Greg Wycliffe - October 06, 2023


What makes a protest effective? | Controlled Op 30


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00:00:00.000 The era of COVID protesting in Canada is officially over.
00:00:04.420 During COVID, there was lockdowns, restrictions, there was mandates,
00:00:07.920 there was desperation among so many Canadian citizens that drove them into the streets to protest.
00:00:13.800 And a lot of great things came of this.
00:00:15.400 A lot of Canadians connected and networked and galvanized behind this cause of stopping mandates,
00:00:21.480 which of course had the culmination at the trucker convoy in 2022.
00:00:25.200 too. And in the aftermath of the trucker convoy, we've discovered that we definitely do not
00:00:29.980 live in a free country. This isn't a fair democracy, and there's a lot of work we have to do
00:00:34.680 in order to fight back, and it can't just happen by protesting in the streets. But getting out to
00:00:40.020 protest can definitely still be very, very effective. And tonight, I want to talk about
00:00:44.100 what makes an effective protest movement and what does not, and generally what the next chapter of
00:00:49.480 freedom fighting looks like in Canada. I promise you, I will not let you down.
00:00:54.220 the trucks parked outside illegally should move canada's conservatives will meet our paris climate
00:01:02.280 commitment enough with the world so mr speaker i take that back to champion our conservative
00:01:08.200 principles we are the party of law and order to call in the auditors we haven't yet decided
00:01:13.040 whether we're going to call for the government to impose a mandatory test or vaccination
00:01:17.040 and we will win the next election
00:01:24.220 Canada must not ignore the reality of climate change.
00:01:42.960 Why weren't Canadians vaccinated in January and February like everyone else?
00:01:54.220 Welcome, everybody, to Controlled Opposition, episode 30.
00:02:02.680 I'm your host, Greg Wycliffe.
00:02:04.300 We have a very, very exciting show tonight.
00:02:06.540 There's a lot to go over because there's these different convoys, or they're not convoys,
00:02:12.800 they're protests going on, and there's a lot that's been on my mind circling this,
00:02:18.060 and I want to kind of just lay it all out.
00:02:20.420 We're going to be talking about the optics war, what the optics war is.
00:02:24.420 We're going to be talking about, of course, what makes an effective protest movement and what does not make an effective protest movement.
00:02:31.000 We're going to be talking about politics in general and how it actually works.
00:02:35.300 And yeah. Oh, I'm also going to be kind of the bearer of bad news tonight.
00:02:40.820 I'm going to be a little bit of a, you know, don't shoot the messenger, but I'm going to kind of be an asshole tonight because I need to say some things that need to be said.
00:02:48.160 when it comes to what's going on in the movement, you know.
00:02:53.160 So this is, yeah, I think we'll just kind of just jump right into it.
00:02:58.280 Maybe I'll talk a little bit first about my sort of journey into politics.
00:03:03.360 I want to talk about this East-West convoy that's going on
00:03:07.060 or the East-West Save the Children convoy
00:03:08.920 and why I don't think it's really helping anything.
00:03:12.040 I think it's kind of only just exposing people who think like us
00:03:15.780 to more ridicule from the mainstream media
00:03:18.100 and based on some of some leaked conversations that sound like a legal activity could be even
00:03:22.660 far worse the the you know and and people are going to say oh that convoy is different that
00:03:27.820 that leaked conversation doesn't have to do with this well we're in a new canada now ever since
00:03:33.000 the trucker convoy of 2022 and uh that that uh canada essentially like i said in the introduction
00:03:39.060 it's not really a free country guys like we're not really living in like the the canada that
00:03:43.960 we thought we lived in okay uh we're living um in this weird communist canada where the state
00:03:51.180 does have a lot of power the establishment does have a lot of power and they can throw you in
00:03:55.400 jail for seemingly no reason or they can make up lies to throw you in jail and this is important
00:03:59.860 it's like you know it's it's sad that we have to play by their rules but um you know we need to
00:04:06.480 recognize where we're at in this situation and and know the rules so we can not make it harder
00:04:13.520 for ourselves because today marks the 600th day of the coots for being behind bars some of them i
00:04:22.760 think still on remand or all four of them still on remand which is completely unheard of you know i
00:04:28.480 you know if i'm speculating i would say if if the uh if the government or if the rcmp if ccis
00:04:36.600 actually had dirt on these fellas on these four they probably would have went to trial by now and
00:04:41.500 kind of exposed how they're these horrible people and blah, blah, blah. And all this,
00:04:45.100 all these charges are justified. But since it's been 600 days, I'm thinking they're trying to
00:04:49.420 cover up their corruption. Right. And I sent out a tweet earlier this week relating to these
00:04:57.320 convoys. I've made a few tick tocks about these convoys because things were fishy. Things didn't
00:05:01.760 look good. And at worst, these convoys actually bring up the same smears that came up against
00:05:11.480 the trucker convoy back in 2022 because during 2022 there's so many lies that they tried to say
00:05:18.840 about the trucker convoy i'm sure i don't have to go over all of them we were burning down
00:05:22.720 apartment buildings uh we wanted to overthrow the government uh we wanted to do all sorts of
00:05:28.120 illegal activity so i kind of tweeted about this the other day funny how these sketchy fed convoys
00:05:34.620 show up just as political dissidents from 2022 convoy are being vindicated you know jeremy
00:05:40.600 mckenzie has been totally really vindicated so far he hasn't he hasn't passed all of his charges but
00:05:46.640 hate gate hashtag hate gate has come out obviously vindicating jeremy mckenzie uh tamara litch
00:05:53.220 barber they're going through their court dates right now it looks like they're going to be
00:05:57.400 vindicated and also funny how these fed convoys perfectly serve up the exact same smears that
00:06:03.920 they levied against the 2022 convoy which is doing illegal stuff and wanting to overthrow the
00:06:08.920 government. If you remember in 2022, these were kind of the biggest things. They're trying to
00:06:12.580 burn down apartment buildings. They're trying to like be violent with all this stuff. It wasn't
00:06:16.060 true. And now there's all this, there's a few things that have come up associated with these
00:06:21.560 convoys. It's very unclear. Honestly, these convoys are, they're a mess. People are saying,
00:06:26.720 no, Greg, this one's okay. And that one's not okay. Um, you know, like that one's the sketchy
00:06:30.860 one. This one isn't. And then there's this poster and then there's a new poster. And then it's like
00:06:35.040 a poster they just made the other day and it's like guys you didn't even no one even opened
00:06:39.000 photoshop to make like a consistent branding for the so-called amazing protest that's going to save
00:06:43.280 the children this is a problem houston we have a problem and yeah let's let's uh i mean i'll start
00:06:50.640 with my first point of like this is the end of the the covid era of protesting what i mean by that
00:06:56.640 is you know people were desperate when these when these when this protesting started against the
00:07:04.100 lockdowns against the mandates and it was a scary time of course that culminated with the trucker
00:07:10.380 convoy but now we see what happens even when we win with the convoy sure they may have reversed
00:07:17.080 the mandates and that sort of thing but there's still people who are dealing with legal uh legal
00:07:22.260 issues and things like this and we need to be more organized is the point because what characterized
00:07:30.180 these COVID protests was the desperation and how it was kind of all just kind of thrown together.
00:07:35.740 It's all kind of just like thrown together. Even the trucker convoy, there was a lot of
00:07:38.800 organization, mind you, in that. Like a lot of like there was people who were working every part
00:07:43.620 of the protest going on, keeping it clean and tidy, making sure people were supplied, blah,
00:07:47.460 blah, blah. There's a lot of organization there. But generally, in terms of all the support that
00:07:51.280 came to the convoy, there was no plan of we want mandates to end. We're showing up to help out.
00:07:56.300 Right. And since then, you know, you can't just just look, because this with this current convoy, it kind of has some of that sort of strategy of like, let's just show up and save the children. Let's just show up and save the children, guys. And it's like, well, save the children. Like, can you be more specific? Because with the mandates, it was drop the mandates. It was very clear. It was like brand new legislation or brand new rules all about all about vaccine mandates, all about all these restrictions.
00:08:22.920 It was obvious what specifically we did not want anymore.
00:08:27.320 When you say save the children, there's actually a couple of different things.
00:08:30.420 One of them is get rid of the gender indoctrination.
00:08:32.440 Another one is we don't want the kids to be vaccinated anymore.
00:08:36.000 And the problem is I have to explain that to you.
00:08:38.560 The problem is anybody outside looking in doesn't know like what this convoy is about.
00:08:44.640 It's very disorganized and it's just characterized, I think, by that desperation and that sort of like that hype of we got to do something.
00:08:51.900 we got to do something and really I talked about the next chapter of protesting the next chapter
00:08:56.460 needs to be needs to be more organized but before I kind of go through all of this again in more
00:09:00.720 detail I want to tell you about my journey into politics and what I have learned because I feel
00:09:08.120 I have learned very very valuable nuggets of information that will really help anybody
00:09:12.980 navigate politics because I learned all of this the hard way okay so I ran for for those who don't
00:09:18.900 know, I ran for politics in 2019 for the People's Party of Canada. And I learned a few lessons right
00:09:25.200 away about the reality of politics. And that is politics isn't like a popularity contest. Politics
00:09:33.380 is a popularity contest. And similarly, it's not like a propaganda war. It is a propaganda war.
00:09:42.800 and because of this the messaging must appeal to the common man okay messaging of any political
00:09:49.940 nature must appeal to the common man and if someone's saying like oh greg you know politics
00:09:54.720 isn't the answer politics isn't the answer listen folks a political protest is well any protest
00:10:01.280 is political okay i said the example on another podcast if there was this big apocalypse tomorrow
00:10:06.980 and everything went down to zero there would still be politics in action there would be different
00:10:11.820 groups. There were different to be different factions who would be trying to organize for
00:10:15.580 power and for resources against other factions. There would always be politics at play. So of
00:10:19.700 course, you know, these things apply, even if it's something outside of the realm of the house of
00:10:25.180 commons or even political parties. Okay. This is how politics always works. It's very much based
00:10:30.840 on, I like to think of the high school hallway. I like to think of the high school election,
00:10:36.100 you know, the, uh, the student council president. Oh, is it just a popularity contest? Like that's
00:10:40.920 not fair think about Trudeau guys it is a popularity contest and think of think of Trudeau's
00:10:46.220 propaganda it is it is a propaganda war that is so much what it comes down to and that that just
00:10:52.400 kind of goes to like the next collection of things that I've learned about politics which is
00:10:55.780 the cynicism you need to embrace the cynicism of politics you want to understand how it works
00:11:00.680 and that is and this is this is like not a fun fact but it is what it is 80 percent of people
00:11:05.920 are medium to low intelligence,
00:11:07.860 which means you need to dumb it down.
00:11:10.500 You need to make your message simple,
00:11:14.740 like I said before,
00:11:15.780 and it needs to be easy to understand.
00:11:18.600 And the other thing, embracing the cynicism,
00:11:21.180 people don't care, okay?
00:11:23.160 People don't care.
00:11:25.000 People don't care, especially in Canada, they don't care.
00:11:27.860 So the number one obstacle to overcome is that apathy.
00:11:31.440 And the question is, how do we activate people?
00:11:33.660 How do we activate people?
00:11:34.760 And connected to that is the point above, which is, you know, dumb it down, make it simple to
00:11:39.480 understand. And then the other thing is after that, which is fear and anger motivates people.
00:11:45.340 Okay. So people are saying, save the children. And they're saying, Hey, if you don't do this,
00:11:49.340 then, uh, you know, the children will be, uh, you know, something's going to happen to the
00:11:53.920 children. And I, I do agree with that sentiment and they're on the right track of, of creating
00:11:58.940 that fear and that anger to get people to move but the message isn't clear save the children
00:12:05.180 but like about what is it about the gender ideology or is it about the the the injections
00:12:10.980 about the the vaccinations and you might say oh greg why does it matter just go save the children
00:12:15.360 i'm like guys it needs to be clear it needs to be something that people can get behind it needs to
00:12:19.360 be simple because as i said you know people are stupid and people are apathetic okay so if you 0.74
00:12:25.240 don't make it simple, then they're not going to care about what it is you're trying to push
00:12:29.000 with your political movement or with your protest. And this is similar. People don't like to hear
00:12:34.740 this when it comes to the cynicism of politics. The truth doesn't matter. Scoring points matters
00:12:41.340 and the narrative matters. And the thing with that is the caveat there is the truth is still
00:12:48.340 important and the truth can still be very powerful. And people on our side, the truth
00:12:53.140 is like the secret weapon that we have we have the truth we have the authenticity on our side
00:12:57.480 which really gives us a lot of energy and a lot of power but when it comes to this conversation
00:13:03.040 of speaking to the kind of the everyman you know it's the truth doesn't matter so much as like
00:13:08.600 seeing the narrative that people believe and trying to influence it in uh in the right direction
00:13:13.880 right um but these are kind of just some things that i've learned since uh since joining politics
00:13:19.580 And it's and it's definitely relevant to how these political movements operate.
00:13:24.300 You know, I think I think actually to drive my point home.
00:13:27.460 Yeah, let's bring up this this one of these first tweets here.
00:13:30.340 So this is from this is from the event that happened recently.
00:13:36.240 I guess it was a meeting in a parking lot of the hashtag Save the Children convoy.
00:13:42.940 Here are some of the leaders, although I saw in another podcast that they don't have leaders.
00:13:49.580 which um well i'll get to that in a moment but speaking of messaging and the messaging being
00:13:54.360 unclear let's just play this clip to kind of show you what i mean in terms how this uh this is hard
00:13:59.780 for the everyman to kind of understand and get on board with we stand for all humanity we're
00:14:04.260 standing here for the children that's what we're here for apparently colin has no sound and for
00:14:09.360 trudeau for treason guys don't forget we're not letting trudeau off the hook we have to save the
00:14:14.540 okay so save the children trudeau for treason save the country there there's a lot of different
00:14:24.380 messagings kind of swirling around here and i don't want to be too mean but uh you know
00:14:29.760 there's a lot to be said about professionalism there's a lot to be said about looking good
00:14:34.420 and and representing your message because let's face it folks if you're if you're not taking your
00:14:40.020 protest seriously if you're not going to like dress up and be serious about saving the children
00:14:44.780 then why the hell would anybody else take you seriously right if you're not going to seriously
00:14:50.820 have a clear message for people to get behind that's focused and and have a leader that's going
00:14:57.300 to look professional and deliver the right message to the people watching then then why do you
00:15:01.800 actually expect to to get anything done here again back to my original point there's a lot of
00:15:06.260 this kind of desperate thrown together energy that's characterizing this convoy that maybe it
00:15:12.260 worked in the past when when a lot of the country truly was desperate and we were able to hop on the
00:15:16.920 trucker convoy like maybe that worked at the time but that era is over it's it's time to get
00:15:22.200 organized if you have a political movement or a political idea or a thing that you want to push
00:15:26.340 forward it needs to be more organized it needs to be more structured there needs to be more
00:15:30.880 white collar work and a great example of that is the um is the million march for children 0.93
00:15:38.040 i'd like to bring that up because it's it it does look professional it does look good oh let me
00:15:45.480 change this you know they at least have like a nice website and this sort of thing they it's uh
00:15:54.060 it looks like something that any concerned parent could get on board with okay it's a lot more
00:16:00.860 approachable. And, and I, I'll, I'll get back to my notes here of things I've learned about
00:16:06.380 politics, but speaking of the leader things, cause I saw, I saw one of the people there,
00:16:11.040 Dr. Shoemaker. I should bring that clip up cause it's, it's also, but
00:16:15.640 I've learned in politics that psychology trumps everything. Okay. Psychology trumps everything.
00:16:23.240 People don't follow policies. They actually follow people. People follow people, leaders.
00:16:28.600 If you look at anything in history, any popular political movement in history, it wasn't because they had ideas and policies.
00:16:36.800 No, they were following a leader.
00:16:38.620 They were following some strong leader in one way or another.
00:16:42.780 I'm actually thinking in the exception to that is probably Biden.
00:16:46.500 Like, was Biden really that leader?
00:16:48.980 Or maybe it was.
00:16:49.940 It's almost like the idea of Biden was actually just being anti-Trump.
00:16:54.240 It's like, instead of like following Biden, they were like, you know, running away from Trump, which again, the psychology, it still proves my point that the psychology trumps everything.
00:17:03.600 It wasn't so much about loving and following Biden or loving and following like democratic values, but it was running away from Trump.
00:17:10.800 Right. And actually, that's that's something that's happening right now with with Trudeau and Polly Eve, obviously.
00:17:17.940 And another thing, too, that I think is interesting is beliefs come before values and policies.
00:17:23.340 Values and policies are obviously important, but it's really the beliefs that people believe in.
00:17:29.700 Because here's the thing, you know, we all probably have a belief that we want to at least take care of the environment and not pollute, right?
00:17:37.460 But the problem is so many normies believe that it's climate change.
00:17:42.320 And we believe that if we don't pay the carbon tax, that's why that the environment is going to be destroyed because they believe that we have to pay the carbon tax.
00:17:51.120 So it's a very kind of important thing there.
00:17:53.000 And again, it speaks to the messaging and the stories and the narratives that we tell people, not so much the truth, but the stories and the narratives that we're able to kind of share with people to to kind of get them moving and get them excited about whatever it is, whatever it is we're trying to push here.
00:18:10.740 um i do want to take a quick moment to uh apologize to you chat because i've done a lot
00:18:18.460 of live streams and there has been so many times this is a quick little caveat here um there have
00:18:24.280 been so many times doing uh my show here where i've like ended the stream and i looked at the
00:18:29.540 chat and i'm like i miss super chats i missed them like i didn't read them out i did not read
00:18:34.320 out the super chaps and it's like greg you had one job and you totally messed it up you couldn't 0.98
00:18:39.640 even read the super chats so i just wanted to take a quick moment to apologize uh about that
00:18:45.140 because yeah there's no there's no excuse there's no excuse for that but i'm gonna bring up a clip
00:18:51.140 here what is what is the optics war right what is the optics war um i know i'm throwing a lot
00:19:02.040 of information out at you guys but this is this is this is like a really important uh concept to
00:19:06.820 understand because the optics war in in many respects like people say we're out there we're
00:19:14.320 in information war fair enough a lot of people call it now the optics war and i think i'd agree
00:19:19.680 with that characterization um because it's not just about the information that people are consuming
00:19:24.880 but because people have short attention spans and because people are kind of like so impulsive with
00:19:31.040 the information that they consume. The information doesn't matter so much as how people
00:19:36.400 consume it and how they internalize it and how they feel about that information.
00:19:41.700 And is it entertaining? Is it captivating? How does it make them feel? And optics is kind of
00:19:47.880 a catch-all to define, to kind of define that. It's the optics war. And essentially in the optics
00:19:56.100 war again back to my notes what is the optics war whoever looks crazy or low class loses and
00:20:05.560 whoever looks normal and attractive wins that is the optics war i think in a nutshell and i'll
00:20:14.080 bring up the example of someone like billboard chris okay because he's someone who has gained a
00:20:19.780 lot of steam and popularity and i think he's introduced a lot of normie parents into or just
00:20:26.460 normie canadians in general or and in america into just how crazy the trans movement is okay because 0.94
00:20:33.720 he has won so many optics wars in this respect where there'll be billboard chris in public he'll
00:20:40.680 have his sandwich board on he'll be talking like a normal person he's well dressed and he's saying
00:20:46.040 Hey, like, I don't think children can consent to puberty blockers.
00:20:49.440 And then there'll be this crazy tranny re freaking out, attacking him, acting all demonic and insane. 1.00
00:20:56.080 And then anybody who sees that clip, they will think, okay, you know, this, um, this crazy tranny is like, they're crazy. 1.00
00:21:06.400 I don't agree with that person.
00:21:08.040 While billboard Chris isn't looking normal.
00:21:10.520 He has one.
00:21:11.420 I think that his ideas are probably the best ideas, the better ideas, right?
00:21:17.340 And, you know, I, it's, there was so many lies surrounding the trucker convoy, okay?
00:21:28.800 I already mentioned it, the building, the burning of apartment buildings, all these made up things.
00:21:33.160 But something that I kept and many others kept pointing out was where is, where are the clips of all this violence?
00:21:40.660 Where's the clips of all these fires taking place?
00:21:43.460 Because this is something you need to be aware of when you're part of a political movement or a protest movement.
00:21:49.700 All of the bad clips will be used against you.
00:21:53.300 All of the bad clips, all of the bad everything will be used against you.
00:21:57.760 And that's all the more reason to be more professional, to be more organized, to have a leader,
00:22:03.920 to dictate the sort of behavior and the messaging of your protest.
00:22:10.660 And maybe we got lucky at the trucker convoy,
00:22:13.380 but a lot of that kind of was naturally already there.
00:22:16.320 Everyone who I talked to, I interviewed over 300 people there.
00:22:19.260 Everyone was like, the mandates, the mandates, the mandates,
00:22:21.700 get rid of the mandates.
00:22:22.740 Everybody had the same message.
00:22:24.020 And everybody kind of intuitively knew the news sucks.
00:22:28.940 These politicians suck. 1.00
00:22:30.360 They're lying.
00:22:31.800 They're going to try and make us look bad.
00:22:33.320 So I think intuitively everyone was on their best behavior
00:22:36.020 because they knew, thankfully, they kind of knew
00:22:39.080 and had this awareness of that's how what the game was so we had like a perfect storm there
00:22:44.460 at the trucker convoy where people had the same message just because they knew like hey i can't
00:22:48.460 leave the country can't go into a restaurant duh i want the mandates gone and then number three hey
00:22:52.580 hey i don't like this the way this government's operating they're obviously going to try to make
00:22:56.160 us look bad so yeah i'm going to be on my best behavior and it was like it was a perfect storm
00:23:00.300 it wasn't something that was necessarily planned or organized that well but it manifested in a
00:23:06.020 perfect way it was kind of miraculous that there was no kind of unoptical clip throughout that
00:23:11.880 whole convoy or at least there wasn't any sort of explicit violence or any like any actually
00:23:15.900 illegal activity uh and that's why these people are being slowly but surely vindicated these
00:23:20.780 recent convoys i can't i i'm sorry to say i cannot i can't say the same i can't say that uh that this
00:23:29.020 recent convoy is like is is looking great and people are might be mad at me for showing like
00:23:33.960 the worst of the worst um of this current convoy going on but kind of doing you a favor here because
00:23:39.640 this is how the media is going to work if they wanted to draw attention to this convoy they
00:23:44.040 could just play these clips and and and make it look bad and it's like that like this is a lesson
00:23:50.120 this is this is a learning moment where we can move on past the covet era of protesting where
00:23:56.580 when things are randomly thrown together and there's no leader and we're all just kind of
00:24:00.820 hanging out drinking and smoking in the parking lot and this is kind of the case in point uh
00:24:04.700 to what i'm talking about this is an edit that i think is put together by uh by edgy d here
00:24:09.920 friend of uh controlled opposition let's play it here
00:24:13.220 i've been selling my soul walking all day big democracy happened
00:24:18.720 there's infiltrators behind us so i can see it i did and waste my life away
00:24:28.540 Drive back home and drive my trouble away
00:24:31.640 It's a damn shame
00:24:33.040 What the world's gonna do
00:24:35.180 Get the fuck out, you fucking bitch 1.00
00:24:37.040 People like me
00:24:38.140 People like you
00:24:39.620 God bless you
00:24:40.920 God bless you
00:24:42.240 I live to just wake up and end up bitch 1.00
00:24:45.160 The numbers so far from what I've been hearing are with 3 million
00:24:48.360 But it is
00:24:49.380 Oh, it is
00:24:50.800 Living in the new world
00:24:53.560 Yeah, so it looks pretty chaotic
00:24:58.480 It looks kind of like a mess.
00:25:02.080 And you might say, well, Greg, how dare you share those clips?
00:25:06.080 That's not fair.
00:25:07.680 If I'm not mistaken, that is like the live streamers on the ground of this convoy
00:25:13.640 who are trying to get the message out there.
00:25:16.280 This is them putting their best foot forward.
00:25:18.960 Is it not?
00:25:19.760 This is them trying to get the message out there of their political movement
00:25:23.460 or of their protest?
00:25:24.540 oh it's it's not it's not looking great you're not going to speak to the everyman
00:25:31.840 with uh with clips like this um hanging out there you know it's uh you know i i won't do
00:25:38.760 like a full breakdown but it's like you know who is the leader here people are talking about all
00:25:43.120 sorts of different things this guy's got stains on his shirt i mean yeah call me an asshole if 0.86
00:25:49.180 you want but again if if if you seriously are trying to get people off the couch and excited
00:25:53.840 You want a normal, concerned Canadian parent, because there's a lot, you want to get them off the couch, maybe put a collared shirt on, maybe look like a professional, maybe look like you have a, you know, a cohesive, serious movement going on.
00:26:10.620 Because if you don't look serious, people aren't going to take you seriously.
00:26:13.780 It's not that hard to understand.
00:26:15.460 And again, I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news here, but, you know, this conversation needs to be had.
00:26:20.260 people need to understand this because we need to move past this into into what's actually going to
00:26:24.900 be effective which is what uh which will get to in a minute but i do want to kind of like just
00:26:29.240 drive this home here um let's bring up uh this clip so what you're going to see here is uh someone
00:26:37.140 from this save the children convoy uh you know dr shoemaker i've interviewed him he seems like a
00:26:42.480 respectable enough guy however he is here speaking on a podcast and like right beside him
00:26:50.040 You got somebody who's just like smoking a dart with like, you know, he's got his long hair there, like just like kind of chilling out.
00:26:58.080 Hey, we're here to save the children.
00:27:00.020 This is again, this is not a good look.
00:27:01.840 This is not a professional look.
00:27:04.180 The goal of a protest should be moving as many people in one direction as possible, like the convoy.
00:27:11.640 Maybe I actually missed that at the beginning when I described politics like like that is whether there's an apocalypse tomorrow.
00:27:17.460 that's always kind of the goal, right?
00:27:18.980 Is to have the large enough group of people
00:27:21.000 moving in the same direction.
00:27:23.340 And you need to be professional.
00:27:27.340 You need to be organized.
00:27:28.840 It really, there's a lot of parallels
00:27:30.640 between what makes a successful business
00:27:32.740 or with what makes successful content.
00:27:35.260 I think I wrote some of that down in my notes
00:27:36.780 because that's something that I do, right?
00:27:38.100 Is I make videos.
00:27:40.540 I make video content.
00:27:42.380 And in order to reach a wide amount of people,
00:27:45.100 there's a few things that I have to do.
00:27:46.760 I need to make the content easy to engage with.
00:27:49.840 I need to make sure it has a focused message.
00:27:52.600 I need to try and be professional and approachable.
00:27:55.820 You know, the content needs to be easy to digest.
00:27:58.800 And it's the same thing with the protest movement.
00:28:01.760 You want it to be easy to engage with.
00:28:03.640 You want it to have a focused message.
00:28:05.520 You want it professional and approachable.
00:28:08.560 Because like I said, with the other, whoops.
00:28:12.020 Like I said, with the, you know, the other truths, harsh truths.
00:28:16.760 of the cynicism of politics that that is 80% of people are of medium to low
00:28:20.880 intelligence. People don't really care. They're not going to do it.
00:28:23.820 If it's hard, if there's a lot of friction or resistance for you to actually
00:28:26.620 get engaged and that can be avoided with the, with the, with the clear message.
00:28:31.360 And I mean, my question for anyone who is from part of the,
00:28:35.460 this convoy of the East West, say the children convoy,
00:28:38.720 why are you not supporting though the 1 million March for children?
00:28:43.680 or why are you not sort of like because there is a protest for that coming up later in the month
00:28:49.100 on the 21st I don't understand why like there's a save of children then there's the one million
00:28:52.500 march for children um there's there's just so much there's so much wrong there's so much wrong
00:28:56.980 with uh with this convoy um or it's not a convoy it is a convoy uh there's all these leaked
00:29:05.060 conversations about illegal activity that has nothing to do with the convoy and I mean the
00:29:11.040 strangest most peculiar thing about it and you know i've made a couple tiktoks about this so i
00:29:16.280 won't reiterate myself um or maybe i should yeah maybe i should maybe i should maybe i should watch
00:29:22.720 this actually because i don't think i've uploaded this to youtube so i will i will play this quick
00:29:27.620 uh this is this is the worst case scenario um with with this convoy and uh that is that it
00:29:37.960 has been infiltrated by feds that there are feds encouraging and egging people on to do or say
00:29:44.560 certain um illegal activities but i note on that you know since starting controlled opposition i've
00:29:51.940 found that some people are saying oh like this person's controlled opera that person's a fed
00:29:55.880 this person's a fed and i i don't know it's because of me but there seems to be a lot of
00:30:00.460 people whipped up into like oh like you know pointing fingers of saying who's this and who's
00:30:04.160 who's who's who's our guy who isn't our guy um and it's it's important to obviously have that
00:30:11.720 conversation and and that's when the details really matter right when we're kind of sifting
00:30:15.920 out through uh you know who is our guy who is not our guy who is actually giving us something
00:30:20.520 productive that's worthwhile and who is not and um yeah but uh the the funny kind of rule i have
00:30:29.540 for that is it matters, but we shouldn't expect to actually find out 100% for sure if someone
00:30:44.740 is a federal agent or not. Because at the end of the day, we essentially just have to make
00:30:50.000 the decision that this person is not bearing fruit for us or this person is actually making
00:30:55.980 it harder for us. Like we have to look at the outcome of what this group or individual is doing
00:31:00.900 and make a decision if it's helping us or not. Uh, cause I think like when it comes to sifting
00:31:05.240 through the details of like this, um, definitively describing like, yes, this person absolutely is a
00:31:11.400 fed works for the fed. Uh, that's like a very hard to actually get down to that nitty gritty.
00:31:17.100 So in general, when I see a comp like convoys like this, or one convoy, the East, West,
00:31:21.840 say the children convoy, like, is it feds or is it people who have been misled and they're just
00:31:27.280 have a very stupid approach? I don't really care, but there's a good chance. Well, the people who
00:31:35.020 have a stupid approach are very susceptible to being influenced by feds and for the feds coming
00:31:40.060 in and potentially muddying the waters and making it much, much worse for everybody involved.
00:31:45.800 Right? So I think that's kind of the important takeaway. Like we're not going to necessarily
00:31:50.160 find out for sure if these people or people inside or influencing them are feds or not but if you just
00:31:55.800 look at the fruit that it's bearing and if you look at the outcome or like the fact that it's
00:31:59.780 not a productive outcome and the fact that there's like the clips of illegal let me just play this
00:32:05.080 clip to show uh give you the example of what i'm talking about i i recorded this video a few days
00:32:11.660 ago now when i first heard about this convoy basically this is the second video i made about
00:32:16.160 this is another warning about the east west save the children convoy i highly recommend that people
00:32:23.860 stay away from this and do not associate with this as you run the risk of being arrested or worse
00:32:29.400 my name is greg wycliffe i interviewed over 300 people at the trucker convoy
00:32:33.360 based on politically trumped up charges i wouldn't say i'm an expert on this stuff
00:32:38.280 on this stuff but i certainly have a good perspective on what it is like to try and
00:32:43.580 call out this government and how it relates to protests. The reason the trucker convoy in 2022
00:32:50.320 was such a success is because they tried to say that we were burning down apartment buildings.
00:32:55.160 They tried to say that we were violent. They tried to accuse us of being terrorists. None of that was
00:32:59.360 true. They couldn't find anything to pin illegal activity on us and slowly but surely all the
00:33:05.300 different people at this convoy are slowly but surely being vindicated. With this east-west
00:33:09.860 Save the Children Convoy, that is simply not the case. The plan has been kept under wraps
00:33:15.960 and secret, and there's been a leaked conversation that shares what their so-called plan is. Here's
00:33:20.380 a clip. There's a band of natives who go back to the planet and go burn a bridge. I don't agree
00:33:25.540 with necessarily that, but that is what I heard. They're planning on burning a bridge.
00:33:30.920 This clip alone is very incriminating for anyone who's associating with this so-called Save the
00:33:36.560 children convoy can you imagine if this clip was associated with the trucker convoy in 2022
00:33:41.160 the regime who wants to imprison people who think like us would have a lot to work with in terms of
00:33:48.120 justifying throwing us in jail and that sort of thing remember they already threw people in jail
00:33:52.780 on trumped up political charges but when they would have a clip like that hanging out there
00:33:57.180 this was part of the plan that is very very easy to criminalize people and throw them in jail
00:34:02.580 yeah so you get the idea you get the idea that like what like so far with these convoys that
00:34:10.540 are now running around i guess one of them is trying to get people to to come walk to
00:34:14.560 uh the parliament hill in ottawa um unfortunately there's clips online of people who are connected
00:34:22.560 by a couple degrees of separation uh to these protest movements and it sounds like weird
00:34:29.020 illegal activity or weird, stupid plans. So what's the outcome we've had from these convoys? Okay.
00:34:34.620 We've had potentially incriminating conversations surrounding this convoy, which in turn, the fruit
00:34:42.180 is okay. Now the government has more to work with in terms of criminalizing anybody associated with
00:34:48.800 the trucker convoy. And I made a second video about this, but I'll just summarize it here. I
00:34:53.780 won't play it again play another one but um essentially it was actually jason levine somebody
00:34:58.940 who has been an independent journalist who has been following closely the coots four 0.91
00:35:02.940 following the trial and he says like guys worst case scenario these convoys are going to jeopardize
00:35:11.560 the trial of the coots four you know before they even really get a chance to have a fair trial
00:35:18.720 because it comes down to the jury and if the jury is influenced by the media popularizing all this
00:35:25.920 weird shit that's going on or is associated with these convoys that could totally screw them over 0.77
00:35:31.040 that could totally sway the jury member one way or another and as my tweet said earlier in the show
00:35:37.340 isn't it interesting that these convoys the fruit that they've bared so far are the literally the
00:35:42.460 two smears the two main smears that came to us on 2022 which is they're trying to over the floor
00:35:47.440 the government and there's all this illegal shit going on and uh before i before i get into 0.84
00:35:53.140 wrapping up the show and like where things do need to move forward and how we can be productive
00:35:57.620 i do want to talk about the sovereign citizen types in canada for a brief moment for those
00:36:04.140 who don't know there is a number of canadians and i call them sovereign citizens types uh because
00:36:10.300 there's various theories conspiracy theories whatever you want to call it that kind of fall
00:36:15.100 into the same kind of bucket or basket, basket case, which is that, uh, Canada is actually a
00:36:21.480 corporation or we don't actually have to obey the laws because the Magna Carta or because of some
00:36:27.540 other reason, or if you, if you, because if you read something specifically about some sort of
00:36:32.280 legislation, technically we're not, we're sovereign citizens and the government has no power over us,
00:36:37.500 blah, blah, blah. And in the same category, uh, speaking of one of these recent convoys or
00:36:42.960 someone associated with one of these convoys whatever uh they're saying we can get trudeau
00:36:47.280 for treason we can somehow uh invoke something uh to get get the courts or get somebody to create
00:36:56.880 a tribunal to arrest trudeau and it's all based on like look at this pdf look at this old piece
00:37:02.160 of legislation look at this little thing and and we're gonna like shoot a missile through the the 0.93
00:37:06.180 death star the whole death star will explode this stuff is stupid this stuff is stupid and let me 0.99
00:37:12.100 tell you, speaking of the truth, even if this stuff was true, politics is about power. Okay.
00:37:20.380 Politics is about power. So even if everything that these sovereign citizen types are saying
00:37:24.820 is true, it doesn't matter. Trudeau has the power. Trudeau has the police force. And as we saw at the
00:37:30.660 trucker convoy, if he doesn't like you, he's going to make up shit and throw you in jail.
00:37:34.940 We already saw that happen. And then you might say, Greg, well, what do you mean? Should we just
00:37:39.020 give up? No, it shouldn't give up. We need to realize that it's power in numbers. Okay. It's
00:37:44.580 the power in numbers of bringing people into the fold. That's why the convoy worked because there
00:37:49.100 were so many people. And, you know, if we have this small group of people saying that we can
00:37:53.360 arrest Trudeau based on this little like fine print on some like old piece of legislation,
00:37:57.460 no, you just, you just look crazy. You don't have the numbers. It's not a simple message either,
00:38:03.220 right? Like, like no one's getting behind this because it's not a simple message.
00:38:06.760 like i i remember this like years ago actually the example is norman traversy
00:38:12.440 in july 2020 there was a protest july 1st canada day it was like the ant it was an anti uh lockdown
00:38:20.140 type protest a lot of great people there uh you know arjur pavlowski was there uh mark friesen
00:38:26.440 was there tyler russell was there a lot of a lot of great people were there uh chris semchuk was
00:38:31.100 there, gave a great speech as well. Shout out to veteran Chris Semchuk. And Norman Traversy was
00:38:38.580 there. And he gave this speech and basically said, it was very QAnon. It was very much like QAnon
00:38:43.320 saying, hey, we're going to arrest Trudeau. I have the papers. I have the PDF. I have the papers
00:38:48.160 right here. I'm going to go arrest Trudeau. And of course, that didn't happen. He put some papers
00:38:54.580 through a mail slot or they were received.
00:38:58.900 This guy, Norman Traversy raised $140,000.
00:39:04.300 Norman Traversy raised $140,000
00:39:07.060 because he told people that he was going to arrest Trudeau.
00:39:09.960 Nothing fucking happened, okay?
00:39:12.320 So that was a huge waste of time and energy and money.
00:39:15.820 And it was based upon
00:39:17.320 one of these sovereign citizen type arguments, okay?
00:39:21.360 So anytime that there's someone online
00:39:24.000 saying that there's some angle that we can work to just make all of our troubles go away and make
00:39:29.280 trudeau get arrested it's bullshit just don't believe it don't don't buy into it and again
00:39:36.320 even if it is true it your plan is just not going to work you know your plan is just not going to
00:39:42.200 work because there's not going to be enough people on board and what i do say to these people if
00:39:46.220 you're so adamant that this is true if you become a member of parliament or if you become even like
00:39:53.600 part of the municipal government any amount of political power then maybe bringing these things
00:39:58.800 forth would actually have a little bit of like cachet and a little bit of value to them but if
00:40:03.440 you're just some random person who is like out there on the internet talking about these theories
00:40:08.920 and and you know you only have like 200 friends on facebook no offense but like you're it's not
00:40:13.780 going to create any sort of momentum it's not going to create any sort of movement to change
00:40:18.660 anything and uh so i just think a lot of the sovereign citizen stuff is really misled it's
00:40:24.940 focused on like a like a bunch of little details and um it's never going to catch any steam it's
00:40:30.080 never going to catch any steam they get all the easy things that you could use to get people
00:40:34.360 excited mass migration what's happening at the national citizens inquiry all that like that's
00:40:41.040 summarizing all the horrible receipts and all the horrible things we saw during covid
00:40:44.400 like there's so many examples to get people more engaged in politics and speaking of that
00:40:51.520 we'll get to wrapping up the show which is like what's going to happen next what what what so
00:40:55.220 greg okay greg you're so negative what do we focus on moving forward and i've been actually
00:41:03.180 saying this since since the convoy and that is essentially we do need to get professional
00:41:08.840 We do need to get organized.
00:41:11.920 We need to start creating groups and organizations.
00:41:18.080 And we need to do white-collar work.
00:41:20.820 We need to do boring work.
00:41:22.780 We need to do actual work that you would pay people to do.
00:41:26.580 And the money is there.
00:41:28.420 The money is definitely there.
00:41:29.620 What was it?
00:41:30.360 Tens of millions that was donated to the trucker convoy?
00:41:33.440 There's obviously a financial incentive
00:41:35.300 that is completely coming from outside of the establishment to make change.
00:41:41.240 And I mean, that's like a really good summary, right?
00:41:44.320 Like, you know, what's going to be more effective?
00:41:46.460 Getting a whole bunch of people running around with signs with not really a clear message
00:41:50.780 or maybe creating an organization who's all about focusing on protecting kids from these vaccines.
00:41:56.800 You have a professional website.
00:41:58.380 You have a small board of people.
00:42:00.380 you start to have a sort of like actionable plan where you're putting pressure on specific
00:42:06.680 politicians or specific groups or specific you know the college of physicians or what have you
00:42:11.860 you know creating professional messaging that's easy to consume and you're just focusing your
00:42:16.080 laser focusing in on that one topic that could really make a change slowly but surely there's
00:42:21.320 a lot of other great examples national citizens inquiry is probably the most outstanding one since
00:42:26.800 the convoy this was a very professional oh my god i don't even know how many cities they stopped at
00:42:32.880 they interviewed hundreds of people professionals uh former journalists like mainstream media
00:42:39.120 journalists uh doctors uh and bombers you name it all of the receipts collected about the convoy and
00:42:48.380 and it's professional and it looks good and the fruits of that are a lot of very very valuable
00:42:55.900 clips, a lot of very, very valuable, um, accounts and testimonies from people. And these can be
00:43:02.800 used. These receipts can definitely be used to put, apply pressure on, uh, politicians or to
00:43:10.760 be shared with other Canadians to show them, Hey, this is what happened during the convoy.
00:43:15.280 And that's to, to what makes the useful protest movement. I would say that is one of the best
00:43:23.140 things that we can hope for, which is good clips, good content, good organization that
00:43:31.440 look like that wins the optics war. Okay. 1 million March for children is a good example.
00:43:36.680 And you know, another good sign of that you're being effective in the political world,
00:43:41.340 Justin Trudeau calls you racist or Justin Trudeau calls you a homophobe. And that's what happened
00:43:45.580 with the million March for children that happened last month. I think it was September 20th.
00:43:50.440 they got a tweet from Justin Trudeau saying, Hey, Hey, we condemn the homophobia that we're
00:43:55.480 seeing. That's a sign that it's being effective. That's a sign that it's reaching people. If
00:43:59.180 they're trying to, if they're trying to smear you, that is a sign that you're doing something
00:44:03.300 correct. And like I said earlier, Million March for Children, they're focusing on one thing,
00:44:08.520 gender indoctrination, the gender indoctrination for kids. They're focusing in on the laser, 0.88
00:44:13.000 focusing in on that one thing, and they are being effective on that front.
00:44:17.520 And that is. Yeah, I guess I'll bring it back to my notes just to summarize, but it's like, you know, being focused, being focused and having one singular goal for your for your protest movement is is is really important.
00:44:34.940 Looking professional and approachable, being easy to engage with, because at the end of the day, you know what the future looks like for the freedom movement.
00:44:43.400 we know what's going on we all know what's going on we all know that the we saw the authoritarian
00:44:49.160 face of our government during the trucker convoy we get it people like us get it and i'm seeing a
00:44:54.820 lot of circle jerks i'm seeing a lot of shouting out one another in our echo chambers a lot of
00:45:00.400 just kind of like sharing the same link with one another and freaking out we need to create
00:45:04.940 organizations propaganda movements clubs whatever it is to start to get out of our echo chamber to
00:45:13.380 start to reach out of our echo chamber the desperation doesn't help you know the the urgency
00:45:20.660 is important but when we're desperate flailing around running around ottawa and parliament hill
00:45:27.140 we're not really changing anything because any everybody who agrees with those people already
00:45:31.920 agree with those people and zero people are coming into the fold zero new people are coming in and
00:45:38.840 having sympathy for what's going on and there's the clip of the guy who's you know getting getting
00:45:44.760 tased or whatever and people are saying like oh this is like a huge uh this is this huge sort of
00:45:50.400 like injustice of this of this person getting tased and uh i mean obviously it's sad to see
00:45:55.860 that it's it's sad to see somebody get tased and it's and it's unjust similar to what happened at
00:46:00.640 the trucker convoy but um it's almost all it's almost all for naught it's all for naught because
00:46:06.680 if you had a professional more professional protest and a more professional organization
00:46:12.800 and brand and an actual leader to stand up for this person and talk about how the injustice
00:46:17.580 see then then maybe we're maybe we have something there maybe there's something to actually like you
00:46:22.400 know use that terrible thing that happened to this man and actually leverage that in the eyes
00:46:28.240 of the public um because yeah i mean without it it's just some guy getting it looks like some
00:46:35.140 crazy guy getting tased on wellington street in front of the parliament buildings who does that
00:46:39.940 help it doesn't help anyone and and really like at its worst this this uh this this convoy here
00:46:50.720 if it even is a convoy i don't know what it is truck yeah 2.0 you know it it literally is the
00:46:58.760 worst kind of stereotype that the liberal media tries to levy levy against us which is we are
00:47:04.420 these backwards um you know like trailer park boys uh you know we just share we we share 0.97
00:47:13.140 memes on facebook that we haven't even fact checked and we're just all like you know scared
00:47:18.840 and disorganized and um we look like trailer trash you know and i i hate to be i hate to be
00:47:27.000 that blunt about it but um again what are the fruits what are the fruits that we've gotten
00:47:33.000 from this convoy from what I can tell what we've gotten is uh we've gotten a whole smorgasbord of
00:47:40.480 the media to work with if they ever want to make us look bad and I wouldn't be surprised if the
00:47:45.120 media slowly but surely picks up these clips if they feel like it just to kind of smear everybody
00:47:49.180 who thinks like us and this can be avoided this can be avoided this can be avoided with
00:47:54.800 more intention being more intentional with uh the protest movement or with the organization that you
00:48:02.180 want to start. There's a lot of things that we can do, um, that can be effective and it's going
00:48:09.240 to take work guys. It's going to take work. It's not, it's not just going to be, it's not just
00:48:13.840 going to be the same old sort of, um, the same old, as I said, like the desperate energy of
00:48:20.120 running out into Ottawa to try and get something done. Whoa, big super chat from Silverman and
00:48:25.140 buddy for a hundred dollars. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Anyways, guys, thanks so much
00:48:30.480 for joining me on the show tonight um yeah i think we covered a lot of ground i think we covered a
00:48:37.100 lot of ground i think the the final message here is is how important you know organization is like
00:48:43.460 we really need entrepreneurs in the freedom movement we need people who are going to grow
00:48:48.580 organizations there's someone who who i saw say no organizations aren't in it for the people and
00:48:53.860 it's like listen man if we're never going to be organized we're always going to be scattered and
00:48:59.740 it's going to be easy for the state to crush us like a bug. And that's kind of what this small
00:49:04.920 kind of flailing convoy in Ottawa looks like to me. And it's unfortunate because there's a lot we
00:49:09.720 have in common. There's a lot we can work together on, but it's going to take this sort of actually
00:49:14.800 psych. I'm not going to end it yet. Something that's a problem that the freedom movement has
00:49:19.240 is we're almost like too independent. We're like too independent. Like you can't tell me what to
00:49:24.880 do. What do you mean? This organization has a leader. Like, why can't we all be the leader?
00:49:28.740 it's like no dude there needs to be organization there needs to be some sort of leadership and
00:49:34.400 intention and uh this sort of like people it's it's it's sad people keep yelling freedom
00:49:42.400 and it's like there there isn't freedom in this country there there's degree of freedom but it's
00:49:46.880 like if you look up hate gate look up what happened to jeremy mckenzie look up what happened
00:49:52.680 to archer provlowski look what happens to morgan may getting arrested for like gas theft you know
00:49:57.680 the freedom in this country is a mere suggestion and you know walking around the street and yelling
00:50:04.000 it it's like freedom it's like what what does that even mean anymore you know we need to look
00:50:10.060 at this like the fifth general fifth generational warfare that it is and we need to be very
00:50:16.060 intentional with um with how we operate and how we try to be effective because things are bad here
00:50:22.000 things are bad and they're getting worse and the desperate flailing doesn't help we need to be
00:50:28.520 intentional we need to be organized and we need to work together and we need to be patient and we
00:50:34.520 need to kind of like bring it down a bit and look at the long term because i feel like too often
00:50:38.820 people are like looking at just like the next couple weeks or the no this is it this is the
00:50:42.280 convoy it's going to change everything and it's like no no this is going to take a long time to
00:50:46.880 overcome this because our institutions are rotten. They are rotten to the core. It's like there's
00:50:52.040 like a termite infestation that we haven't checked for in like decades. Okay. And it's going to take
00:50:57.400 a slow build, a slow building of like parallel institutions, if you will, parallel organizations
00:51:02.420 that represent our values and what we want. And along with that, it's going to be a rise of
00:51:07.380 different leaders, a rise of different leaders. I'm excited. I'm excited. I think as long as we
00:51:15.820 can you know stay out of jail and uh keep podcasting and keep our voices uh active online
00:51:22.660 and in the country i think that the patriots will win in the long run we just need to look at these
00:51:28.840 this kind of uh moment as a as a learning experience and i think it's very reflective
00:51:34.360 of canada in general there's a lot of people who have never really engaged in politics i know i
00:51:40.100 was one of those people and like we're kind of learning about how politics works and how to kind
00:51:43.580 of like operate and move and navigate it. Cause it is hard because unfortunately Canadians are 1.00
00:51:50.460 very good hearted people. I think, I think we have good hearts. I think we have good intentions
00:51:54.860 and politics is gross. Politics is ugly. Politics is, is, is weaselly and snaky. And like, I'm kind
00:52:02.160 of disgusted by myself sometimes. Like I'm talking about, Hey, like the protests are about clips and
00:52:06.380 how you can use clips, but that's, that's the truth. When Jeremy McKenzie, when Jeremy McKenzie
00:52:11.820 got debanked by Scotiabank. He had a clip of the phone call happening of the guy on Scotiabank
00:52:18.720 being like, sorry, bro, like we can't beg with you anymore. And I have no reason. It was like
00:52:22.040 this crazy phone call. And I wonder if that clip didn't exist and go viral, would anybody care?
00:52:29.580 Would anybody have even heard the story of Jeremy McKenzie getting debanked if there wasn't that
00:52:34.300 clip so i hate to sound like some jaded content creator but the content is very important like
00:52:43.260 the information optics war having that content it makes people care it overcomes that apathy
00:52:50.040 it overcomes the uh you know that that major obstacle and it gets people afraid and angry
00:52:56.360 and it activates them it actually activates them to get them moving in a direction and i think our
00:53:01.420 job as patriots, because things are going to get worse in this country, we need to have the
00:53:05.980 organization set up so we can catch those people. We can catch the normies who get politically
00:53:11.060 engaged for the first time, and we can catch them into our organization or a group or a club
00:53:15.020 to get them all moving in the right direction and say, hey, there's already a whole thing here for
00:53:19.280 you. All you got to do is just follow in line, follow us. We're organized. We're professional.
00:53:23.960 We're focused. It's easy because that's what all these, that's what the establishment does so well.
00:53:30.120 They make it so easy for Normie to just fall in line and take your booster shot, right?
00:53:35.640 So we need to start creating our own organizations to do just the same thing.
00:53:40.640 All right, I've been talking enough.
00:53:42.280 Guys, thanks so much for joining me on episode 30 of Controlled Opposition.
00:53:47.040 Has it been 30 already?
00:53:48.320 Amazing.
00:53:49.820 Thank you so much for watching.
00:53:51.160 Oh, and guys, I am doing a live musical comedy show in Toronto.
00:53:57.660 Very, very exciting.
00:53:58.680 It's October 20th, 9 p.m.
00:54:00.640 And guess what?
00:54:01.360 If you go to Eventbrite, I'll put the link right now in the chat.
00:54:06.180 If you go to Eventbrite and buy a ticket for October 20th, the first 10 people will get
00:54:12.560 one ticket for free.
00:54:13.900 So if you buy one ticket, you will get a second ticket for free.
00:54:16.960 That's for the first 10 people.
00:54:18.820 I'm going to put it in chat in just a moment here.
00:54:21.940 But aside from that, guys, it's okay to demand higher standards.
00:54:26.740 Thanks for watching.
00:54:28.680 Thank you.