Greg Wycliffe - Randy Hillier Charges Dropped!! Exclusive interview

00:00:00.000 stand up and tell people who you are and what you stand for and and take it like a man or a woman

00:00:05.860 like yeah you know have some principles have some conviction and go and tell people what you stand

00:00:11.160 for because i know when we know most politics ladies and gentlemen welcome to the stream i'm

00:00:19.700 greg weichlip that was an interview with randy hillier at the trucker convoy february 2022

00:00:25.480 and since then well he's had some charges come up against him and most recently those charges have

00:00:33.440 been stayed which is a huge huge win for Canadians for freedom fighters and I'm very very happy to

00:00:39.960 have Randy Hillier with me former MPP in Ontario how are you doing Mr. Randy sir I am just fine

00:00:51.340 fine fine these days uh it's been a um quite a relief uh um uh not that i didn't particularly

00:01:00.700 dislike the the judges and and all the people at the ottawa courthouse but there's better people

00:01:05.500 that i in better places to spend my time and i've been spending a little too much time uh

00:01:11.500 over the last 30 months at the ottawa courthouse so uh it's a big relief for jane and i not to be

00:01:19.340 having that huge financial burden, that huge level of stress and uncertainty. The Crown had wanted to

00:01:29.900 put me in prison for three and a half years for being at the Freedom Convoy. But I would like to

00:01:39.100 just also maybe give a big shout out and express my gratitude to all the people who helped make

00:01:48.560 this win possible. All the great numbers of people who prayed for me, sent me thousands of

00:01:59.440 letters of support and encouragement by letters and by email. And of course, people who were very

00:02:06.980 generous in assisting me on the financial side of this. And specifically, you know, I had a number

00:02:15.740 of people who were assisting me and giving me guidance um legal advice um good team of volunteers

00:02:24.380 but i also want to uh for that very last argument that we had on october 3rd the jordan application

00:02:34.460 i hired a lawyer his name is mark hurtle um many people will know that i have been somewhat

00:02:42.480 critical of the legal machine and uh the players in it but uh mark urtle did a bang up job um i

00:02:52.640 don't know if there's anyone who could have argued it argued this case as uh perfectly as as he did

00:03:00.800 and rebut the crown's argument so um a big thank you to mark urtle criminal defense lawyer in

00:03:08.000 ottawa as well for his assistance and uh and for his efforts i got to celebrate with my family

00:03:16.400 jane and our kids uh last weekend it was nice absolutely and and it's you know with all that

00:03:23.680 being said it clearly wasn't just a investment of of time and money it's a huge uh emotional burden

00:03:32.080 to have to go through that and for those who don't know just to kind of add my sort of

00:03:37.880 relevance especially to this conversation after the trucker convoy you got these charges laid

00:03:45.720 against you and there was you got some bail conditions and in those bail conditions it was

00:03:53.300 don't speak to these individuals a list of individuals and I was on the list and yeah

00:04:00.100 i made the list i'm officially on a government list are you proud of me mom but uh yeah i mean

00:04:06.680 it's um i don't know because i was interviewing you down there i'm not sure why i was put on the

00:04:11.740 list that that's like conversation for another day but uh it really was a scary almost you know

00:04:18.900 it was a dark period after the convoy uh at that time there was a silver lining where we were able

00:04:25.560 to reverse some of the mandates and and like that had started to continue but um you know we were

00:04:32.220 seeing patriots get thrown in jail cells you know it was a very scary time and for me it was somewhat

00:04:38.920 heartbreaking to to be like these are people who are proud of our country want to fight for our

00:04:44.080 country and the state of the country are attacking these people uh what was that like for you that

00:04:50.900 kind of period that dark period of recent canadian history in terms of because you know you've been

00:04:56.740 you've been in this country for some time now and uh what kind of what's your experience looking

00:05:01.380 back on on that time period well listen i never thought i would be uh denied entry into the city

00:05:08.660 of my birth um by the courts um in the nation's capital you know i had restrictions that i had to

00:05:18.180 give the ottawa police 48 hours notice prior to me going to ottawa and i would have to explain

00:05:26.660 the purposes in my um what was where i was going and who i was going to meet um um you know i had

00:05:36.100 this long list of prohibitions on who i could meet with who i could speak with many of them

00:05:46.180 unlike you greg uh many of them um i had no idea who they were like i'd never met these people

00:05:53.620 before never had never talked to them well to be fair randy you knew of me as the the pajama man

00:05:59.380 back then well that's right you know but i knew who you are who you but but there was other names

00:06:07.060 on the list that i had no idea who they were and you probably never met you mean i had never met

00:06:12.020 before. And that was a real precarious position for me for the longest period of time of being

00:06:19.780 cautious of going out in public and maybe accidentally meeting one of these people who

00:06:29.120 I didn't know who they were or what they looked like. And somebody snapping a picture and there

00:06:35.460 am breaking my bail conditions inadvertently or accidentally um and uh you know in losing

00:06:43.540 the 35 000 certainty that we had uh posted uh and being back in the crowbar in um so

00:06:55.780 and like this is just a and of course it was a very very dark time for a great many people to see

00:07:04.180 our law enforcement actually taking pleasure in using violence against peaceful Canadians

00:07:15.940 and also seeing so many Canadians applauding the use of violence and extreme violence

00:07:26.580 to break up a peaceful protest but you know all that being said it was you know

00:07:31.780 You know, there has been no more successful display and victory through peaceful, nonviolent civil disobedience in our nation's history.

00:07:50.480 You know, it was during that time we had every province announce that they were repealing the outrageous and harmful mandates.

00:08:00.520 Even Trudeau had to repeal his, announced the repeal on the travel restrictions.

00:08:12.180 And it's, you know, and one other great and I think less seen success of that exhilarating, peaceful, friendly display that went on for three weeks in Ottawa is, you know,

00:08:31.100 it woke many people up in Canada to just how corrupt and abusive and

00:08:39.600 excessive our governments are.

00:08:43.720 And, you know, and I've often said like this, you know,

00:08:46.360 for 15 years in the interior legislature,

00:08:48.520 I ranted and raved and exposed government corruption,

00:08:52.420 both in my own party, the Conservatives, and in the Liberal Party.

00:08:56.540 and most Canadians were you know uninterested in corruption and you could it was very hard to get

00:09:08.300 people mobilized over corruption but you know we saw in February of 2022 from coast to coast

00:09:16.500 many many Canadians rose up and and now they understood that we have a corrupt government

00:09:26.540 Yeah, yeah. And I really think that a lot of seeds were planted during the COVID lockdowns. And especially as you were just saying, at the convoy, the very the mask fell off. And we saw really what this government, what their character truly is. And I say plant seeds, because I don't think we've actually seen the fruits of these seeds yet.

00:09:50.700 I think a lot of them are still actually only just starting to sprout and grow, and I hope that they're going to really turn into something significant in the future.

00:10:00.280 Do you know what I mean by that?

00:10:01.380 Oh, listen, you know, I've been traveling across the province for some time, and there is a great number of really strong and beneficial local initiatives going on.

00:10:15.960 Hundreds of small, very community-oriented freedom groups that meet weekly or bi-weekly, that there are churches and small groups that have created private schools and co-op schools.

00:10:34.660 We've seen a significant increase in congregations in many churches as people realize that faith is a necessary and an important component in this battle and what has happened to us.

00:10:53.600 So I think if people have seen the reformation that's going on in our society that I have seen, there is no need to be doomed or gloomy about the future.

00:11:11.340 It's still a little ways off, but it is growing quickly.

00:11:17.580 And I think, you know, so many people are participating in this reformation of our culture.

00:11:27.440 So I'm quite optimistic.

00:11:30.140 Yeah, absolutely.

00:11:31.460 I feel the same way.

00:11:33.540 I think there's a lot to look forward to.

00:11:35.400 That being said, there is, you know, when you turn on the Twitter, when you look at the news feed here in Canada,

00:11:41.580 especially from a more Canadian perspective, it's easy to feel like the world is just burning and

00:11:48.200 then this country is kind of slipping away from our clutches. And I guess we're going to talk

00:11:53.700 about, of course, Mr. Justin Trudeau and how he's reversed his stance on mass immigration.

00:12:02.140 We'll talk a little bit more about the importance of family in this chat. But

00:12:05.740 let's talk about the the real chaotic stuff which is you know you move a uh a police barrier

00:12:12.280 um and you get charged with uh assaulting a police officer i'm getting that right correct

00:12:20.580 yep i was charged for moving that barricade um a few feet away from people uh i was uh

00:12:29.760 uh alleged to have committed an assault on a peace officer as well as two counts of

00:12:35.900 obstructing peace officers uh with that audacious maneuver of moving a barricade

00:12:43.920 yeah here's the clip right here

00:12:47.720 oh my god the humanity what a monster

00:12:59.740 unbelievable and then uh you know fast forward to several weeks ago and you have people in the

00:13:13.640 street burning canadian flags you have uh i mean you've had the calistani people in calgary streets

00:13:20.440 burning and ripping apart indian flags uh all sorts of crazy displays of you know one one could

00:13:28.740 call it ideologically motivated violence extremism potentially but um i guess you know

00:13:36.520 what is it like comparing how you were treated at the trucker convoy versus kind of these these

00:13:43.560 more recent public displays of uh uh violence of um yeah just just very extreme rhetoric calling

00:13:53.260 calling death to canada and that sort of thing what's uh what's your kind of response to that

00:13:57.820 of i may have a little broader latitude on some of this stuff greg um you know i i am a

00:14:05.260 strong believer i think this is the the only real tool um humanity has to uh to make themselves

00:14:16.380 known uh or in the last resort to make themselves known um before violence is peaceful non-violent

00:14:24.460 civil disobedience so i think we need to give a a real wide berth for that um you know i've

00:14:32.700 the only country i've ever protested against or for is uh is our country i've never protested for

00:14:42.620 another country uh and i've never engaged in violent behavior so some of the things that we

00:14:48.780 have seen like uh this exceptional violence of you know people beating each other with sticks

00:14:55.980 and things uh um the kalistanis and in the hindus i believe down in brampton um you know listen uh

00:15:04.860 there there's no place in a civil society for uh for that and and if you want to go into fight for

00:15:12.620 for a Kalistani nation, then I would certainly encourage for you to go to the Punjab and fight for the Kalistani nation.

00:15:27.060 The same thing with Hamas and Israel. It's fine to go out and peacefully protest and make yourself known.

00:15:42.620 and express yourself, but do it in a peaceful way, in a nonviolent way.

00:15:50.080 And if you want to use violence to promote Israel or to promote Hamas or Gaza or Palestine,

00:16:01.900 then, you know, you should get on a plane and go do it where it will have some benefit and some good.

00:16:10.540 and maybe when you're over there fighting for israel or palestine uh maybe they might want

00:16:17.740 to take a little bit of moment and uh provide some humanitarian aid at the same time and not just

00:16:25.500 so you know i i don't think there's any uh place for violent protests in canada

00:16:35.500 and as we saw during the truckers convoy there was a model um of and and it should also be

00:16:48.200 recognized by these people that that's the effectiveness you know um it was the peacefulness

00:16:56.180 and the friendliness and it was the exhilaration and uh that made it so effective

00:17:02.460 yeah yeah and when you think of the the sheer amount of people that came and went and all that

00:17:11.880 testosterone and disgruntled energy it almost is a miracle that that nothing did happen like it

00:17:18.380 really was sort of like there's not one bad clip there's not one instance of any demonstrator

00:17:25.440 supporting the convoy being violent the only clips you have are ottawa residences or ottawa

00:17:33.200 citizens acting crazy and attacking uh convoy people so and and the police themselves of course

00:17:43.600 of course absolutely um so get on a plane and go fight for the other countries

00:17:52.000 where it's more appropriate to yeah on on that note did you want to quickly comment

00:17:58.480 i guess you already made a great video about this actually uh about you said

00:18:05.020 pierre polyev is dangerous justin trudeau is dangerous these people are warmongering in

00:18:12.580 foreign nations advocating for war in ukraine with justin trudeau and then israel with iran

00:18:19.740 uh with Pierre Polyev um I feel like that's that's a very uh reasonable thing to say like

00:18:29.960 and you know we're supposed to be a peacekeeping nation yet we have Polyev and Trudeau uh advocating

00:18:37.920 for war in foreign nations like very much just kind of like off the cuff like not even

00:18:42.660 you know like it's no big deal to just advocate for for killing people in foreign countries it's

00:18:47.440 wild yeah like this is completely let me i'll explain it this way in my view like canadians

00:18:55.000 have had a very very proud uh history of defending our country right and in military and otherwise

00:19:04.740 we uh are very um have a proud history about that um however um we also have a proud history of

00:19:14.600 helping to create peace between other warring nations that don't pose a threat to us and don't

00:19:25.320 have any strategic significance to us. But here we saw in one week, Justin Trudeau advocating

00:19:36.560 for Ukraine to attack deep inside Russia with NATO-supplied, Canadian-supplied, American-supplied

00:19:48.420 weaponry. And, you know, after Putin had already said, you know, any strikes deep inside Russia

00:19:57.560 with NATO weapons, could we create a need for a nuclear exchange?

00:20:07.120 You know, you don't mess around with a nuclear power.

00:20:10.340 That's pretty simple to understand.

00:20:15.440 um and then a couple days later um uh israel had said that they wanted to attack and bomb

00:20:26.580 iranian nuclear facilities and and here pierre paliev got up on a soapbox and said

00:20:34.000 rah rah rah let's do it let's and it would be a gift to mankind i believe he said

00:20:41.620 gift to the world yeah gift to the humanity something like that yeah yeah and you know like

00:20:48.500 okay um attacking nuclear facilities causes negative consequences

00:20:57.460 and serious ones and you know and we don't have any we don't have any skin in the game uh uh with

00:21:05.380 israel and iran we don't have any skin in the game in ukraine and russia like the russia is

00:21:15.220 not posing a threat to us ukraine is not some huge significant trading partner of ours where our

00:21:23.700 economic prosperities are dependent on ukraine none of these have any significant

00:21:30.660 um uh strategic important to us um and here we are we shed our uh historical view of being a

00:21:41.860 peacekeeper amongst warring nations and becoming a warmongering cheerleader um as well as you know

00:21:52.180 throwing gobs of taxpayers money into these uh uh warmongering uh conflicts so um

00:22:04.020 yeah i i don't like it yeah and my thought too is our military from what i understand is is not

00:22:13.120 super hot right now not super powerful right now so so where do we get off where do our political

00:22:19.020 leaders get off talking big anything when it comes to advocating for war when we we clearly

00:22:25.300 don't have the balls to back that up or the artillery or the sort of military to back any

00:22:30.700 of that up we don't have you know we are a mini mouse in the military world and even more so now

00:22:38.080 that we've shipped over all of our artillery pieces all of our howitzers were sent to ukraine

00:22:44.140 Many of our infantry fighting vehicles and APCs and stuff have been shipped over.

00:22:52.340 I think we even shipped out a bunch of our antiquated Leopard 1As.

00:23:00.300 Now, of course, strategically, we know that we can always hide under the skirts of the USA if there was a military threat to us.

00:23:11.420 But that's not a way an independent nation should conduct themselves,

00:23:17.900 that we have to go looking to Big Brother or find somebody else's skirt

00:23:27.820 to hide under to protect ourselves.

00:23:29.760 That's not the Canada I grew up in, Greg.

00:23:34.460 You know, like I said, we have a very, very proud, colorful, decorated military history of defending ourselves now, as well as, like I said, peacekeeping amongst other warring nations.

00:23:54.080 And now we're on the sidelines, cheerleading death, destruction in others where we can't defend ourselves.

00:24:03.180 Yeah, and you brought up the question, what does this have to do with Canada?

00:24:08.000 What skin do we have in the game in either of these conflicts, which is a perfect segue into foreign interference?

00:24:13.980 Because you'll see our political leaders of political parties saying, hey, it's really important that we, you know, incite more war with Russia.

00:24:24.180 By the way, we're really worried about foreign interference.

00:24:26.980 Hey, we need to go to war with Iran.

00:24:28.940 By the way, we're really worried about foreign interference.

00:24:30.920 it's uh i mean i i see it as a total joke but um maybe i mean what are your thoughts on all this

00:24:39.700 foreign interference talk uh given that there's things like this happening with our political

00:24:45.040 leaders advocating for our nations yeah listen the irony and the contradiction of between our

00:24:54.580 words and our actions with ukraine and iran and israel are pretty stark uh you know here we're

00:25:03.460 saying that china is interfering in our nation uh well we'll we're spending billions of dollars

00:25:11.380 supporting um wars elsewhere well i think you know russia might have a uh a view on that that

00:25:20.180 were interfering and and maybe syria and lebanon and iran might have a view that we're interfering

00:25:27.860 there as well um you know um uh and justifiably so um and then we but you know just from a personal

00:25:39.300 experience you know i was involved in ontario politics for 15 years

00:25:44.420 and you know i would characterize it as this you know both our main political parties have picked

00:25:54.600 up the phone to china and others israel taiwan various countries and they picked up the phone

00:26:05.140 they said come on over and let's cooperate together let's use uh your financial resources

00:26:16.100 and your uh gangs and your state-owned enterprises china uh and become involved in our political

00:26:24.820 parties cut become in in intimately involved in our corporate structures in our political

00:26:31.220 parties and our institutions. And we welcome your money. We welcome your fentanyl. We welcome

00:26:39.460 all your drugs. We welcome your gangster cash to be laundered through our casinos. We welcome

00:26:50.700 You're laundering your money and buying real estate in Toronto and Vancouver.

00:26:58.980 And so there is no interference with China.

00:27:04.500 We have asked, we have welcomed, we have invited Communist China

00:27:11.460 and their state-owned enterprises and their organized criminal elements

00:27:17.580 to be part and parcel of the political landscape in Canada.

00:27:23.420 And we've known this for a long time.

00:27:26.220 You know, I recently did a show on this where back in 1996,

00:27:31.140 the RCMP and CSIS provided a full report called Project Sidewinder

00:27:36.920 that explained all this, how the Chinese organized crime

00:27:44.120 and state-owned enterprises were collaborating with our political parties and bringing in

00:27:52.280 drugs, co-opting the system, making the rules and the regulations at the casinos better

00:28:00.720 for them to launder their money, changing the mortgage and the real estate laws so that

00:28:06.140 they could launder that money into real estate.

00:28:08.960 Hell, you know, it was just a couple of years ago that the integrity commissioner ruled on Justin Trudeau, who had this big fundraiser gig at a known Chinese shady dude in Toronto.

00:28:28.280 And this shady dude gave the Trudeau Foundation $200,000 that night.

00:28:35.100 And he also gave $50,000 to build a statue of Pierre Elliott Trudeau in Montreal.

00:28:44.420 So that's not interference.

00:28:47.640 That's, how do we say that?

00:28:51.340 That's, you rub my back and I'll rub your back.

00:28:55.120 Yeah, it's collaboration.

00:28:56.120 It's teamwork.

00:28:57.080 When it comes to foreign interference, we're in this together with the foreign interests.

00:29:02.660 And all the political parties know this. And that's why, even though CSIS has been ringing the alarm bells on this since 1996, the former director, Fadden, has spoken out publicly in parliamentary committees on this.

00:29:22.460 And but not one of our 338 members of the House of Commons have ever dared ask who are these MPs who are under this way of the Communist Chinese or whatever.

00:29:44.140 they know if we actually lift the covers it's likely that we'll find close to 338 people in bed

00:29:55.340 all the different colors too i'm sure red blue orange oh it was always china and israel like

00:30:05.120 and israel's just as uh just as complicit in this um they do it a little differently but you know

00:30:12.860 So it's, you know, China and Israel especially have been prolific at inviting elected members to go on an all-expense-paid, you know, free junket,

00:30:30.200 to be wined and dined in the best hotels and resorts in Israel and China.

00:30:39.460 and uh it's not you know all it's not a you know no this is just showing how appreciative they are

00:30:49.300 of the good relationships

00:30:53.280 yeah it always helps if you grease the wheels a little bit um yeah no it's a and back to your

00:31:03.160 earlier point um you know following canadian politics for the past several years one of the

00:31:10.160 most uh depressing things one of the most troubling things is how weak and just not effective our

00:31:19.040 class of investigative journalists are like we don't really have the you know the fifth estate

00:31:25.200 we don't really have that uh hard-hitting investigative journalism we have propaganda

00:31:29.200 now and because of that man wouldn't that just make canada because there's not these hard-hitting

00:31:34.840 you know intensive uh investigative journalists in the country wouldn't it just be a perfect

00:31:40.960 wonderland of organized crime with all this stuff going on if there's no sleuths trying to trying to

00:31:47.200 sniff this stuff out and it starts at the top it starts at the people in the parliament buildings

00:31:51.240 and they don't even want to name names so obviously there's a trickle-down effect or

00:31:56.740 you know a laziness trickle down effect where people don't want to look into the crime they

00:32:01.480 just want to profit from the crime and it's absolutely disgusting it's traitorous it's

00:32:06.440 anti-canadian it's uh you know i would potentially use the word treason that word doesn't get used

00:32:12.300 enough i don't think randy so listen you know a lot of people have been focused on the uh

00:32:21.020 How Trudeau used the $600 million slush fund to co-opt the media, the mainstream media.

00:32:29.840 But that's just a drop in the bucket.

00:32:33.980 You look at the revenues of all our mainstream media and through the various agencies of government like Heritage Canada,

00:32:48.360 And we also subsidize, heavily subsidize, most content creators and content for the mainstream media.

00:32:59.860 We also have those wage and subsidies as well.

00:33:06.760 But then for most of our media, we also their largest, largest advertisers or one of their largest advertisers will be governments.

00:33:20.200 So when you look at the total bucket of money that government is putting into the mainstream media, there's hardly a person there who will bite the hand that is feeding them.

00:33:32.840 and you can see what happens when you do like just recently uh david puglisi a long-time

00:33:41.100 investigative journalist with the post and he focuses on the canadian military he's the one

00:33:47.300 who broke the story about the canadian military using um covet as a psyop

00:33:53.960 you know the former foreign minister um chris alexander uh two weeks ago came out and said

00:34:03.900 that david puglisi is a is a russian asset and a russian russian agent for for you know for being

00:34:11.760 an investigative reporter um and i'm not sure what happened to sam cooper but like he was doing a

00:34:17.540 marvelous job with global uh and uh he's gone independent now i don't know if global fired him

00:34:25.060 um but uh i'm sure they they got word that uh that sort of investigative journalism was not

00:34:34.120 welcomed by our our governments i think this oh whoops um i think i found the article you

00:34:41.580 were referring to here just a second um is this the same one yeah david lazy military military

00:34:49.960 leaders saw pandemic as unique opportunity to test propaganda techniques on canadians

00:34:55.580 yeah um huh it was just a test it was just a test though so i guess we shouldn't we shouldn't be

00:35:04.740 when you go through that entire article you can see that it was far more than just a test

00:35:12.020 but you know for for speaking truthfully um he is now uh you know uh in a parliamentary committee

00:35:22.980 uh former uh external affairs minister chris alexander accused him of being a russian agent

00:35:29.700 yeah yeah but look out for the misinformation right randy look out for the misinformation

00:35:38.240 uh there is a lot we want to cover here uh during our chat but um so let's let's move on to the next

00:35:47.300 topic you were you were mentioning how uh the mainstream media is very heavily controlled and

00:35:55.120 funded by or subsidized rather by the Canadian government but there's that trickles into social

00:36:03.420 media as well and ever since your charges got broken we did have a phone call and I was I was

00:36:12.560 talking to you about the phenomena where there's Pierre Polyev supporters or CPC supporters who

00:36:19.500 be saying things like you know name the names name the 338 names name the traitors and like

00:36:27.140 these people support pierre polyev and it's almost like that's pierre polyev's message but

00:36:32.320 in reality these are just kind of these content creators who are trying to make polyev look good

00:36:38.120 even though he would never say the same thing um but you mentioned how like these different parties

00:36:43.700 almost have like a stable of pundits that they kind of just use as kind of megaphones to amplify

00:36:48.740 their message or something yeah there's there's both the stable of pundits and then there's also

00:36:54.180 the stable of content creators uh for each party so if we looked at the content creators we would

00:37:01.460 look at people like jeff ballingall for example with canada proud that's just a proxy appendage

00:37:08.660 of the conservative party uh and they do quite a very uh they do a really good job um he's got

00:37:15.700 canada proud alberta proud saskatchewan proud ontario proud um but that is just a um a front

00:37:24.900 operation um but it's effective at data harvesting and also affect a very effective at social media

00:37:34.820 influencing but then yeah and each party has people like jeff

00:37:40.580 um then there's also the stable of um of talking heads or pundits that each party has in each in

00:37:52.560 each major city um so uh and they're put forth to the mainstream media so if you know ctv or cbc

00:38:03.220 like power and politics or uh what are some of the other names of the um their uh political shows

00:38:11.140 and and also the radio stations uh like john moore and a few others in cfrb in toronto do this

00:38:18.340 they have a stable of conservative pundits uh liberal pundits ndp pundits that they draw from

00:38:28.720 so whenever they want to have an impartial unbiased discussion uh about politics impartial

00:38:36.960 unbiased discussion you wrote the air quotes there but yeah yeah yeah um then they they call

00:38:43.040 up the disable manager and and see which horse is available today uh and there's always a horse

00:38:50.000 available um you know so uh and then you know and yeah each of them get to amplify and emphasize

00:39:00.800 the party's talking points as if it is a uh um just coming from an intelligent reasonable just

00:39:09.120 a totally totally organic conversation yeah just yeah i'm just a regular everyday conservative

00:39:16.960 minded person i haven't been groomed and put here in the stable uh and the thing is if not to get

00:39:24.240 ahead of you here but uh once these horses grow up and they do well enough they graduate and they

00:39:30.980 become conservative members of parliament or they become conservative candidates no typically these

00:39:37.600 guys are far more important than the members of the caucus well i'm talking about specifically

00:39:44.340 a couple of conservative MPs now uh one of them of course from true north would be um yeah yeah

00:39:52.700 so that's the that's the there are those like the Andrew Lawton's and the Melissa Lansman's and

00:39:58.920 and there's a number of uh there are a number of forces that have been uh um put into parliament

00:40:05.120 Jamil Giovanni is the other one he worked for CFRB AM 1010 and now he's a now he's a conservative

00:40:11.800 but but typically these people uh will make far more money uh and be far more influential

00:40:23.400 in the party politics and in influencing the party as the unseen lobbyists the campaign managers

00:40:33.480 the uh fundraising bag men uh all the other accoutrements that go unseen um to joe public

00:40:43.900 but who actually control the party right right oh man and that's uh i mean that stuff is tough

00:40:53.080 because i would i would love for the this sort of part of the conversation to be more popular

00:41:00.680 um but but it really takes you know somebody like a trump to be like you know drain the swamp and

00:41:06.140 kind of like bring attention to the sort of shadowy back room or the smoky back rooms that

00:41:11.460 actually uh pull the strings or pull the levers um that being said based on everything that

00:41:18.200 canadians are now seeing with with the foreign conflict playing out in the streets justin

00:41:25.020 trudeau flip-flopping on immigration even though it was you were the worst type of demon ever

00:41:29.740 to oppose immigration five years ago uh but now it's okay and i guess i guess we'll talk about

00:41:36.220 that talk about that uh now but um what are your thoughts listen the swamp is big and it's

00:41:44.800 very wide and it's very deep um and it's uh and it's full of parasites um and it you know when

00:41:54.400 you look out at the swamp you don't always see all the parasites you have to look closely

00:41:58.560 to find the parasites uh and and but i think you know uh with trump and rfk and and uh the people

00:42:08.020 that he's assembled around you know i don't think there's anybody who knows uh the swamp

00:42:13.340 the machine of the swamp better than rfk and and i think yeah he will be uh much much

00:42:22.700 a hugely important addition to the to trump's administration you know as we saw with trump

00:42:30.620 in 2016 he didn't understand how ugly this swamp was he knew it was there

00:42:38.080 but you know but he was being undermined by the very people that he brought into his cabinet to

00:42:45.460 drain the swamp uh this time around he's got a real sharp cocky who knows where most of the

00:42:54.140 closets and most of the skeletons are um in washington with rfk jr so i think they'll be

00:43:01.240 far more effective and i think it will also have will eventually and not too long uh have a very

00:43:08.920 important tide title change here as well.

00:43:15.340 Yeah, I hope so.

00:43:16.220 I hope so.

00:43:16.720 I want to address sort of a negative comment in the chat because I think it's kind of funny.

00:43:21.360 Lao Tor says, these guys are doing Turto's work bashing the CBC, the CPC, bashing the

00:43:29.060 Conservative Party.

00:43:30.700 Did you want to respond to that?

00:43:32.180 I have a response.

00:43:33.060 But, you know, I think I think I've bashed them equally.

00:43:36.620 You know, so, listen, you're not going to see me as a cheerleader for Justin Trudeau, but you're also not going to see me as a cheerleader for Pierre Polyev.

00:43:48.440 You know, I've known Pierre. I know Pierre much better than I know Justin. But, you know, but there is hardly an ounce of daylight between those two individuals when it comes to policy or behavior.

00:44:07.140 Like, all of them were, both of them were full on with taking away people's freedom of mobility, freedom of expression, freedom of assembly.

00:44:20.880 They were all willing, they were both willing to coerce people into getting experimental shots.

00:44:29.940 um you know there's um and and they're both big on uh uh the climate change hoax they both have

00:44:40.100 signed on to the uh the paris accord they both believe that uh carbon is a pollutant

00:44:48.060 um you know just one wants to put uh a little more tax on than the other one uh for the time

00:44:56.080 but um you know there's i don't see any daylight between those two guys

00:45:01.140 yeah no i uh i totally agree and you know what what is the alternative lao chatter us to not

00:45:09.560 talk about this us to not talk like poke holes in the the very obvious similarities between

00:45:15.480 trudeau and polyev like i it's i just find it so enraging that the whole catchphrase is like

00:45:20.640 we got to get trudeau out and it's like this guy's dressing up like an east indian he's wearing a

00:45:25.660 turban every other day you know he's he supports the paris climate agenda you know he supports

00:45:31.300 mass immigration this is how is this different and i get it i get it you know tax cuts all that but

00:45:37.260 it's it's just kind of like you know people people need to give their head a shake and i think it's

00:45:41.880 really uh i didn't mean to go into this but it's really sort of a people don't want to see how bad

00:45:47.320 things really are in canada and it's very nice to think whoa polyev he's gonna save us and i can

00:45:54.280 just kind of get back on the couch comfortable and uh you know everything's going to be fine

00:45:59.200 and uh the knight in shiny armor pierre polyev to the rescue build the homes yeah yeah yeah

00:46:07.260 you know like everything on the the this horrendous agenda of what we're doing to our

00:46:13.740 children under the disguise of the rainbow flag uh you know they're both uh fully supportive of

00:46:21.620 that uh they both attend these outrageous and reprehensible displays of of moral of public

00:46:30.820 nudity uh they both promote these drag queen storytelling to little uh children in kindergarten

00:46:39.780 And so, no, they're like, they both support significant immigration until recently, you know, Trudeau in the last couple of days said that he's going to not dig the hole as fast on immigration as he was doing previously.

00:47:02.200 But, you know, nobody is talking, neither one of them are talking, you know, we have approximately, you know, and it's hard to put a precise number on this, but it looks like we have about 4 million people in our country that are here illegally.

00:47:21.300 Their visas have expired, their foreign workers visas have expired, their school visas have expired, their refugee claimant status has been rejected.

00:47:40.380 You know, there's a whole, and we have about 4 million people living in Canada that fit that category.

00:47:47.740 not one of them you know neither pierre nor uh justin has said well that's a problem that we

00:47:54.800 should deal with you know and just to do some quick math for everybody at home population of

00:48:02.240 canada is 40 million okay so 10 times uh you said 4 million right so 4 times 10 is the population

00:48:11.560 10 percent of the population are here illegally that's one in ten get a lineup of 10 people in

00:48:19.540 canada and one of them is is illegally here present in the country uh and neither political

00:48:26.640 leader wants to draw attention to this yeah wow so you know um you know this is um you know

00:48:35.660 Any reasonable person would say that makes a mockery of the, you know, very significant and substantive process that people have to go through to come here legally.

00:48:50.300 You know, it is a, it takes a while, takes a long while to, to come here legally.

00:48:58.240 um and um and we you know are making a mockery of our laws when we when we uh well i would say

00:49:07.620 we make a mockery of our laws when they charge me with assault for moving a barricade and and uh

00:49:13.800 and don't lift a finger for you know millions of people that are here illegally yeah absolutely

00:49:19.820 well said well said and you were we were earlier uh talking about the sort of foreign interference

00:49:26.880 or the collaboration done with foreign nations.

00:49:29.740 And what I'm really worried about

00:49:31.060 is that they're actually going to be taking some cues

00:49:33.540 from China in terms of censorship

00:49:36.560 and just kind of do a quick kind of like

00:49:39.220 promotion of the project I'm working on,

00:49:41.860 which is savefreespeech.ca to stop Bill C-63.

00:49:47.160 Bill C-63, I believe, would be the end of free speech in Canada

00:49:50.020 and would make talking about all these things

00:49:52.520 much more difficult

00:49:53.960 because the legislation in C-63 is just so incredibly broad

00:49:59.760 that you could say criticizing immigration,

00:50:03.840 criticizing illegal migrants,

00:50:05.600 that's demonizing an identifiable group.

00:50:08.840 You can go to jail for up to two years for that.

00:50:11.820 It's really opening up our legislation

00:50:13.780 to horrible, horrible nightmares

00:50:16.340 in terms of speech being potentially criminal.

00:50:20.300 But anyway, if you want to learn more about that,

00:50:22.080 You can go to savefreespeech.ca to learn more about it.

00:50:26.140 There's some content there to educate you on the actual bill and how awful it would be.

00:50:30.560 Just click on the Bill C63 page there.

00:50:32.760 And also, if you really want to support us, then you can go to givesengo.com slash savefreespeech where we're making a documentary.

00:50:39.760 And, well, we'd really love to interview you as well, Mr. Randy Hillier, because you are someone who's been targeted, I believe, for your beliefs, for being at the convoy, for being a political figure.

00:50:52.080 And I was actually going to start off the conversation with this, but, you know, these bogus charges got dropped.

00:51:00.000 Do you think it's fair for me to call these bogus charges?

00:51:03.720 I don't know if you're allowed to say things like this, but.

00:51:07.260 So I'm going to be a little.

00:51:13.000 I've got a few things up my sleeve, so I'm going to maybe give it off that one just because there's a couple other things that I might be announcing now.

00:51:21.180 down the road so uh uh you know but i've often referred to him as trumped up uh i've got

00:51:28.800 thousands and thousands of pages of transcripts and additional evidence to review so um i'll hold

00:51:36.560 off on passing final judgment on that until i do a little more uh evaluation on them but but going

00:51:42.800 about the c63 um you know this and and um i'll just throw a little thing in there for you to

00:51:50.680 uh consider like this is this is something that's happening throughout the entire western world

00:51:56.680 um i don't believe um china is the motivating factor behind it even though it looks and acts

00:52:07.920 in is similar in fashion uh uh to the historical limitations on on speech in china um but you know

00:52:19.200 all of europe as they have the digital services act um uh all the uk has come out with even uh

00:52:28.240 earlier in exceptionally crazy online regulations,

00:52:36.080 and they've been putting people in jail already.

00:52:40.420 You know, the United States has been proposing the same thing.

00:52:45.960 So, you know, is China at the root of that evil?

00:52:51.680 I don't think so.

00:52:53.960 And, you know, but like even the name of this bill, Greg, the Online Harms Reduction or Protection Act.

00:53:05.540 Online Harms Act. Yep.

00:53:06.900 Yep. So how can I harm you or anyone online?

00:53:14.860 Uh, the, the only harm that I know that I can do to somebody online would be to, uh, unjustly, unfairly defame them. Now we already have defamation laws. Um, so, so what harm, what other harm could we do to somebody with our words and our speech online?

00:53:44.300 You can hurt my feelings, Randy.

00:53:47.180 Well, so there, you know, this is the important thing.

00:53:52.600 We are bringing out far, far more restrictions on our freedom of expression and our freedom of speech with C63.

00:54:05.780 And, you know, and I'm going to say my view, one of the reasons why the Western world has always held speech and expression in such a high and elevated regard is so that the individual can speak honestly and that they can speak truth to power.

00:54:32.000 It also allows for, obviously, intelligent discussion and evaluation of different perspectives. But the reason why it has been so highly regarded and protected for hundreds of years is so that we can do good in life and not fear retribution from our government for speaking truth to power.

00:54:59.180 And that's really what is at the crux of these measures is to prevent, to allow government to punish those who speak truth to power.

00:55:18.400 well well said well said it made me think of a of an analogy i don't know if it necessarily works

00:55:24.880 but to have such strict speech laws and to have a society that wants to improve it's like telling

00:55:31.060 a toddler to learn how to walk but be like if you mess this up we're going to cut your legs off

00:55:35.220 it's like well i can't i can't be free to fail i can't be free to fall down nope yeah nope you

00:55:41.860 have to perfectly walk or else you you don't get to walk at all you have to perfectly speak or else

00:55:46.840 don't get to speak at all so this historically that was you know and i this is not some revelation

00:55:54.360 i think most people look at the uh if you look at the former ussr and their restrictions on speech

00:56:03.160 it was to prevent people from speaking truthfully about what the state was doing and if they did

00:56:11.800 then well we have a gulag for you uh and and the same with the communist chinese party in china

00:56:18.040 they why do they have these restrictions on free speech well um you know so they don't want any

00:56:26.520 opposition to authority um and you know or else well we've got a you know an organ harvesting

00:56:35.560 detention center over here for you uh you know uh so uh like for me free speech has always been

00:56:45.560 so that we can do good in life not not to do evil we wouldn't protect it protect freedom of speech

00:56:52.520 to do evil but uh to do good and without that high uh threshold of freedom of speech you know

00:57:02.520 we have those safeguards we've had some boundaries on it uh you can't assault you can't defame but

00:57:11.160 they're very um i think modest up until now they've been fairly modest uh guard yeah it really hasn't

00:57:20.200 been uh much of an issue right uh with with the kind of guard rails that we have right now on

00:57:26.520 speech and that's that's why i feel this battle is so important uh because the second you start

00:57:33.280 to give a little bit of leeway and like the definition of hatred starts to kind of open up

00:57:38.120 a bit it's that's especially after seeing how you were treated how other patriots were treated during

00:57:44.140 the trucker convoy especially it's like okay so those in power will certainly abuse the law and

00:57:49.760 use it any way they can to target people they don't like and if that's the case i've seen this

00:57:54.980 i saw this in 2022 anybody else raise your hand if you saw something like that i saw something

00:58:00.200 like that and it's like so we're supposed to believe after that the same government

00:58:04.480 is going to no no don't worry we won't be biased no no don't worry we we won't tack this hate

00:58:11.740 motivated charge onto a mischief charge to throw randy hillier in jail for life which is something

00:58:17.300 that they can now do under bill c63 but uh don't don't get me started on on bill c63 i could talk

00:58:23.820 for hours i want to focus more on you mr hillier is there anything else you wanted to say about

00:58:27.920 free speech or c63 before we move up before we well i you know i think you know we uh we we've

00:58:33.740 been bringing those guardrails a little bit closer in um you know and i think uh um you know what

00:58:40.620 these ideas of hate speech and hate crimes which are just an atrocious uh um thought as well um

00:58:48.540 You know, but, you know, and we've also have this, you know, the evolution of political correctness of, you know, where the self-censorship by people is more extensive than the state censorship of people.

00:59:10.480 And I think that was really, you know, before we called it political correctness, now we're calling it, you know, misinformation, disinformation, you know, and malinformation or whatever.

00:59:26.020 And, uh, like, it's just, uh, completely bizarre that, uh, you know, uh, whatever I say, it can't be misinformation. It can be, it is information. It may be credible information.

00:59:44.280 it may be correct or accurate information it may be uh it may be wrong information

00:59:50.900 um um you know but um um or maybe information that's up for debate uh

01:00:00.020 but it can't there's no such thing as misinformation uh like it's a it's an oxymoron

01:00:07.560 um um you know and same with disinformation what the hell is that like uh um no it's it's

01:00:16.600 information and you know if you're a sound mind you can sift through information and determine

01:00:24.060 how credible it is and whether or not it's important for you to retain it or to reject it

01:00:31.420 yeah yeah absolutely misinformation disinformation these are just globalist buzzwords that's all

01:00:38.680 they really are and uh to kind of uh underline yeah bring the guardrails in closer yeah yeah

01:00:46.660 and uh something that the conservatives help do actually is make a precedent for free speech where

01:00:53.020 if you are wrong about certain facts about history well you could go for you can go to jail for that

01:00:59.360 And I'm talking about, of course, the Holocaust denial laws that are already on the books, which speaking to the point you were just saying, it's like, can I be wrong on a history test?

01:01:08.940 Could I not just be incorrect with with with information?

01:01:12.540 Apparently not. Apparently, ever since this legislation has passed and they pushed they slipped it into the the budget bill, by the way.

01:01:20.360 But ever since this speech law has been passed, every Canadian citizen is now perpetually under a history test when it comes to the Holocaust.

01:01:30.620 And if you say the wrong facts or certain things about the Holocaust, you will, you know, you can go to jail for up to two years.

01:01:38.700 And the problem is that precedent, that legal precedent is now going to be expanded for residential school denialism.

01:01:47.300 or at least this is the new this is a new bill bill c413 which would make residential school

01:01:54.340 denialism a crime exactly the same as the the holocaust denial bill that's also passed

01:02:00.760 you know it's interesting let me just throw this little sure in for you what the history that we

01:02:10.820 teach in our public education system in Canada as a broad general statement is completely false

01:02:20.680 history. There is little that is actually correct or little that can be documented to be proven

01:02:31.320 in our entire history courses in elementary and in secondary schools.

01:02:43.560 And we don't promote the facts of our history.

01:02:50.460 So, you know, on one of my earlier shows on Canada,

01:02:55.840 a user's guide and owner's manual was Rise to Rebellion.

01:03:00.180 No, we went in and explored the actual facts of our history that are unknown to Canadians, things like the conscription crisis, the Winnipeg General Strike, the Upper and Lower Canada Rebellion Sea, the long, colorful, proud history of rebellion and opposing government in our history.

01:03:26.140 um and uh you know many many people called in and they were just absolutely astonished that we have

01:03:35.020 such a colorful uh history and most canadians think the only uh rebellion that ever happened

01:03:44.000 in north america was the american revolution or the war of independence uh well no we we've had

01:03:49.960 quite a few more here uh and they were very successful as well um so you know uh like you

01:03:59.320 if i was to use the government's own words in a manner that they use them i would say that our

01:04:06.280 history courses our history curriculum uh is misinformation or disinformation there you go

01:04:15.160 oh there you go if i would instead i'll just say it's false yeah yeah i mean i really want to

01:04:25.080 learn more about canadian history and i'm seeing your uh your new sort of series which is uh canada

01:04:33.460 user's guide and owner's manual um and stay tuned here it is right here a user's guide and owner's

01:04:41.720 And are you going to be covering more history on this series of yours?

01:04:48.860 Yeah.

01:04:49.520 Yeah.

01:04:50.020 So here the premise is fairly simple.

01:04:52.720 I think, Greg, it's one of the things that I, what I witnessed over my 15 years in elected office is that, and especially in the last four years,

01:05:04.540 A great many Canadians want to fix what they see as a very broken down machine of government.

01:05:14.520 But most people have very limited understanding or knowledge of how this machine was either designed to work or how it actually does work, which it works very differently and opposite to what its design is.

01:05:34.540 but in order to fix something you have to uh you know generally an owner's manual is a good place

01:05:40.540 to start and to understand how it is supposed to work and what the parts of it are um yeah and uh

01:05:48.860 that's my uh one of my projects is to help inform canadians about uh this political machine that we

01:05:58.860 have um and of course part of that has to be uh our history as well absolutely and i think i think

01:06:07.540 canadians who see what's going on are really sort of craving it uh i mean i had a debate last week

01:06:13.020 and then one of the main questions is what what is a canadian and you know because you have it came

01:06:19.060 up because of this conflict in the streets of uh you know the calistanis saying we're the real

01:06:23.320 canadians and the hindus saying we're the real canadians and then there's like a indian

01:06:27.960 nationalists saying oh the calisthenics are a canadian problem and it's like wait okay what

01:06:33.240 what is canadian wait a minute we're just kind of throwing this word around uh with people who

01:06:38.300 they're you know their primary language is punjabi here what's going on here but um uh i think

01:06:44.000 canadians are really craving sort of understanding more about where they came from or who they are

01:06:48.460 uh truly in terms of uh what i would call like the real real canadian uh we uh we've already

01:06:57.260 have been going for over an hour and you wanted to talk about the nuclear option uh we could talk

01:07:02.620 about what is canadian briefly or do you want to kind of go i think they go hand in hand um you

01:07:08.640 know yeah you know like like there has been a powerfully uh detrimental change um in canada

01:07:18.720 that's my view there's uh you know uh through my lifetime it is very evident to me that uh what

01:07:29.660 people of my generation and where i grew up in this country uh there was uh we knew what a

01:07:38.840 canadian was a canadian was somebody who uh was proud of their history and their heritage uh we

01:07:47.280 uh we weren't ashamed of our public figures um we you know we didn't topple down uh sir john a

01:07:57.800 or edgerton ryerson um you know we had respect and regard for those who built this nation and

01:08:07.580 It wasn't an easy task, but building the nation, it's a bit of an endeavor, you know, and, you know, but also, you know, when I was young, like a man was supposed to be able, was expected.

01:08:37.580 to be able to have an opinion to think and to have the confidence to express himself

01:08:48.620 and and also to protect himself um um and you know well um you know and you know there's um

01:09:00.220 Um, you know, it's just, uh, we, as I said, we had a proud military history as well.

01:09:08.840 Um, in, in both, in both, um, war and in peacekeeping, we weren't one or the other.

01:09:16.240 Uh, we could be more than, than that.

01:09:19.980 Um, and, um, um, but as we look at things now, um, uh, most Canadians,

01:09:28.940 i think i think this is true if you ask somebody what a canadian is today

01:09:35.860 their default position would be to contrast this with the united states we're not american

01:09:43.640 you know or you know or they would identify ourselves as due to a public service like

01:09:52.200 healthcare uh right well like okay well that's not uh that's your that's not defining what a

01:10:00.620 canadian is it's not defining what canadian culture is uh uh you know and we would be proud of

01:10:07.300 uh you know stopping tom connor singing on a sudberry saturday night or and we would uh we

01:10:15.180 would um you know elevate and we would appreciate the um yeah what canadian identity was through

01:10:25.500 through music through our art yeah you know when i was a kid uh yeah everybody knew who the group

01:10:34.380 of seven was and uh and thought you know these are pretty marvelous canadians uh yeah we um

01:10:44.860 you know we knew uh that canadians had done wonderful things inventing um

01:10:55.180 medicines like banking and best we knew that canadians were uh great thinkers great doers

01:11:02.940 great inventors um and uh you know we didn't have to say well we're not american uh and i think that

01:11:11.660 really uh you know we've seen uh masculinity be redefined as toxic in our country we've seen

01:11:25.180 And as people are reaching out and seeing all these problems and they're searching for ways to solve the political problems, you know, the problem, you know, the political problem is a derivative of the destruction of our family.

01:11:50.760 of the family unit the destruction of uh you know men don't know what men are supposed to do

01:11:59.420 it's not to be a man is to not be in your basement room uh playing video video games

01:12:07.740 and watching porn that's not what a man does in in in life uh um you know and uh and what it is

01:12:16.820 is if we want to fix this we have to recognize that the nuclear family is the only fix

01:12:28.740 to this country where men know what men are to be where women uh know what a woman is

01:12:37.080 um and where uh like there's a great there's nothing more satisfying uh in life than to

01:12:45.700 have children there's nothing more rewarding in life to have children and we have diminished that

01:12:51.320 our fertility rates are in the toilet and we want to have all the benefits and all the conveniences

01:12:58.600 of of affluence but we don't want to have any uh part or responsibility in it and uh you know we

01:13:06.960 don't want to make any of the sacrifices yeah and they're and they're not really sacrifices like

01:13:12.780 you know is it a sacrifice uh um you know to not go on two vacations a year and just go on one

01:13:22.720 is that a sacrifice um you know as i've said to others like you know a typical canadian family

01:13:29.900 now has has more cars in their laneway than children in their house um and we've prioritized

01:13:38.460 our material conveniences over our natural responsibilities.

01:13:52.460 And we see this in so many different ways.

01:13:55.980 This comes out with Canadians are ever more likely to demand government take responsibility for their lives.

01:14:13.360 And then, you know, and we see that where, you know, when I was a kid, and even when I was a kid, you know,

01:14:23.480 your grandparents

01:14:26.800 died at home

01:14:28.360 and

01:14:30.260 you know

01:14:33.820 and that's part of

01:14:36.320 learning and part of

01:14:38.120 understanding

01:14:38.700 and I think it's very fortunate

01:14:42.380 to

01:14:43.660 have

01:14:46.060 grandparents in your home

01:14:47.700 and have them die in your home

01:14:49.440 it's not a bad thing

01:14:51.520 it's actually

01:14:52.420 it helps teach children about life but we want to shift them off into a long-term care and

01:15:01.780 have somebody else pay for it so we want all these other things to be paid for by others

01:15:08.720 but we can't even reproduce ourselves so and that's part of the economic equation where we

01:15:19.440 have this unrestrained and massive immigration into our country each year because we want the

01:15:29.980 conveniences, but we don't want to take the responsibilities. That's right. And for me,

01:15:36.360 Randy, I can't really think on this topic without it becoming spiritual very quickly,

01:15:41.860 because you were talking about the materialism. And I just see that as a manifestation of hedonism,

01:15:48.920 of nihilism not believing anything except for your own sort of selfish desires and people are like

01:15:55.520 hey i don't want to have kids i'd rather just travel i'd rather just go to a new brewery or a

01:16:01.400 new winery and it's all very very selfish uh at the end of the day sorry to say guys but it's a

01:16:08.080 self-centered thing whereas when you have a child you are forced to be selfless you are forced to

01:16:14.160 be of service to something that is small and vulnerable and you you know you have to dedicate

01:16:18.920 a lot of your time and energy into nurturing something and it's the it's i i really see them

01:16:24.100 as opposites right like they're so i think you know that is we we have struck we have smashed

01:16:32.060 the foundations of of family and faith in this country uh over the years over my lifetime and

01:16:41.740 And we think that we can derive all the benefits and all the economic prosperity that family and faith have accrued and brought forth in building this country.

01:17:01.360 We think we can reject those fundamental foundational aspects and still have all the benefits.

01:17:09.820 And, well, that's stupid.

01:17:11.740 yeah yeah yeah and and the more you think about the you know the roots of the country

01:17:18.540 a lot of churches around of course there's a hundred less because a hundred of them burnt

01:17:22.540 down but um you know that's it's it's all there you know the character of our nation that we're

01:17:27.340 looking for is uh is i think related to uh to the church and at the very least like like you said a

01:17:34.280 family and faith um because you know when when you don't have that when you don't have the sort

01:17:40.400 of faith and the sort of uh belief of you know we are canadians and like and and our family matters

01:17:48.060 if you don't have that belief it it starts to get very sort of confusing and like i said

01:17:53.400 nihilistic and what you just believe we're space dust and i guess we should just lower taxes and

01:17:59.200 get cheaper milkshakes and cheaper vacations and we're just going to consume and that's the whole

01:18:04.140 point is to consume that's the national project for canadians is to consume and die yeah might

01:18:10.040 as well get made you know what i mean and the kid just goes straight to that well and this is where

01:18:15.060 the predatory nature of our state now uh requires people to see themselves as consumers

01:18:22.540 what what they don't understand is they are the ones being consumed uh the predatory state

01:18:29.080 where the state can't prey on a nuclear family and they can't prey on faith so let me give you

01:18:38.780 this one little uh contrast a piece uh that i did at the at a recent state of the union um

01:18:46.780 uh why i believe we have to go with the nuclear option and until we understand uh that that is

01:18:54.580 the path forward um 34 years ago sorry just to say like this is because one of the topics we

01:19:01.280 wanted to talk about tonight is like political solutions like how do we solve the nation's

01:19:06.180 problems and uh yeah and sorry please continue you're saying this is the nuclear option is how

01:19:12.820 we can attack yeah yeah but but just to put this in um to understand this uh 34 years ago um i uh

01:19:23.460 i had my fourth child um 34 years ago i was a journeyman electrician living in carton place

01:19:33.060 Ontario. Uh, I was making 25 bucks an hour. Um, so this 19, uh, 1990. Um, um, and that year I bought

01:19:45.520 the, um, about a house. It was a modest, nice, um, brick bungalow on the lights, a single family

01:19:55.960 home, nice size lot. My wife stayed at home with our four children. I bought that home

01:20:08.180 for $112,000. It was two times my yearly salary. And we had a new vehicle and we went on a

01:20:19.500 yearly vacation uh yeah we were not we were never shy on food or uh or uh couldn't afford

01:20:29.580 the heating bill or anything we um uh you got we got by um um and my wife uh took care of our four

01:20:41.040 children, right? On a single family tradesman income. And, you know, and I contrast now to

01:20:49.620 my youngest son, who's a tradesman as well. He makes about 30 bucks an hour. That same home in

01:20:55.780 Carlton Place now will cost them near $600,000. So, you know, instead of two times his yearly

01:21:06.480 salary it's 10 times as yearly salary um in 1990 a brand new average car cost you 15 000 in canada

01:21:17.040 today 65 000 yeah you know um so you get in the picture here the the wages are fairly flat um

01:21:29.520 Um, um, however, um, um, and, you know, and, and here's, uh, you know, fuel was 59 cents

01:21:38.980 a liter on average in 1990.

01:21:42.120 Well, it's not been 59 cents for a while.

01:21:45.400 Um, soon though, fingers crossed my dip.

01:21:51.180 All right.

01:21:51.820 So, uh, but here's another important thing on this.

01:21:56.900 The total entire Ontario net debt in 1990 was $35 billion.

01:22:05.900 It is now $429 billion.

01:22:11.100 The debt has gone up even greater than 10 times.

01:22:15.820 Wow.

01:22:16.820 And of course, we can see here,

01:22:22.140 we're on a path of diminishing returns.

01:22:26.900 each subsequent generation and each younger person is having less and less to keep in their

01:22:38.260 own pocket and less and less of a standard of living um as the state grows and grows

01:22:47.220 um that public debt needs to be paid somehow and um um and it's being paid through this

01:22:57.660 uh you know absolutely uh inflation inflationary monetary system you know here's another one was

01:23:06.840 you know in in 1990 you could buy a u.s dollar with a dollar 15 canadian

01:23:11.040 now it costs you $1.40

01:23:13.760 that's right

01:23:14.580 so

01:23:16.220 I was going to say to go back to your family point

01:23:19.920 as you were speaking

01:23:23.260 I was thinking about how

01:23:24.820 aggressively Pierre Polyev

01:23:27.060 sort of panders to the

01:23:29.100 East Indian community or the Hindu community

01:23:30.980 and when you break that down it's probably

01:23:32.920 because there's what makes

01:23:35.140 up that community

01:23:36.340 it's a bunch of

01:23:38.540 families who have

01:23:40.800 a common faith and if you look at the behavior of pierre polyev i really don't think he spends

01:23:48.200 a whole lot of time pandering to white christian canadians i don't think there's much time at all

01:23:54.420 really spent pandering to that group and uh i think it's because like you were saying we've we've

01:24:00.300 a lot of us have been brainwashed to think of us as post-national consumers a canadian is a canadian

01:24:06.660 is a canadian and we're we're a post-national state and and because of that i think it's it's

01:24:11.840 really um you know it's not a toll on people's psyches on people's you know families and their

01:24:17.240 sense of faith but i i think you're really right on the money with in terms of what the solution

01:24:21.300 is which is to build like really start to bring together those building blocks of those nuclear

01:24:27.000 families to you know start clumping them together like-minded people like-minded faith and um you

01:24:34.000 know what's stronger than a than a family bond right nothing um you know and and again it's it's

01:24:41.740 very complimentary it's you know uh uh our family relationships and um you know these are christian

01:24:50.700 faith-based um uh values and and derivatives uh so um yeah it's uh um if we go the nuclear

01:25:03.780 option we will be able to subdue the state otherwise we are just going to be uh preyed

01:25:09.940 upon um by the state um and we're going to have continued to have diminishing returns

01:25:20.020 for everyone who is younger than me um um and uh until you get to the point where

01:25:29.300 you are working or of the you are the state like the state owns you they own your speech

01:25:39.520 they own your thoughts they own your home um they own your actions um and you are no longer

01:25:52.720 an individual yeah and i feel like it is slowly starting to go that way especially in city centers

01:26:02.000 where there's this increased dependence on the state there's i don't even know what the percentage

01:26:06.160 of the population is now do you know the percentage of the population that that works for

01:26:10.000 the government or is a sort of government employee because i'm sure it's getting it's really hard to

01:26:16.360 get a firm handle on this because because there's also federal provincial municipal municipal

01:26:24.920 federal provincial they're the easy ones but then you have the um uh the broader public

01:26:32.840 sector like school teachers paramedics police officers and then you also have the crown

01:26:43.080 corporations uh canada post cbc you know and in each province has a multitude of

01:26:52.200 crown corporations as well um so but it looks like um um

01:27:03.080 and the last time i looked at this one was not long ago um out of a i believe our workforce was

01:27:09.560 16 million people uh and uh as best as i could determine there was at at least four million

01:27:18.520 people on the public payroll um um so leaving you know leaving somewhere yeah 10 or 12 million

01:27:28.760 canadians being the economic engine for for 40 million and that's not a high number yeah

01:27:43.400 you know because that's uh like the four million uh public sector workers they're

01:27:49.720 they're a administrative overhead um they're they're not a they're they're not producing

01:27:56.760 any wealth at all right but consuming it um and uh and you've only got about 10 million

01:28:04.620 canadians now actually producing enough that they also um employ people well for that that one who's

01:28:14.740 working has to carry three who aren't right well let's let's wrap it up let's let's end on something

01:28:22.660 more uh more positive here yeah well you know so you mentioned that there's 100 churches have

01:28:29.640 been burnt right there's been a lot more planted and built and that's something that people aren't

01:28:38.020 seeing um you know uh and yes it was horrible and uh atrocious that um the churches were being

01:28:48.560 burned. I mean, we couldn't find out who was doing them. It's sort of like, you know, who blew up the

01:28:54.040 Air India plane. We couldn't figure that one out either, you know. But we're also seeing a great

01:29:06.240 many people as I travel around these new freedom groups that are coming together. A great many

01:29:14.340 people um have during covid left urban centers and moved to rural areas we're seeing a a big

01:29:25.140 resurgence of um people living a more sustainable and rural lifestyle and uh and homeschooling and

01:29:35.860 and who have taken the nuclear option um where uh and understand the man is supposed to be

01:29:43.540 producing and and providing for the the family and protecting the family and um the mom being

01:29:51.060 a mom um so uh and then we're seeing all these new co-op schools and homeschooling uh combinations

01:29:59.060 along with christian schools um so you know i think there's really um people are already

01:30:09.220 doing the nuclear option and i think it's going to grow and expand and so i think there's a great

01:30:18.520 cause to be optimistic and even if you don't see this resurgence because a lot of these people

01:30:29.300 obviously greg i think you can understand that especially over the last five years many of them

01:30:35.120 are keeping a very low profile and they're not out beating a lot of noise right now yeah

01:30:43.360 you know keeping a low profile but i but i think the other thing that we we uh um you know uh

01:30:51.200 for the first time in five years we now have a platform that is um you know amenable and

01:31:02.840 promoting a free speech

01:31:04.780 and I think that's an

01:31:07.080 important

01:31:07.520 and it's been paying

01:31:11.120 dividends from what I can see like

01:31:12.920 yeah no it really

01:31:15.260 was a dark

01:31:16.960 time during

01:31:18.660 COVID lockdowns where if you had the wrong

01:31:21.200 opinion about the wrong thing

01:31:22.660 you'd get shut down you get your account destroyed

01:31:25.320 by big tech

01:31:26.540 including Twitter at the time

01:31:29.160 but now you're right you're absolutely right

01:31:31.060 with x with elon's x with elon's twitter uh there is a lot of hope there because uh you know just

01:31:38.460 the necessity of of free speech free expression and and not having a platform that has a political

01:31:46.040 bias baked into it uh is so crucially important right now well not just a a bias built into it

01:31:53.460 we saw uh you know the twitter files have revealed this the congressional hearings have

01:31:59.700 reveal it we had the cia the dhs the fbi planted in our social media platforms and were directing

01:32:12.680 uh these uh platforms to uh to delete accounts and delete comments um um so you know that was

01:32:24.380 a big revelation

01:32:25.680 that only really was

01:32:28.300 burdened on with Elon's purchasing it.

01:32:30.080 But I would say

01:32:30.680 there would be no way

01:32:34.480 Trump would have won

01:32:35.940 without

01:32:38.560 Elon purchasing

01:32:42.480 X or Twitter.

01:32:44.480 Because not only

01:32:45.440 that's one

01:32:48.220 platform, but look at

01:32:50.360 the cascading

01:32:52.480 consequences from that.

01:32:54.380 uh tucker carlson yeah true you know having uh uh what did he have like 100 million views

01:33:04.700 of his interview with uh vladimir putin uh and and bringing out all these um um you know

01:33:13.420 like the audience levels that um uh well you know previously uh with views and commentary

01:33:24.060 that previously would have been censored um all became available and and then you look at

01:33:30.540 so the whole host of the independent media in the united states uh yeah not only could be get behind

01:33:38.540 trump but they could actually reach an audience uh so the joe rogan's the tuckers the uh um you know

01:33:49.340 they've got hundreds and hundreds of them in the states and i think that's something that

01:33:56.200 we need to latch on to here in canada we have we have a nascent

01:34:03.140 independent media people like the western standard a host of independent podcasters

01:34:15.340 doing social and political commentary.

01:34:19.560 Yourself, Catherine Kowalchuk, Odessa, Matt Earhart,

01:34:24.340 just are a few names that come to mind.

01:34:29.360 So I think the next federal election here

01:34:34.920 may have some different outcomes from it

01:34:41.680 now that we have a free speech platform.

01:34:45.340 um to speak on absolutely absolutely and one one question before before we wrap it up here

01:34:51.700 uh for for canadians out there i'm assuming most of my audience audience or some of my audience

01:34:59.520 we are people who kind of see through the lies of the conservative party and we're like yeah i mean

01:35:06.760 it's probably better if he gets in other than trudeau but it's still going to be the same

01:35:10.840 problems uh just a blue tie um it could honestly be worse because we're going to feel like we got

01:35:18.660 rid of the boogeyman even though we got a new guy in there and you know that that's a kind of

01:35:23.020 dangerous thing to have somebody with all this public support who might be ready to just you

01:35:27.180 know out of the frying pan into the fire but um what do you think uh aside from the nuclear family

01:35:32.760 of the nuclear option of focusing on you know your own personal life and trying to have that as

01:35:37.880 uh dialed in and optimized in terms of you know fulfilling yourself um what would you have any

01:35:44.920 sort of advice of what people should focus on uh now until the upcoming uh 2025 election

01:35:53.640 well yeah i think yeah you you know i know i don't like giving advice unless i've taken it myself

01:36:02.840 Like I, you know, we've got some dangerous times ahead.

01:36:06.780 And if we allow our first four conveniences to drive us, there's going to be a problem.

01:36:16.280 Like, so, you know, we have a big danger ahead with digital IDs, with digital currencies.

01:36:24.960 Those are too, so use cash as much as possible.

01:36:31.880 And certainly don't get any more ID than you have to at the very minimum.

01:36:42.420 But, you know, I think, you know, I think we're seeing more and more people moving out of that trap of convenience without moving into different lifestyles.

01:36:59.840 Um, uh, and I think that is really, um, the most important key and, uh, give yourself a, um, the opportunity to view life through some different lenses, uh, then from the 30th floor of Bay street, uh, in Toronto or whatever.

01:37:23.900 um and um you know so um you know but and i think you know if you're thinking about on the

01:37:32.340 political lines like um um you know people really really need to there's also there's a pile of new

01:37:42.740 groups that have started that are very active in the municipal side uh uh there's a project

01:37:48.760 local action another one the municipal reform project in nova scotia they have a independent

01:37:57.800 political alliance you know there's a there's a multitude of

01:38:07.000 political you know alternatives developing as well greg and you know in

01:38:17.400 uh and let's get a little more knowledgeable about this sort of stuff um and you know um

01:38:26.760 educate you know let's start educating let me end off with this one

01:38:31.320 uh there was a real funny uh illustration of this it wasn't funny but it's uh a stark

01:38:39.560 during the uh the uh don't mcginty kathleen winnier's here in ontario i was in opposition

01:38:50.680 with the conservative party at the time and we found that the premier had been sending letters

01:38:59.320 to the ministers informing them that there was fundraising targets that each minister

01:39:08.040 was expected to raise every quarter for the party right um and of course you know i don't know if

01:39:18.220 people understand it but that's that is one that is the key role of a minister in a in a cabinet

01:39:24.120 is to fundraise from the stakeholders who utilize that ministry so i'll give you an example the

01:39:34.980 the Minister of Transport

01:39:37.380 in the ministry puts out

01:39:39.460 contracts for road paving, highways

01:39:41.440 and bridges.

01:39:44.740 So

01:39:45.140 the big road

01:39:47.460 builders, civil engineers and

01:39:49.400 bridge builders and stuff,

01:39:51.540 that's

01:39:53.060 your stakeholders.

01:39:56.040 And you can go through

01:39:57.480 all the ministries.

01:40:01.280 Anyway, we found, we got this letter

01:40:03.360 And we said, ha, ha, ha, we caught you, you damn liberals.

01:40:09.040 It's here in black and white that your ministers are fundraising from their stakeholders.

01:40:17.260 So they say, if you want to get a meeting with the minister, well, maybe if you've contributed $20,000, that'll get the door open easier for you.

01:40:30.520 You know, the term we used was cash for access.

01:40:33.360 So this week, big hullabaloo in the Ontario Parliament again, because the Liberals and the NDP caught a hold of a letter from the Premier directing fundraising targets from each of his ministers.

01:40:56.240 Of course, we cried foul in how corrupt. Only the liberals could be this corrupt to do a cash for access.

01:41:08.100 Not us. Not us conservatives. Never. Never we would do that.

01:41:13.020 sure is it driven snow us conservatives uh and here we get uh you know like

01:41:21.780 um it's if you think that you're going to get any difference like my lord

01:41:32.200 how many times do you have to be slapped in the head before you wake up exactly exactly

01:41:40.100 all right randy thank you so much for your time today again congratulations on having these

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01:42:14.100 What's your handle?

01:42:15.140 Uh, um, uh, yeah, my name should be somewhere, uh, search Greg Wycliffe.

01:42:22.020 I don't, uh, yeah, look around for me.

01:42:25.640 Try to subscribe to me.

01:42:27.000 Uh, I'm on Facebook.

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01:42:29.660 Yeah.

01:42:30.300 And, you know, we need to, uh, we need to expose, uh, good people doing good things in

01:42:36.620 our country to uh uh to get the word out uh and uh and i know you've been doing marvelous stuff on

01:42:44.680 on free speech and uh um so um yeah and and if the only i'll i'll give a shameless plug plug for

01:42:54.080 myself if you uh every monday night at 8 p.m uh i do a podcast with uh this week i had bruce party

01:43:03.060 on professor of law from uh queens uh this coming week uh i'll have uh former premier of newfoundland

01:43:12.420 brian peckford on my canada uh user's guided owner's manual uh and we'll be talking about

01:43:20.820 some of his insights during the um creation of the charter of rights and freedoms in 1982

01:43:27.780 um and um yeah and then and then after our podcast after our live stream podcast every

01:43:36.580 monday night then we do a live twitter space as well for uh if you haven't got enough politics

01:43:43.420 you can jump onto twitter um as well so uh but and the only other thing i would say is

01:43:50.640 take the nuclear option

01:43:53.660 and be optimistic.

01:43:58.460 We will...

01:44:00.180 Don't be a doomer

01:44:01.400 or a gloomer.

01:44:03.320 Or a consumer.

01:44:05.460 Or a consumer.

01:44:08.360 Good one.

01:44:10.400 Yeah. Hey, thanks again, Randy.

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01:44:23.840 but thanks again for having me Randy

01:44:26.080 and until next time sir

01:44:28.180 it's been a pleasure

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