Greg Wycliffe - August 14, 2024


LIVE🔴 Bill C-63 🔴 Cop Tells Woman what to say Online 🔴Critical Race Theory ? 🔴SAVE FREE SPEECH .ca


Episode Stats

Length

3 hours and 45 minutes

Words per Minute

157.73752

Word Count

35,645

Sentence Count

512

Misogynist Sentences

32

Hate Speech Sentences

128


Summary

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Transcript

Transcript generated with Whisper (turbo).
Misogyny classifications generated with MilaNLProc/bert-base-uncased-ear-misogyny .
Hate speech classifications generated with facebook/roberta-hate-speech-dynabench-r4-target .
00:00:00.000 that's awesome so hey welcome to the stream everybody uh i thought hey haven't been live
00:00:07.560 in a while gotta shake off the rust hope everybody is doing good in chat uh i see
00:00:13.760 kaboobol in chat christine cabana uh sylvana kingsland if you guys are keeping your track
00:00:22.640 like eyes on that if that debate um if brattney actually shows up then then send that in chat
00:00:29.300 Because I do want to hear that interaction
00:00:31.520 If that's actually going to happen 0.96
00:00:32.520 I don't know if she was there already or what
00:00:34.280 But I just saw that on my Twitter
00:00:35.760 And I was like I want to hear this
00:00:37.500 Gotta see this
00:00:39.440 Shoutouts to Ferryman and Jeremy and Diagalon of course
00:00:42.580 I had
00:00:43.420 You know I want to do more kind of
00:00:46.440 Chill streams like this
00:00:48.180 Where I just kind of go over some things with you guys
00:00:50.280 And
00:00:51.520 Yeah just browse Twitter
00:00:54.020 There's some work that I want to do
00:00:56.500 For SaveFreeSpeech.ca
00:00:57.940 so that's kind of a reason that I thought you know what let's just do it with everybody as well
00:01:04.460 you can hang out put your suggestions in the chat of course and yeah because I mean for me
00:01:13.700 this is kind of like the off season right now you know August it's a lot of people are not
00:01:18.180 really paying attention they're on summer vacation fair enough but I want to you know
00:01:22.080 I want to ramp things up get ready get prepared for September because this could be the time
00:01:27.860 where they try to push through uh blc 63 and it's not going to happen on my watch okay not
00:01:34.260 unless i'm shit posting all about it all over the canadian internet uh to make it as painful
00:01:38.660 as possible for them right but uh for this evening we got a few things we're going to be reacting to 1.00
00:01:45.320 a um if you've heard about this woman in uh grand bend or wasaga beach she was kind of going viral
00:01:54.140 because she was like there's people pooping on the beaches okay and they're immigrants and they're
00:01:58.720 they're indians and she said that she made a few videos about it showing evidence and i don't know
00:02:03.300 if you have seen this yet but the police showed up the police showed up the police showed up um
00:02:10.460 to her house and the police are basically coaching her yeah yeah well uh you know don't talk about
00:02:17.940 race just don't bring up the race this is a police officer police officer coaching a canadian
00:02:23.640 citizen on what to say on social media and and by the way showing up to her house because of
00:02:29.560 something she posted on social media and you know if you haven't seen what's happening on um in the
00:02:37.940 uk then it's like i made a video about it recently i tied it into bill c63 of course it's um yeah
00:02:45.980 this is it's a foreshadow guys it's a foreshadow of what is coming here unless we do something
00:02:53.080 about it. And, uh, I'm hoping with this project, say free speech, the idea is this, there's so
00:02:58.660 much chaos going on in the country. And honestly, most of it is totally, uh, valid to talk about
00:03:06.760 and prioritize, you know? So don't get me wrong. It's not like, I don't think this other stuff is
00:03:10.920 like arguably even more important, but, um, we can't talk about all this other stuff or anything.
00:03:18.020 We can't even be a dissident
00:03:20.140 We can't even be an actual voice
00:03:22.120 If Bill C-63 passes
00:03:24.500 Like if this bill passes
00:03:25.960 We're all fucked
00:03:27.680 Or rather our jobs
00:03:30.260 As dissidents
00:03:31.800 As further right people
00:03:33.200 Who are pushing for our ideas and our values
00:03:35.200 Yeah our job will be next to impossible
00:03:38.820 Or it will be very very difficult for us to do anything about it
00:03:41.540 And that being said
00:03:43.240 If you do want to support Save Free Speech
00:03:45.600 We're going to be updating the website
00:03:47.800 to be even better um in september but right now you can check out the uh the give send go
00:03:54.560 give send go.com save free speech we already have two thousand four hundred and fifty dollars which
00:04:00.960 is amazing um there's a documentary that we're working on that's where these funds are going
00:04:07.140 towards editors um and marketing and uh yeah people need to know this story of what's going
00:04:15.740 on in canada because it's uh there's like there's no one else who's really taking the time to tell
00:04:22.280 the story you know rebel news doesn't want to tell this story for some reason true north doesn't
00:04:26.760 really interest it they just kind of want to push the next group of people in power which is the
00:04:30.500 conservative party of canada right so uh we got to do it ourselves we got to do it ourselves and um
00:04:36.880 big shout out to everyone who's already donated um i'm really excited i'm really excited because uh
00:04:43.200 there's a lot more in the pipeline
00:04:45.460 a lot more exciting things in the pipeline
00:04:47.860 and I kind of got sidetracked there 1.00
00:04:49.580 number one we're going to go over the Wasago woman
00:04:51.380 who was told by the police
00:04:54.320 what to say on social media
00:04:55.420 number two we're going to go over
00:04:57.640 the best liberal arguments
00:05:00.180 in favor of Bill C-63
00:05:02.600 and there is a press conference
00:05:04.760 by you know
00:05:06.260 Arif Varani the liberal minister
00:05:07.960 who tabled this piece of shit legislation
00:05:09.720 pardon my language sorry 0.87
00:05:11.040 sorry about that
00:05:12.800 oh wow uh we're gonna be going over all that that's kind of the work that i have to do
00:05:18.000 uh i've already looked over it before but i want to look over it again
00:05:21.100 and uh just it's a good reference because it's the best argument for the bill uh they're not
00:05:28.780 very good some of them a lot of them are completely absurd and uh yeah so we're going
00:05:33.280 to be going over that and then number three later on uh i'm gonna workshop a kind of a
00:05:41.600 short video comedy video that I want to work on or that I want to post rather I've had it I've
00:05:47.060 had it on the back burner for a while but it's about critical race theory it's a critical race
00:05:51.660 theory jingle um yeah and I think you guys I think you guys will enjoy that uh but I guess
00:05:59.880 without further ado we'll just uh we'll just get into it we'll just get into it maybe I should
00:06:04.140 bring the chat up on the screen maybe I should do that how are you guys doing how are you feeling
00:06:08.100 Shout-outs to EdgyDTV in chat.
00:06:10.800 This man is a legend, let me tell you.
00:06:14.760 Yeah, I love this guy.
00:06:18.000 Josh Brown says, or EdgyDTV says,
00:06:20.580 people are spending years in jail now in Britain for mean tweets.
00:06:23.420 Yeah, exactly.
00:06:24.640 Exactly.
00:06:26.140 And their bill is, their bill, what is it called?
00:06:30.480 It's almost the exact same name.
00:06:32.000 it's called the online safety act ours is the ours is the um
00:06:42.880 hold on let me bring it up here
00:06:45.780 is this right i think this is right online safety act published may 2024
00:06:54.200 what does it do oh look it protects children and adults online this is the exact same
00:07:01.980 excuse that they're using in canada exactly the same uh let's read a bit of this the act will
00:07:11.020 give providers new duties to implement systems and processes to reduce risks their services
00:07:16.780 are used for illegal activity to take down illegal content when it does appear yeah so
00:07:23.500 i should probably take notes while i do this just to double my time that's kind of the whole point
00:07:29.340 of the chill streams like this but um yeah let's make let's make some notes shall we um
00:07:45.660 and the point i'm just writing down is big tech already does this okay big tech uh you know you
00:07:51.580 think you can post like ornographic material on facebook no actually i guess you can do that on x
00:07:58.460 Elon Elon Musk but it like the the the implication is that you know the
00:08:07.400 government wants control the internet but they're like no no like we're gonna
00:08:10.940 be the ones who can determine what will protect children online not not the big
00:08:14.600 tech platforms if they were serious about this and this is a point if they
00:08:21.060 were serious about protecting kids, they would target a specific company. Oh, maybe I'll
00:08:33.060 even bring it up here. Just give me a sec. Oh, it changed its name. I'll just bring up
00:08:43.780 there's a company
00:08:46.540 formerly called Mind Geek
00:08:48.440 now it's called ALO
00:08:50.020 is a Canadian multinational
00:08:52.380 pornographic conglomerate owned by
00:08:54.540 Canadian private equity firm Ethical
00:08:56.560 Capital Partners
00:08:57.700 it is primarily involved in internet pornography
00:09:00.680 operating a number of video sharing
00:09:02.700 websites like if the government
00:09:04.700 if the Canadian government was serious
00:09:06.360 about protecting kids online with
00:09:08.620 sexual exploitation they wouldn't
00:09:10.680 just do a blanket thing of like
00:09:12.300 youtube and and uh and facebook and all these big tech platforms which have super super super
00:09:18.560 tight regulations when it comes to this type of stuff they would say hey mind geek operates in
00:09:23.340 canada if i'm not mistaken their headquarters is yeah in montreal quebec can't like if they were
00:09:27.320 serious they would even like call them by name mind geek but let's face it they are they're not
00:09:33.580 trying to do that okay it's about it's about controlling people remember it's about controlling
00:09:38.700 the internet remember all right let's get into this uh first clip here it's gonna take me a sec
00:09:44.340 to bring up um i do want to bring the chat on screen though i'm gonna i'm gonna take a second
00:09:51.260 to do that hmm yes it's true it's true i'm drinking starbucks
00:10:08.300 it's true guys online harms act i sent an email to my local mp regarding this crappy bill and got
00:10:16.740 no response adults need protection online shut off your computer if you can't take it yeah no 0.61
00:10:21.800 shit exactly uh i don't know if you guys know tyler the creator but uh he was like you know 0.62
00:10:30.340 he's a musical artist he was a big shit poster provocateur when he was first kind of becoming 0.60
00:10:34.740 popular and he had a very funny tweet about this which was uh online bullying like laugh my ass off 0.98
00:10:42.040 like nigga just walk away from the computer you know and it's it's true so you think you know wicks 0.98
00:10:49.600 oh really we got ads we got ads on our music don't worry don't worry i'm on top of it 0.95
00:10:56.120 don't worry the conservatives will appeal it sarcasm yeah exactly exactly this is another
00:11:03.160 argument that needs to be made really clear to uh you know canadians or concerned canadians about
00:11:08.800 their freedom of speech passing this bill pierre polyev wants this bill to pass
00:11:15.480 pierre polyev wants bill c63 to pass because if it passes especially before the 2025 election
00:11:22.300 then that's a perfect reason to be like wow trudeau bad isn't trudeau so bad because that's
00:11:27.720 whole that's a huge that's like 75 percent of peter polyev's talking points is uh justin trudeau
00:11:35.720 bad so yeah of course you would want bill c63 to pass hello because that's another reason for
00:11:41.780 trudeau bad and all right you gotta vote for me i will appeal it or repeal it great uh they're
00:11:48.140 spending tens of millions hundreds of millions of dollars into the budget to set up all of these
00:11:53.620 regulatory bodies that would be part of bill c63 it's insane it's insane uh yeah i don't have to
00:12:01.700 tell you that this conservative party stinks the people in here already know this ethical great
00:12:07.220 name for a porn company is that what it was called that was called alo alo alo what the fuck with the
00:12:15.500 coffee what I can't drink coffee at eight o'clock all right let's get this first let's get this 0.56
00:12:26.840 first video up here let's react let's react where is it right here this is actually credit
00:12:43.340 where creds do. This is a good piece by by Sun News. Are we
00:12:49.040 looking here? Okay, okay. Wasaga Beach incident tick tocker gets
00:12:56.580 a door knocker from police.
00:13:04.340 This, these people right here, you're gross. She's seen that
00:13:08.400 they were using this as a washroom. Pooping on beaches
00:13:11.300 seems to be very common you guys need to know what you're running into when you come to a sega beach 1.00
00:13:16.340 and it's not locals doing it it is people coming from out of town and it is immigrants that think 0.98
00:13:21.940 it's okay to dig a hole pop a squat and bury their poop where kids play in the sand and i just want
00:13:30.340 to point out how that's like just such a basic take that most of the country would agree with
00:13:38.020 and we're gonna see she's getting like picked on for this here's some guy who is this joe
00:13:42.820 warming just for saying that this woman named natasha who on tick tock goes by natty lynn
00:13:50.900 received a visit from an opp officer there is a uh somebody called in yeah about somebody posting
00:13:59.460 uh things on tick tock about east indians defecating on the beach which i'm entitled to
00:14:07.460 i wasn't being racist my daughter's indian my baby father's indian i lived with his family 0.86
00:14:12.840 it wasn't any i wasn't whoa whoa whoa slow down lots to unpack there um i i hate how they jump
00:14:19.840 to i'm not i'm not racist right away um first of all so there already is anonymous tattletailing
00:14:27.860 that's happening that a police is going to show up to your door because you said something about
00:14:36.020 immigrants uh what like this is it's it's um way more people should be outraged by this
00:14:46.620 because you know i'll talk to people about bill c63 and how terrible it is and they'll agree 1.00
00:14:52.880 but they'll say oh that's too absurd that's not gonna pass stuff like this is already happening
00:14:58.200 this bill would just make it worse this bill would just make it like even a more developed
00:15:04.420 ecosystem for people to tattletale on others for having the wrong opinion or saying something about
00:15:10.000 immigrants it's already happening the police are already like showing up like dogs to be like oh
00:15:16.600 someone was someone said that you said something about immigrants what the fuck is is the purpose
00:15:23.100 of this police officer right now is it you know and of course for everyone in the chat you probably
00:15:29.300 already get this but shitting on white people basically happens every day on the cbc by justin
00:15:37.220 trudeau like it's it's implied everywhere like our entire leftist news media in canada just oozes
00:15:42.880 this sort of anti-whiteness or feel guilty for being white it's like standard all across the
00:15:49.260 country in popular news media can i call the police and be like hey you need to arrest rosemary barton
00:15:54.720 you need to show up to justin trudeau's house he said he said that uh unvaccinated people are
00:15:58.920 despicable like the double standard is obvious like it's it's almost at the point where it's
00:16:03.340 like do i even have to mention it but it should be mentioned it should be emphasized in the in
00:16:08.120 the spirit of self-respect and honoring you know just the truth of the situation because this is
00:16:14.580 totally insane this police officer has been trained this police officer has been trained
00:16:20.200 and coached to say hey did you say something bad about immigrants or brown people white person on
00:16:26.920 the internet we got a 10-4 here we got we got to take her down she's resisting
00:16:32.080 anyway let's rewind that it gets even worse let's rewind that a little bit though
00:16:39.580 somebody posting uh things on tiktok about east indians defecating on the beach which i'm entitled
00:16:50.100 to what what's so creepy to me about this what's so creepy to me about this is um
00:16:56.920 this is like a sentiment i get from uh family members or close friends sometimes they'll say
00:17:03.580 greg oh uh you know someone that you know something that we know saw what you posted on instagram
00:17:09.820 okay and okay they're fragile i get it uh this is what i do for a living people like what i say
00:17:21.320 oh they disagreed all right like why are you talking to me like this is like a problem like
00:17:26.880 like we're gonna like i'm in the principal's office like i'm we have to sit down and talk
00:17:31.540 about this that that attitude is makes me sick it makes me sick because it just goes to show how
00:17:39.680 deep the the demoralization of canadians are where they've adopted the you know social
00:17:45.840 acceptability of like we need to go going along to get along to the oh i saw i saw what someone
00:17:50.740 posted and it made me uncomfortable you know it's like you know i don't believe in violence but like
00:17:58.280 these people need to be slapped in the face like hey shut the fuck up maybe maybe there's a lot of 0.66
00:18:04.940 people who agree with this first and even aside from that even aside from that it's like do we
00:18:09.940 live in a free country anymore you know where we can just like say what we want duh like the whole
00:18:15.960 premise of like complaining and whinging and whining about it is just so annoying to me and
00:18:21.080 and i gotta say who do you think does this it's mostly white people who feel guilty about being
00:18:26.180 white it's mostly people who are like you know completely indoctrinated and brainwashed do you
00:18:31.920 think any of the new immigrants or even just like people who are non-white in canada really give a 0.82
00:18:37.800 shit if i have some strong opinion probably the only ones who do are like you know university 0.83
00:18:43.400 educated uh indoctrinated as well oh what they said is problematic oh they're not going to get
00:18:49.560 a job with an opinion like that it's like take a look around you know like like read the room
00:18:54.020 this whole this whole mentality is uh just like ruining western society you know like
00:19:00.780 i feel like that's not even that uh that too far of an exaggeration
00:19:06.680 hell in a handbasket says sup greg how's it going man let's let's see what this cop has to say
00:19:13.100 i wasn't being racist my daughter's indian my baby father's indian i lived with his family
00:19:18.640 it wasn't any i wasn't threatening anyone there's the excuse i'm not racist my baby daddy is indian
00:19:27.640 blah blah blah she should not have to say this she sounds like she's she's on trial and this 0.80
00:19:33.580 and this is her excuse she's like hey i'm not racist oh my god you know i've slept with an
00:19:38.260 indian guy before and you know hey she's she's a sweet woman at least she's speaking up at least
00:19:44.740 she's saying something if you're watching i'd love to interview you but i gotta say you know
00:19:48.780 this again this attitude is such a problem this attitude is such a problem oh oh did i say the
00:19:55.980 wrong thing i'm so sorry i swear to god i'm not racist then again to give her some sympathy when
00:20:03.120 a policeman is at your door it is pretty intimidating uh because they do have the
00:20:07.980 authority unfortunately they do have you know they have the power to reign over you and screw
00:20:13.220 you over um more so than just like some other citizen who's complaining about what you said
00:20:18.280 on the internet right you know so i guess i'll give her some sympathy there but um yeah this is
00:20:25.880 this is uh you know the the best response to something like this is what are you doing bud
00:20:32.160 is this your job? Is this your job to police me on what I say on social media? You're the social
00:20:38.860 media police? It's literally the thought police. But anyway, let's keep going. I do nothing like
00:20:43.020 that. I personally have not had any calls for this type of behavior on the beach. Yeah. From
00:20:48.300 my understanding, it's actually these actual incidents happen sometimes. Look at the fidgeting
00:20:54.060 here look at the fidgeting this is this is this is a pull this isn't oh my god how can you live
00:21:04.080 with your imagine being this police officer well had i have had a tough day today you know they
00:21:10.180 they said that people are pooping on the beach and i swear they're not pooping on the beach
00:21:13.360 i never saw it must not be happening yeah um and from my understanding it's actually these
00:21:20.980 these actual incidents happened some time ago no it's been recently and my friend sent me proof
00:21:26.980 a couple days ago and if i can even get she messaged me that her stepdaughter jumped into
00:21:32.900 a hole and then i went to the beach and filmed all the tents on the beach uh yeah maybe yeah
00:21:38.580 this part's crazy i watched this already this part coming up is insane um talk about tents i have
00:21:46.020 i've only made one video that went extremely viral about it but maybe don't uh note a particular race
00:21:53.060 there you go thanks police officer thank you so much he's like well uh when you're posting online
00:21:58.980 you can talk about tents i'm the police officer i'm going to tell you what you can talk about
00:22:02.500 you can talk about tents but maybe uh don't think don't bring up the specific uh race of the person
00:22:08.660 again what the is this person's job i'm pardon the language but like
00:22:12.340 Like, this needs to be underlined and, like, exclamation pointed.
00:22:16.120 What is the job of this police officer?
00:22:18.660 Protect, serve, tell you what you're allowed to talk about on social media.
00:22:25.260 It's crazy.
00:22:27.040 It's crazy.
00:22:27.800 And for everyone watching who, you know, especially if you're, like, you know, from the Diagilon or PPC realm, it's tough for us out there.
00:22:37.560 because we see what's going on and it's not just the craziness but it's almost like it's always a
00:22:42.640 double reaction for or for me anyway I don't know I can't speak for all you but for me it's like
00:22:46.700 the thing we see is crazy and then the lack of an urgent reaction from more people is also crazy
00:22:55.740 and then we're watching this we're seeing this crazy thing we're seeing like no sort of like
00:23:00.360 strong pushback against the insanity and then it's like am I crazy like it's it's so it's so
00:23:06.600 disorienting and and so uh yeah of course demoralizing but uh i don't know i i'm in a
00:23:12.480 good space right now because i'm finding you you do austin s just said it's clown world you kind
00:23:17.720 of do need to embrace the clown world not accept it but like embrace the fact that this is this is
00:23:23.600 almost beyond comedy in terms of how crazy it is um but you know we need to keep a lightness of
00:23:29.660 spirit because it's going to be a long haul okay this is going to be a long haul and um you know
00:23:36.760 we need to stick together and sort of uh just be able to embrace the insanity and and be and you
00:23:42.580 know call it for what it is like that's that's lying that's absurd that's like yeah totally
00:23:49.480 unacceptable let's play that again i can't believe this guy well you can talk about uh you can talk
00:23:55.260 about tents that's okay just don't um as as your local police officer you're not allowed to talk
00:24:01.420 about uh the race of the person great thank you thank you so much i have i've only made one video
00:24:08.460 that went extremely viral about it but maybe don't uh note a particular race well i'm entitled
00:24:14.800 to speak on my experiences i did not tell anybody to attack them i did not allow racism i've made
00:24:21.000 clear that i do not condone to racism my daughter is indian so all those i'm not all those things
00:24:25.880 are good yeah but maybe encourage people to call uh bylaw the oh i have and i even in the news
00:24:34.120 article you can read that i did say that um if you guys see something say something that's been
00:24:39.480 my motto and i said this doesn't just go for anyone of that race anyone who does it's just
00:24:44.840 what i've seen and i was told it was cultural so i said that's besides the point because i don't
00:24:50.120 want my kids to step in it my friend's daughter did a couple days ago i don't want anyone i know 0.62
00:24:55.080 it's a biohazard and i was not targeting it this is it's a biohazard that's a great point i mean
00:25:01.800 this guy is on such a power trip to like be in there and being like hey i'm your social media
00:25:07.000 coach yeah i'm your social media coach okay i'm gonna tell you what to post about online
00:25:13.560 it's crazy yeah but the uh yeah free speech is totally totally intact here in canada
00:25:20.120 for those who don't know
00:25:23.100 we are raising money
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00:26:34.520 are associated with well not officially but under the table connected to other political parties
00:26:41.680 and they just farm that information they get your email address we don't ask for your email address
00:26:46.380 here even um they get your email address they get your postal code and then they ship that off to uh
00:26:52.920 to the political parties i've heard i've heard so number one we don't take your data we don't do
00:26:57.000 that uh number two um we don't send the email ourselves you send the email yourself and the
00:27:02.740 benefit there is it gets through the filter it gets through all the you know you can imagine the
00:27:08.240 MPs have a lot of emails that come in and a lot of spam.
00:27:11.300 So they have really aggressive spam filters.
00:27:13.260 This gets past the filter.
00:27:15.200 And I know that a lot of people here might be thinking,
00:27:18.000 hey, Greg, it's like, screw the, what do you call them?
00:27:22.580 Where you get all the signatures?
00:27:24.880 Screw the petitions. 0.95
00:27:27.220 Screw the petitions.
00:27:28.240 That shit doesn't work.
00:27:29.240 I agree with you.
00:27:29.760 I don't think petitions work.
00:27:31.100 However, it's about causing pain.
00:27:34.900 Like, you're right.
00:27:35.760 One email is not going to make a difference.
00:27:37.180 But if hundreds and then thousands of people go to savefreespeech.ca and do this and clog up an MP's email, that is something that causes pain to the people in the Ottawa bubble.
00:27:51.460 And that's kind of part of the whole strategy here is like causing them pain and discomfort and making them react to this.
00:27:59.700 But yeah, that's one tool that we've set up.
00:28:01.660 and of course the other thing you can do
00:28:04.040 is you can go to
00:28:05.200 you can go to our
00:28:07.920 fundraiser for the documentary that
00:28:10.000 we're making which is the
00:28:11.220 dirty tricksters and the ideologically
00:28:14.180 biased people
00:28:15.800 behind
00:28:17.320 Bill C63
00:28:19.000 givesendgo.com
00:28:21.480 savefreespeech
00:28:22.720 and yeah
00:28:25.260 it's very exciting stuff
00:28:27.780 let's get back to the rest of this video
00:28:29.920 though
00:28:30.180 specific group of people i have since broadened my words you know i'm not here to i know but you
00:28:38.400 guys came to my house though and it's embarrassing i'm entitled to my feelings i'm not here to
00:28:44.960 lecture you i know um what you're not here to lecture you you were just coaching her on what
00:28:52.940 to say on social media bro which is in a way worse than a lecture it because it's it's it's
00:28:59.620 it's even more pointed and directed and uh controlling it's like specifically telling
00:29:05.960 somebody what to say on the internet i'm not here to condemn you i'm here to whatever stuff i did
00:29:12.820 nothing wrong and i'll continue to talk about it because i'm allowed to but i good for you hey good
00:29:18.400 yay good for you that's the energy that's the energy that is the energy i wish i wish it would
00:29:25.800 have been that energy the whole way through why are you here why do you care what i posted on the
00:29:30.840 internet you're a police officer i didn't commit a crime why are you on why are you at my house
00:29:35.800 why are you at my house right now explain yourself that should be the response what right do you have
00:29:42.780 to show up to my house just because someone called and said hey i said something offensive online 0.89
00:29:47.160 i know my rights get the fuck out of here uh but good for her that she stood up and said i've done
00:29:54.800 nothing wrong because that's absolutely correct and that's exactly um that's exactly why uh yeah
00:30:02.040 that's exactly the energy we need more of i don't support anybody specifically targeting people
00:30:07.820 at the end of the day in 2024 this seemed very much like 1984 the police officer was respectful
00:30:16.340 and kind but the bigger question is should the police be going to someone's home based on
00:30:22.780 something said on social media i mean joe yeah sure the police officer was respectful and kind
00:30:29.120 but um he was also telling someone what to post on the internet like you know it's like
00:30:37.020 i he was you know actually you know what he was respectful and kind just like justin trudeau
00:30:44.860 was respectful and kind when he says do we tolerate these people yeah he was very respectful and kind
00:30:49.620 I totally reject that sort of giving, again, giving our political enemies points just because they're polite.
00:30:58.560 It's like they're passive-aggressively dehumanizing us.
00:31:02.120 You know what I mean?
00:31:03.380 Oh, but they were polite about it.
00:31:05.200 I don't care.
00:31:06.560 I don't care.
00:31:07.860 Stop giving our enemies the benefit of the doubt and giving them brownie points for acting polite.
00:31:13.980 Okay?
00:31:14.620 That being said, you know, I think there is something to that, unfortunately.
00:31:19.620 um because like part of me i'm a huge fan of jeremy mckenzie obviously and and ferryman
00:31:25.180 uh and derek and they can be very aggressive they can be very kind of angry and voicing their rage
00:31:31.920 and i think there's definitely a place for that but at the same time um i think there's also a
00:31:36.980 value in being anti-immigrant and also being polite about it and being very sort of respectful
00:31:44.180 while expressing your opinion, being firm and assertive. 0.86
00:31:48.180 But I think there is something to that.
00:31:50.860 Fighting fire with fire or almost like using nice coded Canadian language
00:31:55.680 to be anti-immigrant.
00:31:57.620 I think there's something there.
00:31:59.400 Anyway, we'll see.
00:32:00.940 We'll see.
00:32:04.740 Let's see what Joe has to say. 0.99
00:32:07.260 It's a pretty big stretch to call this woman racist. 1.00
00:32:10.420 She's a single mother. 1.00
00:32:11.380 and oh joe again i don't care i don't care dude i don't care if she is racist we should not care
00:32:19.560 about this again it's like it's the court it's like i said at the beginning she's like there
00:32:26.740 defending herself well i'm not racist as if she's on trial for racism this might be mind-blowing to
00:32:33.880 some of you guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys. It's not illegal to be racist.
00:32:50.880 Did you know that? It's not illegal to be racist. Why is everybody acting like it's illegal or like,
00:32:59.920 you know like it's the end of the world or something it's crazy it's crazy it's crazy
00:33:06.080 because it almost it almost like validates this theory that there already is a sort of
00:33:14.640 like parallel morality that is like the stronger operating authority in canada i've talked about
00:33:20.680 this before but it's like the liberal authority the sort of like justin trudeau moral authority
00:33:26.900 you know if you're racist then you will be a social outcast forever by the way you can be
00:33:35.120 as racist as you want against uh against white people you can uh spit on them you can tear down
00:33:39.620 their statues you can call them uh evil colonizers you can call them inherently evil but if you're 0.60
00:33:45.380 racist against non-white people then you are the fucking worst you're the worst you're a hitler
00:33:50.820 yeah but it's it's so it's so sad to see how deep the indoctrination goes right
00:33:57.540 it's so sad to see how it's just like it's infected everybody joe warmington love the guy
00:34:03.840 good guy but he's like well i don't think she's racist who cares who cares okay what about oh
00:34:12.140 what about uh freedom what about the fact that the police are targeting this person for posting
00:34:17.860 on social media what about the end of our free speech well was she racist or not it's oh my god
00:34:29.600 it's crazy and you know what um this this is a good foreshadow though of what fighting for
00:34:36.620 free speech is going to look like because it's going to get ugly it is going to get ugly it's
00:34:43.200 that whole adage of hey you know i may not agree with you but i need to defend your right to say
00:34:47.560 it it's like yeah i i will defend the right to racist anti-semites even anti-white people
00:34:55.900 believe it or not um you know to have their to have their right to say it we already have a good
00:35:02.500 line in the sand which is like you can't specifically target violence uh against a
00:35:07.960 specific person or group that line's been in the sand for a long time but uh again it's i i hate
00:35:15.440 this liberal courtroom of like well are they racist or not this is what's the most important
00:35:20.660 thing are they canceled or not that's kind of what you're saying joe like is this person a invalid
00:35:26.380 who's racist or not um because that's the only that is going to be the only determination of
00:35:33.120 whether you know we should value her rights or not and this is very spooky because it's definitely
00:35:40.000 where bill c63 is going you know a lot of canadians need to be pushed to give a shit about
00:35:47.520 bill c63 because you know they're not online posting about what's happening in this country
00:35:52.480 they're just trying to do their thing but and because of that their logic is going to be well 0.75
00:35:58.200 the bill's not going to affect me right the bill's not going to affect me so i don't give a shit it's
00:36:02.820 just going to affect the the dissidents who easily get characterized as racist that's not me so that's
00:36:08.960 fine with me but um yeah it's not good not good let's uh let's get through the rest of this video
00:36:17.120 sorry to be hard on you joe but man man you're just you're just you're the toronto sun is supposed
00:36:23.860 to be the right-wing media but they they operate on the same liberal moral authority of like okay
00:36:28.800 are they racist or not oh my god oh my god oh my god in the court of public opinion uh screw the
00:36:34.360 laws and freedom in Wasega Beach who merely was posting something that she thought stretched to
00:36:39.300 call this woman racist she's a single mother in Wasega Beach who merely was posting something
00:36:44.620 that she thought was important for the public to understand about the beach there whether she's
00:36:50.700 right or wrong or whether it's been proven or not going to her door seems like a big leap at a time
00:36:56.820 when people are concerned about their privacy and they're also concerned about over policing on
00:37:01.600 social media in the end of the day tick tock themselves restored her account and perhaps
00:37:07.860 that's where it should have stayed on the other hand the opp you know they had to make their own
00:37:13.920 call on it and i think that no one was hurt here perhaps it's time to bury this whole thing in the
00:37:19.720 sand and get out to that beautiful beach with sega beach ontario canada for the toronto sun
00:37:25.020 i'm joe ormington okay okay joe okay um to be honest i don't know joe very well but
00:37:34.280 conservatives have no teeth in this country there's no teeth there's no there's no fight
00:37:41.580 back there's no there's no resistance to this hey well i mean the opp i guess uh i mean i don't
00:37:47.820 think anybody was hurt no you should be condemning the opp and how despicable this is hello hello
00:37:54.540 but it's yeah well no one was hurt let's just bury this whole thing in the sand what what
00:37:59.300 what this whole thing is so indicative of thought police 1984 like you said and then at the end he
00:38:06.020 just kind of throws all that away and says let's just bury the hatchet crazy crazy what a goof
00:38:13.560 says prairie i mean hey like i said i'm part of safe free speech.ca is going to be about building
00:38:22.100 bridges with people who are you know conservative supporters I know that kind of makes people sick
00:38:28.900 to their stomach maybe in chat but that's that's we need to do that we need to play that game to
00:38:33.740 to get as many people fighting against his bill as possible we're not going to agree on everything
00:38:40.180 but but yeah it's going to be it's going to be it's going to take some time it's going to take
00:38:44.300 some time I do want to while we're kind of on this topic I do want to play I do want to get
00:38:49.920 another drink too so i'm gonna play our recent video at save free speech which uh if you haven't
00:38:58.060 seen it already it's a good one it's a good one it relates to the stuff that's happening in the uk
00:39:01.920 there's so much uh despicable stuff happening in the uk but um but yeah this is uh
00:39:10.500 this speaks to everything we're talking about which is the
00:39:14.580 you know the unbalanced enforcement
00:39:17.120 wow greg another ad on your video wow but um yeah it's a it's a piece that uh i'm really proud
00:39:26.220 i'm really proud of um you know we have an amazing team at safefreespeech.ca so i'm just
00:39:32.560 gonna play it uh real quick for you here last week in the uk three young white girls were
00:39:41.760 stabbed to death and the murderer was of African descent. This sparked massive anti-immigrant
00:39:47.840 protests across the country. The media characterized anyone who protested three innocent children
00:39:54.400 being murdered as far right. And the UK government is now enforcing their online censorship laws
00:40:00.740 to arrest anyone who shares sympathy with this protest online. This is a warning to Canadians.
00:40:07.300 The Liberal government wants to pass the exact same absurd laws on the Canadian Internet with Bill C-63.
00:40:15.080 Here's a clip from our upcoming documentary from SaveFreeSpeech.ca.
00:40:20.700 The Canadian Anti-Hate Network claims to fight back against racism.
00:40:25.200 But upon further investigation, one could argue that they are far more racist than many of those that they target.
00:40:31.320 You see, anti-hate aligns with the controversial critical race theory ideology.
00:40:36.960 CRT instruction is now illegal in over 35 states.
00:40:41.720 According to CRT, racism is primarily discovered anytime there is a difference in outcomes.
00:40:48.840 And lumps together all minority groups or non-white people with terms like BIPOC,
00:40:54.560 black, indigenous, and people of color, and pits them against white people.
00:40:58.500 Critical race theory promotes the belief that white people and the institutions they built
00:41:02.480 or supposedly didn't build are inherently racist and oppressive with crt the labels of oppressor
00:41:08.960 and oppressed are applied according to racial status specifically whites are the oppressors
00:41:13.440 and everybody else is oppressed this is just scratching the surface of the toxic ideas within
00:41:18.320 critical race theory that the canadian anti-hate network promotes and defends the term critical
00:41:23.600 race theory or crt has been replaced if you hear anti-racism instruction it is critical race theory
00:41:31.520 the canadian anti-hate network is launching a whole education program we'll work with schools
00:41:36.640 to carry out anti-hate workshops we are already doing these workshops the world view is not only
00:41:43.120 insulting to minorities who do not subscribe to this victim narrative but it also discriminates
00:41:48.480 against white people as a whole to our knowledge anti-hate has never reported a single instance of
00:41:54.320 racism or hate being targeted toward white people even though there are many examples of this
00:42:01.520 however this is not surprising because let's do a quick pause there let's do a quick pause
00:42:13.280 oh
00:42:17.480 chicago torture video four charged with hate crimes kidnapping oh boy
00:42:26.180 daryl brooks convicted of killing six people at wisconsin christmas parade is sentenced to life
00:42:34.940 learned and taught behavior so when we start back uh knocking white people the f out i don't want
00:42:43.100 to hear it the old white people too knock them the f out period daryl brooks shared pro hitler
00:42:49.100 memes called for violence against white people black man charged with murder impossible hate
00:42:54.060 crime after shooting two white strangers in the back of the head we gotta stop hate guys we gotta
00:43:00.680 stop the racism but if it's anti-white stuff does not hit the government's radar at all
00:43:06.020 dallas cop killer ranted about racism followed extremists online oh god man charged with shooting
00:43:14.720 a family after ball rolled into his yard allegedly made racial comment i said man that's crazy and 0.86
00:43:22.020 he said you white i don't even like white people i'm going to shoot your ass what's the clip what's 0.86
00:43:27.560 the clip from um the guy who made dilbert again should i look up the clip uh no no i'll just keep
00:43:37.160 it rolling but the guy from dilbert basically had a stream where he mentioned he brought up a bunch
00:43:42.420 of stats you guys probably heard this he brought up a bunch of stats and basically said uh yeah it
00:43:46.340 Turns out black people as a whole, like, do not like white people.
00:43:50.800 So you should get the fuck out. 0.99
00:43:52.820 Get the fuck out of the way.
00:43:54.120 You got in a lot of trouble for that.
00:43:55.380 But, you know, unfortunately, there's truth to it.
00:43:58.200 You know, unfortunately, there's this thing called human nature.
00:44:01.460 Human nature.
00:44:04.680 Yeah, but let's keep it rolling.
00:44:06.500 However, this is not surprising because contributors to anti-hate seem to believe that being racist against white people is not even possible.
00:44:14.300 I have never and will never face racism, discrimination, that I'm a, you know, middle class, middle age, white guy.
00:44:23.760 Whether you're a middle age white guy like me, who's never experienced racism and never will.
00:44:31.460 White guy like me, who's never experienced racism and never will. 0.90
00:44:35.200 The Caucasian man must be killed with the sword. 0.56
00:44:39.020 Because white people, bro, they bad as fuck, bro. 0.82
00:44:41.080 They beat up every white person.
00:44:42.940 We focus on the far right.
00:44:50.380 Middle-aged white guy like me, who's never experienced racism and never will.
00:45:02.540 This is probably why they promote controversial figures such as Toronto BLM co-founder Yusra Kogali.
00:45:09.140 Kogali is a self-proclaimed anti-racist who has posted on social media about white people being
00:45:14.860 quote, inherently subhuman, as well as asking Allah to quote, help her not kill white people.
00:45:21.340 After this controversy, instead of apologizing for her comments, Kogali claimed critics were
00:45:26.340 vilifying her for telling the truth about racism. Ever since Kogali has said these hateful things
00:45:31.500 about killing white people, anti-hate still chooses to promote Kogali, where she states that
00:45:36.480 anti-racist funding should be allocated to
00:45:39.060 she says she wants to kill white people and anti-hate still wants to work with her
00:45:48.800 isn't that crazy isn't that not crazy they're against hate but oh you you say you want to kill
00:45:56.420 white people oh you can still work for us that oh that no that hate we're anti-hate but like
00:46:00.240 hating white people is okay it's complicated but uh i know they said yeah you know
00:46:06.320 Allah help me not kill white people, but, but we really like your chops. 0.55
00:46:09.900 You know, you're fine with us. You're fine with us. You're we're against hate, 0.99
00:46:13.760 but hating white people is a okay. Isn't that great? 1.00
00:46:18.000 Isn't that sound like it's a really great organization.
00:46:19.620 That's totally against hate.
00:46:27.740 She states that anti-racist funding should be allocated to groups whom she
00:46:32.460 personally sees fit.
00:46:33.680 how can anti-hate claim to be against hate when they promote people who say things like this and
00:46:38.800 even ignore violence and vandalism motivated by anti-white hatred the emerging pattern is clear
00:46:44.800 the canadian anti-hate network will encourage and or ignore hate against canadian citizens
00:46:50.400 who disagree or don't subscribe to the radical ideas of critical race theory also just just like
00:46:56.080 white people i'm probably gonna just said white people there uh they the emerging pattern is
00:47:02.800 clear the canadian anti-hate network will encourage and or ignore hate against canada against white
00:47:09.280 canadians indian citizens who disagree or don't subscribe to the radical ideas of critical race
00:47:15.120 theory imagine being put on house arrest for opposing the conclusions of critical race theory
00:47:25.040 this would be our reality in canada if bill c63 passes it's already happening in the uk
00:47:31.760 violent criminals who commit rape are being let out on bail and given a slap on the wrist
00:47:37.940 while people who complain about these horrific acts on the internet get sent to jail we can't
00:47:43.940 it's actually so sickening how often this happens like like if you look on twitter there's there's
00:47:50.880 so many examples of you know horrific violence the r word rape is that gonna get bad i don't know
00:47:59.620 it's too late i said it um but yeah all of that happens and the charge for talking about it is
00:48:09.280 worse than the actual horrific act and the thing is is like this is this is our moment as as you
00:48:16.500 know people who want to stop this from happening in canada we can see the uk we can see it happening
00:48:22.760 we can see it happening and we can stop it but what we have to do is we need to put the pressure
00:48:30.640 on the conservative party as much as possible and yeah like we we need to do something about this
00:48:39.380 we need to do something we need to be organized we need to create our strong messaging and uh
00:48:46.020 that's what we're trying to do with uh with safe free speech.ca given a slap on the wrist
00:48:50.740 while people who complain about these horrific acts on the internet get sent to jail we can
00:48:56.700 stop this from happening go to safefreespeech.ca to learn more about bill c63 the online harms act
00:49:04.180 and how you can help us stop it let's go let's go um yeah once again go to safefreespeech.ca
00:49:19.180 or if you want to support the upcoming documentary
00:49:21.240 givesango.com slash save free speech
00:49:23.700 very exciting
00:49:26.000 very exciting stuff
00:49:27.300 nice we got another donation from Richard P
00:49:32.000 thank you so much
00:49:32.940 thank you so much Richard P
00:49:34.640 yeah how are we feeling
00:49:37.840 how are we feeling right now
00:49:39.280 vibing or what
00:49:40.200 next thing I'm going to do is
00:49:43.580 react to
00:49:46.220 Arif Varani
00:49:47.960 do a little bit of the homework
00:49:49.980 of hearing out the best
00:49:52.460 arguments
00:49:53.160 for Bill C-63
00:49:55.580 right
00:49:56.500 they're not very good ones
00:49:59.640 but
00:50:00.640 they still make the conservative
00:50:03.860 party cower
00:50:05.420 they make lawyers cower
00:50:08.000 the main argument
00:50:10.100 is what they use
00:50:12.200 in the UK
00:50:12.700 which is that it's going to protect kids
00:50:16.140 online
00:50:16.940 protect kids online
00:50:19.560 but
00:50:20.700 conservative party
00:50:24.400 do you really think there is a political solution
00:50:26.380 so you know
00:50:27.920 people like to
00:50:29.580 that's Mark Burford
00:50:31.380 thanks for the comment
00:50:32.320 so yes and no
00:50:34.520 there is not a solution in the major political parties
00:50:38.080 not really
00:50:39.820 no there's not a solution in the major political parties
00:50:42.840 but that doesn't mean that there is no political solution
00:50:46.260 um to kind of to be more specific like people are seeing what's happening in the uk
00:50:52.600 and they're saying okay well we just need to be prepared for street violence or we need to be
00:50:58.660 prepared to uh you know defend ourselves when when all this inevitably happens i mean
00:51:05.200 in a way that's not wrong in a way that you know that's that's already happening and
00:51:12.420 unfortunately there is this
00:51:14.360 horrible obvious
00:51:16.800 and vile sort of bias against
00:51:18.840 white people where if
00:51:20.900 you're non-white you can probably get 0.93
00:51:22.840 away with beating up white 0.99
00:51:24.800 people and getting away with it there's already instances 0.88
00:51:26.680 of this like you know in America and the UK
00:51:28.640 however you know
00:51:30.760 it's also
00:51:32.800 if you think that
00:51:34.440 just dealing with street violence is the
00:51:36.840 only solution
00:51:38.160 then we've already lost
00:51:40.820 everything and i don't i don't accept that i don't agree with that i don't think that's the
00:51:47.940 case that we've completely lost everything um and that what's happening in the uk is like what we
00:51:56.640 need to try and avoid and use our organization skills to collectivize in a certain way to
00:52:03.940 stop that from happening here and politics is the organization of people and power to trying
00:52:13.500 you know to to get to your to get to your means means to an end and uh just because the major
00:52:20.680 political parties are useless doesn't mean that there's nothing we can do about it and
00:52:26.660 you know obviously there's a lot of elements to the rubik's cube but like step one is
00:52:33.080 don't be demoralized a lot of people are just demoralized in one direction or another
00:52:37.960 they say i can't do anything about it i'm going to sit on the couch
00:52:41.240 i'm terrified i'm going to go run off into the woods i'm going to i don't know like it's
00:52:47.060 there's nothing we can do and that is a very fearful place to be i've been there
00:52:53.000 and uh that doesn't look at the long-term sort of solutions that we could could be cooking up
00:52:59.940 and developing and yeah I mean it's not going to be simple but like step one is don't be
00:53:08.660 demoralized because if we're demoralized we're caught up in fear we're caught up in like you
00:53:12.760 know our heads spinning and we really can't even make any sort of like good decision that's going
00:53:19.200 to sustain us into the future, right?
00:53:25.180 So what I'm focused on is creating momentum
00:53:30.620 in a certain direction, knocking on the same door
00:53:32.660 over and over again, stop, save free speech,
00:53:34.960 save free speech, stop the specific bill,
00:53:37.020 stop the specific bill.
00:53:39.420 And there are other ways to apply pressure
00:53:43.580 on the Ottawa bubble.
00:53:45.340 There are other ways to apply pressure
00:53:47.540 on the ottawa bubble but it doesn't happen overnight you know it does not happen overnight
00:53:52.420 it doesn't just happen all of a sudden and then oh all of a sudden like we got our freedoms back
00:53:56.800 you know and i do like to use the trucker convoy as an example people like to say oh the trucker
00:54:01.860 convoy proves that like there is no hope and it's like well they were actually able to change
00:54:07.080 uh the the mandates that started to change after the convoy not before the convoy it's when the
00:54:13.760 it's when that uh public pressure was applied to the ottawa bubble from outside the ottawa bubble
00:54:19.240 as far as bc that's when things started to turn around and of course that situation could have
00:54:26.660 probably could have been better maybe could have been worse too but um the point is is that it is
00:54:31.460 possible it is possible and you know you can make the argument of like oh wasn't wasn't that whole
00:54:37.620 operation cooked wasn't wasn't it uh wasn't it part of a psyop wasn't there uh you know political
00:54:42.320 people inserted in in there to make the convoy not as effective i think there's actually merit
00:54:47.380 to some of those theories but it's besides the fact because there was a positive outcome
00:54:53.400 for people there was a positive outcome for uh the country in terms of rules being taken away
00:55:00.560 so it's not yeah it's not i just feel like there's like what do we have going on in canada we have
00:55:11.260 the freedom fighters we have the we have the conservative party we have the ppc we have
00:55:17.120 diagonal on but like you look at rebel news you look at true north and you know a lot of these
00:55:23.780 other popular shills on the internet and they're all just backing the conservative party and they're
00:55:29.460 not critical of the conservative party so they're they're insulating they're insulating the ottawa
00:55:34.620 bubble from criticism they're insulating pierre polyeth from criticism because they're like we
00:55:39.200 just got to win and then he's going to solve all solve all of our problems which is nonsense but
00:55:43.860 you know there's so much room there's so much room for something to be there there's an appetite for
00:55:51.200 it and there's a lot of upset people and it's just a matter of tapping into that and getting
00:56:00.460 everybody marching in the same direction you know because my response to someone who says there is
00:56:07.400 no political solution it's like well what's what's the best like what's the best attempt
00:56:11.300 someone has made so far because you're right like i said the political parties are cooked they're a
00:56:17.380 bust obviously supporting the the major political parties isn't viable in terms of actually making
00:56:22.000 change but what sort of organization long-term organization that's been built built up and
00:56:28.680 cultivated like that's you know has there been many solid attempts at that
00:56:34.080 you could you could even use something like billboard chris as an example
00:56:39.860 you know something i don't i don't agree with billboard chris on everything but he has he is
00:56:45.820 a individual activist who now has like what over a quarter million uh twitter followers just by
00:56:52.700 focusing on one topic and repeating that over and over and over again and uh you know i guess i use
00:56:59.620 that as an example because people are so hopeless right they're like oh no nothing can work but
00:57:03.800 I think in a crucial part of someone like Billboard Chris's sort of like rise to popularity is nobody knew him for a long time.
00:57:13.400 People thought he was nuts for a long time.
00:57:16.000 It took a long time for him to continue to knock on that door over and over and over again until, oh, now he has a whole bunch of clout.
00:57:22.980 And now he's actually like, you know, making an impact and, you know, helping change policy.
00:57:28.980 it says like and this is why fighting the demoralization is so important because
00:57:35.780 when you're demoralized you're fearful and you're not looking at any sort of long-term
00:57:41.780 solution you don't think you think oh my god i just need to be ready for violence in the streets
00:57:46.040 or or you know escaping the cities and to be fair you know trust me i'm not saying that being
00:57:52.260 prepared for uh you know street violence is a bad thing i'm not saying that going off leaving the
00:57:58.120 cities is a bad thing. However, that is assuming we've already lost everything, right? There can
00:58:07.660 be political solutions that aren't the conservative party. There can be political solutions that are
00:58:14.020 effective. And that's what we're, that's what we're building at savefreespeech.ca. It's going
00:58:21.080 to be a political solution, at least something that, that puts pressure on the Ottawa bubble.
00:58:28.980 That's the goal.
00:58:29.780 That's the plan.
00:58:31.780 And yeah, I mean, it's, we have to, we have to try something.
00:58:39.020 We have to try something.
00:58:40.120 I think the appetite is there.
00:58:41.580 And like I said before, if it's, it's political parties, the major political parties are cooked.
00:58:49.300 There is no solution there yet.
00:58:51.260 So much of the energy of concerned Canadians is behind these major political parties for some reason.
00:58:56.480 And if we could just crack that code of creating something else that has like a serious sort of, you know, political sort of like energy that is that has momentum or has sort of this this power that speaks to the public or puts pressure on the on the Ottawa bubble.
00:59:17.200 If that gets created and that that can be effective, that can be just like the convoy was.
00:59:24.340 Of course, you know, that was more organic.
00:59:27.200 So this, say, free speech is going to take a lot of time to build.
00:59:32.740 Thomas and Catherine Dinald say,
00:59:34.580 Uncle Hack needs to say the F word on Saturday.
00:59:37.600 Lol.
00:59:40.580 I think we all need to say the F word here and there.
00:59:45.800 Pastor Archer Pawlowski did try.
00:59:48.260 What has he been up to?
00:59:51.380 What has he been up to?
00:59:53.040 I would like to know.
00:59:54.340 uh is what's your name iwa iwa yeah no i i want to get back in touch with him and other
01:00:00.640 dissidents because uh you know i think we can all agree on this uh say free speech issue
01:00:06.460 and uh yeah there's a lot
01:00:10.980 there's there's a lot there's a lot that we can we can do when i think when we
01:00:16.820 have a plan have a good solid plan uh to get stuff done all right it's 9 40 okay i've only
01:00:25.820 been streaming for like an hour or something it's felt a lot longer it's good it's good to
01:00:30.900 be streaming though it's been a while so yeah we gotta have hope guys gotta have hope gotta have
01:00:40.360 hope here um and it's gonna be work it's gonna be boring it's gonna be annoying speaking of which
01:00:46.560 i'll get into uh i mean it should be fun it should be fun reacting to this
01:00:54.000 let me open it up here let's get into it let's get into bill c63 guys let's get into bill c63
01:01:03.640 rob primo in chat what's up greg rob primo says greg you're my favorite black guy hey
01:01:12.200 thanks rob yeah it's true it's true uh yeah i get that a lot actually i get that a lot um
01:01:24.080 i am a lot of people's favorite black guy uh no but speaking of black guys i'm going to be
01:01:31.780 talking about critical race theory uh later at the end of the stream there's a little jingle
01:01:37.180 that I wrote years ago
01:01:38.740 that I think I'm going to try
01:01:41.400 to make it into a short
01:01:42.380 or a quick little comedy video.
01:01:44.700 But I might write more lyrics
01:01:46.540 tonight on it.
01:01:47.520 I'll kind of give a quick rendition
01:01:48.800 probably of it.
01:01:49.600 Give you guys a little taste
01:01:50.580 of some comedy content
01:01:54.320 that I'll hopefully be
01:01:55.580 have the time to produce.
01:01:58.200 But and that's another thing
01:01:59.460 with this say free speech issue.
01:02:02.540 Like I want to
01:02:05.260 part of the reason
01:02:06.300 why i really want to stop this bill is like i want to i want comedy to stay alive i want political
01:02:11.200 commentary and real journalism to stay alive you think that's going to stay alive after this bill
01:02:15.200 is passed no like it's going to be it's going to be dead in the water all of it's going to be dead 0.85
01:02:20.740 in the water and then all we're going to have are cbc comedians in canada what a fucking nightmare
01:02:28.380 that would be just cbc canadians sorry just cbc well just the opinion of cbc canadians 0.71
01:02:35.920 allowed um and then just cbc comedians that sounds like a nightmare that sounds like a like a horror
01:02:45.420 show all right this is our buddy this is our pal we all know him arif verani arif verani um
01:02:58.160 i actually ran against arif irani in 2019 as a uh as a ppc candidate and uh i gotta say credit
01:03:09.280 where credit's due guys he's a good politician you know that might be weird for me to say but
01:03:15.460 like he's really good he's actually really compelling he's a good speaker you know i'm not
01:03:20.140 i'm not here to like you know say oh i love the liberal party but you know i i've really taken
01:03:25.200 the cynicism pill of politics and it's like you need to recognize that it is a sport and that the
01:03:31.320 liberals are really good at this sport okay sure it's a blood sport all that but you know i wish
01:03:37.320 because the last time this was uh maybe i should bring this up actually let's see if i can bring
01:03:41.720 this up real quick um the last time they tried to pass this bill it was called bill c36 uh
01:03:53.160 and the minister who tried to pass it come on is it here
01:04:02.540 come on come on come on come on
01:04:06.380 okay this is a pretty good clip i think let's just bring this up
01:04:14.680 sam hanks wines are best i am seriously considering getting youtube premium so i
01:04:19.620 don't have to watch ads anymore anyone else anyway whoa mark burford with 50 dollars thank you so
01:04:27.680 much sir thank you so much for the uh thank you so much for the donation i really appreciate that
01:04:33.940 shout big big oh sevens in chat to mark burford really appreciate the donation that's awesome
01:04:41.320 oh we got ed tafford also becoming a plaid patriot amazing thank you so much
01:04:49.120 if you do want to help save free speech in Canada
01:04:52.660 just want to plug this again
01:04:54.460 we are making a documentary
01:04:55.900 go to gives and go.com
01:04:58.160 slash save free speech
01:04:59.480 and yeah
01:05:02.320 we're going to be making content exposing
01:05:04.240 what this bill is actually about
01:05:05.940 which is political suppression
01:05:08.020 and
01:05:09.640 censorship
01:05:11.480 and tyrants really it's a tyrannical
01:05:13.880 tyrannical bill
01:05:14.920 but I was just talking about how a reef
01:05:17.900 verani is actually a uh a good politician like he's he's he's one to be feared and respected 1.00
01:05:26.340 because not respected but respected in terms of like how he could do damage because we had
01:05:32.620 remember this guy remember this guy like uh stephen gilbeau listen to this guy in the popular
01:05:40.440 lexicon there are two sides to the recommendations first of all what's going on like this guy looks
01:05:47.300 like a criminal this guy looks like a crook this guy looks like a crooked liberal like gangster
01:05:53.980 like it looks like he looks like a hitman there seems to be widespread acceptance that companies
01:06:00.160 like netflix or facebook should start paying gst slash hst but the panel wants to force them as
01:06:07.020 part of their licensing rules to pay part their name no no not at all i mean as far as the gst or
01:06:14.680 HST, depending on where you are in the country, is concerned. It's about fairness. I mean,
01:06:19.280 companies are paying GST in Canada, and there's no reason that some of the wealthiest companies
01:06:24.440 in the world who are operating on Canadian soil shouldn't pay for it. In terms of asking them to
01:06:30.600 do their fair share to contribute to Canadian cultural content, I mean, you were talking
01:06:36.040 about Netflix. Well, last year, Netflix spent around a billion. I mean, the point is, this guy
01:06:40.580 is he sounds sketchy he looks
01:06:42.540 sketchy he's not very compelling
01:06:44.340 he's not
01:06:45.820 did this bill get defeated or
01:06:47.920 was this bill C11 that
01:06:50.300 eventually passed anyway the point
01:06:52.480 is like when
01:06:53.420 this is not a good
01:06:56.220 politician because he doesn't come
01:06:58.460 across well he looks
01:07:00.320 sketchy and I think
01:07:01.880 maybe if you want to go like you know conspiracy
01:07:04.200 minded like psyop minded it's like
01:07:06.360 we've become conditioned to like
01:07:08.140 crooks like this who are like so
01:07:10.440 untrustworthy not good looking uh stammering and you know canadians have accepted this like oh we
01:07:17.800 have these like stammering crooks as uh as our public servants but then they have someone like
01:07:23.300 verani show up and he actually like sounds like a good politician so now the public is like oh well
01:07:29.820 this guy actually makes sense and oh this is actually a good thing and oh we're protecting
01:07:32.800 kids like that's you know not a good place to be not a good place to be but anyway we're going to
01:07:38.820 react to this this is justice minister arif arani outlines new bill to combat online harms this is
01:07:45.980 from february of this year 2024 i remember i was like super demoralized when i first saw this
01:07:51.720 but we're going to react we're going to talk about the and we're going to actually write down some
01:07:55.840 notes as well of um you know we want to steal man instead of straw manning we want to steal man
01:08:05.420 the best possible arguments for bill c63 and uh we're gonna get into it now hello bonjour quay
01:08:15.740 quay acknowledge that i'm speaking to you today from the traditional territory that is unseated
01:08:20.140 of the algonquin anishinabeg nation i want to thank you very much for being here this evening
01:08:25.900 you will see that there is a of course it starts with the land acknowledgement
01:08:29.420 A large group gathered here with me.
01:08:32.300 There are cabinet and caucus colleagues
01:08:33.980 and also some faces that may not be familiar
01:08:36.580 to many of the reporters here in the room
01:08:38.720 or the people that are watching on television.
01:08:41.760 I wanted to acknowledge each of them
01:08:42.920 because it is important.
01:08:44.540 Leanne MacDonald is here from the Canadian Centre for Child Protection.
01:08:47.200 Mohamed Hashim is here from the Canadian Race Relations Foundation.
01:08:49.480 Richard Marceau is here from the Centre for Israel and Jewish Affairs.
01:08:52.340 Rizvan Mohamed is here from the National Council of Canadian Muslims.
01:08:55.120 You're going to hear from the two brave women who are...
01:08:56.920 yeah anyway beside me jane and carla they're all here because they understand the importance of
01:09:06.100 the legislation the online harms act bill c63 that i just introduced today at first reading
01:09:10.900 in the house of commons thank you all for being here basically we're going to do a victim parade
01:09:16.300 these people are victims they're horrible victims uh mean things have happened um so
01:09:22.100 we need to stop that by taking control over the internet you know uh i made a video about this
01:09:29.260 like years ago when they were trying to pass bill c36 and what the canadian race relations
01:09:35.480 foundation basically does is that they create like victim porn um maybe i should bring it up
01:09:41.280 real quick because it is they honestly they've decided though not to make this like the main
01:09:48.080 schtick canadian race relations foundation uh because i think that it doesn't it's not
01:09:57.400 it's not that good i don't think like the stuff they make is not that oh they changed the logo
01:10:02.160 they changed the logo um
01:10:08.660 oh my god let's see what this is about this looks interesting she's crying it's got trucker convoy
01:10:17.740 stuff i haven't even seen this yet so this is from the canadian race relations foundation and
01:10:22.640 yeah essentially it's like it's victim porn it's gonna be like hey like they they cyber bullied me
01:10:27.880 and it like ruined my life uh that's more or less the stuff they make let's see what it's like
01:10:32.600 content warning this video contains references to gender-based and racist violence such as but
01:10:39.400 not limited to references to sexual assault physical assault slurs and online hate it's
01:10:45.460 interesting how they just connected violence with online hate that's that's going to be a popular
01:10:51.420 theme as well when people ask you how you are or how you're doing and i just you know i'm like i'm
01:10:56.500 fine but um definitely you know where's the new thing i don't want to like be someone who totally
01:11:09.500 lack sympathy but that's kind of how i felt when i was unvaccinated in 2021 22 when i couldn't even
01:11:16.700 go anywhere it's like you know people ask how you're doing and you say you're fine and it's
01:11:20.460 like you can't even go into a restaurant your family is like disowning you for not being
01:11:25.160 vaccinated for making your own personal choices um once again the double standard right like only
01:11:30.580 certain victim narratives are are like valid and then the rest is just shit uh but yeah let's
01:11:36.660 continue. My name is Linda Huang and I am a social media strategist and blogger and also the
01:11:45.480 co-founder of Stop Race Based Hate. They basically told me if I didn't stop talking about the freedom
01:11:52.160 convoy then they would remove my fingers so that I wouldn't be... Keep posting false information
01:12:02.360 about the trucking convoy and you won't have fingers to spread your opinion you opened your
01:12:07.000 mouth wide now it's time to get shut um this is what they do this is like the best argument to
01:12:14.940 be able to censor the internet is just take find the most vile comments you can and be like this
01:12:22.060 is why we need to control the internet and it's just a fundamental um it's like a very i hate to 0.70
01:12:29.880 the b-word but like it's a really boomer understanding of how the internet works
01:12:33.080 like if you're anyone who is like under the age of 35 or like maybe even 40 uh you probably have
01:12:41.360 a better understanding of the internet and how it's like there's all types of stuff out there
01:12:45.400 you can find all types of stuff on the internet vile stuff whole wholesome stuff but uh yeah
01:12:51.080 obviously people are are hateful on the internet that's just like what happens that's just like
01:12:56.400 part of the whole thing of shit posting on the internet and getting your getting getting your
01:13:02.460 frustration out on the internet um and by the way there is a lot of false information about 0.86
01:13:06.920 the trucker convoy that's real um dumb chinese that is a crazy uh that's a crazy that's a crazy
01:13:16.220 email subject i don't know if i would have went with that uh and i obviously i disavow like the 0.92
01:13:21.160 encouraging violence anyway let's continue be able to write about it or post about it
01:13:26.400 again i don't want i don't want to i don't want to be this guy but is this the whole story
01:13:40.380 you got an email of someone you know threatening you sure and and like now you're now you're
01:13:46.300 breaking down in tears oh my god like this i'm like you know i'm i'm trying to be as kind as
01:13:53.140 possible but you got you know toughen up toughen up it's the person is just frustrated they sent
01:14:02.680 you an angry email um it's not the end of the world and there i go as far as saying that this
01:14:11.420 person is probably kind of like mentally ill a little sort of you know if you're if you're 0.50
01:14:16.640 receiving an email of someone being mad at you and you start crying about it that's that's wild 0.68
01:14:22.760 that's wild to me that's a very no offense but that's a you have a very brittle spirit
01:14:27.280 you have a very brittle spirit if you're getting an email of someone who disagrees with you
01:14:31.040 and saying something very inflammatory sure but then you're going to cry about that
01:14:35.480 damn and and again this is the people that they find the canadian race relations find
01:14:41.800 to pull at the heartstrings and be like oh my god this is oh she got a shitty email
01:14:46.860 we gotta control the internet now
01:14:48.980 stop these haters
01:14:49.840 meanwhile on CBC
01:14:52.200 let's talk about our colonizing
01:14:55.140 history and why
01:14:56.920 if you're white you should hate yourself 0.55
01:14:58.340 that type of
01:14:59.800 hatred is
01:15:02.920 mainstream but anytime
01:15:04.920 criticisms for any other race of any other
01:15:07.100 person that's non-white it's
01:15:08.760 the worst it's the devil and 1.00
01:15:10.960 we gotta stop it
01:15:12.100 oh boy 0.99
01:15:16.680 oh boy did you oh boy oh that's so awful you're an absolute idiot choke on a bowl of bad flavored 0.89
01:15:25.900 okay okay why did they open with like the absolute banger email though 0.87
01:15:38.900 yo shout outs john smith at gmail that's that's that's funny
01:15:44.980 i'm sorry i'm sorry bat flavored foe like it's referencing the bat soup thing for
01:15:52.580 covid era like that's fire i'm sorry like i'm not hey hey that's that could play well 0.90
01:15:59.260 to the right audience that would play really well you're an absolute idiot choke on a bowl of 0.88
01:16:04.080 bat flavored foe that's funny um sorry you know call me call me racist if you want but that's got 0.94
01:16:10.640 uh that made me laugh am i a bad person i don't know uh oh but they were saying violence to choke
01:16:18.840 on soup yeah it's saying choke on soup it's it's the end of the world it's the end of the world
01:16:22.800 and once again for context justin trudeau was on tv saying do we tolerate these people
01:16:29.520 do we tolerate these people that was fine no that was totally fine you know dehumanizing all
01:16:35.960 those people unvaccinated no that's totally fine but telling someone to choke on bat soup is it's 0.93
01:16:40.280 like the end of the world oh my god like who writes these things there's like a sense of like
01:16:47.200 maliciousness that's underneath there that actually needs to be taken very serious i was
01:16:53.180 basically calling them out on racism and i was asking others to do the same and from that i 0.71
01:16:59.060 think was like the worst few weeks of my life i blocked again i'm sorry is this woman mentally 0.86
01:17:07.340 ill though like internet comments in reading internet comments is the worst week of your life 0.85
01:17:14.820 pardon reading internet comments is the worst week of your life
01:17:20.880 and we're supposed to have sympathy for for this this is why
01:17:26.300 i'm trying to have compassion i'm trying to have sympathy i'm trying to be empathetic here
01:17:37.340 reading internet comments was the worst week of your life.
01:17:41.260 You have no,
01:17:42.060 like just like any,
01:17:45.360 especially right wing content creator.
01:17:47.160 Like you can't help,
01:17:48.260 but like laugh your head off at this.
01:17:50.720 It was the worst week of my life.
01:17:52.380 That's every week of my life.
01:17:54.400 People,
01:17:54.860 people shitting on me,
01:17:56.480 telling me to kill myself.
01:17:58.820 Um,
01:17:59.680 maybe not so much me,
01:18:00.940 but I'm sure someone like Jeremy McKenzie gets told like,
01:18:03.400 you know,
01:18:03.600 threats and all stuff like every day.
01:18:05.020 I'm sure that happens all the time.
01:18:07.340 Um, but of course for this Asian woman who's fighting racism, it's the worst week of my
01:18:13.220 life. 0.96
01:18:13.540 And the thing is, this is kind of their economy.
01:18:15.700 This feeds into their economy, their victimhood, their, their feeling bad about it feeds into,
01:18:22.620 you know, probably their industry and literally helps them make money because like it's the
01:18:28.160 feelings economy, right?
01:18:29.200 It's the feelings economy.
01:18:30.860 And, uh, the more, the more they emphasize how hated they feel and how bad they feel,
01:18:36.300 the more it becomes it's like this self-fulfilling prophecy it becomes this uh this uh what do you
01:18:42.020 call it like they commodify their victimhood and then they're able to sell it thousands of people
01:18:49.880 when people tell from a marginalized group tell you this is something that's happening believe 0.98
01:18:55.040 them dumb chinese yeah that one that one's scarier you know uh that's good come on guys 0.68
01:19:03.900 hey be serious there's a lot of scary misogyny violence they're saying all these things all this 1.00
01:19:12.640 scary misogyny violence it's an internet comment once again you know it's like
01:19:23.000 that's the most scary misogynistic thing you're gonna see in canada aside from you know muslim
01:19:30.800 immigrants who just got off the boat the most scary misogynistic thing you're going to see is
01:19:35.360 an internet comment i think canada's doing pretty good you know that and that's that's the thing
01:19:40.780 that's so crazy about stopping hate in canada and all this nonsense the whole meme of canadians
01:19:47.700 being nice is real like that's a real meme they're like you know canadians are very respectful and
01:19:53.460 tolerant that's a real thing yet it's like oh we need to stop the right we are the least racist
01:19:58.920 country we're probably easily the least racist country and i know that i'm like going against
01:20:04.000 my own logic here of like you know validating the liberal morality here but it's like
01:20:07.840 it's just so infuriating that uh that like canadians are buying into this idea that like
01:20:15.620 oh my god we're so horrible it's like guys we're easily the best when it comes to this in terms of
01:20:21.420 being super tolerant and stuff to the point where it's actually a problem we actually need to stop
01:20:25.720 being uh so so tolerant all the time um but again the only reason the only place they can actually
01:20:31.380 find this racist misogyny is on internet comments nothing real nothing it's racist things all this
01:20:39.000 very dangerous uh harassing things because they think that's anonymous erasing thing harassing
01:20:46.320 things dangerous things it's internet comments again so this is do i even i'll finish it out i
01:20:52.420 guess but this is like this is what the canadian race relations foundation does and there's other
01:20:58.140 groups like it but again they try to distill victimhood and distill like online hate and
01:21:02.940 make it seem like the worst possible thing but this is a good this is a good visual representation
01:21:07.220 of what it is it's um it's uh reading a computer it's reading comments on a screen
01:21:14.540 does she look in danger to you does this look dangerous
01:21:18.080 i don't think so but if they're no longer anonymous okay okay that's fire 0.67
01:21:26.700 so jennifer francis said at least she can leave the house here
01:21:30.660 that's funny she made it to this photo she made it to the shoot you know so there you go 0.79
01:21:41.540 you know this her her assuming presumably muslim husband believes in equality so that's that's good 0.70
01:21:49.080 back home she wasn't permitted to drive says thomas gordon see this is the thing right 0.98
01:21:55.040 you know compared to other countries where a lot of these immigrants are coming from and it's like
01:21:59.980 let's talk about the racism or the sexism there like and like i don't care but it's like we're
01:22:06.320 having this conversation but they never want to make they never this care this comparison is never
01:22:11.320 made of course it's it's uh again they have a political agenda so they they omit things they're
01:22:16.780 just trying to again distill this victimhood and uh push their nonsense to try and take away our
01:22:23.140 freedom of speech cool and i think people would think twice there are people out there who um
01:22:30.600 who unfortunately are very hateful and and could actually you know and hurt people because of
01:22:38.560 what they look like or or you know how they talk and that's not okay
01:22:46.400 okay what about when the uh the truckers got beaten up
01:22:50.280 what about that remember when the truckers got beaten up for saying hey i don't want to take
01:22:56.040 what about what you believe in what about being beaten up for what you believe in
01:23:00.220 persecuted for what you believe in which is i don't believe i need to take this uh injection
01:23:04.900 getting beaten up for that is a okay right oh but all those people were racist according to you
01:23:10.460 i can understand why someone come called you a a dumb chinese bitch i'm not i'm not hey i'm not
01:23:18.660 saying that i would say that but i could i i that's the empathy i'm finding the empathy i i can
01:23:23.200 I can empathize with why someone would would call you that and once again this is a great
01:23:31.180 representation of of anti-hate.ca and how they emphasize all of this victimhood narrative all
01:23:37.320 of this horrible stuff you know internet comments but when you know people who oppose the mandates
01:23:44.320 were dehumanized persecuted bank accounts frozen beaten up by police in some cases attacked by 0.68
01:23:51.540 antifa members not no one fucking cares about that part that stuff doesn't matter and that's
01:23:59.280 all real violence or at least like real consequences of persecution bank accounts
01:24:03.800 frozen like those are real consequences where is our interview with with the nice gentle piano in
01:24:08.600 the background we don't got one well except for some of the documentaries that have been made but
01:24:13.380 i i will say though in terms of like the political game because i've been talking about like how the
01:24:18.720 politics like we need you know there is no political solution part of the political solution
01:24:23.220 is going to be making our own sort of pieces like this of telling the story of persecuted
01:24:30.540 Canadians we kind of need to fight fire with fire because Canadians do respond to the gentle
01:24:34.980 piano music in the background because we're only human anyway moving on okay
01:24:38.420 hashtag block hate to make online spaces safer for everyone so the reason why this this is so
01:24:48.500 funny um this is actually great this is great we're actually going to screenshot this for later
01:24:55.140 actually i'll just get the link this this is why we're doing this guys this is why we're doing
01:25:01.860 this this is a good this is a good talking point this is a great talking point um okay
01:25:08.980 okay
01:25:12.980 she's gonna take a screenshot what's funny about this is uh block hate what's funny about block 0.51
01:25:23.460 hate is it speaks to what this woman could do to solve her problem which is oh this did some uh 1.00
01:25:30.680 hateful asshole send a hateful message just block them just block them hit the block button 1.00
01:25:36.580 just block hit the block button that's all you have to do just don't read their tweets 0.80
01:25:42.240 just don't read their email oh my god oh wait so just so just block them just block them
01:25:55.140 so just like don't like don't continue reading the the annoying person that's bothering me and
01:26:02.340 making me feel shitty just stop reading what they're saying oh wow imagine that imagine
01:26:12.940 that and i mean it is funny that because that really is kind of what this person's problem was
01:26:19.400 it's like imagine imagine going online and reading every hateful comment about yourself
01:26:25.080 and getting scared about it that was i wouldn't want to do that
01:26:28.880 do you know how much hate i got on tiktok when i like made fun of trans people
01:26:34.240 that like that was when my first uh my first account got deleted but like it was getting
01:26:39.100 shared everywhere and like all these people shitting on me hating on me imagine i took 0.71
01:26:43.340 the time to read every single comment what the fuck would be wrong with me i would be mentally 0.64
01:26:48.140 i would have a weird masochistic like fetish if i were to go online and read every hateful comment 0.89
01:26:53.700 that I got from some crazy liberal progressive trans gay person that would be insane 1.00
01:27:00.560 that would be insane to do that but this woman is like I read every email and it's horrible 0.98
01:27:06.640 and they're after me and blah blah blah oh my god just ignore it block it just block the person 0.52
01:27:13.700 and move on this isn't hard this isn't hard edgyd tv says I can't handle opinions that are different
01:27:21.520 than my mine own mine though yeah yeah pretty much um yeah so that basically covers uh
01:27:30.700 canadian race relations foundation they try to distill and uh distill hatred or distill sorry
01:27:38.820 victimhood and like use that as a talking point for why we need to take away your freedom of 0.59
01:27:43.220 speech but uh we got a lot to get through so let's keep it rolling here again we're back to
01:27:48.760 arif varani outlining bill c63 this is back from february but he's going to give the best argument
01:27:54.920 for why uh we need this bill and he mentioned canadian race relations foundation and uh and
01:28:02.060 that content is supposed to you know justify taking away our freedom of speech so all of us
01:28:09.580 expect to be safe in our homes in our neighborhoods and in our communities we should be able to expect
01:28:14.160 the same kind of safety in our online communities that's a very interesting statement
01:28:19.960 and and it's very reflective of sort of the absurdity of this bill to be safe in our homes
01:28:29.960 line harms act bill c63 that i just introduced today at first reading in the house of commons
01:28:36.520 thank you all for being here all of us expect to be safe in our homes in our neighborhoods
01:28:44.440 and in our communities we should be able to expect the same kind of safety in our online
01:28:50.020 communities this guy's never been in the cod lobby before um what does safety online mean
01:28:59.220 the reason why this dichotomy is important safety in a public place in our communities
01:29:05.840 versus safety online is because they're like safety in a physical space has to do with crime
01:29:14.840 has to do with violence have to do with things that are already in the um you know criminal code
01:29:23.340 but safety online we need to be safe online too it's like okay well what does that mean what is
01:29:28.880 the danger online there's danger from i guess scammers there's danger from
01:29:34.720 again they're trying to make the argument that hateful comments is like dangerous
01:29:40.560 okay not the same as like a like being beaten up or being robbed in in our communities like
01:29:49.100 there's absolutely no comparison whatsoever and what they try to do with this online community
01:29:54.820 is they basically reduce it down to
01:29:56.960 kids, safety, sexual exploitation.
01:30:03.400 That's pretty well it, though.
01:30:06.960 But anyway, let's keep going.
01:30:08.160 We've got a lot to get through here.
01:30:08.980 We want all of our children to talk about the platforms.
01:30:14.960 We know the standards that I just mentioned.
01:30:18.000 For a robust online debate,
01:30:20.640 for those who want to engage.
01:30:22.340 F's in chat if you understand French
01:30:25.440 how much of the audience understands French
01:30:27.600 but we all know that our online world
01:30:33.320 falls well short of the basic standards that I just mentioned
01:30:37.160 yeah I totally disagree
01:30:41.480 with that this is a point I brought up earlier in the stream but like big tech
01:30:45.600 is so dialed in for censorship already
01:30:49.140 uh so yeah like this is just straight up lies this is just totally not true uh like it's yeah
01:30:56.860 it's it's such a crazy argument that the government makes to try and get more power it's like oh
01:31:01.360 these massive big tech platforms that are really well-oiled businesses that are way more
01:31:06.920 profitable and efficient than us they suck they're actually terrible at keeping anybody safe
01:31:13.020 but we the government totally dysfunction with a history of total dysfunctional dysfunctionality
01:31:20.060 no we're going to keep you safe online meta facebook and google don't know what they're
01:31:26.520 doing yeah a google product and a meta product has worked way better for me than anything that
01:31:33.940 the canadian government has cooked up in recent especially in recent years bad actors target our
01:31:39.320 most vulnerable, our children. They spread vile hate and encourage
01:31:44.780 impressionable people to commit violence. We know the harms we experience. That is
01:31:49.820 such a crazy sentence. Our children. They spread vile hate. They target our
01:31:57.200 children. They spread vile hate. And encourage impressionable people to
01:32:01.700 commit violence. Encourage impressionable people to commit violence.
01:32:09.320 it's such it's such a like it's such a like orgy of like different issues like into one sentence
01:32:14.560 words it's very word saladty uh it's like it's a good it's like a perfect like umbrella sentence
01:32:20.520 to be like yes then the kids and and and the hatred you don't like that and oh maybe terrorism
01:32:25.620 again you got you got to respect the game here okay this is this is rhetoric this is rhetoric
01:32:32.040 they worked very very hard on this and this is what we need to dismantle and take apart here
01:32:37.800 um because yeah we need to make like one of my goals is to make it absolutely laughable
01:32:45.060 to not realize this bills about uh government control tyranny and censorship that's the goal
01:32:53.100 anybody who doesn't think that they should be laughed at because it's clearly about that
01:32:56.720 we know the harms we experience online can have real world impacts with tragic sometimes fatal
01:33:06.560 consequences and yet so much of this goes unchecked i look i feel like that's not even not
01:33:13.780 even true um a lot of this goes unchecked like when the christ church shooting happened or like
01:33:20.620 whenever whenever there's like any sort of shooting that could be related to the right
01:33:24.340 wing they're constantly trying to associate it with with stuff that happened online
01:33:27.700 goes unchecked like like cnn will have has a heyday with all that type of stuff
01:33:33.920 of trying to you know that yeah that's just like another oh we've never talked about this before
01:33:39.800 yeah no you've been pushing this for years now explain what c63 will do to make our online world
01:33:44.720 safer but is important for canadians including the canadians watching right now to understand why
01:33:50.620 we are doing this i know why i'm here before you today i'm the father of two youngsters and like
01:33:57.220 parents and grandparents around canada i'm terrified by the dangers that lurk on the internet
01:34:02.980 for our children we have rigorous safety standards for things like my son's lego at home
01:34:08.640 it's somehow none for the most dangerous toy not just in my home but every canadian home
01:34:14.360 the screen that is in front of our children's faces so arif you have two kids you're worried
01:34:22.440 about what's online that's a valid thing again we're here to steel man their argument that's a
01:34:26.820 valid thing there is a lot of weird shit on the internet what i'm gonna give my kid the device
01:34:31.100 and they're like, you know, how am I supposed to feel confident
01:34:33.900 that they're not going to find some crazy stuff?
01:34:36.880 Here's the problem.
01:34:39.460 Arif, let's say they're, you know,
01:34:44.220 Arif is like, if Arif is just an independent dad,
01:34:47.860 not a government official,
01:34:49.220 and he wants to take care of his kids,
01:34:51.760 would he seriously suggest?
01:34:53.740 I think the government needs to babysit my children.
01:34:56.340 I think the government needs to babysit my kids on the internet.
01:35:01.840 Yeah, you know what?
01:35:03.560 As a dad, I really think that some Ottawa bureaucracy is needed to protect my kids on the internet.
01:35:10.740 It's fucking crazy.
01:35:13.040 It's crazy.
01:35:14.280 But again, he's doing a good job here.
01:35:16.120 He's using his parents.
01:35:17.080 He's hiding behind the kids.
01:35:18.760 He's hiding behind the kids.
01:35:20.560 Hey, my kids are at risk.
01:35:22.880 Don't you think we should censor the internet now?
01:35:24.680 but I do want to say
01:35:26.620 I'm going to actually write this down
01:35:28.260 because this is
01:35:30.560 a real sentiment
01:35:32.060 I'm afraid of what my kids
01:35:39.240 will find online
01:35:40.080 that's legit man
01:35:42.200 that is a legit point that they make
01:35:44.060 you know
01:35:45.500 part of why we're doing this is to again
01:35:48.340 really find the strong arguments that are going to resonate
01:35:51.220 with people
01:35:51.780 and i guess like the strongest counter argument to that is so the gov should babysit your children
01:36:00.040 they're gonna they're gonna babysit your children's uh on the internet yeah well i don't
01:36:09.720 want to do it let justin trudeau take care of my kid on the internet justin trudeau is going to
01:36:14.800 send you to makeup tutorials they're going to teach your kids how to be trans okay this is
01:36:21.740 another point we'll get to but we got a lot to go through so let's keep it rolling i'm also a muslim
01:36:26.700 the hatred that festers online is radicalizing people and that radicalization has real world
01:36:33.160 impacts this is this is such an interesting one like it's
01:36:39.260 it's not the things happening in reality you know it's not it's not like the organized 0.94
01:36:47.620 grooming gangs in the uk that are largely operated by muslims it's not like the real
01:36:54.200 rape no it's it's when it's again it's when white people talk about it on the internet that's a real
01:36:59.000 problem that's a real problem when people see real information and get upset about it or sorry
01:37:05.520 radicalized by it right um that's interesting that's interesting
01:37:11.980 but but this um you know this is another alarming thing that might be that maybe
01:37:23.020 should be one of the major points of why this bill is going to be terrible uh
01:37:27.260 but we'll get to that later there's a lot to get through let's keep it rolling
01:37:37.020 for my community and for so many oh good point canada rv says there is online child locks that's
01:37:44.100 a great point there is more and more technologies not from the government but from you know private
01:37:50.560 organizations or you know i haven't looked up a lot of them but i know that they do exist which
01:37:55.740 is to safeguard your child from certain websites to safeguard your child from uh certain well i
01:38:02.140 think websites is the main thing but you can you know track their their behavior on devices and i
01:38:07.820 think you know this is a much larger conversation that should be had you know i talked to i talked
01:38:15.480 to i talked to whenever i talked to a teacher or a someone with kids younger kids i always ask
01:38:23.760 them i'm like hey do you have any protocols or standards with your kids when it comes to using
01:38:30.400 devices and I'm really scared when they say no like they don't have any sort of they don't have
01:38:37.100 any sort of standards of you know when to let them use it when to not let them use it oh I just let
01:38:41.620 them do whatever they want with it that's terrifying to me and I make the example of like
01:38:45.780 you know I'm a grown man sometimes I'm addicted to my phone though it's bad sometimes I'll be
01:38:51.480 hooked on my phone I'll be doom scrolling whatever and I think a lot of people have this issue like
01:38:55.400 some people can't even go to the bathroom without bringing their device with them like this is a
01:39:00.140 large societal we haven't had smartphones for very long guys you know in the grand scheme of
01:39:04.760 things we have not had smartphones very long and i think a lot of us are going to look at it like
01:39:08.540 chain smoking in a way in terms of um you know we thought smoking was totally fine right when when
01:39:16.540 when smoking first became popular uh well not when it first became popular but you know we always
01:39:22.780 thought smoking was cool and everything and oh it's only later did we realize that the horrible
01:39:26.600 horrible health consequences and i think that might be the same thing with smartphones constantly
01:39:30.720 being plugged in to wi-fi all the time constantly being in touch with one another and being on
01:39:35.620 twitter blah blah blah like we're only going to see the negative consequences of this probably
01:39:38.880 like you know 20 years down the line when we have all the data or all the all the research on it
01:39:43.040 but uh no one talks about this now like we're giving cigarettes to kids we're giving smartphones
01:39:49.740 to kids that's crazy and it's part of a larger i think it's part of a larger valid conversation
01:39:56.600 but of course once again it's disingenuous the government doesn't really want to have this
01:40:00.680 conversation they just want to use it as a an excuse to control the internet which makes this
01:40:07.440 very despicable makes it detestable and even villainous i would say and we'll get to that in
01:40:12.600 detestable and villainous in a second
01:40:14.700 here
01:40:14.980 any other communities
01:40:18.400 look no further than the killing 0.89
01:40:20.700 of four members of the Avzil family
01:40:22.820 which a court in Ontario
01:40:24.600 just last week described and I
01:40:26.720 quote as a textbook act of
01:40:28.800 terrorism end quote
01:40:30.340 I don't know much about this
01:40:32.760 story but it is
01:40:34.360 I guess I'll write it down actually
01:40:36.680 to look into
01:40:37.420 people and that radicalization has real world
01:40:40.820 impacts for my community and for so many other communities. Look no further than the killing
01:40:47.860 of four members of the Avzil family which a court in Ontario just last week described
01:40:53.300 and I quote as a textbook act of terrorism end quote. So there are many reasons for me 1.00
01:40:59.380 and my parliamentary colleagues to take action today but I do not want you to hear only from me.
01:41:04.740 I want you to hear why this work is urgent from people who have experienced the worst
01:41:09.460 of the internet the trauma of child exploitation or the pain of being subjected to hate and
01:41:15.220 vilification despite their personal traumas jane and carla right so those i guess those are kind
01:41:25.620 of like the three that's the trifecta that he referred to at the beginning terrorism um child
01:41:32.500 Not exploitation.
01:41:35.620 And then hate, which is the weakest one.
01:41:41.440 Just the pain of being hate and vilified online.
01:41:45.800 Again, just walk away from the computer, bro.
01:41:48.080 Walk away from the computer.
01:41:50.400 And of course, it's also, yeah, no, there's lots to get into.
01:41:54.660 Okay, Trent Dabbs says, I think the story is about the guy that drove his truck over a family for a walk.
01:41:59.380 Okay, so it was the one that happened in London, Ontario a couple years ago, right?
01:42:02.400 I was I was wondering about that I need to see that court decision but once again he's front
01:42:14.020 loading it all with tragedies or bad things that have happened and saying this is why we need to
01:42:20.520 censor the internet have bravely come here today to share their stories in the hope that through
01:42:26.360 our shared work none of you your kids or your grandkids will have to go through
01:42:32.360 what they did I want to invite Jane to come to the podium and say a few words
01:42:36.680 but before she begins I want to caution people that are watching online and
01:42:41.060 caution the people that are in this room right now that her story deals with a
01:42:44.960 very difficult but very important subject matter Jane content warning
01:42:53.460 thank you minister for your warm introduction i've seen this before
01:42:59.280 and uh yeah i'm i'm i'm probably gonna freak out in a minute i'm gonna try to
01:43:06.840 be as remain as calm as possible
01:43:08.980 okay my name is jane i'm a mother whose little girl has been sexually abused and on account of
01:43:21.140 the abuse has also become a victim of sexual exploitation so I know this is a very powerful
01:43:28.680 testimony but let's get things in the right order here okay first she was sexually abused
01:43:36.620 and then the content was spread online I'd also like to acknowledge and state that I may be one
01:43:43.860 mother but one of countless who could be standing here and sharing their stories with all of you
01:43:49.460 I want to let you know how burdensome sharing my daughter's story will actually be for me.
01:43:56.260 I'd like to provide some insight and perhaps describe a few details of the horrific sexual abuse my little girl has had to endure.
01:44:06.140 Her life since the abuse has been far from manageable.
01:44:10.000 The unending pain and trauma completely engulfs every part of her body.
01:44:14.620 She was just a toddler when one day evil stamped itself upon her.
01:44:19.460 Just a young child that had no choice but to solely entrust her life to the hands of an adult.
01:44:26.300 Okay.
01:44:27.880 Trusting her life to the hands of an adult.
01:44:30.080 Where did this adult come from?
01:44:31.980 How did this sexual abuse happen?
01:44:34.540 What does this have to do with the internet?
01:44:37.260 An adult who was supposed to protect her from harm.
01:44:40.820 Okay.
01:44:41.500 So this is a trusting adult that is close to your daughter.
01:44:46.640 how did this trusting adult get there again what does this have to do with the internet
01:44:51.440 teach her right from wrong and love her in such a manner that cultivated and enforced a future of
01:44:58.300 what a healthy relationship was supposed to look like wow so this adult was very much
01:45:05.380 entrusted with your daughter did you find this person online where did this person come from
01:45:11.300 In her preschool to kindergarten years, she was told or taught to believe that sex or sexual actions between children and grownups was completely acceptable and normal.
01:45:23.020 How did this happen?
01:45:25.980 How did this happen?
01:45:28.300 Who was teaching her this?
01:45:30.680 Was it Justin Trudeau? 0.97
01:45:32.040 Was it all this crazy gender stuff which the Liberal Party pushes?
01:45:36.540 some days instead of watching cartoons she would spend her time with a presumably trusted adult
01:45:46.240 who normalized child pornographic material this story is so horribly vile
01:45:55.480 it's a crime
01:45:58.520 her daughter was a victim to a pedo 0.98
01:46:06.540 A predator.
01:46:08.360 A horribly vile, detestable, villainous person.
01:46:11.660 The question is, how did that part happen?
01:46:16.060 Because it sounds like a typical...
01:46:19.640 They say that the actual predators are people who are trusting close to your kids already.
01:46:25.960 They just want to keep them safe, right?
01:46:29.660 And I'm saying all this because I know that none of these questions get addressed.
01:46:34.020 And it's just totally despicable.
01:46:36.540 It's totally despicable that Arif Farhani, to justify his legislation to censor the internet,
01:46:44.560 he's using a distraught mother whose daughter was a victim to sexual exploitation, a sexual predator.
01:46:53.280 In real life, in real life this happened.
01:46:57.580 Nothing to do with the internet, nothing to do with any of that.
01:47:00.820 Unfortunately, this person got close to her daughter and ruined her life.
01:47:06.540 censoring the internet would not prevent that from happening any of the legislation in this
01:47:15.400 bill c63 would not prevent that from happening think about how disgusting this is in terms of
01:47:21.900 a tactic oh hey where was your daughter like a horrible victim to some disgusting sexual predator
01:47:28.360 great we're going to use that story to justify this this this speech bill 0.99
01:47:34.220 make sense okay and it's like you know her naivety is probably being exploited here she's
01:47:41.840 telling like talking like you know she's just she's drinking the kool-aid of the of the sort
01:47:46.180 of argument that we're going to keep kids safe but anyway let's keep let's keep watching 1.00
01:47:49.080 this normalization took place by subjecting her to possibly hundreds of child exploitation videos
01:47:57.500 repeatedly at any opportune moment once again the person is with your daughter they didn't
01:48:06.880 jump out of an internet screen okay they were like the unfortunate reality is they were trusted
01:48:13.080 to take like babysit your daughter this is we're dealing with a sexual predator we're dealing with
01:48:19.240 a crime that's already a crime that is totally despicable and everyone should quite frankly hate
01:48:26.340 and yeah this bill does not address what happened to your daughter the the initial abuse the initial
01:48:33.380 sort of grooming that happened with the help of various child sexual abuse material
01:48:40.680 she was deliberately raped by her abuser over and over again based on evidence collected by
01:48:48.300 law enforcement it could possibly be determined that she was raped and sexually assaulted on a
01:48:53.360 daily basis she was between the ages of anywhere from three to six years old again this is so
01:49:00.140 disgusting that they're using this vile story of something that happened in real life not on the
01:49:07.960 internet sure they watched stuff on the internet but this is a sexual predator meeting a young girl
01:49:13.640 and grooming her okay that is horribly despicable and this legislation has nothing to do with
01:49:23.200 stopping something like that raped in such a way that she was instructed to believe that this was
01:49:31.480 normal to prevent her again sophisticated grooming of a child by a horribly disgusting person who
01:49:40.940 should be shot or in jail i'm telling anyone her abuser told her that it was just their little
01:49:46.720 secrets quite often she was bribed with candy as well when this initial abuser was caught
01:49:54.240 they admitted the abuse had spiraled out of control uh um you think
01:50:03.200 they had become desensitized to child rape themselves
01:50:07.760 are so we're giving sympathy to the pedophile now really you serious
01:50:11.840 child and child sexual abuse material they admitted they were always hungry for more
01:50:20.940 yeah because they're a monster they're a monster and bill c63 has nothing to do with stopping what
01:50:28.500 this monster did to your daughter you're being used by this liberal minister crook
01:50:33.280 my child's understanding of what happened to them is greater than they wish they could remember
01:50:40.060 yeah i mean this that can't be put into words what like the effect of sexual abuse on a child
01:50:48.900 cannot be put into words but anyway man this poor this poor woman being being exploited by 0.99
01:50:56.780 by this motherfucker right here that's crazy the extent of the damage that was done to her 1.00
01:51:02.560 in the moment and that continues in the present is incalculable my little girl has countless 0.89
01:51:08.980 splashbacks that haunt her while she sleeps and this bill cannot prevent that from happening
01:51:19.460 it's unfortunate but think of how disgusting a sexual predator like this is you think a little
01:51:26.740 internet bill is going to stop them from again gaining your trust getting close to young to
01:51:32.980 to, you know, young, it's just so frustrating because like, none of this is addressed. The
01:51:42.160 fact that your child was a victim to a horrible sexual predator. And that is the problem. That
01:51:48.360 was the crime. That was the thing that we should be wanting to prevent. But instead it's like,
01:51:52.080 yeah, anyway, so we're going to add all this, uh, these, these rules to online speech,
01:51:55.420 uh, what you can and can't say, and that'll prevent it next time. No, it won't.
01:51:58.780 you're just using this horrible story as an excuse to try and gain control over the internet
01:52:05.960 it's so despicable she is anxious and scared she is unable to even leave the house alone
01:52:12.620 she is fearful of people the abuse that happened to her is in hyperactive state and is continuously
01:52:19.780 traded and is known as a series of child sexual abuse material that is circulating on the internet
01:52:27.360 child predators have saved and shared images and videos of her tiny body lying naked and contorted
01:52:37.020 in inappropriate ways her privates are no longer private her smile her laughter and her innocence
01:52:47.640 have all been taken from her how she is portrayed in those pictures and videos
01:52:54.280 is not how she wants to be perceived no shit how she's depicted in these videos is not how she
01:53:03.980 I mean we're we're go like this testimony goes into the depths of of the total the evil it goes
01:53:12.480 into the depths of the evil of a sexual predator exploiting a child okay and once again what's the
01:53:19.820 root of the problem here the root of the problem here is a sexual predator was able to win this
01:53:24.220 mother's trust to the point where she let um you know she let this sexual predator have a lot of
01:53:32.200 access to her child a lot you know and and honestly it must be so hard for this mom to like
01:53:40.360 i hate to say like live with yourself after that like she trusted this person and and fucked up 0.92
01:53:46.840 like that man and and you know what and then a referani swoops in and says like hey we'll make 0.97
01:53:56.580 it all better just tell your story and we'll stop this from ever happening again what a piece of 1.00
01:54:02.700 shit honestly she says to me that little girl is dead all the child molesters pedophiles and 1.00
01:54:13.600 their associates who take it upon themselves to download view save and share my child's
01:54:19.540 inappropriate pedophilia abuse material have taken part in murdering her once again this is all
01:54:27.480 already illegal child pornography is illegal it's all illegal all these things that obviously it's
01:54:35.340 horrible but like all this stuff is already illegal um and yeah yes murder she refers to
01:54:45.620 it as murder because the perpetrators blatantly premeditated their motives and actions against her
01:54:51.180 those individuals that possess her child sexual abuse products should be held accountable and
01:54:57.000 take full moral responsibility okay okay so this is crazy because she's talking about the people
01:55:05.060 who are consuming the content the horrible content of her daughter being sexually exploited
01:55:10.860 but again it's not addressing the person who won her trust and actually exploited her daughter to
01:55:17.020 begin with the actual like initial fund like first crime that happened it's discussed to me that's
01:55:25.680 such a crazy sleight of hand that now they're like yeah the people consuming the content are
01:55:29.440 the real bad people and of course they are but it's like your child initially getting exploited
01:55:36.040 by this horrible monster that's the first thing that we should be trying to stop it almost implies
01:55:41.900 that the consuming of the content is the worst part no no it's all bad but how it started is 0.51
01:55:48.740 is the root cause is the root problem hello and if you are some sick sexual predator who's into
01:55:54.740 that stuff you there you're probably on the dark web and stuff and you can try to avoid all the 0.95
01:55:59.220 all this censorship anyway because of people like them she has secluded herself from enjoyment of a
01:56:07.960 fulfilled life this once again it's not the people it's it's the initial abuser what is the only
01:56:16.560 coping mechanism she believes she has to protect herself she feels that she is damaged beyond
01:56:22.440 repair she wants the abusive material to vanish she mentions that even when she is truly dead
01:56:30.120 the material will still be somewhere in existence the evolution of technology is her nemesis
01:56:40.360 i mean this i talked about how it's victim porn this is this is really like this is probably the
01:56:46.520 the best of the best once again a reef brings this horribly vile story and you can't you can't
01:56:53.020 help but feel something and be like this is awful what's happened to this woman this woman and her
01:56:57.320 daughter but once again this is all just being steered in the direction of passing a bill that
01:57:05.580 will end free speech in canada this this is vile because it's using the the the totally evil
01:57:17.920 situation to justify more evil it's and it's it's it's like hey this evil thing happened
01:57:25.160 we're not going to actually address the root cause of the evil we're just going to use your story
01:57:29.700 to uh be more tyrannical actually so yeah to vanish she mentions that even when she is truly
01:57:39.440 dead the material will still be somewhere in existence the evolution of technology is her
01:57:46.340 nemesis she cannot escape the abuse nor can the abuse escape her my child has suffered
01:57:55.500 in silence for far too long. She should not be ashamed. Neither should she feel
01:58:01.380 guilty of the personal attack that takes place on the uncontrolled internet. My
01:58:06.600 little girl is everything. As her mother I've made the decision to remove my
01:58:11.820 protective layer to fight for her. I am her advocate as well as her voice. She
01:58:17.780 never had a choice as a child. She has been illegally trafficked on the internet.
01:58:22.680 her CSAM runs rampant all over the internet my little girl is not solely a victim of hands-on
01:58:29.720 offending again why why aren't you talking about that part more though you're not talking about
01:58:37.680 that part of the the hands-on assault that happened like you you talked about it in great
01:58:43.640 detail but you're not talking about how that was the initial mistake she never had a choice as a
01:58:49.580 child. She has been illegally trafficked on the internet. Her CSAM runs rampant all over the 1.00
01:58:56.460 internet. My little girl is not solely a victim of hands-on offending. But that was the worst part
01:59:02.580 of it, was it not? The hands-on offending was probably the worst part of it. She is re-victimized
01:59:09.020 every single time her child sexual abuse material surfs throughout the dark web.
01:59:13.880 this stuff's already illegal canadians care about their children they have been put in an unwanted
01:59:21.080 place where they have no control and no control over how their children's lives are damaged by
01:59:26.340 the weaponized use of technology once again what about the root cause what about the root cause
01:59:33.620 of sexual predators exploiting children and winning your trust as a mother that is the problem is it
01:59:38.700 not like and once again like all this stuff you're talking about of redistributing
01:59:47.580 redistributing it is already illegal does canada not have a responsibility to protect
01:59:54.640 the future of our children should my child be a slave to fear for the rest of her life
02:00:02.280 i mean i hate i hate to be the bearer of bad news here but
02:00:07.900 like she is right the damage is done like you can't undo childhood sexual abuse
02:00:15.840 you can't undo that and i just feel like i don't know maybe i'm crazy but i feel like it's an
02:00:22.700 like the the fact that it's redistributed online is kind of an afterthought like i feel like the
02:00:28.860 actual experience itself uh is enough of a trip for somebody to deal with um because again that's
02:00:36.180 the hands-on part that's the actual remember the thing that the reef said at the beginning
02:00:40.240 well if we feel safe in our communities we should feel safe online too this girl wasn't safe in her
02:00:46.440 community because she was exploited by a sexual predator and that was the initial that's the
02:00:51.680 initial problem here about how all this happened we should all feel safe in our communities this
02:00:56.560 child was not safe in her community so let's start with that but no we're just gonna we're
02:01:00.960 going right over to no no that's why we gotta control the internet that's why we gotta control
02:01:04.060 the internet that's why we gotta control the internet because my daughter got exploited by
02:01:08.740 a pedophile now we have to control everything on the internet and not actually start to i don't
02:01:13.600 know hunt the pedophiles and like create legislation to try and find these people
02:01:18.460 fear is the cause of my child's paralyzed future at what expense do canadians prioritize their
02:01:27.940 so-called freedom i am what hold on fear is the cause of my child's paralyzed future
02:01:38.240 at what expense do canadians prioritize their so-called freedom at what expense
02:01:45.520 do Canadians
02:01:47.300 prioritize their
02:01:49.260 so-called freedom
02:01:50.500 I don't even know I don't even know what to say
02:01:55.420 to that
02:01:55.780 it's it's
02:01:59.440 it's implying that unless we
02:02:01.300 unless we unless we pass this legislation
02:02:03.460 you know
02:02:05.320 pedophiles will be free to do whatever they
02:02:07.240 want to do and
02:02:09.260 it's like
02:02:09.760 pedophiles are already
02:02:13.260 doing what they're doing and
02:02:15.220 this legislation wouldn't stop it it's honestly this stuff is infuriating this stuff is infuri
02:02:21.420 infuriating but i hate to admit it it is very well written because if you're somebody who
02:02:25.340 doesn't know what's going on you're you're totally captivated by your story and you're like we need
02:02:29.680 to do something about this and that's that's how this is designed you know that's how they've
02:02:33.920 designed to try and uh spearhead this uh this bill i am standing here today because we need
02:02:40.240 a culture of lawfulness that strongly enforces internet regulation the unregulated internet has
02:02:46.320 damaged my child and countless children across the country that is the craziest sentence in
02:02:53.440 summary probably of them all the unregulated internet hurt my child no a pedophile hurt your
02:03:00.540 child and broke the law many times like the the sexual exploitation that's probably sex i don't
02:03:06.800 know the specific laws but like the actual abuse itself the recording of the abuse the distribute
02:03:12.220 the distributing of the abuse those are all already illegal horrible things and you're saying
02:03:17.660 it's the unregulated internet that did this no it's not the unregulated internet that did this
02:03:23.340 it was a sexual predator who knew what he was doing that did this it's an it's evil it's awful
02:03:30.660 everyone who is has a heart strongly disagrees with what happened to your daughter but it wasn't
02:03:38.120 the unregulated internet that did this it was an a pedophile who's connected to another network of
02:03:44.240 pedophiles that do their thing of operating like pedophiles do i don't know i don't know how it
02:03:49.820 works but it's once again the root cause of this this horrible horrible evil story
02:03:54.960 is totally brushed aside in favor of this tyrannical agenda let's hear it again
02:04:00.420 their so-called freedom i am standing here today because we need a culture of lawfulness that
02:04:07.000 strongly enforces internet regulation the unregulated internet has damaged my child
02:04:12.500 and countless children across the country the unregulated internet has damaged my child
02:04:19.020 i mean again the you know it skims over so many details
02:04:25.900 because i'm sure the content of her child being this like sexual abuse material i'm sure it what
02:04:33.660 i'm sure it has been regulated in some way i'm sure it was illegal or maybe it wasn't which goes
02:04:38.860 to my point that i brought earlier which is if arif varani was serious about protecting kids
02:04:44.480 online he would name he would name them he would name mind geek he would name the like large
02:04:52.480 Porn site beast
02:04:55.240 Company that lives
02:04:57.180 In Canada that operates in Canada
02:04:59.080 But he doesn't he just said no
02:05:00.980 You know broadly the internet we're going to save the internet
02:05:03.320 From all this from
02:05:04.900 We're going to stop the pedophiles in real life
02:05:07.460 By censoring stuff online
02:05:09.500 Yeah that doesn't
02:05:11.460 Make any sense
02:05:12.120 Wow you hey good job 1.00
02:05:21.560 brief you just you just use that that woman's story to try and push your political agenda do
02:05:26.500 you feel proud you feel proud buddy good job guy motherfucker man it's villainous to do that 0.80
02:05:35.360 villainous villainous oh was your was your child sexually assaulted by a pedophile i'm going to 0.87
02:05:41.760 use your story to push this tyrannical bill okay cool hey here here's the script read it
02:05:51.560 Thank you, Jane, for being here and for having the courage to share your story and your family's story.
02:06:00.560 And I'll say to you quite candidly that it is those kinds of stories that inspire us to do the work that is necessary today.
02:06:06.560 As Leanna from the Canadian Centre for Child Protection can tell you, Jane's story is unfortunately not actually unique.
02:06:15.560 It is shocking what is available online.
02:06:19.560 Protecting our kids, all kids, from this kind of abuse and exploitation is what governments must do.
02:06:25.700 And we will do that. 1.00
02:06:32.420 So, I'm pretty sure this black woman, it's all in French. 0.99
02:06:38.400 silenced anymore oh mon histoire n'est pas unique au contraire mon histoire est celle de
02:06:45.120 so any uh any french users in chat french users any french speakers in chat i i can't
02:06:52.000 i don't know if there's english subtitles i'm gonna have i'm is there english subtitles
02:06:59.120 tant de femmes qui sont traquées sur les réseaux sociaux et qu'on tente de réduire
02:07:03.680 I'm a stupid anglophone, I don't understand
02:07:12.760 Yeah, sorry
02:07:15.840 It has something to do with
02:07:22.380 I bet it has something to do with racism
02:07:24.840 I have a feeling
02:07:25.980 And I hate to do this to you guys
02:07:29.720 For the French speakers 1.00
02:07:31.240 I need to run to the bathroom 1.00
02:07:34.640 So maybe try and figure it out
02:07:38.000 Talk amongst yourselves in chat
02:07:39.540 If you understand the French
02:07:41.000 I don't know
02:08:01.240 Combien n'ont pas cette chance ? Combien de vies ont été brisées ? Combien ont abdiqué ? Combien nous ont quittés ?
02:08:09.240 Le projet de loi déposé aujourd'hui n'est que le début d'une série d'actions nécessaires qui, je l'espère, nous protégeront de ce fléau qu'est la haine en ligne et sensibilisera la population sur ses effets dévastateurs.
02:08:22.240 La haine est une menace pour notre sécurité, notre démocratie et nos droits en tant que
02:08:27.240 Canadiens et Canadiennes.
02:08:28.240 La liberté d'expression ne devrait jamais être érigée comme droit fondamental quand
02:08:33.840 elle détruit des vies.
02:08:34.840 Ma vie a basculé depuis 2020 et je ne crois pas que je pourrais être complètement guérie
02:08:40.240 des traumatismes que je porte encore en moi.
02:08:42.840 Mais la journée d'aujourd'hui me donne espoir, espoir que la banalisation et l'impunité
02:08:48.240 de la haine en ligne ne seront plus acceptés.
02:08:50.640 And I would like to add, out of my text written, that to me is a necessary step for my daughter.
02:09:01.640 It is thanks to her that I have been able to pass through what I have lived,
02:09:06.640 but also to say to all the Black women who live these moments,
02:09:12.640 to not be silent.
02:09:15.640 For me, the law project today gives me emotion.
02:09:18.640 Who's got the translation?
02:09:20.540 Who's got the translation, guys?
02:09:24.520 I learned a little French when I went to Montreal for no reason,
02:09:27.040 though everyone speaks English anyway.
02:09:30.520 True North is promoting our savior, PP. 0.75
02:09:32.780 Yep.
02:09:35.380 Derek Nelson said something that people are agreeing with.
02:09:37.780 Where's Derek?
02:09:38.560 If you're going to bust the internet, get rid of porn, not free speech.
02:09:42.420 I mean, hey, that's real.
02:09:45.640 Real.
02:09:46.040 like if the conversation was more focused on that that would be that would be more interesting i
02:09:51.260 would maybe be more supportive of that but um you know as we'll see uh it's as we'll see in the
02:09:59.600 question period when he starts to get he gets starts to get questions soon you can see when
02:10:03.940 he makes all of his gestures he's you see all that bullshit uh all the questions are basically
02:10:09.100 about the speech like it has very little to do with the whole sexual exploitation thing which 0.57
02:10:12.840 kind of just shows you what what's what's actually going on with this bill you know and like it's
02:10:17.140 it's important to do this because this is you know we're breaking down the we're dismantling if you
02:10:24.800 will the uh the trojan horse because the whole trojan horse is working to protect kids and um
02:10:31.260 this is the best that they got it's pretty it's honestly it's not bad they're they're using a
02:10:36.300 story of of a poor young girl getting exploited by a pedophile to try and push this bill through
02:10:43.780 it's despicable but it's it's going to work on a lot of people and it's my job it's our job to
02:10:50.280 start dismantling that now ahead of time because the conservative party is just going to wait
02:10:54.800 around wait around wait around oh are they passing this bill it's going to be the end of free speech
02:10:58.440 oh let's talk about it for one week and oh it passed already but hey just vote for me when
02:11:02.500 trudeau gets in okay guys then i'll get rid of that bill okay oh sorry did i did i only give 0.73
02:11:07.200 a fuck when it was like way too late i'm sorry guys well trudeau bad bring it home 0.69
02:11:11.540 all right let's keep going 0.89
02:11:14.620 look how ungen look how disingenuous that hug was holy shit like what the
02:11:25.800 that's crazy dude look how fake that hug is
02:11:32.500 You didn't feel that at all. He's just a...
02:11:35.140 Merci. Merci beaucoup, Carla.
02:11:37.440 Merci. Merci beaucoup.
02:11:39.100 Merci beaucoup.
02:11:45.780 Okay, there are the captions.
02:11:52.400 This is what the Online Harms Act will do.
02:11:55.620 Under this bill, major online services will have three overarching obligations.
02:12:00.180 a duty to protect children a duty to act okay big tech already does that
02:12:07.540 they i'm sure they already do things to protect kids online i haven't read all the rules and
02:12:12.460 regulations for meta facebook instagram i'm pretty sure instagram even banned like nipples
02:12:17.540 and stuff anyway responsibly and the duty to remove the most egregious content big tech
02:12:25.620 definitely already does this the major social media already does this the only thing that you
02:12:31.020 could say is x allows porn so honestly although like hey x is the big free speech platform
02:12:37.160 that's honestly one area where you could definitely criticize elon musk is he going to getting rid of
02:12:43.360 that egregious content i don't know but um again this is just the trojan horse but the fact of the
02:12:49.420 matter is this idea that big tech doesn't already do this is crazy crazy crazy but actually i'll
02:12:56.980 write this down as a note actually because this could be a good thing um how many people at meta
02:13:05.240 and google for example uh how many people at meta and google for example who work there
02:13:18.380 are dedicated to protecting kids acting responsibly which is like such a is that what he said
02:13:28.580 your online services will have three overarching obligations a duty to protect children sure a
02:13:36.640 duty to act responsibly responsibly and the duty to remove the most egregious content this bill
02:13:42.620 targets the worst of what we see online oh my god yeah that's like big tech already does that so
02:13:48.740 what i'll find out is how many people at meta and google who work there are dedicated to doing just
02:13:55.560 that there's probably entire departments there's probably been like hundreds or even thousands of
02:14:01.020 people who work for meta and google who are like dedicated to doing exactly that um so yeah like
02:14:08.620 this is very very similar by the way to um bill c11 and bill c18 for those who don't know bill c11
02:14:19.160 was basically like the algorithm act i like to call it because the government was like hey we
02:14:24.140 want to see how your algorithms work we want to tweak your algorithm to help canadian artists was
02:14:28.300 the excuse but it's like guess what uh big tech already is really good at catering an algorithm
02:14:34.680 them to to the people uh you know we don't need your help canadian government but they're like
02:14:39.840 no we're gonna do it anyway and then bill c18 is the online news act which again it's like big tech
02:14:46.340 already does all this stuff the canadian government just wanted an excuse to try and um you know get
02:14:52.440 money from big tech get a slice of the pie
02:14:56.740 and then also
02:15:00.140 control
02:15:02.680 they want to control over big tech
02:15:05.160 because
02:15:06.080 the Canadian media sucks
02:15:09.420 and they don't have much
02:15:11.260 viewers and people go online to get
02:15:13.380 to consume content
02:15:14.580 and they want that control back
02:15:16.720 they want to be able to control people see
02:15:19.200 and all that and C18
02:15:21.420 is an objective
02:15:23.240 failure
02:15:24.000 for you because meta and google is like okay fine we're just not going to play ball
02:15:31.500 there's not enough people in canada so we're just not going to show the news there how do you like
02:15:35.980 that that's just like that just proves objective incompetence and just total total bad legislation
02:15:43.080 for c18 that's actually yeah that's that's a great point that's definitely going to be
02:15:48.360 needs to be emphasized
02:15:51.300 over and over again
02:15:52.340 because it's like
02:15:53.400 we already have evidence
02:15:54.420 of terrible legislation passing
02:15:55.980 that is objectively bad.
02:15:58.620 Like you can't even argue against that.
02:16:02.460 And these are the same people
02:16:03.740 that want to pass this bill
02:16:04.800 with all the holes in it.
02:16:07.560 Hey, super chat from Chris S.
02:16:10.320 Great work.
02:16:11.100 Thanks, Greg.
02:16:11.540 Bill 63 needs to go.
02:16:14.680 Absolutely it does.
02:16:16.480 Absolutely it does.
02:16:17.420 Thank you so much, Chris,
02:16:18.180 for the donation and just to remind everybody we are doing a fundraiser for a documentary all about
02:16:24.360 the people behind bill c63 and what it's all about you can go to give saying go.com slash
02:16:30.720 save free speech to donate big thanks to everyone who's donated big thanks to chris s who just
02:16:36.840 donated anonymous giver says you rock thank you anonymous giver uh really appreciate that i'm
02:16:45.360 excited guys we can do this together we can do this together and i'm really excited for you guys
02:16:52.500 to see the stuff that we're cooking up um because there's a lot of good stuff on the horizon but
02:16:56.680 let's it's getting late here and i'm i gotta i'm drinking my sugary drink to get through this
02:17:01.120 uh because there's a lot more to get through here back to a reef we're arching obligations
02:17:08.500 a duty to protect children a duty to act responsibly and the duty to remove the most
02:17:15.060 egregious content this bill targets the worst of what we see online content that sexually
02:17:21.680 victimizes children or re-victimizes survivors intimate so said this already that's already
02:17:30.040 illegal pretty sure that's already illegal and and yeah i'm probably a broken record here at
02:17:37.100 this point but like that needs to be emphasized because they keep bringing this up like like
02:17:41.460 sexual exploitation content of children it isn't illegal already you know and this really is
02:17:49.980 so insulting so insulting that we're supposed to believe that this bill is going to protect kids
02:17:58.160 online when this is the type of stuff that's pushed by the same liberal canadian government
02:18:03.960 In regular times, her name is Bunny.
02:18:06.960 But when she's in drag, whoopee, my dad.
02:18:16.740 This is CBC Kids News. 0.91
02:18:19.160 CBC Kids.
02:18:22.720 Okay, okay, I'm not even watching this.
02:18:25.700 I'm not even watching this.
02:18:26.900 That's disgusting.
02:18:28.620 What?
02:18:29.840 Who's exploiting who here?
02:18:31.300 they're saying this liberal minister is saying that hey we're going to protect kids from sexual
02:18:37.820 exploitation we're the liberal government we're going to protect kids from sexual exploitation
02:18:43.520 you support the gay pride parades where there's naked men with their genitalia in front of 0.67
02:18:49.440 children that's what the liberal party supports they've never criticized that aspect of gay pride 0.65
02:18:55.540 not at all they would actually criticize anybody who points that out they also support drag time
02:19:01.020 story hour which oh it's not sexual well it's certainly going to mess with their heads and
02:19:07.220 maybe let the kid google something online later about it same with the gender bending um same
02:19:15.100 with the gender bending curriculum the liberal party loves this stuff we know we need to be more
02:19:20.860 open with kids it's not sexual they just you know they might switch around their their their sex
02:19:26.000 their sexual genitals they might say that say that they're a different uh sex altogether nothing to 0.83
02:19:30.540 do with sex though we might encourage them to change their sexual organs nothing to do with 0.89
02:19:35.660 sex though we really oh we don't want to sexually exploit kids though we don't want to expose them 0.80
02:19:39.660 to any sexual material it's fucking bullshit it's so insulting it's so insulting that they're
02:19:48.820 presenting this bill and saying we're going to protect kids from sexual exploitation we're the 0.91
02:19:54.600 liberal party fuck off fuck off crazy man crazy you're crazy a reef nice try though nice try 0.61
02:20:09.600 though this is gonna be really fun i can't wait to make more content about that just exposing the 0.87
02:20:13.800 like how despicable this is your online services will have three overarching obligations a duty to
02:20:20.800 protect children a duty to act responsibly and the duty to remove the most egregious content
02:20:27.380 this bill targets the worst of what we see online content that sexually victimizes children
02:20:33.760 or re-victimizes survivors intimate content shared without consent content that incites
02:20:41.040 violence extremism or terrorism there it is we're getting right into the uh political suppression
02:20:48.280 incites violence extremism or terrorism oh boy lots to get into content that incites violence
02:20:55.960 or foments hatred and content that is used to bully a child or induce a child to self-harm
02:21:03.020 that's correct yeah wow wow like the the speech laws are crazy there i'm pretty sure there's seven
02:21:11.460 points in total that he outlines um i'm not going to write it down because i'm sure it's you know
02:21:16.520 i'm sure it'll come come up again but um at least three of those are directly
02:21:22.200 all about hate speech content that sexually victimizes children okay or re-victimizes
02:21:28.080 survivors already legal content shared without consent already illegal content that incites
02:21:33.980 violence extremism or terrorism hate speech content that incites violence or foments hatred
02:21:39.340 incites violence terrorism
02:21:45.820 incites hatred
02:21:51.180 and content that is used to bully a child or induce a child to self-harm this bill will
02:22:01.280 establish a new digital safety commission to make sure that online services comply
02:22:06.000 yeah so um incites violence or terrorism incites hatred or makes a kid want to kill themselves
02:22:12.700 so yeah you know the crazy thing is is like what i just showed uh drag kids from cbc that makes me 0.79
02:22:22.340 want to kill myself so you know what i get to you know will we stop the cbc from making me want to 0.82
02:22:29.660 kill myself with this despicable content you know but you know the i'm being facetious or whatever 0.70
02:22:36.620 but uh the same time prairie says how old is this video so this is from february 2024
02:22:43.500 um when this bill was first tabled okay and i'm i'm going over it because it gives the best
02:22:51.980 arguments for in favor of bill c63 so i'm taking the time to kind of go over all of it what are
02:22:57.760 the best arguments for this bill and uh yeah let's let's destroy it let's crush it let's just
02:23:03.260 dismantle any of their arguments as being completely uh awful but anyway let's keep it
02:23:09.560 going with their new obligations as well as an ombudsperson to advocate for users and victims
02:23:15.500 of online harm um yeah so this next part is all of the bureaucracy and regulatory entities that
02:23:25.040 he wants to add to the big fat liberal canadian government basically being a bunch of boards
02:23:31.160 people and ombudsperson that's connected to the uh you know canadian human rights court and uh
02:23:40.400 yeah it's all it's all just going to be a system of political oppression but let's listen to it
02:23:45.020 content that incites violence or foments hatred and content that is used to bully a child or
02:23:51.820 induce a child to self-harm this bill will establish a new digital safety commission
02:23:58.140 to make sure that online services comply with their new obligations as well as an ombudsperson
02:24:03.340 to advocate for users and victims of online harm see how they do that sleight of hand victims of
02:24:10.940 online harm you know if you're watching this for the first time you're thinking that the poor child
02:24:18.060 who is a victim to pedophilia like child grooming irl child grooming in real life you're now
02:24:25.740 associating a victim of pedophilia to victims of online harm he's inventing something a victim of
02:24:34.300 online harm like they're creating new language to try and validate and prop and propagate uh their
02:24:42.860 this message to try and propagate
02:24:45.880 the moral argument to push this
02:24:48.060 legislation through. And this is the big
02:24:49.840 reason why I've started SaveFreeSpeech.ca
02:24:51.900 is because we need to counter that
02:24:54.000 with our own messaging. And it's not going to happen
02:24:55.940 overnight. It needs to be a continuous beating
02:24:57.840 the drum, beating the drum, beating the drum. It's going to
02:24:59.900 take time. We need to make a lot of
02:25:01.840 noise to counter
02:25:03.940 all of... They're making a lot of their noise
02:25:06.000 of, like, it's going to save kids. It's going to save kids. We need
02:25:07.960 to make our own drum, our own speaker
02:25:09.840 system to be like, no, that's bullshit. That's bullshit. That's
02:25:11.880 bullshit. That's bullshit. That's bullshit. And that's why we got to start early. We got to
02:25:16.620 start in the off season in August. We got to prepare. We got to train. We got to train for
02:25:20.920 September, guys. All right. Let's do it.
02:25:41.880 This bill empowers adults.
02:25:54.800 Right now, where your posts go and what appears in your feed are dictated by platforms.
02:26:04.740 That's how the internet works.
02:26:07.380 That's how the internet works, Arif.
02:26:09.660 That's right.
02:26:10.060 they're dictated by platforms yeah the only reason that we can consume them is because the platform
02:26:16.460 made them for us but anyway you guys completely missed the mark with bill c18 which is like
02:26:21.100 you need to pay us to spread the news it's like we are doing this for free facebook's like we're
02:26:26.900 doing this for free what do you mean we need to pay you anyway through this bill we are restoring
02:26:32.620 more of that power to you the individual canadian this rhetoric is crazy right now how is he going
02:26:40.460 to justify this how is this empowering to adults we're going to restore more of that power to you
02:26:45.100 the individual canadian okay how c63 this bill does not wade in to your private communications
02:26:51.180 private communications are exempted from this legislation ironically if you actually wanted
02:26:57.780 to stop pedophilia like maybe there would be some sort of like uh you know hate to say it but like
02:27:05.420 if you're a sexual predator you're going to be privately communicating to groom a child you know
02:27:12.120 what i mean this is just just just to say like if it was truly about stopping the pedophiles
02:27:16.380 then you know sorry like you're obviously not very serious about that if you don't think private
02:27:21.420 communication is you know part part of how that might happen anyway we know that there are power
02:27:26.920 i don't think the government should like i don't want to give them an excuse to like to be looking
02:27:31.240 at our private communications but at the same time as i said earlier like maybe this is part
02:27:37.180 of a larger conversation we're afraid of kids using technology okay maybe there should be an
02:27:42.180 app where a child or adult rather can see everything that their kids are saying and then
02:27:47.620 and then the adult can try to like you know look at that or whatever then again it's a much larger
02:27:52.760 conversation the point is they're clearly not serious about uh you know stopping the pedophiles
02:27:58.100 it's they're serious about being tyrants taking away our rights c63 this bill does not wade in
02:28:04.220 to your private communications private communications are exempted from this
02:28:08.900 legislation we know that there are powerful they want so many brownie points for that like see
02:28:14.240 we're not tyrants see we're not tyrants we're not getting into your private communications we are so
02:28:19.780 trustworthy yeah okay organizations and people who may line up against this legislation people with
02:28:28.020 money and people with influence my message to these people and these organizations is very simple
02:28:35.220 it is now the time to work directly with us profit cannot be prioritized over safety yes
02:28:42.980 profit cannot be prioritized overseas they love to vilify the big tech platforms
02:28:47.220 for uh for making money um and again i guess i guess that's a major point
02:28:54.420 vilify they vilify the big tech platforms you need the government
02:29:01.380 to protect you from big tech
02:29:07.440 that's their argument and again you know kind of kind of compelling kind of compelling
02:29:17.200 If you're not following all this, I could see why that's like an easy bumper sticker for Canadian parents to buy into.
02:29:26.800 Someone made a comment, though.
02:29:28.160 Frosty B-Rocks Insights.
02:29:30.360 Disagree, Greg.
02:29:31.140 There are plenty of victims of online harm.
02:29:34.600 And if you think this public space isn't real, tell those that are radicalized and go commit crimes due to online interactions and engagement.
02:29:42.220 i mean there are plenty of victims of online harm
02:29:50.260 i mean can you give me an example because the thing is is you know to quote trump the world
02:29:58.720 is an angry place frosty b rocks insights uh you could just you could easily say the same thing
02:30:04.840 about, um, let me bring something up here. Um, do to do. Okay. So frosty be insights.
02:30:34.840 so is this uh sir john a mcdonald statue toppled and beheaded in montreal at protest so
02:30:45.580 is this an example of of people committing crimes due to online interactions and engagement
02:30:51.920 like how do we explain this like is this a form of hatred how do we how do we police this how do
02:30:58.120 we stop this uh hey i think sir john a mcdonald is racist we we should topple his statue that this
02:31:06.520 is something that is obviously a popular sentiment in montreal they tore down his his statue um
02:31:13.400 does that make it okay should we censor everybody who says that on the internet
02:31:17.500 realistically they say it on cbc probably more often uh and by politicians who say we should
02:31:23.380 cancel canada day so like is that fomenting hatred oh no it's okay it's okay if if the far
02:31:29.680 leftists do it in in politics in the house of commons on the cbc it's okay if they they do it
02:31:37.160 to their specific targets but but if right wingers do it and criticize antifa or criticize
02:31:44.920 you know gender indoctrination then no no that's the bad type of radicalization that that's the
02:31:51.260 bad like no we don't like that that's not allowed you know free speech is supposed to be free for
02:31:57.580 everybody okay so like do things that you do things that you see online does that like radicalize
02:32:05.960 people i mean i guess so yeah because that's the source of the information of of the reality we're
02:32:10.680 living in right so sure people will see stuff online that that will make them feel a certain
02:32:17.220 way just like when you watch tv or have an interaction with somebody it's going to make
02:32:20.540 you feel a certain way once again it doesn't mean that we should give the keys of everything to the
02:32:26.820 government it doesn't mean we should just let the government handle everything you know this like
02:32:34.560 like and it's clearly ideologically biased um how they're going to enforce this this is really what
02:32:41.420 the the documentary we're making is about and another content but yeah it's um yeah anyway
02:32:48.860 let's continue profit profit over safety these these evil big tech companies they're trying to
02:32:58.260 they're trying to steal all the money and radicalize the kids right now it is too easy
02:33:03.480 for social media companies to look the other way as hate and exploitation festers on their
02:33:09.580 platforms yeah that's crazy bro again once again that's crazy to say that big tech doesn't look
02:33:17.400 into this stuff and stopping a and stopping hate the ADL the anti-defamation league in the states
02:33:24.000 has if I'm not mistaken they wait let me get this right anyway like look it's it's
02:33:31.320 this person clearly does not know what they're talking about in terms of big tech in terms of
02:33:36.460 how much they focus on this stuff and look into this stuff to the point where it's actually like
02:33:40.980 bad like it already is a crazy amount of censorship let's bring up Susan Wazicki rest in peace Susan
02:33:46.540 you know she uh she used to be the ceo of youtube uh there was a time during the pandemic where you
02:33:54.600 could not talk about specific things having to do with covet having to do with the covi having to do
02:34:00.840 with with the shots the injections okay like that like that was to be safe there's already tons and
02:34:07.820 tons and tons and tons and tons of sensors uh in place on all of big tech to control the narrative
02:34:16.200 or at least control what people could say and now he's saying what did he just say
02:34:19.480 very simple it is now the time to work directly with us profit cannot be prioritized over safety
02:34:29.060 right now it is too easy for social media companies to look the other way as hate and
02:34:35.460 exploitation festers on their platforms yeah they're like this is just such a crazy take
02:34:40.880 as if as if big tech doesn't already have all sorts of like censorship
02:34:44.580 um infrastructure in place it it speaks to the ignorance it speaks to like the total
02:34:52.400 incomplete ignorance um these legislators have toward the internet and big tech
02:35:04.060 and what's my piece of evidence for this i mentioned this already bill c18
02:35:08.360 like they pass legislation that is objectively a failure because the big tech just said hey fuck
02:35:14.880 you i guess you're not going to be sharing news on our platform because you don't get how the
02:35:18.460 internet works uh it's a free service so yeah this bill will require platforms to do their part
02:35:27.320 and to do better to keep people safe from harm and i just love that leftist meme do better you
02:35:34.040 need to do better can you do better please you need to do better this is about them doing better
02:35:39.040 and now stealing your freedom of exploitation especially our children there you go brings in
02:35:45.540 the children thing i'm telling you as much as i'm trying to pick this apart this this works on people
02:35:50.920 man failure to do so will have a price significant monetary penalties trying to get that big tech
02:35:59.340 money this legislation does not come out of a vacuum all of us standing here today know that
02:36:05.440 it is a result of years literally years of hard work okay so this is actually a good clip my i
02:36:12.520 should write it down should be right i should be writing i should be writing down the time stamps
02:36:16.820 2317
02:36:20.960 this is a result of years
02:36:25.920 literally literally years
02:36:27.860 of hard work
02:36:29.400 the reason this is a good
02:36:31.000 gotcha is
02:36:32.700 there's so many what ifs
02:36:35.420 and question marks about
02:36:36.920 the specifics of the legislation
02:36:39.280 so it's like if this literally took you years
02:36:40.940 then why are there so many gaping holes
02:36:43.380 in this legislation
02:36:44.520 you know it took you years and you still have
02:36:47.040 all of these gaping holes in the legislation
02:36:48.820 not good not very good
02:36:51.200 legislation
02:36:52.080 um
02:36:53.980 hey hey frosty
02:37:01.160 b what are you talking about bro
02:37:02.460 way way way more informed
02:37:04.920 what are you informed with
02:37:06.640 huh
02:37:11.420 Oh Amanda Todd
02:37:25.560 Okay
02:37:25.960 So Frosty B
02:37:37.620 Was bringing up the case of Amanda Todd
02:37:39.680 Who I guess is a
02:37:40.740 she killed herself when she was 15 a victim of cyber bullying and you know that I don't know
02:37:48.860 that's that's that's a sad story I don't I don't know I don't know what to say I think the answer
02:37:54.240 though once again is not to just start to control the internet I don't think that's I don't think
02:38:02.380 that's the answer I don't think the answer is hey we're going to now we're going to try to stop
02:38:06.980 every kid from killing themselves by policing all content on the internet i don't think that's the
02:38:13.440 answer i think that's a hysterical answer to sure a real problem i think the i think i kind of have
02:38:20.140 a whole like diatribe probably on this but i think the approach to bullying in general uh sucks
02:38:25.300 because i because they emphasize victimhood they emphasize hey you should feel like a victim you
02:38:32.020 should feel terrible you should feel feel all these things and um to be fair i don't know the
02:38:38.040 whole story of amanda todd because it might have to do with like the revenge porn stuff
02:38:42.660 in which case again you know there might be legitimate uh legislation that could be passed
02:38:51.240 for that the problem is with bill c63 it's being used as a trojan horse to pass a whole bunch of
02:38:58.760 bullshit that is going to be used to politically politically persecute people who have the wrong 0.53
02:39:03.140 opinion because we know who's behind the bill we know whose fingerprints are all over the bill
02:39:07.380 uh and yeah it's the the whole thing of protecting kids is clearly the trojan horse example of it
02:39:15.100 and we're already seeing this by the way mr frosty b in the uk you can look at what's happening in
02:39:20.480 the uk right now and their online harms no what was it online safety act is being employed
02:39:28.480 exactly how i think it will be here which is if you have the wrong opinion about uh you know
02:39:34.080 crime and you post on the internet then you'll get arrested for it so once again like my response
02:39:41.820 to that frosty b would be um don't you think it's disgusting to take a child suicide and
02:39:48.120 and the government using that to justify censoring the internet censoring you
02:39:53.820 like they don't genuinely care about amanda todd they don't genuinely care about this poor woman
02:40:00.940 whose daughter was a victim to a sexual predator they're using these people to gain power that
02:40:08.060 should upset you sure are these are these tragic things that have happened sure but these despicable
02:40:14.860 politicians are using this sad story to take away your rights
02:40:19.980 no not not going to happen on my watch not going to happen but that's a good point to bring up
02:40:27.200 though because that could be a good that could be a good point that people bring up because
02:40:31.180 i i do kind of remember that uh story so so thank you for the for the ammunition there um frosty b
02:40:38.820 i know exactly what's happening in the uk meanwhile you spout inaccurate propaganda
02:40:46.200 okay buddy okay good talk good talk
02:40:55.720 research and consultation with stakeholders with experts with international partners and average
02:41:01.480 canadians who are concerned about the well-being of their families their neighbors and their
02:41:06.680 communities the message that all of those people have sent to us is loud and it is unequivocal
02:41:12.520 doing nothing is not an option they are absolutely right we interesting we have to do something
02:41:23.020 doing nothing is not an option
02:41:26.800 that's pretty good i gotta say it's pretty good rhetoric it's pretty good rhetoric i'm not gonna
02:41:32.620 lie join allies like the united kingdom france germany there you go australia who have also
02:41:39.580 legislated in this area we we need to take away their freedom of spin speech you guys we need to
02:41:46.300 we totally need to learned from their experiences we cannot tolerate anarchy on the internet
02:41:53.420 the cost is too great the safety the mental health and even the lives of our kids and our
02:42:00.300 most vulnerable are at stake i'm confident with the online harms act in law we can build safe
02:42:07.100 online communities where our kids can flourish where illegal hate is contained and where germany
02:42:12.940 australia who have also legislated in this area we have learned from their experiences
02:42:18.620 we cannot tolerate anarchy on the internet the cost is too great the safety the mental health
02:42:25.820 and even the lives of our kids and our most vulnerable are at stake okay the anarchy of
02:42:32.860 the internet is what makes it fun and what makes the internet interesting you know we can't have
02:42:42.180 anarchy on the internet and like that sentence doesn't that sentence only makes sense if you
02:42:53.240 are like a tyrant who is is obsessed with power and control we can't have all this anarchy on the
02:42:59.500 internet there's people calling me fat on the there's people there's someone live streaming
02:43:03.720 about me right now calling me a liberal crook can you believe that we can't have this anarchy
02:43:08.200 it's crazy i'm confident with the online harms act in law we can build safe online communities
02:43:16.640 where our kids can flourish where illegal hate is contained and where citizens can fully engage
02:43:22.440 in rigorous debate without fear of being targeted by threats by violence or by hatred
02:43:28.480 oh there you go there you go so we can't have a real debate until all the right-wing people
02:43:37.400 have been silenced that's pretty well the the translation there the safety the mental health
02:43:44.060 and even the lives of our kids and our most vulnerable are at stake i'm confident with
02:43:50.520 the online harms act in law we can build safe online communities where our kids can flourish
02:43:56.320 where illegal hate is contained and we're illegal hate the illegal hate is contained that's crazy
02:44:04.340 is it legal hate or illegal hate hey i have this is legal hate guys this is legal hate i'm only 0.87
02:44:18.820 disdaining the person i'm not detesting them so stupid um engage in rigorous debate without 0.56
02:44:26.240 fear of being targeted by threats by violence or by hatred yeah this argument is so funny 0.77
02:44:32.700 so the we're going to hear it in a second later but basically this bill is actually for freedom
02:44:39.520 of speech because people can now debate without threats of violence or hatred
02:44:45.020 and that was actually stopping people from debating before i think what's stopping people
02:44:50.600 from debating is uh the political correctness in this in this country it's crazy how people self
02:44:57.420 censor themselves constantly because of political correctness i don't want to rock the boat i don't
02:45:01.820 want to upset anyone that's what's stopping people from debating that like that is by far
02:45:08.980 the much bigger sort of authoritative threat to people to stop them from speaking out it's
02:45:18.520 political correctness not wanting to ruffle any feathers not wanting to upset people that's why
02:45:23.840 people don't debate more in this country but no no it's it's you know what's going to help
02:45:29.540 people debate more once we silence all of the right-wing people we don't like
02:45:33.440 so helping helping translate here i saw a funny comment earlier someone said hey
02:45:41.080 hey greg why aren't you crying because of frosty b's hateful comments that's pretty funny
02:45:46.360 he's just bullying me he disagrees with me i'm just i'm just trying to live my life and he 0.64
02:45:54.680 he doesn't agree with me he's saying that i that i wanted some 15 year old to to kill herself
02:45:59.960 it's horrible he's attacking me no we need we need justin trudeau to to handle this
02:46:09.360 i don't know who this commenter is but he's coming after me and we we just need we need
02:46:14.840 Justin Trudeau to silence him. I don't like him. I don't like him. I don't like him. He makes me
02:46:20.540 feel unsafe. So Justin Trudeau needs to ban his Instagram account. It's the only way. It's the only
02:46:29.020 way. All right, let's keep going. Lots to go through here still. Whoa. This work is just
02:46:39.000 beginning. It is a long path ahead and I have no doubt there will be challenges. But I believe
02:46:44.240 along with the people standing right behind me that this cause is worth it I would be happy to
02:46:49.760 take your questions it's worth it this is just the beginning this is just the beginning yes
02:46:57.220 through the thinking of uh extending the maximum sentence on inciting genocide uh to life in prison
02:47:03.760 is that too much so I love how the first question is like directly into a speech issue that's in
02:47:11.960 this bill that he said nothing at all about really but yeah let's let's hear the let's hear what his
02:47:24.220 answer is what I would say to you is that we put a lot of thought into many aspects of this bill
02:47:28.120 there's a an aspect that deals with the commission that's being created and there's aspects that deal
02:47:32.780 with the criminal law we are creating a new freestanding hate crime offense we are enhancing
02:47:37.820 the penalties as you mentioned for the hate crimes offenses that exist currently and we're also
02:47:42.100 ensuring that a peace bond could be procured for somebody who there's a reasonable likelihood will
02:47:46.420 create a hate crimes offense with respect see it's the questions start and everything he said
02:47:53.840 is like now totally like almost alien to this entire presentation it's just gone straight to
02:48:00.760 there's going to be a hate crime offense another hate crime offense a reasonable likelihood will
02:48:05.220 create a hate crime offense it's like total alien to what he was just talking about presenting the
02:48:10.840 bill now that they get asked kind of a good question uh he's like yeah i know there's a
02:48:15.620 whole bunch of legislation to like silence people basically yeah uh and and while we're you know
02:48:21.520 this is kind of good she talked about call to genocide um for those who don't know from the
02:48:29.840 river to the sea was can is now considered a call for genocide according to b'nai bryth uh canada
02:48:37.040 which is a jewish organization um and this has been picked up by a lot of politicians and like
02:48:42.420 mainstream media so it's like a call to genocide is also like debatable like you can like redefine
02:48:51.860 what occult genocide is and this is obviously important because if a news organization said
02:48:57.800 hey uh they have to go back is it called the genocide if some some fuckhead politician or
02:49:05.260 journalist says that's a call to genocide actually um or like i think we should stop mass migration
02:49:11.760 that's a call to genocide all of a sudden let's say somebody some some jerk off journalist says
02:49:17.780 this uh so wait now i can go to jail for a hundred years for a hundred years saying it out loud is 0.56
02:49:23.800 crazy now i could go to jail for a hundred years for uh for like having this opinion or saying
02:49:30.240 saying these like this simple phrase that really has is not objectively explicitly calling to 0.64
02:49:36.180 genocide but because some jerk-off journalist called it that now it is a call to genocide
02:49:40.840 slippery slope obviously when you get into this stuff it's just like
02:49:45.120 you could drive an entire you couldn't just drive a truck you couldn't drive an entire
02:49:50.560 convoy of trucks through the loopholes in this legislation but let's keep going back to genocide
02:49:57.660 what i know as a lawyer as minister and what i've learned from the stakeholders and the experts whom
02:50:03.140 we have consulted is that there is a determination to demonstrate at the highest level that the
02:50:08.580 maximum penalty for a crime such as advocating or promoting genocide should be increased that
02:50:13.640 penalty as it stands right now when you proceed by way of what's called an indignable offense
02:50:17.620 is five years we are saying that at a maximum that should be elevated to 25 years there will
02:50:22.780 remain a range that's available to the judge that is disposing of the case that is that is a range
02:50:28.420 that it can reach again totally alien to what we were just talking about he's like yeah so
02:50:33.280 for words that you speak with your mouth yeah it's five to 25 years in jail for uh for saying
02:50:39.440 something yeah yeah oh it's protect kids protect kids you know but like we're throwing people in
02:50:43.420 jail for for saying the wrong thing but yeah as high as 25 years it will depend on the context
02:50:49.200 but there's no doubt in my mind particularly now where we are as a country that people who
02:50:54.340 advocate genocide need to understand that that is a very serious matter and that is a matter that
02:50:58.500 could be penalized at the highest level yeah and once again you know when when you have like
02:51:04.260 articles like this flying around of like this this is going to be called genocide now slippery
02:51:09.700 slope if you can if you can redefine what calling the um calling to genocide is that's just a
02:51:15.660 massive loophole right massive loophole but they don't care about this they're power hungry tyrants
02:51:21.240 so how did you determine the 24-hour takedown rule would only be for child sex abuse images
02:51:27.800 as well as a non-consensual sharing of images like how did you kind of arrive that those two
02:51:32.380 were the ones that you keep that in there for yeah so we literally consulted upon this and you
02:51:36.800 and other journalists in this room have asked me. We literally consulted on this. Literally,
02:51:41.960 literally, literally. Minister, where's the bill? You've been working on it for a long time. And
02:51:46.660 you're right. We did work on it for a long time because we had to get it right. So we heard from
02:51:51.020 those extensive consultations over literally years about the different types of content that we need
02:51:56.260 to address. And there were seven in total. And what we heard is that you need to look at
02:52:00.800 international examples. Australia had tried a takedown provision across many types of content.
02:52:05.700 Germany had done that across the board. They've since resiled from that and
02:52:09.360 moderated their position to move to what's called a risk-based analysis.
02:52:13.140 But what we heard is that we need to address certain types of content, but for
02:52:17.340 the two that you mentioned, the issue of child sexual exploitation material and
02:52:21.240 the non-consensual sharing of intimate images, what is known as revenge porn for
02:52:25.560 so that we can be clear with Canadians, is that there's no space, there's no
02:52:29.800 tolerance in the public domain for that kind of material and that kind of
02:52:33.200 material needs to be brought down immediately so uh i think i saw runkle i think his name's
02:52:41.800 ian runkle the uh maybe you've seen him on youtube he's a uh he's a lawyer talks a lot
02:52:46.900 a lot about canadian law and gun rights and stuff but i saw him on a podcast i don't know if he was
02:52:51.960 talking about this specific part of the bill but he was essentially saying you know there could be
02:52:56.580 room in this legislation to just you know let's say even the clip from the toronto pride parade
02:53:04.780 where there's this person exposing their genitals to kids it's part of the parade but like that
02:53:10.240 clip could be considered sexual exploitation towards children and then they would take that
02:53:17.880 down and you know it would be kind of nice to have less of those clips clogging up my conservative
02:53:23.120 twitter feed however what if that clip is like evidence you know what i mean what if it's like
02:53:29.380 evidence of like hey i caught a pedophile doing something horrible in public like we need to
02:53:34.660 identify this guy or arrest this guy or you know this is a piece of evidence that people should
02:53:39.860 know about like look out for this person or like you know just to kind of to proliferate a warning
02:53:45.960 of this is this piece of content is actually evidence and i want to use social media to
02:53:52.140 amplify it technically under this bill it could be actually something that would help suppress
02:53:58.740 that clip suppress uh you know identifying the person or what have you and maybe that sounds
02:54:05.060 like totally out there but it's like when you make legislation you kind of have to account for
02:54:09.520 stuff like this you know when you're making legislation that's going to basically try to
02:54:13.860 control all content on the internet you kind of need to account for uh these loopholes and and
02:54:18.120 and this potentialities, so...
02:54:48.120 No, it's a great project, I understand. There are a lot of details in it.
02:54:53.620 But what we aim to do with this project, is the fact that we need to protect our children.
02:54:59.120 So, the first objective.
02:55:00.120 How do we protect our children?
02:55:02.120 We are going to create a new responsibility in terms of platforms.
02:55:08.120 That means that you have a duty to protect children,
02:55:11.120 an obligation to protect children.
02:55:13.120 Second thing.
02:55:15.120 I'm learning French.
02:55:17.120 In terms of details, it is in the law as such, it is an aspect where we must promote measures to create or manufacture sites or platforms that are appropriate for age, age-appropriate design features.
02:55:34.080 This is a conversation that we must have about how to regulate the Internet. 0.95
02:55:38.940 All right, I can't follow the French. Sorry, guys. Sorry for my francophone listeners. 0.97
02:55:43.800 This doesn't apply to private messages, Discord, Snapchat, WhatsApp, and a lot of AI deepfakes
02:55:52.000 or non-consensual images are shared there.
02:55:55.120 Are you going to miss a lot of this because of that provision?
02:55:59.260 So what I would say to you is that first of all...
02:56:01.000 I fucking hate the journalists in this country.
02:56:03.620 ...respective deepfakes, we thought about this, and in the intervening two or three years
02:56:07.100 when we've been discussing and consulting about this, the emergence of AI has literally
02:56:11.360 come to the forefront showing how dynamic the internet is and what we've
02:56:15.260 done is we've legislated specifically in this in this bill the notion of deep
02:56:20.300 deep fakes being included specifically in the context of intimate intimate
02:56:23.960 images that are being shared without consent for the Canadians that are
02:56:27.120 watching think about what transpired four weeks ago with Taylor Swift it's
02:56:30.860 her head superimposed on a nude body that is the same essence of what we are
02:56:34.580 trying to it to to address we will address that and that is included in the 0.73
02:56:38.580 legislation with respect to your specific wow they're not going to stop porn but like specific
02:56:44.680 types of porn that's ai generated that's like really at the top of our list here um civic
02:56:50.160 question what i would say to you is that we heard about the nature of what had been done in some of
02:56:55.220 those other countries that moved earlier than us on this very issue and what we heard loudly and
02:56:59.740 clearly specifically in the context of the british debate that related to encrypted communications
02:57:04.220 is that they wanted to pierce that that type of communication and and address even that through
02:57:10.520 their online safety bill and they received a lot of negative feedback about the specific challenge
02:57:15.500 that could have for freedom of expression what i you see that's i mean it's worth pointing out
02:57:22.660 like for these legislators and these you know crooks who are basically globalists trying to
02:57:29.800 push an agenda it's all about getting one past the goalie they're trying to get they're trying
02:57:34.480 to get something past the goalie right they're trying to slip in legislation that's going to
02:57:39.360 take our rights away but they need to get it past the goalie as in like they need to like get the
02:57:44.280 public to accept it or not catch up catch on to their tricks and that's basically what he just
02:57:48.960 said here heard about the nature of what had been done in some of those other countries that moved
02:57:54.660 earlier than us on this very issue and what we heard loudly and clearly specifically in the
02:57:59.360 context of the british debate that related to encrypted communications is that they wanted to
02:58:04.020 pierce that uh that type of communication pierce yeah they wanted to rip rip the rights away the
02:58:10.420 privacy of of uk citizens but and and address even that through their online safety bill and they
02:58:17.780 received a lot of negative feedback they received a lot of negative feedback they're like oh shit we
02:58:22.420 can't get away with this we can't take away their rights that much we can't take away their privacy
02:58:27.220 completely so you know they're they caught on to that they saved that one they got a lot of
02:58:33.520 negative feedback and uh you know we're just trying to push past this legislation to take
02:58:37.580 away rights and we can't have that type of negative feedback so uh yeah that's why basically
02:58:43.800 we didn't put that in there because we couldn't get away with it translation we we didn't we
02:58:47.820 didn't put the private communications in there because we knew we could not get away with pushing
02:58:51.840 our tyrannical bullshit uh if we had that in there about the specific challenge that could have
02:58:56.900 for freedom of expression what i would say to canadians that are listening right now
02:59:00.680 is that i have listened our government has listened where we were three years ago to
02:59:05.280 stephanie's question is that we were in a different spot where we thought we would
02:59:08.300 identify categories and have takedowns across the board what we've done is reflected on that 0.82
02:59:12.780 on the critical importance of it oh shit shit whoops fuck hello fuck where the fuck was oh god 0.98
02:59:20.740 damn i'm sorry guys bullshit where the fuck was i i was around ai deep fakes okay heard about the 0.98
02:59:31.280 nature of what had been done in some of those other countries that moved earlier than us is 0.97
02:59:35.880 that we were in a different spot where we thought we would identify categories and have takedowns
02:59:39.780 across the board i mean does this does this sound like protect does this sound like somebody
02:59:46.800 who is trying to protect children for freedom of expression what i would say to canadians that
02:59:51.880 are listening right now is that i have listened our government has listened where we were three
02:59:56.480 years ago to stephanie's question is that we were in a different spot does this sound like somebody
03:00:01.340 who wants to protect children where we thought we would identify categories and have takedowns
03:00:05.860 across the board what we've done is reflected on that on the critical we just thought we were
03:00:10.720 going to take it all down we were just going to like you know censor everything that's what we
03:00:14.160 thought you know we want to just take it all down importance of enhancing freedom of expression
03:00:19.160 and promoting freedom of expression and ensuring that we calibrate this and we are doing this now
03:00:23.740 in a very measured and appropriate manner that addresses the harms as we see them but ensures
03:00:28.780 that canadians private communications will be exempt from this legislation okay that's a good
03:00:34.420 that's a good clip to remember so he just you know i love juxt like making these guys look like
03:00:39.760 idiots they emphasize freedom of expression so much when they're talking bullshit and then they
03:00:49.460 have just like so much of the press conferences like no yeah all these people would go to jail
03:00:53.260 and yeah we're gonna crack down on this and we really can't have a debate unless we censor
03:00:57.640 these people right sorry french microphone sorry
03:01:09.760 is that the Canadian people need to be the most open to life,
03:01:13.900 and you can just clarify.
03:01:18.260 I mean, it comes with a potential penalty of life imprisonment.
03:01:22.700 Could you just clarify for us how that would work?
03:01:25.380 I mean, what kind of offences do you envisage could carry that kind of offence?
03:01:29.280 And are you saying that it's no longer an aggravating factor,
03:01:33.140 that it could be a standalone offence?
03:01:35.740 But could you give us some examples of that?
03:01:37.340 Okay, so in terms of the second part of your question, we're not eliminating the aggravating factor.
03:01:41.060 But what we are doing, it's a little bit easier for me in English,
03:01:43.580 is what we are doing is creating a freestanding hate crimes offense,
03:01:46.760 which touches any possible delict or crime under the Criminal Code of Canada.
03:01:52.120 And I think what is important about it is that it gives...
03:01:55.440 Again, we're protecting kids from online harm,
03:01:59.280 but we're also creating a standalone hate crime offense,
03:02:04.660 which we can glue to any existing crime.
03:02:11.000 Like, that's insane.
03:02:13.260 That's such an insane, huh?
03:02:15.660 You want to protect kids online?
03:02:16.820 Yeah, we want to be able to, like,
03:02:18.000 charge anyone who commits even a minor crime
03:02:20.740 for hate crime as well,
03:02:22.320 where we could just throw them in jail indefinitely.
03:02:24.520 This is about protecting kids.
03:02:25.880 Nothing to do with political persecution.
03:02:27.820 Nothing to do with suppressing political opposition.
03:02:30.180 Although, it's kind of designed perfectly for that,
03:02:33.500 but it has it has nothing nothing to do like there's perfect like loopholes to kind of justify
03:02:38.120 anything we want with anyone anyone we want um to you know throw them in jail indefinitely if we
03:02:43.320 don't like them but uh it's about protecting kids yeah we swear it's about protecting kids
03:02:48.460 the police and it gives prosecutors more flexibility in terms of contemplating this
03:02:54.840 aspect on the front end of their deliberative exercise on the front end of how they will
03:02:59.100 conduct their prosecutions very importantly this does not require ag consent the other hate crimes
03:03:04.740 components promoting genocide uh a willful promotion of hatred things like uh the anti-semitism
03:03:11.160 willful promotion of hatred what the fuck
03:03:16.560 is that actually in the bill that's a that's a really creepy uh phrase um the way that they're 0.73
03:03:25.960 just trying to make it as if like hate is always bad is just crazy like it's it's so anti-human
03:03:31.240 to say that like no one should ever hate anything like that's that's totally insane uh it's a human
03:03:37.380 emotion uh by the way so yeah holocaust denial offense require the attorney general's consent
03:03:43.100 as does the peace bond that i just mentioned this provision is something that can be laid by
03:03:48.320 by a it can be initiated on an arrest warrant by a police officer and continued by the crown
03:03:54.340 absent the consent of me or a provincial attorney general.
03:03:58.220 That is very, very important in terms of giving more tools to law enforcement.
03:04:02.520 But secondly, it's important for denouncing what we are seeing right now.
03:04:06.360 And that is critical.
03:04:07.340 Everything you've just heard from people like Carla.
03:04:10.060 Denouncing what we're seeing right now.
03:04:19.800 Like, that's so crazy.
03:04:22.560 This is so crazy.
03:04:23.560 how like how can he seriously say this is nothing to do with freedom of speech this has nothing to
03:04:30.280 do with any sort of political partisanship uh by the way we need to be denouncing what we're seeing
03:04:35.380 right now it's like it's just bare to see it's like it's just it's so obvious it's so obvious
03:04:43.160 you you slipped up here man that's that's a that's a easy gotcha everything that i have heard
03:04:48.100 over the last year is that hate is on the rise in this country we need to be providing more
03:04:53.180 tools not less to denounce the hatred that we are seeing and this will do exactly that wow wow wow
03:04:59.260 wow let's see it's about stopping hatred there it is stopping hate you need to stop hate you guys
03:05:07.020 that's a good clip 36 40. look at the body language here too look at the butt like he got
03:05:16.140 really riled up here he's very animated he's very everything that i have heard over the last year is
03:05:23.180 He's tilted.
03:05:24.120 He's a little bit tilted.
03:05:25.240 He's getting pressed on this.
03:05:27.180 He's agitated.
03:05:28.340 He's hostile.
03:05:29.100 He's hostile.
03:05:30.160 Okay, it's about hatred.
03:05:31.500 And he even scratches.
03:05:33.700 Oof.
03:05:38.000 This guy does not have good intentions, let me tell you.
03:05:50.080 Seth O's Elkin says,
03:05:51.500 hate naturally blinds reason so not allowing hatred to direct actions is the key like we are
03:05:56.320 told to pray for our enemies yeah i mean i i do i agree with the sentiment of that um like on a
03:06:04.260 personal level yeah we should not be possessed by hatred we should not be possessed by resentment
03:06:10.000 and we should not be possessed by fear uh but the point i'm trying to make and that's important to
03:06:16.820 this discussion is people get angry people hate people get hungry people eat you know what i mean
03:06:29.200 like it's it's very um it's a very basic human thing and on a personal level yeah no you shouldn't
03:06:38.840 you shouldn't dwell in anger you shouldn't dwell in hatred because you're right it does get
03:06:44.560 blinding and it can lead to to awful things i totally agree with that what i disagree with
03:06:51.140 is this idea once again that the government is going to police our emotions they're going to
03:06:57.380 say no you can't feel that way oh no you voiced you expressed that that is considered hate and
03:07:03.740 that is now now you're a criminal um because you know it has to do with the whole like mind control
03:07:10.180 stuff or like you know the thought control stuff like okay well i can't say that because that's
03:07:13.880 offensive. And now you're not even like expressing what you hate. And if you don't express what you
03:07:18.940 hate, you're not really, you're not even really identifying with yourself. You're not even really
03:07:22.760 defining yourself because hatred is actually really important to defining who you are. For
03:07:28.280 example, if your life is not going in the direction that you like it to, let's just say, let's just
03:07:32.860 say you're like, you're, you're very upset with where you are in life for one reason or another.
03:07:37.700 Maybe a relationship didn't go well. Maybe you don't like your job trajectory. Maybe you're in
03:07:42.020 crappy relationship. Maybe you're in a living situation that you don't like and you hate
03:07:48.980 yourself for it. You hate the situation that you're in. Or maybe you hate the person you're
03:07:53.000 with. Or maybe you hate your roommate. And maybe that hatred for your roommate is actually supposed
03:07:56.700 to be directed for you. The point is that hatred is a roadmap. That hatred is a roadmap for what
03:08:06.740 your values are if you hate the relationship you're in because the person doesn't respect you
03:08:12.980 that means you value uh yourself and you value a partner who's going to be more respectful of you
03:08:20.680 you only figure that out because you hated the situation hate is a very uh informative emotion
03:08:31.200 it tells us a lot about ourselves about our situation about what we like what we don't like
03:08:35.540 and yeah i think it was kanye west who basically said like you know you really can bond over bond
03:08:42.980 with someone over a shared like hatred of something and i know that's like messed up to
03:08:46.720 say but again it's not so much about like yeah let's hate that thing but it's more like oh i
03:08:50.580 hate that too we have the same values right and i gotta say i just totally reject this idea that
03:08:56.960 we need to walk on eggshells to like not hate anything you know when you grow up and you have 0.50
03:09:00.580 an annoying brother or sister or like an annoying friend oh i hate that person oh i i hate this game
03:09:06.360 oh i hate having to wait for ice cream whatever it is i hate having to you know it's although it
03:09:12.040 seems like silly to bring that up it's also like it's again it's part of the human experience 0.88
03:09:15.920 sometimes when someone cuts you in line you're like i fucking hate this person you're not gonna
03:09:21.340 like you know try to genocide them but like in that moment you're like man that really 0.61
03:09:25.940 fucking pisses me off right um and it's important to address this because you know the human 0.65
03:09:32.360 experience it's it's a lot it's varied sometimes you say this sometimes you feel that way sometimes
03:09:37.120 you post this sometimes you say that and you know our lives are increasingly online so we should be
03:09:41.440 able to express ourselves this legislation is basically saying no hatred no you're not allowed
03:09:47.320 to hate anything hatred as a whole is bad oh you you don't like the way that the government is 0.51
03:09:52.320 running things and you hate us yeah that's a little you're you're you're uh you're a terrorist
03:09:56.760 now we basically already saw this already play out here in canada um but yeah it's obviously
03:10:03.100 tyrannical tyrannical uh ambitions from this guy let's keep going hate is on the rise more tools
03:10:11.280 not less to denounce the hatred that we are seeing and this will do exactly that and that that
03:10:16.560 probably is once again the sort of uh that's the whole premise that's the whole thesis that's
03:10:22.280 the whole purpose of this bill it's it's tools to control hate we need more tools to control the
03:10:28.360 hate in canada people are calling out our shitty government we need tools to uh throw these people
03:10:35.160 in jail and shut them the fuck up because they're making us look bad there it is in a nutshell
03:10:39.580 i'd like to understand how you envision setting up this new digital services office ombudsman
03:10:46.220 commission and keeping the partisanship out of it because i you know some critics will
03:10:50.480 automatically say well this is the government the government gets to pick
03:10:53.600 who's going to be it's going to be David Johnston the special rapporteur all over
03:10:56.900 again what are you going to do to forestall that and deal with keeping
03:11:00.200 partisanship out of this no thank you Stephanie for the question I think it's
03:11:03.140 important so it's a digital safety Commission it's a digital ombudsperson
03:11:06.380 and it's a digital safety office so there's three sort of components here
03:11:09.020 but what's really critical is that they're going to have expertise they're
03:11:11.780 gonna be able to deal with this in a dynamic manner the internet is
03:11:14.240 constantly changing but very importantly to your point I know that we need to
03:11:18.540 both establish this but we need to have Canadians confident in how it's going to
03:11:22.380 work on the ground and what we've specifically entrenched in the bill
03:11:25.380 itself I'd urge you to look at it closely is that the chair of that
03:11:28.800 Commission the head digital safety commissioner of Canada will be decided
03:11:32.520 in the chamber that is right below us it'll be voted on in Parliament in the
03:11:36.120 House of Commons and in the Senate we want Canadians through the
03:11:38.920 representatives to have a say on who that person is to have confidence in
03:11:42.320 their ability to execute that function it is a critical function I appreciate that
03:11:46.140 we are being very careful and measured in how we are approaching this and how we are working to
03:11:50.300 ensure Canadians confidence in that if there are other measures that work towards enhancing
03:11:54.900 Canadians confidence in this institution that's being hold on hold that's hilarious that is
03:11:59.500 hilarious that was a really good question she says how do you know this isn't going to be
03:12:03.820 politically partisan and then Arif gives this long-winded answer long-winded of like don't
03:12:10.340 worry we're going to elect somebody in parliament we know they're going to be a stand-up guy who's
03:12:15.140 not going to be politically partisan at all when has there ever been political partisanship in the
03:12:19.840 parliament buildings right cbc we totally agree with you a reef yes we will do whatever you say
03:12:28.300 because you pay our bills what about you ctv we agree with everything you say absolutely a reef
03:12:33.360 because you pay our bills it's like never like like wow uh to his credit he did a good job at
03:12:40.860 like making it long-winded and make you know do pulling a trudeau and making it's like deflecting
03:12:44.780 the question and basically making it sound like a good thing that uh the people in the parliament
03:12:49.560 are gonna elect somebody uh fair and not politically partisan okay yeah it's funny
03:12:56.960 created i hope that comes out in the parliamentary debates in the committee study in the senate's work
03:13:02.080 on this bill it is critical that we get this right and ensure that confidence minister is this this
03:13:06.940 new standalone hate crime uh crime uh is that enough does there need to be more help for law
03:13:13.060 and more support for law enforcement hold on i gotta read this now uh-oh i thought he was laughing
03:13:19.060 at rabbi schmuley's comment uh-oh we have rabbi schmuley in chat i hope i'm not going on a wild
03:13:29.100 goose chase here rabbi shmuley i don't see a rabbi shmuley what happened guys come on
03:13:42.780 i want to see the funny comment where is it
03:13:52.380 arif looks like he is persistently testing rabbi shmuley's latest product line
03:13:59.100 I don't even want to know what that is.
03:14:01.480 Is it a butt plug?
03:14:03.780 Uh-oh.
03:14:05.920 Now we need to know.
03:14:17.140 Wow.
03:14:18.820 Surprised nothing came up there.
03:14:22.220 Just a moment, guys.
03:14:23.540 We're looking up butt plugs right now.
03:14:29.100 oh no
03:14:31.400 you guys
03:14:34.700 make love and war
03:14:38.560 Rabbi Shmuley Bo
03:14:40.540 Teach chairman of the family owned company
03:14:42.620 Kosher Sex has just
03:14:44.640 announced the release of his company's latest product
03:14:46.460 a lubricant that is not only kosher but also made
03:14:48.620 in Israel
03:14:49.100 well thanks guys
03:14:52.160 thanks guys you're bullying
03:14:54.340 justice minister Arif Farhani
03:14:56.540 implying that he's using lubricant
03:14:58.480 you're sexualizing him this is hatred you should all go to jail i'm going to anonymously
03:15:04.480 report all of you for making this joke so we can stop the hatred online i can't believe you
03:15:13.520 the internet was so safe until you guys said that this is not this is not the internet community
03:15:19.900 that i want how dare you make comments and jokes and about elected officials yeah
03:15:27.900 um if there's another product other than uh kosher lube you guys made me look up kosher
03:15:37.540 lube on stream congratulations i hope you're happy with yourselves but um if there's another
03:15:44.100 product i'm good i don't need to look up the other product it's fine i'm sure something tells
03:15:49.820 me rabbi schmuley might have something up his sleeve uh anyway we're almost through it we're
03:15:55.220 almost done let's get through this meant to tackle this sort of thing I think we
03:16:00.560 always need to ensure law enforcement has the assistance to do this there's a
03:16:03.260 person behind me Mohammed Hashim who's right here on the right and he's been
03:16:06.140 doing incredible relations foundation Canadian race relations foundation this
03:16:12.800 is a this is a good a decent gotcha as well because this guy has a pretty
03:16:17.480 interesting history. Just give me a second here. Muhammad Hashim. There he is. He's the CEO of the
03:16:39.220 Canadian Race Relations Foundation, Danforth Shooting.
03:16:48.240 So this is the same guy right here.
03:16:53.760 I'll move my head a little bit.
03:16:56.100 Right here.
03:16:56.780 This is Mohamed Hashim.
03:17:03.280 And this is an article from Toronto Sun from 2018 Fury.
03:17:07.280 meet the spin doctor behind the
03:17:09.360 Hassan family statement
03:17:10.640 so after the Danforth
03:17:13.760 shooting and for
03:17:15.580 those who don't know the Danforth shooting is like a very
03:17:17.540 scandalous sort of
03:17:18.800 easily could call it a terrorist attack the shooter
03:17:21.580 was associated with more like extremist
03:17:23.660 mosques and
03:17:24.760 his the cousin of the shooter
03:17:27.560 had like
03:17:29.580 a
03:17:30.140 stockpile of carfentanil
03:17:33.500 I guess it's not in this article
03:17:35.580 i guess it's not in this article that's weird it should be come on toronto son but um yeah
03:17:44.820 there's a lot of nefarious connections with the uh with the danforth shooter and the major spin
03:17:53.520 doctor behind it was this guy at the canadian race relations foundation and the whole narrative
03:17:57.980 was wrote a loss for words he was very there's violence severe mental health challenges it was
03:18:05.500 it was a mental health thing guys it was a mental health thing pay no attention to uh you know the
03:18:11.320 extremist mosque that he associated with pay no attention to his cousin who had a stockpile of
03:18:16.000 carfentanil enough to kill like millions of people because carfentanil is like one of the most deadly
03:18:20.140 chemicals um but yeah so this is the guy this spin doctor of the danforth shooting who basically
03:18:29.560 you know disconnected the dots between you know fomenting hatred and violence and all that stuff
03:18:36.280 um that's the guy who's going to keep us safe yeah i'm sure he's not biased at all right
03:18:43.040 i'm sure he doesn't have a an ideological agenda so on just laying out what constitutes a hate
03:18:51.340 crime there are hate crimes units among certain police forces in this country in my view there
03:18:56.240 are not enough not enough hate crimes units you heard them we need more hate crime units
03:19:02.340 hate crime units i gotta do more research on that too i'm guessing that's what happened to the woman
03:19:10.200 in uh in uh osaga beach right hate crimes hate crime unit knocked on her door hey don't talk
03:19:21.400 about immigrants don't don't bring up race you can talk about the tents but just don't don't
03:19:25.460 talk about this i'm a hate crime unit police officer i'm going to tell you what to say on
03:19:28.980 social media what is critical in this legislation is that we are also entrenching a definition
03:19:33.280 of hatred which is critical people say to me well minister verani where that definition come from
03:19:37.680 is that some of you guys just developed behind closed doors categorically not that definition
03:19:42.240 of what is hatred what arises to the level of hatred comes from supreme court jurisprudence
03:19:47.780 that dates back to 2013 in cases before it the supreme canada is so cooked guys because like
03:19:54.360 this is this is one of the craziest parts about uh this bill um or how they're justifying it
03:20:01.440 it's like there's literally a supreme court president set of some some case that'll have
03:20:08.480 to look up but essentially it's um well you'll hear it in a second here but but they they have
03:20:14.060 supreme court like logic operating on this bill to expand the definition of criminal hate or
03:20:20.400 illegal hate to mean detestation and vilification which is crazy of what is hatred what arises to
03:20:26.940 the level of hatred comes from supreme court jurisprudence that dates back to 2013 and cases
03:20:31.540 before it the supreme court has outlined that what we were talking about is detestation and
03:20:35.760 vilification of a person or a group detestation and vilification of a group yo yo yo are you guys
03:20:43.180 up here on your hatred you got to get up here you got to get up to my level of the detestation and
03:20:47.660 the vilification are you up here on my are you on my level bro you're you're like over here just
03:20:53.900 like detesting the government just like sorry just disdaining the government maybe you're
03:20:59.500 humiliating the government but i'm up here bro i'm up here detesting and vilifying the government
03:21:05.360 that's where i'm up i'm up i'm at the cool level i'm like raising the roof on the hatred
03:21:10.420 detestation vilification raise your hands get up let's go oh yeah
03:21:17.600 we are not talking about stuff that some people call awful but lawful there will still be
03:21:25.060 humiliating comments there will still be offensive comments insults expressions of disdain and 0.86
03:21:30.400 dislike this is this is so dumb like this is honestly so stupid he's making it seem like 0.89
03:21:37.400 it's like simple to categorize what's an insult and what's not uh like if i call you a villain 0.92
03:21:45.300 arif that's an insult that's also vilification so which is it am i going to jail for 25 years
03:21:52.460 five years or zero you know it's like he makes it seem like it's so easy to like define oh it's a
03:21:58.260 very simple cookie cutter no it's not no it's not and this speaks to the total absurdity of this law
03:22:05.080 of why you could just drive a truck
03:22:06.580 through all the loopholes in it.
03:22:08.500 And it's going to amount to political persecution.
03:22:11.840 They're going to be able to decide
03:22:12.860 what we think is hate, criminal hate, illegal hate,
03:22:16.520 what's up here.
03:22:18.100 And I don't know, that stuff's okay.
03:22:20.500 It's so subjective, but don't worry.
03:22:24.200 The Canadian liberal government
03:22:25.340 and our ombudsperson elected by public officials
03:22:28.220 will decide if it's hatred or not.
03:22:30.880 Oh, wow, look at all that.
03:22:31.920 All the right-wingers are in jail now.
03:22:33.280 What do you know?
03:22:33.760 Oh, my God.
03:22:35.080 There's a lot of stuff that is out there that will remain out there.
03:22:38.180 But when people arise to the level of detestation and vilification,
03:22:41.640 law enforcement, and they asked me for this
03:22:43.300 when I was consulting on this literally three and a half years ago
03:22:45.920 as David Lamedy's parliamentary secretary,
03:22:47.840 they said we need clarity on the definition
03:22:50.000 as well as some of the things that you're asking,
03:22:52.760 that you're putting on the table.
03:22:54.140 But there is no clarity, Arif.
03:22:55.800 There is no clarity.
03:22:57.880 Who's got the meme?
03:22:59.160 Who's got the meme?
03:22:59.900 I want to show the meme.
03:23:00.900 I don't know if it was Lee Stewie.
03:23:02.660 Shout out to Lee Stewie,
03:23:03.500 but she's been making some memes about bill c63 and she made this whole like uh disdain not um
03:23:11.480 come on can i find it
03:23:13.200 let's see how long it takes me to find it come on
03:23:20.460 Oh, man, come on.
03:23:50.460 Come on.
03:23:57.220 We really need a consistent hashtag here, guys.
03:24:03.180 Man, I can't find it.
03:24:04.360 I can't find it. 1.00
03:24:05.080 But she makes a whole spectrum of like, this is detestation and vilification.
03:24:10.240 This is disdain. 0.97
03:24:11.180 This is like irritated.
03:24:12.620 This is like, I'm not liking it.
03:24:17.020 It's not clear at all.
03:24:18.620 It's not clear at all.
03:24:19.640 it's like we're going to we're going to you know it's like it's like saying hey we're going to
03:24:23.080 decide who's autistic and who's not it's very simple it's like no everyone's on the autism
03:24:26.980 spectrum okay some people are way more autistic some people are sort of autistic but the lines
03:24:33.000 are blurry same with hatred okay same with disdain or dislike or you know like the implication that 0.64
03:24:41.100 there's a clear line between when you start to detest and vilify somebody is crazy like that
03:24:47.800 that the law is going to define an explicit line.
03:24:52.400 There's a reason freedom of speech has been the way it is for,
03:24:55.640 for decades and decades,
03:24:57.060 especially when it comes to this topic and the line that every Western
03:25:01.020 country has decided on.
03:25:02.080 It's like,
03:25:02.300 well,
03:25:03.060 you can't say that you're going to kill somebody.
03:25:04.880 You can't encourage people to kill a group of people.
03:25:07.400 That's been the line for a long time.
03:25:09.680 And now they want to expand the line to like detest and vilify.
03:25:12.380 It's crazy,
03:25:12.980 crazy.
03:25:13.440 It's obviously going to be used against dissidents,
03:25:15.160 but it's not going to pass because we're going to save free speech let's get through this what
03:25:20.220 they also said to me is that prosecutions take time so i'm being very candid with you there are
03:25:25.060 people that will pursue that criminal remedy but for some people some of the people that are right
03:25:29.200 behind me like jane who you just spoke to what they want is for the material to just come down
03:25:34.000 right they just want that stuff off of the internet what we are doing is at the same time
03:25:38.620 we are addressing canada human rights act tools criminal code tools and tools through the new
03:25:43.800 new digital safety commission that will help get this material out of public circulation which is
03:25:48.040 desperately what people need especially our children this is crazy just like tools tools
03:25:54.560 we need more tools we're going to take it off the internet we're going to arrest them we're going to
03:25:58.700 it's going to be great honestly we're going to have so much power to basically control uh control
03:26:03.280 people's thoughts all the time oh no at least stewie said she got a justin trudeau ad before
03:26:09.960 the stream. That is horrible. Why are they playing ads right now? Ads for what?
03:26:15.780 The code criminel, it will always be possible to make a decision of content that is not
03:26:21.860 a content that forms of content that you're going to use.
03:26:27.860 You've removed hate speech as one of the categories of content. So to Stephanie's point, how are
03:26:32.920 you going to be, you're not going to be regulating that because you've just taken it out of the
03:26:37.280 seven categories of of content that you're going to be regulating social media companies to so
03:26:42.160 what i'd say to you is that there are seven categories across the board that constitute
03:26:46.080 harmful content that is incorrect content hate speech this is just dumb she wasn't listening
03:26:51.840 hate speech is on them one of them is uh fomenting hatred where is it inciting violence and terrorism
03:27:00.080 and then inciting hatred and fomentation it foments hatred is one of the seven categories
03:27:04.640 okay but to but to your point you're not taking them down it's not one of these these journalists
03:27:09.200 man you can you i hate to say it but you know it's like a white liberal woman talking right now
03:27:15.200 but you're not going to take the hate speech down quick enough i'm a ctv news reporter of course i
03:27:20.640 am you take down provisions that is correct but there are still aspects that empower users i'll
03:27:26.000 give you some of them okay if you are affected by what you think is content that is fomenting hatred
03:27:31.120 that meets that definition what you can do is you can flag that content to the platform one route
03:27:36.560 you can already do that you can already do that arif you can already flag anything
03:27:43.760 basically on any platform for example where is it where where are we right now let's go
03:27:49.840 report right there it's right there arif it's right there report i can report this video
03:27:56.960 uh let's see harmful and dangerous definitely
03:28:02.660 um but you get the idea let's see what else we can find i'm sure we could find lots
03:28:11.480 okay i was just searching lee stewie stuff uh let's see this post is not helpful uh
03:28:23.000 report i can report the post i could say it's hate abuse violent child safety grooming wow
03:28:34.840 it's almost like this stuff is already here on the internet arif it's almost like it's already
03:28:41.900 here isn't that crazy guys we need to tell arif about this arif it's okay this already exists on
03:28:52.040 the internet if you didn't know that let's go to facebook okay here's a post by jeremy mckenzie
03:29:02.140 save post embed hide unfollow report wow there's a report thing on facebook too that's crazy ah
03:29:13.460 that's crazy guys we need to let a reef know that that uh how do i explain this um that big tech 0.81
03:29:21.940 already fucking does this you can already report stuff for all of the things that you've been that 0.91
03:29:28.620 you've been yammering on about it's already there it's already there oh but they're but they're just 0.92
03:29:34.540 big bad tech companies right they're just they're just big back big bad tech companies that just
03:29:40.800 want to take our money oh no actually oh what's that they've already hired hundreds of people
03:29:45.940 to address all of the things that you're concerned about and you're acting like that doesn't even
03:29:50.100 exist oh but you were working for years you were working for years on this legislation
03:29:55.560 but you don't know and you don't know you don't know anything you don't know anything
03:29:59.540 about how the internet and big tech already operates it's almost like you're ignoring
03:30:05.760 all of that because you have authoritarian tyrannical intentions wow crazy imagine that
03:30:13.160 imagine that second route is you can flag that content to the digital services commissioner
03:30:19.120 Oh, great. We're going to have another thing to flag to, the Digital Services Commissioner.
03:30:24.140 We're going to have our own Canadian tattletales. Isn't that fantastic?
03:30:28.240 So the VeggieTales, we got tattletales here in Canada.
03:30:31.580 And seek some response from the platform.
03:30:34.500 The third route is that the platform pursuant to this legislation is going to implement a digital safety plan
03:30:39.720 that talks about risks that are out there, what we're doing to reduce those risks,
03:30:43.600 and they're going to be held accountable for what they are doing or not doing to hold.
03:30:49.120 I like what Greg says
03:30:54.480 but his people are censoring free speech here
03:30:56.780 ironic I still like you guys but I appreciate
03:30:58.760 what you're doing isn't that a double standard
03:31:00.940 so
03:31:01.760 here's the thing
03:31:03.460 that's a fair enough comment
03:31:05.960 if I were to just constantly
03:31:12.980 be talking about
03:31:14.240 I don't know
03:31:15.700 what's the kind of
03:31:18.840 out there topic if i was constantly talking about like flat earth or talking about like
03:31:24.300 jewish power like all the time and kind of saying like hey like look at all this and like you know
03:31:31.720 the greatest story ever told or never told and and you know europa and like i was talking about 0.82
03:31:36.860 that all the time um it would make it really easy for my political enemies to try and like
03:31:43.100 completely sidetrack and completely sideline and kind of just blow up and just try and destroy my
03:31:48.480 reputation and uh make safe free speech look like a joke or something like this right uh so we do
03:31:54.900 need to employ some amount of strategy um because yeah you bring up a good point like you know i've
03:32:02.520 i i don't i don't want uh offensive comments in my chat preferably because it just makes me look
03:32:08.960 bad and then by virtue of that it makes the campaign of saving free speech look bad um and
03:32:14.860 that's going to be bad because we're not going to achieve our goals so you know like this whole
03:32:22.320 like free speech of like hey like you won't let me say what oh by the way what i should say first
03:32:26.120 and foremost uh youtube automatically censors a bunch of comments um i don't i have some control
03:32:32.780 over that but like i haven't gone into all the stuff i'm just kind of too preoccupied with other
03:32:37.700 things to look into this but like youtube will flag certain words already and it won't show up
03:32:43.720 and chat that's not me doing that that's that's a youtube already automatically doing that and if a
03:32:49.260 if a moderator takes away your comment it's because of what i just mentioned it's like okay
03:32:53.800 like this probably isn't a great look for what we're trying to do here which is to stop free
03:32:58.200 speech or stop free to save free speech um you know it's like in another way it's like it's not
03:33:05.160 really the time to be a free speech absolutist i will surely defend that when it comes up like
03:33:11.540 in a debate or in a discussion but it's like this needs to be something that appeals to like
03:33:17.020 every canadian which is like this is a tyrannical government trying to take our rights like let's
03:33:21.560 focus on that let's focus on that all right um but yeah youtube automatically censors stuff
03:33:29.720 without even me knowing um and i just i just you know it's like way too much time to look into all
03:33:34.960 that but um so yeah and the other thing too is like you know you said oh isn't that a double
03:33:42.220 standard here's the thing like as a political dissident as a right-wing person i don't really
03:33:49.340 have the sort of like institutional power to like enforce uh what i would want as free speech or
03:33:56.700 illegal speech whereas right now you know the far left is trying to gain that power to silence
03:34:02.880 people you know like like let's look at the context and the situation we're in right now
03:34:06.960 you know like the the institutional power of the canadian government censoring people they don't
03:34:13.160 like that's real and might happen with bill c63 me like censoring a youtube comment that you know
03:34:20.640 is a little kooky or something that's like that's not at all the same okay that's not at all even
03:34:27.460 close i can't throw anyone in jail okay like okay a youtube comment wasn't seen to the people
03:34:34.980 watching like you know not to be not to be like dismissive of your concern here but it's like
03:34:40.380 it's kind of not a comparison at all it's it's it doesn't hold the candle to the gravity of the
03:34:46.200 situation we're dealing with with bill c63 i i do appreciate you you know you know calling out
03:34:51.400 hypocrisy and not all that type of thing but uh yeah to reduce those risks themselves if there
03:34:56.840 a situation where they're not abiding by the rules that they have set up for themselves,
03:35:00.600 they can be subjected to penalties and the penalties are significant. You heard me just
03:35:04.200 touch on this in my comments. Those penalties touch as high as 6% of global revenue or $10
03:35:11.320 million, whichever is higher. That is a significant message to the platforms in Canada that their
03:35:16.520 profit imperative solely cannot drive what is happening in Canada any longer. Safety has to
03:35:21.720 be part of the equation and we will ensure it is through penalties of that nature. Thank you very
03:35:25.720 much there it is there it is a reefer ronnie wow we got through it folks we got through it um
03:35:35.740 well that was a lot of good that was good research that was good research i think we
03:35:40.020 went through a lot those we went through the best arguments for bill c63 and uh we got a lot of
03:35:48.600 gotchas on mr arifa ronnie as well it's so it's i brought it up already but like it's like
03:35:55.520 the introduction to the bill was so alien compared to what the actual questions were
03:36:00.760 like because the interaction of the bill made it seem like yeah this is about protecting kids and
03:36:05.320 then the second half of the questions was like yeah we need more tools to police hate uh yeah
03:36:09.840 we're gonna be able to throw people in jail and do this that and the other and it's like whoa um
03:36:14.600 are we talking about the same thing here is this are we is this the same thing uh i don't know if
03:36:20.680 is the same thing or not uh not sure not sure but uh in a second here i um it's getting pretty late
03:36:30.440 but i i will kind of show you a teaser of this song the critical race theory song
03:36:35.980 but uh if you're tuning in and and you're excited about saving free speech you want to support
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03:36:57.880 all about exposing the people
03:37:00.020 behind Bill C-63
03:37:01.400 and we're going to try to make this as big
03:37:04.100 of a success as possible
03:37:06.120 because
03:37:07.840 not only are we going to expose that
03:37:10.260 this bill is not about protecting
03:37:11.980 kids but we're going to expose what it's truly
03:37:13.900 about and it has to do with
03:37:15.560 tyranny it has to do with
03:37:17.620 you know oppressing and suppressing political opposition like all the you know all the bad
03:37:22.620 things that they talk about in history and we saw a little taste of that during the trucker convoy
03:37:26.800 this bill would be like arguably the biggest major legislative step to impose
03:37:34.880 authoritarian rule authoritarian speech laws in canada i think that's fair to say you know i'm
03:37:43.660 not a lawyer but based on everything i've seen i'm pretty sure it's really easy to say that
03:37:49.480 i'm pretty confident i'm actually i should write this down because i think that's that's actually
03:37:55.860 a good way to phrase it and uh i think lawyers would actually agree with me that that if this
03:38:01.120 passes this would be like the biggest step in an authoritarian direction uh in terms of speech laws
03:38:10.900 in canada quote quote me on it clip me on it i don't know i don't know but uh i do want to bring
03:38:18.160 something else up real quick here because i talked about it earlier
03:38:21.580 here it is here it is here it is
03:38:33.620 this is from lee stewie the digital safety advisory hate level detests ding ding severe
03:38:41.740 risk of hate posting disdains high risk of hate posting humiliates significant risk of hate
03:38:48.020 posting dislikes general risk of hate posting offends low risk of hate posting yep yeah it's
03:38:55.400 really clear a reef this is totally clear the line between detests and disdains is totally clear
03:39:01.920 uh not it's totally subjective obviously oh that's maybe that's a that's a that's a great
03:39:09.700 way that's another good point good point lee good sdb likes it here we go all right amazing
03:39:15.500 raging against machine that's some nice riff thanks daryl scurred um yeah thanks again for
03:39:22.600 tuning in guys um i had a lot of fun i had a lot of fun tonight you know what i've been streaming
03:39:28.420 for like almost four hours now but it's good i wanted to i feel like we generated more ideas
03:39:33.900 than i would have alone you know what i mean and that's kind of what i want to do i want to keep
03:39:38.160 the streams coming more content maybe it'll be easier to clip them maybe um you know maybe i'll
03:39:45.440 stumble upon better ideas or better arguments that we can make and put in a video for save
03:39:49.720 free speech.ca and yeah i know i guys i'm if you haven't noticed yet i'm gonna be a broken record
03:39:56.640 I'm going to be talking about
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03:39:59.600 It's a website I'm putting all my effort into this baby
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03:40:55.140 I just think it makes more sense
03:40:56.400 There's already a following here
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03:41:19.140 I'm hoping it's going to be like a have a cultural impact as well, because in a way it's almost attacking the heart of political correctness.
03:41:28.400 You know, this bullshit political correctness that we hate that we hate.
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03:42:01.040 uh yeah um well yeah i mean it's yeah that's great that's a great that's a great note to end on 0.66
03:42:10.280 Thank you bro
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03:42:30.800 Shill promote here
03:42:32.180 Is
03:42:34.600 The Instagram
03:42:35.600 The Instagram is
03:42:38.840 what is it again i think it's the whole website
03:42:42.440 instagram's so weird for that
03:42:46.820 um yeah so we also have an instagram and it's literally just savefreespeech.ca that's the
03:42:54.880 actual handle so if you if you search on instagram savefreespeech.ca uh that'll come up
03:43:01.800 and uh yeah this is you know if you guys are thinking oh this is hey like you know why isn't
03:43:08.700 it bigger yet why isn't it bigger yet this is just the beginning okay this is just the beginning
03:43:12.360 it's the off season it's august really hoping things are going to pick up in a couple weeks
03:43:19.180 because we should have some some very very powerful and important content coming out
03:43:23.280 in september people are coming back from vacation after labor day and that's when i want to really
03:43:27.300 boom boom hit it hard hit it hard let people know about safe free speech and uh you know get the
03:43:32.860 pressure up get the pressure on and there's going to be a lot of updates the website's going to get
03:43:37.000 much better and there's going to be stuff that um is going to be i i like to say more normie
03:43:45.240 friendly it's going to be stuff that's more like just explaining the bill just explaining why
03:43:51.840 this isn't about protecting kids like like very kind of simple entertaining and informative
03:43:58.720 videos that's like oh i could actually send this to my you know a political friend right that's
03:44:04.280 kind of the goal that's the goal to have content that is easy to share easy to understand and
03:44:11.580 gets people aware of what's going on and moving in the right direction so that's what i'm gonna
03:44:16.820 be spending my time on that's gonna what i'm gonna be spending my time working on so appreciate all
03:44:23.380 you for tuning in and uh we can do it we can save free speech we can do it i think we can actually
03:44:30.280 do it i'm happy to be doing more streams like this to like you know do more community stuff
03:44:35.180 bringing people into the fold because i think we need more of that um because we can't do it alone
03:44:41.580 you know we need to team up we need to we need to build this we need to build this out and make this
03:44:45.760 work so yeah guys thanks again for watching and uh tuning in if uh oh i guess finally if if you
03:44:57.720 if you want to like
03:44:58.820 if you know the woman
03:45:01.600 who was visited by the police
03:45:04.160 try to get her in touch with me
03:45:06.300 I would love to interview her
03:45:07.860 and talk to her
03:45:08.480 and
03:45:09.620 yeah or any
03:45:12.060 or any of the lawyers on YouTube
03:45:13.320 I would love to talk to them as well
03:45:15.260 I need to get some freedom fighters
03:45:18.140 on here too though
03:45:18.880 interviewing them about this
03:45:20.120 because
03:45:21.500 yeah
03:45:23.360 oh Schmidhaus podcast is live
03:45:26.600 all right cool well i'm gonna wrap it up i'm really hungry thanks again for tuning in
03:45:33.280 love you guys savefreespeech.ca give send go.com slash save free speech um i'm gonna be talking
03:45:42.460 about this a lot for the next few months and i'm hoping that we can make a change make a difference
03:45:47.000 thanks a lot for watching and i will talk to you guys later
03:45:56.600 You