Greg Wycliffe - March 15, 2022


Tyrone in Toronto wants Trudeau to Admit his Mistakes


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In this episode, we sit down with a good friend of ours to talk about the protests in Canada and what they mean to him and his family. We talk about what it means to live in a free country and what it's like to be a protestor.

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00:00:00.000 thanks man no problem this is very high-tech stuff we got here i am here with tyrone tyrone
00:00:06.640 and uh were you here with your family i think yes yeah ever since the truckers uh came here
00:00:12.320 yeah we've been coming here every week well we missed one week but we've been coming every week
00:00:16.160 since then yeah that's almost a month it's been like a few weeks then yeah yeah what are these
00:00:21.120 protests like what does it mean to you well a lot has been going on over the last few years
00:00:26.400 and you know when something new happens you're like okay we don't know what's going on let's
00:00:31.680 try and figure it out before we make any decisions but it seems like they aren't trying to learn
00:00:36.720 anything do anything new and not only are they doing the same things that they've been doing
00:00:41.600 that haven't been working they're now requiring us to do new things that infringe on things that
00:00:48.240 i thought were rights that free people were supposed to have i i thought i thought these were rights uh
00:00:55.440 sorry i uh yeah no exactly that's how people are feeling right like uh pretty sure this was in
00:01:01.840 the charter uh this country's free right this is this country free well i thought honestly i last year
00:01:07.680 i would have told you before the qr code i would have told you yeah we're in a we're in a free country
00:01:13.040 yeah no i'm not saying we're not i'm just saying i can't just say yeah we're in a free country
00:01:17.600 i definitely can't say that so were you born in canada yes yeah and a lot of people are saying they
00:01:22.880 saw this freedom convoy and they felt like this canadian pride that they hadn't felt in a long
00:01:27.280 time absolutely i you know what i had heard about it and i wasn't really paying too much attention but
00:01:32.720 i happened to be on this road called barter road that runs parallel to the 400 before it reaches 401
00:01:39.200 on the thursday that the freedom convoy is coming through toronto and i just heard all the speaking i
00:01:43.280 looked up at the highway from where i was i saw all these flags and all these trucks and i said oh wow
00:01:48.560 there really are here there's a lot of people this is pretty cool yeah yeah yeah all these strangers
00:01:54.000 right with red and white flags yeah exactly it's pretty cool to see that so i'm glad i was in that
00:01:59.120 place at that time to actually see what's going on and then the next day i heard how there were a lot
00:02:04.240 of people that were walking down onto the on-ramp at keel 401 yeah get onto the ramp and how traffic
00:02:10.000 was slowed down there because people were on the overpasses just heralding everybody so that was pretty
00:02:15.440 cool and so now it's march 5th now and you know some provinces have like gotten rid of
00:02:20.480 the mandates but you're still here and a lot of people are still here because it's like we're not
00:02:24.720 satisfied yes when when are you going to be satisfied what do you want you know what i will
00:02:29.040 be satisfied when they acknowledge the mistakes that they've made and said we're we're going to pull
00:02:34.720 back x y and z just like when they ended the emergencies acts somehow some things that they needed
00:02:42.320 that were given to them by the emergencies act they said they were keeping place namely some of
00:02:47.760 the financial measures i am just thinking okay if we're in a free country where we have checks and
00:02:53.840 balances so that in order for you to get that power there's an act they have to call into play in order
00:02:59.200 to get those powers and then you rescind the act but you keep some of what you didn't have before the
00:03:04.800 act that were a part of the act if the people who wrote this act think that this is an infringement on
00:03:11.520 your freedoms which is why you have to do x y and z to get it going how could keeping any of that
00:03:17.440 yeah say like obviously those things that they thought were things we should have that you've
00:03:22.080 now just decided you're going to keep away from us yeah it's like they've like pulled a trick on us
00:03:26.880 or something it's like watching a dealer like deal the card and then they're like
00:03:31.920 some people can see you can see what the dealer is doing but most people can't yeah that's actually a
00:03:36.880 very good analogy that's not that's not fair and they're like well it is because of emergency
00:03:41.840 measures it's like what the hell is going on here do you watch the news in this country i watch
00:03:47.200 news from all around the world including including this country so what do you think about the news
00:03:51.360 specifically in canada well okay let's put it this way when i watch any news that is essentially
00:03:57.440 safe um supported around the world you see a different bias based on whatever the i guess
00:04:03.600 dominant beliefs in that state are right so that happens over here but when you compare what you
00:04:10.080 get from kind of state or corporate sponsored news compared to what people like you are doing people
00:04:15.920 who you you probably have your own bias too but i find people are more genuine they don't necessarily
00:04:22.880 hide their bias when they're independent and some people are actually really just open and want to look
00:04:28.960 at different information from different sides now they might still come with their point of view
00:04:33.520 but they show you stuff that's even counter to their view sometimes i i just find that the news
00:04:38.960 media in canada that's like canadian news is a very homogenous so you kind of gotta go other places
00:04:46.880 to find uh yeah it's it's so true and you were saying looking for like people with other opinions
00:04:52.320 here on our march there me and my cameraman eager we were trying to stop people who are like 1.00
00:04:58.400 disapproving of the protest and like just like talk to them like hey i would love to hear your and they
00:05:03.520 always scurry off most of the time why do you think that is you know what i believe that a lot of people
00:05:10.800 not everybody but a lot of people who kind of support the mandates in part it's because well i've already
00:05:18.240 gotten the shot so what's my problem all they have to do is get the shot and i think part of why they
00:05:23.440 think that way is that i would venture to say that more than half of the people who got it didn't get
00:05:28.960 it because they thought it's something they really needed to do it was just a matter of convenience
00:05:33.600 and they think that well if i'm going to have to defend that position what am i going to say if they
00:05:39.440 ask me some real questions i don't know i just thought it was convenience right so because then they'd
00:05:45.760 probably get some kind of dissonance because they're being told the story that this is a good
00:05:49.520 thing to do they've done it so that makes them feel good but then if they have to defend their
00:05:54.720 decision since they kind of just did it out of convenience they don't have much to say except for
00:05:59.040 repeat things that you've heard already they can't give you a thought process they can't like walk you
00:06:04.160 down the path to their conclusion so it's a little intimidating yeah i mean it would be intimidating to
00:06:10.400 not be able to explain yourself it's like no offense but like the one woman walking by and
00:06:17.200 she's just like disgusting and i'm like would you i would love to hear more than one word disgusting 1.00
00:06:24.000 please anything but oh have you heard of bill c36 by chance i have i don't remember what it is though
00:06:31.440 but i do i do feel that i do remember hearing about that yeah a lot of people are like oh yeah it's some
00:06:37.360 bullshit that the liberals are trying to pass right now like bill c36 is a a censorship bill
00:06:43.680 essentially and they're trying to pass it like they're trying to redefine hate speech believe it
00:06:48.960 oh my gosh i already and i'm i'm a a black person i already don't really believe in the idea of hate
00:06:59.360 speech laws so i do believe that speech could be hateful but i mean see and this is also i before i
00:07:04.880 would have said we're a free country but i still would have had some caveats because could we really
00:07:09.680 be a free country if we have hate speech i don't i don't really get it i don't get it and one thing
00:07:16.400 i believe too which is something that uh marcus garvey one of my uh one of my heroes believe is that
00:07:23.120 marcus garvey yeah marcus mozai garvey he's uh one of jamaica's national heroes he is uh an essential
00:07:30.960 pan-africanist if you're ever getting fan-africanism studying that you have to study marcus garvey
00:07:36.240 he would work with anybody actually he went on a speaking tour with uh somebody that i forget if he
00:07:43.120 was uh from the clan or not but this is something that also malcolm from the clan yes but here's here's
00:07:49.280 the thing here's the thing people when they hide their views from you you don't know how you can really
00:07:57.920 relate with them they they'll be doing all kinds of things to undermine you but when you know
00:08:01.680 somebody's position then maybe there's still some things you can work on even if you don't like each
00:08:06.560 other because there's something that you want to get done but you know their position you know where
00:08:10.320 you overlap where you don't and where you're totally opposed so i don't believe in hate speech because
00:08:15.040 then it makes the hateful person resentful because they can't speak freely yeah and then you also don't
00:08:20.400 know who those people are that you have to watch out for because they find ways to keep it underground
00:08:24.720 it breeds dishonesty yes exactly secrecy exactly exactly i'll have to check that guy out pan-africanism
00:08:32.400 is that like you know the colonialists yeah yeah yeah anything else to add to like encourage people
00:08:40.640 to like come out and be counted you know what i find it very disturbing that for something that's
00:08:46.480 supposed to be a hallmark of a freedom democratic society they decided to enact an emergency act which is
00:08:52.160 something that's kind of the antithesis to democratic society that's something that i mean the bill that
00:08:58.320 preceded it was called the war measures act kind of gives you an idea of what situations you kind of
00:09:03.760 need to get those powers when a government is willing to do that just because people are disagreeing with
00:09:09.760 them and making their life inconvenient because they don't know how to manage the situation using the
00:09:15.120 laws which serve us pretty well and going outside of the judiciary which i don't think judges are
00:09:21.440 perfect but at least you have a third party adjudicating things rather than just these guys
00:09:26.400 saying hey do x y and z and that's it but when you have a government that is willing to go to that length
00:09:31.600 to stop you from expressing your own thoughts you don't know how far that can go anytime something
00:09:40.560 happens that we say is really bad or egregious in a society it didn't start with people coming in 0.97
00:09:47.280 with ak's and gunning down of people it started with one person or two people doing something that was
00:09:55.920 kind of bad but they got away with it and then they're able like hey let's push envelope a little
00:10:00.240 further let's push envelope a little further so if we let the government that's supposed to serve us
00:10:04.240 get away with i think it's pretty big but let's assume that i think the emergency act was a small
00:10:10.560 thing to get away with something small it's kind of like you tenderize the meat side next time you
00:10:16.080 just throw it on the fire like let's let's they push it a little further a little further exactly
00:10:23.920 don't don't give the first inch don't give the first inch i i don't like the term personal color i think
00:10:28.640 it's stupid like you're a jamaican like you're a canadian i'm canadian my parents are jamaican 0.99
00:10:34.080 but yeah yeah right so um you know the cbc and a lot of the canadian establishment liberal party
00:10:40.320 they are you know you may disagree i feel like they're very obsessed with like diversity and this
00:10:45.360 sort of stuff and and some people might call it like forced or something like this but meanwhile at
00:10:50.880 the protest we have like a very kind of natural reflection of canada like the kind of natural
00:10:56.080 diversity what would you say is the difference between like what they do on the cbc and like what's
00:11:01.840 happening here well i would say so good or bad because to have a society you have to agree on
00:11:07.520 some things part of the cbc's job being government funded is to kind of shape the public view of
00:11:13.600 what's acceptable or not that's not necessarily bad what what would make it not bad is if they
00:11:20.800 emphasize critical thought and independent thought in schools then it wouldn't be it wouldn't be so bad
00:11:26.880 because you have to get some consensus but if people actually were able to think and say hey no i
00:11:30.880 don't want to agree with that i want to change that then that's kind of a safeguard which we don't
00:11:34.800 have right but yeah i i think that they do but i don't think it's necessarily negative even though i
00:11:41.840 don't agree with everything that they're doing i don't but hey in a free society people are going
00:11:46.800 to do things i don't agree with and that's how much i value it okay cool so yeah uh tyron when
00:11:51.760 are you running for politics never never we need you bro come on no i don't got time for that man
00:12:01.920 all right well thanks for your time all right thank you very much take care
00:12:07.200 awesome the freedom convoy may be over but we are going to keep fighting for those freedoms if you
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