Greg Wycliffe - LIVE with Jeremy Mackenzie Free on Bail

00:00:00.000 We are live.

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00:00:03.080 Okay, today, the person I'm interviewing needs no introduction,

00:00:08.420 but I'm going to give him a flattering introduction anyway.

00:00:11.800 Jeremy McKenzie is a Canadian veteran.

00:00:14.360 14 years, did two tours in Afghanistan.

00:00:18.240 Just one.

00:00:18.900 Just one.

00:00:19.680 Oh, sorry.

00:00:20.800 One tour in Afghanistan and achieved the rank of Master Corporal

00:00:24.000 in the Canadian Armed Forces.

00:00:25.720 Since retiring, Jeremy has become a successful podcaster

00:00:29.640 and as he calls it a sit-down comedian um he has garnered hundreds of thousands of downloads

00:00:35.340 on his podcast and he's amongst the top political pod podcasts downloaded here in canada so without

00:00:43.100 further ado and for the first time live i think on the internet since um being in jail in saskatchewan

00:00:49.920 i give you jeremy mckenzie ladies and gentlemen hi greg hi i'm good man how are you uh i'm i'm

00:00:59.180 doing good i want to start just by asking you know it's been not even a week uh of you being

00:01:05.060 out of out of prison a week last night a week last night okay just over a week and you know

00:01:10.820 you're somebody who has fought for freedom in the canadian armed forces there's someone who has

00:01:15.000 stood up for freedom many many times on your podcast after being in jail for over 60 days

00:01:20.400 like you know has this word taken on a new meeting has freedom taken on at all for you

00:01:25.680 um not really not really it's um anybody that's been following me for for a while shouldn't be

00:01:33.740 surprised to to to to hear that i've been i don't want to say predicting uh this but it's it's been

00:01:41.080 pretty clear that there's there's a lot of interested people that have been wanting to to

00:01:44.720 do this to me for quite a while and and it just that's the that's the trend that's the environment

00:01:49.560 that we're in this this you kind of find yourself in these situations when you say and do certain

00:01:53.980 things i'm sure um you know i'm not the only one that's noticed i kind of uh i don't want to say

00:01:58.980 i had a premonition but i was i've been saying this for years you know like until i'm in jail

00:02:03.100 and so like well you're not gonna go to jail yes i will well they'll get me eventually someday for

00:02:07.620 something and uh you know it's seemed to be bound to happen but it's uh it doesn't it doesn't change

00:02:14.520 doesn't change my opinion of anything um it was uh something i knew that that it's possible right

00:02:19.460 It's like, you know, you go to war, you might get shot.

00:02:22.680 It's just, it shouldn't be something you surprised at.

00:02:25.180 And if that's the mindset you're going into it with,

00:02:27.100 that how can this happen to me?

00:02:29.260 This is, well, you know,

00:02:30.660 maybe you should have thought about it a little bit more,

00:02:31.960 but it wasn't something I thought was surprising, I guess.

00:02:35.960 It's just, that's part of the game.

00:02:38.160 It's part of the fifth generation warfare 1.00

00:02:40.180 that we're all willingly or unwillingly

00:02:43.920 or unknowingly involved in.

00:02:46.260 Yeah, yeah. 0.94

00:02:47.080 and i mean your perspective is very much that right you've kind of embraced this weird clown

00:02:52.880 world we're living in because by all accounts you know all you're doing is is just kind of

00:02:58.920 you're an individual who's sharing your opinion but you are so kind of privy to the state of the

00:03:03.740 world that you're like yeah they might throw me in jail because i'm i'm a popular dissident

00:03:07.200 who's uh making a lot of noise and that's just what happens these democracy yeah and it's yeah

00:03:15.500 Yeah, it's not like – it depends on who you are, you know, and I'm sure that – I've got to be careful what I say too, obviously, but there is a lot of – I'll say this.

00:03:26.600 If I had $1,000 for every time over the past couple of months with this whole process, every person I talk to, you know, cops, people at the jail, lawyers, all these different –

00:03:35.400 if every time someone gave me $1,000 when they said, I've never seen anything like this before in my life, I could pay my legal bills entirely.

00:03:44.440 so it's a lot of um you know this is unusual a lot of unusual things but i mean you know i'm aware

00:03:54.160 there's a target on me and there's uh there's people that don't like me and and so on so i you

00:03:58.480 know you get a little extra attention for that kind of thing so versus uh you know i i'm i don't

00:04:03.560 want to sneeze in a library i think i'd be charged with uh you know bioterrorism or something at that

00:04:08.200 point yeah yeah it's amazing how the rules um well they don't apply to you and i've always

00:04:16.000 explained your situation to people and they're like well they can't do that and it's like well

00:04:19.960 they did well they did yeah exactly the rules don't apply i've never seen this before in my

00:04:26.520 life i've never seen anything like this before and of course there's uh your partner who also

00:04:32.220 got thrown in jail for for phantom gas theft as well yeah it's a new yes she did four day well

00:04:39.200 an unendorsed warrant so she was picked up for and arrested and put in jail for four days 0.99

00:04:43.360 allegedly for not paying 68 dollars in gas or something and she was in for four days uh for 0.90

00:04:50.700 that and you know she's fighting that and we're all fighting i mean obviously this should go

00:04:54.720 without saying we're all she myself i don't know we all there's only two of us um you know we're

00:05:00.200 pleading not guilty to everything we're fighting everything because it's all nonsense it's um you 0.52

00:05:04.120 know we're maintaining that you know throughout it's that's something you discover throughout

00:05:08.500 this whole process the way canada works is that um you know it's not innocent until proven guilty

00:05:12.660 here it's uh you're guilty until proven innocent and that's only if you can afford to um it's a

00:05:18.960 really insane system that you can be i mean i'm sitting next to guys that are like have done you

00:05:24.920 know 10 15 years in the penitentiary guys have done you know some pretty violent crazy stuff

00:05:30.900 they're sitting right across from me you know we're eating dinner together and i've never had

00:05:35.120 a day in court i haven't been convicted of anything i have no criminal record i'm sitting

00:05:37.720 in here right next to this guy sleeping next to this guy um you know with people that have done

00:05:42.020 some some pretty wild stuff and uh i don't think people i you know didn't really know how it works

00:05:48.320 most people don't because until it happens to you why would you you know no it's not really that

00:05:51.480 interesting but yeah like someone can just simply point the finger and say that guy uh this person

00:05:55.720 did this go get him and then they they throw you in there and they can throw you right in jail and

00:05:59.460 right and right with uh just like uh as if you had been convicted and then it's on you to uh dig

00:06:05.680 yourself out of that and it can be very expensive and you know luckily i um did get connected with

00:06:10.340 some with a pretty good legal team that uh he he had his he had a good good little teaser there at

00:06:16.240 the at the emergency inquiry that was fun that was a whole other thing we can get into if you want

00:06:20.340 But, um, yeah, it's, it's, it's crazy and it's, it's, you have to, uh, and it's hard to do. It's hard to dig yourself out from when you're, um, in jail. And, um, the other thing too, is that I was incredibly, incredibly fortunate and blessed to have so many people supporting me and the amount of, um, just the mail and the, like the, it was incredible. And, uh, I, you know, with all of that, I mean, you feel like you can do anything.

00:06:46.500 It's really, you know, you can beat anything when you have this many people trying to help you.

00:06:51.200 But, you know, my heart goes out to people that aren't in that kind of situation that don't.

00:06:58.080 I mean, I happened to I was smart with my money.

00:07:00.240 I'd saved. I had savings. I had things taken care of.

00:07:02.660 I have, you know, my pension and stuff.

00:07:04.400 My bills are paid. You know, they pay that pays for my house, you know, my kids and all that stuff.

00:07:08.920 So but if I was, you know, if I had a job, a day job or something where like I had employers, that's gone.

00:07:15.560 You know, you can't just say, I've got to go to jail for an indefinite period of time.

00:07:18.520 I'll let you know when I'm back.

00:07:19.380 No, you lose your job.

00:07:20.500 And then if you don't make payments on your bills and your mortgage, you lose your house.

00:07:23.580 You lose your car.

00:07:24.100 I could have lost everything.

00:07:26.140 And that's kind of the game they play.

00:07:28.860 There's no real, nothing stops for you.

00:07:31.560 Well, you know, there's no stop payments.

00:07:33.000 We'll wait and see what happens.

00:07:33.880 You're just gone now.

00:07:35.580 You're taken out of your life and everything goes on without you, including your mortgage payments, your bill payments, and all that kind of stuff.

00:07:40.120 So I was just fortunate to be, I positioned myself in a way that it wasn't too detrimental, I suppose, but it could be ruinous, and it is to a lot of other people.

00:07:55.680 I mean, if you're just some guy and, you know, I don't know, whatever could happen to people, you know, you get a DUI or something, you get thrown in jail for a couple of months, you lose your job at the bank and your house and your wife and kids are gone and your life is destroyed.

00:08:06.960 And then you might have $100,000, $200,000 in legal fees or something on top of it.

00:08:10.980 So it's lawfare, as they say, as they call it.

00:08:15.380 Yeah, and it's very scary to think that you are somebody who had a platform, who has a community around him, who can support you throughout this legal battle.

00:08:25.000 And that is not the case for everyone.

00:08:27.580 yeah and uh if you kind of look at the larger picture of this like you know fifth generational

00:08:32.720 warfare it's almost i wonder if your scenario your situation has has it all happened and any

00:08:38.960 other western country recently and and that is somebody you know being thrown in jail um you know

00:08:45.160 with very little like you know because he is a popular dissident like most of the time in other

00:08:51.000 countries maybe there's some other reason why they try to throw them in jail but it's it's almost

00:08:55.400 like you're an example of what they want which is any dissident we can just throw in jail for

00:09:01.600 any arbitrary reason and i would even argue that the situation with um with morgan and the gas

00:09:07.560 theft is like imagine that just kind of happened to all freedom fighters all of a sudden it's like

00:09:11.800 no you stole gas and you're going to jail now and like unless you have even like a popular twitter

00:09:16.460 account where you can like tweet out to your followers you're effed you don't have any means

00:09:20.620 to you know to get support or for even the rest of the canadian public to hear about it because

00:09:24.900 let's face it our news media institute sucks yeah well i you know like in her case right like 0.99

00:09:31.740 anyone else it would have just been called you know the hey i think you forgot to pay gas oh my 0.95

00:09:38.020 bad here's you know 60 or whatever you know whatever it is but because it's her you know 0.97

00:09:42.940 because we are we are that's not how it goes it's like technically they can do that and that's just

00:09:47.400 how it that seems to be the attitude that's applied across the board it's like normally this

00:09:51.580 is how things are done but because it's you technically uh this is these are all the weapons

00:09:56.020 we can deploy against you and do you and that seems to be um more often than not that you know

00:10:00.840 there's not a lot of leniency or understanding or anything like that it's just uh whatever they can

00:10:05.880 do and get away what they do and again it's you know i've never seen this before am i a lot yeah

00:10:10.940 i know i keep hearing that and uh that was the situation with her as well she got four days in 1.00

00:10:15.900 jail for for uh you know and we'll see how that goes there's a lot of these um but yeah i i wouldn't

00:10:22.720 want to be i wouldn't want to be in a position where you don't have that kind of support and

00:10:25.740 you don't have that kind of you know reach to have people looking out for you and otherwise

00:10:29.000 i mean my god yeah it's it's it's ruinous and that's why they that's why they do it and of

00:10:33.940 course um you know yeah fifth generation warfare it's an information war that we're in now it's

00:10:38.940 and the battle is over uh people's mindsets and um you know the hearts and minds we call it that's

00:10:44.380 we did in Afghanistan, and now the whole thing is being applied on a global scale all over the

00:10:51.020 Western world. And if you're, you know, a target of that, if you're a problem or if you're someone

00:10:56.800 that's been, you know, if you want to use the word dissonant or so on, there's things that can

00:11:02.880 be done to you. You can get extra attention. Maybe you get audited a little extra. You know,

00:11:08.160 there's all kinds of little pressure points and things they can do to just make your life more

00:11:12.360 difficult and um and they will um obviously yeah yeah so um you know you are a you're a you're a

00:11:24.840 canadian veteran and i i've interacted with a number of you guys now and you are very humble

00:11:29.800 you guys are very very humble and it's very very gracious and you know i i would never i know that

00:11:35.300 you guys don't want to be uh seen as a victim or anything like that and on the contrary you know

00:11:40.060 you seem to be people you people you canadian veterans uh you don't want to make a fuss you

00:11:45.860 know on the contrary you want you by definition kind of want to endure hardships in order for

00:11:50.540 others to have an easier life right that's that's kind of beat into the ethos and the and the color

00:11:57.860 it used to be the culture i don't want to comment on what it is now the military is anyway it's a

00:12:03.620 whole other conversation uh it's it's fallen away from what it used to be if you had talked to

00:12:08.600 anyone but um that's that's part of the ethos in the culture is that you just kind of suffer in

00:12:12.560 silence and you know the quiet professionalism like you're not you're not shouldn't be doing

00:12:15.320 things for attention or doing it because you want parades or medals you just do it because it needs

00:12:18.760 to be done you do things because they they should be done or that's your job and you know you're

00:12:23.080 that's just how it is you know that's just the attitude that that we tried to carry and and you

00:12:27.980 know beat into people you know through the training and experience and and that and so on so

00:12:32.900 So I think that that gets adopted by a lot of the guys and to you, your formative years, really.

00:12:39.220 I mean, I joined the military when I was 16, 17 years old.

00:12:42.020 So you don't really that that's the environment I was in when you learn how to be a man and how to conduct yourself and, you know, how to act and how not to act and that kind of thing.

00:12:49.720 I mean, there's you could grow up playing hockey and you're on hockey teams or you're in college or whatever, whatever someone's background is.

00:12:55.140 that was mine and that's how you know we we tried we had certain certain ways of doing things and

00:13:01.600 certain ideals and and uh you know uh principles that that we'd try to you know not only uh not

00:13:09.580 only maintain and give to the new guys but but you know uphold that are you know passed down from

00:13:13.980 you passed down to you from the guys that came before from the previous generations from the

00:13:17.340 older ncos that's that's that's the gig you're always supposed to train the guy below you to do

00:13:21.340 your job in the event you're killed inevitably or or whatever sometime someday somebody's going

00:13:27.460 to have to fill that that uniform that you're wearing because you're not going to be there

00:13:30.020 forever you're going to retire you're going to get killed something's going to happen

00:13:32.200 so you're training him and you're learning from the guy above you so there's always this

00:13:35.800 um you know lateral movement kind of thing it's just a it's a cycle you know you're here today

00:13:39.860 gone tomorrow and um that's uh that's just you know what we try to do is perpetuate those those

00:13:45.040 ideals and those uh those principles i guess and it is it is pretty common with a lot of the guys

00:13:52.640 and i think too because that's just what works um it's not something you get humbled in that job

00:13:58.400 in that i don't even call it a job in that lifestyle that career that that that environment 0.98

00:14:02.400 you can't uh you can't go in there acting like uh you know some hot shit hockey player you know 0.99

00:14:06.320 we've had a few of those you know but um 100 pounds on your back 100 pounds on your back 0.98

00:14:10.020 you know and there's no no way around that and that hill is as high as it's going to be and

00:14:14.020 the roads as long as it is, and incoming enemy fire is as indiscriminate and mean as it's always

00:14:18.380 ever going to be. That was the one thing I really loved about the Army, is that you can't fake

00:14:24.820 very much. You can't pretend to be anything. There's a lot of truth in it. You can't pretend

00:14:30.200 to be brave. You can't pretend to have courage. You can't pretend to have integrity. I mean,

00:14:35.060 you can, but it won't last very long. It will be exposed just to the nature of the job. There's

00:14:39.180 just too much uh hard-hitting you know on the ground reality that is inescapable it's just uh

00:14:44.940 you know and everybody's there to see it you know you have some guys from previous generations would

00:14:49.820 uh you know and in peacetime and this is why the u.s military is you know despite its

00:14:55.420 imperialistic nature has is an excellent uh the excellent you know fighting force because they're

00:15:01.520 they're sharpening their swords all the time so to speak so they you know being exposed and doing

00:15:07.080 it you can't fake it you can't play make-believe but you know and sometimes you'll get exposed

00:15:10.920 sooner or later you'll have uh ncos that act like big big shots and then when the bullets start

00:15:15.100 flying they run away or they hide or something and then you have some 22 year old private that

00:15:18.380 takes over because that's just the man on the ground at the time that knew what to do and get

00:15:22.080 it done and um that's that's the world that a lot of these guys come from and and uh so it's not

00:15:28.380 surprising that you would notice because there's a humility that comes with that too and you can

00:15:32.000 be here one minute and then you're dust so what happens to the uh you know the canadian hockey

00:15:38.120 bro who comes into the canadian armed forces with a big ego what happens to him on the first

00:15:42.340 first week it depends if he's really good at playing hockey they'll pick him up for the

00:15:46.160 regimental team and then he'll be really well looked after and taken care of they're all still

00:15:50.960 pretty big with the hockey uh in there but yeah it's you know it's expected if you're going to

00:15:57.040 talk like that and act like that then you're gonna there's gonna be extra attention paid to

00:16:00.000 you to see how see what you can do and if you don't measure if it's not gonna be good i did

00:16:03.820 the opposite i just tried to i just tried to lay low and be the great man i was a tiny little guy

00:16:09.400 when i joined the army so i was just happy to survive every day so i i'm noticing you know

00:16:15.540 you're you're very composed and you're and you're very calm cool collected you're like this is fifth

00:16:20.640 generational warfare and and part of me is very inspired by that and very like you know i appreciate

00:16:26.560 i appreciate the grace that you have but another part of me is you know where's the old rage who's

00:16:32.240 like this is this is crap this is i was in there for 60 can you believe that no where where's where's 0.60

00:16:38.400 that energy gone uh that's around don't worry that'll be back um that there's a time and a 0.95

00:16:43.840 place for it i guess this is my i'm still shaking dust and the rust off here i'm surprised all this

00:16:47.800 worked i just plugged it all in and seems to be working just fine it's surprising like riding a

00:16:52.480 bike like yeah yeah but you know it's it's um yeah a lot of people ask me or said too you must

00:16:58.580 be so happy to be out now oh that's great are you so happy congratulations that kind of thing i said

00:17:03.080 no i'm not happy why would i be happy i'm not happy that i'm out i'm angry that i was ever in

00:17:07.300 there in the first place you know what i mean it's uh it's like uh david knight said this about when

00:17:13.060 they they lifted the restrictions in texas in 2020 or 2021 i can't remember everyone was all

00:17:17.660 Well, finally, we've gotten rid of the – thank you, Governor Abbott, whoever the guy's name was, for freeing us of these ridiculous lockdowns and restrictions and so on.

00:17:26.720 He said, you don't say thank you to a tyrant or a bully for taking his boot off your neck.

00:17:31.740 You don't say thank you to a bully when he stops beating you.

00:17:34.520 You know, that's not how – so that's – already, that's the wrong mindset.

00:17:38.260 You're like, oh, thank goodness it's not – well, it's not over.

00:17:40.940 This could go on.

00:17:41.920 This is going to be years I'm going to be dealing with this stuff.

00:17:44.640 but uh yeah you don't want to burn yourself out being too angry about it at once or anything but

00:17:49.280 um yeah it's it's and and i i'm really handcuffed about what i can uh things i can say about it and

00:17:55.900 things i can't so it's yeah it's it's a pretty it's a pretty fucked up situation um but uh you 0.97

00:18:04.420 know we're dealing with it and uh it's again i've been in worse places you know everybody was 0.75

00:18:09.420 writing me all kinds of letters and calling i hope you're i've been in i've been in much worse 0.99

00:18:13.320 much worse places it wasn't it was it was pretty pretty gay pretty dumb 1.00

00:18:17.360 you know what i mean it was a pretty it was a pretty stupid situation it sucked but uh you 1.00

00:18:23.860 know i've had worse it's not anything that's the worst part about that is is not knowing uh you 0.98

00:18:29.320 know what they call it when you're doing dead time where you're not it would be it would be

00:18:33.200 easier for somebody to tell you you're doing six months or you're doing a year and you're this is

00:18:36.920 the day you're done in my situation it was like maybe be out on tuesday maybe it's two weeks maybe

00:18:41.600 is two years we don't know it's just we don't know we'll just we'll let you know and weeks go

00:18:46.740 by like yeah we don't know we don't know what's going on that's that's uh that's hard on the head 0.93

00:18:51.420 but um you know and the other guy's like that sucks you know and you're on tv all the time you 0.85

00:18:56.220 know the other guys in the jail are like okay you're on the i'm like oh great i'm being slandered

00:19:02.000 some more um yeah it was it was fun so you said you've been treated worse before i want to play

00:19:09.640 this clip i sent it to your telegram i don't know if you can can you watch it on your end there

00:19:13.700 which one uh it's it's the actual video that i sent you where we at uh on on telegram i'm fine

00:19:23.480 i'm gonna find you here we go you see it there we are gotcha which one the top one uh the top one

00:19:28.940 okay so i'm just gonna play it here yeah okay jeremy so jeremy um mckenzie who's in the

00:19:36.340 Saskatchewan prison. Is he a victim of actual torture under Canadian law? Absolutely. If he

00:19:43.100 is being treated the way that Morgan, his girlfriend or his wife is saying he's being

00:19:46.960 treated, which is two 15 minute intervals out of the cell, that's torture. That's the definition

00:19:51.940 of torture under Canadian law. So apparently she said that he is supposed to, the law dictates

00:19:58.260 in prisons that there must be two hours of human contact and there must be four hours outside the

00:20:04.100 and like by far that's not what he's getting if that's what is happening to him so um i

00:20:11.080 so uh is that is that all true you're being tortured in the saskatchewan spa day spa yeah

00:20:22.060 the saskatchewan what is it called the saskatchewan correctional center resort and spa

00:20:25.980 is the official name they dropped the last part because it doesn't really quite live up to its

00:20:30.500 reputation how many how many stars would you give it in a review i gave it two out of five i gave it

00:20:35.060 a little review i mean i thought there was going to be there was no barking dogs there was no ice

00:20:39.660 hosing down of people there wasn't any like just you know mindless beatings um disappointment they

00:20:47.260 left the heat on at night you know stuff like that you know i just expected it to be i mean they did

00:20:51.800 feed us something i think it was mostly chopped up chinese political prisoners but um still i mean

00:20:58.340 What happened to the good old days when you'd have to chase rats around and, you know, the strongest men would get to eat the most rats, and that's how you survive jail?

00:21:06.320 I don't know.

00:21:07.280 We're getting soft out here in these days.

00:21:09.140 Yeah, I don't know.

00:21:10.080 I guess that – is it legal, is it not?

00:21:12.240 I have no idea.

00:21:12.740 I think the – federally, in the penitentiary and stuff like that, I think that is the law, but provincially, maybe not or evidently not, and that's what they were doing.

00:21:23.340 I did different stretches.

00:21:25.020 So, yeah, I did 17 days in solitary.

00:21:28.340 in total, or in segregation, or whatever they want.

00:21:30.480 You're in a box by yourself, you know, all

00:21:32.520 day long, and

00:21:33.720 10 or 11 of those days

00:21:36.600 I think in Saskatchewan, and it was

00:21:38.460 yeah, 15 minutes, twice a day,

00:21:41.140 and that's to, you want to, you know,

00:21:42.560 take a shower, use the phone, whatever, that's what

00:21:44.560 you got. You got 15 minutes in the morning, 15 minutes in the evening.

00:21:47.160 And the rest of the time, you're just, you know,

00:21:48.600 locked in there, staring at the wall.

00:21:50.500 In a dry cell as well. Yeah,

00:21:52.480 yeah, yeah, you gotta buzz them and ask to go to the washroom,

00:21:54.640 and they'll still, if they want to let you,

00:21:56.260 Yeah, you can.

00:21:57.520 Okay, so maybe you just pee your pants, you know.

00:22:00.560 You do whatever you got to do.

00:22:02.200 So was there bathroom breaks out of the 30 minutes?

00:22:06.860 Well, I used them to make phone calls because I was trying to get, you know, organized lawyers and stuff like that.

00:22:11.700 But otherwise, you just, you know, press the button and buzz them and hopefully they'll – they're also following a lot of this COVID protocol stuff. 0.66

00:22:18.160 I mean they taped up the goddamn weights outside, you know, we were using.

00:22:22.160 So you go to yard time, you want to use the yard, you want to use the – they're outside. 0.99

00:22:26.260 in the snow you know which was kind of cool you know we're you know doing uh doing our weight sets

00:22:30.580 and stuff in the in blizzards and you know that was until you know the covid protocol stuff came

00:22:34.660 back and then they taped them up because that's how you get covid by lifting weights outside in

00:22:37.860 the fresh air um so there was a lot of weirdness you know the masks are on they're off and that

00:22:41.780 they would only let one guy out of the cell at a time so if there's three other guys waiting to go

00:22:44.920 to the bathroom and you're you know you could be waiting an hour or two sometimes so yeah it was

00:22:50.920 yeah half hour a day and that's if they you know and it wasn't even a schedule sometimes they would

00:22:55.660 just buzz you and be like you got 15 minutes starting out a couple times i'd be asleep i would

00:22:59.660 just like try to run down get a phone and you got to dial all this crap and there's these passwords

00:23:04.860 and it doesn't work and they're screaming at you to get back in your get back in your box you know

00:23:09.120 it uh wasn't you know it was interesting so this is what i meant about canadian veterans being

00:23:16.800 humble man i'm like hey so you were tortured you were tortured what was that like and you're like

00:23:21.120 cracking jokes well they didn't cut my fingernails off or my eyelids or anything

00:23:27.140 so i guess it could have been you know i was expecting worse um but that clip that i showed

00:23:32.900 was from um her name is susan have you ever connected with this woman but she's been posting

00:23:38.940 a little bit about it saying that uh someone needs to start preparing a class action mass

00:23:44.600 torture federal court lawsuit and high-profile international media campaign to expose which

00:23:49.600 canadian government employees are instructing prison staff to violate our federal laws as well

00:23:53.320 as u.n treaty so this is regardless of what saskatchewan might say apparently this is against

00:23:57.860 like a u.n treaty every political prisoner could join the class action against ottawa uh like is

00:24:05.000 there anything happening on that front um on your end or like hey i was tortured uh hi hey uh i'm

00:24:14.040 not sure i was tortured for making a popular podcast yeah oh a lot of uh a lot of a lot of

00:24:21.620 problem is that people just don't complain they don't try to they don't uh they just accept it

00:24:27.420 right and that's what i was uh kind of surprised at how a lot of the guys in there would just

00:24:32.640 accept a lot of it a lot of the behavior a lot of it was um just you know normal to them because

00:24:38.540 they're in and out of there all the time most of the guys in there are in there all the time you

00:24:41.680 know they just go in there for vacation kind of you know and uh they're just like yeah that's how

00:24:45.940 it is and they're just it's alarming because that's you know conditioning right and and now

00:24:51.120 you know you see that in in our society now with um all of the new over um just just the reach of

00:24:59.080 the state and the media and so on what's become normalized now what was insane it's it is still

00:25:04.340 insane and that's you know what i try to hang on to every day because if you start letting it be

00:25:08.800 normal then you forget about it and then it's normal it's normal now to have uh you know the

00:25:14.560 government decide they're going to maybe take your kids away because you don't you know you listen to

00:25:18.280 the wrong things or what's going on in new zealand they're trying to grab some guy's kid because he

00:25:21.600 doesn't want to uh doesn't want to uh you know the blood transfusion or something this kid needs

00:25:26.960 and doesn't want to have you have a blood transfusion from people that have had the

00:25:31.040 mrna injections and they're like no maybe we'll just take your kids maybe we'll just take them 0.93

00:25:34.480 instead um it's crazy the gaslighting and the things the media have gotten away with saying

00:25:39.740 and doing and you know the you've got the prime minister othering entire sections of the of the

00:25:43.360 population millions of people should we tolerate them how what should we do with them you know

00:25:47.040 you're being threatened oh there's going to be consequences some of them are saying this kind

00:25:50.100 of stuff that was uh unthinkable to say that's career suicide 10 years ago now it's just now

00:25:56.580 it's just oh they said another thing today so so you can get used to anything if it's brought in

00:26:02.780 gradually enough if you just kind of slowly the frog in the boiling pot metaphor we've all talked

00:26:07.420 about for years if you just do it slowly enough and gradually enough people will put up with

00:26:11.080 absolutely anything i mean north korea exists you know it shouldn't but it does and that should

00:26:17.060 scare everybody and the fact that not too many people uh seem to get too alarmed about it i saw

00:26:22.320 a guy on facebook earlier the other day um because now there's the gun ban which again years and

00:26:27.900 years have been saying this is what they're going to do they're going to say this they're going to

00:26:31.880 say give us an inch and we're going to take the whole field and we're just going to that that'll

00:26:35.700 never happen bro that because because this is so far bro and like that will never be the thing

00:26:41.240 like because because i but no it is and and look how far it's coming and this guy was like oh well

00:26:46.840 what are they going to do they're not going to come now he's resigned himself to well they're

00:26:50.620 not going to come collect everyone's guns so what is there to worry about a couple of years ago there

00:26:54.380 was the uproar like how can they ban these and how can they get away with this and now it's like well

00:26:58.100 let them ban. They're not going to come get mine or anything. And I said, that exact attitude, 0.90

00:27:01.940 the guy's profile picture was a couple of young kids, like babies, like one, two-year-olds.

00:27:05.780 I assume they were his. And I was like, that kind of attitude is what's going to endanger those

00:27:09.000 kids. Because in 20 years from now, all the rights and things that you used to have, that they're

00:27:13.200 just being taken away, they're not going to have at all. They're not even going to have any memories

00:27:15.720 of existing. Because you felt like you're doing the whatabouts and the, oh, well, you know, it's

00:27:21.100 okay because I'm just going to compromise in my head so that I don't have to do anything.

00:27:25.940 and I don't have to I don't people don't like to feel upset and alarmed and concerned and feel

00:27:30.600 like there's a problem because then they have to do something about the problem if they have to do

00:27:34.320 something about the problem then that's stressful and they don't want to do that they want to watch

00:27:37.880 football and eat cheese and sleep all day so something awful can happen and they'll they'll

00:27:44.180 just you know computing will will come out well here's why you don't have to do anything here's

00:27:48.620 why it's okay and it doesn't help that you've got these media personalities up there telling them

00:27:52.380 exactly what they want them to think and feel all the time just just take the drugs be numb don't

00:27:57.100 feel anything everything's fine everything's under control just go back to sleep all the time so it's

00:28:01.860 a constant struggle and that's that's the fifth generation warfare that we're under and it's not

00:28:05.280 it's not even countries anymore you've got this uh elite you know billionaire super tech billionaire

00:28:11.000 class of people that is just gobbling up the gobbling up the whole uh the whole world they're

00:28:15.580 buying up all the farms and all the property and all the resources and in you know um and they've

00:28:20.780 got the these media clowns run cover for them and telling everybody how great it all is it's like

00:28:26.140 this isn't good for us it's good great for them uh you've convinced these people who are now your 0.88

00:28:31.080 victims to enjoy their own uh enjoy their own exploitation it's uh so you don't need to fight

00:28:37.160 in that in that environment you know old third fourth generation warfare is like you know like

00:28:41.720 world war ii large-scale combined arms kind of uh kind of thing this is a new you know we can we can

00:28:48.560 conquer you and control you without ever having uh fire a gun yeah and that's way that that's a

00:28:55.900 way you know more solid victory because if those people if you use force to conquer somebody they're

00:29:00.640 going to resist you even if they lose there's going to be an element of them that are always

00:29:04.380 going to be you know i look at look at the uh the ira in ireland you know what the british uh you

00:29:09.360 know tried to do there and that was like you know it's still going on right there's still bad blood

00:29:13.320 there um but if you can convince them to to believe that this is what they want to do or

00:29:18.640 scare them into it uh then you're they're yours forever at that point or you know convince them

00:29:23.860 to tear down their own statues for example why not convince them to hate themselves but yeah i think

00:29:30.000 there's a lot to be said about that it is sad to see kind of the backsliding the compromise after

00:29:34.580 compromise and i think you know what we saw during lockdowns was a good example of that

00:29:38.500 It was like, oh, you know, oh, we have a little bit of freedom back.

00:29:42.120 Yay.

00:29:42.720 Thank you, daddy.

00:29:44.040 And it's like, yeah, but our society is completely different now.

00:29:46.720 And we've lost so much.

00:29:48.880 And it's gone from a high trust society to this.

00:29:52.380 And it's the same.

00:29:53.400 It's the same.

00:29:54.020 You know, why are you saying why are you saying thank you for the beatings of stops?

00:29:56.920 So you're celebrating.

00:29:58.020 Yeah.

00:29:58.700 You know, there shouldn't be there should be absolute, you know, everyone should be furious that this took place at all.

00:30:03.400 That this even happened.

00:30:04.460 And they're just comfy to just accept that now the beatings have ended temporarily.

00:30:09.280 You know, why would they stop?

00:30:10.400 Why won't there be more nonsense and shenanigans down the road?

00:30:12.720 Of course it's going to be.

00:30:14.360 All the same people are still in power.

00:30:16.360 All the same people are still making money more than ever.

00:30:19.540 There's no reason to stop.

00:30:20.620 Sometimes they'll slow down, take their foot off the gas a little bit when people get, you know, uppity.

00:30:25.040 You know, like what happened in February.

00:30:26.660 People got a little cranky.

00:30:28.240 So they kind of, you know, backpedal a little bit.

00:30:31.540 But they'll continue.

00:30:32.560 they'll keep going and um you know it's it's scary it's scary to watch it's just full speed

00:30:37.820 ahead with these people and some of the bills they're trying to force through now uh you know

00:30:42.560 while everyone's no one's paying attention as usual um speaking of i know you've been a little

00:30:47.860 bit uh out of the loop because you've been uh preoccupied yeah but uh you were talking about

00:30:55.320 all the all the things that trudeau was saying and uh you know calling us all these names did

00:31:00.360 you did you hear about how he uh lied under oath during the inquiry no he was questioned oh you

00:31:07.680 know you called the you know unvaccinated people's names that trucker convoy supporters name and he

00:31:14.080 was like no he was under oath and he was like no i didn't do that i i said that maybe they have

00:31:19.420 like a predisposition to this that he just lied under oath yeah um and i really feel that the

00:31:25.620 inquiry uh i can feel you know all the other dude it was like a blooper but um you know i really

00:31:33.000 feel it was a new low in that it was showing our justice system and our public officials kind of

00:31:39.560 making a mockery of it uh it's funny canada's hilarious in a bad way it's like a dark comedy

00:31:45.240 this whole country is a dark i've been saying like yeah especially like just how my life has

00:31:50.000 got all of us how we this whole crazy thing we've been doing the last couple years this is like a

00:31:54.140 will ferrell john c reilly movie waiting to happen you know and it's like they always try

00:31:58.840 to compare it to the the united states is like a very serious like it's got a hans zimmer

00:32:02.700 back back soundtrack you know it's got it's just very serious sean connery's in it there's

00:32:08.480 nuclear submarines it's all you know very intense and then canada is like a satirical version of

00:32:12.420 that right you know tried to do that but failed horribly it's just it's a clown show here i mean

00:32:18.660 you can't even take the um you know the the villainous characters and people in in our society

00:32:24.640 here very serious they're just it's it's like it's mind-boggling to me how people even take

00:32:29.360 them seriously it's insane at least in these other other places you've got some you know powerful

00:32:33.400 people but they're legitimately you know they're they're bad people they're bad you know bad bad

00:32:38.020 cats and they do bad stuff and it's it's much more serious down there up here it's like a i don't

00:32:43.200 know it's a three ring circus it's a dumpster fire um and they can just get away with the most

00:32:49.500 insane things that they say and um i haven't watched any obviously the the uh the inquiry

00:32:54.760 act or how any that went um but i i i suspect the whole thing is going to be result in you know

00:33:02.760 either they don't find anyone to pin this on or they do find someone to pin it on the idea that

00:33:08.620 the government is going to take any responsibility for any of this and there's going to be any 0.94

00:33:11.680 consequences is absolutely ridiculous. That's never going to happen.

00:33:14.400 It's never going to happen, yeah.

00:33:15.200 Not going to happen at all. So it's like, you know, the other side of it, the population

00:33:20.960 side of it, could do everything right and nothing will happen. If they do a couple of things wrong,

00:33:26.240 some people will go to jail, they'll run these fifth estate pieces, they'll do all of this stuff.

00:33:30.720 So really the purpose of it is, well, they have to do it by law, right? But really it's, you know,

00:33:37.280 Look at the mass casualty inquiry in Nova Scotia that provided no answers whatsoever.

00:33:42.980 They just get to wash their hands with it and say they did what they had to do.

00:33:46.220 No one's going to be fired.

00:33:47.220 A bunch of them were promoted.

00:33:48.400 Nothing was done.

00:33:49.660 It's just so condescending to think that you can just do this to the population indefinitely. 0.99

00:33:59.680 We'll just treat you like clowns. 0.98

00:34:01.280 Like, we're not serious. 1.00

00:34:02.120 You don't matter.

00:34:03.280 We can do whatever we want for as long as we want about whatever we want.

00:34:07.560 And what are you going to do about it?

00:34:09.040 Nothing.

00:34:09.840 Nothing.

00:34:10.440 I'll just sit here and lie, and he'll lie, and we'll all lie.

00:34:14.380 And everyone knows we're lying.

00:34:15.740 We're now in that Soviet world where it's—was it Solzhenitsyn?

00:34:20.180 I can't remember.

00:34:21.520 They're lying.

00:34:22.760 We know that they're lying.

00:34:24.280 They know that we know that they're lying.

00:34:26.260 And we know that they know that we know that they're lying.

00:34:28.320 And yet they still lie, and we're all still doing this for some reason.

00:34:32.360 it's like no one's surprised anymore it's such a it's such a crazy situation to be in and it just

00:34:39.380 it's unsustainable it can't be this can't go on forever something um like you said it's a low

00:34:43.580 trust society now what happens what happens when people don't trust the police anymore what happens

00:34:47.960 when they don't can't believe anything they see and we're getting there they can't believe anything

00:34:51.420 you see on tv anymore if you ever could but now worse than ever like you can't uh you know like

00:34:56.960 I've always, you know, been quoting somebody that used to say that news would tell you what was

00:35:02.040 happening and then you would have to decide how you felt about it. Now they tell you how to feel

00:35:07.440 about everything that's happening and you have to figure out if any of it's even true, you know,

00:35:10.980 if you, if you even can, that's another aspect of this, you know, fifth generational information

00:35:15.780 war. They called it flooding the zone. There's just so much information overload. It's deliberate

00:35:20.400 and the topics keep changing so often. It's, it's impossible. It's like trying to find your way

00:35:25.280 around in the woods during a hurricane at night you know it's almost impossible you're not going

00:35:29.540 to do it it's it's um you know by design to keep people confused and afraid and and when people are

00:35:35.020 afraid when their um tensions are up really high when they're depressed and afraid and freaked out

00:35:39.660 they'll do anything they'll they'll follow directions that's just basic psychology and um

00:35:44.200 you know no one's trying to convince us no one's saying here's our argument here here's why we're

00:35:51.400 the good guys here's why we're right and this people are wrong you know well let's talk about

00:35:54.600 this we'll have it that's not how it is it's this is how it is and you're going to say that or or

00:35:58.740 else we're gonna we're gonna take your job we're gonna uh we're gonna demean you we're gonna you

00:36:03.460 know drag you through the coals of the media we're gonna kick you out of school we're gonna 0.99

00:36:07.280 punish you so you're gonna you're gonna do this or you're gonna be punished and you're gonna be

00:36:11.180 called all kinds of things and and or worse we'll see how far we have to take this with you you

00:36:15.600 pesky uh person that's not paying not doing the you not playing the game you peasant you surf get 0.92

00:36:21.560 back in time i wonder how i wonder how long it's been like that because because during during

00:36:27.100 lockdowns during the pandemic i think you're absolutely right that's a good kind of summary

00:36:31.120 of what they did is they just sent so much information at us constantly all the time

00:36:35.320 wear a mask don't wear a mask six feet you know uh get the injection don't get the injection the

00:36:40.720 az injection is not good for you actually it was good for you actually we're gonna like switch

00:36:44.360 flip flop back and forth whether and at the and you know you could see it in the normies faces

00:36:49.080 they're like i don't even know anymore i'm just gonna do as i'm told i just want to go to

00:36:52.900 dominican republic uh and i think that's a good summary like information overload so the people

00:36:58.960 just said yeah just tell me what to do and i think you're right in terms of how the the information

00:37:04.160 is presented now it's not like hey we're gonna explain ourselves no yeah no we're just gonna

00:37:08.920 tell you how it is they've changed their minds they've they flip-flopped on so many things

00:37:13.480 so many things over the like the masks remember the masks didn't do anything they were worthless

00:37:18.860 There's no point.

00:37:19.620 The particles, they're meant to stop dust particles, which are a thousand times the size of the COVID disease particles.

00:37:24.660 So there's not even any point in wearing them.

00:37:25.980 We went from that to you have to wear them or we'll put you in jail or something, right?

00:37:29.720 And now it's back to no one's wearing them because no one ever cared.

00:37:33.560 Nobody cares.

00:37:34.300 Nobody's ever cared.

00:37:35.540 You know, I read something in Ontario.

00:37:38.560 It's like, well, we're thinking about bringing them back.

00:37:40.460 And, you know, most people want the masks back.

00:37:43.000 Well, no, they don't, because if they did, they would be wearing them right now.

00:37:46.420 Why is no one wearing them anyway?

00:37:47.640 I was just in the Toronto International Airport.

00:37:50.220 I think I saw one person, one, the whole time I was in there.

00:37:53.100 I was in there for like six hours.

00:37:54.300 I saw one person with a mask on in the whole place.

00:37:56.280 So they're all just, you know, waiting for your say-so.

00:37:59.980 No one's stopping them.

00:38:00.860 You can wear them if you want.

00:38:02.020 That's always been the case.

00:38:03.180 So why are they trying to insist on everyone that this is how it is?

00:38:07.500 Most people just want to be left alone.

00:38:09.160 80% of the people just, I don't care.

00:38:10.960 I want to, you know, live my life and pursue whatever goals I have.

00:38:14.220 I want to raise my family.

00:38:15.180 I want to do this with my career. 0.98

00:38:16.680 i want to you know i want to eat cheese and watch sports ball okay i don't give a shit i want aaron 0.96

00:38:21.240 rogers to win the super bowl like that's all they care fine that's always been the case it's never 0.92

00:38:25.720 going to change this is how most people are and then you've got people on this side you've got

00:38:29.080 people on the other side and they're you know playing this tug of war over the middle and the

00:38:32.520 ones in the middle are going to do whatever they just want to be like just just leave me alone and

00:38:37.000 and uh you know let me live my life and that and they know that so they they they dangle the carrot

00:38:42.280 on you know it's like everything will be fine just just do this just two weeks uh it's okay

00:38:47.080 just another couple of months it's just another lockdown it's just one vaccine it's just two

00:38:50.680 vaccines it's just three it's just it's just a passport it's just bill c11 it's just this soon

00:38:55.240 soon soon everything's gonna be fine soon you can go back to your life but just again just one more

00:39:00.040 carrot one more one more step down the road and it's crazy that they don't uh no one seems to

00:39:05.640 clue into what's happening like just stop for a minute stop the car pull over and and look around

00:39:10.840 like do you see how far down this highway to hell you've come yeah you just take stock of that of

00:39:16.680 where you were two years ago and where you are now and why why how none of this is normal or healthy

00:39:25.880 or or sane and um now we've got a complete you know society's completely divided against the

00:39:31.880 selfish people living in parallel dimensions literally there's people that believe their

00:39:36.600 entire worldview is completely antithetical to the to the people on the other side and somehow

00:39:41.320 they're supposed to mesh and work together as a as a as a nation as a civil it's not going to

00:39:46.120 happen it's impossible it's it's it's designed to be uh to have conflict um and not only that it's

00:39:52.880 hey hey you know carrot on the stick they got the carrot they got the carrot just two more weeks

00:39:56.740 just get one more dose and then it's also like now maybe just with with maid maybe just holy

00:40:04.060 They're trying to make that very seductive and very attractive.

00:40:07.660 They're trying to de-stigmatize it.

00:40:09.780 It's horrifying, and I feel like only in Canada

00:40:13.920 is it kind of something that there's not nearly enough pushback with.

00:40:17.840 The public's just like, oh, okay, yeah, they can't afford rent, I guess.

00:40:21.060 Okay, let's just let them just end it.

00:40:23.260 That seems reasonable.

00:40:25.280 Yeah, they're desensitized.

00:40:27.040 It's desensitized from the, again, if this was years ago,

00:40:29.640 people would probably be a lot more upset about it,

00:40:31.320 But the power that the TV has, and when I say TV, it's, you know, kind of in a monolithic sense of, yeah, it's, you know, I don't watch TV, but, you know, it's your phones and stuff, right?

00:40:43.360 The mainline, you know, pipe-fed sludge that just gets pumped into your brain is able to make people do anything or not care about anything or care about certain things.

00:40:56.460 And it's fascinating that the hypocrisy is so blatantly huge that they can ignore it and not notice.

00:41:06.740 Like, for example, they can, you know, like the Ukraine situation, right?

00:41:10.900 All of a sudden, everyone's real concerned about countries being invaded and people being killed and all of this.

00:41:15.960 And, oh, how can we do this?

00:41:17.700 Like, do you, we just finished bombing countries for 20 years.

00:41:22.880 We did.

00:41:23.220 we just ran around the middle east breaking everything and killing everybody and it was 0.93

00:41:29.060 you know i sleep like no one cares uh the saudi arabians are committing genocide in yemen we're 1.00

00:41:34.000 giving them training money aircraft ground vehicles which yeah oh fucking fuck yemen kill 1.00

00:41:39.820 everybody who cares who cares nobody ever cares you know but because tv said oh well this one is 1.00

00:41:45.060 special this guy with his green top that he doesn't have any other any other clothes ever

00:41:50.940 This guy, he just perpetually walks around like he's in between the tactical command center and going back to the field.

00:41:58.200 He's just like, I'm basically in the Army, but maybe not.

00:42:00.500 I don't know.

00:42:01.020 He's this weird little costume, and he's just running around begging for money.

00:42:05.960 Well, I mean, there's a lot of reasons for that.

00:42:07.160 I can get into that another time.

00:42:08.120 But the regular person just – I mean, you've got the flags everywhere.

00:42:13.900 I was in the city the other day, and there was an ad on the back of this truck, and it was like a little girl in a swimming pool and cheddar.

00:42:19.480 they i can't remember what it's for some charity or something but they had someone had painted the

00:42:23.840 nails on the girl's hand you know blue and yellow yeah like it wasn't part of the ad someone just

00:42:29.020 felt the need to go do that because ukraine you know and the big flag over the bridge forever

00:42:34.120 it's like it's like war has never happened to these people ever in history and they never

00:42:38.500 stop to think like why is this one so important why is this one worth we're gonna we're gonna

00:42:44.660 just vomit the ukraine colors all over the city and we're gonna and just non-stop around the 0.87

00:42:51.620 clock and you know that's not suspicious at all to anyone and there's there's literally wars

00:42:57.380 happening any pick a day in human history somebody's killing somebody somewhere all over the

00:43:01.720 world but that for this one uh we all have to be we all have to bankrupt ourselves spend billions

00:43:07.040 of dollars uh empty the the war stock and munition stockpile of the canadian forces send all

00:43:11.920 encourage our own guys go over there and die which they're doing some of them have been killed over

00:43:16.240 there for what you know like why no one asks why anymore because we don't have journalists

00:43:23.200 we don't have a free press we don't have that fifth column anymore to put the checks and balances in

00:43:29.160 place for these people in power to say what the hell are you doing because without because again

00:43:35.520 people are tough they'll just follow whatever the talking box head says so if that person decides

00:43:40.900 they're going to start playing on a team that isn't

00:43:43.020 team, you know, this is what's actually

00:43:44.740 these are the facts, this is what's going on

00:43:46.800 you guys deal with it

00:43:48.480 that's all they're supposed to do, this is what's going

00:43:50.940 on, this is what we found

00:43:52.080 your move, public

00:43:54.100 this is my function, this is my service

00:43:56.900 this is what I do

00:43:58.100 and that's not what it is anymore, it's become a mouthpiece

00:44:00.860 are you suggesting just presenting

00:44:03.060 the facts to people?

00:44:04.480 is that what you're suggesting?

00:44:06.520 without telling them how to think about it

00:44:08.520 I know it's a dangerous, radical new idea

00:44:10.540 But I really believe in the idea that maybe if people just had access to the facts themselves, they could almost come up with their own consensus on what to do about it rather than have some kind of state-sponsored mouthpiece sit there and just spew this into their heads and then make them feel – not only just do that, but make them feel like they're bad people if they don't agree with it, like there's something wrong with them.

00:44:32.260 it's all very abusive and and uh i saw you had that other thing queued up i don't i don't care

00:44:36.700 about any of these journalists um but it's you know so narcissistic there's so much lack of

00:44:44.720 empathy and understanding they're so like can't wrap their heads around why people would be angry

00:44:50.560 at them why people are are sending you know whatever they're doing death threats and vile

00:44:55.680 messages and you know this kind of thing but no at no time are they like why could this be

00:45:00.000 you know um when you if you stop thinking about yourself for just a minute you know the answer

00:45:08.280 is very obvious but when in a world again it's the age of narcissism everybody's you know

00:45:12.400 selfies and me everything is about me and uh this is no different look at now what's happening to me

00:45:18.140 look what's happening to me i'm going to use my position in the media this the sacred obligation

00:45:23.340 i have to inform the public and tell them about what's happening and and so that so they can make

00:45:27.120 informed decisions with uh you know with their lives what's going on with the economy what is

00:45:30.400 going on with the war should i should i send my children should we not be involved should we pay 1.00

00:45:33.900 these no no fuck all that did you hear what happened to me today like holy shit yeah holy 1.00

00:45:40.800 shit and uh yeah it's just you know what do you do it's it's just a runaway you just got to wait 1.00

00:45:47.500 for the the train's already going over the cliff you know i just try to just get out of the way 0.99

00:45:51.700 you know and when the flames die down maybe we can go through the rubble and find some useful

00:45:55.840 things to you know rebuild our lives with but it's complete it's just a runaway clown show at

00:46:01.480 this point i don't know what to say about it yeah and in a way i think that the the news media that

00:46:06.940 the the mainstream tv sludge as you put it i think it's kind of replaced religion because back in the

00:46:13.840 day you would go to church you listen to the pastor they would tell you you know this is this

00:46:17.800 is what you should think about morally this is right this is wrong two wrong stuff and they have

00:46:22.340 these moral lessons and today it's like you turn on the tv if you don't support ukraine and have a

00:46:29.520 yellow and blue flag yeah in your bio you're a bad person like this is the new like people actually 1.00

00:46:36.120 get their morality from tv from the news right they do and they get it if it's not from there

00:46:40.920 they get it from netflix they get it from their so that's something else i've i've you know amused

00:46:45.300 on is that people live on they live digitally now we don't live in communities we don't have

00:46:50.500 Like, so the church used to be where everyone went in a town.

00:46:54.060 That's how you knew everyone, because you'd see them at church, you know, and you'd talk to them.

00:46:57.520 And that's, you know, where this, you know, the town would, it's the beating heart of the town.

00:47:01.200 Or there'd be the pub or there'd be the market, whatever.

00:47:03.460 There's these little venues where, that's all gone.

00:47:05.700 Everything's digital now.

00:47:07.460 So your social cues and the way to pick up on how to act and, you know, what's good, what's bad, whatever, is all being curated and fed to you.

00:47:16.420 It's not accidental.

00:47:17.360 It's being selected by corporations run by billionaires that are trying to get even more money out of you.

00:47:23.580 That's the entire purpose of all this. 0.98

00:47:25.280 Morality has left the station a long fucking time ago. 0.67

00:47:27.880 This is all about getting every last dollar out of everybody and maximizing their bottom lines. 0.98

00:47:32.840 And that's how they do it.

00:47:33.900 Do you think Netflix is trying to teach you anything?

00:47:35.920 Netflix is concerned about your soul?

00:47:37.960 Do you think Amazon Prime is worried about if you're a good father or not?

00:47:42.760 They're trying to sell you sneakers. 0.99

00:47:44.580 They're trying to fucking make you vote for Hillary Clinton. 0.99

00:47:46.940 They're trying to do whatever it is. 0.98

00:47:48.900 Somebody has a vested interest in making sure you think the right things, and it's not for your sake.

00:47:54.740 It's for theirs.

00:47:55.640 The whole thing, you know, we're just products to these people now.

00:48:01.580 It's just numbers to be managed, and that's what happens.

00:48:05.100 You know, not even necessarily if it's Christian religion, but that aspect of spirituality or people having any kind of tie to that aspect of themselves where they think about things like this, about it's gone, you know, except for the ones that go and seek it out themselves and are trying to, you know, bring it back.

00:48:23.320 But you're not going to get that from TV.

00:48:25.400 You know, TV doesn't even turn off.

00:48:26.520 I remember when I was a kid, it used to be color bars at 2 or 3 a.m.

00:48:29.360 And it would be like, all right, go to sleep now.

00:48:30.960 It's over.

00:48:31.720 There's no more TV. 1.00

00:48:32.680 Go to bed, asshole. 1.00

00:48:33.940 You know? 1.00

00:48:34.440 now it's just there's something on around the clock you can never get away from it yeah and

00:48:38.240 you can never really be alone with your thoughts if you don't want to you can always just tune in

00:48:42.860 to something yeah i think you're right i think they do feast on our attention but you know keep

00:48:47.680 watching automatically go to the next episode on netflix it's perfect it's it's money look at the

00:48:52.740 super bowl super bowl commercials is uh why why do they cost so much because it's tons of eyeballs

00:48:57.500 every eyeball you get is worth money it's worth advertising dollars it's it's potential customers

00:49:02.300 It's product placement.

00:49:03.280 It's all of this kind of stuff.

00:49:04.560 So every second your eyes are on anything other than what they want you to be on, they're losing money.

00:49:08.740 That's how they think about it.

00:49:09.820 So they're trying to get your eyeballs onto something 24-7. 0.82

00:49:12.260 So you're never – if they had it their way, it would be like – you ever see that Wally movie where everybody is just fat, gross, and they're just – just these disgusting things floating in their chairs.

00:49:21.160 And they're just going to screen like stapled to the front of them, and they're just – food is delivered.

00:49:25.040 Like that's basically how ideally – because that's where you're going to get the most money.

00:49:29.920 There's always – how do you get more money out of them?

00:49:32.460 How do you get more money out of this?

00:49:33.700 How do we get more money out of that?

00:49:35.060 Instead of how do we make this – is anybody doing good?

00:49:38.400 Why do we have an assisted suicide program?

00:49:40.660 Why is suicide the number nine leading cause of death in Canada?

00:49:43.900 Why is everybody so depressed?

00:49:45.100 We've got more technology and comforts than ever, and everybody's depressed.

00:49:47.820 Everybody's on drugs.

00:49:48.520 Everybody's on pills.

00:49:49.620 Over half the population are on some kind of pills.

00:49:52.160 Guess what?

00:49:52.540 They cost money too.

00:49:54.060 Those billionaires are making lots of money.

00:49:55.600 They're not trying to figure out why so many people are on pills.

00:49:58.320 It's like Lord of War, that Nicolas Cage movie.

00:50:00.740 how do we arm the other twin you know so many people uh seven out of ten are armed armed people

00:50:06.640 how do we arm the other three how do we sell more pharmaceutical drugs to the other 45 that aren't

00:50:11.700 on them that's the goal it's not how do we are these people healthy who cares who cares get

00:50:17.380 them all on drugs give them all tens of millions of drugs get a vaccine drip it just drips into

00:50:22.660 your bloodstream every day you just plug it in you just stick your arm out the window and a drone

00:50:27.880 comes by and just sticks you with something because there's another 20 bucks for pfizer up

00:50:31.760 and down your whole neighborhood there's it just it's just uh it never ends yeah it's never gonna

00:50:36.500 end until it all just falls apart and i think the the social cohesion in the fabric is is falling

00:50:42.680 apart because what made it work in the first place is that people did care they did care about their

00:50:47.160 countries and their communities and their families and they would do things you know to look out for

00:50:51.420 them at their best interest and now we've we're being preyed upon by predators that have no long 0.90

00:50:55.960 term vision for any of it they're concerned about themselves it's literally like vampires sucking

00:51:00.520 the blood out of a out of a victim like do you think they're gonna well what about the victim

00:51:04.300 after who cares you know i got what i wanted i'm out you know do you think you know any of these

00:51:09.340 companies these billionaires they're not worried about that they don't care what happens to your

00:51:12.700 town or your province or your country they're beyond countries they've got these guys have

00:51:17.020 like six passports they have underground you know luxury mansions in new zealand and stuff they don't 0.90

00:51:22.020 give a shit money to this and and they've convinced people you know people like us are 0.78

00:51:27.700 trying to trying to help them and wake them up to this very dark reality that we're in 0.99

00:51:32.180 and they've used their you know their money and their influence to have the corporate media tell

00:51:36.200 them that people like you and i are the bad guy and we need to go away and be locked in prison

00:51:39.620 because we're interrupting the football game exactly and i mean it's that's how i try to

00:51:45.420 explain it to people when it comes to the whole vaccine it's like it's not a conspiracy it's a

00:51:50.200 business model yes it's a business model that has been around for a long time you know yeah sure

00:51:55.700 like it's a conspiracy just like coca-cola is conspiring to sell as much sugar water as possible

00:52:01.580 that's how much of a conspiracy it is but i'm sorry on that note uh you although you're free

00:52:07.280 on bail right now correct me if i'm wrong you still have a battle so yeah and speaking of money

00:52:15.060 and attention well i have everyone's attention you should go into the description that is where

00:52:19.940 you can donate to jerry help him like they can help him you know continue on his battle in his

00:52:27.180 lawfare fifth generational uh warfare greatly appreciated and i do want to read a couple

00:52:32.600 super chats here from jew h here we be in it now thank you so much for the hundred dollars jew h

00:52:40.380 uh and we got i think it's pronounced you oh is it is it you h the j is silent greg okay i don't

00:52:48.160 mistake uh gnostic academy with 11 and 11 cents god bless the both of you thanks for being genuine

00:52:55.100 patriots much love marty leads thank you sir thank you very much and we got another one from 0.99

00:53:01.660 real donkey kong four dollars and 20 cents so glad to hear you man hashtag fuck you make me 0.99

00:53:08.220 um he said ffym but i you know fuck it i'm sure he's excited yeah well i mean i think we all are 0.99

00:53:17.160 man it's it's great to see you it's great to see you uh free uh you are uh actually i won't disclose 0.86

00:53:24.140 um uh are you going to be streaming later are you going to be back with your podcast

00:53:32.900 it's probably be sooner than you think uh i might i may we'll see you'll have to you'll

00:53:40.920 have to keep your eyes peeled to the telegram board um i just put a little video but on there

00:53:45.200 that's where I put everything because I'm banned for life

00:53:47.840 from Twitter as a human, as a person

00:53:49.900 banned from a lot of things

00:53:51.860 but you know Telegram seems to be

00:53:53.700 seems to be okay for now

00:53:55.500 but you can always find my social media links and stuff

00:53:57.560 on the website RagingDistant.com

00:53:59.040 and the Telegram page is where that

00:54:01.560 will be so as soon as I know

00:54:03.260 you will know and your phone

00:54:05.360 will make noises and you will be annoyed

00:54:07.340 and turn it off and then unsubscribe

00:54:09.180 and then forget all about me

00:54:10.880 and go back to sleep, just go back to sleep

00:54:13.500 in the watch the football game i've i've been i've been missing your streams man ever since

00:54:18.900 ever since the convoy you were the only person who made any sense because after the convoy it

00:54:25.400 was pat we had gone past the pale you know the the the mask of the liberal government had fallen

00:54:31.560 off and it's like oh my god you're an authoritarian just like we thought look look i can see your

00:54:36.600 authoritarian face right there yeah and uh it had gone past the pale and you're you're online

00:54:43.520 making some no i felt like even alternative media was kind of like oh like the the urgency

00:54:50.420 wasn't there the urgency wasn't wasn't anywhere to be stepped on stepped at

00:54:57.340 dot com and of course what happened after that we gotta get this guy in jail somehow we gotta

00:55:03.900 And I think that's why, I mean, I appreciate anybody that's willing to, you know, do something, do anything that they can, say something.

00:55:10.760 If you see something, say something, you know.

00:55:12.480 But it's, we know, right?

00:55:15.480 You know you live in a scary place when people are afraid to talk.

00:55:19.740 People are afraid to say things out loud.

00:55:22.820 And people know that if you say or talk about certain things in public, your life will get worse.

00:55:28.920 And things will happen to you and you're going to have problems.

00:55:31.500 Just for talking, you know.

00:55:33.540 just for having a discussion and that's we all subconsciously know that and i you know obviously 0.86

00:55:38.520 i don't i don't give a shit i'll say anything to anybody if i feel like it i i will i don't 0.97

00:55:44.160 i just gave up caring about stuff like that a long time ago but but most people do and and and it's 0.96

00:55:49.520 it is frightening especially i remember when i first started out you're worried about what other

00:55:52.980 people are going to think what's going to happen you know how this is going to go so even you know

00:55:56.520 they'll timidly make some noise or try to but there's always that looming like you know i don't

00:56:00.500 want to draw all the attention. You know, I don't want to, it's like being one of the guys on the

00:56:03.740 beach, everybody's shooting at you. You know, I don't, I don't want to be the guy with the

00:56:07.600 flamethrower. Like they're definitely going to shoot at me or the radio, you know, like that's

00:56:11.740 somebody else. I'm here, but you'll, I'll go after you, you know, I'll hang out back here for a bit.

00:56:18.300 Oh, the president is calling. Oh my God. Well, you better pick it up.

00:56:24.380 He's probably just lost his, is there, do you have ice cream over there? No, I don't Joey.

00:56:28.780 no this is this is canada this is the wrong person you're calling no i'm not a pizza parlor

00:56:35.140 parlor uh alexander cabana sent in ten dollars you're doing great kid

00:56:40.640 uh i want to bring doing great i want to bring this speaking of

00:56:47.820 oh yeah i i think you know is do we have free speech in this country when you know aside from

00:56:58.100 the laws there is so much social pressure it seems and you know step out of line if you say

00:57:04.000 the wrong thing because in a way there's already this lack of freedom of speech just socially with

00:57:09.440 like social consequences and i think that's starting to grow in america but that's been

00:57:13.400 in canada i think unfortunately for for a little while now yeah and it's like we've lost it like

00:57:20.360 it used to be something that was respect i mean there's laws right um they'll say you know technically

00:57:26.560 you can say this or that, but there's going to be consequences. That's not how it's supposed to be.

00:57:30.780 There's supposed to be an understanding that you're allowed to say and believe, you know,

00:57:34.520 things, and if you don't like it, then you don't like it. But that doesn't give you the right to

00:57:37.860 then conspire to have someone's job taken away or, you know, the things that they do, like the

00:57:43.080 social pressures and the cancel culture, all this kind of stuff. So it's like the spirit of what

00:57:48.420 that means, you know, to have free speech and freedom of thought and freedom of expression.

00:57:52.260 that's dead that doesn't exist it's like this is an this is a pesky irritating technicality that

00:57:58.360 well they still can say what they want but we'll find other ways to punish them we'll find other

00:58:02.160 ways to get them and we'll collectively scheme together in the night like goblins and and find

00:58:07.380 some way to to harm them and and harm their their reputation their their income whatever it is we'll

00:58:12.920 put them in jail we'll do what we gotta do um so that's disturbing um you know what i mean like

00:58:18.860 that's not that's not this the spirit of it is is certainly gone um legally you're kind of

00:58:23.800 protected but we don't really have free speech in Canada there's a lot of things you can say

00:58:26.320 here that'll you'll be in jail for that you that you could get away with in America that you can't

00:58:31.420 hear America I think is the only country left that or ever that that that does have and protect that

00:58:36.500 um yeah so you know and and speaking of people speaking out and taking a risk to speak out

00:58:44.060 and we were talking about sports balls players earlier did you see uh did you see this here

00:58:50.020 it did yeah this is uh carrie price the um you know montreal canadians goalie he tweeted this

00:58:58.380 this photo out oh my god i'm gonna cover you up here for a sec um i love my family i love my

00:59:03.600 country and i care for my neighbor i am not a criminal or a threat to society what justin

00:59:08.060 trudeau is trying to do is unjust i support the ccfr uh to keep my hunting tools thank you for

00:59:15.160 listening to my opinion uh did you see this yeah yeah and then the montreal canadians threw him

00:59:22.860 under the bus threw him under the bus and and and look at this uh look at this headline as well

00:59:28.180 harry price said he didn't then his tone deafness him won they're coming after this guy

00:59:37.640 for voicing like a very

00:59:39.660 plain

00:59:41.200 borderline, in my opinion, like mundane

00:59:43.680 opinion. It's kind of like, yeah, I think

00:59:45.620 this is unjust.

00:59:46.940 It's because he's

00:59:49.360 Carey Price and because a lot of people know who he is.

00:59:51.620 He's got a big following. So he's going to influence

00:59:53.540 people. Influence

00:59:54.860 his power and any that the government

00:59:57.500 doesn't have

00:59:58.200 control over, it's going to destroy

01:00:01.360 it. It's going to try and co-opt it

01:00:02.720 and control it. And if that can't, then it'll just

01:00:05.440 destroy it. It'll just ruin your life and make you

01:00:07.460 a pariah um so that's that's what i mean there's a million probably a million people posting the

01:00:11.700 same things like that why aren't they attacking them because they're not carrie price that's why 1.00

01:00:15.280 because he's going to have more of an effect and and why they again like no respect no okay well

01:00:20.660 that's what he thinks that's what he's allowed to think he's allowed to say that no we're going to

01:00:24.720 make him do an apology we're going to you know make a big spectacle out of it the team's going

01:00:28.900 to and there is this the uh it's the it's the 30th anniversary of the the poly technique killings i

01:00:33.460 think is that what's going on we're still politicizing people's deaths from three decades

01:00:37.600 ago to this you know endless aim of eliminating the idea of a murder we're going to eliminate

01:00:44.400 murder by banning all kinds of uh you know you know weapons everything it's it's not it doesn't

01:00:51.120 make any difference it's never going to we also live next to the biggest weapons manufacturer on

01:00:55.000 planet earth so i don't think that's going to have any uh there's not going to be any stopping the

01:01:00.160 the flow of weapons north of the border by you know organized crime and so on who are going to

01:01:04.360 make a killing now you know yeah it's just going to make it such much more of a lucrative business

01:01:09.700 like when they decriminalized uh they didn't decriminal they legalized sorry uh you know

01:01:13.900 marijuana and they you know they lost money yeah because people can just grow it themselves or

01:01:19.620 they can just get it at the store when you do this it's just gonna the same people that want

01:01:23.500 to get you know uh weapons to hurt people will still do it uh except now they're going to make

01:01:29.080 even more money because it's harder to do uh you know there's there's less and there are people

01:01:33.100 that feel like they want them they're not going to be hard to find you know it's not going to be

01:01:36.880 it's not hard to find weapons if they don't you know um half the guys i was in just i was just

01:01:41.700 in jail with they're all on in their own weapon multiple you know caught with guns a bunch of

01:01:45.460 times you know they're in there six seven eight ten times were they legal they're just going to

01:01:49.520 go right back out they're just going to do it again were they legal firearms here no no they

01:01:53.940 they were no i thought there were no legal illegal firearms in canada i thought it was

01:01:58.920 crazy crazy now i i think that uh this is very relevant to the conversation about uh fifth

01:02:07.460 generation because in a way these you know social media posts by popular people it's almost like

01:02:13.000 that's part of the arsenal that's kind of the uh that's that's part of the weapons that you have

01:02:17.900 using your platform to to influence people and strategically they're obviously trying to

01:02:23.840 take out gary price how dare you say something that uh you know opposes the regime right yeah

01:02:29.900 and good for him for you know for doing that i mean i'm sure he anticipated there would be some 0.97

01:02:33.940 some pushback for that he's not you know he's not stupid but um it's pretty ridiculous how far

01:02:39.640 they've gone though i think it's it's so i made a tweet earlier uh that i think you know speaks to 0.93

01:02:46.220 it the unique brand of cancel culture in canada is extremely cringe as it belligerently encourages 0.98

01:02:51.640 stupidity insecurity and an unfounded hypersensitivity to every possible dimension 0.99

01:02:57.660 of how something might be construed as offensive it's like oh he he he made a message about uh this 1.00

01:03:04.340 you know time sensitive bill he made a comment about a time sensitive bill and it was a few days

01:03:10.460 away from some from some anniversary of a shooting doesn't he know that and it's like yeah are you

01:03:16.020 guys kidding me right now doesn't he know that probably not i mean he's my age you know he's

01:03:20.900 like i don't remember it was a baby with this who you know it's 30 years ago it wasn't like it

01:03:24.900 happened last year or last week you know it's it's really reaching but the other problem with

01:03:31.000 this is that this has become an industry the outrage industry is is where um i saw a funny

01:03:36.540 little cartoon somebody sent me the other day about how um you know what the news used to be

01:03:40.160 it was just the news and it was boring because it was generally the same thing every day there

01:03:43.440 wasn't a whole lot to you know and then the competitors come in and start you know scaring

01:03:47.820 people and saying crazy stuff and high-speed car chases and all this so it's it's now become again

01:03:52.080 the competition for eyeballs so outraging people and creating villains and creating all kinds of

01:03:57.720 you know it's like a reality show it's just drama everywhere out of nothing but that's what they do

01:04:02.740 to to make money and to get clicks so they go looking for it when they can't find any they

01:04:06.940 just invent it or they'll just create it out of nothing out of thin air uh you know and there you

01:04:11.780 go there's your news cycle for the day there's your clicks there's your paycheck go home and

01:04:15.160 see you tomorrow we'll see who the villain is tomorrow we'll find someone else who needs to

01:04:19.040 be canceled or destroyed or you know something else you got to be outraged about tomorrow you'll

01:04:22.980 completely forget about has george floyd gotten justice yet by the way has that been is there

01:04:27.900 justice for justice for floyd floyd has been his justice been delivered i'm not sure they'll just

01:04:32.780 move on to something else is that you know as pigtail girl has greta thunberg is that sorted 1.00

01:04:38.560 out now has the earth been saved it has ukraine been it doesn't matter it's just something else 0.76

01:04:43.360 every day because it's that's where the money is is chasing people's outrage and attention and 0.92

01:04:47.700 they have short attention spans so that'll you know it's it's dumb but yeah the gun ban stuff is 0.95

01:04:52.660 told you we told you yeah i've been saying you've got these useless gun lobbies in canada especially 0.93

01:04:59.840 they don't uh if you can't and everyone knows it they'll say you can't talk about that out loud

01:05:05.640 you can't you can't say that we don't talk about that like stuff like that here in canada

01:05:08.720 We don't do that, you know, like the NRA and stuff, stuff. And everybody knows, you know, what we're talking about. If you can't say it out loud, you can't debate it.

01:05:20.080 If you're too afraid to even speak why it's important, if not critically necessary, for a free population, a free society to be armed to a level that is as a deterrent to its state power, why that's important.

01:05:40.340 If you can't even have that discussion, you're done.

01:05:43.320 You're done.

01:05:44.120 Their argument is, well, we like our sport shooting.

01:05:46.980 Well, that's nice.

01:05:47.880 That's good for you.

01:05:48.640 But, you know, they're going to point to, you know, dead kids and these dead women and that kind of thing and say, well, your right to go, you know, shoot paper targets and paper plates does not outweigh the rights of these people not to be mass murder and so on.

01:05:59.820 And that's going to be the debate.

01:06:00.960 And you're going to lose because you refuse to engage the actual, you know, the real elephant in the room is why do you want all of the guns?

01:06:08.080 They're not getting rid of guns.

01:06:09.620 They're just going to say, I'll hang on to all of them.

01:06:12.060 You can trust me.

01:06:13.240 I'm the government.

01:06:14.300 It'll be fine.

01:06:15.480 Well, let's take a walk down memory lane and see how that's worked out.

01:06:18.980 They refuse to even have the discussion.

01:06:21.520 We don't do that in Kent.

01:06:22.980 We have sports shooting, and that's it.

01:06:25.180 Well, no one cares about sports shooting.

01:06:27.420 That's not a compelling argument.

01:06:28.940 That's not going to convince anyone about anything, especially if they're not interested in it.

01:06:35.960 So if you can't talk about it, you can't debate it, and if you can't debate it,

01:06:40.420 you can't argue these reasons back and forth for why this is important.

01:06:43.860 it is and you're just going to lose so because they're gutless to even engage in this that it's

01:06:48.420 it's all it's a foregone conclusion it's always going to be this way they're just going to keep

01:06:51.900 taking and taking and taking and there's nothing any of these lobby groups are going to do about

01:06:54.980 it they're going to launch their legal challenges and they're going to lose they're going to complain

01:06:58.280 and they're going to you know grift money i like yeah you put that up there with uh mark was

01:07:02.060 talking about how they're just basically a basically a vote machine for the cpc you know

01:07:06.440 the cpc signed all this stuff long time ago committed to the un's pledge to like rid the

01:07:11.320 world essentially of private firearm ownership that was the conservatives that did that right

01:07:15.440 and the whole thing is just it's just a game it's just a game to these people um you know and it's

01:07:21.440 if you can't be honest and talk about things that you know out in the open you're never going to get

01:07:24.500 anywhere do you think we need a second amendment here i think any freak any three any free country

01:07:31.420 should have that yeah i would i would support that if that was something that people wanted to

01:07:35.280 i you know if that was a vote if that was something people could vote on yeah i mean i think the the

01:07:41.120 aftermath and the conclusion of the trucker convoys good argument uh for that and plus on

01:07:46.480 top of that we have evidence of uh you know despite this gun ban that they're pushing right now

01:07:51.520 do we not is there not video evidence of the politicians marco mendicino being like we

01:07:56.400 that that's never gonna happen we're not gonna do that sure enough you know year later it's like oh

01:08:03.960 yeah we are doing that the carbon tax is revenue neutral greg and you're gonna make money if

01:08:08.680 anything you know and it's just temporary until this and that income tax is just temporary until

01:08:13.120 we defeat the kaiser isn't it isn't it disgusting how used to we have gotten to just like the lies

01:08:19.740 of these people who are supposed to be honorable public servants they're they're it's like they're

01:08:26.120 a beaten people they're beaten they're just willing to like yeah fine you know oh they lied

01:08:31.480 again whatever you know it's like uh oh my husband cheated on me again did he like whatever like

01:08:36.560 they're just beaten there's just they've just given up and they can uh i don't know what they

01:08:42.220 could do that would get a rise out of anybody anymore i don't know what they could say or not

01:08:46.660 like what could they not get away with at this point realistically what could they get out there

01:08:51.480 and say they're going to do that i mean when this first when they first uh broached the gun ban

01:08:56.720 after the the port-a-peak massacre there was a people were i mean it was pretty contentious

01:09:03.920 Now it's a whisper compared to back then.

01:09:08.680 And what's changed?

01:09:09.920 They've already taken a ton of firearms.

01:09:12.140 They're going to take all of the rest of them.

01:09:14.060 It's going to be a full ban before you know it.

01:09:17.220 It's just going to be straight up.

01:09:18.520 They did it in Australia.

01:09:19.480 They did it in the United Kingdom.

01:09:20.480 It's the same strategy.

01:09:21.400 It just took longer in Canada, but we'll get you eventually

01:09:23.580 because we'll just beat you down and wear you down. 0.62

01:09:26.280 We'll take it.

01:09:26.800 We just want this, and we just want that.

01:09:29.880 There's something in Canadian culture.

01:09:31.940 There's an unwillingness to confront anyone.

01:09:35.060 Everyone wants to be polite and just go along to get along and don't rock the boat.

01:09:37.820 I don't want to rock the boat.

01:09:38.900 I don't want to ruffle any feathers.

01:09:40.660 Yeah.

01:09:40.780 Yeah.

01:09:41.220 So they'll just acquiesce and agree to things just for the sake of keeping the peace and so on.

01:09:45.440 But you're giving it all away, and you're giving it all away to people that don't deserve to have this kind of power and influence over us.

01:09:51.340 And they prove it every day.

01:09:52.560 They prove it every day with the things they do, they say, they lie, they get away with.

01:09:56.760 And they have contempt for us.

01:09:59.520 They don't respect any of us.

01:10:00.760 How could they? I can't to sit there and lie all the time just through your teeth, knowing that who cares, you know, like the media is going to cover for you.

01:10:12.480 There'll be some people here and there on the Internet, but we're going to censor that, Greg.

01:10:15.860 We'll take care of that and screw it. 0.99

01:10:17.780 You know, I can say and do whatever I want because I work at Parliament fucking hell. 0.99

01:10:22.500 I can do whatever I want and I can say whatever I want. 0.98

01:10:25.400 And who is going to stop me? Who is going to stop me?

01:10:27.640 Those guys in the blue ties, we all go playing golf together.

01:10:31.420 Well, the orange tie people, he just sent me money to my charity.

01:10:34.760 We're all on the same team.

01:10:36.240 We're all working together. 1.00

01:10:37.540 We're all fucking millionaires. 0.99

01:10:39.580 We're all doing great. 0.98

01:10:41.120 None of our lives were affected by shutdowns and lockdowns.

01:10:44.420 We made money.

01:10:45.860 We invested in pharmaceutical companies, and we made money.

01:10:49.460 We're doing better.

01:10:50.280 We gave ourselves a raise.

01:10:51.460 What did we get, an 11%, 15% raise that one year?

01:10:55.100 Have you ever gotten a 15% raise?

01:10:56.540 I sure haven't.

01:10:57.640 but they did. Thank goodness for that. Don't worry. They're going to take care of it. Give

01:11:01.900 them, give them all of the speech power. We'll let them monopolize the internet, communications, 1.00

01:11:07.600 violence, everything, just the finance sector. We'll just let them control absolutely everything,

01:11:12.980 have a monopoly on everything. And we'll just quietly sit here and, and, and it'll be fine.

01:11:19.740 Sure. I'm sure these people with a horrendous track record of, of deceptive, suspicious,

01:11:25.580 uh disingenuous unethical behavior with this immense amount of power will do nothing but

01:11:31.860 benevolent things with it i'm sure i don't see there's anything to worry about you don't get

01:11:36.300 headlines like this without greasing the wheels a bit literally literally what he said oh but it

01:11:42.020 was a joke no it was very very yeah yeah absolutely just just uh i wanted to touch on uh back to your

01:11:52.160 time ours oh yeah yeah so you know i i i ran for the ppc the one time i noticed that the bias of

01:12:02.960 the media what they say on media really kind of snowballs into something really uh awful in public

01:12:09.120 life uh for example they would say things about the ppc and when i was out there uh you know going

01:12:15.260 door to door people would freak out and say oh my god you're from the ppc like you're a racist you

01:12:19.700 I had volunteers, I want to say assaulted, but they had stuff thrown at them.

01:12:24.740 I had an 18-year-old volunteer who was physically intimidated.

01:12:28.240 And this is from the biased media, and that's kind of the consequence of that.

01:12:32.560 Now, I heard you were telling me after you got out that you had a much more kind of deadly version of that behind bars,

01:12:41.700 where you were on TV, you were the big, big bad man on TV saying, 0.67

01:12:47.120 You know, the leader of Diagilon and white supremacy, this white supremacy, that racist.

01:12:51.380 And then you're in jail, an enclosed space with violent criminals who happen to be native, who happen to be indigenous. 0.93

01:12:59.560 And, you know, from what I hear in Saskatchewan, some of these native and indigenous young men are very kind of programs to be like, you know, white man bad. 0.97

01:13:07.680 And like, you know, these racists are horrible. 0.99

01:13:09.420 Like, you know, screw these people. 0.99

01:13:11.760 And you basically were telling me that this had led to altercations where it could have been bad, could have been a bad outcome, to say the least. 0.95

01:13:21.520 There was a couple incidents, yeah.

01:13:25.240 If you could put it that way, there were some shanks involved and things. 1.00

01:13:29.140 I mean, it's a jungle in there.

01:13:31.840 You're on your own, too, right?

01:13:33.020 It's not like there's someone right there.

01:13:35.380 You know, the guards are in the bubble, they call it, right?

01:13:37.860 It's like a little enclosed fortress where they just watch from behind the glass, like, what are they doing now?

01:13:42.980 Jesus Christ, these people are animals.

01:13:44.800 You know, and even then, like, if there's something going on, like, they're not going to rush in there and put themselves at risk to pull you out of there.

01:13:51.340 They're going to wait for backup.

01:13:52.340 You could be on your own for five or ten minutes getting your head kicked in if, you know, that can happen.

01:13:56.440 So it's – there's no – it's a different world in there.

01:14:01.260 I'm sure I don't have to explain that to anybody that's ever been in there before.

01:14:03.800 They'll just, you know, they'll like go in the street like, hey, fellas, let's just have a discussion about this.

01:14:07.320 As soon as it's like you're being threatened, it's just straight to straight to full violence immediately.

01:14:12.040 That's the only way, you know, you got to protect yourself and you got to do what you got to do or you're going to get hurt in there.

01:14:17.260 And if they if they even, you know, smell that, you know, they can take advantage of you and lean on you.

01:14:21.380 Oh, they will have like sharks, you know.

01:14:24.040 And yeah, I'm I'm in there.

01:14:26.420 It's on the TV. It's on the newspaper every day.

01:14:28.540 Fame, you know, infamous, you know, white supremacist terrorist leader, potentially rapist, you know, is. 1.00

01:14:35.080 Did they include that? Oh, yeah. 1.00

01:14:37.240 Oh, they dragged me through the coals over there on CTV all the time.

01:14:41.420 Every time I had a court dater, they just spun it all up all over again.

01:14:44.760 So, yeah, there was a few, you know, guys that liked to watch TV and didn't like that.

01:14:48.840 And there were some issues there.

01:14:50.260 But for the most part, I got along with quite a few of them.

01:14:53.880 But, yeah, there was, especially early on, there was a couple of, you know.

01:14:58.980 But, yeah, you know, you've got people, you know, people send me mean messages and this and that.

01:15:05.120 Like, well, there's been people, and I'll bring one of them up specifically here, this so-called—and I'm trying to track her down.

01:15:11.680 If anyone knows who Elizabeth Simons is, if this is a real person or not, I'd really like to talk to her because she's one of the people of many that is being basically leaned on as the expert on me.

01:15:26.500 She's quoted in dozens of publications telling people that I'm a white supremacist and a racist and a terrorist, potentially, and things like that.

01:15:35.660 So that's the story and the character that they've built around me.

01:15:39.660 And it very, you know, it led to, you know, life-threatening situations for me because of the lies that they've told.

01:15:45.300 And that's something that I, you know, had to deal with there and I'll, you know, deal with, you know, ongoing on an ongoing basis.

01:15:50.760 So if anyone knows who this person is, they refuse to comment.

01:15:54.120 They refuse to give any contact information or refuse to divulge anything like that at the Canadian Anti-Hate Network because, you know, do they really need much of an explanation?

01:16:04.820 But if anybody knows who that is or can put me in touch, I'd really appreciate it.

01:16:08.760 We're looking for you, Elizabeth.

01:16:10.300 I'd really like to have a little discussion with you if that is your real name, you know.

01:16:16.640 But that's – and it's not just me.

01:16:19.560 They do this to all kinds of people.

01:16:20.880 They ruin people's reputations and they encourage people to commit violence on you, you know, by inference.

01:16:27.080 There was people taking pictures of Morgan's house saying, what would you do if a Nazi lived on your street?

01:16:33.540 Well, let's see.

01:16:34.560 What did we do with the Nazis, Greg? 0.53

01:16:35.940 We hunted them across the earth to the present day and hung a lot of them and shipped them off to Israel for trials and had them executed and so on. 0.97

01:16:45.480 So is that what you're saying? 0.90

01:16:46.680 I should be hunted down and executed? 0.99

01:16:48.660 it's not a small thing 1.00

01:16:51.100 to call people this kind of stuff

01:16:53.620 when there's no evidence

01:16:54.720 where's your evidence of any of it

01:16:56.240 there isn't any

01:16:57.040 but they just have a blank check to say

01:16:59.580 whatever they want about whoever they want 0.99

01:17:01.680 and damn the consequences 0.98

01:17:02.940 and then cry about it 0.99

01:17:06.000 when people are angry at them

01:17:07.640 for being lied to

01:17:09.120 and say that it's

01:17:09.860 you're inciting hate

01:17:11.640 the irony

01:17:12.440 because they'll say that I'm inciting people

01:17:14.980 to commit violence and do these kinds of things

01:17:16.720 And when I've, as far as I can tell, the only violence that's been incited or, you know, perpetrated as a result of anything I've said has been towards myself based upon the people reporting on me.

01:17:31.980 And I don't expect an apology from them anytime soon because they're just going to double down.

01:17:36.320 And again, they're never going to admit they're wrong.

01:17:37.900 It's the age of narcissism.

01:17:38.980 Everybody's a victim, especially them.

01:17:43.120 So, yeah, it's, you know, be careful in jail, kids.

01:17:46.720 It's not it's not a not a not a nice environment to be in.

01:17:51.480 But, yeah, there's there's you're going to you're going to run into the problem when you're when you're an infamous white supremacist in a jail full of 98 percent, you know, native gang members.

01:18:00.840 It's it's can go it can go a number of ways.

01:18:05.040 You when you first told me that story, he's telling me, you know, Jeremy's telling me this story over the phone.

01:18:10.600 and you know you're so kind of casual about it like oh yeah and then they were trying to corner

01:18:15.740 me and surround me and this is how i got out of it and it's just like jeremy like you're the only

01:18:20.820 type of person who would so casually be talking about anyone else this would be the scariest

01:18:26.300 moment of their life a life or death situation and you're just like oh yeah they try to surround

01:18:30.840 me and i just top seven through this guy you know choke that guy whatever i was fine um so top seven

01:18:37.200 top seven maybe top eight it's up there i don't know man you're you're it's just that's just how

01:18:42.920 i that's just how i i cope i mean i've uh the first time i've ever shot at i was laughing

01:18:46.660 i was giggling you know not because it wasn't terrifying but because that's just how my body

01:18:50.460 that's just the way my brain's wired you know i was sitting there like a defense mechanism yeah

01:18:55.040 yeah it's you can you know you can laugh or you can cry but you know one of these things is going

01:18:59.480 to carry you a lot further than the other um you know one guy was a couple of times one one guy

01:19:03.760 took some shots at us one time uh first time for very very first time but it was just like one guy

01:19:08.720 at night somewhere we never found him but took a couple of shots at me another guy because he was

01:19:12.540 smoking a cigarette at night and you can see that from pretty far away and we were like i don't know

01:19:16.580 if you should be smoking that he's like what's gonna happen bullet comes right through the tower

01:19:21.120 whoa you know we kind of like we're giggling about it but then another the first real uh you know

01:19:26.200 gun fight we got into it was you know me and my buddy uh yeah uh dicky were behind this wall and

01:19:32.000 you know, we're both laughing. He's talking about, uh, yeah, it, it was funny, but it wasn't like,

01:19:37.140 it was terrifying, but it was also like, this is just how you deal with it. Um, it's, it's more,

01:19:41.500 it's better than, you know, Oh my God, then you're having a mental breakdown. You're still,

01:19:45.200 you're still there. You still got a job to do and you got to deal with it. And that's just probably

01:19:47.620 how, you know, guys are, you're trained and programmed or conditioned or so on, but that's

01:19:51.320 just how it, that's just how it comes out. I'm, I'm, uh, maybe I'm crazy. I laugh. I laugh about,

01:19:57.220 laugh about things when are that are probably not funny but that's just uh you know everybody

01:20:03.660 processes things differently and that's that's just how i do it and um i'm glad it was me and

01:20:08.940 not someone else um i will say this you know it wasn't like i said i've been in worse places it

01:20:13.880 wasn't it wasn't that bad um but i wouldn't want to be going i wouldn't want to be just off of

01:20:18.940 right out of the street like you work at sobeys you know and you get in a you get a dui or something

01:20:23.660 or something happens to just your regular, normal person,

01:20:26.520 and then they'll just throw you in there with these animals, you know.

01:20:29.920 It would be a shock, a culture. 1.00

01:20:32.600 I mean, there's no privacy whatsoever, you know.

01:20:34.760 There's no doors on the toilets.

01:20:36.220 There's no shower, nothing.

01:20:38.340 It's just wide open all the time, and you're not in there with soft people, generally.

01:20:44.520 You're in there with some pretty, like most of the guys in there

01:20:47.060 have been in there numerous, multiple times, been to the pen and back,

01:20:49.620 So you're not dealing with people that are shy to hurt you if they feel inclined.

01:20:56.000 You know what I mean?

01:20:56.860 So it would be scary for a lot of people, I would say.

01:21:02.160 And I wanted to go back to the allegations of torture, the idea that you're only outside of a cell for 30 minutes a day.

01:21:10.140 When you were in Afghanistan, did you ever have prisoners of war that you held captive?

01:21:15.260 And how are they treated compared to that?

01:21:17.640 We played Scrabble.

01:21:18.920 you know we exchanged photos no we yeah we had pow i i would laugh i said to the guys in there

01:21:23.940 i was like we fed pow's better than this and we did you know they ate the same things that we did

01:21:27.720 the food in there was absolutely terrible um it's just every corner they could cut with that they

01:21:32.180 cut it a couple of times um but yeah i mean i don't know i mean there's different kinds of

01:21:37.740 torture right and if that's what the un says is tort i mean it i suppose um to just lock somebody

01:21:42.440 in a box all day with no yeah i mean it's it's not good i don't i don't know i'm not a psychology

01:21:47.960 expert but it very well may be um if those are the rules yeah there was just 15 minutes twice a day

01:21:53.660 when you're in that uh when you're in that situation for days you know five ten days sometimes

01:21:57.520 um when i was held in remand in dartmouth i was in i was in a cell there by myself for six days

01:22:02.960 just wait for them to come get me you know and the door never opened they put you in the door

01:22:07.680 doesn't close behind it doesn't open again for six days so you just you know find ways to i did

01:22:13.360 walked a lot of circles walking circles a lot and and i'm curious because you know when you're on

01:22:18.860 the outside like me you're active on telegram you're you know you're doing streams and stuff

01:22:24.000 like you're on technology sifting through all the sludge all all the crazy on the devices what was

01:22:29.160 it like to go from that to having no device just having a bible around maybe if you're lucky yeah

01:22:34.960 yeah it was kind of nice actually um i didn't i mean you'd be surprised you get over fast

01:22:40.800 within a day you know you're just like well because there's nothing you can do about it it's

01:22:44.700 not like the stress of like if you've lost your phone like you don't know where it is or you've 0.96

01:22:48.960 left it behind you're like ah shit it's like you're in jail they're not giving you it's just 0.88

01:22:52.400 forget about it you know it's over so it's like well there's nothing i can do about it there's 0.97

01:22:57.000 nothing to you know and it's nice not to have that uh i i definitely noticed that it it does have

01:23:03.240 a more profound impact i think on people's mental state than they realize um um i'm trying to not

01:23:10.160 be on it nearly as much to just don't pick it up i remember we talked about this before don't

01:23:14.440 the first thing you do when you wake up is don't go look at your phone you know at least get up and

01:23:17.600 go shave eat something do something first before you you go right back into this because the amount

01:23:23.140 of sensory input all the different story it's just a lot for your and i felt really um general i mean

01:23:28.120 i was fine a few people are you okay are you okay i'm fine but i did notice that uh probably the

01:23:33.960 first two days two maybe three days after i was out i was tired a lot and it was just like over

01:23:39.840 like sensory overload because i'm in this i'm in this room with 30 guys 40 guys same guys every day

01:23:46.520 everybody's wearing the same things the same thing on tv every the same food every day it's just the

01:23:50.100 same thing there's very little you know you get excited by like is it snowing out oh my god and

01:23:54.660 you're trying to look through the bars to see if like that's the that's the big update of the day

01:23:58.360 now there's snow outside so we're going to talk about that for an hour to to this to these you

01:24:02.580 know crazy um it overloads your brain i think and i think it definitely contributes a lot of

01:24:08.760 people's anxiety and and burnout and depression and so on so interesting yeah it's not good I

01:24:14.560 think I think it's something that should be limited for sure or at least managed in a way

01:24:19.080 that you'd go to work like at a certain time of the day like six seven o'clock it's done just put

01:24:23.520 it away you know watch your stories whatever it is you're gonna you know do and wind down and go

01:24:28.720 to bed but if you're on there all the time I think it it probably just to guess just to guess

01:24:33.980 because i've noticed it feels different like your um your your thoughts are definitely

01:24:38.540 it's a lot more of this pinball machine effect going on when you've got too much

01:24:42.620 too much information to think about and look at so definitely um i didn't mind having it taken

01:24:47.440 away actually yeah yeah yeah it's kind of a nice break get some uh you know people try to do a

01:24:54.100 what's it called dopamine detox and uh you're kind of forced into one right yeah and and they're

01:24:59.640 designed to keep your attention to the social it's like their uh facebook and other apps i mean

01:25:04.720 they're all the same outsourced a lot of the research and coding to people that work in casinos

01:25:09.320 to to maximize again eyeballs is money right so they want you to on this app if they could have

01:25:14.720 you on it 24 7 they would because that's the most the most money for them so it's not like it's not

01:25:19.240 made in a way to to treat you like you know we're worried about your mental health we want to and 0.67

01:25:24.720 they were doing things like experiments you remember this where it's like facebook was let's

01:25:27.560 see if we can make them depressed let's show them pictures of their ex-girlfriends you know let's do

01:25:31.220 these kinds of things and then check in and they were doing this kind of stuff they don't care about

01:25:35.100 you at all so they'll they'll get you on there 24 7 and they're trying to make it addictive like

01:25:38.640 the notifications like they're satisfying to click on right and they're the every little aspect it's

01:25:43.780 like a it's like a slot machine it's designed to make it um enjoyable for your brain to use and

01:25:48.720 you know you get those dopamine hits from especially uh especially tiktok it's got the

01:25:52.860 it's got the lever pull the lever it'll burn you out and that's another probably another reason why

01:25:57.600 people are so easily distracted and there's this it's too much you can't keep up with everything

01:26:02.280 you know by the time you figure out what's going on over here you're already you know you're a week

01:26:06.040 behind you know and the funny the really thought uh interesting thing is i thought i would be so

01:26:10.580 far behind you know i was like man it's been over two and a half months or something i don't even

01:26:14.720 know what's going on there not really much has happened no you would think there has because

01:26:19.560 there's so much news and clips and stories but of substance of real impact or even worth talking

01:26:25.540 about very little has changed in two and a half months there's a couple of things that's it you

01:26:31.700 know but they still tricked people into this 24 7 you gotta be online all you're gonna you're

01:26:36.120 gonna miss it you're gonna miss something no you're not you're not gonna miss much it's very

01:26:39.760 it's very true it's very true when you're first away for a couple days from social media you think

01:26:44.840 you've missed so much but you come back and it's like oh i just missed some videos from libs of

01:26:50.240 tiktok so i was i was caught up in about two days the first thing i saw was um i saw somebody sent

01:26:55.500 me a link to the uh is his name yay now is that yeah his name is yay formally he's doing like a

01:27:01.260 thing okay whatever right whatever is that's his name sure he's there dressed as he is you know

01:27:09.140 and alex jones is there with a with a lizard mask on and i was like what is going on how long was i

01:27:16.920 in jail exactly what is happening uh but besides that that was you know that was one of the first

01:27:21.940 things i saw so i i was concerned that things had taken a serious turn um but you know it's

01:27:27.860 more of the same generally the same there's the there's the image for you he comes out of jail

01:27:32.460 and he sees this what did i miss oh my god what philip what did you do yeah um and yeah speaking

01:27:40.820 of that we got a super chat uh from sarah jane twenty dollars thank you very much love your

01:27:45.020 content greg great to see you jeremy in a long couple months without you

01:27:48.960 uh and yeah if the mods can post a link for uh for jeremy's uh give send go as well because he

01:27:57.460 does have a long legal legal battle ahead of him and for people you know because i saw some negative

01:28:03.360 comments in chat like oh he's a grifter or whatever you haven't done anything wrong in my personal

01:28:09.380 opinion i won't go allegedly not allegedly legal reasons but um you know how much money have you

01:28:14.780 had to pay as a as a podcaster with a with a controversial you know dissident podcast how much

01:28:22.040 does that cost you uh so far uh i've probably paid about well i had probably about 40 000 to

01:28:31.720 my previous lawyer and this guy maybe 70 70 to 80 somewhere ballpark yeah and uh it's going to be

01:28:39.120 another um 100k or so this is the guys this is the price to for speaking out in canada this is

01:28:48.940 what happens they they come up they come after you they say i've got to take uh i've got to take

01:28:53.300 equity out of my house and and you know sell some things and so on and that's just like i said you're

01:28:58.780 you're only innocent if you can afford to be there's no uh it's crazy there's no if you can't

01:29:03.880 afford a decent lawyer it makes all the difference in the world that's the only advice if you get in 0.99

01:29:09.260 trouble get a fucking lawyer do not do well actually the magna carta says this is all you 0.98

01:29:16.500 Don't be doing any of these Facebook lawyers or any of this stuff. 1.00

01:29:19.860 You're going to get absolutely raped, okay? 0.99

01:29:22.280 They're going to absolutely destroy you, and especially if you're, you know, maybe somebody like myself where there's a lot of motivation to bury you. 1.00

01:29:29.720 They're not looking to make friends.

01:29:30.800 They're not looking to help you out.

01:29:31.700 They're just trying to bury you.

01:29:32.780 They're trying to, you know, help their own career and so on.

01:29:34.640 So they're going all the way.

01:29:35.900 The stuff that I saw, blow your hair back, you know, and I can't wait.

01:29:40.220 Someday when this is all over, I can tell you all about it.

01:29:42.440 But, you know, it's pretty wild.

01:29:46.000 It's pretty wild what they'll try to do and get away with.

01:29:48.560 But, yeah, you need to get somebody that can represent your interests and argue for you in a competent way and is going to do the work and do the research and all that.

01:29:58.740 Because otherwise, it's a stack deck.

01:30:00.420 It's stacked entirely against you.

01:30:02.260 You're already guilty as far as people are concerned because, well, you wouldn't be in jail if you weren't guilty of something, you know, the way people are.

01:30:08.540 And the longer you're in there, the worse it's going to be for you at trial and stuff like that.

01:30:12.140 So it's all it takes, actually, in Canada is just for somebody to accuse you.

01:30:16.520 And then the police will say, OK, and they can arrest you and take you away and throw you in jail.

01:30:20.180 And then it's up to you to get yourself out of there if you can, if you can afford to.

01:30:24.080 Yeah. So, yeah, make sure you do donate to Jeremy if you can, because he has a long legal battle ahead of him.

01:30:29.960 On the plus side, he has an amazing guy fighting for him.

01:30:33.340 Shouts out to Sharif Foda.

01:30:35.820 I was hopefully I'm allowed to say this.

01:30:38.300 I was able to tune into one of your bail hearings.

01:30:41.260 i wouldn't say anything about it it's all publication man right well he he definitely

01:30:46.640 uh is a great guy like a great investment he knows what he's doing so you know the

01:30:52.480 the money is going to a good a good place right so yeah um so i want to be respectful of your

01:31:00.720 time here we've been at it for an hour and a half jeremy uh yeah no problem you got some you got

01:31:06.360 some time oh yeah yeah i'm just sitting around grifting yeah right um so uh yeah i wanted to

01:31:17.320 bring up i wanted to bring up all people i wanted to bring up this this i don't want to put you on

01:31:23.520 the spot but somehow i have a lot to say about it but um and i guess i'll just say like you know

01:31:33.160 i've been thinking about that situation of you make this joke on a late night stream and it just

01:31:38.800 kind of gets thrust into the spotlight and everybody's watching this like out of context

01:31:43.220 joke and you know trying to derive like your entire character from it um and it was really

01:31:50.740 messed up to see because you know i i think if you have the proper context for the joke i actually

01:31:56.660 think it's a funny joke i think it's something that's controversial it's crazy it's kind of like

01:32:00.480 your brand of dark humor that's but um what ended up happening is small pp uh wanted a lot of people

01:32:09.660 to see this joke apparently he's like i'm gonna tweet about this joke so more people find it i

01:32:14.920 guess um and it just seemed to intentionally take it out of context and not only that it was like

01:32:22.140 i don't actually gonna i'm not gonna even though this guy calls himself a comedian even though

01:32:26.320 this person was praising my wife earlier in this stream uh where he makes this joke i'm actually

01:32:32.440 not going to give him the benefit of the doubt and i'm actually going to assume that this might

01:32:36.380 be a threat uh to my wife um and and so many people unfortunately took that cue and ran with

01:32:45.640 it and really thought wow that character that how this is really is it just seems like you know

01:32:52.900 classic cancel culture tactics but um obviously the timing was fascinating because it's literally

01:32:59.160 the day before you got thrown in jail um what uh what is what has your thoughts been on this

01:33:06.380 on this on this whole thing because it happened just before you went inside

01:33:10.000 um and i mean what was it like to have the leader of the opposition to basically like criminalize

01:33:17.240 or a late night comment well you know i've already i've already talked about this at length a few

01:33:22.840 times and i publish stuff on substack and i've you know these journalists they just they don't

01:33:26.660 care i i've already said it you know a hundred times and it's all out there for them to go look

01:33:31.540 at if they want you know i it's disappointing you'd think somebody like that in his position

01:33:35.240 and stature would have more important things to do with this time um and it's a lot of you know

01:33:40.360 cancel culturey kind of you know people want somebody to it's the outrage olympics it's like

01:33:45.900 uh 1984 is uh four eight minutes of hate whatever it is you know what i mean yeah yeah they're just

01:33:52.100 there always has to be somebody to to focus on hating because if not then maybe they'll 0.97

01:33:56.940 look at them um and it's yeah it's it's stupid i don't have much to say about it anymore at this 0.89

01:34:03.600 point but yeah no absolutely and what i found most disturbing about it you know this intentionally 0.92

01:34:12.240 taking your words out of context like a terrible like that's something that'll do uh to you know

01:34:20.160 criminalize you and sick the rcmp on you that's something that the canadian establishment is

01:34:25.380 already doing to you it's like as for everything i've ever said about the prime minister and

01:34:29.800 they have never called the cops on me yeah yeah absolutely you know uh yeah it's it's disturbing

01:34:39.180 it's but and yeah especially among the like the right-wing people and stuff it was interesting

01:34:43.720 to see the the dog piling and the who all of a sudden the pearl clutching oh my oh no yeah okay

01:34:50.920 well okay well and what really pissed me off about that is you know i can understand you know that

01:34:57.160 that humor that joke was definitely not but it's but it's also just the way that people used to

01:35:02.660 complain about lenny bruce and he they make like this is a late night comedy like a smoky comedy

01:35:07.880 club like you're not supposed to not everyone's supposed to enjoy it right there's uh you know

01:35:12.180 family guy makes light of pedophiles constantly you know yeah and there's is that and it's uh

01:35:19.100 it's just how it like if you don't like something then don't don't listen to it or don't appreciate

01:35:25.520 it i guess i mean there was a there was a speaking of family guy there was one that i i remember i

01:35:29.700 thought because somebody ever somebody asked me is a cool if you ever have you don't know what

01:35:32.840 it's like to be offended by jokes i'm like actually there was one uh that actually just

01:35:38.620 remember that was on Family Guys specifically, was there was a parade.

01:35:42.780 It was like the, maybe Thanksgiving Day parade

01:35:46.620 or something in the United States, and it was a float that was going by, and it

01:35:50.660 was the Iraq-Afghanistan war veterans that weren't wounded or killed, and they're

01:35:54.620 all like partying. You're like, woo, yeah, fuck yeah, I'm fine, fuck all you dead 1.00

01:35:58.540 guys. It was like they had won, they had escaped, and good for them, they're all 1.00

01:36:02.640 happy. It was like, it was

01:36:04.920 it was a little uh you know for me personally right i get it it's funny i guess but i was like

01:36:11.340 yeah i didn't like that one too much because it's like obviously a lot of my friends did get hurt

01:36:15.800 and killed and continue to do so another guy just found out for you while i was in there a month ago

01:36:20.440 um he passed away like it's it's ongoing so i mean people make jokes about stuff like that but

01:36:25.320 no one calls the cops and uh you know says you know around there they just go well it's it's

01:36:31.700 manufactured if the outrage machine pointed at seth mcfarlane or or whoever and said this person

01:36:37.200 needs to be destroyed now because then the mob will follow they'll they'll follow whatever uh

01:36:42.240 they decide to do and but the real interesting part uh was so many people that acted as though

01:36:46.520 they're not that way you know they're like oh trust me i don't i don't buy into this mainstream

01:36:52.580 bullshit i they right on the train you know right on it because it was well that's my guy and that's 0.90

01:36:58.040 my team you know the thinking stops entirely and uh they're just as susceptible to it so 0.99

01:37:02.720 very true very true you know like uh we got to look out for the hate to say it but we got to

01:37:09.000 look out for the npcs uh on the right as well because sometimes that does happen and uh they're

01:37:15.360 they're more of a problem in my opinion i i think the fake conservatives and the fake right wing uh

01:37:22.340 uh you want to talk about grifters i mean these people that are just playing a character or they're

01:37:26.880 They're not really into this.

01:37:28.460 They don't really care.

01:37:29.540 This is just kind of their niche little world where they, you know, they pretend.

01:37:34.000 And they're just, they're not really about any of this stuff.

01:37:37.480 And when it comes down to it, you'll see it, right?

01:37:41.000 A lot of people, I've said, especially these days or the last few years,

01:37:45.040 they think they're conservatives, but they're not.

01:37:48.300 They're liberals.

01:37:49.000 They just don't like the prime minister.

01:37:51.020 That's what it comes down to.

01:37:52.660 You know, when they say, well, what about this policy?

01:37:54.680 What about that?

01:37:55.180 What about that?

01:37:55.520 you'll be surprised to find they'll all be very okay with the liberal platform.

01:38:00.320 And they're all very, you know, all about that stuff.

01:38:03.720 And what really it boils down to is, I don't like the guy with the socks.

01:38:07.460 You know, but it's like, so you are a liberal, you just don't like, because all of these things,

01:38:11.480 you know, all these policies and all these ideas and values and stuff we could go through

01:38:15.380 are traditionally conservative concepts or, you know, right-wing traditional conservative,

01:38:19.740 you know, values and so on.

01:38:21.140 And you'll say that that's fascism or whatever, because that's what the news,

01:38:24.300 Like, they're completely – they don't even know where they are.

01:38:26.820 It's just – it's very shallow, you know, and it's – I don't know.

01:38:31.600 What, are you going to expect more of people?

01:38:33.120 I mean, have you been out there, Greg?

01:38:34.360 Have you seen people?

01:38:35.700 You can't expect very much of them.

01:38:37.700 You know, they're following arrows on the ground at the grocery store with the masks on.

01:38:40.500 And now they're going to say they never did that.

01:38:42.120 No, I never did that.

01:38:43.200 That was me.

01:38:44.140 I never did that.

01:38:44.980 Sure you didn't.

01:38:45.740 Sure you didn't.

01:38:46.240 I saw all of you doing it.

01:38:47.480 I saw you all doing it.

01:38:49.060 And I'm Pierre Polyev, and I've always stood up against mandates.

01:38:53.440 all the time i i never endorsed that yeah okay buddy and it's like surfing he's a great surfer

01:39:00.340 you know you know what surfers do they just paddle along until the wave comes in and then

01:39:05.040 they just jump right on top of it and sail it home and that's uh that's what professional

01:39:09.400 politicians do and they'll let someone like uh you know like the other guys like uh hillier and

01:39:15.040 bernier and sloan and all these other guys that were going out and you know being chastised and

01:39:20.040 And, you know, Roman Baber, a whole bunch of, I can't remember them all, but, you know, they'll take these unpopular positions, anti, you know, what the government narrative is, and they'll be dragged with the coals over it, beaten and, you know.

01:39:31.440 Getting arrested, taking the arrows, yep.

01:39:34.520 Right, yeah, taking the slings and arrows, and then when it becomes politically advantageous, you'll have someone like that, you know, come in.

01:39:43.000 I saw Ferry shared a pretty funny meme.

01:39:44.740 It was like some rich, I don't know who it was, some rich old guy putting in a railroad spike, you know.

01:39:50.040 And he's like, here I am, like, pretending like I did anything at the very end when really I just showed up for a photo op to make it look like I did any of this.

01:39:59.060 And, you know, I compared it to, like, old wars back in the Middle Ages and stuff.

01:40:03.180 They would have – there would be kind of a policy. 0.97

01:40:05.220 Some guys would be like, if there's no blood on your sword, we'll kill you. 0.93

01:40:07.640 You know, it means you were hiding the whole time. 0.95

01:40:09.140 You weren't fighting.

01:40:09.880 You were just, you know, where's your sword?

01:40:11.440 Why is it all clean?

01:40:12.280 What were you doing? 0.99

01:40:13.080 And they'll stick – they'll push the sword into a dead body. 0.99

01:40:16.060 Right. 0.91

01:40:16.340 And they'll be like, yeah, we did it, guys.

01:40:17.960 Like, what do you mean we?

01:40:18.880 where were you this whole time you just showed up at the end to to collect the fanfare and act as

01:40:24.140 though you're you know it's it's it's sneaky and it's and it's not honest and uh yeah you can pick

01:40:31.780 you can picture pp's uh strategy team okay okay when do we when do we start supporting the you

01:40:37.280 know anti-lockdown people they look outside well there's a huge sea of trucks outside maybe maybe

01:40:43.360 And now's the time to support them. 0.99

01:40:46.320 They waited, you know, as a compendium of assholes, you know, conservative party. 0.99

01:40:52.180 They waited to see how it was going to play out. 0.99

01:40:55.120 They weren't here before the convoy.

01:40:58.580 They weren't saying they weren't like, you know, screaming at the rooftop.

01:41:01.880 This is insane. This is going to stop.

01:41:03.660 This never it never needed to happen.

01:41:05.980 There never should have even been a convoy.

01:41:07.620 This should never have happened.

01:41:08.960 Stuff like that happens because people are being neglected and ignored.

01:41:11.680 And it was their job to represent the interests of these people.

01:41:14.020 And rather than do so, they sat down, shut their mouths, and said, we're all in this together, which they're not.

01:41:19.020 The peer group, the political class is all in it together.

01:41:21.520 But nobody's speaking on behalf of these people.

01:41:23.520 So you've got millions of people that feel ignored and neglected and waited for the pot to boil over.

01:41:28.760 And then wait and see which way the ball is going to land on the roulette table.

01:41:32.800 And then at the last second, act like, you know, you're always there.

01:41:35.820 They're just taking advantage of it.

01:41:37.920 It doesn't matter now. 0.99

01:41:41.140 After the fact, you can say all kinds of shit, but I know who was where. 0.94

01:41:44.720 I knew where everyone was standing when it was risky to do it, 0.98

01:41:48.480 and there was no guarantee of how it was going to work.

01:41:50.260 I knew where everybody, who was who, back in February, right?

01:41:53.540 Because that was when you put it all on the line and show me what you believe.

01:41:57.420 Show me what you're willing to put your beliefs on the line.

01:41:59.540 You want to put your career on the line?

01:42:01.340 Some people did, and I respect them for that.

01:42:04.680 And some people were punished for it and had to pay for it and so on.

01:42:08.560 But if you're if you're marketing yourself as some kind of leader or somebody that's these are the things I believe and then do it, then walk the walk. 0.81

01:42:17.440 Don't sit around on the sidelines on the bench and wait until it looks like this team's going to win and then sneak in at the back, come in the back door and walk up to the podium at the end and start handing out trophies like you were here the whole fucking time because that's what they're doing. 0.99

01:42:31.500 And it's disgusting. And they, you know, no mention of any of the people that came before that paved the way for them. 0.96

01:42:37.440 They're just more than happy to, again, get on that surfboard and ride that wave all the way home and act like they're morally superior all of a sudden.

01:42:45.080 And by the way, by the way, morally superior conservative party.

01:42:49.000 How's the war crimes go? I've been gone a couple of months.

01:42:51.260 I haven't been able to keep up with all the war crimes that were being committed by the Azov battalion in Ukraine that were sending all of our money and stuff. 0.88

01:42:57.340 It turns out that's a giant laundromat as well for the Democrat Party in the United States, it seems.

01:43:02.120 So that's interesting.

01:43:02.820 Again, just as really upstanding, morally upright people that stand for doing good.

01:43:10.360 They would never fund war criminals or participate in illegal imperialistic wars all over the Middle East.

01:43:17.400 No, no.

01:43:19.160 Something like that would be odious.

01:43:21.840 Their hands are clean of any kind of, yes, odious behavior, of course.

01:43:27.460 tell me more tell me more establishment conservatives about how you're all you're all

01:43:32.200 just such it's superior people to the rest of us because you because your hands aren't dirty at all

01:43:37.320 with anything definitely not dead people not millions of dead all over the world remember

01:43:41.860 yeah i'm just gonna go off on a tangent now but i'll stop myself but uh you know they weren't uh

01:43:46.900 they weren't anywhere to be found in any of those times they just they pick and choose these it's

01:43:50.400 childish it's just it's exhausting you know you want you want more from from them you want leaders

01:43:56.140 I want people I can look up to and people I can, I can, I can trust and, and, and feel

01:44:00.640 like, you know, inspired by the, yeah, that you can trust that you, that gets you excited

01:44:06.180 that make you feel good about being Canadian.

01:44:08.820 That would be a nice start.

01:44:09.940 It's a lonely feeling.

01:44:11.320 It's a scary feeling when you feel like no one's in charge.

01:44:14.380 It's like being left home alone when you're a kid and your mom and dad aren't coming back,

01:44:17.900 you know?

01:44:18.360 And you're like, I gotta, I gotta deal this myself.

01:44:20.960 Like who's, well, who's going to, you know, somebody, there's gotta be somebody, there's

01:44:25.120 got to be an adult somewhere nope nope that's that's terrible and a lot of people i mean i'm

01:44:31.880 not the only one that feels that way i mean we all wish there was somebody that's why when you

01:44:35.860 get people like a like a trump character or something they just gravitate right into that

01:44:39.880 because they're so hungry and desperate for anyone that sounds like they can fix anything and get

01:44:44.660 things done and uh and project some kind of confidence and and you know move the ball down

01:44:50.140 the field that they'll get behind anybody at this point and that's scary too because who's coming

01:44:54.940 down the road i mean now you know what i'll say this right now if trump's gonna is he running this

01:44:59.600 election he's not going to be extreme enough for his own base he's old news they want they want

01:45:05.560 more now they want more because it's just getting worse right so yeah no i think you're i think

01:45:10.540 you're absolutely right it is going to be interesting to see what happens in the states

01:45:13.540 between uh desantis trump and now yay breaking onto the scene but i want to focus on canada

01:45:18.900 because Canadians always get way too caught up in states much.

01:45:23.940 I feel like there's kind of a growing disconnect

01:45:26.300 between what the convoy was about

01:45:28.720 and the values in the convoy

01:45:31.420 and the people at the convoy wanted

01:45:33.280 versus what PP is selling now.

01:45:36.460 Because I feel like he does the very bare minimum

01:45:38.680 to appeal to the Freedom Convoy people.

01:45:41.240 He'll say a comment here about the World Economic Forum.

01:45:44.320 He'll say a comment here about keeping us free.

01:45:46.740 But from what I can tell,

01:45:48.140 It feels like his value system is like that of an accountant, which is, we're going to save you money.

01:45:55.880 We're going to worry about money.

01:45:57.280 And that is the only thing that is, you know, that's the foundation of what this guy believes in.

01:46:02.760 And I'm like, I'm sorry, that is not enough to drive a conservative movement anywhere.

01:46:08.340 That's, you know, they lost the last couple of because no one was inspired to get off the couch and help them.

01:46:15.860 You know, what do you, why?

01:46:17.660 you know there's nothing real it gets you fired up there and that's just that's right now that's

01:46:22.160 what people are concerned about because everybody's broke the interest rate just went up today another

01:46:25.440 uh 50 basis points right like it's it's just going to keep getting worse um and at least you

01:46:31.880 know to their credit he was pointing this out for a while that this was happening but i mean anybody

01:46:35.640 with a dog's sense of an affinity to understand how you know when you max out the credit card

01:46:42.300 the bills will come and they will be expensive and um you know it's just that that's that's what

01:46:49.380 they're i mean he's trying to get elected they're all trying to get elected it's just all a big game

01:46:52.140 um if it was something else that people were upset about it would be something they'll they'll just

01:46:56.080 go where the uh go where the go where the people are what they care about what's you know upsetting

01:47:01.180 them at the time they're manipulating so the it's backwards um the politicians are are downstream of

01:47:07.820 of us as a collective as a culture if we for whatever reason if you could just snap your

01:47:13.060 fingers tomorrow and everybody in canada was just obsessed you know we need to get rid of adidas

01:47:16.900 adidas has to be gone and forever you're not going to see if that's generally what all people

01:47:22.900 wanted just bear with me you're not going to see these politicians come on go oh yes no they're

01:47:27.480 not going to say that's so crazy why this makes no sense they're just going to go i i too also

01:47:31.820 hate adidas they will just go wherever the people go because they need the votes and they want to

01:47:36.060 getting power and they want to keep making that money and they want to keep the gravy train going

01:47:38.740 it doesn't even matter if it makes sense it can be complete nonsense complete insanity

01:47:42.380 everybody we're all gonna issue everyone teddy bears that they have to keep alive or else and

01:47:47.700 they're gonna be vaccinated yes i i too support the teddy bear operate it would just it would go

01:47:52.760 on and on and on it doesn't matter so it's really our own fault you know people can blame these guys

01:47:57.580 and it's like well look what kind of a society we have what are our values sports ball and nonsense

01:48:02.660 I mean, is it any surprise we have these empty-headed, you know, empty-suit dummy people with no soul, with no drive?

01:48:09.960 I mean, that's what you asked for. 0.71

01:48:11.740 You don't care.

01:48:12.500 We put nothing into it, so we get nothing back.

01:48:15.300 You know, we're not demanding people of high character.

01:48:18.020 We're not demanding high standards.

01:48:19.380 We're not demanding and holding their feet to the fire and holding people accountable for these things.

01:48:23.620 And, you know, so you get what you deserve.

01:48:26.540 And that's the price of apathy.

01:48:27.980 And that's the price of, you know, not caring very much about anything but yourself and, you know, your own narcissistic little bubble for the last 20 years.

01:48:34.720 That's what you get for leaders.

01:48:36.200 You know, if you had a bunch of people that were like, no, no, we demand, you know, we want some serious, we want some serious people to do some, then you would get serious leaders.

01:48:44.680 But until Canada decides it wants to be a serious country, it's going to continue to have unserious, you know, clownery as, you know, leadership.

01:48:52.340 Yeah.

01:48:52.680 Yeah.

01:48:53.000 Why is Canada in such a poor state?

01:48:54.800 Well, in a phrase, we reelected blackface twice. 0.99

01:48:57.980 uh that's why that's why we're in such a state here but uh i do want to wrap it up in the next

01:49:03.020 10 minutes but let's talk about you know solutions for because that's a question that people always

01:49:07.920 talk about hey you know is there a political solution what can i do and i just want to tell

01:49:13.060 a quick story uh based on your community that was built around uh your podcast diagonal on

01:49:19.640 uh which is just a that's what it is diagonal on is a community around your podcast uh we don't

01:49:26.140 actually worship goat figurines okay and i do want to it's an audience of people you know what

01:49:32.600 i mean yeah yeah but uh they invited me someone from your community invited me to like a christmas

01:49:38.260 dinner last year around this time and this was when this was when if you were unvaccinated it

01:49:43.500 was like not a fun time to be uh especially in ontario but uh yeah it was a potluck it was an

01:49:50.300 amazing time it was an amazing time and along with that people were making connections when it comes

01:49:54.900 to you know some people had connections with different farms and different like sources for

01:49:58.780 for local foods and things like this so i think that you know well to answer my own question

01:50:04.980 you have really presented some things to canadians that has been a solution which is

01:50:09.860 find your friends you kind of started this trend about a year and a half ago which was encouraging

01:50:14.780 canadians who are feeling isolated and who are feeling alone to find your friends find people

01:50:19.600 who are like-minded and start to build a not a community and as in just that buzzword people

01:50:24.940 like to use but an actual real community with uh members of the public public connecting with one

01:50:31.060 another who are like-minded um so i i guess i kind of answered the question of you know what can we

01:50:38.080 do you you know moving moving forward but um i guess to put another spin on it people are like

01:50:45.900 oh what are we going to do what are we going to do like well we have to vote for pp we have to do

01:50:49.240 something over the past two years uh who's actually fought for me and actually changed policy

01:50:54.380 for me here wasn't the wasn't the mp wasn't a conservative mp it was a truck driver it was

01:51:00.960 actually blue-collar workers who did something to uh to change the legislation in this country

01:51:06.740 so i guess like you know when it comes to canadians feeling kind of overwhelmed and not

01:51:12.860 knowing what to do next we're like how are we going to stop this uh what is it bill 21 when

01:51:17.180 it comes to the the gun grab and things like that have you thought much about uh how canadians can

01:51:23.240 be effective um moving forward well yeah you answered your own question uh it's um it's just

01:51:34.160 something you had to learn i had to learn i guess over time but you know that you gotta you gotta

01:51:38.640 go inward not outward everybody wants to change uh you know what other people are doing in this

01:51:43.520 You can't. It's not how it works.

01:51:46.420 Like I just said, the politicians and the leadership choices, if you want to call them that, are a reflection of our collective apathy.

01:51:55.320 So the problem is us, and we have to start thinking differently and start to bring back these values and things that matter to us and living in a way that is true to that.

01:52:11.280 It's not enough to say, you can say all kinds of things you want on the Internet all day,

01:52:14.420 but then if you just go right back to living the same way and consuming all the same garbage 0.99

01:52:18.240 and being just a slave, a slob, nothing's going to change. 0.98

01:52:23.980 And that's what a lot of people were depressed and isolated and cut off 0.78

01:52:28.460 in these curated, managed digital worlds.

01:52:33.320 And we had that first kind of get-together in Saskatchewan,

01:52:37.120 and there was 40, 50 people there that came from all over the country

01:52:39.700 that didn't know each other previously and they had a great time and everybody was so happy and

01:52:43.740 it was it was just a you could you could feel it that this was like something had happened here

01:52:48.880 like ottawa on a much smaller scale but you remember what it was like all these people were

01:52:52.300 like they just felt better that to be amongst um you know other peers their their tribe their

01:52:58.060 their community like everyone deserves to have that everyone deserves to feel like they belong

01:53:01.420 somewhere and that they're accepted somewhere and i don't it doesn't matter who you are there's a

01:53:05.780 community for i mean there's there's furries for god's sakes you know there's people that dress up

01:53:09.760 whatever whatever you know what i mean but uh there's people that you know think and feel about

01:53:15.980 things a certain way like we do and and why are we doing it no one's gonna hold your hand and do

01:53:21.680 it for you so i'm like we'll go find them they're around uh there's you know 10 20 000 people

01:53:26.460 listening to this or whatever there's probably some in your town i get letters and you know

01:53:29.780 stuff from all over the country um doesn't matter where you're at there's somebody is within driving

01:53:35.360 distance or even just you can just talk and know that they're nearby and uh do things together go

01:53:40.780 and get a coffee go go do something uh get rid of this or at least start subtracting digital hours

01:53:47.120 from your life and start replacing it with real life you know human interaction um because that's

01:53:51.780 healthy and that's normal this living through this which is controlled by billionaires trying

01:53:56.220 to make you insane and steal all your money that's not normal that's uh gross and we need we need less

01:54:01.440 of that and i think um healing collectively uh as a as a as a people as a society to reconnect

01:54:09.200 with each other start living in more positive and healthy ways will start will have a permeating

01:54:14.100 effect that will you know kind of go outward and then when you have a bunch of people that are

01:54:17.580 thinking a little more clearly and and have each other's backs and have you know higher standards

01:54:22.580 and higher values for how things want to happen as these you know groups kind of get bigger and

01:54:27.000 more cohesive and uh you know working together they're gonna they're gonna want people to

01:54:32.580 represent them in that way they're not gonna they're not gonna be satisfied with just you

01:54:36.440 know some crackerjack guy shows up out of a box i'm the new i was just parachuted in from god

01:54:42.180 knows where i'm your new representative for this like who are you you know leader of the watch like

01:54:47.840 get get get out of here um so i think people have been demoralized too much they've been they've

01:54:52.700 been beaten down and demoralized and made to feel like they're this big and that they don't matter

01:54:55.740 and that their impact and they're you're just here to consume things and shut up and go away

01:54:59.500 that's wrong that's very wrong and it's very incorrect and when you can if you can rebuild

01:55:04.120 people and build them from the from the ground up and and make them make them proud of themselves

01:55:08.200 again make them be you know uh i'm not i'm not a piece of garbage i i matter i exist and my life is

01:55:14.000 is not meaningless and i i do deserve to have my issues uh you know represented fairly and people

01:55:20.440 to represent me these kinds of things and not be this browbeaten you know you know scared little

01:55:25.660 dog that's afraid to get off the couch and just hides in the house all day so you know we'll start

01:55:30.860 working this is going to take 100 years to fix you know maybe but it's you know how do you move

01:55:36.560 a mountain one one rock at a time or something right so um that's that's what i think is the

01:55:41.660 the primary thing we should be doing is is working on ourselves and fixing it and you know go out

01:55:45.980 and and have communities like that because the state's not going to help you uh the these people

01:55:50.760 are not here to be your friend and not so if you're going into the future alone it's going

01:55:53.940 to be cold and dark and you're probably not going to do well um so there's a lot of us clearly as

01:55:59.380 ottawa demonstrated there's millions and millions of people that have a lot of concerns and um about

01:56:04.240 the future and so on so hey if if the if the the institutions and mechanisms and infrastructure we

01:56:10.440 have now isn't isn't going to be there for you then you need to figure that out so you need to

01:56:15.520 you know find some friends and uh you know try and try and make yourself as insulated from uh from

01:56:23.000 these from these these factors as possible well put well put we got a super chat from mitch murphy

01:56:29.300 shout out to mitch murphy red pill rapper he says in all caps did you meet any actual racists in jail

01:56:35.700 jeremy oh yeah oh yeah i did there was a few yeah it was a couple um okay so i uh you know i i just

01:56:48.360 want to say before we go you are such an inspiration to me jeremy you know you're a

01:56:53.680 canadian veteran and then not only that you you came home from from afghanistan and you got you

01:56:59.240 became a really good broadcaster you're a hilarious entertaining guy and then on top of that you know

01:57:05.320 you're being persecuted by the state apparatus and you're even getting better at you know

01:57:10.720 off air you're kind of getting into the whole here's the evidence like that's liable that's

01:57:16.320 this you know i need to figure i learn fast yeah yeah but you know you're stacking up all these

01:57:20.940 skills and and you're taking it with with so much grace and pizzazz and it's super inspiring but

01:57:27.420 you know what what's coming next or and in another way is there anything you've learned from this last

01:57:33.280 chapter of uh being thrown in jail uh for having a popular podcast as it were um you know what what

01:57:41.960 have you any lessons to take away from this and and kind of like how's your mindset changed moving

01:57:48.100 forward i mean you're wearing a suit on stream that's that's kind of is that not well i was i

01:57:53.160 was at the bank earlier but yeah you know hey you know if i don't know um i mean they're clearly

01:58:02.180 taking this pretty seriously you know um i i had um and not that that's going to change too much

01:58:08.820 Not a nonchalant attitude about it, but kind of a laissez-faire, you know, just kind of having fun.

01:58:14.460 And it was more of a hobby, I guess, and kind of just something I was doing.

01:58:18.460 I never really sat in it as like, this is what I'm doing now.

01:58:23.500 This is who I am, and this is how it's going to be.

01:58:25.960 And I don't like that a lot of other people have gone to great lengths to frame me as a certain thing, as a villain, as whatever.

01:58:36.640 like you're the and uh i just kind of man i just kind of did did this you know i i'm just kind of

01:58:41.900 doing my thing and kind of ignoring that but uh you know if they if they want to uh they want to

01:58:46.720 take this to the next level then i'm i'm happy to do that you know i'll uh i'll get serious too

01:58:51.700 you know um but yeah i'm going to continue doing uh doing what i do going forward and

01:58:56.140 probably put some more hours in than usual and because you know i i enjoy it i i like doing it

01:59:04.900 But more importantly, I like seeing – to see how much it meant to so many people, it would be a crime to stop.

01:59:12.360 It would be – if anybody gets anything positive out of it, it gets them through the week.

01:59:17.700 It does anything for them at all, that I can do that.

01:59:20.840 I can provide something for someone that makes their life a little bit easier, a little bit better.

01:59:24.620 I mean I have to. 1.00

01:59:26.580 I would feel like an asshole. 0.99

01:59:27.660 What else am I doing? 1.00

01:59:28.900 What else am I going to do?

01:59:30.200 I can only stack this wood so many times, Greg.

01:59:32.680 I got nothing else to do.

01:59:33.800 So, you know, it's an honor and a privilege to be able to, I guess this is what I'm doing,

01:59:43.920 is just speak for some people that, you know, can't for numerous reasons because of their

01:59:48.580 employment or their situation, whatever, or they just can't find the words or they're

01:59:51.980 just not good at it.

01:59:53.520 They don't, I can't do a lot of things very well.

01:59:55.540 I even, the wood is not, I'm waiting for people to criticize that.

01:59:58.300 It's not stacked right.

01:59:59.460 You know, I know I'm terrible at a lot of things, but I'm pretty good at this.

02:00:03.420 i'm pretty good at shooting my mouth off so um if that's that's what i've discovered i can do for

02:00:08.340 people and help them with that then then of course i'm going to continue to do it you certainly have

02:00:12.780 the gift of gab uh i can't speak for everyone but i'm super excited to see where you go from here

02:00:18.040 and i'm i'm excited to tune into the the rage cast uh sometime soon hopefully uh we do have

02:00:24.400 one last super chat here mario russo says just a hello from brazil uh i a brazilian canadian was

02:00:31.120 there during the convoy came here because didn't want to deal with the with the covid bs from jt

02:00:36.040 this winter absolutely brother um all right so before we go just one last reminder uh jeremy has

02:00:43.380 spent so much money already fighting this legal battle and it's going to be ongoing so if you

02:00:48.240 would please uh check out his legal defense fund i believe there's a couple links going out going

02:00:53.460 around there's this one there's also the ungovernable a link which is essentially going

02:00:58.840 to be a stream coming up later this month uh i guess 10 days from now december 17th it's going

02:01:04.360 to be a 12-hour stream fundraiser for jeremy mckenzie and also celebrating the diagonal

02:01:10.120 community all the all the friends we've made along the way um yeah and of course go to the

02:01:17.640 website raging dissident.com to find all of his links anything else you want to say before we get

02:01:23.380 going here uh just thanks to you yourself um and everybody else there's a bunch of them in the

02:01:28.600 chat i glanced over a couple times and for for setting that up for everything you guys have done

02:01:32.240 it's it's uh you know you guys are uh rock stars to me it's the amount of support and and uh you

02:01:38.420 know love and encouragement i've gotten from you guys has just been you know i i have uh i owe you

02:01:43.180 a lot i got a lot of a lot of work to do to make to to live up to the the high um the high bar uh

02:01:50.940 that i've that i've set for myself because i think you guys are all uh amazing uh some of the best

02:01:56.240 people i've ever met and this is uh as crazy as the last couple years has been it's brought me a

02:01:59.820 lot of really really great good uh people and um you know it's an honor and a privilege like i said

02:02:05.220 to to you know entertain you guys and and and do anything for you so i owe it to you to to you know

02:02:12.340 be as good as i can and do as good of a job as i can to to make up for everything you guys have

02:02:17.140 done for me so thank you so much i appreciate it from the bottom of my heart thank you jeremy

02:02:21.680 mckenzie canadian legend and future king canada thanks thanks for uh empire it's an evil empire 0.86

02:02:30.960 i'll kill everybody

02:02:32.080 thanks for coming on man and thanks for watching everybody like share and subscribe

02:02:39.600 all that fun stuff thanks for me really send it to jeremy he's fighting the beast

02:02:46.340 uh yeah we will talk to you soon later

Greg Wycliffe - December 07, 2022

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