Greg Wycliffe - Banned from Politics for memes Dries Van Langenhove Belgian Nationalist

00:00:00.000 I have to be very careful in what I say, because a lot of these subjects are literally illegal in Belgium to discuss.

00:00:06.160 It's terror. It's state-sponsored terror.

00:00:08.880 You have my private information of 23 or 24 years of my life,

00:00:13.220 and they have nothing more than that a few of my friends used edgy memes in a private group chat.

00:00:17.780 And they said, OK, these memes are hate speech.

00:00:20.440 We're now going to try to convict them for hate speech.

00:00:22.740 So, no, this is not at all a free country.

00:00:25.260 i often tell people if you want to know what the future of canada looks like just look what's going

00:00:33.420 on in europe this is my interview with dries van lagenhove it is a few months old now i interviewed

00:00:39.700 him in october 2025 in this interview we get into the absurd speech laws in belgium we talk about

00:00:45.620 how he has been persecuted how members of his club have been persecuted over memes in a group chat

00:00:51.220 it's quite insane we also talk about the big existential threat facing white western countries

00:00:58.000 which is immigration we talk about the white guilt myths and this sort of indoctrination that has

00:01:03.020 really impacted the people and how it's a major part of the problem we also get into how right

00:01:08.980 wing nationalists can better fight back against this i hope you enjoy it took place in the royal

00:01:15.900 gallery of Saint-Hubert right downtown in Brussels there, Belgium.

00:01:21.020 Please enjoy this interview with Dries van Langenhoff.

00:01:24.660 My name is Dries van Langenhoff and I'm a nationalist activist.

00:01:28.480 I might even say I'm the nationalist activist from Belgium.

00:01:33.080 There aren't many like me, sadly.

00:01:35.640 And I've had quite an eventful life up until now.

00:01:39.520 I am 32 years old.

00:01:41.400 I've got a family and children.

00:01:42.760 and I was the youngest member of Belgium Parliament up until a few years ago.

00:01:49.360 I've been a nationalist activist for all of my life, basically for 15 years now.

00:01:55.160 I founded the biggest nationalist youth movement of the low countries

00:02:00.600 and because of the huge success of our movement, which was really making a difference,

00:02:05.480 especially when it came to migration and re-migration,

00:02:09.020 the regime kind of started cracking down upon us.

00:02:11.780 they tried to shut us down and eventually they were quite successful in launching a huge hit

00:02:17.300 piece on us a documentary where they leaked chat messages from our alleged chat messages from our

00:02:25.780 group chats private group chats and i mean we had 900 members at that point which is huge for a

00:02:32.180 belgian movement we're a pretty small country and a small nation so it was a huge movement impossible 1.00

00:02:38.580 to control everything and some young guys allegedly shared some edgy memes in a private group chat

00:02:44.580 which nowadays if that would have been like the scandal today nobody would bat an eye i mean even

00:02:49.460 a few days ago such a thing happened in america and you had the vice president of the most powerful

00:02:54.900 nation on earth defending these young guys and saying when we're young everyone shares some edgy

00:03:00.100 stuff or makes an edgy joke so that's not a problem but eight years ago that's when this

00:03:04.820 scandal was launched in belgium so so you think like the era has kind of changed a bit since

00:03:10.500 eight years ago you think it's kind of lightened up with with kind of like free speech and this

00:03:14.340 sort of thing or like people are more sympathetic to the right wing now is that the same in belgium

00:03:19.060 yes a lot has changed of course the overtime window has shifted massively i mean the things

00:03:24.340 that i would say eight years ago were controversial when it came to migration and re-migration

00:03:29.300 nowadays it's it's becoming mainstream even for people like me it's it's getting hard to keep up

00:03:34.340 to keep up with the overtone window it's shifting so rapidly and of course i'm very happy for me and

00:03:39.540 for many other activists who have sacrificed so much over the past years to break the ice of this

00:03:45.060 debate that it's finally happening it's finally becoming mainstream and a lot of blood sweat and

00:03:50.500 tears a lot of energy a lot of money a lot of suffering sacrifices went into this so i'm very

00:03:56.020 happy with that and yeah the scandal against us was launched eight years ago and it almost

00:04:00.980 nearly destroyed my life's work we survived and we are now very successful but it very nearly

00:04:08.500 destroyed us and i'm very sure that if the same scandal would launch today nobody would bat an eye

00:04:13.860 nobody would bat an eye you have to know like eight years ago when the national broadcasting

00:04:18.740 service which is like the regime's propaganda branch they launched this attack against us and

00:04:23.300 they said like these young guys they support hitler they they launch they they talk about

00:04:28.340 hitler in private groups and even they they even said that we denied the holocaust none none of us

00:04:34.180 like 900 people none of us even spoke about the holocaust but according to belgian law if you

00:04:39.460 share a joke about hitler or the nazis or world war ii a joke is the same as laughing with what

00:04:46.340 happened and laughing with what happened according to the law is the same as negating or denying what

00:04:52.420 happened so we we came into this storm and you know young people back then they know like this

00:04:58.740 is a meme it's just a joke they didn't care but older people boomers who barely had a smartphone

00:05:04.660 back then they don't know what memes are and they thought oh my god these are neo-nazis radicals

00:05:10.180 these are dangerous terrorists we have to eradicate them so it was a very difficult time but then a

00:05:15.540 few years later many of the people who then condemned us they they came to me and they said

00:05:20.020 like man i'm sorry for what i said back then now i have a smartphone i get sent jokes all the time i

00:05:25.540 realize that this is not a problem so i was very quickly rehabilitated and even half a year later

00:05:32.580 after this scandal a poll of the biggest newspaper in the country showed that i was the second most

00:05:37.220 popular political figure in the country so it all went very rapidly and nowadays i'm a very known

00:05:43.460 voice on remigration not only in belgium but in the world so i'm i'm quite content with the way

00:05:49.060 things went uh we also have a holocaust denial law in canada it hasn't been enforced many times

00:05:56.020 but i'm curious how long has that been the case in belgium of this specific law that uh and is

00:06:01.460 this the one that was levied against you for a year in prison yes exactly so it's been it's been

00:06:06.420 in effect quite a long time in belgium already i think it was in the 80s or 90s that this was

00:06:11.220 It was at least 25, 30 years ago that this was implemented.

00:06:16.900 And now this law is being used against us in the most ridiculous, egregious way.

00:06:21.800 So it was just jokes. 0.50

00:06:23.180 And you have to know, these jokes weren't even shared by me.

00:06:26.000 They were shared by some young guys who replied to a guy.

00:06:31.020 So I'll get to the details because this is quite important.

00:06:35.300 And it's a warning, especially for Americans.

00:06:37.640 Because you see that in America, there's a climate right now that they say we have to crack down on anti-Semitism.

00:06:43.600 We have to have laws that go against anti-Semitism.

00:06:46.820 That's always how it starts.

00:06:48.520 And then you get on a slippery slope to a full authoritarian, well, no free speech, no First Amendment.

00:06:55.380 So I'll get to the details.

00:06:56.780 What happened was during the exam period when most of us were studying, we were a movement of young people, most of us were studying.

00:07:03.480 And some guy said, hey, let's have a laugh.

00:07:06.780 let's relax a little bit who has the edgiest joke and when you say when you say this it's like a

00:07:12.780 challenge to young young guys and you say like go search for the edges joke so a lot of people were

00:07:18.200 searching like most edgy joke and you end up on on fora and etc and so they had some of these jokes

00:07:24.060 were about the most touchy subjects nowadays which one of them is clearly the holocaust so like five 0.95

00:07:29.840 or six jokes were like one of them was a jewish rolex and then a picture of a watch with a gas

00:07:35.620 meter in the watch i mean stuff like that sure sure not nowadays this is not shocking at all

00:07:41.060 some people when i show them the memes that we were convicted for for a prison sentence when i

00:07:45.880 show them these memes they're like is that it it's it's so it's so moderate they're they are

00:07:49.800 mainstream normie memes nowadays uh but back then some boomers were shocked about it then some

00:07:54.840 journalists spinned it in a way that was completely disingenuous uh but then years later um they were

00:08:01.600 they were trying to crack down upon us and they did three house searches with me privately and

00:08:08.040 20 house raids with members of our movements 50 interrogations so it was pretty much one of the

00:08:14.340 biggest criminal investigations in the country in the 21st century and they couldn't find anything

00:08:20.340 so they didn't find one illegal weapon one thing that ever went wrong they couldn't find any

00:08:26.240 evidence of crimes so then they made up stuff they just kept searching in millions of messages

00:08:32.000 so they had my computer my phone they had everything from 20 different people and then

00:08:37.180 in some messages some private chat group they found some memes and they said okay these memes

00:08:41.820 are hate speech and we're now going to try to convict them for hate speech and then there were

00:08:46.860 trials for years on end around this and eventually they convicted me to a year in prison a 10-year

00:08:53.440 ban on participating in politics huge fines huge damages that i had to pay and pretty much anyone

00:08:59.600 in the country that said oh i was offended by these memes could ask for thousands of euros

00:09:04.800 of damages from me so it was a huge witch and crazy stuff man if i tell you all the details

00:09:11.440 you aren't even going to believe me there were people coming coming in this court case and they

00:09:15.840 said i'm a holocaust victim and i demand reparations i demand damages from dries falangadova 0.86

00:09:21.280 So I didn't even share one of these memes, let alone that I would make these memes or push them into their faces.

00:09:26.840 And then these people, when I looked up their birth date, it was like 1956.

00:09:31.020 So they weren't even alive back then.

00:09:32.700 They had nothing to do with it.

00:09:33.720 But they said, like, I had family who passed away during the Holocaust.

00:09:37.040 So now I demand money, big money, thousands of euros from these young people because some of them made an edgy joke in a private group chat.

00:09:45.360 Private.

00:09:46.160 Completely private.

00:09:47.060 so sometimes I'm on X and nowadays luckily thanks to Elon Musk we have free speech on X and I'm

00:09:54.300 like okay I'm gonna explain the details to the world of what happened here and I I'm starting

00:09:59.400 to type and then I think I'm not even going to try but nobody will believe me this this these

00:10:03.300 are facts this is 100% the truth that I'm saying I'm sure you will have an audience that will

00:10:08.520 probably be open to the reality and knows what is going on but most people when they when they read

00:10:14.660 about my story they don't believe it and i i completely understand because this is such a

00:10:18.540 ridiculous crazy story but this is exactly what happened to me what are the responses been from

00:10:25.720 like some of your members like you said 50 people got interrogated yes so what's it like just to be

00:10:31.860 a fan of you maybe party one of your clubs and then like what they're gonna knock on the door

00:10:35.300 they got a call you got to come into the police station to answer some questions about some memes

00:10:39.320 yeah well that's what happened when you were lucky when you were lucky you got a demand from

00:10:44.380 police to be interrogated at police headquarters if you were unlucky you would have the anti-terrorism

00:10:49.940 unit bashing down your door guns drawn coming in stealing your laptop your computer every piece

00:10:56.320 of paper every usb drive they would steal everything and go through it for years and that's

00:11:01.500 not the worst part to be clear that's not the worst part that's also what happened to me three times

00:11:07.000 what is the worst part is that they stole my phone my computer my hard drives and then immediately

00:11:12.040 gave it to the hostile leftist press which it just it's the propaganda branch of the belgian regime

00:11:17.000 they gave it to the press and then the press for years on end every few weeks would release

00:11:21.880 articles about my private stuff so they would have and i'm not exaggerating it's it's literally in

00:11:27.320 the files none none of what i'm saying i'm not exaggerating i'm not trying to blow this story

00:11:31.800 up what i'm saying is 100 the truth they have more than one million images who came that came

00:11:38.760 from my hard drives my phone my computer so they have every private photo that i ever took like

00:11:44.200 with with my i mean i'm not going to explain everything but i i have a private life as well

00:11:48.680 of course i have family i've i've had girlfriends i have a wife children and they have everything

00:11:54.200 and they are now using this against me every few weeks or every few months to attack me and my my

00:12:00.440 private life to attack the people around me so that is really it's terror it's state-sponsored

00:12:05.720 terror this is not just investigative journalism or whatever this really is a form of terrorism

00:12:12.360 and it is a punishable offense just to be clear to leak personal information from a criminal

00:12:18.360 investigation and the criminal investigation in itself was insane should have never happened

00:12:22.440 but it's criminal to share this information as a police officer to a journalist but that's

00:12:27.400 constantly what happens so they shared all of our information to the hostile press that has been

00:12:32.280 been using this against me and now that in itself it was it was terrible man it really made me and

00:12:38.180 the people around me suffer gravely for months for years on end but the the the the other side

00:12:45.820 of the metal is now I can say to the media and to all of my enemies is that it is that it you have

00:12:52.920 my private information of of 24 23 or 24 years of my life and the only thing that you can rub

00:13:01.000 against me is that I use the word I'm not I'm gonna say because your stream may be bad but I

00:13:05.540 use the n-word a few times in my private messages is that it is that it I should be receiving a 1.00

00:13:11.440 medal from the Belgian king for my good behavior I mean I'm sure that all these journalists and

00:13:16.320 police officers investigating me if I would look at their hard drives I think I'll find something

00:13:21.160 more than that they use the n-word in their private conversations so in a way in a way it

00:13:26.680 also showed people that even though they investigated all of my friends all of my my co-activists they

00:13:33.800 have all my private information and they have nothing more than that a few of my friends used

00:13:38.120 edgy memes in a private group chat so as i'm saying i should be receiving a medal for my good

00:13:42.440 behavior but in in reality i received a prison sentence and a ban on participating in politics so

00:13:48.760 that's how it goes in brussels and that was eight years ago has the has the dust settled or is it

00:13:54.120 still a number of ongoing messy that like ongoing stuff with your members the dust sadly hasn't

00:14:01.240 settled at all so even this big trial that got me a prison sentence is still ongoing in a way

00:14:07.800 uh the 30th of december so i'll have some cozy holidays uh in the holiday season uh but the

00:14:13.880 30th of december my case will be tried for the supreme court so for over seven years now i've

00:14:21.240 been involved in a huge storm of lawfare so even my first and biggest case is still ongoing so

00:14:27.400 that's also the reason why i'm here and not not in prison uh i can still talk to you because the

00:14:31.800 case is ongoing uh but i have um i i've counted them a few weeks ago for another interview i have

00:14:38.520 12 ongoing court cases and criminal investigations right now some of them really for the silliest of

00:14:45.320 of reasons. I posted about it a few days ago. I was in court a few days ago for misgendering

00:14:53.240 because a university employee thought he was hurt and deeply shocked because he was

00:14:59.560 misgendered by one of us and because he received a test package of adult diapers from one of my

00:15:05.160 activists. So that's just the kind of stuff that I go to court and possibly to prison for.

00:15:10.760 I have this other criminal investigation because in Brussels, and you arrive by train, you will have noticed our train stations, 0.81

00:15:17.760 contrary to this beautiful gallery, our train stations are full of human feces and piss and drug dealers, robbers, pickpocketers.

00:15:26.760 And our propaganda branch of the regime made an article and they said last year there were 34% more pickpockets in the Brussels train stations.

00:15:36.760 And they used this stock photo of a white, red-headed guy with this article.

00:15:42.260 And I have this show.

00:15:43.780 I have a media channel.

00:15:45.020 I have a show every week where I talk about the news.

00:15:47.940 And I was just having a laugh with this article.

00:15:50.300 I just said, like, the chances of being pickpocketed by a white, red-headed guy are, like, close to zero.

00:15:56.700 This is not going to...

00:15:57.740 I mean, I will personally reimburse you if that would ever happen to you.

00:16:01.000 That's just not happening.

00:16:02.620 And then I said, like, the chances of being robbed by a...

00:16:06.180 and i'm not even gonna say it out loud because they may drag me to court if i say it out loud

00:16:10.020 again but i i named a few specific groups that are responsible for the large majority of pickpockets

00:16:18.100 in brussels and i said the chance of that happening that's significantly higher and they dragged me

00:16:23.220 they dragged me to the police headquarters for this made me do an investigation i also have a

00:16:27.620 court case because i linked mass migration to crime even though every serious scientist every

00:16:33.540 statistic will show this everyone with the serious intuition will know this but i'm being dragged to

00:16:38.260 court for this i've had to pay a 50 000 15 000 euro fine because they wrongly appointed at one

00:16:47.060 of my activists and said oh he's your bodyguard which is not the case i mean i'm perfectly capable

00:16:51.300 of defending myself i have a i have a boxing and jujitsu club but they wrongly labeled one of my

00:16:57.140 activists as a bodyguard and they said oh it's illegal to have a bodyguard in belgium if you are

00:17:01.780 not if you don't have a government permit 15 000 euros and every time i think well this is ridiculous

00:17:07.860 i can defend myself against this because i've done nothing wrong i get a good lawyer and in a

00:17:11.940 in a rule in a state where we have the rule of law it should be easy to win this but i lose time and

00:17:17.940 time again because no juridic argument will ever be enough if the regime in baljim says you have

00:17:25.060 to be convicted it's like stalin's guys who said give me the man and i'll i'll give you the crime

00:17:31.780 And that's just what's happening to me for seven years already in Belgium.

00:17:35.700 Do you think Belgium is a free country?

00:17:38.440 No, not at all. Not at all.

00:17:40.080 No, Belgium is...

00:17:41.380 We have a lot of gold medals internationally.

00:17:45.700 We have the highest taxes in the world, for example.

00:17:49.700 But I think we are on the podium as well when it comes to crackdown on opposition,

00:17:56.340 crackdown on right-wing activism.

00:17:58.580 Because leftists in this country, just to make it sure,

00:18:01.220 It's not like we have a country where there's a lot of order or where we just have a tyrannical regime.

00:18:06.380 No, we have an anarcho-tyrannical regime because leftists like Antifa, they can do whatever they want.

00:18:11.980 They can put buildings on fire.

00:18:13.620 They can break into companies, smash everything.

00:18:15.800 They can attack people.

00:18:17.040 They can really do what they want and they even get police escorts.

00:18:20.380 Again, every time when I say something and people are shocked or think that online, look it up yourself.

00:18:25.440 Antifa will attack a company in in Belgium with 200 people and they get

00:18:30.600 police escorts to the company and then back to like public transports that's

00:18:34.680 just what happens and they never get convicted but as a right-wing activist

00:18:37.920 when you link mass migration to crime you're immediately dragged to police

00:18:41.340 headquarters then dragged to court and if you don't have a lot of money to pay

00:18:44.460 for expensive lawyers you'll be dragged to prison as well which is what's

00:18:47.700 happening to me right now so no this is not at all a free country if you're

00:18:52.080 enjoying this interview and you want to support my work here in Canada and

00:18:55.380 help save free speech, go to GiveSendGo.com slash save free speech. You can watch the trailer for

00:19:00.940 my upcoming documentary, which talks about how Canadian citizens are targeted, smeared, and in

00:19:06.440 some cases, criminally persecuted, all for voicing the wrong opinion in Canada. Anyway, let's get back

00:19:12.440 to the interview. Thanks. Yeah, and a couple examples that you missed is like, you receive

00:19:19.720 death threats. People like you receive death threats. They don't care at all. That doesn't

00:19:24.220 get investigated at all um why why do you think that's the case why is that why is there that

00:19:29.080 strong bias well it's simply because they want me dead that that's just we have to be honest about

00:19:33.980 this and i'm i'm happy in a way um that because of the murder of charlie kirk which is a horrible

00:19:39.780 crime uh that more and more people are starting to see this truth this is not just a clashing of

00:19:45.520 ideas this is not a debate no uh our enemies they want us dead that's just how simple it is

00:19:51.620 when i get serious death threats and i'm not just meaning i don't just mean someone saying some

00:19:56.280 stuff on social media i'm saying you get a letter with someone who describes your route back and 0.98

00:20:01.780 forth to work and says one of these days i'll be on that route and i'll kill you when someone

00:20:07.020 sends credible death threats to my mother or when a group of men known to police uh for these crimes 0.72

00:20:13.480 when they attack me physically not very far from here and then afterwards send me a message and

00:20:18.820 say, when you come back to Brussels, we're going to do it again. When I go to police with this

00:20:22.680 evidence, it's just, it's dismissed by the public prosecutor. So there is no other conclusion than

00:20:28.120 that they want me dead. They want this to happen. And they've already killed right-wing activists 0.56

00:20:32.580 in this country. I mean, the regime itself, they killed Yannick Verdeck. Look that up. It's a

00:20:37.740 horrible case of a, more of a libertarian activist. He was not really a nationalist activist, more of

00:20:43.420 a libertarian activist. And they killed him in his own bedroom. And the reason I think why they

00:20:48.000 didn't do this to me is because i'm too well known as i said there is not a flemish person in this 1.00

00:20:53.520 this country or well like 95 of flemish people they know who i am i am now also very well known

00:20:59.440 internationally so they don't dare to do such a thing to me but they are hoping silently that some

00:21:06.080 left-wing lunatic will do the job for them yeah uh charlie kirk has definitely been like you know

00:21:12.400 woken a lot of people up like like the whole meme like hey these people want to kill you 0.98

00:21:17.200 like that's that's not a meme that's a real thing these people want you dead um and i'm wondering

00:21:21.840 if you could actually share a few more examples because i think on your twitter feed a couple

00:21:26.080 weeks ago you mentioned how someone was attacked with hammers and i feel like there's been things

00:21:30.160 in in germany or is that the same uh incidents just worth like i mean it's very common actually

00:21:36.400 for uh right-wing people to be subject to like political violence and not much really happening

00:21:41.760 about it yes for americans and potentially also canadians are not that familiar with the situation

00:21:48.160 of antifa in canada but this political violence is kind of a new thing i think of our left huge

00:21:55.920 left-wing violence but in europe we have a history of severe left-wing terrorism and left-wing

00:22:02.400 violence against people like me and i'm lucky in a way that in belgium we have a quite pacified

00:22:10.400 political activist scene so we don't really have a lot of right-wing activism i'm pretty much the

00:22:15.680 only big right-wing activist and we don't have a lot of left-wing activists so antifa isn't very

00:22:21.600 strong isn't too radical so they are radicalizing as i as i mentioned in the past year they are like

00:22:28.080 very or in a very organized way attacking buildings attacking groups of people attacking companies

00:22:33.600 but it's a kind of a new phenomenon but in countries like sweden germany austria antifa is

00:22:40.560 very very violent very militant and they will attack and kill people they will light houses

00:22:46.480 and cars on fire very regularly and the the example that you mentioned and that i also

00:22:51.600 mentioned quite a few weeks ago on my x account is of the hammer gang the antifa hammer gang and

00:22:56.800 And they have this habit of attacking right-wing activists and right-wing politicians with hammers.

00:23:03.820 So five or six people with hammers will show up and they will violently attack people with a hammer. 0.93

00:23:11.740 They want to really attack with a hammer, just not kill them. 0.66

00:23:18.080 I mean, they don't want to murder them, but they want to make sure that they are in a wheelchair or that they are plants for the rest of their lives. 0.99

00:23:25.300 So that's what they want to do.

00:23:26.800 And now one of these people of the Hammer Gang was elected in European Parliament. 0.98

00:23:31.480 And Hungary, one of the only countries that hasn't lost its sanity in the European Union,

00:23:37.320 Hungary wanted to take this person to court.

00:23:41.480 I think her name is Ilya Saris.

00:23:43.600 They wanted to get this person to court to convict her for being part of this Hammer Gang, this Antifa Hammer Gang. 0.71

00:23:50.080 And the European Parliament actually voted with a majority to not lift her immunity.

00:23:56.160 so we have someone who is part of a murderers gang a hammer gang in european parliament that's how

00:24:02.000 crazy reality is in europe why do you think antifa like i was traveling europe and i almost felt right 0.96

00:24:10.080 at home i'm like oh like all cops are bastards antifa stickers and like uh free palestine graffiti 0.92

00:24:16.800 everywhere i'm like oh this reminds me like home i'm curious like why do you think these people 0.98

00:24:21.120 are so vicious like why do you think like what do you think animates antifa to be so like uh

00:24:26.140 violently uh militant well nobody ever goes against them so even though in flanders we have a

00:24:33.020 i would say right-wing conservative majority in flanders um but still the regime itself the

00:24:39.780 belgian regime and you have a very difficult political structure in this country um but if

00:24:45.420 you are right-wing you will be sabotaged in every way even though most of our entrepreneurs are

00:24:49.820 right wing, a lot of them are nationalistic, but none of them will openly say so because you will

00:24:54.200 be sabotaged and worked against immediately. But if you're on the left, nobody will ever stand

00:24:58.840 against you. They have free reign to do whatever they want. And as I said, on the right, we think

00:25:05.340 about leftists as people who just don't understand. I mean, if we would be able to explain them,

00:25:10.180 if they'd listen, we'd be able to convince them to come to our side. But if you turn the table,

00:25:14.640 leftists see us as horrible people as malignant people who should be exterminated and killed not 0.99

00:25:20.080 convinced that's a huge difference and that's why they are so violent that's why they attack us all 0.97

00:25:25.200 the time so it's a huge huge difference we want to build something we want to build and renovate

00:25:31.120 western western uh society western civilization is a better word whilst the left just wants to

00:25:37.280 destroy it that's also why on the right if you would ask some mainstream right-wing politician

00:25:42.720 about me they will they will be scared to give their opinion about me but if you would ask a

00:25:47.440 leftist politician about some antifa group or some leftist extremists they will say oh no problem no

00:25:53.920 oh maybe some methods but oh he's a good guy they have the right ideals that is because on the right

00:26:00.720 let's see western civilization as a house if i'm building this house and next to me is some i don't

00:26:06.800 know some some moderate conservative or a libertarian or whatever people on the

00:26:12.380 right and we're all building this house what a lot of right-wingers do wrong is

00:26:17.000 they will endlessly debate and discuss how this house should be built someone

00:26:21.080 will want a wooden staircase another one will want a marble staircase another one

00:26:25.620 will want a an iron staircase and you're endlessly discussing on the other side

00:26:30.860 of the spectrum leftists they don't want to build a house they don't want to

00:26:33.740 build western civilization they want to tear it down they are deconstructing the nuclear family 0.94

00:26:38.520 deconstructing race deconstructing the nation that's all they do they want to destroy and then 1.00

00:26:43.700 it's easy to get along of course if you have let's say a socialist or an egalitarianist and he's he's

00:26:49.600 using a little a little hammer to tear down the house and they have someone from antifa or a

00:26:53.980 left-wing terrorist who comes with a bulldozer to to smash the house down they're not going to

00:26:58.820 discuss they're both destroying it there's nothing to debate really they just want to destroy so

00:27:03.700 that's why they get along easily and that's why their extremists are given free reign and that's

00:27:09.220 why on the right we are losing losing time and energy in petty discussions about small differences

00:27:16.020 and that's what we need to change and i'm hoping that the murder the horrible murder of charlie

00:27:21.620 kirk will finally have woken some people up that if we don't cooperate right now we're not only

00:27:27.540 going to lose but they will literally kill us they will literally eradicate us genocide us 0.97

00:27:33.300 so there is no time to waste and we have to cooperate uh what do you think is the biggest

00:27:38.020 threat to western civilization well it's obviously mass migration but then on a deeper level and i'm 0.96

00:27:45.460 i'm quite sure that many of your audience will have thought about this a little bit deeper than

00:27:49.860 just a mass migration aspect of it on a deeper level it's our self-hate i think it's our lack

00:27:56.500 of pride in who we are it's our our lack of self-awareness as well and i'm i'm gonna mention

00:28:02.820 a few words and i have to be very careful in what i say because a lot of these subjects are literally

00:28:07.540 illegal in belgium to discuss anything that goes about race or ethnicity is banned in belgium to

00:28:12.740 discuss so i'm going to leave that up to the uh the thoughts of of our audience today but we have

00:28:18.900 to realize who we are and with we i'm not just saying the flemish or the belgians or even

00:28:24.260 europeans we are a group of people i have to say i have to as i said i have to watch my words but

00:28:30.820 we are a group of people that are being attacked from all angles worldwide and if we are not

00:28:36.340 first going to start to realize who we are and then going to defend ourselves and and start to

00:28:42.340 dream of a better future for our children to create a safe future for our children then we're going to

00:28:48.020 disappear from the world and if we disappear from the world and that's a more meta political and

00:28:53.620 philosophical aspect of it if we if our group if our you know what i mean by group disappears

00:28:59.780 from the world the world will go it's going down the drain we we are are if we would rediscover

00:29:06.820 who we are we could colonize the stars once again we could save every animal species we could save

00:29:12.340 nature we could clean the oceans that's what we do but if we disappear from the world our oceans

00:29:17.300 will be polluted every species will be hunted to extinction and there is no way that we are ever

00:29:22.100 going to get a rocket in the in the sky again let alone a simple airplane that's just what's

00:29:27.140 gonna happen so if we want a future for humanity we our group must rediscover who we are i must

00:29:33.780 reclaim our leading position in the world i i want to talk about this but now i like as a foreigner

00:29:40.180 am i am i going to get in trouble if i no no you won't yeah okay um because one of my questions

00:29:44.980 was going to be what what kind of role do you think tribalism plays in uh in politics in in 2025

00:29:52.500 you kind of alluded to it there but um i can i can answer it and i'll just be i'll just be uh

00:29:59.460 speaking code again attentive to what i'm saying of course but tribalism has always been there it's

00:30:05.220 always the leading factor in politics and especially when you're mixing tribes then it just 0.95

00:30:10.740 it becomes heated and this tribalism will become possibly the sole factor driving people's

00:30:16.100 motivation in a democracy as we call this horrible system that we have today so that's just in a

00:30:22.180 multicultural society people will just be voting along ethnic and religious lines or tribal lines

00:30:28.740 so it's nowadays it's just becoming ever more clear to everyone that tribalism will be the

00:30:34.660 deciding uh deciding uh philosophy in the coming centuries especially in europe but then again i'm

00:30:42.340 returning to my previous answer it's so urgent that we find our tribe again or the other tribes 0.95

00:30:48.580 are just going to push us out and even i'm not even exaggerating they will genocide us in the

00:30:54.020 end possibly by replacement migration and possibly by other violent means as well so i like what you

00:31:01.860 said about how one of the biggest challenges isn't just immigration but it's sort of like the self

00:31:06.420 hatred that a lot of european stock people have that's definitely the case in canada

00:31:11.460 and i almost feel like every western country has its own version of a white guilt myth like you

00:31:20.140 know in british in britain you have the colonization uh in the usa you have slavery they recently

00:31:26.080 came up with one in canada that all these residential schools run by christians and

00:31:30.920 catholics was actually genociding natives yeah when they were just trying to teach them english 0.99

00:31:35.060 but uh what's the version um well do you agree with that and and what's the version specifically

00:31:40.160 for belgio yes i completely agree with this and i'll first love to point out a simple principle

00:31:46.640 if we want to win as europeans worldwide i'm also talking about canadians americans australians

00:31:53.200 if we want to win as europeans it's just a matter of changing our mentality there are no huge

00:31:59.920 logistical efforts that we would have to go through i mean we can send them back within 24

00:32:04.720 hours if you really want to it's so simple it's just our mentality that has to change

00:32:10.240 and for that to change we first need to get rid of these guilt myths we have been taught from a

00:32:16.240 very young age that our history as europeans is nothing more than colonialism than the holocaust

00:32:22.800 than the crusades that's just the guilt that we are being beaten down with again and again and again

00:32:28.320 first at school in propaganda but later on also through songs through movies through constant

00:32:33.520 relentless propaganda guilt propaganda and we just have to get rid of this uh what we did as

00:32:39.120 europeans is what we had to do and what we have to do as europeans and i'm i'm gonna shut up about 0.57

00:32:45.040 a few subjects of course but let's just let's quickly talk about colonialism because that's

00:32:49.280 what we are we belgians are mostly beaten beaten down with also because some of us collaborated

00:32:54.800 with the germans uh 70 years ago but i cannot talk about that but when it comes to colonialism

00:33:00.800 we're constantly being taught that King Leopold, who is then now one of us, which was not the case

00:33:06.800 at all. King Leopold oppressed the Flemish, so my people, possibly more so than he did the Congolese.

00:33:15.520 But we are now being taught that this was our fault, what happened, even though we had nothing

00:33:19.840 to do with it. But it's all lies as well. It's just propaganda. It's made of propaganda. And

00:33:26.000 And there's this very good book by Bruce Gilley.

00:33:29.160 He writes about the case for colonialism.

00:33:31.360 That's the title of the book, a very good book.

00:33:33.320 And he kind of dispels a lot of these myths

00:33:35.380 about colonialism.

00:33:36.440 And I'm not gonna explain the whole book.

00:33:38.600 We don't have time for that.

00:33:39.560 But one of the interesting things that he says was,

00:33:42.140 whenever colonists would arrive in a country, anywhere,

00:33:45.920 so any type of Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Flemish,

00:33:50.520 English, doesn't really matter.

00:33:52.040 Whenever they would arrive,

00:33:53.240 people from huge swaths of land would flock to the colonialists because they knew that

00:33:59.100 these colonialists would give them a better life, that they would give them safety, food, medicine.

00:34:03.700 So people flocked there.

00:34:05.100 So there was no oppression.

00:34:06.440 There was no danger coming from these colonialists. 0.89

00:34:08.700 No, there was a better life coming from these colonists.

00:34:10.720 We now see also that countries who were colonized for a longer period of time are doing much

00:34:15.840 better than countries who were colonized for a short period of time.

00:34:18.920 I mean, look at Haiti.

00:34:20.320 I mean, they were liberated from the oppressors first, and they are now literally eating mud and starving to death in one of the most fertile countries on earth.

00:34:29.280 So we did nothing wrong.

00:34:31.660 And I think most Africans, if you really talk to them in depth, will agree that life was much better when the white man was still present in their countries. 0.91

00:34:42.020 And then when it comes to the Congo, we are being taught that they are launching all these ridiculous numbers. 0.51

00:34:46.800 Oh, the Belgians killed 7 million Congolese, 8 million Congolese, 10 million Congolese. 0.56

00:34:51.140 I mean, just throw a number and it'll stick.

00:34:53.680 While in reality, we killed barely any Congolese at all.

00:34:57.800 I mean, I think Bruce Gilley points to a few thousands that were killed due to laboring for Belgians. 1.00

00:35:03.940 But there was no genocide at all in the Congo.

00:35:06.940 And I even think that, and most serious scientists agree, that we brought a period of stability, peace and prosperity to the country.

00:35:14.620 And if you ask them now, most Congolese live either in war or in crime-ridden cities with no plumbing, no electricity, in dirt, in squalor.

00:35:25.540 A lot of them longed for the time that the Belgians were still there. 0.79

00:35:28.780 Which is not to say that King Leopold and his cronies didn't do anything wrong.

00:35:32.660 As I said, they impressed my people more than any other people on earth.

00:35:37.200 But we really need to get far away from this white guilt.

00:35:41.380 if we want to save our nations and build a future for our children.

00:35:45.720 Yeah, yeah.

00:35:46.540 Real quick on that, because I spoke to someone about Belgian politics,

00:35:50.680 knowing I was going to talk to you, and he's like a liberal guy,

00:35:53.660 but he rattled off the like, yeah, the Belgians chopped off Congolese their hands

00:35:59.400 every time they didn't yield enough rubber.

00:36:02.440 But I feel like that's always the case where normies or center leftists,

00:36:06.860 they always get taught some specific atrocity, like something that's visual,

00:36:10.780 something that's visceral and it just like sticks yes even though it's not even true or it's a huge

00:36:15.820 oversimplification and that's what i think is the common thing with these white guilt myths which is

00:36:21.420 and they act as if it was all this horrible negative thing not at all looking at any of

00:36:26.380 the positives that came of it yeah so belgians of course didn't chop off any hands in the congo

00:36:31.580 there's a few famous pictures completely out of context that had nothing to do with the belgians

00:36:35.980 let alone belgians chopping off any hands in the congo so that of course didn't happen but that's

00:36:41.340 just how how the left goes they will they will find some myth and then blow it out of proportion

00:36:47.420 and and guilt trip us with this endlessly and endlessly i have this very good anecdote about

00:36:52.380 this when the belgians arrived in the congo there were arab slave traders present and they were

00:36:59.020 paying certain congolese tribes to go after other congolese tribes to to get slaves and 0.99

00:37:05.340 and then sell them for the slave trade so when the belgians arrived they actually went to war with 0.85

00:37:10.060 these arab slave traders and quite a few belgians mercenaries because it wasn't the the official

00:37:16.060 belgian army at that time but belgian mercenaries who were fighting the arab slavers died and there

00:37:21.660 is a monument dedicated to these belgians who who back then were regarded as heroes fighting the

00:37:27.740 barbaric slave trade so that's what we were doing there we were doing good stuff and there is a 0.96

00:37:33.740 monument dedicated to these heroes here in belgium and it says that uh basically i don't know the

00:37:39.900 literal stuff but it says belgian fighters who died in a fight against the arab slave traders

00:37:45.740 in the congo and you have to know that nowadays brussels we have like one percent flemish people 1.00

00:37:51.180 left in brussels it's a completely foreign city that's also why none of the people passing by us 1.00

00:37:55.660 recognize me if he would do this interview in antwerp ghent or bruges or whatever a lot of

00:37:59.900 people would be coming to ask for pictures and some leftists may may say some not so very nice

00:38:04.940 words to me but this is for us a completely foreign city nowadays a lot of arabs live here

00:38:10.860 so the politicians in brussels to appease the arabs they went to this monument and they uh

00:38:16.780 tore out the piece that said arab slave trade no way so they they chiseled it out they chiseled

00:38:21.820 out this piece that says arab so they are literally literally changing and rewriting

00:38:26.460 history to appease the new arab citizens of brussels and i did an action a few years ago and i

00:38:32.780 let i made a new piece of stone i had it made that said arab and i pasted it in with this uh

00:38:38.940 silicone paste i pasted it in so it was restored in its real glory and and it was once again giving

00:38:46.380 honor to the people who literally died protecting the congolese people and then a few years days

00:38:52.140 later the brussels regime got it out again so they really want to rewrite history to uh basically

00:38:58.780 appease the arabs and to beat down our own people while the roles in history were reversed yeah 1.00

00:39:06.140 um i want to talk about immigration and i think i think it was something that uh nick fuentes said

00:39:11.020 at one point because he was talking about europe he was talking about immigration and it seems like

00:39:14.620 it's the one policy even when more and more of the people in the country want to reverse it

00:39:19.740 it's the one policy that doesn't seem to change like the the current uh prime minister of italy

00:39:26.060 she was a fascist she hasn't really done that much to reverse immigration uh there was uh the 0.98

00:39:30.700 one conservative leader in netherland uh brutes uh yeah and it's like like why do you think this

00:39:37.180 is happening where it's like okay now there's a sentiment that's anti-immigrant but it's still

00:39:41.660 like these center-right politicians grab that like that energy but they they don't actually act on it

00:39:46.860 what do you think is happening here what's your theory that is the biggest question i think of

00:39:50.700 the 21st century especially when it comes to uh policy and migration policy that's a big mystery

00:39:55.980 and i've made quite a few lengthy videos and and articles about this because it's a question we

00:40:01.900 don't have a simple answer to what we do see indeed is that even if right-wing governments

00:40:07.980 are in power and there's not that many cases of this because most of the time when these things

00:40:13.100 happen it's a right-wing party that is in a coalition with some moderate parties or christian

00:40:18.820 democrat parties and then a lot of these right-wing parties will have an excuse like oh we wanted to

00:40:23.360 stop migration but our coalition partners did not allow us to to really stop it or to slow down the 0.95

00:40:29.140 numbers or or even turn the numbers around so they have an excuse but now in italy that's why a lot

00:40:35.120 of people are so angry at meloni and there is even a word it's it's meloniserum in german but it

00:40:40.960 it basically means like the melanification of politics it's it's a new term in politics

00:40:46.640 where we mean that you get elected on a platform that is anti-migration but then when you get into

00:40:51.200 politics you start importing huge numbers of migrants and in italy there is no excuse because 1.00

00:40:56.480 there's three parties in power you have lega which is a very right-wing party anti-migration

00:41:02.720 completely then you have a fratelli d'italia from meloni who was also elected on an anti-migration

00:41:09.520 platform. And you have Forza Italia, the party of former Berlusconi who died a few years ago.

00:41:15.680 They were also very anti-migration. So you have three parties who are branded all three as far

00:41:20.640 right or right-wing extremists who are anti-migration. And they all got elected for this.

00:41:26.160 But now that they are in power, they are just importing huge numbers of migrants. And for the 0.99

00:41:30.800 first years, even illegal migration was rising. I have to admit now that for a first year illegal

00:41:37.120 migration is lowering a little bit so they are not closing the borders they're not turning the boats

00:41:42.000 around but it's lowering a little bit due to many different reasons but legal migration is sky

00:41:47.760 rocketing so they are importing ever more numbers of legal migrants who in reality are in many cases

00:41:54.720 just as worse or even worse than the illegal migrants and that's a big mystery there's many 1.00

00:42:00.640 different reasons that can be the cause of this are they doing it because they are pressured

00:42:05.920 internationally italy is a country with huge debts that it has to pay maybe they are pressured and

00:42:11.120 maybe international finance whoever that may be are pressuring italy into accepting ever more

00:42:17.200 migrants maybe they do this because they are pressured by italian companies that want cheap 0.98

00:42:22.080 labor maybe they are doing this because they are caught as they often say themselves in this

00:42:27.840 international web of legislation and and and uh uh overdrag and uh like policies

00:42:38.640 bureaucracy nah not bureaucracy like the united nations charters etc for human rights

00:42:43.680 lots of red tape yeah maybe they are caught up in this that's what they say but i don't really buy

00:42:48.160 this i mean if you are elected to stop mass migration which is it's the sole really important

00:42:55.120 issue at hand here if i would be elected on such a platform and if i would then notice when i'm

00:43:00.640 in power i cannot do this because of this or that reason i would just be open about these two people

00:43:06.240 and i would say i resign we have to completely overhaul this system and that's possibly the

00:43:11.520 most important principle that i want to give the audience today and that is that saving our people

00:43:17.600 is all that matters everything that is in the way of saving our people must be destroyed

00:43:23.200 so a legislation or a treaty that's the word that i was searching for a legislation a treaty

00:43:30.400 even a debt even billions of that i don't care anything that stands in the way of saving our

00:43:36.000 people closing the borders and enacting re-migration on a massive scale must be eradicated so if a 0.97

00:43:41.120 politician then says oh we cannot do re-migration because of this law or this treaty then they

00:43:45.680 should either destroy this treaty or this law resign from it or resign from public office

00:43:50.560 completely because if not you're just you're you're uh in the way you're cheating the people

00:43:56.560 and you're in the way exactly and then you just have to admit that our current system democracy

00:44:01.920 is just not fit to save our people and then we need something else now to be clear i don't think

00:44:06.560 at this point in time we need something else and saying so would also be illegal imagine but

00:44:11.440 i'm just being cautious here i truly believe that within the current system we can save our people

00:44:17.680 but we just need politicians with the balls to resign from these treaties and to potentially, 0.81

00:44:22.880 and I'll go back a little bit, I don't think enacting mass re-migration and closing the borders

00:44:28.960 will lead to an economic downturn. Of course we will lose some cheap labor or whatever,

00:44:34.480 but I think that the benefits, even the economic benefits, completely outweigh the disadvantages

00:44:40.240 of re-enacting re-migration. But hypothetically, even if some of these left-wing economists would

00:44:46.000 be right even if hypothetically our economy would have a huge downturn from re-migration then i

00:44:52.480 still think it's worth it because saving our people is more important than the gdp going up

00:44:57.360 a few numbers or going down a few numbers i don't care about this i want my my children my daughters

00:45:02.640 to be safe to walk around to go out to have a walk in nature without me being terrified that

00:45:07.440 they're never going to return as many girls in the past years in europe have not returned to their

00:45:12.560 fathers that is the single most important thing and all the other things are are don't matter in in

00:45:18.880 comparison yeah well said well said i do want to bring up that the talking point that many boomers

00:45:25.280 bring up which is well who's going to pay for the pension we we need cheap foreign labor to pay for 0.98

00:45:31.520 the pension like like uh or i talked to i was in rome and i talked to the one guy and he's like

00:45:36.400 italians don't want to do this work is what i heard how would you respond to to those comments yeah

00:45:41.920 that's complete nonsense of course and they've been using this talking point for basically 50

00:45:47.600 years already that's what they said and it started in belgium with the mines we had a huge mining

00:45:53.120 operation going uh going on here in belgium and they started importing italians first and then

00:45:58.800 they started importing moroccans algerians turks etc and it wasn't because the flamish didn't want

00:46:04.880 to do the job no it was because the haute finance the high finance the rich people the rich elite

00:46:11.360 class in belgium just didn't want to pay high wages to the flemish people they wanted to pay 1.00

00:46:16.320 lower wages to have more money to put this money in monaco in switzerland back in the day nowadays

00:46:21.920 these people are in in london and in abu dhabi but back then they would be in monaco and in

00:46:26.400 switzerland hide all their money and they just didn't want to pay high wages to the flemish 1.00

00:46:30.480 people working in the mines so they imported people and that's exactly the same thing that 0.90

00:46:34.880 is happening now it's not that the flemish don't want to do this work it's that third worlders 1.00

00:46:39.440 will always want to do it cheaper the same thing is happening in america with the h1b scandal

00:46:44.640 it's not that the americans don't want to do the work no it's that a random indian guy from

00:46:48.640 mumbai wants to do the job for 30 less pay and then the big capital will always want more money

00:46:55.600 and they will always be importing these people from the other side of the world and we have to 0.96

00:47:00.160 stop that with legislation we have to really make it obligated to hire locals to hire native people

00:47:06.240 instead of hiring foreigners but then again also the numbers show that this is completely false

00:47:12.200 there's been enough scientific research over the past decades that foreigners will cost us a lot 1.00

00:47:19.160 more money than they will deliver us money we've seen now a new new research from a few weeks ago

00:47:25.180 that a somali migrant on average going to the netherlands will cost the netherlands taxpayers 0.99

00:47:31.360 1.2 million euros over his lifetime so are these people going to pay our

00:47:37.240 pensions of course they're not another research showed that African migrants 9

00:47:41.680 out of 10 will be on some sort of social welfare so these people are never going

00:47:46.240 to pay our punch pensions they are never going to work in big numbers and support

00:47:51.120 our economic system and even if they would I'll repeat that even if the crazy

00:47:55.060 hypothetical situation that they would which is not true to be clear even if

00:47:59.960 would be the case they would still not be welcome because i cherish our high trust

00:48:04.920 homogeneous communities more than i do a few numbers going up or down of the gdp

00:48:10.200 so you mentioned uh you know fighting the sort of white guilt and the self-hatred

00:48:14.600 you mentioned like this for whatever reason there's the policies there's the treaties that

00:48:19.640 are hard to like you know get out of the way to try and actually reverse immigration and

00:48:24.040 get re-migration policies is there any other major obstacles or major like important things

00:48:28.760 that the average like right-wing nationalist re-migrationist like should keep in mind or

00:48:33.000 that's like important to to pay attention to to solve this problem for the average

00:48:37.480 re-migrationist i would say we need to keep pushing the overtime window we've achieved

00:48:42.280 tremendous success over the past few years i mean look at look at the word re-migration for example

00:48:48.200 a few years ago this would be a fringe extreme right-wing word nowadays mainstream politicians

00:48:53.960 are using this the american president is using this word he's launching a new department of

00:48:59.640 re-migration they're constantly using this word in the netherlands a few years ago this would

00:49:03.960 have been looked at as something very radical and now in the new elections in two weeks there's

00:49:08.280 elections in the netherlands five different political parties have re-migration in their

00:49:13.640 election program so it's we're making huge successes over the past years and that is thanks

00:49:19.320 to the relentless effort of re-migration activists who have suffered great sacrifices to to achieve

00:49:26.680 this so i would say keep pushing and to all the other people i would just say be open about it

00:49:31.720 speak up the media who is very hostile and left-wing in in belgium and in the whole of

00:49:37.800 western europe constantly want to make it seem that if you are for re-migration if you want to

00:49:43.480 maintain our heritage maintain our high trust homogenous communities then you are an extremist

00:49:48.760 you're on your own you're isolated but in reality most of us think this way so if you are the first

00:49:54.360 at your job at your football club or whatever to speak up about it you will notice that a lot of

00:49:59.320 people will start speaking up and then it will go like a fire all through the country and eventually

00:50:04.600 the continent and this way we might be able to save our people there are no big obstacles there

00:50:10.280 are no real logistical obstacles there are no financial or economic obstacles there are even

00:50:16.440 there aren't even any legislative obstacles because laws can just be changed treaties can

00:50:20.680 just be withdrawn from the only real obstacle is in here it's in our head we need a change of

00:50:26.600 mentality we need to get rid of this white guilt and we need to be proud of who we are we need to

00:50:31.400 once again realize that we too are a tribe and we are a tribe under attack on a global scale and

00:50:37.000 once we realize that everything is possible i'm i sometimes say this on x and people think i'm

00:50:42.760 joking i'm not joking we can colonize the stars if we once again realize who we are i love it i love

00:50:49.240 it what is the most effective way to influence a political party or maybe just politics in general

00:50:57.080 in your opinion get well-spoken good-looking people to just come out open about their about

00:51:02.440 their opinion i mean in germany for example there was this trend a few months ago when the elections

00:51:09.080 came up and it was like girls for afd and you had there weren't even that many but you had like a

00:51:14.600 few dozen good-looking girls who would say that they were for afd that they felt unsafe and this 1.00

00:51:19.880 was a talk of the town on a national scale everyone was talking about this so we don't need a lot of

00:51:26.520 money we don't need a lot of people nowadays to achieve great results and that is a unique period

00:51:31.400 in history i think people do not realize this well enough but the period we live in right now is such

00:51:37.960 a historic period i would not have asked to live in any other moment of history than this

00:51:42.040 because never in in mankind's history have we had such opportunities to do so much for our people

00:51:49.560 a hundred years ago you would need millions are are in those days money to launch a new newspaper

00:51:56.520 to get a printing press to get offices to get employees to be able to spread your message

00:52:00.840 nowadays we we face a new revolution just like the printing press was a revolution of information

00:52:06.600 thanks to the free internet to social media a guy like you with a camera can interview me and we can

00:52:12.440 reach potentially hundreds of thousands or even tens of millions of people i made a video outside

00:52:17.720 the courthouse a few days ago and millions of people have watched this so even though the

00:52:22.600 belgian media will never ask me any comments they will never interview me they want to just slander 0.99

00:52:27.240 me without having me openly speak to the public but thanks to our social media thanks to a cheap

00:52:33.080 smartphone a thousand euros and you can reach the whole world this is a unique period in time

00:52:37.880 and i think we are not making good use of this right now people don't realize the opportunities

00:52:42.680 and the free internet was almost finished i mean since like let's say 2005 to 2015 or something we

00:52:49.560 had a period of free internet you could just look up anything you wanted you could spread any

00:52:53.480 information you wanted but then they started cracking down on this i mean i was censored

00:52:58.120 i almost lost all of my social media and i thought this window of opportunity it's closed and we

00:53:03.960 didn't use it to save our people but thanks to elon musk and and also donald trump for all of

00:53:09.160 their faults they gave us free speech all across the world not only for americans but also for

00:53:14.680 europeans the only reason i think why we can have this interview and spread it to a lot of people

00:53:19.480 is thanks to donald trump and elon musk who gave us another window of opportunity for free

00:53:24.280 free speech, free use of the internet and to spread our message and potentially save

00:53:30.360 our people.

00:53:31.360 So people are asking me, oh, what can Americans do for us in Europe?

00:53:34.720 They can give us freedom of speech, which is really the only thing we need.

00:53:39.500 They can keep us out of prison and if they can keep our voices heard, we'll win eventually

00:53:43.320 because we have the truth on our side.

00:53:45.600 We have morality on our side.

00:53:47.600 So that's so important.

00:53:49.260 And we now have received a new chance for freedom of speech.

00:53:53.080 have to make good use of it because by the next presidential elections it may all be over i'm

00:53:58.280 hoping that some new republican who is uh in favor of freedom of speech will win of course but if a

00:54:05.000 democrat wins it's all over for us in europe because the new legislation it's drafted already

00:54:10.520 they want to shut down the internet they want to create central bank digital currency so that

00:54:15.080 people cannot donate to people like me anymore it's already difficult right now most of the banks

00:54:19.880 will throw me out but i can still receive some form of donations but once cbdc's are in play

00:54:24.760 i can never receive any donations i cannot do any kind of business anymore they want to launch a new

00:54:29.880 digital identity where people have to log into social media using their real identity they cannot

00:54:35.160 be anonymous and for me i'm not anonymous i'm just using my own name but you see how many lawfare how

00:54:40.920 many sabotage i face because of this for a lot of ordinary people that's just not a luxury that they

00:54:46.040 they can afford, they don't have the ability to crowdfund for expensive lawyers, etc.

00:54:50.860 So once these digital identities come into play, there will be no possibility for them

00:54:56.320 to spread a re-migration message.

00:54:58.600 And that's the future we face once the free internet shuts down, once someone else gets

00:55:04.040 into the White House.

00:55:05.040 So we have a few more years where we really have to get this done because we cannot waste

00:55:09.660 this opportunity again as a people.

00:55:12.800 and what would you say to somebody who's maybe sort of on the fence like they they see your

00:55:16.480 content they see what you're doing they agree with you but like maybe they have a job or maybe

00:55:21.360 they have a friend they're afraid of the consequence of speaking out what would you like your pep

00:55:26.640 pep talk be to like motivate them to encourage them to uh to speak up and say something there

00:55:31.840 is nothing more important than the fight and the struggle for the future of our people and our

00:55:37.280 children if you do nothing now out of fear of perhaps losing a few friends out of fear who are

00:55:44.240 not really friends but out of fear of losing your job or losing a financial opportunity or whatever

00:55:51.520 if you are fearful of losing that then eventually you will lose everything you will lose your safety

00:55:57.440 your heritage your family your job everything you will lose everything if you are not coming 0.91

00:56:03.040 off the fence right now and joining the fight for our people it's so important that we use

00:56:08.240 this opportunity we may only have a few years left of freedom of speech to speak up before

00:56:13.600 it's too late before cbdc's and digital identity is implemented we're gonna have to do this right

00:56:19.520 now so get off the fence and get working and what do you do like like you've been through a lot

00:56:26.240 and uh you've gotten used to it you've built thick skin obviously but um how do you push through all

00:56:32.160 of this persecution this obscene unbelievable persecution how do you push through all this

00:56:39.040 well it's because i don't see this as a choice if you see this as a choice

00:56:44.960 rather than a duty then every day you will be faced with very difficult choices if you have to

00:56:51.040 be in doubt whether you will say something if then at the christmas party your leftist aunt

00:56:57.120 will give you a side eye then you're going to lose all of your persuasiveness if you have to be in

00:57:03.440 doubt over doing a certain action if it may lead to a fine or if it may even lead to a court case

00:57:09.280 you will lose your energy and your drive to do these actions but if you like me decide that the

00:57:15.680 future of our people that the future of our children is worth some sacrifices then you will

00:57:21.840 have the energy then you will have the drive then you will have the persuasiveness and people often

00:57:26.000 come up to me they say how how are you enduring all of this i mean i've had to pay close pay close

00:57:31.040 to 400 000 euros in lawyer fees over the past seven years that's that's i mean the average

00:57:36.800 house that's what my parents had to save up all of their life for to buy such a such a house um

00:57:42.640 well they ask me how i do it and they say i just say this is my duty it's not this is not a choice

00:57:48.160 i'm not saying every morning am i going to to keep pushing am i going to do this no i'm just

00:57:52.560 going to do it i'm going to give my life for this i'm prepared to give my life for this we as

00:57:58.240 individuals are not important i will be dead hopefully in a few in a few decades uh perhaps

00:58:04.400 even sooner and people will soon forget me but our people will live on and that's what we are a part

00:58:10.400 of and i'm i'm very willing to sacrifice my own well-being for the future of our people that's

00:58:17.120 what our ancestors did for millennia and that's what i'm going to continue doing what i'm doing

00:58:21.760 is not crazy what i'm doing is exactly the same that our ancestors have been doing for thousands

00:58:26.240 upon thousands even hundreds of thousands of years what other people are doing simply regarding their

00:58:31.680 own life as a as a start and an ending instead of as a chain of generations that is weird that is

00:58:38.080 unworldly that is completely an anomaly in in the history of mankind so what i'm doing is actually

00:58:44.480 quite normal even though it may seem crazy to some people if you want to support dries this belgian 1.00

00:58:49.760 nationalist in his ongoing court battle, then go to givesango.com slash Dries, D-R-I-E-S to support

00:58:56.860 him there. It'll be greatly appreciated. Very well said. I would have been traveling Europe,

00:59:03.460 right? And when it comes to like the most iconic locations, a lot of the time, half the time,

00:59:09.040 it's usually a cathedral. Do you think that Christianity and religion plays a major role

00:59:14.760 this sort of political struggle we're in right now it may in some countries but not in belgium

00:59:21.240 we have a an interesting history when it comes to religion we used to be the most catholic part

00:59:27.400 in the world possibly maybe with spain a close second or a first but we used to be very very

00:59:35.080 catholic and nowadays i think we are one of the most atheistic countries in the world we've also

00:59:41.080 been really pushed with this pedophilia scandal in the church and i i completely agree that 0.98

00:59:47.000 pedophiles i mean from my regard they should be hanged whether they are priests or not i don't 0.99

00:59:51.640 care they should all be hanged but that really destroyed a lot of the the credibility of the 1.00

00:59:57.400 church in in in flanders so we have very few catholics left we have the traditional catholic 0.98

01:00:04.440 latin mass regaining some strength and i see a lot of young families joining us there

01:00:09.240 but there's not many many catholics left sadly in belgium so it doesn't really play a big role

01:00:15.880 in our current political uh debate but through our history as you will notice whenever you come

01:00:21.960 to one of our cities our towns there's a big churches everywhere we used to be very catholic

01:00:27.160 and i think a lot of people need to realize that they seem to be loving the fruits of our catholic

01:00:34.920 tree but they want to denounce the tree they want to chop down the tree but they still want to enjoy

01:00:39.240 the fruits they love our architecture they love the fact that we are polite to each other they

01:00:43.880 love our traditional families and whatnot but they hate the catholic church mostly because of these

01:00:49.320 pedophilia scandals so i would say to them if you enjoy the fruits you're gonna have to be uh to be

01:00:54.840 mindful of the tree to respect the tree as well and that's difficult for some people absolutely

01:01:00.280 what do you think is like then we're talking about the white guilt but aside from that is

01:01:04.040 there like what it's like the number one like psyop or like psychological operation that you

01:01:08.360 think is like influencing uh the average european or the average white belgian person to hate 0.78

01:01:13.720 themselves well firstly it's that white people or the white race doesn't exist that's what we're

01:01:20.120 constantly being said we are all one people egalitarianism is is basically the new religion

01:01:26.760 worldwide by the way it's also a huge problem in in america canada australia and whatever

01:01:33.400 it's it's egalitarianism i think that is at the root of pretty much all of our problems now the

01:01:39.640 problem is that if i want to be open about this i will say things that are punishable with a prison

01:01:44.920 sentence in belgium because you are not allowed to go against egalitarianism even stating that

01:01:49.640 there are that there are different peoples and that there are differences between these peoples

01:01:55.400 is illegal in belgium because that immediately holds a a value proposition between these people

01:02:03.240 and that is illegal so i at a certain point i made i was i was giving a lecture at the catholic

01:02:10.520 university of leuven which is supposed to be the lesser left-wing university in belgium but sadly

01:02:17.240 all of our universities are either extreme left-wing or left-wing and kyle is left-wing

01:02:23.880 But I gave a lecture there and a former head, like the former dean of the university, the big boss of the university, he said that he doesn't agree with me because he holds no prejudices against people and he wants to judge people as individuals, not as groups, blah, blah, blah.

01:02:42.520 You know how it goes.

01:02:43.920 And in this lecture, I received a question from a student about this and he said, could you give your opinion about this?

01:02:49.400 And I had to be very, very careful because, of course, I cannot say stuff like this group exists and this group exists.

01:02:55.660 And I like this group more because this and this and this and that group less because this and that is completely illegal in Belgium.

01:03:01.180 So I didn't do such a thing.

01:03:02.680 Now, what I said was, I hold prejudices and so do you.

01:03:07.300 We all hold prejudices.

01:03:09.140 And I gave a few examples and I said them as questions, so not as statements.

01:03:13.820 What I said was, if you would have to enroll your child in a school and you would be able to choose between two schools in your village, which is quite often the case in Flanders.

01:03:27.040 So it's not a completely hypothetical scenario.

01:03:30.000 If you would have to choose between school, number one, which has a lot of African-looking children.

01:03:36.140 So I didn't even say African children.

01:03:37.820 I said African-looking children.

01:03:39.400 Everyone can make up for themselves what such children would look like.

01:03:43.820 you would be able to choose between such a school and then you would have a second school school

01:03:48.780 number two which has a lot of flemish looking children and flemishes people think there are 1.00

01:03:53.820 there are no belgians we have flemish and balloons flemish is just like me and some of the people

01:03:58.300 walking around here sure and the second school has a lot of flemish looking children what school

01:04:03.020 would you choose for your child and then i said most people i didn't even say that i would make

01:04:08.540 such a show i said most people will choose the second school what we see is that even

01:04:13.260 leftist politicians who claim diversity is our strength and we need to import an ever-growing

01:04:18.620 number of migrants from the third world even they will not simply enroll their children in 1.00

01:04:24.780 the second type of schools with Flemish-looking children they will sometimes drive over an hour

01:04:30.060 to such a school to enroll their children there and you have for Canada for people from Canada 0.97

01:04:35.180 an hour is is very short for people in Flanders that's huge that's half of the country so driving

01:04:40.380 an hour for a school is outworldly it's crazy right but we have examples of leftist politicians

01:04:47.100 driving over an hour to be able to enroll their children in a almost completely white school i

01:04:52.780 didn't even i didn't even use the word white in the lecture but for stating that for stating that

01:04:58.140 most people would choose the second i got a court case for this i actually had to face court uh

01:05:04.540 three weeks ago in Leuven for this statement because they say that by doing so I am saying

01:05:10.860 that there are different groups of people and that some groups are superior to other groups

01:05:16.860 and that is under the law against white supremacist thinking it's a punishable offense in Belgium.

01:05:22.060 I didn't even mention race I didn't even say like Flemish looking children are smarter than 1.00

01:05:26.860 African looking children I said no such thing I simply I simply asked a question to my audience

01:05:33.500 to make them see that even they hold prejudices and that it's completely normal as well i mean

01:05:39.660 evolutionary thinking pattern recognition is probably the most important trait in mankind's

01:05:46.300 history without this we would have all been eaten by lions and drowned by by building our our campsite

01:05:52.220 next to a river or by trying to pet a saber-toothed tiger so pattern recognition is what made us

01:05:58.220 evolve into the humans that we are today or at least to the humans that we were 50 or 60 years

01:06:03.020 ago because we have lost the skill of pattern recognition due to propaganda but this is simply

01:06:08.220 illegal in belgium so i cannot fully answer your question uh but combating egalitarianism especially

01:06:14.220 in countries where this is still legal is the most important thing that you can do what can you just

01:06:20.140 list off the name of this law so i can look it up yeah it's the law against white the law against

01:06:26.780 the spreading of white supremacist uh ideas that's interesting send it to you it's interesting

01:06:32.780 because it doesn't really sound like it's opposing one ideology you described it is is if you oppose

01:06:38.860 like the ruling state ideology of egalitarianism then you get charged yes yes yes exactly um and

01:06:44.940 that sounds i know a guy who lives in turkey that sounds like the law in turkey which is like you

01:06:48.780 can't disagree with the ruling if you offend the ruling religion or ideology then you will get

01:06:53.420 arrested for that in turkey yeah exactly that's pretty much the argument that my lawyer made in

01:06:58.620 another case where i was convicted for this law already so i have ongoing court cases but i've

01:07:03.900 also lost court cases for these uh these things i am also already convicted uh for this law and

01:07:10.460 my lawyer used the same arguments but the judge didn't care of course um so i do want to mention

01:07:16.300 mannequin piss because i was touring around here and i like i it was like a cult it was like everyone 0.54

01:07:22.300 was so upset like like how do you feel about mannequin piss when you have all these beautiful

01:07:26.700 cathedrals all this beautiful architecture and there seems to be this huge disproportionate

01:07:30.940 amount of energy on this pissing statue it's it's truly belgians don't care about monica 0.92

01:07:37.500 peace or flemish people don't care about monica peace um if you would ask a flemish person what

01:07:43.020 are you proud of they will mention cities like bruges ghent and or brussels as well i mean

01:07:49.500 really a city center the the grand plus the a great uh a great market square of brussels

01:07:54.620 it's beautiful it may may even be one of the most beautiful places in the world i mean i would

01:07:59.500 really recommend if you visit belgium visit bruges it's so beautiful i would say venice is number one

01:08:05.020 bruges is number two it's so beautiful that is what we are as flamish our medieval history our

01:08:11.180 medieval architecture it's so beautiful well maintained as well our our cuisine is i mean

01:08:18.060 one of the best in the world i would say that's stuff we're proud of monica piece is really

01:08:22.460 irrelevant in belgian history and irrelevant to most of the inhabitants of belgium but it's a

01:08:27.500 tourist thing i mean all the tourists want pictures there uh there they sell these little

01:08:31.980 statues of mannequin piss but truly most people don't care about it at all i guess the reason i

01:08:37.180 brought it up is it reminds me of another thing that i think preys upon white people which is like

01:08:41.980 this degeneracy like you know i feel like like white people are fed a lot of degeneracy of like 0.79

01:08:47.020 just like partying and like that's where you find your meaning in life and like i was at the mannequin

01:08:50.940 pissed at you yeah and i saw all these like you know millennials like taking photos with it it

01:08:55.500 looked like hippies or whatever but yeah the thing the thing is i i don't want to go too deep into

01:09:02.140 this but uh because it sounds a little bit conspiracy like and i don't know if it's that

01:09:06.220 the case but i think a lot of the things that we are naturally proud of our beautiful architecture

01:09:12.460 statues of city centers um they can be linked in some way especially by lift leftists to our

01:09:19.100 colonial history uh to oppression and this was built by racists and that's often what they do

01:09:25.580 i mean in america as well oh this university was founded by a racist so we're gonna have to tear

01:09:29.820 it down in america they they have few very old houses left but if some slave trader once lived

01:09:35.340 there you have to burn it down the house that's how they think and that thinking has kind of

01:09:40.620 infected a lot of the minds in belgium as well so that's potentially why they are not too proud of 0.97

01:09:46.380 this and they are proud of something that is very uh very easy to be uh to be promoted like 0.94

01:09:52.300 monica piss which i mean that's not a colonial thing yeah it's not threatening the ridiculous

01:09:57.340 thing is also if you mention our cities they will say oh most of the leftists and especially the 0.91

01:10:02.700 migrants even like that's the funny thing migrants from morocco or whatever who were part of the arab 1.00

01:10:08.380 slave traders literally trading congolese slaves so the thing that we stopped the moroccans will 1.00

01:10:13.420 then say oh your cities were built with slave labor they were built with money from the congo

01:10:19.180 it's so ridiculous when they say these things but most of our cities were actually built centuries

01:10:25.260 before the discovery of africa and the congo we were most prosperous during the medieval era so

01:10:33.260 it's funny it seems as though a lot of immigrants who come to white western countries before even

01:10:38.700 learning the language they will learn how to guilt white people exactly exactly that's i mean they 0.69

01:10:45.180 know nothing about history but they know how to guilt trip white people into giving them ever more

01:10:50.860 free health care free housing stuff like that and the funny the funny thing is that they don't even

01:10:55.500 know their own history because they or at least their ancestors uh were the slave traders we

01:11:01.020 stopped the slave trading yeah um i wanted to talk about stuff like in the right wing uh echo chamber

01:11:06.540 for a second so like in north america there's sort of an ongoing debate between how do we solve

01:11:13.960 these problems as like the far right or as uh you know nationalists and some people are saying we

01:11:19.280 need to you know infiltrate into the political arena other people are saying screw that and

01:11:24.340 they're kind of just doing the active club thing or only focused on that and you're kind of doing

01:11:28.960 both so are you aware of this sort of debate and sort of like what's your what are your thoughts

01:11:34.720 on this please well we have uh we have debated this many times over of course because um schild

01:11:41.360 and vrinden my movement which is impossible to translate but it was basically combining both

01:11:48.000 eight years ago we had a huge movement of high potential mostly young men also also women mostly

01:11:55.200 young men who were all very bright intelligent people most of them studying at university and

01:12:01.280 And we were actually on route to completely taking over the political arena in the country.

01:12:06.900 I mean, 900 high potentials, those are huge.

01:12:10.100 That would be the same as having hundreds of thousands of people in America.

01:12:13.780 So huge numbers.

01:12:15.600 So we were on our way to really take over the political arena.

01:12:20.660 But at the same time, we were also launching boxing clubs.

01:12:23.540 We were doing political actions on the streets, convincing people, stickering, flyering.

01:12:28.540 we were also really like doing a boots on the ground approach as many different organizations

01:12:34.240 do so we were combining both but then again you have to always look at the success of an idea to

01:12:40.120 see whether the idea was good and we were cracked down upon heavily we were we had 20 house raids

01:12:48.180 50 interrogations 12 lawsuits so it's it's very difficult to say that this is the solution i mean

01:12:54.800 look at how horrible the results were for many of our activists and i'm i'm i mean i'm very

01:13:00.080 combative as you can see that i'm facing a lot of trouble on a daily basis i mean my company

01:13:05.280 is being sabotaged in every possible way i face i have to be in court every two weeks for the

01:13:10.160 most stupid reasons it's very hard on my family as well so it's difficult for me to say to other

01:13:15.600 people you have to do exactly as i am doing no i would say in every country there's a completely 0.94

01:13:21.040 different approach necessary by coincidence in two days i'm going to be traveling to another

01:13:27.840 european country to give a lecture on activism but when i do these things when i teach what i've

01:13:33.280 learned over the past 15 years about activism when i teach this to young activists i always

01:13:39.200 emphasize the fact that every country needs a different approach if you would nowadays do what

01:13:44.800 we did eight years ago you would immediately be sent to jail in belgium so the political climate

01:13:50.400 has become much more tyrannical whilst in countries like portugal we see alfonso gonzaves with

01:13:57.120 reconquista his movement he's doing pretty much what we were doing 10 years ago but in portugal

01:14:02.160 it's still possible because you have a lot more freedom there um every country needs a different

01:14:07.280 approach i mean doing doing what we do in the uk would immediately send you to jail germany jail

01:14:13.680 australia jail in a way even though it's a different approach is it the boxing club

01:14:18.400 specifically that would go to jail or simply voicing certain opinions i mean we had a different

01:14:24.400 action group in belgium but we are working together with them very often they're called

01:14:28.800 vorpost and they had a banner action which just said stop islamize islamization which is i mean 0.87

01:14:35.200 it's a very moderate point of view yeah they received a jail uh sentence for this they had

01:14:40.880 six months of prison uh for a banner that said stop islamize islamization so i mean this doesn't

01:14:46.960 happen in in southern european countries especially not in eastern european countries

01:14:51.040 so to these people i would say you need militant activism for people in germany in the uk in

01:14:56.000 belgium it needs a different approach of course uh but i am fully aware of the debate going on

01:15:02.320 between more militant activists and then nick fuentes for example who is also a friend of mine

01:15:07.600 who's doing tremendous work uh who has a different approach and who says i'm going to be uh be

01:15:13.520 convincing a lot of people of what we believe in and then these people will get into powerful

01:15:18.320 positions and and enact our ideology in policy and i also believe in that especially in america

01:15:24.640 where i think there is still time to do this but in other countries it will require a different

01:15:29.600 approach and ideally we're gonna have both some people are just best at what they do i mean look

01:15:34.960 at nick fuentes even if you would disagree with his strategy or his approach he's obviously

01:15:41.120 extremely talented he's i would even say uniquely talented in exactly what he does and then you

01:15:46.400 look at different approaches other activists that have a different approach and they are very

01:15:51.200 talented organizers organizers they have people skills they are they have skills to organize huge

01:15:56.720 actions huge camps for people it's just a different approach and both work fine i would i would

01:16:02.240 encourage people whatever you do even if it's not in an action group even if it's not publicly even

01:16:07.840 if it's just you know doing uh making clips or making videos spreading them even if it's just

01:16:13.840 working very hard and donating part of your salary to people who are on the front lines

01:16:19.120 all of that works as long as you do something everyone has the ability to do something absolutely

01:16:24.160 i gotta ask like the term that we use is low-hanging fruit like you don't want to give

01:16:29.680 your enemy low-hanging fruit have you heard this before yeah uh like what are your thoughts on that

01:16:34.400 like are there any sort of like certain guidelines where it's like you got to look good for example

01:16:39.680 um any other sort of like guidance in terms of things that you've learned the hard way maybe

01:16:44.960 in terms of how to make things as because you know for people like us you know our enemies can make

01:16:50.640 as many mistakes as they want and they face no consequences we make one mistake and we pay for

01:16:55.200 it like 50 times worse right exactly that's a lot of subjects in one question but firstly

01:17:00.640 the reason why we don't have the credit to make much mistakes is because because we get attacked

01:17:07.420 by our own side if one of us makes a mistake other people will immediately start attacking him

01:17:12.160 I'm hoping once again I've repeated myself but I'm hoping that due to what happened to Charlie

01:17:16.760 Kirk the murder of Charlie Kirk we're finally going to realize that we have to stick together

01:17:20.680 in the face of literal extermination by by our enemies and by the regime but we just have to

01:17:27.180 stick together and then we can make some mistakes then it's not not as big of a

01:17:31.080 problem firstly that then secondly we would describe it not as low-hanging 1.00

01:17:35.760 food but don't give ammunition to your enemy of course don't say stupid things 0.96

01:17:40.920 make sure you're looking good I mean a good rule of thumb is when you do 0.96

01:17:45.660 something try to think about the effect that it will have on your grandmother

01:17:49.860 instead of trying to think about the effect that it will have on other

01:17:53.160 other right-wing activists you see try to think outside of the echo chamber now again i must

01:17:58.440 nuance this point of view because it depends are you doing a political action or making a statement

01:18:04.360 writing a book making a video to convince the big public to get into mainstream media and to

01:18:09.160 convince the big public or to convince a political party or are you doing an action to move the

01:18:13.320 overtone window on x for example those two are of course completely different the overtone window

01:18:19.000 sadly is a little bit more to the right on X than it is in the mainstream discourse at the coffee

01:18:25.400 machine at the office, of course. So it all requires different approaches. So I will never

01:18:31.800 disavow other right wing activists in their approaches. I would say keep pushing. Of course,

01:18:39.080 never resort to violence and stuff like that. But as long as you're pushing the

01:18:43.720 overtime window in a sensible way keep pushing i want to ask about like subterfuge and subversion

01:18:51.880 because i feel like in canada it's so small that anytime there's anything that's right wing that's

01:18:59.880 building momentum some group or some person shows up to try and infiltrate or steer it the wrong way

01:19:05.720 or throw dirt on it like for example i saw a tweet about you that was like you you work for the

01:19:11.560 russians or something like that you're some sock puppet for some russian um like what do you think 0.97

01:19:16.600 we have to look out for there in terms of like people who are right-wing saying we're not going

01:19:21.160 far enough or people trying to gatekeep us out of certain things or trying to kind of like subvert

01:19:26.520 the movement yeah um just to make it very clear i have never received any international donation

01:19:33.400 let alone a donation from from a country or state actor or whatever sadly i mean i would say sponsor

01:19:40.120 my gifts and go please go there make a big donation on gifts and go slash dries and then

01:19:45.000 i will be able to continue paying my expensive lawyers and and staying free so i can i can give

01:19:50.040 these these interviews no that's something always to be very careful of course don't become paranoid

01:19:55.400 it's always a possibility but try to be mindful of who you allow in your circles try to not say 0.92

01:20:00.520 too much stupid stuff but it's unavoidable i mean in our movement we had our well we have our own

01:20:07.240 boxing club a physical location and i mean if you want to make european youth resilient and strong 0.98

01:20:14.120 again you're gonna have to allow people in that you don't know already you don't just want to make

01:20:18.920 your own group strong you want to make you want to attract new people then one day we had an

01:20:24.120 infiltrator a journalist from a left-wing publication about all publications in belgium are

01:20:28.840 left wing but apart from that he infiltrated us and i immediately saw i mean i've been giving

01:20:35.240 boxing classes for a few years already and i immediately saw some men are never going to be

01:20:40.040 able to dance and some men are never going to be able like to box you can just see it he was one

01:20:44.920 of these guys but i felt a little i felt felt a little bit sad for him but we helped him he of

01:20:50.120 course at that point didn't know that he was a journalist um but he he started asking people

01:20:55.160 questions and even though we have no politics on the mat after training of course people will be

01:21:01.400 be discussing politics and we'll be saying some stuff but he actually he went training with us

01:21:06.480 for three or four weeks but he found nothing substantial to use against us so not because we

01:21:11.760 were overly cautious or whatever but just because we are very normal normal people and we have had

01:21:17.280 journalists from mainstream publications visit our boxing club and i would even say that the

01:21:22.440 publications that they made were quite good in a way because they had to admit that this is just

01:21:27.180 working well everyone's welcome here they're doing good work everyone's happy but this undercover

01:21:31.800 journalist he was frustrated because he couldn't find any dirt on us so what he did was just he

01:21:36.840 doxxed everyone in his article he was naming names he was naming people which is it's semi-illegal in

01:21:44.040 Belgium but of course the regime will never convict one of their own and that led to a lot of trouble

01:21:49.140 for a lot of people so a lot of our trainers and high-level boxers they got in trouble for this

01:21:55.420 and then the head of the boxing federation in Belgium who is a Moroccan that's just how it goes

01:22:00.300 in Belgium he had letters sent by lawyers to these people who are doxxed in the article and he said

01:22:06.860 if you keep training at Dries Valangenhove's boxing club then we are going to throw you out

01:22:12.140 of the boxing federation which means they cannot train any people they cannot participate in

01:22:16.140 competitions so they will lose their livelihoods their income and also lose their dreams you cannot

01:22:22.060 participate in an international level if you're not a member of the belgium federation so a lot

01:22:26.780 of my trainers a lot of my members quit then because they were scared for their jobs i mean

01:22:31.660 we had like police officers training with us people who were in the army etc just right wing

01:22:37.340 guys that was very difficult and it didn't shut us down but then a few weeks later the the regime

01:22:44.620 was probably frustrated that we were just continuing and finding new trainers etc and i

01:22:49.420 even i that was a controversial controversial point i was attacked i remember by a canadian

01:22:53.900 guy you probably know i'm friends with him right now but he attacked me because i said i mean we

01:22:58.060 even have we even have foreigners who are trainers with us because i had a very difficult time

01:23:03.100 finding uh flemish guys to train with us right the boxing sport in itself is already very foreign 1.00

01:23:09.260 in belgium we don't have a lot of flemish people boxing it's mostly foreigners uh but i i had a 0.99

01:23:14.620 few like a turkish guy who gave muay thai training and some guys attacked me like oh can't you find

01:23:20.220 a flemish guy to do this well i couldn't at that point but anyway um it was a difficult time for us 0.95

01:23:26.620 and then the regime sent 15 police officers to do a raid on our boxing club so they raided it

01:23:33.260 they wrote down everyone's id they asked for our paperwork etc and even though we were in order

01:23:39.020 with everything well i don't have to explain it to you a week later the same training that was like

01:23:44.060 one third of the people left i mean people don't like being raided by armed police when they're

01:23:48.860 doing a training so that really made it difficult for us a lot of people will hear scenarios like

01:23:55.740 this and see how you've been persecuted and they'll be like see that's why there's no chance

01:24:00.220 that's why there's no hope and like they're like he's just black pill right um like how would you

01:24:06.300 respond to somebody like that who's who's kind of using your example of like why we can't do

01:24:10.300 anything about it well it's it's difficult for me and that's also why i i don't complain very often

01:24:16.380 i mean i'm saying this to you because we are i'm quite sure you have a very uh specified audience

01:24:21.740 that are already aware of this so i'm i won't be scaring away too many people but actually

01:24:26.220 especially my dutch communication i don't complain a lot because i want to inspire people to do what

01:24:30.940 i do i don't want to scare them away and that's exactly what the belgian regime the brussels

01:24:35.180 regime wants to do they want to show people if you do what drees so long over does we're going

01:24:39.420 going to put you in prison, we're going to bankrupt you, we're going to attack your family, so I don't 0.59

01:24:43.680 complain very often. Now I have to complain in a way because I need crowdfunding donations to be

01:24:49.600 able to pay my dollars and to not go bankrupt, but I don't do that very often. And I would say to

01:24:55.220 these people who are blackmailing because of my treatment, well if a lot of people would start

01:24:59.360 doing what I do, it would become a lot more easy for me. One of the reasons why I am so targeted

01:25:04.380 is because, as I said in the beginning of our conversation, there's not many people like me,

01:25:08.620 There's not many people doing the sort of activism that I do.

01:25:11.380 If there would be 10 or 20 or a thousand people doing what I do,

01:25:14.920 it would be a lot easier for all of us.

01:25:17.020 And I'll also repeat the argument that if we give up hope now, we'll lose everything.

01:25:22.380 I mean, you're not just going to lose a pay grade or your job or some family members.

01:25:28.760 You're going to lose everything.

01:25:30.360 We will have no country, no future, no society left.

01:25:34.560 Where can people support your gifts and go?

01:25:36.480 Yeah, go to my ex profile. The link is always on there or go to giftsandgo.com slash Dries and then support me. I really need it. And in the past, it's one of the lessons that I learned. I haven't always been asking enough for donations, partly because of pride, perhaps, but also partly because I don't want to scare people away from activism.

01:25:57.980 But the simple truth is that I have had to pay almost 400,000 euros in lawyer fees and fines.

01:26:06.520 And I can only continue my activism by getting nowadays international donations on these crowdfunding pages.

01:26:14.420 And my activism is not only in Belgium.

01:26:17.160 It's nowadays also very international.

01:26:19.780 This weekend, I'm giving a lecture in another European country.

01:26:23.040 I'm traveling all across the world.

01:26:25.580 i'm not welcome anymore in some countries but i'm traveling all across europe to really invigorate

01:26:30.460 the european youth to light the fire all over europe to make sure that we have a future for

01:26:36.060 our children that we can make this chain of generations stronger than ever before and that

01:26:41.500 we can make sure that the lands of our ancestors remain the lands of our descendants i'm willing

01:26:46.540 to sacrifice everything for that absolutely and i recently just joined as a board member founding

01:26:52.060 board member for the dominion society which is promoting canadian nationalism and remigration

01:26:57.580 and i gotta say on this trip it's been very inspiring just to see like you know to see rome

01:27:01.740 to see these like historic cities and to really see like i was quite inspired to see a lot of

01:27:07.180 white europeans who i think are like really in touch with their history and we're trying to

01:27:11.820 build that up more in canada but i wanted to just quickly ask kind of a little self-promotion like

01:27:16.540 do you know much about dominion society what did you see like what do you like about it

01:27:21.420 and like what should we be focusing on i saw the video and i of course shared the video immediately

01:27:26.780 followed it and i would tell everyone who sees this video to do the same support your local

01:27:31.580 movement don't just follow some international activists follow me as well of course but

01:27:36.540 support your local movement however small however amateurish they may be i'm not saying you guys are

01:27:41.500 mature but in some countries people will say me oh there's nothing here that i can support well

01:27:46.220 Well, then launch your own movement.

01:27:47.740 Get together with some friends and just start something.

01:27:51.000 It doesn't have to be shiny.

01:27:52.440 It doesn't have to be perfect from the beginning.

01:27:54.240 Just start doing some stuff.

01:27:55.860 Small victories will eventually lead to large victories.

01:27:59.240 Just start something.

01:28:00.120 And I'm very happy to see some serious initiatives coming from Canada.

01:28:03.620 And I would like to return also to your first point.

01:28:06.640 It's very important.

01:28:08.200 It's life-saving that we realize we are one people.

01:28:12.220 When I talk about Europeans, because I cannot use other words in Belgium.

01:28:15.680 When I talk about Europeans, I also mean Canadians, Australians.

01:28:19.580 I also mean Americans.

01:28:21.300 We are one people.

01:28:22.460 We must never be divided.

01:28:23.900 And our history is your history as well.

01:28:27.100 When I walk in American cities, I sometimes feel a little unheimlich, as we say in German.

01:28:32.680 There is no real English word for this.

01:28:35.100 But like not at home because it's all new buildings.

01:28:38.300 It's all like fast food joints.

01:28:39.960 There's not a lot of heritage in most cities.

01:28:43.780 But our history is your history.

01:28:46.500 We are one group.

01:28:47.700 What we build, we build together.

01:28:49.700 And we can only have a future if we share this future together.

01:28:53.320 If we realize that we are one people that we have to work together.

01:28:57.340 Fantastic.

01:28:58.020 Is there anything else you want to add?

01:28:59.480 No, that's it.

01:29:00.240 That's it.

01:29:00.700 Just become active.

01:29:02.140 Support your activists.

01:29:03.660 Become active in your local group.

01:29:05.620 Do what you must.

01:29:06.660 Do not be a passive spectator of politics, but become an active participant in politics.

01:29:12.260 because you may not care about politics.

01:29:14.280 Politics does care about you.

01:29:15.800 And if you're going to remain on the sidelines,

01:29:17.680 you will see everything that you cherish destroyed.

01:29:20.820 If you actively participate,

01:29:22.540 you will be able to, at the ending of your life,

01:29:25.200 whenever that may be,

01:29:26.280 look your children and your grandchildren in the eye

01:29:28.840 and tell them that you did everything

01:29:30.620 to make sure that this chain of generations

01:29:32.700 becomes stronger than ever before,

01:29:34.540 that the lands of our ancestors

01:29:35.660 remain the lands of our descendants. 0.98

01:29:39.720 It's been an honor, sir.

01:29:42.260 Thanks so much.

01:30:12.260 Canada will also be at the Remigration Summit. Thanks again for watching. Like,

01:30:16.500 share, subscribe. We will talk to you soon.

Greg Wycliffe - March 18, 2026

Banned from Politics for memes Dries Van Langenhove Belgian Nationalist

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