Greg Wycliffe - Immigration, Globalism & The Fear of Speaking Up - LIVE with @InLayTerms

00:00:00.000 awesome. Hello, everyone, and welcome to this episode of Inlay Terms. I'm your host,

00:00:10.540 Payman Ascari. And today with us, we have none other than Mr. Greg Wycliffe. How are you doing,

00:00:15.360 Greg? I'm doing well, man. Thanks for having me on the show.

00:00:20.080 No, thank you very much for agreeing to come on. I know you're busy. We've been doing this for,

00:00:23.780 where we try to set this up for like over a month now so it happens you know it happens

00:00:29.440 lots lots lots whizzing by the timeline lots to do and uh you also got to make a living and pay

00:00:35.080 the bills you know how it is so yeah it's easy to spend money it's hard to make money absolutely

00:00:41.880 absolutely so how are things we're going to talk about globalism we're going to talk about

00:00:47.460 immigration the ppc of course and uh we actually met um we actually met at the ppc conference

00:00:57.080 in the summer yeah yeah we met in ottawa uh it was pretty cool i i don't really get out much so

00:01:04.560 anybody who has any any following it feels like i'm meeting a celebrity so very important yeah

00:01:10.340 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's, uh, I'm always flattered when people are like, I watch all your videos and

00:01:15.160 yeah, well, I appreciate that, but, uh, there's a lot of, a lot of work to be done. And, um,

00:01:23.420 yeah, I'm happy to kind of send, send, send the right message out there and try to inspire people

00:01:28.180 to speak up. That's kind of always been my thing since the beginning of, uh, you know, way back in

00:01:34.240 2019 when i joined the ppc i noticed no one really cares no one really cares about canadian politics

00:01:41.820 uh and i always thought of it was this like very hard challenge to try and get get people to give

00:01:47.640 a crap get canadians to give a crap because because uh it's always dominated by the states

00:01:52.980 you know like the average canadian can list off the mueller scandal all these things about trump

00:01:59.740 scandals all these things about going on in the states but uh if you tell them about like the

00:02:05.260 SNC-Lavalin scandal at the time they'd be like ah whatever you know CBC kind of I guess that's

00:02:09.920 kind of interesting but and I think especially now we're seeing um like since we're kind of being

00:02:17.000 enveloped by this by the states and an aggressive we're being preyed upon by an aggressive strong

00:02:23.660 man trump uh i think now we're noticing that uh you know we're a country that has not been

00:02:30.720 prioritizing itself much at all um but uh yeah yeah it's amazing how overnight everybody became

00:02:40.920 patriots in canada yeah yeah the same people who are calling us colonizing racist post-national

00:02:48.560 uh bad country what do we have to be proud of and then all of a sudden when trump shows up it's um

00:02:55.540 yeah it's uh a different story it seems so i'm following this 51st thing i don't have a position

00:03:05.080 on it i actually think we should stay canada but but it's like i said to people i'm like wait a

00:03:09.840 minute you're the one that said you didn't give a crap about canada what do you care if canada

00:03:13.260 joins the u.s it's post-national state yeah for real for real absolutely it's uh

00:03:19.740 why uh it's obviously very hypocritical it's very transparent and um yeah i would hope that

00:03:29.060 more people you know realize that but here we are greg let me ask you a question about uh carney and

00:03:37.160 and polyev uh what do you think is going to happen let's go with carney like what do you

00:03:41.560 think's gonna happen with him in the leadership race uh i think he is the chosen one um they even

00:03:50.220 name dropped him earlier um and i think that um like they they dropped like they dropped his name

00:03:59.520 like a year ago or something like a year and a half ago they kind of told you about this idea

00:04:04.020 of teasing that oh yeah maybe maybe it'll be carny sort of thing and um that kind of got

00:04:09.400 hand waved away quickly but uh yeah i i think that he's he's probably going to be the guy that

00:04:17.620 they try to prop up and make the leader and i think you can kind of look at it one of two ways

00:04:22.760 you know on one hand um the trudeau brand is so strong and the trudeau brand is all about

00:04:31.080 um you know woke progressive politics uh and i heard someone say well they're definitely going

00:04:37.080 to make it a woman leader because that leans into the kind of existing Trudeau ethos Trudeau

00:04:42.240 politics and it's kind of just going to pass the torch to a woman to make it like well don't you

00:04:45.980 want a women woman uh prime minister uh and like kind of leaning into the existing uh Justin

00:04:52.560 Trudeau politics however um on the other hand people are noticing how uh weak the country has

00:04:59.200 become how uh in dire straits the country is with uh you know just cost of living and of course

00:05:05.540 being preyed upon now by the united states so they might be pivoting to actually maybe we need

00:05:11.080 our own strong man maybe we need our own uh guy who cares about the economy and that's obviously

00:05:18.680 mark carney so so to me it's like they're going to go to one extreme or the other they're either

00:05:23.380 going to lean back into trudeau politics with a woman leader or they're going to lean into uh you

00:05:28.560 know what let's kind of pivot and let's try to make poly ever relevant and say all the same

00:05:34.420 things about caring about the economy except we also care about black people more because we're

00:05:40.020 liberals and remember the conservatives are still racist so we'll save the economy and you can you

00:05:44.980 know pat yourself on the back for for being virtuous uh that's so i think they'll they

00:05:50.620 probably will go with carny i think that because people are hurting so much they are starting to

00:05:55.600 care about uh my my economy so yeah that's that's my prediction but um yeah i don't know if that

00:06:06.940 answers your question but no it does i it's uh i was not expecting them to be able to get away

00:06:14.140 with so much and i i'm guessing they didn't expect it either so so they moved to the right

00:06:19.240 of the conservatives fiscally with with carney they're talking about axing the carbon tax

00:06:24.400 And now they're trying to move right of the conservatives socially.

00:06:27.980 They're talking about a moratorium on immigration.

00:06:30.580 I wonder if they're just saying, hey, guys, why don't we just try to poach some of the more radical ones from the PPC policy, like maybe withdraw from the Paris Climate Accord.

00:06:39.540 And then the conservatives are just completely irrelevant.

00:06:43.960 Yeah, absolutely.

00:06:45.900 Absolutely.

00:06:46.860 And this is why I've been criticizing Pierre Polyev

00:06:50.460 and this conservative government for,

00:06:52.360 or sorry, this conservative party for two years

00:06:55.240 because they haven't really,

00:06:57.300 I've been very, very unimpressed.

00:07:00.560 They've just cynically sort of been an establishment party

00:07:03.760 trying to be strategic, trying to be smart,

00:07:05.800 not really kind of showing their hands,

00:07:07.180 not really showing anything other than that we're not Trudeau.

00:07:10.320 And because of that, we have this movement

00:07:12.000 that's based on anti-Trudeau.

00:07:13.880 And now that Trudeau's gone,

00:07:14.820 it's based on a bunch of very shallow catchphrases and that's not much to get people invigorated and

00:07:22.680 especially if you have someone like Carney show up and say a few things about the economy

00:07:26.540 you're kind of not that relevant anymore it's not that impressive anymore and what I've been

00:07:31.960 calling for is you know Polyev needs to be way more aggressive in terms of reinvigorating the

00:07:37.500 Canadian spirit it's that was the perfect opportunity after the convoy here we have a

00:07:42.300 leader, Justin Trudeau, not even recognizing fundamental rights of the country, acting like

00:07:48.980 a tyrant. And that's a great jumping off point. That's a great sort of thing to poke Trudeau

00:07:58.700 in his side. And he's really hardly done that. With most of the press conferences or comments

00:08:04.680 that Polyev has made about the trucker convoy, he almost brings it more often back to the cost

00:08:10.760 of living like he still doesn't really say the magic words of like vaccine mandates or 0.52

00:08:15.060 tyrant or he's a disgrace to democracy like he's been very very he just not he does not

00:08:19.740 go into that that rhetoric towards Trudeau and what he did during COVID and I think there's

00:08:26.220 a reason for that probably because they have the same you know big pharma donors or you

00:08:30.440 know it'll upset different certain donors or people in Ottawa that pulled the lever

00:08:34.140 that actually pulled the levers between both the liberals and the conservatives you know

00:08:37.980 It's a very unfortunate sort of situation that we're in because not only do I think the Polyev and conservatives aren't really that different from the liberals, 0.98

00:08:51.380 but a lot of people are kind of buying into them anyway just because they're so desperate, 0.98

00:08:57.160 just because they don't see any other sort of options that they don't think that are strong enough.

00:09:01.500 So they're kind of just sitting back on the couch and saying, oh, I'm going to support Polyev.

00:09:04.620 and um yeah it was a great opportunity to try and like reclaim uh the meaning of the country

00:09:10.520 and to actually oppose Justin Trudeau and his progressive politics but he hasn't done that

00:09:16.820 you know if there's anybody who's playing Mr. Dress Up more than anybody right now it's Pierre

00:09:20.220 Polyev pandering to Sikhs and Hindus so yeah you got a fan you're a smart man Greg thanks Sherry 0.95

00:09:28.780 appreciate that um you notice how pierre polyev he's aged like like several years like five years

00:09:36.960 in the last year it's a it's amazing what happens when you take your uh when you take your glasses

00:09:42.740 off um uh dude i i totally agree he doesn't look very hot he doesn't look very good um like he

00:09:53.960 looks uh stressed and it's it's just you know there's a lot to be said about the vibe there's

00:10:03.980 a lot to be said about the coolness factor and this is truly how human beings work therefore

00:10:12.060 it's how leadership and psychology works and therefore it's how politics works you can hate

00:10:16.900 trudeau all day he's attractive he can he's been able to swindle people with his charm

00:10:23.380 and his slow speaking pattern okay uh with poly f he's been trying to emulate something trying to

00:10:30.560 create a strongman persona unfortunately i don't think it resonates he's you know he's been getting

00:10:35.960 better but in general he looks stressed he looks like he's reading a script it looks like he's

00:10:41.300 he's crapping his pants half the time especially now with with all this trump stuff and you can

00:10:45.520 feel that right you can feel that um and people as i said earlier they're so um they're so

00:10:54.740 demoralized and they're so they don't they like they're so desperate for an option to for something

00:10:59.020 for some sort of hope that they delude themselves they completely delude themselves into thinking

00:11:04.200 that this poly of guy is a strong man that's going to save us that being said that those

00:11:08.260 delusions have cracked with trump showing up getting elected actually pushing things that

00:11:14.420 of post-progressive politics and starting to bully us you know now that we see what a strong

00:11:20.540 charismatic merit charismatic conservative leader is actually like i think there's been a lot of

00:11:25.440 disin disin uh disenchanted conservative party supporters i was actually on the phone with one

00:11:32.020 the other day i used to grill them all the time and say poly have sex poly and i would put you

00:11:37.200 poke holes and everything and i'd kind of like you know like you know rib him a little bit and

00:11:40.920 and he hated it he hated it the one time he even hung up on me he's like i don't want to have this

00:11:45.800 phone call you're mean but now since the trump thing since trump has shown up actually been a

00:11:51.860 strong man uh he's exposed the like how weak our leaders are including polyev and now i had the

00:11:58.980 phone call with him the other day and he's like yeah this polyev is not the guy he's not the guy

00:12:03.060 to save this country it's becoming pretty obvious and and i think it's important to emphasize how

00:12:08.060 there's no, what's it called? There's no

00:12:12.740 poll. There's no study that explains this, that proves this, that shows what I'm talking about.

00:12:23.200 I've made videos before to say like, like this leadership thing happens on a heart level.

00:12:27.720 Okay. We can do all the, all the focus groups we want, but it's really, you know, it's either,

00:12:32.860 you either resonate with people or you don't, you get inspired by people or you don't. And

00:12:36.200 And that is something that happens in this kind of psychological realm,

00:12:40.340 this kind of unconscious, unspoken thing that is very, very powerful in politics.

00:12:46.380 And a lot of people who follow politics, unfortunately,

00:12:49.120 especially on the right wing, I don't think they get that.

00:12:50.760 I don't think they truly understand that element of politics that's crucially important.

00:12:57.000 It's not like a popularity contest.

00:12:58.560 It is a popularity contest.

00:13:00.220 It's not like you should try to be cool and look attractive

00:13:03.300 and say things that are really viral on Twitter.

00:13:06.200 even if they're not specifically about policies but it actually is all about that you know it's

00:13:10.520 all about that it's all about being the cool person in the room being the strong man in the

00:13:14.200 room and you know swaying people to to to your way of thinking uh have you noticed that um

00:13:22.760 pure poly have like he's re rebranded himself i i can't even i stopped counting like he he tried

00:13:28.680 different do you know what i'm talking about like he did those little videos where he's holding the

00:13:32.520 a quarter and he's like all right liquid natural gas that didn't work so he bulked up and he went

00:13:37.120 door to door and then he tried doing the trump thing where he goes to factory workers and now

00:13:42.560 i think it's completely imploded and they've unleashed their candidates and they're putting

00:13:46.120 out videos yeah i mean they're always they're always doing everything except actually being

00:13:51.860 a strong nationalistic conservative person right like like they're we could we could list off the

00:13:59.600 the amount of crazy slam dunks saying like strongly saying that there is only 0.70

00:14:05.440 two genders strongly saying that we need to stop

00:14:08.400 immigration and he doesn't even do that it would be

00:14:12.480 so wildly popular with the base and the clips

00:14:17.120 would go viral but all we ever get is sort of this

00:14:19.760 sheepish passive shy way of sort of saying that but not coming out and

00:14:25.120 actually saying it and then we're told no no no no

00:14:29.360 The media is going to attack him.

00:14:31.100 The media attacks him anyway.

00:14:33.340 And also, he's able to, he can't talk about immigration or there only being two genders.

00:14:38.040 Simple slam dunks for a conservative nationalist as a leader in Canada.

00:14:43.040 But he can say, proudly at a podium, we are going to send more arms to Ukraine.

00:14:49.280 You know what? 0.97

00:14:50.260 Iran is a genocidal state. 0.99

00:14:52.380 And it would be a gift to humanity if Israel bombed Iran. 0.90

00:14:56.160 So he's like, he does not hesitate for having these very pointed, very aggressive stances on foreign policy when he's not even a leader, by the way. 0.79

00:15:06.440 But he can't even say basic things like, hey, maybe as a conservative, we should stop mass immigration or even slow it down.

00:15:12.500 He always just says we're going to improve the system.

00:15:15.320 Oh, and even recently, you can see clips of him with the glasses and without.

00:15:20.600 And he's like, we need direct flights to Amitsar. 1.00

00:15:23.540 like he's you know he'll say that proudly in a room full of Sikhs of course he's not going to

00:15:28.680 say that in you know Sault Ste. Marie surrounded by you know white Canadians but yeah it's it's

00:15:36.800 very uninspiring it's very uninspiring it's very sad and as I said people are so kind of desperate 0.99

00:15:43.520 that they're deluding themselves into thinking that this guy is going to seismically change

00:15:48.140 things where i i just think uh if or when he gets in it's going to be a sort of nominal improvement

00:15:54.960 i i say that uh there's there's two assumptions made uh trudeau assumed that trump would never

00:16:03.600 get into power and uh and pierre polyev assumed that trudeau would never get out so pierre

00:16:09.360 polyev's entire strategy was you know trudeau bad so now trudeau's gone and his whole credibility

00:16:14.900 imploded yeah and uh speaking of rebrand there you know he had the glasses being the smart guy

00:16:21.560 took the glasses off uh shout outs to diagonal on and and and jeremy and ferryman because they

00:16:28.000 started the millhouse meme that this is where this came from and and then he took his glasses

00:16:33.140 off and then there's like a millhouse meme of millhouse taking his glasses off and he's all

00:16:37.340 beady-eyed and like it looks like it looks like paul the f with his glasses off meme magic is

00:16:42.920 real but um no it's it's i i kind of feel bad for the guy honestly like he's he's trying out there

00:16:49.060 you can see how uncomfortable he is and stressed trying to be a be a politician be a leader and

00:16:56.680 it's just yeah it's just it's not working it's not working for the guy um and uh but yeah they're

00:17:03.540 doing a rebrand this friday i think is it is it february 14th they're doing a rally they're gonna

00:17:08.980 They do a Canada first rally, which is the new phrase.

00:17:11.400 This is the new brand, which is, I don't know how you're going to, like, it sounds good.

00:17:16.400 But to say this guy is Canada first, that is a stretch.

00:17:20.620 But needless to say, they're going to go for it anyway.

00:17:23.920 It's like a shakeup, though.

00:17:25.920 Trudeau, I guess he's technically still the prime minister.

00:17:28.800 He said he poached this whole idea about interprovincial trade, which is technically not a people's party position.

00:17:34.480 It's been talked about over the years.

00:17:36.080 But he's coming out and he's talking about that.

00:17:38.020 Now Pierre's candidate, one of his MPs, is talking about monopolies,

00:17:42.500 government-sponsored oligopolies and monopolies,

00:17:45.000 so they're trying to be anti-corporatist.

00:17:47.620 So I don't know what Canada's going to look like in two weeks,

00:17:51.060 three weeks with the political parties.

00:17:53.140 Yeah, it's very interesting.

00:17:54.180 The landscape is really shifting.

00:17:56.700 It's really shifting right now, and it is quite exciting.

00:18:00.820 But honestly, call me ignorant, call me black-billed,

00:18:08.020 But I'm not tuning into much of it.

00:18:10.780 I feel like it's a lot of grandstanding, but not a whole lot of substance.

00:18:16.720 And I mean that for everybody across the board.

00:18:18.840 You have all these liberals trying stuff out, trying out different messaging, trying out different branding to try and capture the imaginations or the support of Canadians.

00:18:30.440 And because Trudeau is now gone, you have Polyev doing the same thing, kind of trying out different brands, trying out different things.

00:18:36.160 and it's hard to take any of it seriously

00:18:38.720 in terms of what they're saying

00:18:40.280 and what they will actually do

00:18:41.700 and

00:18:44.160 we care about the Arctic now

00:18:47.080 and it's like oh we care about the Arctic

00:18:48.360 because of Trump

00:18:49.040 it is funny

00:18:50.600 it's sad but it's also funny

00:18:52.580 because

00:18:53.180 Trump is in charge

00:18:55.360 you know Trump is kind of dictating

00:18:57.460 the conversation

00:18:58.540 from the US

00:18:59.840 by just going out

00:19:01.680 like saying a few things in a press conference

00:19:03.440 and now our and the entire country

00:19:05.520 has to react and uh yeah it's uh i made a video about it but like we're not really in a great

00:19:13.680 negotiating standpoint uh with the states sure we we could kind of you know do our own sort of

00:19:20.280 retaliation to tariffs but um just in general like we don't really have a united front we're

00:19:25.520 not really a united country whatsoever right now um and that doesn't help um that doesn't help any

00:19:32.620 of our leaders because it's a lot harder to be agile and to actually move forward with something

00:19:37.240 more radical when the country is like not even you know not even behind it like you know we don't

00:19:43.200 even really have a prime minister right now it's like the time the timing is uh if you're trump

00:19:47.780 the timing is perfect right uh i um like i said like trudeau really thought that trump would never

00:19:55.200 get into power so he just figured he could continue destroying this country indefinitely

00:19:59.200 and now you got this you know sort of quasi foreign threat and as you said you can't form

00:20:03.860 a united front we don't have a good bargaining position yeah yeah yeah it's uh it's certainly

00:20:12.060 i'm hoping it's going to be the absolute low point of canadian identity in the 21st century

00:20:19.220 because yeah like what is there what is there to be proud of what is there to you know kind

00:20:26.520 of get behind that's promising really all you really have is is the ppc and um yeah i mean

00:20:34.200 there's there's there's a lot of work to do there's a lot of work to do so yeah i mean like

00:20:40.420 at the people's party like we're trying really hard and and it's i i feel it now like there's a

00:20:46.060 lot of citizens that stepped up so i'm guessing it was the same when when you ran where it was

00:20:50.560 just citizens that were sacrificing their time they're going out there and it's just you don't

00:20:54.660 have the brand recognition of the conservative party but you do it anyway yeah yeah it's it's

00:21:00.680 uh that was a that was a really exciting time joining the ppc in 2019 and you described it

00:21:07.720 very well it was like that it was a bunch of people who had never really been in politics before

00:21:11.360 uh what's the word bright-eyed bushy-tailed naive you know had no idea what they're getting

00:21:18.660 themselves into including me you know i had a bit more of an idea of how how badly we were all

00:21:24.160 going to get slammed by the mainstream media but it was funny talking to other people there

00:21:28.500 and and like we're doing kind of like a uh crash course on being a politician how to debate how

00:21:33.780 to campaign all this stuff over the course of a couple days and um the one person's like oh well

00:21:39.600 what do we do if we get uh slandered as like racist by the media and i told them it's not an

00:21:46.700 if sir it's a it's a when you get slandered by the media the the difference i would say is um

00:21:52.180 i would say i'm biased i i it was tougher it was tougher back then for the ppc okay it was

00:21:58.380 climate change was the thing and suggesting anything about immigration made you like

00:22:04.080 persona non grata i had old ladies just become totally hostile and like run away from me

00:22:13.080 basically by when i said i was with the ppc grown men like like like there's this visceral reaction

00:22:19.460 and uh yeah it was nuts it was nuts so that's when that's when i the red pill for me then was

00:22:24.800 realizing how effective um propaganda is you know just like just a small comment on the cbc of oh

00:22:33.080 well you know there's some connections maybe to white supremacists that manifests as there are

00:22:38.580 literally nazis get them out of my neighborhood like it snowballs into something much more ugly

00:22:42.680 in public life uh just when it's like one little comment uh in the newspaper it's almost like

00:22:47.280 telephone like it kind of like just grows and gets even more more ugly and exaggerated to the

00:22:51.880 actual people who consume it um it was a lot worse uh you actually got media attention in 2019 i

00:22:59.000 think after that they realized uh it's better to just pretend ppc doesn't exist yeah so i think it

00:23:05.500 was uh that was very interesting i do think that max got really lucky they did give him a lot of

00:23:11.360 press i think it was kind of a ploy to hurt the conservative party it's like if we can if we can

00:23:17.680 focus on this guy leaving the conservative party we can make the conservative party look bad right

00:23:22.620 we can make them look uh like a shattered sort of broken um um institution or party and to try

00:23:31.440 and humiliate them so let's talk to max they call them mad max i don't know who came up with mad max

00:23:36.380 we got to bring that back though man like we got to bring back mad max and really kind of

00:23:41.280 take on that that bombastic I don't care energy but yeah they certainly do try to

00:23:49.200 yeah like never mention them now and I think that it's it's really the PPC's job to to push the

00:23:55.560 envelope to like go out there and say the things that might get you called racist or whatever but

00:24:01.680 that's I'd say that's the beginning of the campaign you know people disagree with me on

00:24:07.640 But if you see the trajectory of Donald Trump in 2016, when he got called racist, that wasn't the end.

00:24:15.280 That was the beginning.

00:24:16.880 He got called racist in the media every single day.

00:24:19.260 And the thing is, people would be like, oh, is he racist?

00:24:22.380 And they would look into the actual clip.

00:24:23.980 They would look into what he actually said and be like, I actually kind of agree with him.

00:24:27.920 I could see why people think that's racist, but he's actually right.

00:24:31.360 And I think that's really the key for PBC candidates and MACs.

00:24:36.220 it's it's to it's to find that like that perfect like line that lane kind of leaving the breadcrumbs

00:24:42.920 for the media to kind of bait them yeah come come call me racist for saying this because you could

00:24:48.100 call that racist but the thing is you know we need to start the conversation we need to be like

00:24:52.900 unignorable uh to the mainstream media and uh it is it is a clever balancing act right because

00:25:00.180 because you know you don't want to go out there and say things that are actually like disgusting

00:25:03.600 and vile because then then that that doesn't help um but there is a certain line to walk i think

00:25:09.340 where uh yeah you kind of bait the media into trying to label you bad things but um

00:25:14.520 but the people will actually agree with you the people will actually agree with you and if you

00:25:19.860 talk to anybody by the way who's actually been like red-pilled no matter what the topic is

00:25:25.420 almost every single time this is how it plays out something that they sort of like

00:25:32.980 something that they sort of have sympathy for gets smeared as bad in the media and they're like huh

00:25:39.380 and then the person looks into it and they're like oh the media is basically lying they're

00:25:44.180 totally exaggerating like it doesn't have to be something to do with like racism and immigration

00:25:48.400 uh it happens on other topics but um that is like the red pill for so many people when something

00:25:56.060 they like or something they have some amount of sympathy for gets smeared by the media and then

00:26:00.360 the person actually looks into it themselves and they're like well this is actually dishonest maybe

00:26:03.780 there's more to the story here and then they kind of start to tumble down the rabbit hole and yeah

00:26:09.880 start to start to get on board with you know how how fake and dishonest our media is and and all

00:26:17.600 that so yeah for me it was Kavanaugh the Kavanaugh trial in the U.S. oh yeah see there you go there

00:26:25.760 you go the woman was so obviously lying through her teeth i'm like what the hell is going on here 0.98

00:26:31.240 and the the softball questions that the republicans were throwing her away i'm like why don't you

00:26:36.900 cross-examine her like like an actual you know court of law yeah yeah yeah yeah it's there you

00:26:45.180 go that's it it's that's when that stuff happens kelly blasey ford supporters right now yeah yeah

00:26:51.440 I don't recall all the details and the names of that one, but right.

00:27:01.460 No, it's okay.

00:27:02.400 I don't want to go down memory lane,

00:27:03.920 but I had a question about Operation Cactus and Warren Kinsella.

00:27:07.920 Did you get wrapped up in all that?

00:27:12.460 Not overly.

00:27:15.180 Obviously, I heard about it.

00:27:16.360 I remember hearing the clips, the elite clips of people who used to work there.

00:27:25.560 Yeah.

00:27:27.040 Honestly, it makes me feel kind of sick to my stomach to even think about someone like Warren Kinsella,

00:27:32.660 these very cynical political operatives who are just hired to push some sort of narrative.

00:27:39.160 You know, like Warren Kinsella most recently has made articles about immigration being bad, about how, you know, someone like, oh, multiculturalism is bad.

00:27:49.860 And it's like it was your full time job to make Maxine Bernier look racist for saying this exact same thing back in 2019.

00:27:58.520 And it's just like I'm used to this now, but it's just it's just like these these people are disgusting.

00:28:04.240 like these people are absolutely uh vile and disgusting and it's it's crazy that they

00:28:08.260 still have a career that people still listen to them and um yeah it's it's it's such a thankless 0.99

00:28:15.360 thing to be ahead of the curb it's so it's such a thankless job to hey immigration is going to be

00:28:21.940 a problem we should talk about it now no shut up racist five years later hey we need to talk

00:28:26.980 about immigration hey that's what i said shut up racist you're still you're still racist or 0.73

00:28:30.520 something uh we know that you were correct but we we don't care about that we're not going to talk 0.87

00:28:34.600 about it uh and you're still crazy by the way we're still going to call you crazy um but yeah

00:28:40.420 that's just kind of the way it is and i guess that's kind of why i started um it's been a while

00:28:45.560 since i've done an episode but i did this podcast called controlled opposition which kind of talks

00:28:50.260 about this um this phenomenon of you know fake opposition you know the conservative party being

00:28:58.280 fake. And to the same degree, the sort of media does the same thing. Because the media is supposed

00:29:03.880 to oppose the ruling party. They're supposed to be critical of the ruling party. But they are

00:29:10.600 subsidized by the Canadian government. And yeah, I've always been like a media nerd. So it's

00:29:15.620 something I'm very interested in. The way that these people kind of subversively say that they're

00:29:19.180 on your side, say that they're holding the government accountable. But if you follow the

00:29:23.260 ball, if you pay attention to the details, it's like that's not, you're not doing that. You're

00:29:27.320 not doing that at all oh you're criticizing this five years later oh you're talking about this a

00:29:33.180 year later when it's totally irrelevant and also you called everyone crazy who was talking about

00:29:38.260 it when it actually was relevant and when there actually was a pivotal moment when we could have

00:29:42.080 done something about it and it's uh yeah it's it's it's a very it's yeah i keep tumbling down

00:29:49.620 the rabbit hole and it's it's uh just it's just kind of getting grimier and and sneakier and

00:29:54.460 snake here and all these weasels everywhere and uh and yeah this this kind of i i look out for the

00:30:01.180 subversion more than anything now and i don't really pay attention as much to sort of the wwe

00:30:06.640 liberal versus conservative you know so what do they say in question period uh that stuff doesn't

00:30:13.300 interest me as much because it really just kind of feels like the bread and circuses

00:30:17.520 And it's become the bread and circuses.

00:30:21.520 It feels very, very fake.

00:30:24.020 And meanwhile, we have major institutions.

00:30:28.580 Most major institutions have completely failed us,

00:30:31.420 might be compromised with foreign interference and other things.

00:30:35.140 And, you know, they sort of allude to it,

00:30:38.260 but it's like, why aren't we investigating this?

00:30:40.640 How can we trust any of you, quite frankly?

00:30:45.380 So, yeah.

00:30:47.520 It goes back to what you said earlier, the sense of apathy, like everybody is looking at U.S. media, so they didn't care about SNC-Lavalin.

00:30:54.160 But that treat the potential treason, foreign interference, not nothing like nobody in my circle of friends even knew about it, let alone cared.

00:31:04.120 Yeah, yeah. And, you know, if you think of the media's job, it's supposed to tell the news and hold the people in power accountable.

00:31:14.120 But if you imagine that, maybe they're actually doing something completely different.

00:31:18.560 Maybe their job is to convince the public that that's what they're doing, right?

00:31:25.540 Like their job is just to convince you that we are holding them accountable.

00:31:30.160 That's the whole job.

00:31:31.520 It's not to actually do any of that.

00:31:33.100 It's to convince the viewer that we're holding them accountable and we're totally doing a good job at telling the news.

00:31:38.320 And when you think of it that way, everything starts to make perfect sense.

00:31:41.860 Like everything starts to make, oh, okay, that's why they're not going into detail.

00:31:45.340 That's why they're saying this and then kind of pushing it aside because it makes it, yeah, I feel like they're taking care of it, but they're not.

00:31:51.180 They're just kind of doing this thing where they baby us, they kind of lull us back to sleep, and we don't get into the nitty-gritty details.

00:31:58.120 And this is something that has been so frustrating that I've noticed for a long time.

00:32:02.160 You know, I always say that Canada is perpetually on amateur hour in comparison to the States.

00:32:07.160 You know, our media, our marketing, you know, our business world.

00:32:09.860 like you don't even have to be in politics if you work in business you notice a huge difference

00:32:14.260 between how an american company operates and how a canadian company operates no offense canadian

00:32:19.440 business owners but you know this is a very real sort of pattern where uh americans are much much

00:32:24.940 much more professional and aggressive especially in terms of like communications and marketing

00:32:29.340 but um yeah and also like to extend that they really americans really care about um their

00:32:38.700 politics they treat it like a sport they get involved they care about their constitution

00:32:43.040 they they say what somebody lied what somebody violated part of our constitution they care

00:32:50.020 they go into the nitty-gritty and they will make a big deal they'll make a mountain out of a small

00:32:54.400 molehill molehill detail and we don't have that sort of obsessive obsession with um like the like

00:33:04.460 being righteous that obsession with sort of truth and uh like upholding like freedom honesty and

00:33:11.980 what the constitution is supposed to mean we we don't have that same autonomy that so many americans

00:33:17.160 do i used to make fun of it oh my freedom americans saying my freedom oh they're just a

00:33:21.800 bunch of dumb americans but then after covid i'm like i wish we had that i wish we i wish we had

00:33:27.920 more dumb canadians who are just like my freedom you know and uh we did have that thankfully to

00:33:33.660 sub-degree but it's not nearly not nearly as strong and uh as it was in the states and we saw

00:33:39.520 as i said during covid how important that is how important that is to have uh when you're you know

00:33:45.980 when you're becoming a demoralized nation when you're becoming oh my god real quick markanin

00:33:51.360 thank you so much for the 10 gifted memberships on youtube you are a legend sir thank you so much

00:33:57.580 i really appreciate that shout outs to markanin in chat oh my gosh oh sevens i don't i don't see

00:34:03.360 him on my side so he's probably on your side only yeah i think so wow uh yeah sorry about that

00:34:11.640 sorry um yeah i don't see him over here but you were my question was going to be why is that why

00:34:15.920 do the americans have that that sense of responsibility that we don't i mean that's

00:34:24.380 that that's that's a great question um i uh i i usually look into more of why we don't have

00:34:31.260 any of that in Canada you know like I try to focus on why we don't have that here and how we

00:34:36.400 can try to cultivate that here but that but maybe that's actually a better way to even answer the

00:34:40.360 question is like what does the states have that we don't why do they have such a strong sense of

00:34:47.020 national identity and I think the answer is is a big convoluted one that has to do with American

00:34:54.040 history and um all the way back to 1776 and uh certain attitudes that were there with the

00:35:04.480 founding fathers and the founding like constitution document blah blah blah and how that and i guess

00:35:09.740 the question is like how did that spirit of 1776 why has that lasted so long that's i guess that's

00:35:18.000 kind of the question why has that lasted so long why has that had such staying power

00:35:22.440 um was it the national anthem just a really great banger song was the flag so cool you know like

00:35:30.900 and and i think probably the answer is is something to do like you could probably if

00:35:38.000 if you kind of did a psychoanalysis of every single american president that could probably

00:35:43.460 gets you closer to the answer because you know that there there's going to be a common pattern

00:35:48.840 there of what all these american presidents had or believed or cultivated and maybe it changed a

00:35:55.760 little bit over the over the centuries but um no i'd say that that that is a that's a profound

00:36:01.480 question and it's uh i would like to know the answer so we can try to cultivate that here

00:36:06.500 before we become part of america you know maybe it's too late question yeah so um

00:36:13.520 well where do you land on this whole 51st state thing

00:36:16.660 um i don't think we have much power in the situation i think like as i said i think that

00:36:25.260 we could try to put up a fight if we wanted to um but i think in the long run america has a lot

00:36:32.880 of leverage over us and as i said because we don't have a unified front there's the the people who

00:36:37.240 should be the most righteously strong in wanting to keep our sovereignty which should be conservatives

00:36:43.440 which should be right-wing people uh they want to join america they're looking at the short-term

00:36:48.980 grab bag uh first amendment second amendment cheaper taxes let's do this uh hey what about

00:36:54.260 our sovereignty what about like the long-term consequences eh shut up i want this now i want

00:36:58.800 to get i want to get the short-term grab bag now um so it's very sad it's very very sad it's it

00:37:04.340 like you know justin trudeau has successfully destroyed this country he's successfully

00:37:09.980 destroyed the sense of nationhood and um so it's it's a very very kind of sad moment i think in

00:37:16.780 our history uh when you see the the appetite to join the states at the drop of a hat and

00:37:23.640 obviously the hypocrisy from the left saying that they're team canada now that's totally disgusting

00:37:28.460 and pathetic um but uh i'm honestly i'm open to anything i'm hoping it's going to be i'm hoping

00:37:35.800 that he's doing this to try and negotiate to get greenland and he's kind of putting canada on the 0.52

00:37:41.260 table to create a talking point to become part of the conversation to bully us around in terms to

00:37:47.020 get what he wants i don't think he's actually going to move forward with it though i just think

00:37:51.760 logistically it's way too way too crazy to actually implement all that he's got bigger fish to fry

00:37:56.620 but you know there might be an arrangement where he's just like well i want you know i want part

00:38:02.100 of the arctic i want more security here i want more security there i want you to do this i want

00:38:06.760 more secure border you know i think that um it's a negotiating tactic first and foremost i don't

00:38:13.280 think it's actually going to happen but for canadians i'm hoping this is going to be a wake

00:38:18.480 call i'm hoping this is going to be a point of uh to create some leverage and to uh help cultivate

00:38:26.760 a stronger sense of national pride and even national identity you know we need we need to

00:38:32.320 scrap this whole post-national trudeau stuff and uh get back to basics and and really try to find

00:38:38.720 out who we are and what we want uh as a nation and what terrible pair of prime ministers the

00:38:46.660 father and son like from from pierre trudeau the decline started and you know the son finished what

00:38:52.360 the father started it's like uh it's almost like a shakespearean story that's interesting that's

00:39:00.560 interesting that's an interesting uh yeah it is it is quite the epic it is quite the epic um

00:39:06.680 absolutely uh i wonder if there'll be any merchants in the story but yeah it's uh it's it's

00:39:12.980 certainly a generational thing uh i'm not super well versed on canadian history when it comes to

00:39:19.800 uh pierre elliot trudeau you know i kind of know the basics but um one book that i do want to get

00:39:26.600 is by um the uh what is it canada in decay by um i forget his name right now i follow him on twitter

00:39:37.280 by Canada in Decay

00:39:40.300 by

00:39:41.780 Ricardo Duchesne

00:39:45.020 and he talks about

00:39:47.240 beginnings of mass immigration

00:39:50.000 the racial diversification of Canada

00:39:52.260 how that started

00:39:54.260 kind of like you know

00:39:55.700 back in I think the 70s he says

00:39:58.020 and

00:39:59.580 yeah I think there's a lot to be said about that

00:40:03.420 and how certainly the seeds were already planted

00:40:05.580 way back when

00:40:06.400 and trudeau came to finish the gerb came to finish the job so yeah

00:40:12.560 yeah the the whole i i was looking into the history of it so it started out in the 60s

00:40:20.740 where they were questioning multicultural biculturalism and bilingualism and they

00:40:27.080 they said it was racist against the first nations and against the ukrainian population

00:40:32.280 And from that, you got that turd bill, the Multiculturalism Act, which Pierre Elliott Trudeau picked up and ran with, and then the conservatives came in under Mulroney, and they're like, well, if we can't beat him at this immigration game, we can join him.

00:40:46.740 So they leaned into immigration even harder, and the country's just been going down and down and down.

00:40:52.040 I mean, yeah, it's it's certainly it's certainly been a thing, certainly been a thing.

00:41:04.260 And so much of the nation takes it for granted, too.

00:41:07.260 Like up until a year ago, up until like a few months ago, everyone, a lot of Canadians basically said, well, you know, immigration is good.

00:41:19.140 What could be wrong with immigration? 0.95

00:41:20.280 and then it was you know a few viral clips of you know east indians doing some questionable

00:41:26.160 stuff in public and then people are like whoa maybe uh maybe we do need to maybe maybe immigrate

00:41:32.040 maybe there are consequences to immigration which aren't preferable hmm interesting so

00:41:39.480 um yeah i mean you got two problems two two two issues with getting the immigration

00:41:47.860 message out the first one is the the rich people in the rich areas which generally influence policy

00:41:55.080 they're not subject to the initial ramifications of immigration it's always in these like terrible 0.55

00:42:00.500 ghetto areas where they don't they never see the immigrants the second one is when you bring the

00:42:05.500 immigrants over i'm trying to talk to them and try and tell them you know mass immigration is not a 0.99

00:42:09.760 good thing it's almost impossible to get through to them because the number one thing they ask me

00:42:14.800 is what can the ppc do to bring my family over and i'm like oh nothing brah brah yeah and that i

00:42:24.260 mean it's that's how disgusting is that though instead of trying to collectivize people who

00:42:30.020 already live here behind the same banner so many politicians are cynically going well how can we

00:42:35.540 pander to the new people and give them benefits and bid you know we'll get their vote right

00:42:40.660 It's pretty gross.

00:42:41.700 Like this, this idea of, you know, pandering to every other group, pandering to groups

00:42:52.080 is fine as long as it's not, you know, white Canadians who have already lived here, you

00:42:58.040 know, like that is something that is just not, not done by politicians.

00:43:01.980 And part of it is the fact that white Canadians who live here don't even think of themselves

00:43:07.700 as a group. 0.61

00:43:08.700 Maybe the French do.

00:43:11.580 Maybe the Quebecois do. 0.74

00:43:13.280 They certainly do.

00:43:14.160 They certainly like to have their sense.

00:43:15.940 They have a more fierce sense of identity.

00:43:18.400 And they fight for it.

00:43:19.960 And they oppose immigration.

00:43:21.360 They're, like, allowed to be racist.

00:43:23.000 They've been allowed to be racist for some time.

00:43:24.900 It's kind of interesting how Quebec kind of gets this pass to be more aggressively against immigration and for their culture and for their identity.

00:43:34.820 Whereas, you know, Albertans are just, oh, they're actually racists.

00:43:38.400 And this will, and this is like not, you can watch, you can watch, um, 22 minutes, you know, comedy sketches from the CBC that reflect this exact phenomena.

00:43:49.240 And it kind of just kind of goes unquestioned, you know, like the, the, these, these white Albertans who think of themselves as a collective group, they're just racist.

00:43:57.380 And I think that, um, you know, to kind of go a bit deeper on this topic, uh, and also a bit broader at the same time, you know, it's,

00:44:08.020 We've been programmed for a while here in Canada.

00:44:11.120 I don't even see color.

00:44:12.380 Diversity is our strength.

00:44:13.660 You know, immigration is just a thing.

00:44:15.160 And what comes with that is this idea that, you know, that race isn't important.

00:44:21.400 Race isn't this thing.

00:44:22.480 You know, Canada is just an idea.

00:44:23.880 Canada is just a paragraph.

00:44:25.180 Canada is just like this zone of people where people are living.

00:44:27.980 But at the same time, when you talk to people, it's like this only applies to white majority countries. 0.65

00:44:38.020 You know, like people who look Indian coming from India, people get that. 0.71

00:44:44.920 Oh, yeah, of course.

00:44:46.000 Of course, Indians are from India. 1.00

00:44:47.660 Duh. 1.00

00:44:48.440 You know, people who are African are from the continent of Africa. 1.00

00:44:51.680 Duh. 1.00

00:44:52.580 Hello. 1.00

00:44:53.540 Chinese are from China. 1.00

00:44:54.560 Duh. 0.97

00:44:55.640 But for the UK, it's like, well, they could be any color.

00:44:59.620 England?

00:45:00.320 They could be any.

00:45:00.940 What do you mean?

00:45:01.860 This Irishman, a black man could be Irish?

00:45:05.880 Why not?

00:45:06.760 That's an Irishman. 0.81

00:45:08.020 And this phenomena of being any color you want, it only happens in white-majority countries.

00:45:17.720 It's a very interesting phenomena, and it's something that is deep.

00:45:23.200 It's deep, deep, deep, deep, deep into the programming.

00:45:26.940 And I think people need to understand it.

00:45:30.040 I think people need to first kind of confront.

00:45:31.680 It's uncomfortable, but people need to first kind of confront that and understand it.

00:45:35.740 And people might say, oh, so what, you're a white supremacist and you want all the brown people to leave Canada now and you want to kick them all out?

00:45:45.140 Not necessarily.

00:45:46.140 No, but it's like, no, not necessarily at all.

00:45:47.920 But it's more like we need to first address this problem.

00:45:50.340 We need to first address this issue, this phenomenon that's going on because I think it's sort of a mentality that specifically disenfranchises white people from thinking of themselves as a collective group who have collective interests.

00:46:04.620 and you know we can

00:46:06.340 we'll cry all day about how being post

00:46:08.620 nationalist is bad but it's like well

00:46:10.580 what what should

00:46:12.640 be there and the answer

00:46:14.760 is a collective sense of

00:46:16.680 identity with the people who are there and

00:46:18.620 sorry but they happen to have a

00:46:20.780 common European heritage

00:46:22.940 most of the

00:46:24.800 time and it's not to like denigrate

00:46:26.580 people who are non-white who have

00:46:28.820 been here for generations not at all

00:46:30.420 but it's also like if we don't kind of look at

00:46:32.760 like the basics like the base of like the primary character of the nation then uh we're still kind

00:46:40.600 of just trying to play diversity games again and actually not be honest with uh you know what what

00:46:46.040 the core identity of the nation was initially i'm gonna go back to what i said like the biculturalism

00:46:53.560 bilingualism commission and then the multiculturalism act it just it started this i don't know

00:46:58.800 if you want to call it a snowball or a dumpster fire that slowly got bigger

00:47:02.660 and bigger. And then you like the country just abandoned the concept of

00:47:07.660 culture. So it was on a crash course with this post-nationalism thing.

00:47:11.960 And then on top of that, 0.91

00:47:13.220 that what I mentioned is when you bring immigrants over,

00:47:15.860 they bring with them what they know. That's all they know.

00:47:18.200 That's all they are. And they like you, it's very easy to pander to them.

00:47:22.680 And I see the government does this with women too. 0.79

00:47:24.600 So like you, it's a divide and conquer thing where you go to women and you

00:47:27.540 say hey all men are sexist you know vote for us we'll give you more rights and then when when one

00:47:32.340 of us says wait a minute no no it's all about equality you can't do that be like see we told

00:47:36.160 you they're sexist they're doing that same thing with immigrants we told you they're racist they

00:47:41.220 want it they don't want you to bring your family over and you sprinkle on top of that all that

00:47:45.500 globalism nonsense it's just it's a disaster yeah yeah it's it's a lot of uh defying what's natural

00:47:56.260 what our natural instincts are you know people will point out the one strong woman or the one

00:48:04.040 you know woman ceo or the you know the exception to the rule and it's like well this is the

00:48:10.500 exception to the rule i i kind of like the blue apple example you know uh they'll say look here's

00:48:18.180 a here's a strong woman ceo here's a blue apple apples are blue and it's like this is an exception

00:48:25.000 though not all apple most most apples are not blue actually most most women are not ceos most 0.96

00:48:31.180 women you know fill in the blank um and they do that with everything they don't just do it with

00:48:36.880 uh the sexes but they do it with um you know they'll do with immigrants too they'll see like 0.96

00:48:42.400 look at this look at this well-adjusted somalian guy who works for uh td bank they're all like this 0.64

00:48:49.640 it's like well that you know this is like one americanized uh somali they're not they are not

00:48:56.240 all like that actually um and they and they constantly love to do this where that will

00:49:01.400 they'll take one exception to the rule and try to kind of make you go against your own uh instincts

00:49:08.840 and uh yeah it's it's very destructive it's it's it is you know i i've recently become

00:49:15.880 a christian and it's because i think evil is real and i think christianity has the best sort

00:49:23.740 of manual to identify it and and look at it and you know the the devil is all about deception

00:49:29.140 it's all about deceiving it's all about inverting things um and yeah i just feel like there's a lot

00:49:36.020 of that at play there's a lot of sort of continual narrative lies that were told on a regular basis

00:49:42.400 and it's just so many lies to swim through.

00:49:46.540 It's so many different things to try and disentangle.

00:49:52.040 It's quite maddening, as I'm sure you've been enjoying, right?

00:49:59.600 And unfortunately, they say it's easier to trick somebody

00:50:02.960 than to convince them that they've been tricked,

00:50:05.840 which is very unfortunate, but yeah.

00:50:09.760 Well, I mean, just look at COVID the last four or five years.

00:50:12.400 Hmm. Yeah. Yeah. No, what do you mean? That was all above board. That was all fine.

00:50:18.720 Lying, lying during COVID. No way. Everything was safe and effective.

00:50:23.600 So are you, are you excited for, for the upcoming election? When do you,

00:50:27.980 when do you think it's going to happen?

00:50:28.920 Do you think we're going to have an early spring election or you think it's

00:50:31.040 going to get pushed till the fall?

00:50:33.900 I don't, this is a good question. And everything is just changing.

00:50:39.340 Like it's everything's so fluid. So it's hard to say.

00:50:41.640 I thought that Jagmeet Singh would not call an election and then Trudeau resigned and I thought, okay, now he has to call an election.

00:50:50.720 But now you got Mark Carney in.

00:50:53.420 So it's to their advantage because Singh can't win.

00:50:57.100 They're bankrupt.

00:50:58.280 Carney needs time to sell the country on his vision of patriotism or whatever.

00:51:04.160 So I think they're going to ride this out for as long as they can.

00:51:08.440 Maybe September 2026.

00:51:11.640 Yeah, if I had to bet, I would definitely bet it's going to go until the fall as well.

00:51:18.720 Mostly because the sentiment for the conservatives is still very strong.

00:51:24.580 And the liberals will want as much time as possible to try and rebuild their brand, rebuild their candidate.

00:51:32.620 So yeah, I think it's probably going to be in the fall.

00:51:36.560 And this idea that Jagmeet, like everyone's like, of course there'll be an early election.

00:51:40.380 Do you really think Jagmeet Singh is going to, like, do the right thing?

00:51:43.580 Like, I doubt it.

00:51:44.920 You know, all it takes is one guy in his ear, one guy putting money in his pocket.

00:51:50.320 Not that that would ever happen in Ottawa.

00:51:52.820 But, yeah, it's like I'm not super optimistic that Jagmeet Singh is going to do the right thing, guys.

00:52:00.040 What a loser.

00:52:01.060 Like, that guy is just a – I mean, Pierre Polyev is spineless.

00:52:04.000 Okay, fine, you know, Milhouse.

00:52:05.760 but but jagmeet singh if you um if you like just listen to him on audio not not video and you don't

00:52:13.720 see the beard and the turban he sounds like a frat boy like you think he's the kind of guy that

00:52:18.260 would do like a keg hit upside down he sounds like a dude no i've never heard that take before

00:52:26.580 that's that's that's that's funny i think you might have to have something there he definitely

00:52:29.620 does yo bro it's the bro totally bro yo it's it's your groceries we're making them cheaper bro yeah

00:52:38.320 no that's it that's pretty funny um I mean he definitely is he he's a loser but back to my

00:52:45.620 earlier point he's really good at playing like the popularity game he's really good at like somehow

00:52:50.720 having all of these fans and just like appearing like cool and charming and it's very maddening

00:52:56.840 And trust me, I'm not saying I support him, but I've I've started I say this stuff sometimes and people don't like it.

00:53:02.580 And like I'll give Trudeau compliments and say, hey, I don't like what he's saying.

00:53:07.720 It makes no sense. But he's actually a really effective politician, guys.

00:53:11.720 He had a goal to demoralize the nation, make it a post national state that has no identity.

00:53:17.400 And he was successful. So we can pull our hair out and hate him and be be frustrated by him.

00:53:23.020 and uh that's kind of part of his play but uh you have to kind of respect the fact that he is

00:53:29.300 he is uh doing effective politics whether we like it or not he is pandering to his base he's

00:53:35.120 pandering to his political idea he's pushing his ideas and uh and i just say that because so many

00:53:40.880 people i'll see so many people in the right wing who are like oh these people are just like

00:53:43.980 hypocrites and and they're saying things that don't make any sense and it's so maddening and

00:53:48.000 it's like our rhetoric should be maddening too. Our rhetoric should be maddening too to them.

00:53:54.840 We need to say things that is like so hard to come back from, so hard for them to respond to.

00:54:00.660 It needs to be something where we put them in an impossible situation and, you know, use the

00:54:06.120 emotional, moral arguments and, you know, just straight up looking cooler and, you know, zinger

00:54:13.740 one-liners of uh you know uh simple basic stuff like pop culture not pop culture but you know

00:54:21.240 trying to appeal to uh to the masses with sort of simple messaging that's about kind of one-upping

00:54:28.900 one-upping each other like in a think of it like a high school classroom or a high school hallway

00:54:33.440 or something like that like more conservatives need to think of it that way um because as much

00:54:38.260 just i hate jagmeet singh and thinks he's a loser you know he he's got the cool jacket on he plays

00:54:45.660 into the uh you know he's got some like cool people like next to him like snapping or whatever

00:54:49.900 i don't know but like he's good at presenting himself and presenting his ideas as dumb as they

00:54:54.920 are uh and he's and he somehow still has this uh this relevance which well i'm not even sure if

00:55:02.820 that's necessarily still true but there seems to be a lot of people who still like are just

00:55:06.520 hypnotized by his turban or something and like these diehard ndp something i think i think it's

00:55:11.880 a turban like um first of all i agree 100 but like um just because you hate someone doesn't

00:55:17.040 mean that they're not effective but you know how the left does this you get they they put a woman

00:55:22.220 in charge teresa tam for example they tell her like whatever you do don't put any makeup on 0.54

00:55:27.320 come out looking like a hobgoblin get the lesbian haircut something like that probably that's what

00:55:34.800 this jimmy dallywell guys do it it's like it's like but i don't know i don't even like wearing 0.91

00:55:38.820 a turban they're like sir we'll show you how to put it on you know we'll we'll make it for you 0.87

00:55:42.300 in the morning just wear it payment iscari will lose his shit i uh i've said this i've said this 0.58

00:55:47.740 before i think on a podcast but i i totally believe that whenever a liberal politician 0.70

00:55:53.560 is going to be pushing a piece of legislation that's like especially crazy and insane they

00:55:58.100 always get a woman or a brown person to do it because then if somebody criticizes and if somebody

00:56:03.960 criticizes it oh you're racist you're sexist how dare you say this and a great example is probably 1.00

00:56:09.880 christia freeland it's like i can't believe what this dumb bitch is doing to our economy it's like 1.00

00:56:14.760 you're sexist and it's like what like it's it's effective unfortunately if you go to the mo's 1.00

00:56:22.540 office they have one of those like in case of emergency break minority glass and like a woman

00:56:27.900 or a minority that's good that's good i like that in case of in case of emergency

00:56:32.960 grab a minority or a woman out of yeah that's funny greg uh one question from the audience uh

00:56:40.000 i'll find it for you but they want to know why you're not running

00:56:42.340 i i'm focused on changing the culture i'm focused on changing the canadian culture

00:56:50.740 i'm making a documentary right now the trailer the teaser trailer is going to be dropping

00:56:57.740 within the week i'm really excited about it and uh yeah it's not that i don't uh support the ppc

00:57:05.420 or don't think running is super effective i think running is very important because you need the

00:57:10.420 people going charge running into the fray knocking on the doors showing up at events being there

00:57:16.740 to represent alternative ideas that are outside of the ottawa bubble and opposes the ottawa bubble

00:57:22.880 so i think it's really important to for people to be there um but yeah i just think that uh

00:57:30.900 i'm i'm focused i'm focused on making the content right now i'm focused i'm trying to focus on

00:57:36.840 kind of creating creating more of a platform and more of a movement to people to get on board with

00:57:43.780 because sure there's there is the ppc to get on board with but outside of that you know what do

00:57:49.020 you have outside of the conservative party you you have rebel news you have true north

00:57:52.580 you have a few others and uh a lot of them are unfortunately carrying water for the conservative

00:57:59.120 party so that's not good and i'm hoping to get into that space where they are and try to create

00:58:07.340 my own sort of platform that's uh that people can jump on board with and kind of come into the world

00:58:15.780 that's adjacent to the PPC world

00:58:18.300 that tries to educate people a bit

00:58:21.280 on what's happening in the country.

00:58:23.740 There's a lot of work to be done.

00:58:25.740 And I guess to answer your question,

00:58:28.260 I am not running and I'm instead focusing on content

00:58:31.580 because I believe based on my skills and talents,

00:58:36.040 I think that there's way more leverage

00:58:38.200 if I focus on building a media company.

00:58:43.040 I think that I can create way more leverage

00:58:45.240 and therefore be way more effective

00:58:47.640 by focusing in on that.

00:58:53.700 Andrew says your content is good.

00:58:55.840 Yeah, I agree with that.

00:58:58.160 I think the People's Party,

00:58:59.820 the PPC has taken this movement

00:59:03.040 as far as it can.

00:59:03.960 Like it's got a very good platform

00:59:05.560 and that's the role of a political organization.

00:59:08.820 But what we need is people,

00:59:10.020 like what you're doing,

00:59:11.240 we need people to be out in front

00:59:13.080 and educating the people

00:59:14.300 because as a politician, if you go to the door and you have to explain these things at the door

00:59:18.880 in 30 seconds, it's not really possible. So if you look at the Trump administration,

00:59:23.740 what did they do for the four years from 2020 to 2024? Social media, like they're just putting

00:59:28.580 out messaging and Mike Benz has been preparing people for this USAID debacle. Yeah. And

00:59:37.240 you know after the convoy it became very clear that activism was of course important but

00:59:45.820 like that activism at the trucker convoy that was the sort that was an emergency that was an

00:59:51.420 emergency there was a lot of urgency around that people kind of just collect it naturally

00:59:57.440 collectivized together because of the dire situation and it worked it was very miraculous

01:00:03.980 how it worked um but now we don't just need activists like we need we need entrepreneurs

01:00:10.600 we need people who are building stuff we need people who are looking at the long term

01:00:15.800 and also confronting and accepting how bad things really are which can be tough which can be very

01:00:23.160 tough it's not easy you know and that's why when i look at this political landscape right now

01:00:27.720 i just see a lot of especially people on the right wing a lot of people flailing around

01:00:32.160 acting like scared children quite frankly they're they're they're not thinking for the long term

01:00:37.560 they're thinking oh i just want to get rid of true though oh just just vote for polyev oh i don't

01:00:44.480 want i don't want maxis he's not gonna win oh let's become the 51st state yeah maple mega like

01:00:49.520 it's it's all very like you know impulsive it's like an impulsive child who just kind of wants

01:00:55.500 a piece of candy and uh that's not like that just speaks to how uh desperate and afraid we are

01:01:01.760 but that's you know giving into that is definitely not the answer the answer is to be an adult to be

01:01:07.980 a grown-up to see wow this is a this is a real mess in here you know it's gonna it's gonna take

01:01:13.400 a long time for us to even begin to clean this up but it's uh and it's gonna be hard work but

01:01:20.480 you know someone's someone's got to do it and I also do encourage people like it doesn't always

01:01:24.900 have to be a political organization you know like it can be something that's sort of adjacent to

01:01:30.960 politics um you know there's other ways to be effective uh you know like not everyone has to

01:01:37.100 be a youtuber you know not everyone has to be a politician maybe if you have a hobby or maybe if

01:01:42.680 you have like a skill or you work in a certain industry and then you think of something to grow

01:01:47.460 from that like we we need not just entrepreneurs but like we need like to put it a different way

01:01:54.240 um we need kind of like our own elite right there's there's a lot of right-wing people who

01:01:59.960 We're like, oh, the corrupt elite, they're screwing us over, blah, blah, blah.

01:02:03.020 And you're right.

01:02:04.400 However, we need to have the mentality of, you know,

01:02:07.280 when it comes down to turning this country around,

01:02:10.860 it's not just like destroying.

01:02:13.040 I had a debate with this anarcho-capitalist, this libertarian the other day,

01:02:17.020 and he kind of has this like wet dream of just like destroying the government

01:02:20.380 or something and like something better would take its place.

01:02:22.540 And it's like, let's talk about what's actually realistic, you know.

01:02:26.540 There's not going to be this huge destruction of our institutions.

01:02:31.640 The people in power are going to ensure that.

01:02:33.680 What we need is over time, we need powerful, successful people who own businesses, who

01:02:39.700 have resources that are part of a network, who all agree on the same politics, who have

01:02:46.400 a similar sort of vision for what they want, and then maybe they can get into political

01:02:51.200 parties.

01:02:51.700 Maybe they can get into certain institutions and industries and start working together

01:02:55.740 to actually steer our institutions in the right direction

01:02:58.940 or make alternative ones to fill in the blank.

01:03:04.140 And maybe that sounds like sort of abstract,

01:03:07.780 but it's a lot less abstract than this idea of just like,

01:03:11.020 let's just, we're going to destroy the government

01:03:13.860 and something else will come in.

01:03:15.240 It's like, no, we need to look at the long term here.

01:03:17.980 We need to look at the long haul

01:03:19.120 and it's not going to be a little simple Death Star solution

01:03:23.300 where somebody just kind of shoots a missile into the Death Star,

01:03:26.740 the whole thing explodes.

01:03:27.540 It's like, no, it's going to be a long slog,

01:03:29.460 a long road ahead, could take generations.

01:03:34.420 But at the end of the day, people need to be skilled.

01:03:38.340 People need to be successful.

01:03:39.400 People need to have money, have a good job,

01:03:43.180 and build something worthwhile.

01:03:46.320 So, Greg, I actually have to go.

01:03:48.540 I've got to do a drive down to the bank.

01:03:49.960 and I was planning on listening to your debate with,

01:03:53.760 I think it was Gov on Jason Levine.

01:03:55.980 Yeah, yeah.

01:03:57.360 Yeah, so if anybody wants to follow that,

01:03:59.840 you can go to Jason Levine's profile or YouTube account.

01:04:03.680 You can catch it there.

01:04:05.840 Before we go, Greg, can you just tell people

01:04:09.420 where they can go follow you, watch your content?

01:04:12.700 Yeah, sure.

01:04:13.420 So if you Google my name, most of it should come up.

01:04:16.900 I got a website, gregwycliffe.com.

01:04:19.380 You can also check out my Twitter at G-Dub, G-Double-D-U-B.

01:04:24.320 I'm on YouTube at G-Double-D-U-B.

01:04:27.380 Or, again, just search for my name and you should find my social media.

01:04:30.920 Thanks a lot for having me, Payman.

01:04:32.180 And, yeah, I mean, best of luck, of course, with the campaign when it comes up.

01:04:37.080 And, you know, we got some time to try and, you know, build a strong PPC narrative, I think, before the next election.

01:04:44.580 Especially with all these other people floundering around trying to fight Trump, right?

01:04:48.900 Yeah, yeah, I'm not worried.

01:04:51.100 The more they're averaging voters, the better it is for us.

01:04:55.380 Awesome, awesome.

01:04:57.520 Greg, thank you very much for coming on.

01:04:59.400 I know you're a busy man, but I really appreciated this.

01:05:02.080 Thanks.

01:05:02.940 Yeah, and heads up for the trailer that I'm going to be dropping for the documentary I'm making.

01:05:09.120 That should be coming up in the next week.

01:05:11.100 Thanks so much for having me, man.

01:05:12.800 I appreciate it.

01:05:14.260 Anytime, buddy.

01:05:14.920 Take care.

01:05:15.820 Awesome.

Greg Wycliffe - February 13, 2025

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