Greg Wycliffe - Talking To Communists

00:00:00.000 it's because we don't have the same definition of communism people die like on tv all the time

00:00:05.680 we don't immigrate people in here and assimilate them into our country

00:00:09.760 the east will you should have some respect for the people who founded the country i don't think

00:00:13.440 that's really that radical i don't know if trump got assassinated i might celebrate that have i

00:00:18.480 been drinking today because there's a couple signs that are like everyone is welcome everyone is

00:00:22.800 welcome what is a canadian hi so i've been interviewing people in the field for a while

00:00:32.000 now and i'm always very careful to make sure if i record someone and post it on the internet

00:00:39.120 i try not to make them look stupid even if they disagree with me even if we're like political

00:00:43.920 opponents i'm like i don't want to i don't want to unfairly you know edit this person uh to make

00:00:50.320 them look bad i want to get i want to give them and their ideas a fair shot you know like maybe

00:00:55.840 this person was kind of like off kilter and so like is it really fair to post that but ever since

00:01:02.320 the assassination of charlie kirk yeah i don't really care anymore you know if you're going to come up to

00:01:09.200 me and hash out some ideas and i think they're really stupid and you embarrass yourself i don't

00:01:17.360 really care anymore um i'm just going to post it before i thought hey even if i disagree with them

00:01:26.160 i should still try to make them you know look good maybe i caught them in an off moment but no now

00:01:33.440 no not anymore not anymore so without further ado here is me uh having various conversations with

00:01:43.280 different communists i've said commies as a joke before but sure enough you'll find out some of

00:01:48.960 these people are they think communism is the best ideas there are despite the bad track record

00:01:57.120 so yeah without further ado enjoy me talking to communists

00:02:03.760 hey nigel any comments on the death of charlie kirk

00:02:18.560 years of dehumanizing and demonizing right-wing conservatives and then he gets killed

00:02:24.480 this is something that the anti-hate network does you're a board member correct

00:02:27.600 all death is horrible it really is do you agree absolutely it's it's horrible

00:02:38.800 i know i just want to make sure it's clear all death everyone's death is horrible i i have a 10

00:02:45.760 year old son and i you know so i feel bad for his child it's horrible that it happened to him

00:02:52.240 anyway thank you very much for your question well i'm just concerned because people were celebrating

00:02:56.560 his death they were saying death to fascists i don't care and you're part of the canadian anti-hate

00:03:01.760 network which regularly dehumanizes and demonizes fascists and you even associate with anti-fascists

00:03:12.160 you associate with anti-fascists who say they want to punch fascists so you

00:03:17.840 do you feel guilty at all for smearing right-wing people

00:03:20.640 i don't want you guys now now charlie kirk is dead because of organizations like anti-hate

00:03:31.040 did you want to make any comments on that

00:03:40.160 now charlie kirk's children has no father because of smear merchants like yourself at the anti-hate network

00:03:46.080 so again very good very good running away from the conversation running away from the conversation

00:04:01.120 that's right there you have it folks that's it i mean

00:04:05.920 they mischaracterize people as being fascist as being right-wing and then people take it upon

00:04:12.240 themselves they dox people they they coordinate and essentially echo the exact same sentiments as

00:04:18.640 antifa antifa is a violent organization some call it a terrorist organization and if you talk to

00:04:25.120 antifa members i'm sure they would say that they were happy that charlie kirk was dead this

00:04:29.040 is an organization that tries to say that we're going to stop political violence and that we're

00:04:33.120 going to stop all of the hate when clearly they foment hatred against regular right-wing people

00:04:38.240 how's it going good did you want to chat i thought if you wanted to harass someone you could harass

00:04:47.920 me um have you heard of the canadian anti-hate network the what canadian anti-hate network no

00:04:54.800 so uh they claim to use all of their resources to fight fascists and to fight um racists and uh

00:05:02.800 the problem is they only focus on right-wing people they don't focus on any left-wing violence

00:05:07.680 like they're probably not going to disavow the death of charlie kirk for example speaking

00:05:11.680 generally speaking people on the left um aren't wouldn't consider themselves fascists

00:05:17.360 so if an organization is is meant to um take down fascists then i don't understand why they would

00:05:24.160 go after people on the left so they say that they stop hate of all types and they try to prevent

00:05:28.560 hateful movements but but they've also explicitly said actually we only focus on the far right okay so

00:05:34.640 did you see uh do you know who charlie kirk is i i heard in the news that he was assassinated

00:05:41.200 um and that i don't know if i read the right article but apparently they found the guy

00:05:47.040 uh i mean there's a lot of information i'm more curious because there's people like

00:05:51.520 more left-wing people celebrating his death there was actually a niagara uh regional counselor

00:05:57.600 who were like she was triggered by people showing sympathy for charlie kirk and his family

00:06:06.160 sorry what's your is there a question there or oh i guess what is your what is your reaction to that

00:06:11.280 somebody who is triggered in a bad way that someone would show sympathy for someone who just got

00:06:15.840 assassinated well i think people get triggered by different things right so i think you'd have to ask

00:06:20.640 her that question i'm not really sure what your question is to me about it so so someone celebrate

00:06:26.080 charlie kirk's death yeah okay so then you can just come right out and ask the question

00:06:31.280 no i don't celebrate death of any kind but i do think that for some reason his death is getting a

00:06:37.200 lot more attention than the death of anyone else and that i find very interesting so i think it's probably

00:06:44.960 because he was killed on camera on a college campus under under a banner that said prove me wrong

00:06:52.400 that's probably why uh it got so much attention yeah okay yeah people die like on tv all the time

00:07:01.120 like people die on camera like people film bad things happening um i guess what is your response

00:07:07.840 when people do celebrate the death of someone like charlie kirk what's your response to that

00:07:12.560 i mean they probably have their reasons i don't know if trump got assassinated i might celebrate

00:07:18.160 that yeah okay cool and and why would you be happy about that um it'd be probably best for

00:07:29.920 the planet because uh he just is a really awful person and i think his um

00:07:37.120 um his life has led to the unnecessary death of a lot of people and i think that if he died i

00:07:44.560 wouldn't be first personally i wouldn't be very sad about it yeah like i know more about trump than

00:07:50.960 i know about charlie kirk so all right uh so you think like do you think political violence

00:07:57.760 is uh is a good solution to things or

00:08:00.080 like do you support political violence well sometimes you unfortunately um sometimes violence

00:08:10.960 speaks unfortunately sometimes it doesn't there's violence happening everywhere and sometimes it's

00:08:16.160 louder for some reason um i don't know i don't think that it's an answer certainly but what what's the

00:08:26.320 question that we're asking i mean like should we hash it out in a debate or should we fight each

00:08:33.440 other that's basically the question

00:08:39.520 people here are here to debate like personally like i don't know what are we having this

00:08:43.600 conversation for like are you trying to trick me into saying that i celebrate charlie kirk's death

00:08:47.440 like is that what your channel is all about or do you want to have conversations about what is

00:08:51.760 important to me in this city we're talking about someone in the us like we live in canada what are

00:08:57.120 you saying about canadians what are you doing for canada you personally what are you doing for your

00:09:02.560 country there's a niagara regional counselor that's in canada and she was triggered by people showing

00:09:11.120 sympathy for a conservative who got assassinated to me that's like that shows like a very dark and

00:09:18.640 evil thing in my opinion like we can't even agree like if somebody dies i get upset i don't care what

00:09:24.720 their politics are but this person's like well if i disagree with their politics i don't care if they

00:09:29.200 die to me that's like shockingly immoral and shockingly evil what about the death penalty then what

00:09:36.080 do you think about the death penalty uh we don't have a death penalty in canada well we don't have a

00:09:42.000 charlie kirk in canada you're not asking me about canadian politics i don't understand what your

00:09:48.640 point of is being here i don't understand why you're filming this and i don't understand why

00:09:52.880 you're trying to approach people don't want to talk to you because anti-hate uh mischaracterizes

00:09:58.880 people as fascist and racist and then antifa sees that and they're like oh i'm gonna be violent against

00:10:04.160 this person and then cbc is like yeah you can be balanced against that person and then right-wing

00:10:09.280 people are getting hatred fomented against them and then violence is being inflicted upon them

00:10:13.440 what are you doing to defuse polarization and violence in toronto i'm trying to explain it to

00:10:18.560 you no you're not you're asking me stupid questions about a guy who doesn't even have anything to do

00:10:23.120 with either of us ask me about the people who are sleeping on the other side of this park because

00:10:28.000 they have nowhere to live did you go over and take them a granola bar in a juice box did you see

00:10:34.800 them sleeping over there you probably walked right and past them why do you think our shelters are

00:10:40.160 filled up i have a lot of answers about that actually why do you think i think that an easy way

00:10:46.080 to prevent that would stop the radical mass immigration that's coming in here so many people

00:10:50.080 are coming to do with immigration we don't think our filled up shelters have anything to do with

00:10:55.920 immigration you're down on immigration right i'm an immigrant so okay so what's the problem with

00:11:00.240 being an immigrant you're you're she's well she is saying there's have you seen the people who can't

00:11:05.840 even get inside of shelters and i'm like yeah there's a massive influx of people there's a massive

00:11:10.080 influx of uh immigrants coming here as well and it's overwhelming all of our systems the the uh the

00:11:17.120 wait times the wait times and have you seen the wait times in the emergency room have you have any

00:11:23.280 you guys seen the wait times in emergency rooms what do you think that comes from do you think

00:11:27.440 inviting more and more and more people is going to be better for our healthcare system and the waiting

00:11:31.440 rooms or do you think inviting more and more people here is going to be better for the shelter

00:11:35.840 system that's already overwhelmed or worse okay so these are good questions yeah i'll answer your

00:11:41.200 question may i no okay no problem okay so i'm actually working on a documentary right now about

00:11:46.960 homelessness in toronto from the perspective of frontline workers in shelters and um and drop-in

00:11:52.880 centers in toronto um there is a huge rhetoric in the shelter system in encampments that immigrants

00:12:00.400 are taking their beds and look i don't know whose responsibility it is to take care of refugees when

00:12:06.400 they get here but canada is a very affluent place we have lots of places for people to go

00:12:11.680 they shouldn't be sleeping on the street first of all second of all this country hasn't built social

00:12:17.440 affordable housing in 40 years so that's problem number one number two is if you even first of all

00:12:24.720 there's 90 000 people in ontario alone on the list for rent geared to income that have been on the list

00:12:32.640 for decades some of them and if you are not a senior or you do not have a disability you have

00:12:38.320 absolutely no chance of getting a place to live in this place so does that answer your question or well

00:12:45.280 not really i guess if you're doing a documentary on this does immigration levels have anything to

00:12:52.800 do does it even hit your radar in terms of trying to address this problem that you care about that's

00:12:57.040 actually why i'm here yeah go ahead yeah i'm thirsty actually your family immigrate to this country

00:13:05.600 uh my dad immigrated here when he was one and my mom was actually a descendant of the united empire

00:13:12.720 loyalists so what would you say if someone said that you and your family should leave

00:13:17.040 because there's too many people here and we shouldn't have immigrants i know you got here a

00:13:21.200 while ago but you're still an immigrant uh you say if someone told you to leave

00:13:29.360 if somebody has an opinion i would be like okay that's your opinion and then i would look at the

00:13:32.880 situation and see if it was viable or not you know it's not a situation someone is telling you and your

00:13:40.160 family to leave yeah you know why because you're an immigrant so on one side of my family we've been

00:13:45.680 here for generations like hundreds and hundreds of years so there was some of my some of my bloodline

00:13:57.280 was here before the country was founded okay are you native are you aboriginal do you have a native card

00:14:05.440 no no okay so then you're a immigrant

00:14:09.440 but do you guys like have any respect for the you know founding stuff of the country that came here

00:14:14.800 and actually developed the land and actually built the infrastructure colonization use the right word

00:14:20.000 yeah do you have any respect for the people who like helped build these i have respect for colonizers

00:14:25.920 and racists no all right did you take the bus here today did you take the roads here today

00:14:33.440 did do you have like a you know where do you think your license came from like like where do you think

00:14:37.840 these like institutions came from i'm so like with all the respect to the indigenous like they did not

00:14:44.400 build the canadian government they did not establish the railroad it's no it's no disrespect to them

00:14:50.400 no this man this is just about history right it's just about recognizing historical facts

00:14:55.840 so are you bailing on our conversation or what she bailed

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00:15:32.640 i'm here right to christy pitts you know the history of christy pitts right you know why this

00:15:38.800 is uh tell me more about the history of christy pitts well you know in 1933 there was a riot yeah

00:15:43.920 yeah but do you know why there was a riot i think it was like nazis versus or something like that

00:15:48.720 nazis no no you see you're not understanding the issue was immigration because it was 1933

00:15:54.320 and there were no jobs and people were losing their homes and people were really stressed out and

00:15:59.440 they wanted someone to blame and they said you know what let's blame the immigrants and this is

00:16:04.800 really familiar and so unfortunately a lot of the areas south of 1933 were immigrants the immigrants

00:16:12.080 were then all white sorry mostly european stuff they were actually italians who were not considered

00:16:19.440 oh you don't you don't consider italian white i i don't think white is even a really a term that

00:16:25.120 means much but then they didn't then they didn't at that time if you want to respect history yeah

00:16:30.560 at that time italian people were not white you can rent to them north of here and stuff and so

00:16:39.840 well and now we have indians coming in here and we're told that they're just as canadian as us do

00:16:43.520 you guys agree with that subject the point is no but do you think that's a good question though isn't

00:16:48.000 it all italians to leave right now would you tell all italians to leave here because they're immigrants

00:16:54.480 would you yes or no right now we have an immigration like so many different programs

00:17:00.240 that are incentive all the italians in terms of history right i'm a historian okay you're saying

00:17:09.280 that all the problems come down impression but we've heard this story before saying all of the

00:17:14.160 problems okay there's a lot of problems and right now we haven't we have an immigration system right now

00:17:20.720 that's incentivizing all types of different people to come here and to take advantage of

00:17:25.040 our social services and it's clearly unsustainable because we have wrecked how many kids do you have

00:17:31.840 i don't have any right now yeah you're the problem you know why we need immigration because you haven't

00:17:37.200 fathered 14 children yet sure so if you want to step up and repopulate this country maybe you should do

00:17:45.440 that i think that's definitely part of it absolutely but right now it's by the way but

00:17:50.960 the fact is is that is that the reason we need immigration is because our tax base is shrinking and our

00:17:58.160 population is aging and now we're supporting a large amount of uh elderly citizens right who have you

00:18:06.960 know so do you think do you think do you think through policy we should incentivize people to have

00:18:11.200 more kids or we should incentivize more foreigners to come here and just sort of like set up shop

00:18:15.360 i think through policy we should not be basically

00:18:22.240 and that this argument that immigrants are the problem is what ended up leading unfortunately to

00:18:27.280 the rise of fascism with hitler and i think we recognize that in fact what hitler was trying

00:18:33.680 to do was a bad idea it's not something that we as canadians get behind what does hitler have to

00:18:37.680 do with this i just explained it you had the rise of fascism in the 30s in response to hardship

00:18:44.320 and with the attempt to look and find a scapegoat and they found scapegoats and in canada

00:18:50.800 one of the scapegoats was immigrants and we're hearing the exact same arguments again so do we

00:18:56.080 want to actually walk down that path because we know where that path goes and i don't think it's where

00:19:01.680 most canadians want to be for real like learning i just don't see how you know how is our health

00:19:08.240 care sustainable at the current rate how is how is how is the health health in crisis or even the job

00:19:13.120 market sustainable the current rate of immigration so how is how is having a like a continued influx of

00:19:21.760 people going to help any of these problems exactly why because they come here and they pay taxes

00:19:26.320 and they build the roads that you drove here on today immigrants pay taxes the new immigrants

00:19:32.000 build the roads here they pay taxes which pays for the roads okay so i'm talking about how our existing

00:19:40.320 services like like the emergency room like health care no no but what about the other side of that

00:19:45.840 because you're saying they're coming here and it's only benefits it's only benefits right let's just say

00:19:49.760 we cut off immigration right where it's convenient for you so after your family immigrated here then

00:19:56.080 we stop immigrating okay you're you're just straw manning my argument no but if we did that no no this

00:20:00.880 is my argument without immigrants to this country this country is nothing it's literally nothing it would

00:20:08.240 be a bunch of inbred scurvy having european starved to death settlers except they wouldn't have survived

00:20:19.200 without the act of the indigenous people now i'm going on a tangent the point is this country was built

00:20:26.400 by slavery and genocide and when you're saying that we should respect

00:20:36.480 the history of canada i believe that i agree with you and the way that i do that is by understanding

00:20:47.520 the history of canada which is genocide slavery and just resource extraction as basically a colony

00:20:59.440 for the you know the empire it was britain and french back then and now it's

00:21:03.920 you know it's the global corporate empire so do you think there's anything worthwhile about canadian

00:21:09.520 history it's all just colonization and genocide well those are the most important parts that you

00:21:14.560 should be focused on if you want to talk about john a mcdonald and and like some random uh politicians

00:21:23.360 from a few uh hundred years ago uh you can do that but i think it's relevant that they were

00:21:31.600 so savagely racist that you would blush at some of the things that have been said by the founding

00:21:41.360 fathers of canada you know the irony of that is sir john a and the leaders back then they were

00:21:49.040 probably like the least racist among the population then and just in terms of what the standard was

00:21:54.640 right like if you want to be real what's your point but like do you think there were like

00:21:58.720 progressive antiva people back then but what's your point my point is the leaders back then were

00:22:04.240 probably the least racist yet here you are applying a 21st century standard to like hundreds of years

00:22:10.480 ago like it's it's kind of absurd but wanting wanting seeing an entire group of people as some human

00:22:17.440 and wanting to kill them all that's not something that was okay back then because it was those

00:22:24.640 good old days you know like what like are you saying that if we were living 200 years ago

00:22:32.400 the idea of dehumanizing and killing an entire group of people is okay because it happened two

00:22:39.280 years ago 200 years ago is that your answer no it's not obviously no one would say that yeah but

00:22:45.840 you're trying to say that it happened a long time ago so it's different but it still happened it still

00:22:53.120 happened though and like going back into your lineage yeah do you think there'd be people who

00:22:58.480 like weren't racist and pieces of as well no they were all racist pieces of i guess you're guilty too

00:23:03.680 man oh my god you're you're guilty of being a you're a descendant of a racist yes i am yeah it's

00:23:11.200 horrible well so so no one's innocent then let me tell you so no one's innocent right no no no you

00:23:18.720 don't understand it's racism that's horrible yeah racism is the problem right and so the people back

00:23:25.760 then were doing it and it was bad and now people now are doing it and it's bad right but but you're

00:23:31.840 applying like a 21st century standards like hundreds of years ago i'm applying a 21st century to the 21st

00:23:36.720 century right now and when you are coming here and trying to blame all society's problems on

00:23:42.000 immigrants no not doing that not doing that not doing that you're mischaracterizing all my views

00:23:47.360 first of all you're saying that racism is wanting to kill all black people or something

00:23:52.000 that's what you just said a few moments ago you you mentioned wanting to kill an entire group of

00:23:58.000 people because they're different indigenous people yeah yeah sir johnny mcdonald maybe we should read

00:24:04.800 up a little bit have you heard of the iroquois genociding other tribes that's called the what

00:24:09.040 about ism have you heard of that logical fallacy we care about genocide and killing groups of people

00:24:14.960 right have you heard about the what about ism logic but we're talking about genocide and killing

00:24:19.120 groups of people are we not and i'm talking about the what about ism logical fallacy have you heard

00:24:22.960 of it i'm talking about iroquois killing groups of people i'm talking about the what about ism

00:24:27.280 logical fallacy have you heard of it i think i found an equal equivalent of genocide and you

00:24:31.440 don't want to engage with the conversation because it's obviously it's not equivalent what does that

00:24:36.400 even mean we're talking about the iroquois people the iroquois people genocided a whole

00:24:42.000 bunch of different tribes that weren't them nothing to do with what we're talking about you're

00:24:45.760 talking about why genocide is bad no i'm talking about you coming here and blaming the problems of

00:24:51.600 society on recent immigrants and that that is racist uh i'm saying so i think you're mischaracterizing

00:24:59.440 pretty well all of my points maybe i am how do you think we're going to fix the health care crisis

00:25:04.000 and the housing crisis for example do you think do you do you think that do you do you he's right yeah

00:25:11.840 that's a good start yeah so just taxing rich people will help help get down wait times get vaccinated

00:25:17.920 have you been vaccinated i'm completely unvaccinated proudly proudly so you do you know that you are a

00:25:24.240 disproportionate burden on the medical system statistically i haven't been to the hospital

00:25:29.600 a long time statistically not anecdotally statistically your childhood vaccinations you didn't get as a

00:25:38.000 child no no like those like those vaccines i have i don't i don't i don't have the covid that the covid

00:25:44.080 vaccine could have given you brain damage those vaccines i know someone who got a heart condition

00:25:49.600 after it unfortunately it's called an anecdote have you heard of that yeah he has a heart condition

00:25:55.360 maybe you should show some like you know sympathy to someone who has a heart condition after getting

00:25:58.640 the vaccine or i guess you don't care about people who get vaccine injured it does happen sympathy for

00:26:02.880 anyone we're having a debate here and uh you've been drinking today by chance have i been drinking

00:26:09.200 today uh alcohol yeah do you think that the things i've said uh lead you to believe that i'm under the

00:26:17.280 influence about no you're just you kind of got a little okay i think i just have that effect on people

00:26:22.480 you know i get tired i i get people wobbly eh no because it's just like talking around and around

00:26:29.120 in a circle would you guys say you have like like you fetishize people who are non-white

00:26:36.480 would you say you fetishize people who are not non-white um i don't think you have any right to

00:26:41.200 ask that question i think it's about my sexual right like i think it's weird no no it doesn't have to be

00:26:45.840 sexual just like in general like do you like fetishize no no it doesn't have to be sexual

00:26:50.400 but it's a weird uh non-sequitur question like i'm your mother's age and you're asking me like what

00:26:57.600 gets me hungry no no no i didn't mean it in a sexual way i just think that that's what fetishizing is

00:27:03.120 that's what the word is no no it doesn't have to be i i actually think that it doesn't have to be

00:27:07.200 sexual personally however what if i asked you like no see i don't want to get into these weird

00:27:14.800 questions because honestly like come on you came here with an agenda or at least originally you had

00:27:20.960 to talk about immigration and how without saying it explicitly you're kind of insinuating that the

00:27:29.280 current uh immigration system is taxing our society is that correct uh like taxing more

00:27:37.680 specifically it's straining it in various ways yeah yeah uh sure so so it's your position that if we

00:27:47.200 it's your position that if we removed all or what stopped immigration maybe that uh changed a number

00:27:54.320 of the problem changed a number of the policies and essentially changed the incentives right now

00:27:59.840 we have a lot of incentives to get people here and to in some cases live off of social assistance

00:28:05.440 and to not contribute are you aware of the last five bills that received the royal assent

00:28:12.080 i'm not i i'm sorry i don't know last bills are you aware of the last five bills that received royal

00:28:18.000 assent last five bills in parliament yes no i don't i know i don't know yeah do you i i've read them

00:28:26.080 like i can recall maybe two of them so does this have to do with immigration or no it has to do with

00:28:32.080 you speaking on policy and then not being familiar with what's been passed um i mean dude there's 338

00:28:41.360 different parliamentarians legislation is passed through all the time uh i focus on i spoke i focus on

00:28:47.120 specific policies right i don't pretend to be an expert on everything that goes through the

00:28:52.240 canadian parliament because i think some affect us more than others and i think immigration policy is

00:28:56.560 one of the worst currently there's about 80 bills trying to make their way through the senate and the

00:29:00.960 house of commons so not like 300. no no there's 338 parliamentarians oh right so those are people who

00:29:07.440 are representing mpps and mps yeah yeah okay so what are some of the policies that you're familiar with

00:29:14.080 regarding immigration it looks like you're just trying to like get me in the gotcha like i don't

00:29:18.480 know that much about politics okay so then can i explain some of my points what what do you so i

00:29:24.480 have like a problem with immigration as well okay and it starts with that foreign international students

00:29:30.240 pay three times as much as domestic students they're paying three times as much and they don't receive

00:29:36.560 adequate housing adequate equipment adequate food yeah i go to school i get the same degree as an

00:29:43.120 international student but they have to work two jobs and then work twice as hard as well just to

00:29:48.080 get the same level of education as me that's not a very equitable situation sure that is one example

00:29:55.040 having the institutions lower the cost of international students tuition by lowering that

00:29:59.840 cost they don't have to work two jobs and take up all the jobs that are available life becomes easier or

00:30:05.520 keep it the same but give them the housing give them the equipment give them the food the meal plans

00:30:10.720 don't make them pay extra for it yeah do you think that's fair i mean i think we're already kind of

00:30:17.600 in a housing crisis in in general i i think that you know if you if you look at the wait times in the

00:30:23.760 emergency room out east like you know the wait times and the emergencies rooms is people are dying on

00:30:29.280 waiting lists for surgeries and all types of things i i think if you objectively look at there's too many

00:30:35.280 people that our institutions can handle i think that you know i don't disagree like you make a good

00:30:42.160 point maybe that would free up some jobs but it's like i just don't think there's our institutions

00:30:47.120 can handle the amount of people coming in right now here's here's the second part of it because

00:30:51.680 the institutions make so much more money on international students there's an incentive to

00:30:56.800 import these international students into areas where i agree already high people i agree

00:31:02.240 i think that's a irresponsible program and as i was been saying to these people they are incentivizing

00:31:07.120 people to to come in and move into areas where there's already plenty of people not enough jobs

00:31:12.400 not enough houses well and do you know you talked about the rich earlier do you know who do you know

00:31:18.560 who benefits the most from mass immigration it's the rich because it drives down the wages right they

00:31:25.040 want to import cheap foreign labor right so it's like in that context do you want to keep helping

00:31:31.040 these rich people by keeping the tap on with mass immigration for all this cheap labor i think

00:31:35.200 that's a great point i don't think that by cutting their access to cheap labor is the most effective

00:31:42.480 way to sort of rein them in so you know to hold them back you know to keep them from growing

00:31:47.920 you're talking about the ruling class yeah i think there's other steps we can take to sort of um

00:31:53.840 what's the word dispel the inequalities between the ruling class and the laborers and preventing these

00:32:01.280 these migrant workers from coming is not one of them

00:32:07.200 okay so but so you agree that with mass immigration it does allow more cheap foreign labor yes

00:32:13.840 but i think there are other we are we think we should keep helping out the rich these these

00:32:20.080 massive corporations with the cheap foreign labor we should keep the cheap foreign labor going that's

00:32:23.760 a byproduct an unfortunate byproduct no no i'm telling you like like the people who want to make this

00:32:30.880 policy to have this influx of cheap foreign labor it is the rich it is the right right i'm saying that

00:32:38.080 i'm saying that the rich the ruling class benefiting from these these migrant workers is an unfortunate

00:32:44.880 byproduct it is and i'm telling you this is the main purpose that they want mass immigration is for

00:32:50.000 the cheap labor right i believe it's their main purpose that is their main purpose so it's not the

00:32:56.000 byproduct it's the main reason and and that's why the a will put up with our social services being

00:33:01.520 overwhelmed because it helps our business we don't care it's it's the main it's the main incentive of

00:33:06.640 the ruling class but it is not the main incentive of those moving here oh yeah yeah for sure yeah main

00:33:12.880 incentive of what the immigration policies the system is supposed to be for the main incentive of

00:33:18.480 that is to have people come over who are valuable who are an asset to our country provide to the economy

00:33:24.400 build our infrastructure build our economy and eventually just just yeah have more people who

00:33:29.200 are providing you know more benefits to this country that's the main incentive of immigration

00:33:34.480 it's been bastardized by the ruling class how do we know that the the rich aren't just telling you

00:33:38.880 that to support immigration i don't think that they're telling that us that at all i don't think

00:33:42.960 i mean it's a good thing yeah they could be saying it it's not where i hear it from right this is like

00:33:47.440 my own personal obviously it's not going to be some rich fat guy who's like yeah we love we love

00:33:52.000 immigration because it is why do you think that the immigration policy is what it is like what

00:33:58.720 do you think is the reason that the government the rich are bringing people here yeah so you know if

00:34:04.480 you look a lot across the world you'll see a lot of different countries that are struggling maybe

00:34:10.160 they're not like a third world country maybe they're like a second world country but the thing

00:34:14.000 is if you're a rich and powerful corporation you kind of love countries to be destitute you love them

00:34:19.680 to be suffering because you can enslave them you can make them go at your little you know workshop

00:34:24.640 and i think i'm very cynical i'm very i think i'm very cynical i think that the rich and powerful are

00:34:30.640 trying to get first world countries and slowly denigrate them slowly denigrate them you're here

00:34:37.040 to tell us all about the evils of the rich people and the corporations here you're not here you're not

00:34:42.880 here blaming it on immigrants right because there's more to it understand who the real who the real

00:34:50.000 people that are causing the problem are right now i never said i never blamed it on immigrants i never

00:34:57.040 blamed it on immigrants i'm here to change policy you kept telling me oh no no it's because of it and

00:35:02.080 it's like no this is part of an incentive it's you know it's it's geeky for sure changing policy is

00:35:08.560 important so why not spend more focus on getting the lobbies out of politics getting the corporations

00:35:15.040 out of the politics the thing is though like that sounds great like eating the rich sounds great

00:35:20.160 getting rid of the lobbyists sounds great thank you um sounds great it sounds great but how do you do

00:35:28.400 that how do you get rid of lobbyists like like the way that power works in which people are here to get

00:35:35.040 you know to promote anti-immigration policy by being in mass being you know voicing their opinion

00:35:40.800 it's the same way to voice the opinion to get the political the corporation lobbies out of politics

00:35:46.000 yeah and then all the communists march those people out of here were you here a few hours ago i don't

00:35:51.200 know about all these communists i just i just want to get the corporations i didn't mean to assume

00:35:55.440 the uh the agenda or the ideal i don't know if they're communists or not but hey speaking of

00:35:59.920 communism this is a bit of an aside sure but did you know that trees have a root system yeah and

00:36:06.000 their root system has a fungus and this fungus this mycelium network transports nutrients and

00:36:14.160 waters across the different trees okay so if a tree is cut dead its stump will be kept alive by the root

00:36:20.880 system of the forest a tree that has a higher canopy and receives more sunlight and more nutrients

00:36:27.360 yeah where are you going with this it takes what it needs it's communism it takes what it needs and

00:36:32.800 it shares the rest of the rest of the thing it's a natural system it's what keeps forests alive

00:36:38.960 it's just an analogy right some of the best engineering in the world is based off natural

00:36:43.920 systems look at stealth bombers there actually is a thing in nature which mimics capitalism that is the

00:36:51.040 endless growth right you see where i'm going with this it's it's a virus it's cancer okay cancer is

00:36:59.360 a natural example of the capitalist system where all the resources are consumed and it grows out of

00:37:06.640 control so um i don't know much about this example but like i like to like make the real world

00:37:13.440 one-to-one example where like obviously the nazis were bad they killed millions of people like if you

00:37:19.440 look if you look at the death toll if you look at the death toll of communism hold on hold on it's

00:37:25.440 it's very it's the biggest the nazis are nazism the nazis are not as bad usually i'm trying to speak

00:37:33.200 your language because usually people are like oh nazis and we never want that again but it's like did

00:37:37.040 you know that communism trumped trumped nazism by like tens of millions of dead bodies it was a

00:37:43.200 dictatorship it was an authoritarian dictator it was a communist system it was an authoritarian

00:37:48.720 dictatorship it was a strong man who used who used populist communist views he used populist

00:37:55.920 communist views and then he pulled the rug out he did what he did so why why does why does everyone

00:38:01.920 who i've talked to who has lived under communism totally disagree with you tell me why it's because

00:38:08.480 we don't have the same definition of communism okay that's the reason because when so the people

00:38:14.160 so the people who lived under communism in romania for example or for poland how is that different

00:38:19.040 from your version it's a different thing we're talking about two different things and you think

00:38:25.280 it's you think communism is one thing and someone who is pro-communism okay someone who is pro-communism

00:38:34.400 is not pro the death of tens of millions of people yeah like is that what you think like is that what

00:38:41.520 you think he was saying i think i think you guys are incredibly naive and don't realize okay hold

00:38:48.240 on hold on let me try this let me try this let me try this let me try this let me try this capitalism

00:38:52.880 sucks because labor is a liability no no here's here labor is a liability no one invests in the labor

00:39:01.520 force it's considered a suck of money here's my version communist or sorry capitalism sucks because

00:39:08.960 there's a lot of power in a very fused amount of hands would you agree with that it's authoritarian well

00:39:16.000 it creates corruption because all like a few group of people have like a whole bunch of power

00:39:21.760 i don't think that's the reason it's bad no i think that's part of it yeah it's all connected but

00:39:27.760 the reason it's bad is because sorry let me finish my point what i'm getting at is if you think that's

00:39:34.240 part of the problem a huge amount of power in a few hands with capitalism it gets even worse with

00:39:40.480 communism it's even more power and even fewer hands and and my world view that i think i really

00:39:47.760 differ from left-wing people is i think all humans suck actually i think a lot of them have the capacity

00:39:53.360 for good and evil i agree and it's like everybody should have the right to vote i don't think everyone

00:39:58.240 let's go based based let's go i don't i really i think it's great i think it's a privilege one in three

00:40:04.320 ontarioans one in three ontarians voted in the last provincial election one in three yeah

00:40:12.400 only one of those voted i do want to get going i do want to ask another spicy question though which

00:40:19.520 is yeah i have a question for you yeah do you believe that the communist policies the communists

00:40:26.320 the policies that affected all that death toll do you think that those policies were inherently

00:40:32.560 communist ideas i don't think famine and starvation is a communist ideal there was famine there was

00:40:39.680 there was withholding of goods from the people that's not a very that's not a very communist idea

00:40:44.880 when people are communists you think everybody's gonna have everything i think it has a bad track

00:40:50.400 record yes sir it has a bad track record i think it has a bad track record just like america in the

00:40:56.080 middle east they have a terrible track record yeah last 20 years and here's the thing if we don't

00:41:02.000 immigrate people in here and assimilate them into our country the east will the east will east well

00:41:09.200 migrant workers are needed it happens it happens in aquatics right so all right that's a loss of power

00:41:16.960 that's a further what what is because there's a couple signs that are like everyone is welcome

00:41:23.680 everyone is welcome what is a canadian

00:41:31.040 someone with canadian citizenship okay so so so someone who got the piece of paper to say they're a

00:41:36.480 citizen i think technically i guess yeah that's a that's a valid answer someone who looks at a maple

00:41:42.560 leaf and smiles i got like i got like a row of those trees on my neighborhood every fall every spring

00:41:49.120 it's like nice okay so what do you think it is get it uh i think there's layers to it i think your

00:41:55.280 definition of a canadian citizen well there's a thing called you had one-liners this is you don't have

00:42:01.840 a one-line answer to your own spicy questions what is a canadian one sentence go a canadian are the people

00:42:08.880 the brave explorers and the people who innovated and settled the land they are anglo-saxon and francophone

00:42:17.760 and they're part and they're and they're part of the red ensign flag i'm talking about what an

00:42:22.400 ethnic canadian is based on history history oh now you're changing it to it what an ethnic canadian is

00:42:27.520 based on history but your original question was what is a canadian is yeah now you're changing you're

00:42:34.000 just changing it now no i'm not a pure canadian i'm not a pure canadian no but but you know i like to

00:42:39.440 still live here you still work here you reside here well right now we have a lot of people coming here

00:42:46.160 who are earning their citizenship and they're like i am canadian just like you and like they

00:42:50.160 speak hindi and it's like well historically there actually is a thing that is a canadian ethnically

00:42:57.120 based on history it was an ethnogenesis a little bit of metis or a little bit of the indigenous

00:43:02.560 mixed with anglos and francophones and it's actually on our original flag the red ensign flag

00:43:08.080 of uh english french scottish and irish and yeah so there is a historical precedent to

00:43:14.800 ethnically what a canadian is semantics because if you explained your definition of a canadian to

00:43:20.640 this person who just earned their canadian citizenship they would probably agree and be

00:43:24.640 like yeah i am i don't fit that definition yeah i'm just trying to start that conversation to realize

00:43:30.560 like you know there's a difference between the canadian citizen uh an ethnic canadian and there's

00:43:34.880 also like a heritage canadian who's someone who is uh basically came here but toward the 70s and was

00:43:40.320 part of settling the west and whatever canadian you're forgetting yeah and they are you know it

00:43:47.280 uh people in india who haven't moved here yet there's one no there's one more uh respect their

00:43:53.120 lands and their nation oh the indigenous uh there's that one more canadians who almost left out yeah

00:43:59.920 well i mentioned them in the in the founding stock because they did there was some ethnogenesis there

00:44:04.560 your answer to the question of what is a canadian is two paragraphs long yeah no no i think

00:44:09.920 your answer is if they are an ethnic canadian right that's your answer uh in terms of what a true

00:44:16.800 canadian is like yeah yeah okay so a canadian a canadian is an ethnic canadian let's get it

00:44:25.200 and that is what the french and british yes why just the french and british what about all the other

00:44:34.720 people that because because because they were here uh to found the country and they were actually

00:44:40.480 here before the country was even founded in some cases for hundreds of years before it was founded

00:44:45.440 so they were like the euro the european people who are here who are learning how to canoe and learning

00:44:52.000 how to like whatever you think that french and british descendants people descended from them

00:44:58.480 are more canadian than any other canadian uh ethically yeah and that's just based on history

00:45:06.480 and so what's your point um it's just to anchor the conversation in historical fact

00:45:13.280 and so what's the conversation well the conversation when we talk about pierre polly have said our

00:45:19.840 nationalism is not based on birthplace bloodline or background and i think that's total

00:45:25.120 bullshit i think i think that nationalism should be based on the history we should be recognizing

00:45:30.160 the people who founded the country and that's the thing people say oh you just want everyone to leave

00:45:34.960 i'm like no but if you're here you should have some respect for the people who founded the country i

00:45:39.760 don't think that's really that radical yes but what about the people that were here before canada

00:45:48.480 that's who i'm talking about before that well they're incorporated as well you didn't include them

00:45:54.640 you said french and british descendants of french and british quite frankly they weren't so on the

00:46:00.480 ball for like founding confederation and helping build railroads and helping organize building

00:46:05.760 buildings i'm their society wasn't recognized as a as a society right but like to have a nation

00:46:13.440 you need sovereignty to have a sovereignty you need to have like an organizational government and

00:46:19.280 respectfully the the the anglos and the francos were able to accomplish that to have a nation is

00:46:25.200 to believe that you have ownership over the land yeah i think it's more official though when you

00:46:30.880 actually have like the power over the land and like to kind of like manage it that comes well yeah so to

00:46:36.800 claim ownership you have to have power defense you have to be able to keep your stake in the land yeah

00:46:41.840 that's sovereign that's sovereignty yeah that's sovereignty yeah so if a people if a society

00:46:46.320 doesn't believe in land ownership there's no recognition of the people from the one side hey

00:46:54.640 man what happened happens and like it's true i'm not going to sit here and say like oh indigenous were

00:47:01.360 always treated really well like no no not at all no i'm not saying that what happened happened right

00:47:07.600 in a few decades this country is going to be a different place so why do you say that

00:47:16.480 for exactly why you're here it's because you're afraid that the ethnic makeup of this country is

00:47:22.960 changing what do you mean you're right what do you mean different place and in the in the next few

00:47:27.600 decades when people like me and you are not the dominant uh the majority majority you know

00:47:39.920 you know what people are going to say you know what what happened happened do you think it'll still

00:47:45.280 be canada i don't know we'll see i mean it'll probably still be called canada by the way canada

00:47:52.320 is an indigenous word from an indigenous language sure did you know that i did yeah

00:47:58.320 well what does that make you like why why do you think canada has a well it turns out the white it

00:48:06.240 turns out the white folk did respect the indigenous at least to name it after you know an indigenous term

00:48:11.760 right it wasn't all bad it wasn't all is it your position that the settlers to canada yeah the

00:48:19.360 founders respected the indigenous people is that your position i wouldn't say it's like just

00:48:25.760 respected them it was a much more convoluted relationship i'm sure so it's your position that

00:48:31.840 they had a convoluted relationship that's how you would characterize canadian history i mean bro

00:48:37.920 i think there's a reason you avoided the iroquois question right no i don't have to avoid that question

00:48:43.440 well what do you want to talk about it fine you can make genocide it was bad you can you can make

00:48:50.240 the argument that some of these indigenous tribes were savages you could make that argument so that's

00:48:56.720 it's what about ism again but it's totally relevant to what we're talking about let's say that let's say

00:49:01.920 some of the native people here were were bad and they killed each other and had slaves and all that

00:49:08.000 yeah sure what's your point it has nothing to do with the argument that the founding canadians were

00:49:14.320 also bad yeah but they created a civilized society whereas the indigenous people did not would you

00:49:20.480 rather live in a place with savages and slaves or with a civilized society you're right no you have

00:49:26.960 your facts wrong about indigenous societies here's another question for you why is it that everybody who's

00:49:36.080 an immigrant or a refugee is trying to move to a white majority country why are people trying to

00:49:42.160 move to india why are people trying to move to africa why it's because the founders the the white people

00:49:49.920 like us you know the empire like we're not really part of the empire but the empire of you know the us

00:49:59.600 and and the uk they're raping the whole world to death okay that's why and all the the resources and

00:50:06.960 wealth are concentrated in these countries because we stole it all by lying murdering and doing genocide

00:50:17.440 so why don't in and day out for hundreds of years so why don't these countries steal the resources back

00:50:23.040 instead of like invading these other countries that have the resources it's not as simple as that

00:50:28.080 right like it's like it's easier than it sounds well i don't i don't think it's as simple as that

00:50:32.800 either if they just white people rape the world and that's why they have photos and images of of the

00:50:40.400 english conquest of to capitalize on the entire world filling up the train and artifacts and gold

00:50:45.840 so why doesn't india better itself for example why don't why why don't african coverage better

00:50:51.600 themselves for example it's bettering itself all countries are better i'll tell you the difference

00:50:57.600 between some countries and the the empire countries that are right like a country like

00:51:06.800 the the not everyone wants to take over the world and steal all the resources from everyone else some

00:51:14.960 people just want to be left alone like take take some countries in africa a lot of the patriots

00:51:21.120 feel that way by the way generally speaking there are a lot of countries that if the u.s or the uh if

00:51:30.560 the imf and the world bank which is institutions that are you know kind of controlled by the u.s and the uk

00:51:39.600 they are holding countries down with uh structural adjustment programs and crippling debt that can

00:51:50.880 never be repaid so it's not that india and other countries aren't bettering themselves it's that they

00:51:57.680 have our boot on their neck and it's been like that for centuries and well i think that uh canadian

00:52:06.720 institutions in our government is kind of like dominated by foreign special interests

00:52:11.600 foreign interests and also like corporate interests and they don't really serve the people at all

00:52:16.320 if we circle back to lobbies yeah the the populist interest is not at the heart of the politics

00:52:21.280 local municipal municipal provincial federal but i have a question for you sure do i would you consider

00:52:28.400 me maybe not ethically canadian but culturally canadian let's go uh well you have the blue jays hat on

00:52:34.640 i guess it's just a matter of wearing clothing then yeah clothing the way i speak yeah yeah i gotta

00:52:42.000 listen to right if i always tell people i hate american pharmaceuticals because canada invented insulin

00:52:49.920 and and patented it for a dollar so everybody can have access and now they can that's a whole

00:52:55.680 other thing though well hey i'll say this like you assimilated to some extent right you speak english

00:53:02.640 that's great and a lot of people are coming here and like so there's like there's signs in like

00:53:07.520 hindi going up and shit and it's like you're almost there yeah so we look to some of the the scandinavian

00:53:14.800 practices in immigration they have a lot of migrant workers because a lot of the local people aren't

00:53:20.640 interested in agriculture so the migrant workers that come there before they're allowed to move into the

00:53:26.080 main metropolis they have to spend a year or two in the rural areas to help assimilate i'm first

00:53:32.560 generation i was born here i was brazen the system every morning i sang the canadian anthem i can still

00:53:38.320 know it okay i've assimilated currently for the last six years people have been immigrating here

00:53:46.080 working hard and we can talk about the impact they have but the fact is there's at least three gen three

00:53:52.080 years worth of people who are here have their citizenship and their pr they have families

00:53:58.000 they have children now those children are going to be raised in a culturally canadian environment

00:54:03.440 and they will assimilate into the canadian environment do you see it going the other

00:54:07.120 way at all though where like there's an influx of people from punjab or india and like they're

00:54:12.000 kind of like reverse assimilating back to being more like like punjabi i i you know what when they first

00:54:17.760 come here because it's so difficult for them to find success because what we talked about earlier

00:54:24.080 with the institutions of education charging them out the arm and ass because it's so difficult there

00:54:30.640 is comfort and being in people who are like you like-minded having community that is a support but

00:54:37.520 eventually when they have children and those children in the next 20 years are like me they will

00:54:43.360 be culturally canadians that is that is the truth i can't read or write in punjabi hindi i can speak it

00:54:51.360 but i can't read or write in it you know what i mean so 100 years ago we gotta get going so we had

00:54:57.760 this conversation 100 years ago you and i we were here and that time it was the italians we were the

00:55:04.960 immigrants there was way too many fucking italians coming to toronto with their weird foreign food

00:55:11.040 and now there's a pizza place on every corner and now you know what that pizza place that italian

00:55:18.400 culture that has become part of canada that's what you're talking about assimilating into you're

00:55:24.480 talking about assimilating into a culture that is already fully fucking diluted by immigration

00:55:32.560 successive waves of immigration show me one part of our society that is related to the

00:55:40.960 french fur traders and english brampton we don't have that brampton brampton brampton is no what

00:55:49.760 well and that's my question like does brampton look even look like canada these days or yes it's a

00:55:54.960 country in canada that's what canada looks like no but if you go to mine it reminds me of 20 years

00:56:00.480 ago 30 years ago when my parents first came here and they were hard yeah there's more of them and

00:56:05.760 there's a lot and people are moving out yeah yeah what about the uh the jewish area in toronto do you

00:56:13.600 look at that area and say this is there's jew there's israeli flags everywhere do you look at that and

00:56:20.080 say this doesn't even look like canada is that what you say when you look at that scarborough well

00:56:25.280 is it or not are they part of canada most gta are they part of canada i mean they're here but it's

00:56:32.400 just like i just feel like with something like brampton when you have like 20 foot monkey statues

00:56:38.880 being put up it's kind of like okay this this looks this looks a little bit more like india than canada

00:56:44.640 right now i'm not gonna lie what about a synagogue then because the founding fathers of canada

00:56:49.200 well i mean jews are kind of like stateless aren't they stateless i mean they have israel but that's

00:56:55.520 pretty new sorry is israel a state or not i'm confused i mean before israel jews were stateless

00:57:04.320 people but but now they're not so they have a state yeah yeah so but when you when you look at

00:57:13.680 the italian little italy it's the same thing my friend as branson it's a group of immigrants who

00:57:21.760 came here and they didn't assimilate they kept their culture guys

00:57:27.920 one of the aesthetics is just closer to what you see

00:57:30.000 one second though yeah i think there's like a difference though no there's a there's a difference

00:57:37.920 in a lot more than that i think it's a skin color it's a skin color well i mean even attitudes around

00:57:43.920 hygiene in india are quite alarming compared to do you use shampoo yeah you shampoo yeah shampoo is a

00:57:50.320 a hindi word do you that's ironic do you use soap is an islamic invention okay hold on

00:57:59.920 alchemy science but like my like indian people are dirty that's what you just said right if you look

00:58:08.160 at statistics of the norms in india it's quite alarming yeah no we're talking about canada though

00:58:13.520 yeah but 40 percent of new immigrants are coming from india so your position is that

00:58:21.680 canadian uh people from india who are in canada now are dirty and they don't walk is that what

00:58:28.160 you're saying you're you're sort of oversimplifying it i think that um people who have come from india

00:58:35.600 are like some of them are kind of very disrespectful to the environment um you know i won't cherry pick

00:58:42.560 on the people that have been defecating in public or whatever but um it's it's certainly canadians

00:58:48.720 are alarmed when they see this happening in their country people who are not people who are not

00:58:53.440 respecting the environment defecating in public is not an issue of the people but it's an issue of the

00:58:58.080 infrastructure at large not having enough bathrooms bro are you sure are you serious are

00:59:02.080 you serious right now you don't you don't think it has anything to do with the culture of india no i

00:59:07.920 think that i think that when you sit in public i think that when you sit on the sand and you look

00:59:12.400 out on the water it's much more relaxing for a bowel movement you should try it sometime so we should

00:59:20.240 we should shit on the beaches more salt water yeah and let it flow out so we should

00:59:25.520 shit on the beaches more i mean you're not swimming there there's too much pollution even without the

00:59:30.800 shit i'd rather shit than swim there is it your position i don't think an italian would agree with

00:59:37.040 you i mean i don't like e coli in my water neither do i dude right so why are we sitting on the beach

00:59:43.280 because there's already e coli there might as well use it what it's good for if people are going to

00:59:47.920 pollute the waters if if the pollution of the water you see what i mean if the pollution of our

00:59:58.080 waters in our parks is coming up from the top why do we have to stop it like why do i have to take a

01:00:03.120 personal use the bathroom dude they're all fools man they all say go somewhere else okay okay i gotta go

01:00:10.000 go map but thank you yeah yeah i appreciate you chatting honestly i appreciate it okay so it seems

01:00:16.800 to me your position that the reason immigration from india is bad is because indian people defecate in

01:00:28.320 public no that's an oversimplification that's an oversimplification my main thing is the strain

01:00:36.160 on our institutions on our like systems our social systems people can't even fit inside the uh

01:00:41.920 the uh shelters that's just one thing okay um but the culture the cultural thing is also one as well

01:00:50.080 there's people coming here who are just like not respectful of our laws whatsoever

01:00:54.640 and i'm sorry i feel like that guy was a good example he's like there's e coli already um what

01:00:59.280 i hope so i think that the disagreement between you and the people who've been talking to you today

01:01:09.680 is that you uh appear without actually saying it uh like up front i'm a racist no no you seem to be

01:01:22.320 blaming the uh problems of society on the actions of some immigrants well well let's let's reframe that

01:01:32.240 let me just finish okay sure because and then i i i'm not necessarily disagreeing with the fact that

01:01:39.600 yeah so maybe an indian person should in the park that that has happened right but i don't blame

01:01:46.480 i'm i know or i believe that the problem is not with the the people the problem is with the system

01:01:57.120 right i think that we could have a system that was better and then the problems like the health

01:02:04.480 care system and the shelters would would get better because if you if you stop all immigration

01:02:10.000 it doesn't solve the shelter issue there's plenty of old stock canadians in shelters would it help

01:02:18.720 contribute to that though like helping i don't think it would because our problems why not the

01:02:23.520 problems of our society are hard problems because our entire economic system is not as good as we think

01:02:32.640 it is sure sure so let's go forward to take care of our own society i i agree with that i agree

01:02:39.840 with that and when it comes we need to have lots of immigrants come because they have money and

01:02:45.280 they support our economy and our way of life we are totally dependent on a constant influx of

01:02:54.640 immigration they need they need jobs for money and there is a job shortage no there isn't there is a

01:03:02.480 temporary foreign worker program that incentivizes hiring foreigners over people who are born here

01:03:07.520 no if the people the fact is is there are jobs that you or i would not be willing or able to do

01:03:19.280 because it's hard work and it's low paying and our economy functions on basically a form of slavery

01:03:29.920 right sure so i like what you're saying in terms of it's a system problem the system is a problem

01:03:36.000 yeah and you see all of these issues whether it's the health care system whether it's the housing

01:03:41.120 crisis where there's the job shortage whether it's crime and what i'm just really frustrated with

01:03:46.720 is you know immigration is a public policy it's a total thing that impacts all of these things and

01:03:53.360 so i guess to reverse it why shouldn't immigration be talked about in conjunction with trying to solve

01:03:59.840 some of these problems talk about all the time but usually only to do more of it no no who's

01:04:06.320 who's ever suggested to prevent or slow down immigration other than like polyev

01:04:11.360 it barely talks about it well polyev is a leader of one of the major political parties that represents a

01:04:18.000 huge percentage okay so well how about yourself why why not consider immigration to help

01:04:23.520 you know why not consider slowing down immigration to help address one of these problems well i mean

01:04:31.600 i'm not the immigration minister like it's not really it's kind of out of my lane like we can all have

01:04:38.720 opinions on immigration yeah but really when the rubber hits the road and you have to make the tough

01:04:44.400 decisions yeah there is probably a lot of information that neither you or i are fully cognizant of well

01:04:51.200 here's one there might be up to hundreds of thousands of people who are going to stay here

01:04:56.320 with expired visas uh if we were to enforce the law we would have to deport these people

01:05:03.680 that's just enforcing the law okay but we don't do that yeah and i kind of think that's a problem

01:05:10.160 personally because now we're not enforcing our laws and now it's like anyone can come here stay on a visa

01:05:15.840 overextend their visa and now all of ours all the systems are going to be negatively impacted because

01:05:20.960 we haven't accounted for the people who are now here illegally so i get that that's your opinion

01:05:25.280 and it's my opinion that if you did that first of all it would not go like you think it would go

01:05:30.880 it would be really ugly oh i think it would be ugly too yeah i don't think it would be uh i don't

01:05:35.520 think it would be a very fun thing at all and i think it would destabilize our society and ruin our

01:05:40.800 economy because wait so trying to remove illegal people would destabilize this

01:05:45.920 disabled society yeah yeah so we need the illegal people here for stability yes they do all the hard

01:05:54.560 work okay did you not you really not know that hey man i appreciate your time thank you i don't

01:06:02.800 know if you appreciated mine but i do appreciate it i mean i stayed here this long so yeah

01:06:11.200 i gotta go yeah have a good one guys okay that was over an hour drag there you have it folks i was

01:06:19.680 exhausted after that my mind was just felt like mush to be honest but if you enjoyed that then please

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01:06:39.600 soon bye what's going on here are you are you telling people not to talk to me is that what's going on

01:06:47.760 i'm just trying to ask people what they think of the death of charlie kirk this is a good thing a bad thing

01:07:02.800 not a big not a big conversation guys okay

Greg Wycliffe - September 16, 2025

Talking To Communists

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