Greg Wycliffe and Mark Emery are stuck inside, living in Toronto, Canada, as a result of a government lockdown. Tonight's episode features live music from Greg Wycliffe, musical performances from Greg, and a Q&A with the chat.
00:27:27.800I haven't seen any robots walking around yet.
00:27:29.920They're cohabiting with people, talking to them.
00:27:32.540The only thing that a robot won't be able to do very well, or a humanoid creature, is a sense of humor.
00:27:42.120A sense of humor is spontaneous, quirky, unpredictable, and really based on the personality of the person making a remark or making a gesture.
00:27:50.680Robots will have a very difficult time understanding nuance like that.
00:27:54.780But they will be really good at sharing knowledgeable information.
00:27:58.540I would say that's actually all they're good at.
00:28:02.560I think that's all they're good at right now in terms of I can ask Alexa an interesting question and sometimes she gives me an interesting answer.
00:28:12.680It's a very great thing to have in the household.
00:28:15.100But I think it's going to be quite some time until we can actually have an enjoyable conversation that replicates actual human interaction.
00:28:27.660don't get me wrong don't get me wrong the rapport that i have the rapport that i build with my
00:28:33.040fleshlight my girlfriend right now for example is a strong rapport in that element of my life
00:28:38.080but the rapport of having a conversation with a robot spitting out facts i really don't think
00:28:43.520that's going to happen yeah but the advantages are too numerous they can do the laundry they
00:28:48.680can do washing they can converse with you they can jog with you they're really good mark you're
00:28:53.140you're talking about you're talking about blade runner yes yeah but we're that's we're not yeah
00:28:59.400it's sure it's coming but i don't think the technology is there i think the need is good
00:29:03.380that is becoming like happening now yeah but you know the phrase uh necessity is the mother of
00:29:09.020invention we've got a million i i agree i agree but i i think there's people who can't who are
00:29:15.500going to be told for years they can't get near people and but they want companionship and they
00:29:20.640want sex and they want to do stuff together and they want to go to restaurants i think it will
00:29:25.880be interesting if it's not human essentially but behaves like a human right because the government's
00:29:30.700going to outlaw humanity and literally that's what they're doing right now they've outlawed
00:29:34.920humanity they say it's temporary but i don't believe that they're telling us it could go on
00:29:39.780for years and the thing is next year there'll be another pathogen like there always is there's a
00:29:44.580new pathogen every year and the worst thing we can do is do this hysterical overreaction
00:29:49.620destroy our civilization, to save some elderly, largely it's elderly.
00:29:54.180Sure, some young people with pre-existing conditions occasionally show terrible symptoms or even die.
00:30:00.660But it's so rare that every time somebody under 45 dies, you can read about it because it's such an unusual event with COVID-19.
00:30:08.920I do have some quarantine questions for you.
00:30:11.380what is to get it more positive here what's one good thing that you found out of this quarantine
00:30:19.880or lockdown phase is there anything positive that you're seeing from this situation or through your
00:30:24.460own personal experience no i mean i'm having a pleasant enough time especially considering it's
00:30:30.66040 days inside and i have been six years in prisons 39 different ones so i'm kind of used to
00:30:37.800isolated and you know the food's better here and the tv's way better and i get to choose it i don't
00:30:44.620have to fight with 35 guys and i whom i know i'm going to lose the argument with um and uh so you
00:30:52.280know there are advantage to what i would call house arrest now now under house arrest normally
00:30:58.060you get to go to work and you can visit your family and stuff like that so this has got a few
00:31:03.900less privileges than house arrest because we can't go to work we can't see our family right and we're
00:31:09.900not supposed to have visitors which you can get in prison but that's you know but on the other hand
00:31:14.560it's familiar um you know i can jerk off with relative privacy um the food is better um but
00:31:22.780you know what 40 days is almost enough uh and i would i i'm just grateful i don't have three
00:31:28.640children in the house uh with me driving me crazy absolutely because that's that's something a lot
00:31:34.660of guys would find hard to take heck a lot of women would find that hard to take um
00:31:39.340and we live in canada so that the anarchy and the mayhem and the food riots and the looting
00:31:45.660uh may never come or it may come later than most places where it's already happening
00:31:50.020right right yeah i think right now especially right now if you talk to a lot of you know
00:31:55.160regular canadians they're just enjoying themselves right now they're they're enjoying it and i say
00:32:00.520like you were saying you know enjoy it while you can enjoy it while you can that's right
00:32:04.540because they're gonna have years of regret when their kids can't get jobs when they can't get
00:32:09.880jobs when they can't pay their mortgage when the when their equity collapses and their pension
00:32:15.860funds pay no interest or dividends etc etc uh there's a lot of pain for everybody to go around
00:32:22.820not to mention the government's printed up so much money that your currency is going to be
00:32:26.840devalued considerably, which hurts everyone. Hence the inflation we're going to see with food.
00:32:32.940We won't see it with accommodation, though, because the housing market is going to collapse.
00:32:37.620And do you have any predictions in terms of when we'll be let out, when we'll be able to go back
00:32:42.140outside and not fine for being within two meters of somebody else? Well, when you look at the
00:32:50.020prime minister it's like that won't happen till next year um and we've already had hundreds of
00:32:55.980people getting fines here in toronto for breaking those laws and their fines are incredible like a
00:33:01.400thousand dollars are you out of your mind that's crazy yeah a thousand dollars is like two people's
00:33:06.180a person's wage for two weeks in the normal world i mean so this idea that somehow oh you were too
00:33:12.020close here's a thousand dollars fuck you what is that that's crazy bullshit that's police state
00:33:17.940that's like completely over the top kind of fines that should be like an 85 dollar fine so what is
00:33:25.220the number one thing that you miss right now only one thing i know there's a lot you probably miss
00:33:31.000right now being in quarantine what is one thing one thing no i miss my girlfriend oh yeah my
00:33:36.620girlfriend it's the only thing i really miss yeah what one more topic i wanted to get on you mentioned
00:33:43.200earlier tonight that you were having some weird kind of I want to say censorship I don't know if
00:33:48.340that's the right word to use but you said on your Facebook page you were getting thought policed
00:33:53.460possibly for sharing the wrong information I did put this just on Instagram Twitter and Facebook
00:34:00.240now but I'm a bit suspicious I got an email but when you track back where the email came from
00:34:06.420it doesn't seem like a legitimate Facebook source interesting so anyway but we'll know but also I've
00:34:12.740had four one month suspensions from facebook in the past that sort of arrived in the same way
00:34:18.860um and and that's that was like four one month suspensions i've had several three day suspensions
00:34:25.440right for bizarre stuff yeah like one time i criticized the lousy pot at a government store
00:34:31.560three day suspension what hold on hold on hold on hold on you just criticized the quality of
00:34:38.360marijuana yeah and the yeah and the fact the price and the quality of the government's legal
00:34:44.220marijuana and they tell you which one they're referencing when they tell you why you're being
00:34:48.860banned they show you the one and it's always basically some algorithm that doesn't really
00:34:54.180have any oversight or any human and because it's only three days it's not worth your while
00:34:59.060complaining right right now this one says they're permanently deleting my page um as of like tuesday
00:35:05.880because of some fake news I spread about COVID-19.
00:35:11.380But since the government itself was spreading fake news recently,
00:35:15.400like, oh, masks are no good, flights from other countries don't hurt us,
00:35:20.480the government itself was giving out fake news for COVID-19.
00:35:23.900So what makes anything I said fake news, you know, whatever.
00:35:30.500Did you see that little CBC video where the older woman's on her phone?
00:35:35.500she's like hey if your uncle or dad is sending you weird misinformation from a strange website
00:35:40.980i know make sure you tell them to shut the hell up about it how to straighten in a nice way
00:35:44.740straighten your family out when this i know i literally saw that how do you straighten your
00:35:48.520family in other words they're they're appealing to the obedient sheep which which seem to be so
00:35:54.000abundant in canada i gotta say i can't believe like even sometimes my own parents they're sending
00:35:59.360out you know what 200 billion dollars and free money free money that's such a joke yeah free
00:36:04.700money money that kids will have to pay for the rest of their life i have hope that we can still
00:36:10.120turn this country around as you know i ran for the for the ppc back in the fall you were actually
00:36:14.380last time i saw you in real life actually you were helping me out holding one of my signs during my
00:36:18.200campaign which is great that was a good time and of course what a what a futile thing eh yeah but
00:36:24.180i think even before we get into like the actual politics didn't want to talk about politics but
00:36:29.020here we are um i think the challenge even before that is like you said kind of like sheepish
00:36:34.060canadians canadians afraid to speak or even really get into a significant conversation where
00:36:39.920they're speaking out against the you know our our daddy governments who are now you know giving us
00:36:44.460their our little quarantine salaries uh and you know you've you are i really respect you because
00:36:50.720i feel like you're an activist for all the right reasons there's a lot of activists these days
00:36:56.400who are i feel like they might just be doing it for attention or because they're bored but you
00:37:01.440know with marijuana for yourself you've been doing it since the get-go because you're like this is
00:37:05.500something i believe in and this is how i'm going to be effective as a person who's willing to
00:37:09.120sacrifice something for a greater value that's not necessarily something he benefits by so for
00:37:16.620example if i hold a rally and i want to have a rally that gives me some kind of privilege
00:37:23.420or money or special position that's not activism but if you're willing to go to jail if you're
00:37:30.700willing to give up money if you're willing to give up your time and effort for a cause that's
00:37:36.600greater than yourself and that is purely liberational as opposed to punitive because
00:37:42.680a lot of people protest for things like oh we want more money because we're poor or we need more
00:37:49.440money for this shelter or we need to do this or my union needs to stop other people from getting
00:37:55.400our jobs that's not activism that's self-centered interest interesting right that in a negative way
00:38:02.840you could say that's selfish in a positive way you can say it's self-centered so they're doing
00:38:08.300something to enrich themselves in an obvious way but the people who defend prisoners the people
00:38:14.660who defend you know human rights and justice the people who go to bat for people with less
00:38:20.920privileged than them whereby they don't stand to gain anything that's an activist or someone who's
00:38:27.280willing to sacrifice of themselves or you know i like to think that going to jail i've gone to jail
00:38:32.20039 times for cannabis one time for sunday shopping i've been convicted other things that i thought
00:38:38.620were important matters of justice um sunday shop that's how you prove you're an activist
00:38:44.460Sunday shopping by going to jail sorry what's Sunday shopping oh I went to jail for five days
00:38:50.920to uh as a punishment for opening my store in the 80s my bookshop City Lights Bookshop in London
00:38:57.200Ontario um and I actually got convicted of eight separate different kinds of violations
00:39:03.500interesting the one I went to jail for though was dressing up as Santa Claus the day before
00:39:10.540christmas and giving ten dollars worth of books away free to every customer and not selling them
00:39:14.560anything i wanted to prove that you could get um charged an offense for being santa claus the day
00:39:21.620before christmas and i successfully proved that got convicted and went to jail
00:39:26.300proved a point that was uh the point that was december 24 1986 i was charged there but that
00:39:35.300those laws collapsed shortly after i take some credit for that i gotta ask you about um
00:39:40.800there there's a lot of people talking about the the dangers of covid19 in corporate or in
00:39:49.280incarceration inside inside of jails and institutions and uh for somebody who's been
00:39:55.040inside jails and institutions 30 39 different ones what is your take on this for me on one
00:40:01.220hand I'm thinking well you know these people are already on lockdown you know but well 50 in the
00:40:08.020United States 56 inmates have died and a number of staff have died also wow several hundred
00:40:16.140inmates are currently affected by COVID-19 now I have lots of inmates call me all the time guys I
00:40:23.640was with in prison I let you know I encourage them to call me right and my friend Terry and
00:40:30.140ire massachusetts says there are no covet cases there and everybody's health seems good they've
00:40:36.900all been locked down but the bop in a rather generous act gave every inmate 500 free phone
00:40:43.940minutes free meaning you know they don't have to pay for them um and that's a real bonus for a lot
00:40:49.760of inmates they normally a lot of them can't even afford uh five three hundred you normally only get
00:40:55.200300 minutes a month that's 10 minutes a day in phone calls and you have to pay for them and
00:41:00.700they're quite expensive in the prison system so the bureau of prisons the united states says
00:41:05.180while visitations are not allowed they will all get 500 minutes a month uh phone which is a
00:41:11.640tremendous bonus for many inmates and so it's good that the bop is trying to kind of balance the uh
00:41:18.840the restrictions with a bit of extra contact with friends and family back home during a sensitive
00:41:25.640time when a lot of people's family, you know, are nervous about this pathogen. So
00:41:30.140I'm not a big believer in incarceration. But you know what, when people talked about solitary
00:41:37.640confinement being inhumane and cruel and unusual, it is if you get sent away for years. But no prison
00:41:44.780would be safe if all the worst people were not in some way isolated in solitary and i found that
00:41:51.880the prisons i was in six of them in the u.s were very fair about you know i went to solitary twice
00:41:57.480for things that weren't i wasn't responsible for and that investigations later found not to be true
00:42:03.900and so i was kind of like put in solitary for a month for no legitimate reason but i was also
00:42:10.380grateful that the psychopaths the killers um the people who would use violence or coercion or steal
00:42:18.620right uh those people would be put into solitary and they could be put into solitary for six months
00:42:23.120nine months a year and most most everybody was pretty grateful about that because you know
00:42:30.500they're most prisoners just want to do the right thing while they're in the prison get their time
00:42:35.820done and get back out probably to fuck it up again but that's not their intention they don't
00:42:40.700want to fuck up it's just very difficult to get out of prison unemployed they have burned a few
00:42:45.940bridges you don't have any money it's not like people are dying to hire felons right so and
00:42:52.160especially in this environment if i was in prison it'd be i'd be i'm not sure i'd want to get out
00:42:57.720you're not going to have a job your family's going to be like you know like kind of poor
00:43:03.320because they're all going through a hard time and at least in prison you get three meals a day
00:43:07.900you get to go out to the yard wow you know got a routine you might even be learning some skills
00:43:12.860there like hvac and welding and stuff like that so you know there are some advantages to people
00:43:20.380with i used to play music with a lot of musicians in prison guys with incredible talent geniuses
00:43:26.840yeah but unfortunately a lot of them get fucked up on alcohol and drugs so you put them out in
00:43:31.560a milieu of hopelessness and desperation and a period of unlikely employment when they've got
00:43:37.360to report to a parole officer, live at halfway houses, get a lot of pressure from their family.
00:43:43.400And, you know, they could easily lapse by getting drunk or taking some drugs. So, you know what,
00:43:49.520if you give these prisoners a chance to get out early and it's like five years, yeah, they would
00:43:55.660agree to that. Get out now. But if it was like six months, I'd almost think, hmm, I'll wait till
00:44:00.920this passes. Thank you. I'll do my six months here. No rush, right? Because you don't want to
00:44:06.680get out during a pandemic where there's absolutely no likelihood of you getting a job. And for that
00:44:12.200matter, a lot of people when they're released, you know, early, they have to get a job as part
00:44:17.080of their requirement. So if that's not available, it's just going to be endlessly frustrating for
00:44:21.620them. Interesting. Interesting. Thanks for your perspective on that. When Bill Gates comes up
00:44:26.680with his uh injection what's it called again vaccine are you going to take it yeah for sure
00:44:34.600vaccines for me have been very useful now i travel to a lot of countries i don't do a lot
00:44:40.220of vaccines i don't get hepatitis a and b i don't get a number of them because i'm assessing the
00:44:45.420risk to me um but some stuff like yellow fever or zika you know which is in a lot of the countries
00:44:51.660i go to right um and you know they've largely eradicated a lot of problems with dengue zika
00:44:58.380by those vaccines right right so uh to me i look at what works what doesn't work
00:45:04.220um and mosquitoes love me so you know i face a very stark choice because i go to a lot of
00:45:10.860equatorial places like south africa colombia peru ecuador um and there's a lot of mosquitoes
00:45:16.980in places. And so, you know, and they're likely to, and you need, for example, to go to South
00:45:22.840Africa from South America, you need a yellow fever vaccine and proof of it too, because South Africa
00:45:29.020won't let anybody in who hasn't got a vaccine for yellow fever. So these are things you have to
00:45:35.000think about when you're traveling. You might not be totally 100% sold on vaccines, but on the other
00:45:42.020hand, you can't go certain places without. Would you say when it comes to COVID-19, you would get
00:45:48.620it because you're technically in like a higher risk because of your age? Or like if you were
00:45:53.840younger, would you get it? There's a ton of vaccines you should get at my age. You should
00:45:57.100get a shingles vaccine. I had chicken pox when I was young. Anybody who has chicken pox, and that's
00:46:02.280a virus, right? Right. Anybody who's ever had chicken pox still retains that virus in their
00:46:06.900body and late in life it can come out as a very painful form of herpes on the body and it's very
00:46:15.640painful I even knew a guy who killed himself because he couldn't take the pain and so he
00:46:21.280shot himself with his gun he was 78 but still you know there's a shingles vaccine out now you might
00:46:28.860still get shingles after the vaccine but it'll be a more muted less painful addition and there's
00:46:34.600other vaccines to take and so you have to think about them now if the people don't want to have
00:46:39.640a vaccine that's fine i'm you know to me you're doing your kids a disservice by not getting some
00:46:44.800for them but that's the thing about letting people be parents they get to make stupid decisions
00:46:51.040because that's their right you know and when and we say well it's child abuse listen as long as
00:46:56.520they're not making the kid do puberty blockers or having their breasts lopped off or some kind
00:47:00.920weird shit yeah that's permanent um before they're 18 people get to make these decisions parents get
00:47:06.840to be parents even crazy mormon parents religious parents cult parents muslim parents you know you've
00:47:13.780got to give parents a certain amount of rights or they can't parent right and uh for egregious
00:47:21.460examples of violence against children or abuse against children the state has a role to intervene
00:47:26.280But we've got to give parents a lot of leeway in what they do.
00:47:29.620I even say, you know, even when they get the crazy Jehovah's Witnesses and they don't like blood transfusions and their kid dies, I'm going, well, this is their deal they made with God.
00:47:54.600It's what we allow people to decide as parents, as adults who are guardians over children, because the alternative is that the state is going to be the guardian.
00:48:03.540And the state's a terrible guardian of us all, let alone children.
00:48:07.320Right. Right. So. So you think our rights as Canadians, are they going to slowly be taken away under the guise of COVID-19?
00:48:15.300They come and go. They ebb and flow. Rights are active and they're vibrant and they live.
00:48:22.140As long as people are willing to defy the state, go to court and make a case and arouse public either consensus or support or the public rejects that.
00:48:34.280And, you know, young people today have different priorities.
00:48:36.760I dare say, unfortunately, worrisome priorities about pronouns, but not much about liberty, about about, you know, a lot of them want to be famous on social media.
00:48:49.200And it's not really a job, but that's how they think of a job, getting people to pay them to do something on social media or they're going to be disappointed.
00:48:57.920You saw the you saw the toilet seat licking, right?
00:49:01.420Yes, but you never know if that's real or not, like whether that was staged.
00:49:05.280that could have been the toilet in their own bathroom and perfectly clean that she made it
00:49:09.240look like it was on an airplane but the point still stands it's like hey look at me i'm young
00:49:12.920i'm going to be famous this is my this is why i'm spending my time doing this yeah well you know
00:49:18.780that's gone because how many was there one million two three four five million women you know basically
00:49:24.280showing their their body off yeah you know in these there's millions of women showing how gorgeous
00:49:30.560they are and hoping that to get a patreon account or some kind of like only fans you know only fans
00:49:36.820i love that only fans you know and the thing is whenever i see these women if i see any woman
00:49:42.660that looks too attractive on as trying to be a friend on facebook i go to their page always and
00:49:48.160i look and it's always you know a sex page of some kind goodbye right no e-girls i hear you
00:49:54.480so i i should have asked this earlier you're someone who's been in confinement before any
00:49:58.940advice for people who are in confinement like have you picked up any new hobbies well here's
00:50:04.580the thing about prison you know when you're gonna get out that's the funny thing about this we don't
00:50:09.660know when we're gonna fucking get out right it's like being sentenced to an indefinite prison
00:50:14.480sentence that's maddening in other words the state can renew my prison sentence whenever it feels like
00:50:20.060it and i have no say at least when i get went to jail it was for three months for passing a joint
00:50:25.800which is true in saskatoon correct i got a three-month sentence for passing a joint um or
00:50:30.940it's seven days or it's overnight or in my case five years in the united states i knew when i was
00:50:36.880gonna get out and it would be over right but here we're like under indefinite house arrest and we
00:50:42.560don't know when it's going to be over that to me is the frustrating part i can't make any plans
00:50:47.360i can't do anything right i don't know when anything is going to start up again everybody
00:50:52.400I need to do business with is closed from Passport Canada to Services Canada to all the people I do
00:50:58.600business with. It's all closed. So I can make no plans. No one knows anything about when any of us
00:51:04.820are opening. So you sit here waiting, waiting, waiting. So much uncertainty. Wrong movie. But
00:51:12.320essentially, a prison sentence at least has an ending. Right, right. So your frustrations right
00:51:19.000now i mean as this situation develops are you hoping to have any form of activism to hold
00:51:25.780certain people accountable or like well i'd like to ideally run in the next election for the ppc
00:51:32.140um but i'm not sure they'd take me as a candidate uh because although last time the can i really
00:51:40.140enjoyed the ppc campaign because they let each candidate formulate their own drug policy which
00:51:45.120i thought was great right i'm sure there's a few anti-drug prohibitionist voices in the ppc but most
00:51:51.440people contacted me wanted to know what the proper advice was about legalizing drugs or prisons or
00:51:57.360cannabis and i gave them my opinion and many of them said that in their campaign no other party
00:52:02.660will let you do that everybody has to be a trained seal for the ndp liberals conservatives and the
00:52:07.960greens you can't go around making your own yeah like but but our people were allowed to say no
00:52:15.040i think all drugs should be legal or other people were free to say no i don't think we should be
00:52:20.020doing that at all yeah right so i like the fact that maxim vernia at no point in the campaign did
00:52:25.900i ever hear him tell any candidate that's too off the wall that's out of the question that's around
00:52:32.040you know beyond the pale yeah now typically we attracted good candidates who didn't really have
00:52:37.260any kooky ideas and who liked the the script that we were given and i did too i thought the campaign
00:52:43.100was great i have i love max bernie i think 100 beside behind behind him i can't suggest any
00:52:50.440improvements anything about the guy i don't like uh i thought it was an awesome campaign i thought
00:52:55.760warren kinsella and the conservative slander campaign was shockingly effective unethical
00:53:02.100it was shockingly effective i could never ever support the conservative party in any way whatsoever
00:53:07.520ever again yeah so um so i learned a lot in that campaign and you know all campaigns are the same
00:53:15.160everybody's incredibly ignorant policy is rarely discussed it's all about stupid check it's yeah
00:53:22.080it's all and you know you were a candidate totally disturbed i didn't know going in but uh yeah i
00:53:27.600learned i learned all about it oh it's it's a terrible process let me talk to you about policy
00:53:31.760get out of here you racist scum and it's like oh my god you're the only person i've ever been with
00:53:37.020where someone yelled at me in a restaurant and called me a sexist racist piece of shit
00:53:42.380and i held you responsible greg no actually it was me i was talking loudly but not that
00:53:48.940but not about anything that i thought was remotely offensive and yet we had that whole bar upset
00:53:54.560it was why because in elections people are all fucking hysterical you know they're like i hate
00:54:01.280that guy and they love this guy and none of it's rational none of it makes any sense we were having
00:54:07.480fun i remember we were we were having fun we were having a fun conversation and uh and we managed
00:54:13.900to piss off everybody um and it was a drive-by insult by the way to paint a picture for everybody
00:54:19.220we're at a bar it's it's later on bloor street we're talking about some fun stuff obviously the
00:54:24.200campaigns going on so we're talking about like political stuff and then these people these two
00:54:28.200elder women are as they're walking out i wouldn't say elder but like maybe 40s 50s and they're just
00:54:32.480like we heard what you were saying you're you're you're a racist uh sexist and piece of shit the
00:54:37.760trifecta and then the one guy walks out he gives the thumb he goes white power yeah oh yeah and i'm
00:54:43.660thinking what the fuck are you talking about right so it was so real it was it was strange so many
00:54:50.020and that all candidates meeting people were all pissing vinegar there calling the police to throw
00:54:55.300someone out because that was it was like oh man yeah it's it's all degenerated right and it's all
00:55:01.860a dog and pony show none of nothing serious is discussed at any of those meetings you get like
00:55:07.30030 seconds to answer complex questions and some people are morons and can't even say anything
00:55:12.720good in their one or two minutes that they've got or the one the one green party guy as usual you
00:55:18.100made the most sense to me and you got universally booed not always sometimes i got people to nah
00:55:24.140you got booed pretty well all the time yo you were there for my opening statement my opening
00:55:28.200statement at that one debate was fantastic i i asked for the footage and they're like yeah we
00:55:32.220can't find it yeah yeah i got i saw your entire thing at the at the one i went to i think i went
00:55:37.300to two of yours but um but that one of that church that was something else i got i got claps in the
00:55:42.680opening statement okay i did yeah but that's polite clapping they secretly think you're a
00:55:48.900bad person well it wasn't even that secret well it was on the news it was in the news it was so
00:55:54.720funny because the communist party candidate i didn't think we were going to talk about this
00:55:58.140but the communist party candidate in his opening statement he's like toronto star said this about
00:56:02.460the ppc and i was just like i've actually made youtube videos debunking that article and how
00:56:06.980ridiculous it is but it's nice that you're broadcasting it here anyway thank you so much
00:56:13.040for your time mark emory happy 420 thanks for being the first ever guest on quarantine well
00:56:18.260you know what you know i'm healthy uh we live in canada so there's some good things to think i guess
00:56:24.720um but you know cannabis legalization was such a fuck up such a shit show yeah that it's sort
00:56:31.640of appropriate that by 2020 the 420 is turned into like a totalitarian authoritarian pot nightmare
00:56:38.920because the whole legalization was a nightmare and it's culminated in this horrific awful 420
00:56:44.640yeah yeah hopefully we'll see better days soon where we can you know puff up outside in the
00:56:51.520sunshine by july would be nice i hope july isn't not like you know not out of the not out of the
00:56:58.840cards at this point but uh just so you know rapes and riots peak in all in in august yes
00:57:08.680so your idea of some idyllic summer months around the world when there's food riots and 35 40
00:57:15.780degrees centigrade temperatures boiling everybody's brain who doesn't have air conditioning right um
00:57:21.780This is not a good environment for poverty, for food riots, for starvation, for economic dislocation, for unemployment at 20, 30 percent.
00:57:33.620Believe me, it's going to be a difficult summer this year.
00:57:36.120Well, I'm so glad to hear, Mark, that you are, despite the situation right now, despite it not being the brightest, you're like, you know what?
00:57:45.100If I get a chance, I would like to run.
00:58:00.940You know, you're going to have to find if we didn't laugh, we would have to cry is essentially it.
00:58:06.560Now, it's going to be hard to find the humor in other people's misery around the world when we see people going into poverty, when we see the poor rioting in countries all around the world,
00:58:16.560When we see infrastructure crumbling because there's no money to fix it anymore.
00:58:21.480When we see hospitals being underserviced because we're not collecting the taxes to pay for them.
00:58:27.300When we see our currency debased and inflated by printing up billions of dollars of money that future generations may or may not pay back.
00:58:37.120Yeah. And we see our pension funds collapsing. So a lot of old people won't get money, won't get dividends, won't get their income they rely on. And there's just so many negative things going to happen. And we've never experienced them before. But I've read about them. And I had parents that went through them. And I grew up working at age seven and having my first business when I was nine. And my first successful business when I was 11.
00:59:03.640so you know i'm used to working all my life and i'm used to seeing the benefits of what work can
00:59:10.120do and i've also seen the ravages of what not having work does to poor people oh i'm hoping
00:59:17.520that people can can unify in being you know part of the group that is the last person to get the
00:59:24.360information we like it seems that you know most people are getting information that are going
00:59:29.640through so many different filters and we just seem to be completely helpless and i hope all
00:59:34.000these people that are feeling helpless right now realize that you know we're at the bottom of the
00:59:39.740totem pole here in terms of getting the information and hopefully we can hold hold those accountable
00:59:43.900to that can help prevent this from happening again you know it's probably not happening as
00:59:50.020much as i wish it were people probably aren't reading books like i would like to hope they are
00:59:54.460We're all getting it through the screens, and screens are so superficial and brief and have a lot of ideology in it, whereas books may have ideology, but there's a substantiation involved where they have to produce evidence and facts and stuff to be convincing.
01:08:56.700And I did kind of mention it in that interview.
01:08:59.120I really think a lot of Canadians were in this kind of almost like a purgatory or like this kind of suspended in air kind of place where we think things, oh, May 1st, things will go back to normal, right?
01:09:15.020Okay, well, May 15th, things will go back to normal, right?
01:09:18.220Okay, well, June 1st, things will go back to normal, right?
01:09:21.140And, yeah, I mean, part of me wants to think that.
01:09:25.780part of me wishes that were the case. I, I, I wish I would, I would, I would love that.
01:09:32.360Um, but again, we gotta be realistic about this. We gotta be realistic about this.
01:09:39.620Uh, another super chat from veterans voice PPC 2019, 14 bucks. Thanks man. Thank you so much.
01:09:46.840I know who you are. I know who you are. Great guy. Uh, you should check out his content actually.
01:09:53.680veterans voice ppc 2019 he's got quite a story to tell and he's uh you know like everybody in chat
01:10:00.480i'm sure we're all patriots of some kind i know that's not like that's kind of like a dirty word
01:10:05.480in canada but it shouldn't be and um yeah but uh veterans voice says a positive a positive out of
01:10:13.340the coronavirus for me is that most people are going to realize how important freedom and freedom
01:10:17.940of speech are yes in order to be able to live the life that we want to be happy i totally agree
01:10:28.020big agree there i um i i i mean i don't like to call like my friends normie friends however i i
01:10:36.100feel like we consume different parts of news we care more or less about you know scrutinizing and
01:10:42.180holding leaders to account and that's just the way it is that's just the way it is and you know
01:10:46.980maybe normie is a bad word but it's it's kind of easy to say it's easy to kind of like explain i
01:10:51.400guess but yeah i i've i mentioned the the soul searching um uh in the interview with mark i'm
01:11:00.680not sure if i cut that part out but i think a lot of people are at home kind of reflecting on
01:11:04.520you know their value system what they really um they really want out of life and i think
01:11:10.200specifically especially for canadians and canadian politics uh i think i'm hoping a lot of canadians
01:11:17.560are kind of realizing how apathetic they may be or may have been um i i um yeah i mean i it was kind
01:11:29.920of i've been on my political journey i've been saying oh man you know a lot of canadians do not
01:11:36.420engaged with politics beyond the headline you know there's not much going on just beyond the
01:11:42.180quite literally what the headline says and if and if you know anything about media spin you know
01:11:48.400that's that's not good that's not a good thing at all thank you veterans voice ppc 2019 for the
01:11:55.780super chats i really appreciate it uh and then we got 20 from silverman and buddy thanks so much big
01:12:02.480guy. Um, uh, yeah, guys, it means a lot. It means a lot, you know, no more pogos for me. You know,
01:12:10.900we're going to get the gourmet pogos. A friend of mine actually sent a message to me, a picture
01:12:16.420of a farm boy, you know, the grocery store farm boy. It's kind of like a more like fancy grocery
01:12:24.700store. Um, I go there when I can. Uh, maybe I'll go with this $20, but, uh, he sent me a photo of
01:12:32.800farm boy corn dogs or like pogos, same thing. And they looked pretty good. They looked pretty good.
01:12:39.600They looked a lot because they weren't frozen. You know, they were not frozen like the, uh,
01:12:43.420the other persuasion. Um, let's keep reading through chat here. Let's see how you guys, uh,
01:12:48.980enjoyed the show i'm still working out a lot of tech tech things uh what is a super chat island
01:12:55.420lover a super chat is at the bottom there when you send a chat there might be like a little
01:13:01.420dollar sign somewhere and then you click on that and you follow the instructions of
01:13:05.900um yeah creating a super chat of how much you want to donate and that sort of thing
01:13:10.900which is fantastic um again i really appreciate it help support the channel help support me
01:13:17.020i i would love uh to you know pursue doing more stuff like this and i mean i mean it's
01:13:25.440it's kind of messed up to say but uh you know this this lockdown has given me more time
01:13:33.560and uh almost doing creative stuff out of necessity you know because like being stuck
01:13:37.920inside it's like oh what could i do what could i do in this whole like like um this live streaming
01:13:42.700world you know this live streaming world but thank you so much for your feedback guys
01:13:46.820I did highlight a few chats from earlier.
01:13:52.980Again, Veterans Voice PPC, nonpolitical action by citizens in a democracy equals communism or fascism.
01:14:00.040Because that's what you get if you don't stand up.
01:14:04.440And in many ways, that's why I ended up joining politics in the first place.
01:14:08.920I was tired of just being on Reddit and arguing with strangers and being upset about politics.
01:14:14.360I thought, maybe I can actually do something.
01:14:15.900Maybe I can actually make a difference.
01:14:17.940And then Max and the PPC came in along and I thought, hey, what do you know?
01:14:22.180Island Lover earlier said, Mama Bear, I really hope everyone rises up.
01:14:43.280And quite frankly, you know, based on the way money flows into the pockets of journalists and mainstream media outlets, utilizing social media and the Internet is going to be our best friend.
01:14:59.280friend and so we need to if we have boomer tech issues we need to overcome them we need to learn
01:15:06.920the softwares we need to learn the hardwares or reach out to people that do because um there's a
01:15:13.580lot of nifty things that you can accomplish these days with with the internet and a little bit of
01:15:19.660know-how but um and speaking of which actually hello to matthew baguetta he um well that's that's
01:15:29.480his youtube name he said honestly the only covid updates i get are the daily trump briefings and
01:15:35.040coffee with scott adams that's it i um i love scott adams i don't watch his streams nearly
01:15:42.340enough he's the guy that wrote dilbert but like really intelligent guy and he's one of these
01:15:46.680people that it's just easy has really articulate and very kind of calming takes on things that are
01:15:53.280going on um and yeah trump briefings i feel matthew what you just did here i feel like it needs to be
01:16:00.860a rule it should be a rule from now on i'm making it a rule in 2020 you need to tell me where you
01:16:08.020get your information i don't care i don't care if you're my parents a friend or whatever you know
01:16:15.460I feel like that's really important information.
01:16:20.620Oh, well, I only get everything from the CBC.
01:16:23.020And it's like, okay, that's good information to know
01:16:25.420because now I'm going to know a little bit more about your worldview.
01:16:29.160And on top of that, it's not just about knowing or wanting to know,
01:16:32.840but it's, I mean, we live in such a crazy time.
01:16:36.180There's so many different feeds of different information, you know,
01:16:38.940and knowing where you get where your sources are
01:16:41.720is really going to be a game changer for a lot of people.
01:16:44.820So thanks for the chat, Matthew. Good to see you. Joshua H. said earlier, problem is that we will be weaker immunity wise. Isolation is what caused the native population to be killed by smallpox.
01:26:08.220As I just said a moment ago, the psychology, picking the brains of some of these people, some of these people, it's hard to wrap your head around.
01:26:20.240i tweeted the other day and i could not believe i should i should make this part of a segment for
01:26:27.200the next show probably because it's such a ignorant and hateful tweet from some person who
01:26:34.680i'm guessing is part of that group whether it's like a liberal or a progressive
01:26:39.200and their tweet said something like it was so basic it said all conservatives hate doctors