In 2014, the brother of Conservative MP Tim Upal was charged in a drug sting. Yet, when it came to the prosecution, the Crown dropped the charges both times, letting him walk free while his co-accused were convicted.
00:07:09.960Is it because they have no case against him?
00:07:12.000or is it because he shares the same address with a department of justice lawyer a federal minister
00:07:19.700a federal mp this dude you're i'm so glad that you brought this story to light because it uh
00:07:28.480it's it's an intersection of so many things that um concerned canadians talk about there are
00:07:33.900concerns about foreign interference and in this case you know it's it's no it's no mystery that
00:07:40.220Mr. Upal, every single photograph where you see Pierre Polyev wearing a turban
00:07:47.260or is hanging out with Sikhs, some percentage of the time, Tim Upal is usually there.
00:07:54.200And you've also done a lot of work just talking about the World Sikh Organization in general.
00:07:59.520And it's like, hey, guys, if we're looking for actual receipts, actual evidence of foreign interference,
00:08:04.140I think the World Sikh Organization and its many tentacles and how it's connected to various political parties,
00:08:09.340including the conservative party i think that's actually a great place to start or a great a great
00:08:14.100place to just instead of just throwing our hands in the air and saying we're gonna stop foreign
00:08:18.740interference well actually there there's actually names and addresses and connections and there's a
00:08:23.600whole network and web of information that um you know that people that the public can start digging
00:08:30.700into and that politicians could potentially start getting upset about to draw attention to
00:08:34.960And I guess my question is, Mocha, is how does it feel to do the work that CESA should be doing?
00:08:43.240Well, that's a that's a good question.
00:08:48.200You know, intelligence agencies, they're very tricky and it all rests on independent journalists and media because they're actually a part of government.
00:08:59.480let me explain like this they are part of they are essential to democracy not part of government
00:09:05.380but essential to democracy in the sense that they that they expose and they have their own
00:09:10.920editorial judgment and they uh you know exercise their own judgment not getting directions from
00:09:18.260the government and that's why it is very important to not be funded by the government we have
00:09:22.920collusion in this country especially from mainstream media who are colluding with the
00:09:28.240government by basically getting funding from them how can you claim to be independent when your
00:09:32.720paymaster is the government itself there needs to be a separation of powers and journalism is
00:09:38.440supposed to be independent independent from government independent from special interests
00:09:42.760people can smell they have nose they can smell when they are being fed a very poorly packaged
00:09:49.620news content that is agenda driven they they smell that and they immediately turn off
00:09:57.980the news content that i produce has i don't think has nothing to do i think my news content smells
00:10:04.820very good and it tastes delicious and uh it is in-depth you know what i mean so that's why i
00:10:12.680think i've been getting a lot of debt threats legal threats and uh i'm even i'm even actively
00:10:18.180involved in lawsuits let alone threats but my policy has been unless you file it i am not going
00:10:25.760to take it seriously yeah no you're you're doing you're doing very courageous work uh because
00:10:32.160you know it's uh it's it's very i was telling talking to somebody else the other day they're
00:10:38.900like a right-wing dissident and i was explaining how like it's very thankless work you can be
00:10:43.300correct you can have the information you can have the receipts people are still going to call you
00:10:46.500crazy ostracize you not invite you to the party because uh well let's face it this story is kind
00:10:54.000of not it's kind of a problem for the conservative party of canada it's kind of a big it's kind of a
00:10:59.160big problem uh that you have that you have tim upal one of not even just like some mp he you said
00:11:08.060he was what multiculturalism minister or shadow minister the actual minister yes he was the
00:11:13.740minister under Stephen Harper. Amazing. He's a current deputy leader of the, along, along with
00:11:21.040Melissa Lansman of the, of the conservative party right now. And this is, you know, this is a party
00:11:28.480that claims to put Canada first. I can't even say it with a straight face. It's so ridiculous when
00:11:35.620there's stuff like this going on, you know, and they love to say, wow, Carney is a liar. The
00:11:40.920liberals are liars you know they're corrupt and it's like well you know if you look at some of
00:11:46.500your own mps if you look at some of your own party um they're connected to the world organization as
00:11:51.800well they're they are also you know looks like pulling strings with potentially uh lawyers to
00:12:00.020change the outcome of criminal charges and and and actually here's another good hypocrisy to
00:12:05.360shove in the face of Pierre Polyev conservative party supporters stop the crime we got to stop
00:12:11.320the crime right are we gonna stop Tim Upal's brother yeah could you start by bringing your
00:12:17.280own MP Tim Upal into your office Pierre Polyev and maybe giving it giving him a talking to about
00:12:22.440his brother and asking him what the heck is going on there uh that might be a good place to start
00:12:27.520everyone is innocent until proven guilty but how can you get you know have you ever been arrested
00:12:34.480with drug trafficking or drug possession or firearm offenses not once but twice me neither
00:12:43.800like i don't think these things just happen out of you know bad luck but everyone is innocent
00:12:49.860until proven guilty of course however when you have uh your brother as minister and his wife
00:12:56.300as a department of justice lawyer it raises questions doesn't it absolutely absolutely and
00:13:31.160here's the receipts I figured out all the receipts
00:13:33.560i connected all the dots and uh people people should know about this um and that's that's
00:13:40.240something to be very proud of and i think people should really value and reward thank you because
00:13:45.820i strife sorry go ahead i i was gonna i was gonna say that um you know uh i'll just i'll make a joke
00:13:55.420here because some people are like hey like who is this mocha kid is he canadian is it like he's
00:13:59.960turkish or something like he looks like some foreign alien and and the funny part is is that
00:14:04.540you do investigative journalism which is totally alien to canadians this is like an alien concept
00:14:11.120of like actual real investigative journalism that you're doing uh but you know hats off to you my
00:14:16.960question though was going to be thank you when bringing this report together because let's face
00:14:21.620it you know this this report that i brought up earlier uh you know this is from 2014 brother
00:14:28.140federal cabinet minister tim up all charts and a drug sting but i wanted to ask like when you were
00:14:32.700kind of like bringing all this stuff together all this information is there anything uh especially
00:14:37.480because you know you're you're you have a nose for the sort of corruption going on and the
00:14:43.200connections to the world seaker organization is there anything in particular that even made your
00:14:47.760jaw drop of like wow no this like this is actually even more shocking than i thought or like what is
00:14:53.580the most outrageous part i guess that you discovered when bringing together this report
00:14:58.000well i gotta give credit where it's due and um bob ray who's a former seek and who's been
00:15:06.560on my channel many times bringing me some explosive documents and explosive evidence
00:15:11.920which then i independently research and confirm uh he has been integral in this report as well
00:15:18.160with his findings he he is like a former insider so to speak and uh he knows who's who and what's
00:15:27.600what's happening where and where to look for things. He's great. He's a very intelligent
00:15:33.560researcher. And I was shocked when we went to the courthouse and we were trying to... Okay,
00:15:41.120I'll tell you the story like this. We've been trying to get this court document from 2014
00:15:45.780since last year. We have applied through the courthouse in Medicine Hat, in Calgary,
00:15:51.840in Edmonton, because it's been more than 10 years, they all direct us to the archives. They say it
00:15:58.520has to come from the archives, the provincial archives. And the archives kept losing track
00:16:04.020of our request three times. Every time we have to pay like $20, $20, $20, we have to go to the
00:16:10.180courthouse, file. They kept losing the document. And then eventually when we were waiting for the
00:16:17.3402014 documents, guess what we came across? They sent us the wrong documents. They sent us the
00:16:23.980criminal charges Raymond Freed faced in 2008. This was a shocking revelation for us because we were
00:16:30.520trying to find one document with one criminal. Wait, what? He's been charged before with similar
00:16:35.420charges in 2008 and crime prosecutors once again let him walk free? That's shocking development,
00:16:40.660isn't it that's that's what dropped my jaw and then we had to keep fighting to get the 2014 order
00:16:47.800they're like we already sent it to you no you sent us the wrong document thank you by the way
00:16:52.480but you're gonna send us a 2014 one as well and then maybe they were delaying that 2014 one
00:16:57.820because it was explosive in that it had Raymond Preet's address the address which is owned by
00:17:06.720their parents the address which is associated by department of justice lawyer kran binder
00:17:12.160timople's wife and timople himself and from this address they have donated
00:17:17.280thousands of dollars to the conservative party during those times that both near 2014 and 2008
00:17:25.360so it's very sketchy and and do i trust admittance police i don't i i like did they
00:17:32.000search that property or not they that's what they need to come clean with
00:17:36.720I cannot get over the sort of irony or like the double-edged sword of Canadian bureaucracy where you're trying to get documents from 2014 and like it's taking them forever.
00:17:52.640And it's like, oh, man, this bureaucracy is so inefficient.
00:17:55.180And then they send you the wrong documents, but it also ends up being like a bigger sort of like expose of like, oh, we don't even know about this.
00:18:45.220But once again, I just think because it's such a big problem
00:18:48.060for the Conservative Party of Canada, especially,
00:18:50.500it kind of just shows that like, yes, we know this emperor has no clothes,
00:18:55.760but like the official opposition also is completely naked as well.
00:18:59.500So I guess, are you holding your breath?
00:19:01.920do you think this is going to get picked up by anyone in more of the mainstream conversation
00:19:06.920here in Canada? Well, I strive to structure my reports as actionable intelligence reports.
00:19:16.560And whether the general public picks it up, whether mainstream media picks it up, I think
00:19:23.940key individuals and key people, they pick it up and they make a note of it. You have all this
00:19:31.600knowledge now with um court you know i present court records land titles articles of incorporation
00:19:38.740other official records publicly accessible and and you know these are not secrets top secret
00:19:45.720information or this is not trust me bro type of journalism and so you know when you have all these
00:19:54.100These documents together, you know, sometimes governments, it takes time for them to take action. They take note of things. They don't let you know that they are aware. And they just watch from a distance. They just need to know. Sometimes they just need to know. They don't need to take action. They just need to know.
00:20:17.700and then in the future down the road you never know you might be facing something much serious
00:20:24.500and that is not i'm not i'm not you know i try to throw the ball to the u.s jurisdiction all the
00:20:29.980time you know because they are much severe they are much severe with this type of stuff and they
00:20:36.380might exorcise canadian politicians when the paper comes in you gotta go that's just how it is and
00:20:43.740And I think we could send a couple of Canadian politicians down to the U.S. to face the music, because unfortunately, currently, our prosecutors, our investigative agencies, they seem very incompetent for the last 10, 15 years.
00:20:58.920You know, have you ever seen something like, yes, go do it, RCMP, great job.
00:21:04.240Or have you ever seen something that made you go like, wow, that prosecutor did their job amazing.
00:21:10.980No, all we see is charges being dropped, cases being dismissed, and, you know, look at the, you know, criminals are investing half a billion dollars in Canada, half a billion dollars of fentanyl superlamps.
00:21:34.120Are you going to tell me they have no one inside law enforcement or inside the judiciary or inside the government?
00:21:40.980And they're just brave to invest half a billion dollars.
00:21:47.020And, you know, when you ask all those questions, it really kind of, what comes to mind for me is all of what we've been seeing on the TV for the past month or so with the trade war.
00:21:58.440It's like Team Canada, Team Canada, we're Team Canada.
00:22:01.220Yes, it's that Trump, it's the tariffs, that's the big problem, that's the big thing we have to worry about.
00:22:06.660and i feel like anybody who's paying attention is like uh yeah i feel like the people in ottawa
00:22:12.160are the problem i feel like our institutions are the problem and this whole sort of like
00:22:17.580grandstanding as if we are you know gonna actually have canadian pride to like fight back america
00:22:23.280it all just seems like a massive ruse um especially when you consider things like this
00:22:28.600like you were just saying like like who's actually looking at these things like you're saying of like
00:22:33.500well you know how how does a uh you know criminal organization have the confidence to invest this
00:22:39.060this much amount of money uh half a billion dollars yeah um is this what specific story
00:22:47.700is this i'm not i'm not super familiar with this one oh this is the falkland bust i was in falkland
00:22:53.740bc when this happened i mean i was there next day as soon as it happened and basically i tweeted
00:23:00.440about it too which got quite the attention rcmp raided a warehouse where they discovered half a
00:23:07.160billion dollar worth of drugs dozens of automatic weapons other precursors etc it just a crazy bust
00:23:16.200in the history of canada they have never busted something big like this one and only one person
00:23:22.920was arrested and he's a seek hmm surprised i'm not very surprised but you know questions arise
00:23:30.520when you see so many seeks always getting arrested with these you know charges of drug trafficking
00:23:37.880etc especially to the u.s like why are you what is going on here is there a pattern here what
00:23:44.120what's going on here like is there a fierce competition why is this group seem to be
00:23:51.320be overrepresented in media when it comes to drug trafficking yeah absolutely and i know you
00:23:59.040have to get going but uh let's let's touch on that before you go which is um the world seek
00:24:04.320organization you know that it's it's uh you've brought up this chart and you've made this chart
00:24:09.760i think it's a great visual aid for people uh to understand but as i said earlier it's like this you
00:24:16.140know when you talk to pierre polyev foreign interference is this sort of like nebulous
00:24:21.180thing we don't really know what it is okay there's some there's foreign interference oh spooky
00:24:25.440but when you talk to mocha bezragon he's got the receipts you've got a sophisticated web of how
00:24:31.540people are connected and you know it's all labeled and everything and um and that's thanks to the
00:24:39.560great research skills mr bob ray has and he's been instrumental in the creation of this chart
00:24:46.620by providing me the necessary data for me to create this chart and as you can see from the chart
00:24:53.780many mayors mps ministers who are either executives of world seek organization or family members of
00:25:01.320executives of world seek organization and you can see they're hiring each other's sons they're
00:25:05.860you know married to each other it's it's a pretty interesting chart and world sikh organization
00:25:12.740their ambition their official uh goal is to establish an independent sikh state
00:25:21.720called calistan in india so how like their top priority is even foreign how is that not foreign
00:25:30.440interference. And they're so powerful in Canada. They have their children as Supreme Court judges.
00:25:36.740They have their children as ministers like Hadjit Sajjan. And this is an organization that was
00:25:45.100accused of being terroristic and violent even before the 1985 air India bombings,
00:25:54.820which were committed by Kalistani Sikh terrorists in Canada.
00:26:00.440So, you know, they wield significant power across Canadian politics, both in Conservative Party and Liberals. I don't have to mention NDP. NDP leader Jagmeet Singh, his brother, was involved with the World Seek Organization as an executive.
00:26:14.340with, and Jagmeet Singh is a Kalistani, and you have seen the report I've done on his
00:26:22.960father, who lost his medical license twice, yet the CPSO, Ontario Medical Board, deleted
00:26:37.680that history of his license being suspended for alcoholism and they deleted they wiped it out
00:26:45.940yeah and that was we only know thanks to the american database yeah and that was our last
00:26:51.860uh the last chat we had i had an interview with mocha i believe it was last month and it was all
00:26:56.180about this exclusive report oh my god it was connected to the world seek organization oh my
00:27:00.840god it was connected to the fact of a family member of an mp who seems to be getting all these
00:27:06.920massive favors done of hiding wrongdoing in this case being a psychologist or therapist who is
00:27:15.520having some of their kind of what do you call it like bad report card stuff removed off of his
00:27:21.740record as a therapist you know it makes me wish that I was a Sikh connected to the world Sikh
00:27:27.900organization you know it sounds like I could get away with a lot well yeah they've been getting
00:27:33.820yeah of course you know but just in general this is how um i don't know how to describe it but this
00:27:42.100is how let's say parallel states work you have a government you have a state and then you have
00:27:47.280something parallel that has infiltrated inside and they have their own people on speed dial they
00:27:53.540have their own prosecutors their own people in the police force you know like this they're all
00:28:00.200connected and then they orchestrate whatever they need to orchestrate um i'm just speaking but uh in
00:28:06.400canada i think people have been too docile and they have not come to a point where like hey
00:28:13.780what's going on here you know when i show my reports to my turkish friends in turkey they're
00:28:18.300like why are these guys even in the government like why are these people you know like they
00:28:23.980don't even think they are canadian but you know like how can you how can you come to this country
00:28:32.460with a foreign agenda you're all about this other you this other country you want to establish in
00:28:37.660another place and uh how can we how can we assume that you have good intentions for this country
00:28:45.500for canada what if your intentions clash with canadian uh intentions what if it clashes with
00:28:52.380the canadian public's best interest well that's why you know this is textbook but
00:28:59.340they all all these special interest groups they present their causes as on par with canadian
00:29:04.940public interest but that is a lie sometimes or most of the time it is not in the interest of
00:29:12.380the canadian public and i think you're touching upon the ugliest dark disgusting underbelly of
00:29:20.780multiculturalism you know with multiculturalism there's this idea that we can all get together
00:29:25.580we can all get along and as you just said you can't have the top interest of canadians
00:29:32.620you can't prioritize the interests of canadians and also the interests of sikhs at the same time
00:29:38.460that just doesn't make sense especially when there's uh the world sikh organization having a
00:29:43.780is it like a mandate to start their own state in of calistan back in india like that like that's
00:29:49.640the mandate of the World Seek Organization? Is it that