Greg Wycliffe - December 28, 2025


REMIGRATION Discussion | Why supporting Dominion Society is a no-brainer


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In this mashup, we are joined by the founders of the Dominion Society of Canada, Daniel Tyree and Greg Wycliffe, to discuss the concept of re-migration and Canadian nationalism within the political discourse in Canada.

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00:00:00.000 there it is welcome to source one saturday night mashup my name is nico laggan as always my co-host
00:00:08.000 jason levine and tonight we are joined by dominion society of canada founders daniel tyree greg
00:00:14.720 wycliffe we also joined by tyana truth seeker seek and i apologize for massacring your name
00:00:20.720 again and canadian veteran jeff evely to tackle probably the most controversial topic in politics
00:00:28.320 today re-migration our question for you is very simple does canada need re-migration welcome welcome
00:00:38.880 and welcome
00:00:42.720 so as always we do a little quick round the table to introduce people just in case people don't know
00:00:49.120 you so we'll start at the bottom left jeff eveley welcome what's going on um well it's christmas so
00:00:56.880 merry christmas everybody i'm uh hanging out in ottawa here just visiting my jewish baby grandson
00:01:02.640 and uh i'm a 20-year veteran canadian armed forces uh released in 2021 september basically did a
00:01:11.440 combat role out of the military and right into the freedom movement um you know uh did uh got
00:01:16.960 arrested a few times for going maskless and uh took off to the convoy rolling thunder james top
00:01:23.840 one million march for children 2025 election and uh most recently i took a walk in the woods
00:01:30.800 and a 25 000 fine so uh we'll be going to court for that in february stay tuned
00:01:38.480 uh greg your turn tell us who you are what you do and why you're here
00:01:44.240 yeah my name is greg wycliffe i'm a canadian content creator just finished up my first
00:01:49.040 documentary about the pitiful state of free speech in canada i'm also one of the founding
00:01:53.840 board members of the dominion society tonight i hope we get to go over why supporting dominion
00:01:59.600 society and remigration is a no-brainer but uh yeah thanks so much thanks so much for having me
00:02:05.520 guys diana welcome again awesome hey i'm tiana truth seeker um i was called on this panel um
00:02:16.480 just because I have kind of an interesting balanced view on a lot of things that are going
00:02:22.720 on. I know a lot of people hate me and that's okay, but I'm just going to put the controversial
00:02:27.840 views out there and see what happens. So that's me. I'm just here to piss off a bunch of liberals
00:02:34.080 and all politicians, to be honest. I'm kind of hated by all sides because I call them all out.
00:02:39.440 So what are you going to do about it?
00:02:41.280 i'm happy that you made your own introduction because balanced is not a word i would have used
00:02:48.000 to describe you uh david welcome david welcome daniel or daniel oh man my apologies sir
00:02:59.060 you're muted brother
00:03:02.220 name's daniel tyree i'm the founder and chairman of the dominion society
00:03:09.160 I worked with Greg to advance the interests of our organization.
00:03:13.320 We're a new metapolitical organization focused on promoting the concept of remigration and
00:03:18.720 Canadian nationalism within the Canadian political discourse.
00:03:22.960 Before that, I was involved in the People's Party of Canada.
00:03:25.380 I served as the executive director of the organization from just after the 2019 election
00:03:31.080 until May of 2024.
00:03:33.880 And then earlier this year in July, Greg and I launched the Dominion Society.
00:03:37.940 So definitely very relevant tonight's discussion to what we do.
00:03:41.940 Our main goal is kind of to popularize this concept of re-migration, which I believe is desperately necessary in Canada, which is the central focus for tonight.
00:03:51.740 So I'm happy to be here to explain what we believe re-migration is and how it can be implemented and why it's in the best interest of all Canadians.
00:04:01.020 And of course, Mr. Levine.
00:04:04.060 Thank you very much, Nico. Jason Levine, host of The Levine Show.
00:04:07.160 I do lots of interviews with a bunch of different people and different topics.
00:04:11.100 My ambition is to learn and share that information.
00:04:14.700 And today, I'm really excited to learn more about remigration.
00:04:17.960 What does that mean to Dominion Society?
00:04:19.820 What does it mean to other people?
00:04:21.780 And what does it mean to Canada as a whole?
00:04:24.120 Do we need it?
00:04:25.080 If so, how's the marketing and the PR for it?
00:04:27.920 And what would be the best approach to getting that information out there?
00:04:30.860 I'm really looking forward to this panel.
00:04:32.120 I think we have a good collection here to get that information specifically out.
00:04:35.360 and i'm looking forward to some debates some civil conversation and maybe some drunk tiana it's gonna
00:04:40.860 be fun uh nico laggin content creator political commentator professional asshole i'm very um
00:04:50.720 similar to tyana i pissed off both sides the left the right don't like me but that's why i do what
00:04:55.900 i do right so let's this is a topic that i'm hearing left right and center the left is talking
00:05:02.500 about it the right that's talking about it but we jason and i really wanted to give the space to
00:05:08.740 people that are promoting it to come here and take the time to explain it to people because it seems
00:05:14.660 that we hear there's two main groups there's you guys and their second sons that really talks about
00:05:20.580 re-migration and i want to give you the space and i'm especially talking to um greg and daniel right
00:05:28.580 now to tell us what is because it's simple right what is re-migration what do you guys consider
00:05:35.780 re-migration and what are the problems that it address okay so on that note let's go ahead and
00:05:41.540 start with daniel as the founder of domain society you should be able to define it this is not a
00:05:46.020 woman we're talking about it's difficult for people to define a woman but i'm pretty sure you
00:05:50.100 can define re-migration daniel go for it i i think i could uh describe both of those uh define both
00:05:55.620 those teams easily to be to be frank we'll start with re-migration we'll see where tonight goes
00:06:00.660 um simply put re-migration is the the polar opposite of mass immigration so it's pretty
00:06:05.060 self-explanatory from the word uh mass immigration is when people come here re-migration is when they
00:06:09.940 go back uh so it's a it's a comprehensive set of policies set to to reverse the impacts of mass
00:06:17.460 immigration and maintain and preserve a nation's ethnocultural identity. So we at the Dominion
00:06:25.700 Society, we've broken down re-migration and made a specific tailored plan for the Canadian context.
00:06:30.980 We have a 10.3 phase plan that breaks down everything from temporary foreign workers and
00:06:36.340 asylum claimants to permanent residencies and citizens, all these different issue areas to
00:06:43.700 kind of halt not only halt mass immigration but also undo the kind of damage that it's done
00:06:48.900 over the last few decades but in particular over the last kind of 10 years under justin
00:06:53.140 trudeau when when mass immigration kind of went off the rails and and kind of veered off and
00:07:00.260 unprecedented in radical ways uh so so many people in this and so many political parties
00:07:05.940 are willing to to accept that mass immigration has become a problem but very few entities are
00:07:11.300 are willing to actually uh address this problem comprehensively uh they give us solutions to kind
00:07:17.300 of deal with the consequences of mass immigration uh myself and us as an organization we come
00:07:22.500 forward and say hey wait we don't have to just accept the mistakes of previous generations of
00:07:26.740 politicians we can we can offer policies that correct for their mistakes and undo what they've
00:07:32.580 done to our society um so personally i consider myself a nationalist and when i say that i mean
00:07:38.100 that i view things uh not i don't view canadians as just atomized individuals i i view them as
00:07:45.460 components of the broader nation so this kind of living organism that exists intergenerationally
00:07:50.980 throughout time uh a group of people with a shared ancestry and heritage identity and culture and i
00:07:58.180 think that as a nationalist my goals politically are prefer to preserve the best interests of the
00:08:03.860 broader nation um and right now i see mass immigration as the main problem in society
00:08:10.020 um because it's actively transforming the nation and um and and watering it down and
00:08:16.580 changing it into something else and i think that the goal of the nation state when it comes to
00:08:20.980 immigration needs to take in a nation's national identity um when setting kind of boundaries and
00:08:27.940 goals uh and this has not been really taken into consideration in modern immigration policy it's
00:08:34.020 all been very kind of economically focused um and as a result we're seeing the the transformation
00:08:40.260 of canadian society into something very different and very foreign and uh i don't want to pass on a
00:08:46.500 foreign country to my children i want to pass on uh the country i was born into in the country my
00:08:52.180 parents and grandparents were born into i think we have a duty to preserve that society and pass it
00:08:56.900 on to the next generation right now the only way to do that is through re-migration just given the
00:09:02.020 kind of unprecedented mass immigration policies that were uh pushed onto canada over the last
00:09:07.460 few decades but particularly over the last kind of uh 10 to 20 years great introduction i think
00:09:13.780 it's pretty easy to follow greg we're going to come to you next uh as the director producer of
00:09:19.780 the hate network by the way i was at the screening the world premiere in calgary great movie you know
00:09:25.140 what it's like to deal with media the hate that comes from the media the twisting and the
00:09:30.340 redefinitions that come out of the media so how do you see that affecting the migration conversation
00:09:35.620 that you and daniel are trying to have yeah well i'll first of all kind of just jump off of
00:09:40.580 something daniel was saying which i think is important to emphasize which is you know people
00:09:46.180 like daniel and myself and true nationalists we recognize what a nation is like in the true
00:09:51.220 definition of what a nation is and it's not a geographical spot it's not gdp it's not just the
00:09:58.260 housing market it's not just the uh you know the stock market it's people it's the people of the
00:10:04.020 nation it is people with the shared ancestry shared history culture language and uh we're
00:10:11.140 people that see mass immigration as an existential threat you know like if this continues if this
00:10:16.660 replacement migration continues that's actually the end of canada like maybe if the gdp goes
00:10:21.140 up but like it's you know the canadian people are no longer there our culture is no longer there
00:10:26.100 that's not canada anymore folks so this i really want to emphasize that this is the most
00:10:30.580 existential threat to uh to our nation and uh yeah but um a lot and i'll kind of say something
00:10:38.340 else to kind of segue into what you're talking about why why i'm really excited about dominion
00:10:42.420 society is it it really comes from a place of self-love and self-preservation and self-respect
00:10:49.220 um as we kind of continue some of these conversations of kind of butting heads with
00:10:55.500 some of our critics and some of the people who are trying to gatekeep us we realize how
00:11:00.460 indoctrinated Canadians are how demoralized they really are and how like the basic impulse to
00:11:07.660 preserve yourself and just preserve your culture and your history and honor that it's completely
00:11:13.720 foreign to so many Canadians because they've just been beaten with billions and billions of
00:11:19.080 dollars of propaganda for so long. And we're really happy at Dominion Society to actually
00:11:24.660 be remoralizing Canadians to help them realize that, no, this is just about self-respect and
00:11:28.760 self-love, like there's actually nothing wrong with that. And yeah, and then we get called
00:11:32.700 racist, right? So, you know, just by the matter of talking about immigration, it's no surprise
00:11:38.760 in Canada, it's dominated by the CBC, it's dominated by state-funded media, and, you know,
00:11:44.280 they don't like this. They want to keep the tap on for mass immigration for various reasons
00:11:48.300 it imports liberal voters it imports cheap foreign labor you know it helps kind of disintegrate if
00:11:54.280 you're into the world economic forum stuff it kind of disintegrates the idea of this nation
00:11:59.700 being an independent thing that can stand up against the united nations to sustainable
00:12:03.380 development agenda right like it kind of like waters that down and disintegrates like a nation
00:12:07.780 who could actually stand stand up for itself and not just be part of the un or whatever
00:12:11.000 uh so there's a lot of reasons why they want to keep the tap on for immigration and um so yeah
00:12:16.760 they weaponize the term racist so they try to they say try to say that re-migration is ethnic
00:12:22.240 cleansing and they're going to use all sorts of you know comparisons and words to try to make up
00:12:26.980 make us look like these big boogeymen when really we're just people who are encouraging canadians
00:12:30.900 to stand up for themselves to love themselves to want their nation to continue to exist
00:12:35.780 fair and uh by the way i loved your movie so people are going to be checking out the toronto
00:12:42.000 screening that'd be a great thing for them to do jeff i'm going to come to you next uh you and i
00:12:46.300 both candidates for the ppc in the last federal election ppc has been talking about this since
00:12:50.620 2018 daniel probably behind some of that conversation as well and recently they started
00:12:55.900 to talk about re-migration and specifically using that term as well so what are your thoughts about
00:13:00.220 the transition to re-migration within the ppc and what's your definition of re-migration um
00:13:07.100 well i think uh the last time around here i said that i've been talking about this for years and i
00:13:11.820 think maxine bernier has been talking about it for years i don't know where the term re-migration
00:13:15.980 came from it seems like it's a it's a buzzword for for what we've been talking about for um
00:13:20.780 quite some time i think that um uh they're using it in the uk now with uh the uk uk party as well
00:13:27.900 so it does seem to be catching on um in in terms of uh what i think we have to do like um mass
00:13:35.500 immigration uh certainly is an existential threat i would agree on that and um it is it is time for
00:13:43.980 them to go back i can remember even when they were doing the uh the syrian migrant crisis that was
00:13:50.940 how justin trudeau got elected it wasn't just the um legalization of weed by the way the
00:13:56.540 the press used uh uh the body of a drowned uh toddler in uh i think it was in greece where
00:14:03.980 where he washed up uh during the migration crisis to uh to really uh shame canadians into accepting
00:14:11.820 40 000 um syrian migrants um while intrudel was the one who outbid everybody else um and as it
00:14:21.100 turns out the the kid's dad was actually a human trafficker and he was already safe and sound in
00:14:25.820 turkey uh on his way to germany to get some new teeth so um i'll uh kind of just uh you know
00:14:32.460 another big lie but uh in terms of what we have to do now i would say first and foremost we've
00:14:36.940 got to cut them off and stop paying people to sit around in hotels plotting terrorist attacks against
00:14:43.340 us and especially into the united states um you know we're getting isis terrorists picked up in
00:14:48.060 toronto for plotting terrorist attacks into new york on video crucifying a christian and dismembering
00:14:54.540 them in syria so we have some real serious problems there and i think as soon as we turn off the uh
00:15:01.740 turn off the money fire hose a lot of them will just kind of move on to another sucker or
00:15:05.900 or they'll go home birthright citizenship is another problem um there's uh there are a lot
00:15:11.900 of anchor babies and their mommies actually live in uh china and india for the most part so there
00:15:18.780 are all these there's this chain migration that's been set up and i think carney i just saw is um
00:15:25.340 bringing it all back where um you know we're changing the law again so that uh a canadian
00:15:31.980 will be millions of people all over the world uh just on the basis that they happen to have
00:15:37.660 a relative who was born on our soil um so we got to get rid of that and i think that um permanent
00:15:43.820 residents should probably mean something as in you're you're a permanent resident you're not a
00:15:48.780 citizen you can come here and you can work and you can pay taxes and have a peaceful productive life
00:15:52.620 and have children and send them to school here and they can vote when when they get older but if
00:15:57.100 you're a first generation immigrant i think that um you probably shouldn't be able to vote these
00:16:02.220 are just vulnerabilities in our uh election systems that we need to shore up um and uh yeah
00:16:10.060 i think uh once once the uh the gravy train once the the biscuit wheels come off this gravy train
00:16:16.460 and uh we probably won't have uh anywhere near the the kinds of problems that we do right now
00:16:22.380 um and uh you know even even welfare reform i think we could throw that in there there are a
00:16:28.700 lot of muslim families out there that are polyamorous and it's just that uh the wives all
00:16:33.420 live in different apartments from the uh the husbands and they all get their own separate
00:16:38.300 welfare checks um in uh instead of uh you know living together as a family so yeah there's uh
00:16:46.940 it's a lot of uh self-sabotage on our part and we're funding our own demise so
00:16:51.340 i think first and foremost we should stop funding our own demise and then beyond that we're probably
00:16:55.340 going to need a joint cbsa csis rcmp uh calf task force to clean up some of the nastier elements
00:17:04.540 that have made their way in here especially those affiliated with terrorist organizations and
00:17:09.100 i expect that we would probably need some help with the americans on that one given that the
00:17:12.620 cbsa and the rcmp are pretty clearly compromised at this stage so uh yeah we got a lot of uh
00:17:17.980 We certainly got our work cut out for us, but I think it starts with turning off that money fire hose.
00:17:25.980 That'll be an interesting thing to try and get done when the CBSA, RCMP, and the House of Commons are all compromised, it looks like.
00:17:32.820 Tiana, you came to Canada for a better life, but now you're in Texas, so I guess you didn't find that better life.
00:17:38.400 What do you think about re-migration?
00:17:40.460 you know what's really funny is i've worked in australia i've worked in norway
00:17:45.260 um for a year or two um while i was living in canada and nobody had an issue until i
00:17:51.900 came to the united states um then everybody was like oh you left canada oh you're just
00:17:57.180 running away it's like or maybe i just work abroad to you know uh broaden my resume but whatever
00:18:04.940 um so the thing with uh re-immigration and the entire um what should i call them i guess the
00:18:13.080 people's party of canada is that you isolate people like me and i'll be honest with you like
00:18:18.940 we've got tracy smith 2731 who says that i'm a male um and they go into conspiracy theories
00:18:26.900 that aren't real that the government's put out there um to kind of i guess show the world how
00:18:33.960 stupid certain conspiracy theories are and tracy smith 2731 takes on those conspiracy theories
00:18:42.460 so you're isolating a bunch of immigrants like myself who absolutely love canada yeah do i bash
00:18:48.280 on canadian liberals absolutely because i've seen the exact same thing happen to yugoslavia
00:18:53.260 with yugoslavian liberals and they sold out the country they sold it out for virtue signaling for
00:18:59.700 stupid pride and all of that shit. And the thing that I want to just tell Dominion Canada and the
00:19:05.740 PPC is you're isolating people like me. You know what I mean? Like calling people that just
00:19:11.380 immigrated to Canada that are now working in the United States who call out the bullshit and
00:19:15.960 all of the psychological warfare that's being done on you as people who are bad. But if I
00:19:22.860 didn't care about Canada, I would have just moved to the United States, closed down all my account,
00:19:28.060 just shut up or i would have started like you know grifting to the american public so what i
00:19:33.980 want to say is there's a lot of immigrants out there that love canada that would love to see
00:19:38.220 canada the way it was in the 90s and they want to keep that thing out there and to isolate those
00:19:44.620 people is actually wrong so yeah i will call out everybody i'll call out like indian canadians
00:19:50.620 or like indians coming to canada for ruining it i'll call out ukrainians i'll even call out my
00:19:55.500 own people and i think that's the main thing that people are kind of missing is there's good people
00:20:01.020 and there's bad people in almost every single color now um the mass migration that is happening
00:20:06.460 to canada is 100 purely to replace old stock canadians and i've called that out so many times
00:20:13.020 but there's also good punjabi indians who love canada who don't even like their own country who
00:20:18.620 escape their own country to come to canada to get away from that and those are the people that
00:20:23.340 you're isolating and you would have a lot more power if you just stayed with the fact that you
00:20:29.580 know people who love canada like myself um versus like i would say skin color because there's a lot
00:20:36.700 of jamaicans there's a lot of cubans who came to canada that i know personally who love canada
00:20:41.900 who love hockey who love our history who love our heritage who would absolutely love to join in on
00:20:47.820 that but they don't feel like they're welcome and i think this is kind of isolating in a sense but
00:20:53.180 But at the same time, we do need to call out those who are abusing the system, who are absolutely mass migrating, abusing the system, abusing the welfare system, abusing the migration system just to get in, just to get drugs in, committing crimes.
00:21:07.820 Absolutely, 100%.
00:21:09.220 But a lot of people like, you know, like Tracy Smith, 2731, who take these conspiracy theories, you have to understand that the logic and the IQ of most people are on a retardation level.
00:21:20.600 and so everything that you put out there will actually make people a lot more i should say
00:21:27.160 supreme or in that sense like crazy and they isolate people like myself so that's the only
00:21:33.880 thing that i guess i have to say i'm i'm curious why do you feel uh like you're being like isolated
00:21:40.140 or targeted like oh okay absolutely i will tell you this okay so you're you're friends with um
00:21:45.940 that alex transplendor i'm pretty sure he's watching because he doesn't really have a job
00:21:50.140 so he watches everything that's going on online um you guys accused me of taking brett wilson's
00:21:55.500 money when in fact i got my visa eight months prior to going sorry sorry i like i'm not talking
00:22:01.240 about like internet drama i'm talking about like why you personally feel targeted by like the
00:22:05.220 messaging oh okay absolutely so like um i've had i i've had um what's his pickle i don't know what's
00:22:11.880 that guy with the military i'm really bad with names um he's in the military he runs your guys's
00:22:17.520 thing he came on one of my videos not even watching it but just some dumb redhead from
00:22:23.040 your dominion group said oh this is always divisive and she's not even canadian she's
00:22:29.040 slavic like she doesn't even belong here she wasn't even born here meanwhile i'm trying to
00:22:33.600 like warn canadians of the communism that i've seen in my own country and i don't want to see it in
00:22:39.200 canada you know what i mean and yeah i'm working in the united states and i've worked in norway
00:22:44.240 i worked in like sweden and i just find it really weird the clickiness the stupidity of majority of
00:22:51.600 the canadians that are fighting for freedom like even with the trucker protests there's people
00:22:56.080 being like oh this guy started this guy who gives a who started it who gives a who
00:23:00.960 was at the front of the thing it's us versus them and we are so divided to the point
00:23:06.960 where everyone's has these clicky little gay groups it seems like elementary and high school
00:23:13.040 level shit like grow up we are all canadians and we're against the government we're against the
00:23:18.820 elites if you're not those are the ones that need to be deported and i think we all need to be like
00:23:23.380 a little bit more open in that sense of the way jeremy mckenzie that's his name he came on my
00:23:28.820 page shit on me for shitting on liberals do you know what i mean and it's just this basic like
00:23:35.040 oh my gosh she got out in the united states let's attack her oh this person's not even born in
00:23:41.340 canada let's attack them and that's exactly what they want you guys are falling into the exact same
00:23:46.540 elite playground that they want so that they can divide us so that we're not stronger together and
00:23:52.420 that's the one thing that i'm trying to tell canadians listen you guys have been programmed
00:23:55.820 to be like so clicky so high school and elementary life so stupid to the point where the elites can
00:24:02.320 come in and bend us over and fuck us all like a lot of people don't understand that when i come
00:24:07.240 after liberal Canadians I'm doing it because it's so frustrating because I've seen Yugoslavia go
00:24:12.260 down the same route and I don't want to see Canada go down the same route and unfortunately I'm not
00:24:16.540 going to hold your hand and like you know pet your little head make you feel better I'm just
00:24:20.520 going to tell you the truth and that's the only thing that I wish Canadians would realize it's us
00:24:25.740 versus them and there are a lot of Indian Canadians who are now taking advantage of the loopholes that
00:24:30.720 the liberals allowed and same with the conservatives because they're a bunch of pussies
00:24:33.980 and Max Bernier is just trying to like pretty much get money out of Canadians while he lives
00:24:38.820 free in Florida I'm sorry but I'm going to call out all of them they're all shit we all need to
00:24:44.400 come together as Canadians as people who are against the globalists doesn't matter of the
00:24:48.380 skin color but if you're going to take advantage of the Canadian system get the fuck out I don't
00:24:52.740 care what skin color you are but if you're going to love the Canadian history and the culture
00:24:56.880 then you should be able to stay because then we grow in numbers then we grow in strength and then
00:25:01.720 we can actually take on these globalists okay so i think it was fair for you to provide that
00:25:07.360 perspective tiana but one thing we will do is we'll just show that there's two different groups
00:25:12.240 here that we were talking about you were talking about jeremy mckenzie which is part of second
00:25:15.040 sons i'm pretty sure dominion society has their own group and we're also talking to the two founders
00:25:20.040 of dominion society which gives us the advantage of understanding directly what the messaging is
00:25:24.440 from them they don't represent those other groups that you're talking about and specifically the one
00:25:28.660 individual you talked about but i understand your frustration so around that and my position on
00:25:33.940 remigration is i'm still learning so i'm a student of it i'm trying to figure out what it means
00:25:38.260 because it means something different to a bunch of different groups and as a husband of an immigrant
00:25:44.820 there's certain groups she's supposed to leave and take my children with her and leave this country
00:25:48.340 which of course i'm not for and as a french heritage that goes all the way back to 1667
00:25:55.220 And so 200 years before Canada was Canada, I do think I have a representation through my family line to be here.
00:26:01.220 And I'm also allowed to choose my wife and have my children and have them here.
00:26:05.100 So that's kind of my perspective.
00:26:06.280 I'm still learning what remigration means to a lot of people.
00:26:08.800 And this particular conversation is going to be able to flush out some of this.
00:26:12.360 So I really appreciate you providing that perspective.
00:26:15.080 And I do think, Nico, we'll go to you next.
00:26:17.520 And then we'll get right back to Daniel and Greg to respond to some of Tiana's concerns there.
00:26:21.960 well you know what before you they do answer it i might have a question that i should have asked
00:26:29.600 before but i think it's going to put some context to this and you know similar to you jason it's
00:26:35.520 not something i have my own interpretation of what remigration is and i don't think that it's
00:26:40.640 based on where you're from if you're here making the country better that's great if you're not if
00:26:47.520 you're leeching, if you're here to take advantage, you need to go. So that is my definition. It's
00:26:53.020 very, very simple, but I'm curious to know more. Cause as you said, it's not something that I've
00:26:57.560 been following that closely, but it's becoming a real thing, which is why we wanted to organize
00:27:04.140 the conversation that we're having right now to get a better idea of what remigration means to
00:27:09.580 people out there. But at the end of the day, man, my family has been here for three or four hundred
00:27:15.160 years so as you said i i think i belong here i don't see myself being anywhere else but at the
00:27:21.640 same time does that mean that somebody that came here 50 60 years ago is not as canadian as i am
00:27:27.080 i have to be convinced on that one and this is probably what i should have asked you guys from
00:27:31.240 the get-go is can you guys define and i'm talking to the guys from from dominion what does it mean
00:27:38.440 what's the definition of canada like of being a canadian like what is a canadian that you guys
00:27:44.520 believe should stay or should be here in canada and who are the people that should leave because
00:27:50.920 that's the part i think that is not well explained out there at least from my perspective
00:27:56.520 now i think that's a fair question because that's most people's concern gentlemen is well who does
00:28:01.080 this include and not include is it is it race based is it time in canada is it roots in canada
00:28:06.920 or is it something a little bit more specific like contribution to canada if you're illegal
00:28:11.720 that kind of stuff what is the line that you define remigration for daniel yeah these are
00:28:17.560 two really important questions and they're actually the two questions that our entire
00:28:20.680 website's based around uh if you check out dominionsociety.ca you'll find there's two
00:28:25.240 main pages what is a canadian and what is remigration and it kind of rolls you through
00:28:30.120 these two core concepts because it's really what's at the heart of our movement uh the
00:28:34.360 definition of these two things and they're two things that are incredibly necessary kind of for
00:28:38.200 different reasons uh since the kind of trudeau senior era the identity of what is a canadian has
00:28:44.200 been completely eroded and replaced with this kind of post-national definition where it's just based
00:28:49.640 on kind of uh government paperwork and the acceptance of certain values like liberalism
00:28:55.400 and tolerance and kindness and stuff like this we reject this notion and we put forward a definition
00:29:02.120 which is rooted in our history and our heritage so we believe that being a canadian is more than
00:29:07.000 just having your citizenship and it's more than just liking hockey and being a nice person although
00:29:12.200 these these are definitely canadian qualities uh it's also to be a part of the nation to be a part
00:29:19.000 of this intergenerational family of uh people um the nation is that kind of next building walk the
00:29:25.720 individual the family then the nation uh we reject this kind of idea that canada's a nation of
00:29:31.000 immigrants these are these are very new concepts that were kind of introduced in the 70s and 80s
00:29:35.560 as they kind of redefined Canada through this cultural revolution.
00:29:40.160 We point out that true Canadians, heritage Canadians,
00:29:43.860 what we call heritage Canadians,
00:29:45.140 are the descendants of the settlers who came and built Canada from the grand up.
00:29:51.780 We draw this important distinction between settlers and immigrants.
00:29:56.260 These are not the same thing.
00:29:57.500 There's a big difference from someone that comes,
00:30:00.080 that braves hostile waters and lays roots down
00:30:04.040 and carve civilization out of an untamed wilderness
00:30:07.080 compared to modern economic immigrants
00:30:09.500 who come here to take advantage of our wealth and opportunity.
00:30:13.280 So real Canadians are very much like you guys just pointed out.
00:30:17.880 Jason, with ties back to the 1600s,
00:30:21.620 Nico, your family's been here for 300, 400 years.
00:30:24.580 You're objectively more Canadian
00:30:26.540 than someone who just arrived on a boat five minutes ago from India.
00:30:30.740 that like this person is not equally as canadian as you guys are they can be they can they can
00:30:37.160 integrate into canadian society they can adopt canadian values they can start enjoying our
00:30:42.120 our culture our food our our language our our our uh entertainment and so on but they are
00:30:49.500 fundamentally less canadian than you are because ethnicity ancestry is a component of this um
00:30:56.920 And countries, nations are built by people for their descendants.
00:31:02.720 And we see Canada as through mass immigration and multiculturalism, we're giving away our country to people who do not have the same kind of responsibility to it and fundamentally changing the fabric of what it is.
00:31:17.940 So, one, we believe it's very important, given the kind of culture of shame, this post-nationalism that has been pushed in our society, we believe it's very important to come forward with a clear definition of what a Canadian, putting our foot down and saying, no, there's something fundamentally different from families that have been here for four or five hundred years compared to people who have just got off the boat and arrived.
00:31:43.660 these are not the same thing that being said our remigration plan is not based on ethnicity
00:31:49.460 we're not talking about removing all non-white people from the country we offer as I said a
00:31:57.440 10-step three-phase plan that prioritizes groups like criminals illegals people that objectively
00:32:05.900 should not be here uh moving on to to people leaching off the system um and asylum claimants
00:32:14.700 and and into uh mechanisms to target um people who were given permanent residency that probably
00:32:21.660 should not have been uh people that were taking advantage of birthright citizenship and gaming the
00:32:26.860 system these are the kind of groups that we're targeting from a policy perspective because
00:32:31.900 they they have the least claim to be here um we are not interested in breaking up families um
00:32:39.180 obviously there should be uh considerations for for groups like this um i i believe the only true
00:32:47.500 way to assimilate into a nation is intergenerational through intermarrying um so
00:32:53.020 jason your your children uh from my perspective they will only be half canadian because your
00:32:59.980 wife is not canadian she's she's an immigrant um and your grandchildren depending on who they
00:33:06.940 you know have children with will be even more canadian than that and that's just how it goes
00:33:11.580 by my own definition i only consider myself half canadian um my mother is an intergenerational
00:33:18.300 french canadian my father is the child of two immigrants um so just just in in the name of
00:33:25.020 intellectual consistency like i only consider myself half canadian but i think it's very
00:33:29.100 important to be clear about these things just given how the elites have tried to transform the
00:33:35.100 identity of our nation over the last few generations this sort of language is unfamiliar
00:33:39.500 to most people because they they don't they're not used to hearing people talk about canadians
00:33:43.660 in this context it's much more easy to understand when you talk about uh countries like japan or or
00:33:49.500 or france that have a bit longer histories but if we're being uh clear and accurate about canada's
00:33:56.940 own history like it's the truth of any nation that that um ancestry is going to be a component
00:34:03.340 of it um when our when our ancestors came here and risked life and limb to build a society out
00:34:09.500 of nothing they did not intend for it to be a post-national economic zone where anyone from
00:34:15.260 anywhere could come and succeed like they they they suffered uh in order to pass a better life
00:34:22.060 onto their children and grandchildren and i think it's a great disrespect to our ancestors to just
00:34:27.420 hand off this country um to to other people that are simply undeserving like they have their own
00:34:32.620 countries there there's there's a homeland for the indians there's a homeland for um the africans
00:34:38.460 there's a homeland for the japanese i think there should be a homeland for the canadians as well
00:34:43.500 um so i i i'm not interested uh in being lumped in with the ppc or with second sons these are
00:34:50.460 different groups we have our own group the dominion society i don't know why tiana is kind of
00:34:55.660 uh saying that we're attacking or anything i i've honestly never heard of you before uh today i mean
00:35:01.580 no offense by that but i don't believe uh anyone from my organization has ever uh attacked you so
00:35:06.140 i don't be i don't appreciate being lumped in that way um but uh the the purpose of the dominion
00:35:12.860 society is also not to to offer a big tent to to everyone in anywhere like i'm not interested in
00:35:18.460 winning the support of uh or i'm not going to pander to to to to maybe people like tiana or
00:35:25.260 or the hypothetical indians that uh she brought up that might like hockey or whatnot um there
00:35:32.300 there are tons of advocacy groups out there for people of different ethnicities for foreigners
00:35:37.740 from all different cultures uh what what i think is really lacking within our political discourse
00:35:42.220 is people who will unapologetically stand up for what the identity of canadians and what needs to
00:35:47.340 to be done to protect that identity so that's what we're bringing to the table as the dominion society
00:35:53.180 we want to give a voice to heritage canadians that have been ignored for far too long
00:35:58.860 okay so now we'll move to greg now greg even 50 years ago this would not have been a controversial
00:36:04.860 subject at all and multiculturalism is what's diluted the conversation of identity so much
00:36:11.820 that this has now become a controversial subject for many and canada is not breaking new ground
00:36:16.780 here we're not being radical by having this conversation basically all over the west where
00:36:22.280 they feel like there's a replacement going on or a real push on migration to to take over the
00:36:28.100 culture or the identity or raise the culture identity of the nation you're hearing these
00:36:32.720 kind of conversations so kind of in dominion society are not breaking the ground here they're
00:36:37.060 just standing up a lot stronger than they did five years ago uh so what do you think about that and
00:36:41.940 then also maybe go touch on a few things that tiana had to say there because her perspective
00:36:46.360 is important because she does amplify and echo the feelings of many who are looking into the
00:36:52.460 subject for the first time. Sure. I just wanted to give a quick anecdote, you know, like what is a
00:36:57.800 Canadian? If I were to ask what a Nigerian is, we would all know what a Nigerian is. But ironically
00:37:05.460 or coincidentally, just kind of because of the political climate in 2025, a Canadian, a Nigerian
00:37:12.500 could also be a canadian and ironically jeff or greg my wife's nigerian all right so when he's
00:37:19.180 talking about her not being canadian she went through the process illegally became a citizen
00:37:22.620 did the whole right for trudeau step uh she's been here for 20 years now and nigerian ironic
00:37:27.940 that you brought that one up right right and she might say that you know canada is my home and
00:37:32.700 that's fair but like when she were to talk about her homeland it would be nigeria um so like you
00:37:38.180 this stuff it's it's quite interesting because um a lot of conservatives in canada so-called
00:37:46.100 conservatives a lot of so like so-called right-wingers in canada who maybe support polyab
00:37:50.400 or what have you they're actually still liberal like they still have a very liberal worldview
00:37:56.280 and a lot of what uh daniel has kind of laid out there is is kind of like you know we all know what
00:38:02.440 a woman is right but daniel's actually saying like no we actually know what a canadian is
00:38:07.340 as well and a lot of people are like well my friend who just got here identifies as canadian
00:38:12.440 that's like i don't really care if he identifies as canadian he might be a citizen sure he's a
00:38:17.400 canadian citizen but he's not a canadian historically in terms of the ancestry and
00:38:22.380 the history and that's an important distinction to make and it's it's really exciting because it's
00:38:27.080 it's you know it's upset a lot of people just by kind of anchoring the conversation at dominion
00:38:33.000 society in historical truths. You know, when the country was founded, it was 96, 97% Anglo-French
00:38:40.700 when it was founded. And then even in 1971, it was, I think, 70% Anglo-French and then like 96%
00:38:48.140 European. But yeah, these like stating these facts, of course, it gets you accused of white
00:38:53.580 supremacy for like knowing your history. It's quite absurd. But yeah, and to address some of
00:38:59.000 what uh tiana was saying um i kind of i kind of agree in terms of the drama that happens online
00:39:06.800 there's a lot of kind of people attacking this person no one can get along yada yada yada
00:39:11.040 and um i think like kind of the lesson there is um i i think that like the sort of freight
00:39:18.300 of movement the kind of like anti-globalist movement since the convoy has kind of been a
00:39:23.120 mess it's kind of been a mess for the most part there's been maybe a few standouts there's been
00:39:28.120 the national citizens inquiry i'll give them some credit there's been i don't know the dominion
00:39:33.960 society like i i'm already kind of like running out of organizations that have propped up since
00:39:38.720 then because um i think a lot of these kind of like freedom people aren't looking at the long
00:39:45.580 term maybe they're kind of still flailing around and to be fair i've been there the fear of seeing
00:39:51.100 people thrown in jail for standing up for bodily autonomy the fear of like like crunching down
00:39:56.380 with the free speech being like taken away, like this is scary stuff. And the fear stops us from
00:40:02.360 thinking calmly, stops us from looking at the long term, and stops us from actually having
00:40:07.940 good ideas to solve the situation. I really like Dominion Society because it's looking at the
00:40:13.160 long term, it's looking at the long term plan. And it's all about organizing. It's about political
00:40:18.400 organizing for the long term, it's going to be a lot of work. We I could talk for days about
00:40:24.920 username this username that they're hating on me they're saying all these unfair things about me
00:40:29.740 maybe some of them even have platforms you know i'm i'm freaking blocked by ezra levant the pleb
00:40:35.240 like rebel news online like i don't know why because i like shared the wrong opinion at some
00:40:40.800 point but like that's just part of the game it's part of the game of trying to continue to advocate
00:40:44.940 for what you want to advocate for and um i ignore that stuff because i know that these people are
00:40:50.680 just trying to get under my skin they're just trying to you know undermine what i'm doing
00:40:54.500 and you got to keep on pressing on
00:40:56.880 and look at kind of like
00:40:58.140 what are the actual leverage points?
00:40:59.740 What are the actual things I can do
00:41:00.780 that are going to make an impact?
00:41:02.460 And for me, Dominion Society is a no-brainer.
00:41:05.980 You have the history of Daniel Tyree
00:41:09.500 working for the PPC.
00:41:10.760 He has the experience of political organizing.
00:41:12.640 Our other board member, Ken,
00:41:14.160 also worked at PPC headquarters.
00:41:15.780 There's a synergy there.
00:41:16.820 They're very hardworking.
00:41:18.000 They know what it takes to talk to people
00:41:21.340 across the country and start organizing them.
00:41:23.540 and um it's very very exciting like like the phone calls i'm having with with members
00:41:29.440 people who have not been involved in politics before and they're they're understanding the
00:41:34.320 sort of self-love the self-respect like what we're advocating for isn't radical it's only
00:41:39.500 radical in the context we're in it's in the in the context of this insane super hyper liberal
00:41:45.160 status quo anybody who suggests anything other than a sort of rainbow dei for everyone is somehow
00:41:51.560 branded uh some evil boogeyman yeah like we're uh we're radical in that environment but like if you
00:41:58.280 really look at it objectively any self-respecting country would would implement re-migration
00:42:05.000 policies just at the point we're at so yeah and and again i encourage people what is a canadian
00:42:12.360 what is re-migration uh daniel worked really hard on dominio society.ca answering those questions
00:42:18.600 it's like the two links up there so just to kind of reiterate that if people want to find out more
00:42:22.600 it's a good resource thanks greg uh so jeff uh working in this for years you've been fighting
00:42:28.760 this issue for a long time you recognize that it's been an issue you serve for the country
00:42:33.640 uh and you have a good understanding what the canadian identity is and what canadian is
00:42:38.600 and you're also attacked online like basically everybody on the screen here is attacked online
00:42:43.480 by all sides because we are the true seekers are the ones that speak out that's what attracts all
00:42:48.440 sides to attack you so you know this as well as anybody else as well there's this whole woke right
00:42:53.960 concept that you talk about so how does that fit into this and what are your thoughts about what
00:42:59.000 tiana had to say specifically around the isolation of a group or a group that feels isolated is that
00:43:04.760 fair i'm sure her comments on it is fair but is it fair that they should feel that way and then
00:43:10.280 how do we make sure that we don't self-divide in such a way that this whole thing falls apart
00:43:18.440 Yeah, I do think it's fair. And there's, well, I think we got to abandon wokeness. We got to defeat wokeism in order to keep the whole thing from falling apart. It's a very polarizing ideology, and it is being driven on purpose.
00:43:37.220 um the woke right that you mentioned in particular i don't like that term that's
00:43:41.180 james lindsey's term um i was calling them woke before james lindsey actually uh coined that term
00:43:47.880 well he didn't even coin it but um i usually say it's more like residually woke which is probably
00:43:52.480 something more akin to what greg was just talking about where all of these uh you know trudeau
00:43:57.780 voters like uh like mario zelia out there who voted for trudeau and and now gets to tell the
00:44:04.860 rest of us out to vote. And we got to vote for Canada's new boyfriend and Canada's new boyfriend
00:44:09.460 is Pierre Polio. But in terms of the woke right in particular, it is the product of a foreign
00:44:17.640 funded PSYOP. There are several reports out there now. The one that immediately springs to mind
00:44:22.620 would be the Network Intagion Research Institute that showed that a lot of these narratives around
00:44:30.100 And Zionism and Jews and stuff like this are actually riding on foreign funded bot farms, namely Russia, China and Iran.
00:44:38.480 That's not to say that a lot of them are not organic, but just that our adversaries are very clearly interested in in driving this subject well beyond the grasp of all rational discourse.
00:44:50.340 And in the lead up to the bombing of Fordow, for example, we saw the Pakistanis getting in on it, where there were a lot of accounts that were actually Pakistani accounts saying that they were American veterans and my son's not going off to die for Israel.
00:45:04.220 And yeah, I've been absolutely witch-hunted by the woke right elements in my own party in the PPC.
00:45:14.020 And Tiana mentioned Alex Cargill, who was a candidate in the last election, who tried to get me cancelled.
00:45:22.520 A lot of people tried to get me cancelled. They didn't want me to be the candidate at all for the PPC.
00:45:28.720 Because apparently it's a groiper party.
00:45:31.120 There seems to be this widespread perception that it's like a griper neo-Nazi party and the platform is something like a, I guess, a veneer to kind of hide that in the agenda.
00:45:45.120 There's certainly a perception even within the party of that.
00:45:48.380 And, you know, Greg was sharing Alex's tweets about me and, you know, just sort of throwing shade because, you know, I what what what was the tweet?
00:46:01.240 I need to be vigilant about foreign interference from from Israel or something.
00:46:05.040 And that was after a six hour debate that I did with the whole Gruper base, two hours with Alex and then four hours with the rest of the Grupers.
00:46:13.960 And nobody is able to tell me what the threat emanating from Israel is.
00:46:19.340 And, you know, I get suspicious that this is really kind of the closeted agenda of, say, the Dominion Society, not just for that reason.
00:46:27.340 But, I mean, I saw one of Greg's promotional videos where he was talking about ethnostatism.
00:46:32.260 It sounds like you guys are promoting ethnostatism and using Israel as an example as an ethnostate.
00:46:38.080 But, I mean, Japan's an ethnostate and there are, I don't know, probably 80 or so ethnostates in the world somewhere.
00:46:45.420 So the fixation on Israel is the one that I always find to be a bit of a red flag.
00:46:53.160 And I suspect that, you know, neither the Dominion Society or any of these other groups would ever have me on board anyway, because I have a Jewish baby grandson.
00:47:01.820 done. But, you know, that's just a suspicion. It seems like all of the cultural staples seem to
00:47:09.120 align across these various groups. So, yeah, I think that it's intended, the PSYOP, the woke
00:47:18.400 right is intended to divide populist movements, especially the MAGA movement. And we see a lot
00:47:25.800 of them, like Alex, for example, is constantly attacking Trump now. So they're turning a lot
00:47:29.960 of the MAGA base on Trump. And, you know, they're totalitarian collectivist and Marxist. So there's
00:47:38.100 really nothing right wing about them. That's why I don't like to say the woke right. And you can't
00:47:43.280 work with totalitarians. You can only work for them. So, you know, that's why you end up getting
00:47:49.640 witch hunted. Okay. And then to answer this myself, of course, I have no problem with somebody who
00:47:58.300 comes here that wants to work in better Canada I do not like illegals they need to go anybody who
00:48:04.340 becomes a criminal needs to go I'm with Dan laid out the 10-step process of going through who
00:48:09.720 should be here and who shouldn't be here I'm not like inherently averse to that because there is
00:48:15.480 a difference between the person who built the house and then those who become the guest in
00:48:19.620 the house suddenly the guest can't own the house as far as I'm concerned the guest can't kick out
00:48:23.520 the person who built the house there is a distinction there even if you rent the house
00:48:27.660 still not giving you the right to go and take the house. So I do see a distinction there between
00:48:32.460 heritage Canadians and then people who come here. Maybe I'm biased because of my relationship and
00:48:39.060 my love for my family, but I'm also biased in that I think Alberta needs to separate from Canada
00:48:45.180 as a whole. So I'm not very nationalist because of that particular perspective,
00:48:50.500 but I'm very nationalist for the nation of Alberta. So I understand that too. So I'm kind
00:48:56.080 of torn in a few here ways here uh domain society so daniel and greg uh because i have some
00:49:01.320 contradictory uh polls but i do understand what you're talking about there's a big difference
00:49:06.940 between the person who built the home and those who are guests or even renting the home they don't
00:49:11.900 suddenly become the owner of the home because they declare it or threaten to use some sort of
00:49:16.820 violence or protest to go ahead and take it so i see that distinction as well and jeff uh what's
00:49:22.000 that flag that's behind you on the wall there oh you mean the red anson yeah okay so that's a flag
00:49:27.620 we see a lot when we're here in this particular conversation because that was the original flag
00:49:31.780 before the current canadian flag uh i think it's tiana's turn now so i'm going to come to you
00:49:36.480 as you heard some of these definitions and laying out more of what they believe a canadian is the
00:49:43.660 heritage canadian versus others and also what they believe uh falls under remigration uh what
00:49:49.600 your thoughts and do please keep in mind the distinction between other groups like second
00:49:53.320 sons even ppc when it comes to uh the main society because didn't mean society has separated
00:49:59.120 themselves from all other groups except for their own absolutely so daniel you said that i'm not as
00:50:07.360 canadian as you and you have no idea who i am well let me introduce myself i'm a fucking asshole
00:50:12.380 and i call out everybody and unfortunately i study the psychology of people on a level
00:50:19.080 that the three-letter agencies around the world study people
00:50:22.460 and how they actually manage to divide and conquer us.
00:50:27.260 And you are the perfect, and I mean perfect little lab rat
00:50:30.880 for dividing people.
00:50:32.560 So yes, I was not born in Canada.
00:50:34.580 I am not a born Canadian.
00:50:36.020 I'm married to a Canadian.
00:50:37.600 I loved everything about Canada.
00:50:39.280 I still do.
00:50:40.420 But do I get frustrated at the liberal Canadians
00:50:43.360 who are selling Canada to like the world globalists?
00:50:46.400 Absolutely.
00:50:46.880 And yes, the globalists are the problems. And when I say globalists, I don't mean Jewish people. That's for like the unintellectual, low IQ motherfuckers who don't actually understand any bit of conspiracy theory.
00:51:02.220 So I'm about to unleash on you. Who made Israel, Daniel? It was the UK, the president or the prime minister of the UK. He actually signed Israel into being before World War Two. They started World War Two. They paid Hitler to get the Jewish people into Israel so that then they can create more problems between Israelis and Muslims.
00:51:27.500 all of us are being fucked all of us every single religion jewish muslim christianity
00:51:35.460 whatever level of christianity all the abrahamic religions and all of the other religions with
00:51:40.340 multiple gods we're all being fucked and we're being fucked by the vatican that is the one
00:51:45.520 that's making all of the deals and we're being fucked by london who's the one financing everything
00:51:50.800 and we're being fucked by switzerland who's making everything i was an immigrant in switzerland i
00:51:56.500 would know i would know how it was treated and yes you are definitely more canadian than i am
00:52:01.660 because you were born in canada you have more canadian like relatives but i would have fought
00:52:06.440 for canada until what you said and all of you little motherfuckers in the comment section
00:52:11.580 who are like iq level fucking retards of like oh my god it's the jews it's the jews shut the fuck
00:52:19.980 up learn that it's the vatican learn that it's the united kingdom with their money and learn
00:52:25.360 that it's switzerland behind all of the brains and once we learn that the head of the snake and
00:52:30.420 who they are then we can cut it off and then we can go back to all being a bunch of racist fucking
00:52:34.860 assholes and having our own countries because these same people ruined my country and i'm trying
00:52:40.480 to get them to not ruin yours the one that you were born into with all of your ancestors all
00:52:46.960 i'm trying to do is warn you about the exact same play things that they do exact same steps that
00:52:54.060 they did to yugoslavia that they did it to soviet union that they did to every single other country
00:52:58.680 it is the same freaking playground it is the same like step-by-step thing and i'm all all i'm trying
00:53:06.480 to do is warn you motherfuckers about the exact same shit that's going to happen in canada
00:53:11.800 that happened in yugoslavia i don't care how i'm like canadian you think i am i really don't give
00:53:17.460 a shit at this point i really don't care all i'm trying to tell you is there after you your kin
00:53:23.860 your entire history and it's not the jews it's the british and the vatican and the swiss it's
00:53:30.680 like a nice little triangle of fucking retardation and inbreeding please follow the kazarian mafia
00:53:36.640 and the canaanites and then read the theology behind it and you will realize everybody will
00:53:41.920 realize who's actually after us they're using israelis just like they're using americans just
00:53:47.960 like they're using canadians as a puppet as a puppet and every fucking retard is like oh it's
00:53:53.160 these guys oh it's these guys uk vatican switzerland literally the fucking shithole of
00:54:01.160 like this entire planet and they're all a bunch of inbreds none of them have an actual religion
00:54:06.440 they're satanists they're just pretending to be jewish so that you guys can blame jews but they're
00:54:12.200 actual satanists they don't believe in islam they don't believe in the jewish religion they don't
00:54:16.660 believe in christianity they don't believe in any of that shit they're just using you and all of
00:54:21.880 your freaking psychology to try and get you to divide and hate on each other so that they can
00:54:27.540 take every single canadian thing and richness and like everything from you guys and that is what i'm
00:54:34.700 trying to do is trying to tell you guys hey wake up you guys have a bunch of english british
00:54:39.940 fucking assholes like carney like epstein like maxwell who literally is a british fucking piece
00:54:46.220 of shit that you guys are like saying she's israeli who made israel churchill churchill
00:54:51.480 signed israel into freaking being they're being used just like the rest of us the actual fucking
00:54:57.780 assholes are in the vatican uk and switzerland that's all i'm gonna say okay well in recent news
00:55:05.180 the vatican just came out and the pope himself just came out and said if you don't not accept
00:55:09.080 immigration you're not helping and you should go to hell yet the vatican itself does not accept
00:55:15.360 immigration and because it is a sovereign nation so i just want to put that out there
00:55:20.080 and nico we'll go to you and then we'll go right back to daniel because i think he deserves a
00:55:23.740 response to that you're muted nico
00:55:27.800 like i said earlier it's not really about me and my opinion today i just really want to learn
00:55:36.340 more about what you guys what your plans are what you guys believe remigration is and
00:55:42.060 what should happen in canada but i'm still kind of sticky on your definition
00:55:46.100 like you guys try to explain it i'm not quite there as in i'd like to be able to identify to
00:55:54.200 look at somebody look at their their past look where they come from and just say okay
00:55:58.820 this person you believe should be canadian or that person shouldn't be canadian so i'll give
00:56:04.060 you a very very specific example my example my family's been here for 400 years give or take
00:56:10.400 between 300 and 400 years on my father's side same on my mother's side i'm married to a first
00:56:16.480 generation italian so my wife was born here in canada her mother was born here but her father
00:56:21.840 comes from italy like he came here when he was 25 years old type of deal he's 70 now but he's
00:56:27.660 definitely from sicily he's an italian i have a five months old with my wife so first is my wife
00:56:36.480 in your in your platform is my wife canadian is my son canadian and if they are not canadian
00:56:45.320 what should happen to them like should they be deported should they go back to a country that
00:56:51.100 they never grew up in that's the part i don't understand so if you guys can explain that to me
00:56:56.640 i think that would make your beliefs at least what your system's based on your policies are
00:57:02.340 to be based on clear to everybody out there that don't know you guys okay so that's a fair reframing
00:57:08.820 there nico because there's three people on this panel who are concerned and questioning exactly
00:57:14.740 what does this mean like is there is there such a thing as a distinct line or is it a little bit more
00:57:19.860 gray than that yeah yeah i think it's a this is a great example to work off of um so i i just like
00:57:28.740 we use kind of jason's family as an example i think your family poses a very similar situation
00:57:34.100 nico um i like i believe your wife is italian i know she was born here but she was born here to
00:57:40.340 two italian parents uh regardless of where she's born like she is ethnically italian and as such
00:57:47.620 your children are half canadian and half italian and there's nothing wrong with that it's just a
00:57:53.460 but we think after generations of them pushing this kind of post-national values-based concept
00:58:00.020 of what a canadian is it's very important that a political entity comes into the discourse like
00:58:06.180 dominion society has and puts down puts our foot down and says no we know what a canadian is and
00:58:10.660 what a canadian isn't we're done we're done with the gaslighting we're done with this kind of
00:58:14.340 post-nationalism um nico's canadian nico's wife is italian their kids have canadian have italian
00:58:24.500 it's it's this is common sense um and that being said as i mentioned already a remigration plan is
00:58:31.780 not based on ethnicity like we're not advocating for the breaking up of families again i believe
00:58:36.980 that the only way to assimilate into into a nation is intergenerationally through intermarrying
00:58:41.780 um so while your child is only half canadian if he you know goes on to have children with
00:58:49.380 more canadians they will be you know three quarters canadian and and as such over generations
00:58:54.340 you you you really marry into the family so to speak or merge into the nation um but like our
00:59:01.380 remigration plan you know it starts with closing the doors and imposing a complete moratorium on
00:59:06.420 immigration it starts with turning off the the taps of all these social programs like the interim
00:59:10.740 federal health program and all these subsidies that go towards uh housing for asylum claimants
00:59:16.100 and all these social programs that prop up uh people that shouldn't be here so turning off the
00:59:20.900 taps uh closing the doors and incentivizing people to leave is is really the first stage we want to
00:59:28.100 our our foundational goal is to preserve canadians as the majority in canada and we do that through
00:59:36.020 this 10-point plan that doesn't mean we're going to round up everyone who wasn't born here and send
00:59:40.660 them back that means we have a 10-point plan to reverse the flows of more recent migration plans
00:59:47.620 in order to maintain Canadians as the majority and to maintain our identity as a nation
00:59:54.260 as a result I hope that's a bit clearer I know it's kind of confusing because we take a very
01:00:00.500 hard stance on what a Canadian is and then people assume that we want to remove everyone that isn't
01:00:05.060 that doesn't meet this definition and it's not that it's not quite that simple we think it's
01:00:09.940 It's necessary to be clear about our terms, but we do have a more nuanced plan that follows adjustments of policy and would be consistent with Canadian constitutional law.
01:00:22.420 Now, to go back to Tiana and Jeff.
01:00:27.440 But hold on, Daniel. But Daniel, before you address that, I want to be very clear because I don't feel that you're answering my question at all.
01:00:34.960 it's one thing to i think i understand what you believe is a canadian is what a canadian is i get
01:00:41.820 it but like you by your own standard you're not canadian so i'm happy so why are you deciding
01:00:49.640 what a canadian is and second what should happen to you like what because technically my wife is
01:00:57.620 half she's half canadian my son would be three quarters if if if i go by what your definition is
01:01:03.340 but what should happen to them this is the part i don't understand because it's fine we can agree
01:01:07.780 to disagree what a canadian is whatever that that that part we can argue and define all we want
01:01:14.100 okay but what do you think should happen to people like you people like my wife people like my son
01:01:20.940 people like jason's family should they stay here should they have to leave do they have do are they
01:01:28.220 not real citizen they don't get to vote that's the part i don't understand like what's the what
01:01:33.660 are we doing with the people that are not really canadian by your definition and to throw a little
01:01:38.940 bit of confusion in there i do want to expand my definition too there daniel my wife is born in
01:01:45.420 nigeria but to lebanese parents third generation lebanese parents so is she lebanese canadian
01:01:52.700 lebanese nigerian canadian like how many hyphens are we throwing in there and if she has to go back
01:01:57.340 to her homeland as you put it is it lebanon where she's never been three generations haven't been
01:02:02.860 there and has no roots there um so i was gonna throw that little monkey wrench in there because
01:02:07.900 i think these nuances matter because this is where people get defensive like i would be defensive if
01:02:12.620 you said my wife has to go back to her homeland well what's her homeland is it nigeria or is it
01:02:18.060 lebanese lebanon can uh using your definition yeah so i mean it's it's hard to break down people's uh
01:02:25.260 ethnicities blindly. I don't know these people. I can just go off the information.
01:02:29.820 That's fair. As I said, we have a 10 step
01:02:33.220 remigration plan and I don't think it would impact either of your
01:02:37.380 families. I'd welcome you and I'd be happy to break it down. It will take
01:02:41.200 I would have to monopolize the call for the next kind of 20 minutes to break
01:02:45.480 down each of these stages because it is a complicated plan. But we offer
01:02:48.900 policies like closing the door, a total moratorium on immigration,
01:02:53.440 uh cutting down birthright citizenship which which is right now an incredibly liberal policy
01:02:58.380 in canada anyone that has a child in canada is given citizenship immediately even if it's to a
01:03:04.020 tourist or an illegal or or any group like that and it's being gamed that we have these anchor
01:03:08.800 babies that are used to chain migrate family members so we believe that we should uh bring
01:03:13.820 canada in line with most western countries around the world and make it so that you have to have at
01:03:17.860 least one parent that's a citizen in order to pass that citizenship on to the child i also think that
01:03:22.920 they should retroactively impose these rules and crack down on anyone who was manipulating the
01:03:27.140 system and taking advantage of birth rate citizenships to bring over citizenships. I
01:03:32.460 believe those should be annulled because they were a game of the system. We believe in rejigging the
01:03:39.100 kind of incentive structures, cutting down on these social programs that are supporting
01:03:44.040 migration that shouldn't be here. Once these taps are turned off, I believe a lot of people will
01:03:49.900 just leave because they're just here to take advantage of free government money um going uh
01:03:56.320 going uh further um we do believe you know in bumping up uh the cbsa and enforcement agencies
01:04:04.060 in order to to go through with mass deportations of these groups um uh like we just don't have the
01:04:10.840 capacity to remove all the illegals in our country right now uh there's somewhere there's like
01:04:14.860 roughly 500 000 illegals according to official estimates there's another 500 000 asylum claim
01:04:19.880 most of which are probably illegitimate uh we we do not have the the capacity to remove these
01:04:25.000 people from the country um so you know there's another uh major concrete step we we believe in
01:04:31.160 putting forward what what is called a voluntary repatriation program this would look like the
01:04:34.920 government offering financial assistance and logistical assistance to to help people return
01:04:39.000 to their country um for example trump did this he offered free plane tickets to people uh to return
01:04:44.920 to their home countries. Other countries have, like Sweden and Denmark, have offered financial
01:04:50.980 incentives to the tune of $10,000 to $20,000 for people to return to their home countries
01:04:57.340 in return for giving up their citizenship. But we also believe in stripping people of
01:05:05.140 permanent residency and even naturalized citizenship in some cases, because there are
01:05:11.040 specifically groups that are compromising Canada's national security and social security.
01:05:18.440 So we see groups, you know, acting in favor of foreign gangs.
01:05:24.740 We see we like the Bishnoi gang, which is an Indian gang that was just named as a terrorist entity in Canada.
01:05:31.040 We see the Chinese Communist Party operating police stations within our border to enforce foreign laws within within our lands.
01:05:41.860 Like, I don't care if these people are permanent residents or if they're citizens, like these people are actively working against Canada's national interest and national security, and they should be stripped of their citizenship and sent back to their countries as a result.
01:05:56.240 So these are the kind of things that I'm looking to address, like these are the kind of groups, criminals, we have this two tier justice system, where criminals who are might have permanent residency or on a track to permanent residency or given lesser sentences, we see two months minus a day in order to see their citizenship or their permanent residency or their track to permanent residency preserved.
01:06:19.800 this is absurd any any person that comes here whether they're on a work permit a study permit
01:06:25.720 or whatnot if they're committing crimes they've proved that they they do not belong in Canadian
01:06:30.660 society and should be sent back so these are the kind of groups that we want to target people who
01:06:36.160 are actively not fitting into Canadian society I'm not looking to break up families and and get
01:06:42.320 rid of people that are integrating effectively into Canadian society like your spouses and your
01:06:48.240 children uh both you nico and jason um these are you know successful stories of of immigration but
01:06:56.160 we have to realize the radical situation that canada's in literally foreign interference
01:07:01.440 foreign gangs uh international crime like uh even petty crime uh you know sexual assaults and and and
01:07:09.440 and uh this uh international kind of auto theft that's going on like there are so many groups
01:07:17.920 massive groups of people that often reside or have roots in very specific handful of countries which
01:07:28.080 source the majority of Canadian immigrants like these are the kind of groups that need to be
01:07:31.760 targeted and re-migrated and as a result we will adjust the demographics of Canada and ensure that
01:07:42.240 Canadians remain the majority in this country but people people get very laser focused on these kind
01:07:50.040 of edge cases like of course there's going to be stipulations put in place so that we're not
01:08:00.240 breaking up families like that's not the the name of the game obviously your spouse is not the the
01:08:06.180 problem in the greater immigration crisis that's going on in Canada and I think it's rather
01:08:11.700 disingenuous to to to assume that that's what we're targeting um i hope that's a better answer
01:08:19.380 i would like to address some of the weird things that uh tiana and jeff kind of threw out there
01:08:23.940 earlier um but i'm happy to to drill down on this one topic if that's not clear for jason and nico
01:08:31.060 okay so i just want to kind of push back just a little bit uh it's not disingenuous when we
01:08:35.380 don't understand so it's very generous uh when i'm asking this question because it's not that
01:08:41.300 i think you're coming after my family i just kind of want to clarify that so on that note just wanted
01:08:46.420 to just respond to that i do want to go to greg and then jeff and the tiana again so we can keep
01:08:51.140 this conversation going uh and when i go to greg i just want to highlight two things just recently
01:08:56.420 the liberal party is pushing out there that they're deporting for 400 people a week which is
01:09:01.940 about 20 000 a year and if uh daniel's numbers are correct 500 000 illegal 500 000 illegitimate let's
01:09:10.100 Let's just use that number for what it is, 1 million.
01:09:12.800 Even if they turned off the tap today,
01:09:15.280 that'd be 50 years to deport that amount of people.
01:09:18.560 So they clearly are not going to be on a schedule
01:09:21.020 that actually makes this happen.
01:09:22.620 And I also want to highlight recently here in Alberta,
01:09:25.000 the Alberta Next panel recommended
01:09:26.640 that Alberta step up its immigration policies
01:09:30.720 to go ahead and remove people
01:09:32.800 that Daniel's talking about.
01:09:35.340 Danielle Smith has announced
01:09:36.660 that she wants to bring this to a referendum to Albertans
01:09:39.280 to go ahead and start enforcing a lot more immigration or de-immigration or re-immigration
01:09:44.960 type of policies to discourage people from coming here, which I'm sure is a couple of the items that
01:09:51.260 Daniel highlighted, for example, cutting off social services to non-citizens. Like that's one of the
01:09:57.080 things that are on the table here in Alberta now. So this is not radical at all. Like your first few
01:10:01.280 items that Daniel listed sounds pretty reasonable. In fact, Canada is starting to do it on a very
01:10:06.460 small scale, and Alberta's talked about doing it on an even larger scale. So with those two things
01:10:11.220 in mind, I'll throw the table to you, Greg. Yeah, I mean, so much has been said, but I guess
01:10:22.780 it's a very common sense thing. Trump has been talking about it. It's a growing movement in
01:10:27.580 Europe. It's like I said, any self-respecting nation is going to promote remigration. It's
01:10:32.140 kind of a no-brainer and yeah respectfully what about what about my wife what about my friend i
01:10:37.380 don't know where no like respectfully i don't know where this insecurity is coming from but
01:10:41.160 let's look at the actual context uh bill c3 recently passed which changed the citizenship
01:10:46.540 laws and they gave any naturalized citizen now they can give their offspring uh canadian
01:10:53.480 citizenship even if they don't haven't been here even if they don't uh speak english even if there's
01:10:58.360 no background checks. Right now, the powers that be are changing, circumscribing the definition
01:11:05.940 of a Canadian to create a bunch of people in India now being Canadian citizens. They can now
01:11:11.680 come and take advantage of our healthcare system, all of our social services. Who knows how it could
01:11:17.000 be scammed? That just happened a few weeks ago. That's outrageous. Everyone should be outraged
01:11:22.840 by that. That's the context we're in. And as Daniel was saying, like the political will to
01:11:30.240 deport illegals, to deport criminals, terrorists, like that doesn't exist in Canada right now.
01:11:37.080 It's because we don't have a political climate where Canadians respect themselves and respect
01:11:43.080 the actual nation of Canadians. So we've talked about remigration. We've talked about what a
01:11:48.280 Canadian is. But the sort of like vibe and undertone of Dominion society is Canadians
01:11:53.360 need to respect themselves. Or if you're an immigrant to Canada or citizen, you want people
01:11:58.440 to respect the Canadian people, the Canadian nation to, you know, be it to be an actual
01:12:04.860 country that where people respect the laws. Because right now, that's not the case. Right
01:12:08.220 now, we're getting, you know, dominated by all sorts of foreign groups, foreign ethnic
01:12:13.900 groups, foreign religious groups who are applying pressure to Ottawa in various ways. We
01:12:18.140 saw uh someone cross the floor from the conservative party i can't believe the guy that looks like a
01:12:23.260 chinese spy across the floor you know what what are his interests for the conservative party for
01:12:27.900 conservative values or is this something that's maybe interest in china i don't know but um like
01:12:33.660 like this is this is an ongoing problem of foreign interference we only hear a tiny bit about it
01:12:39.180 tiny bit about it in the news who knows how bad it actually is and you know just to kind of address
01:12:46.940 the civic nationalists who might say well you know anyone who has a canadian citizenship i'm
01:12:51.740 a canadian citizen too we're all one happy big family blah blah blah you know that doesn't
01:12:56.300 really work because if you know if if a indian national comes and they have their interest of
01:13:05.580 helping indians they're going to obviously raise their hand and be like of course i'm a canadian
01:13:09.580 citizen i'm a canadian citizen just like you and then they're gonna get closer to levers of power
01:13:14.380 in the house of commons and then they're going to circumscribe the rules to benefit
01:13:18.620 indians and now there's a hundred thousand more people who are now canadian citizens you
01:13:22.860 see how that works like we need to stop being naive and kind of part of the undertone message
01:13:28.220 or sort of uh consequence of dominion society is we kind of need to canadians need to take their
01:13:33.580 own side and we need to start by defining you know what a canadian is or the very least people
01:13:38.540 who are here who respect that and want to maintain that because there's a reason many immigrants
01:13:43.740 came here. There's a reason a lot of people came here and enjoyed Canada. If you can appreciate
01:13:48.360 that, and if you want to protect that, then it would only make sense to support the Dominican
01:13:53.520 Society in our remigration plan. Because if you look at it, like Daniel said, it's not based on
01:13:58.860 race. It's based on the most recent damage done by Trudeau. There's also kind of like an undertone
01:14:06.400 of Trudeau Senior of things that we would also want to clean up in a way, especially kind of
01:14:10.420 like philosophically in terms of liberalism that we've all accepted. But yeah, it's almost more
01:14:17.440 based on recency, like who gets targeted first. It's the most recent damage. We've all seen the
01:14:23.360 graph of how much, how many people we've welcomed into this country. Like that's kind of the obvious
01:14:29.280 damage that I think everyone wants to address. And I did make a video kind of addressing the
01:14:34.500 haters of Dominion Society. And I asked three simple questions. Number one, would you agree
01:14:40.580 that Trudeau has helped radically transform this country with the kind of radical multiculturalism
01:14:47.660 and the mass immigration? Yes. Okay. Do you want it? Question number two, do you want a solution
01:14:53.560 to that problem? Okay. Assuming it's yes. Is actually presenting a solution, is that racist?
01:15:01.080 because we're presenting a solution at dominion society and everyone everyone's trying to call it
01:15:05.520 racist or trying to call us authoritarians and it's like okay so i guess we're not going to solve
01:15:09.760 the problem then right but uh you know i'm excited because dominion society is new and we're kind of
01:15:15.180 going through this kind of like kind of butting heads with people who are kind of flailing around
01:15:19.440 oh my god is my wife going to be deported but like you know we're happy to have these conversations
01:15:23.460 and kind of quell any concerns but i think it's going to we're going to see this uh you know
01:15:27.960 pick up in popularity as uh as you were saying jason yeah and the and i can speak for myself on
01:15:34.740 this one the insecurity comes from lack of information and understanding and that's why
01:15:39.980 we do these kind of shows and this is why i appreciate you guys coming on to help break it
01:15:44.740 down and explain it just sorry just to push back on that like you know daniel doesn't have the power
01:15:52.260 to deport anybody i don't have the power to deport anybody more likely in the actual canada like
01:15:59.300 environment we're in we're more likely to get charged with hate speech or something
01:16:03.540 for even talking about this stuff like like if we're going to be honest about the situation we're
01:16:07.940 in you know what i mean like yeah i don't know why i think it's a little yeah and i certainly
01:16:13.140 don't think that you guys are going to be the ones that pull up the boats and fill it up and
01:16:16.740 ship it off but your entire mission is to drive conversation to drive policy to drive results
01:16:22.980 so there is a clear path to that happening but you specifically won't be the ones doing it
01:16:28.180 but pushing that idea forward which could turn into policy which can turn into action
01:16:34.180 it's not just the policy it's to build the self-respect of canadians to build the political
01:16:38.980 will to be like yeah we should be immediately deporting criminals we should be immediately
01:16:43.300 uh deporting people who are here illegally because right now i'm sorry and we've seen it on the call
01:16:48.560 already there's a sort of attitude of like well we can't we still can't defend we can't offend any
01:16:53.720 immigrants we can't offend any foreign groups and it's like that needs to die guys oh hold on hold
01:16:59.020 on great yeah yeah who said that oh i i kind of i kind of said that i kind of said that so i'm
01:17:04.700 actually going to agree with him on that one because what i said is it's it's difficult when
01:17:09.500 they feel isolated and how do we talk to them so they don't feel isolated so i actually did say
01:17:14.960 that um but that wasn't kind of what i meant though i i meant i i think it's important to
01:17:19.980 still be able to talk to them so and that's why i wanted to highlight my insecurity which was due
01:17:25.200 to a lack of information and that's why this conversation is important so hopefully i sure
01:17:29.240 i address that but hold on i just want to push back a tiny bit here because it has my question
01:17:33.860 has nothing to do in securities i'm trying to understand that's it it's plain and simple i'm
01:17:38.160 fact-based person i want to understand what people think before i can make my opinion known or base
01:17:44.720 my opinion on something there's no better than the two founders of an organization to answer
01:17:49.360 questions right i don't think we could have picked the two best people to answer this so i will ask
01:17:53.760 questions but it has nothing to do with insecurities because at the end of the day man i agree with
01:17:58.560 most of the stuff you guys are talking about if you commit a crime you should get the out of here
01:18:03.120 if you're leeching off the system get the fuck out of here i think we agree on a probably 80
01:18:08.560 or 90 of of your platform i probably agree with the only part that i wanted definition is what
01:18:14.960 i asked for because we can't say that it's an irrelevant conversation two people out of six
01:18:19.840 right now on this single panel are in the situation that i was describing so brushing
01:18:25.440 it off like it's irrelevant it's not irrelevant because again i agree with you guys that probably
01:18:30.320 80 of what you guys say i'll just throw 80 out there but i probably agree with 80 of what you
01:18:35.440 guys believe in because i've been talking about this for years too i'm just not affiliated it's
01:18:40.080 just my personal opinion and immigration should work in the favor of canada not the other way
01:18:44.240 around it's not our job to become a third world country because that's what happens when you
01:18:48.960 import a third world country you become a third world country and that's what the we're seeing
01:18:53.280 right now you cannot have open borders and be a social welfare state at the same time it does
01:18:58.480 not work and canada is the perfect example for this so that's why i was asking those questions
01:19:03.440 and i'm sure this is a question that other people are asking so let's not call them irrelevant or
01:19:08.560 try to brush them off they're legitimate questions but i'll shut up on that point and just jason you
01:19:14.640 can go to the next one that was all all i wanted to add to that yeah yeah to defend greg and i
01:19:21.760 just a little bit i was about to it does seem like you guys are kind of implying that we have some
01:19:26.400 sort of hidden agenda and we've been very clear from i was applying that and i wasn't actually
01:19:32.160 daniel again i wasn't i was asking the question because i wasn't i don't know you guys so i'm
01:19:37.360 asking a question but even like i i responded to jason's question i very clearly said we were
01:19:41.680 not interested in deporting his wife and then you said i don't understand are you going to deport
01:19:46.320 my wife and like obviously this is going to apply to both of you and like we've been very focused
01:19:50.720 since since since i defined remigration at the start of this call like i've been very clear that
01:19:55.440 we're talking about people that are uh criminals and illegals and asylum claimants and people
01:20:02.880 leeching off the system and people actively working against our national security and social cohesion
01:20:07.680 and like very obviously i mean i don't know your your wives but i i can safely assume that
01:20:14.800 they don't fall into any of the groups that i'm saying and there's no hidden agenda our whole
01:20:19.360 agendas on our website and just to address jeff like and tiana like you guys are talking about
01:20:26.480 you guys are like shadow boxing against people that aren't in this call like you're you bring
01:20:31.280 up alex trans splendor no i brought up crack he's not here to defend himself why attack him
01:20:36.400 um you keep bringing up everyone's obsessed with jews the only people who have brought up jews on
01:20:41.200 this call are tiana and jeff not the dominions have you read the comment section have you read
01:20:46.640 your own comment section maybe you should and then you're gonna realize where that came from
01:20:50.800 i'm busy on this call i am very like very clearly you guys are the ones that are obsessed with
01:20:57.360 israel and jews also he likes dick in his ass josiah likes dick in his ass i'll get to you
01:21:06.400 guys in a moment don't let them drag you into their tiana i pointed to honestly all of them
01:21:12.800 like fuck all of these guys who like listen to this shit it's like an old like a closed chamber
01:21:17.600 thing with a bunch of retards and yeah it's kind of annoying you know what i mean
01:21:23.680 there's a reason there's a reason why we didn't put the comments on the screen
01:21:27.200 it's because those don't represent the people on this screen uh if i could turn off comments
01:21:32.480 for all of us i would because the conversation's here jeff says that he thinks we have a secret
01:21:38.320 agenda or something well i'm just next so i'm just gonna let daniel tie that up and then we're going
01:21:43.200 to jeff to respond to that because it's fair because jeff did bring up greg and jeff did say
01:21:47.520 there was a secret agenda so we'll get to jeff right next daniel can you tie up what you're
01:21:51.280 finishing there yeah yeah i think that's a that's pretty much it like i i would appreciate if we
01:21:57.360 discuss the people like our platform and our ideas not just uh jumping off to random anons
01:22:04.240 in the comment section who are often awful in all sorts of different ways i'm sure we all
01:22:08.080 experience this in different axes um but if if we are pivoting to jeff next i'd really appreciate
01:22:14.800 if he could define terms like wokeness uh woke right if or i guess you said you don't like it
01:22:20.880 no no what writes out now it's griper now that's the yeah griper like i don't know i'm i'm really
01:22:26.160 not sure what a lot of these terms would mean because they're used so broadly like i see i see
01:22:31.680 wokeness personally i see it as just a kind of now a basket term of like everything that the kind of
01:22:38.720 right disagrees with like climate change is thrown in there and and transgender stuff is thrown in
01:22:43.920 there and uh some immigration stuff is like i don't see it as a coherent thing so people just
01:22:48.960 like i don't so please be clear about what you mean when you're talking about woke right or
01:22:53.440 wokeness in general and then what what are gripers like i know they're supporters of
01:22:57.920 nick fuentes but are they is that a political ideology to you like i don't you you say like
01:23:02.640 the ppc is infested with groypers like i don't i don't think alex cargo is a growth griper like he
01:23:08.720 i've seen him criticize nick fuentes and talk about how he doesn't like him so like i is is
01:23:15.040 is alex cargo a griper in your in your image hold on imagine a retard like a fight between
01:23:23.920 a bunch of like influencers and then alex being like i'm so woke i'm going to like put my opinion
01:23:30.320 in on which you know influence they're all trying to distract you from the real problem which is
01:23:36.560 digital ids and the elites trying to basically put you into a digital prison and you guys are
01:23:43.760 all gonna fight each other over skin color over religion over who's more canadian what does a
01:23:48.560 canadian mean you are all going to get imprisoned by the digital id and the elites through cbdcs
01:23:55.520 and ubi and that's what i'm trying to say is everybody's fighting everyone's fighting like
01:24:02.640 exactly some people are trying to fight retardation and we're all going to get
01:24:07.360 by digital id cbdcs and these elites and we're going to get in prison and that's what i'm
01:24:13.200 frustrated with no one gives a what a canadian what an american what a european means we are
01:24:18.880 all going to get bent over and we're going to get by digital id cbdc's ubi and that's what i'm
01:24:24.640 trying to say yes i'm not born in canada you guys are probably way more canadian than i am
01:24:29.600 but i'm trying to warn the retards even in the comment section these inbred that
01:24:35.440 we are literally all going to get in prison they're going to use these illegal immigrants
01:24:39.520 to put in digital id so they can be like oh we don't know who's a real canadian and who's like
01:24:43.680 a immigrant well you can kind of tell like via skin color but that's not what's gonna happen
01:24:49.520 we're all going to get imprisoned by digital id ubi's and cbdc's and that's what i'm trying to
01:24:55.440 like get everybody to like and everyone's like oh you're so emotional oh my god oh my god it's
01:25:01.200 a woman getting all loud you your inbred mouth your mom whoever had you the best part
01:25:07.040 of you ran down your mom's leg i don't even give a anymore we are all going to get in prison the
01:25:12.400 same so listen up everybody white brown black purple i don't give a try and
01:25:19.120 see through the that is going to happen that is all i'm trying to say i
01:25:24.240 i don't even give a i'll go out and live in out in the middle of the woods i'm used to camping
01:25:28.320 i don't give a most of these losers out here are like oh my god quit yelling my
01:25:34.000 sensitive canadian ears you man you and your beliefs we are all going to get
01:25:41.200 imprisoned by the digital ai gods anyway we don't think the driving problems in society
01:25:49.600 or digital id in in this whole narrative we think that as greg put it at the beginning of the call
01:25:55.600 the existential problem with the canadian nation is mass immigration and we believe that's the
01:25:59.680 number one issue so you see a problem with us getting organized around a set of ideas that you
01:26:05.520 think is not the priority that's fine this is a panel on a discussion on re-migration so i maybe
01:26:12.080 like you're this isn't a great topic for for you because we just fundamentally disagree on
01:26:16.960 on the priorities here like i i think immigration well let me just get in here because i will come
01:26:22.480 to you guys yeah i will come to you i promise uh nico we're gonna have to do an episode on
01:26:26.960 who's the real enemy because she brought up a lot of good concerns there and i think that
01:26:31.680 will be another good panel and i believe tiana will join because she definitely oh i will can
01:26:36.000 i just say lee stavey is a loser anyway don't even know who that is um and i absolutely think that
01:26:43.600 what i'm going to try to do is bring us back to the re-migration because i want to get to jeff
01:26:46.960 uh because jeff and one of the happy things that we're having here is some of the conversations
01:26:51.840 jeff wants to have is with the people here so i want to kind of get back to that in our last half
01:26:55.920 an hour but i do think we should have a who is the real enemy show so if you're watching now stay
01:27:01.280 tuned because uh we're gonna get into that one which one good digital ids wf yada yada yada all
01:27:06.480 that stuff too uh jeff all right so you kind of been called out a little bit here on and asked
01:27:11.760 what the definition you brought to the table means and to kind of open that up and as you've been
01:27:17.040 very patient so let's throw it to you never uh there jeff um yeah so so first of all let me
01:27:22.800 clarify like uh i threw out a bunch of terms there because those are terms that are kind of floating
01:27:27.120 around um in the zeitgeist but the term that i use is residually woke i don't think that woke right
01:27:33.760 is a good term at all because uh um like i said i mean the woke are collectivist totalitarian
01:27:41.440 and uh marxist so there's nothing right wing about them it's it's an oxymoronic term i think what
01:27:47.520 what we're dealing with do you think collectivism is always bad yeah yeah i do i think always yes
01:27:53.860 yeah i do okay um yeah i think that it really uh appeals to the darker elements of human nature
01:28:00.480 especially tribalism and that is probably something that we should overcome um and uh you know
01:28:06.740 politics is tribal by nature um i'd refer you to a book by amy chua called political tribes
01:28:16.180 and it is how how communists end up defeating us really it's what happened in venezuela in venezuela
01:28:24.820 i mean they play the identity politics with hugo chavez because there's a white economic economically
01:28:31.940 dominant minority in venezuela and people tend to abhor tribes broadly tend to abhor market
01:28:39.620 dominant minorities like say for example the jews um and uh so they they used uh race um hugo
01:28:47.700 chavez being i think part black park and part indigenous and a lot of people in uh in venezuela
01:28:53.300 were so they uh he would get up on stage and he would say like my skin is brown and my lips are
01:28:57.780 big and and people would just kind of relate to that and it re-tribalizes things and and now
01:29:02.100 Now it's a communist shithole in Venezuela.
01:29:05.620 So I think that identity politics is, well, I'm against identity politics.
01:29:12.580 And I think that therein lies damnation when we start embracing this stuff.
01:29:16.540 And so that's what concerns me, I guess, when I see something like Dominion Society,
01:29:19.660 is if we're embracing identity politics.
01:29:21.620 I don't know.
01:29:23.380 You haven't said that you are.
01:29:24.680 But, you know, if that's the route that we're going, I'd say therein lies damnation.
01:29:28.980 like uh you know we uh we got to rise above it um and uh and and that's how we win and in terms of
01:29:36.740 you know how we separate wheat from chaff um you know i like profiles in afghanistan we call them
01:29:42.580 fans fighting age males that's what we were looking for and uh i i would say that if we're going to
01:29:47.860 profile you know the good ones and the bad ones are where we need to start um it would be i make
01:29:53.140 the distinction between mass immigration and managed immigration uh there were a lot of years
01:29:57.860 when you know a little bit immigration was uh working well um but it has to be very carefully
01:30:04.180 managed especially when we're dealing with problematic populations um and uh you know i
01:30:09.620 don't know i make a lot of uh i do talk about race by the way i talk about a lot of differences
01:30:14.340 between races because when we're talking about massive populations we need to look at trends
01:30:19.700 and we need to look at those kinds of trends for things like profiling when we're bringing people
01:30:24.180 into the country um so that's a matter of national security but once we get people into the country
01:30:29.540 we can kind of dispense with all that stuff and go on with the uh overcoming tribalism um and leading
01:30:35.620 the way to the next stage of the enlightenment so um and in terms of the the woke uh residual
01:30:42.100 wokeness is the term that uh that i use um you know not that anybody knows what it is or anything
01:30:48.100 like that but yeah i disagree with james lindsay on a few things um so it's a maybe a little too
01:30:53.220 nuance for this conversation but uh obviously woke right is is uh is a um an oxymoronic term
01:30:59.940 and i think a lot of people that are finding say the ppc for example uh are basically leftists that
01:31:05.540 were just against the mandates and so they're dragging a lot of uh marxist baggage with them
01:31:10.260 and and that is kind of the key to uh to wellness is that it is marked marxist it's culturally
01:31:15.460 marxist um so i would say that the uh put it simply like i did a whole tweet thread on this
01:31:21.300 or a few of them or something so um but to put it simply i i would say that the woke writer
01:31:26.260 analogous to third wave feminists it's just that you replace um you replace the global patriarchy
01:31:33.140 with uh zionists and uh women with the white man and you have um you know the woke right for for
01:31:42.820 lack of a better term the residual woke um and they lead with a sense of victimhood and it's
01:31:48.260 it's a matter of this oppressor versus oppressed uh dichotomy and um it's it's it's fundamentally
01:31:54.740 marxists uh through and through so uh those are the guys and they engage in the cancel culture
01:32:00.020 and the witch hunts and they deploy a lot of the woke tactics with the darvo and the gas lighting
01:32:06.020 and and stuff like this so um you know we could we could go on and on about uh tactics and nuance but
01:32:12.260 um what what i would say really kind of defines wokeness is the cultural marxism
01:32:17.300 and by the way i i mean i was look that's not my term that's just in terms that are out there i
01:32:23.900 was saying whatever you want to call it um you know i'm talking about cultural marxists um but
01:32:30.560 i say residually woke i hear other people saying griper it's it's not really um um something that
01:32:36.740 i i use a lot uh you know i think it's kind of a funny term i might throw it around in a kind of
01:32:41.420 in a funny way but if we're talking about this like seriously i would say residually woke is a
01:32:46.020 better term okay so fair enough so uh daniel did that answer your question and greg i will come to
01:32:52.340 you right after daniel no i think that frames it uh much better um and like i i i'm happy to like
01:33:01.140 i think this kind of gets down to the the fundamental disagreement uh that jeff and i have
01:33:06.340 uh we haven't spoke a lot i've uh seen some clips of you talking about uh me and the dominion society
01:33:12.180 some other some other people um but it seems that by and large jeff and i agree on most policy on
01:33:22.660 this topic we could go we could kind of hammer into the brass tacks point by point of our
01:33:28.340 remigration plan um but uh listening to jeff now and i've heard him i follow him on twitter and
01:33:36.420 I've seen him talk otherwise. I think we'd agree 80-90% of the way through. I think the biggest
01:33:44.180 disagreement that we have is definitely philosophical and it does come down to this
01:33:49.700 this kind of collectivist versus individualist philosophy and I do consider myself an
01:33:56.500 identitarian. I do consider myself a collectivist and I think that engaging in politics
01:34:06.420 people like Jeff, I find come from a very idealistic perspective. I think he even kind of got to it in his previous statement, where he said, we need to go further towards enlightenment. And to do so, we must be
01:34:21.980 uh the implication being we must be individualist we must be universalist
01:34:26.500 um and that's just like i that's not how i see politics working in practice in practice
01:34:32.180 democracy is very much in uh an exercise in competing collectives uh to see who can win
01:34:39.380 uh those collectives form into political parties they form into to advocacy groups uh around
01:34:45.400 different lines in order to push different sets of ideas um and i think operating from a kind
01:34:51.460 of individualist philosophy is just a losing position. Even if you think that's the best
01:34:59.960 in a kind of utopian idealist sense, that everything is equal behind the veil of ignorance
01:35:06.080 or whatnot, the reality is the individualist is always going to lose to the other groups
01:35:12.920 that are willing to act as collectives. And that's really been a fundamental problem that's
01:35:17.840 led to the transformation of canadian society canadians heritage canadians are very individualist
01:35:24.240 by nature and as a result as we imported more people as we allowed them to maintain their
01:35:29.840 foreign languages and foreign religions through this state-enforced multiculturalism we created
01:35:34.720 these massive voting blocks that act in in more collectivist natures a lot of them come from
01:35:41.360 countries where where collectivism is the is the standard kind of organizing philosophy
01:35:46.720 and as a result we've been completely overwhelmed by by these more organized voting blocs and we
01:35:52.480 see this through registered you know lobbying groups through advocacy groups um how they
01:35:58.000 infiltrate uh they practice entryism into into political parties um like we've seen the kind of
01:36:03.520 calistan movement do um all of these things the world seek organization their infiltration in
01:36:08.720 the conservative party and so on the the reality of the situation is uh collectivism will always
01:36:14.800 defeat individualism so we need to get organized and we need to collectivize in order to stop our
01:36:20.880 society from slipping away and transforming further because really it's the next kind of
01:36:25.760 five to fifteen years that are critical or else can the can the nation can to the people is
01:36:31.760 quickly going to to disappear um because without re-migration we're going to be a minority in this
01:36:37.520 country um within the next decade um and only getting smaller and smaller um so unless we get
01:36:45.120 organized unless we normalize these ideas of nationalism of remigration and force them to be
01:36:50.960 adopted by political parties and to protect the ethnic continuity of the canadian people within
01:36:57.360 our homelands uh it's just not going to be a starter so you can you can try and do this by
01:37:02.080 pushing kind of individualism but like i i think that fails to address this bedrock issue because
01:37:08.720 really liberalism this philosophically results in a justification of multiculturalism results in a
01:37:16.400 justification of mass immigration because it views people from a universalist perspective
01:37:22.080 it views you know people as interchangeable economic units um that's not how i view things
01:37:28.160 i view things in a more hierarchical fashion a more exclusionary fashion where not anyone can
01:37:33.280 be a canadian where we need to protect uh distinct canadian interests um so i really do think that's
01:37:39.520 the kind of core of the disagreement between between jeff and i um this kind of uh and then
01:37:46.080 like you're on the left i'm not on the left i'm definitely i consider myself if you're a
01:37:50.720 collectivist you're on the left that's the fundamental difference the left is collectivist
01:37:54.160 the right is individualist um is literally what i was about to get at because really if we're being
01:38:00.000 uh philosophically thorough uh the the political spectrum is not just a line right it's a series of
01:38:06.720 axes competing and you can take things on just the individualist to collectivist uh axes but
01:38:14.320 i think the far more important philosophical axes is universalism to hierarchy egalitarianism to
01:38:20.320 hierarchy um with egalitarianism being on the left and hierarchy being on the right and from
01:38:25.920 my perspective jeff you're actually a leftist you're the liberal um because you accept this
01:38:31.760 egalitarian universalism you accept liberalism i was in the military for 20 years i definitely
01:38:37.120 endorse hierarchy philosophical disagreement is between left liberals and right liberals this is
01:38:41.520 the the post-war consensus right liberalism won the day and since then all philosophical
01:38:47.280 discussions have been between left liberals and right liberals that's why i don't think pierre
01:38:50.560 paulioff's a conservative i think he's a liberal he's a right liberal uh carney and in the lib uh
01:38:56.320 the capital liberals are the are the left liberals but i see you as a left liberal i don't see you as
01:39:01.600 a con as on the right really because you don't you're not willing to to grapple with the far
01:39:07.120 more important philosophical distinction which is between egalitarianism and hierarchy right but i
01:39:12.400 I am. Let's go to Jeff on that one. Yeah, I do endorse hierarchy. Like I never, I never said
01:39:18.480 otherwise. I was in the military for 20 years. And this is, I mean, we're a social hierarchical
01:39:24.760 primate species. This is how we're best suited to function. And, you know, there's a disparity
01:39:34.760 of iq across populations so uh we we need to build hierarchies that um you know appeal to the better
01:39:44.040 better range of better angels of our nature and uh you know uh let the most capable people rise
01:39:51.880 to the top like there's there's nothing i find to be incompatible with individualism in that regard
01:39:57.960 or even being um you know on a team as you're saying like i can be a team player but still an
01:40:03.880 individualist politically and we we do need to organize certainly but that doesn't mean that
01:40:11.240 i abandon my individualist principles namely that i would i would promote individual rights first i
01:40:18.840 favor individual rights not collective rights because when we adopt collective rights as we
01:40:24.920 have on you know in the trudeau years and perhaps a little bit before that we tend to re-tribalize
01:40:30.920 as a society and it drives balkanization um so uh i would i would say that the best way to protect
01:40:38.120 the group is to protect every individual within it um and we're all better off um we're taking
01:40:44.440 that approach because when you're in a collective you're either an asset or a liability to the
01:40:50.360 collective and that that's why i say so you can't you can you know the the extreme left is
01:40:56.440 totalitarian the extreme collectivist is is totalitarian um and uh the uh the you know you
01:41:04.760 will either uh conform or be rush run roughshod over or cast out witch hunted this this kind of
01:41:11.880 thing so um i don't find that that uh leads to uh better outcomes for humans um you know we've seen
01:41:19.960 collectivism in the form of communism uh give us the bloodbath of the 20th century and beyond
01:41:26.440 Um, so, uh, the, I think, um, the more we stay away from that, uh, the, the better off, um, you know, the better outcomes we can expect for humans and, and also like, so what is, what is the deal? Why the fixation on Israel? Cause I did, you said that I was obsessed with Jews because I brought up a video where Greg was talking about Jews. I'm not.
01:41:48.420 So let's go to Greg on that one, because I think that's fair.
01:41:51.500 And the only thing that comes to mind on this is there's no I in team, but there is an I in win.
01:41:55.960 Greg, go ahead.
01:41:57.120 He asked what the fixation on Israel is.
01:41:59.760 I don't know what tweet you're referring to, but I'll talk about collectivism and then get to that topic in a second.
01:42:06.720 I guess I'm curious, like, when it comes to something like the Trucker Convoy, for example,
01:42:11.060 one of the only reasons that was successful is because they collectivized around opposing mandates, right?
01:42:17.600 They organized.
01:42:19.860 Right.
01:42:21.680 And then there were people who came to the fore who had a little bit more...
01:42:25.040 Maybe I don't necessarily disagree where collectivism can be bad,
01:42:29.880 but if you look at the pitiful situation of Canada,
01:42:32.920 it's because collectivized groups are out-competing the actual Canadian people.
01:42:38.780 I kind of alluded to it earlier.
01:42:41.220 Different foreign ethnic groups, Daniel alluded to it,
01:42:43.920 the World Seek Organization.
01:42:45.160 There's plenty of different foreign kind of organizations who are asserting their influence on the political landscape and they're being effective.
01:42:53.500 So it's like if we continue to tell ourselves that collectivism will never work, it's like, well, it's working for these groups, actually to the detriment of the collective of Canadian people who have been here.
01:43:04.040 So it's like it's kind of like shooting yourself in the foot if you keep telling yourself that collectivism is never going to work.
01:43:10.220 And on that note, I actually really admire Zionists.
01:43:13.360 they are one probably the best one of the best at collectivizing to to accomplish their goals
01:43:20.200 you know they the jews look out for jews there's the world uh world jewish congress you got
01:43:26.380 sieja in canada you know they are looking out for the interests of jews and for for that in
01:43:32.080 israel and abroad like they are very much collectivists are they not i don't know and i
01:43:36.540 would i would you know it's not not a i dig at them i think they're actually very effective at
01:43:41.120 and that's kind of what i want for canadians i want the same kind of attitude for canadians like
01:43:45.360 if you look at the immigration laws in israel it's very hard to immigrate to israel
01:43:49.280 if you look at the uh the parliament in israel there's no dual citizenships allowed in in the
01:43:54.000 parliament you cannot be a parliamentarian or a you know politician in israel if you have two
01:43:59.600 passports we allow that in canada and uh you know we've talked enough about foreign interference
01:44:05.280 already but that kind of like attitude of uh of the jewish people and they're kind of i think
01:44:10.400 collectivizing is actually something that's really served them and uh for them to kind of accomplish
01:44:14.320 their goals of like i said earlier the self-love the self-preservation the self-respect and i think
01:44:19.240 that i simply just want that for the canadian people okay so jeff what i'm hearing there and
01:44:24.660 correct me if i'm wrong greg but it's not a it's not demonizing israel in any way shape or form
01:44:30.040 it's actually using them as an example of a group that's doing something that's similar to what
01:44:34.120 they're talking about here but not i quickly look back at my tweets uh trying to look for what you
01:44:40.840 were talking about and my number one of my responses is so if i'm not on my knees worshiping
01:44:46.220 jews then i must be on my knees worshiping palestinians so it's like it looks like you
01:44:50.780 were doing the thing where i criticize israel or zionism in some way and then you accuse me
01:44:55.220 of being a hamas supporter which is like no i think he meant your video responding to wyatt
01:45:00.020 Claypool? No, I don't know if it was Wyatt Claypool, or I don't think so. I think it was just a
01:45:06.740 promotional video for Dominion Society, and you used Israel as an example of an ethnostate.
01:45:15.800 Paul, are you promoting ethnostate? Hold on. Yeah, I remember that. That's also one of the most well-known
01:45:21.820 ones, right? So when you're talking to a mass of people, you can't say Japan. The people don't
01:45:26.120 really understand that. They don't know. So maybe as an example, because it's most well-known.
01:45:31.080 Yes, this was the 1BC video. So, you know, the 1BC party kind of like imploded or exploded or
01:45:39.140 something. Around this issue. So yeah, sort of around this issue. And something that Brody said
01:45:44.880 was along the lines of, I don't want that like ethno-nationalism stuff. That's not me. And she
01:45:51.980 has supported israel in the past and it's known that the chief of staff uh at the time right
01:45:58.160 before the the party exploded why claypool he's an open zionist there's another zionist
01:46:02.660 and it's like okay so zionism is that not ethno nationalism for a foreign country in israel
01:46:07.700 so it's like 1bc is allowed to uh be an ethno nationalist for a foreign country but you can't
01:46:12.760 be an ethno nationalist for canada where you live where where your political party operates
01:46:18.460 Isn't that kind of weird?
01:46:21.060 Okay, so I remember that post because I had Daniel Brody on right before.
01:46:25.400 No, but I want to hear Jeff's response to that.
01:46:27.380 Yeah, I'm sending it to Jeff right now because I remember that.
01:46:30.340 I guess it all depends on whether you believe the Holocaust happened or not.
01:46:34.500 Yeah.
01:46:35.540 What?
01:46:36.960 Yeah, I mean.
01:46:39.000 What?
01:46:40.180 Yeah.
01:46:42.620 I think we shifted gears quickly there, Jeff.
01:46:45.940 I'm not sure if that's what he was saying.
01:46:48.020 Well, I think what I'm saying is the reason you ran out of cards, you had to play the reason that they established.
01:47:01.300 So I can't hear you. Oh, shit. Pardon me. Sorry. Continue.
01:47:06.480 Well, that's what I'm saying. The reason why they started an ethno state in Israel.
01:47:10.720 And by the way, there are like two million Arabs who live in Israel as well.
01:47:13.560 but the reason why they established a jewish state was because they'd been driven out of
01:47:18.520 everywhere else and that wasn't really the case for i guess what you guys are calling ethnic
01:47:24.200 canadians what is it heritage canadians i don't know um so uh and and you know i know that uh
01:47:31.400 essentially just looking around i'd say i can't say i blame them because a lot of people are
01:47:36.760 going to need a fallback position um if uh certain current trends continue um you know i mean we have
01:47:43.720 hamas taken over the streets and it seems like uh an awful lot of canadians are turning on jews
01:47:48.840 um so they need a uh somewhere to retreat to um and uh you know so there was a kind of a bona fide
01:47:57.960 occupational requirement um for uh for that in the first place well with that in mind um i don't know
01:48:04.840 know if you know anyone who like works for CJA the you know Canadian Institute for Jewish Affairs
01:48:08.980 but like like why wouldn't they support something like re-migration because as you're saying like
01:48:13.420 you know infiltrating with probably anti-Semites like why wouldn't they want to promote re-migration
01:48:18.400 with us to help with that because like if that's such a concern well probably because uh they're
01:48:24.100 uh pretty woke um you know they tend to favor immigration policies as far as I know um but uh
01:48:31.060 that that seems to be you know the ideology that's run shot through like all uh an awful lot
01:48:36.500 of institutions it's not just seizure i mean uh we could talk about the university or i don't know
01:48:42.340 maybe cbsa for that matter um so this seems to be widespread and i i guess that's what i find so
01:48:49.620 curious about this fixation with israel and the jews like how does it fit in to like you know why
01:48:56.420 why would uh why would you go right now can i ask daniel sorry because i because i'm kind of lost
01:49:01.940 now yeah like he's saying like literally we're responding to jeff i'm not seeing the fixation
01:49:09.940 that you're talking about uh including their website and i'm not defending them i'm just
01:49:13.940 trying to compute what's being said here i'm not seeing a fixation on jews and maybe i'm missing it
01:49:18.980 because all i've seen so far is a comparison on how they do things there should be how we do things
01:49:24.820 here is kind of the comparison being made but i'm not seeing a derogatory or a fixation on it
01:49:29.780 did i miss that part i would like jeff to answer that one yeah yeah it was uh when i mentioned
01:49:34.260 greg's tweet when he was talking about foreign interference um from from israel so okay so we
01:49:42.020 have a fixation on jews because once greg made a video responding to people who publicly described
01:49:48.340 themselves as zionists calling out a kind of a double standard that they were presenting
01:49:53.380 and this one tweet compromises our organization for having a fixation on jews is it's a very well
01:49:59.620 how about we clear the record here daniel is there a fixation on jewish people zionist or
01:50:04.660 anything like that on your platform no no no jews are not referenced in any ways they're really not
01:50:11.060 a focus um and i think that they're much more uh a focus for for uh like american commentators i
01:50:19.060 don't think jews are uh even as an organized voting bloc are are uh nearly as problematic in
01:50:25.860 canada as others like i i think uh probably like groups like organized calistanis uh organized
01:50:32.820 muslims are are much uh larger muslims or islamics sure um yes uh but like even the state policy of
01:50:44.260 canada right now is to recognize palestine like you can you can see that jewish influence even
01:50:49.380 within the canadian state is is not particularly significant it's not a big concern for canadian
01:50:56.020 nationalists or or or our organization it does seem to be a big focus for for jeff i'm not sure why um
01:51:06.980 maybe he's looking for clarification around that because like he no i i wasn't
01:51:14.260 i was just kind of saying like it seems like we're overlooking the fact that druz were
01:51:18.660 were programmed like all over europe and in russia and there was but that wasn't a subject matter
01:51:23.460 though no i know why why is there an ethno state in israel i mean that's why no i don't think they
01:51:29.380 were saying i'm really asking why they were asking why can they do one but we can't but
01:51:34.420 the ethnostate portion of it that was why did i miss that no i i get it and dominion society's
01:51:41.140 why for canada is well we're being erased we lose our identity so why we're going to become a minority
01:51:46.180 in this country within the next 10 years unless we transform our immigration policy and and really
01:51:50.980 change our our philosophy generally generally because right now the the countervailing philosophy
01:51:56.580 in canada is like a canadian is a canadian is a canadian the justin trudeauism or you get pierre
01:52:01.060 pauliev anyone from anywhere can can be canadian like this is the countervailing philosophy across
01:52:06.660 the political spectrum um so unless we come in and say no uh canadians are a distinct people
01:52:12.580 and we need to preserve that and here is a comprehensive remigration plan to in order to
01:52:18.180 accomplish that in order we unless we take these dramatic steps can canadians are going to become
01:52:22.820 a minority in canada and then who knows where it goes from there um really issues like balkanization
01:52:29.380 and tribalization are really only problems in these kind of multi-ethnic multicultural societies
01:52:34.180 where that can happen.
01:52:36.140 If we were a much more cohesive country
01:52:40.440 with a unified culture,
01:52:42.060 without such a radical breakup of ethnic groups,
01:52:48.800 we wouldn't be,
01:52:51.080 like, balkanization would not be a big concern.
01:52:54.480 It's a concern given the situation that we're in now.
01:52:58.500 So these are why I think these are priorities.
01:53:00.980 uh we put we point to israel as an example of policies that we can adopt we we point to many
01:53:07.500 countries uh around the world uh for policies that we can uh adopt and and repurpose for the
01:53:13.640 canadian situation um but i i wouldn't say we're obsessed with the jews i think i think we're
01:53:19.560 obsessed with canada i don't know about you daniel i don't i don't know much about you i think this
01:53:24.260 was um the first time that we've spoken actually you said we've spoken before i'm not sure no we've
01:53:29.280 spoken years ago, Jeff. I was the executive director of the People's Party of Canada. I
01:53:33.060 talked about being a candidate in the 2021 election, but you weren't able to because you
01:53:39.100 were still leaving the military at the time. Yeah, that's what it was. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So
01:53:43.740 I didn't remember. Thanks for jogging my memory. But no, I mean, I'm referencing a specific tweet.
01:53:50.400 Like if there's anybody out there who's obsessed with Jews, it is Alex Cargill. And he was tweeting
01:53:56.560 at everybody to let them know to ignore me um and greg was retweeting that uh you know ignore me
01:54:02.640 because um i i don't believe this uh uh i i don't know what they want me to believe um this was
01:54:10.400 like over a year ago right uh one of one of the goals of today jeff and i think you were on board
01:54:15.760 with this was to air some of this and actually speak directly to people right so let me air it
01:54:20.720 let me uh i'll speak directly to it it was on the 17th of february 2025 um and you were
01:54:26.800 retweeting alex cargill who is very clearly obsessed with jews in israel um and he's telling
01:54:32.800 everybody to ignore me because i am not obsessed with jews in israel and you were retweeting him
01:54:37.920 and saying the canadian nationalists need to be vigilant of uh foreign interference including
01:54:42.240 foreign interference from israel um and you were talking about me um and that was during the the
01:54:48.480 the campaign to to cancel me as a as a ppc candidate so um i'm sure you can appreciate
01:54:58.240 well i said it was during the campaign if i see something that i agree with or i think they have
01:55:02.880 a point then i will sometimes retweet it and yeah i i don't know maybe i i think i probably had a
01:55:09.920 point i stand by most of my tweets i've been sober for a decade so uh i you know maybe in
01:55:15.360 in that video, Alex Cargill had a point. And yeah, I mean, as a free speech guy, I would
01:55:21.940 be remissed. I would be remiss, Jeff, if I didn't mention the fact that there is speech
01:55:27.800 laws already on the books for Holocaust denial in Canada. They're really pushing for it
01:55:33.140 for the US across the Western countries. Like there is no group that has specific speech
01:55:39.640 laws to protect them other than jews in the western western countries and again to their
01:55:45.860 credit it's because they're collectivizing it's because they have all these different groups it's
01:55:49.520 because they're pushing for the you know what what their people want and uh but as a free speech guy
01:55:54.820 i find that very like i don't know kind of annoying it's like not a good precedent to set
01:55:59.440 they're not now they're trying to do denialism laws for the uh the unmarked graves they're using
01:56:04.380 the sort of uh holocaust denial laws as a premise and they have basically the same language and
01:56:09.540 They're trying to port it onto the, you know, the Kamloops case on Mark Graves.
01:56:13.820 So you can be a denialist for, you know, talking the wrong way about historical facts having to do with Kamloops.
01:56:21.080 So that's that's a really, really bad precedent for free speech, Jeff.
01:56:25.620 And yeah, I guess it's to protect their people.
01:56:28.540 But again, because we were talking about the collectivization, at least, you know, it's kind of just proves that collectivizing does work around your kind of, you know,
01:56:37.740 ethnic religious group and advocating in the world of politics they've been successful across
01:56:42.240 the western world with with passing these speech laws to protect uh protect jews or protect you
01:56:46.720 know to make sure you don't say the wrong thing about the holocaust and i'll just ask a question
01:56:50.960 of greg on behalf of jeff because jeff i went through the same thing same group went after me
01:56:55.540 and in the ppc because i wouldn't denounce a certain group because i had no reason to denounce
01:57:00.080 anybody but they wanted me to do that and i said no and i do know some of the behind the scenes
01:57:04.720 that were targeting you and me and a couple others same group same people doing it and i'm sure jeff
01:57:10.320 or greg didn't know this like i'm sure he wasn't aware of this cancel attempt on you at the time
01:57:15.680 and he wasn't supporting it uh greg i'll let you speak for yourself on that one but i think
01:57:20.080 that's what sounds like jeff who was upset with that february 17th post of yours
01:57:26.160 i i don't specifically remember what the post was um i don't think my commentary is really
01:57:32.320 an attack on you i think it was just kind of like we need to look out for foreign
01:57:37.200 interference maybe it's coming from israel as well um i i don't know like i i would have to
01:57:44.560 look at the actual tweet itself to kind of like justify why i was saying it but i kind of i think
01:57:50.240 i put i think i just laid out a pretty clear example of foreign interference uh across the
01:57:56.400 western world of like you know how speech laws have been passed to protect a specific group of
01:58:01.040 people you believe in equality that do we believe in equality how's that foreign interference pardon
01:58:06.800 well he's just give an example of uh groups i feel like i gave up like brought up a pretty good
01:58:13.120 example of a uh you know of how jewish people have managed to pass speech laws across the western
01:58:21.520 world um specifically to insulate them from criticism i would argue how is that um foreign
01:58:31.200 interference how is that foreign interference i mean you could probably it probably wouldn't be
01:58:38.720 too hard to make the argument that these speech laws insulate bb netanyahu a foreign country from
01:58:44.800 criticism so that's pretty good for israel not really good for any other country that wants to
01:58:50.800 criticize israel the media has been really critical of israel actually since um since the
01:58:57.300 war started okay i i think you're okay i think we we've gotten to the point where this can't
01:59:03.660 really go further unless we have a lot more time which we don't have you're a free speech guy though
01:59:07.500 right yeah i'm a free speech guy um i can say like the a lot of more didn't happen i can say
01:59:12.820 uh the great leap forward didn't happen nobody cares look i'm not saying that we should have
01:59:17.040 those speech laws on the books i'm not advocating the wrong way it's like remember when you walked
01:59:21.680 in the in the bushes and you're like isn't this absurd it's just as absurd man dude i i never said
01:59:27.600 those speech laws should be on the books i don't think but he just gave that as an example of
01:59:32.000 interference yeah i know that's that's not foreign interference though that's just lobbying
01:59:40.240 okay tiana i'm gonna go to tiana now because i i think we're starting to split a hair because
01:59:44.880 lobbying can be by some seen as interference and then if it's done by a foreign entity that would
01:59:51.020 be the definition of it but there's another type of foreign interference where you like get into
01:59:54.960 the government and you do things too like foreign interference isn't just a single term it can it
02:00:00.380 could actually be used for a lot of interference and many different levels by a foreign entity
02:00:05.380 i think would be a fair definition tiana i want to come to you and then there's one more question
02:00:09.820 we have from nico and then we've got to wrap it up because i think there's one more piece of this
02:00:14.000 whole conversation which is important which is the public perception of remigration and how do
02:00:19.360 we work with that so that people can understand it better and i think part of the conversation here
02:00:23.720 helped but i would like to directly attack or not attack but talk about the marketing of it
02:00:29.400 absolutely so i'm gonna try and stay calm on this one because i get very passionate with like
02:00:34.900 trying to help canadians but there's a lot of propaganda and a lot of mind control being put
02:00:40.740 on canadians from these um globalists to try and separate all of us right and so they will use like
02:00:49.220 skin color religion so you guys keep saying things like why is israel so protected why are all of
02:00:55.060 these muslim countries protected because they believe in religion what is the one thing the
02:01:00.980 west has actually lost throughout the years it's their ties to god and it's their ties to christianity
02:01:07.460 Yes, we may be Christian countries on paper, but do we actually practice it? No, we don't. Not like Israel, not like these Muslim countries. And religious law will actually help you a lot than like natural laws. And universal laws will actually set us free, but nobody has the balls to actually go forward and use universal laws. That means I'm saying I'm a sovereign being. I don't need IDs. I don't need any of this stuff. Now you're going to get the government after you, right?
02:01:36.520 So the next best thing to use is religious laws, which is what the Mennonites, the Amish and like all those guys use.
02:01:43.540 And this is why I always say know the loopholes to the system in order to fuck the system within itself.
02:01:50.000 And a lot of people are like, no, I'm an atheist, but I'm still Christian, but I still want this.
02:01:56.200 I still want rights. You're either a Christian or an atheist.
02:01:59.160 If you're an atheist, you are free to be taken by any other country because you do not believe in one entity.
02:02:05.900 And if you look at the Freemasons and the globalists, the only thing that you need to do is believe in a god or a deity
02:02:12.180 It doesn't have to be a specific god and then you're untouchable
02:02:15.280 And then you can actually get into the cabal and into these Freemasons
02:02:18.460 Things which is why it's really important to learn all of these secret societies learn theology
02:02:24.360 So that you can actually learn the loopholes in order to protect your own country
02:02:28.320 So Canada isn't really a country. It's a corporation
02:02:32.360 our charter of rights isn't really real because nobody signed on to it um to make it real so
02:02:38.440 what's our next goal religious rights which is what the government is trying to take from you
02:02:43.240 with all of these bills that they're putting through so this is what i'm trying to tell
02:02:47.180 people if you want to be untouchable like israel if you want to be untouchable like these muslim
02:02:51.740 countries you need to become religious you need to be believe in jesus and you need to become like
02:02:58.400 the Mennonites and the Amish and then you're going to be untouchable it's like this loophole
02:03:03.340 in all of these laws you've got like the laws that they made then you've got the natural laws
02:03:07.700 then you've got the universal laws and if you learn those and if you learn how like the elites
02:03:11.860 work then you can learn all of their loopholes so that you can actually navigate all of this shit
02:03:17.100 and we can actually fight for Canada back like I honestly don't hate Canada I know I'm very
02:03:22.760 passionate I know I put a lot of hate out there I know I put a lot of like um you know feelings
02:03:27.680 out there but that's because i want you guys to learn from the mistakes that yugoslavia made
02:03:33.520 so that you don't get balkanized i'm balkan i know what that means so that you guys don't fight each
02:03:39.200 other and you want to know what's keeping the united states together it's religion it's
02:03:43.680 christianity and it's jesus and if only canada would wake up to that you guys would be unstoppable
02:03:51.520 if only europe would wake up to that you'd be unstoppable but they made you an atheist country
02:03:56.480 on purpose and they told you that feminism and like all of this other shit was like the thing
02:04:03.220 to like bring you happiness but it was actually the way they can fuck you through the law and
02:04:08.180 through the loopholes so yeah nico we covered this under the muslim values or canadian values
02:04:14.860 topic which kind of led into this when we covered that with pastor arthur palowski
02:04:19.580 that christians need to stand up and take this back so you want to you want to talk about that
02:04:24.980 and then let's get to that last question as we wrap up here today well we i talk about this stuff
02:04:30.540 almost on the daily so if you guys want to know my my stance on this you can look at my socials but
02:04:35.720 god is always the first thing the government tries to replace there's a reason why they do it
02:04:41.200 let's be honest here that's why they remove it and christians need to stand up this country was
02:04:47.140 based on christian values it was made by christian and christians today need to stand up and stop
02:04:53.180 being so lukewarm because we've been pussified in believing that being offensive is not good yet
02:04:59.780 our god flipped tables and was crucified for his belief so it's time for christians out there
02:05:05.940 to stand up but that's a subject i i don't think this is subject i want to approach on this because
02:05:12.900 i really want to bring it back to remigration since we're about done and there's just one more
02:05:17.460 questions i wanted to ask the dominion guys and i'm sorry i'm calling you the dominion guys it's
02:05:22.000 just simpler than naming both of you but the question is about the way that you guys are
02:05:27.920 being portrayed right and when i say you guys is guys like me too i'm being called racist xenophobe
02:05:33.720 all the words in the dictionary because i believe in canada too but the mainstream's calling you
02:05:39.040 racist they're calling you white nationalists they're using propaganda to kill the conversation
02:05:44.860 like they're trying to avoid they're trying that's what the main the left mainstream just
02:05:49.700 mainstream media as a whole is very good at doing is just killing the conversation
02:05:53.700 by insulting people and as someone that comes from a sales and marketing background i understand how
02:06:00.020 image and wording is extremely important to raise awareness to your message so how are you guys
02:06:06.900 going to market your beliefs and policies considering that mainstream
02:06:11.140 is trying to shut you down from the get-go can we go with the ideal first yeah this is a great
02:06:17.380 question and something that we're very careful about and really one of the driving forces behind
02:06:21.700 why we why we started a separate group um with a very different tactic than anything else kind of
02:06:28.660 out there in the political marketplace um it is a you know a controversial space it is some
02:06:35.380 difficult conversations that need to be had so we wanted to bring forward a new face a new
02:06:40.740 organization that could have these very important and careful conversations in a way that was
02:06:46.500 grounded in our history that was respectful that was clear that was professional so that's really
02:06:52.180 kind of uh a driving ethos behind what everything we do at the dominion society i will say i would
02:06:58.660 uh the media hasn't really covered us very much um we like there's there's lots of people in
02:07:05.940 anonymous accounts on the internet and so on that try and call us all these names um the coverage
02:07:10.900 we've actually had in the media is very limited and and usually they're very careful not to to
02:07:15.540 label us with very many things because they know most of it can't stick and doesn't hold up to
02:07:20.180 legal scrutiny uh and i'm sorry to cut you off but let me rephrase what i meant i didn't mean
02:07:26.420 you guys as a whole i meant the remigration movement as a whole because that was still
02:07:31.940 the topic of the day is i speak about remigration i'm called a racist right off the bat because
02:07:37.620 that automatically means i don't like black people right this is what this is what i meant by the
02:07:42.420 question yeah and to tack on to that daniel uh this is part of the end of the last conversation
02:07:48.100 we had was jeff was concerned that his effort to tackle the subject is being hampered by other
02:07:54.100 groups because of the media white nationalists all that kind of stuff masks that kind of stuff
02:07:59.380 so the question to you specifically is how do you navigate that broader uh framing while you're
02:08:05.380 trying to do your thing i appreciate that context i i wasn't part of that conversation so i know um
02:08:12.100 the main thing the main smear the media has kind of thrown at us is they kind of lump us in with
02:08:15.860 other groups um we've been described by uh the the thoroughly discredited and embarrassing
02:08:21.860 organization called the canadian anti-hate network as the the political wing of diagonal whatever that
02:08:28.020 means um as far as i understand that diagonal is a meme and not any real organization and we're
02:08:33.860 certainly not affiliated with it or any outside groups uh we're we're not the political wing of
02:08:40.180 anything we're our own independent organization with our own kind of uh clear kind of moral
02:08:44.740 philosophy and ideas that we promote um so that's where i'd want to start um when it comes to things
02:08:50.180 like masks i'm not a big proponent of masks uh in general and you'll see that during our demo
02:08:56.340 we're talking about and we're talking about masks for hiding identity not the covid stuff
02:09:00.820 uh double whammy it works in both cases um i'm not a big fan of masks um
02:09:05.860 um uh but in particular for political reasons uh like the main one of our main goals at the
02:09:13.860 dominion society is to normalize these ideas this nationalist worldview and the concept of
02:09:18.020 remigration and we do that through uh kind of three main channels we do that through
02:09:22.420 our media content we do that through our intellectual development and we do that
02:09:27.180 through uh grassroots activism and demonstrations and during our demonstrations during our volunteer
02:09:32.480 efforts uh we we we don't have uh we we have a no mask kind of policy across the board because we
02:09:40.460 believe that masks are kind of counterproductive they they project uh kind of shame in ideas um
02:09:47.240 or or they they they they they're a physical demonstration that your ideas are fringed and
02:09:52.860 you might be punished for them or or whatnot and i i absolutely understand why some people do uh
02:09:58.380 wear them like we we all know the political climate is the way it is and there's uh canceled
02:10:03.580 campaigns and this can threaten people's livelihoods like i understand why people choose
02:10:07.580 to wear masks i just think in our broader goals as an organization it's to normalize these goals
02:10:13.820 and there really there's no or these ideas and really there's no more powerful kind of symbolic
02:10:19.180 way of normalizing it than having normal people you know stand up and say i believe in remigration
02:10:25.740 um and you don't look like a normal person when you're wearing a mask or or so on um so we don't
02:10:31.980 really believe in masks as an organization um and we really want to put forward um very clear
02:10:38.780 incredible ideas we're very careful in our social media content and how our uh ideas are portrayed
02:10:45.020 in in videos and so on we we take everything we do very seriously we we show up uh to to events
02:10:52.300 and live streams and so on dressed professionally with high quality equipment. We put out high
02:10:57.180 quality content that shares our views in effective ways. Maybe sometimes we use some kind of
02:11:02.800 controversial language or humor or so on to get the point across and to kind of reach out to a
02:11:10.740 broader audience and go viral. There is a certain line to play for sure when it comes to things like
02:11:17.320 tweets and short form content like that um but really what we wanted to bring to the nationalist
02:11:23.000 kind of movement at large was an organization that could uh put forward a very professional
02:11:28.920 face uh very clear and professional content um because i think that's really what's necessary
02:11:34.280 to bring this uh this very important policy from the fringes into the mainstream and we've already
02:11:41.160 seen that happen in foreign uh countries like across europe um they've it's gone from you know
02:11:48.560 a niche idea to being adopted by uh like it's being adopted by the the freedom party in austria
02:11:54.900 it's being adopted by uh the chega party in portugal it's being adopted by the afd in germany
02:12:01.660 uh there have been successful movements that have been working at this for years now that i've
02:12:06.500 pushed it from the fringes into the mainstream using a lot of the strategies that we're adopting
02:12:12.160 and bringing into the Canadian context. So we're really looking to emulate what these foreign
02:12:16.780 movements have done as well as what, you know, kind of foreign ethnic lobby groups do in Canada
02:12:22.360 or advocacy groups do in Canada. We're kind of looking at these things and making our own kind
02:12:27.200 of hybrid. So we've made this kind of organization, the Dominion Society, that's kind of this hybrid
02:12:32.440 kind of advocacy group grassroots organization think tank media org into this weird kind of
02:12:39.300 hybrid monster that we think we can use to rapidly accelerate the discussion in canada and i think
02:12:44.140 the impact that we've had in in the overall political conversation in just the last five
02:12:49.680 months since we launched is is i think it's very obvious like now we just at the end of the year
02:12:53.860 we have ezra levant asking danielle smith about her position on remigration and sure her answer
02:12:59.640 was soft but all of a sudden remigration is like the premier of alberta is being asked about
02:13:03.940 remigration um 1bc blows up because of a philosophical disagreement about nationalism
02:13:10.720 and remigration like it's very obvious the way that we have pushed remigration into the the
02:13:17.000 conversation and i think over the next few months as we continue to grow as we continue to ramp up
02:13:22.180 our media content as our grassroots organization gets stronger and gets online in more cities
02:13:27.920 that this is just going to be pushed more and more into the mainstream.
02:13:31.520 And you're going to see Polyev and Carney have to react to it.
02:13:34.860 They're going to be asked by it, by journalists.
02:13:36.600 It's going to get more coverage in the media.
02:13:38.800 And I try not to pat myself on the back too much.
02:13:42.560 We have a huge uphill battle.
02:13:45.080 This is just the beginning.
02:13:46.880 But no one was using re-migration before I launched the Dominion Society on the 21st
02:13:52.040 and saying we're bringing this into the mainstream.
02:13:53.980 And it's very obvious how we have a conversation.
02:13:57.260 yes they have but ask yourself this why why have they allowed re-immigration into canada why have
02:14:04.140 they allowed so many immigrants into canada and why did you allow it ask yourself that why is it
02:14:09.820 certain countries that do not allow immigrants because they stand on it why was it allowed in
02:14:15.180 canada yeah a little bit later you kind of like you know coined the term but why was it allowed
02:14:22.140 in canada and why has it been taking this so far because of psychological operations yeah yeah so
02:14:28.440 we kind of touched on that in the beginning and i think there's more to that particular subject
02:14:32.060 tiana but we've got to kind of wrap this up and i do want to finish the marketing and the public
02:14:37.360 reception portion because what you bring up is a really big issue that i think we're going to have
02:14:41.220 you back on for a whole episode who's behind this and why are they doing it uh but let's just let
02:14:46.720 daniel finish here because we do have to wrap up if that's cool and then daniel uh you did talk
02:14:52.000 about Ezra Levant talking to Danielle Smith about it. He framed it as a UK thing. He didn't even
02:14:57.200 identify that Canada was doing it. He framed it as UK is doing it. And I'll be speaking to Danielle
02:15:03.000 Smith on the second. And this is one of the subjects that I'm talking to her about because
02:15:07.200 it came out of the Alberta Next panel. That's awesome. I would love to see you press her on
02:15:13.600 the issue as well because she gave a pretty soft response. Yeah, Ezra and Rebel do definitely try
02:15:18.600 and ignore us uh they they like to play the other side of the the issue he's made some comments kind
02:15:23.160 of uh implying that we're feds and stuff like this um i know i know the rebel is aware of us they
02:15:30.160 just uh actively try and ignore us and they want to acknowledge you but regardless like he's he's
02:15:36.000 using the word that's a w in my books i don't care um i prefer to to go on his show and and hash it
02:15:42.880 out and explain to to the wider audience which uh and i think rebel news's audience would would
02:15:47.780 definitely like to hear uh a truly patriotic nationalist message i'm sure they would like to
02:15:53.020 hear more about uh remigration um clearly he thinks it's an issue that uh appeals to his
02:16:00.180 audience he's asking people about it but uh why why he uh designates it as a uk thing uh no like
02:16:06.020 it's a concept that came out of france and it's taking over european countries all over so
02:16:09.600 clearly ezra's not very informed on it but i i'm happy he's informed he's he just doesn't want to
02:16:15.880 give credit where credit's due in canada that's my opinion and i must be clear about that because
02:16:20.300 he's suing me uh that's my opinion that he's just not wanting to give any any headlines to
02:16:25.820 canadian uh uh efforts yeah yeah whatever the the motive is the result is the same but
02:16:33.280 our goal i don't need credit i don't need any of this as long as we're pushing the window in
02:16:39.680 the right direction as long as even if people are using the word wrong the first word the first step
02:16:44.220 is people need to hear the word next step is we'll make sure they understand what it means
02:16:49.020 and third step is they embrace it as the solution so really we're still in this phase one and
02:16:54.060 honestly uh i didn't have it on my in my plan that it's like five minutes five months in uh
02:17:00.300 daniel smith is being asked about remigration like that was not that was not the checkpoint
02:17:04.700 like we're way ahead of schedule and i'm excited to see where we'll be in a couple more months
02:17:09.340 Fair. So Greg, as I come to you, you came to Calgary, you stood up on an overpass on one of
02:17:15.300 our major highways here in Alberta, you had the remigration sign, no masks, and no mainstream
02:17:21.280 coverage, but you did have local independent media coverage on it. So let's go ahead and touch on that.
02:17:26.960 And how do you continue this conversation going? Because yes, Danielle Smith now heard the term,
02:17:31.680 she responded to it, and she'll be talking about it again on January 2.
02:17:34.880 yeah yeah there's a lot of uh members out in calgary of the dominion society and they're
02:17:40.820 they're really hungry they're really hungry to spread the good word of free migration because
02:17:46.140 as i said earlier people recognize intuitively that it is an existential threat if we don't
02:17:51.560 start to uh kind of reverse reverse the flow of immigration and just kind of a couple things on
02:17:56.880 the marketing um daniel ken the other board member and myself we came from the people's party i ran
02:18:06.520 in 2019 for the people's party okay in 2019 we were saying hey let's cut the immigration numbers
02:18:12.700 in half back in 2019 even saying that that's it that's an idea that a lot of people would would
02:18:17.700 agree with in 2025 when he said that in 2019 you would you would get called the worst of the worst
02:18:23.200 to get out of here you're a hitler nazi loving whatever whatever but that just goes to show how
02:18:28.640 like we know the game is what i'm saying the people dominion society we know that we're going
02:18:32.800 to get called names and all of this and really we take it as a badge of honor you know like that
02:18:37.520 shows that we are threatening the status quo we are disrupting the regular programming they do
02:18:43.440 not want that they do not want that so they're going to use their cheap tactics uh guilt by
02:18:48.360 association you know all these different labeling all these smears are going to weaponize the
02:18:52.960 hate experts at anti-hate, a discredited organization. They're going to do everything
02:18:56.320 they can. And we see that as positive feedback, believe it or not. All that being said,
02:19:01.020 since we know the game, we know that we're not going to give them low-hanging fruit. We know
02:19:04.960 that there's a way to get our message out there that is going to be compelling to regular people
02:19:10.200 and the smears are going to fall on deaf ears. They're not going to work. And I do want to,
02:19:15.940 I alluded to it earlier, but I said, you know, it's like a remigration policy, like being a
02:19:21.900 proud canadian and understanding our history and respecting that like it's very basic stuff and i
02:19:27.340 like dominion because it comes from a place of love and of self-respect and self-preservation
02:19:34.060 there is a side to that which is ugly sorry i should say it's not a side it's like the opposite
02:19:38.540 side of that is like it's resentment driven it's kind of hate driven like oh i just want these
02:19:43.260 people gone you know like we're very very conscious of the difference between the two
02:19:48.060 and we make sure it's coming from that place of love and people can feel that vibe they feel that
02:19:53.740 vibe they feel comfortable signing up as a member wearing the dominion society pin and i think
02:20:00.220 daniel kind of summarized it well which is this is kind of just the beginning of like getting this
02:20:04.460 out into the ether it's kind of we're going to get a lot of pushback people are not going to
02:20:07.740 understand it they're going to think it's all this stuff but uh slowly but surely it's it's
02:20:12.700 changing the conversation and you know a year from now you're going to see that this is going
02:20:17.020 going to be a very popular movement and why not it's it's canadians waking up it's remoralizing
02:20:21.740 themselves it's it's addressing the existential crisis and um it's giving people an actual
02:20:27.640 solution to uh to these problems okay thanks for that a lot i really appreciate that uh jeff as we
02:20:35.160 finish up with you um project project cactus is something you're familiar with they went after
02:20:40.600 maxine bernier the platform called it racist five years later it's mainstream now suddenly
02:20:45.620 but you but what i'm trying to get at is you know what the stink it's hard to get rid of it
02:20:50.120 they just keep coming back up you got the bots out there and you got the opposition out there
02:20:54.500 so when it comes to the marketing thing you highlighted that it's more difficult for you
02:20:58.880 when remigration is framed around white naturalists wearing masks and hiding behind stuff
02:21:05.220 you want to kind of touch on that as we wrap up here yeah i think that was a reference to the last
02:21:10.800 panel that we uh that we did with jason from wiretap there and he was um uh promoting second
02:21:18.080 sons and um yeah uh basically i i think uh i was just saying like it doesn't make our jobs any
02:21:24.640 easier because you guys clearly are dressed like a militia and wearing masks um so uh it it tends to
02:21:32.560 associate um this conversation with uh with extremism so i i think that um you know that's
02:21:39.920 unhelpful and uh counterproductive and uh you know i uh would encourage you know the the argument
02:21:47.240 here i think is that uh people are worried about getting doxxed or fired or whatever if they show
02:21:51.540 their faces and um and you know i would say that i understand where you're coming from with from
02:21:57.620 that but that doesn't mean you do something that's counterproductive that means you find something
02:22:01.020 else that's productive um where you can kind of stay behind the scenes and there are all kinds of
02:22:05.280 people you know who helped me behind the scenes and stuff like that who tell me flat out like you
02:22:10.840 know I support what you're doing but I don't want to be the face of it I don't I want to remain
02:22:14.460 anonymous so there's there's plenty of opportunity for that too so so that was all I was saying
02:22:19.680 really is you know if we're going to advance the conversation that we need to we need to engage in
02:22:25.680 productive forms of protest and and actually I think protesting is kind of counterproductive
02:22:33.640 its own right now like nobody cares if we protest so um i think that uh the the legal battle space
02:22:39.480 and the political advocacy and lobbying space is probably where it's at um getting paper trails
02:22:44.680 going processes that have teeth um that kind of thing um but but i digress you know protesting
02:22:51.240 uh itself i think is kind of a dead end at this stage um but um but yeah i mean uh this is uh i
02:23:00.280 think an important conversation to have around uh you know immigration securing our borders securing
02:23:06.920 our uh election system like we are uh in a war in in my view um historians will look back and
02:23:14.600 say that world war iii started in 2020 with the uh the release of covet um and i disagree with
02:23:20.920 tatiana in terms of uh what the center of gravity is as you know i i believe that it's the ccp
02:23:27.720 and uh communist china um their their proxies their various proxies and allies of course russia
02:23:33.880 iran um and the like so um yeah we've uh never been in as much trouble as a nation and canada
02:23:41.800 needs warriors like never before so um you know i think uh it's it's nice to see that people are
02:23:47.400 armoring up but uh at the same time let's not shoot ourselves in the foot okay so fair enough
02:23:54.040 and i really enjoyed this conversation i didn't know what to expect but i did know it was going
02:23:59.000 to be a conversation that was going to get definitely interesting at the minimum but
02:24:05.000 very necessary over the last couple months i've seen it pop up a lot i've wondered what it meant
02:24:10.360 and of course when you have a dominant dominant group pushing hard that they sometimes uh overshadow
02:24:16.920 everybody else's efforts this is why dominion society was important to have you both on to
02:24:22.040 to clarify it and understand it because not everybody sits down and reads an
02:24:25.220 entire website. People sometimes need clips or podcasts to get through things.
02:24:29.700 So Nico, I'm going to throw it to you.
02:24:31.580 Hopefully we learned something here today. It may not be complete.
02:24:34.660 It may not be fully understood,
02:24:36.000 but at least we got a lot in two and a half hours tonight.
02:24:41.040 I'm just going to say thank you. Thank you to Greg.
02:24:43.180 Thank you to Daniel taking the invitation because God knows you,
02:24:46.520 you take a lot of heat and probably that people don't give you the respect that
02:24:51.040 you deserve at least a platform for you guys to be able to speak about it because like i said
02:24:56.340 before a lot of stuff that you guys say that i agree with so good for you guys for doing what
02:25:01.740 you do and thank you for being here thank you for all the people in the comment section agree or
02:25:05.980 disagree the whole point is civil discourse so i want to have those conversations those important
02:25:11.860 conversations because like it or not remigration is something that's on the table now and canadians
02:25:17.660 are talking about it and it's not going away so thanks again guys absolutely daniel goodbye
02:25:24.860 i'm sorry yeah yeah thanks for having us on it was a fun discussion it was kind of all over the
02:25:31.420 place of it but it's always fun to to chat about your idea our ideas um if you guys are ever looking
02:25:37.400 for for a voice for a nationalist perspective we're happy to come on that's a i consider that
02:25:42.100 a part of our job we want to be uh kind of effective spokespeople for the nationalist
02:25:45.800 movement and uh our uh steward our message in effective ways into a larger and more mainstream
02:25:53.080 audience so we we always appreciate the opportunity and we're we're we're fine being called names we
02:25:58.620 don't mind fighting with people it's all part of the fight um and like to us we're we're really
02:26:04.720 standing for something bigger than ourselves we're standing for the the our ancestors and
02:26:08.940 our descendants we're standing for our nation so we a few mean internet comments uh some snide
02:26:14.220 comments passive aggressive comments that we have to spar with it's all part of the fun for for us
02:26:18.780 really um so thanks for having us on it was great we'd be happy to come back on in the future and
02:26:23.980 if i i encourage anyone who's uh interested in to learn more about our organization or anything like
02:26:28.860 that to check out our website dominionsociety.ca you can learn a bit more about our ideas or you
02:26:33.980 can sign up as a member or make a small donation to help us to grow faster and do more um but yeah
02:26:40.540 thanks for having us on it was a it was a good great night and long live canada thank you very
02:26:46.300 much daniel uh greg good night and don't forget to mention uh your movie and maybe where someone
02:26:52.140 could go watch it next yeah absolutely thanks so much jason thanks for having me if you want to
02:26:56.940 see the hate network which is a documentary about the state of free speech in canada which exposes
02:27:02.860 the hate experts the canadian anti-hate network in canada you can go to savefreespeech.ca and
02:27:09.660 if you're in the toronto area you can click on the toronto link or you can just go straight to
02:27:14.620 freespeechto.eventbrite.com buy tickets we'll see you in toronto on january 11th that is when the
02:27:22.780 next screening for this documentary will be and i will see you there jan 11th toronto go check it
02:27:29.580 out i have watched it it's a very good movie david haskell is going to be there uh henry hildebrandt
02:27:35.340 pastor henry hildebrandt's going to be there uh kareem assad is going to be there who knows a lot
02:27:39.660 about canadian anti-hate network they'll be there for the q a so it'll be a lot of fun excellent
02:27:45.660 and i hope you share the q a like you did with the calgary one that was a lot of information there
02:27:49.900 uh jeff you want to have a good bye there um sure uh thanks everybody for tuning in and uh guys
02:27:57.740 thanks for coming on and uh you know facing the heat um you know i can't uh definitely can't uh
02:28:04.540 fault here for that um it is a tough conversation to have but you know like um the most difficult
02:28:11.340 conversations are also the most important so and i also want to say thank you to everybody on the
02:28:16.540 panel tiana had to run and i really did appreciate everybody's comments uh and this is when i reached
02:28:22.620 out i said hey you guys want to talk nobody said no they said absolutely let's have a conversation
02:28:27.420 and a nice civil one so i really appreciate that and to the audience make sure you give everybody
02:28:31.020 to follow all our handles are in our name here so give us all a follow and we do this roughly
02:28:36.460 every two weeks but stay tuned to nico and myself and we'll announce the next one shortly
02:28:40.940 but nico thank you very much for taking the time again tonight i know it's a long one for you we
02:28:44.540 got the little one daniel great to meet you in person ish virtually at least i know there's
02:28:49.980 some emails and stuff as of booking max and other things back in the day greg always awesome to see
02:28:55.100 you and thanks a lot for hosting me at your event in calgary and i'm looking forward to hearing more
02:28:59.740 more about your movie. And Jeff, you are the wisest person I know most of the days, especially with
02:29:05.460 that big beard of yours. So I do appreciate that a lot. And I'm really glad we can have a civil
02:29:10.560 conversation. We can agree to disagree. We can agree to agree. And like you said, 80 to 90% of
02:29:16.020 the stuff you agree on, that's a good start. That's the other 10% we need to discuss. So thanks to
02:29:20.800 everybody watching. Do tune in next time. And thank you very much for hanging out with us. God bless.
02:29:29.740 Thank you.