Sam Shamoun： Contradictions in Islam
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Summary
Sam Shamoon is a prominent Christian apologist and theologian of Assyrian descent, widely known for his extensive work in Christian-Muslim interfaith debates and writings. He operates primarily through the website, Answering Islam, and his popular YouTube channel, Shamounian. He is a frequent participant in debates and discussions with Muslim polemicists. Originally from an Assyrian church of the East background and a former Calvinist apologist, Sam has recently identified as a Roman Catholic and attends Catholic Mass. He is known for a confrontational, fiery, and direct style in his apologetics, which has generated both significant admiration and controversy within religious communities.
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well good afternoon good evening good morning everyone wherever you are
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Thank you for joining me for the evening live stream of, uh, the Goldie show.
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Hopefully we've, uh, you know, dealt with the internet connectivity issues that we were having
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yesterday. Um, I think, I think we're all good. Everything seems to be going pretty well. So
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let's just hope that, uh, this, this continues. Um, so I have a very interesting, uh, video that
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I want to share with all of you tonight. First of all, big shout out to the subscribers,
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the members, and of course the mods on YouTube. Thank you for being here and joining me.
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A lot of you have asked me to talk about religion specifically, and it's not really
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something that I do because my focus is more on Islamic terrorism and Islamic radicalism and of
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course fundamentalism and Middle Eastern politics. But a lot of you have asked me about it. So I
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actually found a very interesting podcast by Patrick Bet-David and he aired this about three
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weeks ago. And he had a very interesting conversation with someone named Sam Shamoon.
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So I just want to read who Sam Shamoon is. And then we're going to go ahead and we're going to
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watch that podcast together. And then, you know, we can have a conversation about it in the live
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stream. You know, I will give my thoughts here and there. But this is more of an exploratory
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video. And it's more just to give you guys an understanding, not coming from me, but coming
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from people who are much more informed when it comes to the theological side of the debate.
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Because again, my focus is politics and Islamic terrorism. So who is Sam Shamoon?
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Sam Shamoun is a prominent Christian apologist and theologian of Assyrian descent, widely known
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for his extensive work in Christian-Muslim interfaith debates and writings. He operates
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primarily through the website Answering Islam and his popular YouTube channel, Shamounian.
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um right off the top the fact that he is um an Assyrian this guy's like the OG because um like
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I've actually spoken about Assyrians in my short video clips before um you know if you've ever
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seen my Iranian here with another pro tip you know video clip um I talk about various aspects
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of the Middle East. And I have actually spoken about Assyrians and how they are one of the most
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persecuted communities in the Middle East by Islamic fundamentals and Islamic terrorists. So
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like Assyrian Christians, they're literally like the OG Christians. So I just want to put it out
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there. Key details. Focus. Shamoon's work largely concentrates on critically evaluating Islamic
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claims and defending Christian doctrines like the divinity of Jesus and the Trinity. He's a
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frequent participant in debates and discussions with Muslim polemicists. Background. Originally
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from an Assyrian church of the East background and a former Calvinist apologist, Shamoon has
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recently identified as a Roman Catholic and attends Catholic mass. Style. He is known for
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a confrontational, fiery, and direct style in his apologetics, which has generated both
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significant admiration and controversy within religious communities. But I mean, let's be
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honest, when you're part of a community that's been persecuted for the last 1400 years, yeah,
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I can understand why you would want to be fiery and direct in your style content. His articles
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and videos cover various topics, including refutations of objections against the deity of
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Jesus, analysis of the Quran and Hadith to challenge Islamic theological positions,
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Bible studies assigned to help Christians understand scripture better, and respond to
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arguments from other religious groups. All right. So there's a little background on Sam Shamoon.
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Now let's go to the actual podcast itself. So the podcast is available, of course, on PBD's channel
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and it's titled Muslims Will Be Offended. Sam Shamoon reveals Quran and Prophet Muhammad
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contradictions. And the description goes, Christian apologist Sam Shamoon joins Patrick
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Met David for a bold talk on faith, courage, and conviction. From debating Islam to defending the
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Bible, Sam shares his mission, trials, and belief that the truth must be spoken no matter the cost.
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A raw and fearless conversation about faith and action. All right, with that, let's get going. I'm
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interested to see what he has to say as well. And don't forget to like and share the YouTube
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live stream. If we all believe the same thing, we'd be the same religion. According to the New
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Testament, it's going to hurt people. Muhammad is an antichrist. There are many antichrists who
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come into the world. I know Muslims will get offended, but it is what it is. What happened
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with you and Jenko? Give him some time. There was a misunderstanding. That's fine. Have you guys
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spoken since or no go find people where they're at invite them to islam and if they accept they're
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safe if not take the jizya from them and if not kill them until the victor goes the spoils how
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you go where you were at to now being able to sit down against any muslim pretty much and have a
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strong debate with them most muslims are shocked to hear when i say oh has it aisha did you know
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she was nine when muhammad deflowered her you're a liar you're lying can you tell me how to invite
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jesus she thought i was crazy what are you talking about but i remember crying out to him
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you know and i said jesus i don't know how to invite you in but i want you in my life
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i'm not supposed to cry i'm jesus there's something very different about you that
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so i mean so far just from the clips that i heard nothing he said was incorrect
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My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right?
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Okay, we have a special guest in the house.
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It's very rare you will get three Assyrians in the room doing a podcast,
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Obviously, we know Mr. Hanson, the Assyrian Al Pacino-looking Vinny,
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and then we have the great Sam Shamon in the house.
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just like you have 12 tribes of israel we have many tribes of assyria and each tribe has a clan
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so i'm from the jilu tribe if you do a little history about us we're known as the warrior
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tribe even we speak like warriors so the jews are not going to be rejoicing now that i spoke
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yeah so i didn't know that first time i was turned on uh by your content was uh uh an old
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uh friend of ours marvin he says you got to watch this guy and i'm like this guy's incredible so
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capable talented and then obviously we invited you to have you on a podcast yeah and then eventually
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we were able to get you to be here and it's it's um i'm happy we're finally doing this well
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glory to the father of our lord jesus christ i always ask the spirit to fill me uh to help me
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to point people to christ and not bring attention to any of us because there's a danger
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among not just politics or even in celebrity figures even the apologetic realm of what i
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call cult of personality where you are drawn to a person and you idolize them and so by the grace
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of god in this field there can be no idols so it cannot be about me and how great i am
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and because we are all struggling in the flesh sometimes our ego loves to be praised and i have
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to check that right so glory to jesus christ for the gifts he gives he's given me but i pray in
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this session i disappear and jesus shines through me and that through this message everyone will be
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filled with the spirit to know that christ is the only hope of salvation and he has to be the king
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of every sphere of our life not just religiously but politically sam you're um if somebody goes and
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searches you and they type in your name and they go to views it's you and muslims back and forth
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back let's let's play one of them i'll play actually play the other one play this one here
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first that was my fears is this your first public debate so this is your first public debate go ahead
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rob yeah a woman can be beaten according to the glorious quran now do you want to get into a long
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discussion that's the what is the position of women in the quran and the bible i mean we can
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do that the book of revelation chapter 14 verses 4 and 5 shows that women will not enter paradise
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he talks about revelation 14 that doesn't work read the context it's speaking of 144 000
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of israel who were specifically chosen for a task after mentioning the 144 000 this is what you
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conveniently forgot revelation 7 verse 9 i looked and there before me was a great multitude that no
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one could count from every nation tribe people and language standing before the throne in front of
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the lamb they were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands and they
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cried out in a loud voice salvation belongs to our god yeah this is why like i'd never um
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um debate religion itself because this is like way beyond me like when it gets into um the depths
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of of these sorts of things like this is why my focus is more on um Islamic terrorism and the
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ideology that that promotes you know Islamic terrorism but um yeah I mean I guess this is
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this is interesting but um yeah like this is getting way into the theological um debate stuff
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which is just you know a whole other level but i mean i can see how it's sort of i mean in a way
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it is related to islamic terrorism because there are certain parts of the the quran um which do
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promote um terrorism um so you have to be very frank and honest about that um but like i don't
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get into the nitty-gritty like i just focus more on the practical day-to-day stuff but uh yeah let's
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let's continue this guy seems like he definitely knows his stuff our god who sits on the throne
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and to the lamb that's the context do not distort my scripture oh so so i mean this is this is where
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a lot of the stuff out there for you but what i want to do is before we go on here i just want to
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learn about you i want to know your story so walk me through how you go where you were at to now
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being able to sit down against any muslim pretty much and have a strong debate with them how did
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that happen by the way this debate i had just stopped bodybuilding just to give you a little
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background i come from a family of bodybuilders so in the 90s i used to train so when i see some
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your handsome muscular staff you know i started getting envy you know visa sin but yeah i was
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just looking at myself i even though i stopped bodybuilding i didn't stop eating as if i was a
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bodybuilder but to give you a little background i was born in kuwait 1972 came to chicago in 1974.
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so pretty much i've been raised in america a chicagoan don't know much about the middle east
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Though our parents are Christian, if you're from an Assyrian background,
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they'll either be typically part of the Assyrian Church of the East,
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or in the case if you come from Iran specifically,
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they'll either be Presbyterian, because we had a lot of missionaries
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that came to the Middle East and converted the Assyrians to, let's say, Presbyterianism.
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But historically, the church of the Assyrians is in the West called Nestorian Church.
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Yeah, interesting that he mentioned Iran. I'm actually kind of glad he did. Patrick David himself is an Assyrian-Iranian, and he's Christian as well. He was born in Iran and left Iran at the age of eight with his parents.
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historians it's not a compliment and i want to boggle you down with the details but there was
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a bishop in the fifth century named bishop nestorius who was accused of teaching that there
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are two persons in christ that he's a divine person human person and that's blasphemy and so
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the assyrians have been labeled nestorian but it's not a compliment it's meant to ostracize
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the assyrian church because the bible teaches and the church teaches christ is one person
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he's an eternal uncreated divine person who became flesh from the holy virgin so to say he's two
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persons is blasphemy so they were accused of holding to the two-person theory of christ which
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is not true so that's my background and i don't know if you come from that background typically
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if you're from that background you'll be baptized as an infant but even presbyterians baptize
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infants but for a different reason so not to bog you with the details in the assyrian church
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Water baptism is the means by which the Spirit comes on you,
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makes you one with Christ, so that you're already part of Christ's body.
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Presbyterians believe that water baptism is the sign
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that makes you a member of the covenant community,
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the new covenant of Jesus Christ, but it doesn't regenerate you.
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So I was baptized, Assyrian Church of the East,
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but my parents never told me about christianity i didn't learn about christianity from my parents
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never told me who jesus was what the bible is i remember going to go to church well they would
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take me to church but i didn't know what we're doing like once a week maybe once every couple
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of weeks you know christmas i had no idea that's none whatsoever but my introduction to christianity
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came from a nine-year-old Assyrian boy named Raymond Malko from Lebanon. He preached to me the
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gospel of Jesus Christ. In Chicago? Yep, at nine. He was nine years old. Six and a half. He's nine,
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you're six and a half. Yes. His grandmother was a godly, saintly woman. She was from a Catholic
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background, but his uncles on his mother's side, they were taught Baptist theology. So if you're
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familiar with what they call the independent fundamental say i'm giving you too many like
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denominations but it is what it is there are a lot of denominations and the independent
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fundamental baptist denomination believe that you have to go soul winning win souls for christ
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so you got to go knock on doors and lead them into the sinner's prayer so his uncles taught
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him that theology so he would go soul winning so he found this soul and for the first couple
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weeks i just ignored him i thought he was crazy but then one day he got my attention because he
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said jesus christ and i'm giving you the just remember i'm the six and a half i'm 53 you know
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and it's kind of sad you guys are younger than me that's scaring me i'm better looking and healthier
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lord i pray for that glorified body sooner than later so he told me jesus christ is a son of god
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see if i talk about the story you know i get a little emotional so and he told me off that he
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loved me so much he died for me that rocked me at six and a half to know someone would love me that
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much to die for me so he taught me the sinner's prayer it's in his prayers you know you say lord
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jesus i'm a sinner come into my heart now being a kid i thought i had to recite that prayer word
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for word because we take everything literally right and he told me do it at night so i took
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him literally i had to wait till night so i was afraid i was going to forget the prayer and i
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kept reciting it and night came and i forgot it but i remember that night and i remember that
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i was in tears my mom was next to me and uh i told her i remember waking her up saying can you tell
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me how to invite jesus she thought i was crazy what are you talking about but i remember crying
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out to him you know and i said jesus i don't know how to invite you in but i want you in my life
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so six and a half he would do street evangelism there are people from the neighborhood chicago
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foster and clark street there are people who are listening who are going to remember this
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he actually would lead you can tell um how strong his faith is because he's literally getting
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emotional sharing this childhood story of of his like you can just hear the passion in his voice
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me and he would preach and we'd gather crowds a nine-year-old because it's shocking
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I mean, a nine-year-old, and he'd preach fire and brimstone and hell.
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Now, you fast forward, he had to relocate, and I lost my elder brother
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because he was the one who held me accountable.
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Sadly, my teenage years, things happened, broken family.
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I was very close to my uncle, and he died of cancer in about, I believe,
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And I started doing things I shouldn't have done.
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You know, teenage, you go into drinking and, you know, things that we're not proud of.
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But I had a huge emptiness in my heart because I've always suffered with two things in my life.
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If you actually break it down, symptoms of pride.
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But nonetheless, I suffered from low self-esteem and body dysmorphia,
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which is still two demons that I have to slay to this day.
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And because I had this low self-esteem and really, really just body shamed myself, I felt more depressed.
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So I thought the solution would be bodybuilding.
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Why? Because my older brother started bodybuilding.
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And if you know about bodybuilding, you probably have heard of Sergio Olivia.
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He's got a son as well right now that competes.
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He was known for one of the greatest poses of all time.
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yeah if you go to images sergio olivia his forearms he does just pose the one the fourth
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picture that one right there jeez look at that you should see a son that's crazy makes his father
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look like you can you pull up his son's picture as well his son is benny you won't even believe
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it look at his son that's look at that that's a son to the right oh my goodness oh my damn wow
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yeah yeah it's crazy so chicago so i said maybe you know what let me try bodybuilding now another
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thing is one of the biggest influences on my life wasn't a religious figure was bruce lee
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i still love bruce lee i just can't get over this guy and when i hear people saying oh he was an
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actor it's us that gets me angry what are you talking about man in the street fight will gouge
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your eyes out you know the myth of bruce lee so i thought in my very sick mind maybe i can get
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into kickboxing and bodybuilding and become the first assurian movie star talking too much
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bruce lee did it arnold schwarzenegger i'm getting bored by this like can we just get to
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oh wow his origin story is like 24 minutes okay i'm just gonna skip ahead
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life so clearly the jesus of history is not okay let's life
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all right john let's start from here now remember what allah is it said about allah he's the truth
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And then the hour is coming where he will raise the dead.
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For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life,
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even so the Son gives life to whom he is pleased to give it.
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the literal translation is an hour is coming if you read it it's an hour because niv is more of
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a paraphrase so some bibles do not translate literally because in translating literally you
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lose meaning so they have to paraphrase so this is a paraphrase in fact we as syrians can relate
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if i say if you translate english and say what the hell are you talking about yeah right yeah
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that's how it is with languages so sometimes you can't translate literally you got to translate
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meaning but literally it says very truly i tell you an hour is coming and has now come when the
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dead will hear the voice of the son of god not allah the son of god and those who hear will live
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now 28 29 says something amazing because the cron says the hour is coming have no doubt about it well
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allah will raise them from their graves but who does that according to our bible do not be amazed
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that this for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice and come out
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whose voice the son of god so if i were to compare what jesus says of himself with what was said
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about allah clearly jesus claimed to be god because the things jesus says is ascribed to
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the islamic deity not to a prophet so prophet cannot speak this way if islam is true so what
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do they tell you your bible's corrupt another passage john you brought it up john 14 6 right
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we read that i'm sorry notice there he says i am the way and the truth on the names of allah and
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the life so clearly the jesus of history is not asa he did not announce coming muhammad so from
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a christian perspective as offensive as it may be facts are facts if we all believe the same thing
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we'd be the same religion according to the new testament it's going to hurt people muhammad is
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an antichrist that's the new testament teaching because what is the criteria for did he just say
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what i thought he said wow okay for an antichrist first john chapter 2 22 to 23 tells you who's the
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antichrist he who denies the father and the son islam says allah is not a father and jesus is
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definitely not his son in fact in chapter 9 of the quran verse 30 you know what it says and the jews
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say uzair is the son of allah to this day scholars are baffled who is this uzair and what jews said
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it now some translations will tell you that uzair is azra the prophet but the context is the call
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to jihad a lot of people don't know that one of the last chapters before muhammad died now again
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we're basing this on um so i just want to point this out right like a lot of the um islamic
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terrorists will try to claim that jihad is just like internal struggle and no jihad is just like
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an internal personal struggle um no jihad is literally a call for um islamic terrorism it's
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a call for engaging in a holy war for Allah um and jihad is literally mentioned in the Quran so
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I'm glad that he's actually bringing um bringing this part up and talking about this part here
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because a lot of the radical Islamists don't want non-Muslims to know that the Quran itself
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specifically talks about jihad, which is waging a holy war. And, you know, that's why you see
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all these Islamic terrorist groups, you know, yelling Allahu Akbar before they
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blow themselves up or before they, you know, cut the heads off of infidels.
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on the muslim sources there are people who question the muslim sources they say well
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we yeah because muslims they're not in not in muslim countries they can't but you'll have
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muslim academics will tell you yeah these are later traditions they're embellished and not
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all muslims believe in what they call the hadith now the largest group of muslims identify sunni
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in fact you had two of them debating when they were here they would be sunni muslims one of them
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was a salafi so though they are sunni or yeah jake uh what was his name the other guy jake
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daniel hakikachu and jake rang katala yeah jake i don't know if it's short for jacob now he's a
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salafi there are differences among them and though they belong and again i'm not saying these
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differences prove islam is false because we got differences among christians right i mean but
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fair is fair islam is not monolithic neither is christianity right there are flavors of christianity
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But point being, the largest group of Muslims would identify as Sunni, but in that Sunni branch, you have people called Salafis.
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They have a view of Allah that the other Sunnis do not share.
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Though it's the largest sect, they would follow what they call the Hadith or the Sunnah.
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In fact, if you come from Iran, it's a Shia majority, right?
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they reject it, they go we don't follow Bukhari
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and then there are a group of Muslims who only follow
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you have a variety, so if I'm dealing with a Muslim
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because you debate Muslims, well I don't accept the Hadith
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I don't care what Bukhari says, I don't care what Muslim says
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So I have to now stick with the Quran and show them why there are holes in the narrative.
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And the point I'm getting at is that in Islamic theology, specifically Sunni,
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there are certain attributes, names of Allah, that no creature can ascribe to themselves.
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Some of the names I just showed you, but Jesus ascribed to himself.
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In chapter 9 of the Quran, according to the Sunni tradition,
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this is one of the last chapters Muhammad gave before he died.
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And in his final marching orders, if you want to look at it, chapter 9,
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This is, again, according to the Sunni narrative.
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Now, if you accept the Sunni narrative, then this is one of the last service.
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But if you are one of those Muslims who say,
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well, then you have a hard time because you can't situate the Quran.
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there are two periods in the compilation of the Quran.
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There's what's called the Meccan period and the Medinan period, Mecki, Medani.
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Again, based on the Islamic narrative, for the first 13 years Muhammad preached in Mecca,
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the tone of those chapters that are attributed to that period, very different.
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Oh yeah, I know exactly what he's going to say here.
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So basically these two periods, the first 13 years, you know, it was much more peaceful.
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And I think, you know, Muhammad was only able to convert, I don't know, like 100 people or something to Islam. And then after the 13 years, they decided to like, he decided to make it more violent, I guess, and focus more on conquest and raiding and whatever.
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And then as soon as he did that, that's when more people started converting to Islam.
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To you be your religion, to me my religion, because he's outnumbered.
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There's what's called the Meccan period and the Medinan period, Mecki, Medani.
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Again, based on the Islamic narrative, for the first 13 years, Muhammad preached in Mecca.
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The tone of those chapters that are attributed to that period, very different.
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To you be your religion, to me my religion, because he's outnumbered.
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And if he does try to make an attack, they'll squash him.
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So when you read those chapters from that period,
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if we take the traditional Sunday narrative, very tolerant.
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Okay, hey, you don't believe my religion? That's fine.
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says it, you know, to you, your religion, to me, my religion
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but they quote in the context when they're outnumbered
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now he's amassed a large number of soldiers according to the narrative right one of the
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greatest scholars in my opinion questioning the narrative you had him he debated robert spencer
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if you want what i consider to be one of the most knowledgeable christians on the historical
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muhammad as well as political islam you won't get any better than robert spencer
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so if you ever wanted to um if you guys don't follow robert spencer on x you definitely need
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to to do that let me find um his profile for you this guy is like he calls it out for what it is
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and um once in a while he'll like retweet one of my posts or he'll like put a comment under one of
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my posts and he's always been like yeah i agree with her like she knows what she's talking about
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Um, so yeah, let me find Robert Spencer's profile here. Let me search it up here.
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And what I'll do is I'll find some videos by Robert Spencer because Robert Spencer,
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he focuses more, um, on the like Islamic terrorism side of things. So here's his profile on X. If
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you don't follow him. Robert Spencer, Jihad Watch, 32 books, the history of jihad, the critical
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Quran, Muhammad, a critical biography, the Palestinian delusion, holy hell. And he's got a
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website called jihadwatch.org. So you definitely want to make sure that you're following him.
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And I'm going to make sure to find some videos or interviews with him, because, you know, his focus
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is going to be more on the political um side of things right interesting because he's got a he's
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got a lot he gets a lot of hate and he's got a lot of uh controversy behind him i mean when i
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announced that i'm bringing him they were i mean let's be honest anyone who speaks out against
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islamic radicalism and terrorism has controversy i'm technically a controversial figure as well
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so i mean that's that's nothing new at this point curious about bringing robert robert spencer yeah
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he's my estimation you know how people say this guy's the best and that's an ego thing may god
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crush our pride but my estimation i don't think there's someone more knowledgeable in political
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islam and historical muhammad than robert spencer from a christian perspective interesting he would
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be part of your if you ever get an a-team he'd be part of it now i mention him only because
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he would question these sources but if you're a sunni because now my audience is now the sunni
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muslim like whoever it is if it's daniel according to the tradition chapter nine one of the final
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marching orders he's amassed a large number of soldiers now he's telling them go and expand islam
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it's no longer defend yourself it's now go and expand islam politically economically socially
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that's the context of chapter 9 28 to 33 but now notice
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muhammad has to give them a pretext to attack okay why are we attacking these people
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going to see it doesn't say because they threatened you this is the sorry someone said it's not roger
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spencer um robert spencer here here is here's his profile again um so just look robert spencer
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his x hashtag is jihad watch rs so there you go that's where you can find uh robert spencer
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the islamic narrative it's because they believe differently from you writer black and white you're
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going to see it so they don't think i'm lying and if they want to get the commentators ibn kathir
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we're going to have a field day brother they can't tell me it doesn't mean this wait wait
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what did ibn kathir or qurtubi say right but here chapter 9 28 to 33 we're going to read it oh you
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will believe now this translation says polytheist but the term mushrikun mushrikeen it's much more
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broad than simply a polytheist the term comes from shirk what is shirk according to the quran
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shirk is the one sin allah will never forgive but what is that when you claim there are multiple
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divinities or allah shares his glory or attributes or sovereignty with a creature or god as a son
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you fall under that category so according to islam all of you are shirkers you're a mushrik
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whether you like or not why because if they ask you do you believe jesus is god's son
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mushrik you believe jesus god's son mushrik you believe he's lord
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mushrik now the crown says to fight you and to the victor goes the spoils or you pay what's
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called jizya we're going to get there so all you believe or have believed indeed the polytheists
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are unclean so let them not approach a masjid now without the traditions you have no idea where this
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is it's a tradition that tells you this is the kaaba in mecca but if you just went with this
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you'll have no idea where this is what the heck is masjid but this this means mecca the kaaba
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don't let them approach after this their final year what year see without the islamic narrative
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you don't even know what year this is this is two years before the death of muhammad right
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And if you fear poverty, now why is it saying fear poverty?
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The Islamic narrative says that they would make pilgrimages,
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to this day the Muslims do it, to circumambulate the Kaaba seven times,
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run between the two hills, safan marwa seven times,
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throw seven stones at Satan, which they claim was instituted by Abraham,
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So when the people would come, they'd barter.
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So it's saying, well, if you fear by banishing them,
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if you fear by banishing them, you're going to lose money.
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Allah will enrich you from his bounty if he wills.
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We say inshallah, but here it's, you know, if he wills.
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By having you fight the infidels and taking jizya from them.
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fight those who attacked you fight those who want to take your land no no fight those who do not
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believe in Allah or in the last day well I don't believe in the Allah of Islam now I know people
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say well it's just the name that's not my debate I have no problem using the term Allah the Allah
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of the Quran is not the God of the Bible so different gods absolutely okay but now you have
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to qualify that do you think the average Muslim even knows the differences probably not absolutely
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not they don't they're told that this god is a god of abraham they're told jesus is a mighty
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messenger so you have to distinguish between what the sources say and the person because if i
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interview an average christian how many of them know what the trinity is i mean the one thing that
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i can say is that um iranians and occupied iran are very familiar with the quran because they
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are forced to study it, regardless of whether or not they're Muslim, because Iran is occupied by
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an Islamic dictatorship. And so the one thing that's happened, you know, the only thing that
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the Islamic Republic has accomplished in the last 47 years is turning off the vast majority of
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Iranians from Islam. So prior to 1979, a lot of Iranians were, you know, like secular Muslims,
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and, you know, they just, you know, lived their normal lives, and was very Western and progressive.
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And, you know, you know, they said they were Muslim, but never really, you know, really read
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the Quran or anything. But since the Islamic dictatorship took over, and they basically
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forced everyone to study and read the Quran. Yeah, I would say like right now, probably less than,
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I would say at most, maybe 20% of Iranians are actually identifying as Muslim. And a lot of
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that has to do with the fact that Iranians were forced to study the Quran, and they just
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didn't like what it had to say and you know that's on top of of course um living in in islamic
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dictatorship and being governed by um sharia law how many know that jesus is the god man that you
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must believe he's got a man if i ask christians is jesus a man in heaven or a spirit i've done
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that they'll say he's a spirit no he's not the bible says he's a glorified man in heaven with a
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glorified physical body of flesh and he's going to come back in the flesh so how many christians
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know that they're supposed to believe that you'd be surprised ask christian say hey i understand
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yeah so here if you don't have the same idea of allah they do that's pretext to fight you and
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sam not to go when you say fight is that fight to kill no it's uh ufc okay i want i want to make
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that clear that you're saying fight fight should be they're trying to kill you ufc championship
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belt what's wrong with you okay my bad so we're taking a syrian in you bro yeah okay
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because I want to show the audience who don't know Islam
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the last day in Islam means if you pass the test
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chapter 7, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 9, 9, 10
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you'll spend all eternity deflowering them but you won't harm them and they'll return when i say
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kran kran says you will have sex with them but the hadith go graphic you will be deflowering them
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but you won't hurt them they'll return virgin again so this is the pleasures of paradise and
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you're going to have wine and you're going to have milk and you're going to have you know meat and
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young bull basically um oh my gosh i think he was about to say young boys that's insane basically
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everything that is banned right now is like permissible and and provided um in heaven but
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yeah like it is kind of messed up that um they talk about you know in in the Quran it talks
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about having sex with virgins and the virgins never lose their virginity it's just it's very
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very weird i'm not gonna lie i said kran kran says you will have sex with them but the hadith
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go graphic you will be deflowering them but you won't hurt them they'll return virgin again so
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this is the pleasures of paradise and you're gonna have wine and you're gonna have milk and you're
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gonna by the way this is just for the men um muslim women don't get 72 virgin men muslim women
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just continue being the wives of their husbands in in heaven along with the 72 other virgins
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yeah you're gonna have you know meat and young boys serving you youths of perpetual freshness
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now why the hell do i need a young boy in paradise to serve me well things to make you go but that's
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the last day oh you brought it up huh see full-breasted companions of equal age yeah so
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that means you don't need um breast implants in paradise it's you're good free of charge yeah
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perfect it's impressive you see why they they love us don't you yeah that's impressive when we come
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here uh we're in go back to 30 up to 30. so now why should you fight them i'm sorry 29 fight those
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who do not believe in allah or in the last day who do not consider unlawful what all in his
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messenger have made unlawful so if you don't accept muhammad's restrictions like don't eat
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pig meat rounds to fight you am i making it up it's right there why do you fight them who do not
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consider unlawful what allah and his messenger have made unlawful so what you do not forbid that
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the scripture, meaning even if they're Jews and Christians.
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those who are in the field will know. One of the titles
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god that gave the koran gave the scriptures to the jews and christians because it says he's the god
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of abraham right and it says this is a religion of abraham so so part of the reason that you're
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seeing a lot of these radical islamists who immigrate to western countries and then um
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they want to like bring sharia law with them and impose um like islamic doctrine and they
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get offended when others you know don't follow sharia law is basically because of this like they
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they have this ingrained belief that it is their religious duty to promote sharia law
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and convert everyone to like islam like i'm speaking about the radicals right so even if
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you're a jew christian but you deny muhammad or allah said to the muslims fight them until they
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pay jizya why willingly while they are humbled as a sign of your humiliation that's how allah
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will enrich you thank the lord there's really no islamic state that enforces this praise the
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lord jesus christ right um that's actually not true um you have the islamic republic occupying
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Iran, which enforces this. You also have Qatar that enforces this by spreading their jihadi
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ideology. And actually, we spoke about this yesterday, if you were watching my live streams
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about Qatar, I did a whole live stream about how Qatar is promoting their Islamist ideology
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in the West through universities and through paying journalists and lobbyists and pundits
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as well. So I don't agree with what he's saying here. There are certainly states that enforce
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this 100%. Right. I mean, if you ask me, is there an Islamic state? No, there isn't.
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What do you mean there's no Islamic state? The Islamic Republic occupying Iran.
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oh my gosh this is okay i don't agree with this part here countries more islamic than others yes
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but there is no truly islamic state right that implements what the kron and the sharia puts
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but you understand uh the islamic republic occupying iran literally implements like you
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want you want Sharia law. That's the the Islamic Republic occupying Iran. So that's a pretty
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ignorant take. But again, we have to remember at the beginning of the podcast, he did say that he
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has, you know, he grew up in Chicago from the age of two. And he himself admitted he does not know
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a lot about the Middle East. So while he may be well versed in religious doctrine, and he might
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be well versed in, you know, debating religion and all that stuff. It's pretty obvious that when
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it comes to the Middle East and Middle Eastern politics, he does not know a lot about that. And,
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know he he admitted that so um i mean i i can't agree or disagree with what he's saying about
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religion because again like i'm not a theologist i just you know i know what i know based on um
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geopolitics and islamic terrorism and you know my experience with the islamic republic occupying
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iran um but his statement right now that that there are no islamic states it's not true at all
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there are numerous islamic states and this is how islam expanded go find people where they're at
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invite them to islam and if they accept they're safe if not take the jizya from them and if not
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kill them and to the victor goes the spoils another thing that's related to christ why then
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should you fight jews and christians verse 30 the jews say ezra is the son of allah but it's not
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So where does this come from? Well, the Muslims
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say, well, there was a particular group at a particular
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And the Christians say, the Messiah is the son of Allah.
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If I ask you guys, do you believe Messiah is the son of Allah?
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Imitating the sayings of those who disbelieved before.
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How do you think Allah's going to destroy you?
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Who do you think he's going to use to destroy you?
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This is what Islam, this is Muhammad's final marching orders.
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Whether you like it or not, if they become predominant majority,
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and if they're zealous, now thank God most Muslims are not,
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As I was trying, I said, I think we said off there, in the 90s, I realized, honestly,
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when I would have a conversation, verses would pop in my head.
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So it's not I trained for it, and I don't want people to be impressed by it.
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I got a lot of shoes that I pray God will show me mercy on the day of judgment.
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But I just realized maybe it's God's way of gifting me.
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if i go back i probably read it two or three times two or three times i don't really read
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it all the way through like now it's not just like you know i'll go through it you know maybe
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read a psalm here or there or if i'm researching yeah it's it's i i guess like when they drop
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really i was dropped as a child when i was one in my head so maybe i triggered something i don't
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know maybe that's how god does it right are you are you a massive because when when i sat down
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with charlie kirk and and we would talk to him off camera he would say he studies three hours
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every day no matter what he reads and studies three hours every day yeah do you have a ritual
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of studying a lot every day do you read a lot every day not that way what i do is i'm always on
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my blog writing posts for people if not doing live streams so i'm not studying i'm writing to
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equip people with articles so they can use it in battle because i want to equip people so because
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look but that's basically like studying right because if you're writing articles you're doing
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research you're going back you're figuring things out you're thinking about it so i mean that in
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and of itself is a form of of studying if the lord carries i'm going to die so at six and a half
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this nine-year-old comes to you at that time at that time what's your relationship with your dad
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at six and a half my dad walked uh walked away when i was probably seven shortly right after that
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so it's right around that time that this is happening to you got it okay so that had a
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massive impact on you because huge so so is that is that a moment for you where your biological
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father walked out but your you know spiritual father's going to be with you forever did you
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did that give you that peace as a young man raymond was young boy yeah raymond is pretty much
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my dad even though he was nine and his grandmother my mother was a wonderful woman she left a wonderful
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legacy but she wasn't educated in scripture so but his grandmother was my spiritual mother
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raymond's raymond's yeah because his mother died when he was young so his maternal grandmother
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raised him and his brother how much time did you spend with her i think from six and a half to ten
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how often like every day every day we'd go i'd hang out with him every day we'd go to the house
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she would teach us prayers she would or he would she would she in fact because of her impact i
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still remember now i know it's part of the liturgy of the assyrian church but i didn't know that back
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and she would teach she taught me this and it's for some reason those prayers but she taught me
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that she also taught me the ave maria but in a different way from where you know like uh
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bucelli says it she taught it this way now guys i'm not a singer and i'm not going to give up my
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day job but so she taught it this way so i remember that for some reason it stayed in my mind right
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she was a wonderful six and a half years old was raymond's grandmother friends with your mother
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no they didn't know each other no they were they were in the neighborhood so you know you know how
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you meet people high and by you know but yeah it wasn't like you know oh we're cousin no just he
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was taught to go soul winning so when he won me he took me to his grandmother and she teaches
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prayers and what what was the denomination she was catholic his uncle on his mother's side became
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baptist so later on at 18 years old when that's a security guard the guy you're working with at
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the valley at this bubs city city yeah when you work there and he introduced you to the nation
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of islam and you know uh farrakhan and all these guys uh at that time would you say oh my gosh louis
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farrakhan is a terrible person um he supported the islamic republic occupying iran and i think at one
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point he even went to occupied iran and you know even though the guys um like an american he was
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in occupied iran and he was like you know yelling death to america death to israel um in farsi which
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is such a disgrace right so yeah this whole like nation of islam i don't know man it's like super
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super sketchy louis farrakhan um big grifter and he was a big supporter of islamic terrorists um
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i'm kind of glad he's dead now i think i think he's dead i'm glad he's dead i hope he's rotting
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in hell a pre-meeting kim you'd consider yourself a christian or your last teenager kind of going
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through yeah i was i had pretty much turned my back when you left at 10 years old it was about
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13 13 when he 10 he relook but yeah it was i think he was 10 he moved and i started slipping
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but around 13 i was just gone yeah so 13 to 18 there's nothing no no church no mentor no father
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figure no nothing yeah did you go to college are you a good student in school what are you doing
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in school uh i was such a good student i got that on out of high school third year yeah in high
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school yeah and this is chicago yep then i got a gd and never been to college never been to
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saint mary never been to university what was your you know what what class came easy to you are you
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a math guy are you an english guy you history guy are you i i liked history but not in school i just
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hated being in school because of my body dysmorphia and low self-esteem i couldn't be around crowds
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were you in gangs were you a troublemaker were you i was with the gangs but i wasn't the tough guy i
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mean yeah i hung out with like the assyrian kings you know in chicago yeah okay syrian kings yeah
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so 18 years old you meet this guy did you ever convert and become a muslim or no in my heart i
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believe muhammad was a prophet but it's not good enough because if you go with sunni islamic
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tradition you have to take the shahada in front of at least two witnesses but the guy who was
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talking about islam he didn't take me to a mosque he just was talking and then i started my curiosity
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is such that when i get into something i have to study it so if i backtrack like when i like
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bruce lee i add up every book on bruce lee and i would devour hours into bruce lee i had to know
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this guy inside and out when it came to bodybuilding i would devour every bodybuilding
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magazine and there was arnold schwarzenegger's encyclopedia you know something about me when
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i'm into something i eat it up and nothing else matters it's like i'm just focused on this the
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world can go to hell i mean god forbid but you know i'm not i'm and so whatever i focus on
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becomes the entire center of my life everything i do revolves around that so during this time
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i'm thinking i'm really i've deceived myself i'm gonna make it to hollywood the lord had a sense
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of your 18 when i was bodybuilding my goal was that i'm going to get into hollywood like these
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guys that bruce lee did martial arts i'm going to do it somehow i'm going to do it somehow so are
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you watching jean-claude van damme are you watching all these movies are you watching i would watch
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but they never compared to bruce i would watch bruce lee you know who's a big bruce lee guy
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dana white yes you go to his gym in his office bruce lee quotes everywhere he's all right when
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you walk into his office there's a bruce lee quote on the wall in his office like uh dana's a bruce
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lee fanatic so he does think he's a real dude he's not a fake huh no no no no he's based on the way
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i had when i was with him it was a lot of respect for him his quotes are all over his gym everywhere
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uh as you could okay so 18 years old now is he discipling you is this guy did he bring you
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anywhere did you meet somebody did someone did you meet any of the big names nope on the nation
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of islam nothing it's all independent identity i just went searching went to bookstores and
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18 years old there's no internet there is internet but there's not the google and all
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that stuff because you you know your age where you're at i don't remember using internet that
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time either it was more the aol chat or whatever yeah the slow one yeah that's right zero and
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yeah the dial-up internet does anyone remember did anyone ever have those um like aol
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compact discs or floppy disks and um you would put in a code and you would get like i don't know
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10 hours of free dial-up a month or something um and then like they would hand those out so much
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i remember i had like so many of those and that's what i used for the longest time
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to go on the internet with those like those aol discs
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oh my gosh yeah the dial-up internet back in the day geez you know what the stuff that we went
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through um and like young people these days have no idea oh yeah netscape um guys napster
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do you remember napster and then lime wire um guys icq come on the ogs the ogs like we used icq
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before um aol messenger oh my gosh so random all right i just i had to put that in there because
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this kind of uh this brought me back a little bit and all of that yeah yeah so okay so at this time
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you're going through it and then you read the quran and you go through your phase what are you
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doing occupation wise what are you doing to make money so just a comment here um yeah gandalf um
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when the cell phones came the speakers like the speakers could tell when your cell phone was going
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to to ring because you would hear like that staticky noise and then you know someone was like
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oh yeah the icq oh i remember that money at that time i was working security and sometimes i'd work
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as a tow truck guy just uh by time to get into i'm serious i was really i really thought i was
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delusional all right but how did i find uh how did i research i just go to bookstore there was
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a muslim bookstore in chicago north side divan there's actually two one of them is still there
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if the people are watching they'll know what i'm talking about it's by divan california it's called
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but in the 90s it was not at that same spot so i'd go buy muslim books and i'd go now we still
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have barnes and ovals but at that time we also had borders you guys remember borders yeah i love
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borders more than barnes and novels but i don't know man it's just i don't know i just liked it
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i uh maybe the colors who knows but i would go there and try to get books and then muslim books
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for bookstores obviously but what really did it for me is i would buy vhs tape debates
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we're living in a time of the vcr vhs i know some people say what is that right i think it's like
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the way of the dodo bird beta max and you know we had vhs so they would sell muslim christian
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debates now all those debates are online on youtube but that time we didn't have youtube
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so i bought them and and i'll tell you how i got into apologetics because that was that's wild
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imagine he would buy vhs tapes of like muslim debates of course everything is available on
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YouTube now, like he said, but that's just crazy. Like I never, I never thought about that, but
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yeah, I guess, you know, we all just sort of forget how, how blessed we are to live in
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an age right now where information is readily available to us right at our fingertips, right?
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But wow, like back in the nineties, he would go out and buy VHS tapes. That's some,
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that's some dedication right there that was because of some muslim guy who challenged me but
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when i watched the debates i'm designed in a weird way i learned more from attacks on the faith than
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i learned from defending the faith because it forces me to think so i was watching the muslim
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slaughtering the christians and it got me to think how do i answer this guy so that put a fire in me
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to find answers now i was never discipled i didn't have a pastor i didn't have a priest i didn't i
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had to just rely on god's spirit to guide me to the right sources find the right let's say authors
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or listen to the right christians but when it came to christian muslim debates the christians
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were getting slaughtered i cannot tell you of any christian that i think won a debate decisively in
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the 90s there were some close but for some reason the muslims were slaughtering the christians what
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was their angle what angle did they take that christians didn't have a way to defend themselves
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Even when it came to Christian topics, the Christians were doing bad.
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The late Dr. Gleason L. Archer, who was Professor Emeritus of, now it's closed.
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But in Deerfield, Illinois, you had Trinity Evangelical Divinity Seminary.
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but when it came to debate he was getting slaughtered and by neophyte muslims who
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don't know biblical languages and on topics you think it would be easy for him he was just getting
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slaughtered you'll find on youtube leeson archer muslim debates disappointing trinity getting
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slaughtered topics that we should win it's one thing when you're debating a muslim topic you're
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not familiar with and you know you have the advantage you're a muslim but when it comes to
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your own topics and you are and he is brilliant but he's not a debater so you'll see some of the
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debates right there. Gleason Archer versus Jamal Baravi, the authenticity of the Quran.
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I mean, it was heartbreaking because I'm not a scholar. I'm just a, you know, teenager. And
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these scholars, you know, is there a response? So to tell you how I got into this, so see how God
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works. When I finally did embrace Christ and realized that Muhammad was deceived and antichrist,
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1 John 2, 22, 23, I had a friend who used to teach me out of box because I used to teach him
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on a body boat. I don't want to mention his name.
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Because remember, I'm going to get into Hollywood, brother.
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so he started not going to the jimma prayers friday prayers and his community college right
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college so the muslims started noticing so they asked him what's going on he goes well you know
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i'm starting to get into christianity who's the guy who's been influencing you well i'm a neophyte
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i'm green i don't know much about i'm just learning so i met a couple of his friends
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they brought in a big gun i don't want to mention his i don't want to give him publicity
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you know it's from chicago he was a real estate guy from south is it south asia we'll leave it
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at that he walked in the church that i was in was a korean church he had like a folder you know
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binder i don't know what they call it but you know we don't have it anymore but he came in
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he opened it up you know where they have those rings paper yeah it was ready man he had a combat
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kit it's called the con later on i realized they call it the combat kit in fact that was made
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famous by another muslim debater named ahmad didat ahmad didat who since deceased in 2005
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he became famous when i mean i kind of have one of those two like here's my
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folder it's even got a zipper guys it's got a zipper
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with this and then i got like i got paper in it and like rings and stuff so
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i guess i guess i have my own comeback kit too there you go
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it's when he debated jimmy swagger as the bible god's word and from the muslim perspective
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swagger got destroyed that made him international he's from south africa if you look at it from a
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logical perspective he didn't win but debates are not one on substance it's one on rhetoric
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personality and flesh and he's very charismatic he's another guy carriage it's so true debates
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are not one on facts they're one on like he said personality um charisma and it's the same thing
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Same thing with politics as well. That's why a lot of politicians, you know, very charismatic,
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but they're completely brain dead. And that's why, you know, a lot of the political debates
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are very frustrating because you just have a bunch of low IQ people. And, you know,
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as someone who was in politics for 10 years, I can say with 100% certainty that 95% of
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of the people who are in politics are brain dead idiots and they basically just fail upward because
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they rely on their charisma more so than than on their substance or on their integrity or you know
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doing or saying the right thing they care more about votes and so they'll say and do anything
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um to get people's votes jimmy swagger did but he won if you look at just the facts swaggered won
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but the rhetoric and the confidence of didat he was a very huge fellow right just impressed and
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bedazzled the muslims he was the biggest muslim debater at that time the second biggest is jamal
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bari who debated gleason archer but coming back to this guy you'll find it here didat ahmed didat
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jimmy swagger see these are some of the historic debates that are setting the ground for future
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apologists some of the debates hey guys vincent olshana here i recently released a new shirt
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from my faith baseline faith over fear oh my gosh what is this like some random commercial now
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in the middle of the okay let's go back to the podcast here that was random
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okay oh no nothing i have no idea brother i'm just i just came into faith give me a break no
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he came this is one other reason people say why are you so aggressive you know you're very like
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sometimes you can be very nasty and because i think what he did to me impacted me because he
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was very nasty to me and he bullied me and there's something about me that triggers me when i feel i'm
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bullied right that's it yep ahmadida yeah so when you feel you're bullied uh yeah i i've been bullied
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but sometimes i've been the bully because to my shame but when i get challenged something kicks
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sin it's not like i want to be this way and i go into like i got to take you out now i'm not a
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fighter physically so how do i do it i do it verbally because the way he approached me now
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how do you approach me maybe in a nice manner things may have been different he was nasty
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showed me no compassion wanted to humiliate me and he did is this recorded no he did he humiliated
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me i had no idea about the bible because he would give me verses and then the trinity well
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how can jeez be god and i was destroyed disgraced and i was discouraged how old you at the time
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i was close to i think i was already in my 20s it's in the 90s and my buddy was there almost
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gave his name see this is why i tend to avoid um you know debates when it comes to religion
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because ultimately people are going to have their own religious belief. And I respect freedom of
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religion. I mean, I might not agree with someone's religion, but, you know, to each their own. I mean,
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you believe whatever you want to believe. My issue is when someone starts using their religion
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to justify oppressing others. That's where I take issue with it, right? And so that's where
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my focus on Islamic terrorism comes in, where you have these Islamic radicals who are going around
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murdering infidels in the name of Allah, and then because they believe that their religion
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tells them to do so um so yeah like this is why like i never really watch religious debates or
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things like that because you can have two people and they can just argue ad nauseam and no one
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ever really feels like they win because ultimately like your your religion is is based on your
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belief and so you're gonna you know you're gonna believe that one thing no matter what
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um my focus is more on the practical side but you know again a lot of you wanted to you know
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see something a little bit more focused on on the religion side of things so that's why i'm
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i'm playing uh this podcast by patrick bet david but um yeah i mean it's it's very interesting
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it's really interesting but like when he's talking about how like you know he would have
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all these religious debates and he felt bullied i'm like i'm thinking like why would you even
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debate anyway i mean you know it's it's not like a scientific debate where there's you know one
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answer or not and i mean um ultimately people are gonna have their own belief and you can't debate
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your way out of it you know what i mean but anyways like again this is why like my focus
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is more on the practical right his name i don't want to give his name lord help me not to mention
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i almost came out he was there to witness it but he didn't like lose his faith in christianity so
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i remember going at night and i started praying and this was my deal with god i said god if you
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give me answers to these questions i swear to you i will commit my life to never allowing another
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christian to be humiliated ever again by a muslim and that's at the set of emotion so when you made
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that prayer what happens next what is given to you the lord is just directing my steps here read this
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read that study this and so you know how the debate with amadi didad how many people are
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wrong while this is taking no i didn't debate that i debated someone who was in i was an admirer of
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him so you debated the realtor that used the manual that he created to the beach that was
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influenced by him now he has his own but he had his manual that was influenced by the doc oh i got
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it so it's not but he's the trendset he's the one i got it right he sells his own but this guy had
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his folder with all is this realtor guy still preaching or no is he still out there doing this
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thing or no the last time i saw him glory to god vindication i'll just tell you a little ego because
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you know the assurance we got to win right uh when i came back a couple years later he ran between
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his tail between his legs and i felt vindicated that was the last time so i don't know if he's
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alive or dead so that was in your 20s that's a long time so that's in the 90s and he was already
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maybe in his 40s so i don't know got it but the lord gave me vindication once you asked the lord
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you prayed for that what what who came into your life no one person it was still the spirit guiding
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me that's why i was saying i would go to stores and i've met few christian authors and lecturers
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but it's all on vhs but it wasn't how they shaped me when it comes to defending defending muslims
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i learned a lot from two individuals in particular but their approach was good but it wasn't like
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devastating the two names that really influenced me when it came to refuting islam and they're
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actually online for the website i write for answering islam.info john gilchrist he wrote
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a series of booklets and books because he was also in south africa he was the response to the
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dot so if you go to answering islam.info i'll walk you through it answering us all right yep
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now if you look at individual authors to if you go down to the red right there individual authors
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you're going to see john gilchrist it's on yep that man right there he wrote a series of books
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and booklets responding to didad i learned a lot from him but his arguments were not devastating
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So he, if you want to say, I would say he's an influence.
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Another man that really influenced me, because he taught me how to think logically,
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is even here, it's just in the website, if you go to William Campbell,
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William Campbell is right there to your left, all the way to your left, Campbell,
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He wrote a book, The Quran and the Bible, Light of History and Science.
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If you click on that, phenomenal book, phenomenal book.
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because he was writing a response to a man named Maurice Bouquet.
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He was the physician for the king of Saudi Arabia.
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He wrote a book in 1975, I believe, The Bible, the Quran, and Science.
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whereas the Bible is full of scientific errors, the Quran has none.
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That book was being shoved down the throats of Christians.
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King of Sutter, and he found no mistakes in the Quran.
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So this guy took him to the, you know, took him to school.
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That book right there, I can say, I probably read that book maybe 20 times.
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Because he introduced, there's a chapter talking about deductive reasoning, right?
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And, you know, how to think logically and how to avoid the etymological fallacy or how to avoid chronological fallacy, where you read a later meaning of a word into an earlier period of time.
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So if a word means X now, that doesn't mean it had the same meaning 300 years ago.
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So you cannot apply modern definitions to words in an earlier context.
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You have to see how those words were used at that time.
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Because the Muslims were like, yeah, well, the Arabic means this.
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100 years ago, now you put it in one of the entries,
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So you can't tell me because the Arabic means this now,
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it meant that at the time when the Quran is written.
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Now the only problem is this guy debated Zakir Naik
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and sadly, he got slaughtered by Zachary Knight,
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if you want the most effective takedown of anything,
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you got to know people's strengths and weaknesses,
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and you got to then put them in their areas of strength,
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If you're a phenomenal writer, not a good speaker,
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you do the writing and if you're specialized let's say in the trinity you only talk about
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the trinity he specializes in destroying let's say hinduism he you don't deal with anti-trinity
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that's not your field stay in refuting hinduism you're great at islam you don't deal with joe's
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witnesses you suck in that here's a guy that's how you got to do it you got to know people and
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there's a saying like robert spencer you won't find anyone better in political jihad and historical
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muhammad you put him there he's going to shine no one's going to touch him so you got to know
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the person and put them in their area of expertise so like me i don't know much about
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guys i made a note here um to remind myself i'm going to find some videos by robert spencer and
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i will play those during my regular uh live streams which you know i do at 12 noon eastern
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um and i'll definitely uh play some good ones from him uh which focus on political jihad which
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is of course the the main topic of this youtube channel but science i don't know much about
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atheism the most stupidest thing i can do is debate an atheist because if it's about the
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glory of christ i don't want to go embarrass myself and destroy faith so let me bring those
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lions christians who spend their time eating up atheists so that's how you have to strategize
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so campbell was a great writer not a great speaker he got destroyed by zachari this is the debate
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yep that's a clip from the so who have you debated that's a uh high level scholar known muslim
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with Jabrali. I think that's the only one credible.
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In fact, one thing, though, I have to share, because I know how to bring down Islam, you have to know what to debate.
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This is the problem with many Christians who set up debates.
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If you want to see Islam destroyed, you have to know what to debate.
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And when you propose these debates, they'll try to make 10,000 excuses not to debate them because they'll know it's the end of the session.
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the one thing i always start with before i debate a muslim what did muhammad say about the bible
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it's called the islamic dilemma islamic dilemma we put a muslim in a dilemma what's the dilemma
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well just like my new testament confirms the old testament so as christians we can't attack the
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old testament we're stuck with it so when they tell me what about these wars in the old testament
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i can't say ah jesus told me the old testament's god's word so i got to join with the jews in
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defending the old testament right sometimes it's hard but if i believe jesus and i believe in his
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lordship he told me the old testament is god's word it's not the vedas i'm stuck you know we
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love you lord and you didn't make it too easy right we have to deal with all these wipe everything
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that brings muhammad put them in a similar situation all throughout the quran muhammad
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said one of the proofs of his prophethood is that my quran confirms your scriptures
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It agrees with them. No, it doesn't. My Bible contradicts your Quran. That means the Quran is
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false. But see, the Muslims see that and say, oh, you must have changed the Bible. But the Quran
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never says it's been changed. They try to take a verse here and there out of context. And once you
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read the context, it'll either refer to the misinterpretation of the text or a particular
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group in a particular area, but not the entire community itself. So once I debate that, anytime
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they attack the bible i go so you agree muhammad is wrong why he said my bible has not changed you
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said it is so that means he's wrong so are you going to renounce muhammad see this is how you
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have to do it but then they'll come back and say if they say well no the bible is right well muhammad
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is wrong again because my bible says that what the kran says about jesus is wrong so islamic dilemma
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damn if you do damn if you don't see once you do that everything else falls in place so you would
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debate him and what what what topics would you debate him on i would love to get these guys to
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debate me islamic dilemma whether the quran is perfectly preserved free of contradictions does
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islam teach tawhid meaning does it teach the absolute oneness of allah believe it or not it
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doesn't that's what they'll tell you they'll sell you that script and does the bible teach a trinity
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and or the deed of christ these are the foundational issues right these are it this is where you
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than you Christians, you worship three gods.
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their spiel and quote a verse here and quote a verse there
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They believe the Quran is the uncreated speech of Allah.
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So here's another problem that Christians have.
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They will debate the Bible versus the Quran.
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And this is something emitted by Muslim scholars.
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eternal word of the Father who became flesh.
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Well, that's what they believe about the Quran.
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The Koran is the uncreated word of God that became a book.
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So your view of Jesus is their view of the Koran.
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None of us think the Bible is the uncreated word of God.
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Because God used human authors and used their personalities.
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So if you're going to say it's the uncreated word of God,
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then you're going to say those human authors also are uncreated.
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and then 14 the word became flesh so they took that idea of jesus and applied it to the quran
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something admitted by muslim scholars now if the quran is the uncreated word of allah
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very i mean to be fair a lot of the things in the quran were stolen from the bible and from the
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torah and then they were just sort of like changed around um and like readapted for the quran
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it is not Allah, and it's not other than Allah.
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So if you say the Qur'an is not Allah and it's uncreated,
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But I thought there's only one uncreated entity.
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though they're distinct, they're inseparable, so they're one.
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Oh, welcome to the wonderful world of the Trinity.
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on a day of judgment, the Qur'an will appear as a man interceding for you.
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If this is a speech of Allah, who is it speaking to?
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The Qur'an is speaking to Allah, so it's not Allah.
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It can interact with Allah, so they're not the same person.
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They're different conscious entities, but they're inseparable.
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Wow, you're sounding more like a Trinitarian the more we speak.
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Now, if you multiply with the chapters, even the chapters speak, and they appear.
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It says, chapter 2 and 3 of the Quran will appear as birds, and they will cover you with the wings, and they'll go before you, arguing with Allah to defend you.
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Someone in the chat asked me if I can read Farsi.
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Does that sound like Islam teaches absolute unity of Allah?
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Let me ask you, in regards to the religion itself, on how it's grown over the years.
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okay and i'm sure as you're going through it you know they've had a lot of success they've grown
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at a pace where you can look at data on at by what you're you know the world's going to be a
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majority muslim i think it's 2060 or something like that yep 2060 2070 and they're not slowing
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down and you see the growth they're having in uk in 1980 was only a half a million people living
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there give or take uh today they got four and a half million people five million people living
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there and you're seeing london growing the way that it is the mayor is a three-term only three-term
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mayor they've ever had sadiq khan and you're seeing what happened in new york with mamdani
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getting elected right muslim democratic socialist they're growing okay on the christian side i i
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don't know if you know charlie kirk played offense charlie kirk was out there doing a lot and getting
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a hold of young kids who turning point usa wanted to grow up and be able to defend their faith in
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in a strong way and he was it's so sad um that charlie kirk was assassinated like i still think
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about that and like he was just such a nice nice guy and the woke left just demonized him
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and then they were like celebrating his assassination i mean like what sort of
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What kind of soulless monster do you have to be to celebrate the assassination of someone like Charlie Kirk?
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Why do you think their church is growing the way that it is?
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Yeah. Well, if you look at it really and compare it, it's not really so much conversion.
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Yeah, they get converts, but even statistics have shown now, I don't know when the last statistic came up,
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but I remember years ago, one statistic showed that about over 90% of converts leave Islam in five years
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because they're giving a sanitized version of Islam that when they study,
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they realize it doesn't correspond to what they were taught.
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it's so true guys did you see that video oh my gosh let me see if i can find it
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um there's this video of like this like influencer on social media and then she like
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she pretends i don't know or like she she claims that she um like converted to islam
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and then and then she can't handle it. So she like she posts this social media profile. Where
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is it? I need to find this. Let me find this video. I know I just saw it somewhere. I literally
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just saw it on my. Oh, gosh. Okay. All right. I'm going to find the video. But yeah, it was like
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this this random like girl and then you know she converted to Islam on social media and then like
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she wore the hijab and then she got sick of it I think after like a few months so then like she
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posts this video and she's like so you know like a lot of you're gonna be upset and she's like this
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like random white girl right a lot of you're gonna be upset um I just want to say that you know
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even before i announced publicly that i was a muslim like you know me and allah we had a thing
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going on and i just kind of wish i'd kept it private um and so you know like i'm not gonna
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wear hijab anymore but i'm still a muslim and you know just for the for the next little while
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um i'm never gonna like i for the next little while or i don't know maybe never i'm not gonna
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talk about islam anymore but i'm still muslim like it's just the funniest thing okay i'm gonna find
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i have to find this video um but what he says here is so true like all these ignorant people
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convert to to islam because they don't actually know what it's like and then when they find out
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they're like oh what did we get into um but then they also have to recognize that the punishment
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for leaving islam is death right so yeah i'm gonna replay this i'm gonna try to find that
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um i'm gonna try to find that video offense charlie kirk was out there doing a lot and
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getting a hold of young kids who turning point usa wanted to grow up and be able to defend their
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faith in a strong way and he was becoming unapologetic right the way he was doing it
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charlie was yeah um why why do you think their church is growing the way that it is yeah well
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if you look at it really and compare it it's not really so much conversion yeah they get converts
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but even statistics have shown now i don't know when the last statistic came out but i remember
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years ago one statistic showed that about over 90 percent of converts leave islam in five years
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because they're giving a sanitized version of islam that when they study they realize it
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doesn't correspond to what they were taught so over 90 guys i found the video okay i found the
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video let me send it to myself here um let me transfer it from my phone to um my laptop here
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all right this is the girl who just one of the funniest things i've ever seen um
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okay all right guys okay just just watch this i'd rather do anything than make this video but
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genuinely i'm in a mental state that i've never been in before and it's very scary i know that
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this video is going to disappoint so many people i know the comments are going to be filled with
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i'm so disappointed i knew she was a fake muslim people's definitely going to be saying that
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people's definitely going to be saying I use the religion for clout they're going to be saying I
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knew she was going to take the hijab off all of this stuff I'm actually just going to have to
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firm the comments because genuinely I'm like actually losing my mind in a serious way I love
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the community of Muslim sisters that I've built on this platform I genuinely hope to never ever
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ever lose the system that I've built and I genuinely from the bottom of my heart appreciate
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every single person that has made this journey easier for me has said nice things to me has been
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there for me has asked me for advice I've advised them like genuinely thank you so so so much I
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love the community i have built more than anything i'm so grateful for the opportunities that i've
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been able to give you guys and that you've also been able to give me islam genuinely changed my
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life for the better and it's something i'll forever be grateful for and i'll forever be a
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part of if anyone takes anything from this video please let it be that i will always be a muslim
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no matter what you see me posting well not like i'm gonna be like going around posting haram stuff
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but like without the hijab and stuff i am always gonna be a muslim like don't let people in the
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comments be telling you she said that she's not anymore because i've never said that and i never
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will say that like I'm always going to be a Muslim with that being said I will say the most I feel
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like I'm on Dean and most connected to Allah is when it's between me and Allah like when I first
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reverted I didn't tell social media for like six months and genuinely I do really really regret
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telling social media like I regret for my personal self telling people but also I know that my videos
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have helped so many people so like I don't regret posting them I'm not going to take them down
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because i know that they do help a lot of people
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but i am also gonna stop posting about islam for a little while
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maybe forever i'm really unsure at the moment did you catch that she's like
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okay take them down because i know that they do help a lot of people
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but i am also gonna stop posting about islam for a little while
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Oh, my gosh. So, all right. I had to share that. So, when Sam here is talking about how a lot of the people who, you know, convert to Islam, most of them leave within five years.
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Yeah, he's not exaggerating because, yeah, because a lot of people have no clue what they're getting into. And again, I'm not here to judge a religion. I mean, you do you. If that's how you want to live your life, that's fine.
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but a lot of people have no idea what it's actually like and they're not told everything
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it's always it's always the funniest thing for me to like see all these like
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people like you know convert to islam because they have no idea what's coming
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oh my gosh all right all right so so you know there you go
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one statistic showed that about over 90 percent of converts leave islam in five years
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because they're giving a sanitized version of islam that when they study they realize it
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doesn't correspond to what they were taught so over 90 percent of commerce leave within five
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years that was a statistic that was mentioned years ago but find out maybe yeah but they don't
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last the majority of though but those who ended up let's say remaining it's not much on conversion
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but believe it or not it has to do with procreation you would if you look at it
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unless they're completely westernized right if they bought into the western dream and having
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more kids means greater financial responsibility so have less kids if they're not westernized
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typically they have larger families and because of that if you have a muslim who has a wife who
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has four kids but then multiply that with two other wives on the side we got problems they're
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But the thing is also, even with that said, we have to be careful.
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Just because you have majority Muslims, they don't all believe the same.
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Like a lot of people say Islam is the fastest growing religion.
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It's not because people are converting to Islam.
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It's because, you know, every man has like up to four wives and then they're just like pumping out babies.
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So the reason it's the fastest growing religion is because, you know, big families, multiple wives.
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So even when we say they're growing, it's not one branch of Islam that's growing.
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It is simply these populations who were then governed by Islam, many of whom don't know their tradition or they don't have the same tradition.
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and they're growing because of procreation more so than conversion.
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And then at times, they become their worst enemies.
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In fact, if I'm correct, I'm not into the political thing,
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but what about the fights between Shia and Sunnis, even in recent times?
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In fact, I've seen videos where you'll find Sunni, the terrorists in Iraq,
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Because they think Shia is even worse because of their views of Aisha.
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not all shia extreme so they turn on each other they're not all in agreement they're not monolithic
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so even when you say oh they're going to be over two billion but two billion muslims of different
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mindsets of different sects that don't all agree and at times they turn against each other and
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anathematize one another same thing with christianity so i'm not trying to say christianity
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doesn't have that problem right we christians okay when you say there are two billion christians
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well among those you're counting joel's witnesses and you're counting mormons and you're counting
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all these cult groups that identifies Christianity.
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You're not just counting historic Christian churches.
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You're not just counting the Catholic church.
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You're counting all who sign off as a Christian.
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And some of them are Christian by name but live like the devil.
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When you have a Muslim saying he's a Muslim but he drinks and eats pork,
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My teenage years, I had a couple of good Muslim buddies.
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but to say practicing Muslims, how many of you are?
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Let me ask this, because you'll talk to some people
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who are Jewish, they'll say, I'm Jew-ish, right?
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Adam will say, I'm Jew-ish, I'm not really Jewish,
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I'm more Jewish, but you have that watered down Christians,
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However, which one has more radical true believers of their faith?
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Forget about, you know, all those that we can go through.
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Which one has a bigger percentage of true believers
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that they have fully bought into their vision long-term
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i haven't done any uh intensive study on christians who are devout christians but you have
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a revival happening right now you're having a revival where the youth are not just nominal
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christians they are being sparked up to be on fire for christ so this is why i say i can't really
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give you a number if there are more zealous muslims than christians but to say that in recent
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times because of recent events there hasn't the spirit is moving in such a way that i'm also
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astonished seeing the hunger among youth to want to now come back to their christian roots or even
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by the way um he makes a very good point i know that for uh you know for a fact both christianity
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and zoroastrianism are the two fastest growing religions in occupied iran um however you know
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it's all done in secret because the crime for um leaving islam is death and so many iranians um who
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have you know left islam or never believed in islam in the first place um are secret christians
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or secrets or astrians and they basically go to like you know church underground and they have
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like you know secret bible studies and and things like that in order to avoid being persecuted by
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the islamic republic the way you're having an explosion of converts of islam and muslim lands
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they even say that the church is exploding in africa and in iran they go there are a lot of
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iranians who become christian they're underground i just said that oh my gosh i did i not just say
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that i literally just said christianity is christianity is the fastest growing religion in
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iran but even with that said like i said when i say christiancy this is again we have to be fair
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they're converting to a variety of forms of christianity some are becoming mormons
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well do we consider them christian right joe's witnesses or oneness so to say how many are
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zealous i'd have to look at the statistics but we from my own experience seeing online
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i'm seeing the youth come in droves on fire to reclaim their christian faith and on fire for
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jesus i'm seeing it when i was doing it in the late 90s early 2000 it wasn't the way it is now
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so the youtube is having a you well whatever not just youtube but you get what i'm saying
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having a huge impact it is causing people to look into christianity and i am seeing a lot of muslims
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leave christian uh leave islam for christianity but i am seeing people who convert to islam but
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those are the christians and i have to say very poorly catechized and being given a sanitized
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version of islam because i've interviewed people who said i became a muslim five years ago but then
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i found such and such or such and such and i saw and i was shocked that this is what islam teaches
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i can't be a muslim anymore because they give you a sanitized version of islam see the difference
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with jesus christ here's the difference the more you get to know muhammad is teaching the more
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repulsive it turns out to be the more you get to know jesus the more irresistible he is
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the more you fall in love with him he's he is beauty in the flesh if you want to show a person
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why not to become muslim just compare muhammad to jesus because jesus makes everything else look
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ugly because he's just beautiful what can you say bad about jesus i mean even from the islamic
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perspective one of the ways i even argue my case that jesus is superior to muhammad
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i use the islamic jesus because i don't believe the islamic jesus is the real jesus right because
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paul told us if you go to second corinthians chapter 11 he warned he's warning the church
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second corinthians chapter 11 verse one of four he's warning the church he goes look
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i converted you basically so you are my spiritual daughter because he's their spiritual father he
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goes i have betrothed you as a chaste virgin to one husband because the church is the bride of
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Christ. So this is spiritual. It's nothing carnal, nothing physiologic. We have to emphasize that
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because we have people, sick minds who think that Christ is going to come and have a physical wife.
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No, it's the church, the spiritual bride of Christ. But there is something called spiritual virginity.
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Paul uses it. I want to present you as a chaste virgin to one husband, but I am afraid that as
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the serpent deceived Eve by his cunning, you too will be deceived from your simple devotion to
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Christ. Now, how does Satan, the serpent, rob us of our spiritual virginity? He says it in verse
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four. He says, because if someone comes and preaches another Jesus, then we preach or a
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different spirit from the one you receive or a different gospel, you put up with it easily. So
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he's saying the way Satan makes Christians lose their integrity, virginity, is by presenting
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another Jesus and you tolerate it. Well, he's talking about the Islamic Jesus. And I'm not
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saying he knew about it, but the other Jesus is the Jesus of Islam, or Mormonism, or Jewish
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Witnesses. It's not the same Jesus. There's only one Jesus, and you've got to get him right.
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So the Jesus that Paul preached was God in the flesh, one with the Father, and the Spirit. Any
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other Jesus is Satan's way of deceiving you. So when we say to Muslims, yeah, you know, we all
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honor Jesus. No, we don't. I don't honor your Jesus. Your Jesus is not my Jesus. So, but when
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Christians, go with it. Paul says, see now,
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who announced the coming Muhammad. My Jesus
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Jesus? They'll say no. Then your Jesus is not my
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and this is his answer, it's a very good question
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So as far as your first question, your second question
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will answer first and then come back to your first question
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what will the woman get? The same question
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that means inshallah you'll get something equal
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what your heart hasn't desired what your eyes hasn't seen what a ear hasn't heard so inshallah
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if you go to heaven you will get something good which inshallah you'll be satisfied but the
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question is first you have to enter heaven if you don't enter heaven you won't get that something
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which is good what does that mean oh did you see the he didn't answer the question he didn't answer
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it at all no no pay attention to his trick oh yeah the quran says you know a woman will get
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what i hasn't seen right okay well hold on does that mean she's going to get so many men he never
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said yes to catch that because he can't say that that would be a lie from the pit of hell so he's
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an excellent politician he knows how to get around it because if you pay attention he never said
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women will get multiple men he can't say that so but you're going to get the lights that are
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mind-blowing okay i understand that does that include that the woman gets multiple men oh but
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you're going to get what the eye has never seen or the mind has comprehended okay but does that
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mean i'm going to get more than one husband see this is the rhetoric i'm talking about what do
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women get in the muslim religion well and islam you know can i tell you yeah you will be part of
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the hoodies that your husband will deflower for all eternity tell me more i i told you that guys
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like i think earlier on i spoke about that and i was like you know when a woman goes to heaven
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She just becomes part of the 72 virgins of her husband.
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Okay, now let's say you're a good Muslim woman.
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Now it's difficult to ascertain if you've been married multiple times, which Muslim man?
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But if you pass the test and you had a good Muslim husband,
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Allah will then make you part of those huris for your husband to deflower.
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like i try to avoid this part this is why i just focus on like islamic terrorism because the other
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part the other parts are just like very awkward for me our english word horror comes from that
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word by the way i was just gonna say it sounds really familiar with the horror
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oh i didn't know you're going to be a whore i was like okay that didn't sound i was always
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gonna break out with an impression the brother said but we're not doing comedy vincent
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vincent look at his birthday by the way what is it october 18. he's born on the same day
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we have a same birthday 13 years apart thank god yeah thank you muscular handsome very different
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buddy surrounded by muscular beasts too but my man so so okay so so the contradictions
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of what a man gets versus what a woman yet yeah if if i'm a logical guy and i'm truly looking for
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religion and i'm open-minded yes and i'm looking to the christian church i'm going you know studying
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judaism maybe i can go that direction i'm studying scientology lds oh and i'm and i'm also putting
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becoming a muslim right 72 virgins how can i buy into that if i got anything but a b or higher
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in math in high school do you understand what i'm saying i don't know if you got what i'm saying so
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The problem is Allah can meet the demand by just giving you, just creating as many as you need.
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Allah can do what no eye, didn't you remember what no eye has seen, brother?
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He was quoting Paul because Muhammad took Paul's words.
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That statement comes from 1 Corinthians 2, verse 9.
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But Muhammad heard it and misapplied it, misappropriated it.
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So if you go to 1 Corinthians 2, you're going to see that the context is about
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what God has in store for believers who love him.
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But Muhammad took it, adapted it, reinterpreted it.
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So ironically, Muhammad is quoting Paul, not Jesus here.
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Because if you go to 1 Corinthians 2, you read 9 all the way to 12,
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that God has prepared for those who love Him. Wow, I
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72. Who are the men? What will the woman get?
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the first question, the second question, answer first and then
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come back to your first question. As far as the question is
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Who are the beautiful women? What will the
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women get? The same question was asked for the
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So the wife of the prophet replied that the woman
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will get that which your heart hasn't desired,
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hasn't heard about. Weird. I've heard that before.
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Inshallah, you'll get something equal. What your heart
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is is that a big part of it or is that a small part of it i mean why would somebody who's a green
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who is open you know muhammad ali doesn't give me the vibes of being a guy that's not smart
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right yeah malcolm x doesn't give me the you know vibes of a guy that's not smart i mean you
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very intelligent even farrakhan you see what what gets them to say you know i'm converting i'm
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going a lot of people i know who you know have gone that direction these are smart guys that
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i've had dinner with i've had lunch but i sit down with them intelligent yeah good citizens
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good families good upbringing good you know even these some of these guys are very good
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net positive to society what is the selling point you can be smart in one way and completely
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oblivious in another way right so when you say smart in what sense business smart okay but that
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does not equate to being theologically smart that's true so Muhammad Ali if you
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really know I convert it was more because of the emphasis on black
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supremacy he became a member of the nation of Islam nation of Islam is just
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black supremacist mindset so when you're oppressed and you have someone saying
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hey you are the original man and all is a black man and the white man's a devil
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if you feel oppressed and inferior that kind of gives you the false pretext that
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But, no, you're special, and that's why you're being oppressed.
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So his conversion wasn't because he knew Islam.
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He knew black supremacy, black-centric Islam,
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which is contrary to the teaching of historic Islam.
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So when you say, why did he, yeah, they're smart,
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Because you have brilliant Christians who are millionaires,
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So I don't deny they're intelligent in one way,
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but it doesn't mean they understand their sources now when you say is this a selling point this is
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one of the things they don't mention this is why i was saying that within five years when people
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study islam and see the horrific horrendous aspects of islam they're shocked that's why
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they accuse us of lying immediately when i say the crown says it you're lying doesn't say because
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they're shocked so i don't want to give the impression that the muslims are the villains
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they're not and i'm not saying to be politically correct most muslims have no idea what islam
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teaches they're just cultural muslims they'll go pray five times a day they just want to get along
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it's those fanatical muslims that are dangerous and they're about ten percent if you they say
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statistically about ten percent that are fanatic but ten percent of two billion that's still a
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large number right most muslims have no idea most christians have no idea the number of radicals
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is actually close to 25 so 25 of the muslim population is radicalized um and are islamic
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terrorists um but again you know 25 of 2 billion is a pretty high number no idea christians
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christianity if i ask a christian about the old testament wars they're shocked to hear that too
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in fact if i recall in the debate didn't they bring up some of the old testament wars to try
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to scandalize the christian debaters because even christians don't know about hey kill everything
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that breeze there's a context to that i mean jesus forces us to try to understand the logic you know
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I mean, even when I came to the faith, it was difficult.
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But then as I understood and I studied, oh, I understand now.
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Point being, just like a Christian will be shocked to hear what's in his Bible
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if he's not properly trained, most Muslims are shocked to hear when I say,
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did you know she was nine when Muhammad deflowered her?
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I mean, it's pretty common knowledge that she was nine.
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So not every Muslim is on board because not every Muslim knows.
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But if you're convinced, now here's the problem.
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If you're convinced it's the truth, you're stuck with it.
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say in one of the conversations with a with a woman you're she's talking to you about being
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a muslim and then you tell the story about how um he did something to his wife because she got
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fat and unattractive and yeah yeah boy you've really been watching me you still like me invite
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me oh yeah i've been watching the last two days i don't know how many hours of content of yours
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i've watched yeah according to again you have to go with the islamic narrative right some people
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say well that's just later tradition uh surat and nisa chapter 4128 if you want to open up
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i'll give you the context 4128 you're going to see the context here yeah surat and nisa chapter
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4128 yeah he opens it up yeah i don't know i would recommend a browser but i don't know which
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one uh the one i have uh for this is in the quran yep watch your 120 chapter 4 128 not 1 to 20 sorry
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128 this is the context of the passage i'm going to explain it here
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now if you're not a sunni you can reject this if you're crown only muslim you can reject this
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because this is based on the hadith because if you want to know okay what was the context of
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these verses they have what's called the occasional reason revelation so you got to go
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into the commentaries you got to go into books and it's all this verse was revealed because of this
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but that's not in the cron so someone wants to reject it they'll say well it doesn't say so
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he'd be right but then i'd say but turn back say well what's the context and how do you know
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when was this composed if he tells me on sixth century i go well the cron doesn't tell you
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sixth century how did you get that all from the same sources i just quoted that you rejected
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interesting so you'll go to them when need be but when it disproves your point no it's now suspect
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But these are the same sources that told you that this is revealed in Medina
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and at this year, because the Quran doesn't tell you.
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But nonetheless, if we read it, here's the thing.
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And if a woman fears from her husband contempt or desertion,
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there is no sin upon them if they make terms of settlement between them,
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Well, if I go to the tradition, Muhammad had at one time 11 wives,
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even more than has God allowed for others.
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If you go to chapter 4, verse 3 of the Quran, you don't need to turn there.
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I think one of the Iranians in the YouTube chat actually mentioned that earlier. I was reading the comments and one of you mentioned that, yeah, Muhammad had 11 wives more than the permissible amount. Yeah, that's a fact. He had 11 wives.
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there but for verse three it says you can have two or three or four wives if you if you can be fair
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if not have one but then it says and as many as your right hands possess
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see that part is not emphasized so the Quran allows unlimited concubinage so while you'll
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hear stories when you have people who go to Saudi Arabia to be maids they don't know they're signing
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up for sex that's part of the deal because in islam yeah um it's called like in farsi anyway
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we call it um yeah it's basically like you know halal prostitution and yeah you can be a concubine
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um also um they use that phrase as many as the right hand possesses um to justify um sex slaves
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as well yeah if you are a maid or a servant the man has conjugal rights to sleep with you
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you're signing up for that that's in chapter four verse three the cron it's there i'm i didn't write
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it you know don't get angry at me and put a hit on me or my friends i didn't write it quran four
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three chapter four verse three if you want to show it to him then we can come back here you'll see
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a maid yeah well it's called your right hand possesses meaning that which is under your
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control whether a servant or a maid or anything here for and if you fear that you will not deal
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justly with the orphans then marry those that please you of other women two or three or four
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but if fear that you will not be just then marry one or those your right hands possess
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right hand possession this um this also just like this this phrase this part of the quran
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or the hadith or whatever um it's also a good explanation you know if you're wondering
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why a lot of islamic terrorists will kidnap and rape non-muslim women is because they believe that
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they have permission to do so based on their religion. I mean, just think about the
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Yazidi genocide, right? And how those ISIS terrorists basically kidnapped 7,000 Yazidi
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women and girls and turned them all into sex slaves, right? And that comes from the whole
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you know justification of of what your right hand possesses so yeah like a a lot of this
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like what he's talking about um can be traced to modern day islamic terrorism
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means you're you're concubines you're free to have as many as you want
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but if you want to marry you can only have up to four but it doesn't tell you okay the four plus
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the slave girls or the maids that's authentic islam sunni and shia tradition there's no because
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it's in the quran right so that part seems to have you know been glossed over i guess many people
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didn't get the memo so when you go ahead brother i'm just i'm just curious how so many i know you're
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not political but how so many of these ilan omar and all these uh women of muslim faith like they're
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my body my choice and everything but then every single thing in the quran is anti them 70 like
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those 72 virgins sam for every guy that goes and has all these virgins like what type of life is
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it as a muslim woman that you die and your eternity is up there having sex with all these
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guys like it doesn't make any sense to me well it does one of two things it makes them leave islam
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or remember if you've been convinced he that allah's god this is only religion well hey what
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choice do i have you understand yeah what okay if i have been duped and beyond any reason without
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convinced this is true i'm stuck what do you want me to do vinnie yeah this is how allah hey
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allah does what he wants i'm just glad i'll be there i won't be burning in the fire see this
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is the why do i say you have to be careful demonizing all muslims because many of them
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are victims of the system right and i don't know i was going to say some but anyway they're victims
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of the system but coming to the explanation i mean explain 4 128 now remember how many wives can uh
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the muslim have two three or four yeah so you mean you can have two three four okay if you can handle
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it and yeah yeah muhammad had 11 11. when he died he widowed nine now what makes it more tragic and
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disgusting this is why i cannot believe if someone knows jesus he'd leave jesus for muhammad so i say
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if you want to really get people to never consider muhammad say look what muhammad did compared to
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jesus jesus's beauty will show you how disgusting these teachings are right focusing on look at
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christ look at in fact comparing muhammad to paul the apostle a glorious holy servant of christ and
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all he was was a servant if you see his lifestyle and his purity he makes muhammad look filthy and
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by comparison just paul who's not our god in the flesh but nonetheless not only in 4128 if you go
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back did muhammad treat one of his wives unjustly every single wife of muhammad after he died could
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never remarry again that's in the crown you cannot have his wives after him so he left some of them
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widows aisha was 18 they say and others in their 20s widows and someone lived to their 50s without
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ever being able to marry have children this is what he did to them and you're telling me he's
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a mercy unto mankind seriously and what does it tell you about a man who had nine wives and
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couldn't get any of them pregnant right they say that his first wife khadijah that was his first
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wife she was 15 years a senior she was actually his boss he used to work for her if we go with
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the again remember we're going by the islamic narrative he used to work for her and she was
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was so impressed by his conduct she proposed marriage and he married her
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according to Islamic tradition she was a wealthy merchant woman because she had
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married two wealthy men and they died left her their fortune and he used to be
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a caravan trader for her so he she was his boss according to the Sunni tradition
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he married her when he was 25 she was 40 and so she supposedly mothered all his
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children but every son he had died as a toddler
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Now, I'm going to explain to you why it is significant.
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All his children, not only the sons died as toddlers,
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but even his daughters, who got married later, died.
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The only child that outlived them was his daughter Fatima,
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She was married to Ali ibn Abu Talib, who's his first cousin.
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so this has significance with the Shia and the Sunni
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The family line of Muhammad supposedly comes from that line.
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supposedly he got Khadija pregnant when she was 40.
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The other wives, he couldn't get any of them pregnant.
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But then he had a sex slave, Maria Al-Qubtia.
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there's some questions whether that's what's really his son but we don't get into that my
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whole point is of all these women he only got one woman supposedly pregnant after khadijah
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son who died none of the other women who can get pregnant not even aisha who married at nine
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left them all childless and widows who could never remarry again and he's a mercy unto a woman
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how where's the mercy of leaving these women without a husband or children for the rest of
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their days that's merciful women have needs right they want companionship they want intimacy they
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want children and he left them with none of that and you're telling me he's a mercy unto mankind
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now to show you how cruel he is that's where you're going to come for 128 now you're going
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to see the cruelty of muhammad now you're going to see how this man is considered a mercy and i
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have no idea man if he's merciful then you and me vinnie we're in trouble now it says if a woman
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And she feared that mom was going to divorce her.
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fat lady so she's a large woman and an older woman she feared muhammad is going to divorce her
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so she made a deal with him keep me as your wife but you don't have to visit me because part of the
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deal was he would have to visit these wives on successive days but the kron says it's up to him
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he could choose not to you know i'm not going to see you i'm going to see you the kron says it's
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up to his discretion that's chapter 33 of the kron versus 50 to 51 which wife you want to see
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which wife you don't want to see yeah up to you so there's not a set schedule calendar you have
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to follow so that means you'd be thankful if he chooses to see you be grateful so she comes to
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him and says look don't divorce me keep me as your wife now remember each wife has to have her
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own house and she cannot go out unless there's a need and with his permission so can you manage
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your under house arrest pretty much you can only go if it's a need or he gives you permission
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or if it's something really like hey I gotta run to the toilet
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and the day assigned to me you can give it to Aisha
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in a house without you know and having no children with her all because he was not attracted to her
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and she knew it and she said don't divorce me now if muhammad was merciful you know what a merciful
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god and a prophet would say what are you crazy i love you just as much as the first day i laid my
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eyes on in fact i love you more what do you mean no you're my wife and i'm gonna honor you okay
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good deal let's go for it and it's sanctioned in the crown see what it says if a woman fears
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from her husband contempt or desertion there is no sin upon them if they make terms of settlement
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between them and someone's best so if you agree to this all right good deal go with it but who wins
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in this deal the men the men are winning the women are getting abused i don't know how in the world
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this guy is a mercy unto mankind and when people tell me respect my prophet how can i respect such
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a man who has not only destroyed the people around him sam how much uh when you walk in the streets
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What kind of threats are you getting when you're out there
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Interestingly, TikTok and Instagram, the clips made me famous,
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So if I'm going places, I'll get recognized.
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But Muslims, even if they recognize me, will try to avoid me.
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Because remember, unless it's a fanatic who wants to kill me,
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right so if they even recognize me they won't come up to me right because again this stereotype
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not all muslims are killers not all muslims are terrorists so i haven't run into the 10 yeah i
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haven't run into them got it it's more like god yeah that's a very good thing yeah it's a very
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good thing but yeah the number is closer to 25 based on counterterrorism experts by the way in
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In regards to us, Assyrians, you know, the story about what happened with us.
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We used to have a country, you know, the fall of Babel.
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If you're asking me from a theological perspective, because Old Testament history,
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Well, we're told in the book of Nahum, if you're asking me now, just as a Christian,
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there's so much sin he tolerates and then that's over for you
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He says, because of the Assyrians being steeped,
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and it's not just Assyrians, it's just this thing.
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You can just start reading from Isaiah chapter 10 on,
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all the way, you're going to see all the way to 19.
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God has done about the judgment of all the nations,
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like the Moabites, the Ammonites, the Babylonians.
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This is where people must read the Old Testament.
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They go, oh, this book is the Old Testament, and he's the God of Israel.
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If you read the Old Testament, God keeps saying,
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The reason why I'm working through Israel is to move them to worship me.
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And point of fact, I want to ask you guys a question as I answer this one.
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When is the last time you were told that there's another group
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said to be God's people in the Old Testament besides Israel?
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Because you're told that Israel is the people of God, right?
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When is the last time someone told you that the very Old Testament says
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there's another group that is said to be the people of God?
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It's the very passage every Assyrian and his mother quotes.
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The response of Israel was to be his priest, to lead the nations to him.
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And do you know the one group of people that are the most attacked in the Old Testament are the Israelites.
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Now, what that tells me is this is a brutally honest record.
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Because if you're making up stories, you're going to sugarcoat things, right?
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Are you talking about the Forgotten Nation of Prophecy by John Bucco?
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I get that, but he talks about that in the book, right?
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But my point being, I'm not talking about future per se.
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God in the Old Testament talks about the nations and his love for them
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The role of Israel in the Old Testament, as I'm preparing to answer your question,
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because I want to give a context to the Old Testament.
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Because if I just say, well, God says he's going to destroy Nineveh.
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God says to the Israelites, you see what I do to nations?
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I'm going to do worse to you if you don't toe the line.
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That's why I know this book is, look, if I'm making up a book,
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I want to make myself look as good as possible.
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The people that are the thorn in God's eye that God has the hardest time with
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So that tells me this is a brutally honest record that's not trying to sugarcoat
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On the contrary, God keeps reminding them,
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Do you dare discriminate against the Gentiles?
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There'll be a highway between the land of Egypt and Assyria,
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and then he goes, Assyria, the work of my hands.
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the book of jonah is all about god wanting no nation to perish not even the syrians because
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he said to jonah give them 40 days 40 days and the great sin in them will be destroyed
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but when they turn to national repentance god turned back from his wrath and then jonah says
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something interesting if you go to jonah chapter 4 verses 1 to 3 if you open up specifically to
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you look what he says he goes see i know this is the kind of god you are and that's why i wanted
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to run because I want you to destroy them because I knew if they repented, you would forgive them
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because that's the kind of God you are. You don't want anyone to perish. His hatred for the Assyrians
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was so great that he knew if he reached them and they turned, God would spare them because God loves
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all people. And this is the God of the Old Testament because people always go to the New
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Testament. No, I'll show you from the Old Testament, it's the same God. So if you open up Jonah chapter
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four, verse one to three, you're going to see it. So this is the context in which I will put
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warriors, I can see why he wanted you guys wiped out.
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It's like, man, I can't keep up with this guy.
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It's not my fault you're not a Syrian, brother.
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But to Jonah, this seemed very wrong, and he became angry.
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Isn't this what I said, Lord, when I was still at home?
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Meaning, isn't that what I reasoned myself, that if they turned, you would spare them?
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That is why I tried to forestall by fleeing to Tarshish.
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This is getting way too theological for me now.
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So let me see if there's anything else here. I think that's pretty much it with respect to
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the contradictions. Yeah, because then he speaks about Assyrians and the Bible and Assyrians and
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Genco, which I mean, if you guys are interested, you can go and finish watching the podcast.
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um it's patrick bet david um episode 684 sam shamoon reveals quran and prophet muhammad
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contradictions so um it's at the one hour 55 minute mark so there you go guys thanks for
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joining i hope that um you know i know some of you wanted me to to speak about religion again
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Like I'm, that's not my area of expertise, but I hope that this podcast was interesting.
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I certainly learned one or two new things, but, you know, pretty much reaffirmed what I know,
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especially when it comes to the connection with Islamic terrorism, right?
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and sort of the, the radical take and the radical aspect of it. So yeah, it was, it was definitely
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interesting. It was more of a good reminder. I mean, I guess like a refresher for me because
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as someone who, you know, has dealt with the Islamic Republic occupying Iran and Sharia law,
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yeah, like, you know, we, we kind of know all this stuff anyway. We don't really talk about it,
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but, um, yeah, we know, we know all about it. So there you go. Thanks everyone for joining. Um,
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make sure you like, and subscribe to my YouTube channel and share my video, help me get the word
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out. And I will see you all tomorrow at 12 noon Eastern for my regular daily live stream, where
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we talk about politics, Islamic terrorism, jihad, and the Middle East. Until then,
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have a great evening. And as always, payan de Iran, Javid Shah.