Greg Wycliffe - Coutts Explained! RCMP corruption, wire taps - Live with Jason Lavigne!

00:00:00.000 review this morning please go check it out after this episode it's very good actually first go to

00:00:04.440 shadow davis then go check out my show we'll get to that in a second but um it was an excellent

00:00:09.100 episode arthur poloski was sitting here talking about how their scandals in the mist and how we

00:00:14.540 need to find them get rid of them work on unity move forward a lot of good stuff he has lots of

00:00:19.620 experiences that he shared from the lethbridge courthouse because he did come down a few times 1.00

00:00:23.180 and also a couple things he had to say about the coots man as well and i'm very excited i'm always

00:00:29.140 excited to have good people on the show not only was art they're awesome this morning i now have

00:00:33.460 breg wycliffe here i am so pleased because we we cover a lot of the similar stuff but he goes

00:00:39.340 really in depth and he goes on youtube and he does a real great job especially with production

00:00:43.360 and he's putting out there i'm just a live streamer but he's an actual content creator

00:00:48.280 excited to have a chat with him about what he's doing the last few years since the convoy and

00:00:54.180 also to talk about how there was this narrative around diagonal and the coots situation if you

00:00:59.880 listen to the media early in 2022 february when it came out with that announcement and and on

00:01:05.520 especially if you listen to that guy on rebel you strongly would think that the diagonal had

00:01:10.780 something to do with what was going on in the coots matter turns out they didn't uh i was there

00:01:16.440 for the whole time pre-trial trial i can tell you what came in what didn't come in what they talked

00:01:21.340 about what they didn't talk about what they found what they didn't find and then we can also get

00:01:25.060 into some of the details of greg so without further ado let's go ahead and have him on

00:01:28.700 good evening wow what an introduction you man you're a content creator too what are you talking

00:01:34.820 about you're saying i'm taking the baby steps i'm getting there you got a camera you got a better

00:01:41.040 mic than i do come on this is a gift from a fan somebody that watches the show early

00:01:46.900 so i didn't even buy that but no i'm getting there but i must be getting there because uh

00:01:52.440 you're the pretty girl of the ball right now everybody wants to on their show we had to work

00:01:56.240 out some schedules this week so i'm really excited that shadow and you you're going to be on shadows

00:02:01.920 on friday and i'm really glad that we get to talk tonight and you must be doing something right if

00:02:06.680 you're getting on everybody's show now i mean i i i appreciate your your your glowing um you know

00:02:13.020 thank you uh i'm just reaching out to people who i know are friendly to the cause and who get it

00:02:18.640 um and you were saying earlier that i i really look in depth in this stuff i'm excited to talk

00:02:25.340 to you because i don't understand the coot situation as well as i should as someone who

00:02:29.800 is trying to champion the political prisoners in canada um you know the dust has not even settled 0.52

00:02:35.760 from the trucker convoy we're still dealing with all sorts of of insanity and i haven't been able

00:02:40.000 to keep up with all of it i have not been able at all to keep up with all all the details all the

00:02:44.300 bs uh like i was watching a clip um from your your show this morning of am i going to understand

00:02:51.200 that that arthur pavlowski got a tech some sort of weird technical charge the reason he got arrested

00:02:57.640 on the highway was because of some trespassing charge having to do with mail did i get that

00:03:02.400 right is that am i understanding i think it's complicated he's been arrested so many times

00:03:07.220 but I think what you're talking about

00:03:09.320 when he was on the highway on his knees or dragging

00:03:11.320 him away, I think that was related to COVID

00:03:13.520 but yeah, he's had

00:03:15.320 a lot of issues where people

00:03:16.520 he has now been trespassed from the post

00:03:19.400 office, he had to get the police involved

00:03:21.260 to get his mail

00:03:22.160 was about to turn into criminal issues

00:03:25.120 because they were withholding his mail

00:03:26.460 this man has a lot going on

00:03:29.100 let me tell you a quick one just to give you an idea

00:03:31.220 of how much they pick on him

00:03:32.240 for like 20 years he was at the same spot in Calgary

00:03:35.320 preaching on the street, same spot

00:03:37.160 between the same tree feeding the homeless correct yes yep wasn't just preaching uh they

00:03:42.020 correct yeah feeding people you got a bunch of tickets they harassed him to the point where

00:03:46.960 they put porta potties on his spot this is how they've now responded so to and take that spot

00:03:53.060 he's been at for 20 years they want to put porta potties there for the good of the public i'm sure

00:03:57.280 right but specifically right where he where he had his thing set up that's how petty this gets for

00:04:02.980 him yeah no it's uh I remember hearing about Arthur Pawlowski right uh before uh COVID happened

00:04:09.940 and he the street advocate I watched his documentary it's it's fascinating if you know

00:04:15.080 he he already knows about the corruption in this parliament even before the the big COVID stuff 0.99

00:04:19.160 um but yeah there's uh I'm I'm maybe we can talk about the coot stuff because I'm still sort of 0.98

00:04:27.180 trying to come up to speed two of them got out and yeah agreements yep were were clear of all 0.53

00:04:35.760 charges is that right no no they took a plea so you're referring to jerry morin and chris licek

00:04:42.420 uh so february 2024 so not too long ago earlier this year they took a plea we'll start with chris

00:04:48.260 licek because it's the easiest one he took lee that he had uh his registered firearm so it was

00:04:53.560 legal but it was loaded and improperly stored so that's the charge he okay he agreed with so he

00:05:01.560 took a plea on that he got time served i'm sure it would have been like a ticket in a normal world

00:05:06.320 it wouldn't have been right other than that but he took time served on that one uh jerry morin he

00:05:12.080 took a plea agreement shortly after hearing about lysic doing a plea agreement he didn't know about

00:05:16.100 the details so his deal is very different it's a very different lawyer and his plea agreement was

00:05:22.380 a confession or at least a plea to a conspiracy to traffic weapons for a dangerous purpose

00:05:27.560 and then he provided some details about chris and tony uh and their involvement in that so that was

00:05:34.840 his plea so slightly different he actually pled to something a little bit more conspiracy related and

00:05:40.040 dangerous purpose and weapons related but it was conspiracy he didn't he didn't plea to actually

00:05:47.560 trafficking anything he pledged to talking about or conspiracy to do it but not actually doing it

00:05:53.540 so when you look at the bigger picture did jerry move firearms no he didn't plea to that he just

00:06:00.380 pledged to contemplating and talking about it and then he got time served and released as well

00:06:06.020 okay cool cool yeah thank you thank you for that summary this is no worries because i i can tell

00:06:13.200 you've been uh you know paying attention to this for some time now and it's it's good to know

00:06:16.860 the actual facts of the matter and i think it goes without saying that uh

00:06:21.320 you know they did not at all deserve to be in jail for this long you know like it's it's just

00:06:28.840 absurd it's insane um and uh i don't know do you disagree with that or i i'm i'm there's a

00:06:37.640 it's complicated okay so if we're on facebook i'm selecting relationship status complicated on this

00:06:42.360 one it's complicated was there illegal activity the jury says yes was there issues that we saw

00:06:50.200 in the trial is this all four of them together should we go to the other two or is that or

00:06:53.520 or what yeah fair enough fair enough so two of them are off the table as of february

00:06:58.700 they weren't in the trial they made their plea so fair enough so we'll refer to just

00:07:03.120 carbert and olenik because they stood trial in that one there was stuff that came forward that

00:07:09.540 I think if you heard it for what it is, you'd be like, hmm, interesting.

00:07:15.000 There were some omissions.

00:07:16.740 There were some confessions.

00:07:19.360 There was some greed statement of facts put on the record,

00:07:22.260 which did lead Chris Carbert to enter a direction to the jury to find him guilty on mischief.

00:07:30.080 So when we all say they didn't do anything criminal,

00:07:33.900 Chris Carbert disagrees with you because he did plead guilty for mischief.

00:07:37.320 So the criminal charge of mischief.

00:07:39.540 He pled not guilty to weapons for a dangerous purpose, for sure.

00:07:43.360 And he pled not guilty to conspiracy to commit murder.

00:07:47.620 Tony pled not guilty to all of that.

00:07:49.960 Sorry, sorry.

00:07:50.420 Before we go, mischief in this case is what exactly?

00:07:55.140 Because I'm confused.

00:07:56.160 Blocking the border and the highway.

00:07:58.280 The pleasure and the use of the border and the highway.

00:08:00.740 Okay, okay.

00:08:01.500 So being part of the blockade.

00:08:03.400 Okay.

00:08:04.280 Correct.

00:08:04.640 And that in Alberta, because Marco Van Hoogenbaas, Alex Van Herc, and George Jensen, who were considered the leaders, they were called the Coutts Trio, they had their trial by jury for mischief and mischief only.

00:08:19.020 They weren't charged with anything else.

00:08:20.720 And that's where it's basically been set precedence-wise in Alberta that aiding, abetting, counseling, or participating is enough to be found guilty of that.

00:08:29.640 Because all three of those gentlemen were found guilty by jury.

00:08:31.720 and this and this is for specifically blocking the highway yeah in fact these three gentlemen

00:08:37.880 didn't even have a vehicle involved they were just the facilitators logistics operators

00:08:43.760 organized not even organizers that's the wrong term uh there's certainly a spokesperson especially

00:08:49.280 for marco but no marco alex and george it wasn't proven in their trial that they had a vehicle

00:08:54.840 involved um in fact the closing for the crown said these gentlemen didn't have a vehicle involved

00:08:59.760 however they're the ones that helped make the decisions so right um and someone in my chat i

00:09:06.880 was going to ask about this someone said what's in the envelope i remember hearing everybody asked

00:09:11.320 what about the envelope what's going on i can tell you it's crime fraud that's what's in that

00:09:17.300 envelope now specifically what's in that envelope that makes a crime fraud hasn't been provided to

00:09:22.740 people so there's i'm treat me like i'm five i'm a dummy what is crime fraud great question

00:09:30.700 crime fraud is when a lawyer so you have to be a lawyer it can't just be the rest of us

00:09:35.240 gives legal advice has to be legal advice and it has to be advice that leads to the commission of

00:09:41.340 a crime so that's called crime fraud is a hyphenated term because it's specifically that

00:09:47.520 lawyer legal advice commission of a crime so what's accused or alleged the advice leads to

00:09:55.480 the commission of a crime yeah so if your lawyer told you how to murder somebody and get away with

00:10:01.500 it that's crime fraud so this would be a document so in the envelope is a letter from a lawyer that

00:10:07.920 says like hey look what this lawyer told this person to do kind of better than that it's a page

00:10:12.920 out of the notes of the one of the rcmp officers the main one who was working on the itos and the

00:10:18.120 warrants stuff uh him he was a lead officer that had the designation to be able to do wiretap

00:10:26.060 warrants and other things his notes one page from his notes that contains i'm told seven lines uh

00:10:33.620 that was accidentally disclosed it was supposed to be redacted it accidentally wasn't redacted

00:10:39.180 Uh, he provided notes on what the defense attorneys for them, uh, called crime fraud after they read it and received it.

00:10:48.380 Um, so this would be the, the crown prosecutor lawyer.

00:10:53.840 Correct. So specifically, specifically Stephen Johnston, because he had to be excluded from the, uh, application around this.

00:11:03.460 So the Crown's office had to send a different prosecutor to defend the Crown's office on the application because specifically Stephen Johnston, the client is the RCMP and the client RCMP will not waive a confidentiality or privilege.

00:11:19.880 So currently this envelope is sitting under the client solicitor privilege and is sealed.

00:11:26.240 and will there be justice to this would this have to be a separate uh you know court proceedings

00:11:34.320 is it right okay so yeah so it'll be a long time before we see any sort of real

00:11:40.620 uh do you think justice will be served in this in this instance of the rcmp

00:11:45.740 it has to be yeah they have to clear this allegation of crime fraud so either they

00:11:51.900 have to clear the crown's office or hold him accountable you can't leave this one in limbo

00:11:56.840 but to get there it requires a successful application in front of the justice and i

00:12:01.780 believe it has to be the justice who sealed it so david labrens and he has to be convinced that

00:12:07.020 it needs to be opened who can open it well media can put a request in i'm sure if cbc said hey look

00:12:14.640 we want to open this for public interest it could uh the attorney general or somebody from the

00:12:19.340 the minister's office could here for justice to open it up see what's going on the crown's office

00:12:25.740 themselves could put an application in to go for accountability sake or even for reputation sake

00:12:31.020 deal with it um common joe could walk in there with a good enough argument and if you can convince

00:12:37.020 the justice to open it they will so it's currently sitting in a desk somewhere in the lethbridge

00:12:42.460 courthouse to be determined on what's going to happen with it there's a talk amongst friends

00:12:48.300 of ours people that we both know that wants to raise some money to go ahead and do exactly that

00:12:53.100 go get a lawyer walk into a courtroom and make some valid arguments to get it open so i do think

00:12:59.420 it will happen one day wow wow um okay so let's move on uh my head my head's trying to you know 0.84

00:13:08.140 retain all this information uh let's move on to the to the fourth uh coots man did we cover him

00:13:16.300 so the last two yeah so tony olenick and chris carbert yeah so your question kind of said you

00:13:23.460 know no illegal activities and i was kind of humming and hawing a little bit because we can't

00:13:28.220 really say completely innocent chris asked for a guilty verdict on mischief and uh the jury

00:13:34.860 certainly found tony guilty on everything except for conspiracy to commit murder which includes an

00:13:40.240 explosive charge whether or not they deserve to be in there is a whole other conversation

00:13:45.900 I don't think so.

00:13:47.240 I think that they should have been able to have bail from day one,

00:13:50.860 do their trial, go through the sentencing,

00:13:52.700 and then maybe do some sort of detention

00:13:55.280 because you're innocent until proven guilty.

00:13:58.660 But in this particular matter, four men went in for over two years,

00:14:03.020 and then the other two are still in there right now.

00:14:05.740 In fact, they got moved to the Calgary facility,

00:14:08.060 and we're trying to wait to find out if they're moving to Drumheller,

00:14:11.620 which is where the violent criminals go

00:14:13.800 because they're considered violent at this stage the drum yeah um well and that was really my point

00:14:20.980 it's it's uh you know even if there is some guilty actions going on here it's they were clearly used

00:14:28.200 um to fit a government narrative to drag it out as long as possible and to kind of continue this

00:14:34.980 argument um to me that doesn't sound like a sound uh justice system it sounds it still sounds like

00:14:40.960 uh these people were being used as pawns being used as kind of poster poster childs to try and

00:14:46.240 like you know create a certain narrative uh you know it's my understanding that the justice system

00:14:50.360 is supposed to find the truth of the matter and to see like who's who's guilty and who's not

00:14:54.020 and uh instead they kind of uh well made matters made matters much worse try to make examples of

00:15:00.700 these men and um i mean yeah yeah to be to be fair it it does strike uh intimidation into people

00:15:08.340 you know what i mean like it's not like it's it's uh i think for anybody in coots alberta

00:15:13.980 this idea that uh you know the government is acting lawfully and that it's has anything other

00:15:21.060 than to do with power is kind of completely out the window i think they kind of understand they

00:15:24.480 have a pretty cynical view i would say uh would you agree with that correct 100 and it's not just

00:15:31.400 the judicial system which we want to call the justice system but it's really a legal system

00:15:36.620 there's very little justice right now and it's also law enforcement as well we have a big problem

00:15:41.340 here in alberta with law enforcement specifically the rcmp um there's a lot of trouble that came

00:15:46.640 out in the trial around them as well well yeah and the envelope doesn't sound too hot for the

00:15:53.840 rcmp i know it's got both players in it the rcmp and the crown specifically stephen johnston

00:15:59.520 i would want if i was them i would want to clear the air i would want to hey no this is being

00:16:05.260 misunderstood by four highly talented lawyers well three plus one but in either case four defense

00:16:11.080 lawyers stood up and said no putting my reputation on the line this is crime fraud we need to proceed

00:16:17.780 with it as crime fraud there's a full application it took a week for the arguments it was expensive

00:16:23.700 for everybody involved but these lawyers put their reputation online and said we need to go through

00:16:28.200 this because that's what this is this is crime fraud yeah yeah um and how do you how do you

00:16:34.340 currently feel about is there still like a publication ban on this story because i remember

00:16:40.280 that was a big issue big problem for even telling people the truth of what's going on is that still

00:16:46.200 great question okay so there's three publication bans there's one that's the criminal code one that

00:16:52.460 covers jury trials so once a defendant or accused elects to have a jury trial if it is a jury trial

00:16:59.940 there's an automatic publication ban that goes in place where nothing can be publicized that

00:17:06.160 isn't in front of the jury so that means pre-trial before the jury is selected nothing can go out and

00:17:11.720 i've gotten my hand slapped on that one already sorry was this the is this chronological these

00:17:17.300 different uh publication bans because you're talking about the jury one first uh chronological

00:17:22.120 maybe not but just weeks apart because when the election for jury comes up that's when that goes

00:17:26.880 in i guess technically chronologically the very first publication ban is the defense application

00:17:32.320 for a publication ban on the information to obtain the itos this is what came out early

00:17:38.640 this has the narrative including diagonal and we'll get to that and this is what cbc and the

00:17:44.320 rest were running with and because they were running with that ito information the defense

00:17:49.080 asked for a ban on it and got one so that would be chronologically the first one

00:17:54.460 uh the second one would be the jury one and then the third one would be the crime fraud envelope

00:18:00.500 one so there's a publication banner around the contents of that and the decision of that one

00:18:06.600 so we're not going to talk about the decision that the judge gave i wasn't even there it was

00:18:10.320 closed private court and i don't know the contents of that one so we we're not violating it the jury

00:18:17.140 one so the second one chronologically i'm trusting you on this one well it'll follow my head i'm

00:18:22.920 posting you so it'll fall on my head um but the second one it came off when the jury went into

00:18:28.860 deliberation so as soon as the jury was deliberating which means they're locked into a

00:18:33.580 room until they decide that ban got lifted so immediately we could start talking about pre-trial

00:18:38.760 stuff and everything except for the ito and the crime fraud envelope we still couldn't go into

00:18:44.800 the details of that one it's complicated like i said facebook status complicated it's complicated

00:18:54.200 yeah no no i i do appreciate this though because it it is uh you know it's part of our history now

00:19:00.100 and it's it is a kind of complex complex complex confluence of different uh different things going

00:19:06.380 on the media the rcmp and some some some guys from alberta trying to try to do anything you know

00:19:14.380 And let me tell you how I learned my lesson on the publication, Bam.

00:19:18.460 I did an episode 50 minutes long.

00:19:20.900 The very next day, the Crown had that episode ready for the judge.

00:19:25.680 They had timestamps.

00:19:27.100 They were unhappy with two portions of my video.

00:19:29.900 That totaled a minute and a half.

00:19:31.920 So two portions that totaled a minute and a half is all that the Crown had a problem with.

00:19:35.680 The rest of my video was fine.

00:19:38.540 Because I'm doing my best to not give details.

00:19:41.260 I'm trying to stay high level.

00:19:42.600 like here's what we're trying to do in court and here's why we're doing this process they were fine

00:19:46.760 with all of that the details that they had a problem with and i can say this now because that

00:19:50.840 trial is over is i said that there's two applications being argued this week so that was

00:19:55.580 the first violation saying that there's two applications it's too much detail and then i

00:20:00.980 named the two applications so the first application was an application to notify the jury that they

00:20:07.020 can ask questions. I'm not joking. There was an application and lawyers argued on whether or not

00:20:13.440 the judge should tell the jury that they can ask questions. And just to spoil it, the decision was

00:20:18.700 no. So the jury was not told they can ask questions. The second application was whether

00:20:24.160 or not the jury can be notified that they can nullify their verdict. Nullification means voting

00:20:28.940 your conscience versus the law. And spoiler alert, no, they were not successful with that application

00:20:35.260 either so the jury was not told that my violation and my publication ban concern for the crown was

00:20:41.960 the number of applications two and then the names of them i didn't go into details about what it was

00:20:47.840 or the arguments but i stayed higher level so what the crown tried to do stephen johnston you're

00:20:54.180 going to hear that name a lot uh he asked the judge to allow them to charge me for a not just

00:21:01.160 a publication ban violation under the criminal code which is a summary offense up to six months

00:21:05.740 he wanted me charged with a court order violation so section 127 that's two years imprisonment so

00:21:13.600 he asked the judge to consider providing i guess direction to him to have me charged under a public

00:21:21.800 not publication ban violation a court order violation the judge said well i want to watch

00:21:27.280 the whole video then he doesn't want to watch just the parts that the crowd wants him to watch he

00:21:31.860 goes i want to watch the whole video then so that's exactly what happened we all had an adjournment

00:21:35.960 he watched an episode of mine it was 50 minutes long judge comes back yes this is in the marco

00:21:43.020 alex george court and is and is this in the same times like like for a cooch trial we're having

00:21:48.320 this like parallel sort of thing to do whether or not you violated a publication ban or not

00:21:53.640 yes so marco alex george trial i'm the first piece of evidence and i'm the first judicial

00:21:59.200 decision of that trial because it started monday and i said this on tuesday actually no i said it

00:22:06.380 monday night so then the court stuff was tuesday morning so then they almost paused the trial

00:22:11.740 to be like okay let's see if we're gonna charge this journalist or not with a publication back

00:22:16.560 correct the entire day tuesday if you look at the official record there's no business on tuesday

00:22:22.680 except for the publication ban violation potential of this juror of this journalist that whole day

00:22:28.300 was that i'm i'm speechless i i don't i don't know much about the law to begin with but uh you know

00:22:36.660 this is uh huh and and i think it's yeah how uh and how did that play out do were you were you

00:22:45.280 guilty well the judge watched the whole video and he was he was firm but kind so his decision

00:22:52.540 was no he's not going to recommend i'm not even banned what they're going to do is they're going

00:22:57.640 to put my video in as evidence and if it happens again it will then be used to address it if it

00:23:03.600 happens again but his comments were he tried to stay within the bounds of the publication ban

00:23:10.060 but failed miserably that was his comment and he goes if you watch it in its entirety he wasn't

00:23:15.900 blatantly trying to it to do it he needs to be more careful type of thing and i certainly learned

00:23:21.580 because i went back to those two spots that the crown said was a problem and i went and

00:23:26.620 re-listened to them and it literally was me saying how many applications and the names of them

00:23:31.340 the rest of my show he was fine with wow so i learned my lesson like specifically stay away

00:23:36.460 any detail i would argue though you didn't really that doesn't sound like you failed miserably it

00:23:40.740 sounds like they got you on a couple technicians like technical uh technical faults there doesn't

00:23:45.880 seem like a huge fail i wouldn't call that failing miserably just to you know no i would agree with

00:23:50.860 you but i think he was firm because he kind of needed to to maybe send a message and maybe to

00:23:55.140 give the crown a little bit of something yeah he failed miserably but no he's not recommending

00:24:00.160 charges so i didn't get banned i was allowed to stay you know he looked at me while he was given

00:24:04.780 his his decision there i sat there through it i wasn't signaled out like during this whole event

00:24:10.580 they just said podcaster in person but i knew who it was because i was told before that it was coming

00:24:15.820 and uh yeah i sat there and listened to it everybody knew what was going on but uh what

00:24:20.960 was that moment what was that moment like you were you were literally in court watching your

00:24:26.180 own show as evidence well they didn't play it in court we adjourned and the judge went and

00:24:31.520 watched it himself privately um okay kind of well the morning was hey we have this problem

00:24:38.580 then we adjourned to watch it then we came back after lunch and then we had some decisions it was

00:24:44.400 it was surreal i'll be honest with you it didn't hit me until a couple days after though after

00:24:50.380 kind of digest for a bit and i and i realized how close i was for being charged criminally charged

00:24:55.760 for trying to do this work then it hit me and it was rough um i actually took a little bit of time

00:24:59.900 to kind of address it did the judge say anything about because it's it sounds like the uh crown

00:25:05.940 prosecutor for the rcmp tried to throw the book at you and say okay not only did he uh violate this

00:25:14.560 um non-publication but but let's also charge him for a two-year charge or what was it again

00:25:21.160 uh court order violation because at the beginning of the trial the judge says yes we're putting

00:25:26.780 publication ban in that's considered a court order and they wanted to get me under that instead

00:25:31.420 did the judge say anything about that uh charge that they tried to like no no no he didn't break

00:25:39.900 it down like that he just basically said i'm not going to make that recommendation i'm not taking

00:25:44.860 any action but we're going to hold on to this and if it happens again then of course it's going to

00:25:49.500 be like double trouble or something but he made it pretty clear don't come close to that line again

00:25:54.060 and i didn't did you have did you have any moment uh throughout all of this reporting coots day

00:25:59.840 after day that you thought uh man this is just way too much trouble for me yes yeah oh yes we

00:26:07.360 almost shut the show down we almost didn't go uh right before the main trial there were some

00:26:12.240 decisions on our side like we we put tens of thousands of dollars into doing this from our

00:26:17.220 own bank account and when it came to the point where i could be losing access to my family for

00:26:22.080 a while for what i'm paying for this i'm doing this work there's a small group of people that

00:26:26.800 are making my life difficult and by the way the crown was really clear at the beginning of their

00:26:32.320 hey judge we have something they didn't say we learned of uh we were told of so this little

00:26:38.960 group that likes to make a lot of headaches put it to the crown that i was talking about this stuff

00:26:44.640 the crown wasn't watching they received a tip yeah we know where the tip came from um but yes

00:26:50.400 absolutely i have a group of people that are trying to end my show and my life i've received

00:26:54.820 death threats and uh just end it all and i still have to walk into that courtroom with them there

00:27:00.600 and do that work so absolutely i'm not going to lie even close we we reconsidered things

00:27:05.640 i um i oh there's betty right there i was given the okay to bring up the envelope at a town hall

00:27:12.640 meeting with danielle smith right on betty um i believe that the answer from danielle knowing

00:27:17.920 danielle uh something something something arthur peloski something something something another

00:27:22.580 day um that's likely her response to to betty on that one right um because she's not touching this

00:27:28.400 for a while yeah she totally screwed up my question i'm not surprised there you go betty

00:27:33.360 did you see this clip speaking of danielle smith this is kind of a viral clip so maybe we'll

00:27:38.060 liven it liven it up in uh detox from the lawyer talk for just a minute did you see this clip of

00:27:43.260 the uh what is it the the mla in jennifer something jennifer was basically going through

00:27:50.460 this struggle session with this uh transgender person being re-educated and this is part of

00:27:56.060 danielle smith's team part of yep i'm blown away so the somebody leaked the global tv coverage of

00:28:05.180 this from yesterday it wasn't online global didn't put it online it was only on live tv

00:28:09.480 somebody recorded it came out it's quite literally the same thing that we're seeing

00:28:13.480 with jordan peterson they want to re-educate her she needs to be more sensitive to lgbtq

00:28:18.160 plus plus plus negative explanation point like whatever they're called now

00:28:21.500 she's she's doing that and i'm just blown away plus plus negative i've never heard that one

00:28:26.860 that's good i'm gonna take that i just try to be as inclusive as i can with all those pluses

00:28:32.120 and that negative is of course guys like you and i we don't belong in that group

00:28:37.820 and that's their choice um but no it reminds me of jordan peterson re-education and this shouldn't

00:28:43.220 be happening with uh danielle smith but it is i'm sure well it's it's the worst of the worst stuff

00:28:49.420 that you could imagine and the fact that it's happening under danielle smith who who i will

00:28:53.680 admit has has been one of the most vocal conservative voices in the country you know

00:28:57.680 she has said some great things that it's you know although i don't although i don't think she's

00:29:03.080 doing everything she can and i think that she might just be a corrupt globalist feeding us

00:29:07.780 what we want to hear uh she has at least said some of the right things on the microphone and

00:29:13.520 it's just very disappointing when it's like when you look into it it's like oh this person seems

00:29:17.120 just as bad as uh our political enemies you know it's like two plus two equals five say say trans

00:29:23.760 trans women are women it's crazy it's an interesting version it's not conservative

00:29:29.700 not even close to conservative um what she's doing i think it's antithetical to to logic 0.86

00:29:36.240 and reason and just basic truths it's definitely not uh conservative no right so she now leads the

00:29:44.060 united compromising party because that's what she's been doing is doing a lot of compromising

00:29:48.480 she's not convicted she's not conservative she's compromising a lot right now and that includes

00:29:53.200 doing this to one of her own mlas yeah um it is it's nuts i was i was just gonna say like

00:30:03.460 in the future if we if we don't win this uh cultural political battle in the future

00:30:09.280 you know we'll be on trial have one hand on the bible i solemnly swear that trans women

00:30:16.120 are women and i will tell the whole truth nothing but the truth so so help me um

00:30:21.600 baphomet uh just trying to lighten the mood here a bit i don't think you're wrong because one of

00:30:30.520 the first shocks that happened in the carpet trial was the judge coming out and apologizing

00:30:35.600 because he said to the jury ladies and gentlemen so he apologized because we're supposed to be

00:30:40.900 saying members of the jury and he caught himself a couple times saying ladies and gentlemen

00:30:46.040 that's what he's gonna apologize out of all the things you're gonna apologize for hey sorry

00:30:51.960 sorry you guys were on remand for uh geez oh man you know what i set the timer totally forgot about

00:30:57.740 it they're not going to say sorry about that oh whoops i said ladies and gentlemen correct and

00:31:03.200 then he slips back into it for about a week he was still doing it and then obviously there's

00:31:07.160 another conversation because i think he eventually had a post-it note because a couple times i saw

00:31:12.140 him look down and then say members so a little reminder to remind the judge uh be woke make

00:31:18.440 sure you're woke and sensitive because of course people are losing their minds right where are the

00:31:22.440 priorities it's crazy i can i can say this now but marco van hoogamos have you had a chat with

00:31:27.480 him yet have you had him on your show yet no marco then you should okay hoogan bonds yeah yeah so he

00:31:34.380 was a main spokesperson during the convoy thing or the coots brocade all the rebel videos is marco

00:31:39.660 talking you should have him on um what he did was he did post on x talking about barbara perry

00:31:46.500 and how she's being looked at as a potential witness and then he also mentioned um that he

00:31:53.720 doesn't think that he thinks he's going to get in trouble for this post well he did um the crown

00:31:59.480 brought that post to the judge of marco's own trial okay it's his own trial so the judge had

00:32:04.980 to say to him basically stop posting uh you're violating publication man you can't talk about

00:32:10.040 that kind of stuff so he got in trouble there what was his trial about for marco mischief as

00:32:15.720 the leaders for oh he's one of the he's one of the coots three oh yep the coots trio yeah so

00:32:21.880 marco alex and george yeah lots of moving parts my friend yeah this is why you have to be there

00:32:27.720 for a reason why my ears perked up is uh we've talked about barbara perry at savefreespeech.ca

00:32:33.320 before she is a contributor to anti-hate.ca which is you know part of this far left coalition this

00:32:39.540 network of people who try to create immediate consequences for people with the wrong opinions

00:32:45.260 by smearing their reputations and uh working with the media to like proliferate those smears

00:32:50.600 to just villainize uh people like us or people who have the wrong politics um so it's interesting

00:32:58.860 that he was wrongfully concerned about what did he specifically do he he he did he did he kind of

00:33:05.580 discredit barbara perry like what was his yeah basically just called her racist just basically

00:33:10.340 called her racist and how disgusting it was to listen to her talk in the pre-trial it was horrible

00:33:15.980 the judge the sheriffs everybody in there according to barbara perry is racist and it 0.68

00:33:22.280 got so bad that the judge told we have transcripts of this yeah it's going to be in the crown strips

00:33:27.080 yes if they were ordered they'll be there pre-trial when will they be available i'm working

00:33:32.840 on it and betty's listening to you there's a lot of people working on trying to get uh transcripts

00:33:38.600 the economical way to do it all that kind of stuff because i mean if there's anyone who who

00:33:43.660 did appreciate the apology from the judge it'd be barbara it's like thank you so much

00:33:47.860 for giving non-binary language that's exactly what we need we avoided violence today right

00:33:53.800 god right but after she was doing things like if you're christian you're racist extremist if you

00:34:01.780 if you're against the government in any way that means the entire opposition party you're racist

00:34:07.560 like her checklist for being racist wasn't you didn't have to hit five items and then you're 0.57

00:34:12.960 racist you have to hit any or all the threshold is pretty pretty low uh have white skin right

00:34:17.700 done you're racist yep so the judge did say to the crown you may want to reconsider this witness 0.93

00:34:24.120 and he mentioned it twice yeah and he mentioned it twice before she said all this you know anti-white 0.80

00:34:31.300 stuff on trial or it was after it wasn't on trial it was pre-trial so whether or not she could be a

00:34:36.940 witness was being challenged okay so the crown wanted to bring her as an expert witness and the 0.97

00:34:43.720 defense is like she's not an expert she's a racist so she was a witness as some overweight woman

00:34:49.220 like with their cats somewhere that's how she's a witness she's a witness like how is she a witness 0.99

00:34:54.360 because she has because she did white people being evil because they gave her an expert right

00:35:01.940 this is correct and that's the problem that right right and that's why it was argued because she

00:35:07.840 was given a copy of like the phone data and stuff like that and then she was supposed to create a

00:35:11.820 report to say how she can prove that these gentlemen are racist turns out her report

00:35:16.820 totally let chris carbert off the hook because there's like no text messages where chris is

00:35:21.240 doing anything like you're going to be blown away that the evidence for chris was so

00:35:25.260 are we still live wow that was weird i've never had we're back i've never had my browser do that

00:35:44.900 before i must be treading on some some some territory here um where do we leave off here

00:35:51.460 no surprise uh we were talking about how um she's an expert she has cats she's a little bit 0.65

00:35:58.780 overweight she's a donut expert no she's uh no uh we were talking we're talking about oh right

00:36:04.100 chris carver yeah yeah yeah if i'm not mistaken he was somebody charged and like he wasn't even

00:36:10.660 there or something right this is what we found during the trial the yeah we're jumping around

00:36:16.680 a little bit but this is fun um so the undercover manager who spoke to and debriefed the undercovers

00:36:23.420 he created daily debriefs and notes and then he created a report or a summary for his higher-ups

00:36:30.720 working with just that his notes and his report to the higher-ups chris carver wasn't part of

00:36:37.500 these conversations only tony it was after trial time all this kind of stuff getting close to trial

00:36:43.980 prepping for trial all of a sudden this narrative popped up that's not in the notes that chris was

00:36:49.020 part of these conversations all of a sudden so that that did happen we saw that so i mean is is

00:36:57.040 that some sort of fraud when they kind of like insert oh yeah and chris was in this this group

00:37:01.440 chat too when he he wasn't like what like what what what is that is that not fraudulent is that

00:37:06.020 not something nefarious that needs to be addressed what that is are excellent questions that need to

00:37:12.820 be answered correct absolutely there's a lot that came out during the trial uh didn't match the

00:37:19.900 evidence testimony change especially around the undercovers and uh because a lion's share of the

00:37:27.100 culpability for the men were based on what the undercover said it wasn't messages really pulled

00:37:32.600 off their phones there wasn't phone calls all the really nasty stuff isn't verbalized anywhere

00:37:38.180 except for by the undercover operatives no recording according to them they all testified

00:37:42.640 that they didn't have recording devices all three testified to that really yeah big

00:37:46.340 really really so these are the known known undercover rcmp people correct and like that

00:37:55.100 like this this is a thing like hi i was working undercover for the rcmp and i and i i have no

00:38:00.180 recordings i didn't record anything really so they say yep wasn't wasn't part of the i remember

00:38:07.240 hearing like way back like way back at the beginning of this that they did have a recording

00:38:12.040 of you know one of the guys saying something nefarious or bad and and like so that ended up

00:38:18.000 not being true there wasn't any sort of like like phone clip or audio clip that they were using

00:38:22.280 against these guys initially okay so there's one and i think it's called intercept 139 so 139 of

00:38:29.960 all the intercepts they did where it sounds like tony is talking in code about bringing more stuff

00:38:35.080 there so so what is the intercept though where did this capture it's a phone call between

00:38:41.400 yeah phone call between tony and another gentleman named kyle mohan i think it was

00:38:45.880 um and if you listen to that access to this that guy who got the crime fraud envelope that

00:38:51.560 officer who screwed up um and provided the disclosure when it should have been redacted

00:38:56.440 that officer had the power to do what's called the 1844 warrant under the criminal code which is an

00:39:02.920 an intimate harm one it basically means we don't have time to go talk to a judge so we're going to

00:39:08.020 implement a warrant which is an intercept of communications a wiretap warrant and they can

00:39:12.880 initiate that based on what they call intimate harm without a judge and that's what they did

00:39:17.260 so the joke that all of our phone calls are tapped is like not really even a joke it's kind of

00:39:22.500 accurate dude we're just getting started like there's there's a more to that particular issue

00:39:29.100 that you're highlighting there or whether or not they're always listening wow so it's not a meme

00:39:32.460 guys it's kind of it's kind of real it's kind of a real thing our phones are probably tapped

00:39:36.840 good to know uh i i could have i've always assumed it as a joke so i you know i you know haha it's

00:39:44.180 just a joke thesis but now it's like uh i i guess i i feel like maybe i'm not a schizo maybe

00:39:49.520 well this is just crazy okay i can't tell you where i got this next piece of information but

00:39:55.380 i can tell you i have this piece of information there's some information in one of the itos

00:40:00.180 that the police could not have had legally the date of it is february 2nd the intercept was put

00:40:06.740 in on the 9th or the 10th so it means because they ended up having it it means either one

00:40:14.340 they violated the warrant and went into the phone it's an intercept warrant which means they can

00:40:20.420 intercept your messages but they can't enter your phone so any phone calls or text messages that you

00:40:25.220 send they can intercept what about so either they what about like a whatsapp call that is not through

00:40:30.260 um like yeah they can't get it okay so it's encrypted yeah it's encrypted it's more secure

00:40:36.420 good to know uh not that i'm doing anything illegal but like come on it's this is a nice

00:40:42.140 kind of like comforting thing to know that i'm not being listened to by some rcmp officer giving

00:40:47.260 them no let's let's be clear you're likely listened to whether or not it's admissible

00:40:51.660 evidence in court different question okay okay couldn't they just bug the can they bug the phone

00:40:56.900 to just like you know have the microphone on anyway could potentially oh yeah yeah yeah uh

00:41:02.600 there's a project project there's a project out there i can't remember the name off the top of my

00:41:06.040 head but it exists the second option is uh it's just totally running wild right now so it should

00:41:12.480 because they had they had a no problem uh you're not sleeping today they had a uh they had a message

00:41:20.000 from february 2nd that they shouldn't have had um so either a they were intercepting everybody's

00:41:25.800 messages on or before february 2nd so everybody's messages that were down there using the cell tower

00:41:31.400 they could have been intercepting wow and on now there is there is testimony in court by chris

00:41:38.020 carbert that they witnessed um rcmp mucking around with one of the cell phone towers down there with

00:41:45.620 a provider so like telus or something like that also there so there's testimony about that uh so

00:41:51.740 they could have been intercepting everybody's doesn't make it admissible okay it doesn't make

00:41:55.760 it admissible but it doesn't mean like allowed and legal right okay okay uh and then the second

00:42:03.380 one was or they got into phones and then actually looked at older messages because they're not

00:42:08.920 intercepted but they got it because they ended up with a message from february 2nd put it into an

00:42:14.840 ito before they had the warrants so how did you get that message before they had the phone so

00:42:23.100 there's only one way well there's two ways intercepting everybody or you went into the

00:42:27.720 phone illegally in either case they kind of screwed up the person that wrote the ito

00:42:31.980 was using all information available to them and one of the pieces wasn't supposed to be used

00:42:36.820 because it's not admissible it's not legal so we have that information so so where are we at here

00:42:43.040 in terms of like rcmp strikes from the crown in terms of like strikes as in like things that were

00:42:48.180 unlawful unlawful that the rcmp or the crown prosecutor uh did in this case like because is

00:42:54.560 that one of them is that something that's technically um yes malfeasance what do you

00:43:00.580 what's what's is there a legal term for this charter violation completely illegal to our

00:43:05.180 highest laws yeah all of the above um so in addition to that there's the crime fraud there's

00:43:11.140 excavators that they damaged private property on private property they don't even hide that

00:43:15.760 they're blatant about that one um they brag about it um so that was a criminal mischief of over

00:43:21.840 five thousand dollars this is what the rcmp did they destroyed that was february 12th they

00:43:28.380 destroyed someone's private property this was the day that the emergencies act was was enacted then

00:43:33.600 no so this was february 12th the day before two days before two days uh emergency act was

00:43:39.300 valentine's day february 14th my birthday by the way so i remember it clearly um february 12th is

00:43:46.160 when they provoked by damaging the excavators they didn't get the response that they wanted but

00:43:51.400 yeah they went on private onto private property damaged private property they didn't and they

00:43:56.420 admitted on the stand this was during pre-trial no lawful warrant and no lawful authorization and

00:44:02.460 this was repeated again in the trial by a superintendent covert they had no approval

00:44:07.560 to do that no lawful authority to do it but they did it so there's that one there's um violation of

00:44:13.780 the search itself the searches themselves are deemed to be illegal by the judge so both warrants

00:44:19.460 got thrown out because they were both illegal so those were no good um but during the search

00:44:24.280 themselves they were violating the procedures all over the place um the urge team emergency response

00:44:30.360 team that's supposed to clear the room so that the search people that can come in and start taking

00:44:34.660 their pictures the earth team was moving stuff around and planting and staging things so they

00:44:41.320 took stuff around the house put it together on a bed and when the search team comes in it's like

00:44:45.560 oh look they're all ready to go so how do we know that that the earth team was doing this they

00:44:51.660 testified to it they testified to it they also testified they made mistakes they shouldn't have

00:44:58.640 moved it they should have let them take a picture first they testified to bringing pizza walked

00:45:03.380 around eating pizza during the search it's a crime scene you're not allowed to do that it's

00:45:07.440 against the rules they testified to it and so tell me why this is uh like what were they moving

00:45:14.620 around what were they what were they doing okay so one example that we'll just you'll get it when

00:45:18.720 i tell you this so chris had a firearm under his bed uh he had in his in his closet he had a

00:45:26.860 knapsack with ammo and what they did was they took the firearm which was not with the ammo

00:45:31.620 put it on the bed put it with the ammo put it with a sticker that said fringe minority or

00:45:36.780 something like that and that's how the search team found it but that was done by the urch team

00:45:41.760 so when you walk in that's so tacky hey there's a gun here's the dude they put the wrong caliber

00:45:51.380 wrong caliber wrong caliber man and they disrespected gun owners on top of that

00:45:58.600 and that's just one example they did that in a few places uh tony's property search there's

00:46:04.160 memorabilia from world war ii missing his dad was in world war ii there's memorabilia missing

00:46:09.180 why is it missing because they left the 50 caliber ammo so he's had some empty 50 caliber

00:46:15.580 souvenirs they left that to show the jury look they have 50 caliber too that's huge it's like

00:46:21.720 tank stuff but they don't show the rest of the world war ii memorabilia that it was found with

00:46:27.280 uh but the rest of that memorabilia is gone it's gone it's nowhere to be found this is just this

00:46:33.520 is just validating everything i've heard about these the uh you know all the worst possible

00:46:38.820 things you could imagine about the rcmp is the urt team part of the rcmp yes the emergency response

00:46:44.200 team they're kind of like swat their job is to go in there heavy-handed it was the urt team set up

00:46:49.400 the worst possible photo op for their political enemies so in coots joint joanne well maybe just

00:46:56.560 a couple like maybe there's a couple bad seeds here joanne person's property in coots staging

00:47:01.800 uh tony's property in staveley alberta which is 200 kilometers away staging uh willful destruction

00:47:09.960 of private property mischief over 5 000 it was the earth team this is all testimony from them

00:47:14.360 they did that like anytime earth teams involved something weird's going on that shouldn't be

00:47:19.900 happening so let's get let's get into the diagonal on stuff and that that infamous photo that infamous

00:47:24.860 photo of look at this stockpile of weapons uh how did that photo come to be is it related to

00:47:32.660 this earth stuff it didn't make it to the trial that photo no nothing in that photo

00:47:39.020 was involved in the trial no no no let's be clear the picture was not involved in the trial

00:47:45.140 six of the firearms in that photo is attributed to three of the men in the trailer two each for

00:47:52.520 carbert tony and chris slice sick chris carbert he had a 223 panther arms something it's a

00:48:01.900 prohibited weapon uh but it is a semi-automatic 223 he had that we'll get to that in a second

00:48:07.400 if it's prohibited does that mean it's a completely illegal it's not just a restricted

00:48:12.360 uh firearm it's like a like not okay to even have it all or or is it so the order in council

00:48:18.520 from trudeau he made this really long list it's not even past law it's just an order in council

00:48:23.680 that made a prohibited firearms list it's basically anything that looks like ar style

00:48:28.500 ar at all okay so it recently became illegal is that fair relatively recently yeah it hasn't

00:48:35.220 become illegal illegal it's on a prohibited list uh if you owned it i'm sorry for all the gun

00:48:40.020 owners watching oh this guy doesn't know anything i i'm i'm a beginner here okay i'm still learning

00:48:44.280 Yeah. At the end of the day, Chris shouldn't have had it because he actually also has a prohibition to not own restricted and prohibited firearms.

00:48:53.200 He's allowed to have non-restricted, but he has a prohibition for life not to touch the other ones.

00:48:58.180 He shouldn't have had it. There is a whole story around whether or not he knew it was a prohibited firearm when he purchased it.

00:49:05.440 There's a story there, but he's doing his time for that one. I guarantee you that.

00:49:09.880 the other one he had was a non-restricted mcr semi-automatic 223 as well so non-restricted

00:49:17.860 totally legal and he had his pal totally legal and totally legal to have two with him it's

00:49:22.940 non-restricted he's allowed to those are the only two that chris had tony had a lever action 22

00:49:30.960 rimfire 22 lever action and he had a 12 gauge shotgun with no shells there were no shells

00:49:39.860 found in the trailer so tony had a 22 and no shells super violent and dangerous right uh chris

00:49:46.620 lysic had an mcr similar to chris uh carbert's mcr which is a 223 and he also had a 45

00:49:53.980 handgun which was restricted and that's the restricted handgun that he should not have had

00:49:59.540 there and that's what he took his plea on that was all the firearms in that trailer the other

00:50:05.100 nine firearms on that table in that photograph other people's okay wow thanks for that summary

00:50:12.020 so let's talk about the diagonal patch so the diagonal patch first the word diagonal was not

00:50:19.260 said during the trial uh the the crown made a decision and this is after the hate gate article

00:50:25.860 came out the crown made a decision to not go ahead with that narrative of diagonal anymore

00:50:31.280 hold on so hate gate came out around a year ago if i'm not mistaken correct so in the middle of

00:50:39.940 all of this so at the beginning those itos that we spoke about diagonal is every third word in

00:50:45.540 there death is every third word and this is all before the trial even started correct that's what

00:50:52.340 they they lost their bail applications on was that that's what they lost their bail applications on

00:50:58.660 they lost all four men applied for bail and they lost it based on the diagonal narrative

00:51:03.700 right so canadian anti-hate network document was provided by the crown to the to the justices

00:51:10.300 because there's two different justices that did the bail for the four men and um vice media article

00:51:15.800 was provided as proof that diagonal is dangerous all that kind of stuff and that was used to tie

00:51:21.860 these men to a nationwide terrorist organization domestic and that's why they were so dangerous

00:51:27.980 they had to be denied bail uh those are the two documents that were used wow vice article

00:51:33.840 anti-hate article and and this kind of like non-specific belief that diagonalon is a violent

00:51:40.980 militia correct and that was used early and that was part of the itos that's what at least whoever

00:51:47.300 wrote it believed and that's what the judges who denied bail believed they believed that these

00:51:52.020 were dangerous men there were thousands of people willing to take over the government and storm the

00:51:56.480 government and these were just some of them that's what he believed i want to take a moment to uh

00:52:01.820 to thank you jason for for following this story and documenting all of this and learning about it

00:52:09.300 and and yeah no i i really appreciate this because if it weren't for people like you

00:52:14.140 actually documenting what's going on uh then these these corrupt you wouldn't know this

00:52:21.460 other efforts would be getting away with this um so i i yeah i really really appreciate um

00:52:27.320 you doing the right thing and uh great i appreciate that it wasn't easy there was there

00:52:35.180 was times where you know certain members of the coots for relatives reached out to me and told

00:52:41.000 me about like egregious things happening and i felt bad because it's like i don't know the laws

00:52:49.100 there's a publication ban i want to talk about this i don't know how to talk about this i don't

00:52:53.420 know anything about the law i'm also over in ontario so that doesn't help either and um

00:52:59.340 you know i'm i'm also you know friends are getting thrown in jail and stuff so i'm like i don't even

00:53:04.800 you know it's it's uh so i and i i felt some guilt at the time of like man i you know these guys are

00:53:10.640 rotting in prison and uh you know i didn't follow up with this person or that person so i appreciate

00:53:16.440 that there that was there's someone like you out there who who was uh you know on top of all of

00:53:22.120 this that that means a lot coming from you and um it wasn't easy it wasn't easy but i i was there

00:53:28.900 because i was covering the poec public order emergency commission in 2022 and that was the

00:53:34.080 first time i got introduced to diagonon or jeremy oh is that right somebody somebody reached out to

00:53:39.440 me and he says uh i have this friend and he's kind of running from the police there's a warrant for

00:53:44.200 him nationwide warrant what should he do i'm like uh turn himself in it's there's really no other

00:53:49.960 option like the sooner you start addressing it the sooner it's going to be dealt with and i had

00:53:53.800 no idea who he was what the charges were it was just somebody reached out and said what do you

00:53:58.480 think you should do is to turn himself in um then i saw him in the trial you know the poec when he

00:54:04.300 was in saskatoon they had him in jail they did that perp cam thing on him and that's when i really 0.67

00:54:09.380 started to learn a little bit more about diagonal and then i watched the poec i heard about coots

00:54:15.140 there was a bunch of in-camera stuff that we didn't get to see it was done in private in camera

00:54:19.820 stuff so in camera means private so when it comes to court or hearings when they say in camera that

00:54:26.780 actually means no camera because they're doing it behind closed doors yeah so that raised a big

00:54:32.940 flag and then uh rulo's report was i believe diagonal was dangerous and i believe everything

00:54:38.560 i heard in the in-camera stuff like oh dude we got to find out what's going on sorry who is saying

00:54:43.480 this i believe everything rouleau rouleau the commissioner from the public order emergency

00:54:48.680 commission right okay him his report that came out yeah his report is like diagonals real the

00:54:55.440 danger was real everything was justified this was the conclusion of the poec his conclusion

00:55:02.000 correct which was like a final verdict of like the weeks and weeks long thing part of that

00:55:07.420 conclusion of justifying the emergencies act was oh yeah no diagonal is legit terrifying there like

00:55:13.220 it's it's legitimately scary correct his report said he doesn't believe jeremy a single word he

00:55:19.340 said he believes the things we were told in camera and everything he was told in camera is what i'm

00:55:24.400 repeating to you now that came out in the trial which is the vice article and the anti-hate article

00:55:28.860 Correct, correct, correct.

00:55:32.180 So, finishing up and putting a bow in this Diagon Coutts situation.

00:55:36.880 So, the Crown decided after the hate gate,

00:55:40.320 because it got argued during Chris Carbert's bail hearing December 2023.

00:55:46.020 So, in that bail hearing, it was brought up, this hate gate thing.

00:55:50.460 And at that point on, this whole narrative about Diagon just vanished out of the Coutts trial.

00:55:56.560 It evaporated overnight, eh? Wow.

00:55:57.920 um yeah to the point where the crown did say without the jury there we will not be bringing

00:56:04.200 the term diagonal up because if they do then they have to explain what it is and then if they do

00:56:10.980 the defense gets to now also tell the jury what it is so the crown made a decision to just keep

00:56:16.580 diagonal off the table the closest they got was the patch and they just said like and it has a

00:56:22.560 patch and they kind of just moved on they didn't even call it a diagonal patch or anything

00:56:27.160 which is good but what we also saw during the trial is all four phones the list of interested

00:56:34.580 parties that the police were looking for all of them included jeremy mckenzie so the regular all

00:56:41.020 four phones these are the phone all four like phones of the men okay yeah all four of them the

00:56:48.720 rcmp had a list of what we're looking for that's part of their searching of it and part of that

00:56:55.620 list are interested parties so obviously the other three men were listed on each of their phones so

00:57:01.700 tony had chris chris and jerry on his list but all four of them had jeremy mckenzie on it they also

00:57:07.940 all had pastor arthur peloski too for some reason but they all had jeremy mckenzie on them all four

00:57:14.140 reports that came out of the rcmp zero uh zero nothing came out no text with jeremy no messages

00:57:22.380 no nothing they found zero on all four phones related to jeremy mckenzie that includes lysix

00:57:27.960 phone uh same with uh same with arthur provolski i'm guessing like do they also

00:57:34.120 yeah zero messages from arthur provolski picturing an rcmp okay let's add the k what's his number

00:57:39.960 okay jeremy mckenzie oh oh wait hey look we just found jeremy mckenzie on this phone

00:57:45.020 wow they all got it on here good job guys let's have a beer disgusting yeah no it was embarrassing

00:57:51.880 like i when i was watching it i'm like what greg i gotta tell you i walked in there with at least

00:57:58.280 i walked in there hoping that the rcmp is there to protect us on some level maybe from foreign or

00:58:05.080 other things and i was hoping that there is some degree of competency amongst the rcmp i no longer

00:58:12.440 feel that way after this trial um i'm actually worried as a canadian on whether or not we are

00:58:19.400 sufficiently protected with the rcmp because the incompetency the lying um eating pizza destroying

00:58:26.640 property uh the perjury according to them not recording these interactions with the undercover 0.90

00:58:32.040 operatives like all of this stuff makes me go i absolutely want more protection and it sucks it

00:58:39.160 paints a picture that they are so integral and just working together with with the media with

00:58:47.220 anti-hate with like you know it's like it's almost like they're all like on the same group

00:58:50.740 call or same group chat i don't know just you know put them in the phone like just add it to

00:58:54.700 the phone say make it part of the evidence just like like make it fit the narrative um yeah by

00:59:00.840 the way that happened what you just said there did happen confirmed or i guess there they found

00:59:07.360 a picture on tony's phone they found it in the cache so if you're technical at all you understand

00:59:12.820 that the cache is temporary storage when you're browsing a web page it will put it into the cache

00:59:18.260 it's stowed away cache storage yeah it's hard to find storage on your phone that's kind of like

00:59:24.360 that the computer uses and and yeah it's kind of in the background but it's there

00:59:27.940 exactly so if you want to keep a picture you download it and it goes into your gallery or

00:59:33.980 somewhere else on your device they found a picture in his cache which was a guitar case with guns in

00:59:39.060 it it's important to note there was no guitar case in the evidence and the guns in this particular

00:59:44.920 picture are not the same ones that were in evidence so it's just a random picture of a

00:59:49.300 guitar case with guns in it they found that on tony's phone in his cache they found this well

00:59:55.480 after the arrest because they didn't have tony's phone until after until the arrest so they found

00:59:59.860 this well after the arrest however undocumented not in notes but only came out during after the

01:00:07.520 men were arrested the undercover operative said that chris said remember their notes didn't have

01:00:13.060 chris involved undercover operative said that chris said yeah in a recording or like like what's

01:00:20.220 no recording it's just what they're saying now that chris said that hey should we bring them in

01:00:27.340 like last time in a guitar case so according to the undercover operatives during coot so pre-arrest

01:00:35.080 chris made this statement on february 10th according to the undercover operatives and

01:00:39.860 the timing is really important here according to the undercover operatives when jerry left milk

01:00:44.400 river with a cache of guns this is their testimony heading down to coods to transfer the guns to

01:00:49.860 chris and tony while he was driving down the back roads chris had this brilliant idea and

01:00:56.020 bounced it off of tony about putting guns into guitar cases no it doesn't fit logic no it doesn't

01:01:02.700 reason like is jerry going to pull over and stuff a bunch of stuff into guitar cases that he doesn't

01:01:06.940 have like makes no sense that this comment was made it only makes sense when you realize after

01:01:12.740 arrest in tony's cache they found a picture of guitar case with guns in it and also if you

01:01:19.480 realize that the notes did not have chris talking about any of this stuff before but all of a sudden

01:01:24.700 there's now this narrative where chris is talking about a guitar case smuggling guns like we did

01:01:28.980 before with tony in front of the undercovers well that that connects them completely to all

01:01:33.900 of this that one picture right that we found on tony's phone that they didn't know until after

01:01:38.160 his arrest so when you're talking about editing that's exactly what happened so after they found

01:01:44.340 that picture during the forensics portion of their investigation like oh look what we found

01:01:48.980 if only one of them mentioned that oh look at that if only it was chris because we don't have

01:01:54.800 anything on him if only it actually corroborates the undercover operatives so they are saying here

01:02:00.320 on the 10th they make this statement and then they find a picture later that corroborates their

01:02:03.900 statement doesn't it so how long later did they make this statement of saying oh no yeah yeah

01:02:09.920 chris said that uh a guitar case he mentioned after chris's second second bail hearing so his

01:02:17.180 first bail hearing they got disclosure no notes about chris from the undercover operatives

01:02:22.180 he loses because they got the anti-hate network and they got the vice media stuff he loses

01:02:27.400 he does another bail hearing gets a different lawyer gets a different disclosure gets what's

01:02:31.500 in there now new notes that say chris was part of these conversations why wouldn't the notes 0.92

01:02:37.940 be presented earlier on when the initial bail hearing was denied you're not a dumb guy right 0.63

01:02:44.300 you're not a dumb guy so chris has both packages one pre one post the post one now has him involved 0.69

01:02:51.260 the pre had him not involved sorry sorry sorry one pre package what like what's a package what

01:02:58.040 do you mean disclosure disclosure okay yeah so when you get your defense lawyer he goes and

01:03:04.360 requests disclosure he receives it from crown so his first bail lawyer did that that package

01:03:09.880 did not have chris as part of those conversations he loses his bail hearing he gets a new lawyer

01:03:15.920 the new lawyer makes a new request gets a new disclosure package from the crown suddenly

01:03:21.320 there's notes from undercover operatives that added chris to the conversations

01:03:25.380 wow wow that much we know but if you believe chris like if you talk to him and believe him

01:03:32.880 and if you meet people from his family like betty carbert who's hanging out with us right now

01:03:36.540 you know that these are honest people and good people and when he says i didn't i didn't say

01:03:41.600 this i believe him so when i'm using that kind of bias and it's a bias i'll admit it i'm looking at

01:03:47.900 this in a different way like how why would chris say while while jerry's driving from milk river

01:03:54.020 down to coots hey suddenly let's change the packaging of the the firearms like that makes

01:03:58.720 no sense and like we did before there was no other attempt even according to the police to

01:04:04.340 bring in firearms like they did before there was no guitar case there was no firearms from that

01:04:09.460 picture there like none of this adds up unless you look at it retroactively they found a picture

01:04:15.200 went back modified some of their notes spiced it up it adds a lot of credibility to the undercover

01:04:21.100 operatives if on february 10th they say chris is talking about a guitar case with guns and then

01:04:26.980 after arrest march april may later in the year they find a picture that looks like that right

01:04:32.060 in front of a jury doesn't that look like corroboration the undercovers must be telling

01:04:35.640 the truth that's what i think happened here because there was no notes about this guitar case

01:04:40.920 in the first version of disclosure and assuming this is a total lie what is the what is the what

01:04:47.780 is the crime for inventing evidence a whole bunch there's tampering there's perjury yeah there's

01:04:54.680 uh obstruction of justice there's a whole bunch are you guys listening rcmp are you listening to

01:04:59.280 this they're half my viewers of course they are yeah um wow there's a lot so to ask answer your

01:05:07.280 actually i'm working on two questions from you now uh what were the illegal things and then what

01:05:11.360 was the diagonal thing so wrapping up the diagonal one they found nothing with jeremy they didn't

01:05:16.360 bring it into the trial they didn't even call it a diagonal patch to the jury that was never put to

01:05:21.920 the jury it wasn't real and i think that also helped demolish that narrative forever after

01:05:29.360 that part happened in the trial where they didn't bring forward diagon the patch the narrative

01:05:34.420 jeremy didn't find anything from that point on that entire narrative that there was some sort

01:05:39.860 of collaboration or working together it's false that never happened so cbc owes a bunch of

01:05:47.080 apologies ezra owes a bunch of apologies because for two years and i've been sued by him over this

01:05:52.860 for two years ezra was saying this about jeremy and it's been false the entire time what was i

01:05:58.240 know that ezra called him a fed at one point what else was he saying uh that like that he

01:06:03.460 was getting credibility to the to the spooky terrorism uh narrative is that right or yeah

01:06:09.300 you can go back to a lot of his stuff and don't worry we've got copies of this uh many times

01:06:13.580 Ezra said, I have a hundred pages that people can't see that shows it as proof. Those hundred

01:06:19.780 pages he's talking about are the ITOs. Okay. That's what he's talking about. And I originally

01:06:25.240 said that Ezra got those improperly because he hired lawyers and the lawyers gave it to him.

01:06:31.880 That was a mistake. That's not true. I was fed that information, maybe by some of the same people

01:06:36.880 that have been calling you to talk about this stuff, but that was not true. Ezra sued me over

01:06:41.980 that statement and then he provided the receipt from the court where you for time for a period of

01:06:47.220 time you could order the itos the court would have given you a copy he produced that receipt i'm like

01:06:52.940 okay sorry i messed that up that's a mistake and now i retracted it assuming for something else

01:06:58.500 now but that one he withdrew he withdrew the lawsuit for the second lawsuit was for talking

01:07:03.900 about um there's a uk rebel employee who got fired or left he was secretly recorded him i've seen the

01:07:11.260 video and yeah that video and you shared that video no i talked about it i didn't even share

01:07:17.360 it or play it wow that's what the second lawsuit's for 150 000 amazing i'm working on it i'm working

01:07:25.400 on it i mean i guess i guess hi to the rebel news employee who's also obligated to watch this

01:07:30.180 as well uh oh anti-hate network rebel news csis rcmp do we have here is this just like is this

01:07:38.280 just an opportunity it's my wife when i come on your show jason what the hell is this is the trap

01:07:44.080 i don't know according to a lot of people i'm a fed i'm an operative i'm i'm you know you've

01:07:51.240 you've heard it all before all right so now we're wrapping up three narratives here okay there was

01:07:55.460 what was illegal by everybody involved jeremy and diagonal and now kind of this thing about the

01:08:02.420 narrative that the media was using on jeremy that media narrative should now be done and

01:08:08.020 dusted and completely dead there was no proof there never was proof the diagonal had anything

01:08:14.580 to do with what was going on coots or ottawa or otherwise so that should be done and dusted

01:08:19.440 for the jeremy bow i witnessed it there was no evidence brought forward in front of that jury

01:08:25.760 that said jeremy diagonal connection dangerous extremist nothing that wasn't there so they're

01:08:32.680 off the table and then to put a bow on the police side of things the crown side indicated

01:08:37.640 yeah vindicated that should be done like and also that pitcher should they should stop using it

01:08:43.200 only six out of the 15 were these men what was the patch like a genuine patch from one of the guys

01:08:49.380 yeah yeah i i know the person that gave it to lysic okay uh there was a whole bunch of patches

01:08:55.460 being handed out in pairs and they were anybody that was interested in and friendly and wanted it

01:09:01.080 it was a yeah it's probably somebody you know and one day i'm sure he'll come out and tell you but

01:09:05.640 uh no there was a friendly there and he was just handing out patches as pairs uh chris harbert

01:09:10.640 received one too he just never put it on his vest it was sitting on his table uh when he got searched

01:09:15.380 in his bedroom there was a patch on the table sure again it didn't make it in front of the jury

01:09:20.320 because that narrative was was killed by a canadian anti-hate not canadian uh hate gate it was killed

01:09:25.340 by the hate gate shout out to kareem isad for for her work on that and alissa as well alissa

01:09:31.440 somebody yeah she's she's forgotten a lot about it uh but she is a hard worker she's a very honest

01:09:36.720 person and i gotta thank her because um the same group that caused a lot of headaches and you know

01:09:42.220 who we're talking about um they came up with a recent one that diet that donald best is uh grand

01:09:49.240 bristro i'm sure maybe you've seen some of that by now uh i've heard a little bit about it like

01:09:54.960 they're saying he's the exact same guy no yeah they're saying he is him he is grant yeah they

01:10:01.620 put his pictures together and they're morphing the pictures in such a way and all right anyways

01:10:06.580 elissa she came out nobody even knew about this she just came out and posted online i know grant

01:10:13.060 i i'm part of that whole story i was there when they started that whole thing donald is not grant

01:10:18.320 she came and put that out and she received a ton of heat over it and she reached out to me

01:10:24.040 we chatted for a bit she's an amazing person i i want to give her a lot of props and she's

01:10:29.840 usually forgotten about when hate gate is talked about she's been through a lot yeah she's been

01:10:34.760 through a lot um crazy it's complicated so well i mean just to jump in real quick because because

01:10:43.580 we're kind of alluding to these troublemakers or these misinformation agents or like these

01:10:49.380 subversive people who are showing up and saying oh no you're a fed you're a fed don't believe this

01:10:53.100 that's actually grant bristow and it's like you know where do these people come from where these

01:10:56.780 people you were on with uh uh arter earlier arter and he's he was kind of alluding to this at one

01:11:03.360 point of uh you know these people uh i think he said he's been approached by him yeah and i think

01:11:09.540 he said something which is like a good takeaway which is uh you know you need to pay attention

01:11:13.200 to people who are doing stuff and not just the people who are talking there's a lot of people

01:11:17.140 who like to talk and say this and gossip and say you know it's it's i almost want to like just to

01:11:22.860 give people a strong visual maybe we've heard of rachel gilmore you know rachel gilmore is someone

01:11:28.820 who yaps and she says well this person's awful and they're totally off and you know she and she's

01:11:34.540 causing people to to to you know ruin their reputation or push on the side as a bad person

01:11:41.020 just imagine that some of these other people some of these other misinformation agents are like

01:11:45.420 a version of uh rachel gilmore like like they're just doing it in their own way just like i don't

01:11:50.740 this is what i heard blah blah blah blah and it's like just like rachel gilmore when you watch one

01:11:54.740 of her false tiktoks and you look into it it's like this is a total misrepresentation of the

01:11:58.660 facts this person is muddying the waters and then pay attention and look at these when there's these

01:12:03.820 other wild accusations treat them like rachel gilmore like you know is this stuff actually

01:12:09.080 founded maybe this stuff maybe i want to believe because that's that's another thing like rachel

01:12:14.500 gilmore is successful anti-hate is successful these far leftists are successful because it

01:12:20.660 actually feels good to jump on the bandwagon and hate people like like that's why that's why it

01:12:27.000 works it's like oh it's easy like yeah let's just hate on this person let's hate on this right-wing

01:12:30.820 person they're a nazi whatever like there's a psychological uh appetite that people have

01:12:36.940 unfortunately to like join the mob and just start hating somebody and it also happens in our smaller

01:12:42.120 communities it happens in the same way it's like it's it's easier for people to um instead of

01:12:48.200 accepting how terrible the situation is and how corrupt these different institutions are rcmp to 0.95

01:12:52.780 pierre poly have all these kind of hopes we have let me just actually shit on jeremy mckenzie and 0.84

01:12:57.800 like actually make him him the worst possible villain in the situation let me actually just 0.99

01:13:01.320 shit on jason levine maybe yeah it's it's easy it feels good to like you know shit on the people 0.96

01:13:06.660 who are actually doing stuff um and yeah like i think that's part of it they're like they tap 0.99

01:13:13.000 into this sort of like psychological thing of just wanting to you know what all my angst all

01:13:17.740 my frustration with the country of canada instead of like directing it to like the major institutions

01:13:22.320 i'm going to direct it at this person over here who's actually doing something you know it's uh

01:13:28.260 it's awful but uh it's it's i'm sure you've mulled this over in your head and i'll finish my rant

01:13:34.540 here but um unfortunately it's easier to trick people than to convince them that they've been

01:13:43.140 tricked you know like it's easier to like tell a lie and like show this like shove misinformation

01:13:47.680 around to like sway people in one direction and it's harder to be like no no like that you know

01:13:52.780 jeremy isn't a fed this person isn't a fed like that was a lie like you know it's so much more

01:13:56.860 difficult to like unpack all of that or to like you know reverse this the these smears but uh

01:14:01.700 and then shout outs to the devil the great deceiver it works the same way evil works the

01:14:05.540 same way lying blah blah uh yeah that's the end of my rant but no and you're absolutely right and

01:14:11.520 And that's what Arthur was touching on today.

01:14:13.240 So we're talking about scoundrels in the mist because what happened with him

01:14:17.440 and I'm giving,

01:14:19.220 I'm working really hard not to give them any oxygen because it's been nasty

01:14:24.960 what's been going on.

01:14:26.020 But I walked out of the courtroom.

01:14:29.000 Arthur's walking out.

01:14:29.940 I didn't even know he was there.

01:14:31.140 We're all pretty focused on what we're doing.

01:14:32.540 I walk out.

01:14:32.960 I see Arthur.

01:14:33.480 Hey,

01:14:33.700 Arthur,

01:14:34.020 how are you doing?

01:14:34.760 Hug,

01:14:35.040 hug,

01:14:35.400 friend,

01:14:35.660 friend.

01:14:35.880 Nice,

01:14:36.300 nice.

01:14:37.420 At this moment of the trial,

01:14:39.160 i do not stick around in the hallway because of the drama that's been going on so i just leave

01:14:44.780 you know mike my way down going for lunch sure arthur comes out somebody grabs me downstairs

01:14:50.440 hey jason big fan talking to me for a bit i do that often down in the galley area or just outside

01:14:55.980 the door arthur comes this is like no more than five minutes ago i saw him upstairs now he's

01:15:00.160 downstairs and he comes up to me and just beelines right to me like jason we need to work on this

01:15:05.640 drama it's very destructive i'm like oh hi um because i didn't talk to him about any drama but

01:15:11.460 within the last moment i saw him to now someone did and i know exactly who did because he told me

01:15:17.820 um and this person came up to him and basically told him you gotta stay away from jason he's a

01:15:23.240 fed he's a controlled op uh he lies he's been hurting the families the families all are against

01:15:28.480 him i know this is true but this is what they're telling him so he comes down and he says look we

01:15:33.020 need to fix this i'm like i would love to he goes i'm a pastor i mediate i do this all the time i'm

01:15:38.320 very good at it i'm like i believe you yeah absolutely i get all that he goes can i mediate

01:15:43.240 this i'm like go for it but let me know let me tell you one thing you're the 12th person to do

01:15:48.560 that offer to mediate there's some really big names some of them you and i know who um offered

01:15:54.860 to do this already if you're successful i would be very impressed because they are hiding something

01:16:01.340 that they don't want to go public and they believe i'm going to go put it public and this is why

01:16:06.780 they're trying to silence me but i wish you nothing but the best please do your thing god bless you

01:16:12.760 he left he went for lunch went with that group and his intention and he talked about it on the show

01:16:18.040 today his intention was to uh mediate figure out if uh this could be fixed yeah get to the bottom

01:16:24.340 of things find out what the drama is about what's actually i knew i knew how this was going to turn

01:16:28.540 out because it turned out 12 other times exactly the same way which was the mediator coming back

01:16:33.140 saying sorry this one's untouchable um so he came back after lunch i saw him in the courtroom he's

01:16:39.600 sitting right behind me just before the judge comes in i turned to him like hey so how was your

01:16:43.240 lunch uh did it go well and he looks me straight into the eyes he goes snakes don't look in your

01:16:48.300 eyes i'm like oh yeah yeah i've noticed that too staring right in his eyes but yeah yeah no that

01:16:54.840 sucks it's horrible and then today he kind of expanded a little bit more yep snakes don't look 0.79

01:17:00.560 in the eyes wow yep they're like okay you told me everything the righteous authority of 0.96

01:17:07.880 pastor archer bablowski just um yeah and he sat behind me and we still talk and then what he

01:17:15.180 shared with us today was he was told to stay away from me or else they're going to cut him off and

01:17:19.880 all that kind of stuff um he shared that today and i mean i'm not looking forward to this jason

01:17:26.420 because i have a feeling i'm going to go on my facebook comment section twitter and i'm going

01:17:30.640 to be the new target of oh i i gave sympathy to he's part of the fed network confirmed guilty

01:17:36.420 oh no yeah yeah you're going to see a little bit of pushback anybody that comes on my show

01:17:41.100 when i announce people get yeah that happens i've had many guests reach out and say what's going on

01:17:46.700 here there's even a really good guy at some point he's going to come on again but he's quite

01:17:51.560 literally traumatized by what they did to him after he pulled me aside he said it was so toxic

01:17:56.480 that it really bothered him what they did to him after he came on my show um it's nasty but it's

01:18:02.800 starting to go away the trial's over um they're still trying to hold on to this fake uh grant

01:18:08.920 bristol thing so just search donald best grant bristol you'll see exactly who all these players

01:18:13.140 are um anybody watching you can do the exact same thing and um it's very public and it's also

01:18:19.740 they connect me with jerry or jeremy mckenzie too so it's jeremy me and donald they group us

01:18:26.640 together we are definitely feds we're doing all of this we don't have to go we don't go into their

01:18:33.640 delusional insane theories i'm i'm good i've seen enough of that i think yep um yeah i saw

01:18:39.600 I saw one recently that Archer

01:18:41.240 is part of it too or something.

01:18:44.560 Archer in what way?

01:18:46.740 Probably now

01:18:47.760 after his video today.

01:18:52.220 That's her MO. 0.92

01:18:53.400 They'll go and attack anybody.

01:18:55.680 Look, one day there's

01:18:57.340 maybe six people.

01:18:58.980 The devil knows no new tricks, they say.

01:18:59.760 The devil knows no new tricks.

01:19:01.600 They lie. They deceive.

01:19:03.620 That's all they do.

01:19:05.640 Snakes don't look in your eyes.

01:19:07.480 That should be on a t-shirt

01:19:08.800 with two eyes staring right at you um but yeah let's let's touch on uh on arthur do we cover

01:19:15.920 everything with coots pretty much yeah i think i've answered i think i've wrapped up all your

01:19:21.720 questions at this point there's a lot more but what are you curious about i can help with

01:19:29.140 uh if if it comes up we'll go back to it but i'm thinking of arthur right now and

01:19:34.860 i remember hearing do you know much about his trial and why he went to jail what he was charged

01:19:40.600 with like my understanding is very basic and i don't know if it's accurate he got charged with

01:19:45.980 some sort of charge having to do with like destroying infrastructure for delivering a

01:19:50.600 inciting mischief oh inciting mischief uh this was for delivering a sermon at coots

01:19:55.840 correct and he was found guilty and sentenced to 50 days he served more than that already so he

01:20:02.200 didn't have to go back in was there not some other charge though of uh some some larger charge of

01:20:07.220 destroying infrastructure or something like this i thought he got pinned with some other crazy charge

01:20:11.060 having to do with uh um no just got him on this morning he mentioned terrorism but terrorism wasn't

01:20:16.920 one of his charges but inciting mischief was and that's what he was found guilty on so this is for

01:20:22.920 delivering a sermon he didn't actually have any yeah yeah and if you listen to a sermon there's

01:20:27.600 no violent talk he's just calling the government pigs and you guys stand up to these is the loophole

01:20:33.100 like it's like inciting to commit mischief i.e encouraging people to go to the is that that's

01:20:38.420 the argument right yep yeah so his trial was basically it still continued after he was there

01:20:44.260 and there was talk about moving to edmonton so there was talk about moving the convoy or the

01:20:50.000 protest from coots from coots to edmonton and then it was after his sermon when absolutely nobody

01:20:56.620 wanted to move everybody stayed in coots so they're using all of that as uh counseling

01:21:02.620 incitement mischief yeah just and he got 50 days and he served more than that so he didn't have to

01:21:08.780 go back in like he was in remand for a while um what are your thoughts on uh oh yeah so saying

01:21:17.140 another charge this is my wife yeah so yeah yeah it's been a private chat stream have a kringle

01:21:25.200 said he couldn't run rule on that charge to stay because the defense had given notice of

01:21:30.080 constant challenge so yeah though it looks like he was charged with the defense act infrastructure

01:21:34.300 defense you know what they were trying to do there get precedence in alberta because that was a new

01:21:38.480 act but as you can see here the judge tossed it and pad you're really using ctv news to get this

01:21:44.000 information to us oh boy so i wasn't completely off the mark then there was some truth in in uh

01:21:49.640 yeah he wasn't convicted of it though yeah as we're seeing here yeah it wasn't convicted of it

01:21:53.920 here yeah but i think that's what he's calling terrorism so when he says terrorism and incitement

01:21:59.560 to mischief he might be calling this right terrorism right he wasn't charged with terrorism

01:22:03.980 though oh man um so i i want to ask by the way what's that i said thanks patch for getting that

01:22:12.560 information for us yeah thank you thank you uh didn't make me look like a um a dummy who doesn't

01:22:18.160 know what he's talking about um did uh so so after all of this i mean the dust is still settling um

01:22:25.140 i mean i i feel i feel i i do want to kind of give sympathy to the guys and i know some of

01:22:31.460 them like we're guilty of this that or the other but oh for sure and and i just like just to take

01:22:36.520 take us back to the convoy moment you know there was so much fear and uncertainty for people who

01:22:42.840 are unvaccinated or standing up for the unvaccinated at these protests and you know as we're seeing

01:22:49.180 now this sort of like fear or distrust with the actual police officers and federal police that

01:22:55.620 are supposed to protect us it's kind of clear that that fear like doesn't come out of nowhere

01:23:00.060 you know like this sort of distrust doesn't just like oh they're delusional like we throughout

01:23:05.580 this entire conversation it's become pretty clear that um the these these people have a political

01:23:11.960 agenda who knows what they might do as as it's been admitted if i'm not mistaken that they

01:23:18.640 destroyed private property to try and invoke some sort of response so i just like you know of course

01:23:26.080 i don't advocate for violence or anything like that but i do want to give like sympathy to

01:23:29.540 these men who are like afraid of what might happen next afraid what the rcmp might do next

01:23:35.080 um and like you know i'm not trying to like justify what they did or like co-sign any of

01:23:40.320 the things that are like illegal that they did however at the same time um yeah i don't know

01:23:45.240 it's just i just want to emphasize because because some people i think i saw donald best

01:23:49.180 kind of say like oh and like they messed it up for everybody and it's like i i don't i don't

01:23:53.320 really agree with that you know like although he's coming off friday to correct that he's coming

01:23:57.420 back on friday to correct that yeah i like i i understand where he's coming from but again it's

01:24:02.860 kind of like the blame game it's like it was a pretty kind of messed up thing like the the whole

01:24:07.220 protests the madness during the convoy across the country and uh like let's keep our eye on the ball

01:24:13.260 here okay like you know i don't know if i mentioned it this succinctly but who who did we find out

01:24:19.980 has been guilty like rcmp sounds like it's been guilty of a number of things and at least one

01:24:25.580 crown member too at least one looks very guilty too yeah so it's like you know what's the verdict

01:24:31.140 what's it we're in terms of who's actually guilty you know like unfortunately we're not going to be

01:24:35.580 able to serve justice here but uh it looks like the the least guilty people were the people who

01:24:41.720 were in jail for uh right for uh over two years on on remand so you're not wrong and when i'm

01:24:50.220 talking like this and i get in trouble all the time because people say this is my opinion that

01:24:55.580 i i when i say they were found guilty people take it like i'm saying that they're guilty like i think

01:25:01.400 they're guilty i'll be very clear none of these men should have been remanded no not even not even

01:25:07.340 for a day none of these men should have been remanded and this trial should have happened a

01:25:11.700 lot differently than it did the explosive charge never been on there that was found outside of

01:25:16.200 coots not related to coots that should have been a different trial for tony but they added it to

01:25:20.120 this trial so that the jury got to see pipe bombs and all that kind of stuff like things like that

01:25:24.480 they should have been severed they should have had their own trials because individually that

01:25:30.060 have been very very different um they should have had bail if they were going to be tried on this

01:25:35.740 it should have been bail right off the bat like i don't think after i've watched everything that

01:25:41.760 there's any crime here that required society to demand incarceration in order to be safe

01:25:49.460 or to send a message i don't think we reached that level yeah exactly and that's that's kind

01:25:55.300 of my it's it's been some time now but now that you've illuminated some of the things that i

01:25:59.420 thought were true about the whole situation it's like okay maybe some guy was guilty of this or

01:26:04.060 that or the other then let him serve the time or face the consequences of that and then let's move

01:26:08.320 on with our lives instead instead these men were used as a political football for years by by these 0.60

01:26:15.640 corrupt institutions you know dragged through the mud all that you know dehumanized people laughing

01:26:21.160 at them oh hi i'm glad they're getting they're getting like more years in prison and it's just

01:26:24.860 like our justice system has failed like this institution is unfortunately a you know kangaroo

01:26:31.720 court whatever however you want to classify it but um it's uh you know people need to to pay

01:26:37.540 attention to that remember that and and once again thank you jason for like documenting all of this

01:26:42.560 and explaining it to me uh a a legal normie you know i i really you're a very smart guy though

01:26:50.520 i'm trying to keep up but um it's difficult but uh i really really appreciate um well let me give

01:26:58.680 you some hope okay so i talked to danielle smith at a town hall my wife and i went to drayton valley

01:27:05.220 where she was at a town hall danielle and i asked her about an inquiry on this she did commit to

01:27:11.000 doing an inquiry when all appeals have been exhausted so when the entire process is finished

01:27:15.620 and she can't be accused of interference then she will call for an inquiry into this so that's good

01:27:21.700 news i also believe within 10 to 20 years in the future canada is going to be apologizing to a

01:27:27.860 whole bunch of people a whole bunch of people king barber leach carvert olenik lysic more and and

01:27:35.780 more there's gonna be more because canada as a society not necessarily the government is going

01:27:41.760 to realize they were very right to do whatever they could even with violence that would have

01:27:48.000 been justified to stop the murdering of a bunch of canadians from the vax um so in the future i do

01:27:54.400 believe that society will come around realize what really happened maybe jail a few people

01:27:59.320 and then at that point erect a few statues in coots ottawa windsor and do a bunch of

01:28:05.440 apologies jerry mckenzie will then be declared the king of canada when that happens 10 years

01:28:09.520 he's going to lead the parade i uh i love that i love that i love the sound of that and

01:28:15.520 you know it's similar sort of to the nci how they're kind of the national citizens inquiry

01:28:20.800 they're collecting the receipts right like they're collecting all of this you're collecting

01:28:25.200 you're documenting the cooch stuff other people are collecting the receipts there and i and i love

01:28:29.520 the sound of that and maybe just to segue into what i'm doing with savefreespeech.ca please do

01:28:34.320 yeah so it's so important because we will be able to do this for long if we don't get this worked

01:28:37.840 out yeah um we are telling the story we want to document all this tell the story turn you can call

01:28:43.920 it propaganda if you want i don't mind that we're turning it into videos and contents to explain

01:28:49.520 this injustice to explain the corruption and to show canadians across the country that it is

01:28:56.180 happening and it is horrific and it is morally wrong most importantly like it is wrong i want

01:29:01.980 to activate more canadians and show them just how deep the corruption is and how um unjust it is 0.61

01:29:08.620 what's happened to to the coots guys all the other political prisoners uh during the trucker convoy

01:29:13.920 and well we're making a documentary that's going to involve uh these political prisoners and talk

01:29:20.480 about how they've been unjustly smeared by anti-hate.ca and how these articles like from

01:29:25.900 vice get somehow used in a court uh order to justify keeping men in jail like there's so much

01:29:32.940 corruption that's going on and uh yeah you can check out safefreespeech.ca um the the bill

01:29:40.940 itself is obviously important bill c63 but more importantly safefreespeech.ca is about being a

01:29:46.600 free speech watchdog bill c63 would be totally awful and terrible you know it would give the

01:29:52.940 government so many more tools to work with to persecute people who have the wrong political

01:29:57.020 opinions so obviously we want to be vocal about bill c63 but on top of that it's it's a lot more

01:30:02.220 it's pushing back against these far left ideologues in this country who are systematically trying to

01:30:08.480 you know de-person and devalue people like us um but if you want to go up to the the donate button

01:30:14.220 this is a good page too but uh we're creating a documentary you know we're creating a documentary

01:30:20.120 to tell the story about this,

01:30:24.640 the Canadians who have been wronged,

01:30:26.320 the Canadians who have been silenced,

01:30:28.300 and how it happened.

01:30:29.880 Because we do have the receipts

01:30:31.420 of how all of this has gone down.

01:30:33.060 We do know the key players behind the scenes,

01:30:35.620 and we need to expose it.

01:30:37.000 We need to tell the story.

01:30:38.620 And I'm very happy to say,

01:30:39.900 we have an award-winning filmmaker working with us.

01:30:43.840 Okay?

01:30:44.120 Right on.

01:30:44.680 I'm not going to say who it is,

01:30:46.300 because I don't want his life to be ruined

01:30:49.320 by all these freaks yeah no yeah yeah um no but we're really happy to have him on board

01:30:55.920 we we break down like it's precisely what the money is going to to pay for uh you know this

01:31:01.700 documentarian his team uh other editors writers contributors researchers uh and i would love to

01:31:07.980 like name names but let's be fair these people have an agenda to shut us down so i'm you know

01:31:13.360 we're keeping it under wraps as much as possible but uh yeah if you if you want to help us tell

01:31:18.760 this story share it with the rest of the country and even beyond because this documentary will be

01:31:23.460 on amazon prime video you know this is going to be legit it's going to be broadcast ready it's

01:31:27.660 going to be legit we're going to submit it to film festivals and everything to ring the alarm bells

01:31:32.020 about uh about um you know these smear merchants in canada and and a major kind of um piece to the

01:31:40.880 puzzle in terms of you know dismantling the corruption in ottawa do you want to play this

01:31:47.120 little video here um i mean we can share the link to it yeah just share just share the link

01:31:53.380 just share the link we did it's it's uh i i it's a that's a good video it warns about bill c63 it's

01:31:59.220 good you can go check it out yourself uh on your own time um but uh that's exciting i gotta be

01:32:07.300 honest with you the video is gonna help to get that movie out um i'm really glad that there's

01:32:12.440 a good documentarian doing it with you and any way it can help even if it's just getting you

01:32:17.660 back on and talking about some more i'm more than happy to help yeah so yeah we've we've done a lot

01:32:22.960 of the research and the writing already in terms of like what the story is really about but um we

01:32:27.240 still need to collect some interviews so uh yeah heads up for that um there's obviously like you

01:32:32.700 know like hey hey let's make a list of you know people who have been wronged for their political

01:32:36.180 opinion in this country it's like oh we got like 10 pages you know it's like a unfortunately we

01:32:41.000 gonna have to narrow it down and figure out the best way to tell the story but you know we we we

01:32:46.200 need that we need these authentic stories getting out there um to you know to ring the alarm alarm

01:32:52.200 bells we need to we need to start collecting the receipts which which we're doing and then telling

01:32:58.120 the story to more people as many people as possible in a very plain matter-of-fact way

01:33:02.600 that's compelling that draws into the emotion and uh really activates people to show them like you

01:33:07.640 you know the wrongs happening in this country so yeah again go to savefreespeech.ca and then you

01:33:13.120 know look for that donate link to support the documentary great work now you you initiated this

01:33:19.760 are you like the guy behind this or are you part of a team or uh we're part of a team a very big

01:33:25.560 team rcmp a very big team uh anti-hate you don't even want to know how many people nationwide i'm

01:33:32.200 just one single player okay there's the you don't even want to know jason how many people are

01:33:37.820 involved in this they're everywhere some of them might even work for the government some of them

01:33:41.680 might even work for the rcmp and anti-hate yes there are infiltrators among you feeding of course

01:33:48.540 there is information you better check you better check who's old and i and i think my wife and i

01:33:55.340 just got our own anti-hate uh coverage too now let's go congratulations hey boom means you're

01:34:01.820 on the right side of history i i i guess what because they're calling my platform a platform

01:34:06.100 for racists and paul is part of this but she's an arab uh from nigeria who isn't white um i guess i 0.89

01:34:14.500 must be a horrible racist then because i'm not even being racist within my own family um maybe 0.95

01:34:20.260 they should do their own homework and do a little bit of research but in either case they it's pretty

01:34:24.060 consistent what uh nta does is they target people who are being effective and communicating with

01:34:30.140 canadians uh the corruption that's going on that opposes their far left uh ideology or their agenda

01:34:36.280 that's who they target they they target people who are effective so it really should be a badge

01:34:40.940 of honor to have a well the way i envision in my head because i have a very graphical brain

01:34:46.260 is i have a bomber and i got my first little thing on the side you know when you actually

01:34:50.240 get your first kill and you have that little thing on the side of your bomber a bomber like a

01:34:54.140 yeah a bomber like an airplane bomber yeah you know how they used to put the stamps on when they

01:34:57.900 finish their mission okay yeah well i got i got one now i got the anti-hate network stamp

01:35:02.440 and i must go over the target i must have hit a target uh that's the way i kind of look at this

01:35:07.940 one it is a badge of honor but it certainly drums up a lot of unnecessary pain yeah yeah and and

01:35:16.880 it's tough however like the cultural undercurrent or like the sort of the sort of byproduct of what

01:35:24.580 i want to do with say free speech or i think it's naturally going to happen is is to to moralize

01:35:29.680 not to demoralize but to moralize canadians and encourage them to say hey don't be afraid of these

01:35:37.040 of these of these devils of these demons of these people calling you names okay because we know we're

01:35:42.080 in the right and and there's a cultural undertone here because even canadians who aren't political

01:35:47.640 are afraid even canadians who aren't they're afraid of just saying oh yeah i don't think

01:35:52.440 trans women are women i did they're afraid to say the most basic truths so it's like yes i want to

01:35:59.740 uh you know expose the far left ideologues in this country and tell the story of political

01:36:04.320 prisoners uh however it's like at the same time do canadians even use their free speech

01:36:10.500 are they even using it you know we we need to we need to really work on that and encourage that

01:36:16.260 uh in spades because um if if we don't use it we will lose it it's kind of a cliche but it's like

01:36:22.820 if we have an attitude of of being a timid population who's constantly accepting more

01:36:28.340 corruption accepting more nonsense oh yeah it's okay i won't do anything about it you know why

01:36:33.260 why do we even deserve free speech if we're not going to speak up we don't even deserve to keep

01:36:37.580 it if we have that energy we we need to you use it we need to use it and stop being afraid uh of

01:36:44.020 this name calling and it and it start it starts with yeah not being intimidated by by by lies

01:36:50.060 you know listen to your heart you know you're in the right you know you're in the right

01:36:53.960 and yeah it is but to be fair it is scary it is scary but at the same time if we don't do

01:37:00.800 something now it will become almost near impossible to do anything about it like for example i don't

01:37:06.440 want to go into the horror stories of bill c63 but it's like you know take the coots thing that

01:37:12.120 happened kate take any political prisoner since the convoy and then throw layers and like multiple 0.95

01:37:18.280 layers of extra charges multiple layers of extra human rights getting censored on the internet so

01:37:24.680 you can't even get the word out out there of how you're being mistreated it would be it truly would

01:37:30.060 be the end of free speech in canada and someone like you definitely understands that uh based on

01:37:34.740 everything that you've seen with with coots absolutely absolutely and conspiracy hat i'm

01:37:41.140 to put it on for just a second here let's do it the behavior that i've been receiving online the

01:37:47.080 hate i've been receiving online for the last year kind of puts me into position where i feel like

01:37:52.980 they're trying to force me whoever they are to want the bill as somebody who's been targeted and

01:38:00.440 attacked and i'd be like okay now i kind of see why we should have an online hate act because

01:38:04.980 they're they're death-threatening me they're putting up all this crazy stuff yeah yeah

01:38:08.440 and each time i start going down that line of thinking like hmm should we have some sort of

01:38:14.160 limits because look what's happening to me and my family i still push back i'm like no you know what

01:38:18.700 even though that just sucks for us it will suck a lot more if i start becoming pro 63 and then

01:38:25.060 147 and 192 and all the other ones after like even though it's happening to me i think it's

01:38:31.680 happening to me so that i can feel it and maybe become a proponent of it it's not working uh

01:38:37.880 because i can kind of see through this it's garbage so i'm just going to ignore it and

01:38:42.280 and use some other legal matters or means that are currently existing but i'm not going to start

01:38:47.000 saying yes let's get bill 63 in place because i'm being you know death-threaded online um i'll deal

01:38:53.640 with that under the criminal code already and that's kind of my message we already have criminal

01:38:57.800 code remedies for this stuff so let's just use that let's not go and create new ones that allow

01:39:03.640 anonymous people to make statements and then you have some conditions on you because a judge

01:39:08.240 believes it like that's crazy um even if i'm going to go through even if i am death-threatened

01:39:14.040 and somebody actually follows through with it i still don't think uh we should have those kind

01:39:18.160 of restrictions unfortunately you nailed it with the there's already uh laws in place remedies yeah

01:39:25.340 there's already remedies in place to to um yeah to remedy the situation uh yeah i mean there is

01:39:32.740 a page on the website uh safefreespeech.ca slash c63 of why it's completely absurd but it's it's

01:39:39.680 honestly still incomplete there's still so many absurd things that this bill could be used and

01:39:43.740 you're absolutely right on doing my intensive research on this bill and seeing other people

01:39:48.400 talk about it seeing other groups talk about it they're all of a sudden their eyes light up and

01:39:52.840 there's this appetite of like well we could use this bill for our own political agenda yeah we

01:39:58.700 could use this against the groups we don't like we could use this against the people we don't like

01:40:02.460 And can you imagine how much of a horrible country that would be to live in, where you have different groups warring against each other, using a piece of legislation to weaponize against each other to try and silence people, trying to call them terrorists or whatever?

01:40:17.660 Like, it sounds like a nightmare.

01:40:20.340 It sounds like divide and conquer on steroids.

01:40:23.020 But it's keeping people safe.

01:40:24.420 And it's like, no, immediately people don't even think about that.

01:40:27.700 Immediately you go to, these other groups go to, well, how could I use this?

01:40:30.940 how could how could i get the power to silence people like it turns the average person into a

01:40:36.040 tyrant it's horrifying and a lot of people say hey it's not going to pass it's not going to pass

01:40:41.040 i've heard this of course the fact that it's even being presented is atrocious and it needs to be

01:40:46.700 it needs to be a point to be made the fact that this is even being considered is totally absurd

01:40:52.660 and insane and a disgrace to our free country of canada like on that on that grounds alone the

01:40:59.520 fact that you would even say this absolutely not need we need to humiliate these people call them

01:41:05.300 out it's totally atrocious and honestly i'm excited because it's you know i i've done content

01:41:11.440 comedy comedy whatever this is something that i'm excited to be focusing on because uh yeah there's

01:41:17.360 it's i i think it's worthwhile and it's god bless you yeah thank you thank you you should and i'm

01:41:24.360 glad somebody's picked up that torch to do that it's been a concern of mine it's going to shut

01:41:28.780 us down and the very next step after the online harms act is the harms act they're going to take

01:41:33.800 away online off and it's going to be in the real world too so if you're making somebody uncomfortable

01:41:39.140 on a bus guess what that's gonna be under the harms act i mean it's already it's already kind

01:41:43.180 of in there believe it or not like it's called online harms act and then only one part of it

01:41:48.120 is about online and then a whole majority of it a huge chunk of it is all just about speech period

01:41:54.000 uh yeah so like it's already in it's already in there actually uh only one and that's going to

01:42:00.040 lead to segregation in the physical world so you're going to not go to a restaurant are you

01:42:04.600 going to be on a certain side like that's what we're going to see happen we're going to make

01:42:07.720 sure it doesn't pass but but you're right great it would be that there's no way it will be this

01:42:12.340 it would be the past but it's not going to it's a hypothetical it's not going to happen

01:42:15.920 i love your optimism on that and for people that say now for people not you right now but for other

01:42:22.080 people who say don't worry it won't pass they're they're not looking at europe there's bills very

01:42:27.180 similar to this that already passed and already in effect so if you don't think that a society

01:42:32.240 can pass one of these they already have other places yeah and we have you know we have a bill

01:42:37.280 we passed bill c18 uh which was 11 18 and 63 i'm exactly devastated by those exactly and and we can

01:42:45.280 say that bill c18 is objectively poor legislation because you can't even get news now the essentially

01:42:51.060 the the big tech platform said we're going to call your bluff canadian government we don't like this

01:42:55.340 legislation so now we're just going to actually pull out sharing news in your country go f yourself

01:43:00.480 that's that's objectively poor legislation like they messed up and of course there's very similar

01:43:06.240 uh stipulations in bill c63 where it might even just nuke the canadian internet because the this

01:43:12.860 what they're presenting is hey if you don't take down the content that the government official

01:43:18.220 tells you to take down facebook or instagram we're going to find you like millions of dollars

01:43:24.080 like so the the financial risk for these big tech companies to even agree to this bill is insane

01:43:32.200 and they might think big tech might just do the numbers and say you're only like 40 million people

01:43:37.220 you're not even a big market that's just like california to us so we're just going to like

01:43:40.700 pull out of the country entirely anyway there's a lot a lot of things uh obviously wrong with the

01:43:47.300 bill but um in general thank you for doing it yeah it's uh what was the other thing oh yeah yeah

01:43:53.880 i actually i wanted to take a minute just to kind of push back or uh undermine the conservative

01:43:58.580 party a little bit because i'm being told that don't worry greg go for it don't worry greg i'm

01:44:03.340 being told don't worry greg the conservative party is going to save us they're going to push back

01:44:07.960 against this bill by presenting their own bill they're pretty good we're going to do the online

01:44:13.560 harms act properly that's literally what michelle remple is saying we're going to write we're going

01:44:17.900 to we're going to write the real bill that's actually going to protect kids and and just from

01:44:22.720 a negotiation standpoint this is not pushing back this is validating the entire premise of bill c63

01:44:29.320 michelle remple so it's not pushing back if you were pushing back you would say this is a disgrace

01:44:34.440 to democracy this bill it's trying to violate our charter rights in to an insane degree and by the

01:44:40.180 way we need to repeal bill c18 and bill c11 that would be pushing back that's the negotiate if you

01:44:45.920 were serious if you were a serious conservative party a serious opposition party that's what you

01:44:50.940 would be saying you would be throwing bill c63 out and saying repeal c18 repeal c11 but you're

01:44:57.160 not saying that you're saying well correct we're gonna we're gonna protect the online space

01:45:01.600 properly and i have they haven't presented the actual bill yet however they're doing the some

01:45:07.500 of the exact same language, some of the exact same arguments are coming from this little Michelle

01:45:12.160 Rempel blog post talking about this bill, which is, don't worry, we're not going to have any

01:45:17.300 loose, unspecific language. By the way, in the same breath, we're going to stop online bullying.

01:45:23.840 Really? And on top of that, Michelle Rempel also says, because they use the angle of criminal

01:45:30.340 harassment. There's the legal precedent for criminal harassment, and we're just going to

01:45:33.920 use the legal system to apply that to the online space. It'll be great. And then she says, people

01:45:40.240 are dying from criminal harassment. People are dying from criminal harassment online. And I'm

01:45:45.880 like, wow, that's a crazy claim to make. So in a way, online bullying is turning into deaths in

01:45:50.840 real life. If you actually click on the story that she shares, it's talking about a stalker

01:45:56.760 who stalks an ex-girlfriend the stalker knows where the ex-girlfriend works it has nothing to

01:46:04.380 do with any like online posting or anything so once again it's exactly what the liberals do

01:46:09.260 which is taking a tragedy taking a crime that's already horrible and then using it see we need

01:46:14.320 we need this government control it's exactly what a referani did when presenting bill c63

01:46:18.980 and now it's exactly what michelle remple is doing he's saying we're gonna stop stalkers

01:46:23.360 like we're going to stop jilted exes from like you know domestic disturbances and violence and

01:46:29.480 murder it's like it doesn't make it's total nonsense and the the real sort of theory i have

01:46:35.000 is the blue tyrants the conservative party they're like well we're going to get into power soon 0.72

01:46:41.160 and uh you know we could use some protections because especially when all this pierre poly 0.92

01:46:48.000 hype boils over and it turns out they realize we're corrupt globalists they're probably going

01:46:51.940 to really hate us and if we put something into the online harms thing where they can't harass us

01:46:57.340 online because let's face it who gets the most harassed on the internet pound for pound post

01:47:02.180 for post it's the people in power the people in power naturally are going to get crapped on the

01:47:08.300 most they are going to get criticized the most on the internet they're going to get harassed the

01:47:12.880 most on the internet and isn't it convenient that this government who's about to go into power

01:47:17.420 probably uh are they want they want to set up some sort of protection system where if you

01:47:22.500 hey pierre polyev is going to be here let's go protest there could that not be criminal

01:47:27.800 harassment could they not make the president of that that that is hey this person's following

01:47:32.420 me around oh my god you know like that's where that's where i think it's going where they want

01:47:37.300 to insulate um politicians in this country from criticism conveniently uh you know using the

01:47:44.960 whole thing of protecting kids and protecting people from criminal harassment you want to

01:47:48.780 protect politicians from harassment you want to protect yourself from harassment online you don't

01:47:52.860 like it when people get angry at your poor leadership uh that's my theory on what on what

01:47:58.400 their version of the online harms act is about but um i don't know if we're going long here but uh

01:48:03.360 well that's fact check true we're going a little bit longer that's okay fact check true i absolutely

01:48:08.340 believe what you just said there is very accurate when she says we are going to protect children

01:48:12.580 better right there she doesn't know what the harms act is for it's not to protect children we already

01:48:17.480 have laws for that it's to remove some more of our abilities to speak yeah so right off the bat

01:48:23.020 right out of the gate she's wrong yeah um that's scary that's the false premise of bill c63 that

01:48:28.380 they're saying that it's going to protect it's always it's always for your safety absolutely

01:48:31.900 yeah don't forget the children right um why don't we know the 11 mps who were working with uh

01:48:37.900 China interference.

01:48:39.780 Let's just start there.

01:48:41.200 Look, at the end of the day,

01:48:43.100 we're supposed to have official opposition

01:48:45.460 who's supposed to be the biggest critic

01:48:46.880 of the current government.

01:48:48.200 We don't have that.

01:48:49.180 We're supposed to have media

01:48:50.600 that's supposed to be a big critic of the government.

01:48:52.480 We don't have that.

01:48:53.700 And now they're trying to eliminate

01:48:54.940 the people's in-person and online voice to do that.

01:48:58.820 They're eliminating every single critique

01:49:01.180 that they can have.

01:49:02.420 What is that called?

01:49:04.000 Well, it's a dictatorship.

01:49:04.920 It's tyranny.

01:49:05.740 If you can't even listen to your critique,

01:49:07.900 critics uh we're in a lot of trouble um maxine bernier would be the only one that's really

01:49:12.860 stepping up against that yeah yeah i mean uh we gotta get the support where we where we can find

01:49:19.500 it and uh we gotta organize you know like obviously protesting is important but we starting

01:49:26.220 to build these organizations starting to build these uh case studies starting to collect the

01:49:31.260 receipts and really turn it into something more and larger and greater that can reach out of our

01:49:35.720 echo chamber and really lift us all up uh it is a david versus goliath story but at the end of the

01:49:41.680 day it's not just going to be one slingshot throw it's going to be a long uh hard uh march to

01:49:48.920 building our own organizations to oppose these these massive institutions all of which are

01:49:54.100 failing us like you named the different like they're all failing us and at the end of the day

01:49:59.860 we need to start building you start building something new that's going to carry us into the

01:50:04.320 future absolutely brother well thank you for taking the lead on that one i'm really impressed

01:50:09.680 and proud and we'll be giving a contribution and i'm sure our members will do that as well

01:50:14.500 um thanks so much for having me and and i just have a couple more questions for you if you don't

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01:51:41.380 this is intense

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01:51:49.580 all right so greg did you see that little warning message before we came in here

01:51:55.380 yeah i'm kind of scared right now what's going on what's going on here

01:51:58.840 that's what gave me the ability to talk about everything in accoutes trial during the trial

01:52:05.300 so once we move to the members area and provide that message we're no longer in a public space

01:52:10.980 so there's no such thing as a publication ban violation should i stop my live stream on youtube

01:52:16.360 you can right now nothing i'm saying is going to be an issue for us because this is all public

01:52:21.500 knowledge now but when we moved into our members area during the trial that's when i was able to

01:52:26.180 share everything okay so should i to be safe should i don't have to no because every those

01:52:33.360 publication bans are lifted so we're good now okay i'm just letting you know that that's how

01:52:38.500 i was able to for 43 days all right during the trial not get into trouble again and this was all

01:52:44.340 worked with lawyers and stuff like that we learned our lesson and sit in front of that judge for sure

01:52:49.160 yeah awesome yeah so nothing went public but yeah you can keep this live on youtube that's fine with

01:52:54.220 me i don't have no problem with that um yeah so we have a couple members questions so at this stage

01:52:59.700 what will happen and by the way if you're on youtube you get to see what their member experience

01:53:02.600 is like patch go ahead and jump on and i'm not on youtube anyways they kicked me off twice so i

01:53:09.360 won't be able to do anything there but hey patch all we really do is we'll answer a few questions

01:53:14.100 to our members and have a special goodbye for them yeah so one thing i wanted to add so regarding the

01:53:19.540 art of polowski um the damage so isla j said yep they changed the charge to inciting mischief

01:53:25.780 so that's thanks for him and then there's a comment here for greg greg has a great comedy

01:53:32.160 act as well he's very talented oh yeah yeah i try comedy i do some i've done some comedy shows i

01:53:38.940 know how to make a room of people laugh yeah if i need to especially if they're right wingers it's

01:53:42.880 you know it's it's uh yeah i got some songs i play guitar um yeah you know i have a song called um

01:53:52.780 you know i pretend to be justin trudeau and i'm like as you know i'm single now and well this 0.64

01:53:59.460 song is about the women that i really look for i love trans women and they're adam's apples

01:54:05.920 there's one swimming she's so much faster than the other girls yeah and it goes on you know

01:54:14.420 that type of stuff do you do you do this online do you do like variety shows if i brought you

01:54:20.900 with danger cat can we get something going or so i i've opened up for uh for danger cats before

01:54:25.440 i've worked with them before i'm surprised those guys are great um but uh yeah and they're you

01:54:31.440 know it's not official yet but we are going to be doing a fundraiser for the free speech documentary

01:54:35.700 and along with that we are going to be doing a comedy show next month the details aren't confirmed

01:54:40.020 yet but uh yeah no a huge a huge part of the angle is obviously the comedy the free expression

01:54:45.960 um they were already having a problem with that you know danger cats were getting targeted for

01:54:51.580 doing comedy for making it for making an off-color joke or whatever about um about current events

01:54:58.020 which is literally what comedians are supposed to do so um so yeah no the humor that's awesome

01:55:07.160 yeah let me know about that if it's in person it's gonna be in ontario or are you gonna do it

01:55:11.600 a few places or um right now we're just going to do one in toronto but um if things go well if the

01:55:18.600 funding goes well if the fundraiser goes well we will probably do a tour to screen the documentary

01:55:23.240 and then i'm thinking it would be cool to do comedy shows along with that in the same cities

01:55:27.220 like the night before like at like after the screening um yeah just kind of double our time

01:55:32.600 while we're while we're out there so you're giving antifa a whole bunch of reasons to threaten the

01:55:37.700 venues got it um because that happens it proves our point right like it would be great it was like

01:55:44.160 okay great this is exactly what the documentary is about awesome thank you thank you for that

01:55:49.320 yeah someone should make a documentary called venues with a pair of balls the entire documentary

01:55:54.980 is about venues that stand up to it and then when you book are they going to cancel are they going

01:56:00.080 to watch your video because it happens all over it happened to danger cats we had tickets in drum

01:56:04.700 heller to go watch danger cat and the day before the benji canceled and it was a bit of a mess but

01:56:10.500 we ended up i ended up going to the show it was a good time but it's crazy yeah and it's you know

01:56:15.920 a meme or joke i've said before is like is it me or are we being held hostage by like the rainbow

01:56:22.320 people it's like don't you dare don't you dare say that bigot it's like i'm so tired of our entire

01:56:28.000 society being held hostage by these far left freaks let's face it i mean it's like it's uh

01:56:34.380 i'm i'm done with this i'm tired of this and we need to stand up to it and yes we're gonna get

01:56:40.240 called names we're gonna get called racist sexist bigot all the other things but um you know it

01:56:45.980 majority of canadians are are tired of it too they just don't have a vehicle they don't have

01:56:52.540 they don't have the validation or the strength or the courage to stand up to it and by telling

01:56:58.160 these stories of the canadians who have been wronged and to expose just how nefarious and

01:57:04.420 immoral these people are that's going to help encourage people to be like you know what i am

01:57:09.040 in the majority i am tired of these far left ideologues um you know intimidating everybody

01:57:14.560 with their with their empty threats well i blame bob barker bob barker is responsible for this and

01:57:20.780 i'll explain to you how bob barker came out to save an elephant he raised a bunch of money he

01:57:25.720 saved an elephant that led this is the price is right bob barker correct that led to circuses

01:57:32.580 being targeted for having elephants that led to circuses not being a good thing that led to no

01:57:38.920 place for freak shows that led to unemployed freak shows that led to the far left extremist

01:57:44.340 because they have they need a job if he didn't save that elephant if he didn't save that

01:57:52.000 elephant. We would still have freak shows. 1.00

01:57:54.440 These people would still be employed. They wouldn't be

01:57:56.120 coming after us online. I think that's all

01:57:58.160 true. You guys can run

01:58:00.320 with that one. Good old

01:58:02.120 Bob. This is like my new

01:58:03.580 favorite conspiracy theory. 1.00

01:58:06.160 Is there like a bitch shoot video I can watch 1.00

01:58:08.060 on this? This has legs. It should be now. 1.00

01:58:10.540 This is where it started.

01:58:12.360 This has legs. It has four legs.

01:58:14.000 I'm going to steal that as well.

01:58:15.840 It's like, you know what? If we just had

01:58:17.960 if we brought back circuses

01:58:20.080 we wouldn't have this problem. 0.93

01:58:22.000 well done yeah we need we needed a place for freaks to do their business and make some money 0.98

01:58:27.040 like barnum and bailey employed a bunch quite well too if you look at the history of it they

01:58:31.760 were paid very well um now they're keyboard people and they destroy other people's lives

01:58:37.000 oh not even that they're they're government employees what do you mean i wish they were

01:58:41.820 just keeping isn't that funny how we get called gov op and all that kind of stuff but just

01:58:45.760 genuinely actual people that are employed by the government to go after people we're not

01:58:50.380 talking about that though right yeah all right so we've got a couple more minutes

01:58:55.400 uh padge if we have a question or two that would be the time no there's there's no questions just

01:59:00.560 really enjoyed you being on greg um thanks for what you do uh thanks for standing up um yes

01:59:06.600 humor is really important seems to be the the consensus in the last few comments for our members

01:59:11.840 yeah but no thanks for what you're doing and we'll be sharing out the um the page i'll do it

01:59:17.520 again right now saves uh free speech adult ca and i'll put that in our descriptions and everything

01:59:23.460 and and push that out as well and then if there's anything else we can do if you want to pop on

01:59:27.360 uh to do a promo or something let us know and we'll try and make that happen absolutely for sure

01:59:31.840 i really appreciate it padge jason and honestly thank you so much because you saved me a lot of

01:59:39.460 like time researching and cross-referencing information about the coots thing like like

01:59:43.940 i'm actually so valued like even if this was just a private conversation and i got to like hear all

01:59:49.300 that information like that that's you save me so much time you save me so much time like it's

01:59:55.460 because there's there's just been so much uh chaos and the fact that you can kind of distill it down

02:00:00.560 to the basic uh principles or facts or events that happened it's god's work what you're doing

02:00:06.920 you're you're you're taking a very complex long saga and you're and you've uh you know we're able

02:00:12.960 to touch the touch points on it and i really appreciate that because that is a huge part of

02:00:19.460 the solution in my opinion taking this complex mix of chaos and actually translate taking the

02:00:25.460 it's work okay it doesn't just happen we can't just make a sign and run out there we need to

02:00:30.820 take the work to sift through all this information and distill it summarize it um curate it and then

02:00:39.620 share it with other people and explain it to people and be like this is what happened this is

02:00:43.380 what's happening they're like what you're doing with the documentary like you you know the process

02:00:49.040 you know the process and but it it's it really does take the hard work how many times have for

02:00:55.220 sure how many times have you been looking at a screen some black and white thing reading legal

02:00:59.700 jargon being like i hate this you know like i i get right like i i i i'll be honest i'll answer

02:01:08.640 other question when it comes to my job never i actually really do enjoy it maybe i'm a little

02:01:13.920 perverted that way my wife's not in her head she knows it when it comes to having to deal with 1.00

02:01:18.520 legal for example these idiots that are causing problems for me defamation death threats that 1.00

02:01:24.100 portion i absolutely hate it i gotta go read through things about me i gotta see some nasty 0.99

02:01:28.680 stuff i gotta see how much is crossing the line i gotta put it together i gotta write paragraphs 0.51

02:01:33.820 so on your own personal defense that stuff you don't like yeah oh okay the ezra lawsuit like i

02:01:39.000 detest every second i have to deal with that one everything else is related to my job which i

02:01:43.960 choose to follow love it every second of it i'm blessed for sure okay and i feel that way too

02:01:50.180 totally and i also want to say thank you to you okay because you've been doing a lot of good

02:01:54.620 workouts there from the convoy and on i don't not sure if your stuff before that but since then

02:02:00.040 you've always been very vocal very honest very frank fun you even make it comedy you do it in

02:02:05.800 such a way that you can stay on youtube which is a large audience that you need to be able to reach

02:02:09.860 so all of that i commend i couldn't stay on youtube um just saying vax and helen gruce boom

02:02:15.980 it's done like that's it like i couldn't do my job but thank you for delicately navigating that

02:02:22.120 so that we can reach more people i think that's really important too so thanks well i hope he

02:02:26.080 doesn't get in trouble now it's honestly it's actually kind of it's that's a whole that's a

02:02:32.220 whole crazy that's a whole interesting topic in itself which is essentially uh during a period of

02:02:38.280 time there were very specific youtube rules about what you could and could not say uh having to do

02:02:43.280 with vaccines and covet and like now those rules are just gone but uh you're totally right if you

02:02:47.500 would have said this in in the wrong time period before yeah it could get nuked or flagged or

02:02:51.780 whatever but that's just not the case anymore for sure but uh i appreciate you saying that because

02:02:55.260 i i was a very intentional effort of uh it's hard it's hard i tried to use code language and uh

02:03:03.320 yeah it's uh i mean that's a whole other other topic in terms of like censorship and free speech

02:03:08.980 but um because in a way we don't even have free speech online in in certain specific respects

02:03:15.320 right so it's uh interesting times it's brutal and also thanks for the comments about coots

02:03:21.640 tune in friday morning it's gonna be a really good one for you to watch it's with donald best

02:03:26.200 he's coming back hand in hat he kind of overreacted to some of the things he said there

02:03:30.760 and i had a dinner with him and we talked about that one specifically because there's a lot of

02:03:35.460 fallout from his comments um but he's he's a big enough man to realize that he didn't have all the

02:03:40.880 facts yet so um friday mornings we donald best with katherine biak which is chris's lawyer

02:03:46.280 so we're gonna be speaking to one of the lawyers and donald is going to basically be pulling the

02:03:51.160 facts out of both her and i so that it's a lot clearer on what what he meant and so he also

02:03:57.180 understands a bit more and not necessarily roll back his statements but at least provide us more

02:04:04.060 intelligent statements at this stage i'm not saying it's dumb um but he certainly made some

02:04:08.440 blanket statements that were not fair they weren't justified and the facts don't support it

02:04:13.900 so friday morning he's going through that process we're calling it finding facts

02:04:17.980 so that donald can pull out of the lawyer and me all the facts he needs to make a better assessment

02:04:23.980 because his first assessment wasn't fair awesome that's monday morning friday morning friday so

02:04:30.420 two days friday friday yep and there's a replay so if you can't make the live you can watch the

02:04:35.560 replay but that should have a whole bunch of facts coming straight from the lawyer too so it's not

02:04:41.140 jason's version it's going to be chris carver's lawyer's version cool yeah that's great great work

02:04:47.400 what you guys are doing it's uh it's awesome thanks greg and uh yeah we inspire one another

02:04:52.540 you know and we got to keep doing that and i'm just a strong believer in like supporting the

02:04:57.300 people who are really doing stuff and paying attention to the fruits of their labor you know

02:05:02.480 like that's really how you can tell if it's somebody worth supporting it's a good return

02:05:06.180 on your time and energy and investment so yeah absolutely and make sure everybody tunes in for

02:05:12.580 shadow on friday where you're going to see greg again and there'll be different questions in a

02:05:16.560 different show but we're going to be talking more about uh the big anti-trans indoctrination uh

02:05:22.660 protests which are going to be happening on friday i might be live streaming out during that day too

02:05:27.180 uh i yeah actually i'm going to be sorry i'm going to be speaking in ottawa

02:05:30.680 is the plan speaking on parliament hill uh talking about how the war on parents talking about how

02:05:38.540 parents are attacked systematically attacked for standing up for your children opposing the gender

02:05:43.580 ideology being taught in schools and uh yeah keeping it light telling some jokes making fun

02:05:48.940 of the counter protesters and uh you know promoting savefreespeech.ca and the documentary

02:05:54.000 of course but um yeah it's uh there's a lot of elements that connect to to this to free speech

02:06:00.800 um and in a way they're already you know they're already trying to kill free speech i brought this

02:06:07.760 up earlier but it's like you know they already do such a good job at uh invoking fear in people

02:06:12.280 to not say anything but uh it works too because we do censor ourselves too right it does it does

02:06:19.000 and we have to start fighting back are you a parent

02:06:21.260 do you have kids i don't i don't still okay i uh do you know anyone no i uh

02:06:30.600 i do actually

02:06:32.800 i'm sure some members right now they're like really he's in toronto he can go to ottawa

02:06:38.840 i'm in maybe we'll make a match that's where i'm located um but uh yeah sorry for that

02:06:44.600 no that's all right yeah we left yeah we left yeah uh we were in the gta for a long time we

02:06:51.160 met in toronto that's where we met uh sound academy sorry for being sorry that i live in

02:06:56.240 toronto is what you're saying yeah uh yeah no comment no comment um but uh yeah hey thanks

02:07:08.060 again for having me guys really appreciate it i feel like we haven't even really had a proper

02:07:12.280 conversation before jason the only one time i hopped on your stream it was like when i was on

02:07:15.720 my cell phone when i was working up north in the winter for like 10 minutes yeah yeah yeah because

02:07:20.460 we were doing the relay with you i think you jumped on for part of the relay yeah i hooked up

02:07:24.940 with you on shadow once so we were on his show one time oh okay i think we're talking about the east

02:07:30.600 west convoy um and how silly it was right right right yeah yeah we did that one but yeah i haven't

02:07:36.920 haven't had you on the show yet so thank you very much for saying yes and coming on yeah no it's

02:07:41.480 been great appreciate it and yeah we'll be in time we'll do it again hopefully hopefully you'll see

02:07:45.640 some of the save free speech videos going viral and people will be talking about it um that'd be

02:07:50.560 great yeah thanks again use it or lose it be safe on fridays that's right yeah take care brother

02:07:58.860 have a good day thanks

Greg Wycliffe - September 19, 2024

Coutts Explained! RCMP corruption, wire taps - Live with Jason Lavigne!

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