00:08:04.640And that in Alberta, because Marco Van Hoogenbaas, Alex Van Herc, and George Jensen, who were considered the leaders, they were called the Coutts Trio, they had their trial by jury for mischief and mischief only.
00:08:19.020They weren't charged with anything else.
00:08:20.720And that's where it's basically been set precedence-wise in Alberta that aiding, abetting, counseling, or participating is enough to be found guilty of that.
00:08:29.640Because all three of those gentlemen were found guilty by jury.
00:08:31.720and this and this is for specifically blocking the highway yeah in fact these three gentlemen
00:08:37.880didn't even have a vehicle involved they were just the facilitators logistics operators
00:08:43.760organized not even organizers that's the wrong term uh there's certainly a spokesperson especially
00:08:49.280for marco but no marco alex and george it wasn't proven in their trial that they had a vehicle
00:08:54.840involved um in fact the closing for the crown said these gentlemen didn't have a vehicle involved
00:08:59.760however they're the ones that helped make the decisions so right um and someone in my chat i
00:09:06.880was going to ask about this someone said what's in the envelope i remember hearing everybody asked
00:09:11.320what about the envelope what's going on i can tell you it's crime fraud that's what's in that
00:09:17.300envelope now specifically what's in that envelope that makes a crime fraud hasn't been provided to
00:09:22.740people so there's i'm treat me like i'm five i'm a dummy what is crime fraud great question
00:09:30.700crime fraud is when a lawyer so you have to be a lawyer it can't just be the rest of us
00:09:35.240gives legal advice has to be legal advice and it has to be advice that leads to the commission of
00:09:41.340a crime so that's called crime fraud is a hyphenated term because it's specifically that
00:09:47.520lawyer legal advice commission of a crime so what's accused or alleged the advice leads to
00:09:55.480the commission of a crime yeah so if your lawyer told you how to murder somebody and get away with
00:10:01.500it that's crime fraud so this would be a document so in the envelope is a letter from a lawyer that
00:10:07.920says like hey look what this lawyer told this person to do kind of better than that it's a page
00:10:12.920out of the notes of the one of the rcmp officers the main one who was working on the itos and the
00:10:18.120warrants stuff uh him he was a lead officer that had the designation to be able to do wiretap
00:10:26.060warrants and other things his notes one page from his notes that contains i'm told seven lines uh
00:10:33.620that was accidentally disclosed it was supposed to be redacted it accidentally wasn't redacted
00:10:39.180Uh, he provided notes on what the defense attorneys for them, uh, called crime fraud after they read it and received it.
00:10:48.380Um, so this would be the, the crown prosecutor lawyer.
00:10:53.840Correct. So specifically, specifically Stephen Johnston, because he had to be excluded from the, uh, application around this.
00:11:03.460So the Crown's office had to send a different prosecutor to defend the Crown's office on the application because specifically Stephen Johnston, the client is the RCMP and the client RCMP will not waive a confidentiality or privilege.
00:11:19.880So currently this envelope is sitting under the client solicitor privilege and is sealed.
00:11:26.240and will there be justice to this would this have to be a separate uh you know court proceedings
00:11:34.320is it right okay so yeah so it'll be a long time before we see any sort of real
00:11:40.620uh do you think justice will be served in this in this instance of the rcmp
00:11:45.740it has to be yeah they have to clear this allegation of crime fraud so either they
00:11:51.900have to clear the crown's office or hold him accountable you can't leave this one in limbo
00:11:56.840but to get there it requires a successful application in front of the justice and i
00:12:01.780believe it has to be the justice who sealed it so david labrens and he has to be convinced that
00:12:07.020it needs to be opened who can open it well media can put a request in i'm sure if cbc said hey look
00:12:14.640we want to open this for public interest it could uh the attorney general or somebody from the
00:12:19.340the minister's office could here for justice to open it up see what's going on the crown's office
00:12:25.740themselves could put an application in to go for accountability sake or even for reputation sake
00:12:31.020deal with it um common joe could walk in there with a good enough argument and if you can convince
00:12:37.020the justice to open it they will so it's currently sitting in a desk somewhere in the lethbridge
00:12:42.460courthouse to be determined on what's going to happen with it there's a talk amongst friends
00:12:48.300of ours people that we both know that wants to raise some money to go ahead and do exactly that
00:12:53.100go get a lawyer walk into a courtroom and make some valid arguments to get it open so i do think
00:12:59.420it will happen one day wow wow um okay so let's move on uh my head my head's trying to you know0.84
00:13:08.140retain all this information uh let's move on to the to the fourth uh coots man did we cover him
00:13:16.300so the last two yeah so tony olenick and chris carbert yeah so your question kind of said you
00:13:23.460know no illegal activities and i was kind of humming and hawing a little bit because we can't
00:13:28.220really say completely innocent chris asked for a guilty verdict on mischief and uh the jury
00:13:34.860certainly found tony guilty on everything except for conspiracy to commit murder which includes an
00:13:40.240explosive charge whether or not they deserve to be in there is a whole other conversation
00:19:42.600like here's what we're trying to do in court and here's why we're doing this process they were fine
00:19:46.760with all of that the details that they had a problem with and i can say this now because that
00:19:50.840trial is over is i said that there's two applications being argued this week so that was
00:19:55.580the first violation saying that there's two applications it's too much detail and then i
00:20:00.980named the two applications so the first application was an application to notify the jury that they
00:20:07.020can ask questions. I'm not joking. There was an application and lawyers argued on whether or not
00:20:13.440the judge should tell the jury that they can ask questions. And just to spoil it, the decision was
00:20:18.700no. So the jury was not told they can ask questions. The second application was whether
00:20:24.160or not the jury can be notified that they can nullify their verdict. Nullification means voting
00:20:28.940your conscience versus the law. And spoiler alert, no, they were not successful with that application
00:20:35.260either so the jury was not told that my violation and my publication ban concern for the crown was
00:20:41.960the number of applications two and then the names of them i didn't go into details about what it was
00:20:47.840or the arguments but i stayed higher level so what the crown tried to do stephen johnston you're
00:20:54.180going to hear that name a lot uh he asked the judge to allow them to charge me for a not just
00:21:01.160a publication ban violation under the criminal code which is a summary offense up to six months
00:21:05.740he wanted me charged with a court order violation so section 127 that's two years imprisonment so
00:21:13.600he asked the judge to consider providing i guess direction to him to have me charged under a public
00:21:21.800not publication ban violation a court order violation the judge said well i want to watch
00:21:27.280the whole video then he doesn't want to watch just the parts that the crowd wants him to watch he
00:21:31.860goes i want to watch the whole video then so that's exactly what happened we all had an adjournment
00:21:35.960he watched an episode of mine it was 50 minutes long judge comes back yes this is in the marco
00:21:43.020alex george court and is and is this in the same times like like for a cooch trial we're having
00:21:48.320this like parallel sort of thing to do whether or not you violated a publication ban or not
00:21:53.640yes so marco alex george trial i'm the first piece of evidence and i'm the first judicial
00:21:59.200decision of that trial because it started monday and i said this on tuesday actually no i said it
00:22:06.380monday night so then the court stuff was tuesday morning so then they almost paused the trial
00:22:11.740to be like okay let's see if we're gonna charge this journalist or not with a publication back
00:22:16.560correct the entire day tuesday if you look at the official record there's no business on tuesday
00:22:22.680except for the publication ban violation potential of this juror of this journalist that whole day
00:22:28.300was that i'm i'm speechless i i don't i don't know much about the law to begin with but uh you know
00:22:36.660this is uh huh and and i think it's yeah how uh and how did that play out do were you were you
00:22:45.280guilty well the judge watched the whole video and he was he was firm but kind so his decision
00:22:52.540was no he's not going to recommend i'm not even banned what they're going to do is they're going
00:22:57.640to put my video in as evidence and if it happens again it will then be used to address it if it
00:23:03.600happens again but his comments were he tried to stay within the bounds of the publication ban
00:23:10.060but failed miserably that was his comment and he goes if you watch it in its entirety he wasn't
00:23:15.900blatantly trying to it to do it he needs to be more careful type of thing and i certainly learned
00:23:21.580because i went back to those two spots that the crown said was a problem and i went and
00:23:26.620re-listened to them and it literally was me saying how many applications and the names of them
00:23:31.340the rest of my show he was fine with wow so i learned my lesson like specifically stay away
00:23:36.460any detail i would argue though you didn't really that doesn't sound like you failed miserably it
00:23:40.740sounds like they got you on a couple technicians like technical uh technical faults there doesn't
00:23:45.880seem like a huge fail i wouldn't call that failing miserably just to you know no i would agree with
00:23:50.860you but i think he was firm because he kind of needed to to maybe send a message and maybe to
00:23:55.140give the crown a little bit of something yeah he failed miserably but no he's not recommending
00:24:00.160charges so i didn't get banned i was allowed to stay you know he looked at me while he was given
00:24:04.780his his decision there i sat there through it i wasn't signaled out like during this whole event
00:24:10.580they just said podcaster in person but i knew who it was because i was told before that it was coming
00:24:15.820and uh yeah i sat there and listened to it everybody knew what was going on but uh what
00:24:20.960was that moment what was that moment like you were you were literally in court watching your
00:24:26.180own show as evidence well they didn't play it in court we adjourned and the judge went and
00:24:31.520watched it himself privately um okay kind of well the morning was hey we have this problem
00:24:38.580then we adjourned to watch it then we came back after lunch and then we had some decisions it was
00:24:44.400it was surreal i'll be honest with you it didn't hit me until a couple days after though after
00:24:50.380kind of digest for a bit and i and i realized how close i was for being charged criminally charged
00:24:55.760for trying to do this work then it hit me and it was rough um i actually took a little bit of time
00:24:59.900to kind of address it did the judge say anything about because it's it sounds like the uh crown
00:25:05.940prosecutor for the rcmp tried to throw the book at you and say okay not only did he uh violate this
00:25:14.560um non-publication but but let's also charge him for a two-year charge or what was it again
00:25:21.160uh court order violation because at the beginning of the trial the judge says yes we're putting
00:25:26.780publication ban in that's considered a court order and they wanted to get me under that instead
00:25:31.420did the judge say anything about that uh charge that they tried to like no no no he didn't break
00:25:39.900it down like that he just basically said i'm not going to make that recommendation i'm not taking
00:25:44.860any action but we're going to hold on to this and if it happens again then of course it's going to
00:25:49.500be like double trouble or something but he made it pretty clear don't come close to that line again
00:25:54.060and i didn't did you have did you have any moment uh throughout all of this reporting coots day
00:25:59.840after day that you thought uh man this is just way too much trouble for me yes yeah oh yes we
00:26:07.360almost shut the show down we almost didn't go uh right before the main trial there were some
00:26:12.240decisions on our side like we we put tens of thousands of dollars into doing this from our
00:26:17.220own bank account and when it came to the point where i could be losing access to my family for
00:26:22.080a while for what i'm paying for this i'm doing this work there's a small group of people that
00:26:26.800are making my life difficult and by the way the crown was really clear at the beginning of their
00:26:32.320hey judge we have something they didn't say we learned of uh we were told of so this little
00:26:38.960group that likes to make a lot of headaches put it to the crown that i was talking about this stuff
00:26:44.640the crown wasn't watching they received a tip yeah we know where the tip came from um but yes
00:26:50.400absolutely i have a group of people that are trying to end my show and my life i've received
00:26:54.820death threats and uh just end it all and i still have to walk into that courtroom with them there
00:27:00.600and do that work so absolutely i'm not going to lie even close we we reconsidered things
00:27:05.640i um i oh there's betty right there i was given the okay to bring up the envelope at a town hall
00:27:12.640meeting with danielle smith right on betty um i believe that the answer from danielle knowing
00:27:17.920danielle uh something something something arthur peloski something something something another
00:27:22.580day um that's likely her response to to betty on that one right um because she's not touching this
00:27:28.400for a while yeah she totally screwed up my question i'm not surprised there you go betty
00:27:33.360did you see this clip speaking of danielle smith this is kind of a viral clip so maybe we'll
00:27:38.060liven it liven it up in uh detox from the lawyer talk for just a minute did you see this clip of
00:27:43.260the uh what is it the the mla in jennifer something jennifer was basically going through
00:27:50.460this struggle session with this uh transgender person being re-educated and this is part of
00:27:56.060danielle smith's team part of yep i'm blown away so the somebody leaked the global tv coverage of
00:28:05.180this from yesterday it wasn't online global didn't put it online it was only on live tv
00:28:09.480somebody recorded it came out it's quite literally the same thing that we're seeing
00:28:13.480with jordan peterson they want to re-educate her she needs to be more sensitive to lgbtq
00:28:18.160plus plus plus negative explanation point like whatever they're called now
00:28:21.500she's she's doing that and i'm just blown away plus plus negative i've never heard that one
00:28:26.860that's good i'm gonna take that i just try to be as inclusive as i can with all those pluses
00:28:32.120and that negative is of course guys like you and i we don't belong in that group
00:28:37.820and that's their choice um but no it reminds me of jordan peterson re-education and this shouldn't
00:28:43.220be happening with uh danielle smith but it is i'm sure well it's it's the worst of the worst stuff
00:28:49.420that you could imagine and the fact that it's happening under danielle smith who who i will
00:28:53.680admit has has been one of the most vocal conservative voices in the country you know
00:28:57.680she has said some great things that it's you know although i don't although i don't think she's
00:29:03.080doing everything she can and i think that she might just be a corrupt globalist feeding us
00:29:07.780what we want to hear uh she has at least said some of the right things on the microphone and
00:29:13.520it's just very disappointing when it's like when you look into it it's like oh this person seems
00:29:17.120just as bad as uh our political enemies you know it's like two plus two equals five say say trans
00:29:23.760trans women are women it's crazy it's an interesting version it's not conservative
00:29:29.700not even close to conservative um what she's doing i think it's antithetical to to logic0.86
00:29:36.240and reason and just basic truths it's definitely not uh conservative no right so she now leads the
00:29:44.060united compromising party because that's what she's been doing is doing a lot of compromising
00:29:48.480she's not convicted she's not conservative she's compromising a lot right now and that includes
00:29:53.200doing this to one of her own mlas yeah um it is it's nuts i was i was just gonna say like
00:30:03.460in the future if we if we don't win this uh cultural political battle in the future
00:30:09.280you know we'll be on trial have one hand on the bible i solemnly swear that trans women
00:30:16.120are women and i will tell the whole truth nothing but the truth so so help me um
00:30:21.600baphomet uh just trying to lighten the mood here a bit i don't think you're wrong because one of
00:30:30.520the first shocks that happened in the carpet trial was the judge coming out and apologizing
00:30:35.600because he said to the jury ladies and gentlemen so he apologized because we're supposed to be
00:30:40.900saying members of the jury and he caught himself a couple times saying ladies and gentlemen
00:30:46.040that's what he's gonna apologize out of all the things you're gonna apologize for hey sorry
00:30:51.960sorry you guys were on remand for uh geez oh man you know what i set the timer totally forgot about
00:30:57.740it they're not going to say sorry about that oh whoops i said ladies and gentlemen correct and
00:31:03.200then he slips back into it for about a week he was still doing it and then obviously there's
00:31:07.160another conversation because i think he eventually had a post-it note because a couple times i saw
00:31:12.140him look down and then say members so a little reminder to remind the judge uh be woke make
00:31:18.440sure you're woke and sensitive because of course people are losing their minds right where are the
00:31:22.440priorities it's crazy i can i can say this now but marco van hoogamos have you had a chat with
00:31:27.480him yet have you had him on your show yet no marco then you should okay hoogan bonds yeah yeah so he
00:31:34.380was a main spokesperson during the convoy thing or the coots brocade all the rebel videos is marco
00:31:39.660talking you should have him on um what he did was he did post on x talking about barbara perry
00:31:46.500and how she's being looked at as a potential witness and then he also mentioned um that he
00:31:53.720doesn't think that he thinks he's going to get in trouble for this post well he did um the crown
00:31:59.480brought that post to the judge of marco's own trial okay it's his own trial so the judge had
00:32:04.980to say to him basically stop posting uh you're violating publication man you can't talk about
00:32:10.040that kind of stuff so he got in trouble there what was his trial about for marco mischief as
00:32:15.720the leaders for oh he's one of the he's one of the coots three oh yep the coots trio yeah so
00:32:21.880marco alex and george yeah lots of moving parts my friend yeah this is why you have to be there
00:32:27.720for a reason why my ears perked up is uh we've talked about barbara perry at savefreespeech.ca
00:32:33.320before she is a contributor to anti-hate.ca which is you know part of this far left coalition this
00:32:39.540network of people who try to create immediate consequences for people with the wrong opinions
00:32:45.260by smearing their reputations and uh working with the media to like proliferate those smears
00:32:50.600to just villainize uh people like us or people who have the wrong politics um so it's interesting
00:32:58.860that he was wrongfully concerned about what did he specifically do he he he did he did he kind of
00:33:05.580discredit barbara perry like what was his yeah basically just called her racist just basically
00:33:10.340called her racist and how disgusting it was to listen to her talk in the pre-trial it was horrible
00:33:15.980the judge the sheriffs everybody in there according to barbara perry is racist and it
00:33:22.280got so bad that the judge told we have transcripts of this yeah it's going to be in the crown strips
00:33:27.080yes if they were ordered they'll be there pre-trial when will they be available i'm working
00:33:32.840on it and betty's listening to you there's a lot of people working on trying to get uh transcripts
00:33:38.600the economical way to do it all that kind of stuff because i mean if there's anyone who who
00:33:43.660did appreciate the apology from the judge it'd be barbara it's like thank you so much
00:33:47.860for giving non-binary language that's exactly what we need we avoided violence today right
00:33:53.800god right but after she was doing things like if you're christian you're racist extremist if you
00:34:01.780if you're against the government in any way that means the entire opposition party you're racist
00:34:07.560like her checklist for being racist wasn't you didn't have to hit five items and then you're0.57
00:34:12.960racist you have to hit any or all the threshold is pretty pretty low uh have white skin right
00:34:17.700done you're racist yep so the judge did say to the crown you may want to reconsider this witness
00:34:24.120and he mentioned it twice yeah and he mentioned it twice before she said all this you know anti-white
00:34:31.300stuff on trial or it was after it wasn't on trial it was pre-trial so whether or not she could be a
00:34:36.940witness was being challenged okay so the crown wanted to bring her as an expert witness and the0.97
00:34:43.720defense is like she's not an expert she's a racist so she was a witness as some overweight woman
00:34:49.220like with their cats somewhere that's how she's a witness she's a witness like how is she a witness0.99
00:34:54.360because she has because she did white people being evil because they gave her an expert right
00:35:01.940this is correct and that's the problem that right right and that's why it was argued because she
00:35:07.840was given a copy of like the phone data and stuff like that and then she was supposed to create a
00:35:11.820report to say how she can prove that these gentlemen are racist turns out her report
00:35:16.820totally let chris carbert off the hook because there's like no text messages where chris is
00:35:21.240doing anything like you're going to be blown away that the evidence for chris was so
00:35:25.260are we still live wow that was weird i've never had we're back i've never had my browser do that
00:35:44.900before i must be treading on some some some territory here um where do we leave off here
00:35:51.460no surprise uh we were talking about how um she's an expert she has cats she's a little bit0.65
00:35:58.780overweight she's a donut expert no she's uh no uh we were talking we're talking about oh right
00:36:04.100chris carver yeah yeah yeah if i'm not mistaken he was somebody charged and like he wasn't even
00:36:10.660there or something right this is what we found during the trial the yeah we're jumping around
00:36:16.680a little bit but this is fun um so the undercover manager who spoke to and debriefed the undercovers
00:36:23.420he created daily debriefs and notes and then he created a report or a summary for his higher-ups
00:36:30.720working with just that his notes and his report to the higher-ups chris carver wasn't part of
00:36:37.500these conversations only tony it was after trial time all this kind of stuff getting close to trial
00:36:43.980prepping for trial all of a sudden this narrative popped up that's not in the notes that chris was
00:36:49.020part of these conversations all of a sudden so that that did happen we saw that so i mean is is
00:36:57.040that some sort of fraud when they kind of like insert oh yeah and chris was in this this group
00:37:01.440chat too when he he wasn't like what like what what what is that is that not fraudulent is that
00:37:06.020not something nefarious that needs to be addressed what that is are excellent questions that need to
00:37:12.820be answered correct absolutely there's a lot that came out during the trial uh didn't match the
00:37:19.900evidence testimony change especially around the undercovers and uh because a lion's share of the
00:37:27.100culpability for the men were based on what the undercover said it wasn't messages really pulled
00:37:32.600off their phones there wasn't phone calls all the really nasty stuff isn't verbalized anywhere
00:37:38.180except for by the undercover operatives no recording according to them they all testified
00:37:42.640that they didn't have recording devices all three testified to that really yeah big
00:37:46.340really really so these are the known known undercover rcmp people correct and like that
00:37:55.100like this this is a thing like hi i was working undercover for the rcmp and i and i i have no
00:38:00.180recordings i didn't record anything really so they say yep wasn't wasn't part of the i remember
00:38:07.240hearing like way back like way back at the beginning of this that they did have a recording
00:38:12.040of you know one of the guys saying something nefarious or bad and and like so that ended up
00:38:18.000not being true there wasn't any sort of like like phone clip or audio clip that they were using
00:38:22.280against these guys initially okay so there's one and i think it's called intercept 139 so 139 of
00:38:29.960all the intercepts they did where it sounds like tony is talking in code about bringing more stuff
00:38:35.080there so so what is the intercept though where did this capture it's a phone call between
00:38:41.400yeah phone call between tony and another gentleman named kyle mohan i think it was
00:38:45.880um and if you listen to that access to this that guy who got the crime fraud envelope that
00:38:51.560officer who screwed up um and provided the disclosure when it should have been redacted
00:38:56.440that officer had the power to do what's called the 1844 warrant under the criminal code which is an
00:39:02.920an intimate harm one it basically means we don't have time to go talk to a judge so we're going to
00:39:08.020implement a warrant which is an intercept of communications a wiretap warrant and they can
00:39:12.880initiate that based on what they call intimate harm without a judge and that's what they did
00:39:17.260so the joke that all of our phone calls are tapped is like not really even a joke it's kind of
00:39:22.500accurate dude we're just getting started like there's there's a more to that particular issue
00:39:29.100that you're highlighting there or whether or not they're always listening wow so it's not a meme
00:39:32.460guys it's kind of it's kind of real it's kind of a real thing our phones are probably tapped
00:39:36.840good to know uh i i could have i've always assumed it as a joke so i you know i you know haha it's
00:39:44.180just a joke thesis but now it's like uh i i guess i i feel like maybe i'm not a schizo maybe
00:39:49.520well this is just crazy okay i can't tell you where i got this next piece of information but
00:39:55.380i can tell you i have this piece of information there's some information in one of the itos
00:40:00.180that the police could not have had legally the date of it is february 2nd the intercept was put
00:40:06.740in on the 9th or the 10th so it means because they ended up having it it means either one
00:40:14.340they violated the warrant and went into the phone it's an intercept warrant which means they can
00:40:20.420intercept your messages but they can't enter your phone so any phone calls or text messages that you
00:40:25.220send they can intercept what about so either they what about like a whatsapp call that is not through
00:40:30.260um like yeah they can't get it okay so it's encrypted yeah it's encrypted it's more secure
00:40:36.420good to know uh not that i'm doing anything illegal but like come on it's this is a nice
00:40:42.140kind of like comforting thing to know that i'm not being listened to by some rcmp officer giving
00:40:47.260them no let's let's be clear you're likely listened to whether or not it's admissible
00:40:51.660evidence in court different question okay okay couldn't they just bug the can they bug the phone
00:40:56.900to just like you know have the microphone on anyway could potentially oh yeah yeah yeah uh
00:41:02.600there's a project project there's a project out there i can't remember the name off the top of my
00:41:06.040head but it exists the second option is uh it's just totally running wild right now so it should
00:41:12.480because they had they had a no problem uh you're not sleeping today they had a uh they had a message
00:41:20.000from february 2nd that they shouldn't have had um so either a they were intercepting everybody's
00:41:25.800messages on or before february 2nd so everybody's messages that were down there using the cell tower
00:41:31.400they could have been intercepting wow and on now there is there is testimony in court by chris
00:41:38.020carbert that they witnessed um rcmp mucking around with one of the cell phone towers down there with
00:41:45.620a provider so like telus or something like that also there so there's testimony about that uh so
00:41:51.740they could have been intercepting everybody's doesn't make it admissible okay it doesn't make
00:41:55.760it admissible but it doesn't mean like allowed and legal right okay okay uh and then the second
00:42:03.380one was or they got into phones and then actually looked at older messages because they're not
00:42:08.920intercepted but they got it because they ended up with a message from february 2nd put it into an
00:42:14.840ito before they had the warrants so how did you get that message before they had the phone so
00:42:23.100there's only one way well there's two ways intercepting everybody or you went into the
00:42:27.720phone illegally in either case they kind of screwed up the person that wrote the ito
00:42:31.980was using all information available to them and one of the pieces wasn't supposed to be used
00:42:36.820because it's not admissible it's not legal so we have that information so so where are we at here
00:42:43.040in terms of like rcmp strikes from the crown in terms of like strikes as in like things that were
00:42:48.180unlawful unlawful that the rcmp or the crown prosecutor uh did in this case like because is
00:42:54.560that one of them is that something that's technically um yes malfeasance what do you
00:43:00.580what's what's is there a legal term for this charter violation completely illegal to our
00:43:05.180highest laws yeah all of the above um so in addition to that there's the crime fraud there's
00:43:11.140excavators that they damaged private property on private property they don't even hide that
00:43:15.760they're blatant about that one um they brag about it um so that was a criminal mischief of over
00:43:21.840five thousand dollars this is what the rcmp did they destroyed that was february 12th they
00:43:28.380destroyed someone's private property this was the day that the emergencies act was was enacted then
00:43:33.600no so this was february 12th the day before two days before two days uh emergency act was
00:43:39.300valentine's day february 14th my birthday by the way so i remember it clearly um february 12th is
00:43:46.160when they provoked by damaging the excavators they didn't get the response that they wanted but
00:43:51.400yeah they went on private onto private property damaged private property they didn't and they
00:43:56.420admitted on the stand this was during pre-trial no lawful warrant and no lawful authorization and
00:44:02.460this was repeated again in the trial by a superintendent covert they had no approval
00:44:07.560to do that no lawful authority to do it but they did it so there's that one there's um violation of
00:44:13.780the search itself the searches themselves are deemed to be illegal by the judge so both warrants
00:44:19.460got thrown out because they were both illegal so those were no good um but during the search
00:44:24.280themselves they were violating the procedures all over the place um the urge team emergency response
00:44:30.360team that's supposed to clear the room so that the search people that can come in and start taking
00:44:34.660their pictures the earth team was moving stuff around and planting and staging things so they
00:44:41.320took stuff around the house put it together on a bed and when the search team comes in it's like
00:44:45.560oh look they're all ready to go so how do we know that that the earth team was doing this they
00:44:51.660testified to it they testified to it they also testified they made mistakes they shouldn't have
00:44:58.640moved it they should have let them take a picture first they testified to bringing pizza walked
00:45:03.380around eating pizza during the search it's a crime scene you're not allowed to do that it's
00:45:07.440against the rules they testified to it and so tell me why this is uh like what were they moving
00:45:14.620around what were they what were they doing okay so one example that we'll just you'll get it when
00:45:18.720i tell you this so chris had a firearm under his bed uh he had in his in his closet he had a
00:45:26.860knapsack with ammo and what they did was they took the firearm which was not with the ammo
00:45:31.620put it on the bed put it with the ammo put it with a sticker that said fringe minority or
00:45:36.780something like that and that's how the search team found it but that was done by the urch team
00:45:41.760so when you walk in that's so tacky hey there's a gun here's the dude they put the wrong caliber
00:45:51.380wrong caliber wrong caliber man and they disrespected gun owners on top of that
00:45:58.600and that's just one example they did that in a few places uh tony's property search there's
00:46:04.160memorabilia from world war ii missing his dad was in world war ii there's memorabilia missing
00:46:09.180why is it missing because they left the 50 caliber ammo so he's had some empty 50 caliber
00:46:15.580souvenirs they left that to show the jury look they have 50 caliber too that's huge it's like
00:46:21.720tank stuff but they don't show the rest of the world war ii memorabilia that it was found with
00:46:27.280uh but the rest of that memorabilia is gone it's gone it's nowhere to be found this is just this
00:46:33.520is just validating everything i've heard about these the uh you know all the worst possible
00:46:38.820things you could imagine about the rcmp is the urt team part of the rcmp yes the emergency response
00:46:44.200team they're kind of like swat their job is to go in there heavy-handed it was the urt team set up
00:46:49.400the worst possible photo op for their political enemies so in coots joint joanne well maybe just
00:46:56.560a couple like maybe there's a couple bad seeds here joanne person's property in coots staging
00:47:01.800uh tony's property in staveley alberta which is 200 kilometers away staging uh willful destruction
00:47:09.960of private property mischief over 5 000 it was the earth team this is all testimony from them
00:47:14.360they did that like anytime earth teams involved something weird's going on that shouldn't be
00:47:19.900happening so let's get let's get into the diagonal on stuff and that that infamous photo that infamous
00:47:24.860photo of look at this stockpile of weapons uh how did that photo come to be is it related to
00:47:32.660this earth stuff it didn't make it to the trial that photo no nothing in that photo
00:47:39.020was involved in the trial no no no let's be clear the picture was not involved in the trial
00:47:45.140six of the firearms in that photo is attributed to three of the men in the trailer two each for
00:47:52.520carbert tony and chris slice sick chris carbert he had a 223 panther arms something it's a
00:48:01.900prohibited weapon uh but it is a semi-automatic 223 he had that we'll get to that in a second
00:48:07.400if it's prohibited does that mean it's a completely illegal it's not just a restricted
00:48:12.360uh firearm it's like a like not okay to even have it all or or is it so the order in council
00:48:18.520from trudeau he made this really long list it's not even past law it's just an order in council
00:48:23.680that made a prohibited firearms list it's basically anything that looks like ar style
00:48:28.500ar at all okay so it recently became illegal is that fair relatively recently yeah it hasn't
00:48:35.220become illegal illegal it's on a prohibited list uh if you owned it i'm sorry for all the gun
00:48:40.020owners watching oh this guy doesn't know anything i i'm i'm a beginner here okay i'm still learning
00:48:44.280Yeah. At the end of the day, Chris shouldn't have had it because he actually also has a prohibition to not own restricted and prohibited firearms.
00:48:53.200He's allowed to have non-restricted, but he has a prohibition for life not to touch the other ones.
00:48:58.180He shouldn't have had it. There is a whole story around whether or not he knew it was a prohibited firearm when he purchased it.
00:49:05.440There's a story there, but he's doing his time for that one. I guarantee you that.
00:49:09.880the other one he had was a non-restricted mcr semi-automatic 223 as well so non-restricted
00:49:17.860totally legal and he had his pal totally legal and totally legal to have two with him it's
00:49:22.940non-restricted he's allowed to those are the only two that chris had tony had a lever action 22
00:49:30.960rimfire 22 lever action and he had a 12 gauge shotgun with no shells there were no shells
00:49:39.860found in the trailer so tony had a 22 and no shells super violent and dangerous right uh chris
00:49:46.620lysic had an mcr similar to chris uh carbert's mcr which is a 223 and he also had a 45
00:49:53.980handgun which was restricted and that's the restricted handgun that he should not have had
00:49:59.540there and that's what he took his plea on that was all the firearms in that trailer the other
00:50:05.100nine firearms on that table in that photograph other people's okay wow thanks for that summary
00:50:12.020so let's talk about the diagonal patch so the diagonal patch first the word diagonal was not
00:50:19.260said during the trial uh the the crown made a decision and this is after the hate gate article
00:50:25.860came out the crown made a decision to not go ahead with that narrative of diagonal anymore
00:50:31.280hold on so hate gate came out around a year ago if i'm not mistaken correct so in the middle of
00:50:39.940all of this so at the beginning those itos that we spoke about diagonal is every third word in
00:50:45.540there death is every third word and this is all before the trial even started correct that's what
00:50:52.340they they lost their bail applications on was that that's what they lost their bail applications on
00:50:58.660they lost all four men applied for bail and they lost it based on the diagonal narrative
00:51:03.700right so canadian anti-hate network document was provided by the crown to the to the justices
00:51:10.300because there's two different justices that did the bail for the four men and um vice media article
00:51:15.800was provided as proof that diagonal is dangerous all that kind of stuff and that was used to tie
00:51:21.860these men to a nationwide terrorist organization domestic and that's why they were so dangerous
00:51:27.980they had to be denied bail uh those are the two documents that were used wow vice article
00:51:33.840anti-hate article and and this kind of like non-specific belief that diagonalon is a violent
00:51:40.980militia correct and that was used early and that was part of the itos that's what at least whoever
00:51:47.300wrote it believed and that's what the judges who denied bail believed they believed that these
00:51:52.020were dangerous men there were thousands of people willing to take over the government and storm the
00:51:56.480government and these were just some of them that's what he believed i want to take a moment to uh
00:52:01.820to thank you jason for for following this story and documenting all of this and learning about it
00:52:09.300and and yeah no i i really appreciate this because if it weren't for people like you
00:52:14.140actually documenting what's going on uh then these these corrupt you wouldn't know this
00:52:21.460other efforts would be getting away with this um so i i yeah i really really appreciate um
00:52:27.320you doing the right thing and uh great i appreciate that it wasn't easy there was there
00:52:35.180was times where you know certain members of the coots for relatives reached out to me and told
00:52:41.000me about like egregious things happening and i felt bad because it's like i don't know the laws
00:52:49.100there's a publication ban i want to talk about this i don't know how to talk about this i don't
00:52:53.420know anything about the law i'm also over in ontario so that doesn't help either and um
00:52:59.340you know i'm i'm also you know friends are getting thrown in jail and stuff so i'm like i don't even
00:53:04.800you know it's it's uh so i and i i felt some guilt at the time of like man i you know these guys are
00:53:10.640rotting in prison and uh you know i didn't follow up with this person or that person so i appreciate
00:53:16.440that there that was there's someone like you out there who who was uh you know on top of all of
00:53:22.120this that that means a lot coming from you and um it wasn't easy it wasn't easy but i i was there
00:53:28.900because i was covering the poec public order emergency commission in 2022 and that was the
00:53:34.080first time i got introduced to diagonon or jeremy oh is that right somebody somebody reached out to
00:53:39.440me and he says uh i have this friend and he's kind of running from the police there's a warrant for
00:53:44.200him nationwide warrant what should he do i'm like uh turn himself in it's there's really no other
00:53:49.960option like the sooner you start addressing it the sooner it's going to be dealt with and i had
00:53:53.800no idea who he was what the charges were it was just somebody reached out and said what do you
00:53:58.480think you should do is to turn himself in um then i saw him in the trial you know the poec when he
00:54:04.300was in saskatoon they had him in jail they did that perp cam thing on him and that's when i really0.67
00:54:09.380started to learn a little bit more about diagonal and then i watched the poec i heard about coots
00:54:15.140there was a bunch of in-camera stuff that we didn't get to see it was done in private in camera
00:54:19.820stuff so in camera means private so when it comes to court or hearings when they say in camera that
00:54:26.780actually means no camera because they're doing it behind closed doors yeah so that raised a big
00:54:32.940flag and then uh rulo's report was i believe diagonal was dangerous and i believe everything
00:54:38.560i heard in the in-camera stuff like oh dude we got to find out what's going on sorry who is saying
00:54:43.480this i believe everything rouleau rouleau the commissioner from the public order emergency
00:54:48.680commission right okay him his report that came out yeah his report is like diagonals real the
00:54:55.440danger was real everything was justified this was the conclusion of the poec his conclusion
00:55:02.000correct which was like a final verdict of like the weeks and weeks long thing part of that
00:55:07.420conclusion of justifying the emergencies act was oh yeah no diagonal is legit terrifying there like
00:55:13.220it's it's legitimately scary correct his report said he doesn't believe jeremy a single word he
00:55:19.340said he believes the things we were told in camera and everything he was told in camera is what i'm
00:55:24.400repeating to you now that came out in the trial which is the vice article and the anti-hate article
01:30:46.300because I don't want his life to be ruined
01:30:49.320by all these freaks yeah no yeah yeah um no but we're really happy to have him on board
01:30:55.920we we break down like it's precisely what the money is going to to pay for uh you know this
01:31:01.700documentarian his team uh other editors writers contributors researchers uh and i would love to
01:31:07.980like name names but let's be fair these people have an agenda to shut us down so i'm you know
01:31:13.360we're keeping it under wraps as much as possible but uh yeah if you if you want to help us tell
01:31:18.760this story share it with the rest of the country and even beyond because this documentary will be
01:31:23.460on amazon prime video you know this is going to be legit it's going to be broadcast ready it's
01:31:27.660going to be legit we're going to submit it to film festivals and everything to ring the alarm bells
01:31:32.020about uh about um you know these smear merchants in canada and and a major kind of um piece to the
01:31:40.880puzzle in terms of you know dismantling the corruption in ottawa do you want to play this
01:31:47.120little video here um i mean we can share the link to it yeah just share just share the link
01:31:53.380just share the link we did it's it's uh i i it's a that's a good video it warns about bill c63 it's
01:31:59.220good you can go check it out yourself uh on your own time um but uh that's exciting i gotta be
01:32:07.300honest with you the video is gonna help to get that movie out um i'm really glad that there's
01:32:12.440a good documentarian doing it with you and any way it can help even if it's just getting you
01:32:17.660back on and talking about some more i'm more than happy to help yeah so yeah we've we've done a lot
01:32:22.960of the research and the writing already in terms of like what the story is really about but um we
01:32:27.240still need to collect some interviews so uh yeah heads up for that um there's obviously like you
01:32:32.700know like hey hey let's make a list of you know people who have been wronged for their political
01:32:36.180opinion in this country it's like oh we got like 10 pages you know it's like a unfortunately we
01:32:41.000gonna have to narrow it down and figure out the best way to tell the story but you know we we we
01:32:46.200need that we need these authentic stories getting out there um to you know to ring the alarm alarm
01:32:52.200bells we need to we need to start collecting the receipts which which we're doing and then telling
01:32:58.120the story to more people as many people as possible in a very plain matter-of-fact way
01:33:02.600that's compelling that draws into the emotion and uh really activates people to show them like you
01:33:07.640you know the wrongs happening in this country so yeah again go to savefreespeech.ca and then you
01:33:13.120know look for that donate link to support the documentary great work now you you initiated this
01:33:19.760are you like the guy behind this or are you part of a team or uh we're part of a team a very big
01:33:25.560team rcmp a very big team uh anti-hate you don't even want to know how many people nationwide i'm
01:33:32.200just one single player okay there's the you don't even want to know jason how many people are
01:33:37.820involved in this they're everywhere some of them might even work for the government some of them
01:33:41.680might even work for the rcmp and anti-hate yes there are infiltrators among you feeding of course
01:33:48.540there is information you better check you better check who's old and i and i think my wife and i
01:33:55.340just got our own anti-hate uh coverage too now let's go congratulations hey boom means you're
01:34:01.820on the right side of history i i i guess what because they're calling my platform a platform
01:34:06.100for racists and paul is part of this but she's an arab uh from nigeria who isn't white um i guess i0.89
01:34:14.500must be a horrible racist then because i'm not even being racist within my own family um maybe0.95
01:34:20.260they should do their own homework and do a little bit of research but in either case they it's pretty
01:34:24.060consistent what uh nta does is they target people who are being effective and communicating with
01:34:30.140canadians uh the corruption that's going on that opposes their far left uh ideology or their agenda
01:34:36.280that's who they target they they target people who are effective so it really should be a badge
01:34:40.940of honor to have a well the way i envision in my head because i have a very graphical brain
01:34:46.260is i have a bomber and i got my first little thing on the side you know when you actually
01:34:50.240get your first kill and you have that little thing on the side of your bomber a bomber like a
01:34:54.140yeah a bomber like an airplane bomber yeah you know how they used to put the stamps on when they
01:34:57.900finish their mission okay yeah well i got i got one now i got the anti-hate network stamp
01:35:02.440and i must go over the target i must have hit a target uh that's the way i kind of look at this
01:35:07.940one it is a badge of honor but it certainly drums up a lot of unnecessary pain yeah yeah and and
01:35:16.880it's tough however like the cultural undercurrent or like the sort of the sort of byproduct of what
01:35:24.580i want to do with say free speech or i think it's naturally going to happen is is to to moralize
01:35:29.680not to demoralize but to moralize canadians and encourage them to say hey don't be afraid of these
01:35:37.040of these of these devils of these demons of these people calling you names okay because we know we're
01:35:42.080in the right and and there's a cultural undertone here because even canadians who aren't political
01:35:47.640are afraid even canadians who aren't they're afraid of just saying oh yeah i don't think
01:35:52.440trans women are women i did they're afraid to say the most basic truths so it's like yes i want to
01:35:59.740uh you know expose the far left ideologues in this country and tell the story of political
01:36:04.320prisoners uh however it's like at the same time do canadians even use their free speech
01:36:10.500are they even using it you know we we need to we need to really work on that and encourage that
01:36:16.260uh in spades because um if if we don't use it we will lose it it's kind of a cliche but it's like
01:36:22.820if we have an attitude of of being a timid population who's constantly accepting more
01:36:28.340corruption accepting more nonsense oh yeah it's okay i won't do anything about it you know why
01:36:33.260why do we even deserve free speech if we're not going to speak up we don't even deserve to keep
01:36:37.580it if we have that energy we we need to you use it we need to use it and stop being afraid uh of
01:36:44.020this name calling and it and it start it starts with yeah not being intimidated by by by lies
01:36:50.060you know listen to your heart you know you're in the right you know you're in the right
01:36:53.960and yeah it is but to be fair it is scary it is scary but at the same time if we don't do
01:37:00.800something now it will become almost near impossible to do anything about it like for example i don't
01:37:06.440want to go into the horror stories of bill c63 but it's like you know take the coots thing that
01:37:12.120happened kate take any political prisoner since the convoy and then throw layers and like multiple0.95
01:37:18.280layers of extra charges multiple layers of extra human rights getting censored on the internet so
01:37:24.680you can't even get the word out out there of how you're being mistreated it would be it truly would
01:37:30.060be the end of free speech in canada and someone like you definitely understands that uh based on
01:37:34.740everything that you've seen with with coots absolutely absolutely and conspiracy hat i'm
01:37:41.140to put it on for just a second here let's do it the behavior that i've been receiving online the
01:37:47.080hate i've been receiving online for the last year kind of puts me into position where i feel like
01:37:52.980they're trying to force me whoever they are to want the bill as somebody who's been targeted and
01:38:00.440attacked and i'd be like okay now i kind of see why we should have an online hate act because
01:38:04.980they're they're death-threatening me they're putting up all this crazy stuff yeah yeah
01:38:08.440and each time i start going down that line of thinking like hmm should we have some sort of
01:38:14.160limits because look what's happening to me and my family i still push back i'm like no you know what
01:38:18.700even though that just sucks for us it will suck a lot more if i start becoming pro 63 and then
01:38:25.060147 and 192 and all the other ones after like even though it's happening to me i think it's
01:38:31.680happening to me so that i can feel it and maybe become a proponent of it it's not working uh
01:38:37.880because i can kind of see through this it's garbage so i'm just going to ignore it and
01:38:42.280and use some other legal matters or means that are currently existing but i'm not going to start
01:38:47.000saying yes let's get bill 63 in place because i'm being you know death-threaded online um i'll deal
01:38:53.640with that under the criminal code already and that's kind of my message we already have criminal
01:38:57.800code remedies for this stuff so let's just use that let's not go and create new ones that allow
01:39:03.640anonymous people to make statements and then you have some conditions on you because a judge
01:39:08.240believes it like that's crazy um even if i'm going to go through even if i am death-threatened
01:39:14.040and somebody actually follows through with it i still don't think uh we should have those kind
01:39:18.160of restrictions unfortunately you nailed it with the there's already uh laws in place remedies yeah
01:39:25.340there's already remedies in place to to um yeah to remedy the situation uh yeah i mean there is
01:39:32.740a page on the website uh safefreespeech.ca slash c63 of why it's completely absurd but it's it's
01:39:39.680honestly still incomplete there's still so many absurd things that this bill could be used and
01:39:43.740you're absolutely right on doing my intensive research on this bill and seeing other people
01:39:48.400talk about it seeing other groups talk about it they're all of a sudden their eyes light up and
01:39:52.840there's this appetite of like well we could use this bill for our own political agenda yeah we
01:39:58.700could use this against the groups we don't like we could use this against the people we don't like
01:40:02.460And can you imagine how much of a horrible country that would be to live in, where you have different groups warring against each other, using a piece of legislation to weaponize against each other to try and silence people, trying to call them terrorists or whatever?