Greg Wycliffe - Danny Bulford Ex-RCMP joins the Resistance against Canada's corrupt Establishment

00:00:00.000 As Canadians reflect on everything that's happened over the past three years and we add up the lies,

00:00:06.020 the incompetence, the corruption, we come to the conclusion that some of the behavior from our

00:00:10.700 government and the government officials could be considered criminal. Obviously this is wrong,

00:00:16.280 this is immoral, but are there any conservative politicians of the Conservative Party of Canada

00:00:21.580 saying anything about this? No. So it's up to the regular Canadian men and women who are brave enough

00:00:28.860 to stand up and say something and to call out what is clearly wrong. Tonight, Danny Bulford,

00:00:36.440 former RCMP officer and security detail for Justin Trudeau, joins me tonight to share his journey on

00:00:44.960 leaving the establishment and deciding to do the right thing. The conversation starts now.

00:00:50.640 I promise you, I will not let you down. The trucks parked outside illegally should move.

00:00:57.040 Canada's Conservatives will meet our Paris climate commitment. Enough with the woke s**t.

00:01:04.060 So I'm Mr. Speaker, I take that back. To champion our Conservative principles. We are the party

00:01:08.540 of law and order. To call in the auditors. We haven't yet decided whether we're going to call

00:01:12.860 for the government to impose a mandatory test or vaccination. And we will win the next election.

00:01:19.700 Canada must not ignore the reality of climate change.

00:01:36.560 Why weren't Canadians vaccinated in January and February like everyone else?

00:01:46.320 Welcome everybody to Controlled Opposition episode 19. Tonight, I'm with a very, very special guest,

00:02:02.880 RCMP for 15 years, part of the emergency response team, which is the RCMP tactical unit and was even

00:02:09.800 the sniper security detail sometimes for the one and only Justin Trudeau. And he was also helped with

00:02:15.500 volunteering for safety and security down at the trucker convoy. He was arrested at the trucker

00:02:21.380 convoy, but not charged. You may have seen him before. Danny Bulford. How are you doing today, sir?

00:02:28.500 I'm good. Thanks, Greg. I love the name of your show, by the way. That's brilliant.

00:02:33.500 Well, thank you. It's an honor and a privilege to have you on. Your story is a very, very important

00:02:39.900 one as you have been part of the, one of the most major institutions in this country, the RCMP,

00:02:46.260 our federal police force. And you have taken this journey to say, stand up and stand up for what is

00:02:52.320 right. And I'm sure it hasn't been an easy journey. But we're going to talk about more about that this

00:02:58.840 evening, where you, what you've been doing since the convoy. And of course, the common thread of

00:03:03.400 where has the opposition been this, this, this whole time. And I think we'll start with that

00:03:10.360 before the COVID era, you know, you're, you're working for the RCMP. Maybe you're following

00:03:15.560 politics in Canada. When is the first time that you started to question the conservative party,

00:03:22.180 or maybe just start to question, you know, the political establishment as a whole? Were you always

00:03:27.580 cynical about Canadian politics? No, not always. And even, you know, prior to COVID, I definitely

00:03:44.400 leaned more conservative, for sure. I, you know, I thought, at the time, I thought Stephen Harper was,

00:03:52.300 you know, some people didn't like him, but he seemed like a very competent, intelligent man who

00:03:57.160 was an extremely hard worker. Sure. And, but, you know, when I was early on in my career, and I was

00:04:04.780 working and living up in UConn, I tried to keep an open mind when I really started to be like, okay,

00:04:10.100 like, I need to take voting, at least pretty seriously, I should at least know what the

00:04:14.080 different parties are trying to sell, and see who I align with the most. And really, the only time I

00:04:19.500 ever considered anyone other than Harper for PM was when Jack Layton was in charge of the NDP, or was

00:04:28.020 running, was leader of NDP. I took an honest look at their platform, but I just, at the end of the day,

00:04:34.760 I just couldn't vote for the local candidate. That was a factor in my decision making.

00:04:39.620 But then, forgive me, a lot of people have jokingly criticized me for this before. But at one point

00:04:51.620 in time in the federal election, when I was still living in the UConn, I even voted for green. And

00:04:56.440 not that I was like, on board with the climate change agenda whatsoever. But when I was looking at

00:05:02.620 the local candidates for UConn, the conservative guy was basically just running on what he had ran

00:05:11.420 on the previous election. And that he kind of hung his hat on on the gun registry. And that was it,

00:05:17.680 like the abolishing, abolishing of the gun registry. The liberal I couldn't vote for the NDP candidate I

00:05:23.860 couldn't vote for. And the only guy that was like, well spoken, qualified and articulate was the Green

00:05:31.020 Party who was like, he was like a local UConn biologist. And I was like, well, I want Stephen

00:05:36.920 Harper to be the Prime Minister out of all of the leaders that are available. But the only guy locally

00:05:41.400 that I feel good about voting for would be John Stryker, who was the part that their federal

00:05:47.660 candidate at the time. But I don't think there's any shame in that. I certainly think it does make

00:05:54.060 you a minority in this country because I because unfortunately, Canadians don't really follow

00:05:59.700 that closely what happens in Canadian politics. And I wish all of them would actually learn their

00:06:05.260 local candidates in a federal election. But I really think that happens. That is the minority

00:06:10.520 scenario. Most of the time people are just saying, who's the leader of the federal party? I'm going to

00:06:15.640 vote. I'm going to vote for them. But but good for you for for doing your due diligence as a citizen,

00:06:20.820 right, to actually learn about about your local options. Imagine that.

00:06:24.740 Well, then. But then when I when I transferred to Ottawa, and like you said, I was regularly involved

00:06:32.060 in beefing up or supporting the protection of the Prime Minister's detail. I got to see firsthand like

00:06:40.160 how Stephen Harper operated. And he he has a reputation for being a workaholic. And it's true.

00:06:47.520 Like he all that guy did was work. And it his version of working was not just flitzing all over

00:06:53.700 the world for photo ops. And, you know, we're living the rock star lifestyle that our current

00:06:58.420 Prime Minister does. He wasn't he wasn't singing covers of Queen at the at the piano or anything

00:07:03.540 like that. No. And even one time I was I was doing like a nighttime patrol like foot patrol out in

00:07:12.080 around his cottage property. And I was kind of just doing something to occupy myself that night.

00:07:19.000 And I was testing out night vision that we had been recently issued. And so I was doing like a

00:07:24.460 little foot patrol around the property and night vision. And it was about three or four o'clock in

00:07:28.580 the morning. And Prime Minister Harper was on his laptop working like everybody else was asleep. And he

00:07:36.080 was I I saw the little glow from the back screen of his laptop shining on his face in the window of his

00:07:41.620 cottage. And I was like, he never stopped. All he did was work all the time. So I long story short,

00:07:51.740 to answer your question. Most of the time of my life, I've leaned conservative. And I think that's

00:08:00.140 because of like people like him and the competence that he displayed. But I have never been like a diehard

00:08:07.720 one party or the other kind of person. I try to vote for the specific leader or the specific candidate.

00:08:16.180 Most of them skepticism around the conservatives. Like that's what you asked about, right? I think

00:08:23.000 probably mostly began when they were silent with during all of the COVID restrictions and mandates,

00:08:34.520 because it was well, it was politically risky to challenge the narrative, even though that's the

00:08:44.340 opposition's job to do that. Right. And I was really disappointed in Aaron O'Toole as the as the leader

00:08:52.400 during the election campaign, because I thought, this guy has it in the bag, people are done with

00:08:57.320 Trudeau. They're done with all of this COVID nonsense. All he has to do is just basically say,

00:09:03.140 hey, I support freedom of choice, because that's part of our charter protected rights in Canada.

00:09:08.900 And he I think he would have had the victory, but he didn't he waffled and gave the typical political

00:09:15.680 non answer. And it backfired on him. Yeah. And we were seeing clips of we're all in this together

00:09:24.600 during the debates on TV during that election. Mandates were not even a debate talking point.

00:09:31.260 You know, the the fact that we were just going to force mandates on everybody was sort of just

00:09:35.640 this unanimous yes, with the conservative party, you know, liberal party, green, orange, everybody.

00:09:43.340 Well, and what shocked me the most about the conservatives in that regard is

00:09:47.220 there was plenty of evidence already available at that time, plenty of experts, plenty of evidence

00:09:53.420 available to to crush the government's horrendous response to COVID-19. And they could like they

00:10:03.220 could have totally taken the government to task if they had just chosen to have a little bit of

00:10:10.080 courage as opposed to willful blindness. And they would they would they could have been the heroes of

00:10:15.600 the day. But instead, they chose to say, you know, I call it silently safe, in their mind. And that was

00:10:23.360 when I, I lot of I lost a lot of faith in them at that time. There has been the odd individual, like

00:10:33.320 certain individuals that I will openly support, like Roman Baber. He was, he sacrificed his job and his

00:10:43.780 seat in his career as well to speak out against what he thought was wrong and an injustice. So,

00:10:48.800 you know, I acknowledge him, to a degree, Leslie Lewis, as well, she's been vocally, you know,

00:10:57.120 vocally opposing the globalist agenda and mandates. So I will, I will support individuals who oppose it.

00:11:04.260 But as a whole, I think the opposition failed to do their job in that last election campaign, and even

00:11:12.820 and throughout the declared pandemic. And in regards to those specific issues, they are still failing to

00:11:20.780 really to really oppose it in a in a rigorous manner, right? Like, I think it was it's opportunistic to gain

00:11:28.740 popularity when something like the convoy is happening. And then to like, be completely silent

00:11:33.860 on it after the fact, when, I mean, the evidence just keeps pouring out more and more and more that

00:11:39.140 this was an absolute disastrous response that destroyed our economy, destroyed relationships,

00:11:46.680 destroyed careers. And if they wanted to strike while the iron was hot, like, what are you waiting

00:11:54.120 for? Like, this could, if you if you had the gall to talk about these issues and present real evidence,

00:12:04.040 and, and experts who are willing to speak to it to the corporate media, they would as the official

00:12:09.960 opposition, the corporate media pretty much has no choice, but to at least report on what you're saying,

00:12:18.560 right? Like, so it makes the censorship much more difficult if it's coming from the official

00:12:23.060 opposition. That's right. That's right. And the because a lot of the mainstream media is at least

00:12:31.260 partially subsidized now by the federal government. Sure, they might report on you telling the facts as

00:12:36.920 the opposition party, they might make you look bad, they might try to skew it and spin it. But in my

00:12:42.660 personal opinion, you know, the media needs to be challenged in this country. Because, because there's

00:12:49.700 that unity right now between the liberal party and the media, they're just they're just like this,

00:12:53.700 they're, you know, totally on on board on the same page, the exact same rhetoric, the exact same sort

00:13:00.460 of values, even in morals. And it's not being challenged right now by the opposition party. And in

00:13:06.900 fact, the opposition party is playing ball with them to a large degree, except for a few kind of comments

00:13:13.900 made here and there to for for Pierre Paul, you have to pump up his chest. But yeah, they have no they

00:13:22.600 seem to have no problem challenging the media on the issues that they appear to feel are politically

00:13:29.360 safe. Right, right. But for whatever reason, no one wants to talk about the harms of the COVID response.

00:13:38.100 You know, like a failure of lockdowns, the failure of masks, the failure of the injections, you know,

00:13:44.760 the suppression of treatment protocols that could actually save people and keep people at a hospital,

00:13:50.140 all of it like that. I mean, you pull one thread in the ball, the it just unravels even more. But

00:13:56.260 I, you know, considering how much damage was inflicted by the response.

00:14:02.640 I just can't fathom why you wouldn't take the opportunity to show how it was complete,

00:14:11.940 utter incompetence and failure, and maybe even, well, not maybe, likely even decept, deliberate

00:14:19.220 deception. Yeah, on behalf of the current government, right. But they stick to their safe topics that,

00:14:26.700 you know, they don't want to be labeled anti-vaxxers or anything like that, even though

00:14:31.240 it's such a ridiculous term. But it's, it's again, it's that playing safe politically,

00:14:38.900 when I think what we need is like, some real courageous people who are willing to

00:14:45.280 speak the truth. No, even if even if it means you become unpopular as a politician.

00:14:52.120 I think you're, you're absolutely right. I think you nailed it with that. And I'm just going to bring

00:14:56.600 this up on screen. There's other examples of bit of this. But this is, we have, you know,

00:15:02.860 Justin Trudeau, Jagmeet Singh, Pierre Polyev, and they're all I believe that's the Green Party

00:15:07.300 candidate or Green Party leader as well. But they're all marching for I believe is the New Year in Chinese

00:15:15.980 New Year in Vancouver. And I bring this up in relation to that, you know, Chinese interference

00:15:21.980 that's been happening. And they want to do an inquiry into the Chinese interference. And of

00:15:27.040 course, there is the inquiry into the use of the Emergencies Act, there's all these inquiries going

00:15:30.700 on. And I mean, well, first of all, Pierre Polyev did not even he basically rubber stamped the Rouleau

00:15:38.500 Commission. After the use of the Emergencies Act, he did not challenge this conclusion, which essentially

00:15:44.140 said, Yeah, you can use the the Emergencies Act on a peaceful protest. You were part of that. Did you,

00:15:51.920 you gave testimony there, right? Yeah, I did. Yeah. And what, what was your feeling after?

00:15:59.280 There's a specific press conference that Pierre Polyev gave. And he, he spoke, he was kind of,

00:16:05.300 Hey, what did you think of the conclusion? And he tried to spin it in this way of like, Hey,

00:16:09.560 CBC, you're asking me a tough question, or like, you're being biased, but he didn't really say that

00:16:14.260 he stands with a treat, like he was asked, Do you regret standing with a truck or convoy? He did not

00:16:18.680 answer that question, which I feel is a very simple answer. And he essentially sort of tried

00:16:24.780 to be critical of the conclusion of the Rouleau Commission, but like he kind of just dropped it

00:16:28.160 after that. What was your, what was your, your perspective on that when that happened? Because

00:16:34.060 this is a pretty big deal. This is a pretty big deal. You know, there it's setting a legal precedent

00:16:38.460 in a way that you can now, you know, call the emergency on a pre-small protest. If you feel

00:16:43.520 like it, if there's honking going on, um, and absolutely like no violence or even vandalism

00:16:49.020 really that of any evidence at all, um, except against the convoy. That's right. That's right.

00:16:55.460 Mult. Yeah. There's a whole list when it comes to that. Yeah. A lot of video evidence, by the way,

00:17:00.660 evidence, keyword video evidence. Um, yeah, by, um, so my perspective about, uh, Pierre's

00:17:10.380 responses, you know, he is clearly an articulate speaker. He's always well prepared when he wants

00:17:19.120 to go after the government for something. Yep. And yet here is another example of him shying

00:17:25.440 away from a clear opportunity to speak truth to power and to speak truth to the media and with all

00:17:35.240 kinds of evidence to back it up. You know, even just from the commission itself, it was clear no

00:17:41.080 matter how much they tried to twist words from CSIS or the police agencies, not one of the major police

00:17:48.700 agencies involved. Ottawa police, OPP, RCMP testified that they believed the criteria for the emergencies

00:17:57.420 act had been met, nor did CSIS. And then they brought in their own, the prime minister's own

00:18:04.320 national security advisor to try and basically what her testimony summarized in my mind was I didn't like

00:18:11.860 what the dedicated intelligence agencies were giving me for intelligence. So I created my own open source

00:18:17.880 intelligence team to feed the narrative that these people were dangerous and therefore we needed the

00:18:24.620 emergencies act. And yet, you know, so the evidence was clear. They didn't meet the criteria. And even,

00:18:32.940 even Rouleau's conclusion was, was not super clear cut, right? Like it was like, well, you know,

00:18:41.960 and, and I kind of saw this coming. I anticipated that they were going to put a lot of the blame on the

00:18:47.140 police for inability to work effectively together. Because they, the police are typically the punching

00:18:54.080 bag after anything like this happens. But then there's also, I, you know, section two of the

00:19:00.160 CSIS Act was the criteria that they had to meet in order to be justified in invoking the, the

00:19:05.520 emergencies act. And it was testified to buy all of the national security agencies that were tested

00:19:12.460 involved there. The experts, the experts, if you will, the experts that were supposed to rely on

00:19:17.620 that it did not meet section two of the, of the CSIS Act. And then of course, what I anticipated coming,

00:19:24.460 which certainly did in the conclusion, or in the report was a recommendation that while perhaps we have

00:19:29.580 to expand the scope of the criteria beyond just such the narrow scope of section two of the CSIS Act in

00:19:37.920 order to invoke the emergent, to declare a national emergency and invoke the emergencies act. And

00:19:44.460 sorry, that's a, that's a long winded answer also, but again, clear cut evidence. They acted

00:19:52.640 inappropriately. They overstepped. You have an opportunity to take them to task with a lot of

00:19:57.920 evidence to support your argument. And you don't, because it's not politically popular anymore

00:20:04.620 to be, you know, in support of the trucker convoy. Yeah, no. And that I appreciate, you know,

00:20:12.580 it's not a long winded answer. It's a detailed answer. And these details are really, really important.

00:20:17.760 And, and it's, I feel it's silly or, you know, we should, we should wear a clown. We should put clown

00:20:23.400 makeup on Danny. If we're actually going to talk about this and say, Oh, there was, there's nothing

00:20:27.560 political about this decision. You know, like it's obviously this decision feels very political in

00:20:34.000 nature, especially when you compare it to the recent PSAC strike for the, you know, the public

00:20:39.340 service workers who were shutting things down, shutting some of the same infrastructure down

00:20:43.880 during their protest. And they were getting support from the media. They were getting all,

00:20:48.140 it was this kind of this great righteous protest for, for the public service workers who are asking

00:20:53.760 for more money, asking for more taxpayer money. And if you compare that to the way in which,

00:20:59.780 you know, the truckers were treated, well, here you have this, this new kind of strange legal precedent

00:21:05.560 where, you know, someone hired by Trudeau can now supersede the opinion of a CSIS member. And I think

00:21:13.500 you said the CSIS act, right? It's insane. And of course, who is talking about it? Who is challenging

00:21:19.400 this? Like, cause these are important details. These are the sort of the principles and the rules

00:21:23.920 that make up our rule of law. And also, you know, gives us a guide map or a guideline when these tricky

00:21:33.440 situations come up. And of course it's kind of come to the pattern of, Oh, well, if you're protesting

00:21:38.780 against us, against the government in a sort of meaningful way, well, we're going to kind of do

00:21:44.560 what we want and change the rules. However we like, at least that's the kind of message that I'm

00:21:48.240 receiving, uh, during all this. And I can't even imagine what it's like for you, who is actually

00:21:52.580 part of the RCMP at one point. Yeah. Well, I mean, one of the things I spoke to recently,

00:22:00.520 um, when I testified for the NCI was my loss of trust in institutions, including the RCMP and the

00:22:09.160 court system and everyone who's supposed to actually protect our rights and freedoms, you know,

00:22:14.800 especially, especially agencies like the RCMP and the courts and CSIS who are, you know, it you're

00:22:22.400 supposed to be intelligence and evidence led yet. You're just going along with a narrative that has

00:22:29.860 yet to really provide any solid, meaningful evidence to support what they're doing or even what they're

00:22:34.980 saying. But I'm not just talking about COVID mandates. I'm even talking about the way that

00:22:38.640 the reporting and the narrative surrounding the convoy itself, you know, you had, you know,

00:22:43.920 thankfully we had a few, uh, officers from the OPP who actually called that out a little bit,

00:22:52.540 right? Like, uh, the superintendent in charge of intelligence for all of Ontario

00:22:56.720 openly said that the, what he was seeing in the media did not match what was truly happening on the

00:23:03.300 ground. Anyway, um, going back though, like I was testifying to my loss of trust in these institutions

00:23:09.820 that are supposed to be intelligence led evidence led. And it seems like my, my, the message I'm

00:23:17.100 receiving is does evidence even matter anymore? Or is it all based on public opinion, manipulated

00:23:25.680 public opinion, corporate media, manipulated public opinion? And, you know, does the law even matter

00:23:34.540 anymore? Like the way that the law was written, you didn't meet the threshold. Oh, well, too bad. We'll

00:23:41.220 just change the law to suit our purposes. Like, like the charter itself, it's the, it's part of the

00:23:48.020 constitution, which is supposed to be the supreme law of Canada. And they, well, no, your, your rights and

00:23:54.360 freedoms aren't really rights and freedoms. It's more privileges is that that's, that's the impression

00:24:00.000 that I have come away with after the last three years.

00:24:04.100 Mm-hmm. Wow. Um, and yeah, maybe while we're on this topic of just like, you know, the failures,

00:24:11.720 uh, the epic failures of these institutions, uh, you know, part, part of the reason I started this

00:24:17.360 show controlled opposition is I feel like we saw the true character of this, um, you know,

00:24:24.360 Canadian regime, I call it sometimes now, uh, after the trucker convoy, because, you know, we had a

00:24:31.740 peaceful protest. We had this large demonstration in a democratic nation and there, there was no

00:24:37.320 negotiations. There was no sort of time of day for these people at all. Um, and of course it was met

00:24:44.940 with police violence. And I would love to hear your perspective on this because you are, you're a former

00:24:49.900 RCMP and you had the RCMP, uh, you know, on horses, literally crushing people, um, who opposed the

00:24:57.340 state. And, you know, after, after the dust was settled, it's like, we're just kind of moving on.

00:25:02.420 We're not going to talk about that happening, or we're going to justify everything that, that,

00:25:06.000 that, uh, was done. Um, you know, how, how is that? Because, you know, obviously you've, you've been

00:25:13.060 a RCMP member, you, you believed, you believe in this country, you believe in these institutions.

00:25:17.940 What was that like that, that horrible moment when you were getting thrown in a police car

00:25:23.140 at the convoy? Um, well, take me to that moment of just like, you know, how feeling, how far your

00:25:30.240 country had fallen in that moment? My, my personal arrest story was pretty low key. I, it actually,

00:25:41.920 I kind of had accepted the fact that as soon as they started arresting people like Chris and Tamara,

00:25:47.860 that I would be on that list. Um, it was much more bothersome to see the use of force that was used

00:25:56.180 against other protesters, like Chris Deering, the veteran who got kicked in need when he was down

00:26:02.320 on the ground, the horse trampling incident. And I actually not to defend the RCMP, but just for

00:26:09.180 accuracy sake, that was actually Toronto police mounted unit. Okay. But I know everyone thinks

00:26:15.520 it's the Mounties because they're on horseback and because it was the Mountie chat group that got

00:26:19.820 leaked afterwards. Right. Sorry, not the, a Mountie chat group from the musical ride, I believe

00:26:26.560 that we're tweeting all the horrible things about Jack boots on the ground, et cetera,

00:26:30.980 after the fact. Yeah. Hey, we should learn that. We should do that exercise or whatever it was.

00:26:35.400 Like very professional, very professional, you know, for something professionalism is supposed to

00:26:40.200 be one of our core values. And it's like, where's the professionalism in that? Right. Um, and I mean,

00:26:45.200 and it's, it's just like pure stupidity because I mean, one thing we all know that even if that

00:26:52.960 wasn't leaked, all of those communications are subject to an ATIP request, like just pure stupidity

00:27:00.280 to put something like that in a written form. But, um, well, it's almost like maybe they feel

00:27:06.460 they're above the law, right? They're, you know, they're, they're on the right side. They're on the

00:27:10.420 right team. They're going to get away with making comments like that. You clearly think that you're

00:27:14.680 in the right or that you're justified, right? Like if, if you felt gross about what was happening,

00:27:20.020 then you probably wouldn't be engaging in that type of conversation, right? You'd be trying to

00:27:25.900 avoid it at all costs. You'd be trying to find a way out of that situation. But, um, sorry, what was

00:27:33.580 your original question again? Like just how that, how that was for me as a former RCMP to see that

00:27:38.280 happen? Yeah, that was rough. That was a really hard pill to swallow. Um, you know, because Greg,

00:27:45.200 I I've, I've been to other major events and lots of other protests and I've seen the lack of police

00:27:53.700 response when protesters have been aggressive, both towards other people and like the opposing group

00:28:01.460 or towards the police. And, and then sort of see what I saw with the response against the trucker

00:28:11.000 convoy. I mean, I'll try and, when I saw them mass mobilizing that morning on the 18th,

00:28:20.320 I knew that, okay, this is it there. They've had enough. They're going to push through and they're

00:28:29.300 going to take trucks away. And I kind of, that to me would have personally would have probably been

00:28:35.260 a reasonable response. Like, okay, you're going to push and you're going to take ground and then

00:28:39.620 you're going to remove the trucks because you're trying to clear the protest. But all of the other

00:28:44.580 things that we saw, like the horse issue, the, you know, the, the physical violence and the, you know,

00:28:51.800 the strikes, the, the pepper spray, all that stuff, the butt end of the rifle. Yeah. Right. All of that

00:28:58.540 against people who were offering virtually no resistance other than just standing there and

00:29:04.020 letting themselves be pushed back. That was, that was, that was very upsetting to me. And that was hard

00:29:11.280 for me to watch. And that, that was one of those moments where I was like, how much worse can this

00:29:17.140 get? Like, where do we go from here? If this, if that, like, we had already seen other kind of, like,

00:29:24.820 like, nonsensical responses from police, you know, removing a mother from a hockey rink for refusing to

00:29:32.020 what, you know, refusing to show a vax pass because she was, wanted to watch her kid play hockey.

00:29:37.760 You know, we're watching that young Calgary kid get tackled or taken down to the ground because he

00:29:45.120 was, how dare he be outside skating on an outdoor rink playing pond hockey with his friends.

00:29:50.880 You know, like when, that's not criminal, but they made the, but they, they, they bought into the

00:29:56.480 propaganda that everyone was a, was a walking hazard, even though there was no evidence to support

00:30:03.180 that whatsoever. And, and what just bothers me to my core is like, almost every police officer that I

00:30:13.520 know, that I've been friends with or colleagues with in the past, we all know that government is

00:30:19.580 full of shit, pardon my language, and the media lies about everything. They twist everything to their

00:30:26.960 narrative. And so why, why the intense buy-in on this particular case? Like, why would people be

00:30:35.260 so willing to just hand over their, their rights and freedoms? I don't know that that's, that's been

00:30:45.960 a struggle for me. That's been the hardest part for me to reconcile, uh, from the last couple of years

00:30:51.200 just like, how could former colleagues be on board with this? Mm-hmm. Yes. So you're saying there's

00:30:57.960 kind of, there's always been this sentiment, um, even in the police force and the RCMP, that's like,

00:31:03.340 ah, you know, these politicians are maybe kind of, you know, obviously not a publicly held opinion,

00:31:07.820 but like people are like, yeah, you know, the, the politicians are kind of full of it and the media

00:31:12.060 kind of spins stuff. Uh, and I guess police officers kind of know this because they go on calls and then

00:31:18.380 they see how the calls are reported in the news and they're like, that's not what happened.

00:31:21.780 Yeah. Um, yeah, absolutely. So I guess that is, so I guess that's widespread. Everybody knows that

00:31:27.800 everybody knows that the government does what's best for the government and the media twists

00:31:31.960 everything to fit their narrative that they're trying to sell. Mm-hmm. They sell outrage and fear.

00:31:38.020 Yeah. And that is a great question. Why is this different? Why has this COVID thing been so

00:31:42.800 different? Why has there been such a, what I would call, I guess, a moral failing of so many people,

00:31:47.540 um, within these major institutions. Uh, and I, I want to bring up, I was watching another podcast

00:31:53.920 you were doing with Alex Kamana on Patriot propaganda, shout outs to Patriot propaganda.

00:31:59.480 And you brought up the fact that you were listening to, uh, an audio book for the book, uh, ordinary men,

00:32:05.280 uh, leading up to, uh, leading up to COVID. I think it was before COVID, but for those who don't know,

00:32:11.600 it's a disturbing tale of how a group of men went from ordinary to brutal hardened killers,

00:32:16.760 executing the Nazi mission during the Holocaust and examines in detail, the evolution of these

00:32:21.860 men's attitudes from the beginning, when most experienced discussed at the gruesome tasks,

00:32:26.720 they were asked to carry out through, through to the end when almost all had become accustomed

00:32:31.280 to the cruelty. And some even came to delight in it above all, it's a warning and a reminder of what

00:32:36.820 humanity is capable of in its darkest moments. Um, and I think in the podcast, you were saying how

00:32:44.580 you were listening to this book and thinking, I never want to be, uh, that guy. Like, I hope it

00:32:50.280 never comes to that, which is crazy that, that you listened to this right before COVID happened.

00:32:56.980 That's a, so I was listening to that audio book while I was doing like a personal construction

00:33:02.000 project back in 2020 when I was in my, on my days off. Okay. And then, um, and even prior to that,

00:33:09.420 actually, when I was in, uh, Papua New Guinea as part of the PM's protection detail,

00:33:15.160 I was actually reading the book 1984. So, I mean, I, a lot of things were aligning to kind of

00:33:22.440 create the mindset that I needed, I guess, to say like, what is happening in Canada? Why,

00:33:27.880 why is it, why is no one actually looking at evidence and willing to say anything truthful?

00:33:34.080 But, um, yeah, so ordinary men, I think the reason why that resonated with me so much is like,

00:33:40.580 cause that wasn't just like Hitler youth people who grew up like being indoctrinated with the,

00:33:47.940 the Nazi propaganda and the Nazi ideology. Sure. They were, they were just regular citizens,

00:33:53.720 mostly from Hamburg, Germany, if I remember correctly. And they got sucked in to a reserve

00:34:00.260 police battalion as part of the, as part of the German war effort. And they kind of were tasked

00:34:06.640 with cleaning out the ghettos in Poland after the war machine had moved through. And yeah, I remember

00:34:13.060 I listened to that book. It was a recommended reading from Jordan Peterson. And so I listened

00:34:19.440 to it and it was horrifying. It was grotesque. What these men let themselves become because they

00:34:25.320 were unwilling to say no, when they saw things that were horribly vile and wrong. And I remember

00:34:32.840 thinking to myself, my exact thoughts were, I hope I would at least be strong enough to resist and say

00:34:40.980 no, but more likely someone of my background and training, like, no, I would be part of the resistance.

00:34:48.900 Like I would be, you know, trying to get people out of there. I'd be trying to extract people out of

00:34:53.880 those situations, or I'd be like, ambushing Nazis in the bush, like, you know, the movie Defiance,

00:34:58.940 like something of that nature.

00:35:01.100 Mm-hmm. Yeah. And when it comes to the, you know, the moral failings or the kind of

00:35:08.680 the conflicts that these men have in this book, what do you think the comparisons are to, you know,

00:35:17.020 what's happening within, you know, many institutions in Canada, but maybe let's just use the police force

00:35:22.480 as an example, because during the convoy, we had this one young woman who was a police officer who

00:35:28.440 made a video saying, Hey, I support the truckers. And maybe there's like a few other police officers

00:35:33.780 that you could count on one hand that stood up to say something. And I'm pretty sure they, I don't

00:35:37.980 know, maybe you can fill in the details. I don't know how much, how many consequences they faced

00:35:41.500 for daring to stand up to this. But why don't you think there were more police officers or RCMP

00:35:49.220 officers like yourself who kind of said, I'm out, like, this is not right. This is not what I signed

00:35:54.960 up for. This is not me helping my country. Well, I think there was, I do think there was a lot more

00:36:01.420 that left than are publicly known, right? Yeah, like, you're correct in saying, like, just a small

00:36:07.640 handful spoke out publicly. But I know, the there was a, there's been an exodus from the police

00:36:17.780 community in Canada over what happened with COVID mandates and the trucker convoy. I think we actually

00:36:25.540 have a much larger support base than is publicly known. But again, it's kind of that, like, silent

00:36:34.760 supporters, you know, which, as much as it is appreciated, it's also like, well, what are

00:36:40.840 you doing? Like, are you at least, like, trying to fight back against this on the inside, like

00:36:46.120 internally? And that's what I try and encourage them to do. Because, you know, to go against the

00:36:52.320 grain publicly, you're pretty much guaranteeing that that's the end of your career. But, you

00:36:58.040 know, internally is a different story. And so I just, I guess my message to them would be

00:37:05.140 like, you have so much more power and authority than you think you do. Like, you think you're

00:37:11.320 beholden to these, these, you know, senior managers, but they cannot exist, the police force

00:37:18.320 cannot function without the people on the ground, right? It's much like Canadian citizens

00:37:22.620 as a whole. Like, the government has authority over you because of your compliance with their

00:37:28.000 demands. Whereas, you know, they don't have the ability to enforce their, they don't have

00:37:36.980 the ability to enforce their will on everyone. If enough people were just like, nope, not doing

00:37:43.720 it. That's crossed the line. I guess, probably, but sorry, to answer your question, I think

00:37:54.260 the reason why we didn't see more people speaking out against it publicly was, you know, pay and

00:37:59.920 pension is part of it, for sure. Like job security, which I can sympathize with, because the last

00:38:06.700 two years has been a real slog. And it's, there's been many moments where I've questioned what

00:38:13.160 I did, if it was the right thing to do, you know, I think it was morally, it was the right

00:38:18.260 thing to do. But it's had a really, it's had a serious impact on my family, for sure. But

00:38:25.920 um, and I think even, maybe even more so than the, the pay, like loss of income, loss of career,

00:38:35.600 is that social alienation. Because anyone who, anyone who questioned the narrative, even if they

00:38:43.540 were very reasonable and trying to always present evidence to support their argument against their

00:38:49.460 government's policies, was smeared as like, you know, right wing extremist, ideological, motivated,

00:38:59.780 violent extremist, you know, conspiracy theorist, anti-vaxxer, you know, all kinds of

00:39:05.780 pejorative names. And that, that makes people, very few people are comfortable with being attacked like

00:39:16.340 that publicly. And just carrying on like that, that I think that those intimidation tactics work

00:39:22.900 pretty well on most people. Yeah. And, and speaking of that, you know, speaking, getting called all of

00:39:30.020 these names, um, a recent tweet from CSIS says, I M V E, which stands for ideologically motivated

00:39:38.420 violent extremism is fueled by extreme views around race, gender and authority. And, um, I mean, how does it

00:39:46.180 feel to be a former RCMP? Someone who stood up for the peoples against mandates, you know, stood up for

00:39:53.940 bodily autonomy. And then in a way, you know, it's, it's not too far away from being accused yourself

00:40:01.060 being accused as being part of an I M V E. Like, like you immediately you stand up for your country.

00:40:06.500 And in a way you're being vilified by almost like your, your former colleagues, uh, over there at CSIS.

00:40:13.860 Um, well, well, I, I, part of me knows that I've never done anything to fit the true criteria of what

00:40:26.740 an I M V E would be. And I've never promoted violence. I've never promoted hatred of any kind.

00:40:32.100 I, but I have no doubt that I was investigated as such. And so again, it's just, where's your evidence?

00:40:40.660 What, what evidence are guiding your actions? Like you need to really think about that. Like evidence

00:40:47.620 is supposed to matter. And it did in, in my perspective previously, it did matter, but

00:40:54.660 we're, you know, when people talk about like Orwellian future, like it definitely seems like

00:41:04.740 we're kind of on a trajectory of, you know, new, like, I'll give you an example, like new,

00:41:11.620 new speak. Remember that? Have you ever read that book? 1984? I have. Yeah. Speak. New speak. Yeah.

00:41:16.820 Like, uh, I, you're constantly hearing like misinformation, disinformation and I like that.

00:41:22.100 Those are relatively new terms that just came about within the last few years. And it's like,

00:41:26.180 really, what does it mean? Like information is information. Neither it's accurate or it's not.

00:41:31.940 So why are you, but, but it's just, it's just another tactic to try and like divide and smear

00:41:37.460 people. That's all it is. And so I feel like I don't, I know, honestly, this might sound jaded,

00:41:49.700 but I just don't have a whole lot of faith in the RCMP and the CSIS and CSIS or the DND even for that

00:41:57.060 matter. Like, I know that there's lots of people that probably work for those organizations that are

00:42:02.500 good, hardworking people to join for the right reasons. Like, I know that's true. I've worked

00:42:07.140 with them, but the leadership or the people in charge of those institutions are just buying right

00:42:15.140 in to the, to this woke Marxist type mindset. You know, we're gonna, we have to, it's more and more

00:42:26.660 centralized control. Right. And it's, you forget about reality, forget about what real evidence

00:42:33.460 says. We're just, you tell us what policy you want us to implement government and we'll go along with it.

00:42:41.940 I totally agree with you. And, and it's, this is this, you know, to use the term woke to make it

00:42:51.220 simple. It's like this sort of mentality, this Marxist mentality, this, this corrupted

00:42:56.660 sort of a value system that's in a way antithetical to nationalism and actually being truly Canadian.

00:43:05.140 Uh, it is infecting all these major institutions, but you know, Pierre Polyev, the leader of the

00:43:10.820 conservative party, the opposition is saying, you know, we're against the woke, you know,

00:43:14.180 we're going to stop the woke. We're against the woke. And it's like, well, Pierre Polyev,

00:43:18.100 CSIS is starting to say stuff that is woke. You know, the military is starting to say, say stuff and

00:43:23.780 have these values that are woke. Um, obviously you're not going to talk about that because, uh,

00:43:29.060 I don't know, I guess it's not good political strategy, but, um, you know, this is why I really

00:43:34.340 believe that it's much bigger than the next election. If we really want to turn this country

00:43:38.100 around, it's much bigger than the next election because, you know, the opposition is not going

00:43:45.060 to be able to change the face and the value system of CSIS and RCMP, uh, once they get elected,

00:43:51.380 at least if they were planning on doing that, why wouldn't they be talking about that now?

00:43:55.860 You know, that's a good question. I, uh,

00:44:01.380 I think that those organizations are very prone to trying to appease the government of the day.

00:44:08.500 So I think if there was some concrete government policy that might have an impact

00:44:14.100 on those institutions, but I think it's like you said, the election is just one piece, right? Like

00:44:22.180 the current government of the day is just one part of the solution. I think as a whole, our society has

00:44:29.700 citizens have abdicated their responsibility to stand up for themselves and say that something is

00:44:38.740 not true when they believe it's not true, you know, and to, and to be actively interested and involved

00:44:45.460 in what, you know, what is happening at the local provincial and federal levels of government and

00:44:52.100 public policy, because it does, you know, it does, it has an impact on your life. I know people are very

00:44:57.620 busy and you don't, well, not many people are interested in politics. And truthfully, I'm, I was one of those

00:45:04.660 people for a lot of my life. But at the end of the day, their policies do impact your life. Now,

00:45:17.380 I'm trying to adopt the mindset that I'm not going to count on any politician to come save the day on

00:45:25.300 my behalf. And it's on me. It's all on me and my family to make sure that we are independent and

00:45:32.420 resilient, and that we focus on our time and attention on building the life we want, as opposed

00:45:40.820 to constantly worrying about what some talking head in Ottawa, or in the provincial legislator,

00:45:47.700 legislature is saying. Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah. As Jeremy McKenzie says, expect to self rescue,

00:45:56.740 or maybe that's a reference to a military term. But I think that's certainly a great mentality.

00:46:05.940 I don't think you should put too much faith in any politician, especially if they're part of the

00:46:10.500 establishment. And especially if they've proven that they, that they're playing all these weird

00:46:15.780 games of not being straight up honest, and not really proving themselves to have moral character.

00:46:21.460 And, you know, this conservative party, man, where is their moral character? You know,

00:46:28.180 of course, they're concerned about the price of milk, they're concerned about finances. But with

00:46:34.100 everything that's happened over the past three years, they don't seem to be able to take any sort

00:46:38.580 of moral stance on anything. I mean, especially when it comes to the COVID stuff, they're acting like

00:46:46.260 the establishment, like it never even happened. Like the National Citizens Inquiry, for example.

00:46:51.140 You know, this is an organization, a great organization you testified at, that's kind of

00:46:56.020 collecting all the receipts, collecting all the evidence of the wrongdoing, of the incompetence,

00:47:01.300 of the potential corruption, of the potential criminality of what's happened over the past three

00:47:06.500 years of this government responding to COVID. And the conservative party is not going to touch it.

00:47:12.340 They're not going to touch it. You know, they, they like to talk about the inquiry into the use

00:47:16.820 of the Emergencies Act. They like to talk about the the inquiry into the election interference,

00:47:22.100 but they're not going to talk about the, the inquiry, the National Citizens Inquiry,

00:47:26.980 that's actually going to try and hold this government accountable with all of these very

00:47:32.180 questionable decisions they've made over the past, over the past three years, right?

00:47:36.180 Well, I think, I'm sure they probably have a team of strategists that are advising what to speak,

00:47:46.580 what, what is safe to speak about and what's not when you're, I guess, the end goal is trying to

00:47:51.940 appeal to the widest voter base as possible. And so that's why some topics are taboo and some aren't,

00:48:00.580 even if it's, you know, I think it, securing the number of votes is more important than saying

00:48:09.700 it's true. Or, yeah, no, I'll leave it at that, than saying what's true. It's more important to

00:48:16.820 get the right amount of votes to secure the election victory than it is to speak the truth.

00:48:22.180 Right. And, and I, I agree, like that's what their strategy is. But I guess my problem with that

00:48:29.940 is it's about the party winning power. And this party hasn't really proven to me that they are

00:48:37.220 going to help the people, you know, that they weren't there to fight the mandates when it was

00:48:41.060 important. They haven't even really stood up to political prisoners after the convoy, even though they

00:48:48.180 use the convoy or at least Pierre Polyev used the convoy to gain popularity, to win his leadership

00:48:54.020 race for the conservative party. So, um, I don't know more and more. And I say this on the show a

00:48:59.300 lot. I really feel, you know, as much as I detest, uh, and vilify Justin Trudeau, um, there is this sort

00:49:06.820 of gross dishonesty that's coming from Pierre Polyev because he is kind of telling an even worse lie.

00:49:11.700 You know, he's saying that he's going to fight the woke. He's staying,

00:49:14.100 he's going to like save us from Trudeau. But on some of the worst issues, he is the same, uh,

00:49:20.580 as Trudeau. But, um, we, uh, we, we are going to wrap it up here shortly. I did want to kind of give

00:49:27.860 you, um, just one, probably one of the worst examples of something that, um, Pierre Polyev will

00:49:33.940 not talk about liberals burn Bible during a fire ban in Calgary and get caught. So we have people

00:49:49.700 burning Bibles over in, um, uh, at a demonstration with Josh Alexander. And, uh, you know, the,

00:49:57.300 the very next day there was a tweet from Pierre Polyev who was condemning something that was like

00:50:02.340 Islamophobic happening. And you know, that's fine. If he wants to tweet about that, but like,

00:50:07.220 we have a viral video here of Bibles being burned. And for some reason, Pierre Polyev is not standing

00:50:14.820 up for this young Catholic kid, Josh Alexander. What, what, what do you think is, uh, is going on here?

00:50:22.180 Why is this something that, uh, Pierre Polyev seems to refuse to talk about?

00:50:26.580 Well, I mean, I suspect that it's because Josh took his, Josh Alexander's initial stand was in

00:50:36.420 opposition to gender ideology in school, right? Like, I think his, his origin story of when he

00:50:43.380 kind of became public was he was, he got suspended, I think, for saying in class that he believed that

00:50:49.460 there was only two genders. And I think he was opposed to, um, like transgender boys using the

00:50:57.460 female washroom at the school. I think that's kind of how his story started. Correct. And so again,

00:51:03.380 that's another one of those political hot potatoes that a lot of politicians are probably hoping that

00:51:08.820 you're not going to ask them questions about because it's a, it's a sensitive topic which they

00:51:13.540 will be attacked for in the media. If they answer, you know, if they give the incorrect answer,

00:51:20.740 as opposed to just, I don't know, I, maybe I'm too simplistic in my thinking, but

00:51:28.260 if I had any desire to be a politician, I would try and take the approach, like, hey, you ask me a

00:51:33.940 question, I'll answer. If you like it, great, vote for me. If you don't, then don't vote for me,

00:51:37.940 vote for someone else. I'm not going to change who I am to appease the mob.

00:51:45.380 Yeah, that's right. And, um, it's, it's, it's funny that, oh, I guess he doesn't want to talk

00:51:51.140 about that topic. It's a hot potato. And it's like, but Pierre, you're supposed to be fighting

00:51:55.060 the woke man. You're not gonna, you're not gonna stand up for this, uh, for this Catholic who's

00:52:00.740 basically doing exactly that. Right, man. Um, well, I guess it's, you know, that in the,

00:52:09.540 in the woke circles, people are more equal than others. And maybe in other circles,

00:52:15.700 some people are more woke than others or some issues are more woke than others.

00:52:19.060 Yeah. Yeah. There's, there's a whole hierarchy of woke. Right. Um, but, uh, we will wrap it up here

00:52:26.900 shortly, but I, I did kind of want to go in on, on a deep topic with yourself because, you know,

00:52:31.220 as someone who has been a member of the RCMP and really, really put your, your, your heart,

00:52:38.420 sweat and tears and blood into, into this nation as an RCMP officer and kind of sought, um, you know,

00:52:45.540 saw these institutions fail in an epic way. I just, uh, I want to take us back to, to the convoy for a

00:52:52.100 minute and how there was this amazing grassroots movement, groundswell of support. A lot of veterans,

00:53:00.260 uh, came out as well. And there was, they kind of communed around the, uh, the war memorial,

00:53:06.020 taking care of it, making sure it was nice and clean the whole time. And of course,

00:53:09.860 at one point, the powers that be said, we're going to put fences around this, uh,

00:53:14.180 memorial because it's, you know, it's being, they made up some nonsense. Um, but of course the,

00:53:20.980 the veterans showed up, teamed up and, and very, uh, courteously and very, uh, orderly. They, uh,

00:53:27.300 you know, took the fence down and I thought that was a very kind of symbolic thing that happened

00:53:31.380 there. But, um, what these, uh, veterans, what these Canadian veterans were, were exercising,

00:53:37.140 I think is, is the honor that they have for the sacrifices made from, you know, previous generations

00:53:45.380 of Canadians and Canadian veterans who, who made these sorts of sacrifices. And that word honor

00:53:50.820 really, uh, really sticks with me. Cause when I think about the, the police officers or the,

00:53:56.500 you know, the, the members of these institutions that are doing it for the paycheck, they're doing

00:54:01.060 it for their pension, you know, it's like, well, well, what about the honor that you have for

00:54:06.980 the country that you live in and for this, you know, what it's supposed to mean to be Canadian,

00:54:12.020 what it's supposed to mean to be part of this Canadian institution. And this is kind of a big

00:54:17.060 quest, big, deep kind of question, but I guess, do you have any sort of, uh, you know, theories or,

00:54:23.700 or kind of, uh, comments to share on what has happened to Canadians? Like, do they not honor

00:54:30.740 their nation anymore? Um, what do you, what do you think is kind of like the, the, the spiritual

00:54:37.540 problem that we're experiencing here? Or do you think it's a spiritual one? Um,

00:54:41.540 yeah. What, what are your, what are your thoughts on that? What do you think is kind of part of the

00:54:47.540 issue here? Well, I'll just speak to my experience and perspective from the policing world. I think the

00:54:59.300 vast majority of people who join a police service do so with that honor in mind. Now, what happens to

00:55:08.100 you over the course of years of a career is you get beat down over and over again, nonstop by, you know,

00:55:19.540 some members of the public, a lot of the media, some of the government, like people who will capitalize

00:55:26.020 on an, on a situation for political gain. And you eventually, my personal experience is that over

00:55:34.900 time you get jaded and you start to question like, what am I even doing this for? And then, but you've

00:55:41.860 made a life for yourself, a career for yourself. You're comfortable, you know, you have, you have

00:55:46.580 job security, you have a decent paycheck and you, even if you're not, you know, some people are,

00:55:52.900 maintain a passion for police work throughout their career. And there was, there was things I was

00:55:58.660 definitely really enjoyed about my job. And there was other things that were less exciting. But

00:56:06.900 I've seen a lot of police officers get hammered by their own police force for doing exactly what they

00:56:13.620 were trained to do, because there was a political gain to be made from it either by a politician or a

00:56:21.540 senior officer who was looking to, you know, earn brownie points with the politicians or special

00:56:29.540 interest groups. So, and I think that that might be somewhat true of some veterans too, if they become

00:56:38.900 disillusioned with why they went and fought wars. But I, I, my personal experience from policing,

00:56:45.300 and from what I saw other police officers endure was they join because they want to be a good cop.

00:56:53.300 And even when they get beat down, they can still maintain a degree of that, but it does jade you

00:57:00.820 over time. You start to wonder, like, I know I thought that many times, like, what am I even doing

00:57:05.620 this for? Like, am I even making a difference? Like, I'm just, I just feel like I'm running around,

00:57:11.060 putting out, like, you know, figuratively putting out fires or putting a band-aid solution on things.

00:57:18.420 And like, the courts don't seem to care. A good percentage of the time, the victims don't seem to

00:57:24.740 care. And everyone says, I'm the bad guy. Like, what, what am I doing in this profession?

00:57:31.220 Hmm. Thank you. Thank you for sharing that. So to wrap it up, let's talk about some solutions. I

00:57:41.540 think you really nailed it earlier when you said, you know, I'm going to work to become self-reliant

00:57:47.220 for myself and my family, because I don't think any politician is really, I don't think it's their top

00:57:52.900 priority to really take care of me or take care of us. Outside of that, outside of your own kind of

00:57:57.700 personal efforts to be self-sufficient, are there any solutions that you see that are viable? Any

00:58:05.780 organizations that you think are kind of forming that show some promise to kind of help get this

00:58:12.820 country back on track? I know you mentioned the National Citizens Inquiry, but aside from that,

00:58:20.420 what are you seeing for the future of Canada that is promising and inspiring?

00:58:23.860 Well, I think there's a far greater percentage of the population that is engaged in what's happening

00:58:34.660 on a political level and a societal level because of what we've seen these last few years,

00:58:39.620 the infringements on rights and freedoms these last few years. Definitely. And I think the resurgence,

00:58:46.500 or maybe not resurgence, but the surge in new independent media voices because everyone is so

00:58:54.180 tired of the propaganda machines of the corporate media, that's encouraging because it's just more and

00:58:59.700 more avenues for less biased information, you know, unbiased information or more truthful information to

00:59:08.260 get out to the public. Yeah. I think, you know, the NCI, I think people have been critical of it, asking,

00:59:16.900 like, you know, what power do they actually have? And, you know, we don't know what impact

00:59:24.580 it will ultimately have. But at the very least, it's a, as it was explained to me by one of my favorite

00:59:32.020 witnesses on there so far, Rodney Palmer, like it is a, probably the single greatest catalog of evidence

00:59:39.700 of the harm that was done by this response, and the impact that it's had on Canadians. And so I'm

00:59:46.740 hopeful that maybe some, some politicians might actually take it seriously. But at the very least,

00:59:55.700 there is a whole catalog of testimony there that could potentially be used in legal proceedings,

00:59:59.780 whether that's lawsuits, or maybe even potentially criminal charges in the future.

01:00:06.900 I think we got the receipts, we got a stack of receipts that we're going to be cashing in,

01:00:13.620 hopefully in the future, when the push comes to shove. It seems that things operate on a bit of

01:00:19.300 a pendulum. And I think we've gone so far, we're, we're, we're at the breaking point of where people

01:00:26.100 have had enough. And there has to be a correction. Right? I think, you know, and what was a conspiracy

01:00:33.620 theory two years ago was openly being reported on even in mainstream media now, you know, the Great

01:00:38.340 Reset being the most recent example that I can think of. And it's like, more people are waking up,

01:00:45.940 more people are paying attention. It's just it's a gradual process. But I think one, I guess, kind of

01:00:54.820 solution that I'm trying to preach to people beyond like, first of all, take care of your own health,

01:01:00.740 like physical, mental, spiritual, emotional health, because I know that has been a major challenge for

01:01:07.220 me. Like I let a lot of my healthy habits fall away over the last two years. And now I'm trying to

01:01:11.860 slowly kind of make myself healthy again. And the personal responsibility and independence, like I'm

01:01:21.860 trying my best to make myself as independent as possible from government and from banking,

01:01:26.740 and from the banking system. Because the government, you know, I've made that mistake by putting all my

01:01:33.780 eggs in a government job government career basket. And then I also have seen what it how easily the banks

01:01:40.980 will freeze your bank account at the request of the government even without any due process or

01:01:47.140 criminal charges. And then a third, it's all about communication. You know, we all have to deal with

01:01:56.740 we're all trying to navigate like a sensor heavy environment. And so I encourage people to like,

01:02:03.140 as much as you can free speech platforms, right? I know that might be difficult for some with like,

01:02:08.340 you know, if their business is geared around YouTube or Instagram, but for me, it's like,

01:02:13.460 I'm trying my best to only support freedom oriented businesses. And that includes how I communicate

01:02:19.620 with people. And then on a more micro level, mass communication for me, I don't think it's really

01:02:27.940 changed a whole lot from two years ago. You know, I think a lot of the people who follow me now were the

01:02:32.420 same people who followed me back then. Sorry, it's going to rain really heavy here and be loud.

01:02:37.860 But I'm trying to focus more on the individual connections and conversations with people that

01:02:44.740 can't be censored by big tech and by government. So that involves being willing to push outside your

01:02:53.060 comfort zone and have a difficult conversation with people who, you know, maybe you had a relationship

01:03:00.100 with in the past, and you would like to repair it or retain it. You know, there's a lot of,

01:03:07.700 there's a lot of pretty well summarized information out there now that you could

01:03:13.380 bring to their attention and say, Hey, look, you know, who I am, you knew who I was before all this,

01:03:19.220 I didn't change. Well, I mean, I didn't, I didn't fall off the deep end here. Here's something I can

01:03:28.180 show you that is a good summary of why I did what I did. So I guess just focusing more at a local level.

01:03:37.460 Yeah, yeah. And try to rebuild that, that sense of belonging, that sense of community

01:03:43.300 that I feel was really under attack during, during lockdowns and everything. Yep. But Daniel,

01:03:50.340 thanks so much for being on the show. You can follow Daniel at Bulford Daniel on Twitter. Here's

01:03:58.580 the Twitter here. Is there anything else that you wanted to plug or wanted to say before we get going?

01:04:04.020 No, not really. That's, I'm pretty much an independent now. And that's pretty much the only

01:04:09.380 platform I really use that would be like a, a more mainstream platform. I've dabbled with

01:04:14.980 telegram and some others, but, uh, I'm trying to minimize my time on social media these days because

01:04:21.460 it's a time suck and it just takes up all of your time and energy and makes you angry about the world.

01:04:27.060 So I'm trying to find a better balance with that. That's, that's really good advice. And I, and I,

01:04:33.620 I'm with you there. I'm with you there. I'm definitely focusing on the exercise and putting the phone

01:04:37.860 down every now and then to, you know, to enjoy, uh, you know, not the chaos, I guess. But, um,

01:04:44.660 thank you so much for being on the show. Thank you for your service, of course. And, uh, most of all,

01:04:50.100 thank you for setting, uh, setting in a positive example, um, you know, of a Canadian man who is

01:04:55.700 doing the right thing, even if it's not comfortable, but, uh, thanks for being on the show.

01:05:00.260 Thank you very much. Thanks, Greg.

01:05:01.700 And for everyone watching, it is okay to demand higher standards. Thanks for watching guys.

01:05:07.860 we're going to be hearing more of you.

Greg Wycliffe - May 26, 2023

Danny Bulford Ex-RCMP joins the Resistance against Canada's corrupt Establishment ｜ Controlled Op 19

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