Goldie Ghamari - Zoroastrianism 101： Religion, Philosophy and History

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00:02:19.200 well good evening everyone welcome to the evening live stream of the goldie show thanks to all of

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00:02:43.580 shout out to all of the channel members who are here and supporting me. So tonight I have a very

00:02:50.000 interesting interview for all of you. I haven't watched this myself. This one was recommended to

00:02:57.780 me, so we'll see how good it is. A lot of you have been asking about the Zoroastrian religion

00:03:05.140 and you want to know more about it. And, um, given that I just made a video about Yaldonite,

00:03:15.700 Yaldonite is the winter solstice. Um, its roots go back to the ancient Persian empire and the

00:03:22.060 Zoroastrian religion. Um, I posted that video. It was actually demonetized. I'm going to make,

00:03:28.340 um, a separate video probably tomorrow talking about how and why my videos are being demonetized

00:03:35.120 But regardless of that, given that it is, you know, an important time religiously and culturally

00:03:42.560 for Iranians, I decided that, you know, let's watch this documentary. It's my first time

00:03:49.840 watching this as well. So let's see how it goes. I want to give a little bit of an intro to it.

00:03:55.880 So, uh, this is, um, uh, an interview from 2012. So about 13 years ago. And the description goes

00:04:07.080 as follows. Professor Kai Khosrow, Irani is a retired professor emeritus of philosophy from

00:04:14.920 city college of New York at city college of New York. He taught philosophy for 41 years and also

00:04:21.320 served as the chairman of the department of philosophy for nine years he has served as

00:04:26.760 director of the academy of sciences and humanities at city university of new york and is a member of

00:04:33.560 the academy of science in new york the american philosophical association the philosophy of

00:04:40.040 science association and the american academy of religion professor irani has lectured in

00:04:46.600 his field at ucla the universities of michigan london gotingen vienna and rome at princeton

00:04:54.280 university he got to work with albert einstein in 1999 he was singularly honored by the establishment

00:05:01.800 of the kd irani chair of philosophy at the city college of new york this video was produced by

00:05:10.040 the Zoroastrian Assembly, www.zoroastrian.com and Lord of Wisdom. So given that this video

00:05:19.820 is available on YouTube from the YouTube account called the California Zoroastrian Center,

00:05:28.100 I think this is going to give you a lot of good information about Zoroastrianism and what it

00:05:34.780 means and the history of zoroastrianism so let's dive right in guys oh and by the way tonight for

00:05:41.080 those of you who are wondering tonight my bubbly drink is cranberry flavored because you know it's

00:05:48.300 christmas time and uh so there you go um cranberry flavored sparkling water to you know be festive and

00:05:57.720 in the mood all right let's get started

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00:07:31.540 Hello, my name is Shah Ruzash and I am going to conduct an interview today with Professor

00:07:41.140 K. Khosrow Irani from City University in New York. He is a professor of ancient philosophy

00:07:50.620 and it is a great pleasure and honor to have him here today and to be able to do an interview

00:07:57.780 with him.

00:07:59.040 We have individuals who have translated the Gathas, but yet their profession is translation.

00:08:11.280 And they have lacked philosophical knowledge and understanding.

00:08:15.980 It is like me translating an economic document, but there are certain terms in their interest

00:08:23.660 rate supply and demand but yet i'm not an economist to understand it so my job is to really translate

00:08:31.340 it and then we send that translation to the economic department let's say of a university

00:08:39.420 and they're the experts to comprehend it so isn't the best source of understanding zartushra's

00:08:46.300 message for most part is to refer to philosophers who have studied it as

00:08:53.680 opposed to trans trans translators you're so right there will be people who

00:09:00.640 would resist your suggestion but undoubtedly it is a philosophic doctrine

00:09:08.780 and it needs very subtle interpretation and some of the linguists are able to

00:09:15.760 offer visions at least partly valuable but the general conception has to be

00:09:25.720 reconstructed by appropriate philosophic analysis and if you would like me to do

00:09:32.980 that I'll give you my reconstruction and praise yourself Zarathustra offers a view

00:09:41.120 of the world in terms of certain abstract concepts, which as was traditional in those

00:09:49.880 days, I mean throughout the world, religious poetry personalised abstract concepts, and

00:09:58.620 he does that.

00:10:01.040 The creation that Aura Mazda thought of, it was in his mind and he articulated it and

00:10:15.600 I'm just going to also say that apparently this live stream is attracting a lot of trolls

00:10:23.960 and a lot of like the jihadis and Islamists. 0.84

00:10:27.120 So I'm taking a zero tolerance approach. So yeah, like if you say anything inappropriate, 1.00

00:10:33.380 I'm just going to ban you. Like I'm having zero tolerance. I have zero patience tonight

00:10:37.920 for jihadis or like trolls, because this is just, this is a live stream where we learn about 0.83

00:10:47.220 Zoroastrianism. And if that triggers you to the point where you feel like, you know, you have to

00:10:53.880 say like i don't know or you know whatever jihadi islamic nonsense um you'll just be banned 0.99

00:11:01.000 you'll just be banned like it's that's all i'm gonna say made it an ideal creation not material 0.93

00:11:08.200 but ideal now that is called asha literally that word means truth but the notion of truth

00:11:20.520 here is a very special one truth really means the totality of the vision of ideal existence

00:11:34.040 it doesn't mean in our ordinary sense the truth or falsity of a statement

00:11:41.240 the truth that he is talking about is the relationship of all things in perfect harmony

00:11:50.520 so that nothing occurs at the expense of something else there is no friction in that existence

00:12:00.360 this um so ahmed abdullah says that what i'm uttering is pure nonsense um you don't want me

00:12:11.660 to translate what abdul actually means because we iranians we know what abdul means so um yeah

00:12:19.980 you don't you don't want me to translate what your last name means um in english for everyone

00:12:24.060 else because that would be considered islamophobic but you can take your abdul somewhere else thank

00:12:29.980 you ideal world of zarathustra asha was then actualized in the material world

00:12:42.700 our master in his wisdom conceived of it so jane says goldie did you know that the three wise men

00:12:53.040 that visited jesus's birth were zoroastrian i learned that from a video last night yes

00:12:58.400 absolutely i actually did know that i've commented on that briefly in my previous live streams i'm

00:13:04.860 actually working on making a short video um in the next few days about how the three wise men

00:13:12.200 who visited Jesus Christ and honored him when he was born were Persian Zoroastrians, the Magi.

00:13:19.720 Yeah, they were. They were. Fun fact. 1.00

00:13:25.320 Perfect existence in purely ideal terms. And this is what is called Asha, the truth.

00:13:33.880 The truth then means an ideal form of existence where nothing is in conflict or in abrasion

00:13:47.380 with anything else.

00:13:50.240 It is also the notion of social justice.

00:13:55.580 No one prospers at the cost of somebody's injury.

00:14:02.520 Now this ideal conception exists in an ideal world, what we might call the mental world.

00:14:10.100 The term is Mainyu, which exactly the source of the word is the word which in English we

00:14:18.480 have mind.

00:14:20.300 Now this ideal conception, Aura Mazda, then created into a material world.

00:14:31.840 This is called the Gaitia world.

00:14:35.420 And the ideal world was supposed to be materialized, actualized in matter.

00:14:46.680 There would be, of course, material objects, physical objects, there would be animal life,

00:14:52.600 there would be human life, and so on, and it was supposed to evolve according to Asha

00:14:59.500 a state of total perfection however and here comes the essential dualist doctrine of zarathustra

00:15:10.780 within this material world there is also the possibility that the usher may not be actualized

00:15:21.020 indeed Zarathustra says there are two forces I use the term vectors but often

00:15:30.780 the term spirit is used but we shouldn't transform these into personalities there 0.62

00:15:37.640 is the spirit which promotes Asha and there is the spirit which opposes

00:15:43.360 frustrates Asha and this is the dualism between good and evil the

00:15:50.560 The universe is to be understood as a potentially ideal evolution which has been contaminated 0.53

00:16:01.740 by internal opposition and frustration.

00:16:07.600 The world is to be looked at as a moral reality in which there is the movement towards goodness

00:16:16.320 But there is also the movement towards frustration.

00:16:21.220 Now, this vision is the central religious vision of Zarathustra.

00:16:28.820 And if one doesn't accept that, one cannot accept the faith of Zarathustra.

00:16:35.540 Now, what is the individual to do?

00:16:38.780 Here come the different abstractions of Zarathustra.

00:16:43.640 each individual is gifted with the good mind it's not just the mind which enables us to

00:16:51.720 work out mathematical problems or something like that but the mind which is capable of grasping

00:17:00.760 the moral nature of things when you see something in occurring in your society

00:17:08.360 you recognize that this much is fair and this is unfair as one of the later priests said

00:17:17.060 it is not conceivable that a human being can look at the face of injustice and not recognize it

00:17:26.220 so we recognize it when we recognize it then we should articulate it and commit ourselves to

00:17:36.000 improvement we discuss it with people whose lives will be affected we formulate a way of

00:17:47.360 actualizing the good to whatever extent we can and then we do it and this is repeated in a phrase

00:17:57.040 which comes in prayers all over it's called the practice of good thought good word and good deed

00:18:04.480 See, there is no such thing as a good deed without good thought, because in the tradition

00:18:11.880 of Zarathustra, there are no prescriptions, do this, don't do that, and so on.

00:18:17.520 You are left to think through what should be done.

00:18:21.800 The responsibility is yours.

00:18:24.800 This acceptance of this responsibility becomes the way of life, and you have the view of

00:18:32.600 the world the world is a moral reality your way of life act with good thought

00:18:41.120 good words and good deeds and you have accepted the doctrine of Zarathustra

00:18:49.280 now the interesting thing here is contrary to the tribal notion this is a

00:18:58.040 decision to accept this way of life this vision and this way of life is a purely individual matter

00:19:07.160 in one of the verses of the gatha sarashtra says i talk to each of you listen with care and with

00:19:16.520 careful thought and make a judgment each individual by individual man and woman

00:19:23.720 why does he say this he distinguishes it from the tribal conception where each

00:19:30.740 individual didn't think for himself or herself the tribe made the decision if

00:19:36.140 you're a member of the tribe that's what you did but here each one is asked to

00:19:41.100 make the decision and each one is asked to bear the responsibility for that

00:19:46.960 decision you choose to live in this way or you don't and thus what we have is a

00:19:55.060 shift from the tribal to the individual which has sometimes been called the

00:20:00.800 the first enlightenment and recognition that you have to take the

00:20:07.240 responsibility for what you do and this is at the heart of it it must have been

00:20:15.100 a very strikingly different teaching. To us, it appears rationally clear, but in a tribal

00:20:25.340 society, this appears strange. 0.55

00:20:32.660 Before Zaratushra, humans had a deterministic view of the world. They thought that each

00:20:39.000 person had their destiny preset and their future was predetermined and it seems after his arrival

00:20:48.680 we started um gathering the notion um i also just want to share a video with you let me um

00:20:57.960 let me

00:20:58.200 let me just pull it up. I want to share a video with you about Zoroastrianism. It's very, very

00:21:14.220 short. So despite the terrorist Islamic dictatorship trying to eradicate various 1.00

00:21:25.320 religions and ethnic minorities, Zoroastrians have managed to survive and somehow fight back

00:21:36.020 against persecution. And in fact, there's this one very, very viral video of a sacred Zoroastrian

00:21:46.380 fire that has been burning for longer than Islam has existed. Okay. So here you go. This is, 0.71

00:21:56.240 this is a Zoroastrian fire from a Zoroastrian temple in Yazd. And, you know, I just want to say 0.96

00:22:04.740 a lot of the, you know, Islamists and jihadis and, you know, low IQ inbred goat people, 0.92

00:22:10.860 when they want to insult Iranians, they'll claim that we worship fire. We don't worship fire. 0.91

00:22:19.280 Fire is a representation of light and purity. And the shadow is a representation of darkness

00:22:28.160 and evil. So it's very, you know, it's just very interesting to me how, you know, these jihadis

00:22:36.200 will accuse Iranians of being fire worshipers. And yet, you know, these people go to Mecca,

00:22:42.660 and they, you know, walk around like a black cube. And then they like fight to go and like 0.93

00:22:49.060 kiss this, like, this meteorite stone, right? So these people literally worship a meteorite.

00:22:56.000 But then they accuse Iranians of being fire worshipers, because they just don't understand

00:23:01.320 that no, it's not fire worship. The fire symbolizes the light and purity of the divinity.

00:23:11.120 And yeah, there is a very big population of Zoroastrians in India. That's because during 1.00

00:23:18.260 the Arab Muslim invasion of Persia, many Zoroastrians fled and they actually found refuge

00:23:25.560 amongst the Hindus. So the Hindus basically allowed Zoroastrians to go there and continue 0.94

00:23:33.840 their religion. So here's a video from Iran. This is like a viral video that's gone viral 0.94

00:23:39.760 amongst Iranians. It's an older one, but it's a good one. So here you go. 1.00

00:23:55.560 I love you, France,

00:24:01.560 I love you,

00:24:05.560 I love you,

00:24:11.560 I love you,

00:24:17.560 I love you,

00:24:21.560 What!

00:24:25.220 Christ at the heart

00:24:28.860 What!

00:24:31.180 potencial

00:24:34.940 What!

00:24:37.320 How-dad

00:24:40.520 Dushi-tay-tay-tay-tay-tay-tay-tay-tay-tay-tay-tay-tay-tay-tay-tay-tay-tay-tay-tay-tay-tay-tay-tay-tay awa-oh.

00:24:50.320 there you go um i also haven't yet made a video about this but i will in the future

00:25:11.840 Zoroastrianism is the second fastest growing religion in occupied Iran after Christianity. 0.98

00:25:21.320 So Christianity is the first one. 0.95

00:25:24.240 Zoroastrianism is the second one.

00:25:26.540 So here's a video of people in Iran, in occupied Iran, going to learn about Zoroastrianism.

00:25:41.840 .

00:26:11.840 people asking about the song that's actually um rammstein here come the sun which is basically

00:26:37.760 here comes the sun. So very, very like fitting song for that video talking about Zoroastrianism.

00:26:46.300 For those who say that you can't convert to Zoroastrianism, you actually can. So

00:26:51.080 it's a myth that you can't convert. I'll tell you the history behind it. So when Zoroastrians

00:26:59.600 were escaping the Arab Muslim invaders and they went to India and they found refuge amongst the 0.79

00:27:07.060 Hindus, the Hindus said, you're more than welcome to, you know, stay in our lands. And, you know,

00:27:13.480 you have full freedom to practice your religion. All we ask of you is that you don't proselytize.

00:27:19.960 So don't convert Hindus into Zoroastrians. Other than that, you're free to do what you want. 0.96

00:27:25.440 So the Parsis, as they're now known in India, so the Parsis, they do not accept converts because

00:27:33.860 they respect that agreement that they made with the Hindus 1,400 years ago when they sought refuge

00:27:45.820 in the Hindu empire. However, everywhere else, you can convert. Conversion is allowed. So many

00:27:54.780 people in occupied Iran are converting to Zoroastrianism. Even in countries outside of

00:28:01.160 Iran people are also converting to Zoroastrianism. So it's only the Parsis in India that do not 1.00

00:28:08.620 accept converts out of respect for the fact that the Hindus gave them refuge. So I just wanted to 0.99

00:28:16.300 point that out as well. I will talk about the Baha'i faith as well in a future video. The

00:28:26.560 Baha'is are extremely persecuted even more than the Jewish people. Um, it's like the Baha'is, 1.00

00:28:34.260 it's, it's a terrible situation for them. Um, I will speak about that in, in a future live stream 1.00

00:28:39.580 for sure. But tonight's live stream is just about Zoroastrianism. So there you go. That's a little,

00:28:45.020 couple of videos, um, about Zoroastrianism and, you know, it's just such a beautiful,

00:28:50.500 beautiful religion, you know, good thoughts, good words, good deeds. And, uh, yeah. All right,

00:28:55.400 let's let's continue that we are in control of our future and that we are free and that we can

00:29:02.440 shape the future according to our own will in the garthas there are two places where he talks about

00:29:09.640 this uh um our making responsible decisions freely in one case he says that our mazda made us

00:29:20.920 us such that he gave us this privilege of thinking and deciding and being responsible

00:29:32.660 for the decision but the individual um so to the chat yes i'm iranian and yes freddie

00:29:40.600 mercury was in fact a zoroastrian that's true freddie freddie mercury was a zoroastrian

00:29:45.640 Individuals' existence was so caught up with the notion of tribal existence that there

00:29:54.220 was really no individuality.

00:29:58.360 Everything was done in the tribe, the tribe controlled the families, the families controlled

00:30:03.300 the individuals, and you see tribal life today in certain regions.

00:30:14.040 have the idea of asha and its opposite which is the rouge um and then

00:30:24.760 we have the idea of free will so there's this right and wrong right sorry so for the people

00:30:31.080 asking about nietzsche um i don't know if he was if he fully converted to zoroastrianism

00:30:38.360 but he did use zoroastrianism um as sort of a baseline for his philosophical

00:30:47.080 um debates and and critiques right so so nietzsche was um

00:30:54.440 i don't know if he officially converted but he was very familiar with it and he he he did use

00:31:00.760 that as um the baseline for for his philosophical critiques the situation and we freely choose one

00:31:09.480 of these and then you have reward and punishment which is the consequence of the choice um

00:31:20.120 and based on the reward and punishment we judge that we judge what i like this

00:31:26.280 outcome not this so we're constantly judging our actions based on whether i desire the outcome or

00:31:35.240 not and i guess that will ultimately lead into what people have become to understand as a final

00:31:43.720 judgment how did i conduct my life accumulating adding all of these rights and wrongs and going

00:31:52.840 to immortality this is i guess how we get the idea or the notion of heaven and hell

00:31:59.000 what is this idea of the final judgment is this judgment something we render upon ourselves

00:32:08.360 do we judge ourselves at the end or is there some deity that judges develop this notion right from

00:32:17.240 the start we human individuals look at various circumstances of our lives and make decisions

00:32:29.960 we see alternatives of action and we choose one how this choice is made is an important thing

00:32:38.280 is it made with the good mind with good intentions with good thought now what does this good thought

00:32:46.760 mean that you recognize a situation you see that in some way it is flawed

00:32:55.880 you notice that it is flawed because it is in some way distinct from what it ideally should be

00:33:04.680 which your good mind is capable of seeing then that should be the only reason that is called

00:33:14.200 righteousness to do the right thing merely because it is right and that's a very famous

00:33:21.880 prayer which everyone recites that that will give me ultimately my satisfaction to do the right thing

00:33:31.560 because it is right what is evil evil is that intention which violates that

00:33:40.520 which gets you to do something for some reason other than that it is right,

00:33:47.400 some self-promotion or something else. One of the priests of the later Sassanian period said

00:33:56.600 that all our thoughts, if they are kept pure, will tell us what the right thing is.

00:34:05.640 then why don't we do it his son asked the high priest why don't we do this

00:34:12.360 and the high priest says because our mind is clouded

00:34:19.720 it is clouded by mainly by two forces greed and fear

00:34:29.320 when these move us then we look for self-interest we put that above the

00:34:37.540 interest of the right and fail to act correctly well in that case we have

00:34:46.300 failed in our responsibility these all these acts of doing the right thing for

00:34:53.960 the right reason, doing the right thing out of some accidental judgment, doing the wrong

00:35:01.740 thing for the wrong reason, or doing the wrong thing accidentally and so on, all this is

00:35:08.900 so to speak collected in a book of accounts.

00:35:13.900 And when the soul goes to the other side of the gates of death, and now we come to a kind

00:35:23.200 of a dramatic vision, it comes to the bridge of the separator.

00:35:30.100 And then on this bridge, it accounts all the good is put on one side, and all the evil

00:35:40.960 and the opportunities for good that were lost are put on the other side.

00:35:48.040 And if the good outweighs the evil, you cross the bridge into the state of best consciousness.

00:35:57.660 If not, you fall off the bridge into the state of worst consciousness.

00:36:05.120 These became heaven and hell later on.

00:36:08.000 These are states of consciousness of our spirit.

00:36:13.160 are not holes where we live in comfort and so on that's a highly materialist conception of heaven

00:36:23.420 and hell chilo i'm just gonna like i'm gonna leave your comment there on top because yeah it's wild

00:36:31.320 that people are like why can't no one convert to zoroastrians i've like literally explained it 10

00:36:36.200 times so um i'm just gonna leave your comment there on top for everyone to see um literally

00:36:42.440 anyone can convert to Zoroastrianism, Google is

00:36:46.560 free. Yeah. 0.90

00:36:49.760 But the conception that there are

00:36:53.820 two different ends

00:36:57.640 for differently

00:37:00.380 valued souls is part of the doctrine.

00:37:06.820 And this, you don't appeal for mercy,

00:37:10.420 you don't plead for this or that it is the consequence of your life the moral

00:37:16.960 consequence of your life appears in the state that you go into after you die

00:37:27.860 going back to this heaven and hell the idea of heaven and hell we later on we

00:37:36.060 developed the idea of satan or the devil um character so to say chilo's a she oh my gosh

00:37:46.700 okay so now now i know why chilo is so ruthless and savage because i mean you you think you think

00:37:55.820 iranian men are intense like iranian men are here and iranian women are like up there like not even 0.71

00:38:04.940 here it's like up there so yeah of course like like of course like now it now it makes perfect

00:38:12.060 perfect sense so there we go amazing cello i love you you're you're the best like just

00:38:19.260 keep on being ruthless um you are the real queen so yeah just we love you we love you

00:38:26.620 say and um in the restaurant is oh my gosh okay

00:38:35.900 okay give me give me a moment because i want to make sure where's chilo's message here

00:38:43.500 um where is it where is it i just want to okay here we go i'm gonna start chilo's message

00:38:50.460 so that i can get back to it because we do have um a super chat so mordred says i like what

00:38:58.960 mechanics wear overall thank you thank you for the dad joke

00:39:06.220 it has nothing to do with um zoroastrianism but uh i i appreciate you know what i'm always a fan

00:39:16.540 of like you know pg rated dad humor so that's a good one thank you thank you for sharing that

00:39:24.220 i like what mechanics were overall that was that was great thank you and as you mentioned we have

00:39:32.540 this um sapenta menu and the angra menu to the evil spirit and the holy spirit or evil mentality or

00:39:44.060 good mentality um is is the satan a personification then of this ungram mind you exactly or the

00:39:55.980 the unholy spirit yes you see what happens in every religion in every teaching of the

00:40:07.020 initial prophet there is a spiritual message gradually the spiritual message is promulgated

00:40:16.220 to the people by the priesthood and the priesthood required the people to do this and that and so on

00:40:23.020 rituals of various kind and the message is mythologically degraded into standard stories

00:40:34.620 of divine forces which look human we already had standard greek mythology standard

00:40:45.020 babylonian mythology standard egyptian mythology but with these reflective religions like

00:40:53.660 like Zoroastrianism, the teaching of Zarathustra, or the Upanishadic religion, which come at

00:41:04.220 the end of the Vedas, or the certain prophetic prescriptions in the Old Testament, the book

00:41:14.780 of Isaiah, for example, where you have abstract commitments which are demanded of the religious 0.94

00:41:21.900 i mean um so to all the trolls and islamists in the chat in the youtube chat who are complaining 0.95

00:41:30.220 about how this is boring um i mean if you want i'm more than happy to play a documentary talking 0.89

00:41:37.300 about how muhammad the warlord raped a nine-year-old girl um because he felt like it i mean i i could

00:41:44.340 do that if you want like if you want something more interesting and spicy i'm more than up for 0.98

00:41:50.040 sharing videos about how Muhammad the warlord raped women and you know was a pedophile so 0.88

00:41:56.540 I mean we can we can watch this or we can learn about you know how Muhammad the warlord is a 0.97

00:42:03.660 pedophile so your choice your choice here person but the priesthood gradually humanizes them and 0.64

00:42:13.440 And now you do this, you pray to so-and-so, you do this and that.

00:42:18.520 And there's a ritual, and as Bam Slug once said, the priests have to construct rituals

00:42:30.820 because they are by profession technologists.

00:42:33.860 There's a technique of communicating with the divinity.

00:42:41.200 One day I was in a discussion, someone asked me, what do you need this technique for?

00:42:47.280 And I said, this is a technique for getting into the good graces of the divinity,

00:42:54.080 asking for this and that.

00:42:57.520 So this person said, tell me precisely what this technique does. And I said, well, actually,

00:43:04.800 I can't do that because this is a kind of the technology of beggary.

00:43:11.200 We asked him to give me this, give me better health, save my son, and so on.

00:43:19.640 But that's popular.

00:43:22.100 Max Weber, in his Sociology of Religion, says that with most prophets,

00:43:29.720 the religious vision is given and offered by a charismatic character.

00:43:38.380 who makes this believable and then gradually this person disappears and the priesthood then

00:43:48.560 and I'm now using the word of Max Weber the priesthood develops the ritualization of charisma

00:43:57.520 and the chapter ends with this

00:44:04.560 phrase. It may well be that in the end

00:44:10.440 the priest becomes the enemy of the prophet.

00:44:18.780 Now that's not always the case but often

00:44:21.620 but the priest transforms the religious vision

00:44:26.940 into techniques and practices

00:44:29.780 and mythology.

00:44:33.680 Satan is the mythologization

00:44:36.640 of that force

00:44:38.600 in opposition to Asher.

00:44:41.560 And then he became a person

00:44:43.460 and then there were all sorts of stories about him

00:44:46.280 and so on.

00:44:49.740 Now I want to switch the subject

00:44:52.780 to Greek philosophy

00:44:55.300 And as to Herodotus, the Greek historian, for example, writes and states that the Zoroastrians taught their children three things.

00:45:09.040 One is horse riding, the use of bow and arrow, and speaking the truth. 0.92

00:45:15.840 Did this culture of truth come down from the Zoroastrian days?

00:45:23.100 Oh, yes, without any doubt.

00:45:25.300 But the notion becomes degraded because one often thinks of speaking the truth as merely not telling lies.

00:45:37.220 But that is not the essence of the faith.

00:45:39.500 The essence of the faith is grasping a deeper ideal reality.

00:45:46.520 That's what understanding or grasping the truth is.

00:45:51.360 For example, if you ask me, how many cups of coffee did you drink this morning, and I say one, when in fact I had two, I'm telling you a falsehood.

00:46:08.180 But that's not the kind of lie that Zarathustra is talking about.

00:46:14.200 He's talking about the sort of thing in which I see that so-and-so has been treated unjustly.

00:46:21.360 and someone says what do you think of this treatment and I would say

00:46:25.800 something like well this is usually the way it is done I have lived long in the

00:46:31.140 academic life and I know that's the usual way administrators put it well

00:46:36.360 that's how it's always done and I once told the president in a situation which

00:46:42.600 I think somebody was very unfairly terminated and I said here is a

00:46:49.020 a competent person, a person wishes to teach her. He has done nothing wrong. What has happened

00:46:55.980 is that he is in a kind of a program that we don't want to promote. And I said, he's prepared

00:47:05.340 to teach in an analogous one. And the president, this is how it's usually done. And I said,

00:47:15.960 but so i've seen a lot of comments from people who are saying that they're new to my channel

00:47:22.520 they just subscribed today this is their first live stream just wanted to say welcome um thank

00:47:27.880 you for joining um thank you for being here just wanted to give you a little bit of a heads up so

00:47:34.680 my main live streams where i talk about politics islamic terrorism the middle east and you know

00:47:41.640 issues of the day relating to jihad and Islam and all that stuff. That's, I do that weekdays

00:47:48.840 at 12 noon Eastern time. And then in the evenings, which is right now in the evenings, usually

00:47:54.860 I'll find a documentary about a topic that's of interest to me, whether it's about Iran or,

00:48:02.560 you know, like Islam or history or something or religion. And I'll just live stream it. So

00:48:08.500 basically my evening live streams are way more chill. It's more of a learning opportunity for

00:48:14.180 me. And this is something that I would like kind of watch on my own and live stream on my TV or

00:48:21.260 like broadcast on my TV and watch there. But I, you know, a few times I just kind of, instead of

00:48:29.700 watching it by myself on my TV, I decided to live stream it. And then there was an interest from

00:48:33.940 people and my followers to continue doing these live streams so that's what my evening live

00:48:40.580 streams are it's less about like the you know uh it's less about current events and it's more just

00:48:48.180 you know learning opportunity and you know we can like watch different things um that are not

00:48:54.100 necessarily about islamic terrorism and jihad but you know kind of related in a way so um tonight

00:49:02.580 the topic is, of course, Zoroastrianism, because a lot of people, especially in my daily live

00:49:07.960 streams, they ask me about religion and they want to know more about Zoroastrianism. So that's why

00:49:14.220 I'm playing this. So yeah, this is definitely more chill. The evening live streams are way more chill

00:49:22.220 and they're less on topic. You know, I play various documentaries from various topics.

00:49:30.400 so yeah that's so if you're wondering that's that's what's going on right now um but you

00:49:36.300 definitely want to catch like my my daily live streams at 12 noon eastern if you want to you

00:49:43.320 know get more sort of like relevant topics related um to the day but you know welcome always always

00:49:50.920 great to see uh new people here and thank you for subscribing and thank you for the support

00:49:56.420 The president just recognized what is happening to this person.

00:50:01.740 He is not being treated justly.

00:50:06.200 And he said, well, you know, administration implies certain rules and regulations.

00:50:13.060 I said, if the rules and regulations are such that they lead to injustice,

00:50:19.180 something should be done.

00:50:22.260 He looked at me and laughed.

00:50:24.180 He said, well, what sort of a fellow are you to talk in this way?

00:50:30.760 But the amazing thing was about a week or ten, about ten or twelve days later, he told me,

00:50:37.140 you know, I've been thinking about what you said.

00:50:40.280 Maybe we'll put him in this other department, talk to him and so on.

00:50:45.680 I mean, here was a president in whom the spirit of righteousness resonated, and we could talk this way.

00:50:58.560 Oh my gosh, are we going to start this again?

00:51:03.200 So Johnny says, they are assuming you're Islam, no, it's Mossad, all hail the king.

00:51:09.520 yeah um we're all massad everyone in this channel is massad um i'm actually ai generated

00:51:19.160 so i'm not even a real person i'm literally an ai generated like just massad channel so there you go

00:51:25.620 this is the notion of truth

00:51:29.920 philosophy originated about 4 000 years ago with the indo-iranians and this is according to

00:51:40.080 to everyone asking in the chat if you can be massad yes um if you have to if you have to ask

00:51:47.600 whether or not you could be beside you you just you're pretty much massad at this point like

00:51:52.780 we're we're just we're all massad we're all massad oxford university's chronology of philosophers

00:52:00.860 also um many greek philosophers used to live in the zoroastrian territory and obtain their

00:52:09.800 education in the zoroastrian territory of the ancient times are there secret handshakes for

00:52:17.480 myself um i don't know like the only like i don't even know how to do it the secret handshake

00:52:26.760 but that would be like the iranian secret like you know the bishkan so the bishkan would be

00:52:33.120 like the savok secret handshake right so i guess i guess i could say i'm savok right because then

00:52:39.840 i would do like the you know like the iranians do like the snapping fingers thing so even though i

00:52:46.360 can't do it so it's terrible but i i have to practice my bishkan um yeah but if if you have

00:52:54.180 to ask whether or not you're massad you're massad that's fine you you can you're all you're all

00:52:59.360 massad the iranians and the indo-iranians the predecessors to the greek philosophy and when

00:53:08.100 they became came into contact with each other how did they influence the greek thought and thinking

00:53:14.940 Oh, yes. Well, the earliest visions we have in the Iliad and the Odyssey and so on is a tribal religion, as all the Indo-European religions were, where they're tribal gods, and you have to placate the tribal gods to manage to lead a successful life.

00:53:36.680 The gods were so utterly human that they were not above trickery among themselves.

00:53:45.680 And so you had to know that and play along.

00:53:49.680 But that view was transformed and certainly transformed by Socrates,

00:53:55.680 who said that there was such a thing as right and wrong.

00:53:58.680 And how do you get that? By thought, human thought.

00:54:03.680 And how do tribal societies flourish?

00:54:11.680 They flourish by tradition.

00:54:13.680 This is our tradition.

00:54:15.680 Why are you doing this?

00:54:17.680 Well, that has been the tradition.

00:54:19.680 Our ancestors did it.

00:54:21.680 Our parents did it.

00:54:23.680 We do it.

00:54:24.680 That notion, that tradition was unacceptable to Socrates.

00:54:31.560 in the dialogue euthyphro euthyphro it's a it's an ironic dialogue this is the last year

00:54:40.200 of the life of socrates and beautiful is a 25 year old um to the person who asked um if israel

00:54:49.160 is the bad guys right now if you think that israel is the bad guys you're literally in the wrong

00:54:54.600 chat like you're in the in the wrong live stream i suggest you leave um before you further embarrass

00:55:02.120 yourself because um this is not a jihadi chat this is not um a pro-hamas chat whatsoever

00:55:09.560 um i think ballastine is fake i think the two-state solution was when trans trans palestine

00:55:18.760 was carved out into jordan and israel so i think that the two-state solution was already created

00:55:24.600 um when the you know the country of jordan was created i think all of judea and samaria belong

00:55:31.920 to israel i also think gaza just belongs to israel and i think if you know people want the

00:55:38.220 two-state solution they could just go to jordan because that's literally what it is so uh if you

00:55:42.960 don't agree with that you're in the wrong channel go find like i don't know some like pro hamas

00:55:49.580 channel and just, you know, go talk about your terrorism jihad stuff.

00:55:54.460 Hello, who has received instructions in the temple, and he says, Oh, I've learned all about piety.

00:56:03.340 I know whatever there is to know about it. Socrates says, let's examine that. What is piety?

00:56:10.700 And so piety is doing what the gods wish, and not doing what the gods don't wish.

00:56:15.980 And Socrates says, is this an adequate definition?

00:56:23.500 And Yusuf Rohr says, yes, of course it is, that's what's taught.

00:56:27.940 And Socrates says, yes, that may well be, but shouldn't we examine it?

00:56:33.360 That's the matter, that the human being takes upon himself or herself the authority to examine

00:56:44.160 what is given by tradition." And the traditionalists are horrified at that idea. Who are you to

00:56:53.100 examine something which has come to us from immemorial tradition? I've been told that

00:57:00.180 by some of the Zoroastrians who don't like my views, who are traditionalists. And I said,

00:57:06.060 I have nothing against tradition, but I think we should examine it. They said, who are we

00:57:12.780 to examine we are rational human beings we need no additional authority and so you know what the 0.99

00:57:24.060 mods are just oh my gosh the mod you know i'm telling you guys like iranians ruthless savage 0.50

00:57:31.060 so let me just share this let me share a message by gandalf um middle earth is more real than

00:57:38.180 ballastine it has more culture beauty arts languages and majesty yeah you are you're a

00:57:44.580 hundred percent right middle earth is more real and actually has more history and more writings

00:57:51.860 and like everything than than ballastine yeah 100 right 100 right they say well you know the church

00:58:02.260 at one time the catholic church at one time considered this attitude to be an act of pride

00:58:13.140 a major sin gradually that has been restrained oh well but you see this is what we face

00:58:23.620 and as you point out that notion of free will is not just a separate notion of

00:58:33.940 determinism free will the moment you introduce the notion of free will you

00:58:39.460 introduce the right to examine I was reading a book by Ruhi Afnan called

00:58:51.280 Zoroaster's influence on Anaxagoras, the Greek tragedians and Socrates and he on page 33 he

00:59:01.840 emphasizes that Anaxagoras being I guess a teacher of the Greek tragedy and Socrates emphasized

00:59:11.200 to be skeptic and to freely think that's right and that's the culture exactly to to have the

00:59:20.000 absolute freedom to inquire and question yes yes this is the enlightenment that's the concept of

00:59:29.360 the enlightenment in the 18th century this was raised by the french uh philosophes by the english

00:59:40.720 social writers, and by Immanuel Kant in Germany, where he wrote an essay. In German, was ist

00:59:52.000 aufklärung? What is the Enlightenment? And he says the Enlightenment is the view where you accept,

01:00:01.600 and it has a Latin phrase, sapere aude. Sapere meaning thought. Aude is the same word as audacity.

01:00:19.240 It means have the courage to think. Have the courage to think on your own and having done

01:00:27.640 that you recognize that you have the right to think but that's not the only part because it

01:00:34.600 then it follows that you also have the response um so someone came in the chat and said she is on

01:00:43.560 u.s state department's payroll first of all i'm canadian so um i mean at least get your countries 0.72

01:00:50.360 right and then they said she is a pig fake person only hating on iran for money so my response to 0.77

01:00:58.520 this person is um 0.96

01:01:20.360 the ability to judge carefully i see this is the and these are so strange position was the first one

01:01:31.800 the same emerged in someone wants me to say i love you guys in persian okay so

01:01:37.800 So, I really like all of you, and I really like you to know that you are in this live chat

01:01:44.800 and you can help me with you.

01:01:47.800 Let's know.

01:02:07.800 part of his work was influenced by zoroastrianism in what context or can you shed some light how

01:02:17.560 zoroastrianism influenced middle platonic work and there was great works and pieces in there

01:02:24.840 such as the republic can you tell us a little bit about this please the one idea which is

01:02:35.480 characteristic of the singing okay is this guys is it gonna turn into like just me

01:02:42.520 translating phrases from english into farsi or are we actually gonna like

01:02:47.240 learn something about the raster okay i'll do one more i'll do one more and i'm only gonna do this

01:02:53.000 one because um i think this person is canadian so to the person who said um what was it something

01:03:03.000 about winnipeg wait where was it where was it um let me scroll back here oh no the chat's moving

01:03:09.000 too fast um something about can you say you like winnipeg winters um okay so i i will say that in

01:03:17.080 Persian. So, there you go.

01:03:25.160 Zarathustra is this existence in two realms. The existence, which is a mental existence,

01:03:36.440 the minor existence as it is called in the Gothic, and the material or the tangible existence

01:03:46.120 called the Gaitiya and this distinction that we as human beings possessing a

01:03:57.760 mind can grasp mental existences independently of perceiving their

01:04:05.400 actualizations in this world and also perceiving objects in the material world

01:04:13.680 this separation of two realms which we find in Zarathustra we find in Plato

01:04:22.400 Plato called this grasping of the essences which were in the ideal world

01:04:29.860 the world of ideas that a capacity is called noose and that grasping is the

01:04:38.700 act of noises and this is certainly it appears nowhere it appears in zarathustra

01:04:46.780 and it appears in plato then it appears later on in european thinking and that's always called

01:04:54.780 platonic thinking but this is so characteristic a a theme that many people think that plato

01:05:06.620 Sorry, so the person who asked if this live stream is live. No, this is not live. This is pre-recorded. I'm just using AI to predict the comments that people put in the live stream. That's why I'm able to respond. I'm using AI to predict future comments. But this is a pre-recorded video that you're watching.

01:05:29.500 I was informed of it in some form or other by the Greeks who lived in Asia Minor, which was a province of the Persian Empire, and where there were fire temples and major teachers of the faith.

01:05:46.640 I don't know to what extent Plato was influenced by it, but I think he must have heard of it.

01:05:57.760 And then he was inspired by it and produced his own conception, which is a very interesting

01:06:05.520 one.

01:06:06.760 You don't get the idea of justice by looking at just acts and unjust acts.

01:06:13.140 make the distinction between justice and injustice by grasping the idea of justice and seeing to what

01:06:20.660 extent it's actualized zartusha's view of the world materialistic or or did he believe in this

01:06:29.060 duality of material and the non-material similar to what you just explained about plato

01:06:37.540 that whether it's the soul or the mind that would tend to separate their tourism

01:06:44.820 he definitely had these two realms the minor world and the

01:06:52.740 gaitia world

01:06:56.580 but he didn't have the notion of a different kind of reality implanted in matter

01:07:06.580 I think we do have souls, and the soul then is judged by its worth, moral worth, dainah.

01:07:22.460 And the soul is, after death, is known as the urwan.

01:07:29.880 And that is clearly the soul.

01:07:33.420 that he has a notion of existence of material existence and a non-material existence and is

01:07:42.060 this the duality later on that Descartes tries to further articulate but in terms of mind

01:07:50.060 same thing that has dominated philosophy

01:07:55.180 as xenophon state cyrus the great so for those of you who were mentioning in the live stream how

01:08:05.340 cyrus the great was or astrian here we go let's see what let's see what he has to say about cyrus

01:08:11.500 the great so for those of you who don't know cyrus the great um is the founder of the persian empire

01:08:19.820 The ancient Zoroastrian king was a Mazda worshipper, which means a wisdom worshipper.

01:08:26.780 Who was responsible for the education of the Zoroastrian kings in the field of wisdom?

01:08:33.260 Oh, yes. What happened was that the Medes and the Persians got together, two separate tribes, 1.00

01:08:42.300 of the uh whole set of iranian tribes and they they got together with the

01:08:53.580 father or the father-in-law of cyrus

01:08:59.900 who was a mean and cyrus married his daughter cyrus was a persian

01:09:05.340 They got together and then a church was established, which was the Church of the

01:09:12.300 Achaemenian Empire. And the Medes were the organizers, the administrative priests 0.90

01:09:24.420 and the ritual priests and the Aetrepats were the the teachers and they were

01:09:37.440 usually Guavian and they taught the Gothic message. To the emperors and the

01:09:44.400 kings at that time? Yes and also I suppose to the more literate public but

01:09:54.300 also to the general public it was a very enlightened population in those days and the

01:10:02.460 fact that they absorbed this message we can see in their inscriptions and in their practices

01:10:11.260 many scholars claim cyrus was one of zartusha's disciples and also in the bible we see the name

01:10:20.460 of cyrus is the anointed one and a savior in what context is he known to be the savior in the bible

01:10:32.220 can you articulate and elaborate this notion for us please this is what happened cyrus was

01:10:40.380 he viewed himself as a world ruler to establish the

01:10:49.420 kshatra that means the authority the dominion which would organize the world according to asha

01:10:59.820 and so he just walked into other empire other states and incorporate um so for

01:11:09.740 For those of you in the live stream on YouTube who are talking about the Anunnaki and how Ahura Mazda or the Far-Bahar with wings kind of reminds you of a space visitor.

01:11:22.560 Yes, there are theories about that.

01:11:26.600 I'm not going to get into that on this channel, even though I personally am a big fan of like, you know, watching like, like as a kid, I used to watch Ancient Aliens, like the TV series Ancient Aliens.

01:11:39.460 the history channel all the time so you know i'm a big fan of that i don't know if i believe it but

01:11:45.220 it's just it's fun right like i'm a big fan of sci-fi and stuff um so there are you know theories

01:11:50.420 out there but i'm not going to be playing any of those on on my channel because i you know i kind

01:11:58.420 of like to stick to facts and history um and stuff but yeah like there's there's a lot of you know

01:12:04.820 videos and theories out there about like the Anunnaki and stuff like that. But that's kind of

01:12:10.480 going like beyond the scope of of this channel. I'm not going to I'm not going to play Anunnaki 1.00

01:12:18.020 videos on my live stream, guys. No, no, no. This this live stream is about politics or this channel 1.00

01:12:24.640 is about politics, Middle East, things like that. You know, and in the evenings, like I said,

01:12:31.120 I do kind of live streams. I do live streams that, you know, are kind of related. So this is

01:12:38.240 related because this is about the history of Zoroastrianism and how that sort of influenced

01:12:44.260 the Persian Empire. But, you know, a theory about the Sumerians actually being half human,

01:12:54.500 and half-alien, that's way beyond the scope of this channel, so I'm not going to do it.

01:13:02.000 ...into what he called the good state. He did not impose any of his laws on him. Of 0.88

01:13:12.320 course, these people had to pay tax, naturally, to support the authority, and they had to

01:13:20.140 live by the national laws but the particular private laws were left to each group each state

01:13:28.860 the family laws were the laws of the people as they had them and he permitted them to have their

01:13:38.460 own religious temples religious practices and so on when he conquered babylon

01:13:47.100 Babylon was under a tyranny and many Babylonians themselves were agreeable to having him enter

01:13:56.520 Babylon. He entered with a minimal of military friction and one of the first things he did was

01:14:06.660 the jews were in babylonian captivity you know they had been conquered uh by uh

01:14:16.500 the grandfather of the king and brought to uh oh we have a super chat um

01:14:26.900 let me pull it up here so it's lovely that goldie is forever 20 something thank you i

01:14:34.740 that's that's a very nice comment um i'm actually 40 but but thank you i appreciate that very very

01:14:41.700 kind of you to say um i mean i don't i don't i don't i don't mind aging like you know i know a

01:14:46.900 lot of people are like worried about their age and getting older or whatever um it's never never

01:14:52.900 really bothered me um i don't i don't mind saying i'm 40 like it doesn't scare me or or anything

01:14:59.860 like that but um thank you belong the elite and they went to cyrus and said we are prisoners here

01:15:12.580 etc and cyrus freed them and they said we have to go back and we have to build our temple was

01:15:18.820 destroyed and so cyrus helped them to build the temple and their temple vessels had been

01:15:25.620 him confiscated by the Babylonians, he restored those to them. So the Jews said, here is someone

01:15:35.280 who is helping us, our tribe, and therefore he is sent by Jehovah to be our helper. And

01:15:44.720 they considered him as the anointed of the Lord.

01:15:50.060 Professor Richard Fry from Harvard University argues that Cyrus was the first person who

01:15:58.260 demonstrated the concept of separation of church and state. Sorry, to the person on Rumble who

01:16:07.240 asked me if I'm ever planning on getting back into Parliament, I don't know. I mean, not right

01:16:13.340 now. I was in politics for 10 years, literally from the age of 30 until the age of 40, I was

01:16:19.260 in politics. I was an elected official for seven years, literally just got out of politics back in

01:16:25.520 February. After 10 years of, you know, being a parliamentarian, I'm not going to lie. After 10

01:16:33.540 years, it's kind of nice to just be a private citizen and to just be free to say what I want

01:16:41.380 to say without having to answer to anyone. So I don't know if I'm ever going to get back into

01:16:46.660 politics in Canada, because unfortunately, Canada is way too politically correct.

01:16:54.040 And according to, you know, the progressive left or I don't know, whatever, I'm actually

01:17:01.500 a far right, white nationalist, Islamophobic xenophobe, even though I'm not white, I'm not

01:17:10.400 far right. Um, and you know, I'm an immigrant myself and I'm a victim of Islamic terrorism, 0.95

01:17:16.940 but the situation in Canada is so bad is that, you know, as an Iranian, when I speak the truth,

01:17:22.720 that's considered offensive. So, um, I don't know if I'm going to get back into politics. I feel

01:17:29.120 like, I feel like, um, I'm now, now that I'm out of politics, I actually have a platform to

01:17:38.600 share the truth without worrying about what anyone's going to say. And I kind of feel like

01:17:45.560 I've been given an opportunity to, um, really share my message. And the fact that my YouTube

01:17:52.740 channel has been growing so much and, you know, my videos on all my social media platforms are

01:17:58.660 going viral and they're getting, um, millions of views and they're being shared and downloaded and,

01:18:04.180 you know, uploaded and other people are sharing it as well. Um, I feel like I've been given an

01:18:09.240 opportunity by God to really educate people. And I don't think I would be able to, um, have the

01:18:20.220 opportunity to speak so freely if I was an elected member of parliament. And, uh, you know, given

01:18:29.520 some of the things that i've said even though what i'm saying is is completely true um you know it

01:18:36.480 just it it would offend the the woke lefties or something so um if i get back in do it like trump

01:18:45.840 your way yeah so so canadian politics doesn't work that way like it's definitely party politics and um

01:18:52.640 And yeah, like I just, I've just found my voice. And, you know, again, like after 10 years of having to limit myself and be quiet, I feel like I finally have an opportunity to say the truth.

01:19:08.720 So I feel like I could do more by educating people and by waking up the masses and putting political pressure on politicians using my voice and my platform, right?

01:19:30.360 So having already been on the inside, you know, I know how it operates, I know how it works. So I can use that knowledge and that lived experience to my advantage to get the results that I want to see from the outside. Right? You know what I mean? So there you go. I hope that kind of explains where I am right now.

01:19:56.720 The claim Cyrus established a secular society where each person could freely practice their own individual belief.

01:20:06.000 Cyrus is also known for writing the first declaration of human rights.

01:20:11.000 There's a cylinder in the British Museum called the Cyrus Cylinder.

01:20:16.220 Is this because Cyrus believed that basic human rights such as freedom, equality and justice are universal and therefore a moral absolute?

01:20:26.720 okay so we have a comment here um zoroastrianism and hinduism have an ancient relationship

01:20:37.180 they were like the same religion which split into two branches in persia and india um that's

01:20:48.240 interesting i didn't know that i mean i'll definitely look into that but um i i do know

01:20:53.600 that a lot of these very ancient civilizations and religions are sort of influenced by one another

01:21:02.820 in some way, shape or form. And, you know, the Hindu civilization is, you know, one of the

01:21:08.580 ancient civilizations as well. And, you know, again, 1400 years ago, when the Arab Muslim

01:21:16.420 invaders came to persia many iranians actually sought refuge um amongst the the hindus and so

01:21:24.500 you know we no one really talks about the sort of ancient relationship between hindus and

01:21:33.240 and zoroastrians um i guess i guess for some reason it's just not really like focused on

01:21:39.980 that much but uh but there is that relationship there and you know i have a lot of respect for

01:21:46.640 for the hindu civilization a lot of inventions actually came from india um yeah no that's i'll

01:21:54.140 look into that that's really interesting i didn't know that i'm sure there's probably

01:21:57.940 some sort of connection or or overlap there absolutely

01:22:01.720 I think so. He didn't put it that way. We haven't a record of this kind of thing,

01:22:09.800 but he certainly saw that, as Zarathustra said, each individual must make an informed

01:22:19.080 and intelligent choice. Now, in order to do that, you must be left free.

01:22:23.960 there is also the notion of asha which is justice and so he established the

01:22:33.800 national courts what we might call the federal courts where any dispute of this kind would be

01:22:41.480 treated fairly in order to have a standard way of life he established the rules of the marketplace

01:22:49.720 so that was governed throughout the empire but in each individual state they could have their own

01:22:57.800 laws about property transfer inheritance and so on that was for the local people to decide on their

01:23:07.400 own in this book philosophy of history by george hagel

01:23:20.680 he claims the persian empire is an empire in the modern sense for we find it oh okay so another

01:23:29.560 another um super chat comment here so goldie what do you think of muslims claiming

01:23:34.840 that dual car name figure in Quran is Cyrus. Are you familiar with it? It seems to be Alexander

01:23:42.420 the great with stories copied from Alexander romance. Um, so there's literally nothing in

01:23:48.840 the Quran that is original actually, no, that's not true. Um, there is like one thing in the

01:23:55.120 Quran that is original. Um, that's the story of Muhammad, um, flying on a winged donkey with the

01:24:04.260 face of the woman to the heavens and back. So that's definitely original to the Quran because

01:24:09.180 I've never heard of any other prophet flying a winged donkey with the face of a woman going to

01:24:15.200 the moon and back. But in terms of, you know, stealing historical figures, they've done that 0.98

01:24:25.940 a lot. Like they've done it with Jesus, they've done it with Mary, they've done it with so many

01:24:30.760 other things. So I mean, there's literally nothing original in the Quran about that. So

01:24:37.420 sure, they can, they can say that. But we all know the truth. So yeah, it's it's just it's so

01:24:46.680 it's basically, it's just historical revisionism, right? It's basically them trying to rewrite

01:24:53.420 history and claim everything for themselves, right? It's like the same reason why they say

01:24:58.060 like Jesus was Muslim. Like it's like literally the most idiotic thing I've ever heard. And I 1.00

01:25:02.860 don't even, and like they say it with a straight face, like they just walk up and they're like, 0.82

01:25:06.720 Jesus was a Muslim. And I just look at them and I'm like, am I missing something here? Because 1.00

01:25:12.240 Jesus was born 600 years before Muhammad, the warlord invented your religion. And yet you're 1.00

01:25:18.880 walking around saying Jesus was Muslim, right? So it's, it's the same thing. It's the same exact 1.00

01:25:23.140 It was basically just a way for them to co-opt other cultures and traditions and celebrated figures.

01:25:31.420 So, yeah, I hope that answers your question.

01:25:36.920 Consistent of a number of states which are indeed dependent, but which have retained their own individuality, their manners and laws.

01:25:46.780 The general enactments, binding upon all, did not infringe upon their political and

01:25:53.660 social idiosyncrasies, but even protected and maintained them, so that each of the nations

01:26:01.400 that constitute the whole had its own form of constitution.

01:26:06.740 Can you tell us a little bit about the formation of the government that Cyrus the Great had

01:26:13.400 established that represents what Hegel is stating for us, please?

01:26:19.400 This is the idea that each culture had its own vision of life and that that was part

01:26:30.400 of their heritage.

01:26:32.400 It was not the function of the emperor to trespass upon it.

01:26:36.400 The emperor merely established a universal society which harmoniously practiced trade

01:26:50.160 and organized in such a way that there is the least amount of friction.

01:26:57.440 This is a very interesting idea.

01:27:00.640 Friction is viewed as a very damaging thing because the economic what has

01:27:08.740 happened with our contemporary society is that we have viewed our welfare so

01:27:19.860 very much in terms of economic advantage and many people are not satisfied with

01:27:29.040 with being just economically adequate there's this constant need to have more

01:27:38.420 because who knows in the future you may need the money and so on and so forth

01:27:44.060 this kind of uncertainty and the anxiety has produced a culture which is my

01:27:54.480 suppose there may have been that sort of thing even in the old days but today

01:28:03.420 this is a very big problem and the tribalism is being replaced by the

01:28:10.320 conflict between classes which was of course magnified by the communist vision

01:28:17.920 It seems part of it is because man feels insecure and certain philosophers said life is nothing but a struggle to survive and since we equate survival to economics, it seems if we gave everyone a blanket security of some form, perhaps it might hopefully reduce some of that.

01:28:41.480 i hope so at least that was the view of uh franklin delano roosevelt

01:28:50.520 but they are now trying to turn that back

01:28:57.400 um so musa asks good evening are you an avid reader of old and recent books on the history

01:29:06.840 of civilizations, like the ones of William James Durant, Fernand, Brodel, Edward Gibbons,

01:29:13.600 Thucydides, etc. I do enjoy reading books about ancient civilizations and ancient histories.

01:29:23.700 I haven't had as much time to read recently because I've just been a little bit busy,

01:29:29.440 but I do try to watch a number of documentaries. If you have any good books that you want to

01:29:34.420 recommend to me, let me know. I would love to, um, love to read them, but I find that for me,

01:29:42.460 the best way to learn, especially learning about the Persian civilization. Um, there's so many

01:29:48.840 good accounts, um, on Instagram, they're mostly Farsi accounts. So like, I'll watch a lot of

01:29:54.440 Farsi accounts. Um, and you know, they have podcasts and videos, um, about the history

01:29:59.900 of the Persian empire. So usually, you know, when I'm doing something, I'll be playing one

01:30:04.280 those podcasts or videos in the background to learn but if you have any any books that you

01:30:08.600 could recommend definitely let me know um because i do need to make more time for reading i just

01:30:14.520 i've been so busy with life um that sometimes it's uh it's a challenge to get a few hours

01:30:20.520 here and there um to to read these days but would love your suggestions and opinions on that

01:30:25.960 thank you for joining the live stream appreciate that social legislation we need a balance exactly

01:30:31.560 that's the thing in these matters there are always issues where somebody's interest is being

01:30:39.880 imposed upon and one must get the best possible balance that is what democracy was supposed to be

01:30:48.200 instead it has become a battlefield but what's the use of complaining about these things

01:30:54.200 but there must be a vision somewhere that can solve it.

01:31:01.200 Zarathustra's vision is that there is a solution.

01:31:07.200 There is the ideal asha. 1.00

01:31:09.200 You need to have the intelligence and the insight to get to it

01:31:16.200 by restraining your personal self-interest or your fears.

01:31:23.200 OR YOUR FEARS.

01:31:27.400 IT SEEMS THIS NOTION OF HEAVEN THAT MAN HAS,

01:31:30.800 IT'S THE SUPREME IDEA.

01:31:32.940 BECAUSE WE SEE THIS WORLD TO BE IMPERFECT.

01:31:35.440 THAT'S RIGHT.

01:31:36.280 SO IT'S THE PERFECT STATE OF MIND OR IDEA

01:31:40.120 THAT COMES TO THE MIND.

01:31:42.120 EXCEPT WE LACK THE WISDOM TO CREATE THAT.

01:31:45.160 YES.

01:31:46.560 AND IN ORDER FOR SOMEONE TO DO THE RIGHT THING

01:31:49.200 and progress to that ultimate state it seems Zartushra reduces finally everything to wisdom

01:31:58.480 yes it's it's ultimately we lack the wisdom and he puts so much emphasis on this which it becomes

01:32:05.680 his his the god and the deity that everything that that is the final frontier there's two

01:32:13.280 aspects of it one is grasping the ideal state of the social order where most of the friction lies

01:32:23.440 and even in the natural order because there is okay so scorpion king says goldie

01:32:31.360 please explore the common origins of hinduism soroastrianism avista and rigvida have common

01:32:40.480 god's rituals it is really fascinating okay i'll make a note of that and um i'll look into it for

01:32:47.520 sure if i can find like an interesting video um to play in you know one of my my evening live

01:32:53.920 streams where things are more chill uh absolutely i'll look into that um what's interesting is that

01:33:00.720 um i also know this is from one of my uh yezidi friends my understanding is that there's also

01:33:07.920 a lot of connections between Hinduism and the Yazidi religion. I think especially when it comes

01:33:16.640 to, I want to say that the peacock imagery, is that the right one? I can't remember now,

01:33:24.160 but I know there's like, there is some sort of similarity and overlap between Hinduism and the

01:33:31.560 Yazidi religion as well. The Yazidi religion is another religion that's pretty ancient as

01:33:37.600 as well so i'll make a note um and i'm more than happy to um to look into that as well

01:33:45.760 thank you for that suggestion

01:33:49.920 friction between us and the natural order to diseases for example and so on so forth

01:33:56.560 so the curing of diseases becomes a a morally worthy act produces good 1.00

01:34:03.440 It's one of the reasons why there are so many doctors among the Zoroastrians.

01:34:15.040 This is an idea of some high degree of optimism. 0.98

01:34:19.940 We'll be able to grasp this truth and we will know what to do.

01:34:26.760 You must get to know what the truth is.

01:34:29.560 must be able to formulate the proper way to achieve it and you must have the will

01:34:36.220 and the courage to put it into practice this is the wisdom can anyone choose

01:34:47.620 this religion and philosophy freely for themselves

01:34:52.720 zarathustra declares this to be a vision to be chosen by each individual by himself or herself

01:35:05.520 doesn't say individuals of this kind or that kind belonging to this group or that group

01:35:10.560 this is an individual faith okay so we have um a book suggestion so mark

01:35:19.520 Markan says, let me just write this down. So the Zoroastrian tradition by Farhang Mir is a great

01:35:30.740 book and concise explanation of Zoroastrian beliefs. It really helped in my conversion.

01:35:37.900 Oh my gosh, that's so nice. Okay, I'm going to write that down as well. The Zoroastrian tradition

01:35:45.380 really good to know i i will leave your comment up for a little bit so that other people in the chat

01:35:59.700 um or who are watching the live stream have an opportunity to um to write down the name of the

01:36:06.220 book and author in case they're interested in learning more as well all right oh

01:36:14.460 okay so we have another okay we have a super chat from Aisha's goat so

01:36:28.720 in a world full of glass you're the diamond thank you if we could take one piece of your wisdom 0.77

01:36:39.240 and make it the new Goli standard, what's the one law you would have us all live by? 0.72

01:36:50.400 So the one law that I would have everyone live by is the motto of the Zoroastrian faith.

01:37:02.060 In Persian, it's in English, it's good thoughts, good words, good deeds. So if that's the one thing

01:37:17.460 that I would, you know, say, take with you, good thoughts, good words, good deeds. Now,

01:37:25.480 I just want to be very clear, good thoughts, good words, and good deeds doesn't mean being,

01:37:31.560 you know, a pushover or just letting people walk over you because you think you have to be kind.

01:37:37.720 Absolutely not. Good thoughts, good words, good deeds. Sometimes that means having to have the

01:37:44.640 courage to say things which might be uncomfortable or, you know, having the courage to go against

01:37:52.000 the flow. So, but, but that's, that, that would be my piece of advice. Good thoughts, good words,

01:37:57.140 good deeds. And as long as you're saying what you're saying for the right reason, you're not

01:38:02.980 saying it to hurt anyone. You're saying it because you want to help people. That's the most important

01:38:08.200 thing. So yeah, good thoughts, good words, good deeds. And we have another book suggestion.

01:38:14.620 This one's by The Major Actual. So Immortal by Stephen R. Ward. Also, I should consider a show

01:38:24.320 on Pahlavism. Okay, sure.

01:38:28.440 Let me write this down. So, Immortal

01:38:32.400 by Stephen

01:38:36.860 R. Ward.

01:38:39.040 Oh, my YouTube page

01:38:43.280 died there for a reason. All right. Immortal by Stephen R. Ward

01:38:46.900 and follow up

01:38:49.180 do a show on

01:38:53.500 Pahlavism. Okay.

01:38:57.860 Absolutely. Thank you for that. Thank you so much.

01:39:01.280 And therefore it is absolutely inconceivable that you would have thought

01:39:05.360 that this applies only to this group or that group.

01:39:09.220 His whole approach was to move from tribalism

01:39:13.080 to individuality.

01:39:19.180 there we go so that is the end of the documentary i thought that was personally

01:39:31.760 very informative i learned a lot um i hope you guys appreciated that um for the people in the

01:39:39.980 chat who are saying things like what what does it say like they're saying things like i don't know

01:39:46.580 burn the Quran. Absolutely. I would never do that. There's a difference between criticizing 0.95

01:39:52.400 religion and being disrespectful. And I don't, you know, listen, I don't care if other people

01:40:00.860 burn books. It's just, it's not my thing. I'm not going to do it. So let's just be a little

01:40:05.960 bit respectful there of that. Okay. We have another comment here. Ms. Gamari, The Great

01:40:13.860 game by Peter Halkirk is a good read. It's Anglo-centric, but does touch on Anglo-Brit

01:40:22.640 war and annexation of Herat. Okay. I will look into that as well. Great game by Peter

01:40:36.200 paul kirk okay thank you everyone for joining me guys i really appreciate all of you here

01:40:45.840 um this was great i learned a lot of course as always i enjoyed speaking with you all i enjoyed

01:40:51.680 your feedback welcome to all of the new members and new subscribers um again just wanted to point

01:40:58.640 out my evening live streams are a little bit more chill um evening live streams are a little bit more

01:41:05.280 chill because it's more just focused on documentaries and, you know, stuff like that.

01:41:10.620 And the, you know, during the day at 12 noon Eastern, those are my live streams where I focus

01:41:19.140 more on politics and current issues and, you know, Islamic terrorism and jihad. We have another 0.98

01:41:29.240 comment. So, uh, Musa Mohsin Zadeh says, here's a first title for the road. The story of

01:41:38.400 civilization, volume one, our oriental heritage. Okay. I'm going to write that down. The story

01:41:46.060 of, that sounds really interesting. Story of civilization, volume one,

01:41:53.560 our oriental heritage by William.

01:42:11.080 Okay. All right. Thank you everyone for joining. Really appreciate all of you. Thank you to all

01:42:19.320 the members all the mods all the subscribers and thank you to everyone for the super chats

01:42:24.460 means a lot so tomorrow I'm actually going to be starting my daily live stream a bit later

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01:42:54.500 So anyways, thanks everyone for joining. Have a good evening. I'm going to turn off my live

01:43:00.760 stream and I'm going to go watch some documentaries about the Anunnaki now. There you go. So all right. 1.00

01:43:06.500 Have a good evening, everyone.

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Goldie Ghamari - December 23, 2025

Zoroastrianism 101： Religion, Philosophy and History

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