Goldie Ghamari - December 16, 2025


The ＂Islamic＂ Golden Age has NOTHING to do with Islam. IT'S FAKE.


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In this episode, I talk about the Islamic Golden Age and why it is a myth. I also talk about why there is no such thing as a "Islamic Golden Age" and why there was no such a thing as the Islamic golden age.

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00:00:00.000 just wanted to concentrate on the islamic golden age was that around the time that we know as the
00:00:06.080 islamic golden age yeah so the islamic golden age well there's kind of two and the one is the abbasids
00:00:13.280 in baghdad and this is the the abbasid um empire starts after the umayyads and the umayyads are
00:00:19.840 like so around 750. usually the abbasid golden age would be sometime after 800. okay and this is
00:00:27.200 This is Haran al-Rashid, who's now allied with or on friendly terms with Charlemagne.
00:00:32.620 But there's also a supposed golden age in Spain, Umayyad Spain, in Cordoba.
00:00:38.920 And what needs to be understood about the golden age is this.
00:00:44.860 Let me try to start it off by giving an analogy, right?
00:00:48.360 I forget which Arab country or, you know, in the Gulf, which is the one that has those skyscrapers that everyone...
00:00:53.760 Dubai? Dubai? UAE?
00:00:55.280 yeah okay imagine you know many many i also just want to counter something the islamic golden age
00:01:03.840 is kind of a myth actually no it it is a myth it is a myth um the vast majority of scholars
00:01:13.200 scientists authors um you know mathematicians during the islamic golden age were actually
00:01:21.840 Iranian. Many of them were in fact fake Muslims. So they only pretended to be Muslim in order to 0.98
00:01:31.520 stay alive and to, of course, not be murdered by their Muslim overlords. There's no such thing as 1.00
00:01:38.980 the Islamic Golden Age. If anything, it should be called the Iranian Golden Age. I just find it 1.00
00:01:45.020 absolutely ridiculous how the Arab Muslim colonizers are constantly trying to claim 1.00
00:01:53.440 other cultures and other civilizations as their own. And, you know, why are they trying to actively 1.00
00:02:02.360 erase the identity of the scholars by just claiming that, you know, they're all Muslim,
00:02:11.920 For example, when people are talking about Shakespeare, instead of saying that Shakespeare was a British poet, imagine someone just saying, yeah, Shakespeare was a Christian poet and everything that he did was because of Christianity.
00:02:30.020 Does that make any sense to you? No one talks about Shakespeare, the Christian poet. No one talks about Bach, the Christian composer, or Mozart, the Christian composer. They identify people by their nationality and where they were from. And yet, for some reason, when it comes to the Islamic Golden Age, first of all, they erase their identity. They never mention, you know, that they were Persian. They basically say all this happened because of Islam, right?
00:02:59.120 Okay, well, if the Islamic Golden Age happened because of Islam, why the hell are modern day 0.98
00:03:07.760 countries that are governed by Sharia law, 7th century Islamic hellholes? If Islam is what led 1.00
00:03:17.160 to the Islamic Golden Age, why is Afghanistan such a hellhole? Why is Iran, which is now occupied by 1.00
00:03:25.640 the Islamic Republic, a hellhole. So you have to think critically about these things. And 0.98
00:03:31.180 the reason that the Islamic Golden Age happened early on is because that was the same time 0.98
00:03:41.020 that they were conquering all these different peoples from different civilizations. Every 0.97
00:03:47.400 civilization that they conquered and captured, they basically took their knowledge, took their 1.00
00:03:53.860 scholars, forced everyone to become Muslim, and then they claimed all of that in the name of 0.95
00:04:00.560 Islam. You have to think critically about these things. Unfortunately, history is always written
00:04:06.520 by the victors, kind of how they're rewriting history when it comes to the Crusades, right?
00:04:12.240 You have these people just trying to make it seem as if the Crusades happened because the big bad 0.69
00:04:17.440 Christians just decided to attack the Arab Muslim invaders. Very similar with the Islamic Golden 0.99
00:04:23.860 Age. I'll give you one example. I'll give you one example. They like to say that a Muslim invented 0.99
00:04:29.300 algebra, which is totally false. First of all, algebra originates from India. And then Al-Khwarazmi,
00:04:37.980 who we call the father of modern day algebra, he was inspired by the Hindus. And then when he
00:04:47.340 created modern day algebra, he did that despite being labeled as a Muslim. And in fact, he was
00:04:53.760 Iranian. So the father of modern day algebra was Iranian. But you never hear about that. All they
00:05:00.840 say is that he was Muslim. He was Muslim. It was a Muslim that did this, Muslim did that.
00:05:06.520 Not true at all. That's just one example. And like I said, like 90% of the people involved 1.00
00:05:14.640 in the Islamic Golden Age were Iranians and were from the Persian Empire.
00:05:20.940 Let's say decades or centuries from now, those buildings are still standing there. 0.85
00:05:25.260 And, you know, the whole, everything's changed and, you know, Islam maybe is gone or whatever. 0.98
00:05:29.040 And people look at it and go, wow, that was a golden age, that country, that civilization, 0.98
00:05:35.220 because look what it led to. Now we would say, well, no, I mean, they had their Islam, sure, 0.99
00:05:40.380 but this is actually money and westerners built it western technology western workers and it just 0.98
00:05:46.460 so happened that these arabs had the money to spend on it that i submit to you is the best way
00:05:50.620 to understand the golden age that happened historically it didn't happen due to anything 0.70
00:05:55.340 to do with islam quite the contrary it happened despite islam okay and it was basically so let's
00:06:00.540 uh if we go to i just said that guys i just said that right so he just said the islamic golden age
00:06:07.660 didn't happen because of islam it happened despite islam oh my gosh maybe maybe he's actually going to
00:06:17.420 say the truth oh my gosh guys okay the abbasid as i was telling you which is the primary golden age 0.81
00:06:22.380 um this is now okay so now the abbasid empire is more persianized and it's it's in it's in baghdad
00:06:28.860 okay and it's it's very it's heavily persianized and um at the time a lot of the i just said that
00:06:37.580 guys i did because that all used to be part of the persian empire and then when the arab muslim
00:06:43.180 invaders came and they conquered persia the vast majority of iranians right in order to survive
00:06:50.300 they you know pretend converted to to islam persia and persians you know now you know iran um we were
00:06:58.220 conquered but we were not colonized so we kept our language we kept our identity we kept our 0.93
00:07:06.220 culture we kept all of that the vast majority were just uh you know pretend muslims so that 0.93
00:07:14.300 the arab muslim invaders would just you know leave us alone so oh wow okay this is this is really 1.00
00:07:20.220 interesting no wonder you guys were recommending me to to to play raymond ibrahim he's actually 1.00
00:07:29.020 wow he's okay like i'm i'm blown away here i'm gonna go back because this is um
00:07:34.620 wow now we would say well no i mean they had their islam sure but this is actually money
00:07:40.940 and westerners built it western technology western workers and it just so happened that
00:07:45.820 these arabs had the money to spend on it that i submit to you is the best way to understand the 0.56
00:07:50.060 golden age that happened historically it didn't happen due to anything to do with islam quite 0.74
00:07:55.340 the contrary it happened despite islam okay and it was basically so let's uh if we go to the abbasid 0.56
00:08:00.940 as i was telling you which is the primary golden age um this is now okay so now the abbasid empire
00:08:06.380 is more persianized and it's it's in it's in baghdad okay and it's it's very it's heavily
00:08:12.380 persianized and um at the time a lot of the people keep in mind when these arab muslim conquests
00:08:19.660 happen most of so let's say egypt and syria which were highly christian let's say in the 8th century
00:08:25.820 9th century 10th century there's still majority christian and there's jews also as well especially
00:08:31.500 in alexandria and various cities and you have a lot of zoroastrians and persia okay you have
00:08:36.860 all these different groups who are living underneath now islamic rule they're the 0.71
00:08:41.340 ones who are doing all the stuff that we call the golden age okay it's christian
00:08:45.820 he just said it oh my gosh okay i need to go find more stuff by raymond ibrahim and his thoughts on
00:08:56.720 the you know islamic golden age oh my gosh like he basically just confirmed what i've been saying
00:09:03.560 see guys like i know my stuff i know my stuff you guys have to trust me okay like everything i say
00:09:08.920 you know just because you haven't heard it before you might be like what is she talking about
00:09:13.820 But I'm telling you guys, I have yet to say something incorrect, and everything that I say, right, it's true. It's true.
00:09:24.620 Most of, so let's say Egypt and Syria, which were highly Christian, let's say in the 8th century, 9th century, 10th century, there's still a majority Christian.
00:09:33.040 And there's Jews also as well, especially in Alexandria and various cities, and you have a lot of Zoroastrians and Persia. 0.88
00:09:40.520 Okay, you have all these different groups who are living underneath now Islamic rule. 0.97
00:09:45.100 They're the ones who are doing all the stuff that we call the Golden Age, okay? 0.99
00:09:49.440 It's Christians, it's Jews, and especially it's the Persians in the Abbasid era. 0.77
00:09:54.960 And it's not because of anything special about Islam. 0.97
00:09:57.840 I mean, they are literally not Muslims. 0.74
00:10:00.140 And a few of them who are, are literally, they just converted, they're first-generation converts,
00:10:05.760 which means they're still primarily whatever their former religion was. 0.93
00:10:10.060 So the best that you can say is that the Muslims, you know, sponsored it, maybe paid for it. 0.99
00:10:16.300 Okay. 0.97
00:10:16.540 But there was nothing intrinsic to Islam. 0.91
00:10:19.440 And once Islam started to harden, because even at this time. 0.94
00:10:24.460 Did you catch that? 0.98
00:10:26.660 He just said what I'm saying.
00:10:28.720 There is nothing Islamic about the Islamic Golden Age. 1.00
00:10:32.660 The vast majority of them were Persians, aka Iranians, right? 1.00
00:10:38.080 Boom. 0.99
00:10:40.060 And yet, for some reason, the Arab Muslim colonizers, they like to go out and they like to talk about the Islamic Golden Age and how Islam did this and Islam did... 0.94
00:10:48.480 No, no, it was not that whatsoever. 0.98
00:10:52.380 Vindication, guys, vindication. 1.00
00:10:53.920 You guys have no idea how frustrating it is for us Iranians when you have these like, you know, these these these radical Muslims and they go out and they're like, oh, the Islamic Golden Age is... 1.00
00:11:05.980 And then meanwhile, I'm sitting there and I'm like, really, because the Islamic Golden Age 1.00
00:11:10.180 wouldn't exist without the Zoroastrians from Iran, who are actually the ones doing all of 1.00
00:11:18.440 all of the inventions and all of the findings and everything like that. Right. There you go. 1.00
00:11:24.560 If anything, we should call it the Persian Golden Age. There you go. There you go. 1.00
00:11:30.980 I feel very, very vindicated with that statement.