Bill C-9 is worse than you think
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Bill C9 has been introduced in the House of Commons of Canada, which could see hate speech charges brought against individuals who engage in hate speech in public spaces. I talk about why Bill C9 is a bad idea, and why it needs to go away.
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I was doing the, you know, you've been seeing the clips in the House of Commons, maybe.
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And a lot of people are talking about the religious exemption, of course.
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It's reintroducing the stand-alone hate crime charge.
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It's also trying to codify a definition of hate speech, of hatred rather, into the criminal code, which is actually new in terms of actually codifying it.
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For those curious about the documentary, it's almost done.
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however because of the c9 stuff i'm going to use all the footage i've accumulated
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and create a mini doc a short probably 8 to 15 minute piece on c9 and get that out by next week
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to really try to ring the alarm bells as hard as possible um and really i'm gonna assume it's
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going to pass the house and then the goal now is to try and speak to a senator to try and reach a
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senator in the canadian senate have this kind of mini doc about bill c9 i think it's i think
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there's going to be a good argument that appeals to more of a left-wing person as well um because
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of the zionist angle and we can get into that but um yeah wow how are you guys doing i'm not gonna
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to lie i was like i i really i really don't want to go live oh my gosh i don't want to go live but
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i'm like i i gotta i gotta talk about this i i gotta just kind of like unload all the stuff that
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i've been filling my mind up with to uh to kind of help me work through it all you know how's
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everybody doing we got daisy media and chat nice hat thank you very much thank you very much you
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know if this becomes an entity then this symbol would be illegal to even show it but we'll get
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into some of that as well um yeah a lot of messed up stuff in this bill that the conservative
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party is not really talking about i gotta say um they are doing an okay job with this kind of
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religious exemption stuff but uh yeah shout out to dacy media prairie 745 the northwest passage
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thanks for hanging out ronald walker rick freedom and of course cold water meat my favorite do you
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know uh i've i've lived in cold water do you know do you know dick shrivels from cold water
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did you know that dick shrivels from cold water anyway that's uh kind of a vulgar joke
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hello to koala mama as well and what's what ski what ski lug they don't know what they are
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sewing with this bill i mean i think they kind of do i think they kind of do that's probably
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actually a good place to start uh this bill bill c9 is really the the canadian regime thumping its
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chest and saying we are going to start enforcing hate speech laws because we've actually had hate
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speech laws in canada on the books for quite a while and what they're doing is because they're
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codifying codifying hate in the criminal code they're going to have much more of a strong legal
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ground to actually start charging people with hate speech crimes. And I guess we'll just get
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right into it. Let's open up the good stuff. It's cold enough to lose an inch. Very true.
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Very true. We'll open this up. Oh my gosh, it's been so long since I've streamed, guys. I feel
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So 319, everyone who, by communicating statements
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it's barely been enforced it's maybe been enforced
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a few times I don't know the exact like examples
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thankfully it's not been used that much but I'm telling
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the rhetoric coming from the political class bill c9 is really here to like their their thumping
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their chest to say we're actually going to start using this one now that that's kind of my guess
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um and then there's 3191 and 3192 very similar willful promotion of hatred everyone who by
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communicating statements other than in private conversations willfully promotes hatred against
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any identifiable group um this is an even lower threshold and we can get into this
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Why that's relevant, the religious exemption, is when it comes to these charges, public incitement of hatred or willful promotion of hatred, if you scroll down here, 3B, no person shall be convicted of an offense if, in good faith, the person expressed or attempted to establish by an argument an opinion on a religious subject or an opinion based on a belief in a religious text.
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this is what they want to get rid of this is what mark miller wants to get rid of
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this was specifically at this is one of the only reasons that 319 was even added to the criminal
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code they were arguing about it years and years ago and they were like no we need to add in a
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religious exemption and that's like the only reason that they even allowed this stupid speech
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the regime is getting geared up to actually use the speech
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law because they've hardly ever used it against people
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now they're going to take the religious exemption
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and that's part of the reason why i haven't uh been going live too much too often because it's
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like i have nothing i have nothing nice to say at all about uh about any of these people just
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like how disingenuous they are how you know it's like like do you do like to me it's it seems like
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a like a kind of drawn out bank heist you know instead of a bank heist happening in like a
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couple hours or like in 20 minutes it's happening over the course of like 12 to 16 years and these
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politicians are coming up and they're like in the parliament buildings they got their turn at the
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trough to quote uh Derek Rance and they're like I'm gonna stuff my pockets with as much money as
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Like that's what it seems like we're looking at here.
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are we watching the political class make the best decisions for the
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we're watching a bunch of crooks milk the Canadian people in our
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they and their tight circle of friends can have a nice life for,
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the rest of their life for the rest of how long they're going to live.
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It betrays the nation, obviously, but like it betrays the idea of like trying to leave, even aside from Canada, just like trying to leave the world a better place than when you left it.
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It's so selfish and just like I do actually get a lot of a lot of kind of peace of mind thinking like, well, these people are going to burn in hell.
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they're good like you know something's they're going to face judgment at some point karma is
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going to come around you know and uh that's the only thing that really gives me peace of mind
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these days is knowing that these people are doing something evil and wrong and at some point
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in one way or another uh there will be justice for these despicable scumbags who are just like
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systematically you know selling us out selling out the country because and i say all this because
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when i see mark miller i'll bring up the clip in a second when i see mark miller you know talk
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about bill c9 for example and i'm a christian but we need to criminalize the bible it's like
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i think he knows this is insane i think he's just like a scumbag super cynical
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like sales guy who's a sociopath basically that's why you get into politics
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who's just like well i just gotta like make my pitch i gotta make my kind of sell
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I just got to say these lines, you know, grip, grip my teeth and bear it.
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All I got to do is turn off my, uh, you know, sense of right and wrong and just read the
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i kind of forget actually in this case the bible but there are other religious texts that say the
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same thing uh and somehow can't say that this is good faith i mean clearly there are situations in
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these texts where these statements are hateful they should not be used to invoke uh or be a
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defense and there should perhaps be discretion for prosecutors to press charges i just want to
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understand what your notion of good faith is in this context where there are clearly passages in
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in religious texts that are clearly hateful in this case the bible but there are other
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religious texts that say the same thing uh and somehow can't say that this is good faith i mean
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clearly there are situations in these texts where these statements are hateful they should not be
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used to invoke uh or be a defense there should perhaps be discretion for prosecutors to press
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charges i just want to understand what press charges he wants to press charges you can press
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charges because of bible verses insane does this not to like not to you know not to tease the
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gingers but like do you really think this guy has a soul i mean like like look at this you look at
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this this demon this demon phenotype the eyes sunken into the back of his skull hey we got
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my mini doc and be like you know what I've had a
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change of heart I'm going to save free speech in
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canada and i'm not gonna let bill c9 pass but um but yeah no this is a lot of great members very
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powerful movement thanks yep and it's it's nice you can these are available at our store if we're
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not sold out we actually might be sold out maybe i spoke too soon i'm not the merch guy so part of
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me but anyway that's mark miller scumbag doesn't have a soul um yeah hateful statements in the
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Bible, madness. No, absolutely. And then he doubles
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a Christian and use the name of Christ in vain,
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insane remove religious exemptions from the hate speech laws to pass bill c9 you're the chair of
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the justice committee well i have to question myself look i'm a person of faith i'm christian
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um i have very very deep beliefs the reality is i don't think people should be using the bible
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the quran or the torah to escape from committing a hate crime or claim that the hate would otherwise
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be a hate crime so what the are you talking about i don't think they should use the bible
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to escape from a hate crime you're saying that the bible and the text themselves are hateful
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and are criminal so what do you mean escaping you're the one who are pinning them pinning down
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religious people to say like you you could get criminally charged if you read this part of the
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book what do you mean escaping from the you are entrapping them you are entrapping them with this
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bill they're not what do you mean escaping from this like it's totally inverted
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is done in the name of a religious text you can look at the religious texts yourself
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and see what they mean but the reality is that there is an exception in the criminal code that
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are making people hesitate and when the conservatives when the conservatives come
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out and pretend that they are defending freedom of expression they are defending people like
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let's just watch that with the sound off see look this is this is a demon who's trying to get away
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he's trying to get back to his to his uh demon stuff they start asking him i have more questions
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and then he's like he looks to both sides oh get me out of here get me out of here oh
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freak um let's let's kind of listen to that again the reality is that there's an exception
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in the criminal code that are making people hesitate and when the conservatives when the
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conservatives that's almost like that's like a that's almost like a um a freudian slip there
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making people hesitate making people hesitate to charge people with 319 is that what you're
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talking about just text you can look at the religious texts yourself and see what they mean
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but the reality is that there is an exception in the criminal code that are making people hesitate
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and when the conservatives yeah hesitate to charge people is that what you're talking about
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like this is a people man they're defending people like adele shikari pretend like
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I mean, you do got to hand it to this liberal regime.
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Like, if there's anyone who is super good at, like, knowing their lines, knowing their exit strategy, you know, they do know their lines well.
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There have been hate crimes against Jewish people in Quebec.
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And as I said in English, those people are defending hate crimes and hate language.
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And I don't think we should be using the Bible, the Koran or the Torah to commit a hate crime.
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And, like, this is another thing where the conservatives have, like, really failed.
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I don't even know if I have it in me to watch the clips tonight.
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I just kind of want to go over all the problems with the bill.
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But the problem with the way that the conservative party is framing it is they're saying, like, well, hate is bad and we want to stop hate.
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and it's like bro you're you're losing the frame of the argument you you've lost the free speech
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frame if you start to like concede that we need to do something about the hate like you've you've
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lost the free speech frame if you think if you think that like oh no well i want to stop hate
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too let's do legislation to stop hate too it's like no the second the second that you said that
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you want you want legislation to stop hate you've just you've just conceded the free speech argument
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entirely you know i've said this many times before but you know fighting for free speech doesn't
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happen in the in the middle of the most common stances like i like ice cream i like chocolate
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ice cream i like pizza i like star wars like that's not the fucking speech that we have to
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defend here folks everyone fucking agrees with that okay when it comes to defending free speech
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it's always always always on the fringes you know you're going to be talking about muslims holding
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up anti-semitic signs for example are they detestable are they gross and like really
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mean and like horrible stereotypes yes they are is it inciting violence like that's the line
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inciting violence is it inciting violence and the second that you start to say oh well it's mean
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enough or it looks mean enough or like it's really really not that like nice and like therefore it's
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criminal now like no no because like once that once that breaks open it's like it's like a it's
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like a little hole in the dam and then it just like i can just all blows open the second that
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you say okay well sometimes things that aren't incitements to violence are actually uh they're
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actually just as bad things that are hateful are actually the same thing as inciting violence it's
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like once you've done that it just opens up the floodgates and we can actually get into that now
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i i guess um i don't know if i should go through my notes maybe i should go through my notes for
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this i have a little thing right here for it make it a bit bigger so and i just discovered this
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today and it kind of blew my mind again i'm kicking myself for not knowing this earlier i'm
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trying you know i tried to be the free speech guy and i'm like fuck i should be on top of this i was
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preoccupied with trying to get the final cut of the documentary done and like i'm only i'm only
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one man guys you know doing my best hit the like you hateful bigots thank you b33f22 absolutely
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hey another super chat from the northwest passage with 280 hey he's not a ginger he's a ginger
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tonight but again I've been going through all this legal
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actual criminal code and just kind of my notes so once again i'm calling it that well i'm not
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calling it but i'm saying the real sort of incentive of bill c9 that i feel people are
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missing that the conservative party is missing is that this is the liberal regime thumping its
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chest saying we're going to start using 319 we're going to start charging people with public
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incitement of hatred willful promotion of hatred you've heard the bureaucrats on the mps talk about
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this for years. We just need to start enforcing these speech laws. And this kind of gives them
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the pretext or it gives them more ammunition for the crown prosecutor to actually start doing that.
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But when you actually look into 319, you realize how gay this bill or this law is to begin with.
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What am I talking about? Everyone, this is super autistic. So hold on for your hats. Get your legal
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hat on. Okay. Put the beer down, find your legal hat, find whatever you can, put your hands on
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your head, whatever. This is the legal hat on everyone who by communicating statements in any
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public place incites hatred, incites hatred. And you might think who, like, what do you mean
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incites hatred? Like, like what's the big deal? So the thing, and like, I only found this by
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looking at the definition of insights, but insights is a legal term and it's always associated except
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for in gay Canada, it's always associated with inciting unlawful action. So inciting violence,
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inciting riots, inciting unlawful behavior. That is pretty well always the way the word
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incite has been used. Now, so let me go back over to my notes here.
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um so and these are my questions i'm hopefully going to talk to a constitutional lawyer about
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this bill but these this is going to be one of my questions for them does inciting hatred even
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make sense because legally incite is used in regards to unlawful actions and like the way
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that the legal process goes when they determine if speech is incitement or not like the speech
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is the incitement like let's go let's riot let's like you know let's storm the capital like
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whatever it might be incitement the the unlawful action and then some sort of harm occurs okay
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that is kind of like the incitement framework that's used in the united states and i'm guessing
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other places as well but the key thing is incitement is tied to an actual action in 319
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it appears that incite is used to add an emotion of hatred so the speech or incitement of hatred
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in this case doesn't lead to an action it leads to a person they start to feel hatred
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and then they commit an action and then the harm occurs so the incitement the speech incitement in
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this case is not hey let's go riot it's like hey i really i i'm really upset with uh identifiable
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group a i was thinking about indians were you thinking about indians i don't know why but
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it's totally weird it's like we were having the same thought but uh you know you talk about hey
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i'm tired of the temporary foreign workers who are protesting to remain in the country
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i feel like this is completely uncalled for they're overstaying their visas they're overstaying
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Maybe if I say this in an intense enough way or in a disparaging enough way, they might say, well, Greg, you saying that you actually incited people to feel an intense dislike towards the temporary foreign workers, which is an identifiable group.
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most of the time most of the time they're indian and then um and this is the next part likely
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and then someone might take an action which might cause harm back to the bill
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or sorry back sorry back to the 319 everyone who communicates incites hatred against the
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group where such incident incitement rather is likely to lead to a breach of the peace
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and i've looked this up as well you know how do you define breach of the peace
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and i asked ai not gonna lie but breach of the peace is undefined and police interpret it broadly
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and proactively the standard of what makes breach of the peace likely is entirely in the eye of the
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officer or ultimately the crown so if i say in some inflammatory statement about temporary foreign
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workers that was like really intense and maybe it encourages people to intensely dislike them
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and maybe there's like a a skew of like it being me identifying them as mostly being indian that's
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an identifiable group so i just said something that in incited somebody to feel intense dislike
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and then if a judge if a judge or a crown prosecutor says hey man i think i think that
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fire tiktok you posted that like went viral and really kind of like called out these uh you know
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indian temporary foreign workers i think that was so intense and radical in your rhetoric that i
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think you're going to cause a riot therefore that is willful incitement of hatred is that what it's
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called public incitement of hatred and then the other one is willful promotion of hatred which
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She doesn't have the incitement stuff, but that would be willfully promoting hatred.
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I know I'm kind of going all over the place here, but I'm just fucking word bobbling the whole thing.
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But the other part of the bill, which is concerning, is it in this?
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Again, that's going to make it probably easier for them to actually use it.
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So, and this seems minor, but it's really significant.
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They're actually adding the definition of hatred into the bill.
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They would have to like kind of rely upon like Supreme Court decisions and whatever, whatever.
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And they kind of are doing this here, but like they're making it more official, I think.
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If you willfully promote an emotion, that's what it is.
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If you willfully promote an emotion against an identifiable group,
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If you willfully promote a hatred emotion against any identifiable group,
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yo like half pipe that's extreme and intense you're clearly vilifying them you're going to jail
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uh but to be a little bit more serious like this is a really really low threshold i pointed this
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out uh like a year and a half ago when they were kind of pushing bill c63 because they wanted to
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do the same thing they wanted to codify this this um definition of hatred and it's to test
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and vilify do you know what the definition do you know what the definition of detestation is
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i'm so glad this isn't on screen because i i horribly spelled detestation wrong um
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and that's why I use the term intense dislike a lot
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so let's go back to this already existing hate speech charge
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Like, distinguished by color, race, religion, national or ethnic origin, age, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, or mental or physical disability.
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What's interesting about this is some people argue that pedophilia is a sexual orientation.
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So, like, if I intensely dislike pedophiles, I hope it doesn't come to that.
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Like, I don't think that's going to be, like, an argument that really sticks.
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Because I think even when I'm saying it out loud,
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I'm like, that kind of does sound like a reach.
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But you never know who's going to be in charge.
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You know that's why the pedophiles want that though, right?
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But at the same time, if I intensely dislike parents and teachers
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which i would i would say i i kind of do i think that's a pretty intense dislike i mean they say
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hate the sinner sorry hate the sin and not the sinner i should say it's very understandable
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to intensely dislike and detest a teacher or parent who is totally fine promoting
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transgenderism to children hey i think my child should lop their tits off i think my boy should
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cut their dick off even though they haven't hit puberty yet that's fucking detestable yeah
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yeah i think if people detest those group those groups of people then i think that's totally
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legitimate and then the snurd might say well that's actually not an identifiable group
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obviously the people who are protesting this are going to get accused of hating
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um gays lesbians transgenders all that stuff we already know this anybody who has protested soji
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Anybody who has protested this stuff, they get accused of hating all gays, hating all, you know, transphobes.
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Like we've already seen that play out so, so, so, so many times.
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So you have to imagine how this bill would be extrapolated to basically go after the people who oppose the ruling ideology of Canada.
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You know, like if you don't submit, if you don't bow to the rainbow progress flag, then you are, you know, then that's hateful.
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You know, there also is part of the bill that says, if you are late to the pride ceremony, you will be thrown in jail.
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And once again, this, and this is actually probably the most pertinent thing.
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But let's, let me kind of just rehash it again.
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If you go by number of churches burnt to the ground
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or number of places of worship burnt to the ground,
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then Christians are far above and beyond the most hated group in Canada
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with nearly 130 churches burning to the ground over the past several years.
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So Christians are the most hated, yet they do not support Bill C-9.
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the most likely group to get punished and criminally charged for speech is Christians.
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any christian who protests a drag time story hour let's say cbc kids cbc uh kids wants to do a cbc
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drag quids like you know event downtown toronto and a whole bunch of christians go there to protest
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cbc drag kids and they're citing the bible and they're saying hey this is why i disagree with
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this this is blasphemous it's not even an exaggeration to say that these people will
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get charged with hate crimes they will get charged with willful promotion of hatred public incitement
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of hatred and you know there's gonna be the rainbow chorus there of counter protesters that
00:37:56.600
are going to be saying stop your hate stop your hate that's going to totally play into the public
00:38:00.940
perception of this protest and all the stupid idiots watching cbc will be like yes yes they're
00:38:07.180
bad christian bad christian they should they should let the kids they should let the kids
00:38:11.200
have makeup on and dress scantily clad like they're grown-ups like they're fucking strippers
00:38:15.920
even though they're minors i don't care what the christians say christians are hateful
00:38:20.320
that is the most likely case of if bcc9 were to pass bill c9 were to pass god forbid
00:38:28.340
um that's the most likely instance of this bill being used so how ironic is that we're going to
00:38:35.660
combat hate and we're going to protect religious groups just kidding we're going to use this bill
00:38:41.740
to throw christians in jail because we think they're hateful and we all bunch of a bunch of
00:38:47.500
churches already burnt down over the past four or five years like we're not really protecting them
00:38:50.780
at all we're actually just going to create the pretext to throw to throw the the christians we
00:38:54.980
don't like in jail and i've interviewed arthur pavlowski i've um interviewed pastor hildebrandt
00:39:02.660
For the documentary, and Archer Pawlowski has been through a lot
00:39:09.100
in terms of him having the book thrown at him for fucking bullshit reasons.
00:39:13.520
He's been thrown in jail for completely ridiculous reasons
00:39:18.800
So you bet your bottom dollar that Archer Pawlowski, anything he posts,
00:39:25.960
it's not an exaggeration to say that these people could be thrown in jail
00:40:00.400
you know, not to belabor the point, but it's like
00:40:02.480
this is up it's literally upside down world like this is literally hell you know like this is that
00:40:09.460
would literally be hell if that happened oh my gosh um and yeah all that being said if you want
00:40:17.080
to support the upcoming documentary then please go to give send go.com save free speech we did
00:40:22.580
three screenings this winter this christmas this winter they went very well but i gotta say it's
00:40:30.340
not done yet it's not good enough it's it's not what it needs to be so we're working on the final
00:40:35.000
cut and in the short term i'm pivoting to work on a mini doc for c9 to get that out as quickly as
00:40:41.220
possible just do everything we can to push back against uh c9 and hopefully stop it in the senate
00:40:47.100
um but like i said i'm only one man i only have so much time and bandwidth so i need to fund
00:40:55.200
editors to help me with this. So if you want to help with that, uh, then please go to give
00:41:00.660
send go.com slash save free speech. You can see the trailer, uh, if you haven't seen it already,
00:41:05.980
but, uh, yeah, any donations are greatly appreciated as always. Um, Vinny says,
00:41:13.480
I hate diet Coke, arrest him. So true, man. So true. I wonder if fat, I wonder if fat people
00:41:50.780
You hate made the medical assistance in dying program.
00:41:53.560
And then someone tries to say that you hate mentally ill people and they
00:42:01.660
Maybe I'm just giving them ideas at this point.
00:42:13.280
but praying internally within a hundred meters of some kind of safe space
00:42:17.940
I'm sure we, we seen it in the UK with the woman near the abortion clinic.
00:42:25.660
I'm going to try and get in touch with some Christian groups in the UK to kind of just
00:42:30.840
document and show people like, yo, this is, this has already happened in the UK.
00:42:36.780
This is exactly how the speech law will be used.
00:42:39.260
We know this already based on what's happening in the United Kingdom.
00:42:43.280
but uh let's go over to my cheat sheet here to see uh what i missed
00:42:49.340
um i went over the incitement thing and how that's super gay
00:42:53.760
uh oh this is an interesting one so the standalone hate crime charge
00:43:03.180
or offense motivated by hate this is one that i think actually the conservatives are doing a
00:43:10.880
decent job of talking about in the House of Commons.
00:43:31.060
sexual orientation, gender identity or expression.
00:43:41.640
Let's say you go to a protest and you get charged with mischief, random.
00:43:48.780
If the Crown Prosecutor or whoever, they can now try to make the argument,
00:43:53.060
well, actually, they were doing this protest and committing this mischief because they hate blacks.
00:44:02.060
And it really is, you know, how do they determine this?
00:44:29.400
Um, how is it determined if a, um, charge, if a, what, unlawful action?
00:44:59.400
yeah how is it determined if an unlawful action was motivated by hate
00:45:14.500
hey we'll just talk to the hate experts um i've i found a forum post from five years ago and and
00:45:21.620
it had a black person in it therefore they hate black people and and and and now you're going to
00:45:26.120
go to jail for two more years because I don't like
00:45:28.220
you and I don't like your politics because you're a stupid
00:45:38.280
doo-doo head right winger and like you used to bully
00:45:40.120
me in high school and like you're just fucking stupid
00:45:55.420
it's been overwhelming and i and i definitely do want to get to that um did i even make a tiktok
00:46:01.540
about it i don't know if i did rachel gilmore receiving um manila colored envelopes from the
00:46:09.820
government or from someone from the government she's getting she's getting tips from a from a
00:46:15.340
government source she interviewed uh a guy who has a book how to catch a fascist and they're
00:46:22.380
openly laughing about political violence like it's just like really funny thing that's totally
00:46:26.920
justifiable it's also totally justifiable to not have a debate uh determining who actually is and
00:46:33.060
isn't a fashion fascist is not important uh like i could not believe this conversation that uh
00:46:39.680
that fucking rachel gilmore had with this like fascist guy or sorry this anti-fascist guy my
00:46:45.520
mistake um insane and then also yeah there's there's some other stuff that evan well i don't
00:46:52.080
want to say anything. I shouldn't say anything.
00:47:04.100
we still have the symbols. We still have the hate symbols
00:47:08.020
Yeah, I think I finished the motivated by hate thing.
00:47:52.080
Could 319 charges be made retroactively for old internet posts, for example?
00:48:04.500
Great, great, great question, Heath and Hammer.
00:48:13.220
And I think that, like, part of, this is me kind of scrutinizing, like, all the details of, like,
00:48:19.720
Because what I want to communicate to people is, like, what is the absolute lowest, lowest threshold it would take to technically be criminally charged for speech?
00:48:38.360
So, intensely disliking an identifiable group, that's it.
00:48:45.260
willfully promoting intense dislike towards a an identifiable group and i gotta say the best
00:48:55.760
example is like the way that uh jews have been hating muslims and and muslims have been hating
00:49:01.360
jews recently since october 7th like another one obviously as well is how ever since the
00:49:10.000
unmarked graves everybody fucking hates white canadians that's totally fine but like it's never
00:49:15.940
going to be used that way like this bill with this liberal regime is it they're never going to use
00:49:20.380
the bill hey you were mean to white people like that's not how it's going to be used guys that
00:49:26.100
is not how it's going to be used um you know you got to be really really cynical when it comes to
00:49:31.320
that uh but uh yeah where was i going with that oh yeah yeah the the main the main thing here
00:49:41.380
though is like you know i'm trying to define what the lowest threshold is but realistically
00:49:46.460
like some conservative mps are saying to their credit some of them are saying like this is
00:49:51.820
actually i think it was uh this is really funny if you guys haven't didn't see me tweeting about
00:49:59.700
this i actually agree with elizabeth may how insane is that came totally out of nowhere could
00:50:07.480
not believe it um but i think she kind of low-key although she she sounds a little bit sober in this
00:50:13.800
clip so like i'm gonna play it um did i skip over it
00:50:21.300
there we go i think she actually summarizes it well here believe it or not i agree with
00:50:30.980
elizabeth may but bill c9 not only doesn't solve
00:50:35.640
why does that keep happening but bill c9 not only doesn't solve problems of hate crimes
00:50:43.940
it not only doesn't give law enforcement new tools it will create a morass i'm absolutely
00:50:50.340
certain that if this law is passed as is it will waste police resources waste court time
00:50:57.560
and tie people up in knots in wrongful prosecutions for things or never hate crimes at all
00:51:04.200
so with that mr speaker i vote against this bill
00:51:06.820
she actually cooked bro she actually cooked uh that's exactly what it would be used for
00:51:44.280
obviously if bill uh c9 were in effect before the convoy they would obviously be trying to
00:51:53.060
throw on extra hate hate motivated charges to this right and um but yeah i mean like
00:52:00.360
you guys probably get it the frame to think about this is like we live under a corrupt regime
00:52:06.160
and they are doing like more and more of the corruption is coming out more and more receipts
00:52:12.040
are being shown you know the people are they're we're starting to see how the emperor has no
00:52:18.400
clothes and how we are living under a bunch of crooks obviously they want to shut down the
00:52:25.220
protests obviously they want to shut down dissidents they want to get away with their
00:52:30.240
crimes they don't want to be held accountable for all of their nonsense they don't want they
00:52:34.800
They don't want a grassroots movement of pissed off, angry, hateful a little bit Canadians
00:52:41.940
knocking at their door and being like, hey, you're fucking full of shit.
00:52:53.760
So this gives these tyrants, these crooks, a nice little toolbox of ways to punish and persecute.
00:53:05.100
A lot of people follow him and are inspired by him.
00:53:07.300
Yeah, let's just kind of add on a little hate crime charge for him.
00:53:10.120
Let's drag him through the courts for a couple of years.
00:53:21.640
But that's why we got to work on this mini doc.
00:53:28.520
some of the MPs are actually talking about this aspect of it.
00:53:31.640
But I got to say, I do want to shit on the conservative party a little bit because it's what I do best.
00:53:41.900
No, it's honestly, it's what's pissed me off more than anything over the past three years, four years, fucking four years now, jeez.
00:53:54.260
Some people say, oh, you're so hard on the conservative party, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:53:57.660
i saw randy hillier get thrown in jail um i was on his bail conditions of someone he couldn't talk
00:54:07.360
to i saw jeremy mckenzie get thrown in jail and like these are people who are like quite close
00:54:12.700
to me like i had friends who left the country after the convoy um like it's not an exaggeration
00:54:18.500
to be like to say like that was an authoritarian crackdown on dissent that's not supposed to be
00:54:24.940
something that happens in a free country okay like this was such an egregious violation of a
00:54:30.900
so-called free democracy done by fucking blackface trudeau and the response for the conservative
00:54:38.140
party sucked ass it was fucking pathetic like this is an opportunity as an actual opposition
00:54:47.420
or political opponent to vilify and condemn justin trudeau every day trudeau the tyrant
00:54:53.800
Trudeau the tyrant, you're a disgrace to democracy. A fucking German politician,
00:55:02.780
Christine Anderson, she said, Trudeau, you're a disgrace to democracy. That was so popular in
00:55:09.060
Canada that she was able to come here and like tour multiple times for her just uttering those
00:55:14.240
simple words. Why the fuck couldn't the leader of the opposition do that right after it happened?
00:55:20.380
you're a disgrace to democracy oh no what's what's the cbc gonna say who cares what the cbc has to
00:55:27.560
say the canadian people would agree with you and also you should be trying to get that into the
00:55:33.980
fucking ether you should be trying to say that to get people thinking about that hey maybe these
00:55:40.800
liberals are tyrants he could have been saying that for four fucking years pierre polyev could
00:55:47.000
have been saying that for four years imagine every single day poly have tweeted for the past
00:55:53.720
four years daily day one of reminding the liberal party of canada of their authoritarian actions at
00:56:00.260
the trucker convoy day two of reminding the liberal party of canada of their authoritarian
00:56:04.980
actions at the trucker convoy naming them marco mendocino uh you know justin trudeau like all
00:56:11.060
these people who are implicated in this authoritarian crackdown froze fucking bank accounts
00:56:15.520
imagine the conservative party was doing that every fucking day since the convoy it'd be on
00:56:22.040
everybody's minds sure it would start a shitstorm with the cbc and the mainstream media but that
00:56:25.780
would have been a good thing and the reason i say this and why it's so frustrating is now you have
00:56:32.000
members of parliament when there is an authoritarian law basically that's going to
00:56:36.720
give a toolkit for authoritarians to crack down on dissent in a much more official way
00:57:33.660
yeah this fucking clip dude this clip is just so bad dude this clip is so bad
00:57:46.000
so what was i just saying i was talking about how the conservative party of canada
00:57:52.540
could have been drilling it into the ether saying out loud hey the liberal party are such
00:57:57.540
authoritarians remember what happened at the convoy that was despicable you're a disgrace to
00:58:01.300
democracy sure it would have been unpopular at the time but they they had so much time to kind
00:58:07.340
of build this case to actually shift the conversation of like maybe being racist is not
00:58:12.660
really that big a concern what about the authoritarian actions of this corrupt government
00:58:16.340
they could have completely shifted the conversation over the course of the past few years but they
00:58:20.460
didn't do that and now to fight back against bill c9 they're making arguments like this my
00:58:27.400
constituents if they were to move to quebec and ask to work as a school teacher they would not
00:58:33.060
be permitted to wear a coupon. That's not acceptable in my version of Canada.
00:58:49.200
My constituents, if they were to move to Quebec and asked to work as a school teacher, they
00:58:54.640
would not be permitted to wear a coupon. That's not acceptable in my version of Canada.
00:59:01.980
constituents so the argument against bill c9 is that uh seeks wouldn't be able to have a knife
00:59:10.360
on them because of some because of the c9 thing um yeah can you just call out the fact that
00:59:20.480
this liberal government is going to wield it as authoritarians and crack down on dissent
00:59:25.380
oh you haven't been talking about that for the past four years so now you have to basically
00:59:29.700
They make a liberal argument against this combating hate bill.
00:59:40.740
To their credit, there are some better clips than this,
00:59:43.000
but that one especially was just absolutely embarrassing.
00:59:58.800
What else do I need to get through here on Bill C9?
01:00:26.240
What does it make more sense to talk about first?
01:00:28.160
probably the intimidation stuff it never ends all right so again this is another
01:00:37.700
another thing that like nobody acts asked for except maybe
01:00:43.080
except maybe i i'm gonna say most muslim groups are totally against c9 most christian groups are
01:00:53.120
totally against c9 a couple rabbis are against c9 just a couple just a few just a few that
01:01:02.040
clip's hilarious too let's see if woman waffens has that as well actually that clip's crazy
01:01:08.620
uh no it's not there i should have posted it oh well um so it's uh basically not that many jews
01:01:22.240
oppose bill c9 most of the big jewish groups are in support big support of bill c9 and there's a
01:01:32.300
lot i want to say about that but i that i probably shouldn't you know one thing one joke is that you
01:01:38.800
know they say that jewish people are lawyers sometimes like there's a lot of there's gonna
01:01:43.720
like you know there's a lot of jews are lawyers a lot of lawyers are jews it happens um and if
01:01:49.960
this passes this would this like if c9 passes this would be great for the economy of being a
01:01:56.520
lawyer okay like low-key if you're a lawyer i feel like you kind of want c9 to pass because that's
01:02:03.220
like a whole fuck ton of business for you as a lawyer you know oh how do we define incitement
01:02:09.660
of hatred how do we define oh did it pass the threshold i don't know you're paying me a hundred
01:02:14.220
dollars an hour to find out though fucking idiot you know pay up we'll try to keep you out of jail
01:02:20.380
bud so yeah low-key i worry that like these lawyers i don't know it's almost like maybe
01:02:27.120
maybe they would like some of them would like c9 because then they get a huge boom in business i
01:02:31.100
hate to think that way but like sometimes i wonder you know and then the other thing of course is i
01:02:36.600
don't want to go into the theological angle but i'm sure there are verses in the bible i.e uh
01:02:47.720
There's like a reference to like a synagogue and it being a satanic.
01:02:51.420
So that's kind of demonizing Jews a little bit.
01:02:55.980
in the Quran or the Torah or whatever the other one is.
01:03:05.800
antisemitism has kind of been the tip of the spear for a lot of speech laws in
01:03:11.280
that's been the case pretty well across the western world if you if you document uh western
01:03:17.240
countries and like the first shoe to drop in terms of censorship it's always the holocaust stuff and
01:03:23.020
that's even been the case that's even been the case here in canada where if there and when it
01:03:26.800
comes to things that you cannot say that's short of incitement to violence and incitement uh you
01:03:33.280
know to genocide or whatever which is illegal speech which i think should stay illegal i don't
01:03:38.920
think people should be able to say hey i want to hey i want to kill these people or to kill those
01:03:41.760
people i think it's probably good to to not be able to uh to do that it's probably not a good
01:03:45.640
thing but uh short of that the um but can you wish death upon people and that's a different
01:03:52.880
question no but uh but uh i was having a conversation about that with someone today
01:03:58.700
but um i fucking lost my train of thought now oh but outside of that there's bills across the
01:04:07.800
western world that are like you can't speak the wrong way about a historical event that happened
01:04:12.720
during world war ii you can't talk the wrong way about the holocaust or the wrong way about nazis or
01:04:19.620
or whatever like like that has been the first shoe to drop when it comes to our our free speech being
01:04:24.480
taken away in the in uh in western countries and a great example of that i released this last week
01:04:37.260
I interviewed him and it's a really great interview.
01:04:46.540
like the Scrooge movie, you know, Christmas Carol,
01:04:52.460
And he's like terrified of like what the future looks like.
01:04:55.180
Like this is what it was like interviewing this guy.
01:05:00.620
hey i was also part of an active club hey uh i i they infiltrated my group chat or they found
01:05:07.480
like a random meme in a group chat of mine i didn't even send it and that's how they justified
01:05:12.300
throwing me in jail for hate speech the trial the trial is still ongoing he hasn't been thrown
01:05:16.540
in jail yet thankfully he's still like fighting it but um it's completely ridiculous completely
01:05:22.380
completely ridiculous um you know i feel i feel bad because when i turned off the camera after
01:05:29.700
he said something really powerful which was like basically it's like bro it's about power like
01:05:35.440
these laws don't mean anything like like it's it's about power that like this regime if the regime
01:05:40.500
has the the power to punish you they will like this idea that like all the laws and all that
01:05:45.560
shit like means anything it's like that's just kind of like after the fact details but yeah go
01:05:49.840
find that on my channel if you haven't seen that interview with drees yet it's proving it proves
01:05:54.160
my point which i'm talking about which anti-semitism is the first shoe to drop because it was
01:05:58.640
Specifically an anti-Semitic meme, which is like justify this hate speech charge where they want to throw him in jail.
01:06:08.780
The meme is like, it says like Jewish watch or something like this.
01:06:32.940
And I'm sure there's lots of stuff in Australia I could comment on,
01:06:36.600
but I actually don't know the specifics and the details of everything going on down there.
01:06:50.060
So this is very closely related to protests, big time related to protests.
01:07:23.380
Intimidation, building used for religious worship, etc.
01:07:27.900
So, every person commits an offense who engages in any conduct
01:07:46.200
How are they going to prove that that was the intent?
01:07:50.060
you know how do you prove that you want to invoke a provoke a state of fear because like
01:07:57.060
if you're somebody who wants to charge protesters you're going to be like oh my god i was afraid i
01:08:02.540
was afraid i was so afraid and it's like we were there with signs and it's like yeah well i was
01:08:06.940
afraid and it's like well you know how do you prove that that was the intent of the protesters
01:08:11.160
it's very it's very interesting way how they phrase it uh with the intent to provoke a state
01:08:16.680
to fear in a person in order to impede their access to a building or structure or part
01:08:22.740
of a building or structure that is primarily used for religious worship or by an identifiable
01:08:28.320
group as defined, we talked about identifiable group already, for administrative, social,
01:08:34.620
cultural, or sports activities or events as an educational institution, including a daycare
01:08:38.680
center or as a residence for seniors or a cemetery.
01:08:43.540
so what the the real the real trick here that i feel is really sticky is like
01:08:53.380
it's not every person commits an offense who stops their access to one of these places
01:09:02.820
they say anybody basically who's protesting near a certain building
01:09:08.980
and it's believed that the intent was to provoke a state of fear in a person
01:09:16.760
So it's not like physically blocking them from ever getting into the building necessarily
01:09:22.400
where like they're obstructing them and like physically, you know, whatever.
01:09:27.560
Then again, I guess kind of protests do do that.
01:09:30.740
But it's like, well, I mean, back to even, once again,
01:09:34.620
back to the even frame and premise of what this, why we would even need this.
01:09:38.060
intimidation a protest is is supposed to be intimidating it's supposed to provoke a sort
01:09:45.280
of sense of uh i don't know like hear us roar like hey i disagree with you like hey fuck you
01:09:51.840
listen to me sort of thing right like that's the that's the whole point of a protest
01:09:55.320
so anyway like there's a lot of questions about this i'll just hop to the questions i have about
01:10:03.100
this you know what if the protest is happening in chinatown you know there's plenty there's
01:10:11.120
probably places of worship there's identifiable groups there's the chinese community center
01:10:14.560
because a lot of these some of these marches that go around downtown they march through
01:10:22.220
chinatown and you know i'm just trying to i'm again lowest threshold lowest threshold to like
01:10:27.980
charge this stuff like if like if if a process if a crown prosecutor wanted to say all you need
01:10:35.440
is you get one clip of one chinese person who's like oh my god there's i was so afraid because
01:10:39.960
of the time oh my god this protest was intimidating chinese people right outside of the golden palace
01:10:47.080
it's a restaurant but you know like okay like they're intimidation so that's one thing um
01:10:56.440
it also says structure in the bill a building or structure or part of a building or structure
01:11:04.940
that is primarily used for religious worship like what if there's some event happening at
01:11:11.180
a government building and inside the building there was some sort of thing for Sikhs or for
01:11:17.120
Hindus or whatever there's some sort of like religious shit going on in the building the
01:11:21.460
protesters outside didn't know that but then all of a sudden oh you're intimidating seeks because
01:11:27.240
there's there's seeks in there that you're intimidating seeks now boom guilty intimidation
01:11:33.960
obviously none of this is is clarified but um yeah it's pretty like super open-ended per again
01:11:44.620
perfect toolkit if you're some corrupt bureaucrat and you want to crack down on protesters this
01:11:49.980
gives you all sorts of tools to uh to punish these people and to charge them criminally um
01:11:58.060
yeah what is the charge guilty of an indictable offense and liable to imprisonment for a term of
01:12:04.640
more than 10 years wow holy smokes i wonder who wrote this
01:12:12.780
don't say anything don't ruin it now can't say anything
01:12:17.900
vaultman pluto ny merce rex says the truth creates a state of fear among the demons in charge
01:12:29.320
it's true demons hate the truth they recoil they recoil at the uh at the site of truth
01:12:38.520
but uh yeah the intimidation charge real huge mess and and you know the question is who asked
01:12:49.940
definitely, it was definitely the Jewish community
01:12:52.020
that asked for this. They're getting all these protests
01:13:02.100
third world, they're upset. They're upset of what
01:13:14.140
i don't know what else to say um personally i don't like that these foreign conflicts
01:13:21.280
uh take up so much oxygen and this is kind of an argument against immigration and kind of like a
01:13:28.880
pro-remigration argument which is like um you've seen the hindus and the sikhs fighting each other
01:13:35.720
you've seen the muslims and the jews fighting each other you see how like and the worst cases
01:13:41.720
they're like we want to kill these people no we want to kill you people fuck you fuck you
01:13:45.560
um these foreign conflicts i'm sorry they're being used to justify some of these laws as we're seeing
01:13:52.740
right now with c9 i don't want more foreign groups here fighting with each other it's like it's like
01:13:59.820
it's like we can't have nice things we can't have freedom because of you guys you know i'm not i'm
01:14:05.020
not saying that's necessarily the case but you know like with all this like insane violence if
01:14:11.940
you've seen the sikh demonstrations too it's like man this is a good pretext for a regime if they
01:14:19.460
want to take our freedoms away these kind of totally inflammatory demonstrations and everything
01:14:24.380
it's crazy um that being said i'm not you know i'm not gonna allow this i'm not gonna bite and
01:14:31.520
say like, Oh yeah, because, because I don't like these Muslim demonstrations. I think we should
01:14:35.680
have our free speech taken away. I think that we should criminalize protests. No, no, no, no, no,
01:14:41.280
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The underlying theme of like what the
01:14:45.980
problem is here is like no one fucking debates anymore. No one actually has a conversation
01:14:51.620
anymore. The, the, the biggest failing in this country, I've been thinking about this a lot
01:14:56.960
recently and really getting pissed off. Are politicians part of the problem? Yeah, sure.
01:15:05.760
But here's the thing. You can kind of rely on a politician to be crooked and corrupt and
01:15:14.000
dishonest. I'm not saying that's their job, but because of all of the pressure, because of all
01:15:19.420
the push and pull of people trying to manipulate them or all of the kind of incentives around a
01:15:24.080
politician, yeah, sometimes they end up being scumbags. Sometimes they end up being crooks.
01:15:28.980
Sometimes they end up doing totally unlawful things, talking and speaking out both sides of
01:15:33.560
their mouths and being, you know, absolutely detestable with their behavior. Here's the thing.
01:15:41.860
We can expect that from a politician. Where is the media? Where is the journalists
01:15:48.100
investigating their crookedness, investigating their crimes, investigating all of this
01:15:53.820
corrupt nonsense that is the major failure in canada yeah i'm upset with the political class
01:15:59.960
too i'm upset with all these politicians and the bullshit they're getting away with it but why are
01:16:04.460
they getting away with it they're getting away with it because of the colossal failure of the
01:16:09.760
canadian news media if you are a journalist and you work for one of these major stations
01:16:14.840
you should be ashamed of yourself you know what's happening you know what's going on but your editor
01:16:21.220
says oh no we can't cover that story and we can't cover this story why because you're part of the
01:16:26.240
problem and the difference again the difference is once again the public has some sort of
01:16:31.400
expectation of maybe a politician is going to be a piece of shit and be corrupt but we expect the
01:16:36.120
media to catch them on that to get the scandal to get the scoop to call them out to hold them
01:16:44.280
accountable this is the major reason i got involved in politics to begin with wasn't because of a
01:16:50.460
corrupt politicians? It's because I saw the media was failing. I saw the media was not doing their
01:16:55.640
job. When's the last time you saw real investigative journalism, like hard-hitting investigative
01:17:02.480
journalism that's on something other than the Second Sons from the CBC? Their hard-hitting
01:17:08.920
journalism is trying to demonize boxing clubs. That's their hard-hitting journalism. That's what
01:17:14.580
they're focused on with all their fucking resources. That's what your tax dollars are
01:17:19.540
going towards not investigating the billions of dollars that disappear, not investigating the
01:17:25.160
corruption in the Canadian border services, not investigating the corruption in the, the
01:17:30.420
immigration, uh, various immigration policies and programs that are, that are totally, uh, being
01:17:37.580
exposed now. And, and, and that wasn't even a good list off the top of my head. Like, like there's
01:17:43.060
countless countless examples of corruption that's completely detestable and the news media is
01:17:51.220
fucking nowhere to be found they are the main problem they are the issue they should be ashamed
01:18:00.180
of themselves so ashamed of themselves because you know it's there you know it's there i've talked to
01:18:06.880
former i like off the record i've talked to former journalists before and they're like it's been as
01:18:11.240
it's as bad as you could imagine you know some black guy died got shot by a police officer
01:18:17.860
the editor wants me to take out the detail where the black guy shot first like they want to
01:18:23.940
manipulate these stories to fit a fucking narrative it's disgusting you are propagandists
01:18:29.500
that's my message to you you are not a journalist if you work for cbc of these major news outlets
01:18:35.020
you are a propagandist and you know this you're a propagandist who is kind of like in a drama club
01:18:42.100
theater club too because part of what you do is you make this play of like i'm not a propagandist
01:18:47.780
i'm telling you the real news you're part of the problem it's your job to hold corrupt politicians
01:18:54.460
and institutions accountable and you're failing start with yourself start with investigating your
01:18:59.760
own corrupt institution anyway i've been thinking about that for a little while now and just wanted
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to rant about that hat power speaking truth to the masses thank you for the super chat
01:19:08.380
cl n n s b e r i don't know what your nickname is i apologize but yeah fuck journal like fuck
01:19:16.420
the mainstream media journalist man like this is this is why this is why things are so terrible
01:19:24.340
instead of letting the people know what's actually going on like what the high priority corruption
01:19:29.480
is you're shilling propaganda to mislead everybody. And you're letting these corrupt
01:19:34.980
politicians off the hook. You're letting them do whatever the fuck they want. You're, you're the
01:19:39.020
minions. You're the minions of these corrupt politicians. It's just, it's like totally
01:19:45.360
detestable. I intensely dislike you. And if you're part of an identifiable group, I especially
01:20:23.000
I'm working on, I'm working on a mini documentary on Bill C9, hoping to get it out next week to
01:20:29.640
let people know all of the worst things about it. I'm going to draw from all the, over the 20
01:20:34.840
different interviews I did for my feature length documentary. I'm going to slip some of the clips
01:20:40.020
into this Bill C9 mini doc. I kind of, you know, I got all these clips to move in just to give it
01:20:44.820
credibility. But, um, I am also hiring other editors and, uh, we're just trying to build the
01:20:52.000
kind of like, you know, the, the marketing pool. So if you want to help out with that,
01:20:55.360
go to give saying go.com slash safe free speech. You can watch the trailer to the documentary if
01:20:59.800
you haven't seen it already. Um, but it's about how Canadian citizens are targeted,
01:21:05.160
censored and smeared and persecuted for having the wrong opinion in Canada. This stuff's already
01:21:09.140
happening. And obviously bill C nine is going to be a perfect excuse, more tools to keep doing
01:21:16.360
that. Um, the last one is the symbols. This one is also a doozy. It's, this is one that I think
01:21:27.940
I could be wrong, but this is one that I think that the, uh, conservative party maybe has not
01:21:34.720
touched. I'm not sure if they actually touched on this issue being a problem, but it definitely
01:22:43.680
but it's like if it's displayed in any public place,
01:22:53.900
of it's done for a journalistic purpose or that purpose,
01:22:59.780
for showing the wrong symbol for a split second,
01:23:03.800
then like, and especially if they don't like you,
01:23:05.780
you know they will they will probably do this actually i'm wondering if this is something that
01:23:10.480
needs to be approved of by the attorney general i will say the one saving grace of c9 as it's
01:23:16.820
written right now is they still do have the approval of the attorney general in there
01:23:22.240
this is the one saving grace uh again i don't think this bill should pass
01:23:27.820
i think it's terrible it should be thrown out they want to criminalize bible verses for fuck's
01:23:46.980
to you still need to get the approval of the attorney
01:23:57.920
anyway let's get into this last one which is the symbols
01:24:02.860
So they want to add part of willful promotion of hatred, terrorism, and hate symbols.
01:24:06.840
Everyone who commits an offense who willfully promotes hatred against any identifiable group
01:24:14.220
So just displaying a symbol could catch you a charge.
01:24:18.540
A symbol that is principally used or principally associated with a listed entity
01:24:28.260
So this is basically the terrorist watch list for a better, for better, for like a layman's term definition.
01:24:37.240
And that may sound, oh, you can't fly terrorist symbols.
01:24:42.400
The threshold of adding a group to the terrorism, terrorism list isn't that high.
01:24:50.260
You need the approval of like the public safety minister and like one other person.
01:24:54.180
and the threshold once again is like uh reasonable grounds if you have reasonable grounds reasonable
01:25:02.540
grounds to believe that this group might might commit terrorism then now they're terrorists
01:25:08.660
and again if you can imagine like a hysterical leftist activist who's putting pressure on the
01:25:16.520
public safety minister maybe the public safety minister is a radical activist you know to make
01:25:21.840
the argument that there might be terrorism from this group in the future oh my god uh it's a
01:25:28.180
pretty low threshold to be put on this list which is why god forbid but like the possibilities of
01:25:36.080
like a symbol becoming a criminal charge overnight is quite terrifying and the best example of course
01:25:42.460
is the proud boys the proud boys after what is it uh january 6th um
01:26:18.520
Canada labels the Proud Boys neo-Nazi groups as terrorists.
01:26:23.060
Move comes after media reports linked Proud Boy members
01:26:29.320
So, and that's pretty funny because it's like, okay, so this is an elite,
01:26:34.760
this would be, is this an illegal symbol now in Canada?
01:26:37.300
Oh, shit, did I just break the future C9 law by showing this on my live stream?
01:26:44.320
Is showing a picture of Gavin McGinnis' face, is that a hate symbol?
01:26:53.300
Because he was the leader of the, I don't know, he's the leader of the Proud Boys.
01:27:01.180
Am I committing a willful promotion of hatred right now?
01:27:06.240
Everyone who commits an offense under subsection to do.
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One researcher said that Proud Boys memberships
01:27:54.420
on Telegram channels grew nearly 10% after the debate.
01:28:05.180
in one of the Proud Boys' signature polo shirts.
01:29:14.140
You don't want it to be a Proud Boy polo shirt.
01:29:30.960
if some faggot journalist or journalist or hate expert not going to mention any names
01:29:40.600
uh you know like write some stupid piece of like this polo shirt's actually a white supremacist
01:29:48.500
dog whistle actually this symbol means that they really really hate black people they're like
01:29:55.660
really really bad oh well the hate expert said this oh my god everyone who wears this t-shirt
01:30:02.480
now is a terrorist and we're going to throw them in jail stupider things have happened
01:30:09.540
need i remind you of the diagonalon debacle during the trucker convoy i'm not going to rehash all of
01:30:18.180
it i probably will when i you know release official material connecting these dots of
01:30:25.020
how simple it is to get mistaken for a terrorist entity.
01:30:30.080
there's this podcast by someone named Jeremy McKenzie.
01:30:47.660
But essentially, Diagelon became the kind of nickname
01:30:53.140
and very controversial character says a lot of things probably one of the most critical
01:30:59.440
dissidents uh one of the most critical people of the canadian government especially during the
01:31:04.880
covet era and during the convoy because of a bunch of false information circulated by the
01:31:12.040
canadian anti-hate network and their contributors um they were kind of promoting the idea that this
01:31:17.240
was actually a terrorist group that wants to start a race war and senators repeated this it's funny
01:31:23.840
i want to make a mini doc appealing to senators but like some of these senators are retarded
01:31:27.860
apparently they don't fact check anything um yeah there are the slashes in chat so the someone's
01:31:37.720
like who uh yeah the idea that this canadian government might kind of be a little what's the
01:31:49.560
word too eager no it's not what's the word eager to uh when you're like overly enthusiastic like
01:31:56.640
you're too keen the idea that this canadian government might be a little keen to designate
01:32:03.020
terror group on a podcast for example you know it's not that far-fetched because it pretty well
01:32:11.460
happened close to happening um but uh yeah if you seriously haven't heard about this don't know what
01:32:17.920
i'm talking about you can look up uh hate gate the hate gate scandal by karima sad she kind of
01:32:23.420
goes over all goes over all of this information and uh yeah for what it's worth even cesus was
01:32:29.240
like, yeah, the CSIS was like, Diagon doesn't really seem to be like a group even, let alone
01:32:36.800
a kind of terrorist group. But yeah. So again, very concerning. Why should the, there's a lot
01:32:46.740
of different arguments and I'm wondering which, which is the best one. But when it comes to this
01:32:51.860
symbol nonsense, it's like, should the government have the capability of instantly criminalizing
01:32:59.240
a symbol overnight because that's kind of what it is right and also what is the benefit of
01:33:06.800
criminalizing a like genuine terrorist groups symbol you know like like if you are if you
01:33:13.080
support hezbollah or like one of these like you know hamas or whatever and you go to a protest
01:33:17.540
and like they're listed as a terrorist entity and like you're waving their flag like
01:33:21.360
maybe this is an excuse for the government to like maybe question you or like try to
01:33:29.900
identify you and be like hey why are you waving that flag can we ask you some questions like
01:33:34.040
maybe it's a reason to like start asking this person questions and like start to try and collect
01:33:37.900
intel or something like that um but it's like if you want to just criminalize those symbols then
01:33:44.200
like all those people are just going to go completely underground and not show any symbols
01:34:02.280
that these symbols that they want to instantly criminalize
01:34:15.940
and uh i think the swastika as well is it not called the swastika anyway um again who wrote
01:34:27.060
this who wrote this i wonder i i wonder who's super paranoid and concerned about these symbols
01:34:33.280
um this one is interesting that they want to criminalize the the nazi symbology
01:35:09.380
If I think it's true or not, but the kind of argument is that the argument is basically like this happened the very first weekend.
01:35:29.380
um the arguments in in that this was like planted is like uh obviously this was just to discredit
01:35:39.400
the convoy in the media you snap a picture of a nazi symbol you post it all over cbc you post it
01:35:43.860
all over everywhere oh my god it's a nazi rally this convoy is a nazi rally and that's essentially
01:35:48.560
what happened the very first weekend of the convoy but the thing is with bill c9 with bill c9
01:35:55.380
if it were to pass you just you go to any protest movement that's opposing the government
01:36:01.280
maybe they're opposing what's going on in israel maybe they're opposing immigration you know like
01:36:09.220
maybe whatever the protest might be you just need one guy in there to literally to literally put up
01:36:15.060
a false flag and say hey it's a there's a nazi flag snap the picture you got the evidence so
01:36:21.680
So let's go back to the law, displaying a flag in a public place.
01:36:30.180
So does that mean like everyone in the crowd is now guilty of that?
01:36:33.140
Only the person holding the flag was guilty of that?
01:36:35.880
Does that, going back to the intimidation thing,
01:36:38.720
does that like instantly say that this protest was motivated by hatred?
01:36:44.200
like does that is that like a legal element that's now be able to like be used in other
01:36:50.280
kind of like hate crime offenses um that of like protesters who might be charged at this protest
01:36:56.340
because you know if you're a corrupt government if you're a corrupt regime hiring somebody to
01:37:01.560
like put up a false flag like that it's really not that difficult it's really not that difficult
01:37:07.020
hey we need to completely discredit this uh protest organization okay great we we got our
01:37:12.160
guy. He'll just show up with the, uh, you know, undisclosed flag. That's illegal, literally
01:37:17.180
criminally illegal. So we'll just get that illegal symbol up there, criminalize the whole bunch of
01:37:21.720
them, throw them all in the paddy wagon, and then we'll get lunch. You know, it's all done. It's
01:37:26.300
all over with. Um, yeah, again, not really far, far fetched. I feel like most of this bill is
01:37:33.340
kind of written with that in mind. It's written with the corrupt regime in mind. Hey, how I said
01:37:38.300
this already but it's like hey how can we demonize
01:38:23.020
To try and pin people down if they don't like them
01:38:30.520
i'll just bring up the meme here nice knowing you guys i'm going to jail
01:38:42.220
but uh so there's the swastika obviously but there's also this also called the swastika
01:38:49.960
from hindu i guess or hindu or something like this the hack and kriz um you know
01:39:00.140
So it's kind of obvious that this religion, this, this combating hate bill, that's going to protect religious groups.
01:39:08.340
It's kind of obvious that they're playing favorites.
01:39:10.920
Don't you think like, they're like, Hey, we're going to ban this like anti-Jewish symbol, the swastika.
01:39:18.940
But it's like, Hey, well, there's a religious group that actually uses that symbol.
01:39:29.340
you serious hey what about uh what about christians all their churches are burning down
01:39:35.460
yeah we're gonna protect him with this bill it's like yeah but aren't you saying that parts of
01:39:40.500
their religious texts are literally illegal well yeah i mean we're gonna fucking throw some of them
01:39:45.800
in jail but we're also gonna protect them huh huh huh what a mess what a mess um but shout outs
01:39:59.000
So my Buddhist Hindu fans, I know that like this is a big part for you.
01:40:03.040
You're like, Greg, like we need our Hindu Buddhist symbol.
01:40:12.080
Me and Dominion Society are making it a top priority to make sure that we can protect this Hindu symbol.
01:40:17.980
It's the most important battle of our lifetime.
01:40:23.100
i i uh yeah i realized how that could be like red as a sort of like cryptic neo-nazi dog whistle
01:40:31.840
which most of my work completely is if you haven't noticed anti-hate you should be looking
01:40:37.320
into between the lines you'd be looking into the details um but i think that's i don't know guys
01:40:43.640
thanks so much for watching i don't know what else to really let's go over it real quick
01:40:48.040
No, there's some questions that I probably missed.
01:40:55.620
Should not interrupt, says Circulon and Triangulon are feeling left out.
01:41:09.500
Steve750 says, it's rooted in much more than Germany and Hindu do.
01:41:13.940
um yeah i mean it's the symbol shit is fucking stupid man the ship the symbol stuff is really
01:41:24.200
really dumb i i think it's flying under the radar because people don't want to be that guy to like
01:41:29.340
what are you are you defending the swastika and like the the nazi fucking lightning bolts and
01:41:35.080
it's like no it's just a bad president to have like a legal framework where you could instantly
01:42:10.080
to them? No, they probably view that as a hate symbol. And Jews look at the Palestinian flag
01:42:17.260
and a watermelon emoji. And they say, that's a hate symbol. So like this, and this is kind of
01:42:27.280
like the frame, another frame of kind of fighting against this bill, which is like, people hate each
01:42:34.180
other, guys. Different groups don't like each other. They're combating hate bill. What, you're
01:42:40.980
going to stop people hating each other? Like, you're going to stop, you're going to stop like
01:42:45.700
thousand-year-old blood feuds with your little, with your little legislation? In reality, it is
01:42:52.740
a toolbox from authoritarians or tyrants or dictators, wherever you want to say it, because
01:42:59.180
we are in this multicultural mess now in Canada, because there's all these foreign conflicts
01:43:05.160
happening in Canada, because there's a growing tension between the native population and
01:43:11.500
the immigrant population invading, because there's all this tension in this multicultural
01:43:20.560
And these tyrants are like, great, let's say we're going to stop hate.
01:43:24.020
But really what it is, we now have all the tools to criminalize whoever we want, whoever's kind of like making too much noise in the wrong direction.
01:43:32.460
Anybody who's kind of like fucking up our shit, challenging our power, undermining the legitimacy of our power, we're going to say that they're hateful in one way or another because we have so many different options to do this.
01:43:54.020
I'll go over a few more things before we get going just to make sure it's all ironed out.
01:44:02.980
So I kind of said this already, but like how low is the threshold to add a group to the terrorist entity list?
01:44:08.400
If I'm not mistaken, it's literally like you need the minister of public safety and you need like the checkmark from like one other person.
01:44:13.920
And all they need to do is like prove reasonable grounds or they might commit terrorism.
01:44:22.700
if a symbol has a so if a symbol is at a protest for example um who makes the factual determination
01:44:31.420
that it is a like terrorist symbol at the point of arrest is like is the police officer going to
01:44:37.880
be like making that call you know and like when when does the person get the chance to defend
01:44:43.100
themselves because like you know if some police gets uppity over a symbol that they think is a
01:44:47.660
terrorist entity and maybe it's like it's similar maybe it's not like again like the major problem
01:44:51.720
with all of this stuff, you might have these faggots. You might have these people trying to
01:44:57.120
defend this bill saying, no, no, no, that wouldn't happen because there's a thing in there that says
01:45:02.200
this won't happen. And it's like, yeah, but it doesn't matter because if someone gets successfully
01:45:06.500
charged, then they have to go through the pain, painful, expensive, long, soul-sucking legal
01:45:12.480
process to defend themselves. And that's the punishment. The process is the punishment.
01:45:26.180
it'll effectively neutralize them at least temporarily
01:45:43.800
it's been kind of beaten to death by the conservative parties
01:45:54.600
what is the legal distinction between a pastor reading Leviticus 2013
01:45:58.640
from the pulpit to his congregation versus reading it aloud at a public event?
01:46:05.080
Like we heard earlier that Mark Miller is saying that parts of the Bible are hate speech.
01:46:11.900
Like you can be criminally charged or like there's a criminal implication.
01:47:01.420
maybe the church has gone too far with this one.
01:47:15.140
is they have kept them in this very soft, safe,
01:47:40.700
They're not anything evil or anything like that.
01:47:47.620
They've done such a great job at keeping people in this like really safe, soft, mushy environment.
01:47:55.280
And this is a reason why I'm taking more time to recut the documentary.
01:48:00.700
Because I'm like, this is not going to grab people outside of the AO chamber effectively enough to like to really kind of like show them this.
01:48:12.260
And if you haven't heard, if you're just tuning in, the goal is creating a mini doc for Bill C9 and getting that out as soon as possible.
01:48:23.180
I have friends who are editors who I pay to help with this work.
01:48:29.960
So if you don't want to support this, then go to give saying go dot com slash say free speech.
01:48:34.600
It's going to help me kind of turn this stuff around quicker, along with all the other stuff.
01:48:41.660
the full length documentary when it's finished.
01:48:46.540
the long form interviews of the people I talked to a lot of work to do.
01:48:51.800
then go to give saying go.com slash save free speech.
01:48:54.340
You can watch the trailer if you haven't seen it already.
01:48:56.720
There's a lot of stuff I want to do with the save free speech.ca,
01:49:04.120
like there's a lot of stuff that I want to do in the future,
01:49:24.860
Israel probably just should have banned the Palestinian flag to win.
01:49:37.940
and it's like wait who wrote this silverberg wrote c9 the interesting uh no we're just making jokes
01:49:46.940
here guys we're just making jokes here thanks so much for for tuning in um and yeah i mean dude
01:49:54.500
it's it's it's overwhelming right now guys if you're if you're trapped on your twitter feed
01:49:58.640
get off your twitter feed go for a walk read a book like i don't know if i speak for you guys
01:50:04.420
But like sometimes I'm on the Twitter feed these days and I'm like, dude, this is, this is dark.
01:50:11.760
And it's like, you can only focus on one thing at a time.
01:50:16.760
You got to lock in, lock into the one thing that you're going to focus on.
01:50:23.520
And, uh, but yeah, no, it feels good to be back.
01:50:25.700
I definitely want to get doing more live streams.
01:50:27.760
It's really helps me kind of air out a lot of my thoughts and that sort of thing.
01:50:43.940
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productive I'm good real quick side note here quick side note like I love old people I love
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the older people in my life I love baby boomers okay I love boomers I love you guys but oh my
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gosh there is only so many podcasts you can watch about the world burning there's only so many
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podcasts you can watch about how it's so over. There's only pot, many podcasts you can watch
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about how bad the conspiracy is and how bad this is and how that is, you know, I'd say, especially
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since the end of the convoy, if you've tracked my progress or my content since then, my content
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has evolved a lot since the convoy, mostly because I'm like, how can I actually be effective at
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changing anything you know i'm totally not satisfied at like just commiserating or talking
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about how bad things are i know this like this fucking video is called like oh it's worse than
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you think or whatever but like you know this is driving towards you know trying to change hearts
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and minds trying to reach out of the echo chamber trying to like build something that's going to
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help us and i feel more and more it's like i'm watching less and less political content because
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Sometimes I feel like it's just this thing that's like,
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out there but sometimes i see some sometimes i have these older these baby boomers and i love
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in my life i love them but like i'll see them watching like podcast after podcast and i'm like
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you need to go for a walk bro you need to go for a walk dude anyway love you guys thanks for
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watching and uh we will talk to you very soon um love you love you until next time