

01:37:24.660 These are the same people who are constantly defending the Islamic Republic and trying to maintain its legitimacy.

01:37:35.440 So one of the tactics that they use, right, it's this disinformation campaign where they try to convince Americans that the only way the regime can be overthrown in Iran is for America to go in and change it.

01:37:49.140 And that is literally the farthest thing from the truth that anyone is saying.

01:37:53.200 We have never said that. We will never say that. We don't want that, right? But these people are funded to spread that propaganda, to spread that narrative. Why? Because this is how they keep the Islamic regime in power. They keep the Islamic regime in power by making Americans think that the only thing that can change the Islamic regime is World War III, right?

01:38:18.500 And then Americans all of a sudden, they're like, oh, no, no, we don't want to support, we don't want to support, we don't want World War III, not understanding or not realizing that they are falling for the disinformation campaign that's being promoted by the Islamic regime and through the allies of the Islamic regime, including many pundits in the United States, right? 0.81

01:38:40.680 many pundits in the United States. And then there are unfortunately a lot of people who might not 0.55

01:38:46.940 necessarily be as familiar with how the Islamic Republic operates. And because they always take 1.00

01:38:53.260 a non-interventionalist stance and because they don't know anything about Iran, they assume that

01:39:01.100 Iran is like Afghanistan or Iraq or Libya or whatever, they'll just automatically lump in

01:39:07.880 Iran with those other countries, not understanding that Iran is a completely

01:39:13.780 different scenario, completely different society. And prior to the Islamic takeover of Iran in 1979,

01:39:23.860 Iran was a fully functioning democratic constitutional monarchy, right? So that

01:39:32.500 Islamist narrative, unfortunately, has propagated the media quite a bit. And even a lot of people

01:39:38.820 who don't know much about Iran will push that narrative or promote that narrative

01:39:47.040 just because they don't know any better. So again, like what he is saying is we don't need

01:39:51.980 American money. We don't need troops on the ground. There's no need to start World War III.

01:39:57.060 The only ask from Iranian people is stop legitimizing the Islamic regime. Stop making deals with them. Stop giving them money. Right. Because the more money you give them, the more they're able to fund terrorism, the more they are able to remain in power by strengthening the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. 1.00

01:40:18.400 Again, what's the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps? The IRGC is that paramilitary branch that they created in order to maintain power and in order to remain in power. So when you send the money, the money does not go to the Iranian people. The money goes to terrorism. It goes to the IRGC. It goes to Hezbollah. It goes to Hamas. It goes to the Houthis, right?

01:40:44.300 so that's where um the the misinformation really comes in and then it drowns out the um the people

01:40:52.680 um okay i oh i have a question um let me pull this up so omai says do you know what countries

01:41:00.720 or people are funding the islamic regime i just got on it's very interesting and i'm learning a

01:41:06.340 lot well welcome thank you for for joining great always great to see new people come and join us

01:41:12.200 So, oh, my, I appreciate you and I'm glad that you're liking this.

01:41:16.480 So the two major funders of the Islamic Republic are Russia and China, of course.

01:41:23.620 Surprise, surprise.

01:41:25.820 They do a lot of deals. 0.95

01:41:29.740 They do a lot of deals with the Islamic Republic behind the scenes. 0.68

01:41:35.260 So there you go.

01:41:36.500 And my understanding is that the Islamic Republic has been sort of circumventing some of the economic sanctions put on by the United States with the help of China, although now that President Trump has come back into power, that seems to be going down a bit.

01:41:53.660 But the two major, major trading partners of the Islamic Republic are Russia and China.

01:42:02.700 it also facilitates the transition post-regime because i know that some of the concern is are

01:42:12.680 we going to have a scenario of chaos is it going to be a vacuum that is not filled are we going

01:42:18.420 to have some that's the other thing so this goes to the whole narrative of people are like oh we

01:42:22.940 don't want another libya or or iraq or afghanistan you know like um if the regime has changed it's

01:42:29.660 going to be chaos. It's going to be civil war. Again, that's another narrative that's pushed

01:42:34.140 by the Islamic Republic in order to prevent the world from supporting Iranians who want to 0.99

01:42:42.580 overthrow it. I mean, we were a fully functioning constitutional monarchy prior to 1979. And that

01:42:50.960 is what many of us want to go back to. And in fact, he's going to mention this a little bit,

01:42:55.980 But we do have a plan for the day after the Islamic Republic is overthrown.

01:43:02.800 And I will be speaking about the day after plan in a future episode.

01:43:07.640 So make sure that you're following me because I go live Monday to Fridays at 12 noon Eastern.

01:43:14.300 So definitely want to be around for that because I'm going to break down the day after plan for you.

01:43:20.360 So he does mention it very, very briefly here, but there have been some major updates since this interview.

01:43:28.880 Let me go back just a little bit, and then we'll continue on.

01:43:34.540 People are bringing it down, but that requires some support.

01:43:37.520 Many of these campaigns in other countries did not succeed without tacit support from the free world.

01:43:42.880 The same case applies to Iran.

01:43:44.920 And in that sense, you don't have to engage your troops.

01:43:47.880 You don't have to spend your own money, but you can find ways of actually helping those

01:43:54.280 campaigns within Iran to finally have a chance to be successful.

01:43:58.440 It also facilitates the transition post-regime.

01:44:02.600 Because I know that some of the concern is, are we going to have a scenario of chaos?

01:44:07.780 Is it going to be a vacuum that is not filled?

01:44:10.460 Are we going to have some situation of anarchy and instability?

01:44:13.540 Well, what I'm suggesting is that this strategy includes a controlled implosion with a plan

01:44:21.780 for transition post-regime into the next phase and has its component.

01:44:27.380 And it also includes maximum defections from the regime because unlike what happened, example,

01:44:33.420 what happened post Saddam Hussein in Iraq and debaithification, which was disastrous

01:44:38.220 in terms of consequence, this time we're not saying that everybody on the job has to disappear.

01:44:43.480 long as their hand is not sold in Iranian people's blood they can survive regime change and they can

01:44:49.400 have a place and a role to play in the future right so what he's saying here is that

01:44:55.160 you know there are a lot of people that are within the government right the government

01:44:59.240 that's controlled by the islamic republic um who are not criminals themselves right like they're

01:45:04.840 they're just part of the government right there's a lot of technocrats a lot of bureaucrats

01:45:09.240 right a lot of people whose whose job is you know running the day-to-day affairs of the country you 0.97

01:45:15.160 know to the best of their ability because it is an islamic dictatorship but what he's saying 0.66

01:45:20.360 is that um there is a place for these people the day after the islamic republic is overthrown 0.62

01:45:26.760 right like it's the country is not going to go into a state of chaos these people are not going

01:45:31.400 to necessarily lose their jobs um you know unless you know like he says their hands are covered in

01:45:36.840 blood so if someone is a terrorist or a murderer or you know a criminal of course they're gonna

01:45:42.680 have to you know go to court and and you know face justice um but it's it's not like that like this

01:45:51.240 revolution is not like to go in and just you know overhaul all the technocrats and bureaucrats no in

01:45:58.200 fact um those technocrats and bureaucrats are a very important part of the revolution and they're

01:46:04.760 a very important part of the overthrow of the Islamic regime and in maintaining the stability

01:46:14.440 of the country as we transition from a totalitarian Islamic dictatorship to a functioning secular

01:46:22.360 democracy. So you're talking about a national reconciliation based on amnesty and not revenge,

01:46:30.360 not on retribution while justice can still exist for people who have to seek that but in the spirit

01:46:37.400 of more of a sort of what happened in the case of south africa truth and reconciliation

01:46:43.000 those kind of approaches which means that the this is the path of least resistance for those

01:46:47.960 who can now join us who are disillusioned former reformists who know that now we have to go beyond

01:46:53.960 this regime which is the collective ask there's also one thing i just wanted to bring up really

01:46:58.520 quickly. This is something I'm going to talk about in a later podcast, but I just want to

01:47:07.420 bring it up really quickly because when he speaks about bringing people in and the revolution is

01:47:16.260 going to be in the spirit of, it's not going to be revenge. He's actually set up a website. So him

01:47:22.760 and his team have set up a website where, you know, the title is called Iran-O-Pass-Migini,

01:47:29.600 which means we will reclaim Iran. And there's actually, where is it? Let me go down here.

01:47:36.860 Where are the forms here? So, where is it? Is it here? Yeah. So, there's an option on the website

01:47:50.160 to register, right? So if you're defecting, so there's an option on the website where if you

01:47:59.640 are currently part of the Islamic Republic, you know, like let's say you're a technocrat or a

01:48:05.700 bureaucrat, you're a civil servant or whatever the case might be, there is an option for you

01:48:11.240 to register, okay, and declare your loyalty to the, you know, the Shah's leadership, basically,

01:48:23.380 and you basically commit to working with the transitional government. So there is an exit

01:48:31.360 option here, right? So a year ago, when he was speaking about how there's going to be an

01:48:39.260 opportunity for those who are currently within the islamic republic to defect and join the people

01:48:45.020 this is exactly what he's talking about this website and i will um i will share the english

01:48:51.100 version and i'll go through all of it in a different podcast but i just wanted to say

01:48:55.660 um you know everything that he speaks about um everything that he speaks about

01:49:01.580 has pretty much been done or is in the process of being done in that sense the world is lagging

01:49:08.140 behind.

01:49:09.660 Iranians today have come to the conclusion that as much as they try to reform this regime,

01:49:15.060 it cannot happen and are fed up with it.

01:49:18.540 And they want to move beyond that.

01:49:20.660 And that's where you have to connect the dots and see, as a matter of foreign policy, as

01:49:25.800 a Western democracy, with the values that we all cherish, which is the same thing that

01:49:30.660 the Iranian people want, what are we wasting time trying to reason with a regime that in

01:49:37.780 its entire uh comportment is the most alien to these values and we as iranians and me having 0.92

01:49:47.620 lived in this country for almost four decades and appreciate everything that is incorporated

01:49:54.580 in your system of justice and separation of powers and the guarantees that exist and the

01:49:58.580 institutions and the role of media and this and that and we'd like to be able to do the same

01:50:03.620 thing for ourselves in iran we are natural partners in this and i'm just conveying to

01:50:08.740 you a message on behalf of millions of my competitors to say you know if not now when

01:50:12.980 how many more generations have to be sacrificed how much more do we have to endure and americans

01:50:18.260 should not think that by not us doing something we won't be engaged you'll be dragged into it

01:50:23.860 whether you liked it or not it will still impact you economically because the regime continues to

01:50:29.300 for instance, by supporting the hoodies, certainly disrupting maritime traffic, 0.94

01:50:35.380 certainly it has an impact on oil prices and what have you. So it's not like America can all of a

01:50:40.340 sudden go into some sort of a introverted mode that we are disconnecting from everybody else

01:50:45.540 and they will be fine. That's not going to be the reality of things. But if you want to minimize the

01:50:51.140 cost for yourself in terms of your national security interests, in terms of your economic

01:50:56.180 interest. I'll go beyond about what it is that you're missing. Imagine the potential that would

01:51:01.860 be good for American entities and business if tomorrow Iran opens its door and says,

01:51:08.320 we are open for business, come and invest and help us rebuild our country. And it's a win-win

01:51:12.040 situation. So we need to start thinking what a different Iran could provide in terms of our 1.00

01:51:18.520 interests rather than, well, we don't want to be dragged into conflict anymore. Because that means 0.92

01:51:22.520 that nobody thinks beyond the status quo.

01:51:24.520 And we should start talking about beyond the status quo.

01:51:28.100 So I'm going to stop it there

01:51:29.800 because we're coming up to the two hour mark

01:51:32.620 and I don't want to rush through.

01:51:35.000 We still have about half of this interview left.

01:51:38.140 So we're definitely going to continue this next week.

01:51:41.420 I wanted to thank you all for joining.

01:51:44.420 I wanted to give a shout out to our new members,

01:51:48.200 Ahmed and Scott.

01:51:49.780 And of course, thank you to the rest of the members for being here. And of course, to everyone who supported with a super sticker or super chat. VKC, thank you as well for your support.

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01:52:26.000 And guys, I just want to let you know, I got a lot of positive feedback about my information and my live streams regarding the Nigerian genocide.

01:52:38.300 So based on your requests and my popular demand, I will be bringing Uri back on Thursday to give us an update on what's happening in Nigeria with the Christian genocide of Nigerians by Muslims.

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Goldie Ghamari - October 24, 2025

King Reza Pahlavi： Iran Is Ready for Regime Change

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