Greg Wycliffe - April 29, 2025


Election Aftermath： What's next for conservative Canadians？


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On this episode of the podcast, we discuss the recent election results and what we can learn from them. We also discuss the impact of Pierre Polyvorev's campaign and why we should be worried about foreign interference in our elections.

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00:00:00.000 If there's one lesson we learned from this election, I hope it's that, that, you know,
00:00:04.440 being a pandering pussy does not work. 1.00
00:00:08.280 We saw it with Shear, we saw it with O'Toole, and we saw it with Polyev.
00:00:13.080 Sure, Polyev was a little bit better, but he had so much to work with.
00:00:16.260 It has me asking the question, like, has the Polyev hype been a net positive?
00:00:23.760 Because on one hand, I've seen some content creators who have been like, you know,
00:00:27.340 coming out into the fray, supporting Polyev, making good content, trying to educate more, like,
00:00:31.920 middle-of-the-road, normie, center-left liberal types with content, and I think that's good.
00:00:38.460 I think it's probably gotten more people into the fray for politics for the first time.
00:00:42.640 However, I feel like Polyev has had an effect where the more, I don't want to say radical necessarily,
00:00:47.840 but, like, the more out there, like, advocates, people, like, people from Cosbar,
00:00:55.000 we have, I don't know how to pronounce your name, is it Esme?
00:00:57.080 We follow each other, but she was speaking earlier from Cosbar, and, yeah,
00:01:03.000 or people like Billboard Chris, who are advocating for, you could call it a niche topic,
00:01:07.040 but it is a strong conservative topic where people were showing up in droves,
00:01:10.840 like, bodies in the streets.
00:01:13.740 It's interesting to, like, you know, it's an interesting question to ask, like,
00:01:16.940 has this Polyev hype kind of, like, killed or died down that energy of people going after
00:01:23.320 these further right issues with less people showing up?
00:01:27.580 Because with the Polyev hype has this effect where it's like, well, Polyev's going to take
00:01:31.220 care of everything.
00:01:32.200 He's going to win.
00:01:32.860 I can just sit on the couch.
00:01:33.800 I just have to vote on April 28th.
00:01:35.660 I don't have to do anything.
00:01:37.280 And this is really, like, a major problem that this attitude that has affected Canadians
00:01:43.520 that I've noticed since following politics for a little while now, which is,
00:01:47.040 in a democracy, like, in a free, democratic society, we feel like our only civic engagement,
00:01:56.100 our only civic obligation is writing an X on a ballot box for five seconds every four years.
00:02:03.660 And to contrast that, you have international students, you have the foreign workers,
00:02:08.980 they don't even have citizenship.
00:02:10.860 They don't even have citizenship, and they're out in the streets protesting to change the rules 0.96
00:02:15.160 in Canada, and they don't even have citizenship here.
00:02:18.500 But even they are using their, you know, the democratic system of protesting and organizing
00:02:24.720 and asking for things.
00:02:26.460 Yeah, I mean, the fact that foreign interference didn't come up was, is quite alarming.
00:02:31.240 You know, it's like, wait, there could be 11 traitors in parliament, and we're still
00:02:34.260 going to vote, and we're not going to talk about that.
00:02:35.960 Absolutely.
00:02:36.560 But I think in general, just to kind of jump off of that, and this is the last thing I'll
00:02:39.320 say is, I would like to see more, like, healthy disagreement among people who are, whatever,
00:02:46.160 freedom fighters further to the right.
00:02:49.660 And, like, this, because I feel like there was a lot of gatekeeping that happened with
00:02:53.640 Pierre Polyev CPC camp, like, leading up to this election, where they're like, no, no,
00:02:57.420 we're not talking to them because they're not on board with our chicken shit strategy of
00:03:02.760 being a conservative.
00:03:03.360 Almost like not.
00:03:03.900 If there's anyone to blame broadly of why the country sucks, it's the failure of the
00:03:10.120 news industry, like, without a doubt.
00:03:11.680 They're supposed to hold these people accountable.
00:03:13.520 We can learn a lot from some of Trump's strategies, because as crazy as he may seem to some people,
00:03:19.060 he's done some clever things.
00:03:21.200 And one of the things he's done from the start is he doesn't pander to anyone, especially the
00:03:27.340 media.
00:03:27.640 In fact, the most vicious strategy he has is just running like a bull head on into the
00:03:36.000 media, you know?
00:03:37.420 And when he does that, they can't pretend he doesn't exist, right?
00:03:42.600 And everybody knows.
00:03:43.540 How do you do that in Canada, right?
00:03:45.400 When all of them are subject, right?
00:03:48.640 It's not just half of them.
00:03:51.160 How do you do that?
00:03:52.500 I totally agree with Dale Tomics here, which is like that this phenomenon that happened
00:03:58.560 in the States has been transformative for like so much of I don't want to exaggerate,
00:04:07.260 but like so much of the world, like, you know, Trump coming out and saying things that were
00:04:12.100 racist, just saying them anyway.
00:04:15.720 And that was not the end of his campaign, guys.
00:04:18.260 That was the beginning of Trump's campaign.
00:04:20.440 That was the beginning of Trump's campaign.
00:04:22.500 The news calling him racist, that became a daily thing for basically four years, and
00:04:27.120 people love him.
00:04:28.220 But what I'm talking about specifically is Trump coming out and saying fake news and undermining
00:04:35.460 the credibility of these legacy media outlets.
00:04:39.780 That whole phenomenon has been transformative for a lot of different people.
00:04:44.780 And the problem here in Canada is that hasn't happened yet.
00:04:47.820 For some reason, all this all these legacy organizations, their credibility has not been properly attacked and properly undermined front faced with a big bull character like Trump.
00:05:00.720 And, you know, it's sure you could say I'm silly.
00:05:03.960 I mean, Canada is different.
00:05:05.340 I mean, America is different.
00:05:06.340 You know, we don't have a Trump.
00:05:08.340 And that's true, but I agree, but still, but still like that is what needs to happen in some capacity.
00:05:15.680 Maybe the American iteration of Trump is calling you 2.0 going to be because he said he's not going to step down.
00:05:23.300 Greg, what do you think?
00:05:25.300 So when starting this campaign, I started a website, savefreespeech.ca.
00:05:32.000 It was to educate people on Bill C-63 while making this content to educate people about the laws and about Bill C-63.
00:05:41.360 And, hey, this is why this bill is bad, blah, blah, blah.
00:05:44.280 I noticed that there's a very, very troubling cultural undercurrent, a cultural trend that's kind of an even bigger problem, which is Canadians are too afraid to even use their free speech.
00:05:57.640 You know, it's like we don't actually have the sort of posture and attitude to even fight for free speech.
00:06:03.060 We're not even using it.
00:06:05.000 Yeah.
00:06:05.340 Like Greg's really on to something with that.
00:06:07.300 What we've been talking about for six years now is normalizing the conversation.
00:06:12.220 Six years ago, people didn't even know the words to use, and we provided those words, and we provided the framing of the conversation with them.
00:06:22.620 And getting large groups of people to normalize these conversations and these phrases, it's not shocking anymore.
00:06:31.380 But back then, it was still shocking to people who even didn't agree with transgenderism.
00:06:36.880 And they'd be like, oh, you can't say that.
00:06:38.900 You're going to get in trouble.
00:06:39.820 Like, what are you, in fucking high school?
00:06:42.100 Yeah, we're going to say it because it's true, right?
00:06:45.700 So we do have to normalize conversation.
00:06:49.160 I just want to jump off that point real quick just because people, you know, it's easy to feel demoralized and feel like, oh, man, nothing is possible.
00:06:57.240 It's never going to work.
00:06:59.260 Have you ever heard the World Economic Forum phrase, you will own nothing and you will be happy?
00:07:05.200 This is such a crazy goal to have.
00:07:07.700 This is such a crazy vision.
00:07:09.380 But these, you know, elite psychopaths, they're like repeating it and they're saying it and they're repeating it and they're repeating it and they're saying it.
00:07:15.600 And like, they have all these people trying to will this into existence, okay?
00:07:20.040 But this is how you make stuff happen.
00:07:21.580 Because before COVID, they're like, we're going to make everybody locked down and wear masks.
00:07:25.880 And if you don't wear a mask, we're going to say you're a psychopath far right winger.
00:07:28.940 And they're like, that's crazy.
00:07:29.940 That's never going to happen.
00:07:30.780 It took like three weeks, took three weeks of media propaganda for people to be like, okay, I'm just going to wear a mask for the rest of my life and be terrified to see my family members if they haven't consumed this pharmaceutical product.
00:07:44.560 You know, like, and it started with some person's crazy vision of like, hey, I think the world can be different in this way, you know?
00:07:52.460 And it really is, you know, this is kind of getting deeper into the weeds.
00:07:57.780 It's kind of like into like a philosophical, spiritual part of the conversation.
00:08:01.000 But, you know, sometimes you kind of need to turn your intellect off and just focus on the romanticizing of what you want.
00:08:08.280 Like, you need to kind of turn off the pragmatism and be like, this is what I want in my heart.
00:08:14.000 And I'm going to fight for it.
00:08:15.200 And I don't care what the odds are.
00:08:17.000 I'm going to go for it because this is what I believe.
00:08:20.480 You know, like, that's the type of energy that more people need.
00:08:23.700 Yeah, we need people with conviction and people who are uncompromising.
00:08:27.900 And this is like in a nutshell, that's why I didn't like this conservative party, why I don't like Polly F.
00:08:32.580 You know, not only does he not have the conviction, not only is he not uncompromising, but he's actually encouraging people to kind of be cowards like him, encouraging people to be to compromise.
00:08:43.660 Hey, guys, this is the strategy.
00:08:45.180 Let's be submissive to Rosemary Barton's sensibilities. 1.00
00:08:48.160 And that's how we're going to save the country.
00:08:50.460 This is our leader.
00:08:51.540 This is this is how he's been leading.
00:08:53.560 So do you think, like, Greg, to be honest with you, do you think that if he went farther right, then he would have won?
00:09:04.840 Well, we're not going to know.
00:09:06.660 We're not going to find out, unfortunately.
00:09:08.780 That's what sucks.
00:09:10.160 That's the essence of the question there, right?
00:09:12.800 It's like, well, let's put it this way.
00:09:15.840 He pandered to Sikhs and wore turbans and he lost in all of those ridings. 0.99
00:09:20.520 So it didn't work there.
00:09:22.300 You know, like it's sometimes I feel like that's not the right question to ask, though.
00:09:28.860 I feel like that's not the right.
00:09:30.440 Yeah, but this is kind of a whole other tie.
00:09:32.980 I try, but it is kind of important, which is the media.
00:09:35.680 So let's picture in your head the Brantford boomer.
00:09:39.680 OK, picture the guy who the liberal supporter who's like giving you the finger.
00:09:43.620 He's like, fuck you.
00:09:45.620 This guy probably listens to the CBC.
00:09:47.640 He probably loves his liberal party.
00:09:49.040 He probably hates the conservatives.
00:09:50.200 Right.
00:09:50.640 And this is because once again of like the liberal media brainwashing or the liberal media programming.
00:09:57.960 This is something that Pierre Polyev does not challenge.
00:10:01.180 What does the CBC programming say?
00:10:02.740 The CBC programming defines the conversation.
00:10:05.760 It defines the conversation around the election, which we made it all about.
00:10:09.100 Trump defines the conversation around covid or the convoy, which is all these people are like disgusting hicks.
00:10:14.580 We want nothing to do with them.
00:10:15.480 And they also define the conversation about what a conservative is.
00:10:19.780 CBC defines the conversation around what a conservative is.
00:10:22.840 And you know what they make that about?
00:10:24.420 There are people who lack empathy.
00:10:26.700 They're gross, disgusting people.
00:10:28.180 They don't say that explicitly, but that's sort of the implication.
00:10:31.000 A lot of the time on the CBC programming.
00:10:33.800 So so how are you expecting this liberal boomer giving you the finger?
00:10:38.820 How can we actually correct him?
00:10:40.920 How can we correct these people?
00:10:42.280 It's never going to happen by being submissive and saying, oh, I guess you're right.
00:10:46.540 I guess maybe I am.
00:10:47.520 I do lack empathy.
00:10:48.980 Maybe Rosemary Barton is right.
00:10:50.760 No, there needs to be some sort of bull show up like, you know, like Trump to be like, no, you're wrong.
00:10:57.000 Actually, you're wrong.
00:10:58.080 Conservatives are not people that lack empathy.
00:10:59.840 I mean, I should clarify because I am someone who's very bombastic and I'm like, you need to say more.
00:11:04.720 You need to be more aggressive.
00:11:05.580 There is a right way to do it and a wrong way to do it.
00:11:08.440 You know, like busting out there and then like, you know, you know, being being obnoxious and like using too many swear words.
00:11:15.480 Like there's a there's a right way to do it.
00:11:17.740 Fuck that.
00:11:18.360 I just want the full fucking cock. 0.86
00:11:21.080 Just all lay cock right out. 1.00
00:11:23.820 Okay.
00:11:24.040 So charming.
00:11:24.840 So charming.
00:11:26.500 And, you know, in the trucker convoy, you have a situation where you can actually see visibly huge outpouring of support from like large numbers of people.
00:11:38.460 And you can imagine sort of having some confidence to be a part of that and to speak out.
00:11:44.040 Or if there's a leader who looks like they're going to be in power, who's going to maybe support that you can trust is going to support your position, then you're you're you're more likely to speak out.
00:11:57.280 Right.
00:11:57.720 Yes, you're emboldened and you're empowered.
00:12:00.040 This is a really exactly point.
00:12:01.640 Continue.
00:12:02.080 Yeah, because otherwise, if you feel like the leaders just got this weak sort of wishy washy position on it and you you go out of your way to speak out, you're going to be afraid of being up the creek without a paddle when when when it doesn't come to pass and then you get screwed.
00:12:19.840 Right.
00:12:20.640 Nobody's going to defend you for that for standing up for that position.
00:12:24.280 And so that's that's the fear problem.
00:12:27.500 The problem is we have no one that we can trust that that's going to stand up that has a spine.
00:12:33.360 We have somebody that's pandering.
00:12:35.200 And even if Polly have did go like full on, like you were talking about, it's too late.
00:12:41.640 Nobody believes him.
00:12:43.020 Nobody trusts any of his behavior anymore because he's been so weak on everything.
00:12:48.920 Like there's no substance behind it.
00:12:51.360 Right.
00:12:51.620 If there's one lesson we learn from this election, I hope it's that that, you know, being a man, being a pandering pussy does not work. 0.89
00:12:59.780 We saw it with sheer.
00:13:01.480 We saw it with O'Toole and we saw it with Paul.
00:13:04.520 The app.
00:13:04.880 Sure.
00:13:05.000 Polly was a little bit better, but he had so much to work with between the trucker convoy.
00:13:09.920 You know, the average Canadian complaining about mass immigration, you know, like there's so many things slam dunks that Polly have could have done. 0.99
00:13:17.040 But instead, he just stuck with the pandering being a pussy. 1.00
00:13:19.320 And I just really hope that conservatives across the country can learn this lesson with this election.
00:13:24.420 There's so many issues like I think freedom is pretty left.
00:13:28.000 It's pretty universal.
00:13:29.200 I don't think it's really a left right thing.
00:13:31.080 You know, I think, you know, maybe not trans in kids.
00:13:34.960 Because there might be a contingent of NPC lunatics who think that that's that's important.
00:13:41.980 But I think I'm pretty sure the majority of Canadians would agree that, like, that's not a healthy practice.
00:13:47.720 Right.
00:13:49.240 But nobody's speaking out because we don't have any vocal support.
00:13:53.340 And we have a we have a cap.
00:13:55.460 We're captivated by our media that the media tells us what everybody thinks, supposedly.
00:14:02.620 Right.
00:14:02.960 So there's this feeling like you're the only one.
00:14:06.700 Right.
00:14:07.160 You've got no support.
00:14:08.280 The media is like, this is what everybody thinks.
00:14:10.800 This is the this is the correct answer.
00:14:13.000 They did a great time.
00:14:14.660 They did a great job of that during COVID.
00:14:16.280 Just to add to your point.
00:14:17.280 Yeah.
00:14:17.680 Just to remind people, this is this is a huge thing that, like, animates me in politics in general, which is free speech.
00:14:24.100 I should be able to talk shit.
00:14:25.700 I should be able to joke around.
00:14:27.100 And like, it's so nostalgic for me because, yeah, growing up, I remember having the wildest conversations with my friends.
00:14:32.440 And I always loved that.
00:14:34.260 And I saw that kind of creeping up in our culture.
00:14:36.520 Like, you know, by the end of university, when I was going into the workforce, I'm like, man, people are really like lame these days.
00:14:41.160 Like they're not they're not around to like have fun.
00:14:43.440 But I was going to say just to kind of emphasize your point of not even just the pussiness of Paliyev or his cowardice.
00:14:50.900 It's interesting what he will bravely say and what he won't bravely say.
00:14:55.740 OK, he is bravely said so many times.
00:14:58.400 I will get direct flights to Amherst, India.
00:15:02.060 Like, there's actually so many clips of this.
00:15:04.700 I was doing the research to make a video about it.
00:15:06.400 And I'm like, I can't believe how many clips there are of this.
00:15:09.400 It's kind of alarming, you know.
00:15:11.780 But not only that, and keep in mind, this is in the context of, oh, he can't talk about transgenderism in schools.
00:15:18.660 Oh, he can't be too aggressive on mass immigration.
00:15:21.180 Oh, he can't say anything about the trigger convoy.
00:15:22.960 But he can go to a podium and say it would be a gift to the world if Israel bombed Iran. 0.81
00:15:30.540 By the way, we're going to do everything we can to send more munitions to Ukraine. 0.55
00:15:35.600 So when it comes to encouraging foreign wars, he can speak as freely and as aggressively as he likes.
00:15:41.860 But when it comes to protecting his own borders and protecting the own the demographic makeup of the country or slowing down immigration, which affects the housing crisis, which he loves to talk about.
00:15:52.500 It affects the health care crisis and the drug crisis and everything that he loves to talk about the crime.
00:15:57.740 But he's not going to talk about the immigration in that way.
00:15:59.940 Right.
00:16:00.320 So it's very interesting how he suddenly has the bravery on certain topics.
00:16:04.440 I don't know, maybe because he's influenced by foreign groups who want him to do that.
00:16:09.400 Just a thought.
00:16:10.220 But that's I'll land it there.
00:16:12.460 You know, while you were talking about the guy in the bar, and that's a great analogy.
00:16:16.160 It's like, I think when there's that hot shot in the bar, he's getting all the girls because he's he's being a he's being a jerk.
00:16:25.580 You know, he's being who he wants to be like he just like the guy that is the most offensive that just doesn't care.
00:16:33.600 That doesn't like suddenly they're like, oh, my gosh, why?
00:16:37.740 Why is he not sensible to how offended I am?
00:16:41.140 Like, you know, and I think there's a lot of truth that in politics and probably have wanted to be Mr. Nice Guy.
00:16:51.000 Sorry, Mr. Nice Guy doesn't get the girl. 0.76
00:16:53.580 So nice guy finishes last.
00:16:55.540 No, absolutely.
00:16:56.900 I'd love to jump on that point, which is I mean, I made a tweet earlier tonight, which was, wow, surprisingly hollow catchphrases and chicken shit conservatism didn't capture the hearts and minds of the country.
00:17:10.120 And back to my point about, you know, the focus groups and being overly analytical and intellectual with how you look at politics, you lose the psychological aspect of it, because at the end of the day, human beings follow human beings.
00:17:24.380 They don't follow focus groups.
00:17:25.740 They don't follow hollow catchphrases.
00:17:27.800 They want to resonate with the human being.
00:17:30.860 And I mean, there's a lot to say on this, but Polyev is lame.
00:17:35.200 And so many conservatives do not realize this.
00:17:38.020 Like they don't realize how much he lacks in charisma.
00:17:41.800 And that doesn't mean it was like, you know, done from the start.
00:17:44.700 If you don't have the best charisma, like you need to make up for it with like bolder talking points, bolder, more aggressive, more conservative talking points like you need to make it work.
00:17:53.260 And Polyev just simply did not have that.
00:17:55.920 And it's something that I think a lot of right wing people don't realize.
00:18:00.180 Like right wing people are kind of in this echo chamber and they're like, wow, Polyev talked about taxes.
00:18:04.680 He talked about all this complicated money stuff.
00:18:07.200 It's like, okay, what if he just came out and said, hey, we got to keep Canada, you know, do something more simple, like not going deep into these details.
00:18:14.840 But, you know, I think a lot of people in the right wing, they don't realize the echo chamber that they're in and they kind of participated in this like delusional practice of thinking that Polyev was cool or something or resonating with more people.
00:18:30.840 And it's like, no, like he comes across as kind of fake and weaselly.
00:18:33.840 And that's, and that's a problem.
00:18:36.140 The, I didn't like the apple clip.
00:18:38.300 I mean, the apple clip is okay when he's eating the apple, but like, that's a good example of what resonated with human beings.
00:18:46.380 Does the apple clip have anything to do with policy?
00:18:50.020 Nothing to do with policy.
00:18:51.360 It was, it was just pure charisma.
00:18:53.600 And that's what people liked.
00:18:54.820 Hey, I like this guy, you know?
00:18:56.520 And it comes from that authenticity, that rawness and, and it's like, I don't want to say it, but it's totally true.
00:19:05.600 Mark Carney has way more charisma.
00:19:08.140 He's way more charming and confident.
00:19:10.100 You know, half the time I would see Polyev on the mic.
00:19:12.940 I'm like, man, this guy looks stressed.
00:19:15.220 This guy's really trying to memorize his lines, you know, like, and that comes across to people.
00:19:20.560 People pick up on that.
00:19:22.100 People who know nothing about politics pick up on that.
00:19:25.280 And it really is like this, this psychological thing.
00:19:28.300 And I guess it's all to say that similar to my point earlier, like anything really is possible.
00:19:33.480 If you have a charismatic person on the microphone, they can make Rosemary Barton, the CBC, the entire liberal party look like a joke in two minutes.
00:19:42.580 Maybe he'll say something that's two seconds rather, you know, maybe it's something that's controversial, whatever.
00:19:48.020 I'm, you know, I'm referring again to like another, like sort of Trump scenario where he shows up and like says something outrageous.
00:19:53.640 People talk about it, but it gets people talking and it wins hearts and minds because it's like real human being shit.
00:20:00.300 It's a real human being who is being charismatic.
00:20:04.200 And that's what, that's what I'm hoping to see more of in the Canadian right wing is like, just like raw passion.
00:20:10.560 Real people saying, this is how I feel.
00:20:13.160 Oh, you can't say that.
00:20:14.320 Well, they did say that.
00:20:15.680 They did say that.
00:20:16.580 And a lot of people actually agreed with this person.
00:20:18.620 So now what are we going to do now?
00:20:20.300 And like, to me, like that is the only path forward.
00:20:23.000 And I know that's kind of like sort of abstract, but, uh, you know, conviction, people speaking their mind, people being brave and, you know, not trying to constantly cater to the sensibilities of Rosemary Barton.
00:20:35.980 Like, can we please be done with this delusion that right wing conservatives have?
00:20:40.220 If we are not actually going out there and saying things that are upsetting the liberal status quo, then we're not doing anything.
00:20:47.100 We're not going to be accomplishing anything anytime soon.
00:20:50.600 And once again, it's not to say like, you know, be a loud mouth jackass who's like, you know, just making fun of people and like doesn't have any decorum whatsoever.
00:20:59.000 I think to be, you know, there is, there is a thing about presenting yourself well and being professional or being, you know, somewhat charming.
00:21:05.760 Um, but, uh, but yeah, it's like, you know, we, we gotta be, we gotta be brave and really speaking our mind here.
00:21:14.100 You know, interestingly enough, uh, Carney, he was once asked something about the, uh, what was it?
00:21:21.560 The Cayman Islands or something.
00:21:22.940 Um, some inner, uh, journalist was trying to grill him and I couldn't believe his answer was, it was just like, yeah, that's just how things are done.
00:21:34.180 And so it's just, it was hilarious because we're so used to Trudeau and fumbling and being a clown and just making an absolute fool of himself.
00:21:43.120 Then it's just like, this guy is just a joke.
00:21:45.180 And here we have Carney is like, can take something that's completely immoral and whatever.
00:21:51.700 And, and, and is something wrong going on with the finance?
00:21:54.540 Just like, yeah, well we do that.
00:21:56.800 And I mean, that just goes to show like he, he really charmed, he charmed like the, the, the liberals devoting for him like that.
00:22:05.720 But it's like, yeah, we're, we're, we're slick.
00:22:07.600 We're sleazy.
00:22:09.560 It's, it's really, really dangerous.
00:22:11.620 It's, it's really, really dangerous.
00:22:13.280 And I totally agree with you, slimy for recognizing that like he stumbles, like we're in big trouble.
00:22:19.440 You know, I didn't trust me.
00:22:20.900 I did not, I know I'm a PPC guy and I'm always pressuring the Polyev to push further, but it's because I want him to be better to actually beat Carney. 0.89
00:22:27.780 I don't like the fact that Carney's in Carney is very, very dangerous, you know, because Trudeau came across like an idiot, uh, who was only good looking.
00:22:38.960 So he could charm like women and stupid gay men maybe, but it's like with, with Carney, you have somebody who is really, he stumbles.
00:22:48.380 He says a lot too, but he's much more graceful.
00:22:52.840 He's much more kind of confident with it.
00:22:55.720 And it comes across really, really well.
00:22:58.640 Like, like, like this Carney guy is very, very scary for this reason.
00:23:01.660 He does.
00:23:02.260 He is able to deflect.
00:23:03.920 He is able to, like you just said, uh, casually dismiss like horrible accusations.
00:23:12.120 Um, and it's not, it doesn't matter how much of a lie it is.
00:23:16.000 It doesn't matter how outrageous it is.
00:23:17.560 It comes across well on camera to people.
00:23:20.380 And that's why, that's why it's dangerous.
00:23:22.340 Cause like it's easy.
00:23:23.180 He's able to like, you know, these are not the droids you're looking for.
00:23:26.600 You know what I mean?
00:23:27.600 He's got like the, he's got the Jedi mind trick, uh, aura and confidence, which is not good for us.
00:23:34.060 Cause he's not on our team.
00:23:35.260 And, uh, he does really feel like a textbook globalist out of a, um, you know, out of a movie.
00:23:41.920 So, and, and that's why people like us, we need to do, we need to have an iron sharpens iron mentality.
00:23:48.780 You know, it's fine if we disagree on things, that's actually a good thing.
00:23:52.220 What we need to do is have productive debates to productive conversations about who has the better idea or who has the better approach.
00:24:00.440 And I think once again, like the, the common theme that I talk about is encouraging each other to be more courageous and more outspoken and, and, you know, challenging the status quo.
00:24:11.060 And it's not going to happen overnight, but, uh, you know, it's going to take a lot of hard work, but again, if there's anything we can learn from this election is that the cowardice doesn't work.
00:24:22.300 Okay.
00:24:23.200 The cowardice does not work.
00:24:24.940 Sure.
00:24:25.120 There needs to be times where you need to like, you know, dial in and calibrate your message to be correct, especially when I'm talking about more sensitive issues, but like this cowardice to the liberal media and Rosemary Barton.
00:24:38.540 It's like, guys, we got to throw that in the trash.
00:24:41.060 We got to realize that, you know, the, the progress, the path forward is challenging Rosemary Barton and challenging the mainstream media.
00:24:49.660 If we're not upsetting them, then we're not actually gaining any ground whatsoever.