Greg Wycliffe - January 27, 2023


Can we trust Rebel News？ ｜ Controlled Op 04


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00:00:00.000 Jeremy McKenzie is a Canadian veteran and political podcaster who was debanked last week.
00:00:04.980 Jeremy is the canary in the coal mine when it comes to the slow creep of authoritarianism
00:00:09.580 in this country.
00:00:10.740 And it was very disappointing to see Rebel News, the largest alternative right-wing media
00:00:15.540 company in Canada, implying that he's mentally ill, that he's an alcoholic.
00:00:19.800 It's very disappointing to see.
00:00:21.080 And it's very uncomfortable to have this conversation, but we need to.
00:00:24.900 And that conversation starts right now.
00:00:26.780 I promise you, I will not let you down.
00:00:30.000 The trucks parked outside illegally should move.
00:00:34.180 Canada's Conservatives will meet our Paris climate commitment.
00:00:37.900 Enough with the wrong s**t.
00:00:40.000 So, Mr. Speaker, I take that back.
00:00:41.620 To champion our Conservative principles.
00:00:43.840 We are the party of law and order.
00:00:45.720 To call in the auditors.
00:00:47.040 We haven't yet decided whether we're going to call for the government to impose a mandatory test or vaccination.
00:00:53.300 And we will win the next election.
00:01:00.000 Canada must not ignore the reality of climate change.
00:01:17.920 Why weren't Canadians vaccinated in January and February like everyone else?
00:01:30.000 ladies and gentlemen welcome to controlled opposition episode four with me is a very
00:01:37.580 special guest tonight i like to call him the number one political dissident in canada and
00:01:42.800 he seems to be living up to that reputation being the most banned man the bankless man now
00:01:48.860 ladies and gentlemen the one and only jeremy mckenzie how are you doing tonight sir i never
00:01:53.900 liked a bank anyway who needs him who needs him thanks rick how are you i well i'm doing better
00:01:59.540 than you i can say that much um sure that's what you think it was very inspiring to see that people
00:02:05.560 uh really right after the announcement of you being debanked it was going viral the next day
00:02:10.540 you had uh viva fry tweeting about it um and viva fry even started a a fundraiser for you which is
00:02:17.400 very gracious of him and i let the link for that in the description below if you want to support
00:02:21.280 jammy or support the show then then go on down to that link which is givesango.com
00:02:25.280 slash mckenzie um but uh yeah i also sent out a tweet earlier in the week which was hey rebel news
00:02:34.080 hey jordan b peterson hey true north center i really hope you're going to talk about this
00:02:40.940 because this is like we're seeing the slow creep of authoritarianism happen in this country and
00:02:46.660 um obviously you've kind of gone through the gamut over over the past year here but when it
00:02:52.600 comes to the show controlled opposition i knew we were going to get into this topic eventually
00:02:56.320 i didn't realize it was going to be happening so soon and that topic of course is the uh the
00:03:02.600 journalism like i started off the show we started off the show saying you know i'm kind of tired
00:03:06.120 talking about justin trude all the time okay because there's a lot of valid criticism for
00:03:10.720 pierre paulieva the conservative party and it's the same thing with the media i'm kind of tired
00:03:14.760 of talking about toronto star all the time or cbc all the time because of course there's a lot of
00:03:20.160 ridicule and criticism that we can direct towards CBC and Toronto Star. But there are alternative
00:03:25.960 right-wing outlets that are also worthy of criticism. And I thought after seeing the way
00:03:30.700 Rebel News kind of reported on your story, it's time to talk about this. I know you're somebody
00:03:36.180 who likes to really be a leader, be strong in the face of horrible things. But how did it make you
00:03:43.300 feel, honestly, when you saw this kind of reaction or this kind of reporting from Rebel News on you
00:03:49.480 being debanks um i was uh i was surprised they covered it at all actually because as as you're
00:03:55.660 aware and many other people are aware they have a pretty good track record of um pretending that
00:03:59.860 i don't exist um i assume that that's probably uh how they were going to go with it um i watched
00:04:06.880 the clip and i was really surprised at the lack of professionalism at the pettiness at the kind of
00:04:15.700 you know off-handed jet like this was just seemed like a reason to like um we're just gonna attack
00:04:21.780 this guy and shit on him and then and then basically like yeah just send us money it was
00:04:25.780 it was kind of a throwaway like there was over there and again i don't care i'm i've been through
00:04:29.620 a lot right but i i imagine if i'm not me if someone else to be you know to to be treated
00:04:35.940 like that and talked about in that way and the stigmatization of veterans and stuff and just a
00:04:40.140 lot of really really really no zero thought very lazy put into this and things that were said and
00:04:46.340 it's just uh you know like you're saying earlier it's it's you know one thing to go on about the
00:04:51.600 you know the liberal party of canada we can do that all day but what they're not going to do or
00:04:55.480 care anything you know they don't care what we say and we have a lot more power potentially in
00:05:00.240 in trying to police our own our own ranks as it were and i think that's something that should be
00:05:05.520 done i don't i don't think that um i don't really like this idea where people are you know don't
00:05:09.840 attack your own we need to have better standards we we can't allow you know things like this need
00:05:15.000 to be need to be addressed and i would have said the exact same thing if it was about anyone else
00:05:18.560 not just because it was me yeah no absolutely um and and we'll get into the very first clip right
00:05:24.460 now i was i was shocked when i saw this and yeah we'll just play this right now far now to be clear
00:05:30.460 i don't personally know him whatsoever at all and what i do know about him i'm frankly not
00:05:35.740 all that impressed with i think he's a deeply troubled character who doesn't do himself or
00:05:41.340 the people around him any real favors and because of that he is in an absolute world of hurt and
00:05:48.140 trouble but none of that changes the fact that mckenzie should be able to use a bank in this
00:05:53.820 country the way convicted terrorists and rapists can use them and he's been ordered to stay away
00:05:59.340 from booze and i think that's probably a really great idea domestic assault rape child sex
00:06:06.060 offenses and still use a bank in this country you can even be an outspoken vulgar crass individual
00:06:11.580 with mental health and addiction struggles and still use a bank account in this country
00:06:17.500 like they don't exactly make you sound good here um at all whatsoever they're they're associating
00:06:24.460 you know rapists and criminals like right with your name it reminds me of when we first started
00:06:28.540 were run for the people's party in 2019 and uh another candidate there had a story that their
00:06:34.160 name was in this article right next to this guy with like a swistika tattoo on his chest and it's
00:06:38.720 like just like putting those two things together in a news article really doesn't make you look
00:06:43.020 good you know it's deliberate yeah it's and and that's the thing like it's to say to say that
00:06:49.800 there isn't any sort of like knowledge of of what they're doing it's like uh it's it's hard to say
00:06:55.220 and i guess we should have a disclaimer like you know we're not saying that oh my god rebel news
00:07:00.380 has controlled opposition we are here to have this conversation and to simply be critical of
00:07:05.520 journalism just like we would be critical of journalism on the other side of the aisle or
00:07:09.960 critical of journalism from legacy media to not criticize people on your side like so i'll use
00:07:15.340 this example from my time in the military and the special forces specifically they would never ever
00:07:20.320 tell you they would never come down and patch in the back and say you're doing a good job or
00:07:23.480 anything like that's just not how they operate they would look for everything they were doing
00:07:26.600 you were doing wrong and criticize you on absolutely everything that you were doing wrong
00:07:30.080 so you could eventually you're as perfect as you can possibly be um to just accept ah good enough
00:07:36.360 was never a part of the lexicon it was always like nope do it again do it again you suck at this and
00:07:40.380 you suck at that you should be doing it for the purpose of rounding out your abilities and your
00:07:44.040 skills so that overall everything because there's no if you're doing something very well there's no
00:07:47.540 need to address that because that is running optimally there's nothing nothing to be done
00:07:51.680 about that everything's running exactly the way it should carry on you know there's no reason to
00:07:55.440 spend any time there so you go around looking for you know the weeds in the garden as it were to
00:07:59.020 pull them out or you know fix the problem so when you see something like that it's it's like to not
00:08:03.600 address it and not say something about it does everyone a disservice yeah yeah and it's um i mean
00:08:09.940 i was gonna say this in the intro like you know number one uh dissident in canada you could also
00:08:14.540 say you are one of the number one rebels in this country in in terms of being outspoken and it
00:08:20.500 really pains me and anyone who's a fan of you it really pains me to see to see you characterized
00:08:25.120 like this because it's not like you went viral once or you had like one kind of nice speech here
00:08:31.320 or there like you have been doing this for years now and you're making a living off of it and quite
00:08:36.140 frankly we're going to talk about this later you are kind of a competitor to rebel news when it
00:08:40.620 comes to uh you know podcasts specifically you broadcast on an on week like over nine hours a
00:08:46.520 week and your podcast if i'm not mistaken is already back in the top 50 of uh apple podcasts
00:08:52.280 canadian political news uh downloads congratulations congratulations by the way oh thank you after
00:08:58.860 taking a couple of months off i went to have a vacation i was just tired and i wanted some me
00:09:03.060 time so you know i was like all right i'll go to i'll go to prison for a couple yeah he's he went
00:09:07.840 to jail folks he's kidding he is his uh vacation was uh the saskatoon correctional facility really
00:09:13.520 great food really great accommodation and um i'd also like to uh i'd also like to point out that i
00:09:19.160 am definitely not in a a world of hurt i don't know who got that impression do you have that
00:09:23.740 does anyone else am i giving anyone the impression that i'm like really struggling and suffering over
00:09:28.440 here uh well that's that's definitely not the case so i don't want anybody to get that idea
00:09:32.760 and what bothered me about that is the implication which is you know well he's that he is saying all
00:09:37.960 these things and like that's why this is happening to him like there was kind of an implication of
00:09:41.800 that in the way it was framed you know which which i really don't like because let's face it
00:09:46.800 when when they attack rebel news for various reasons it's because they are so innocent and
00:09:51.620 valiant and they're so truthful and they're the best and they're the best and it's like i tend to
00:09:55.060 agree you know what i mean like you are doing the news you're trying to do your thing and like
00:09:58.660 especially because you are somebody who wants to oppose the trudeau regime i'm going to stand by
00:10:03.180 you rebel news i'm going to stand by you even though maybe there's some things that you've
00:10:07.580 gotten wrong in the past which i'm i'm if i'm not mistaken there are like you know valid criticisms
00:10:11.680 but because you are the one on the chopping block i'm going to stand by you so that's why it's really
00:10:16.440 sad that when when you know you're getting attacked they're like sort of standing by you
00:10:21.360 but like throwing mud all over your character yeah like come on i mean i and it's not uh it's
00:10:26.540 not a show like i'm very confident in my position and i'm not i'm not worried i sleep fine at night
00:10:31.260 because i know what i've done and what i haven't done i know what the situation is i know what's
00:10:35.360 true and what isn't true um so it i'm a popular guy to hate right now and i have been for a while
00:10:40.200 for a number of reasons because the the subjects and the targets of of my you know criticism and
00:10:45.220 my words are are powerful people with with you know something to lose i don't sit here i don't
00:10:50.360 you know i don't spend waste my time engaging in this facebook boomer gossip and back and this
00:10:54.000 guy's a fan and that guy's i don't care about that we have monsters running this place literal you
00:10:59.040 know real real live monsters uh that are preying upon the people of this country people i signed
00:11:04.840 up to you know defend and protect and that's i mean why would i waste my time you know with this
00:11:09.860 kind of stuff so obviously they're going to attack me and this this is what's going to happen and
00:11:12.620 that's that's the real that's the main issue that's the cause it's like taking time out of
00:11:16.420 a war because you know your neighbor parked his truck too close to your like who cares about that
00:11:21.020 we've got bigger problems you know bigger problems that that's a that's exactly right
00:11:25.120 there is so much lies incompetence and corruption happening in this country and of course we can
00:11:30.480 talk all day about how trudeau's guilty of this and guilty of that but the whole reason we started
00:11:33.760 the show is because well pierre polyev isn't doing that you know and and it's and you're right
00:11:38.400 it it is does seem like a very petty thing to instead of focus on the lies um incompetence
00:11:44.120 and corruption going on it's like well you know this veteran guy um he has like a whole bunch of
00:11:48.900 these issues and like we're going to talk about all these issues and did you know he said this
00:11:52.500 once and he made a joke about that the one time and it's like is that really something that's
00:11:56.320 relevant and and we're gonna we're gonna talk later and bring that up because it's like you
00:12:00.260 know this is actually feeling like cancel culture-y which in my opinion is what i do not like
00:12:06.200 about the leftist establishment and it's it pains us to see it happening uh on the people who are
00:12:11.300 supposed to be you know supporting us right and again it's like it's disappointing you see people
00:12:16.080 that are all uh you know it's just it's again it's just because it's me it's like well there's
00:12:21.180 all these accusations exactly they're accusations nothing's been proven i've never even been to
00:12:25.560 court nothing's been proven anywhere nothing's even been tested and you're believing the word
00:12:29.860 well who said this oh well the corrupt media and the corrupt rcmp oh well then that must be the end
00:12:35.980 of the story she herself admitted at the opening she doesn't know me she's never talked to me that
00:12:40.360 is accurate she's never even tried to either there was no inbox empty phone no missed calls
00:12:45.920 i'm not hard to get a hold of it wouldn't have taken her very long and i certainly would have
00:12:49.440 certainly would have taken the call replied to an email had they even bothered to ask for my
00:12:53.400 perspective or comments or clarification on any of the number of wildly inaccurate things that she
00:12:57.800 said but they chose not to do that um don't get mad at me you know i didn't tell you not i didn't
00:13:03.260 tell you to show up and do a bad job at work today so and that's exactly it this again folks
00:13:08.160 this isn't about like oh you know rebel news is this or that it's it's we are following we're
00:13:14.080 following the truth really and the job for them is to do journalism and speaking of that we're
00:13:19.340 going to play this next clip here um uh where yeah it's it speaks to not doing a great job as
00:13:25.540 a journalist. Here it goes. Back to Jeremy McKenzie. Who is this guy? Well, according to
00:13:30.600 the Liberals, he's a terrorist. He's the founder of Diagalon, which is, according to the Liberals,
00:13:36.240 some sort of accelerationist terrorist group akin to Hamas. In reality, I think it's a joke about
00:13:41.420 carving North America in half diagonally to keep the Liberals on one side and the freedom-minded
00:13:46.180 people on the other. It's, I think, a flag company with a joke attached to it. Now, to be fair,
00:13:54.480 not everybody knows the lore of uh diagonal on and but i do and you could have asked me
00:14:02.660 this is true this is true and i mean while we're on the topic we obviously have to uh you've told
00:14:08.980 me this uh in private before but i think it's a good time to bring it up which is you're talking
00:14:13.260 about how they ignore your existence um and you know when the whole diagonal thing was happening
00:14:18.440 the emergencies act diagonal for those who don't know uh diagonal on is a uh made up meme that
00:14:25.460 jeremy made up while he was live streaming one night and it became a running joke and the point
00:14:29.940 is is that uh you know the ccist the rcmp senators in the house of uh senators in the senate and then
00:14:37.200 uh members of parliament in the house of commons started to use this word diagonal to associate
00:14:40.980 essentially with your podcast community but instead of calling it a podcast community they're
00:14:44.900 like this is a militia that wants to accelerate racial tensions and like all this insanity that
00:14:50.720 is uh based on a bunch of lies essentially and this is a huge huge huge story okay this is our
00:14:56.380 like the largest institutions in our country make like you running with this meme country idea and
00:15:02.240 essentially using it to justify the use of the emergencies act this is a huge story and then
00:15:09.040 yeah that's that's exactly what happened and you know we had the uh you know these these
00:15:14.120 these hack jobs these smear merchants these liners that the you know anti-hate network and
00:15:18.120 their affiliates who are paid by the government to attack their their opposition people that they
00:15:22.060 want to be uh you know attacked and smeared and have the reputations and and they laid out all
00:15:26.740 this stuff and say all these wildly crazy that that are not uh not verified by anyone no no one's
00:15:31.500 looked into any of this they just took it at face value and again yeah the story is you know you
00:15:35.900 can think whatever you want about me or my friends or my you know whoever's supporters um when the
00:15:41.900 people that are trusted to man the walls at night and protect you and your family and keep this
00:15:45.480 country safe from things like uh you know terrorism when they can't tell the difference
00:15:49.440 between uh people on the internet you know having fun and talking trash and al-qaeda that is a
00:15:55.620 serious problem that's that's embarrassing that if i saw this happening i'm sure they have you
00:16:00.880 know if i'm in the american intelligence establishment or the british or something i
00:16:04.200 would be no one talked to canada anymore they are a liability uh they're a joke or and that's the
00:16:11.020 best case scenario that's better than the alternative which is they knew but they ran
00:16:16.380 with it anyway because there's a political opportunity here and who cares whose lives
00:16:20.120 we destroy in the process and very very probably there could be you know people sitting in jail in
00:16:25.020 alberta for over a year now almost um because politics and it's which which scenario would
00:16:31.620 you like it's one or the other because where's the no there's never been any proof that none of
00:16:37.020 this to all the stuff that they said oh you're going to all the they're out there they created
00:16:40.780 they enacted a martial law basically the emergency measures act formerly the war measures act
00:16:45.480 to stop this problem and and my you know audience essentially was was used as justification
00:16:51.860 for this and then since then nothing has happened where if this was such a impending doom problem
00:16:59.040 where are the arrests where are the weapon caches where's the leaders where is any of it
00:17:04.020 nothing happened because it never existed and now they're running around with their tails when
00:17:08.000 they're like so again rebel was aware of this story i talked to them about it they were like
00:17:12.780 what in the name of god they blew their minds and then we worked on this story for 10 days or so
00:17:16.900 and on a tuesday morning it was supposed to be you know i was gonna you know uh remotely obviously
00:17:22.360 we're gonna do an interview and and um that didn't happen because the evening prior right before
00:17:27.760 there's a gas something came up last minute and i never heard from them again um so they they're
00:17:32.300 they're well aware and again they could have asked they could have called they chose not to
00:17:35.300 um so and then it's strange that after being in touch with you for over 10 days and wanting to do
00:17:43.380 a story with you and knowing all of the at least somebody at rebel news knowing all of the lore
00:17:47.400 about um about diagonal and about how it connects to the emergencies act and all of the very very
00:17:53.180 troubling implications of this and how you are sort of being picked on which is an understatement
00:17:58.900 really uh by you know the major establishments in this country the fact that they would that at
00:18:04.340 least someone at rebel news would know all this and then turn around and kind of just call you
00:18:09.640 all these names essentially and associate you with like some of the worst of the worst uh kind
00:18:14.040 of criminals it's it's really disgusting you know my again i i don't know i i don't haven't talked
00:18:21.260 to anybody in there obviously no one from rebels talked to me i can only speculate i i'm my guess
00:18:26.140 My gut feeling is they are, you know, chagrined or reluctant to say anything supportive or positive in my direction.
00:18:36.160 Well, lately, because of the the peeps, you know, situation, they don't want to upset those people in that camp.
00:18:43.020 And prior to that, I've always I've been an outspoken critic of the Israeli government as well.
00:18:47.580 And they're obviously very pro, you know, Israel over there and rebel.
00:18:52.000 And so I think that's probably for those two reasons.
00:18:55.080 However, in the interest of professionalism,
00:18:57.560 was the story about any of those things?
00:19:00.160 No.
00:19:00.920 It was about citizens of this country
00:19:02.820 having their bank accounts terminated
00:19:04.060 with no cause, with no explanation,
00:19:06.520 and that shouldn't happen.
00:19:07.700 That shouldn't be something that happens in Canada,
00:19:09.320 and is this politically motivated?
00:19:11.180 I think probably yes.
00:19:12.720 A lot of people seem to think that for good reason,
00:19:15.220 while they can read a pattern and read a room,
00:19:17.700 and I've not received any suggestions to the contrary.
00:19:21.720 They mailed me their letter with their explanation,
00:19:23.620 and it said nothing i didn't even have a name of anyone to contact it just said we're terminating
00:19:28.120 your accounts you have 30 days goodbye um and that was it so that's the story and instead it turned
00:19:33.780 into preface this into how much this guy is a piece of trash and like you mentioned earlier
00:19:38.220 i've done a lot of things over the last five or six years and you chose to focus in on this
00:19:41.940 you know you chose to you zoom in on the fly in the ointment he's been arrested a lot of times
00:19:47.800 geez over the last few years no it was a couple of times in a span of about six months all relating
00:19:52.320 to well i can't really get into it but uh you'll see you'll all see there's not enough crows in
00:19:57.360 this country that are going to be needed to be cooked up fried and fed for everybody to eat by
00:20:01.340 the time this is all over but um again we'll i'll see you when we get there because we're going to
00:20:05.860 get there yeah and and folks like we don't beat around the bush on this show you know it when it
00:20:11.200 comes to the world of politics it's about power and it's about money and and you know there there
00:20:15.180 are political parties that are that are vying for that seat pp and the conservative party of canada
00:20:19.860 is vying for that seat and i'm sure they have a lot of big donors i'm sure that rebel has a lot
00:20:24.580 of big donors and i would not be surprised if some of these donors know each other like and
00:20:29.300 they don't like me and uh you know the case in point is rebel news doesn't really criticize
00:20:36.500 pierre poly have like ever do they i and that's another thing in the comments or in the chat like
00:20:42.900 if if rebel news has criticized pierre poly have please let me know let me know what what to look
00:20:47.220 for what to search for because i would love to see it and my you know take on it is is their
00:20:53.040 business model is essentially conservative outrage they they target things that what what
00:20:57.680 makes conservatives angry and pissed off and oh my god that's what they do it's not really that
00:21:02.440 that's that's what they do uh they're not really i've never seen them cover or say anything critical
00:21:06.700 of of anyone in the conservative party ever to be honest it's basic but i mean we've been living
00:21:11.560 under this regime for so long and and i don't i don't really remember the harper years that well
00:21:15.540 so i can't go back that far but um you know that's it and on my end i i'll go after anybody
00:21:21.240 because i just basically just trying to live my life i see something that's untrue or upsetting
00:21:25.520 or disturbing or whatever you don't get a free pass because you have a blue tie on that's not
00:21:30.420 how this works that's what they do that's what the other side does right we have a moral foundation
00:21:34.180 here and we care about the truth and we care about right and wrong and i'm not going to turn a blind
00:21:37.640 eye to something that's messed up because some rich guy is going to be upset about his panties
00:21:41.600 are going to get twisted up that's not who i am and that's never what i'm going to be so if that's
00:21:45.120 what they want to do i don't know i'm just speculating but again you know they have their
00:21:50.480 game i'm playing mine i didn't ask to be included they came and decided they were going to do this
00:21:56.060 and they didn't even ask my opinion so that's why we're here and that's why we got to have this
00:22:00.300 conversation guys it's about it's about the truth it's about having a you know self-respect really
00:22:04.380 because uh you know they're they're disrespecting our friend jeremy for those just tuning in you
00:22:08.680 know rebel news they don't even call you by name just they call you a controversial canadian vet
00:22:13.160 right uh which which is really upsetting because it does remind me sorry to say it does remind me
00:22:18.440 of the way in which they did this to james top they didn't say hey james top you know very
00:22:23.140 decorated veteran marching across the entire country the legacy media said oh some disgraced
00:22:27.840 veteran who's like criticizing the vax mandate yeah it's like it's it's really truly dishonest
00:22:33.060 because i couldn't even find this because i was using i was using your name and i couldn't even
00:22:37.000 find this article and and disgrace to whom because everyone i know in in the veteran community is in
00:22:43.240 awe of that man and i i don't care if they stripped him down to private and and kicked him out of the
00:22:47.960 military he'll always he'll always be back to jerry mackenzie who is this guy stop to me and
00:22:52.460 everybody else that knows what uh knows what he's done sorry about that um yeah and i mean speaking
00:22:58.760 of that uh maybe we'll just play this actually this next clip here clip number four because she
00:23:05.320 does she does say something that's that's really speaking of veterans you know i'm gonna try not
00:23:10.400 to get upset just breathe just breathe okay i'm gonna play it here and i'm going to take a pretty
00:23:15.120 even-handed approach here because mckenzie is a canadian veteran and i think he's dealing with
00:23:22.080 some of the psychological fallout and trauma related to serving for 13 or 14 years and i think
00:23:28.940 that's why mckenzie does many of the things he does and says many of the things he says
00:23:33.140 i don't know if mckenzie's sober now but i think alcohol played a big role in some of his bad
00:23:39.320 behavior frankly much of his bad behavior i mean that's really disgraceful because because to me
00:23:46.180 if there's anyone who has a right to speak out if there's anybody who has more of a right than
00:23:51.540 anyone to voice their righteously anger angry opinion it's someone like yourself it's someone
00:23:57.360 who's already served this country and has lost uh brothers overseas fighting for what this country
00:24:04.500 is supposed to represent and i mean i'm sure you have yeah well yeah it's not even so much as
00:24:10.600 i mean i don't i don't feel like i deserve i feel like i have to i feel like it's my my duty to to
00:24:15.820 alert people to things i think are wrong and messed up it's what we that's why we why were
00:24:20.640 you in the military it's like well i'm here to you know for the protect the gang you know home
00:24:25.300 team and so on. And that's what we're continuing to do here. And to say that, to perpetuate
00:24:33.140 the stigmatization of veterans that like, oh, there's a veteran over here who's
00:24:37.620 yelling about something. He must be mentally ill. I mean, do I have to say it? I don't think
00:24:44.120 anybody really needs me to elaborate. I think they know exactly where I'm going with this.
00:24:47.580 That's disgusting. I mean, that's just flat out disgusting. And number two, are you a doctor?
00:24:52.640 you've diagnosed oh i must be mentally ill and furthermore this is the cause uh this is the
00:24:58.880 method this is the pathology now we're gonna get of all of the things that i say and do is because
00:25:03.380 of this oh and probably also i'm i'm probably drunk too for everything that i say it was a gag
00:25:08.500 you know a lot of this uh you know jim lahey was famously you know drunk all the time the guy didn't
00:25:13.500 even drink you know um again they could have called we could have talked about this they could
00:25:17.760 have explained a lot of this but uh here we are instead and this is what happens when you when you
00:25:21.620 get this uh you know uh laziness when we allow these kinds of standards to slip and it's like
00:25:26.560 oh it's just that guy we'll just beat him up just yeah who cares who cares whatever
00:25:30.720 you know yeah and and really like just to kind of like hand wave hand wave it all away of like oh
00:25:39.080 well he's probably got ptsd and he's probably crazy and it's like are you kidding me like the
00:25:44.260 amount of rants that you've done um and and not even just rants but just like you know pat in
00:25:49.420 compassion speeches there's too many to count man i was i was online i found one during the convoy
00:25:55.140 and you talked about how the the person being crushed with the police horse you were like this
00:25:58.800 is a stain on our national history i'm like i forgot about this one this is another great this
00:26:02.960 is another like classic uh jeremy speech and i hate to say it but you know this is a pattern that
00:26:09.360 we're seeing on controlled opposition whether we're talking about the official opposition or
00:26:13.300 whether we're now talking about the you know official right-wing media outlet this is another
00:26:18.140 thing that justin trudeau and the liberals do they crap on veterans in a very very gross
00:26:25.580 despicable way and it's it's it's sad to see uh rebel news doing that i'm hoping i'm hoping that
00:26:31.700 that that's just like a one-off i'm hoping that's not going to become a regular thing
00:26:35.100 um i'm hoping that they will try to champion any veteran in the future who is uh you know
00:26:40.560 like yourself speaking speaking speaking up against this authoritarianism and not only that
00:26:45.100 justifiably doing it because you are like target number one let's face it yeah well in saying that
00:26:50.980 too i've i've been saying this for a while i've got evidence anybody wants to see it i've been
00:26:55.160 targeted by the police since 2020 and 2021 before i was ever arrested i'd never been arrested in my
00:26:59.900 life and it happened about numerous times in the span of about six months but not eight months
00:27:04.200 something like that um and uh i lost that's okay i was gonna say um jeremy did a full reaction to
00:27:12.320 the entire uh rebel news uh story here and video oh whoops that's the wrong thing but uh there's a
00:27:19.440 link in the description to his stream and it should go right to the part where jeremy is reacting to
00:27:24.480 it it's a good watch so you can go and check that out to see his full reaction because there are
00:27:29.240 some other things that uh that we haven't brought up here that um that are no i i remember now sure
00:27:34.980 that's what it was like so again like they've targeted me for for it says right up for my
00:27:39.600 ideology they don't like what i'm saying i'm a person of interest to the rcmp in saskatchewan
00:27:44.460 why well probably because i released a video about the rcmp that had millions of views
00:27:48.120 criticizing them very aggressively for their many many many failings in a mass murder in nova
00:27:54.000 scotia where my family live have 30 minutes away uh from that did that did that cross rebel news
00:27:59.980 desk at any time no do you think that maybe could factor into my bad behavior like uh you're
00:28:05.660 misrepresenting me either on purpose or because you're lazy I don't appreciate it yeah yeah and
00:28:12.140 you know there is a part where Sheila Gunn-Reed says oh he's being targeted for criticizing Justin
00:28:17.160 Trudeau and it's like I don't think that's entirely correct because as you just mentioned
00:28:21.440 it was after you were criticizing the RCMP aggressively and had a viral video right after
00:28:26.220 the Nova Scotia shooting largest shooting in the Canadian history by the way most deadly one and
00:28:31.520 then that's when you have allegedly some some evidence that that is when the uh the police or
00:28:36.940 the rcmp started to you're a person of interest you can it's on my subset i can go read it for
00:28:42.700 yourself if you like it's scan pages i got it all i got i got lots i got a lot of this this has been
00:28:47.400 going on for a while and again it's going to come out it's awesome it's really bad it's really really
00:28:51.560 bad guys it's however bad you think the corruption and the and the political uh lean you know
00:28:57.360 leanings are in the rcmp it's much worse than you would dare imagine it's worse than even i
00:29:03.180 and i'm very cynical you know it's worse than even i could i would believe it's it's like the
00:29:07.900 twitter files and it's like we're seeing what we're seeing from a project veritas right it's
00:29:11.740 like yeah all the worst conspiracy theories you thought are pretty well accurate yeah and um yes
00:29:18.540 speaking speaking of that project veritas doing incredible work uh as journalists and you know i
00:29:25.000 was at the trucker convoy doing interviews apparently i'm a journalist now and you yourself
00:29:28.580 this is another really relevant one let me just bring this up on screen here i don't have i don't
00:29:33.120 have a good version of it unfortunately but uh there were text messages that were leaked uh during
00:29:40.220 the convoy and uh they were leaked by yourself because most important part here because somebody
00:29:47.860 within the rcmp or police forces trusted you enough with the information to leak the information
00:29:52.980 they they liked your character i guess they could say they didn't think you were some crazy ptsd
00:29:57.980 drunk person obviously and that's why they trusted uh these text messages with with yourself
00:30:04.420 and you know what rebel took these and put their own watermark on them as well uh didn't seem to
00:30:11.000 want to care where they came from how anybody got them they just kind of you know ran with that
00:30:14.900 and you know uh someone else would say like i i you know i'm taking i'm gonna take the heat for
00:30:20.820 this you know um and i have and uh i'm fine with it i didn't you know it didn't really play into
00:30:26.420 my mind it's just this is people need to see this so so so out it goes the least you can do is at
00:30:31.360 least acknowledge at least acknowledge what uh what the what the facts of the situation is i
00:30:35.700 mean there's a lot of reasons the police uh don't don't like me and that story buried gone deleted
00:30:41.000 uh never heard from again because all the heroes in the rcmp that where did that even go i think
00:30:46.100 they released a quick statement saying oh we're gonna walk into it and then uh that was the end
00:30:50.120 of that so not only did they trample beat abuse and violently you know um come on to a bunch of
00:30:55.940 protesters women old women a disabled woman in a mobility scooter was trampled by a Clydesdale
00:31:00.580 horse they sell as you can see they celebrated it they had a great time they thought it was
00:31:03.620 amazing and they couldn't wait to do it again that should have been the biggest story of the
00:31:07.440 week in Canada instead it uh you know was swept under the rug and ignored and we're just going to
00:31:12.620 move on to move on to other things yeah i think there's a lot more to to the conversation when it
00:31:21.120 comes to rebel news and again like we don't want to be too hard on them here because let's face it
00:31:24.700 they do do a lot of good work out there but um like i said we were guided by self-respect and
00:31:30.820 truth on this show and it's like you know when jeremy's being thrown under the bus and they're
00:31:35.460 also kind of implying all sorts of horrible things about him and how dare a veteran you know how like
00:31:40.420 you know being passionate and speak up it's like it's really it's really gross man like we gotta
00:31:43.840 got we gotta call we gotta clock them on that obviously and uh we will play one more clip here
00:31:48.680 uh from the sheila gun read piece uh it's a really short one but she's listing off all of your
00:31:54.060 hey let me go into detail about all of your arrests and all of your charges but this one
00:31:57.980 just so you remember this one if you don't remember this guy sucks and here's why yeah
00:32:02.080 yeah this one in particular though we should talk about it's a short clip
00:32:05.120 Mackenzie's been charged with harassment and intimidation of Nova Scotia's chief medical
00:32:10.800 health officer after a protest outside of the CMOH's home. So yeah there's a lot more to that
00:32:19.980 story than you just kind of being arrested or intimidated. You were at a protest because
00:32:25.340 if I'm not mistaken the mask mandates were going to be taken away on most for most kids across the
00:32:31.780 country in schools but nova scotia at the last minute the chief medical officer there maybe i'm
00:32:37.280 getting this wrong was like no we're going to keep the mask mandates for kids so then yourself
00:32:40.980 morgan may uh another freedom fighter your uh girlfriend uh was there at this protest and uh
00:32:48.120 if i'm not mistaken the rcmp was there monitoring the protest and then the the protest dispersed
00:32:54.180 obviously if the rcmp is monitoring it it's obviously a fine and safe protest the the
00:32:59.120 protest disperses and then yourself and morgan may who are probably the most two popular people
00:33:04.920 there with like a platform online not only get arrested but get thrown in jail into um solitary
00:33:12.080 confinement for three days and then like kind of getting four days four days pardon me and then
00:33:17.700 get pressured with all of these um you know bail conditions like you can't you can't you won't get
00:33:22.500 bail unless you get uh ban yourself from the internet they they wanted that they wanted me
00:33:26.920 silenced they wanted me to have no access to the internet they wanted morgan and i separated they
00:33:30.560 wanted her to live at her parents home in new brunswick and me to stay here no contact with
00:33:34.860 each other it was insane uh and luckily again i had a good lawyer at the time who i told him i was
00:33:41.300 like this is what they're going to try to do and he's like he couldn't believe it and then he was
00:33:44.340 argued his way out of it because there's really no constitute charter reasons why uh these should
00:33:48.800 like you know anyway that's again they could have they could have got more to the story they could
00:33:53.520 have called they could have asked me and everyone just wants to take it at face value the rcmp were
00:33:56.960 there that they loved so much and they observed this this went on for days and we weren't arrested
00:34:01.340 even at the scene it was it was much later by a completely different um police force and and there
00:34:07.140 may be some severe levels of political involvement in that case it certainly seems to be potentially
00:34:12.140 maybe we'll so i note stay tuned for the reality show of law and order uh jeremy mckenzie i guess
00:34:17.880 There's going to be a lot of episodes of that coming up this year.
00:34:21.040 Boom, boom, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.
00:34:24.680 Boom, boom, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.
00:34:27.020 Boom.
00:34:28.200 Dude, I sleep.
00:34:29.260 I go to bed.
00:34:30.420 I don't care in the world.
00:34:32.540 I feel great about it.
00:34:33.840 I mean, it's stressful.
00:34:34.960 There's a lot of wild stuff going on to a degree.
00:34:37.440 But it's funny.
00:34:38.780 I like to laugh when people think, oh, man.
00:34:43.040 Dude, I'm golden.
00:34:43.860 but aside aside from that aside from your own personal uh you know what you're going through
00:34:50.000 it it should it should startle anybody because it's this is the authoritarianism that people
00:34:55.820 should be alarmed about we should be ringing the alarm bells hey these people are getting
00:35:00.140 thrown in jail for basically being at a protest and and because they're popular like this is the
00:35:05.360 authoritarianism behavior that i find terrifying that we've been warning people about for years
00:35:11.820 before this and now it is happening and we don't even have rebel news really reporting on it or
00:35:16.860 caring to like tell the crazy story and along with that well i am an odious dirtbag so i don't know
00:35:22.740 if you want to yeah i just it's funny to the psyche of the canadian part like
00:35:27.560 this so on the one hand agree like oh yes the government is very corrupt and they're lying
00:35:32.180 and they're all oh yeah they're bad all this stuff has happened and not not because it's me
00:35:36.820 but just as a thought experiment um imagine there's someone who's you know very very aggressively
00:35:42.620 coming after them and then the government says oh no there are all these bad things look at all
00:35:47.160 this stuff that they did does that seem no suspicion at all there's no level no part of you
00:35:54.320 going uh this is convenient you know i guess not you know that's up to canadians if they want to
00:36:00.280 decide for themselves if they think that um and they'll see it's all going to come out and they'll
00:36:04.900 see what happens but i don't know if it were me and and someone is uh so or i'll use a different
00:36:10.140 example if someone's someone's works at um at pfizer and then they quit pfizer and then they
00:36:15.180 become very outspoken against pfizer saying pfizer is doing a lot of really messed up stuff and then
00:36:19.640 pfizer says no no this person's crazy don't listen to them what do you what do you expect them to say
00:36:24.760 what do you think they would say come on they're crazy they're crazy of course and um again like
00:36:32.720 you know we're trying to connect the dots here on controlled opposition and we have as we pointed
00:36:36.960 out in past episodes Pierre Polyev of the Conservative Party of Canada does not seem to
00:36:41.180 be really focused on the authoritarianism problem from this Trudeau administration almost like once
00:36:47.880 they get in power maybe they'll be using the same tactics I don't know it's very worrisome and then
00:36:52.140 again we have rebel news in this case anyway only talking about certain pieces of the authoritarianism
00:36:59.020 when really in your example especially it is the most alarming case and arguably uh with morgan may
00:37:05.980 uh the phantom gas theft uh have we explained that yet i think no but that was that was before
00:37:12.620 i was again arrested another time and something else they don't seem to i we didn't even know
00:37:16.560 where she was for a whole day they just grabbed we got hit by another car the police showed up
00:37:21.760 and hauled her away and i'm like what for and they're like theft like theft wow what are you
00:37:26.680 saying and she was in jail for four days and there's no evidence of this we've seen no evidence
00:37:31.100 you know we tried to you know cooperate with the police they obviously they're not interested in
00:37:34.800 that they just want to and whatever but um speaking of that and the protest uh and rebel news somebody
00:37:40.980 mentioned in the chat there weren't you guys uh wasn't rebel news outside the premier of ontario's
00:37:45.820 house when there was a protest outside of his place doing essentially the exact same thing
00:37:50.420 that we were doing interesting it's a weird it's a weird take you know yeah yeah where's the
00:37:58.340 consistency there and it's it it is scary too because what if what if you weren't so charming
00:38:06.660 and attractive and had a popular podcast but seriously because if you if you did not have
00:38:12.120 the platform that you did have and it's just some you know upset veteran who's protesting getting
00:38:17.040 thrown in jail being the victim of all this authoritarian behavior then and if rebels not
00:38:21.620 talking about it no one would hear about it like the only reason that we're hearing about it is
00:38:25.540 because you know how to use a webcam and a microphone literally and again i don't i didn't
00:38:31.240 ask for any money i don't i don't ever expect help from people i do the things that i think i can
00:38:36.180 handle on my own and if i can't i don't do it because i don't think it's right to to drag people
00:38:40.600 along with you and be like oh i can do it because these people will cover me you can't assume that
00:38:44.460 and you don't you don't know that so i don't i don't ask and look for you know i'm just going
00:38:48.180 to do the things i do and you know i'll i'll suffer the consequences accordingly but i didn't
00:38:51.960 i didn't set up any of this uh the stuff people just wanted to to do it on their own i completely
00:38:56.020 lost uh my thought there what were you just saying a second ago uh i was saying that if you know if
00:39:00.960 you weren't so good at using it oh right right right yeah okay so so so the reason i recorded
00:39:06.040 the call and then i do that is because i'm very well aware and i as i've been mentioning and
00:39:10.920 warning people for years this kind of thing was going to start happening um i know a lot of other
00:39:17.240 people have reached out to me like dude this happened to me this happened to my dad's have
00:39:20.120 my brothers people i've donated fifty dollars to convoy they terminated my bank account i don't
00:39:23.440 know um they don't have a platform they would they go on their facebook page and upload a video and
00:39:28.180 their aunt puts a sad emoji like oh let's do that's horrible honey like that goes nowhere and
00:39:33.020 you just disappear into the void and no one ever sees you again and you know tyranny complete
00:39:37.000 there's another person's life destroyed that you'll never hear about well i'm like well not so
00:39:40.580 you've you've you've you've put the wrong marine you know what i mean like i've got uh i'm oh
00:39:46.800 really you want to do this it's going on the internet now um i should ask the guy if he had
00:39:51.140 anything he wanted to say since this is probably going to be heard by millions of people but you
00:39:55.000 know it worked out the way it was but but yeah it's not this isn't about me this is about everyone
00:39:59.120 that this is the this is the country you live in these are the things that are happening and if uh
00:40:04.260 when you know they get rid of me and i'm out of the way they're just going to go who's next on
00:40:08.460 the list who's who now when he's gone who do they go after next and then who's next and then who's
00:40:12.880 next and they'll just keep going until it gets to the stage where you're in the united kingdom
00:40:16.680 and you post something on facebook that the government doesn't like and they will find you
00:40:22.300 or maybe they'll put you in jail uh because they'll just be like well now everyone's you
00:40:26.120 can't do this you can't this is where it starts and it just work your way down and that's and
00:40:30.420 that's where you want to live yeah and that's already the case uh in some places in the uk
00:40:34.140 and other parts of europe where even posting a meme posting the wrong thing you can get
00:40:37.460 uh arrested and it's disgusting it's horrifying it's terrifying and that's exactly right you know
00:40:42.080 you are the canary in the coal mine in terms of being the most persecuted that we know of
00:40:46.380 probably uh you know you're you're funding a lot of uh you're you're getting you're paying a lot
00:40:51.840 of salaries for ceasus by the sounds of it in terms of how many people watch you all the time
00:40:56.860 them the anti-hate network i think receives substantial funding uh there's there's an
00:41:01.760 entire cottage industry around hating me yeah that says a lot more about about the situation
00:41:10.420 than anything you know and and and the point is too is that like you said you know like
00:41:14.980 they're targeting you right now and it's very terrifying that rebel news is going to quickly
00:41:21.100 kind of just i don't want to say assassinate your character but like they're not going to
00:41:26.300 stand strong with you they're not standing strong with you and it's like okay so if they're gonna
00:41:31.160 throw jeremy under the bus who else are they going to throw under the bus the next dissident
00:41:34.840 who is inconvenient for them like that like that that is really why it scares me because i would
00:41:39.940 hope i would hope what's that they they did it to chris guy i you were you were telling me about
00:41:47.840 this before and so can you tell this story it's not super related it was just an odd like it was
00:41:52.660 unnecessary like it was at the time he was doing his thing and going around promoting his uh you
00:41:57.520 know his cause and you just say no and the whole thing and the lockdowns and they were like well
00:42:01.560 what about these facebook posts from six years ago like what does that have to do with it is that is
00:42:06.260 this really the time is this really the time and does this need to happen right now is this is this
00:42:10.920 the point uh and just like much like you saw in that video like is any of this really what is this
00:42:16.280 what really people need to hear about right now or is this why we came here is this what no it's not
00:42:20.780 but um yeah uh no we have the story here so uh chris sky storms out of interview with david mendez
00:42:29.400 and i i won't say stormed out but i wouldn't i won't play the video but it says chris sky
00:42:34.980 fights with rebel news over anti-semitism so uh we'll have to go back to look at that one but
00:42:40.340 essentially you're saying that uh instead of standing with chris sky and kind of being like
00:42:45.660 hey like you're you're doing your your dissident thing about all these rules it was like hey look
00:42:49.440 of these tweets from from however many years ago right oh which it it doesn't it so his whole thing
00:42:55.800 was he's talking about human rights and and the and the lockdowns and the masking and the shit
00:42:59.600 like right that this is the issue that's what he's here to talk about and that's what's going on
00:43:03.200 and so so what like what if he so let's say he is let's pretend i don't think chris is but let's
00:43:10.040 say he is say he's a he's a holocaust denier he's a full-on neo-nazi he's got a swastika tattoo on
00:43:15.460 his face you know um does that make anything that he's saying and doing is anything else is is he
00:43:21.880 incorrect how about what he's saying like it's it's gonna be it's gonna be a tougher it's gonna
00:43:26.760 be a tougher sell for sure well sure but it's like why why is this right why are you bringing
00:43:32.180 this in it doesn't i just don't see the value in that it's really you know yeah uh we got a super
00:43:37.860 chat from jack lean 20 thank you so much appreciate it she says rebel knowingly misled their audience
00:43:44.540 to believe their donations were going to help the four coots boys and help a municipal politician
00:43:50.740 with the mischief charge instead they are fraudsters so i think i did see this actually
00:43:56.160 because it it appeared to be hey like we're we're raising money for the coots guys and it wasn't
00:44:02.720 actually the four people who are in jail in coots it was a few it was a politician and a couple
00:44:07.460 others who had mischief charges yeah did you there's been a lot of there has been a lot of
00:44:12.060 accusations of that i don't know anything other than that so i can't really again i'm just
00:44:15.720 speculating but i have heard stories of a lot of people saying hey they said they would help me
00:44:19.980 out with this and they didn't um and i've you know noticed that they're they're uh you know i i've
00:44:25.940 had to i'm on the mailing list i guess for their their website and everything and they do often
00:44:30.060 ask for money for things that have yet even to happen you know we we're gonna we need money for
00:44:34.200 legal fees because we might get sued things like this uh you know it just puts a bad taste in
00:44:38.520 people's mouth yeah i i was talking to people before doing this show and there was a couple
00:44:42.900 of criticisms which were like you know they do all these fundraiser fundraiser fundraiser fundraiser
00:44:47.320 and there's not really any transparency in regards to like well how much money are you raising where
00:44:51.440 is that money going towards and like it is a little bit hypocritical when we're hey we're here
00:44:55.500 to criticize justin trudeau they talk about justin trudeau where's the accountability where's the
00:44:59.400 transparency and it's like well it'd be good to see where you know some transparency with you guys
00:45:03.860 because of so many people and this is important so many people are afraid of what's happening in
00:45:09.740 this country you know they're they're desperate they want an answer do i support pierre do i
00:45:13.500 support maxime do i support roman babbert do i support rebel and rebel is very good at you know
00:45:18.600 getting people excited and saying send us the money and we are going to save the country and
00:45:22.360 i mean i hope i hope so i i hope that's correct but it's it's also in a very cynical perspective
00:45:30.180 on it it it the cynical take would be it seems like maybe they're kind of taking advantage of
00:45:35.900 people's desperation and profiting off of it and that's one perspective that's one perspective
00:45:43.420 and i think that's you know when you think of it as a business as well it actually would make
00:45:49.380 perfect sense for them to you to for them to go after you because like we were saying earlier
00:45:54.460 you have a popular podcast you are somebody who does oppose the trudeau regime and you actually
00:46:00.540 have kind of like the stars and stripes to prove it with all of your trips to jail that are
00:46:04.780 unjustified right and um you know maybe that's why hey maybe that's why we shouldn't give this
00:46:10.580 guy air time because maybe people will find his podcast and find his website and then they'll be
00:46:14.280 like oh i kind of like this guy's takes better on politics than uh than uh what i'm seeing at
00:46:19.160 rebelnews.com so so i'm just thinking like you know not not to again we're not here to like try
00:46:23.180 and accuse anybody of like oh like you know any sort of nefarious plans i'm just thinking from a
00:46:27.480 business standpoint there is kind of a logical kind of progression of why that would make sense
00:46:32.260 from a business standpoint i i can appreciate that i mean they've got a business around they've got
00:46:36.260 employees and all that kind of that kind of stuff but they're not a t-shirt company you know all of
00:46:41.480 all these meat like your your goal and and you know they're a media company well are they making
00:46:45.300 kids shows these are serious issues that affect people's lives and if you're not if your primary
00:46:50.720 focus is money if then that is your god now and you will go where the money goes and the money
00:46:55.820 goes where the money wants to go it doesn't go which way is right or wrong it's just where the
00:46:59.720 money is and if you do that then you're now beholden to the money that's your master now
00:47:04.360 um and we've gotten away from operating on on the the you know if you make money great i'm happy for
00:47:09.900 you good for you but if you're going to abandon uh moral principles and and the core foundational
00:47:15.440 you know the ethical you know things that that make up uh who we are and why we're different
00:47:20.280 from the rest of the world and what makes this country what it is you're willing to abandon that
00:47:23.500 because oh it's just business i don't want to live in a business i want to live in a country i want to
00:47:28.260 live in a community that makes sense that values right and wrong that values transparency that
00:47:33.060 values people that you know uh you know leadership that that has the courage to stand for what's
00:47:37.900 right no matter you know what happens to them if it's going to be you know good for them or bad
00:47:41.220 for them that's what i want and and to to to be like i'm gonna shine a light on this but only
00:47:47.640 in so far as it makes me money uh that's i think you might be part of the problem there guy you
00:47:52.440 know yeah i think we got to play this because it just seems so relevant this is from steven
00:47:57.200 crowder i think last week of yeah yeah speaking of someone like that so we'll play a bit of this
00:48:02.300 big tech is in bed with big con the people you thought the people i thought were fighting for
00:48:10.980 you a lot of it has been a big con now i'm specifically avoiding naming names or going
00:48:18.780 after so that was the first kind of clip that he that he aired of saying hey there's people out
00:48:23.860 there that are not really for conservatism they're actually all about the money and they're in bed
00:48:29.100 with big tech and like the entire conservative party for example right and have you been seeing
00:48:35.340 how this has developed with steven crowder and the daily wire i followed a little bit of it yeah
00:48:39.840 i mean mike my commentary on it was because he says later on guys this isn't about money this
00:48:45.580 isn't about money and then i hear him on tim pool i hear him on all these other podcasts talking
00:48:50.440 like we're going through line by line of the contract how much money that's not enough money
00:48:54.720 i think it's a little bit about money seems to be a little bit about money but um like um again i
00:49:00.920 just keep i just use these examples because like all he talks about is the military that was my
00:49:04.840 whole life i don't have any other life experiences to go on i didn't play for a hockey team i didn't
00:49:08.900 run a business i was in the military so that's what i did um speaking of like those special
00:49:13.520 forces units and those guys they get paid a little more but they are not you know making
00:49:18.300 millions of dollars to to do in i mean things that are so difficult like these these jobs are
00:49:24.580 so demand so much of you if you're not there for the right reasons which is because i'm here to to
00:49:28.680 be a warrior for the nation and do whatever is required because i want to be at the elite top
00:49:32.100 level of of effectiveness and and engage the enemies of our country and destroy them then
00:49:36.540 you're in the wrong place because it's like no amount of money is going to make that you know
00:49:40.360 any better there are what are these guys making 150k maybe 120 and that's at the top end you know
00:49:46.400 to do that to be in like essentially delta force you know they're not you know why they do it
00:49:51.660 because that's who they are you know so if you make if it's about money they they quit and they
00:49:56.620 go join these mercenary companies who pay them four or five times that much money to sit around
00:50:00.340 and guard an embassy and do nothing and they get all fat and you know why is he doing that um and
00:50:05.420 Treat this the same way.
00:50:06.440 If that's your primary motive, again, if you can make money, good for you.
00:50:08.920 If that helps you, and then you can employ other people, you can whatever.
00:50:11.580 But the mission or the primary focus is what are you doing?
00:50:15.000 Are you telling the truth?
00:50:15.760 Are you opposing a regime?
00:50:17.080 Are you trying to shine some light on something?
00:50:18.760 Are you trying to push social issues or cultural change?
00:50:21.360 Then that's what you're doing.
00:50:23.200 The money is a side effect.
00:50:25.280 It's a byproduct.
00:50:26.080 It's secondary, tertiary, or it's way in the back.
00:50:28.560 It's not, well, I would, but what's in it for me and how much am I going to make?
00:50:33.380 that's why we're losing because we've lost that connection to our our moral framework like how
00:50:40.340 about this you know for all these people crowder shapiro if there is no money anymore starting
00:50:46.040 tomorrow are you still going to keep doing what you're doing would you keep showing up tomorrow
00:50:50.780 if you if you had to do this for free would you keep doing it probably not good question good
00:50:55.600 question and i would i i think this right every dollar i gone out the window i've got to pay banks
00:51:02.160 and lawyers and i'm i live in a wood pile greg yeah all the money that is sent to jeremy essentially
00:51:07.440 goes to his lawyer for those for those unaware and uh but but that's to say like you know that's
00:51:13.060 kind of a virtuous thing though because you are fighting the state with your words as hard as you
00:51:17.000 can so it it obviously isn't for the money because it's uh you know oh it's it's cost me
00:51:23.940 substantially more i've spent nearly two hundred thousand dollars and you know and not most of
00:51:29.120 that i didn't even have this is like right fundraising i'm taking money at all our all
00:51:32.780 investments all gone all it's all gone you know sell this gone coins gone you dip into the crypto
00:51:37.580 it's all gone um to just to just keep going and keep because i'm not i refuse to lose i'm a
00:51:43.100 stubborn son of a bitch so being a political dissident is not a good financial decision is
00:51:48.300 that what you're saying no if you're doing this for the money or or your health or your longevity
00:51:52.580 or your freedom uh you're gonna go to jail you're probably gonna get they might even try and kill
00:51:56.000 you. So I don't, I don't know. I don't, I don't, uh, you gotta be in it for the lulls. You gotta
00:52:00.320 be in it for the law and the means otherwise. Yeah. Yeah. And I think this topic we'll come
00:52:05.620 back to on an episode, but let's talk about it a bit more before we go here. We're going to wrap
00:52:10.420 it up soon, but, uh, you know, I think this has been a slow decay over the past few generations,
00:52:16.060 which is, you know, when you first start to say, okay, you know what, I'm going to do this for my
00:52:20.100 paycheck. Maybe, maybe I'm going to sell it a little bit of my country, but, and my values,
00:52:25.040 but i'm going to do it for this paycheck for this pay bump okay sure and that's probably happened
00:52:29.480 over the years but now when especially in the past few years it's like what do we got left in
00:52:35.220 terms of values what do we got left in terms of a country and and what is it for for for a hot tub
00:52:40.460 for for a nicer vacation really yeah i gotta gotta get some new pipes on my bike that pretty much
00:52:46.580 encapsulates the entire
00:52:48.820 compromising.
00:52:52.980 We've been making compromises
00:52:54.600 forever. And when you compromise,
00:52:57.960 I mean, sometimes it's a good
00:52:58.980 thing, it can be a bad thing, but you're giving
00:53:00.980 something away. You're lesser
00:53:02.860 than you were because you had to make some kind of compromise.
00:53:05.240 But there needs to be a point where
00:53:06.760 how much are you willing to
00:53:08.400 compromise? We've obviously compromised on
00:53:10.800 the pride flags and
00:53:12.580 now we're doing transgender story time
00:53:14.980 for four-year-olds and dildos and all that i mean where does it end and this and this happened
00:53:19.800 because one you know how did it happen not all at once it was one brick at a time um and then and
00:53:26.620 then maybe a lot more at once than it was but somebody made a compromise somebody said i will
00:53:32.140 i will relent i will kneel and back down and let this happen because uh you know i'm gonna get
00:53:36.600 money or there's gonna be something in it for me i need to get elected or this isn't popular or cbc
00:53:40.300 wants me to say that whatever it is and we've had generation after generation of weak men
00:53:44.840 compromising for their immediate interests they've sacrificed the future for the now
00:53:49.620 where they are how heroic of you guys to you know look out for the future so you know people like
00:53:54.860 me and you you know do we even have a chance you know this place has been getting cut up and sold
00:53:59.160 out since the 80s the 90s and then 9-11 and everything after that um you know people growing
00:54:04.480 up now they're in their early 20s they don't even know what's been taken away from them they don't
00:54:07.980 they don't even remember yeah what what we used to have that is now gone because people would
00:54:12.360 compromise and compromise and compromise with with awful awful people and now it's like i'm saying
00:54:19.360 enough is enough there's we're not going further than this i'm planting my feet right here in the
00:54:24.160 ground and this is as far as she goes fellas if anything i'm taking things back like well no you
00:54:28.860 can't do that i'm done being told what i need to compromise on and change this and change that
00:54:32.960 that's um it's not again it's not my fault that the entire landscape of so-called opposition in
00:54:39.120 this country that is supposed to be standing against this you know globalist march to global
00:54:43.580 terror you know enslavement here whatever you whatever you want to call it it's not my fault
00:54:48.580 that they haven't been couldn't be bothered to really make much of a defense or anything they
00:54:52.420 just rolled over and showed their belly um i'm doing the best i can and they'd rather boo and
00:54:56.920 hiss and you know that guy because i i'm gonna get attacked i'm all the enemy fire a lot of it
00:55:01.840 is coming in my direction and they want to be make sure i'm they're standing far away from me
00:55:05.660 i had people reach out and say uh stuff like people i've never heard from or people haven't
00:55:10.480 heard from in a long time especially and uh to feign concern you know i'll be like hey hey what's
00:55:16.300 going on are you okay like yeah i'm fine man you know this and that this is after you're debanking
00:55:20.840 just right this is after he's debanking people who have not talked to him in a long time
00:55:25.860 are reaching out all of a sudden and feigning and you're saying right and and be like oh
00:55:31.040 all the injustice of it all that that's not what they're concerned about their concern is and
00:55:35.020 they're more upset about this you brought this up more upset about the debanking than when i was
00:55:38.720 imprisoned because you know from their worldview it's on it's fairly unlikely i mean we're not
00:55:44.320 near that stage yet where the government's just going to come after you know small time and just
00:55:47.580 throw you in jail and this kind of thing but they might take your bank account so this made it more
00:55:51.640 scary like they can imagine that they can't imagine the rcmp coming to your house making a
00:55:56.360 bunch of shit up and throwing you in jail that just doesn't seem realistic to most people and
00:56:00.660 trust me it doesn't until it happens to you right but the bank account calling the bank calling on
00:56:05.400 the phone and saying we're terminating your bank account because well you know the new rules and
00:56:08.640 the new whatever that they can envision so this is this is purely out of self-interest this is out
00:56:13.660 of self-preservation not because of the moral reasons which is this shouldn't be happening
00:56:18.380 to anyone and these and people will be like oh well you know that's i can't be seen to support
00:56:22.880 you know in public because you know my image and all this kind of stuff it's more of the same and
00:56:27.620 it's like you're gonna kneel now you'll kneel later and you'll always kneel until you stop
00:56:32.360 doing it until you stand up and say i'm off my knees and i'm never going back down there
00:56:36.580 ever again for anyone until you start doing that and you don't compromise anymore you're always
00:56:41.780 going to keep doing it's it's the same thing as the mentality of i'm going to go to the gym but
00:56:45.760 i'm going to go tomorrow i'll start tomorrow and then tomorrow comes out i'll do it tomorrow and
00:56:49.300 i'll do it you just keep putting it off and in the meantime you're just getting fatter and closer
00:56:53.700 to death yeah it it is really disgusting i was i was pointing as i was pointing out to jeremy
00:56:59.040 before it's like people got so outraged over the debanking but it was crickets when it was the
00:57:04.820 thrown in jail two times for for a bunch of like unsubstantiated charges and i think so you know
00:57:10.520 to be fair to these people i think in their world do it's more realistic to get screwed over by like
00:57:15.620 a major bank or like bell media or something like this because they're used to getting screwed over
00:57:19.280 by these large corporations but it is it is troubling because i think it that is scary
00:57:24.240 because it does speak to the well what about me and my money now i care yeah so it's like okay so
00:57:29.160 we we've basically been completely disconnected from you know what this nation means what freedom
00:57:33.640 means and you know standing up for one another and honor that's all out the window now that it's
00:57:38.080 going to affect you know your down payment now okay now i care all of a sudden because it's
00:57:42.440 gonna affect me and my stuff yeah right it could you're right i i've compared again we're gonna
00:57:46.660 we're going three for three we're gonna knock another we're gonna do another war metaphor
00:57:49.720 it's like if you got i got hit by a sniper you know and i'm laying there bleeding like ah crap
00:57:54.540 and somebody comes over and instead of going first aid like well where are you standing
00:57:57.380 so i don't want to get shot where where exactly were you when this happened so it doesn't happen
00:58:01.940 to me like i'm bleeding like i yeah i know that but where were you you know it's yeah i would i
00:58:06.680 would like get you to a medic but like i don't want to be seen yeah with you because they might
00:58:11.760 shoot me i mean i said yeah but i don't i'm you know it's yeah we just crawl away i'll handle it
00:58:18.900 myself worm people just with just writhe away like you always do i don't need you we got to stand up
00:58:25.000 for one another in this country that's going to do it for us today though um thank you so much for
00:58:29.680 being on the show mr mckenzie and you know there's a lot of work to be done in this country let's face
00:58:34.500 it you know and and like you were saying before i like what you said which is we got to criticize
00:58:38.460 one another we got to hold each other accountable to be better and we got to be honest we and it's
00:58:43.080 going to be messy it's going to be uncomfortable but we got to do that any final words before we
00:58:46.980 leave the people tonight nope that's actually the same thing and i don't that's not um it may see
00:58:53.220 again we live in a society of rounded edges and smooth corners and chocolate cakes and high fives
00:58:57.860 and rainbows and everything there's always a happy ending and the good guys always win so
00:59:01.080 to criticize people and to kind of they don't like it anymore we have a very weak and soft society
00:59:05.920 And it's it's actually it's funny that they interpret this.
00:59:08.900 They're attacking me. They're doing this. I want them to be better.
00:59:12.000 I want our side to be unassailably good.
00:59:15.720 I want it to be so laser focused and so effective that it just, you know, destroys these people.
00:59:21.300 And we just wash them off the face of the earth.
00:59:23.180 And we can't do that if we can't honestly point at each other and go, well, this is this sucks what you did.
00:59:29.100 You need to do better than this. And they should be able to go.
00:59:31.780 you're right i i should and then you know we pick each other up and dust each other off and we go
00:59:36.640 back at it and we're better for it together as a team rather than this uh this nightmare show we're
00:59:42.300 all just pointing fingers at each other and stealing money from everybody while these uh
00:59:46.320 these monsters get away with uh get away with our future quite frank yeah and if you want to
00:59:50.860 support the show and support jeremy mckenzie you should go over to givesendgo.com mckenzie
00:59:57.020 uh big shout out to uh viva fry for starting this fundraiser you know david freiheit he is being
01:00:02.860 debanked the link is down in the description below so if you want to support the show then
01:00:06.000 please forward that money on to uh to this fundraiser and yes salutes oh sevens to uh viva
01:00:12.120 fry thank you so much sir and with that we are gonna get out of here um and as we always say
01:00:17.680 on the show it is okay to demand higher standards see you guys cheers
01:00:27.020 Thank you.