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Greg Wycliffe
- December 19, 2025
Censorship is a Cancer | Free Speech Documentary QnA | The Hate Network, Calgary AB event Dec 16th
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Hate Speech Sentences
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It's going to spread like a cancer and it has in the last 20 years. Now there's a long list of what
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you can't say on campus. I want the people to understand that this is a controlled demolition.
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Those people know exactly what they're doing. First of all Greg, thanks for the documentary.
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I know it's such an important conversation we need to have. Well maybe we'll get started talking a
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little bit about you know there's there's so many threads to pull on in this having done this
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project whether it's academic freedom whether it's the persecution of Christians whether it's
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the justice system itself and I wanted to kind of first juxtapose Francis's story because Francis
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recently was arrested for trespassing on campus to talk about the Indian residential schools
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and Jojo is somebody who has been persecuted for being a pro-life activist on campus and I'm
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actually curious maybe we'll start with you John. You mentioned that in the film. Do you know much
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about Jojo's story specifically or kind of that the history of the persecution of pro-life activists
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on campus? Yeah Jojo is one of my former clients he was working for a pro-life group and they were
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always getting into trouble at Carleton and University of Calgary and all across Canada and I remember
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saying at the time so this is like 10 15 20 years ago at that time to my knowledge the only
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campus speech that was disallowed was pro-life speech there wasn't you know weren't too many other
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viewpoints that that you couldn't say but you couldn't couldn't talk about that it was unpopular
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it was offensive but I said often if we as a society condone the silencing of the pro-life viewpoint
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it's going to spread like a cancer and it has in the last 20 years now there's a long list of what
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you can't say on campus and that's just the the nature of the beast yeah censorship grows like a
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cancer so we need to root out censorship and restore freedom in Canada. And Jojo I wanted to
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juxtapose that kind of the very first shoe to drop if you will of censorship on campus being pro-life
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and if you're familiar with Francis Widowson's story most recently I'd love to kind of get your
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reaction to seeing that. Well first of all Greg thanks for the documentary I know it's such an
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important conversation we need to have and what we learned 20 30 years ago and we were getting
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persecuted on campus I was for example at McGill I was protested by the president of the student union
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and her friends after five words that I said for a speech that I gave and even pro-choice students
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who were not on my side who came up to me and said we want to hear the rest of your conversation
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because it's a it's a rational argument we're we're hearing and as I said in the documentary the
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problem is when you put feelings over facts there's no restrictions to what you can censor which is
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what's happened now because when you have feelings you there's there's no way to reason with feelings
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feelings become the thing you use to silence or bludgeon everybody else to agree with you
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and unfortunately that's where we're at right now in terms of society because as as we redefine
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how we run a society based on how offensive something is then there there's more and more
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things to be offended by especially with the internet so I I the only thought I would have
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even with bill c9 we need to expect more censorship it's coming just look at what's
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happening on university campuses where they're uh one unit at the university of victoria they banned
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mclean's magazine because of a cover article questioning uh racial quotas right they banned bottled
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water in certain universities because that's offensive and and it really goes back to the heart
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i think of what we need to do and this is where i hope we can the people in this room can really
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think about this we can't expect to challenge the culture the government the institutions we can't
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expect to have the conversations that matter with them until we're willing to have conversations with
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our neighbors our friends our co-workers and colleagues that's what we are able to do and and that's
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what i hope you can understand we have to push back on the idea that feelings are more important than
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facts that's really the message we need to share thank you jojo uh we're going to talk to francis
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and i want to get to kind of like the justice system and get to you arthur in just a second
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but uh francis you're kind of in a way kind of the latest shoe to drop that was the first shoe with pro-life
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but the latest shoe to drop is uh the indigenous residential schools and uh i mean what what are your
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thoughts on it now do you agree with it growing like a cancer or uh you know what are your what
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are your thoughts on that well i think definitely in the universities we we've seen that happening
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and it's been it's been a slow uh decline since the 1960s i guess when uh and this is something george
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orwell was very very cognizant of which is it's very very important to have the idea of an objective truth
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and that's especially important in the universities and that started to deteriorate since the 60s
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and so what if you don't have this idea of an objective truth you're searching for that objective
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truth then the subjective the subjective belief and and that this is related to feelings becomes paramount and
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there's no way for people to have some common agreement on the nature of reality if you're gonna if you're
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gonna prize subjectivity over objectivity and because that began to be destroyed in the 1960s we're just
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right now at the crossroads of that where you really cannot state facts that are deemed to be
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unpopular and are upsetting to favored groups on university campuses
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favored groups what an interesting term if you're in ontario and want to catch a screening of this
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documentary the hate network there is one december 21st in ottawa and one january 11th in toronto for all
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tickets and information go to save free speech dot ca um i wanted to get to archer because out of
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everyone i've interviewed i think you've probably been through the most uh persecution feeding the
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homeless uh it's been happening for over 20 years i guess since the arrests have started for uh feeding
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the homeless in calgary let's give a hand for archer for feeding the homeless here in calgary
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um i mentioned i mentioned there's a lot of different threads to pull on with this film like
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it's kind of an overarching thing of you know free speech um but this sort of justice system
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how it plays into that we mentioned how sometimes anti-hate people will kind of like say things in
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courts to try and persecute people they'll try and muddy the waters between speech and criminal behavior
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uh what do you think was missing in this film or like what do you think being one of the most persecuted
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canadians um people need to understand about this phenomena
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well first of all thank you so much for um for making it i mean i believe it's very important because
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you need to educate people about what is happening well for me i don't know um if i am the most
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persecuted person i mean 360 citations only and over 120 court cases for 20 years um i have been arrested
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so many times that my lawyers don't even know how many and i think only god knows how many times i was
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detained or arrested or manhandled you know all kinds of different things but for me it's a repetition
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of history you see i the way i'm looking at what is happening in our beloved canada
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i want the people to understand that this is a controlled demolition those people know exactly
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what they are doing so the way i look at everything that is happening is not that they
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woke up one day and they said okay we need this and we need that they have been working on this for decades
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and it's exact modus operandi it's like they took the book how to become a tyrant
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and they are reading it implementing chapter by chapter and i have been i spent past 20 years
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with my funny accent trying to entertain canadians about history and i was doing my best to tell them
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listen you have fallen asleep at the wheel they are taking over they are very aggressively taking
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over over your country this is the biggest elimination of the middle class that i have ever
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seen in the history of of mankind and they're doing it purposely and they're succeeding so in order to
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counter-attack that first of all you have to know what happened before
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and you got to start implementing what worked before and when i was at kudz during the truck convoy
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i questioned myself when i was stripped naked and solid confinement and you know metal cages that they
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kept me in i was asking myself this question why me why not him it's a very valid question why not him
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he would be a great prisoner he looks like one you know with shaved head we're friends with georgia
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actually i was at the university i almost lost my eyes 20 years ago when your students were attacked
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they asked me to film it and for filming it for filming it i they attacked me and wanted to gauge my eyes those
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tolerant nice people so um i asked myself why and it hit me well first of all because i grew up in hell
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so i know how hell looks like house how hell smells but also i have seen the remedy the solidarity movement
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i saw with my own eyes what worked against that kind of totalitarian regime and it scared the government
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because when i was telling canadian people give me enough canadians and i will give you back your
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liberty give me enough albertans and i will give you your freedom and your prosperity i mean we have
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more oil in saudi arabia we should be the most prosperous province within the confederation it scared them
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because suddenly here is a guy with an accent that grew up in hell have seen this movie before
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and knows how the movie ends and this movie my friends doesn't end well if you don't stand up
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this movie doesn't end well if you will not rise up because i want you to understand that those types of
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people will never stop if you think that one day they're going to wake up and you're such a lovable
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people um sorry that we have been doing this to you we promise we will stop show it to me in history
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something like this evil never stops on its own evil must be stopped so when i was articulating this
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they got scared they simply are afraid of me and i don't know why i'm such a lovable nice guy
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i don't know why they're afraid like look at my eyes right but this is the thing they are scared of
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history because what we are witnessing right now it's a repetition of history thank you so much
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i'm going to go to you next mr carpe um you know i personally think since the convoy and you know
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speaking to archer that there's been a failure of some of our major institutions um the mass media
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you know you name it the university institutions and in some degree uh the you know the justice system
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however at the same time sometimes there's been some of the biggest wins of actual their actual being
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actually being justice so i guess kind of speaking to uh archer's experience maybe kind of give us some
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hope of of of what is salvageable and um kind of bring us back down to reality here of how uh you know
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what the future could look like if we do the right thing together the ultimate guarantor of our freedoms is
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not necessarily a written constitution or an unwritten constitution but it is that in the culture in the hearts
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and minds of people there's a love for liberty and there's a strong deep-rooted understanding that
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government must respect basic human rights and fundamental freedoms and i think of canada
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before the canadian charter of rights and freedoms that's just one example so the charter has for
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example a list of rights that somebody who's criminally accused enjoys so you have a right to a
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fair trial before an independent judge or tribunal you have a right to counsel you have a right to
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be free from unreasonable search and seizure you have a right to remain silent which is a legal right
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that was created because uh in ages past it was quite common for law enforcement to torture people
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into a confession so hence uh this this right emerged the right to remain silent when you're criminally accused
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so these are all in the charter but what's interesting is that so the charter got added to our constitution
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in 1982 and but prior to that and certainly the legal system has never functioned perfectly it's run by
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people so that you know there will be miscarriages of justice from from time to time it's not perfect
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but there is this common understanding before the charter was added to the constitution everybody knew
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that a man is innocent until proven guilty a man has a fair trial blah blah blah blah everybody knew
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that everybody practiced it and so this is not pro charter or anti-charter but it my point is that
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it's the culture when you have a common understanding that is deeply rooted in the minds and the hearts of
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people uh that is the the key to having uh flourishing free society so
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briefly on the negative side we've we our culture has become rotten right so you have all the you know
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i could talk for myself everybody in this room could probably talk for three hours non-stop about all the problems
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that we got going on but it it's a cultural decline what i see that's very positive that encourages me
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is that there are more canadians awake today than in 2019 there are way more people that are aware
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and appreciative of freedom who six years ago would you know freedom oh yeah yeah we live in a free country
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you know let me get back to my my tv show or my job or or this or that there are way more people who are
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alert and awake and aware and active today than six years ago so we have a growing freedom movement
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in canada it's being sustained and nourished by independent media and i would say that your
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independent media uh jason levine is uh send up for a sec jason is independent journalist as one example
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um there might i apologize to others in the room if i if i didn't catch you but um we've got a growing
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independent media movement and that's a very important part of uh of taking back our our
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freedoms by changing the culture thank you thank you mr carpe um and i think we'll just do i'm gonna
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ask one question and we'll just go down the line and then after that we will take some questions from
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the audience so if you have any questions get them ready uh and while we're doing shout outs uh speaking
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of people who have been the most persecuted and punished for just standing up for what they believe in i want
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to draw attention to chris lysac in the crowd right there in the orange shirt give us a wave come on
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give us a wave the smallest man in the room that's right so um in making this project i more or less
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had three different goals in mind number one it's obviously to discredit the canadian anti-hate network
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let people know that this organization exists number two it's to show people this phenomena and
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especially show people who are more outspoken that you should not be intimidated by this group
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okay they're connected with antifa a violent deemed terrorist by donald trump recently um you know if
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antifa is going to call you names you know it makes no sense to listen to these people because they
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in the case of charlie kirk don't care if you get killed right so do not be intimidated by this group do
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not be intimidated by the name calling and then number three it's to educate the uninitiated i you
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know we were really intentional trying to make this like very open to people who maybe don't know the
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truth about the convoy maybe don't know the truth about you know vaccine deaths and all this sort of
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stuff um but i guess i'm curious you know down the line what do you think we can do moving forward to
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accomplish one or some of these goals like what do you think is like the most important kind of leverage
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point to change the culture as john was saying in canada to be one that truly is loving of liberty
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and and championing free speech because we understand how fundamental it is to a true democracy
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well my focus has been on the university system and i think if we cannot speak the truth in the
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universities it's over uh you know university has been created to you know develop knowledge
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disseminate knowledge pursue the truth and you cannot do that on university campuses today
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and i am the way i'm going to change it is i am going to go into every university campus in canada
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and get them to discuss things which they will not allow people to talk about and you should not have
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anything that you cannot talk about in a university and this is being exposed now especially in the
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province of british columbia which seems to have serious serious problems of authoritarianism which
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are unfolding so i think they're just in the last three months or so at uh universities in winnipeg and in
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british columbia the public is beginning to see the kind of terrible censorship that occurs and the fact
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that professors student unions and administrators not to mention the faculty associations are basically
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colluding with one another to prevent any open discussion on university campuses so i think that's one
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uh the the sharp tip of the spear which can do some make some serious change in the next year or so
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so we live in dark and challenging dangerous times in canada and and throughout the world
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um one of my heroes is winston churchill who uh became prime minister when when things were very very
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dark and it was not at all obvious that the side of parliamentary democracy was going to win out
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against the national socialists who were in charge not only of germany but but but all of europe
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and uh one thing he said is if uh if you're going through hell keep on going and so
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two two virtues that are very important to cultivate um one is the virtue of courage to speak truth to
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power which uh i see especially francis widows and i just admire when i see the wow like you do things i i
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i don't i wouldn't have the nerve to do to go onto campus and do a whole crowd of people who hate your
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guts and tell you so um in undiplomatic language and just kind of go out there so a real example of
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courage but everybody in in your own life in your own sphere you know practice courage by speaking truth
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to power and then the second virtue is the virtue of perseverance it's to keep on going recognizing that
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truth ultimately vanquishes the lie in the long run freedom prevails over tyranny and justice is going
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to crush injustice and that's all going to happen but we have to participate by perseverance by keeping
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on because we're not going to turn this country around in the next few days or weeks or months this
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is a project that's going to take years and decades so those are the two virtues that that everybody
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regardless of what what line of work you're in or what age what station of life
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um cultivate the virtues of courage and perseverance
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i just want to say that there is also um a mocha over there and he's an independent journalist and
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he's doing a great job kudos to him he faced life threatening situations for his reporting and
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that's courage in a face of very hostile wicked people and the hate network i mean they wrote a book
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about me i apparently i'm their favorite i rightly saw i'm a very adorable person so they just love to
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keep writing about me chapter after chapter after chapter i'm very grateful for the attention
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solution actually solution is very easy
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i will give you the simplest solution to your problems in canada are you ready fire them all
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do not ever again vote for the government that did this to you we still have the same government liberal
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conservative and the ndp the same government that did this to you changes faces never the body
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it's still the same body with different names with different faces nevertheless the same beast the same
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monster the moment canadians will realize the moment albertans will realize that is this beast that did this to
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you and you will decide because you have to decide to change things will change keep voting for the same
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monsters and nothing will ever change because they again they have an agenda and the agenda is very simple
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we canadians we already pay 55 in taxes and every year they raise their taxes why because they love you so
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much and they love your children this ends the moment you change and i want to encourage you to change
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do not vote for those people ever again i quite often i joke from the pulpit and i have some some people that
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can testify to this just that it was all the politicians right now in this country and my dog my dog gets the
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vote i would vote for my dog because my dog doesn't want to hurt me you feed my dog and my dog is a happy
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camper they keep feeding those monsters and they always want more and more and more this whole craziness
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we're facing right now ends the moment you rise up and you decide to change that's how we fix this country
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you lie to me once you lie to me twice some of our politicians keep lying to us every cycle every
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election what do we do we believe them again and again and again so again this changes when you change
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you know to your question greg i always go back as a christian apologist we love to talk about truth
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and and i think one of the key things we need to remember is that if we want to turn around culture
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we need to love that truth and live in that truth and when i say truth i'm simply saying the story of
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reality how the real world actually is so if i can identify as a golden chicken that doesn't make me a
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golden chicken but but here's the key that's important when we talk about truth we also need
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to be able to show why living in truth is better than living in delusion which is where our culture
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is at i used to work for an organization where i was actually told that i was going to be reprimanded
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because i hurt the feelings of one of the female staffers and then i had to take lessons on how to talk
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to women and the board made this decision without even telling me what i did and i thought wait this
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violates all kinds of rules about due process and and the the worst thing that that i heard from that
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incident guys was at least i met at least another half dozen pastors who went through something similar
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at their church so how can we expect culture to change if we tolerate these kinds of activities
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and ideas in our own organizations or churches so if you want to be able to change culture change your
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church first change your neighborhood first talk to your friends who think feelings are more important
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and push back not in a mean way you don't have to be rude about it but show them that truth actually
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leads to happier people and human flourishing when you put facts over feelings not the other way around
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and ultimately that's the way we're going to change our culture because here's the thing we need to
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remember the people on the left do what they're doing because they think they're the good guys
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that's why we can't reason with them and so the way we need to push back is through our actions
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through our attitude through the love that i believe god has given us we need to model why truth
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actually is the more compassionate and kind approach and if if that's the case and we're passing that
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on to the next generation we're going to out populate them because the values we have actually lead to
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human flourishing thank you very much all four of you now do we have any questions from the audience
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you got your hand up could you uh come down maybe so we can speak into the microphone unless you want
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to belt it out from there any other questions please stand up maybe make a line over here on the right
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side if you can hear me in the booth maybe turn down the microphone just a tiny bit
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yeah just ready yep okay great uh so thank you very much for making the movie that was great um
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so i wrote it down here but so i believe that it's helpful to know how badly things have gotten but to
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not focus solely on this um i think there needs to be a larger focus on what we want the image of the
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future to look like um i'm personally in the process of uh developing some like collaborative democracy
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tools because i think that they'd be really helpful we should be voting on what we would like the bills to
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look like that we see in canada um and i'm curious to know if there's any effort to rewrite how these
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bills should be written and it um how our charter should be changed in general there should be
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anybody want to take this one
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well the charter is not likely to change anytime soon because doing so would require
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uh majority vote in our federal parliament plus majority votes in seven provincial legislative
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assemblies so if there is a i don't know some amendment uh you know a right constitutional right
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not to get injected with with a novel substance if we wanted to add that to the charter that would
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actually require of the approval of the federal parliament and seven provincial legislatures which
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together have more than half of canada's population so practically speaking the charter is not going to
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change uh if if it could change um oh good grief don't get me started but it's not it's not it's not
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going to the best we can hope for it's it's just not politically realistic to try to change the charter
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however we have got broad latitude uh in engagement in the democratic process uh you've probably
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heard edmund burke's dictum the only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good people
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to do nothing a similar old french proverb that says if you don't do politics politics will be done
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unto you and this of course uh relates back to plato more than 2 000 years ago
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uh and this is a paraphrase not an exact quote but uh those who refuse to be engaged in the
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in politics uh are doomed to suffer the fate of being governed by their inferiors
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and so democratic engagement is extremely important for those reasons
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well let me ask a little survey here how many of you would think alberta would be a better place if
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we had a premier nenshi anybody okay hopefully hopefully most of us will realize there's a
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problem there but one of the things that we have to recognize as well as the responsibility of a
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citizen and i love what you're doing the questioner uh we actually have to go to our politicians when
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they're doing something right and commend them we actually have to show our support for them and i'm not
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saying the ucp is perfect by any means but god forbid that premier nenshi comes into a power next
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election we're in bigger trouble because we have no more protection under a provincial government
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so he forced me sorry he forced me to reply to this i have been politically active since the first world
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war at least and i want you to understand that we have bought this lie of voting for the lesser of two
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evils and we've done it every cycle every election and we always have or they always use the boogeyman
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if you don't vote for this uh ruling party then that ruling bad party will take over and we are doing
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this every 10 years and since the creation of our wonderful confederation we only have two ruling
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parties it's like i'm sure you're familiar with the expression you know this but criminal as i am but
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the good cop and the bad cop they all work for the same police department i'm sure you know and that's
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exactly what we have in our government the only solution to our problem is fire them all every single
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one of those people that did this to us fire them all and vote for a new blood a people a new party that
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is actually going to work for you not against you
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okay thank you so much i would love to keep chatting but uh i think they're going to kick us out but you're
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