00:00:00.000What do you think is missing the most in terms of, like, making re-migration more powerful and viable to actually be, like, actionable in politics?
00:00:08.320Yeah, well, obviously, as it's going to go into mass politics, it's going to have to be connected to other issues.
00:00:14.680Obviously, immigration is a top concern for voters across Europe consistently.
00:00:19.560But also, you know, things like the economy, things like housing.
00:00:22.240and as some of the speakers alluded to on almost all of those major issues I mean you can make an
00:00:29.580argument that mass immigration is making those things worse whether it's in Ireland there's a0.89
00:00:33.580huge housing crisis at the same time we're increasing our population by about 3% a year
00:00:38.420through immigration regardless of what plans political parties and parties on the left come
00:00:43.600up with for public housing and bills you literally cannot meet the demand being created by immigration
00:00:48.600so anything whether it's you know the funding of the welfare state housing um any of the top
00:00:55.240concerns people have there is a way to make a policy argument that connects all of those things
00:00:58.680to immigration and that's why you can see uh countries like denmark that are a bit less
00:01:03.380ideological on this stuff which is you know their governments have just come out with reports and
00:01:07.260it's like oh yeah diversity is actually making everything worse and they're actually doing
00:01:10.560repatriation which is kind of incredible yeah how much of an obstacle do you think these kind of0.95
00:01:17.020like fake patriots are and what do you think the approach should be for people who are true
00:01:23.340nationalists? Yeah, they're obviously a huge obstacle. I mean, you look at like Maloney in
00:01:27.820Italy, he was really elected on the promise of tax on immigration and it's just completely
00:01:32.420betrayed that promise. You know, what's to be done? Well, obviously you need to change the
00:01:37.160personnel. We need to make the meta-political change that makes this, you know, the central
00:01:42.340issue that it's not just as often is for conservative parties one issue among
00:01:46.540many you know we'll deal with immigration and then it's a little bit
00:01:49.240unpopular okay we'll just deal with you know illegal immigration we'll do
00:01:52.360something tokenistic you obviously need ideologically to make this the you know
00:01:56.800pillar the front and centerpiece of right-wing movements and then obviously
00:02:00.940that will translate down to politics but like in the short term you know political
00:02:05.620parties betraying their promises that's the nature of politics all we can really
00:02:09.400do is just attack them from the right and just you know continually expose them as much as possible
00:02:13.160because obviously a lot of um you know less informed right-wing people they just see attacks
00:02:19.480from the mainstream media on these people assume they're on their side so that's why you know
00:02:23.080oftentimes we all we almost have to attack the fake right more than the left right because
00:02:27.400our side know the left is a problem sometimes they don't recognize the problem on our own side