00:07:06.900We're going to have a conversation all about Bill C-63.
00:07:10.660And kind of look at it from different angles.
00:07:13.920But let me just, it's going to take a second here to set it up.
00:07:16.980So just be patient with me, folks.1.00
00:07:19.020let's let's let's get Helen in here uh right now1.00
00:07:27.980and see if I remember how to do this0.96
00:07:34.620do do hi can I hear you Helen hi good to be here great amazing we can hear you
00:07:44.060technology um just gonna line you up over here i'm gonna go yeah i'm gonna go over here awesome
00:07:56.780awesome so helen thanks for uh being on the stream uh maybe like give yourself a quick
00:08:03.660introduction and tell me a little bit about uh kids first canada and sort of how you came to be
00:08:11.340part of this uh part of this organization um and how we got here um kids first parent association
00:08:20.140of canada was started in 1987 in alberta we're registered non-profit in registered in bc now
00:08:27.900and we're registered charity we're a non-sectarian non-partisan independent volunteer parent run
00:08:36.700group and our purposes are support for children's optimal well-being and support and recognition for
00:08:44.780parental care of children. I got involved when I was living with my young son in a
00:08:55.260basement suite and my upstairs neighbor's landlord had a very small daycare and I realized
00:09:03.020that because they actually had a registered daycare and i was just a regular parent they
00:09:07.500got a lot of information about stuff including public consultations that regular parents didn't
00:09:12.540get and when there was a raid on a grow up next door the rcmp came to the home and told
00:09:20.940um the mom upstairs the daycare that because she had a daycare he had to inform her
00:09:26.300that there was this grow up next door but as a regular parent you wouldn't get that information
00:09:31.100so i thought there's a bias here so there's a problem so that's fascinating so this organization
00:09:36.680is from 1987 you said uh by the way let us know if the audio is all right for everybody um
00:09:43.280for everybody who's listening um so 1987 you said this organization started
00:09:50.500has there been a history of you know parents being concerned about specifically the government
00:09:57.000uh not keeping kids safe in canada to get if you could i know there's probably a lot but maybe if
00:10:02.280you give me kind of sort of a cold notes of that what that looks like um that safety of kids hasn't
00:10:07.200been our main focus but it's been you know one of the many current concerns as you know um uh
00:10:12.820optimal well-being of children and parental care of children i mean you've got government
00:10:16.600intervening in the parent-child relationship in canada remember the residential schools let's
00:10:21.400never forget that at the school system, the mature minor consent laws and the child protection
00:10:28.960services, the daycare services. There's many ways that government interacts with the parent-child
00:10:36.880relationship. And that's where we kind of like to stand up. Awesome. So before we get into Bill C-63,
00:10:47.700I'm curious if because, you know, when it when it comes to, I guess, freedom fighters in Canada or people who are harshly critical of the government, there is obviously a massive influx of that starting with covid and lockdowns.
00:11:02.840You know, there's a whole litany of things that are I think are negative consequences specifically for children.
00:11:08.980um but tell me how that uh uh well first of all when did you have you been part of kids first
00:11:16.820Canada how long you been a part of the organization and how did things about 20 years not since the
00:11:23.160beginning but about 20 years so I've been um working on these sort of issues for sure 20 years
00:11:29.080yeah so tell me how things may be intensified or got maybe the organization got more popular
00:11:35.080uh during covid what was that like well covid was it was interesting right um
00:11:41.380i mean in some ways parents some many parents and kids actually did better because the kids
00:11:48.900were at home and relationships that have been kind of neglected and stuff were maybe strengthened
00:11:53.540in my own neighborhood i saw families walking in the local parks together which i've never seen
00:11:58.400together family four or five walking through the trails together near here um and um there definitely
00:12:04.500was a silver lining for for some people who were yeah you know but the other side of that was that
00:12:10.020this you know the online learning that i mean was just insane you have children kindergarten kids
00:12:16.260doing online kindergarten jumping up and down in bed doing online kindergarten pe that's actually
00:12:23.380happened and then other kids you know kids 10 years old spending six hours a day online it's
00:12:28.100i mean there's you know like if the government really concerns is concerned about children's
00:12:32.500well-being they wouldn't be doing most of what they're doing you would never have a child required
00:12:36.580to be online six hours a day or online kindergarten would exist but it does exist um and there's no
00:12:43.300regard for the research about children's well-being the peer-reviewed research in all these policies
00:12:48.660is oh we'll just do remote learning oh that'll solve all our problems and of course it doesn't
00:12:53.540solve any problems and creates more so um yeah the government insistence on kids being online
00:13:00.420a lot with no restrictions the government doesn't inform parents about the problems government
00:13:04.660doesn't restrict access to i mean the schools are increasingly even if you're not doing an online
00:13:11.060course uh your kids very likely to be online including maybe on a phone just to do their
00:13:16.820their french or their math or whatever it is yeah yeah um so let's get right into it then because
00:13:23.620We're kind of segueing into into how this relates to Bill C-63 and this bold claim that the government continues to care so much about children.
00:13:33.460We had a phone call several days ago, and I kind of wanted to touch on three broad brushstrokes of topics because, you know, in fighting against this bill,
00:13:44.940We need to respect the fact that these politicians are really good at what they do in terms of lying, misleading, deliberately misleading the public with what their stated goals are for this legislation, specifically Bill C-63.
00:14:00.780And the Trojan horse is we're protecting kids, protecting kids online from online harms, from bullying, all these things.
00:14:07.860and so i wanted to get into that but the three broad brush strokes that we kind of talked about
00:14:12.680earlier was in general there really is not a popular conversation about these devices in
00:14:21.600kids hands and there's no sort of controls whatsoever or sort of advice you know whenever
00:14:27.280i talk to a parent or teacher i always ask them do you have any rules around using these devices
00:14:33.780And it's always quite, I find it a little bit creepy when they don't have any rules at all.
00:14:40.180And I tell them, well, I'm addicted to my cell phone and I'm a grown man.
00:14:47.500So that kind of topic of how there's just a total lack of conversation around, you know, being conscious of giving these kids these addictive devices.
00:14:56.740uh and then number two and this is a very interesting one which you already alluded to
00:15:02.020that there's a trend of schools or uh teachers kind of going around parents when it comes to
00:15:10.400the privacy of kids this obviously gets into the uh you know the transgender uh education
00:15:16.320indoctrination and then finally the third related point is canadian institutions are quite obviously
00:15:24.020guilty of sexualizing children more and more uh and this is one of the stated goals of bill c63
00:15:29.980is is to prevent uh you know sexual exploitation of children uh meanwhile our public broadcaster
00:15:36.540cbc has aired programs such as cbc drag kids that's just one example but uh broadly those
00:15:44.060are kind of the three topics i think i think we'll i think we'll touch upon um is there anything
00:15:50.000that you want to want to jump jump into right now helen that to start i know it's a lot but um
00:15:55.020well i mean the devices like the restrictions on devices for example um i can i'm more tuned
00:16:01.660into what's going on in bc but i'm aware of other provinces too like our our premier david eb here
00:16:08.060in bc in february uh said that they were going to look the people sort of got the impression
00:16:16.620that they were going to ban cell phones in schools but that wasn't actually what he said
00:16:21.180they were the government's going to require the school districts to have a policy about cell
00:16:26.660phones the policy could be do whatever you want it's up to the teacher total ban or whatever so
00:16:33.060as a parent or a kid going into school you have no idea what that's going to be and you can't
00:16:41.440control it and you can't um find out ahead of time really i mean they'll have a policy like a district
00:16:46.300might have a different policy than another district but there's no total ban on cell phones
00:16:51.200in school for sure there's some kind of restrictions there's something about going on
00:16:56.780like this in Ontario Quebec but I'm not I don't know the details of that but he also announced
00:17:01.480that they were going to the BC government is going to go after I think the social media companies
00:17:06.000for their harms just like they went after the tobacco companies but I mean the government has
00:17:11.240in its power right now and always has had the power to for example label devices um just like
00:17:17.880we label cigarettes you know um that's been requested or suggested numerous times or to just
00:17:25.620reduce the you know that they to have a policy that you you can't just use your phones and devices
00:17:30.360and laptops and all the rest of it constantly in the classroom that remote i mean like really you
00:17:34.440can take literally can take kindergarten online you can take woodwork online you can take every
00:17:38.600single course you can think of in bc online and if you actually are going to school in person you
00:17:44.680might be given a lot of online uh work like you're in your french class and you're required to use
00:17:50.360your cell phone to access them to do the material to do the course this is and parents children
00:17:57.560students have no way of knowing what the teacher's going to require the school's going to require
00:18:01.800so it's a total free-for-all and there's no regard whatsoever for the peer-reviewed
00:18:06.760findings that show that this is all bad for kids it's bad for their mental health bad for their
00:18:10.680physical health bad for their emotional bad for everything and it's a very suboptimal way to learn
00:18:15.160for anybody so but they just pursue it and they don't use the power that they have so when they
00:18:20.280say they're concerned about kids well then why why even put a just even a public information
00:18:24.920campaign campaign out there on buses or leaflets or whatever saying that you know the it's not
00:18:30.120recommended for toddlers to be online at all on any kind of screen at all i mean i take the bus
00:18:35.640and i literally see babies the parent gives the baby a cell phone and the little baby's eyes are
00:18:43.080glued onto that thing and it's like i mean i've talked to the parents you know as much empathy
00:18:49.080as i have like that you're damaging your child and guess what they will put it away but they
00:18:53.720you know their needs government could provide at least information or restrictions or something
00:18:58.680they're not doing anything so when they say they care about kids it's like no you don't i mean
00:19:03.800good for you you speak up on the bus and you say hey you know that's really bad for your kid right
00:19:07.960you do that i mean i yeah i've done that because i just i'm just it just grieves me just and i i
00:19:13.160care about the parent i care about the kid and just have a you know not do it gently it's easier
00:19:18.600for a woman to do this you know i'm kind of motherly or whatever so they don't get offended0.65
00:19:22.120and and um but it's it's it's like if i saw a child you know taking cocaine on the bus the
00:19:28.760the parent was giving him cocaine, I might say something too. But I mean, there's a role for
00:19:33.720government in regulating the corporate corporations selling crap to us that is damaging. Like we
00:19:41.720regulate certain products. And it's like, this is an addictive product. I mean, we know that
00:19:46.460children's well-being in Canada is plummeting in mental health, academics, physical health,
00:19:52.640well-being uh it's it's it's it's not going well for the kids the kids are not all right and
00:19:58.840government has i believe a role to protect kids and they're not i mean the stuff that they say
00:20:04.660i mean i know this that they don't care about kids well-being because working on daycare issues for
00:20:08.58020 years where all the peer-reviewed research says this is a bad idea this is not good for kids
00:20:14.180well-being um and they just they say the federal government says uh that this is the best start in
00:20:21.180life the very best start in life for children um like that's what they say who's saying that
00:20:27.040the federal government look yeah the federal government um trudeau very this the best start
00:20:32.020in life it's like they actually it's in writing it's it says that in their stuff and that the
00:20:35.500policies are designed to be their high quality where all the research shows that they're inadequate
00:20:40.540low mediocre quality so they're just flat out lying and when you're talking about little children
00:20:45.260like when you hurt a little kid or damage their well-being in some way that's not just sort of a
00:20:49.960short-term thing like they hurt their knee it's you're you're damaging their the systems that are
00:20:55.880building in their their brain their neurons their their their immunity like everything and so you're
00:21:01.080creating damaged adults so we when we follow these these policies like in quebec it's 1997 they
00:21:07.100started their daycare policy they have increased youth crime this is the the best economists in
00:21:12.960canada this is their peer-reviewed research and we you know we're like if we cared about kids we
00:21:20.920would follow at least the best research and we'd also respect um you know parents rights to raise
00:21:26.140their children you know without the government um actively coercing us financially or socially
00:21:32.220i mean when the government keeps telling you keeps telling you like it's been over 20 years i've been
00:21:36.840hearing it's high quality it's good for your child's health well-being academics and everything
00:21:42.500and then he might start to believe that and therefore follow what they want um even though
00:21:49.120it's not true so well if the government said it then it must be true yeah they keep saying it
00:21:54.940and these these lies that you that you say they're telling about uh these programs is this
00:22:00.260specifically online learning that they say is so fantastic well online learning they i mean they
00:22:05.120i mean i'm talking about the daycare programs the online learning they just just i mean covid
00:22:10.200it massively ramped up the use of online learning, remote
00:22:13.380learning. So they kind of normalized it. And they never
00:22:18.300like, like, they just don't. They all everybody knows the
00:22:23.820quality sucks. And, and, but they don't say that I mean, and
00:22:27.480there's no, like a warning label like this is, you know, not the
00:22:30.940best, but if it's, you know, works for you kind of thing.
00:38:18.360Well, it's part of the career and personal planning,
00:38:22.080of the curriculum and also part of the um a pe which is now physical and health education they
00:38:28.960ask these questions but it could be in anything you could do an english course or something where
00:38:33.120basically an identity is a big issue like the creation like what is your identity how do you
00:38:39.520identify is like in your race or your sexuality or your uh your your religion or your beliefs or
00:38:45.440whatever like their identity construction is what the schools are very concerned about here
00:38:52.320so when you're reading a novel or a story or something it's not like what did what happened
00:38:57.360in the novel and why did that happen in the novel those why did those characters do these things or
00:39:02.080whatever it's well how do you feel about and do you relate to that and did something like that
00:39:06.080happened to you and how did you deal with it so it's it's you are the kids are the curriculum
00:39:12.560and that's it doesn't have to be about sexual stuff but the sexual stuff comes into with the
00:39:18.000sexual orientation gender identity stuff and then there's also yeah yes and then there's also um
00:39:24.240the um research you know social science research projects they do in the schools
00:39:29.600which ask all sorts of questions about your personal life it's like it's like the schools
00:39:34.160are not meant to be there for social science research the kids are not lab rats they're not
00:39:38.080like you're wasting kids time your government funds they do huge questionnaires um some of
00:39:45.540them are focused on sexual issues and stuff like that like how much do you drink how much do you
00:39:49.680did you use a condom blah blah blah all these kinds of things um and then they're moving to
00:39:53.820high school yeah they'll be in high school yeah but but the uh it sounds like a survey it sounds
00:40:00.960like a bunch of surveys asking kids what they're into what they do those surveys yeah but it's like
00:40:05.940like they do this in the schools and they don't ask if they use what they call it it's the human
00:40:12.780early learning partnership which is in based in bc but these surveys go from them to other provinces
00:40:18.300and there's other surveys as well um and there's the sexual type surveys are but they they they
00:40:25.660start them in kindergarten and they don't they use what they call passive consent which means
00:40:30.900no consent the parents are supposed to be notified about this that they can opt out if they don't
00:40:36.660want their kid to participate but they already have all the data that all the kids basic uh you
00:40:42.500know um personal education number personal health number they already have all that i mean it's like
00:40:47.780the schools are like a place where kids are just being that not just the kids but their families
00:40:51.880because the kids ask questions about their family like you know who lives in your house what language
00:40:57.560do they speak what do you eat what do you do does anybody like you at home i mean it's just
00:41:02.440it's it's really disgusting what happens in school routinely like all the time routine and what's the
00:41:08.200argument as to why this would be relevant to educating a child all the image give me give us
00:41:13.880all the information of what your your home life is like well well they they say that the information
00:41:18.920from these surveys is used to create programs to address needs but no it's actually used to just
00:41:26.760data mine the population especially in bc like uh it's it's over the top in bc we have a
00:41:33.240organization called population data bc pop data bc.c pop data bc.ca they collect and um
00:41:44.840they have all the data on all over 5 million residents of bc all your health information
00:41:51.960all your education information uh your your income information your work information they collect it
00:41:59.720and this stuff from the schools goes in there it's a key piece because it helps to
00:42:04.920collect all the data you got you got that pop data bc.ca you look on the
00:42:08.840for researchers and the data it's like it's i'm uh pop data bc.ca i'm getting a sketchy
00:42:17.000looking website that's not secure actually right now is there no that's not it no no how about
00:42:24.120um pop data maybe it's pop data.bc.ca put another dot in there sorry
00:42:31.960the organization is population data this looks yeah and go under the section for researchers
00:42:38.200where it says for researchers look under there okay and then go to uh this data available thing
00:42:45.400data available click on this yeah uh yeah and uh core versus non-core scroll down go back down
00:42:55.240uh data sets uh k to 12 socioeconomic index student assessments
00:43:05.800yeah i mean they have all your medical data like for everybody in bc
00:43:10.120uh fields available as i see interesting yeah i mean this is this is this is our problem what is
00:43:19.400population data about providing services well look at their history thing their goal is to be
00:43:26.200the world's number one um source of uh population data like that's their goal if you look in their
00:43:32.680history section at the end of the history that's what they have and and this is a this organization
00:43:38.840is a um a private it's it's a non-profit society so it's it's not the government but it's completely
00:43:46.680funded by the government yet today the very bottom area today over time most world's most
00:43:54.920comprehensive data resource on factors that influence human health well-being and development
00:44:01.560which is everything interesting interesting i kind of want to watch this video because it'll
00:44:06.920probably it's it's it's big brother um and big brother's been in our schools doing this
00:44:13.640it's not just the kids it's like everybody i've met if you straight up data and you
00:44:17.880of our society what makes some people or communities healthier than others population
00:44:23.480health researchers attempt to answer these questions by looking at an individual's social
00:44:28.520economic and physical environments when looking at the health of whole communities however
00:44:34.600researchers must examine the lives and experiences of many individuals
00:44:39.320one of the body has about you this is very creepy it's very creepy and nobody knows about it i want
00:44:45.400to i want to play a little bit more you can i think you can read the uh the subtitles i guess
00:44:50.520this is pretty small for everybody how do we make this bigger okay just give me just give me a sec
00:44:55.560here what's the difference between a regular notebook and whoops sorry sorry folks just give
00:45:02.360give us a second here we're gonna we want to give you the content so it's bigger uh i guess we'll
00:45:08.860go back over here skip okay uh i know you won't be able to hear it uh helen but we'll just well
00:45:18.260i think you should be able to see the subtitles so we'll just start from this creepy guy talking
00:45:24.680this creepy nondescript yellow person population health researchers attempt to answer these0.54
00:45:32.140questions by looking at an individual's social, economic, and physical0.97
00:45:36.700environments. When looking at the health of whole communities, however, researchers
00:45:41.700must examine the lives and experiences of many individuals. One of the best ways
00:45:46.660to do this is to use administrative data, personal information that was
00:45:51.100originally collected for another purpose. As British Columbians move through life,
00:45:55.660they generate data. When a baby is born, the birth certificate, other life
00:46:01.920experiences such as early education, career choices, hospital visits and other health
00:46:11.520related issues, getting married, birthing a child, attending college or university, and
00:46:21.120dying also produce data in the form of various records and documentation. This type of unique
00:46:27.820Information is crucial to learning about what is and isn't making us and our communities healthier.
00:46:34.920Administrative data is collected and stored by a variety of government agencies and departments, who we call Data Stewards.
00:46:42.640Because of the sensitive nature of much of this personal data, Data Stewards have policies and procedures like the Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act to keep it secure and safe.
00:46:54.900okay i've seen enough this is this is very very strange no yeah this is this is um it's it's
00:47:03.300this is what we're doing in bc we've been doing this for like close to 20 years it's been growing
00:47:08.460and it's because it's like it's it's a private organization not that's run it's it's totally
00:47:15.460funded by the government but it's not run by the government so it's not like accountable to the
00:47:20.820government so the mlas here the provincial politicians don't know about it it's not reviewed
00:47:26.120um in in uh the uh in victoria here i mean that's just one example of what's going on it's i think
00:47:34.040it's worse in bc but it's coming to a province near you or it's already there but maybe not quite
00:47:38.660as extreme as it is here i mean it's all about helping us right helping us yeah let's watch just
00:47:46.560kind of the the very end here at one change can make the whole community
00:47:53.560healthier for example based on neighborhood rates of child
00:47:58.060vulnerability British Columbia made decisions about where to pilot and now
00:48:02.940expand strong start programs around the province every individual person's
00:48:08.880experience can contribute to valuable research which may then lead to policy
00:48:13.840change that benefits everyone everyone contributes everyone benefits
00:48:22.320this is so creepy um because it's to me my interpretation is hey you don't need privacy
00:48:29.840anymore just give away all of your data and you will make society better it's beneficial for
00:48:36.240everyone it's very good it's very good yeah well and i mean this that's one aspect those are like
00:48:42.000the surveys done by the social science researchers that they collect this stuff and they mine it they
00:48:49.520collect it and they sell it um but then there's also just this routine violation of you know like
00:48:55.360i'm not going to ask you about your household or your personal life because i'm just not that close
00:49:00.240to you and we're on this you know but it's normal in schools to do that kids are asked to just
00:49:04.240talk about themselves and their family members in in ways that like i mean this person came a
00:49:10.160stranger came up to you on the street and did that you would know that that's weird like why do
00:49:14.560you why are you asking what i ate last week but they're being in culture they're being like you
00:49:18.960know that inculturated into a a habit of just you know give your information talk to you about your
00:49:25.520personal information to authorities without question and put it up online too usually
00:49:31.120or make a poster and put it up on the wall at school about who's in your family like what if
00:49:35.360if the child's you know dad died what if there's a kind of weird situation going on and they don't
00:49:40.820want to put it on like there's no concern it's anything it's so interesting because it's the
00:49:45.820complete opposite of what we were taught when we first had access to the internet which is like
00:49:51.700don't give out your information don't give out your information online but but apparently it's
00:49:56.240oh if it's the school you know you share as much as you'd like and aside from the whole you know
00:50:01.600government uh you know subject or government sort of student or government young person relationship
00:50:07.200this is just a very bad lesson in relationships period you know it's essentially encouraging
00:50:13.020don't have don't have boundaries uh just you know if someone asks you a question answer it just just
00:50:19.920give away you know don't have any sort of wire i mean it's required you have to really like really
00:50:24.520fight to say no like i told my if they ask you this tell them no tell them your mom won't let
00:50:29.840you you know um it doesn't win you any friends at school or the teachers don't like it when you
00:50:34.420tell them no i'm not doing that assignment no i'm not telling you what i ate no i'm not telling you
00:50:37.980what i did i mean and and like then if you you alluded to this earlier and it totally uh matches
00:50:45.680what you were saying which is you know ibm is going to show up at the school to prey upon kids
00:50:51.560like hey look at our machines like look at our brand let's get the kids hooked on this technology
00:50:56.340soon yeah but for those who don't know uh very very smart economists for years now have been
00:51:02.280saying the new gold is data the new the new gold that you mine is data and it looks like this
00:51:09.140organization pop data.bc has kind of found a way around um or i guess a very creative official
00:51:18.180over the table way of mining that data through schools because it's not just through schools
00:51:23.460but yeah schools are a key part of it yeah yeah um and like what happens with that data who knows
00:51:30.160but i do want to kind of take this conversation to a dark uh dark place and tie it back to bill c63
00:51:37.080um i i came up with this it was kind of like as a joke but the more and more as as you know
00:51:44.400the dystopian continues i i do feel like it's a relevant sort of like uh angle to look at things
00:51:49.260and that is called the pedophile rule and the pedophile rule is if you are pushing for a thing
00:51:57.020or excited about a thing that specifically a pedophile would like or get excited about
00:52:03.800then you should actually not push for that thing you should actually be very questionable
00:52:08.080uh towards that that behavior or that policy or that idea and in my opinion this this follows this
00:52:14.820fails the pedophile rule this is something that a pedophile specifically would actually be very
00:52:18.420excited about it's like oh oh all the information that a young vulnerable person has oh you don't
00:52:22.860have a good relationship at home oh oh oh you're interested in this maybe i can like look look you
00:52:28.800up on some chat room or something yeah or what do you like to do after school what are your
00:52:33.100after school activities you go to the park the library you hang out you do only it's like
00:52:37.260and and it's it but it's just training kids to divulge their information to total strangers
00:52:43.360as a routine reflex habit from kindergarten on but you know you mentioned boundaries well actually
00:52:49.940boundaries and consent is also in the curriculum in bc from k to 12 in the physical and health
00:52:56.740education component they're supposed to learn to say for example in kindergarten no i don't like
00:53:03.660that or but but that's supposed to be a lesson that's traditionally but they're but they're
00:53:08.900actually violating the boundaries of the kids all the time like no i don't want to go to school no
00:53:14.720i'm not answering that question no actually i'd rather be at home but my mom can't afford to you
00:53:18.600know it's like to have me you know it's like there's there's no this is manipulation of the
00:53:23.500concept of consent like because it's really big you gotta do consent all the time but you're well
00:53:28.820the kids don't even consent to going to school let alone having a particular teacher or what
00:53:33.080they're being taught i mean i'm not saying that they should be able to consent to all that but
00:53:36.200it's it's you're you're this pretense that school is the safe place the teachers anybody if you're
00:53:42.740a teacher you're safe if you're a parent you know you're probably going to abuse your kid right so
00:53:46.600there's this assumption that school is safe government is safe social workers are safe
00:53:50.040child protection services are safe like come on man i mean like we weren't born yesterday but
00:53:56.280you touch on a very uh interesting trend how how long would you say that trend has been
00:54:03.180going on for or would you say goes back to the 1800s that being that uh you know the parents
00:54:08.680can't be trusted but the uh the canadian institutions and the government and and these
00:54:13.560government funded teachers can be trusted yeah well i would say it does go back to there i mean
00:54:19.080it was the uh edgerton ryerson whose ryerson university was named after him he wrote two
00:54:25.300reports in 1847 1848 one established the uh compulsory at school attendance laws and the
00:54:33.280other one established the uh residential schools and he was doing he was a very devout christian
00:54:38.300he was doing it you know i he had good intentions like the road to hell is being paved there right
00:54:43.220but and and you know i'm not saying everything that happened was bad because it's not but um
00:54:47.920but this he didn't trust the parent-child relationship he said we've got to have these
00:54:52.940certified people because they're going to do a better job they're you know this this trust in
00:54:57.780certification and and institutions but i mean it hasn't panned out i mean obviously all parents
00:55:04.380are flawed and some of them are very very flawed but an institution that's flawed causes way more
00:55:09.400damage and like why can't we trust what what is it about parents that you don't like you know is
00:55:15.160it it's because a prejudice against the parents is like a prejudice against somebody because of
00:55:20.400their color or their religion or where they came from it's exactly the same in the human rights
00:55:24.700law it's this discrimination based on your family status and that's not okay so yeah yeah uh i do
00:55:32.520want to quickly reference uh an email i got from somebody they they sent an email to the i think it
00:55:38.540was a safe free speech email uh and they're really worried that they say i personally feel like this
00:55:43.980is a bill that will hurt children as opposed to helping them this is regards to bill c63 there
00:55:48.560There are evil layers to this bill that involve so much more control and abuse from these psychopaths.
00:55:53.420I think a way to show how this bill will harm children is to dig into how the country protects pedophiles.
00:55:58.500Get into the National Sex Offense Registry list and how it was public and is now private.
00:56:04.880I can see private for some offenses perhaps, but never private for crimes against children.
00:56:10.080You know, this is all new information to me.
00:56:12.840I haven't looked into this yet, but I think that, you know, in the spirit of actually protecting kids,
00:56:18.560that this is something that we need to pay attention to.
00:56:21.980You know, I could bring up the things that have been mentioned before
00:56:24.700of, you know, Justin Trudeau next to this liberal guy
00:56:28.260or this friend who is, you know, guilty of child pornography or et cetera,
00:56:32.360but it looks like it is more deeper than that
00:56:35.340in that, you know, these so-called great policies
01:10:59.220I mean, the teacher's not, they're never held accountable.
01:11:04.220held accountable i mean right you know social workers they're not they're not held accountable
01:11:10.700i mean unless a teacher actually you know bashes a kid on the head or something they're not
01:11:15.020accused of any crime they're like exempt from liability yeah yeah so let's let's talk and we
01:11:22.300we need to cover a couple more topics before we before we wrap this up so let's let's keep it
01:11:26.620moving here uh you have the time do you okay awesome um so let's talk about sexual exploitation
01:11:34.780of children um because you know we kind of alluded to the education and kind of just specifically
01:11:40.220we're focusing on the relationship between teachers uh and students and how this it's
01:11:44.380kind of muddying the waters in terms of what is private what should be kept from um parents
01:11:48.860um but you know could you like if you had a parent in front of you and they were kind of
01:11:58.400off in la la land they don't think anything is wrong and uh and you told them no like they're
01:12:05.520they're they are sort of exposing kids to more sexual material at younger ages
01:12:11.520they said no i don't believe you that's that's that's not happening i don't believe you
01:12:16.000What would you tell a parent like that who didn't believe that that was happening?
01:12:20.280Well, it would depend on, I mean, here in BC, teachers have something called professional autonomy, which allows them to determine how they're going to teach the curriculum and what resources they're going to bring in.
01:12:34.460Resources means books, articles, videos, websites, assignments, anything.
01:12:40.080so the way the laws have evolved or the policies evolved in bc teachers who are activists have
01:12:47.760carte blanche to bring in whatever they want i mean i'm slightly exaggerating but not very much
01:12:52.920so that's what's happening plus they've also pre-approved a bunch of materials that's a soji
01:12:58.380123 resource list that has a lot of that many people would consider much of it inappropriate or
01:13:06.140against their beliefs or unhealthy or whatever um and so because as a parent you you you have you
01:13:14.680have no way of knowing when you put your child in school what they're going to be taught how it's
01:13:18.940going to be taught who's going to do it or when there's no way to know because it's in bc the
01:13:23.880curriculum is so loose and the teachers have so much autonomy to interpret it and they can bring
01:13:29.540in whatever they want it's it's i mean you might have no problem whatsoever but i mean it's not
01:13:35.660a teacher it's also the whole school like the principal or the whatever whoever puts up all the
01:13:39.660the pride flags and all the other stuff and the posters and the stuff on the walls the displays
01:13:44.380and all that i mean parents you know like sneak parents telling me you know they don't have seek
01:13:49.900flags they got all these pride flags all over his kids grade two to class in in surrey which is a
01:13:55.500lot of seeks live in surrey um so this they don't know what to do about it they get offended
01:14:02.220sometimes they quit school sometimes they argue or they go as they go to a private school or they
01:14:06.080but most people you know that's not an option you know and um financially and they've been told go
01:14:13.300to go to a you know a christian school go to a private school you know but it's like that's just
01:14:17.600you're not allowed to say that because those public schools are for everybody they are legally
01:14:21.720required to include everybody everybody's supposed to be welcome and recognized and treated with
01:14:26.760respect regardless of their religion or their belief or their color or their sexuality or
01:14:30.540anything which is pretty hard to do um i mean really it's so diverse how do you accommodate
01:14:36.500everybody well you run into problems because you have more conservative minded people who their
01:14:42.840beliefs are that you know transgender isn't isn't even real it's it's it's like it's an abomination
01:14:47.940so yeah but you also have to accommodate people who thinks transgenderism is a totally valid thing
01:14:52.980and obviously you're going to run into conflict there yeah so i think they should accommodate all
01:14:57.200think the public system you know the publicly funded learning system should accommodate all
01:15:01.600and the way to do that is to one option is to have the parents get the full funding
01:15:07.840as an option you know if you're happy at the school that's fine but if but if you want to
01:15:12.400kind of like you know make your own education up for your kid you could hire tutors put them in
01:15:16.560this school or for that thing or do your own learning or or i mean there's a lot of educational
01:15:20.880materials and stuff where i live um there's a two music schools there's four martial arts studios
01:15:26.720there's a math school there's another math there's there's tons of stuff in not for everybody but
01:15:32.080there's a lot of resources around you don't need to go to school to get an education or you could
01:15:36.960go to school or mix it up a bit but if the parents had was there an option to have the full funding
01:15:41.680which is it's something like ten thousand or more dollars per year depending on where you are and
01:15:45.920all the rest of it uh per kid that they could have that as an option and and they can you know
01:15:52.000Right now, the state is supposed to be neutral.
01:15:57.800It's not regarding beliefs and morality and religion.
01:16:00.500The state, which includes the schools, is supposed to be neutral.0.99
01:16:03.780So they're not allowed to advance Christianity, which they used to do,0.59
01:16:07.880and they're not allowed to advance any other moral philosophy or belief system.0.70
01:57:23.460Needing healthy, loving guardians with someone suffering bullying in Amanda's case reminded me of Derek mentioning duplessis orphans, healthy Canadian children deemed mentally ill.
02:13:11.240it makes sense that this is coming out when everyone is critical of leaders for just sending
02:13:16.140so much money to ukraine right you know people are being critical of sending all like billions
02:13:21.480of dollars to ukraine and people are complaining about it as they should and now nato is like we
02:13:27.360need to stop disinformation nato's enduring purpose could weaken solidarity and cohesion
02:13:34.200oh okay sorry that's from the previous thing right 219 yeah 289 so let's do that whole
02:13:44.120sentence together at the operational level disinformation could increasingly probe and
02:13:48.360erode nato's defense and deference at the at the strategic level long-term information operations
02:13:54.420and narratives skeptical of nato's enduring purpose could weaken solidarity and cohesion
02:14:00.860To protect its political center of gravity, NATO should crystallize where disinformation fits among the multiplicity of threats likely facing the alliance in the emergent security environment, and then further evolve its approach to countering disinformation.
02:29:21.860Anti-NATO narratives and conspiracies are an important tool in the arsenal of digital manipulation campaigns undertaken by pro-Kremlin groups.
02:46:10.880so there you go but hey that was uh i apologize if i was kind of low energy tonight you know i
02:46:17.220was i was doing all sorts of stuff uh to try and um you know we updated the website actually let's
02:46:24.500show this off for a sec it's um there's still a lot of updates coming but you know we are getting
02:46:31.140there folks we're making things look better this is the new home page for savefreespeech.ca
02:46:36.620you can see the little donate button in the corner there very cute right that goes to the
02:46:43.720the give send go page amazing and yeah while we're at the give send go page if you want to
02:46:48.820support our upcoming documentary big big things we're going to tell the story we're going to tell
02:46:55.800the story of what this bill is actually about and why it would be the end of free speech in canada
02:47:00.220and why uh yeah we're going to raise the alarm bells and tell show canada what's really going on
02:47:06.120here but um yeah this is the new updated site lots coming there's gonna be a couple a couple
02:47:14.060other sections over here coming we do have our social medias on the join us page this this page
02:47:20.580still needs a lot of work though i'm not gonna lie i'm not gonna lie oh oh i'm doxing my uh my
02:47:28.400WordPress whoops um but uh yeah you know what let's let's let's end it off with uh promoting
02:47:37.380this this thing as well which is very very much related I've if you've been following along I've
02:47:42.860been uh I've been covering um you know the many different sort of how can we how can we tell
02:47:52.880people what's going on with bill c63 how can we explain the urgency to people if they don't know
02:48:00.220that political prisoners are a regular thing in this country you know if i if i go to if i go to
02:48:06.320like an average normie and say hey like this government or this uh this bill c63 is going to
02:48:11.480uh it's going to be used for political purposes to censor people the government doesn't like
02:48:17.440you know people might look at me sideways like i have five heads like what do you what do you mean
02:48:21.680like when did when has that ever happened when has that ever happened and that's why i'm sending
02:48:28.400out a call to freedom fighters or to political prisoners uh you know i i sent out this video
02:48:36.620today which uh which kind of explains it hey canada if you have been slandered by the mainstream
02:48:48.140media or by anti-hate. I want to hear from you. You see, a lot of people in Canada don't know
02:48:54.740that people are persecuted for their political opinions, and that's a very disturbing trend. So
02:49:00.180we want to hear and document your story, collect as many as possible to tell the greater Canadian
02:49:05.160public that this is going on. So if you're a doctor or nurse who was persecuted during COVID,
02:49:10.640If you're a freedom fighter activist who got arrested, if you're a mom or parent who was pushing and speaking up against the transgender ideology in schools, we want to hear from you.
02:49:23.360There's a very simple form below here on Twitter or X, and I know that I may have spoken to some of you already before, but still, we want to kind of make sure we're not missing anybody.
02:49:32.440And you can fill out that form and send it to info at savefreespeech.ca.
02:49:38.000This will help us tell the rest of the country what's really going on in Canada.