00:02:47.080and i mean your perspective is very much that right you've kind of embraced this weird clown
00:02:52.880world we're living in because by all accounts you know all you're doing is is just kind of
00:02:58.920you're an individual who's sharing your opinion but you are so kind of privy to the state of the
00:03:03.740world that you're like yeah they might throw me in jail because i'm i'm a popular dissident
00:03:07.200who's uh making a lot of noise and that's just what happens these democracy yeah and it's yeah
00:03:15.500Yeah, it's not like – it depends on who you are, you know, and I'm sure that – I've got to be careful what I say too, obviously, but there is a lot of – I'll say this.
00:03:26.600If I had $1,000 for every time over the past couple of months with this whole process, every person I talk to, you know, cops, people at the jail, lawyers, all these different –
00:03:35.400if every time someone gave me $1,000 when they said, I've never seen anything like this before in my life, I could pay my legal bills entirely.
00:03:44.440so it's a lot of um you know this is unusual a lot of unusual things but i mean you know i'm aware
00:03:54.160there's a target on me and there's uh there's people that don't like me and and so on so i you
00:03:58.480know you get a little extra attention for that kind of thing so versus uh you know i i'm i don't
00:04:03.560want to sneeze in a library i think i'd be charged with uh you know bioterrorism or something at that
00:04:08.200point yeah yeah it's amazing how the rules um well they don't apply to you and i've always
00:04:16.000explained your situation to people and they're like well they can't do that and it's like well
00:04:19.960they did well they did yeah exactly the rules don't apply i've never seen this before in my
00:04:26.520life i've never seen anything like this before and of course there's uh your partner who also
00:04:32.220got thrown in jail for for phantom gas theft as well yeah it's a new yes she did four day well
00:04:39.200an unendorsed warrant so she was picked up for and arrested and put in jail for four days
00:04:43.360allegedly for not paying 68 dollars in gas or something and she was in for four days uh for
00:04:50.700that and you know she's fighting that and we're all fighting i mean obviously this should go
00:04:54.720without saying we're all she myself i don't know we all there's only two of us um you know we're
00:05:00.200pleading not guilty to everything we're fighting everything because it's all nonsense it's um you
00:05:04.120know we're maintaining that you know throughout it's that's something you discover throughout
00:05:08.500this whole process the way canada works is that um you know it's not innocent until proven guilty
00:05:12.660here it's uh you're guilty until proven innocent and that's only if you can afford to um it's a
00:05:18.960really insane system that you can be i mean i'm sitting next to guys that are like have done you
00:05:24.920know 10 15 years in the penitentiary guys have done you know some pretty violent crazy stuff
00:05:30.900they're sitting right across from me you know we're eating dinner together and i've never had
00:05:35.120a day in court i haven't been convicted of anything i have no criminal record i'm sitting
00:05:37.720in here right next to this guy sleeping next to this guy um you know with people that have done
00:05:42.020some some pretty wild stuff and uh i don't think people i you know didn't really know how it works
00:05:48.320most people don't because until it happens to you why would you you know no it's not really that
00:05:51.480interesting but yeah like someone can just simply point the finger and say that guy uh this person
00:05:55.720did this go get him and then they they throw you in there and they can throw you right in jail and
00:05:59.460right and right with uh just like uh as if you had been convicted and then it's on you to uh dig
00:06:05.680yourself out of that and it can be very expensive and you know luckily i um did get connected with
00:06:10.340some with a pretty good legal team that uh he he had his he had a good good little teaser there at
00:06:16.240the at the emergency inquiry that was fun that was a whole other thing we can get into if you want
00:06:20.340But, um, yeah, it's, it's, it's crazy and it's, it's, you have to, uh, and it's hard to do. It's hard to dig yourself out from when you're, um, in jail. And, um, the other thing too, is that I was incredibly, incredibly fortunate and blessed to have so many people supporting me and the amount of, um, just the mail and the, like the, it was incredible. And, uh, I, you know, with all of that, I mean, you feel like you can do anything.
00:06:46.500It's really, you know, you can beat anything when you have this many people trying to help you.
00:06:51.200But, you know, my heart goes out to people that aren't in that kind of situation that don't.
00:06:58.080I mean, I happened to I was smart with my money.
00:07:00.240I'd saved. I had savings. I had things taken care of.
00:07:02.660I have, you know, my pension and stuff.
00:07:04.400My bills are paid. You know, they pay that pays for my house, you know, my kids and all that stuff.
00:07:08.920So but if I was, you know, if I had a job, a day job or something where like I had employers, that's gone.
00:07:15.560You know, you can't just say, I've got to go to jail for an indefinite period of time.
00:07:35.580You're taken out of your life and everything goes on without you, including your mortgage payments, your bill payments, and all that kind of stuff.
00:07:40.120So I was just fortunate to be, I positioned myself in a way that it wasn't too detrimental, I suppose, but it could be ruinous, and it is to a lot of other people.
00:07:55.680I mean, if you're just some guy and, you know, I don't know, whatever could happen to people, you know, you get a DUI or something, you get thrown in jail for a couple of months, you lose your job at the bank and your house and your wife and kids are gone and your life is destroyed.
00:08:06.960And then you might have $100,000, $200,000 in legal fees or something on top of it.
00:08:10.980So it's lawfare, as they say, as they call it.
00:08:15.380Yeah, and it's very scary to think that you are somebody who had a platform, who has a community around him, who can support you throughout this legal battle.
00:08:25.000And that is not the case for everyone.
00:08:27.580yeah and uh if you kind of look at the larger picture of this like you know fifth generational
00:08:32.720warfare it's almost i wonder if your scenario your situation has has it all happened and any
00:08:38.960other western country recently and and that is somebody you know being thrown in jail um you know
00:08:45.160with very little like you know because he is a popular dissident like most of the time in other
00:08:51.000countries maybe there's some other reason why they try to throw them in jail but it's it's almost
00:08:55.400like you're an example of what they want which is any dissident we can just throw in jail for
00:09:01.600any arbitrary reason and i would even argue that the situation with um with morgan and the gas
00:09:07.560theft is like imagine that just kind of happened to all freedom fighters all of a sudden it's like
00:09:11.800no you stole gas and you're going to jail now and like unless you have even like a popular twitter
00:09:16.460account where you can like tweet out to your followers you're effed you don't have any means
00:09:20.620to you know to get support or for even the rest of the canadian public to hear about it because
00:09:24.900let's face it our news media institute sucks yeah well i you know like in her case right like
00:09:31.740anyone else it would have just been called you know the hey i think you forgot to pay gas oh my
00:09:38.020bad here's you know 60 or whatever you know whatever it is but because it's her you know
00:09:42.940because we are we are that's not how it goes it's like technically they can do that and that's just
00:09:47.400how it that seems to be the attitude that's applied across the board it's like normally this
00:09:51.580is how things are done but because it's you technically uh this is these are all the weapons
00:09:56.020we can deploy against you and do you and that seems to be um more often than not that you know
00:10:00.840there's not a lot of leniency or understanding or anything like that it's just uh whatever they can
00:10:05.880do and get away what they do and again it's you know i've never seen this before am i a lot yeah
00:10:10.940i know i keep hearing that and uh that was the situation with her as well she got four days in
00:10:15.900jail for for uh you know and we'll see how that goes there's a lot of these um but yeah i i wouldn't
00:10:22.720want to be i wouldn't want to be in a position where you don't have that kind of support and
00:10:25.740you don't have that kind of you know reach to have people looking out for you and otherwise
00:10:29.000i mean my god yeah it's it's it's ruinous and that's why they that's why they do it and of
00:10:33.940course um you know yeah fifth generation warfare it's an information war that we're in now it's
00:10:38.940and the battle is over uh people's mindsets and um you know the hearts and minds we call it that's
00:10:44.380we did in Afghanistan, and now the whole thing is being applied on a global scale all over the
00:10:51.020Western world. And if you're, you know, a target of that, if you're a problem or if you're someone
00:10:56.800that's been, you know, if you want to use the word dissonant or so on, there's things that can
00:11:02.880be done to you. You can get extra attention. Maybe you get audited a little extra. You know,
00:11:08.160there's all kinds of little pressure points and things they can do to just make your life more
00:11:12.360difficult and um and they will um obviously yeah yeah so um you know you are a you're a you're a
00:11:24.840canadian veteran and i i've interacted with a number of you guys now and you are very humble
00:11:29.800you guys are very very humble and it's very very gracious and you know i i would never i know that
00:11:35.300you guys don't want to be uh seen as a victim or anything like that and on the contrary you know
00:11:40.060you seem to be people you people you canadian veterans uh you don't want to make a fuss you
00:11:45.860know on the contrary you want you by definition kind of want to endure hardships in order for
00:11:50.540others to have an easier life right that's that's kind of beat into the ethos and the and the color
00:11:57.860it used to be the culture i don't want to comment on what it is now the military is anyway it's a
00:12:03.620whole other conversation uh it's it's fallen away from what it used to be if you had talked to
00:12:08.600anyone but um that's that's part of the ethos in the culture is that you just kind of suffer in
00:12:12.560silence and you know the quiet professionalism like you're not you're not shouldn't be doing
00:12:15.320things for attention or doing it because you want parades or medals you just do it because it needs
00:12:18.760to be done you do things because they they should be done or that's your job and you know you're
00:12:23.080that's just how it is you know that's just the attitude that that we tried to carry and and you
00:12:27.980know beat into people you know through the training and experience and and that and so on so
00:12:32.900So I think that that gets adopted by a lot of the guys and to you, your formative years, really.
00:12:39.220I mean, I joined the military when I was 16, 17 years old.
00:12:42.020So you don't really that that's the environment I was in when you learn how to be a man and how to conduct yourself and, you know, how to act and how not to act and that kind of thing.
00:12:49.720I mean, there's you could grow up playing hockey and you're on hockey teams or you're in college or whatever, whatever someone's background is.
00:12:55.140that was mine and that's how you know we we tried we had certain certain ways of doing things and
00:13:01.600certain ideals and and uh you know uh principles that that we'd try to you know not only uh not
00:13:09.580only maintain and give to the new guys but but you know uphold that are you know passed down from
00:13:13.980you passed down to you from the guys that came before from the previous generations from the
00:13:17.340older ncos that's that's that's the gig you're always supposed to train the guy below you to do
00:13:21.340your job in the event you're killed inevitably or or whatever sometime someday somebody's going
00:13:27.460to have to fill that that uniform that you're wearing because you're not going to be there
00:13:30.020forever you're going to retire you're going to get killed something's going to happen
00:13:32.200so you're training him and you're learning from the guy above you so there's always this
00:13:35.800um you know lateral movement kind of thing it's just a it's a cycle you know you're here today
00:13:39.860gone tomorrow and um that's uh that's just you know what we try to do is perpetuate those those
00:13:45.040ideals and those uh those principles i guess and it is it is pretty common with a lot of the guys
00:13:52.640and i think too because that's just what works um it's not something you get humbled in that job
00:13:58.400in that i don't even call it a job in that lifestyle that career that that that environment
00:14:02.400you can't uh you can't go in there acting like uh you know some hot shit hockey player you know
00:14:06.320we've had a few of those you know but um 100 pounds on your back 100 pounds on your back
00:14:10.020you know and there's no no way around that and that hill is as high as it's going to be and
00:14:14.020the roads as long as it is, and incoming enemy fire is as indiscriminate and mean as it's always
00:14:18.380ever going to be. That was the one thing I really loved about the Army, is that you can't fake
00:14:24.820very much. You can't pretend to be anything. There's a lot of truth in it. You can't pretend
00:14:30.200to be brave. You can't pretend to have courage. You can't pretend to have integrity. I mean,
00:14:35.060you can, but it won't last very long. It will be exposed just to the nature of the job. There's
00:14:39.180just too much uh hard-hitting you know on the ground reality that is inescapable it's just uh
00:14:44.940you know and everybody's there to see it you know you have some guys from previous generations would
00:14:49.820uh you know and in peacetime and this is why the u.s military is you know despite its
00:14:55.420imperialistic nature has is an excellent uh the excellent you know fighting force because they're
00:15:01.520they're sharpening their swords all the time so to speak so they you know being exposed and doing
00:15:07.080it you can't fake it you can't play make-believe but you know and sometimes you'll get exposed
00:15:10.920sooner or later you'll have uh ncos that act like big big shots and then when the bullets start
00:15:15.100flying they run away or they hide or something and then you have some 22 year old private that
00:15:18.380takes over because that's just the man on the ground at the time that knew what to do and get
00:15:22.080it done and um that's that's the world that a lot of these guys come from and and uh so it's not
00:15:28.380surprising that you would notice because there's a humility that comes with that too and you can
00:15:32.000be here one minute and then you're dust so what happens to the uh you know the canadian hockey
00:15:38.120bro who comes into the canadian armed forces with a big ego what happens to him on the first
00:15:42.340first week it depends if he's really good at playing hockey they'll pick him up for the
00:15:46.160regimental team and then he'll be really well looked after and taken care of they're all still
00:15:50.960pretty big with the hockey uh in there but yeah it's you know it's expected if you're going to
00:15:57.040talk like that and act like that then you're gonna there's gonna be extra attention paid to
00:16:00.000you to see how see what you can do and if you don't measure if it's not gonna be good i did
00:16:03.820the opposite i just tried to i just tried to lay low and be the great man i was a tiny little guy
00:16:09.400when i joined the army so i was just happy to survive every day so i i'm noticing you know
00:16:15.540you're you're very composed and you're and you're very calm cool collected you're like this is fifth
00:16:20.640generational warfare and and part of me is very inspired by that and very like you know i appreciate
00:16:26.560i appreciate the grace that you have but another part of me is you know where's the old rage who's
00:16:32.240like this is this is crap this is i was in there for 60 can you believe that no where where's where's
00:16:38.400that energy gone uh that's around don't worry that'll be back um that there's a time and a
00:16:43.840place for it i guess this is my i'm still shaking dust and the rust off here i'm surprised all this
00:16:47.800worked i just plugged it all in and seems to be working just fine it's surprising like riding a
00:16:52.480bike like yeah yeah but you know it's it's um yeah a lot of people ask me or said too you must
00:16:58.580be so happy to be out now oh that's great are you so happy congratulations that kind of thing i said
00:17:03.080no i'm not happy why would i be happy i'm not happy that i'm out i'm angry that i was ever in
00:17:07.300there in the first place you know what i mean it's uh it's like uh david knight said this about when
00:17:13.060they they lifted the restrictions in texas in 2020 or 2021 i can't remember everyone was all
00:17:17.660Well, finally, we've gotten rid of the – thank you, Governor Abbott, whoever the guy's name was, for freeing us of these ridiculous lockdowns and restrictions and so on.
00:17:26.720He said, you don't say thank you to a tyrant or a bully for taking his boot off your neck.
00:17:31.740You don't say thank you to a bully when he stops beating you.
00:17:34.520You know, that's not how – so that's – already, that's the wrong mindset.
00:17:38.260You're like, oh, thank goodness it's not – well, it's not over.
00:17:41.920This is going to be years I'm going to be dealing with this stuff.
00:17:44.640but uh yeah you don't want to burn yourself out being too angry about it at once or anything but
00:17:49.280um yeah it's it's and and i i'm really handcuffed about what i can uh things i can say about it and
00:17:55.900things i can't so it's yeah it's it's a pretty it's a pretty fucked up situation um but uh you
00:18:04.420know we're dealing with it and uh it's again i've been in worse places you know everybody was
00:18:09.420writing me all kinds of letters and calling i hope you're i've been in i've been in much worse
00:18:13.320much worse places it wasn't it was it was pretty pretty gay pretty dumb
00:18:17.360you know what i mean it was a pretty it was a pretty stupid situation it sucked but uh you
00:18:23.860know i've had worse it's not anything that's the worst part about that is is not knowing uh you
00:18:29.320know what they call it when you're doing dead time where you're not it would be it would be
00:18:33.200easier for somebody to tell you you're doing six months or you're doing a year and you're this is
00:18:36.920the day you're done in my situation it was like maybe be out on tuesday maybe it's two weeks maybe
00:18:41.600is two years we don't know it's just we don't know we'll just we'll let you know and weeks go
00:18:46.740by like yeah we don't know we don't know what's going on that's that's uh that's hard on the head
00:18:51.420but um you know and the other guy's like that sucks you know and you're on tv all the time you
00:18:56.220know the other guys in the jail are like okay you're on the i'm like oh great i'm being slandered
00:19:02.000some more um yeah it was it was fun so you said you've been treated worse before i want to play
00:19:09.640this clip i sent it to your telegram i don't know if you can can you watch it on your end there
00:19:13.700which one uh it's it's the actual video that i sent you where we at uh on on telegram i'm fine
00:19:23.480i'm gonna find you here we go you see it there we are gotcha which one the top one uh the top one
00:19:28.940okay so i'm just gonna play it here yeah okay jeremy so jeremy um mckenzie who's in the
00:19:36.340Saskatchewan prison. Is he a victim of actual torture under Canadian law? Absolutely. If he
00:19:43.100is being treated the way that Morgan, his girlfriend or his wife is saying he's being
00:19:46.960treated, which is two 15 minute intervals out of the cell, that's torture. That's the definition
00:19:51.940of torture under Canadian law. So apparently she said that he is supposed to, the law dictates
00:19:58.260in prisons that there must be two hours of human contact and there must be four hours outside the
00:20:04.100and like by far that's not what he's getting if that's what is happening to him so um i
00:20:11.080so uh is that is that all true you're being tortured in the saskatchewan spa day spa yeah
00:20:22.060the saskatchewan what is it called the saskatchewan correctional center resort and spa
00:20:25.980is the official name they dropped the last part because it doesn't really quite live up to its
00:20:30.500reputation how many how many stars would you give it in a review i gave it two out of five i gave it
00:20:35.060a little review i mean i thought there was going to be there was no barking dogs there was no ice
00:20:39.660hosing down of people there wasn't any like just you know mindless beatings um disappointment they
00:20:47.260left the heat on at night you know stuff like that you know i just expected it to be i mean they did
00:20:51.800feed us something i think it was mostly chopped up chinese political prisoners but um still i mean
00:20:58.340What happened to the good old days when you'd have to chase rats around and, you know, the strongest men would get to eat the most rats, and that's how you survive jail?
00:21:12.740I think the – federally, in the penitentiary and stuff like that, I think that is the law, but provincially, maybe not or evidently not, and that's what they were doing.
00:22:02.200So was there bathroom breaks out of the 30 minutes?
00:22:06.860Well, I used them to make phone calls because I was trying to get, you know, organized lawyers and stuff like that.
00:22:11.700But otherwise, you just, you know, press the button and buzz them and hopefully they'll – they're also following a lot of this COVID protocol stuff.
00:22:18.160I mean they taped up the goddamn weights outside, you know, we were using.
00:22:22.160So you go to yard time, you want to use the yard, you want to use the – they're outside.
00:22:26.260in the snow you know which was kind of cool you know we're you know doing uh doing our weight sets
00:22:30.580and stuff in the in blizzards and you know that was until you know the covid protocol stuff came
00:22:34.660back and then they taped them up because that's how you get covid by lifting weights outside in
00:22:37.860the fresh air um so there was a lot of weirdness you know the masks are on they're off and that
00:22:41.780they would only let one guy out of the cell at a time so if there's three other guys waiting to go
00:22:44.920to the bathroom and you're you know you could be waiting an hour or two sometimes so yeah it was
00:22:50.920yeah half hour a day and that's if they you know and it wasn't even a schedule sometimes they would
00:22:55.660just buzz you and be like you got 15 minutes starting out a couple times i'd be asleep i would
00:22:59.660just like try to run down get a phone and you got to dial all this crap and there's these passwords
00:23:04.860and it doesn't work and they're screaming at you to get back in your get back in your box you know
00:23:09.120it uh wasn't you know it was interesting so this is what i meant about canadian veterans being
00:23:16.800humble man i'm like hey so you were tortured you were tortured what was that like and you're like
00:23:21.120cracking jokes well they didn't cut my fingernails off or my eyelids or anything
00:23:27.140so i guess it could have been you know i was expecting worse um but that clip that i showed
00:23:32.900was from um her name is susan have you ever connected with this woman but she's been posting
00:23:38.940a little bit about it saying that uh someone needs to start preparing a class action mass
00:23:44.600torture federal court lawsuit and high-profile international media campaign to expose which
00:23:49.600canadian government employees are instructing prison staff to violate our federal laws as well
00:23:53.320as u.n treaty so this is regardless of what saskatchewan might say apparently this is against
00:23:57.860like a u.n treaty every political prisoner could join the class action against ottawa uh like is
00:24:05.000there anything happening on that front um on your end or like hey i was tortured uh hi hey uh i'm
00:24:14.040not sure i was tortured for making a popular podcast yeah oh a lot of uh a lot of a lot of
00:24:21.620problem is that people just don't complain they don't try to they don't uh they just accept it
00:24:27.420right and that's what i was uh kind of surprised at how a lot of the guys in there would just
00:24:32.640accept a lot of it a lot of the behavior a lot of it was um just you know normal to them because
00:24:38.540they're in and out of there all the time most of the guys in there are in there all the time you
00:24:41.680know they just go in there for vacation kind of you know and uh they're just like yeah that's how
00:24:45.940it is and they're just it's alarming because that's you know conditioning right and and now
00:24:51.120you know you see that in in our society now with um all of the new over um just just the reach of
00:24:59.080the state and the media and so on what's become normalized now what was insane it's it is still
00:25:04.340insane and that's you know what i try to hang on to every day because if you start letting it be
00:25:08.800normal then you forget about it and then it's normal it's normal now to have uh you know the
00:25:14.560government decide they're going to maybe take your kids away because you don't you know you listen to
00:25:18.280the wrong things or what's going on in new zealand they're trying to grab some guy's kid because he
00:25:21.600doesn't want to uh doesn't want to uh you know the blood transfusion or something this kid needs
00:25:26.960and doesn't want to have you have a blood transfusion from people that have had the
00:25:31.040mrna injections and they're like no maybe we'll just take your kids maybe we'll just take them
00:25:34.480instead um it's crazy the gaslighting and the things the media have gotten away with saying
00:25:39.740and doing and you know the you've got the prime minister othering entire sections of the of the
00:25:43.360population millions of people should we tolerate them how what should we do with them you know
00:25:47.040you're being threatened oh there's going to be consequences some of them are saying this kind
00:25:50.100of stuff that was uh unthinkable to say that's career suicide 10 years ago now it's just now
00:25:56.580it's just oh they said another thing today so so you can get used to anything if it's brought in
00:26:02.780gradually enough if you just kind of slowly the frog in the boiling pot metaphor we've all talked
00:26:07.420about for years if you just do it slowly enough and gradually enough people will put up with
00:26:11.080absolutely anything i mean north korea exists you know it shouldn't but it does and that should
00:26:17.060scare everybody and the fact that not too many people uh seem to get too alarmed about it i saw
00:26:22.320a guy on facebook earlier the other day um because now there's the gun ban which again years and
00:26:27.900years have been saying this is what they're going to do they're going to say this they're going to
00:26:31.880say give us an inch and we're going to take the whole field and we're just going to that that'll
00:26:35.700never happen bro that because because this is so far bro and like that will never be the thing
00:26:41.240like because because i but no it is and and look how far it's coming and this guy was like oh well
00:26:46.840what are they going to do they're not going to come now he's resigned himself to well they're
00:26:50.620not going to come collect everyone's guns so what is there to worry about a couple of years ago there
00:26:54.380was the uproar like how can they ban these and how can they get away with this and now it's like well
00:26:58.100let them ban. They're not going to come get mine or anything. And I said, that exact attitude,
00:27:01.940the guy's profile picture was a couple of young kids, like babies, like one, two-year-olds.
00:27:05.780I assume they were his. And I was like, that kind of attitude is what's going to endanger those
00:27:09.000kids. Because in 20 years from now, all the rights and things that you used to have, that they're
00:27:13.200just being taken away, they're not going to have at all. They're not even going to have any memories
00:27:15.720of existing. Because you felt like you're doing the whatabouts and the, oh, well, you know, it's
00:27:21.100okay because I'm just going to compromise in my head so that I don't have to do anything.
00:27:25.940and I don't have to I don't people don't like to feel upset and alarmed and concerned and feel
00:27:30.600like there's a problem because then they have to do something about the problem if they have to do
00:27:34.320something about the problem then that's stressful and they don't want to do that they want to watch
00:27:37.880football and eat cheese and sleep all day so something awful can happen and they'll they'll
00:27:44.180just you know computing will will come out well here's why you don't have to do anything here's
00:27:48.620why it's okay and it doesn't help that you've got these media personalities up there telling them
00:27:52.380exactly what they want them to think and feel all the time just just take the drugs be numb don't
00:27:57.100feel anything everything's fine everything's under control just go back to sleep all the time so it's
00:28:01.860a constant struggle and that's that's the fifth generation warfare that we're under and it's not
00:28:05.280it's not even countries anymore you've got this uh elite you know billionaire super tech billionaire
00:28:11.000class of people that is just gobbling up the gobbling up the whole uh the whole world they're
00:28:15.580buying up all the farms and all the property and all the resources and in you know um and they've
00:28:20.780got the these media clowns run cover for them and telling everybody how great it all is it's like
00:28:26.140this isn't good for us it's good great for them uh you've convinced these people who are now your
00:28:31.080victims to enjoy their own uh enjoy their own exploitation it's uh so you don't need to fight
00:28:37.160in that in that environment you know old third fourth generation warfare is like you know like
00:28:41.720world war ii large-scale combined arms kind of uh kind of thing this is a new you know we can we can
00:28:48.560conquer you and control you without ever having uh fire a gun yeah and that's way that that's a
00:28:55.900way you know more solid victory because if those people if you use force to conquer somebody they're
00:29:00.640going to resist you even if they lose there's going to be an element of them that are always
00:29:04.380going to be you know i look at look at the uh the ira in ireland you know what the british uh you
00:29:09.360know tried to do there and that was like you know it's still going on right there's still bad blood
00:29:13.320there um but if you can convince them to to believe that this is what they want to do or
00:29:18.640scare them into it uh then you're they're yours forever at that point or you know convince them
00:29:23.860to tear down their own statues for example why not convince them to hate themselves but yeah i think
00:29:30.000there's a lot to be said about that it is sad to see kind of the backsliding the compromise after
00:29:34.580compromise and i think you know what we saw during lockdowns was a good example of that
00:29:38.500It was like, oh, you know, oh, we have a little bit of freedom back.
00:40:27.040It's desensitized from the, again, if this was years ago,
00:40:29.640people would probably be a lot more upset about it,
00:40:31.320But the power that the TV has, and when I say TV, it's, you know, kind of in a monolithic sense of, yeah, it's, you know, I don't watch TV, but, you know, it's your phones and stuff, right?
00:40:43.360The mainline, you know, pipe-fed sludge that just gets pumped into your brain is able to make people do anything or not care about anything or care about certain things.
00:40:56.460And it's fascinating that the hypocrisy is so blatantly huge that they can ignore it and not notice.
00:41:06.740Like, for example, they can, you know, like the Ukraine situation, right?
00:41:10.900All of a sudden, everyone's real concerned about countries being invaded and people being killed and all of this.
00:42:08.120But the regular person just – I mean, you've got the flags everywhere.
00:42:13.900I was in the city the other day, and there was an ad on the back of this truck, and it was like a little girl in a swimming pool and cheddar.
00:42:19.480they i can't remember what it's for some charity or something but they had someone had painted the
00:42:23.840nails on the girl's hand you know blue and yellow yeah like it wasn't part of the ad someone just
00:42:29.020felt the need to go do that because ukraine you know and the big flag over the bridge forever
00:42:34.120it's like it's like war has never happened to these people ever in history and they never
00:42:38.500stop to think like why is this one so important why is this one worth we're gonna we're gonna
00:42:44.660just vomit the ukraine colors all over the city and we're gonna and just non-stop around the
00:42:51.620clock and you know that's not suspicious at all to anyone and there's there's literally wars
00:42:57.380happening any pick a day in human history somebody's killing somebody somewhere all over the
00:43:01.720world but that for this one uh we all have to be we all have to bankrupt ourselves spend billions
00:43:07.040of dollars uh empty the the war stock and munition stockpile of the canadian forces send all
00:43:11.920encourage our own guys go over there and die which they're doing some of them have been killed over
00:43:16.240there for what you know like why no one asks why anymore because we don't have journalists
00:43:23.200we don't have a free press we don't have that fifth column anymore to put the checks and balances in
00:43:29.160place for these people in power to say what the hell are you doing because without because again
00:43:35.520people are tough they'll just follow whatever the talking box head says so if that person decides
00:43:40.900they're going to start playing on a team that isn't
00:43:43.020team, you know, this is what's actually
00:43:44.740these are the facts, this is what's going on
00:44:06.520without telling them how to think about it
00:44:08.520I know it's a dangerous, radical new idea
00:44:10.540But I really believe in the idea that maybe if people just had access to the facts themselves, they could almost come up with their own consensus on what to do about it rather than have some kind of state-sponsored mouthpiece sit there and just spew this into their heads and then make them feel – not only just do that, but make them feel like they're bad people if they don't agree with it, like there's something wrong with them.
00:44:32.260it's all very abusive and and uh i saw you had that other thing queued up i don't i don't care
00:44:36.700about any of these journalists um but it's you know so narcissistic there's so much lack of
00:44:44.720empathy and understanding they're so like can't wrap their heads around why people would be angry
00:44:50.560at them why people are are sending you know whatever they're doing death threats and vile
00:44:55.680messages and you know this kind of thing but no at no time are they like why could this be
00:45:00.000you know um when you if you stop thinking about yourself for just a minute you know the answer
00:45:08.280is very obvious but when in a world again it's the age of narcissism everybody's you know
00:45:12.400selfies and me everything is about me and uh this is no different look at now what's happening to me
00:45:18.140look what's happening to me i'm going to use my position in the media this the sacred obligation
00:45:23.340i have to inform the public and tell them about what's happening and and so that so they can make
00:45:27.120informed decisions with uh you know with their lives what's going on with the economy what is
00:45:30.400going on with the war should i should i send my children should we not be involved should we pay
00:45:33.900these no no fuck all that did you hear what happened to me today like holy shit yeah holy
00:45:40.800shit and uh yeah it's just you know what do you do it's it's just a runaway you just got to wait
00:45:47.500for the the train's already going over the cliff you know i just try to just get out of the way
00:45:51.700you know and when the flames die down maybe we can go through the rubble and find some useful
00:45:55.840things to you know rebuild our lives with but it's complete it's just a runaway clown show at
00:46:01.480this point i don't know what to say about it yeah and in a way i think that the the news media that
00:46:06.940the the mainstream tv sludge as you put it i think it's kind of replaced religion because back in the
00:46:13.840day you would go to church you listen to the pastor they would tell you you know this is this
00:46:17.800is what you should think about morally this is right this is wrong two wrong stuff and they have
00:46:22.340these moral lessons and today it's like you turn on the tv if you don't support ukraine and have a
00:46:29.520yellow and blue flag yeah in your bio you're a bad person like this is the new like people actually
00:46:36.120get their morality from tv from the news right they do and they get it if it's not from there
00:46:40.920they get it from netflix they get it from their so that's something else i've i've you know amused
00:46:45.300on is that people live on they live digitally now we don't live in communities we don't have
00:46:50.500Like, so the church used to be where everyone went in a town.
00:46:54.060That's how you knew everyone, because you'd see them at church, you know, and you'd talk to them.
00:46:57.520And that's, you know, where this, you know, the town would, it's the beating heart of the town.
00:47:01.200Or there'd be the pub or there'd be the market, whatever.
00:47:03.460There's these little venues where, that's all gone.
00:47:07.460So your social cues and the way to pick up on how to act and, you know, what's good, what's bad, whatever, is all being curated and fed to you.
00:47:55.640The whole thing, you know, we're just products to these people now.
00:48:01.580It's just numbers to be managed, and that's what happens.
00:48:05.100You know, not even necessarily if it's Christian religion, but that aspect of spirituality or people having any kind of tie to that aspect of themselves where they think about things like this, about it's gone, you know, except for the ones that go and seek it out themselves and are trying to, you know, bring it back.
00:48:23.320But you're not going to get that from TV.
00:49:09.820So they're trying to get your eyeballs onto something 24-7.
00:49:12.260So you're never – if they had it their way, it would be like – you ever see that Wally movie where everybody is just fat, gross, and they're just – just these disgusting things floating in their chairs.
00:49:21.160And they're just going to screen like stapled to the front of them, and they're just – food is delivered.
00:49:25.040Like that's basically how ideally – because that's where you're going to get the most money.
00:49:29.920There's always – how do you get more money out of them?
00:49:32.460How do you get more money out of this?
01:00:02.720and control it. And if that can't, then it'll just
01:00:05.440destroy it. It'll just ruin your life and make you
01:00:07.460a pariah um so that's that's what i mean there's a million probably a million people posting the
01:00:11.700same things like that why aren't they attacking them because they're not carrie price that's why
01:00:15.280because he's going to have more of an effect and and why they again like no respect no okay well
01:00:20.660that's what he thinks that's what he's allowed to think he's allowed to say that no we're going to
01:00:24.720make him do an apology we're going to you know make a big spectacle out of it the team's going
01:00:28.900to and there is this the uh it's the it's the 30th anniversary of the the poly technique killings i
01:00:33.460think is that what's going on we're still politicizing people's deaths from three decades
01:00:37.600ago to this you know endless aim of eliminating the idea of a murder we're going to eliminate
01:00:44.400murder by banning all kinds of uh you know you know weapons everything it's it's not it doesn't
01:00:51.120make any difference it's never going to we also live next to the biggest weapons manufacturer on
01:00:55.000planet earth so i don't think that's going to have any uh there's not going to be any stopping the
01:01:00.160the flow of weapons north of the border by you know organized crime and so on who are going to
01:01:04.360make a killing now you know yeah it's just going to make it such much more of a lucrative business
01:01:09.700like when they decriminalized uh they didn't decriminal they legalized sorry uh you know
01:01:13.900marijuana and they you know they lost money yeah because people can just grow it themselves or
01:01:19.620they can just get it at the store when you do this it's just gonna the same people that want
01:01:23.500to get you know uh weapons to hurt people will still do it uh except now they're going to make
01:01:29.080even more money because it's harder to do uh you know there's there's less and there are people
01:01:33.100that feel like they want them they're not going to be hard to find you know it's not going to be
01:01:36.880it's not hard to find weapons if they don't you know um half the guys i was in just i was just
01:01:41.700in jail with they're all on in their own weapon multiple you know caught with guns a bunch of
01:01:45.460times you know they're in there six seven eight ten times were they legal they're just going to
01:01:49.520go right back out they're just going to do it again were they legal firearms here no no they
01:01:53.940they were no i thought there were no legal illegal firearms in canada i thought it was
01:01:58.920crazy crazy now i i think that uh this is very relevant to the conversation about uh fifth
01:02:07.460generation because in a way these you know social media posts by popular people it's almost like
01:02:13.000that's part of the arsenal that's kind of the uh that's that's part of the weapons that you have
01:02:17.900using your platform to to influence people and strategically they're obviously trying to
01:02:23.840take out gary price how dare you say something that uh you know opposes the regime right yeah
01:02:29.900and good for him for you know for doing that i mean i'm sure he anticipated there would be some
01:02:33.940some pushback for that he's not you know he's not stupid but um it's pretty ridiculous how far
01:02:39.640they've gone though i think it's it's so i made a tweet earlier uh that i think you know speaks to
01:02:46.220it the unique brand of cancel culture in canada is extremely cringe as it belligerently encourages
01:02:51.640stupidity insecurity and an unfounded hypersensitivity to every possible dimension
01:02:57.660of how something might be construed as offensive it's like oh he he he made a message about uh this
01:03:04.340you know time sensitive bill he made a comment about a time sensitive bill and it was a few days
01:03:10.460away from some from some anniversary of a shooting doesn't he know that and it's like yeah are you
01:03:16.020guys kidding me right now doesn't he know that probably not i mean he's my age you know he's
01:03:20.900like i don't remember it was a baby with this who you know it's 30 years ago it wasn't like it
01:03:24.900happened last year or last week you know it's it's really reaching but the other problem with
01:03:31.000this is that this has become an industry the outrage industry is is where um i saw a funny
01:03:36.540little cartoon somebody sent me the other day about how um you know what the news used to be
01:03:40.160it was just the news and it was boring because it was generally the same thing every day there
01:03:43.440wasn't a whole lot to you know and then the competitors come in and start you know scaring
01:03:47.820people and saying crazy stuff and high-speed car chases and all this so it's it's now become again
01:03:52.080the competition for eyeballs so outraging people and creating villains and creating all kinds of
01:03:57.720you know it's like a reality show it's just drama everywhere out of nothing but that's what they do
01:04:02.740to to make money and to get clicks so they go looking for it when they can't find any they
01:04:06.940just invent it or they'll just create it out of nothing out of thin air uh you know and there you
01:04:11.780go there's your news cycle for the day there's your clicks there's your paycheck go home and
01:04:15.160see you tomorrow we'll see who the villain is tomorrow we'll find someone else who needs to
01:04:19.040be canceled or destroyed or you know something else you got to be outraged about tomorrow you'll
01:04:22.980completely forget about has george floyd gotten justice yet by the way has that been is there
01:04:27.900justice for justice for floyd floyd has been his justice been delivered i'm not sure they'll just
01:04:32.780move on to something else is that you know as pigtail girl has greta thunberg is that sorted
01:04:38.560out now has the earth been saved it has ukraine been it doesn't matter it's just something else
01:04:43.360every day because it's that's where the money is is chasing people's outrage and attention and
01:04:47.700they have short attention spans so that'll you know it's it's dumb but yeah the gun ban stuff is
01:04:52.660told you we told you yeah i've been saying you've got these useless gun lobbies in canada especially
01:04:59.840they don't uh if you can't and everyone knows it they'll say you can't talk about that out loud
01:05:05.640you can't you can't say that we don't talk about that like stuff like that here in canada
01:05:08.720We don't do that, you know, like the NRA and stuff, stuff. And everybody knows, you know, what we're talking about. If you can't say it out loud, you can't debate it.
01:05:20.080If you're too afraid to even speak why it's important, if not critically necessary, for a free population, a free society to be armed to a level that is as a deterrent to its state power, why that's important.
01:05:40.340If you can't even have that discussion, you're done.
01:05:48.640But, you know, they're going to point to, you know, dead kids and these dead women and that kind of thing and say, well, your right to go, you know, shoot paper targets and paper plates does not outweigh the rights of these people not to be mass murder and so on.
01:06:00.960And you're going to lose because you refuse to engage the actual, you know, the real elephant in the room is why do you want all of the guns?
01:09:41.220So they'll just acquiesce and agree to things just for the sake of keeping the peace and so on.
01:09:45.440But you're giving it all away, and you're giving it all away to people that don't deserve to have this kind of power and influence over us.
01:10:00.760How could they? I can't to sit there and lie all the time just through your teeth, knowing that who cares, you know, like the media is going to cover for you.
01:10:12.480There'll be some people here and there on the Internet, but we're going to censor that, Greg.
01:10:57.640but they did. Thank goodness for that. Don't worry. They're going to take care of it. Give
01:11:01.900them, give them all of the speech power. We'll let them monopolize the internet, communications,
01:11:07.600violence, everything, just the finance sector. We'll just let them control absolutely everything,
01:11:12.980have a monopoly on everything. And we'll just quietly sit here and, and, and it'll be fine.
01:11:19.740Sure. I'm sure these people with a horrendous track record of, of deceptive, suspicious,
01:11:25.580uh disingenuous unethical behavior with this immense amount of power will do nothing but
01:11:31.860benevolent things with it i'm sure i don't see there's anything to worry about you don't get
01:11:36.300headlines like this without greasing the wheels a bit literally literally what he said oh but it
01:11:42.020was a joke no it was very very yeah yeah absolutely just just uh i wanted to touch on uh back to your
01:11:52.160time ours oh yeah yeah so you know i i i ran for the ppc the one time i noticed that the bias of
01:12:02.960the media what they say on media really kind of snowballs into something really uh awful in public
01:12:09.120life uh for example they would say things about the ppc and when i was out there uh you know going
01:12:15.260door to door people would freak out and say oh my god you're from the ppc like you're a racist you
01:12:19.700I had volunteers, I want to say assaulted, but they had stuff thrown at them.
01:12:24.740I had an 18-year-old volunteer who was physically intimidated.
01:12:28.240And this is from the biased media, and that's kind of the consequence of that.
01:12:32.560Now, I heard you were telling me after you got out that you had a much more kind of deadly version of that behind bars,
01:12:41.700where you were on TV, you were the big, big bad man on TV saying,
01:12:47.120You know, the leader of Diagilon and white supremacy, this white supremacy, that racist.
01:12:51.380And then you're in jail, an enclosed space with violent criminals who happen to be native, who happen to be indigenous.
01:12:59.560And, you know, from what I hear in Saskatchewan, some of these native and indigenous young men are very kind of programs to be like, you know, white man bad.
01:13:07.680And like, you know, these racists are horrible.
01:13:11.760And you basically were telling me that this had led to altercations where it could have been bad, could have been a bad outcome, to say the least.
01:13:33.020It's not like there's someone right there.
01:13:35.380You know, the guards are in the bubble, they call it, right?
01:13:37.860It's like a little enclosed fortress where they just watch from behind the glass, like, what are they doing now?
01:13:42.980Jesus Christ, these people are animals.
01:13:44.800You know, and even then, like, if there's something going on, like, they're not going to rush in there and put themselves at risk to pull you out of there.
01:14:50.260But for the most part, I got along with quite a few of them.
01:14:53.880But, yeah, there was, especially early on, there was a couple of, you know.
01:14:58.980But, yeah, you know, you've got people, you know, people send me mean messages and this and that.
01:15:05.120Like, well, there's been people, and I'll bring one of them up specifically here, this so-called—and I'm trying to track her down.
01:15:11.680If anyone knows who Elizabeth Simons is, if this is a real person or not, I'd really like to talk to her because she's one of the people of many that is being basically leaned on as the expert on me.
01:15:26.500She's quoted in dozens of publications telling people that I'm a white supremacist and a racist and a terrorist, potentially, and things like that.
01:15:35.660So that's the story and the character that they've built around me.
01:15:39.660And it very, you know, it led to, you know, life-threatening situations for me because of the lies that they've told.
01:15:45.300And that's something that I, you know, had to deal with there and I'll, you know, deal with, you know, ongoing on an ongoing basis.
01:15:50.760So if anyone knows who this person is, they refuse to comment.
01:15:54.120They refuse to give any contact information or refuse to divulge anything like that at the Canadian Anti-Hate Network because, you know, do they really need much of an explanation?
01:16:04.820But if anybody knows who that is or can put me in touch, I'd really appreciate it.
01:16:35.940We hunted them across the earth to the present day and hung a lot of them and shipped them off to Israel for trials and had them executed and so on.
01:17:12.440because they'll say that I'm inciting people
01:17:14.980to commit violence and do these kinds of things
01:17:16.720And when I've, as far as I can tell, the only violence that's been incited or, you know, perpetrated as a result of anything I've said has been towards myself based upon the people reporting on me.
01:17:31.980And I don't expect an apology from them anytime soon because they're just going to double down.
01:17:36.320And again, they're never going to admit they're wrong.
01:17:38.980Everybody's a victim, especially them.
01:17:43.120So, yeah, it's, you know, be careful in jail, kids.
01:17:46.720It's not it's not a not a not a nice environment to be in.
01:17:51.480But, yeah, there's there's you're going to you're going to run into the problem when you're when you're an infamous white supremacist in a jail full of 98 percent, you know, native gang members.
01:18:00.840It's it's can go it can go a number of ways.
01:18:05.040You when you first told me that story, he's telling me, you know, Jeremy's telling me this story over the phone.
01:18:10.600and you know you're so kind of casual about it like oh yeah and then they were trying to corner
01:18:15.740me and surround me and this is how i got out of it and it's just like jeremy like you're the only
01:18:20.820type of person who would so casually be talking about anyone else this would be the scariest
01:18:26.300moment of their life a life or death situation and you're just like oh yeah they try to surround
01:18:30.840me and i just top seven through this guy you know choke that guy whatever i was fine um so top seven
01:18:37.200top seven maybe top eight it's up there i don't know man you're you're it's just that's just how
01:18:42.920i that's just how i i cope i mean i've uh the first time i've ever shot at i was laughing
01:18:46.660i was giggling you know not because it wasn't terrifying but because that's just how my body
01:18:50.460that's just the way my brain's wired you know i was sitting there like a defense mechanism yeah
01:18:55.040yeah it's you can you know you can laugh or you can cry but you know one of these things is going
01:18:59.480to carry you a lot further than the other um you know one guy was a couple of times one one guy
01:19:03.760took some shots at us one time uh first time for very very first time but it was just like one guy
01:19:08.720at night somewhere we never found him but took a couple of shots at me another guy because he was
01:19:12.540smoking a cigarette at night and you can see that from pretty far away and we were like i don't know
01:19:16.580if you should be smoking that he's like what's gonna happen bullet comes right through the tower
01:19:21.120whoa you know we kind of like we're giggling about it but then another the first real uh you know
01:19:26.200gun fight we got into it was you know me and my buddy uh yeah uh dicky were behind this wall and
01:19:32.000you know, we're both laughing. He's talking about, uh, yeah, it, it was funny, but it wasn't like,
01:19:37.140it was terrifying, but it was also like, this is just how you deal with it. Um, it's, it's more,
01:19:41.500it's better than, you know, Oh my God, then you're having a mental breakdown. You're still,
01:19:45.200you're still there. You still got a job to do and you got to deal with it. And that's just probably
01:19:47.620how, you know, guys are, you're trained and programmed or conditioned or so on, but that's
01:19:51.320just how it, that's just how it comes out. I'm, I'm, uh, maybe I'm crazy. I laugh. I laugh about,
01:19:57.220laugh about things when are that are probably not funny but that's just uh you know everybody
01:20:03.660processes things differently and that's that's just how i do it and um i'm glad it was me and
01:20:08.940not someone else um i will say this you know it wasn't like i said i've been in worse places it
01:20:13.880wasn't it wasn't that bad um but i wouldn't want to be going i wouldn't want to be just off of
01:20:18.940right out of the street like you work at sobeys you know and you get in a you get a dui or something
01:20:23.660or something happens to just your regular, normal person,
01:20:26.520and then they'll just throw you in there with these animals, you know.
01:21:18.920you know we exchanged photos no we yeah we had pow i i would laugh i said to the guys in there
01:21:23.940i was like we fed pow's better than this and we did you know they ate the same things that we did
01:21:27.720the food in there was absolutely terrible um it's just every corner they could cut with that they
01:21:32.180cut it a couple of times um but yeah i mean i don't know i mean there's different kinds of
01:21:37.740torture right and if that's what the un says is tort i mean it i suppose um to just lock somebody
01:21:42.440in a box all day with no yeah i mean it's it's not good i don't i don't know i'm not a psychology
01:21:47.960expert but it very well may be um if those are the rules yeah there was just 15 minutes twice a day
01:21:53.660when you're in that uh when you're in that situation for days you know five ten days sometimes
01:21:57.520um when i was held in remand in dartmouth i was in i was in a cell there by myself for six days
01:22:02.960just wait for them to come get me you know and the door never opened they put you in the door
01:22:07.680doesn't close behind it doesn't open again for six days so you just you know find ways to i did
01:22:13.360walked a lot of circles walking circles a lot and and i'm curious because you know when you're on
01:22:18.860the outside like me you're active on telegram you're you know you're doing streams and stuff
01:22:24.000like you're on technology sifting through all the sludge all all the crazy on the devices what was
01:22:29.160it like to go from that to having no device just having a bible around maybe if you're lucky yeah
01:22:34.960yeah it was kind of nice actually um i didn't i mean you'd be surprised you get over fast
01:22:40.800within a day you know you're just like well because there's nothing you can do about it it's
01:22:44.700not like the stress of like if you've lost your phone like you don't know where it is or you've
01:22:48.960left it behind you're like ah shit it's like you're in jail they're not giving you it's just
01:22:52.400forget about it you know it's over so it's like well there's nothing i can do about it there's
01:22:57.000nothing to you know and it's nice not to have that uh i i definitely noticed that it it does have
01:23:03.240a more profound impact i think on people's mental state than they realize um um i'm trying to not
01:23:10.160be on it nearly as much to just don't pick it up i remember we talked about this before don't
01:23:14.440the first thing you do when you wake up is don't go look at your phone you know at least get up and
01:23:17.600go shave eat something do something first before you you go right back into this because the amount
01:23:23.140of sensory input all the different story it's just a lot for your and i felt really um general i mean
01:23:28.120i was fine a few people are you okay are you okay i'm fine but i did notice that uh probably the
01:23:33.960first two days two maybe three days after i was out i was tired a lot and it was just like over
01:23:39.840like sensory overload because i'm in this i'm in this room with 30 guys 40 guys same guys every day
01:23:46.520everybody's wearing the same things the same thing on tv every the same food every day it's just the
01:23:50.100same thing there's very little you know you get excited by like is it snowing out oh my god and
01:23:54.660you're trying to look through the bars to see if like that's the that's the big update of the day
01:23:58.360now there's snow outside so we're going to talk about that for an hour to to this to these you
01:24:02.580know crazy um it overloads your brain i think and i think it definitely contributes a lot of
01:24:08.760people's anxiety and and burnout and depression and so on so interesting yeah it's not good I
01:24:14.560think I think it's something that should be limited for sure or at least managed in a way
01:24:19.080that you'd go to work like at a certain time of the day like six seven o'clock it's done just put
01:24:23.520it away you know watch your stories whatever it is you're gonna you know do and wind down and go
01:24:28.720to bed but if you're on there all the time I think it it probably just to guess just to guess
01:24:33.980because i've noticed it feels different like your um your your thoughts are definitely
01:24:38.540it's a lot more of this pinball machine effect going on when you've got too much
01:24:42.620too much information to think about and look at so definitely um i didn't mind having it taken
01:24:47.440away actually yeah yeah yeah it's kind of a nice break get some uh you know people try to do a
01:24:54.100what's it called dopamine detox and uh you're kind of forced into one right yeah and and they're
01:24:59.640designed to keep your attention to the social it's like their uh facebook and other apps i mean
01:25:04.720they're all the same outsourced a lot of the research and coding to people that work in casinos
01:25:09.320to to maximize again eyeballs is money right so they want you to on this app if they could have
01:25:14.720you on it 24 7 they would because that's the most the most money for them so it's not like it's not
01:25:19.240made in a way to to treat you like you know we're worried about your mental health we want to and
01:25:24.720they were doing things like experiments you remember this where it's like facebook was let's
01:25:27.560see if we can make them depressed let's show them pictures of their ex-girlfriends you know let's do
01:25:31.220these kinds of things and then check in and they were doing this kind of stuff they don't care about
01:25:35.100you at all so they'll they'll get you on there 24 7 and they're trying to make it addictive like
01:25:38.640the notifications like they're satisfying to click on right and they're the every little aspect it's
01:25:43.780like a it's like a slot machine it's designed to make it um enjoyable for your brain to use and
01:25:48.720you know you get those dopamine hits from especially uh especially tiktok it's got the
01:25:52.860it's got the lever pull the lever it'll burn you out and that's another probably another reason why
01:25:57.600people are so easily distracted and there's this it's too much you can't keep up with everything
01:26:02.280you know by the time you figure out what's going on over here you're already you know you're a week
01:26:06.040behind you know and the funny the really thought uh interesting thing is i thought i would be so
01:26:10.580far behind you know i was like man it's been over two and a half months or something i don't even
01:26:14.720know what's going on there not really much has happened no you would think there has because
01:26:19.560there's so much news and clips and stories but of substance of real impact or even worth talking
01:26:25.540about very little has changed in two and a half months there's a couple of things that's it you
01:26:31.700know but they still tricked people into this 24 7 you gotta be online all you're gonna you're
01:26:36.120gonna miss it you're gonna miss something no you're not you're not gonna miss much it's very
01:26:39.760it's very true it's very true when you're first away for a couple days from social media you think
01:26:44.840you've missed so much but you come back and it's like oh i just missed some videos from libs of
01:26:50.240tiktok so i was i was caught up in about two days the first thing i saw was um i saw somebody sent
01:26:55.500me a link to the uh is his name yay now is that yeah his name is yay formally he's doing like a
01:27:01.260thing okay whatever right whatever is that's his name sure he's there dressed as he is you know
01:27:09.140and alex jones is there with a with a lizard mask on and i was like what is going on how long was i
01:27:16.920in jail exactly what is happening uh but besides that that was you know that was one of the first
01:27:21.940things i saw so i i was concerned that things had taken a serious turn um but you know it's
01:27:27.860more of the same generally the same there's the there's the image for you he comes out of jail
01:27:32.460and he sees this what did i miss oh my god what philip what did you do yeah um and yeah speaking
01:27:40.820of that we got a super chat uh from sarah jane twenty dollars thank you very much love your
01:27:45.020content greg great to see you jeremy in a long couple months without you
01:27:48.960uh and yeah if the mods can post a link for uh for jeremy's uh give send go as well because he
01:27:57.460does have a long legal legal battle ahead of him and for people you know because i saw some negative
01:28:03.360comments in chat like oh he's a grifter or whatever you haven't done anything wrong in my personal
01:28:09.380opinion i won't go allegedly not allegedly legal reasons but um you know how much money have you
01:28:14.780had to pay as a as a podcaster with a with a controversial you know dissident podcast how much
01:28:22.040does that cost you uh so far uh i've probably paid about well i had probably about 40 000 to
01:28:31.720my previous lawyer and this guy maybe 70 70 to 80 somewhere ballpark yeah and uh it's going to be
01:28:39.120another um 100k or so this is the guys this is the price to for speaking out in canada this is
01:28:48.940what happens they they come up they come after you they say i've got to take uh i've got to take
01:28:53.300equity out of my house and and you know sell some things and so on and that's just like i said you're
01:28:58.780you're only innocent if you can afford to be there's no uh it's crazy there's no if you can't
01:29:03.880afford a decent lawyer it makes all the difference in the world that's the only advice if you get in
01:29:09.260trouble get a fucking lawyer do not do well actually the magna carta says this is all you
01:29:16.500Don't be doing any of these Facebook lawyers or any of this stuff.
01:29:19.860You're going to get absolutely raped, okay?
01:29:22.280They're going to absolutely destroy you, and especially if you're, you know, maybe somebody like myself where there's a lot of motivation to bury you.
01:29:46.000It's pretty wild what they'll try to do and get away with.
01:29:48.560But, yeah, you need to get somebody that can represent your interests and argue for you in a competent way and is going to do the work and do the research and all that.
01:30:02.260You're already guilty as far as people are concerned because, well, you wouldn't be in jail if you weren't guilty of something, you know, the way people are.
01:30:08.540And the longer you're in there, the worse it's going to be for you at trial and stuff like that.
01:30:12.140So it's all it takes, actually, in Canada is just for somebody to accuse you.
01:30:16.520And then the police will say, OK, and they can arrest you and take you away and throw you in jail.
01:30:20.180And then it's up to you to get yourself out of there if you can, if you can afford to.
01:30:24.080Yeah. So, yeah, make sure you do donate to Jeremy if you can, because he has a long legal battle ahead of him.
01:30:29.960On the plus side, he has an amazing guy fighting for him.
01:38:49.060And I'm Pierre Polyev, and I've always stood up against mandates.
01:38:53.440all the time i i never endorsed that yeah okay buddy and it's like surfing he's a great surfer
01:39:00.340you know you know what surfers do they just paddle along until the wave comes in and then
01:39:05.040they just jump right on top of it and sail it home and that's uh that's what professional
01:39:09.400politicians do and they'll let someone like uh you know like the other guys like uh hillier and
01:39:15.040bernier and sloan and all these other guys that were going out and you know being chastised and
01:39:20.040And, you know, Roman Baber, a whole bunch of, I can't remember them all, but, you know, they'll take these unpopular positions, anti, you know, what the government narrative is, and they'll be dragged with the coals over it, beaten and, you know.
01:39:31.440Getting arrested, taking the arrows, yep.
01:39:34.520Right, yeah, taking the slings and arrows, and then when it becomes politically advantageous, you'll have someone like that, you know, come in.
01:39:43.000I saw Ferry shared a pretty funny meme.
01:39:44.740It was like some rich, I don't know who it was, some rich old guy putting in a railroad spike, you know.
01:39:50.040And he's like, here I am, like, pretending like I did anything at the very end when really I just showed up for a photo op to make it look like I did any of this.
01:39:59.060And, you know, I compared it to, like, old wars back in the Middle Ages and stuff.
01:40:03.180They would have – there would be kind of a policy.
01:40:05.220Some guys would be like, if there's no blood on your sword, we'll kill you.
01:40:07.640You know, it means you were hiding the whole time.
01:41:41.140After the fact, you can say all kinds of shit, but I know who was where.
01:41:44.720I knew where everyone was standing when it was risky to do it,
01:41:48.480and there was no guarantee of how it was going to work.
01:41:50.260I knew where everybody, who was who, back in February, right?
01:41:53.540Because that was when you put it all on the line and show me what you believe.
01:41:57.420Show me what you're willing to put your beliefs on the line.
01:41:59.540You want to put your career on the line?
01:42:01.340Some people did, and I respect them for that.
01:42:04.680And some people were punished for it and had to pay for it and so on.
01:42:08.560But if you're if you're marketing yourself as some kind of leader or somebody that's these are the things I believe and then do it, then walk the walk.
01:42:17.440Don't sit around on the sidelines on the bench and wait until it looks like this team's going to win and then sneak in at the back, come in the back door and walk up to the podium at the end and start handing out trophies like you were here the whole fucking time because that's what they're doing.
01:42:31.500And it's disgusting. And they, you know, no mention of any of the people that came before that paved the way for them.
01:42:37.440They're just more than happy to, again, get on that surfboard and ride that wave all the way home and act like they're morally superior all of a sudden.
01:42:45.080And by the way, by the way, morally superior conservative party.
01:42:49.000How's the war crimes go? I've been gone a couple of months.
01:42:51.260I haven't been able to keep up with all the war crimes that were being committed by the Azov battalion in Ukraine that were sending all of our money and stuff.
01:42:57.340It turns out that's a giant laundromat as well for the Democrat Party in the United States, it seems.
01:48:27.980And that's the price of, you know, not caring very much about anything but yourself and, you know, your own narcissistic little bubble for the last 20 years.
01:48:36.200You know, if you had a bunch of people that were like, no, no, we demand, you know, we want some serious, we want some serious people to do some, then you would get serious leaders.
01:48:44.680But until Canada decides it wants to be a serious country, it's going to continue to have unserious, you know, clownery as, you know, leadership.
01:51:46.420Like I just said, the politicians and the leadership choices, if you want to call them that, are a reflection of our collective apathy.
01:51:55.320So the problem is us, and we have to start thinking differently and start to bring back these values and things that matter to us and living in a way that is true to that.
01:52:11.280It's not enough to say, you can say all kinds of things you want on the Internet all day,
01:52:14.420but then if you just go right back to living the same way and consuming all the same garbage
01:52:18.240and being just a slave, a slob, nothing's going to change.
01:52:23.980And that's what a lot of people were depressed and isolated and cut off
01:52:28.460in these curated, managed digital worlds.
01:52:33.320And we had that first kind of get-together in Saskatchewan,
01:52:37.120and there was 40, 50 people there that came from all over the country
01:52:39.700that didn't know each other previously and they had a great time and everybody was so happy and
01:52:43.740it was it was just a you could you could feel it that this was like something had happened here
01:52:48.880like ottawa on a much smaller scale but you remember what it was like all these people were
01:52:52.300like they just felt better that to be amongst um you know other peers their their tribe their
01:52:58.060their community like everyone deserves to have that everyone deserves to feel like they belong
01:53:01.420somewhere and that they're accepted somewhere and i don't it doesn't matter who you are there's a
01:53:05.780community for i mean there's there's furries for god's sakes you know there's people that dress up
01:53:09.760whatever whatever you know what i mean but uh there's people that you know think and feel about
01:53:15.980things a certain way like we do and and why are we doing it no one's gonna hold your hand and do
01:53:21.680it for you so i'm like we'll go find them they're around uh there's you know 10 20 000 people
01:53:26.460listening to this or whatever there's probably some in your town i get letters and you know
01:53:29.780stuff from all over the country um doesn't matter where you're at there's somebody is within driving
01:53:35.360distance or even just you can just talk and know that they're nearby and uh do things together go
01:53:40.780and get a coffee go go do something uh get rid of this or at least start subtracting digital hours
01:53:47.120from your life and start replacing it with real life you know human interaction um because that's
01:53:51.780healthy and that's normal this living through this which is controlled by billionaires trying
01:53:56.220to make you insane and steal all your money that's not normal that's uh gross and we need we need less
01:54:01.440of that and i think um healing collectively uh as a as a as a people as a society to reconnect
01:54:09.200with each other start living in more positive and healthy ways will start will have a permeating
01:54:14.100effect that will you know kind of go outward and then when you have a bunch of people that are
01:54:17.580thinking a little more clearly and and have each other's backs and have you know higher standards
01:54:22.580and higher values for how things want to happen as these you know groups kind of get bigger and
01:54:27.000more cohesive and uh you know working together they're gonna they're gonna want people to
01:54:32.580represent them in that way they're not gonna they're not gonna be satisfied with just you
01:54:36.440know some crackerjack guy shows up out of a box i'm the new i was just parachuted in from god
01:54:42.180knows where i'm your new representative for this like who are you you know leader of the watch like
01:54:47.840get get get out of here um so i think people have been demoralized too much they've been they've
01:54:52.700been beaten down and demoralized and made to feel like they're this big and that they don't matter
01:54:55.740and that their impact and they're you're just here to consume things and shut up and go away
01:54:59.500that's wrong that's very wrong and it's very incorrect and when you can if you can rebuild
01:55:04.120people and build them from the from the ground up and and make them make them proud of themselves
01:55:08.200again make them be you know uh i'm not i'm not a piece of garbage i i matter i exist and my life is
01:55:14.000is not meaningless and i i do deserve to have my issues uh you know represented fairly and people
01:55:20.440to represent me these kinds of things and not be this browbeaten you know you know scared little
01:55:25.660dog that's afraid to get off the couch and just hides in the house all day so you know we'll start
01:55:30.860working this is going to take 100 years to fix you know maybe but it's you know how do you move
01:55:36.560a mountain one one rock at a time or something right so um that's that's what i think is the
01:55:41.660the primary thing we should be doing is is working on ourselves and fixing it and you know go out
01:55:45.980and and have communities like that because the state's not going to help you uh the these people
01:55:50.760are not here to be your friend and not so if you're going into the future alone it's going
01:55:53.940to be cold and dark and you're probably not going to do well um so there's a lot of us clearly as
01:55:59.380ottawa demonstrated there's millions and millions of people that have a lot of concerns and um about
01:56:04.240the future and so on so hey if if the if the the institutions and mechanisms and infrastructure we
01:56:10.440have now isn't isn't going to be there for you then you need to figure that out so you need to
01:56:15.520you know find some friends and uh you know try and try and make yourself as insulated from uh from
01:56:23.000these from these these factors as possible well put well put we got a super chat from mitch murphy
01:56:29.300shout out to mitch murphy red pill rapper he says in all caps did you meet any actual racists in jail
01:56:35.700jeremy oh yeah oh yeah i did there was a few yeah it was a couple um okay so i uh you know i i just
01:56:48.360want to say before we go you are such an inspiration to me jeremy you know you're a
01:56:53.680canadian veteran and then not only that you you came home from from afghanistan and you got you
01:56:59.240became a really good broadcaster you're a hilarious entertaining guy and then on top of that you know
01:57:05.320you're being persecuted by the state apparatus and you're even getting better at you know
01:57:10.720off air you're kind of getting into the whole here's the evidence like that's liable that's
01:57:16.320this you know i need to figure i learn fast yeah yeah but you know you're stacking up all these
01:57:20.940skills and and you're taking it with with so much grace and pizzazz and it's super inspiring but
01:57:27.420you know what what's coming next or and in another way is there anything you've learned from this last
01:57:33.280chapter of uh being thrown in jail uh for having a popular podcast as it were um you know what what
01:57:41.960have you any lessons to take away from this and and kind of like how's your mindset changed moving
01:57:48.100forward i mean you're wearing a suit on stream that's that's kind of is that not well i was i
01:57:53.160was at the bank earlier but yeah you know hey you know if i don't know um i mean they're clearly
01:58:02.180taking this pretty seriously you know um i i had um and not that that's going to change too much
01:58:08.820Not a nonchalant attitude about it, but kind of a laissez-faire, you know, just kind of having fun.
01:58:14.460And it was more of a hobby, I guess, and kind of just something I was doing.
01:58:18.460I never really sat in it as like, this is what I'm doing now.
01:58:23.500This is who I am, and this is how it's going to be.
01:58:25.960And I don't like that a lot of other people have gone to great lengths to frame me as a certain thing, as a villain, as whatever.
01:58:36.640like you're the and uh i just kind of man i just kind of did did this you know i i'm just kind of
01:58:41.900doing my thing and kind of ignoring that but uh you know if they if they want to uh they want to
01:58:46.720take this to the next level then i'm i'm happy to do that you know i'll uh i'll get serious too
01:58:51.700you know um but yeah i'm going to continue doing uh doing what i do going forward and
01:58:56.140probably put some more hours in than usual and because you know i i enjoy it i i like doing it
01:59:04.900But more importantly, I like seeing – to see how much it meant to so many people, it would be a crime to stop.
01:59:12.360It would be – if anybody gets anything positive out of it, it gets them through the week.
01:59:17.700It does anything for them at all, that I can do that.
01:59:20.840I can provide something for someone that makes their life a little bit easier, a little bit better.