Greg Wycliffe - February 14, 2023


LIVE with Josh Alexander, Catholic Highschool Student Arrested for his Beliefs in Canada


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00:00:00.000 Catholic students getting suspended and getting arrested for voicing their Catholic opinions.
00:00:07.200 This is a petition to stand with Josh Alexander.
00:00:10.580 The link is in the description.
00:00:11.760 I highly suggest you go sign it.
00:00:13.160 But as it says, Josh was excluded from attending his Catholic high school because during class debates and on social media,
00:00:19.800 he expressed his Christian beliefs that there are only two genders.
00:00:23.620 That students cannot switch between genders and that boy should not be permitted into the girl's bathroom.
00:00:27.840 Josh was suspended after trying to organize a student walkout because the school refused to address the safety concerns of a female student.
00:00:34.820 I am so excited to talk to Joshua today, and he's with me right now.
00:00:40.900 How are you doing? How are you doing on this Tuesday afternoon?
00:00:44.900 Pretty well. Can't complain. Thanks for having me on.
00:00:47.500 Yeah, yeah. No problem, man. No problem.
00:00:50.020 I mean, first and foremost, when I first saw this headline, I really couldn't believe it.
00:00:54.600 um you know it's like really like a catholic student getting arrested thrown in a cop car
00:00:59.360 outside of a catholic school so i was hoping maybe you know because it started with a suspension in
00:01:05.060 2022 so maybe you could kind of take us back and tell us like the story from the very beginning
00:01:11.140 like take us to like this debate class like was it what did it happen before the debate class like
00:01:15.780 you know did these transgender students see you before then tell us a little bit about the first
00:01:20.860 kind of leg of this saga of when you first got suspended there at a Catholic high school.
00:01:26.040 Yeah, for sure. So what would have happened, it would have all started back in October,
00:01:30.800 or maybe even September, when I was addressed by female students who were concerned about
00:01:35.960 the male students that were using their washrooms. These male students would use the entire identity
00:01:45.160 crisis to hide uh their perverted actions but anyways they uh were using the female washrooms
00:01:51.960 female students were concerned and i decided to um say something about it and uh i was actually
00:01:59.100 in a law class when a debate broke out about this topic um i was getting shouted at called
00:02:04.780 the racist to transphobe homophobia you name it in class in class oh yeah and uh like staff and
00:02:11.480 students are involved in this but um with the heckling oh yeah absolutely staff are also
00:02:17.840 heckling you calling you names oh yeah well like um so it actually it happened in two different
00:02:22.920 classes one in my law class and the second in my math class all in the same day um that was kind
00:02:27.900 of what sparked this entire event oh yeah math the racist class okay wow i guess this is just
00:02:35.920 the beginning of the clownery, but please continue. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, I, I made a
00:02:42.560 pretty firm stance. I, uh, stated what I believed and I backed it by basic biology and, um, my
00:02:49.580 religious beliefs and just reality in general. But yeah. Yeah. Why do you think there are
00:02:54.300 only two genders? I wonder, eh? Um, but, uh, yeah, I, uh, I stated what I believed. Um,
00:03:03.820 I used some scripture to back it I ended up getting in a even longer and more heated debate
00:03:09.900 with the math teacher but after all this happened I decided to go straight to the office and
00:03:17.260 but when I got to the office to make a complaint about the male students in the female washrooms
00:03:22.600 on behalf of the female students that spoke to me I was told that they were already going to
00:03:28.480 need to talk to me about my uh behavior and uh yeah so I made the complaint um a female student
00:03:35.120 made a complaint into week after that and then uh sorry they made it the female student made a
00:03:40.740 complaint about you or about no about the washrooms about the washrooms okay she made the exact same
00:03:46.020 complaint I did and uh yeah they ignored the two of us um so I decided to throw together a protest
00:03:53.200 outside the uh the high school and this and was this is this the walkout yeah this would be the
00:03:58.800 walkout um it was scheduled for november 25th and uh i was really i was uh suspended on november 23rd
00:04:06.760 two days leading up to the walkout right so it's probably safe to say that they intentionally
00:04:12.760 suspended you before the scheduled protest that you were putting on against the uh uh men being
00:04:18.860 in the in the woman's bathroom now what i find so interesting about that i just want to point
00:04:23.720 this out because this female student came to you like she right she didn't go to a teacher
00:04:31.600 with her concern of like hey i'm concerned about uh you know males or transgender uh students being
00:04:38.080 in the females washroom they didn't come to a teacher they didn't go to a principal they went
00:04:41.680 to you a fellow student like hey josh i i'm up can you do something about this i find that very
00:04:47.180 interesting that uh that a female student would come to you and not an actual authority figure
00:04:52.980 in the school like like a grown-up um to to kind of voice their concerns in a catholic school
00:04:58.880 yeah i was i was very new to the school i barely knew any students there
00:05:03.520 and uh like i had only joined there in september but i can only imagine uh the reason why the
00:05:10.380 students would have come to me it was because i have a history of activism in the public board
00:05:14.580 um before i came to the catholic board um yeah i was i was suspended probably three times
00:05:21.660 uh for the student walkouts across canada again in solidarity with the freedom convoy
00:05:27.640 oh okay okay so you have been uh doing some activism before this yeah yeah so that's why
00:05:35.100 that's why i did the protest it's something i'd done before i knew how to do it and uh
00:05:38.940 i just decided to give it a shot because our voices weren't being heard so i decided to
00:05:43.140 organized one, the Catholic board as well. And, uh, no, look where it's gotten me.
00:05:48.000 Yeah. Yeah. Into multiple cop cars and some multiple headlines, uh, public. So you were
00:05:54.400 in public school, the public school system before, and this was your first time in a
00:05:58.780 Catholic school. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah. I came to the school, uh, the Catholic school
00:06:02.940 this September and, uh, I was, I've been removed ever since November, basically.
00:06:08.920 right right um and did the transgender topic come up in public schools uh was there big of
00:06:18.100 a backlash or did that not become as hot of a topic before uh it never became as much of a
00:06:23.580 topic it's probably something uh i would have touched on um but i was very busy with what was
00:06:30.060 going on with the covid restrictions and all that naturally yeah so i had i had a lot going on there
00:06:36.740 My principal at that school called the cops with me probably four times because of the walkouts I was organizing.
00:06:43.460 And he actually, the OPP actually ended up taking my side on that one.
00:06:46.960 They informed him that there is this thing called the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, and I do have a right to demonstrate peacefully.
00:06:52.340 But yeah, so I had a different response in the public than I did in the Catholic court.
00:06:57.740 Yeah, and how would you compare them?
00:07:00.220 I mean, the fact that you, it was interesting that you had the cops standing up for you during COVID restrictions, but, uh, with this Catholic scenario, they just kind of, you know, threw you away in a, in a, in a paddy wagon, as it seems from that, this iconic, uh, this iconic photo here.
00:07:16.820 Let me, let me bring it up on screen here for a second.
00:07:19.240 That's been making the rounds.
00:07:20.720 I'm sure, you know, Chris Stacy, he took that photo.
00:07:24.700 and and this was uh so this was not back in november was it no this was uh this monday this
00:07:35.020 past monday right and so the suspension happened back in november but this was because you were
00:07:41.440 back in class and uh you were like endangering uh uh trans like what what's the excuse for them
00:07:49.440 to do this what was the justification for them to do this exactly yeah so I got suspended I got
00:07:56.000 it was an indefinite suspension that ended up being called to an end after 20 days and
00:08:02.360 after that they gave me a bunch of conditions to my return two of them was that I was
00:08:07.780 banned permanently from two of my classes and I also wasn't allowed to speak to certain students
00:08:12.840 this was a obvious and blatant
00:08:15.500 act of discrimination
00:08:18.540 and I decided to
00:08:19.960 with the help of my lawyer
00:08:22.020 and Liberty Coalition Canada
00:08:23.280 inform the school that I wouldn't be
00:08:25.980 complying to those discriminatory conditions
00:08:27.940 yeah and here it is right here
00:08:28.900 Alexander was told by the principal
00:08:30.680 he could only return to the school
00:08:32.180 if he agreed to not use the dead name
00:08:34.080 of any transgender student
00:08:35.340 but you're also saying it was like
00:08:36.980 don't even speak to these people
00:08:38.160 basically
00:08:39.000 and then this is the even crazier part guys
00:08:41.800 and agreed to exclude himself, agreed to exclude himself from his two afternoon classes
00:08:48.380 because those classes are attended by two transgender students
00:08:50.860 who disapprove of Josh's religious beliefs.
00:08:53.380 This is insane because essentially, you know, they're saying,
00:08:57.460 hey, agree to be banned from class with these students in it.
00:09:02.140 Essentially, you are being banished because a transgender student said so
00:09:05.780 or because the principal said so.
00:09:09.140 Is that about right?
00:09:11.180 Yeah, that's the, I know there's a lot of contact between the parents of those transgender students and the school,
00:09:17.300 and they ended up telling me I was banned from those classes permanently because the students felt uncomfortable with my beliefs.
00:09:26.600 So, yeah, they excluded me, I felt it was unlawful, it was discriminatory, and I decided to return to class, regardless of the exclusion.
00:09:35.480 That would have been on January 9th, and I walked around.
00:09:39.420 I went to all my, or actually, I only went to the two afternoon classes I was banned from.
00:09:43.120 I showed up in the afternoon and went to the two classes I was banned from.
00:09:45.800 The vice principal followed me around.
00:09:48.280 They told me to leave the building multiple times.
00:09:51.180 They wrote down anything I said, and they'd just sit behind me in any class.
00:09:56.900 So I finished my day up there.
00:09:58.880 I went home, and after getting home, I received a trespassing notice,
00:10:02.560 as well as another suspension from the school for attending class um the trespassing notice
00:10:09.960 was set to expire on january 31st and i was given a five-day suspension
00:10:13.660 unbelievable so trespassing at a school that you're assigned to go to
00:10:20.840 so obviously that's probably going to be fought in court or tried to you know because that seems
00:10:28.180 a little i'm not a big legal guy but that that seems a little uh you know completely absurd and
00:10:34.720 um so i want to ask about you know like the culture of the school at the catholic school
00:10:40.700 itself especially with the issue of this female student complaining and everything but first like
00:10:45.280 you know what's going through your head when this is happening i know a lot's happened since then
00:10:49.260 but you know when when all this is happening you're getting suspended like you know you have
00:10:53.200 the principal stalking you around the school you know like you you went to catholic school for a
00:10:58.740 reason right like what's kind of going through your head here like does it all just seem like
00:11:02.040 a farce the fact that it's a catholic school at this point or what oh absolutely they've completely
00:11:07.300 surrendered all their beliefs um to in order to maintain their public funding they'll do anything
00:11:14.420 for it and uh it's very obvious at this point yeah yeah i'll say um you know and what was your
00:11:22.580 upbringing like josh and you know why did why did you choose to go to catholic school yeah i was i
00:11:29.540 was raised as an evangelical christian um i'm a born again believer and uh i'm not personally
00:11:36.440 catholic but i would have hoped that there was a little more um decency um in in the catholic board
00:11:43.240 obviously not i'd actually say the catholic board is worse than the public board but
00:11:47.120 wow it is what it is um so let's and let's let's talk speaking of you know the the catholic board
00:11:55.580 being worse let's talk about the actual students like the you were saying that you were getting
00:11:59.360 heckled from multiple different angles calling all the racist bigot all this for just saying
00:12:04.520 hey guys there's two genders i don't think that uh a man can become a woman i just don't uh it's
00:12:09.540 in the bible by the way so this is what garnered all all this heckling what is you know is is the
00:12:15.640 culture of the students there split? Like, what was it like? What's it like being at a Catholic
00:12:19.700 high school in 2023? Is everybody woke? Is it like half and half? You know, what are we dealing
00:12:25.080 with here? Yeah, students are incredibly indoctrinated. I mean, they've been in this
00:12:31.040 system for their entire lives. And it's very apparent. But I would say there are definitely
00:12:37.900 students that support me. I mean, leading up to the walkout, I did have quite a bit of support
00:12:42.040 behind me um until they suspended me and then went class to class in my absence and threatened
00:12:48.100 and uh intimidated all the students so none of them ended up actually uh walking out i forgot
00:12:54.380 maybe 15 students but uh they threatened and intimidated so you're saying they went around
00:12:59.340 to all the classes and said if you if you go to this protest like there will be consequences
00:13:03.560 basically yeah and so in so many words yeah basically that's i was just about to ask like
00:13:10.020 you know is there a culture of fear and submission of like hey guys like you know like i'm sure
00:13:15.080 because i'm sure as you were just saying i'm sure there's a lot of students who do support you
00:13:18.560 but it's like well bro i don't know if i can support you because then there's going to be
00:13:22.060 consequences for me yeah that was the case with quite a bit of uh the uh classes wow man wow um
00:13:31.620 i'm a little like like speechless and a little disheartened to to hear that it's like that
00:13:38.660 because, I mean, this is supposed to be high school.
00:13:41.200 I know that that's happening in workplaces now and also university,
00:13:45.040 but the fact that it's trickling all the way down to high school
00:13:47.400 is kind of just a whole other level of...
00:13:52.040 Man.
00:13:56.380 So it sounds like these trans students have authority over real Christians, right?
00:14:02.200 Like they're able to banish you from the classroom when they want to.
00:14:05.180 um i mean obviously you probably can't believe that this is happening in the catholic school
00:14:11.640 but that being said you know you're probably sort of getting used to this now right like you're kind
00:14:16.740 of seeing this trend of this kind of woke ideology uh what do you think is going on here what do you
00:14:23.200 think we're dealing with is it like some sort of alternative woke religion you know like how do
00:14:29.140 you kind of make this make sense in your head living in Canada in 2023? Yeah for the last
00:14:36.460 several decades the the family unit has been under attack. I think our our government obviously
00:14:43.340 recognizes that the family unit is their most dangerous opponent. They find that threatening
00:14:50.300 so they're doing everything they can to attack it and one of the best things they can do is get to
00:14:55.460 the kids if you can split a family apart you can control the nation and uh that's that's what
00:15:01.420 they're doing and it's been obvious in the public board the catholic board even when you see these
00:15:05.900 uh these drag queen story hours and all that that's this garbage being pushed upon kids um
00:15:12.100 it's just trying to confuse and destroy the entire generation turn them against each other
00:15:17.180 yeah well said well said and on that note you know that's that's kind of the first part
00:15:24.160 of the saga you getting suspended and um you know having transgender students banish you from
00:15:30.960 classrooms but you also uh organized a protest in ottawa against a a drag time story hour i'll play
00:15:38.280 just a quick clip here from uh from a rebel news report of some of that you speaking here
00:15:43.840 i was notified that a uh kids drag story time hour is going on inside so i decided to throw
00:15:51.360 together a poster make an announcement we're here to protest that i'm here to stand for children
00:15:55.400 protecting children their innocence obviously right-wing media like why are we talking to
00:15:59.300 uh well first of all good on you for not even hesitating not even flinching not even blinking
00:16:06.000 in in the in the face of obviously this kind of evil and and very sort of uh you know totalitarian
00:16:12.080 behavior but good on you for for for organizing this protest um and obviously you got thrown in
00:16:18.540 the cop car later on but um what was that experience like was this your first time
00:16:23.600 protesting a drag time story hour what was it like to see this like this huge horde of purple
00:16:29.020 haired people um grown-ups not not just high school students heckling you know now now you
00:16:34.800 have grown uh grown they thems uh in your face what was that like for you um it wasn't my first
00:16:42.720 time. I was at the Peterborough Public Library not too long ago and it was a very similar situation
00:16:49.100 there. I had myself and some of my crew from Save Canada. There's four of us at the time. We got
00:16:55.580 surrounded by over 200 counter protesters and they'd punch us, they'd surround us, they'd
00:17:02.120 shove and they'd try to push us into traffic and all that. So I was kind of used to that
00:17:06.700 going into Ottawa on Wednesday there.
00:17:11.220 But yeah, Wednesday was a similar scene.
00:17:14.440 I had organized a protest.
00:17:16.040 The crowd kind of pushed us away from the doors.
00:17:18.520 And it was just a bit of a standoff.
00:17:20.560 I decided that we'd already communicated with police liaison.
00:17:24.240 We had organized a protest and got the go-ahead in front of the National Arts Centre.
00:17:28.620 And I just decided to walk back to the doors, the front doors.
00:17:32.380 And I had my megaphone and I ended up giving the gospel and all that.
00:17:35.980 but uh not long into my time there i got surrounded again pinned up against the wall and they were
00:17:41.400 attacking us they stole my hat they stomped it out and the police ran in and instead of grabbing
00:17:46.060 grabbing my assaulters they grabbed myself my brother and monty walker there and they threw
00:17:51.540 us into traffic um and then when we tried to get off the road to go back to the sidewalk
00:17:57.540 they uh threw us back onto the road again and then ended up arresting my brother there for
00:18:02.960 being on the road and then they they trespassed him from the NAC so he had to stand at a distance
00:18:11.080 and I went to go back to my original protesting location and visit some of my protesters after
00:18:16.360 the arrest and as I was crossing the crosswalk they told me to stop using the megaphone I was
00:18:21.900 quoting some scripture and I obviously refused and they just grabbed me and arrested me for
00:18:30.320 originally for disruption they said I was under arrest for disruption which isn't even a real
00:18:34.780 charge but uh then they they said disruption and that's not even a real thing that's what I was
00:18:41.400 quoting the scripture on megaphone there right and they told me to stop using the megaphone
00:18:45.520 because it was disruptive and uh like I was at a protest that I had already communicated with
00:18:49.900 liaison so I wasn't going to stop um I get once again it was a classic example of them trying to
00:18:55.620 censor my religious beliefs so i uh just kept going and they grabbed me pinned me up against
00:19:01.300 the cruiser cuffed me and then uh they put me in the back of the cop car for almost two hours
00:19:06.720 and then drove me off into another part of the city and just left me there um wow yeah so they
00:19:12.920 didn't they didn't do uh they didn't contact anyone i'm a minor right they just took they
00:19:17.380 also in that video there you can see them take my camera equipment i never got that back that was
00:19:21.240 like $600 and really yeah yeah you can see it right here I'm taking that off yeah is it like
00:19:29.180 a GoPro yeah GoPro and chest rig and all that so and you haven't got it back nope that's crazy man
00:19:38.560 that's crazy so I mean I already I already sort of asked this question before in the context of
00:19:44.520 like you know what do you think is going on with schools here but you know it the difference if I
00:19:49.620 can if i'm not mistaken is now you are getting the actual you know state apparatus of the law
00:19:56.520 you're getting police officers picking on you specifically just for being a catholic for being
00:20:02.620 a christian for kind of having really basic uh christian beliefs um you know what's what's it
00:20:10.520 feel like to see that these people who are supposed to protect and serve you and uphold
00:20:14.800 democracy and freedom of speech are basically saying like nope not for you um you know not
00:20:20.320 not for you uh young man you know that's that's not allowed here yeah well the the authorities
00:20:26.540 there they obviously see uh myself and the other young men that are with me as a threat um really
00:20:33.920 all we do is express our beliefs in a public manner and they we've uh we've been targeted
00:20:39.580 for quite a long time now um so i got arrested there i got arrested in school my brother got
00:20:45.560 arrested in ottawa and then a week before that he he got arrested my other guy monty walker also
00:20:51.660 got arrested it sounds really bad but at the same time when you actually look at each individual
00:20:56.440 arrest they'd arrest us charges and then drop the charges and move on because they know there's
00:21:00.000 nothing against us there is a game of intimidation yeah and uh they're trying to keep the young
00:21:04.960 people away from it and they know we're partially influential and they don't want us to have a
00:21:09.780 platform so they're trying to scare us out of it early and uh it's not going to work yeah yeah it
00:21:16.360 isn't going to work if anything it only sort of i would imagine it kind of emboldens you uh because
00:21:21.680 if you're coming from the same kind of christian perspective that i've now come from it's like
00:21:25.400 these people are evil like they're doing the bidding of evil people and by you know picking
00:21:30.440 on me more picking on you more there it's kind of proving your point it's proving your whole
00:21:34.460 worldview to be correct am i am i right yeah absolutely i mean the uh the police have uh
00:21:42.680 they've targeted us for quite a long time and uh they they know that we aren't a threat they know
00:21:48.860 we aren't a problem um like you there you may have seen it there was some uh footage that went
00:21:53.680 fairly viral from the freedom convoy anniversary um i believe it was 31st or whatever and uh yeah
00:22:01.620 right there that's uh my right hand man there monty walker being arrested they're getting quite
00:22:07.920 physical with him too i couldn't believe this like they're shouting at him yeah they're shouting at
00:22:12.520 him to stop resisting now he's in cowboy boots on ice and they're pushing him down the hill
00:22:17.260 um and then they throw him into the gate and arrest him but uh it's honestly it's such a
00:22:23.600 disgusting it's such a disgusting uh sight you know it's a young man with a canadian flag on
00:22:30.100 parliament hill being like shoved out by these i don't even know how these people live with
00:22:36.700 themselves the i mean i've i to be fair i've met some people who are like part of the you know
00:22:41.840 parliamentary security or whatever and like some of them seem like all right people but like when
00:22:46.140 you see something like this it's like what are you what are you guys what are you guys doing
00:22:49.340 exactly um and i suppose the technicality was oh you have a a flag that's not
00:22:56.940 to standard or the flagpole's too big or something what was it again what was the
00:23:02.180 yeah they said they said the uh the flagpole didn't meet the hill regulations even if it
00:23:07.940 didn't that would be ridiculous but the flag did meet the regulations we even pulled out a tape
00:23:12.240 measurer we showed them that it fits and they still didn't want us on the hill and now that's
00:23:17.060 obviously not because the flagpole was a threat or because monty was a threat it's because they're
00:23:21.100 afraid of what we have to say and what we have to express and uh the our conversation with the
00:23:26.800 uh pps there was quite polite and uh leading up to the arrest there was there was absolutely no
00:23:33.800 um misbehavior from anybody uh they just grabbed uh they it started by the i'm grabbing my brother
00:23:41.520 out of nowhere and then when he kind of jolted as anybody would naturally do when they're grabbed
00:23:46.380 from behind they then uh arrested him for obstruction and then they took they told
00:23:51.840 monty if he didn't leave he would be arrested and he said i'm not leaving and they arrested him
00:23:55.440 do you think it has something to do with the red hats do you think it has something to do
00:24:00.660 with the fact that you guys are young like why why are they targeting you targeting you do you
00:24:04.520 think in this situation yeah it's it's it's both um we've obviously been active for two years now
00:24:12.560 with uh no sign of stopping and that's a that is a threat to the narrative when they see young
00:24:17.620 people who are partially influential um refusing to back down and uh that scares them so they want
00:24:24.540 to get rid of us as fast as possible but uh we're not going anywhere absolutely and i mean i want
00:24:31.160 to bring this up real quickly it's it's just becoming abundantly clear like how absurd this
00:24:35.900 is to people uh you know allowed to teach the class not allowed to attend the class um and
00:24:42.300 like i'm sure you've seen many many different memes like this and it really is so obviously
00:24:49.140 on its face unacceptable so i wanted to ask about these red hats specifically save canada
00:24:55.020 and uh there's a link in the description to your website and it's also in the corner there
00:24:59.480 save canada.army so so tell me about uh tell me about this group yeah so that is um kind of the
00:25:07.380 the rallying point me and my buddies have been working under and it's been expanding fairly
00:25:13.620 quickly um i had touched on earlier briefly we uh we organized walkouts in the schools during
00:25:20.740 the freedom convoy against the uh covid restrictions and all that and uh we've just
00:25:26.540 been using it to um using that platform to push out all of our uh our plans and our initiatives
00:25:33.320 and uh it's it's hopefully a gives young people a chance to get on board and express their beliefs
00:25:39.900 and stand up for what's right.
00:25:43.120 Absolutely.
00:25:44.120 Again, the link is in the description down below.
00:25:47.380 That's SaveCanada.army.
00:25:49.520 It certainly gets me excited to see especially young people getting involved
00:25:53.760 and not being afraid of, I mean, cancel culture, I guess.
00:25:59.700 I don't know really what else to call it.
00:26:03.840 When it comes to this kind of battle that we're in against evil,
00:26:07.660 How important do you think Christianity and Jesus Christ is in, you know, the fight to save Canada?
00:26:14.220 Yeah, it's probably the most important thing.
00:26:18.040 It's what gives me the strength to do what I do.
00:26:21.880 I wouldn't be here if I didn't know I had a God behind me and I wasn't doing the right thing.
00:26:27.380 But I think a lot of people are rejecting the truth of the gospel.
00:26:35.780 and they they don't quite realize uh that the entire narrative that's being pushed is a satanic
00:26:42.960 narrative um nobody's understanding that evil is evil and right is right um there's there's an
00:26:50.160 opposite to everything so if there's evil there must be a greater good and uh i'm proud to call
00:26:55.680 my savior well said well said and i think that uh you know i was actually interviewing arthur
00:27:01.900 Pastor Archer Pawlowski last week
00:27:04.280 you've heard of this
00:27:05.560 this man before right I'm guessing
00:27:07.960 yeah absolutely he actually had a very
00:27:10.100 similar answer to you which is
00:27:12.160 you know why do you think Jesus Christ
00:27:14.260 is important in the spiritual battle and he
00:27:16.120 said well I wouldn't be here if it weren't
00:27:18.100 for Jesus Christ I would be terrified
00:27:19.600 and I really like that answer but yeah for
00:27:22.100 me personally I totally agree with you like
00:27:24.020 you know I wouldn't even call myself a Christian a few
00:27:25.980 years ago but when I saw
00:27:27.780 the degree and the obviousness
00:27:30.480 of the evil uh kind of in our faces everywhere uh whether it's the lying and and the deceiving
00:27:37.220 and the destruction of trust the destruction of the family the destruction of community
00:27:42.420 and how um obvious that all became well it really looking at it through the lens of good versus evil
00:27:49.560 really was the only thing that started to make sense for me right yeah but um i mean moving
00:27:55.660 forward uh you know i i actually i saw a tweet on twitter and uh this is like a super atheist
00:28:04.580 cringe atheist like science bro take but essentially uh they were they responded in
00:28:11.760 to a tweet about you and i thought it'd be interesting to kind of ask you about this
00:28:16.560 it was something like oh maybe you should ask him about uh you know why stoning women is okay
00:28:22.900 or maybe you should ask him about like you know insert something very specific in the bible that's
00:28:28.500 like supposed to be absurd right it's like saying oh oh oh because the bible said this you know
00:28:34.400 everything let's just throw it out right like the whole bible sucks because of some very very
00:28:39.280 specific verse having to do with stoning women um have you ever had this happen in a debate class
00:28:45.200 and like how do you respond to somebody who has that take of like oh well you know christians
00:28:50.760 thinks uh gays are bad therefore we should listen to nothing that they have to say what would you
00:28:55.760 say to somebody like this well i mean yeah people use that kind of completely uneducated uh form of
00:29:02.660 argument all the time and it's like if you look at the bible and you see a verse like that look
00:29:08.860 three years above it and i'll read down and you'll find the answer um like everybody takes everything
00:29:14.880 out of context and it gets pretty ridiculous but uh on the topic of the uh homosexuality and all
00:29:21.620 that i know it is wrong i know it is a sin but i also believe a lot of things are sins and i don't
00:29:26.720 go after the individual sinner um i hate the sin but not the sinner uh i was even that when i got
00:29:33.380 arrested there on wednesday i was given the gospel and i i said i'm not here with a message of hate
00:29:37.200 i'm here with a message of love this is sin but you can repent i'm a sinner too i've done lots of
00:29:41.860 wrong as well but uh all you have to do is turn to god and repent um so yeah i don't i don't hate
00:29:50.200 the sinner i just hate the sin and i will continue to stand against it absolutely and you know while
00:29:56.180 we're on the topic of christianity uh i was chatting with dr provlowski last week and he
00:30:00.800 talked about how when he was in jail um he was able to talk to you know criminals bank robbers
00:30:07.400 murderers people who were in there for violent crimes and they actually started a bible study
00:30:11.420 and he was able to like use the gospel to reach these kind of forgotten people in jail and really
00:30:16.400 kind of give hope in their lives but um you know i know you're not a pastor like arthur bavlowski
00:30:21.380 not not as old not as experienced but have you seen any experiences like that of of the gospel
00:30:26.640 working in your life i know you're a younger person but uh does anything come to mind yeah
00:30:32.300 this entire situation has given me a platform to more openly uh share the gospel and i have seen
00:30:38.420 the fruit of that um one uh interesting situation was back in peterborough at the public library
00:30:44.280 there after the parents who had brought their kids to this drag story time uh were walking out i know
00:30:49.800 some of the guys i've been working with liberty coalition of canada had a chance to talk to one
00:30:54.240 of the parents and explain why what they were doing was wrong um not in an aggressive manner
00:30:58.640 but in a explanatory manner and uh the parent actually repented and they they didn't they
00:31:07.240 thought they were just um teaching their kids about acceptance and all this and they didn't
00:31:11.040 realize how wrong and confused the entire situation is but uh yeah it's it's interesting
00:31:17.980 to see how all that works definitely definitely um so uh you know you're a catholic student you're
00:31:26.560 a Catholic high school student getting arrested for voicing Catholic views.
00:31:30.380 I mentioned Archer Pawlowski getting thrown in jail for no good reason.
00:31:34.920 He's somebody who's fed the homeless.
00:31:36.400 Like his story is even more wild.
00:31:39.440 And it's all just completely unacceptable.
00:31:41.500 It's all completely absurd.
00:31:42.540 We have police officers, you know, picking on you for just kind of being like,
00:31:46.260 hey, I believe in the gospel.
00:31:47.680 I'm a Canadian, save Canada.
00:31:50.600 And the question, of course, is where are conservative politicians standing up for you?
00:31:54.340 Who is anybody with any amount of authority who aligns with your values?
00:31:59.900 Who is standing up for you?
00:32:01.400 And, I mean, let's start there.
00:32:03.220 Has any conservative politician, any politician at all, come to your aid to stand up for you and kind of try to say, look at what's happening to you and saying this is unacceptable?
00:32:16.280 Yeah, I found support from the People's Party of Canada and the Ontario Party, but nothing from your mainstream parties.
00:32:25.880 It's pretty disappointing to see how little response there has been from that.
00:32:31.440 They all know.
00:32:32.580 It's not a secret what happened on Parliament Hill or what happened in Ottawa or what happened at my school.
00:32:38.700 They've been contacted.
00:32:40.180 They know.
00:32:40.680 They haven't made any response.
00:32:42.360 um yeah so i'd say conservative party is only conservative in name they're again they're
00:32:48.360 hiding behind funding and they're whipped and uh it's pretty ridiculous that that's what the
00:32:54.520 conservative party has come to yeah absolutely so you know while we're on the topic shout outs to
00:33:00.540 maxine bernier and the ppc and shout outs to i guess that's derek sloan for the ontario party
00:33:04.880 is that right yeah yeah yeah so at least with at least there's a couple uh of of canadian men out
00:33:10.940 there who are willing to you know stand up for you um have you been following politics long and
00:33:17.440 you know while we're on the topic of the conservative party you know there's a lot
00:33:21.160 there's a lot to criticize there's a lot to get upset about um aside from not standing up for you
00:33:26.300 in the end this kind of absurd situation is there anything else that really irritates you
00:33:30.600 about uh the fakeness of this conservative party that maybe has affected your life or
00:33:35.160 really irritated. Maybe for example, like the, your, your female classmate who was complaining
00:33:40.800 about, uh, you know, the, the washroom situation with transgender students. Yeah. I, I never really
00:33:47.280 followed politics, um, until I was about 14 and, uh, that's when it was starting to affect my life
00:33:53.680 the most. And, uh, so I, I followed it closely and yeah, it was a weird as a 14 year old to
00:34:01.540 realize how corrupt those who are running our countries and claiming to be there to defend us
00:34:06.340 are um yeah the conservative party is a joke most politicians are a joke in general um it's
00:34:15.780 obviously not just with my situation you look at all the covet regulations they threw all their
00:34:20.480 beliefs out the window and uh they exchanged it for money and power and uh can't say i'm surprised
00:34:27.020 anymore. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, it's, it really is kind of getting sickening, right? Like it's
00:34:32.740 becoming almost like normal to be disappointed by these, by these suits. All right. I think
00:34:40.380 we're going to wrap it up here shortly, but, but let's, let's bring up this petition again. Tell
00:34:44.500 me about like this ongoing kind of battle that, that you're, you're doing with your lawyers here
00:34:50.500 and how we can help. Of course. The, the main thing everybody can do right now to support
00:34:55.080 myself and my case is
00:34:57.260 to sign that petition at
00:34:58.960 libertycoalitioncanada.com
00:35:00.580 I have some plans I have yet
00:35:03.280 to release but
00:35:04.260 we're going to try to get both the United States
00:35:07.460 and Canada involved in
00:35:09.080 gaining a
00:35:11.300 platform for students to express
00:35:13.320 their beliefs
00:35:13.960 that hopefully that petition
00:35:17.480 will end up coming in quite handy
00:35:19.320 but we're getting a head start on it
00:35:20.980 and there should also be a link to donate
00:35:23.220 there i know my school's hired quite a uh a large um legal team and uh it's gonna get expensive
00:35:31.920 quick so do whatever you can to help out absolutely absolutely um i mean there's there's lots we could
00:35:40.140 uh potentially keep talking about like maybe we could we could circle back to to the drag queen
00:35:44.540 story hour because that's a topic that a lot of people uh like like to kind of bicker over um
00:35:51.520 um these these people who protest against you you know who are in their rainbow flags and
00:35:56.620 everything do you think i wasn't there i've only seen clips here and there do you think many of
00:36:00.740 them um are you know have kids yeah some of them bring their kids with them um uh that's that's
00:36:10.680 often a that's a question i've asked when uh not just to um them but to in during the convoy and
00:36:18.280 the other protests have followed that to the police that were uh infringing on our rights or
00:36:22.920 like literally beating women in the street i'd ask them i said i'd say i'd approach them on a
00:36:28.920 humane personal level and ask them do you have kids are you going to go home tonight and tell
00:36:33.900 your kids what you did are they going to be proud of you um because uh i can sure say i wouldn't be
00:36:40.420 proud of my father if he was beating a woman on the street uh for expressing her beliefs in a
00:36:45.480 country that um claims to uphold the charter of rights and freedoms yeah well said well said um
00:36:54.100 thank you so much for for coming on the stream josh uh we have your twitter as well that's in
00:36:59.580 the description um so make sure you follow a josh on twitter and um what else of course the petition
00:37:07.320 that link for description is down below and also once again going to save canada.army
00:37:14.180 true wealth strong and free uh is there anything else you wanted to add before we go josh
00:37:18.980 uh no i think that's it if you're on the website there and you want to get a hat just
00:37:23.660 go to the store we've got lots in stock amazing amazing uh thanks again for coming on the stream
00:37:30.180 and we're excited to see what happens next i'm certainly going to support you i know these uh
00:37:35.900 these weak cowardly conservatives are not but um you know i'm hoping that you're going to inspire
00:37:42.480 a new generation of Canadian who is ready to stand up for evil
00:37:46.760 and to celebrate what this country is truly about.