Can we trust Rebel News？ ｜ Controlled Op 04
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Summary
Jeremy McKenzie is a Canadian veteran and political podcaster who was debanked last week. Jeremy is the canary in the coal mine when it comes to the slow creep of authoritarianism in this country. And it was very disappointing to see Rebel News imply that he s mentally ill, that he's an alcoholic, and that he needs help.
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Jeremy McKenzie is a Canadian veteran and political podcaster who was debanked last week.
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Jeremy is the canary in the coal mine when it comes to the slow creep of authoritarianism
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And it was very disappointing to see Rebel News, the largest alternative right-wing media
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company in Canada, implying that he's mentally ill, that he's an alcoholic.
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And it's very uncomfortable to have this conversation, but we need to.
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The trucks parked outside illegally should move.
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Canada's Conservatives will meet our Paris climate commitment.
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We haven't yet decided whether we're going to call for the government to impose a mandatory test or vaccination.
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Canada must not ignore the reality of climate change.
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Why weren't Canadians vaccinated in January and February like everyone else?
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ladies and gentlemen welcome to controlled opposition episode four with me is a very
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special guest tonight i like to call him the number one political dissident in canada and
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he seems to be living up to that reputation being the most banned man the bankless man now
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ladies and gentlemen the one and only jeremy mckenzie how are you doing tonight sir i never
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liked a bank anyway who needs him who needs him thanks rick how are you i well i'm doing better
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than you i can say that much um sure that's what you think it was very inspiring to see that people
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uh really right after the announcement of you being debanked it was going viral the next day
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you had uh viva fry tweeting about it um and viva fry even started a a fundraiser for you which is
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very gracious of him and i let the link for that in the description below if you want to support
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jammy or support the show then then go on down to that link which is givesango.com
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slash mckenzie um but uh yeah i also sent out a tweet earlier in the week which was hey rebel news
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hey jordan b peterson hey true north center i really hope you're going to talk about this
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because this is like we're seeing the slow creep of authoritarianism happen in this country and
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um obviously you've kind of gone through the gamut over over the past year here but when it
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comes to the show controlled opposition i knew we were going to get into this topic eventually
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i didn't realize it was going to be happening so soon and that topic of course is the uh the
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journalism like i started off the show we started off the show saying you know i'm kind of tired
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talking about justin trude all the time okay because there's a lot of valid criticism for
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pierre paulieva the conservative party and it's the same thing with the media i'm kind of tired
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of talking about toronto star all the time or cbc all the time because of course there's a lot of
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ridicule and criticism that we can direct towards CBC and Toronto Star. But there are alternative
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right-wing outlets that are also worthy of criticism. And I thought after seeing the way
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Rebel News kind of reported on your story, it's time to talk about this. I know you're somebody
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who likes to really be a leader, be strong in the face of horrible things. But how did it make you
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feel, honestly, when you saw this kind of reaction or this kind of reporting from Rebel News on you
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being debanks um i was uh i was surprised they covered it at all actually because as as you're
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aware and many other people are aware they have a pretty good track record of um pretending that
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i don't exist um i assume that that's probably uh how they were going to go with it um i watched
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the clip and i was really surprised at the lack of professionalism at the pettiness at the kind of
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you know off-handed jet like this was just seemed like a reason to like um we're just gonna attack
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this guy and shit on him and then and then basically like yeah just send us money it was
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it was kind of a throwaway like there was over there and again i don't care i'm i've been through
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a lot right but i i imagine if i'm not me if someone else to be you know to to be treated
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like that and talked about in that way and the stigmatization of veterans and stuff and just a
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lot of really really really no zero thought very lazy put into this and things that were said and
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it's just uh you know like you're saying earlier it's it's you know one thing to go on about the
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you know the liberal party of canada we can do that all day but what they're not going to do or
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care anything you know they don't care what we say and we have a lot more power potentially in
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in trying to police our own our own ranks as it were and i think that's something that should be
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done i don't i don't think that um i don't really like this idea where people are you know don't
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attack your own we need to have better standards we we can't allow you know things like this need
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to be need to be addressed and i would have said the exact same thing if it was about anyone else
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not just because it was me yeah no absolutely um and and we'll get into the very first clip right
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now i was i was shocked when i saw this and yeah we'll just play this right now far now to be clear
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i don't personally know him whatsoever at all and what i do know about him i'm frankly not
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all that impressed with i think he's a deeply troubled character who doesn't do himself or
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the people around him any real favors and because of that he is in an absolute world of hurt and
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trouble but none of that changes the fact that mckenzie should be able to use a bank in this
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country the way convicted terrorists and rapists can use them and he's been ordered to stay away
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from booze and i think that's probably a really great idea domestic assault rape child sex
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offenses and still use a bank in this country you can even be an outspoken vulgar crass individual
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with mental health and addiction struggles and still use a bank account in this country
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like they don't exactly make you sound good here um at all whatsoever they're they're associating
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you know rapists and criminals like right with your name it reminds me of when we first started
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were run for the people's party in 2019 and uh another candidate there had a story that their
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name was in this article right next to this guy with like a swistika tattoo on his chest and it's
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like just like putting those two things together in a news article really doesn't make you look
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good you know it's deliberate yeah it's and and that's the thing like it's to say to say that
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there isn't any sort of like knowledge of of what they're doing it's like uh it's it's hard to say
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and i guess we should have a disclaimer like you know we're not saying that oh my god rebel news
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has controlled opposition we are here to have this conversation and to simply be critical of
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journalism just like we would be critical of journalism on the other side of the aisle or
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critical of journalism from legacy media to not criticize people on your side like so i'll use
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this example from my time in the military and the special forces specifically they would never ever
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tell you they would never come down and patch in the back and say you're doing a good job or
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anything like that's just not how they operate they would look for everything they were doing
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you were doing wrong and criticize you on absolutely everything that you were doing wrong
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so you could eventually you're as perfect as you can possibly be um to just accept ah good enough
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was never a part of the lexicon it was always like nope do it again do it again you suck at this and
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you suck at that you should be doing it for the purpose of rounding out your abilities and your
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skills so that overall everything because there's no if you're doing something very well there's no
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need to address that because that is running optimally there's nothing nothing to be done
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about that everything's running exactly the way it should carry on you know there's no reason to
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spend any time there so you go around looking for you know the weeds in the garden as it were to
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pull them out or you know fix the problem so when you see something like that it's it's like to not
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address it and not say something about it does everyone a disservice yeah yeah and it's um i mean
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i was gonna say this in the intro like you know number one uh dissident in canada you could also
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say you are one of the number one rebels in this country in in terms of being outspoken and it
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really pains me and anyone who's a fan of you it really pains me to see to see you characterized
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like this because it's not like you went viral once or you had like one kind of nice speech here
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or there like you have been doing this for years now and you're making a living off of it and quite
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frankly we're going to talk about this later you are kind of a competitor to rebel news when it
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comes to uh you know podcasts specifically you broadcast on an on week like over nine hours a
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week and your podcast if i'm not mistaken is already back in the top 50 of uh apple podcasts
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canadian political news uh downloads congratulations congratulations by the way oh thank you after
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taking a couple of months off i went to have a vacation i was just tired and i wanted some me
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time so you know i was like all right i'll go to i'll go to prison for a couple yeah he's he went
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to jail folks he's kidding he is his uh vacation was uh the saskatoon correctional facility really
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great food really great accommodation and um i'd also like to uh i'd also like to point out that i
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am definitely not in a a world of hurt i don't know who got that impression do you have that
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does anyone else am i giving anyone the impression that i'm like really struggling and suffering over
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here uh well that's that's definitely not the case so i don't want anybody to get that idea
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and what bothered me about that is the implication which is you know well he's that he is saying all
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these things and like that's why this is happening to him like there was kind of an implication of
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that in the way it was framed you know which which i really don't like because let's face it
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when when they attack rebel news for various reasons it's because they are so innocent and
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valiant and they're so truthful and they're the best and they're the best and it's like i tend to
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agree you know what i mean like you are doing the news you're trying to do your thing and like
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especially because you are somebody who wants to oppose the trudeau regime i'm going to stand by
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you rebel news i'm going to stand by you even though maybe there's some things that you've
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gotten wrong in the past which i'm i'm if i'm not mistaken there are like you know valid criticisms
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but because you are the one on the chopping block i'm going to stand by you so that's why it's really
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sad that when when you know you're getting attacked they're like sort of standing by you
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but like throwing mud all over your character yeah like come on i mean i and it's not uh it's
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not a show like i'm very confident in my position and i'm not i'm not worried i sleep fine at night
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because i know what i've done and what i haven't done i know what the situation is i know what's
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true and what isn't true um so it i'm a popular guy to hate right now and i have been for a while
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for a number of reasons because the the subjects and the targets of of my you know criticism and
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my words are are powerful people with with you know something to lose i don't sit here i don't
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you know i don't spend waste my time engaging in this facebook boomer gossip and back and this
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guy's a fan and that guy's i don't care about that we have monsters running this place literal you
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know real real live monsters uh that are preying upon the people of this country people i signed
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up to you know defend and protect and that's i mean why would i waste my time you know with this
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kind of stuff so obviously they're going to attack me and this this is what's going to happen and
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that's that's the real that's the main issue that's the cause it's like taking time out of
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a war because you know your neighbor parked his truck too close to your like who cares about that
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we've got bigger problems you know bigger problems that that's a that's exactly right
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there is so much lies incompetence and corruption happening in this country and of course we can
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talk all day about how trudeau's guilty of this and guilty of that but the whole reason we started
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the show is because well pierre polyev isn't doing that you know and and it's and you're right
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it it is does seem like a very petty thing to instead of focus on the lies um incompetence
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and corruption going on it's like well you know this veteran guy um he has like a whole bunch of
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these issues and like we're going to talk about all these issues and did you know he said this
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once and he made a joke about that the one time and it's like is that really something that's
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relevant and and we're gonna we're gonna talk later and bring that up because it's like you
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know this is actually feeling like cancel culture-y which in my opinion is what i do not like
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about the leftist establishment and it's it pains us to see it happening uh on the people who are
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supposed to be you know supporting us right and again it's like it's disappointing you see people
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that are all uh you know it's just it's again it's just because it's me it's like well there's
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all these accusations exactly they're accusations nothing's been proven i've never even been to
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court nothing's been proven anywhere nothing's even been tested and you're believing the word
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well who said this oh well the corrupt media and the corrupt rcmp oh well then that must be the end
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of the story she herself admitted at the opening she doesn't know me she's never talked to me that
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is accurate she's never even tried to either there was no inbox empty phone no missed calls
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i'm not hard to get a hold of it wouldn't have taken her very long and i certainly would have
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certainly would have taken the call replied to an email had they even bothered to ask for my
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perspective or comments or clarification on any of the number of wildly inaccurate things that she
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said but they chose not to do that um don't get mad at me you know i didn't tell you not i didn't
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tell you to show up and do a bad job at work today so and that's exactly it this again folks
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this isn't about like oh you know rebel news is this or that it's it's we are following we're
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following the truth really and the job for them is to do journalism and speaking of that we're
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going to play this next clip here um uh where yeah it's it speaks to not doing a great job as
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a journalist. Here it goes. Back to Jeremy McKenzie. Who is this guy? Well, according to
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the Liberals, he's a terrorist. He's the founder of Diagalon, which is, according to the Liberals,
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some sort of accelerationist terrorist group akin to Hamas. In reality, I think it's a joke about
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carving North America in half diagonally to keep the Liberals on one side and the freedom-minded
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people on the other. It's, I think, a flag company with a joke attached to it. Now, to be fair,
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not everybody knows the lore of uh diagonal on and but i do and you could have asked me
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this is true this is true and i mean while we're on the topic we obviously have to uh you've told
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me this uh in private before but i think it's a good time to bring it up which is you're talking
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about how they ignore your existence um and you know when the whole diagonal thing was happening
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the emergencies act diagonal for those who don't know uh diagonal on is a uh made up meme that
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jeremy made up while he was live streaming one night and it became a running joke and the point
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is is that uh you know the ccist the rcmp senators in the house of uh senators in the senate and then
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uh members of parliament in the house of commons started to use this word diagonal to associate
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essentially with your podcast community but instead of calling it a podcast community they're
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like this is a militia that wants to accelerate racial tensions and like all this insanity that
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is uh based on a bunch of lies essentially and this is a huge huge huge story okay this is our
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like the largest institutions in our country make like you running with this meme country idea and
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essentially using it to justify the use of the emergencies act this is a huge story and then
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yeah that's that's exactly what happened and you know we had the uh you know these these
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these hack jobs these smear merchants these liners that the you know anti-hate network and
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their affiliates who are paid by the government to attack their their opposition people that they
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want to be uh you know attacked and smeared and have the reputations and and they laid out all
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this stuff and say all these wildly crazy that that are not uh not verified by anyone no no one's
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looked into any of this they just took it at face value and again yeah the story is you know you
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can think whatever you want about me or my friends or my you know whoever's supporters um when the
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people that are trusted to man the walls at night and protect you and your family and keep this
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country safe from things like uh you know terrorism when they can't tell the difference
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between uh people on the internet you know having fun and talking trash and al-qaeda that is a
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serious problem that's that's embarrassing that if i saw this happening i'm sure they have you
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know if i'm in the american intelligence establishment or the british or something i
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would be no one talked to canada anymore they are a liability uh they're a joke or and that's the
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best case scenario that's better than the alternative which is they knew but they ran
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with it anyway because there's a political opportunity here and who cares whose lives
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we destroy in the process and very very probably there could be you know people sitting in jail in
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alberta for over a year now almost um because politics and it's which which scenario would
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you like it's one or the other because where's the no there's never been any proof that none of
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this to all the stuff that they said oh you're going to all the they're out there they created
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they enacted a martial law basically the emergency measures act formerly the war measures act
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to stop this problem and and my you know audience essentially was was used as justification
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for this and then since then nothing has happened where if this was such a impending doom problem
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where are the arrests where are the weapon caches where's the leaders where is any of it
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nothing happened because it never existed and now they're running around with their tails when
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they're like so again rebel was aware of this story i talked to them about it they were like
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what in the name of god they blew their minds and then we worked on this story for 10 days or so
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and on a tuesday morning it was supposed to be you know i was gonna you know uh remotely obviously
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we're gonna do an interview and and um that didn't happen because the evening prior right before
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there's a gas something came up last minute and i never heard from them again um so they they're
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they're well aware and again they could have asked they could have called they chose not to
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um so and then it's strange that after being in touch with you for over 10 days and wanting to do
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a story with you and knowing all of the at least somebody at rebel news knowing all of the lore
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about um about diagonal and about how it connects to the emergencies act and all of the very very
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troubling implications of this and how you are sort of being picked on which is an understatement
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really uh by you know the major establishments in this country the fact that they would that at
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least someone at rebel news would know all this and then turn around and kind of just call you
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all these names essentially and associate you with like some of the worst of the worst uh kind
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of criminals it's it's really disgusting you know my again i i don't know i i don't haven't talked
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to anybody in there obviously no one from rebels talked to me i can only speculate i i'm my guess
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My gut feeling is they are, you know, chagrined or reluctant to say anything supportive or positive in my direction.
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Well, lately, because of the the peeps, you know, situation, they don't want to upset those people in that camp.
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And prior to that, I've always I've been an outspoken critic of the Israeli government as well.
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And they're obviously very pro, you know, Israel over there and rebel.
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And so I think that's probably for those two reasons.
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That shouldn't be something that happens in Canada,
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A lot of people seem to think that for good reason,
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and I've not received any suggestions to the contrary.
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They mailed me their letter with their explanation,
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and it said nothing i didn't even have a name of anyone to contact it just said we're terminating
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your accounts you have 30 days goodbye um and that was it so that's the story and instead it turned
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into preface this into how much this guy is a piece of trash and like you mentioned earlier
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i've done a lot of things over the last five or six years and you chose to focus in on this
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you know you chose to you zoom in on the fly in the ointment he's been arrested a lot of times
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geez over the last few years no it was a couple of times in a span of about six months all relating
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to well i can't really get into it but uh you'll see you'll all see there's not enough crows in
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this country that are going to be needed to be cooked up fried and fed for everybody to eat by
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the time this is all over but um again we'll i'll see you when we get there because we're going to
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get there yeah and and folks like we don't beat around the bush on this show you know it when it
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comes to the world of politics it's about power and it's about money and and you know there there
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are political parties that are that are vying for that seat pp and the conservative party of canada
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is vying for that seat and i'm sure they have a lot of big donors i'm sure that rebel has a lot
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of big donors and i would not be surprised if some of these donors know each other like and
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they don't like me and uh you know the case in point is rebel news doesn't really criticize
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pierre poly have like ever do they i and that's another thing in the comments or in the chat like
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if if rebel news has criticized pierre poly have please let me know let me know what what to look
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for what to search for because i would love to see it and my you know take on it is is their
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business model is essentially conservative outrage they they target things that what what
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makes conservatives angry and pissed off and oh my god that's what they do it's not really that
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that's that's what they do uh they're not really i've never seen them cover or say anything critical
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of of anyone in the conservative party ever to be honest it's basic but i mean we've been living
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under this regime for so long and and i don't i don't really remember the harper years that well
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so i can't go back that far but um you know that's it and on my end i i'll go after anybody
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because i just basically just trying to live my life i see something that's untrue or upsetting
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or disturbing or whatever you don't get a free pass because you have a blue tie on that's not
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how this works that's what they do that's what the other side does right we have a moral foundation
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here and we care about the truth and we care about right and wrong and i'm not going to turn a blind
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eye to something that's messed up because some rich guy is going to be upset about his panties
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are going to get twisted up that's not who i am and that's never what i'm going to be so if that's
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what they want to do i don't know i'm just speculating but again you know they have their
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game i'm playing mine i didn't ask to be included they came and decided they were going to do this
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and they didn't even ask my opinion so that's why we're here and that's why we got to have this
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conversation guys it's about it's about the truth it's about having a you know self-respect really
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because uh you know they're they're disrespecting our friend jeremy for those just tuning in you
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know rebel news they don't even call you by name just they call you a controversial canadian vet
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right uh which which is really upsetting because it does remind me sorry to say it does remind me
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of the way in which they did this to james top they didn't say hey james top you know very
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decorated veteran marching across the entire country the legacy media said oh some disgraced
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veteran who's like criticizing the vax mandate yeah it's like it's it's really truly dishonest
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because i couldn't even find this because i was using i was using your name and i couldn't even
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find this article and and disgrace to whom because everyone i know in in the veteran community is in
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awe of that man and i i don't care if they stripped him down to private and and kicked him out of the
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military he'll always he'll always be back to jerry mackenzie who is this guy stop to me and
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everybody else that knows what uh knows what he's done sorry about that um yeah and i mean speaking
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of that uh maybe we'll just play this actually this next clip here clip number four because she
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does she does say something that's that's really speaking of veterans you know i'm gonna try not
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to get upset just breathe just breathe okay i'm gonna play it here and i'm going to take a pretty
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even-handed approach here because mckenzie is a canadian veteran and i think he's dealing with
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some of the psychological fallout and trauma related to serving for 13 or 14 years and i think
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that's why mckenzie does many of the things he does and says many of the things he says
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i don't know if mckenzie's sober now but i think alcohol played a big role in some of his bad
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behavior frankly much of his bad behavior i mean that's really disgraceful because because to me
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if there's anyone who has a right to speak out if there's anybody who has more of a right than
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anyone to voice their righteously anger angry opinion it's someone like yourself it's someone
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who's already served this country and has lost uh brothers overseas fighting for what this country
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is supposed to represent and i mean i'm sure you have yeah well yeah it's not even so much as
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i mean i don't i don't feel like i deserve i feel like i have to i feel like it's my my duty to to
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alert people to things i think are wrong and messed up it's what we that's why we why were
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you in the military it's like well i'm here to you know for the protect the gang you know home
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team and so on. And that's what we're continuing to do here. And to say that, to perpetuate
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the stigmatization of veterans that like, oh, there's a veteran over here who's
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yelling about something. He must be mentally ill. I mean, do I have to say it? I don't think
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anybody really needs me to elaborate. I think they know exactly where I'm going with this.
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That's disgusting. I mean, that's just flat out disgusting. And number two, are you a doctor?
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you've diagnosed oh i must be mentally ill and furthermore this is the cause uh this is the
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method this is the pathology now we're gonna get of all of the things that i say and do is because
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of this oh and probably also i'm i'm probably drunk too for everything that i say it was a gag
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you know a lot of this uh you know jim lahey was famously you know drunk all the time the guy didn't
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even drink you know um again they could have called we could have talked about this they could
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have explained a lot of this but uh here we are instead and this is what happens when you when you
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get this uh you know uh laziness when we allow these kinds of standards to slip and it's like
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oh it's just that guy we'll just beat him up just yeah who cares who cares whatever
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you know yeah and and really like just to kind of like hand wave hand wave it all away of like oh
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well he's probably got ptsd and he's probably crazy and it's like are you kidding me like the
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amount of rants that you've done um and and not even just rants but just like you know pat in
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compassion speeches there's too many to count man i was i was online i found one during the convoy
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and you talked about how the the person being crushed with the police horse you were like this
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is a stain on our national history i'm like i forgot about this one this is another great this
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is another like classic uh jeremy speech and i hate to say it but you know this is a pattern that
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we're seeing on controlled opposition whether we're talking about the official opposition or
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whether we're now talking about the you know official right-wing media outlet this is another
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thing that justin trudeau and the liberals do they crap on veterans in a very very gross
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despicable way and it's it's it's sad to see uh rebel news doing that i'm hoping i'm hoping that
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that that's just like a one-off i'm hoping that's not going to become a regular thing
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um i'm hoping that they will try to champion any veteran in the future who is uh you know
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like yourself speaking speaking speaking up against this authoritarianism and not only that
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justifiably doing it because you are like target number one let's face it yeah well in saying that
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too i've i've been saying this for a while i've got evidence anybody wants to see it i've been
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targeted by the police since 2020 and 2021 before i was ever arrested i'd never been arrested in my
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life and it happened about numerous times in the span of about six months but not eight months
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something like that um and uh i lost that's okay i was gonna say um jeremy did a full reaction to
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the entire uh rebel news uh story here and video oh whoops that's the wrong thing but uh there's a
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link in the description to his stream and it should go right to the part where jeremy is reacting to
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it it's a good watch so you can go and check that out to see his full reaction because there are
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some other things that uh that we haven't brought up here that um that are no i i remember now sure
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that's what it was like so again like they've targeted me for for it says right up for my
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ideology they don't like what i'm saying i'm a person of interest to the rcmp in saskatchewan
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why well probably because i released a video about the rcmp that had millions of views
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criticizing them very aggressively for their many many many failings in a mass murder in nova
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scotia where my family live have 30 minutes away uh from that did that did that cross rebel news
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desk at any time no do you think that maybe could factor into my bad behavior like uh you're
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misrepresenting me either on purpose or because you're lazy I don't appreciate it yeah yeah and
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you know there is a part where Sheila Gunn-Reed says oh he's being targeted for criticizing Justin
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Trudeau and it's like I don't think that's entirely correct because as you just mentioned
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it was after you were criticizing the RCMP aggressively and had a viral video right after
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the Nova Scotia shooting largest shooting in the Canadian history by the way most deadly one and
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then that's when you have allegedly some some evidence that that is when the uh the police or
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the rcmp started to you're a person of interest you can it's on my subset i can go read it for
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yourself if you like it's scan pages i got it all i got i got lots i got a lot of this this has been
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going on for a while and again it's going to come out it's awesome it's really bad it's really really
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bad guys it's however bad you think the corruption and the and the political uh lean you know
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leanings are in the rcmp it's much worse than you would dare imagine it's worse than even i
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and i'm very cynical you know it's worse than even i could i would believe it's it's like the
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twitter files and it's like we're seeing what we're seeing from a project veritas right it's
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like yeah all the worst conspiracy theories you thought are pretty well accurate yeah and um yes
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speaking speaking of that project veritas doing incredible work uh as journalists and you know i
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was at the trucker convoy doing interviews apparently i'm a journalist now and you yourself
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this is another really relevant one let me just bring this up on screen here i don't have i don't
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have a good version of it unfortunately but uh there were text messages that were leaked uh during
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the convoy and uh they were leaked by yourself because most important part here because somebody
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within the rcmp or police forces trusted you enough with the information to leak the information
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they they liked your character i guess they could say they didn't think you were some crazy ptsd
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drunk person obviously and that's why they trusted uh these text messages with with yourself
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and you know what rebel took these and put their own watermark on them as well uh didn't seem to
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want to care where they came from how anybody got them they just kind of you know ran with that
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and you know uh someone else would say like i i you know i'm taking i'm gonna take the heat for
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this you know um and i have and uh i'm fine with it i didn't you know it didn't really play into
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my mind it's just this is people need to see this so so so out it goes the least you can do is at
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least acknowledge at least acknowledge what uh what the what the facts of the situation is i
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mean there's a lot of reasons the police uh don't don't like me and that story buried gone deleted
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uh never heard from again because all the heroes in the rcmp that where did that even go i think
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they released a quick statement saying oh we're gonna walk into it and then uh that was the end
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of that so not only did they trample beat abuse and violently you know um come on to a bunch of
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protesters women old women a disabled woman in a mobility scooter was trampled by a Clydesdale
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horse they sell as you can see they celebrated it they had a great time they thought it was
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amazing and they couldn't wait to do it again that should have been the biggest story of the
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week in Canada instead it uh you know was swept under the rug and ignored and we're just going to
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move on to move on to other things yeah i think there's a lot more to to the conversation when it
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comes to rebel news and again like we don't want to be too hard on them here because let's face it
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they do do a lot of good work out there but um like i said we were guided by self-respect and
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truth on this show and it's like you know when jeremy's being thrown under the bus and they're
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also kind of implying all sorts of horrible things about him and how dare a veteran you know how like
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you know being passionate and speak up it's like it's really it's really gross man like we gotta
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got we gotta call we gotta clock them on that obviously and uh we will play one more clip here
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uh from the sheila gun read piece uh it's a really short one but she's listing off all of your
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hey let me go into detail about all of your arrests and all of your charges but this one
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just so you remember this one if you don't remember this guy sucks and here's why yeah
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yeah this one in particular though we should talk about it's a short clip
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Mackenzie's been charged with harassment and intimidation of Nova Scotia's chief medical
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health officer after a protest outside of the CMOH's home. So yeah there's a lot more to that
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story than you just kind of being arrested or intimidated. You were at a protest because
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if I'm not mistaken the mask mandates were going to be taken away on most for most kids across the
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country in schools but nova scotia at the last minute the chief medical officer there maybe i'm
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getting this wrong was like no we're going to keep the mask mandates for kids so then yourself
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morgan may uh another freedom fighter your uh girlfriend uh was there at this protest and uh
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if i'm not mistaken the rcmp was there monitoring the protest and then the the protest dispersed
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obviously if the rcmp is monitoring it it's obviously a fine and safe protest the the
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protest disperses and then yourself and morgan may who are probably the most two popular people
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there with like a platform online not only get arrested but get thrown in jail into um solitary
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confinement for three days and then like kind of getting four days four days pardon me and then
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get pressured with all of these um you know bail conditions like you can't you can't you won't get
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bail unless you get uh ban yourself from the internet they they wanted that they wanted me
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silenced they wanted me to have no access to the internet they wanted morgan and i separated they
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wanted her to live at her parents home in new brunswick and me to stay here no contact with
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each other it was insane uh and luckily again i had a good lawyer at the time who i told him i was
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like this is what they're going to try to do and he's like he couldn't believe it and then he was
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argued his way out of it because there's really no constitute charter reasons why uh these should
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like you know anyway that's again they could have they could have got more to the story they could
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have called they could have asked me and everyone just wants to take it at face value the rcmp were
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there that they loved so much and they observed this this went on for days and we weren't arrested
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even at the scene it was it was much later by a completely different um police force and and there
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may be some severe levels of political involvement in that case it certainly seems to be potentially
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maybe we'll so i note stay tuned for the reality show of law and order uh jeremy mckenzie i guess
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There's going to be a lot of episodes of that coming up this year.
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There's a lot of wild stuff going on to a degree.
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but aside aside from that aside from your own personal uh you know what you're going through
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it it should it should startle anybody because it's this is the authoritarianism that people
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should be alarmed about we should be ringing the alarm bells hey these people are getting
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thrown in jail for basically being at a protest and and because they're popular like this is the
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authoritarianism behavior that i find terrifying that we've been warning people about for years
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before this and now it is happening and we don't even have rebel news really reporting on it or
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caring to like tell the crazy story and along with that well i am an odious dirtbag so i don't know
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if you want to yeah i just it's funny to the psyche of the canadian part like
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this so on the one hand agree like oh yes the government is very corrupt and they're lying
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and they're all oh yeah they're bad all this stuff has happened and not not because it's me
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but just as a thought experiment um imagine there's someone who's you know very very aggressively
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coming after them and then the government says oh no there are all these bad things look at all
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this stuff that they did does that seem no suspicion at all there's no level no part of you
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going uh this is convenient you know i guess not you know that's up to canadians if they want to
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decide for themselves if they think that um and they'll see it's all going to come out and they'll
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see what happens but i don't know if it were me and and someone is uh so or i'll use a different
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example if someone's someone's works at um at pfizer and then they quit pfizer and then they
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become very outspoken against pfizer saying pfizer is doing a lot of really messed up stuff and then
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pfizer says no no this person's crazy don't listen to them what do you what do you expect them to say
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what do you think they would say come on they're crazy they're crazy of course and um again like
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you know we're trying to connect the dots here on controlled opposition and we have as we pointed
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out in past episodes Pierre Polyev of the Conservative Party of Canada does not seem to
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be really focused on the authoritarianism problem from this Trudeau administration almost like once
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they get in power maybe they'll be using the same tactics I don't know it's very worrisome and then
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again we have rebel news in this case anyway only talking about certain pieces of the authoritarianism
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when really in your example especially it is the most alarming case and arguably uh with morgan may
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uh the phantom gas theft uh have we explained that yet i think no but that was that was before
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i was again arrested another time and something else they don't seem to i we didn't even know
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where she was for a whole day they just grabbed we got hit by another car the police showed up
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and hauled her away and i'm like what for and they're like theft like theft wow what are you
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saying and she was in jail for four days and there's no evidence of this we've seen no evidence
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you know we tried to you know cooperate with the police they obviously they're not interested in
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that they just want to and whatever but um speaking of that and the protest uh and rebel news somebody
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mentioned in the chat there weren't you guys uh wasn't rebel news outside the premier of ontario's
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house when there was a protest outside of his place doing essentially the exact same thing
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that we were doing interesting it's a weird it's a weird take you know yeah yeah where's the
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consistency there and it's it it is scary too because what if what if you weren't so charming
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and attractive and had a popular podcast but seriously because if you if you did not have
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the platform that you did have and it's just some you know upset veteran who's protesting getting
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thrown in jail being the victim of all this authoritarian behavior then and if rebels not
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talking about it no one would hear about it like the only reason that we're hearing about it is
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because you know how to use a webcam and a microphone literally and again i don't i didn't
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ask for any money i don't i don't ever expect help from people i do the things that i think i can
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handle on my own and if i can't i don't do it because i don't think it's right to to drag people
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along with you and be like oh i can do it because these people will cover me you can't assume that
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and you don't you don't know that so i don't i don't ask and look for you know i'm just going
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to do the things i do and you know i'll i'll suffer the consequences accordingly but i didn't
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i didn't set up any of this uh the stuff people just wanted to to do it on their own i completely
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lost uh my thought there what were you just saying a second ago uh i was saying that if you know if
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you weren't so good at using it oh right right right yeah okay so so so the reason i recorded
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the call and then i do that is because i'm very well aware and i as i've been mentioning and
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warning people for years this kind of thing was going to start happening um i know a lot of other
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people have reached out to me like dude this happened to me this happened to my dad's have
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my brothers people i've donated fifty dollars to convoy they terminated my bank account i don't
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know um they don't have a platform they would they go on their facebook page and upload a video and
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their aunt puts a sad emoji like oh let's do that's horrible honey like that goes nowhere and
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you just disappear into the void and no one ever sees you again and you know tyranny complete
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there's another person's life destroyed that you'll never hear about well i'm like well not so
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you've you've you've you've put the wrong marine you know what i mean like i've got uh i'm oh
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really you want to do this it's going on the internet now um i should ask the guy if he had
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anything he wanted to say since this is probably going to be heard by millions of people but you
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know it worked out the way it was but but yeah it's not this isn't about me this is about everyone
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that this is the this is the country you live in these are the things that are happening and if uh
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when you know they get rid of me and i'm out of the way they're just going to go who's next on
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the list who's who now when he's gone who do they go after next and then who's next and then who's
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next and they'll just keep going until it gets to the stage where you're in the united kingdom
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and you post something on facebook that the government doesn't like and they will find you
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or maybe they'll put you in jail uh because they'll just be like well now everyone's you
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can't do this you can't this is where it starts and it just work your way down and that's and
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that's where you want to live yeah and that's already the case uh in some places in the uk
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and other parts of europe where even posting a meme posting the wrong thing you can get
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uh arrested and it's disgusting it's horrifying it's terrifying and that's exactly right you know
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you are the canary in the coal mine in terms of being the most persecuted that we know of
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probably uh you know you're you're funding a lot of uh you're you're getting you're paying a lot
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of salaries for ceasus by the sounds of it in terms of how many people watch you all the time
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them the anti-hate network i think receives substantial funding uh there's there's an
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entire cottage industry around hating me yeah that says a lot more about about the situation
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than anything you know and and and the point is too is that like you said you know like
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they're targeting you right now and it's very terrifying that rebel news is going to quickly
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kind of just i don't want to say assassinate your character but like they're not going to
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stand strong with you they're not standing strong with you and it's like okay so if they're gonna
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throw jeremy under the bus who else are they going to throw under the bus the next dissident
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who is inconvenient for them like that like that that is really why it scares me because i would
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hope i would hope what's that they they did it to chris guy i you were you were telling me about
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this before and so can you tell this story it's not super related it was just an odd like it was
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unnecessary like it was at the time he was doing his thing and going around promoting his uh you
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know his cause and you just say no and the whole thing and the lockdowns and they were like well
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what about these facebook posts from six years ago like what does that have to do with it is that is
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this really the time is this really the time and does this need to happen right now is this is this
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the point uh and just like much like you saw in that video like is any of this really what is this
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what really people need to hear about right now or is this why we came here is this what no it's not
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but um yeah uh no we have the story here so uh chris sky storms out of interview with david mendez
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and i i won't say stormed out but i wouldn't i won't play the video but it says chris sky
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fights with rebel news over anti-semitism so uh we'll have to go back to look at that one but
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essentially you're saying that uh instead of standing with chris sky and kind of being like
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hey like you're you're doing your your dissident thing about all these rules it was like hey look
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of these tweets from from however many years ago right oh which it it doesn't it so his whole thing
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was he's talking about human rights and and the and the lockdowns and the masking and the shit
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like right that this is the issue that's what he's here to talk about and that's what's going on
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and so so what like what if he so let's say he is let's pretend i don't think chris is but let's
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say he is say he's a he's a holocaust denier he's a full-on neo-nazi he's got a swastika tattoo on
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his face you know um does that make anything that he's saying and doing is anything else is is he
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incorrect how about what he's saying like it's it's gonna be it's gonna be a tougher it's gonna
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be a tougher sell for sure well sure but it's like why why is this right why are you bringing
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this in it doesn't i just don't see the value in that it's really you know yeah uh we got a super
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chat from jack lean 20 thank you so much appreciate it she says rebel knowingly misled their audience
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to believe their donations were going to help the four coots boys and help a municipal politician
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with the mischief charge instead they are fraudsters so i think i did see this actually
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because it it appeared to be hey like we're we're raising money for the coots guys and it wasn't
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actually the four people who are in jail in coots it was a few it was a politician and a couple
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others who had mischief charges yeah did you there's been a lot of there has been a lot of
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accusations of that i don't know anything other than that so i can't really again i'm just
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speculating but i have heard stories of a lot of people saying hey they said they would help me
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out with this and they didn't um and i've you know noticed that they're they're uh you know i i've
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had to i'm on the mailing list i guess for their their website and everything and they do often
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ask for money for things that have yet even to happen you know we we're gonna we need money for
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legal fees because we might get sued things like this uh you know it just puts a bad taste in
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people's mouth yeah i i was talking to people before doing this show and there was a couple
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of criticisms which were like you know they do all these fundraiser fundraiser fundraiser fundraiser
00:44:47.320
and there's not really any transparency in regards to like well how much money are you raising where
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is that money going towards and like it is a little bit hypocritical when we're hey we're here
00:44:55.500
to criticize justin trudeau they talk about justin trudeau where's the accountability where's the
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transparency and it's like well it'd be good to see where you know some transparency with you guys
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because of so many people and this is important so many people are afraid of what's happening in
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this country you know they're they're desperate they want an answer do i support pierre do i
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support maxime do i support roman babbert do i support rebel and rebel is very good at you know
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getting people excited and saying send us the money and we are going to save the country and
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i mean i hope i hope so i i hope that's correct but it's it's also in a very cynical perspective
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on it it it the cynical take would be it seems like maybe they're kind of taking advantage of
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people's desperation and profiting off of it and that's one perspective that's one perspective
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and i think that's you know when you think of it as a business as well it actually would make
00:45:49.380
perfect sense for them to you to for them to go after you because like we were saying earlier
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you have a popular podcast you are somebody who does oppose the trudeau regime and you actually
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have kind of like the stars and stripes to prove it with all of your trips to jail that are
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unjustified right and um you know maybe that's why hey maybe that's why we shouldn't give this
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guy air time because maybe people will find his podcast and find his website and then they'll be
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like oh i kind of like this guy's takes better on politics than uh than uh what i'm seeing at
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rebelnews.com so so i'm just thinking like you know not not to again we're not here to like try
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and accuse anybody of like oh like you know any sort of nefarious plans i'm just thinking from a
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business standpoint there is kind of a logical kind of progression of why that would make sense
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from a business standpoint i i can appreciate that i mean they've got a business around they've got
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employees and all that kind of that kind of stuff but they're not a t-shirt company you know all of
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all these meat like your your goal and and you know they're a media company well are they making
00:46:45.300
kids shows these are serious issues that affect people's lives and if you're not if your primary
00:46:50.720
focus is money if then that is your god now and you will go where the money goes and the money
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goes where the money wants to go it doesn't go which way is right or wrong it's just where the
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money is and if you do that then you're now beholden to the money that's your master now
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um and we've gotten away from operating on on the the you know if you make money great i'm happy for
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you good for you but if you're going to abandon uh moral principles and and the core foundational
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you know the ethical you know things that that make up uh who we are and why we're different
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from the rest of the world and what makes this country what it is you're willing to abandon that
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because oh it's just business i don't want to live in a business i want to live in a country i want to
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live in a community that makes sense that values right and wrong that values transparency that
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values people that you know uh you know leadership that that has the courage to stand for what's
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right no matter you know what happens to them if it's going to be you know good for them or bad
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for them that's what i want and and to to to be like i'm gonna shine a light on this but only
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in so far as it makes me money uh that's i think you might be part of the problem there guy you
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know yeah i think we got to play this because it just seems so relevant this is from steven
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crowder i think last week of yeah yeah speaking of someone like that so we'll play a bit of this
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big tech is in bed with big con the people you thought the people i thought were fighting for
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you a lot of it has been a big con now i'm specifically avoiding naming names or going
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after so that was the first kind of clip that he that he aired of saying hey there's people out
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there that are not really for conservatism they're actually all about the money and they're in bed
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with big tech and like the entire conservative party for example right and have you been seeing
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how this has developed with steven crowder and the daily wire i followed a little bit of it yeah
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i mean mike my commentary on it was because he says later on guys this isn't about money this
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isn't about money and then i hear him on tim pool i hear him on all these other podcasts talking
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like we're going through line by line of the contract how much money that's not enough money
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i think it's a little bit about money seems to be a little bit about money but um like um again i
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just keep i just use these examples because like all he talks about is the military that was my
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whole life i don't have any other life experiences to go on i didn't play for a hockey team i didn't
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run a business i was in the military so that's what i did um speaking of like those special
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forces units and those guys they get paid a little more but they are not you know making
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millions of dollars to to do in i mean things that are so difficult like these these jobs are
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so demand so much of you if you're not there for the right reasons which is because i'm here to to
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be a warrior for the nation and do whatever is required because i want to be at the elite top
00:49:32.100
level of of effectiveness and and engage the enemies of our country and destroy them then
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you're in the wrong place because it's like no amount of money is going to make that you know
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any better there are what are these guys making 150k maybe 120 and that's at the top end you know
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to do that to be in like essentially delta force you know they're not you know why they do it
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because that's who they are you know so if you make if it's about money they they quit and they
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go join these mercenary companies who pay them four or five times that much money to sit around
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and guard an embassy and do nothing and they get all fat and you know why is he doing that um and
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If that's your primary motive, again, if you can make money, good for you.
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If that helps you, and then you can employ other people, you can whatever.
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But the mission or the primary focus is what are you doing?
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Are you trying to shine some light on something?
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Are you trying to push social issues or cultural change?
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It's secondary, tertiary, or it's way in the back.
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It's not, well, I would, but what's in it for me and how much am I going to make?
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that's why we're losing because we've lost that connection to our our moral framework like how
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about this you know for all these people crowder shapiro if there is no money anymore starting
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tomorrow are you still going to keep doing what you're doing would you keep showing up tomorrow
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if you if you had to do this for free would you keep doing it probably not good question good
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question and i would i i think this right every dollar i gone out the window i've got to pay banks
00:51:02.160
and lawyers and i'm i live in a wood pile greg yeah all the money that is sent to jeremy essentially
00:51:07.440
goes to his lawyer for those for those unaware and uh but but that's to say like you know that's
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kind of a virtuous thing though because you are fighting the state with your words as hard as you
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can so it it obviously isn't for the money because it's uh you know oh it's it's cost me
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substantially more i've spent nearly two hundred thousand dollars and you know and not most of
00:51:29.120
that i didn't even have this is like right fundraising i'm taking money at all our all
00:51:32.780
investments all gone all it's all gone you know sell this gone coins gone you dip into the crypto
00:51:37.580
it's all gone um to just to just keep going and keep because i'm not i refuse to lose i'm a
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stubborn son of a bitch so being a political dissident is not a good financial decision is
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that what you're saying no if you're doing this for the money or or your health or your longevity
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or your freedom uh you're gonna go to jail you're probably gonna get they might even try and kill
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you. So I don't, I don't know. I don't, I don't, uh, you gotta be in it for the lulls. You gotta
00:52:00.320
be in it for the law and the means otherwise. Yeah. Yeah. And I think this topic we'll come
00:52:05.620
back to on an episode, but let's talk about it a bit more before we go here. We're going to wrap
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it up soon, but, uh, you know, I think this has been a slow decay over the past few generations,
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which is, you know, when you first start to say, okay, you know what, I'm going to do this for my
00:52:20.100
paycheck. Maybe, maybe I'm going to sell it a little bit of my country, but, and my values,
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but i'm going to do it for this paycheck for this pay bump okay sure and that's probably happened
00:52:29.480
over the years but now when especially in the past few years it's like what do we got left in
00:52:35.220
terms of values what do we got left in terms of a country and and what is it for for for a hot tub
00:52:40.460
for for a nicer vacation really yeah i gotta gotta get some new pipes on my bike that pretty much
00:52:58.980
thing, it can be a bad thing, but you're giving
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than you were because you had to make some kind of compromise.
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for four-year-olds and dildos and all that i mean where does it end and this and this happened
00:53:19.800
because one you know how did it happen not all at once it was one brick at a time um and then and
00:53:26.620
then maybe a lot more at once than it was but somebody made a compromise somebody said i will
00:53:32.140
i will relent i will kneel and back down and let this happen because uh you know i'm gonna get
00:53:36.600
money or there's gonna be something in it for me i need to get elected or this isn't popular or cbc
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wants me to say that whatever it is and we've had generation after generation of weak men
00:53:44.840
compromising for their immediate interests they've sacrificed the future for the now
00:53:49.620
where they are how heroic of you guys to you know look out for the future so you know people like
00:53:54.860
me and you you know do we even have a chance you know this place has been getting cut up and sold
00:53:59.160
out since the 80s the 90s and then 9-11 and everything after that um you know people growing
00:54:04.480
up now they're in their early 20s they don't even know what's been taken away from them they don't
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they don't even remember yeah what what we used to have that is now gone because people would
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compromise and compromise and compromise with with awful awful people and now it's like i'm saying
00:54:19.360
enough is enough there's we're not going further than this i'm planting my feet right here in the
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ground and this is as far as she goes fellas if anything i'm taking things back like well no you
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can't do that i'm done being told what i need to compromise on and change this and change that
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that's um it's not again it's not my fault that the entire landscape of so-called opposition in
00:54:39.120
this country that is supposed to be standing against this you know globalist march to global
00:54:43.580
terror you know enslavement here whatever you whatever you want to call it it's not my fault
00:54:48.580
that they haven't been couldn't be bothered to really make much of a defense or anything they
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just rolled over and showed their belly um i'm doing the best i can and they'd rather boo and
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hiss and you know that guy because i i'm gonna get attacked i'm all the enemy fire a lot of it
00:55:01.840
is coming in my direction and they want to be make sure i'm they're standing far away from me
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i had people reach out and say uh stuff like people i've never heard from or people haven't
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heard from in a long time especially and uh to feign concern you know i'll be like hey hey what's
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going on are you okay like yeah i'm fine man you know this and that this is after you're debanking
00:55:20.840
just right this is after he's debanking people who have not talked to him in a long time
00:55:25.860
are reaching out all of a sudden and feigning and you're saying right and and be like oh
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all the injustice of it all that that's not what they're concerned about their concern is and
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they're more upset about this you brought this up more upset about the debanking than when i was
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imprisoned because you know from their worldview it's on it's fairly unlikely i mean we're not
00:55:44.320
near that stage yet where the government's just going to come after you know small time and just
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throw you in jail and this kind of thing but they might take your bank account so this made it more
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scary like they can imagine that they can't imagine the rcmp coming to your house making a
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bunch of shit up and throwing you in jail that just doesn't seem realistic to most people and
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trust me it doesn't until it happens to you right but the bank account calling the bank calling on
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the phone and saying we're terminating your bank account because well you know the new rules and
00:56:08.640
the new whatever that they can envision so this is this is purely out of self-interest this is out
00:56:13.660
of self-preservation not because of the moral reasons which is this shouldn't be happening
00:56:18.380
to anyone and these and people will be like oh well you know that's i can't be seen to support
00:56:22.880
you know in public because you know my image and all this kind of stuff it's more of the same and
00:56:27.620
it's like you're gonna kneel now you'll kneel later and you'll always kneel until you stop
00:56:32.360
doing it until you stand up and say i'm off my knees and i'm never going back down there
00:56:36.580
ever again for anyone until you start doing that and you don't compromise anymore you're always
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going to keep doing it's it's the same thing as the mentality of i'm going to go to the gym but
00:56:45.760
i'm going to go tomorrow i'll start tomorrow and then tomorrow comes out i'll do it tomorrow and
00:56:49.300
i'll do it you just keep putting it off and in the meantime you're just getting fatter and closer
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to death yeah it it is really disgusting i was i was pointing as i was pointing out to jeremy
00:56:59.040
before it's like people got so outraged over the debanking but it was crickets when it was the
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thrown in jail two times for for a bunch of like unsubstantiated charges and i think so you know
00:57:10.520
to be fair to these people i think in their world do it's more realistic to get screwed over by like
00:57:15.620
a major bank or like bell media or something like this because they're used to getting screwed over
00:57:19.280
by these large corporations but it is it is troubling because i think it that is scary
00:57:24.240
because it does speak to the well what about me and my money now i care yeah so it's like okay so
00:57:29.160
we we've basically been completely disconnected from you know what this nation means what freedom
00:57:33.640
means and you know standing up for one another and honor that's all out the window now that it's
00:57:38.080
going to affect you know your down payment now okay now i care all of a sudden because it's
00:57:42.440
gonna affect me and my stuff yeah right it could you're right i i've compared again we're gonna
00:57:46.660
we're going three for three we're gonna knock another we're gonna do another war metaphor
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it's like if you got i got hit by a sniper you know and i'm laying there bleeding like ah crap
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and somebody comes over and instead of going first aid like well where are you standing
00:57:57.380
so i don't want to get shot where where exactly were you when this happened so it doesn't happen
00:58:01.940
to me like i'm bleeding like i yeah i know that but where were you you know it's yeah i would i
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would like get you to a medic but like i don't want to be seen yeah with you because they might
00:58:11.760
shoot me i mean i said yeah but i don't i'm you know it's yeah we just crawl away i'll handle it
00:58:18.900
myself worm people just with just writhe away like you always do i don't need you we got to stand up
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for one another in this country that's going to do it for us today though um thank you so much for
00:58:29.680
being on the show mr mckenzie and you know there's a lot of work to be done in this country let's face
00:58:34.500
it you know and and like you were saying before i like what you said which is we got to criticize
00:58:38.460
one another we got to hold each other accountable to be better and we got to be honest we and it's
00:58:43.080
going to be messy it's going to be uncomfortable but we got to do that any final words before we
00:58:46.980
leave the people tonight nope that's actually the same thing and i don't that's not um it may see
00:58:53.220
again we live in a society of rounded edges and smooth corners and chocolate cakes and high fives
00:58:57.860
and rainbows and everything there's always a happy ending and the good guys always win so
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to criticize people and to kind of they don't like it anymore we have a very weak and soft society
00:59:05.920
And it's it's actually it's funny that they interpret this.
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They're attacking me. They're doing this. I want them to be better.
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I want it to be so laser focused and so effective that it just, you know, destroys these people.
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And we just wash them off the face of the earth.
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And we can't do that if we can't honestly point at each other and go, well, this is this sucks what you did.
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You need to do better than this. And they should be able to go.
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you're right i i should and then you know we pick each other up and dust each other off and we go
00:59:36.640
back at it and we're better for it together as a team rather than this uh this nightmare show we're
00:59:42.300
all just pointing fingers at each other and stealing money from everybody while these uh
00:59:46.320
these monsters get away with uh get away with our future quite frank yeah and if you want to
00:59:50.860
support the show and support jeremy mckenzie you should go over to givesendgo.com mckenzie
00:59:57.020
uh big shout out to uh viva fry for starting this fundraiser you know david freiheit he is being
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debanked the link is down in the description below so if you want to support the show then
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please forward that money on to uh to this fundraiser and yes salutes oh sevens to uh viva
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fry thank you so much sir and with that we are gonna get out of here um and as we always say
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on the show it is okay to demand higher standards see you guys cheers