Maxime Bernier is a former Conservative Party Member of Parliament who left the Conservative Party and founded the People s Party of Canada, which is the fastest-growing political party in Canadian history. In this episode, Maxime talks about why he left the party and why he decided to start his own party.
00:10:49.340The World Economic Forum is a kind of a think tank, a socialist think tank.
00:10:54.580And they want to impose their socialist point of view on different governments around the globe.
00:11:01.220And as you know, the People's Party, we have four principles, individual freedom, personal responsibility, fairness and respect.
00:11:10.780And we want more freedom for Canadians.
00:11:14.540And we don't want the state to tell us what to do.
00:11:18.540And as a country, we believe putting our country first and Canadian first, that means that, you know,
00:11:26.480we don't want to have any other think tank or international organization that will tell us what to do.
00:11:34.100Our policies, public policies, will be for Canadians and done here in Canada.
00:11:41.980So I'm against the logic and the philosophy of the World Economic Forum.
00:11:46.980But not only that, also about the UN, you know, we're the only party who will withdraw from the Paris Accord.
00:11:54.860We will withdraw from the Migration Compact.
00:11:57.960We will support the UN only, only when they will do something that is in line with our philosophy and our values as Canadians.
00:12:07.420So what I'm telling you, we can save a lot of money because we won't participate in the majority of the PEP projects by the UN.
00:12:15.840But if you ask that question to Polyev and the Conservatives, they will still participate in the Paris Accord and the UN Compact on Migration.
00:12:27.560So about immigration, we are the only party, like you said before, that is against mass immigration.
00:13:03.000It's very weird how the liberals will only talk about it as if it's a good thing.
00:13:08.560The Conservatives will only talk about it as if it's a good thing.
00:13:11.020But I did want to go back to that really quick because, you know, Pierre Polyev, he's doing the same thing Trudeau does, it seems, which is like speaking out both sides of his mouth.
00:13:23.860He's saying, hey, we have nothing to do with the World Economic Forum.
00:13:28.540Sustainable development goals, I've never heard of this.
00:13:31.240And then he's like, we're going to have a zero carbon future.
00:13:34.580And he's, you know, in lockstep with these kind of globalist policies.
00:13:40.600And it's very, very disturbing to see that from Polyev.
00:13:44.120But, you know, how is he getting away with this?
00:13:45.980How is Polyev getting away with speaking out both sides of his mouth?
00:13:51.680Yeah, actually, you're right about that.
00:13:54.740And that was pretty clear when he was running for the leadership of the Conservative Party of Canada.
00:14:02.660At that time, he was speaking a little bit like me.
00:14:06.180And, you know, he was a real conservative.
00:14:09.640But Pierre Polyev is more intelligent than O'Toole and Scheer.
00:14:13.280So he understood that to be the leader of the Conservative Party of Canada, you need at least to speak like a conservative.
00:14:27.160But after that, you know, a month after that, he switched to the left because we are living in a socialist era in Canada and in Western world right now.
00:14:38.480So to have the majority, that's only their goal, to please people.
00:14:46.300For them, they think that you need to speak like the liberals.
00:14:49.900So O'Toole did that a couple of weeks after his leadership.
00:14:54.020But Polyev is doing that slowly but surely.
00:14:56.620So he will have a platform that will please the big liberal cities across the country to have their support because the only way to be elected for Polyev is to have more seats in the GTA and more seats around Vancouver.
00:15:11.620So now his goal, because he is the leader of the Conservative Party of Canada, his goal is to be the prime minister.
00:15:19.340And to do that, he will do some compromise.
00:15:21.400And yes, he was, first of all, he is not speaking like he was speaking during his leadership.
00:15:29.260And you will see the new Pierre Polyev in a couple of months.
00:15:33.680And that will be a Polyev that it's like Justin Trudeau on immigration, on not balancing the budget.
00:15:43.460You know, it's important to say that because if you are a conservative, usually you want to balance the budget and being fiscally responsible.
00:16:11.260He said, you know, for each new spending, I will cut one spending.
00:16:17.740So what he wants to do, he wants to, you know, spend in conservative pet projects instead of in liberals pet projects with that big fat government.
00:16:28.760And because he is in the business to buy votes.
00:16:33.780That is his job to buy votes with money that he does not have.
00:16:39.440And that's why, you know, he likes these deficits.
00:16:42.180And actually, the impact of these deficits right now, we are, in 2015, the cost for our debt was $25 billion a year that we are throwing away just to pay the interest of our debt.
00:17:00.760It's about the budget of the national defense.
00:17:04.500Now, today, and at that time, Trudeau and Polyev were saying it's okay, we can have that deficit because the interest rates are very low.
00:17:12.900But now the interest rates are raising, and the cost of that deficit, and they added more deficit, and now the cost of that debt is $44 billion a year.
00:17:28.680So imagine what we can do with $44 billion a year.
00:17:33.080Now we have to throw that away only to pay the interest on our debt.
00:17:37.560But what you can do with $44 billion, I'll tell you, you can actually give the health care transfer to provinces.
00:17:49.640That's the deal that Trudeau had, $42 billion a year.
00:17:53.800That's the deal that he had with provinces.
00:17:55.780So, you know, and also you can with $44 billion, that's the TPA, the GST, sorry, that's the GST.
00:18:07.260The income at the federal level coming from the GST every year, it's $42 billion.
00:18:13.700So we can erase the GST tomorrow and use that money for our spending, to spend in our programs.
00:18:25.300So it's a huge, it's a huge cost, and that cost will go up, you know, in four years, it will be at $50 billion.
00:18:35.600That's money that we are throwing through the windows without any benefit for Canadians.
00:18:44.180So that's, and we are the only party that will balance the budget, and we can do that in one year.
00:18:50.460We can, I said the deficit, it's $44 billion.
00:22:14.900And Poliev likes to speak about freedom.
00:22:18.480But the real freedom will come when you'll have a smarter government in Ottawa that won't interfere in your day-to-day life and will give you back your own money in your own pockets.
00:22:27.740And that's why we need to balance the budget.
00:22:43.500And, well, to do that, we need to get we need to start getting you back in the House of Commons to get near those levers of power.
00:22:50.960And, Max, I'm a little concerned because in my personal opinion from where I'm standing, every time that you focus on talking about the budget, every time that you focus on talking about the economy, I feel like you're giving a lot of people a reason to actually just support Pierre.
00:23:09.400Because Pierre, that's his main thing.
00:23:11.840That's what we always harp on in the show, which is Pierre is like the price of milk, the price of milk.
00:23:16.640Money, money and the cost of things is the only thing that's important.
00:23:22.240And I guess, you know, what I want to encourage you to do is why not focus?
00:23:26.940Why doesn't the PPC focus more on impactful social and cultural issues?
00:23:31.480Because this is where the PPC can really differentiate itself from from Pierre.
00:23:38.920Yeah, I understand your point of view.
00:23:40.800You know, we can walk and chew gum at the same time.
00:23:44.140And so what I'm telling you is Paul Yev, you know, he he won't he won't be able to when he'll be in government because he's looking at polling and focus group and he will want he will need a vote in Ontario and Vancouver to win.
00:24:02.880So what I'm telling you is is taking for granted your vote, the vote of the real conservative and he will go to the left by going to the left.
00:24:12.940So that's why if you vote for us and and you have PPC candidates elected, we will support Paul Yev when he'll be a conservative, when he will be honest.
00:24:24.480And we won't support him when he won't be a conservative, you know, we will support him when he'll do what what it is, what what we have in our platform.
00:24:35.080So speaking about that, it's important because I want to be Paul to understand if Paul Yev doesn't have the courage to cut because it may not be popular.
00:24:44.520We will help him to do that because we will support him in the House.
00:24:51.160So that's important for I believe for Canadians.
00:24:54.900We are their insurance policy that Paul Yev will be a conservative if he's a prime minister.
00:25:01.860If not, he will do like Stephen Harper.
00:25:05.180What is the legacy of Stephen Harper after nine years?
00:26:19.160And I really feel like there's more pressing matters, especially to conservatives and things that you do talk about as well.
00:26:27.660You've been talking a lot about, you know, the drag time story hour and how, you know, it's just preying upon children and this sort of thing.
00:26:36.000But it's something that we talked about earlier, but we didn't kind of directly say.
00:26:39.520The trucker convoy was about vaccine mandates.
00:26:42.600And Pierre Paliyev, in his recent press conferences, he couldn't even say the word vaccine mandate.
00:26:50.000It was very, very creepy the way in which he has ignored this.
00:26:53.480He's ignored the, you know, the absolutely devastating consequences of lockdowns by the government.
00:27:03.320And on top of that, he doesn't talk about mass migration.
00:27:06.420And I feel like these are really the things that not only is the cost of living bad, but like there's so many problems that are stacking upon each other.
00:27:20.240And I think that Pierre does not offer any real solutions.
00:27:25.380He kind of offers this kind of fake solution in many of these causes.
00:27:29.640But let's get into the mass migration topic here.
00:27:33.780This is a tweet from you recently this month.
00:27:35.700Canada welcomed more than 1 million newcomers last year, including 437,000 immigrants, 608,000 non-permanent residents, many of whom will still stay permanently.
00:28:11.800But in your opinion, aside from the big numbers of the people coming in, what do you think are the worst consequences of this, of mass migration for the country of Canada?
00:28:36.840If we have another 1 million people this year, we'll have a new Nova Scotia in Canada.
00:28:43.360When you are a population of 38 million people, that is mass immigration.
00:28:49.820And the problem with that, because Paliyev is okay with it, and, you know, and Paliyev, Trudeau, and all these establishment leaders are okay with it.
00:29:01.040But when you have mass immigration like that, one – actually, it's – this last year, we had 465,000 immigrants.
00:29:11.140You add to that the non-permanent resident, and you add to that the foreign students.
00:29:19.300So that's why you have a million – a new – a million people that came to Canada last year.
00:32:59.720Yeah, but I'm not scared about that, because he did that only for a short time to win the leadership, like I said.
00:33:07.620So just wait when he'll have his platform.
00:33:10.140Actually, I was listening to Stephen Harper last week at a conference in Toronto, Strong and Free.
00:33:16.400And he said the role of Paliyev is only to critics Trudeau and not to present any ideas, any platform.
00:33:24.820He said, you know, he will have time to do that during the election.
00:33:28.180So he doesn't want to do it because he will need to do polling and focus group.
00:33:33.520And what is popular in Toronto may not be popular in Cargaret.
00:33:37.000So that's why Paliyev, you know, won't tell us what he wants to do.
00:33:44.260He will do that a couple of weeks before the election.
00:33:47.100And at that time, that will be the reality.
00:33:50.140Canadians will wake up and say, oh, Paliyev and Trudeau, that's about the same about climate change.
00:33:55.300You know, like you said, he wants to have a net zero target before 2050, like the Liberals, but he won't impose a carbon tax, more regulations.
00:34:09.420But we all know that when you impose regulations on businesses, that's a cost.
00:35:07.560Feds warn Ontario they could shut down development near Rouge Park for not too concerned.
00:35:12.560Ontario's plans to build housing near a massive national park could be shut down if a new study shows a negative impact on biodiversity and at risk species, a species of butterfly.
00:35:24.460You know, so they don't want to build.
00:35:26.320They don't they don't want to build new homes because they're worried about they're worried about a species of butterfly.
00:35:32.040What about bringing a million people in a year?
00:35:35.520You know, they say that they're concerned about the environment.
00:35:38.600What about the implications of a million people coming to Canada?
00:35:41.540How is that going to affect the environment?
00:35:43.980How is that going to affect the species of butterfly?
00:35:49.340And what happened also last year with the Roxham Road in Quebec, you know, we had 39,000 illegal migrants who crossed the border in Quebec, who crossed illegally the border in Quebec.
00:36:05.700And, you know, why Trudeau decided to solve that?
00:36:09.900Because in the beginning, it was only a Quebec problem.
00:36:13.340But at least I must admit that the premier of Quebec, Mr. Legault, had a good idea.
00:36:18.760He said, I'm going to put them in a bus and drive them in Ontario, in Niagara Falls.
00:36:28.800And I know that in Niagara Falls, you know, they're concerned because the hotels over there are all with migrants and the season, the tourist seasons will start in a month.
00:36:42.880And there's no hotel rooms available for that.
00:37:22.540And we talk a lot on this show about self-respect, you know, like having respect for yourself as a Canadian.
00:37:31.160And there are more and more examples of newcomers coming to Canada and not having respect for this country and not having respect for these institutions.
00:40:13.320What we want to do is to be sure to have an interview with each new immigrant that will come to our country like we did a couple of years ago.
00:40:22.020So and asking them the question, you know, do you agree with, you know, men and women are equal before the law, that we have a charter of rights and speaking about Canadian values and having a nice discussion with that person.
00:40:51.260And for those who might think, oh, Greg, that's just an isolated incident.
00:40:54.620This is a this is a second example of the exact same thing, which is, I believe, an international student making a video about, hey, I'm saving money.
00:41:03.720I'm saving money on food by robbing a food bank and completely disrespecting the institutions of Canada.
00:41:10.880But when you're doing that, you must think about, you know, people who need that food and that's not you.
00:43:19.720And when it comes to Ukraine, you'll see the infamous photo of Pierre and Justin wearing the exact same costume.
00:43:26.980You know, they both do the same Mr. Dress Up Act and send billions of our money overseas to help to help Canadians somehow.
00:43:37.280But I did want to say, you know, if you didn't know, Ukraine apparently is 60 percent unvaccinated.
00:43:44.520So Pierre or Justin, if you're watching, maybe we should be sending instead of money, sending the vaccines, the excess vaccine, because we know how much you guys love that.
00:43:58.860As you know, we were right two years ago when we said that, you know, I know it's not it's all that was based on discrimination and segregation, not on science, because everybody were able to catch that virus and spread that virus vaccinated or not.
00:45:06.540So essentially, the Brahmin family is a it's one of the castes.
00:45:14.680And essentially, this this these renters from India are being very specific of who they want to rent to.
00:45:20.820They are coming to Canada and discriminating and saying we only want to rent to these type of people.
00:45:27.180So I think it's very funny because especially yourself, you know, you're talking about mass migration, talking about the concerns of how, you know, social cohesion and they call you racist.
00:45:40.540We're actually importing the racism of people who are fundamentally discriminatory from the caste system in India or another good example is Somalia.
00:45:50.520Yeah, where they have this very, very intense clan system.
00:45:53.720That's like a whole hierarchical thing, depending on what clan you're from.
00:45:57.660So I think I think you're right on the money there.
00:46:00.440And I mean, I guess I kind of asked this earlier, but like, what would you say to somebody who, you know, they continue to call you racist?
00:46:09.240Because I know that you got smeared by Warren Kinsella and you went you went to court and said, I am not racist.
00:46:15.860But then the judge just still slammed his gavel and said, well, you're still, you know, sorry, we can't we can't confirm that you're unracist.
00:46:23.340So I want to ask, Max, what are you going to do next time they call you racist?
00:46:28.680But I just want to answer that about the yes, I sue Kinsella about that.
00:46:33.760What the judge said, he said, you know, the most important here is the freedom of speech and Kinsella has the right to to to to say what he said.
00:48:48.160In English Canada in 2019, that was the first time they were not used to that.
00:48:53.020And now I can tell you that it's more common when you have, you know, 50 percent of the Canadians that are saying in a survey that there's, you know, half a million people a year of immigrants.
00:49:08.360You know, you can have that discussion.
00:49:10.180When you have the Global Mail that wrote, I believe, two months ago, a piece on the number of immigrants and they were saying, oh, we are not racist.