Greg Wycliffe - Trump Annexing Canada？ 🔴Randy Hillier INTERVIEW🔴Canadian Identity🔴Trudeau Resigns？🔴

00:00:00.000 welcome everybody to 2025 i think this is my first live stream of 2025 hope you had a good

00:00:13.120 holiday season i'm here with the one and only randy hillier former mpp here in ontario for uh

00:00:21.280 frontenac kingston and lanark county is that right i might have got the order wrong

00:00:26.560 Pretty close. It usually goes Lanark, Frontenac, and Kingston. But other than the order, you got the words correct.

00:00:35.200 Fantastic. So I am ready to become an American patriot. Maybe I, I might be, be, you know, assume we might be all American. We're going to be talking all about this, this topic of being annexed to America. Is this good for Canadians? Is this bad for Canadians giving up our sovereignty to daddy Trump?

00:00:57.220 We're going to be talking about this from the financial angle, from the Canadian identity

00:01:01.160 angle.

00:01:02.380 So it should be a very fun and fruitful conversation.

00:01:06.220 I listened to the Twitter space that you did about it just the other night.

00:01:12.600 And well, let's kind of start there.

00:01:14.980 What did you think of the conversation that came with that Twitter space, Randy?

00:01:20.060 Oh, I think it was exceptionally good.

00:01:22.740 you know i've not done a lot of twitter spaces but it was a good quality i believe high caliber

00:01:30.980 conversation in large part a lot of good discussion came up and i think some of the unseen advantages

00:01:42.820 were also developed and came out the conversations about how canada has been in a state of

00:01:50.180 dysfunction for a long time and also a paralysis of constitutional change so it was good that

00:01:58.660 this should be seen as an opportunity to speak to a lot of the failings that are going on in our

00:02:09.380 in our own governance as well as looking at other options and i and i should add just for a moment

00:02:15.060 Greg, you know, the threat of tariffs and the annexation has been present throughout our entire history.

00:02:28.100 Our first free trade debate and threat goes back to the 1830s.

00:02:36.060 And you may, throughout the 1800s, early 1900s, whether it came in the phrase of reciprocity or John A. McDonald's, the old flag, the old nation, the old policy slogan, up until Brian Mulroney's NAFTA discussions, these have been underway throughout our entire history.

00:03:02.480 And I would say that they have always been used on both sides of the border, but especially here to coerce and cajole Canadians to feel threatened by the Americans and to, you know, there's the boogeyman down below the 49th.

00:03:26.720 And it has been used by all our political parties as a means to solidify and protect their exclusivity on the governance of our country.

00:03:49.160 and some might even say and i would say um protect their protection racket that the political

00:03:56.760 establishment operate in this country okay uh so so you're a dirty you're a dirty yank you're a 0.79

00:04:04.720 traitor you're you're sympathetic to these dirty yank i'm just i'm just kidding but uh actually i 0.85

00:04:09.980 found out we're not live yet on facebook uh your assistant might need the code um if you want to 0.57

00:04:17.220 get that over to him real quick sorry about that we tried to test that beforehand but for those

00:04:22.380 who don't know we are streaming on youtube on x slash twitter and we will be starting up soon on

00:04:29.380 the one and only facebook.com you may have seen can i leave this show for a moment and see if i

00:04:36.700 can do this or i'm not sure how uh if you want i could mute you and you could just tell me and

00:04:43.120 then i could relay it to our friend if you want does that work that'll work

00:04:48.220 all right all righty we're back um yeah so i um let's let's start with this question because i

00:05:09.400 I think it's very interesting.

00:05:10.380 And to be fair, I'm a little confused by all this annexation because it sounds, correct me if I'm wrong,

00:05:22.460 America is going in a sort of hostile fashion going to be like, we are coming after you, Canada.

00:05:28.000 We are going to impose significant financial penalties until you do what we want.

00:05:34.240 So I guess my question is, even if Canadians wanted to become part of America, would we even have the power to do that?

00:05:43.240 Like if the people in Ottawa don't want to become part of America, then, you know, what happens there?

00:05:51.120 Like do we even have any power or is it still going to be up to Justin Trudeau, the other guy, Carney, or the other guy, Polly F?

00:06:00.480 You know what I'm saying?

00:06:01.160 we have we have jurisprudence on this already that the supreme court has already ruled that

00:06:08.200 the provinces do have the lawful and legal authority to separate from the confederation

00:06:15.800 okay that's quebec had a number of referendums you know there's a clear-cut um criteria that

00:06:24.200 must be followed to do so but that is within every province's ability at the current time

00:06:31.960 so so who's who would pull the trigger who get who has the actual power who has the actual

00:06:37.560 authority to make that happen in the case of alberta or quebec for example well each province

00:06:44.280 um either through public pressure or political pressure could announce a referendum uh to

00:06:52.040 separate from the confederation and as we know quebec has done that on a few occasions

00:06:59.880 the referendums have never been successful close but not quite and then the province would be

00:07:06.840 outside of confederation and they can choose what to do as they wish at that time whether it's to be

00:07:12.440 a standalone nation or attach themselves with some other entity and you know that is part of

00:07:21.080 canada's history as well like newfoundland joined confederation through a referendum

00:07:27.480 and the choice was do they want to be a standalone country do they want to attach themselves with the

00:07:33.000 united states or attach themselves to canada in 1949 and they chose canada in in 49 so

00:07:40.600 So that is the law of the land as we sit here today.

00:07:52.040 Now, let's get into the more cynical side of things.

00:07:58.700 Like this idea that, oh, oh, we're just going to add another state.

00:08:02.960 We're just going to add another state of Canada.

00:08:05.200 um i feel like that's to think that we're just going to be like another state is is very you

00:08:12.440 know naive thinking uh like in another way i mean there's a there's a lot to the sort of exception

00:08:19.020 how how adding canada to the u.s would be very exceptional in terms of like it's not just like

00:08:24.340 wyoming it's not just like some other you know chunk of land it's a massive piece of land that

00:08:29.940 is larger than america itself with a lot of uh you know oceans attached to it a lot of you know

00:08:36.260 a lot going on in terms of uh land mass so you know this is one of the reasons you know it was a

00:08:44.580 very um broad but little there was no details to trump's um proposal to an ex-canada zero

00:08:56.340 And that's why I sent the president a letter last week saying, let's flesh out some of these details.

00:09:07.320 What are you actually proposing here?

00:09:09.280 Are you proposing that Canada as a whole join or be annexed as one state?

00:09:16.880 Or are you talking about each of our provinces joining as a separate state, each with their own elected senators and each with their own congressional seats?

00:09:31.340 Are you proposing that this be done through referendums?

00:09:35.160 You know, so I sent off that letter to Trump to ask for some clarification so that Canadians can actually make an informed choice, or at least before you accept or reject a proposal, you need to have some meat on the bones and some details.

00:09:57.860 So I've sent that off. And I think it's, these are important considerations. You know, obviously, well, I spelled it out. I think this idea of having a singular state called Canada is a, would be a foolhardy idea.

00:10:19.760 And, you know, that's my position.

00:10:25.960 But there may be some merit to it if each province would join as a separate state.

00:10:36.460 But I think, you know, the other thing that is really important to me, Greg, is that I find such astonishing and perplexing, you know, that here all our political establishment parties for decades.

00:10:55.400 And I mean, for most of my lifetime, have been degrading, diminishing, debasing, and even going so far as Justin Trudeau saying that there is no Canadian identity.

00:11:10.520 And now, and for the last couple of years, we've kept our flag at half mass because we're supposed to be ashamed of our heritage and our history.

00:11:20.620 And now, with Trump's single words of a 51st state, we all are supposed to rally around this flag that we've been ashamed of for so long, and who Trudeau says, we have no identity.

00:11:37.400 Now, this is the zenith of hypocrisy, in my view, that, and it's not just Trudeau, we have been willing to accept an invasion of immigration, of rampant and uncontrolled immigration to that diminishes and dilutes our Canadian heritage and our identity.

00:11:59.700 but we're supposed to fear the americans uh you know i can't reconcile those that the paradox of

00:12:07.940 the behaviors and actions of our established political parties with their words

00:12:14.900 very very well said and we had conversations before this interview where you were saying

00:12:22.660 this is a good opportunity to talk about canadian identity and maybe reassert our canadian identity

00:12:27.900 and ironically though it's left-wingers who are trying to do that more so it seems

00:12:34.380 you know it's it's left-wingers it's trudeau supporters it's these ndp supporters it's

00:12:39.540 jagmeet singh saying you're not hey hey trump hands off our canadian identity

00:12:45.120 uh says the guy in the turban um the hypocrisy is greatest on the left but

00:12:52.000 the right is not much better in this regard uh you know uh pierre thinks uh canada will be much

00:13:00.780 better if we have direct flights to amritsar rather than to washington dc that isn't that

00:13:07.620 clip crazy yeah isn't that clip just absolutely crazy did you see the the recent one that

00:13:13.560 surfaced he's like surrounded by all of this indian media i guess and he's just like i seek

00:13:19.800 community i got i got seek people on my cabinet top members of the cabinet and uh amatsar amatsar

00:13:26.140 he says it three different times in the course of a minute and it's like oh my gosh this this is our

00:13:31.320 conservative party guy uh quite alarming yeah but if you know if we stay on our present path

00:13:39.740 there will not be a canadian identity there will not be a canadian culture

00:13:45.940 um and uh but we're not supposed to fear that we're supposed to embrace that uh but fear

00:13:53.920 um the americans and you know i'll go back like donald trump has uh asserted that our border is

00:14:01.940 an artificial border that it's just a line on a map um but you know i think when when justin

00:14:09.040 trudeau says there is no canadian identity he's reinforcing um trump's assertion that there is no

00:14:17.020 border um yeah you know why why is it that we want to protect this if if we don't have an identity

00:14:24.920 if and according to trudeau we have never had an identity now obviously i think he's full of shit

00:14:31.780 um and uh and he's also being dishonest he might not know his identity um but i i know 0.55

00:14:41.060 what a canadian is um and everybody i know knows what a canadian is um so um but i but i do think

00:14:51.000 this is it gives us the opportunity we have been in a very dysfunctional form of confederation for

00:14:57.760 some time. And we have been in a state of political paralysis in trying to solve this

00:15:06.420 conundrum. And maybe Trump's assertion has got a real silver lining in it that maybe now we can

00:15:16.860 start addressing the problems in our nation. And that's been very exposed, very coming to light

00:15:24.680 once again with uh the different positions between alberta and in ontario uh and how to

00:15:33.360 deal with these uh the big boogeyman of tariffs from from trump yeah yeah no you bring up a lot

00:15:42.200 of good points there um with the uh the liberals acting like they're more canadian when really just

00:15:51.480 uh they've been selling us out this whole time um i mean what scares me liberals but but you know

00:16:00.080 right they they largely but not just him let's it's all established political parties yeah in my

00:16:07.320 view yeah yeah yeah um i guess why it why it spooks me a little bit is uh you know

00:16:16.880 this seems like a sort of deal with the devil you know it's like okay hey you're struggling

00:16:24.420 you're suffering all you got to do just take my hand take my hand and everything will be okay

00:16:29.760 and what scares me about this is like you can't really undo this you can't just like become part

00:16:34.240 of america and then stop being part of america like the amount of bureaucratic work paperwork

00:16:40.380 work it would take to, uh, you know, iron all this out would very much, it wouldn't be something

00:16:46.740 that's easily undone. And, um, I'm seeing so much optimism from people saying that this would be

00:16:54.720 good. And I get it. There's a lot of financial upsides. Like we were really in a, in a, in a

00:16:59.460 rough kind of spot here in Canada, um, because we don't have power here, right? We, we, the Canadian

00:17:05.180 people fear powerless so you know so why does it matter what we say or how we think it's going to

00:17:14.100 happen um i i guess like this conversation is is almost like reminiscent of sitting at a pot like

00:17:22.880 of the when i first joined politics uh with the ppc we'd have these pub nights and people would

00:17:29.420 and i didn't i didn't hang out on many of the pub nights because i because i realized after a while

00:17:32.960 it just kind of descends into, well, this is what I think the ideal society is. And this is what I

00:17:37.620 think the ideal society is. And it's like, okay, well, we have no political power. So that doesn't

00:17:42.420 really matter. And I feel like it's this conversation of becoming America, it kind of

00:17:48.000 reminds me of that. It's like, well, this could be great. And that could be great. And this could

00:17:51.940 happen. And it could be, and it's just pure optimism, and a sort of complete neglection

00:17:58.140 of the fact of like, well, will you have any political power? Will they have any political

00:18:02.160 power? No, it's going to be a bunch of bureaucrats. And what creeps me out is this idea that American 0.99

00:18:08.900 bureaucrats are going to make better decisions than the Canadian bureaucrats. You know what I'm

00:18:15.060 saying? We're familiar with Canadian bureaucrats and how much we hate them and how much they've

00:18:21.920 screwed us over. But this idea that somehow American bureaucrats who are unfamiliar with

00:18:27.700 canada and unfamiliar with canadian people are somehow going to to make better decisions and

00:18:32.900 sort of like rectify and resolve all the problems here it it seems uh kind of you know kind of like

00:18:41.540 a fantasy let me address the first thing sure if if if you are indeed powerless um and have no

00:18:49.500 influence then you are not living in a democracy you are living in communism if you do not have

00:18:57.400 any agency or influence in the outcome of your country okay so uh is that what we are that we

00:19:06.100 are helpless uh victims that we are just uh pebbles on the beach waiting for the next wave

00:19:13.320 to take us to wherever it may take us are we just a snowflake waiting for the next wind to blow us

00:19:19.880 that's not my view of being a member and a citizen of this country I'm not a helpless victim

00:19:28.120 I'm not just going to go where some political winds want to take me I may end up going there

00:19:37.000 but I'm going to fight it or or have my say in in it and I think that's you know both nations have

00:19:45.740 big problems um and but i think most of us would agree that they have a an executive branch

00:19:55.840 now elected that recognizes the problems in this nation and is uh at least has given every

00:20:03.600 indication that it is going to uh smatter and smash um the the deep state and the bureaucratic

00:20:12.060 state in the u.s no will they be will he be successful i'm not i'm not sure but at least

00:20:18.940 there's a recognition of it and in the people of the united states had the ability to vote

00:20:27.740 for their executive branch that promoted that idea here in canada obviously we have a different

00:20:35.660 system and we don't get to vote for our executive branch but i but i also want to take back

00:20:41.980 yeah one of the dysfunctions uh i mentioned ford and and smith and here uh doug ford it feels very

00:20:51.820 threatened or so he says about the uh american tariffs and and his uh solution according to

00:21:02.020 Doug Ford is for the taps to be turned off of Western energy that go to the United States

00:21:11.620 as a retaliatory measure. Now, of course, that same oil and gas that flows through the pipelines

00:21:19.480 to the United States also flows back west and north to Ontario. So if we turn off the taps

00:21:29.920 of Alberta oil and gas to the US,

00:21:33.580 the people in central Canada are going to be in the cold as well.

00:21:37.080 But he's not concerned about the welfare, the revenue,

00:21:44.700 the prosperity of the people in Alberta and Saskatchewan.

00:21:48.120 He's playing for political brownie points here in Ontario.

00:21:52.400 And he's also willing to sacrifice the huge electricity exports

00:21:58.960 from quebec uh to uh to the northeastern states uh maybe he doesn't realize that our electricity

00:22:08.080 grids are interconnected and you can't turn off our energy in one direction on electricity

00:22:15.120 um you know if we turn off our electricity there we're turning off uh the return uh so um but one

00:22:24.320 of the great problems that this exposes and this was just like the national energy program in the

00:22:29.440 80s by uh trudeau senior um the senators uh are not elected uh there's a disproportionate number

00:22:41.120 of senators uh ontario has 24 senators quebec has 24 senators um alberta has six um and they're all

00:22:51.680 appointed by what right at the moment justin trudeau but they're appointed by the prime minister

00:22:57.120 um that is one of the improvements i think everybody would say with the american system

00:23:02.960 that you do have elected senators for each jurisdiction and it's an equal amount of

00:23:10.720 senators so rhode island doesn't have any fewer or any more senators in california or texas

00:23:18.160 um you know our this really exposes how central canada ontario and quebec have

00:23:28.880 benefited greatly from confederation but at the expense of the maritimes and of our western

00:23:36.400 provinces as well and and they're willing to sacrifice the west again um to protect

00:23:43.440 uh doug ford's political position here in ontario just out of curiosity real quick um the west

00:23:51.560 minister system which we inherited i guess from uh from britain did they do the same thing where

00:23:56.540 the prime minister just uh assigns people senate seats is that the same they have a different

00:24:03.440 system their their senate is called the house of lords and it's the peerage um so not quite the

00:24:12.580 same but um um and of course they also don't have uh uh subnational but sovereign jurisdictions

00:24:21.200 there's no provinces uh they do have now wales has in scotland have a uh their own parliaments

00:24:29.600 uh and they would be close to our canadian provinces but not quite they they don't have

00:24:36.900 the ability to succeed as we do here.

00:24:41.620 Okay.

00:24:42.340 Guys, folks, if you have a question or comment for Randy Hillier, you can send a super chat

00:24:48.100 to make sure that we get to it.

00:24:50.220 We're going to keep on going down this topic of getting annexed by America.

00:24:56.620 Before we kind of go back into the pros and cons, I kind of wanted to take a step back

00:25:01.300 to you know realistically do you think this is actually the intention of trump or do you think

00:25:08.960 this is more of a sort of uh pr sort of um tactic negotiation tactic if you will the story i heard

00:25:16.960 is he really wants to get greenland but he's just putting trump on or canada on the table

00:25:21.920 to kind of you know be more more boisterous with his negotiations it's hard to speak to somebody's

00:25:30.080 motivations and no one can do anything other than speculate on that and and it's not

00:25:38.220 you know are my speculations any have any greater value or weight than your speculations

00:25:45.900 but i would say that there i think trump understands that there's a great geopolitical

00:25:51.680 problem that the Americans are facing with the rising BRICS alliance and the very significant

00:26:02.220 pressures being applied on the U.S. dollar. So, you know, I'm not sure what all his motivations

00:26:14.760 are but you can see um there is we are moving away from the unipolar uh american hegemony

00:26:26.540 uh of the world into a more multipolar uh world and um and i think yeah both all of these the

00:26:37.780 the his musings on panama on greenland and on canada may all be aligned with or part of this

00:26:50.680 changing geopolitical world that we're living in so when it comes to the bricks thing

00:26:57.920 how is us you know america and canada having a good tight relationship good trade relations

00:27:06.300 how how does that not help us compete with bricks why does it have to be us being consumed by

00:27:13.040 america for us to you know protect ourselves from the the threat of bricks i don't know why you use

00:27:19.900 the word consumed by them like if we came in as equal uh and and truly representative uh states

00:27:29.180 uh with representative democracies is that being consumed by um i mean during the space

00:27:36.700 during the space last night with uh bruce party he said himself that you know we're coming into

00:27:42.080 this negotiation from not from a place of strength like we're coming in from the people

00:27:47.320 with less cards in our hands less less sort of place to make uh and you know at the end of the

00:27:53.920 it's about power and when it comes to marketers when it comes to business when it comes to

00:28:01.660 politics i really think the states are much better at all those things and i think we would get the

00:28:07.200 short end of the stick at every single negotiation table when it comes to setting up how this would

00:28:11.700 work well well right now we're running away from the table greg we don't we're fearful of the table

00:28:18.880 Like we won't even go near it. And that's, you know, I think that puts us in a very, very dangerous and precarious position when you won't even face the adversity and sit down and challenge them.

00:28:34.460 And I have a slightly different view about our abilities as Canadians dealing with the Americans. 0.75

00:28:43.440 We have shown throughout our history that we may not be as boastful about our abilities.

00:28:53.260 We may not be as exuberant about our abilities.

00:28:57.840 But there's clearly through our history, we have shown that we're a very resilient and very tough, even though quiet culture.

00:29:08.160 And, you know, when the Americans needed toughness to keep the communist Chinese from overrunning their positions in Korea, it was the Canadians who held that cap young and went back.

00:29:27.840 down um so you know and we have a long proud uh history uh and that didn't just come about because

00:29:35.600 well we're sort of lucky and we're sort of just in the right place at the right time um

00:29:41.760 canada does indeed have this very unique uh um history and culture of being again not not boastful

00:29:52.000 but being bloody well tough and not backing down so um you know we've gone through negotiations

00:29:59.980 with the americans uh throughout our history um why would we think that we're incapable

00:30:06.940 or less than able to go through negotiations again well is do you think this is a strong

00:30:14.920 negotiation tactic from doug ford he's got the hat he's got the uh you know he's doing a press

00:30:20.320 conference um let's say you're you're in doug ford's shoes or you're in you know um what what

00:30:28.440 would you do in response to this if you had the freedom of course and you weren't shackled by some

00:30:33.080 establishment party uh you know what what would your response be or would it be simply what you

00:30:38.540 did which was sending a letter to trump to ask about the specifics of the arrangement

00:30:41.680 yeah i sit down and talk uh when somebody's offering up a proposal you sit down and talk

00:30:48.480 You know, I certainly wouldn't go out to Donald Trump and say, listen, Donald, we're going to sacrifice Alberta, Saskatchewan and our Western provinces just so I can look tough and present some optics that I'm a tough guy.

00:31:08.160 um you know and that's what he's doing here he's just presenting a uh um a false uh but important

00:31:18.300 um pr view to the canadian you know rally around the flag and i'll be holding the flag

00:31:25.960 says doug uh doug ford uh even though he's got half masked the whole time that he's standing

00:31:31.560 there so um and putting the crews to everybody else i i feel like it's completely insulting

00:31:37.940 for any canadian politician to wear a hat that says we're not for sale like you haven't sold

00:31:46.840 out the canadian people in one way or another doug ford you know like that you know what i mean

00:31:51.400 well this is you know in my time in politics i've often used a term that

00:31:56.480 you know that you should think of political parties our established political parties

00:32:01.980 is nothing less than or different than a crime family and and they run a protection racket and

00:32:09.260 you know and really if you look at the numbers in canada now over half of our total gdp

00:32:17.740 is public sector spending by our municipal provincial and federal government see they

00:32:23.180 They consume over 50% of the earnings and the efforts of all Canadians.

00:32:31.240 You know, who is attacking our families?

00:32:34.980 Is it Trump or is it our political parties?

00:32:39.720 Who is creating the homelessness that is rampant and escalating in our country?

00:32:45.440 Is it Trump or is it our political parties?

00:32:50.560 Who is it making it that it's impossible for anybody under the age of 40 in this country to be able to afford to buy a single family home and to afford to have a family?

00:33:03.540 It's not Trump and it's not the United States who's causing that.

00:33:07.240 That's our own established political parties. 0.98

00:33:10.540 Who's destroying and promoting this gender dysphoria and attacking our children? 1.00

00:33:19.480 Is it the Americans or is it our own established political parties? 0.99

00:33:24.000 But they want us to fear Donald Trump, even though they have savaged and ravaged and plundered the Canadian population to a degree.

00:33:34.180 not you know it's hard to see another um western liberal democracy being so viciously plundered 0.67

00:33:44.080 uh as it is in kenda yeah i mean you you make you make a great argument there you know who's

00:33:51.220 the real enemy what what has trump done to you um but then again one could say well he hasn't

00:33:57.080 had the trump yes he hasn't had the opportunity to uh you know screw us over yet but i do want to

00:34:02.940 uh even biden like it was biden causing these things or or before him uh obama or whatnot

00:34:11.900 no these are the policies that have been uh propagated promoted and entrenched by both

00:34:19.180 liberal and conservatives and supported by the ndp uh party in canada so like there's there's been

00:34:27.820 no choice for a long time there's been no political choice for a long time

00:34:34.860 in kenda all the three major parties are all on the same agenda yeah there's there's no doubt

00:34:43.020 about that there's no doubt about that and you know i i just i i find the you know maybe maybe

00:34:50.620 we won't even have a choice and maybe we like we will have to become part of america i don't know

00:34:55.900 But as someone who's been trying to, you know, invigorate people to give a fuck about Canada, part of my language.

00:35:04.440 But ever since I've joined Canadian politics, it's like pulling teeth to try to get people to actually care about this place.

00:35:09.980 Because a lot of the time we have Americanized media.

00:35:12.880 They care more about the Mueller scandal or all this stuff about an American policy or an American political scandal.

00:35:21.600 Not so much about the stuff going on here.

00:35:24.020 That's changed a little bit.

00:35:25.280 but it's so hard to get Canadians to care about Canadian politics and I look at it as we are a

00:35:34.320 younger nation we're a younger nation who hasn't really gone through any sort of big character

00:35:39.940 building moments especially when it comes to our own government being horribly corrupt

00:35:46.140 and rectifying that and I'm hoping that we'll be able to build our character and become a distinct

00:35:53.420 nation into the future but this is this is a kind of you know very pivotal moment where it's like

00:35:58.760 maybe again maybe we will sort of uh we won't get to mature to be that independent nation and

00:36:04.760 we'll actually instead sort of you know fall into the fold of the american system just by virtue of

00:36:10.640 the crooks were in charge for too long and we weren't able to keep our sovereignty because

00:36:15.420 a bunch of selfish self-serving uh narcissists uh incestuous ottawa bubble screwed us over for

00:36:23.940 too many generations well so the the crooks as i said the crooks and the carnies have been in

00:36:30.000 control of this country for too long and and we got another uh crook and carny coming up shortly

00:36:36.280 from the looks of it but but what what would happen if albert who said today uh or tomorrow

00:36:43.500 we're going to have a referendum we are not going to allow central canada to put the screws to us

00:36:52.440 again and we're going to have a referendum to uh to leave confederation

00:36:58.020 and we want to have either equal representation yeah in an elected representation in the senate

00:37:09.180 and we want equal representation for all provinces or we're going to have a referendum

00:37:16.780 to make sure that we have options that doesn't allow ottawa to put the screws to the four million

00:37:25.980 people who live in alberta maybe that might be a trigger for to get us out of this constitutional

00:37:33.420 paralysis that we've been in for 40 some years now um and um you know so this is i this is where

00:37:42.140 i think the real value lies here is this is a um an opportunity that we haven't had in 40 some years

00:37:51.100 to actually uh look in the mirror and say do we have the gumption do we have the fortitude

00:38:01.580 to now look at what is wrong with Canada and can we now fix it or are we just those helpless

00:38:12.640 snowflakes waiting for the winds to blow us around are we that that little grain of sand

00:38:20.120 waiting for the next current or tide to take us away you know and if we are that helpless

00:38:30.820 if we are that snowflake well then we will be taken right right and it won't be and we won't

00:38:38.560 be taken anywhere good yeah yeah and let's i wanted to ask you about that and you started

00:38:45.040 to answer it so let's dig into that a bit more let's say for just for sake of conversation

00:38:50.240 uh trump does not annex canada and this doesn't end up playing out how can we as people who want

00:38:58.520 to improve this country use this sort of talking point use this flashpoint as leverage or as a sort

00:39:05.460 of jumping off point to kind of push for you know constitutional reform or sort of major seismic

00:39:11.860 changes because it's very clear that a lot of people have an appetite for you know what this

00:39:18.860 sort of represents the it's an opportunity for a reset yeah it's an opportunity but it is you know

00:39:24.800 it's an opportunity for making major changes to the system in Canada

00:39:28.840 to the benefit of the Canadian people.

00:39:30.800 Imagine that, right?

00:39:32.540 Well, our political parties will never do anything like this.

00:39:37.460 Our established political parties will never undertake ideas

00:39:44.660 like a referendum or a constitutional discussion.

00:39:49.380 And we, you know, that is the ultimate third rail in Canadian politics.

00:39:55.220 Unless there is a threat to them, unless there is a danger to their control over the government.

00:40:05.760 Why is it a third rail?

00:40:07.360 Why is it a taboo subject for these Ottawa creatures?

00:40:11.220 Well, we've created this, like our media.

00:40:14.040 I don't know if you were around or how much you were paying attention during the late 70s and early 80s with the originally the patriation and then the Charlottetown and the Meech Lake Accords.

00:40:26.920 Like, it really was put forth as that this is a crisis, that this is, you know, it's an overwhelming mountain that no normal mortal man or woman can climb up this constitutional mountain that we have here.

00:40:48.700 um and and you better just uh stay at home and uh you know we will threaten the breakup of our

00:40:58.180 nation if we even begin to engage in a discussion on constitutional reform i'm just yeah no i'm just

00:41:08.700 gonna bring that up real quick because i i i'm not aware of this piece of history maybe we can

00:41:13.360 you know continue to talk about it because it sounds interesting the meets lake accord in 1987

00:41:17.660 Prime Minister Brian Mulroney attempted to win Quebec's consent

00:41:21.120 to the revised Canadian constitution.

00:41:23.680 The result was the Meech Lake Accord.

00:41:25.360 It was an agreement between the federal and provincial governments

00:41:27.780 to amend the constitution.

00:41:29.960 The accord proposed strengthening provincial powers

00:41:32.440 and declaring Quebec a distinct society.

00:41:35.680 The accord was never put into effect.

00:41:37.400 Political support for it unraveled in 1990.

00:41:40.240 Many Quebecois saw the accord's failure in English Canada

00:41:42.780 as a rejection of Quebec.

00:41:44.540 Support for separatism soared in Quebec

00:41:46.220 and led to the 1995 Quebec referendum.

00:41:49.900 So this idea of changing the Constitution

00:41:52.160 was then completely vilified as like,

00:41:54.480 this might break the country, don't try it ever again.

00:41:57.700 That's right.

00:41:58.200 And, you know, that was a, you know,

00:42:03.860 I think it was worthwhile of Mulroney

00:42:07.840 trying to bring in Quebec into signing onto the Constitution.

00:42:13.700 Many of the elements of the Meech Lake Accord,

00:42:15.880 i think were good to strengthen provincial jurisdictions um the the failing was in this

00:42:23.480 undefined and unknown quebec will be a distinct society and what does what did that actually mean

00:42:31.320 and nobody nobody wanted to uh enter into any discussions or to flesh that idea out

00:42:39.080 um so um so both uh newfoundland ran out the clock and never had a vote on uh on the meech

00:42:48.360 lake accord and uh uh and also um i don't know if you remember this elijah harper a

00:42:56.280 indigenous canadian who was a mla in the manitoba legislature uh ran out the clock

00:43:02.920 uh in the manitoba legislature and um and that was enough to kill those two actions killed the

00:43:12.320 meach lake accord um quebec went and uh a few years later would have their referendum

00:43:19.360 only missed out by like a point or two um from leaving confederation um and and and canadians

00:43:29.940 have ever since been let's not even uh uh let's not even think about it um like this is too

00:43:37.940 dangerous a subject like everything is working just leave everything alone uh uh but things

00:43:45.380 aren't working you know we have seen a continually uh continued degradation of our heritage of our

00:43:53.780 wealth of our standard of living um so things aren't working for canadians uh my my children

00:44:02.580 and my grandchildren are very unlikely to have as prosperous a life or as free a life as me

00:44:11.460 unless we change paths very soon and and those are the first generations of canadians who will

00:44:21.000 not do better than than the ones before them and that's that's an indictment that we really

00:44:29.400 ought to be the ones uh that should be for front and center in our discussions interesting so

00:44:35.520 i don't know my canadian history very well and that's why i love having conversations with you

00:44:40.840 because you can tell me about these very significant pieces of history like the

00:44:44.340 meach lake accord i know you're probably looking at me like greg how the hell do you not know about

00:44:48.040 this uh but uh i mean this explains a lot i i've always had this this impression that um it's

00:44:55.900 almost like canadians are disincentivized to care about their politics like it's like oh it's too

00:45:00.040 complicated don't worry about it and this this flashpoint of the meach lake accord almost seems

00:45:04.460 like a sort of uh trauma that's informed a lot of our politics of don't do anything too bold okay

00:45:11.980 don't do anything hey don't try to mess with that don't try to like you know reinvent the wheel here

00:45:16.660 don't ruffle any feathers right that that's sort of a Canadian identity trope that unfortunately

00:45:22.620 is more true than it's not true I think but it's interesting that there's sort of historical

00:45:28.760 events like this representing that demeanor I guess well and this again speaks to one of the

00:45:35.320 big failings like this attack on our heritage and identity it comes from all quarters our public

00:45:43.260 education system has uh really downplayed and uh and have graduated uh people with total ignorance

00:45:53.340 of our history and our heritage um you know and our political parties and our institutions have

00:46:00.380 also um um you know do the same thing um so you know like but we uh these are not things that we

00:46:11.300 We should, you know, things like the Meech Lake Accord and the Charlottetown Accord and whatnot.

00:46:17.360 These are not things that should prevent us from improving our country, but give us cause to actually overcome those challenges.

00:46:31.100 It is a big challenge, and it ought to be a big challenge to amend our Constitution, but it should not be an impossibility.

00:46:40.240 if you cannot change your constitution then that is not a a document that protects freedom

00:46:48.780 it's one that enslaves people yeah if you guys have any questions for randy hillier make sure

00:46:54.980 that you send a super chat or a comment that'll make sure that i that i get to read it to him

00:47:00.400 um i want to bring up this uh i did a couple polls on twitter randy uh one was okay canada

00:47:08.780 So would you rather become part of America or keep your sovereignty?

00:47:13.260 Some people didn't like that framing.

00:47:14.760 They're like, what's sovereignty?

00:47:15.900 What are you talking about?

00:47:17.620 But I did a second poll to say if Kamala Harris was president, would you want to still become part of America?

00:47:28.140 And obviously the results were quite different.

00:47:30.740 If I want to be part of Trump's America, I don't want to be part of Kamala's America.

00:47:36.460 and i feel like this is significant uh sort of significant you know it's it's a poll on twitter

00:47:44.800 but at the end of the day i feel like the appetite now for us to kind of just instinctively want to

00:47:50.280 join america it's coming a lot from the right wing and it there is this sort of gravitation

00:47:56.740 i think towards trump in general the sort of trust that trump will make canada great again

00:48:02.960 and before your response i just want to throw like another kind of wrench into the conversation

00:48:07.420 you know we have a lot of potential democrat voters in canada and as we know there are

00:48:14.340 city centers like toronto or there's a big population montreal there's a big population

00:48:18.920 a lot of democrat voters and how do we know that the way that they set up the electoral college

00:48:25.340 in canada if we do become part of america how do we know that it won't favor once again these sort

00:48:31.860 of heavily populated city centers to tilt the scales towards uh towards democrats in the future

00:48:39.480 election and then we've become part of the america that gets ruled over by the next democrat uh

00:48:46.580 candidate and then uh you know then it's more gun grabs it's more you know censorship it's like you

00:48:54.420 know out of the frying pan into the into the fire so to speak so i would say you know i think most

00:49:01.080 people objectively will say that the american constitution and the american republic in their

00:49:09.640 electoral system has greater checks and balances it's far from perfect but it's it has greater

00:49:16.440 checks and balances incorporated into it than our canadian system it also has some simplicity to it

00:49:24.360 Because, yeah, you know that you're voting separately for your representative than from the executive.

00:49:34.260 Where in Canada, of course, that gets very muddied and murky because we don't actually vote for the executive.

00:49:42.120 And our head of state is actually an appointment.

00:49:45.760 Where in the states you have a clear delineation.

00:49:48.980 You can vote for a Democrat president or executive.

00:49:54.360 and also vote for a Republican congressman or a Republican senator.

00:50:00.920 So it's much simpler and easier for people to understand,

00:50:06.920 I think, as well as the checks and balances.

00:50:11.040 And obviously, if you frame up that poll question,

00:50:16.300 it would be the same thing if you framed up a poll question,

00:50:20.580 do you want to be um do you want to have justin trudeau as prime minister or you know somebody

00:50:28.740 else like there's going to be um you know um you know then it becomes a personality that your vote

00:50:36.820 that you're surveying not the the system um and you know the american electoral college and this

00:50:45.140 again this is why i put out this letter to trump let's let's talk about this what are the actual

00:50:50.260 proposals that you're you're considering or you want to consider um you know uh each um

00:50:58.500 if each province was to become an american state then the electoral college votes would be

00:51:05.480 determined by the population of the the province or the new state um so obviously ontario would

00:51:14.060 have far more electoral college votes than pei um um but um you know that's that's a built-in

00:51:23.340 counterweight but all the votes go one way or the other um with the overall plurality um for the

00:51:33.780 vote for the executive uh not this you know how many seats did you get and uh and you know uh

00:51:42.500 having um you know as we see here the executive um uh branch of our government the the cabinet

00:51:50.780 can be elected with um what would be i think trudeau got 36 percent of the vote um uh in the

00:51:58.940 last um we actually got fewer votes than the progressive conservative party last the last

00:52:05.800 election. So that becomes that murkiness and that muddiness between seats and actual votes.

00:52:14.940 So, but again, you know, I think this also offers the opportunity, you know, in many of our

00:52:22.260 provincial jurisdictions, there's been discussion that there should be some changes and divisions

00:52:29.920 within our own provincial boundaries. You know, for a significant period of time, there has been

00:52:35.660 a groundswell of support for northern ontario to be separated from southern ontario there's even

00:52:42.700 been a lot of discussion about separating um toronto and the dtha from the rest of ontario

00:52:50.620 there's a lot of discussion in bc about separating uh creating a separate provincial jurisdiction

00:52:57.340 for the lower mainland from the rest of bc so those are all things that may have um

00:53:06.220 may be very justified um and and be very credible um uh options to consider um

00:53:16.220 you know like uh you know we're sort of in this canadians have this sort of fixed

00:53:21.580 thing that uh government and nations and boundaries and whatnot are inviolable and can never alter

00:53:29.420 and well again that's just not true we just changed the boundaries of the northwest

00:53:34.620 territories a few years ago we created a brand new territory um it wasn't that hard it wasn't

00:53:41.020 that difficult um in 1949 we admitted a an entire a former colony and former independent nation

00:53:50.220 called newfoundland labrador uh into our confederation now uh you know candace history

00:53:57.540 is one of uh of like the americans of of changing boundaries but somehow now uh we we think that

00:54:07.400 this is just impossible to do

00:54:10.460 yeah yeah yeah no absolutely there's a certain sense of uh permanence that the thing things are

00:54:17.880 not allowed to change yeah things have always been this way um emma the cat and friends thank

00:54:24.960 you so much for the five dollars i'm gonna ask your question in a second because it kind of

00:54:29.420 relates on where i want to take the conversation but i want to i wanted to before we get into emma

00:54:33.960 the cat and friends question um i want to share another one of my concerns with with this idea of

00:54:41.340 you know becoming part of america which is it it just seems ever since i've paid attention close

00:54:47.820 to canadian politics it seems that you know if if canadian interests aren't of the canadian people

00:54:54.580 i mean of the actual canadian people if they're not being super superseded by the interests of

00:55:00.000 like trudeau with like you know immigrants and refugees coming first like their interests are

00:55:04.660 more important if it's not superseded by you know the interest of lobbyists or or foreign special

00:55:11.400 interests or there's some foreign interference going on or maybe it's the milk cartels the

00:55:15.600 corporatists coming before canadian interests well it gets superseded by the interests of quebec

00:55:21.480 right and and it just it feels like there would be another added layer of uh our interests being

00:55:28.640 superseded once again of course by america so like add on top of all that it's like well

00:55:32.660 the the interests of america and washington dc is going to come before all of that other stuff

00:55:38.880 it just feels like it would be another layer um that would separate the canadian people from

00:55:44.520 actually getting what they want um from the bureaucrats lording over them well i would say

00:55:50.600 the first number of items that you put there greg are all indeed factual um and correct the

00:55:57.800 the interests of the canadian people are superseded by the interests of the lobbyists the

00:56:03.220 interests of um um the canadian people are superseded by the corporate interests they're

00:56:10.980 also superseded by um special interests and by foreign interests like that is all true uh and it's

00:56:18.180 it ought to be obvious uh to everyone um you know just think of you know i often use this um myself

00:56:26.740 and many others have faced significant criminal charges because we were in ottawa or like marco

00:56:34.660 in in alberta moved a pylon and charged got charged with mischief uh and it's been sentenced

00:56:40.740 to four months in jail um you know galen weston the owner of loblaws and wallace mccain the owner

00:56:47.620 of mccain foods were convicted of engaging in a uh decade-long uh price-fixing cartel on bread which

00:56:57.940 stole approximately 10 billion dollars from canadians um the crown attorneys have never

00:57:04.500 charged wallace mccain or gaylon weston for that crime the toronto dominion bank was recently

00:57:11.700 convicted in the united states and fined for facilitating for doing money laundering for the

00:57:19.380 drug cartels in the movement of fentanyl and they were fined in the united states but but

00:57:26.980 the toronto dominion bank is headquartered here in ontario in toronto the crime attorneys have never

00:57:32.340 attempted to charge the directors and and the officers of the TD Bank the you

00:57:44.100 know and we could go to see SNC-Lavalin was got a deferred prosecution the

00:57:52.740 Crown Attorneys you know that was the Wilson-Raybould affair in SNC-Lavalin

00:57:58.440 engaged in significant criminal activity, but SNC-Lavalin and none of their directors or

00:58:06.240 officers were charged. But people like myself and Leach and Marco and Barber and many others

00:58:14.560 were the targets. So, you know, that's just one other further proof point that the interests of

00:58:23.560 Canadians are super super have been superseded by a great many interests for a great long time

00:58:30.200 now do we want to continue in that system or do we want to see do we want to have a seat at the

00:58:38.980 table and do we want to negotiate a better outcome for Canadians and have the interests of Canadians

00:58:45.640 talked about negotiated at the table or again are we going to be just helpless victims so you're

00:58:53.260 saying you're suggesting ironically by becoming part of america we would actually have get our

00:58:58.580 power back by having better systems in place to actually get justice and to actually kind of uh

00:59:04.340 get more of a sort of democratic rule where the people get more of a say or or reinvigorate our

00:59:11.940 own country and and and alter the failings within our own governance right right and in that previous

00:59:19.760 example where you where do you think more of the failure is is this a is this a failure of the

00:59:25.520 justice system and the judiciary or is this more of a of a failure of the you know the system of

00:59:32.060 governance or is it kind of a little bit of both this is the protection racket that our established

00:59:38.200 political parties run in this country right okay like that's why the mccains and and galen weston

00:59:46.340 didn't get charged it's why the td bank didn't get charged uh in snc level and this these are

00:59:52.880 these are the these are the people who who pay the lobbyists to go and act as their intermediaries

01:00:00.380 with the um with with the political parties these are the guys who fund uh this is the

01:00:08.180 the chateau clique this is the family compact of 200 years ago in play today in canada like

01:00:17.440 that's our system yeah now surely we could find examples of this happening in the united states

01:00:24.840 in some capacity obviously in this capacity would be that they probably got away with it

01:00:30.240 or they're you know like i guess i guess you could make the argument in america if there's

01:00:35.060 enough evidence the crooks will get found out because the justice system is maybe a little bit

01:00:39.540 more tight and more uh more um what's the word uh effective at actually discerning uh justice

01:00:47.600 or wrongdoing if that makes sense well i think you know clearly they have very similar faults

01:00:55.540 with lawfare going on in the united states yeah um as we have been here and and this at the beginning

01:01:04.040 of the show i said you know is trump going to smash the deep state the administrative state

01:01:12.280 is trump going to actually break the protection racket between the corporate interests and the

01:01:19.880 lobbyists um in in their system so you know i i hope he does obviously um uh but at least their

01:01:29.640 system gives the option to find a trump our system does not our primaries are closed the parties

01:01:40.360 control our our primaries so in canada we can never have a trump look at the current liberal

01:01:48.520 leadership race right um and i'm not sure if you're aware of this in in the audience greg

01:01:56.200 there's a 350 000 down payment just a down payment and you have to find that within two weeks

01:02:06.200 plus most canadians will not be aware you cannot fund your own leadership campaign in canada

01:02:14.840 out of that 350 000 that you have to give the liberal party to be a potential to be a candidate

01:02:22.760 no more than twenty five thousand dollars can come from your own pocket um and so uh and then

01:02:30.040 there's another big consideration in our system um the maximum contributions to the leadership

01:02:38.600 race is seventeen hundred dollars per person and legally uh corporations and unions are not

01:02:46.120 permitted to contribute to that make contributions or donations so where is greg wycliffe going to

01:02:56.200 find uh those hundreds and hundreds of people who each have a an extra seventeen hundred dollars

01:03:07.080 in their pocket to give to you for the down payment to run for the leadership of the

01:03:13.160 liberal party holy smokes so it's you need to create that you said 350k that's just a down

01:03:22.260 payment and and it's only in increments of 1700 each yeah except for your own 25 000 25k that's

01:03:31.540 that's that's wild yeah wow so do you know anybody who has that many friends with

01:03:38.860 $1,700 in their pocket

01:03:41.300 who can give it to you in the next 10 days.

01:03:44.740 Yes.

01:03:45.100 And how many Canadians do you think

01:03:47.040 fit that category?

01:03:50.100 Yeah, no, that

01:03:50.900 is a high bar. That is a

01:03:53.120 high, high, high, high bar to jump

01:03:55.260 over just to be part of the leadership

01:03:57.080 race.

01:03:58.340 So we can't...

01:04:00.720 Even if we had a Donald Trump

01:04:03.280 who said, I've got the

01:04:04.900 $350,000.

01:04:06.040 um well sorry donald um uh we're we you can only give 25 000 we don't want you to be able to

01:04:14.680 uh unduly influence your campaign so we're we've got a limit of 25 000 uh yeah um and and therefore

01:04:23.320 you get into the this network where the lobbyists are the only that's the network that can generate

01:04:31.720 That number of people, that number of lawyers and legal partners and engineers at SNC-Lavalin or partners at McCarthy-Tetro or Rose-Fulton-Northbry, it's only the lobbyists who can choose who will be a potential leader.

01:04:57.340 uh for and that's to say that's a similar system for the conservative party as well

01:05:03.200 now um this idea of of uh i i was i was thinking there earlier when we were talking about you

01:05:12.060 better get back to that question from emma uh we will we will we will get it in a second guys

01:05:19.320 if you have any questions for uh randy hillier then please send in a super chat uh we will get

01:05:25.880 to emma's question in just a second but uh you know i don't know if this is such a good idea

01:05:31.580 randy because you know you're you're you're kind of considered a dissident you're kind of considered

01:05:35.860 a troublemaker and i mean would you rather have the csis bothering you or cia i think i think i'd

01:05:43.860 rather kind of have something more amateur like csis than than the cia kind of giving you a tough

01:05:50.000 time for speaking out you know what i'm saying maybe we should rethink this the day i fear my

01:05:56.540 government um um i am no longer living in a democracy greg um yeah i will never live in fear

01:06:05.920 of my government um you know that's just uh um that's maybe what they want you to do

01:06:14.360 But that's not in the cards.

01:06:17.680 And I would say, you know, if somebody's, you know, it's just, I would, you know, listen, are we being watched?

01:06:28.080 Are we being listened to?

01:06:29.300 Of course.

01:06:30.000 And whether it's from CSIS or the community, the CSE, the communication security establishment, the CIA, you know, whatever.

01:06:43.800 um um you know i'm i'm not going to uh there's a lot of things that go that are being done that i

01:06:51.280 don't agree with uh many things that i'd like to see uh fixed um hopefully some of the things in

01:06:59.340 the in the states like the patriot act and their fisa warrants will get um smashed by by trump as

01:07:06.540 well um you know um so um but we're not even having those discussions here greg um you know

01:07:17.400 and and at least they're having that conversation and and they may find a way to um to fix the

01:07:26.480 significant problems in their uh administrative state uh and and i hope this uh this these musings

01:07:34.440 these proposals, these ideas, give Canadians the strength

01:07:39.660 and motivation to start looking at ourselves

01:07:44.400 and not looking at the United States as the threat

01:07:49.740 and the danger to us.

01:07:52.760 We've created our own crisis right here at home for everyone,

01:07:58.400 all of our youth.

01:07:59.300 and are we going to sit back and just let that

01:08:02.580 let our youth, our children

01:08:06.260 and our grandchildren suffer because of our

01:08:10.220 helplessness

01:08:11.820 No, we got to do something about it

01:08:15.980 and I think you're right, in this situation the silver

01:08:20.240 lining is certainly that it's got a lot of Canadians thinking about

01:08:23.640 as I said earlier, how our systems could be much

01:08:28.220 much better in terms of actually effectively serving the people at the end

01:08:33.120 of the day.

01:08:33.800 Now I'm going to get to Emma's question and we're going to kind of talk a

01:08:37.980 little bit more about the cynicism of maybe the potential downsides or sort

01:08:41.680 of the,

01:08:41.980 you know,

01:08:42.540 globalist conspiracy theory of,

01:08:45.180 you know,

01:08:45.700 uniting all of North America.

01:08:47.420 Do you,

01:08:47.660 do you have much time Randy or.

01:08:50.200 Yep.

01:08:50.500 We've got time to go.

01:08:51.560 Yeah.

01:08:52.000 So Emma,

01:08:52.540 the cat and friends,

01:08:53.360 thank you for the $5 donation.

01:08:54.980 Again,

01:08:55.340 if you guys have any questions for Randy Hillier,

01:08:57.140 you can send in a super chat. She says, how do you think our becoming or not becoming part of

01:09:03.840 the U.S. relates to changes from potential future technology, which might pop up in the next 10

01:09:10.880 years? Well, I'm not sure if I fully understand that. Read that one again. How does future

01:09:22.400 technology yeah so how do you think us becoming or not becoming part of the u.s relates to changes

01:09:28.940 from potential future technology which might pop up in the next 10 years i i don't know i don't want

01:09:34.940 to like speak for the the super chatter emma but but i'm thinking she might be alluding to

01:09:40.380 what if there's digital id what if there's some sort of like imposing uh law that passes and now

01:09:47.800 It affects all of North America.

01:09:49.760 And one simple example actually would be Trump or the U.S. government is about to ban TikTok,

01:09:56.960 which is a quite popular, you know, application, social media application in North America.

01:10:02.600 And like, you know, you can say it's a Chinese spy app.

01:10:05.280 You can say it's a compromise to security.

01:10:07.860 Some people are saying it's about competition in reality,

01:10:10.860 that it actually it's going to help Amazon and Meta slash Facebook better compete in America.

01:10:17.540 That's why they want to oust TikTok.

01:10:19.740 But you can certainly make the argument that this is, you know, taking away freedom of speech or freedom of sort of information flows when the federal government is imposing something like this.

01:10:30.580 Well, listen, I think we better be fearful of technology because I don't think we have a very good handle on it.

01:10:38.300 And it's moving at that speed that we can't comprehend.

01:10:43.380 But I would say to Emma, are you aware that our Canadian federal government has a policy statement out and a whole directorate engaged in what they call biodigital convergence?

01:11:00.640 Um, our own government is seeing, uh, the need to converge us as, uh, biological human beings, uh, with digital, um, um, um, and artificial intelligence, um, you know, that is underway.

01:11:21.540 That's, that's, you know, our governments are engaged in a lot of things that, uh, the, um, people are talking about some of the things that we can see.

01:11:30.440 the digital central bank currencies um digital ids our artificial intelligence but our own

01:11:39.240 countries our own governments are uh looking well beyond that and looking at the day when um

01:11:47.160 well you and i greg wouldn't actually be having this conversation but the board would be having

01:11:53.640 the conversation on our behalf um you know like uh so are we going to have agency are we going to

01:12:02.760 have influence in what comes with this rampant and insignificant uh technological changes that

01:12:13.000 are happening um i think we better and i don't think our system at the present uh in canada

01:12:21.000 gives us um or it diminishes our agency and diminishes our influence um so um we better

01:12:30.400 start fixing our systems right now or um it could be the borg uh and not emma asking the question

01:12:37.960 yeah yeah no that that that's that's well said uh just got a great super chat from chris s

01:12:45.440 i think that's the if that's the chris that i'm thinking of hey chris thanks for the super chat

01:12:50.660 He says, when is Randy going to Mar-a-Lago?

01:12:57.680 Next week or, you know, by Friday?

01:13:01.400 Do you got a flight yet or what?

01:13:04.440 Listen, I haven't been to Florida since I left.

01:13:07.760 The last time I left Florida was January 2020.

01:13:11.300 And I have not left the country since.

01:13:13.660 You know, we can probably all add two and two together to see that there was some events after January of 2020 that altered our comings and goings.

01:13:27.660 Listen, I think it's important that all Canadians speak out, not just Randy Hillier.

01:13:35.980 And these are important discussions.

01:13:40.140 I think, you know, let me just add this, like every one of our political parties, Greg, as soon as this thought of annexation was floated, every one of them said, how dare you?

01:13:58.640 no no no you're yeah we stand with the flag um uh and we will not even consider any discussions

01:14:09.760 we're not even going to ask you for any details um you know we we do live in a representative

01:14:15.840 democracy i don't recall any of the party leaders or the 338 members in the house of commons or the

01:14:29.840 hundreds of mpps and mlas across the country putting out any surveys or any questions

01:14:37.680 uh asking their constituents what their views are um on this potential annexation now

01:14:45.900 um you know um you know now i know you put out a poll on twitter but you're not in elected office

01:14:53.900 um you know people who are in elected office are the obligation is to represent the interests of

01:15:03.080 their communities um and their constituents and of course in order to do that you actually have

01:15:10.380 to speak with them and ask their their ask for their feedback um so you know i think that's a

01:15:19.140 um they've they've all acted in the exact same way with this as they did with covid

01:15:28.180 as they did with the ukraine war um you know go on and on like this is um again as i said you know

01:15:36.580 think of these guys as a crime family in the protection racket that they're running and it's

01:15:43.700 and it's not for the benefit of greg or chris s or or randy hillier um who they're running the

01:15:53.100 rackets for. Um, and, uh, you know, and, and they want you to think that, um, yeah, not only is

01:16:03.120 your voice unimportant, um, but it's, uh, it doesn't have any credibility anyway. And there's

01:16:11.280 no need to, you know, you just be that helpless little snowflake rig and leave, leave the big

01:16:18.900 subjects uh to um to the big boys um but uh to answer chris if if trump gives me a call

01:16:27.660 uh and and pays for the flight i'll uh um i'll take a flight down to mar-a-lago uh if not i'll

01:16:36.400 if he offers me an invite i'll see if jane and i can hop in the the dodge pickup truck and take

01:16:43.620 a drive down there road trip let's go let's go road trip to mar-a-largo uh you know you you brought

01:16:51.460 up a great point at the end there of how all of these politicians are acting the exact same way

01:16:56.120 towards this uh this trump annexation threat and i i think i made a video about it um about the

01:17:05.300 annexation my main commentary was this just proves how what a failure uh canadian leaders are in our

01:17:11.720 politics the fact that there's such an appetite for it the fact that uh it's so appealing to so

01:17:17.220 many people the fact that it would be so easy for trump to just kind of show up and completely

01:17:22.000 what's that guy's name again pierre yeah i don't really care what he had to say it was complete he

01:17:25.860 completely humiliated the leadership of our major parties in an afternoon and the appetite that

01:17:33.380 people have for it i think proves that hey you guys are not leading this country very well and

01:17:38.200 And I think that's another reason why they were so quick to be like, no, Canadian, Canadian sovereignty.

01:17:43.320 And we're standing up for Canada, of course.

01:17:45.660 And it's like, we can't let them know that we're these corrupt, crooked people.

01:17:50.940 But I want to get into that real quickly with if this plays out, if we do get annexed by America, what is going to...

01:17:58.940 I wouldn't use that word.

01:18:00.700 You know, if we agree to some sort of merger, like this idea that this will be done by force or that there'll be, you know, that's just not in the cards in my world, Greg.

01:18:23.120 This is a country and we will make the decisions, right?

01:18:28.280 like that's like who's we though because it's the people who live here so so but my question was you

01:18:36.360 know if that i was leading to if there's sir if there's a merger who would be making the decisions

01:18:42.700 would it be the ottawa bubble or would they will they all be fired you almost a lot of these people

01:18:48.320 who are you know open to this idea of of us converging with america has this idea that

01:18:54.400 Everyone in the Ottawa bubble might be fired or are we going to have like a bunch of, you know, different Yankees showing up to make all these decisions?

01:19:02.140 Like who are who's going to be the intermediary?

01:19:04.420 Who's going to be the people representing the interests of Canada when we're negotiating all of this?

01:19:09.780 Would it be the Ottawa bubble making those decisions?

01:19:13.480 Well, hopefully the Ottawa bubble will eventually be fired and that the incestuous bubble.

01:19:20.340 That's that's hopefully though.

01:19:21.980 but you know again this is why i said we need to have information we need to have details and in

01:19:27.960 my letter to trump i said you know if you're serious about this if you're really um then we

01:19:33.640 have to be looking at this as uh provincial referendums as the mechanism to create uh this

01:19:42.240 and and also the establishment in my view i suggested a bilateral commission made of equal

01:19:50.140 numbers of uh intelligent capable canadians and americans to um to sit down and go through the

01:19:59.660 uh myriad of complexities uh of of integration of various laws and uh time frames and um to

01:20:11.340 make those sorts of um transitions um so but again you need to have the details before

01:20:20.060 before you can accept or reject an idea uh what are the details to it so um what's the offer

01:20:29.260 what's the deal let's make it yeah trump what's the deal and i think i think daniel smith and

01:20:35.740 And Alberta are running a grave risk right now with the way the Central Canada and the Maritimes are prepared to sacrifice the West once again.

01:20:51.480 And I think Daniel Smith ought to declare very soon a referendum.

01:20:58.800 And I would say the same thing with Saskatchewan, like that.

01:21:03.500 Let's have a referendum.

01:21:04.860 And ask the people of Saskatchewan and Alberta, is it worthwhile to be driven into poverty to ensure that central Canada benefits in this potential trade war with Donald Trump?

01:21:23.880 So I'm not actually clear on what's happening here.

01:21:28.540 So Danielle Smith and some of the Western provinces are, what,

01:21:33.440 offering themselves up already?

01:21:35.720 No, no, no.

01:21:38.120 Danielle Smith came back from Mar-a-Lago, and she said,

01:21:42.040 get ready, boys and girls.

01:21:44.160 Trump is going to put the tariffs in place on January 20th.

01:21:50.280 And, you know, tariffs are not some big, scary, scary thing, you know, for most of Canada's history, both the United States and Canada have had significant tariff walls, you know, that changed with the first NAFTA and then the USMCA.

01:22:12.540 uh but there's been a lot of our history uh um has been utilized both the united states and

01:22:22.020 canada have had tariffs so it's not the end of the world um and especially when we don't even know

01:22:28.820 the tariffs on what like trump has just declared a 25 percent tariff um on that he's going to impose

01:22:37.200 a 25 percent tariff well most canadians won't realize that there's already a 25 percent tariff

01:22:43.040 wall on on uh boats built in each country um um any uh if you buy an american boat it's going to

01:22:51.320 have a tariff on it uh uh if an american buys a canadian boat it's going to have a 25 percent

01:22:56.880 tariff on it um um you know our uh the dairy cartel uh has got up to 300 percent tariffs on

01:23:05.700 um on dairy um so you know like let's understand understand what these chairs could be but but

01:23:17.440 anyway going back daniel smith the premier of alberta has said these things are coming and

01:23:23.540 coming on january 20th and no she she has said that if we accept the um the central canadian

01:23:34.320 proposal that we retaliate by shutting off our energy or placing countervailing tariffs on our

01:23:43.540 energy, that this will cause a constitutional and national unity crisis in our country.

01:23:55.740 And it should cause a national unity crisis when central Canada wants to forsake and sacrifice other provinces so that Ontario and Quebec manufacturers don't get hit too hard.

01:24:18.500 so but again you know if i was the premier of alberta right now i would say listen central

01:24:26.980 canada you you put the screws to us with the national energy program back in the 80s we paid

01:24:33.580 a dear dear cost for a long time as a result of that policy we're not going to allow you to put

01:24:41.420 the screws to us again there will be no countervailing care so there will be no turning

01:24:47.280 off the taps of Alberta oil and gas and if you want to go down that route I'm going to go to

01:24:54.340 the people and ask them for a referendum whether or not we should leave confederation because

01:24:59.620 bear in mind Greg and for the audience it was central Canada that prevented Alberta from

01:25:07.360 building the pipelines to to BC to export their oil and gas to the world other foreign markets we

01:25:16.480 Central Canada also put the kibosh on the proposal to send oil and gas directly to eastern Canada with the Energy East pipeline.

01:25:32.740 You know, it was all the central Canadian environmentalists that have hamstrung Alberta and Saskatchewan's ability to export their natural resources.

01:25:44.260 i i thought it was uh a couple of the bills that came from ottawa like bill c69 and that sort of

01:25:51.260 thing that well that's why central canada like that's where the the motivations were like um

01:25:59.540 it wasn't so you mean central canada as in ottawa and those yeah bills okay yeah yeah yeah just

01:26:06.500 Yeah, they're federal bills, and Alberta is, you know, well, even we have a dysfunctional party system as well, but, you know, Alberta just doesn't have the ability to counter, they don't have the population, they don't have the Senate seats,

01:26:31.400 They don't have, and they, so, you know, we here in Central Canada has limited Alberta's ability to export their resources.

01:26:46.520 They only have one marketplace that's to the states.

01:26:51.300 And that oil and gas is heavily discounted for a number of reasons.

01:26:57.680 But one of the reasons why it's heavily discounted is because they can't they can't offer it to anybody else.

01:27:03.740 It's landlocked because there's no pipelines.

01:27:05.760 Yeah.

01:27:07.300 There's a great documentary on this called Over a Barrel.

01:27:10.680 It's about like 30 or 40 minutes long, but it documents.

01:27:15.140 It's a very interesting story.

01:27:16.840 essentially uh you know oil tycoon billionaires um from america helped fund a whole bunch of

01:27:24.920 activism organizations in canada to make canadians hate their own oil and gas industry it's very

01:27:30.880 interesting um well we in a lot of canadians didn't need much help to do that yeah but i mean

01:27:38.360 when you got a whole bunch of uh multi-million dollar ad agencies making messaging curating it

01:27:44.520 helping it along it certainly helps but um i got another super chat from chris s with 14

01:27:51.280 thank you sir he says miss ontario miss you guys thanks for all the great work if randy did go to

01:27:59.400 negotiations with trump who'd be his dream team to bring with him keep up the great work

01:28:04.740 i have uh i have no idea i haven't thought that uh listen there's there's there is a

01:28:14.180 great many really competent and capable canadians um um and um you know um

01:28:25.460 you know we've we've done these negotiations before um um very significant substantial

01:28:32.340 negotiations it's not um um it's not insurmountable um uh but i um i i would hope that there would be

01:28:44.180 a desire um um on both sides of the border that um like i said this bilateral commission be struck

01:28:53.780 just to uh even uh flesh out some of these ideas um you know and is there advantages um

01:29:05.060 obviously there you know there's advantages and disadvantages but you know how how could these

01:29:10.260 things potentially be mitigated and come out with a win-win situation on um yeah because you know

01:29:18.660 again speaking back going back to this geopolitical mess that we have in this world this uh this

01:29:24.580 changing uh unipolar to a multi-polar uh world you know i think the americans do see that as a

01:29:34.180 significant um long-term um potential negative consequence for them i think that's one of the

01:29:44.180 reasons why they've um um asserting um the annexation of greenland um um and also asserting

01:29:54.900 that they uh um would annex panama canal you know listen i'm not in favor um trump has not ruled out

01:30:03.940 military action on that uh i i'm certainly not in favor of any country um um seizing

01:30:14.180 other territories by military means um um but um you know that um i think there is a significant

01:30:26.500 and there's many people in the united states who see that this is a shifting and potentially

01:30:33.140 dangerous change in world politics and that they want to be ahead of the curve a little bit on

01:30:40.020 on that and um and and the pressures on canada may in time um become very significant uh depending

01:30:50.820 on how this rolls out and once again we should be um we should be at the table and and saying

01:30:58.900 I mean, these are the things that we need to have.

01:31:05.240 Yeah, yeah.

01:31:06.840 And to speak on Randy's behalf,

01:31:09.500 I think his dream team would include probably Drake, Justin Bieber.

01:31:15.760 You'd have the ghost of Doug, sorry, Rob Ford.

01:31:19.580 And who else would come with you?

01:31:21.740 Theo Fleury, I think, would come with you for negotiations.

01:31:25.180 I would have to sit back and actually ponder and think about all those names and give Justin and Drake due consideration.

01:31:40.880 All right.

01:31:41.260 We got a couple more Super Chats, and I want to ask a couple more questions.

01:31:44.780 Have you got the time, Randy?

01:31:45.800 Is that all right?

01:31:46.560 Yep.

01:31:47.680 So speaking of meeting Trump, Darren Turner sends in $14.

01:31:52.580 Thank you very much, Darren.

01:31:53.600 And he says, hey, Randy, you should invite Trump to Scuttlebutt Lodge.

01:31:58.380 Can't wait to visit sometime myself.

01:32:01.700 You know what?

01:32:02.840 I might do that in my next letter to him.

01:32:05.020 Yeah.

01:32:05.640 I think he'd like it.

01:32:06.600 I think he'd like to feed the chickens and kind of check out Perth, Ontario.

01:32:12.540 It would be great.

01:32:14.560 Get him in a plaid shirt.

01:32:16.580 That would be a great photo, wouldn't it, man?

01:32:18.500 doing some we don't have a golf course at uh at scuttlebutt lodge but we do have a shooting range

01:32:25.180 so maybe we could get them uh perfect doing some of that perfect perfect perfect um so i'm gonna

01:32:32.540 go to a voltman's uh super chat in a second too but um i want to bring up one last sort of i guess

01:32:39.300 more of a pessimistic uh look at at this sort of opportunity which is i see i see a lot of the

01:32:45.900 people talking about um this transaction of becoming part of america and it really feels

01:32:54.200 like they're they're treating it like it's a magic button that's going to solve all of our problems

01:32:59.580 you know and i really feel like the only guarantee of pushing this button is that we will be facing

01:33:05.320 different problems or maybe just some of the same but but i feel like they're you know to say that

01:33:11.380 all the problems will go away is very misguided because a lot of people like they like trump

01:33:16.800 and because he's in charge they feel that this will be a good transaction and it's like i feel

01:33:21.700 like they might feel a little bit different when trump takes over he decides to level the

01:33:27.380 parliament buildings and put a massive gold statue of trump uh you know right in the middle

01:33:32.340 of uh of the square there you know what i mean but um i guess people are very optimistic

01:33:42.780 and when it comes down to it i just i just worry of you know who is going to actually make the

01:33:50.600 decisions and i guess a good a good summary question for you is if you're cynical could

01:33:57.980 you see a scenario based on all the madness that's gone on in our in our lifetimes over the

01:34:03.900 simply over the past five years could you see a scenario where we get completely screwed over

01:34:10.080 like like it happens it plays out and we get the short end of the stick somehow there's like

01:34:16.420 however it's negotiated that we get completely screwed over and now we're part of this north

01:34:22.600 american union and we have you know now we're just and and sorry to kind of drive home this point

01:34:30.540 uh be or this sort of question um i think it was bruce party bringing it up yesterday and he was

01:34:37.220 like let's not get it twisted you know trump sees us as useful for natural resources and territory

01:34:42.440 and then probably to a third extension as consumers you know um like uh like the canadian

01:34:48.940 people and what they want like are we going to be naive here and think that like this is really

01:34:53.900 what trump's trump's main intention is to save the canadian people so listen the problems are

01:35:01.600 not going to go away um yeah you know like there is no magic bullet in in public policy there is

01:35:10.860 no magic um in in in governance um what you want to do is to have a system where you can create

01:35:20.360 a remedy um for whatever the failing is yeah many people in politics that i've seen over the years

01:35:28.180 greg uh think that we can create perfection or utopia through legislation um and and obviously

01:35:37.240 if that was true we would have reached it long ago with the amount of legislation that we've created

01:35:42.540 but what we generally do what I view is and what we don't do but I think is what should be the

01:35:53.660 purpose of public policy and legislation is to provide a remedy for when failings become apparent

01:36:02.520 So, you know, there was a good one I heard the other day that with Gavin Newsom in the governor of California, in his term, he has spent $24 billion to address the homeless problem in California.

01:36:21.300 And the homeless rate has increased by 40% during that period of time.

01:36:27.900 So his policies and the public expenditure of money has actually escalated the problem and not solved the problem.

01:36:39.020 And so the point I'm trying to make here is that there is a huge risk, a huge danger if we run away from this.

01:36:50.020 If we want to put our heads in the proverbial ostrich with the head in the sand, yeah, we've got a real problem.

01:36:59.960 If we want to shy away from this challenge, we've got a real problem, potentially.

01:37:07.020 But more likely, if we want to face the challenge, we can actually find remedies for what ails this country.

01:37:18.400 And whether that remedy is homegrown here with improvements in our constitution, improvements in our representation, or whether it's changes of our borders and elements potentially joining the United States or everyone.

01:37:44.500 um so but i'm not i'm not prepared to say uh you know what is the best path

01:37:53.140 until we know the details but i know if we don't ask for the details and examine the path

01:38:02.980 we run a great danger of just staying on the path that we're on today yeah yeah well said i i i think

01:38:12.280 you're right the regardless of what happens this sort of whole suggestion this whole kind of stunt

01:38:18.280 by trump is certainly a catalyst for change a catalyst for people to think about change

01:38:24.420 in canada uh we got a super chat from voltman pluto thank you so much for the ten dollars sir

01:38:30.960 he says canadians and pluto he must be that this question must be from way out there

01:38:36.080 oh yeah this is this is uh sorry voltman plutoni oh yeah yeah my mistake my mistake i didn't read

01:38:43.640 the whole thing uh he says canadians have been indoctrinated to condemn any form of violence

01:38:49.980 not knowing that the greatest violence is teaching mindless passive pacifism which allows evil to

01:38:58.720 rule so not not a question but but but uh but a profound thought nonetheless i wouldn't i wouldn't

01:39:05.740 disagree with that um you know like um you know that is why um you know our our freedoms

01:39:13.880 are so significant um and protected to such a degree to give us agency to counter evil

01:39:23.600 to give us a voice against wrongdoing dishonesty and evil that's why we have freedom of a speech

01:39:30.920 and freedom of expression it's not so i can choose to go to kfc rather than mcdonald's today

01:39:40.120 you know it is that we can challenge wrongdoing with impunity that we cannot be harmed or hurt

01:39:50.440 for challenging against evil and you know i think a lot of canadians have forgotten

01:39:56.840 uh the purpose and have been i would use his words indoctrinated into believing that

01:40:04.660 uh consensus and obedience and compliance are are greater virtues than uh challenging evil

01:40:15.240 yeah yeah i um yeah that's well said i i think the super chatter has makes a really great point

01:40:25.400 In that there is a sort of, you know, weak character, conflict avoidance that unfortunately a lot of Canadians have adopted.

01:40:36.920 And I'm hoping that we're seeing the end of that.

01:40:40.220 I'm hoping that we're, you know, with everything that's gone on over the past five years. 0.91

01:40:43.760 I think that there's this sort of, you know, there is this sort of domesticated metrosexual male that you'll see in Toronto who are pussy whipped by their wives. 0.78

01:40:53.500 Excuse me. 0.95

01:40:54.480 Pardon me.

01:40:55.400 or they're or they're or by their boyfriend or by their boyfriends of course i'm voting for

01:41:00.200 trudeau or jagmeet singh because i'm gonna do the right thing but uh i think on the flip side there

01:41:04.800 are people there are men who are kind of finding their balls and being like what is happening to

01:41:09.920 this country oh my gosh uh and they're kind of returning to form and getting in touch with their

01:41:16.180 masculine and uh starting to not care about being you know prioritizing being nice above everything

01:41:23.740 else including uh your own self-preservation right but um listen we've attacked masculinity

01:41:31.100 you know you've heard the term and this has been a part of our public policy in public education

01:41:36.940 system for a long time is the this concept of that masculinity is toxic um you know and and

01:41:44.380 And that came into play a long time ago

01:41:47.720 and has been very effective in neutering the male population in Canada. 0.95

01:41:58.140 And this is indeed an affliction throughout the Western liberal democracies,

01:42:03.420 not just Canada.

01:42:05.680 But, you know, I do think through COVID,

01:42:10.040 we began to see a greater number of young men finally starting to see that, you know,

01:42:22.100 if you want to be a pansy in life, you're going to be a doormat or a wallflower.

01:42:29.960 And it's you better go up and be a man, protect your family,

01:42:35.920 have the spine and the backbone to speak and speak truthfully.

01:42:44.920 So I think, you know, COVID, as bad and as negative as COVID was,

01:42:50.800 it has also provided a silver lining in Canada, in my view,

01:42:57.340 and has awakened a great many Canadians to understand the depth of corruption

01:43:04.120 within our political system yeah very well said very well said i think a lot of seeds were planted

01:43:11.120 during the covet era for exactly what you said which is seeing the actual corruption in this

01:43:16.500 country and that is why i have started safe free speech.ca and we're making a documentary

01:43:22.380 documenting people like yourself randy who have been wrongfully arrested with these trumped up

01:43:28.340 political charges for standing up against vaccine mandates and telling the story of how there is a

01:43:34.580 system of censorship there is a system of smearing reputations of people like yourself simply for

01:43:41.140 your political opinion it's not just about throwing people in jail because we don't like your opinion

01:43:45.480 but there's a whole system of silencing people and if you do want to support that then you can

01:43:50.620 go to give send go.com slash save free speech.

01:43:54.660 Someone donated $7 the other day.

01:43:57.420 Bernie Sanders donated saying just,

01:44:00.600 just donating to this project to see that it either gets completed or to,

01:44:04.740 to the people that contributed are reimbursed.

01:44:07.440 If it isn't the,

01:44:08.720 the project is certainly under its way.

01:44:11.040 We have a number of interviews still to complete,

01:44:15.100 but no,

01:44:15.880 it is,

01:44:16.480 it is going full throttle ahead.

01:44:17.860 There is a slight pivot that's going to happen with Save Free Speech because Bill C-63, the Online Harms Act, is not so much of a threat anymore.

01:44:26.520 However, we are going to start another campaign to safeguard free speech in Canada because, yeah, there's lots of work to be done.

01:44:35.360 We're going to start going on the offense, guys.

01:44:37.960 But, again, if you want to support that, you can find the donate link at savefreespeech.ca or go to givesendgo.com slash savefreespeech.

01:44:46.020 Is there anything else?

01:44:46.820 let me make one comment on that if you don't mind of course um c63 is dead now with the

01:44:53.540 provocation uh again there is there is a silver lining with provocation and that is dead but it

01:44:59.780 will come back um in some form sure um with uh when pierre polyev wins the election um you know

01:45:09.460 Pierre Polyev is going to continue to fund all these third-party NGOs and institutions like anti-hate.ca.

01:45:19.020 They're going to continue to promote this idea that disinformation, misinformation, you know, or let me say this,

01:45:30.120 that dissenting views are misinformation and disinformation

01:45:35.500 and must be diminished and suppressed.

01:45:40.360 So that will, you know, the bill number will be different.

01:45:44.900 Some of the content may be slightly different, but not much.

01:45:49.580 So this is a path that all the political parties are on.

01:45:55.500 and uh and whether it's the crook or the carny uh running the show um you're going to get the same

01:46:04.840 the same circus absolutely and uh i've seen these this conservative party debate against

01:46:12.620 this censorship bill and they're like well we just need to enforce the existing hate speech laws

01:46:17.560 and yeah so no you're absolutely right it's just going to manifest as a new uh bill in the future

01:46:24.160 And that's why, you know, this website, that's why it's, you know, I'm going to continue to be a safe free speech watchdog.

01:46:30.500 Because I'm sure something else is going to come up in the near future, not to worry.

01:46:35.540 But, yeah, thanks so much for the chat, Randy.

01:46:39.220 I really appreciate it.

01:46:40.840 You can follow him on Randy Hillier on X slash Twitter.

01:46:44.480 Is there anything else that you wanted to say before we get going?

01:46:47.760 No, I've enjoyed the conversation.

01:46:50.080 I hope people see that there's an opportunity for them to be involved.

01:46:57.620 There's nothing stops you from phoning up your representatives and saying, I want a referendum on this.

01:47:06.940 I want to see a bilateral commission established.

01:47:10.080 I want to see you protecting and defending Canadian identity and culture.

01:47:20.080 And, you know, and maybe saying, Danielle or Scott or whoever, it's time for you to have a referendum with this on these ideas.

01:47:32.840 And I would say if you want to follow, I'm on X at Randy Hillier.

01:47:38.580 It's still being censored heavily.

01:47:41.240 But my Substack, randyhillier.substack.com is one of my uncensored

01:47:49.020 or one of my only uncensored platforms.

01:47:52.400 But I'm also on Facebook and Instagram and Telegram as well.

01:47:56.140 And I've enjoyed the conversation and hope to continue to find improvements in our country.

01:48:08.220 As do I, as do I.

01:48:10.360 Thanks so much again for joining me, Randy.

01:48:12.980 I'm sure we'll talk again soon.

01:48:14.360 Thanks for the super chats, everybody.

01:48:16.140 Thank you so much for watching.

01:48:17.380 Make sure you like, share, subscribe, all that good stuff.

01:48:20.440 And yeah, until next time, it's okay to demand higher standard folks.

01:48:26.140 Thanks so much for watching.

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