Greg Wycliffe - October 02, 2024


Mass Immigration Is Destroying Canada: Indigenous PPC Candidate Speaks Out


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11 minutes

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2,091

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166

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Misogyny

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Hate speech

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Summary

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In this episode, I sit down with PPC candidate, Pamela Wong, to talk about immigration in Canada. We talk about the impact of mass immigration on our country, the need for immigration reform, and why we need to make Canada great again.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 I get called a misogynist, a biggest, all things under the sun.
00:00:04.940 I am Indigenous.
00:00:06.560 It might not look like it on the outside, but I am.
00:00:09.040 And I think people are scared of being labelled now.
00:00:12.580 Everybody's scared of not feeling like they belong because of their opinion.
00:00:16.180 And I think that's part of the reason why everything is being sheltered,
00:00:21.300 being blocked, being sugar-coated, and it's not okay.
00:00:26.420 There's a lot more to the story.
00:00:27.740 So I'm here with Pamela, and you are a PPC candidate.
00:00:31.500 I am.
00:00:32.300 And I believe you said you had your green card as well?
00:00:35.300 Green card.
00:00:36.160 I have my Native status card, my Indian status card in Canada.
00:00:40.020 Between the programs of international students and foreign workers
00:00:43.900 and the refugee program and, like, illegal immigrants,
00:00:47.500 some people are going as far as saying we need to deport some of these people.
00:00:51.240 Mm-hmm.
00:00:52.000 Yep.
00:00:52.620 And that is correct.
00:00:54.040 It's the only way to put our economy back on track in any realistic timeline
00:01:01.560 that's going to keep more Canadians off the streets. 1.00
00:01:03.920 Right now we're literally opening our doors to kick our own citizens out
00:01:08.720 into the parks, into encampments.
00:01:10.620 And we have families, just outside of my riding, but we have families hiding in the forests
00:01:17.320 because they're scared their kids are going to get removed from them
00:01:19.740 because they can no longer provide for their children.
00:01:23.180 Like, yeah.
00:01:24.480 I mean, the housing crisis, it's maybe not necessarily a housing crisis.
00:01:28.340 There's a lot of empty units, but it's because people can't afford anything anymore.
00:01:32.880 And that almighty dollar has made people greedy.
00:01:37.020 And here we are.
00:01:37.860 Everybody's taking a benefit to hire a foreign worker. 1.00
00:01:41.140 Everybody's taking a benefit to educate a foreign student.
00:01:45.480 But what about everybody here that needs jobs and needs education?
00:01:49.900 So, yeah, I mean, there's only so much space.
00:01:53.620 Mm-hmm.
00:01:54.240 Yeah, deportation is it.
00:01:55.640 And I'm, I, there's no other fix to this.
00:01:58.280 And I, I hate the thought of that because I'm a person, I'm an empath.
00:02:03.120 I want to help everybody.
00:02:04.060 I want to open my arms up.
00:02:05.120 I've got a big heart.
00:02:05.880 I wear my heart on my sleeve.
00:02:06.960 And that has screwed me over more times than not.
00:02:10.440 But the only thing that's going to protect my children's future
00:02:15.620 and my future grandchildren's future is to make Canada great again.
00:02:23.640 And I mean, that means we need our culture back.
00:02:26.600 And that means some of the other cultures need to go 1.00
00:02:28.740 so we can reestablish who we are as Canadians
00:02:30.840 and find our identity again because everybody's lost.
00:02:36.400 Scary.
00:02:37.300 What are your thoughts on all this?
00:02:39.340 These two different trends of mass immigration
00:02:41.180 finally being talked about in the mainstream,
00:02:43.260 but also DEI being pushed just as hard at the same time.
00:02:47.080 I think Canadians as a whole didn't understand the impact
00:02:51.500 that the immigration that they were speaking of
00:02:53.520 was actually going to have on our country.
00:02:55.280 I don't think the gravity was there.
00:02:57.540 And I think it's setting in now
00:02:59.300 because we have so many people that are in,
00:03:02.140 they can't find a job.
00:03:03.640 They're struggling to put food on the table for their families.
00:03:06.460 And I can speak on my own part with a broken foot
00:03:10.020 in the middle of the summer,
00:03:12.160 not the middle of the spring, sorry,
00:03:13.660 going to Service Canada
00:03:14.920 and sitting for hours waiting to be helped
00:03:17.740 for my benefits with my leg.
00:03:19.460 And there were busloads of immigrants coming in
00:03:23.880 that couldn't speak English.
00:03:25.080 And I'm sitting there experiencing this myself
00:03:27.180 and I'm just,
00:03:28.260 they have people coming out of the office,
00:03:29.980 all of a sudden it went from two booths open
00:03:31.400 to eight booths open.
00:03:32.880 They've got somebody speaking in other languages
00:03:34.600 that are telling everybody what to do
00:03:36.160 and they're siphoning them through this system.
00:03:38.260 And I'm sitting there and I'm like,
00:03:40.460 well, I've been sitting here for an hour and a half.
00:03:43.040 How do I get on the bus?
00:03:45.020 So I get helped.
00:03:45.980 And for me, that's not when my eyes opened,
00:03:49.480 but I watched many people in that waiting room's eyes open that day.
00:03:52.460 And I have had many people comment on the waiting lines
00:03:56.600 outside of Service Canada.
00:03:57.880 Like you go by at seven o'clock at night in some areas
00:04:00.560 and they're lined up on the street.
00:04:02.720 The immigrants are sitting, camping out 1.00
00:04:05.160 to get into Service Canada.
00:04:06.400 So people take time off work to deal with
00:04:08.080 regular everyday issues that they need to deal with
00:04:11.140 in our government offices.
00:04:12.480 And now our citizens that are citizens
00:04:16.220 and pay taxes and function here
00:04:18.220 are struggling to get access to those resources
00:04:20.800 because we are now tailoring to people we're bringing in.
00:04:24.600 And I think that that's what is starting.
00:04:26.840 It's when it's hitting people's pockets.
00:04:28.940 It's when they can't get a job
00:04:30.200 and they can't put their kids in extracurriculars
00:04:32.480 because they no longer can afford it.
00:04:34.340 And they can't go to the grocery store
00:04:36.940 and buy whatever it is the kids want for dinner that night
00:04:38.920 because it's just too damn expensive now.
00:04:41.140 And they can't get a job.
00:04:43.520 And like it's just, it's, you walk into a store now
00:04:47.180 and you're lucky to get somebody that can speak
00:04:48.940 one of our two national languages and it's scary.
00:04:52.220 What do you think of Truth and Reconciliation Day?
00:04:55.980 I think it's a long overdue celebration of,
00:05:02.220 and I call it a celebration
00:05:03.340 because it's talking about a lot of Canadian history
00:05:07.340 that has not been spoken about in a very long time.
00:05:11.540 My family gave up their status when I was 18
00:05:15.580 was when I obtained status again
00:05:17.340 because my family's heritage
00:05:19.300 was afraid of being known as Indian.
00:05:21.900 And I think it is important that we celebrate
00:05:26.060 what our ancestors have gone through,
00:05:28.220 what has been sacrificed, what has been done.
00:05:32.700 But I also believe that sometimes there's negative light
00:05:37.660 shed on Truth and Reconciliation Day.
00:05:40.060 Sometimes it is overshadowed by other things.
00:05:42.360 And I think for me, it's a deep dig to my roots,
00:05:48.340 where the country came from, and most importantly,
00:05:51.460 I think that the world needs to understand
00:05:53.260 that people didn't come here and wipe out our ancestors.
00:05:57.400 They didn't wipe out our community.
00:06:00.540 We actually did live and coincide and get along together.
00:06:05.340 And I think that needs to be highlighted more
00:06:07.220 than the conflicts that have gone on
00:06:08.820 is actually what goods came of.
00:06:11.780 How can we move forward?
00:06:13.280 And how can we better the recognition of the day?
00:06:18.720 Can it be more of a celebration instead of a solemn day?
00:06:21.400 Does everything need to have a negative connotation to it?
00:06:24.840 Does it, or can we bring it back to years ago,
00:06:28.300 we had Black History Month?
00:06:29.600 I don't, I'm like, I don't even know
00:06:31.100 if they celebrate that the way they used to in schools.
00:06:33.660 But in February, when I was in school,
00:06:35.340 it wasn't all just about slavery and negativity.
00:06:38.040 It was about culture.
00:06:39.980 And so I think we're on the right path,
00:06:42.860 but should it be longer?
00:06:44.660 Maybe it needs to be a month.
00:06:46.320 Maybe it needs to be something that's more than just a day
00:06:49.220 or overshadowed by other things.
00:06:51.140 But it's a solemn day.
00:06:52.340 And it shouldn't necessarily be a solemn day.
00:06:54.100 It should be a day celebrating the culture
00:06:55.680 and who we are and where our country came from
00:06:58.420 and what it was before people settled here.
00:07:00.940 When it comes to the history,
00:07:03.160 it feels very oversimplified.
00:07:05.660 Like, I feel like there's more to the story.
00:07:07.000 Like you were kind of saying, it only focuses on the negative.
00:07:10.380 Yes.
00:07:11.880 Why do you think that is?
00:07:14.620 I think in society now,
00:07:17.580 the way that we are talking about history,
00:07:20.040 we're trying to rewrite history.
00:07:21.600 We're trying to make history what we want people to think history was.
00:07:25.740 And if you attended today's event, you heard,
00:07:29.700 history is not always what you think it is.
00:07:31.460 There is always the deep, dark, what's gone on actually,
00:07:33.900 what actually happened.
00:07:35.400 There's three sides to every story.
00:07:37.960 There's A and B, but there is what happened in the middle
00:07:40.500 and what the actual truth is.
00:07:42.060 And I think not a lot of that is being spoken of.
00:07:45.120 A lot of hate crimes started happening
00:07:46.920 when we started talking about what happened.
00:07:48.600 And we saw churches getting burnt down.
00:07:51.820 We saw people being discriminated against.
00:07:55.860 We saw people getting very angry.
00:07:58.660 Emotions were very high.
00:07:59.900 And I think that if the people in power keep people in turmoil,
00:08:05.300 it keeps everything negative.
00:08:06.900 And I think that's part of the reason we don't have access to the information
00:08:09.920 that we should have access to anymore.
00:08:11.560 Why it's not okay for us to have free speech right now
00:08:16.120 and to be able to talk without being worried about being...
00:08:20.840 I get called a misogynist, a biggest, all things under the sun.
00:08:26.380 I am Indigenous.
00:08:28.060 It might not look like it on the outside, but I am.
00:08:30.600 And I think people are scared of being labelled now.
00:08:34.100 Everybody's scared of not feeling like they belong because of their opinion.
00:08:37.520 And I think that's part of the reason why everything is being sheltered,
00:08:44.120 being blocked, being sugar-coated.
00:08:48.740 And it's not diversity, it's division, right?
00:08:52.320 So how can we divide people, make them highlight their differences,
00:08:56.580 make people highlight what's been negative about their cultures
00:08:59.980 or their upbringings or their social circles?
00:09:02.680 And how can we make them not want to get along?
00:09:08.560 How can we...
00:09:09.280 Like, again, I think the world needs to know
00:09:11.520 that people didn't settle here and everybody killed everybody 0.98
00:09:13.960 because that's not how it went down.
00:09:16.140 That's not what we're like.
00:09:17.620 That's not humanity.
00:09:19.620 I think of the burning churches.
00:09:22.320 I think of statues of Sir John A. Macdonald being torn down.
00:09:26.060 And I have my own opinion, and that's, I really feel like this day
00:09:30.300 is almost about justifying the resentment and hatred of, like, our European history.
00:09:37.600 I would have to say I would probably agree with you
00:09:41.480 because it has that negative connotation to it.
00:09:43.680 Because we're talking about only the bad things that happened,
00:09:46.500 and now it's almost like a condescending joke of every time you go in anywhere,
00:09:53.280 a treaty is written, read, or there's an acknowledgement read.
00:09:57.240 You have a Maxis4Me pin on, so you're a PPC supporter.
00:10:02.160 Yeah!
00:10:03.100 Tell me about that.
00:10:04.140 How long have you supported a PPC?
00:10:05.500 I've...
00:10:06.380 In the 2021 election, just coming up to it,
00:10:09.820 I read every platform for every party.
00:10:12.340 I was a diehard Conservative.
00:10:13.340 I couldn't get on board with the policies and the platform
00:10:16.900 that the Conservatives were running with,
00:10:18.800 and that was heartbreaking for me.
00:10:20.500 So I sat down, like a level-headed Canadian, I thought,
00:10:24.040 and I read every single party platform,
00:10:26.160 and the only one I could resonate with,
00:10:27.980 the only one that settled with my morals and values,
00:10:30.600 and what I stand for as a person, was the People's Party.
00:10:33.680 So I reached out to the headquarters
00:10:35.940 and asked if they needed a candidate in my area
00:10:38.200 because I was worried we didn't have representation.
00:10:40.880 At which point I stepped in with our old candidate,
00:10:43.060 and I worked as his volunteer coordinator
00:10:45.360 and campaigned through the last election,
00:10:47.520 and I have been relatively diehard since.
00:10:49.880 I mean, I've had people tell me that,
00:10:51.220 no, you're involved with extremist groups,
00:10:53.560 and I'm like, hang on, you've known me for how many years?
00:10:55.400 Am I an extremist?
00:10:56.400 Like, no, this is the party that when I read every platform
00:10:59.480 and I looked at what my morals and values are as a person
00:11:02.160 and where I want to have my say,
00:11:03.780 it was the only party I could actually vote for consciously,
00:11:06.120 and if that's why people aren't voting
00:11:07.540 is because they can't find a party
00:11:08.780 that they can vote for consciously,
00:11:10.180 they need to read the platforms.
00:11:13.660 And, like, the People's Party platform needs to be read.
00:11:17.000 Don't be afraid to speak about what you believe.
00:11:21.520 Don't be afraid to start a conversation.
00:11:24.320 Do you know that the PPC is the only party
00:11:26.520 that is fighting for peace and prosperity
00:11:29.180 here in Canada and across the world?
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