Greg Wycliffe - October 14, 2025


I just can't trust people anymore

Topics
cancel culture tactics
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Greg Wycliffe
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Jeremy McKenzie Randy Hillier Lethbridge Goliath Coutts David
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16 minutes

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2,187

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132

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11

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My last full day out west and I m headed south to Lethbridge, Alberta for a few interviews. I ve been doing some vlogs from the scene of the Coutts Convoy, but it s been slow going, so I figured I d talk about it while I was in Lethbridge.

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00:00:00.000 Good morning. It's the last full day in Alberta. Last full day out west. Thank God it's Friday.
00:00:12.540 I am driving south to Lethbridge right now. I'm going to be meeting up with a couple people for
00:00:19.840 a couple interviews. And I'm going to be stopping by the iconic Lethbridge Justice Center, Lethbridge
00:00:29.320 Courthouse. I feel like I've seen it so many times on social media, videos of people doing reports
00:00:38.660 outside the Lethbridge Courthouse. I mean, it really is a, I don't know, it's pretty, if you follow
00:00:49.960 the aftermath of the convoy, it's like, I feel like it's a pretty iconic location at this point.
00:00:59.320 You know, two of the Coutts guys are still in jail, for those who care, for those who's paying
00:01:04.440 attention. I've been trying to get out as many vlogs as I can while traveling and working, but
00:01:13.380 obviously it's kind of been behind. I think I've only posted like four or five, and this is my
00:01:20.800 second last day. So, yeah, you know, I kind of wanted to just document it for myself and also
00:01:29.620 show people like they're, you know, coming on the trip with me. Yeah, just something I can look back
00:01:38.240 on. Because I do think it's, uh, this trip means a lot to me. This project means a lot to me. This
00:01:47.560 country means a lot to me, right? But, um, you know, I saw a comment that was saying like, well,
00:01:56.620 why can't, why does it have to be a secret? Why can't you just tell us who you're interviewing?
00:02:03.300 That's a good question. And, uh, in the interview I did last night, somebody said, uh,
00:02:09.680 I just can't trust people anymore based on it, everything they'd been, been through. And, um,
00:02:19.220 yeah, I struggle with that too. I struggle with that too. There, you know, for, for those, uh,
00:02:30.440 who don't know, I got really spooked after the convoy, not because I got arrested. Um,
00:02:38.240 I can't imagine how much more spooked I would be if I had faced more consequences for just 0.98
00:02:44.680 interviewing people there or telling people to come to the convoy on fucking YouTube or whatever. 0.94
00:02:49.180 But, um, I was spooked because when Randy Hillier got arrested, I was on his, uh, bail conditions for 0.96
00:03:00.180 like people he's not allowed to talk to. And that spooked me because it's like, well, you know,
00:03:07.000 sometimes right-wingers make jokes about being on lists, being on a government list,
00:03:12.720 being on a watch list. And that's really funny until you're actually like on a actual list,
00:03:19.540 you know, uh, for example, Jeremy McKenzie has made that joke for years and through a freedom
00:03:28.220 of information request, he found out that he was on a person of interest list after talking
00:03:33.580 about the Nova Scotia shooting. Right. Right. So it's unfortunate because I feel like anybody who has
00:03:45.040 been, uh, through the ringer, I'm not saying I have been, uh, I was a much, much less, uh, example,
00:03:52.160 but, uh, yeah, you kind of get a little bit paranoid, you know, it's a really shitty feeling
00:04:01.840 to be like, wow, government institutions are like, have it out for me. You know, that's,
00:04:11.380 and you know, part of why the, Oh, I don't like trust anyone. It's like, you don't know
00:04:17.200 people's intentions. You can't know what people's intentions are. You don't know who's talking to
00:04:22.960 who and who's saying what. And you know, something I bring up in these interviews a little bit
00:04:28.000 is gossip. What does it like to be lied about? Because this is part of the disintegration,
00:04:35.120 I would say of patriotism in Canada with all these whisper campaigns happen. People start to hate and
00:04:41.140 distrust each other, you know, subterfuge subversion, who knows? I'm not, I'm not going to
00:04:47.300 point fingers at specific people or anything, but I don't know. People talk. There's people I've seen
00:04:54.920 online and I see what they say. I see what they care about. Allegedly. I see their behavior. I see
00:05:00.920 how sometimes they flip-flop or switch around. Why? I don't know. Why can't they just be consistent?
00:05:11.960 I'm not sure. But, uh, because of that, that's why I'm keeping these people secret. And then it wraps,
00:05:21.420 and of course, by the way, um, if it wasn't clear yet, some of the people that we focus on in this
00:05:27.920 documentary are, uh, you know, like an organization rather that we focus on in this documentary
00:05:34.040 is, uh, oh, should I stop here? Uh, nah. I kind of want to, nah, nah.
00:05:51.420 Now I'm looking back. Regrets. No. I would like to get some, a little bit of a snack and a coffee
00:05:58.120 though. Anyway. What the, what was I saying? Not being able to trust people. Oh, uh, yeah.
00:06:07.560 There's an organization called the Canadian Anti-Hate Network and they, uh, smear, they,
00:06:14.600 they said they're proudly anti-fascist and they focus on the far right. Uh, they come up in this
00:06:20.280 documentary and they are a very bad faith organization who deploy all of the different,
00:06:28.940 uh, what's the word? Cancel culture tactics, anything like muddying the waters, which would
00:06:37.280 mean taking something you say and then associating it with criminal behavior as if what you said is
00:06:43.280 criminal when it's not. That's one muddying the waters. Another one is guilt by association.
00:06:49.340 Oh, you talked to this person. Everything that this person has said is now on you somehow makes
00:06:56.440 absolutely no sense. Um, and yeah, like tactics like this, unfortunately are used and deployed
00:07:05.360 in a very malicious, bad faith way. They claim to be hate experts. They sort of try to act like
00:07:12.260 journalists, but it's, uh, unfortunately people are gullible and people buy into this and people
00:07:21.980 get afraid. They get, they get fearful. Oh, I don't want to be associated with this. I don't
00:07:26.840 want to be associated with that. They said this, they said this one time. Now, now everything that
00:07:31.500 they said, I have to be responsible for part of making this documentary is to empower people to be 0.88
00:07:37.560 like, stop giving a fuck about organizations like the Canadian anti-hate network and this guilt by 0.78
00:07:43.800 association stuff. So once this documentary is out and good to go, I will happily, you will happily see 0.92
00:07:53.420 everyone who's been involved. Um, but right now it's, it, you know, I, I, fair enough. I hate on the
00:08:04.140 conservative party of Canada for being silent and quote unquote, being strategic with what they talk
00:08:11.340 about, but that's because they, as a politician, as a leader, you need to stick your neck out.
00:08:21.740 You need to be the one who's going to get the mud slung at you if you're a real leader. Okay. And it
00:08:28.380 sucks that the conservative party is not doing that for me making this documentary. It's strategic 0.86
00:08:34.460 because I'm not the leader of the conservative party of Canada. I'm just some journalist, political
00:08:41.820 commentator, filmmaker, comedian, sometimes musician, sometimes guy. And, uh, it's very, it's a lot easier
00:08:51.340 to crush me like a bug or to mischaracterize me or smear me or whatever. And, uh, so I don't want
00:08:58.140 to expose myself or the people I'm talking with to that vulnerability. It's, there's no benefit in it.
00:09:05.820 That being said, once there's a trailer ready and once we're like, well on the way of releasing it
00:09:11.580 and hyping it up and getting, getting like the messaging around it, that's when, that's when,
00:09:17.420 you know, I'm more ready to be a target. That's more, that's when I'm more ready to, uh, you know,
00:09:22.700 expose myself to whatever, all the guilt by association stuff, because at that point, the
00:09:28.860 hype, the hype of the trailer, the hype, uh, of the film coming out will like any sort of like
00:09:37.820 shitty talk, any sort of bad faith, uh, trying to smear us at that point, I think we'll actually,
00:09:43.820 actually just help, help the documentary. Um, should I be sharing all of this? Should I be
00:09:50.860 sharing all of my notes and all my likes, like all my secret plans? Maybe this isn't wise to post.
00:09:59.660 See then they, and there's the, there's the paranoia again. There's the paranoia. There's the
00:10:04.460 like not knowing, uh, yeah, because again, it's like, for example, I'm not going to say who I interviewed,
00:10:17.340 but after our interview, they, yesterday, they went home and they said they had a bunch of like
00:10:23.820 police cars, like, like driving around their place.
00:10:27.500 That never happens. And it's like, it's one of those things where like, you don't, you don't know,
00:10:35.020 like maybe we are being paranoid. Maybe it's a coincidence, you know, on the other hand,
00:10:41.580 like having our phones bugged, like, is that really that far fetched? You know what I mean?
00:10:46.860 Especially with, especially with some of the individuals and how badly they've been with.
00:10:51.820 Uh, yeah, you know, in three kilometers, use the right lane to take the scenic drive exit towards city center.
00:11:04.860 It's, um, you got to be careful, unfortunately. I don't want to have to be careful.
00:11:13.340 But you know, I've been making a joke to some of the people I interview, which is like,
00:11:17.900 you know, I don't really know how to shoot a gun, but I'm learning how to shoot a camera, you know?
00:11:26.380 And I really think that these are our weapons. These are our weapons in this fifth generational warfare.
00:11:38.780 Telling the story, winning the hearts and minds, helping deprogram brainwashed people to see what's going on.
00:11:48.860 Uh, it's definitely a David versus Goliath story, but you know, we have to try and that's,
00:11:55.340 and this is what I'm doing. That's what I'm doing. I'm giving, I'm giving it a good old college effort.
00:12:04.060 And you know what, like it's, I'm happy to be learning a lot in the process and
00:12:08.940 at the very least, I think I'm documenting something important, you know, because if things do continue to get worse 0.68
00:12:19.580 and this bullshit speech law passes,
00:12:22.220 I can at least say, Hey, at least I tried, at least I made a documentary trying to warn people about what the 0.99
00:12:28.860 fuck is happening in Canada. 0.96
00:12:30.140 I'm going to sleep easy after that, knowing that I'm, you know, that I tried. 1.00
00:12:37.580 I'm going to sleep easy after that, knowing that I'm going to sleep easy after that, knowing that I'm not going to sleep.
00:12:42.540 But anyway, um, final day in Alberta, it's very bittersweet.
00:12:51.740 Um, part of me is happy. He's excited to go home. Another part of me had a really great time out here.
00:13:01.420 Really, really great time out here. Um, a lot of warmth, a lot of, you know, people that get it.
00:13:11.900 It's really great people talking to people that get it, people that recognize, um,
00:13:17.740 the pitiful state of this country, you know, and they don't mince words about it.
00:13:35.260 But yeah, I'm going to keep hitting the road here, grab a bite to eat.
00:13:41.580 I got, I've gotten so good at clearing out my cameras on like my, my memory cards,
00:13:46.700 although I'm running out of, I've, I think I've run out of space on my, uh, my cloud drive.
00:13:55.340 Two terabytes is filled up.
00:13:58.140 So we had just enough space, uh, for all the content we're getting out here,
00:14:04.460 all the interviews we're getting out here, knock on wood, it's not over yet, but I think,
00:14:08.700 yeah, we'll have enough space. Um, which has been a huge success, huge success.
00:14:16.060 I'm at eight interviews right now. That's not including, uh, members of Archie Pawlowski's family
00:14:22.700 and a few other kind of adjacent cutaway interviews, but like, you know, eight main camera,
00:14:30.140 double, double angle or triple angle. If you include the camera on me, uh, interviews and I've run out of
00:14:37.900 release forms. So for a documentary like this, I need to get your, uh, your signature and some of
00:14:47.020 your information to get like, you know, the rights to distribute, uh, your likeness
00:14:54.460 in a documentary film that's going to be distributed internationally. Um, but I ran out of release
00:15:01.420 forms, model release forms. So I had to photocopy more. Once again, the people who are hosting me
00:15:06.940 are the absolute best people, but, uh, that's been, it's been good. It's a good problem to have,
00:15:14.220 um, really filled in all the days. I remember, it's funny looking back
00:15:19.900 on my first day here where I'm like, wow, two interviews in one day. This is amazing.
00:15:25.100 This might be the best day of the trip. I've had like one, two, uh, three,
00:15:31.900 uh, three other days like that. And there'll be a fourth day today like that. So, you know,
00:15:40.220 two interviews in a day, ain't no thing, ain't no thing. Piece of cake. I'm definitely learning a lot
00:15:46.860 about shooting as well, which is great. But, uh, yeah, anyway, I'll leave it at that.
00:15:54.220 Uh, maybe there'll be an update later on, probably. But, uh, for now, we'll talk to you.
00:16:01.340 We'll talk to you later. Talk to you soon.