Greg Wycliffe - 🔴Will C-63 keep kids Safe？ 🔴NATO agenda to censor Internet 🔴 #STOPBillC63 🔴 SAVE FREE SPEECH .ca

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00:06:00.000 ladies and gentlemen ladies and gentlemen welcome to the stream this evening hope you're doing well

00:06:15.980 how's everybody doing in chat here okay okay get the show on the road oh my okay carrie i'm i'm

00:06:25.020 i'm working on it okay thank you catherine grant howdy hello kev uh let's turn that right down

00:06:35.340 so the question will bill c63 actually protect children you know i don't have any children

00:06:42.380 myself but you know i've been trying to poke as many holes as possible in this thing and um

00:06:49.020 I actually ran into someone in a Freedom Fighters or Freedom Leaders group

00:06:53.400 who is actually a part of an amazing organization called Kids First.

00:06:59.760 Kids First Canada, a parent association of Canada.

00:07:03.960 And she is joining with me.

00:07:05.300 She's joined with me right now.

00:07:06.900 We're going to have a conversation all about Bill C-63.

00:07:10.660 And kind of look at it from different angles.

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00:07:19.020 let's let's let's get Helen in here uh right now 1.00

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00:07:34.620 do do hi can I hear you Helen hi good to be here great amazing we can hear you

00:07:44.060 technology um just gonna line you up over here i'm gonna go yeah i'm gonna go over here awesome

00:07:56.780 awesome so helen thanks for uh being on the stream uh maybe like give yourself a quick

00:08:03.660 introduction and tell me a little bit about uh kids first canada and sort of how you came to be

00:08:11.340 part of this uh part of this organization um and how we got here um kids first parent association

00:08:20.140 of canada was started in 1987 in alberta we're registered non-profit in registered in bc now

00:08:27.900 and we're registered charity we're a non-sectarian non-partisan independent volunteer parent run

00:08:36.700 group and our purposes are support for children's optimal well-being and support and recognition for

00:08:44.780 parental care of children. I got involved when I was living with my young son in a

00:08:55.260 basement suite and my upstairs neighbor's landlord had a very small daycare and I realized

00:09:03.020 that because they actually had a registered daycare and i was just a regular parent they

00:09:07.500 got a lot of information about stuff including public consultations that regular parents didn't

00:09:12.540 get and when there was a raid on a grow up next door the rcmp came to the home and told

00:09:20.940 um the mom upstairs the daycare that because she had a daycare he had to inform her

00:09:26.300 that there was this grow up next door but as a regular parent you wouldn't get that information

00:09:31.100 so i thought there's a bias here so there's a problem so that's fascinating so this organization

00:09:36.680 is from 1987 you said uh by the way let us know if the audio is all right for everybody um

00:09:43.280 for everybody who's listening um so 1987 you said this organization started

00:09:50.500 has there been a history of you know parents being concerned about specifically the government

00:09:57.000 uh not keeping kids safe in canada to get if you could i know there's probably a lot but maybe if

00:10:02.280 you give me kind of sort of a cold notes of that what that looks like um that safety of kids hasn't

00:10:07.200 been our main focus but it's been you know one of the many current concerns as you know um uh

00:10:12.820 optimal well-being of children and parental care of children i mean you've got government

00:10:16.600 intervening in the parent-child relationship in canada remember the residential schools let's

00:10:21.400 never forget that at the school system, the mature minor consent laws and the child protection

00:10:28.960 services, the daycare services. There's many ways that government interacts with the parent-child

00:10:36.880 relationship. And that's where we kind of like to stand up. Awesome. So before we get into Bill C-63,

00:10:47.700 I'm curious if because, you know, when it when it comes to, I guess, freedom fighters in Canada or people who are harshly critical of the government, there is obviously a massive influx of that starting with covid and lockdowns.

00:11:02.840 You know, there's a whole litany of things that are I think are negative consequences specifically for children.

00:11:08.980 um but tell me how that uh uh well first of all when did you have you been part of kids first

00:11:16.820 Canada how long you been a part of the organization and how did things about 20 years not since the

00:11:23.160 beginning but about 20 years so I've been um working on these sort of issues for sure 20 years

00:11:29.080 yeah so tell me how things may be intensified or got maybe the organization got more popular

00:11:35.080 uh during covid what was that like well covid was it was interesting right um

00:11:41.380 i mean in some ways parents some many parents and kids actually did better because the kids

00:11:48.900 were at home and relationships that have been kind of neglected and stuff were maybe strengthened

00:11:53.540 in my own neighborhood i saw families walking in the local parks together which i've never seen

00:11:58.400 together family four or five walking through the trails together near here um and um there definitely

00:12:04.500 was a silver lining for for some people who were yeah you know but the other side of that was that

00:12:10.020 this you know the online learning that i mean was just insane you have children kindergarten kids

00:12:16.260 doing online kindergarten jumping up and down in bed doing online kindergarten pe that's actually

00:12:23.380 happened and then other kids you know kids 10 years old spending six hours a day online it's

00:12:28.100 i mean there's you know like if the government really concerns is concerned about children's

00:12:32.500 well-being they wouldn't be doing most of what they're doing you would never have a child required

00:12:36.580 to be online six hours a day or online kindergarten would exist but it does exist um and there's no

00:12:43.300 regard for the research about children's well-being the peer-reviewed research in all these policies

00:12:48.660 is oh we'll just do remote learning oh that'll solve all our problems and of course it doesn't

00:12:53.540 solve any problems and creates more so um yeah the government insistence on kids being online

00:13:00.420 a lot with no restrictions the government doesn't inform parents about the problems government

00:13:04.660 doesn't restrict access to i mean the schools are increasingly even if you're not doing an online

00:13:11.060 course uh your kids very likely to be online including maybe on a phone just to do their

00:13:16.820 their french or their math or whatever it is yeah yeah um so let's get right into it then because

00:13:23.620 We're kind of segueing into into how this relates to Bill C-63 and this bold claim that the government continues to care so much about children.

00:13:33.460 We had a phone call several days ago, and I kind of wanted to touch on three broad brushstrokes of topics because, you know, in fighting against this bill,

00:13:44.940 We need to respect the fact that these politicians are really good at what they do in terms of lying, misleading, deliberately misleading the public with what their stated goals are for this legislation, specifically Bill C-63.

00:14:00.780 And the Trojan horse is we're protecting kids, protecting kids online from online harms, from bullying, all these things.

00:14:07.860 and so i wanted to get into that but the three broad brush strokes that we kind of talked about

00:14:12.680 earlier was in general there really is not a popular conversation about these devices in

00:14:21.600 kids hands and there's no sort of controls whatsoever or sort of advice you know whenever

00:14:27.280 i talk to a parent or teacher i always ask them do you have any rules around using these devices

00:14:33.780 And it's always quite, I find it a little bit creepy when they don't have any rules at all.

00:14:40.180 And I tell them, well, I'm addicted to my cell phone and I'm a grown man.

00:14:43.740 And we're giving this to kids a lot.

00:14:47.500 So that kind of topic of how there's just a total lack of conversation around, you know, being conscious of giving these kids these addictive devices.

00:14:56.740 uh and then number two and this is a very interesting one which you already alluded to

00:15:02.020 that there's a trend of schools or uh teachers kind of going around parents when it comes to

00:15:10.400 the privacy of kids this obviously gets into the uh you know the transgender uh education

00:15:16.320 indoctrination and then finally the third related point is canadian institutions are quite obviously

00:15:24.020 guilty of sexualizing children more and more uh and this is one of the stated goals of bill c63

00:15:29.980 is is to prevent uh you know sexual exploitation of children uh meanwhile our public broadcaster

00:15:36.540 cbc has aired programs such as cbc drag kids that's just one example but uh broadly those

00:15:44.060 are kind of the three topics i think i think we'll i think we'll touch upon um is there anything

00:15:50.000 that you want to want to jump jump into right now helen that to start i know it's a lot but um

00:15:55.020 well i mean the devices like the restrictions on devices for example um i can i'm more tuned

00:16:01.660 into what's going on in bc but i'm aware of other provinces too like our our premier david eb here

00:16:08.060 in bc in february uh said that they were going to look the people sort of got the impression

00:16:16.620 that they were going to ban cell phones in schools but that wasn't actually what he said

00:16:21.180 they were the government's going to require the school districts to have a policy about cell

00:16:26.660 phones the policy could be do whatever you want it's up to the teacher total ban or whatever so

00:16:33.060 as a parent or a kid going into school you have no idea what that's going to be and you can't

00:16:41.440 control it and you can't um find out ahead of time really i mean they'll have a policy like a district

00:16:46.300 might have a different policy than another district but there's no total ban on cell phones

00:16:51.200 in school for sure there's some kind of restrictions there's something about going on

00:16:56.780 like this in Ontario Quebec but I'm not I don't know the details of that but he also announced

00:17:01.480 that they were going to the BC government is going to go after I think the social media companies

00:17:06.000 for their harms just like they went after the tobacco companies but I mean the government has

00:17:11.240 in its power right now and always has had the power to for example label devices um just like

00:17:17.880 we label cigarettes you know um that's been requested or suggested numerous times or to just

00:17:25.620 reduce the you know that they to have a policy that you you can't just use your phones and devices

00:17:30.360 and laptops and all the rest of it constantly in the classroom that remote i mean like really you

00:17:34.440 can take literally can take kindergarten online you can take woodwork online you can take every

00:17:38.600 single course you can think of in bc online and if you actually are going to school in person you

00:17:44.680 might be given a lot of online uh work like you're in your french class and you're required to use

00:17:50.360 your cell phone to access them to do the material to do the course this is and parents children

00:17:57.560 students have no way of knowing what the teacher's going to require the school's going to require

00:18:01.800 so it's a total free-for-all and there's no regard whatsoever for the peer-reviewed

00:18:06.760 findings that show that this is all bad for kids it's bad for their mental health bad for their

00:18:10.680 physical health bad for their emotional bad for everything and it's a very suboptimal way to learn

00:18:15.160 for anybody so but they just pursue it and they don't use the power that they have so when they

00:18:20.280 say they're concerned about kids well then why why even put a just even a public information

00:18:24.920 campaign campaign out there on buses or leaflets or whatever saying that you know the it's not

00:18:30.120 recommended for toddlers to be online at all on any kind of screen at all i mean i take the bus

00:18:35.640 and i literally see babies the parent gives the baby a cell phone and the little baby's eyes are

00:18:43.080 glued onto that thing and it's like i mean i've talked to the parents you know as much empathy

00:18:49.080 as i have like that you're damaging your child and guess what they will put it away but they

00:18:53.720 you know their needs government could provide at least information or restrictions or something

00:18:58.680 they're not doing anything so when they say they care about kids it's like no you don't i mean

00:19:03.800 good for you you speak up on the bus and you say hey you know that's really bad for your kid right

00:19:07.960 you do that i mean i yeah i've done that because i just i'm just it just grieves me just and i i

00:19:13.160 care about the parent i care about the kid and just have a you know not do it gently it's easier

00:19:18.600 for a woman to do this you know i'm kind of motherly or whatever so they don't get offended 0.65

00:19:22.120 and and um but it's it's it's like if i saw a child you know taking cocaine on the bus the

00:19:28.760 the parent was giving him cocaine, I might say something too. But I mean, there's a role for

00:19:33.720 government in regulating the corporate corporations selling crap to us that is damaging. Like we 0.98

00:19:41.720 regulate certain products. And it's like, this is an addictive product. I mean, we know that

00:19:46.460 children's well-being in Canada is plummeting in mental health, academics, physical health,

00:19:52.640 well-being uh it's it's it's it's not going well for the kids the kids are not all right and

00:19:58.840 government has i believe a role to protect kids and they're not i mean the stuff that they say

00:20:04.660 i mean i know this that they don't care about kids well-being because working on daycare issues for

00:20:08.580 20 years where all the peer-reviewed research says this is a bad idea this is not good for kids

00:20:14.180 well-being um and they just they say the federal government says uh that this is the best start in

00:20:21.180 life the very best start in life for children um like that's what they say who's saying that

00:20:27.040 the federal government look yeah the federal government um trudeau very this the best start

00:20:32.020 in life it's like they actually it's in writing it's it says that in their stuff and that the

00:20:35.500 policies are designed to be their high quality where all the research shows that they're inadequate

00:20:40.540 low mediocre quality so they're just flat out lying and when you're talking about little children

00:20:45.260 like when you hurt a little kid or damage their well-being in some way that's not just sort of a

00:20:49.960 short-term thing like they hurt their knee it's you're you're damaging their the systems that are

00:20:55.880 building in their their brain their neurons their their their immunity like everything and so you're

00:21:01.080 creating damaged adults so we when we follow these these policies like in quebec it's 1997 they

00:21:07.100 started their daycare policy they have increased youth crime this is the the best economists in

00:21:12.960 canada this is their peer-reviewed research and we you know we're like if we cared about kids we

00:21:20.920 would follow at least the best research and we'd also respect um you know parents rights to raise

00:21:26.140 their children you know without the government um actively coercing us financially or socially

00:21:32.220 i mean when the government keeps telling you keeps telling you like it's been over 20 years i've been

00:21:36.840 hearing it's high quality it's good for your child's health well-being academics and everything

00:21:42.500 and then he might start to believe that and therefore follow what they want um even though

00:21:49.120 it's not true so well if the government said it then it must be true yeah they keep saying it

00:21:54.940 and these these lies that you that you say they're telling about uh these programs is this

00:22:00.260 specifically online learning that they say is so fantastic well online learning they i mean they

00:22:05.120 i mean i'm talking about the daycare programs the online learning they just just i mean covid

00:22:10.200 it massively ramped up the use of online learning, remote

00:22:13.380 learning. So they kind of normalized it. And they never

00:22:18.300 like, like, they just don't. They all everybody knows the

00:22:23.820 quality sucks. And, and, but they don't say that I mean, and 0.95

00:22:27.480 there's no, like a warning label like this is, you know, not the

00:22:30.940 best, but if it's, you know, works for you kind of thing.

00:22:33.940 There's, there's nothing like that.

00:22:37.500 Sure, sure. So so let's let's slow down for

00:22:40.200 minute here um you know you made the comparison to cocaine and uh some people might think that's

00:22:45.460 silly but even for myself you know if someone if the government said they were gonna take away my

00:22:50.080 wi-fi and my tiktok i would be like no no stop like there's no way you're doing that but and i

00:22:55.180 can only imagine the sort of uh even more profound sort of uh impact uh that has on kids in terms of

00:23:01.140 you know fiending for the uh the dopamine rush and the stimulation that they would get because

00:23:06.660 you know back in the day for me i had boop boop i had like nintendo like the the original nintendo

00:23:13.600 entertainment system which was a blippity bloop machine and going outside to kick the soccer ball

00:23:18.600 was a much more stimulating experience than playing mario but these days with these smartphones and

00:23:24.860 these tablets with the with the you know retina displays where we literally can't even tell if

00:23:30.300 it's on a screen or not um that's that's really scary stuff but before we go into sort of the

00:23:36.720 the online learning stuff i want to kind of kind of rehash kind of what you just addressed there

00:23:42.160 the the government was wrong there was peer studies proving they're wrong this is all alluding

00:23:47.540 to the the daycare program yeah yeah that the i mean the government preferentially funds

00:23:54.520 non-parental care especially daycare centers like institutional care like one child is getting like

00:24:01.740 30 40 50 000 worth of subsidizing for their care and the other one who's being looked after by a

00:24:07.700 parent gets zero because the government defines child care to specifically exclude parental

00:24:13.420 child care so um yeah the bit like literally 30 billion dollars more went into this this system

00:24:19.580 um in the recent budget so in a way this is financially incentivizing parents to use the

00:24:26.540 daycare facilities as opposed to taking care of your own child yep or even just having the

00:24:33.400 ops that like a like what if you wanted to use a grandparent or a nanny or a friend or whatever

00:24:38.120 those options are either not funded at all or like a little tiny bit of money okay so tell me what

00:24:44.260 that distinction specifically looks like because you know let's say let's paint a scenario where

00:24:50.240 um you know you're you're a working mom and you have a kid that needs daycare services

00:24:56.860 you have what there's a daycare down the street that would be funded subsidized by the government

00:25:02.240 and then and what yep well like uh the new they call it ten dollar a day daycare so that's not

00:25:10.020 in every single daycare but uh like for example here in bc have ubc and sfu have daycares and

00:25:18.220 they charge ten dollars a day no more than two hundred dollars a month so if you're a professor

00:25:23.280 or a earning a hundred or two hundred thousand dollars or you are like it you get it's practically

00:25:29.260 free daycare um if you look after your own child you don't i mean if you're going to put that much

00:25:33.760 money you're putting money into children's care we'll give it to the parents and they will use

00:25:39.360 for their own costs or other costs or some mix of that but they're definitely incentivizing

00:25:45.280 institutional care i mean that is the goal i mean this is this is a blueprint written by the oecd

00:25:51.920 and unesco in 2001 which we are following and the models that that document it's called an

00:25:59.760 integrated approach approach to early childhood early childhood education and care that that that

00:26:04.720 blueprint document uh the models that they sort of mentioned include uh china vietnam

00:26:12.800 cambodia and the soviet union as models of integrated early childhood education and care

00:26:18.480 i'm sorry 2002 2002 oecd unesco document that's a blueprint for what we're doing here it's

00:26:25.600 got there's no concern for children's well-being in that that thinking so i'm paint me a picture

00:26:32.960 of how how it could be different because i guess i'm i'm so jaded by the way things are i i'm kind

00:26:38.340 of imagining so so how would that work the government would subsidize grandpa to take care

00:26:42.560 of the kids like what does that look like have we had a system like that in the past well that

00:26:47.580 basically that uh all that children's care would be funded whatever funding you're doing it goes

00:26:55.100 directly to the parent based on the fact that based on the number and age of the children and

00:27:00.600 perhaps also on income um it doesn't it could be a means tested thing or it could be just every kid

00:27:06.720 gets this share it depends and just depending on the age and the number of children so that's that

00:27:11.820 that money that's going now like a minority of the population like only about 15 percent of children

00:27:19.460 are in daycare centers that money goes to that system even if the kid is not in this base but

00:27:27.120 they're enrolled the money goes there and the vast majority of child care is not funded at all

00:27:34.980 because it doesn't it does not it's not part of the system so it doesn't you know i mean in that

00:27:40.100 system like if your child is sick or whatever or only goes for a few hours a day they still get

00:27:45.080 the full funding so the money goes like we say fund the child fund the child not the system you

00:27:52.500 know the money should follow the child we say in daycare as well as in education and uh people

00:27:58.220 could use that as they see fit right so right now the money is are going to the to the system and

00:28:04.500 not to to the kids so i guess the idea would be you know if you if you have children then you

00:28:09.600 would have some sort of tax benefit uh to that yeah well i mean there is a child tax benefit

00:28:15.340 or a canadian child now then they could use they could put the daycare money into that and increase

00:28:20.100 that or it's called a refundable tax credit or something like that but basically right now you're

00:28:26.260 incentivizing people to not look after their own children and the money's going like where does the

00:28:30.740 money go and the system's being paid but the kids away or sick or or uh only using it for a few

00:28:37.300 hours a day but you're but you're funding it for you know what 80 hours a week or something okay

00:28:43.060 and let's and let's touch on uh the peer-reviewed research that says that this is uh really bad

00:28:49.700 stuff could you could you get a little bit into that give us the sort of cole's notes

00:28:54.020 yeah um to uh kevin milligan and michael baker are top canadian economists like really top

00:29:00.820 economists they did uh study the quebec system shortly after it was started and then uh 20 years

00:29:07.940 after it was started um and they found that children's health parents health is worse parent

00:29:14.340 child conflict is worse kids behavior like aggressive behavior and all is worse and that

00:29:19.300 in the longer term study they found that youth crime has increased compared to the rest of canada

00:29:25.220 following the implementation of this program this basically was a massive experiment a huge

00:29:29.940 social experiment on quebec that didn't happen in other places so they could just compare the

00:29:33.620 statistics um that are out there and this is what they concluded and they could because the

00:29:38.180 government's always telling you and all the mps all think that this system this pays for itself

00:29:42.820 you put a dollar into daycare and it's going to yield two or ten or fifteen or seventeen dollars

00:29:47.380 benefit and that's not true there they said that at most the um increased tax revenue from increased

00:29:55.220 um mother's labor or um uh labor participation was maybe covering 40 of the program so you're

00:30:02.980 losing money on it and it's harming kids and it's harming parents and it's making mothers more

00:30:07.300 depressed also that was another thing and more marital conflict it gets an all-round bad thing

00:30:12.020 so that's the peer-reviewed research i mean and there's other peer-reviewed research so you know

00:30:16.660 the more time a child spends in a daycare center the more risk-taking behavior at age 15 the more

00:30:22.020 aggression and all the rest of it at uh at younger ages it's it's it's why are we doing this because

00:30:28.340 there's a lot of research out there that's not peer-reviewed and that's the stuff the government

00:30:32.180 uses it's it's garbage research that's often published by or written by phds or it could be

00:30:39.800 like the bank i think the td bank and the royal bank publish this stuff and the canadian council

00:30:45.460 for policy alternatives and all the daycare lobby people publish this stuff and it might have

00:30:50.000 somebody some doctorate sign off on it uh but it's not peer-reviewed and it's it flies in the

00:30:57.060 face of all the peer-reviewed evidence yeah i mean i mean it's so frustrating because

00:31:02.580 what i was thinking about as you were speaking is even the liberals and the conservatives like

00:31:08.800 they both sort of love to focus on money stuff of like no like you know the conservatives like

00:31:15.180 we're gonna save you money and the liberals are like no we're gonna invest in you and give you

00:31:20.220 money that's gonna help you and never is it mentioned the sort of incalculable incalculable

00:31:26.280 or inexplicable negative consequences

00:31:30.300 to the family, for example.

00:31:32.500 Well, I mean, our policies are harming kids.

00:31:37.220 Like it's 100% predictable.

00:31:39.320 I mean, when we're seeing it,

00:31:40.340 that there's gonna be more addiction,

00:31:42.240 more aggression, more basically dysfunctional behavior,

00:31:45.260 more problematic relations and poor health

00:31:47.920 and immunity like short-term and long-term.

00:31:50.640 And it's happening.

00:31:53.080 If you wanna reduce addictions,

00:31:54.660 one thing you could do is strengthen the parent-child relationship i mean i mean remember

00:31:58.580 canada has this history um since the mid-1800s of attacking the parent-child relationship and

00:32:04.100 we're continuing in that vein since the 1800s well yeah the residential school system right

00:32:11.700 and the compulsory school attendance laws like these were done with no concern whatsoever for

00:32:20.180 the parent-child relationship it's just yeah yeah so let's go into uh i'm gonna see if i can get you

00:32:28.600 over here just one second oh my face is all messed up over here now oops how do we do that

00:32:35.960 just give me a second here

00:32:40.280 uh i think we'll put us over here so uh can you read this on the screen yeah yeah so this is the

00:32:55.280 recent stuff um a culture change ontario launches advertising blitz as new cell phone ban goes into

00:33:01.300 effect for public schools now that sounds like hey this might be a step in the right direction

00:33:05.820 yeah uh i just read the you know first few paragraphs ontario's new education minister

00:33:10.620 says that the government has begun an advertising blitz to make students and parents aware of a new

00:33:14.540 cell phone ban that will be in effect when classes resume next week for the coming school year

00:33:19.100 students in kindergarten to grade six will be asked to keep their phones on silent and out of

00:33:23.400 sight for the entire day unless permitted by an educator unless permitted by an educator so

00:33:30.620 you know well that's not exactly a ban right and i mean a ban means you don't bring your phone to

00:33:38.180 school or you drop it off at the office at the front when you enter a few a very few schools

00:33:42.500 have that where you you bring a phone you put it in the office or something at the beginning of the

00:33:46.240 day um and it's for a lot about the older kids it's okay the cell phones are one aspect but

00:33:51.620 there's also just the other screens the lap the um you know the uh what do you call those things

00:33:56.660 the tablets and the screens and well i mean it's a step in the right direction for sure but

00:34:02.720 um i mean you remember the the computer companies and all that they they don't want this i mean

00:34:09.040 there's mad huge huge money and the more kids and the more everybody's on screen the more money they

00:34:14.660 make and once the government's like requiring kids to do their assignments online upload your

00:34:21.500 photograph online do the chat room online do the with the other students and do your uh powerpoint

00:34:28.160 projects and use uh uh google docs they routinely ask kids to use google docs for things it's like

00:34:34.940 they have no concern for privacy at any level i mean it's just routine that's it's totally normal

00:34:39.620 i mean this year in bc um and if you don't want to use google docs and you don't want your kid

00:34:46.040 to do all these powerpoint type presentations well you're going to be in conflict with your

00:34:50.300 teacher which there you go yeah yeah um so let's let's talk more about that the the sort of

00:34:58.200 digitization of education that's even happening as low as i mean i hope they don't do that in

00:35:03.500 kindergarten well most very few kindergarten kids would do but but you can do kindergarten

00:35:08.640 online and a kindergarten class actually was a wasn't even a kindergarten class was a we have

00:35:13.380 these a drop-in parent child or uh things in schools some schools here in bc called strong

00:35:19.820 start strong start for age zero to five and when they first opened the one nearest to me they had

00:35:25.580 three ibm computers in them and a big huge ibm logo really big letters um and they've been donated

00:35:32.620 isn't that nice of the company and the principal who was opening the things was you know we want

00:35:36.860 to thank ibm for donating these things it was like well these kids this age shouldn't be on screens

00:35:42.540 at all and the big huge logo like it's so big even the little you know three-year-olds are

00:35:47.020 going to ibm in their face all day long or well as long as they're there so i i mean there's just

00:35:53.260 like they'll they'll sell the kids well-being for a buck they do it all the time it's routine um

00:36:00.540 it's just it's you hear my frustration you know but i mean part of it like this this i mean this

00:36:08.140 online stuff this this increasing amount of online stuff in the school system and then couple that

00:36:14.220 with um okay i don't know the curriculum in the other provinces but since 1995 in bc

00:36:21.820 personal planning it's called other things as well but personal planning has been a part

00:36:27.820 of the curriculum and so when you look at the curriculum in these areas

00:36:33.820 it's in the pe and in the planning curriculum um quick kids are to discuss their personal life

00:36:42.060 like uh talk about who's in your family who lives in your house um did you ever have a fight with

00:36:49.660 a friend and how did you resolve that what do you eat what did you eat last week what do you do out

00:36:54.460 of school what's your gender identity what's your sexuality uh who's your friends i mean is there

00:37:01.580 anybody at home who cares about you is anybody at school who cares about like and then this is part

00:37:06.060 of the curriculum it's like like these so the the violation of like propriety like if somebody asks

00:37:13.180 you these questions you shouldn't answer these questions and they shouldn't be asking them

00:37:17.260 it's it's not the school's business what's going on in your family life what you eat at home what

00:37:22.380 you do out of school time um but that's completely routine it's part of the curriculum k to 12 here

00:37:28.460 in bc um like in grade 10 11 12 you might be asked to um do an assignment where you like it's a big

00:37:36.780 assignment where you put your photograph up online on some online platform talk about your

00:37:41.420 personality your beliefs your goals your family members the things you like the things you don't

00:37:46.220 like and put this all it's like this is what we do here um sometimes like i tutor kids and

00:37:52.220 and you have friends and my own kids.

00:37:55.960 And they sometimes feel like,

00:37:57.500 they sort of feel like they don't wanna do this.

00:37:59.220 And I say, don't do it or just lie

00:38:01.660 or just tell your teacher that this is a privacy violation

00:38:04.100 and I won't do it because it's like back off.

00:38:07.680 Wow, so I'm so-

00:38:09.400 Graduation requirement.

00:38:11.100 It's a graduation requirement.

00:38:12.780 I'm so confused.

00:38:13.680 So you said the name of this program broadly

00:38:15.740 is planning or something?

00:38:18.360 Well, it's part of the career and personal planning,

00:38:22.080 of the curriculum and also part of the um a pe which is now physical and health education they

00:38:28.960 ask these questions but it could be in anything you could do an english course or something where

00:38:33.120 basically an identity is a big issue like the creation like what is your identity how do you

00:38:39.520 identify is like in your race or your sexuality or your uh your your religion or your beliefs or

00:38:45.440 whatever like their identity construction is what the schools are very concerned about here

00:38:52.320 so when you're reading a novel or a story or something it's not like what did what happened

00:38:57.360 in the novel and why did that happen in the novel those why did those characters do these things or

00:39:02.080 whatever it's well how do you feel about and do you relate to that and did something like that

00:39:06.080 happened to you and how did you deal with it so it's it's you are the kids are the curriculum

00:39:12.560 and that's it doesn't have to be about sexual stuff but the sexual stuff comes into with the

00:39:18.000 sexual orientation gender identity stuff and then there's also yeah yes and then there's also um

00:39:24.240 the um research you know social science research projects they do in the schools

00:39:29.600 which ask all sorts of questions about your personal life it's like it's like the schools

00:39:34.160 are not meant to be there for social science research the kids are not lab rats they're not

00:39:38.080 like you're wasting kids time your government funds they do huge questionnaires um some of

00:39:45.540 them are focused on sexual issues and stuff like that like how much do you drink how much do you

00:39:49.680 did you use a condom blah blah blah all these kinds of things um and then they're moving to

00:39:53.820 high school yeah they'll be in high school yeah but but the uh it sounds like a survey it sounds

00:40:00.960 like a bunch of surveys asking kids what they're into what they do those surveys yeah but it's like

00:40:05.940 like they do this in the schools and they don't ask if they use what they call it it's the human

00:40:12.780 early learning partnership which is in based in bc but these surveys go from them to other provinces

00:40:18.300 and there's other surveys as well um and there's the sexual type surveys are but they they they

00:40:25.660 start them in kindergarten and they don't they use what they call passive consent which means

00:40:30.900 no consent the parents are supposed to be notified about this that they can opt out if they don't

00:40:36.660 want their kid to participate but they already have all the data that all the kids basic uh you

00:40:42.500 know um personal education number personal health number they already have all that i mean it's like

00:40:47.780 the schools are like a place where kids are just being that not just the kids but their families

00:40:51.880 because the kids ask questions about their family like you know who lives in your house what language

00:40:57.560 do they speak what do you eat what do you do does anybody like you at home i mean it's just

00:41:02.440 it's it's really disgusting what happens in school routinely like all the time routine and what's the

00:41:08.200 argument as to why this would be relevant to educating a child all the image give me give us

00:41:13.880 all the information of what your your home life is like well well they they say that the information

00:41:18.920 from these surveys is used to create programs to address needs but no it's actually used to just

00:41:26.760 data mine the population especially in bc like uh it's it's over the top in bc we have a

00:41:33.240 organization called population data bc pop data bc.c pop data bc.ca they collect and um

00:41:44.840 they have all the data on all over 5 million residents of bc all your health information

00:41:51.960 all your education information uh your your income information your work information they collect it

00:41:59.720 and this stuff from the schools goes in there it's a key piece because it helps to

00:42:04.920 collect all the data you got you got that pop data bc.ca you look on the

00:42:08.840 for researchers and the data it's like it's i'm uh pop data bc.ca i'm getting a sketchy

00:42:17.000 looking website that's not secure actually right now is there no that's not it no no how about

00:42:24.120 um pop data maybe it's pop data.bc.ca put another dot in there sorry

00:42:31.960 the organization is population data this looks yeah and go under the section for researchers

00:42:38.200 where it says for researchers look under there okay and then go to uh this data available thing

00:42:45.400 data available click on this yeah uh yeah and uh core versus non-core scroll down go back down

00:42:55.240 uh data sets uh k to 12 socioeconomic index student assessments

00:43:05.800 yeah i mean they have all your medical data like for everybody in bc

00:43:10.120 uh fields available as i see interesting yeah i mean this is this is this is our problem what is

00:43:19.400 population data about providing services well look at their history thing their goal is to be

00:43:26.200 the world's number one um source of uh population data like that's their goal if you look in their

00:43:32.680 history section at the end of the history that's what they have and and this is a this organization

00:43:38.840 is a um a private it's it's a non-profit society so it's it's not the government but it's completely

00:43:46.680 funded by the government yet today the very bottom area today over time most world's most

00:43:54.920 comprehensive data resource on factors that influence human health well-being and development

00:44:01.560 which is everything interesting interesting i kind of want to watch this video because it'll

00:44:06.920 probably it's it's it's big brother um and big brother's been in our schools doing this

00:44:13.640 it's not just the kids it's like everybody i've met if you straight up data and you

00:44:17.880 of our society what makes some people or communities healthier than others population

00:44:23.480 health researchers attempt to answer these questions by looking at an individual's social

00:44:28.520 economic and physical environments when looking at the health of whole communities however

00:44:34.600 researchers must examine the lives and experiences of many individuals

00:44:39.320 one of the body has about you this is very creepy it's very creepy and nobody knows about it i want

00:44:45.400 to i want to play a little bit more you can i think you can read the uh the subtitles i guess

00:44:50.520 this is pretty small for everybody how do we make this bigger okay just give me just give me a sec

00:44:55.560 here what's the difference between a regular notebook and whoops sorry sorry folks just give

00:45:02.360 give us a second here we're gonna we want to give you the content so it's bigger uh i guess we'll

00:45:08.860 go back over here skip okay uh i know you won't be able to hear it uh helen but we'll just well

00:45:18.260 i think you should be able to see the subtitles so we'll just start from this creepy guy talking

00:45:24.680 this creepy nondescript yellow person population health researchers attempt to answer these 0.54

00:45:32.140 questions by looking at an individual's social, economic, and physical 0.97

00:45:36.700 environments. When looking at the health of whole communities, however, researchers

00:45:41.700 must examine the lives and experiences of many individuals. One of the best ways

00:45:46.660 to do this is to use administrative data, personal information that was

00:45:51.100 originally collected for another purpose. As British Columbians move through life,

00:45:55.660 they generate data. When a baby is born, the birth certificate, other life

00:46:01.920 experiences such as early education, career choices, hospital visits and other health

00:46:11.520 related issues, getting married, birthing a child, attending college or university, and

00:46:21.120 dying also produce data in the form of various records and documentation. This type of unique

00:46:27.820 Information is crucial to learning about what is and isn't making us and our communities healthier.

00:46:34.920 Administrative data is collected and stored by a variety of government agencies and departments, who we call Data Stewards.

00:46:42.640 Because of the sensitive nature of much of this personal data, Data Stewards have policies and procedures like the Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act to keep it secure and safe.

00:46:54.900 okay i've seen enough this is this is very very strange no yeah this is this is um it's it's

00:47:03.300 this is what we're doing in bc we've been doing this for like close to 20 years it's been growing

00:47:08.460 and it's because it's like it's it's a private organization not that's run it's it's totally

00:47:15.460 funded by the government but it's not run by the government so it's not like accountable to the

00:47:20.820 government so the mlas here the provincial politicians don't know about it it's not reviewed

00:47:26.120 um in in uh the uh in victoria here i mean that's just one example of what's going on it's i think

00:47:34.040 it's worse in bc but it's coming to a province near you or it's already there but maybe not quite

00:47:38.660 as extreme as it is here i mean it's all about helping us right helping us yeah let's watch just

00:47:46.560 kind of the the very end here at one change can make the whole community

00:47:53.560 healthier for example based on neighborhood rates of child

00:47:58.060 vulnerability British Columbia made decisions about where to pilot and now

00:48:02.940 expand strong start programs around the province every individual person's

00:48:08.880 experience can contribute to valuable research which may then lead to policy

00:48:13.840 change that benefits everyone everyone contributes everyone benefits

00:48:22.320 this is so creepy um because it's to me my interpretation is hey you don't need privacy

00:48:29.840 anymore just give away all of your data and you will make society better it's beneficial for

00:48:36.240 everyone it's very good it's very good yeah well and i mean this that's one aspect those are like

00:48:42.000 the surveys done by the social science researchers that they collect this stuff and they mine it they

00:48:49.520 collect it and they sell it um but then there's also just this routine violation of you know like

00:48:55.360 i'm not going to ask you about your household or your personal life because i'm just not that close

00:49:00.240 to you and we're on this you know but it's normal in schools to do that kids are asked to just

00:49:04.240 talk about themselves and their family members in in ways that like i mean this person came a

00:49:10.160 stranger came up to you on the street and did that you would know that that's weird like why do

00:49:14.560 you why are you asking what i ate last week but they're being in culture they're being like you

00:49:18.960 know that inculturated into a a habit of just you know give your information talk to you about your

00:49:25.520 personal information to authorities without question and put it up online too usually

00:49:31.120 or make a poster and put it up on the wall at school about who's in your family like what if

00:49:35.360 if the child's you know dad died what if there's a kind of weird situation going on and they don't

00:49:40.820 want to put it on like there's no concern it's anything it's so interesting because it's the

00:49:45.820 complete opposite of what we were taught when we first had access to the internet which is like

00:49:51.700 don't give out your information don't give out your information online but but apparently it's

00:49:56.240 oh if it's the school you know you share as much as you'd like and aside from the whole you know

00:50:01.600 government uh you know subject or government sort of student or government young person relationship

00:50:07.200 this is just a very bad lesson in relationships period you know it's essentially encouraging

00:50:13.020 don't have don't have boundaries uh just you know if someone asks you a question answer it just just

00:50:19.920 give away you know don't have any sort of wire i mean it's required you have to really like really

00:50:24.520 fight to say no like i told my if they ask you this tell them no tell them your mom won't let

00:50:29.840 you you know um it doesn't win you any friends at school or the teachers don't like it when you

00:50:34.420 tell them no i'm not doing that assignment no i'm not telling you what i ate no i'm not telling you

00:50:37.980 what i did i mean and and like then if you you alluded to this earlier and it totally uh matches

00:50:45.680 what you were saying which is you know ibm is going to show up at the school to prey upon kids

00:50:51.560 like hey look at our machines like look at our brand let's get the kids hooked on this technology

00:50:56.340 soon yeah but for those who don't know uh very very smart economists for years now have been

00:51:02.280 saying the new gold is data the new the new gold that you mine is data and it looks like this

00:51:09.140 organization pop data.bc has kind of found a way around um or i guess a very creative official

00:51:18.180 over the table way of mining that data through schools because it's not just through schools

00:51:23.460 but yeah schools are a key part of it yeah yeah um and like what happens with that data who knows

00:51:30.160 but i do want to kind of take this conversation to a dark uh dark place and tie it back to bill c63

00:51:37.080 um i i came up with this it was kind of like as a joke but the more and more as as you know

00:51:44.400 the dystopian continues i i do feel like it's a relevant sort of like uh angle to look at things

00:51:49.260 and that is called the pedophile rule and the pedophile rule is if you are pushing for a thing

00:51:57.020 or excited about a thing that specifically a pedophile would like or get excited about

00:52:03.800 then you should actually not push for that thing you should actually be very questionable

00:52:08.080 uh towards that that behavior or that policy or that idea and in my opinion this this follows this

00:52:14.820 fails the pedophile rule this is something that a pedophile specifically would actually be very

00:52:18.420 excited about it's like oh oh all the information that a young vulnerable person has oh you don't

00:52:22.860 have a good relationship at home oh oh oh you're interested in this maybe i can like look look you

00:52:28.800 up on some chat room or something yeah or what do you like to do after school what are your

00:52:33.100 after school activities you go to the park the library you hang out you do only it's like

00:52:37.260 and and it's it but it's just training kids to divulge their information to total strangers

00:52:43.360 as a routine reflex habit from kindergarten on but you know you mentioned boundaries well actually

00:52:49.940 boundaries and consent is also in the curriculum in bc from k to 12 in the physical and health

00:52:56.740 education component they're supposed to learn to say for example in kindergarten no i don't like

00:53:03.660 that or but but that's supposed to be a lesson that's traditionally but they're but they're

00:53:08.900 actually violating the boundaries of the kids all the time like no i don't want to go to school no

00:53:14.720 i'm not answering that question no actually i'd rather be at home but my mom can't afford to you

00:53:18.600 know it's like to have me you know it's like there's there's no this is manipulation of the

00:53:23.500 concept of consent like because it's really big you gotta do consent all the time but you're well

00:53:28.820 the kids don't even consent to going to school let alone having a particular teacher or what

00:53:33.080 they're being taught i mean i'm not saying that they should be able to consent to all that but

00:53:36.200 it's it's you're you're this pretense that school is the safe place the teachers anybody if you're

00:53:42.740 a teacher you're safe if you're a parent you know you're probably going to abuse your kid right so

00:53:46.600 there's this assumption that school is safe government is safe social workers are safe

00:53:50.040 child protection services are safe like come on man i mean like we weren't born yesterday but

00:53:56.280 you touch on a very uh interesting trend how how long would you say that trend has been

00:54:03.180 going on for or would you say goes back to the 1800s that being that uh you know the parents

00:54:08.680 can't be trusted but the uh the canadian institutions and the government and and these

00:54:13.560 government funded teachers can be trusted yeah well i would say it does go back to there i mean

00:54:19.080 it was the uh edgerton ryerson whose ryerson university was named after him he wrote two

00:54:25.300 reports in 1847 1848 one established the uh compulsory at school attendance laws and the

00:54:33.280 other one established the uh residential schools and he was doing he was a very devout christian

00:54:38.300 he was doing it you know i he had good intentions like the road to hell is being paved there right

00:54:43.220 but and and you know i'm not saying everything that happened was bad because it's not but um

00:54:47.920 but this he didn't trust the parent-child relationship he said we've got to have these

00:54:52.940 certified people because they're going to do a better job they're you know this this trust in

00:54:57.780 certification and and institutions but i mean it hasn't panned out i mean obviously all parents

00:55:04.380 are flawed and some of them are very very flawed but an institution that's flawed causes way more

00:55:09.400 damage and like why can't we trust what what is it about parents that you don't like you know is

00:55:15.160 it it's because a prejudice against the parents is like a prejudice against somebody because of

00:55:20.400 their color or their religion or where they came from it's exactly the same in the human rights

00:55:24.700 law it's this discrimination based on your family status and that's not okay so yeah yeah uh i do

00:55:32.520 want to quickly reference uh an email i got from somebody they they sent an email to the i think it

00:55:38.540 was a safe free speech email uh and they're really worried that they say i personally feel like this

00:55:43.980 is a bill that will hurt children as opposed to helping them this is regards to bill c63 there

00:55:48.560 There are evil layers to this bill that involve so much more control and abuse from these psychopaths.

00:55:53.420 I think a way to show how this bill will harm children is to dig into how the country protects pedophiles.

00:55:58.500 Get into the National Sex Offense Registry list and how it was public and is now private.

00:56:04.880 I can see private for some offenses perhaps, but never private for crimes against children.

00:56:10.080 You know, this is all new information to me.

00:56:12.840 I haven't looked into this yet, but I think that, you know, in the spirit of actually protecting kids,

00:56:18.560 that this is something that we need to pay attention to.

00:56:21.980 You know, I could bring up the things that have been mentioned before

00:56:24.700 of, you know, Justin Trudeau next to this liberal guy

00:56:28.260 or this friend who is, you know, guilty of child pornography or et cetera,

00:56:32.360 but it looks like it is more deeper than that

00:56:35.340 in that, you know, these so-called great policies

00:56:38.460 might actually be all systemic

00:56:42.040 in making kids more vulnerable to sexual exploitation.

00:56:46.480 And I think it goes without saying,

00:56:47.740 the transgender education and specifically what was it it was bill c4 right i'm not sure which

00:56:54.660 bill that was i think it's bill c4 that is uh essentially uh it's all about gender affirming

00:57:02.740 care so which is an insidious way to say that uh if you want to change your gender as a young

00:57:10.440 person it's totally fine uh but if you if you want to try to help a kid not do that then that

00:57:16.080 now illegal and now kind of equated to as the same as uh you know you like if you try to convince a

00:57:23.200 kid not to become transgender it's on the same part as being a child pornographer if i'm not

00:57:29.180 mistaken well they're i mean again it's it's like parents can talk to their children about stuff and

00:57:37.520 if the government thinks there's that they're not allowed to do that then well that that law

00:57:42.400 needs to be challenged and and it's very difficult for parents to challenge laws because we're not

00:57:47.120 like funded by the government to challenge laws for example egal equality for gays and lesbians

00:57:54.160 everywhere is does a lot of um court cases and they are funded by the federal government um so

00:58:00.240 that helps with those legal bills i mean you know in any teacher's organization if a teacher was

00:58:05.680 taken to the the uh teachers union would probably maybe not in all cases but help to fund the legal

00:58:12.880 bills um right where parents are kind of uh they're vulnerable in that way because they don't have a

00:58:20.080 like our organization is not a powerful organization right but uh the parents don't

00:58:24.800 have something any anything like that's equivalent to those kinds of professional union type bodies

00:58:29.920 and advocacy organizations that are government-funded.

00:58:33.800 So it's just sort of getting worse and worse.

00:58:37.380 I mean, I don't know about BC, but part of the thing that started here,

00:58:41.500 it was in 2006, there was a thing called the Corrin Agreement.

00:58:46.320 The Corrins were a same-sex couple.

00:58:48.760 They were both teachers. 0.59

00:58:50.420 They were sex activists.

00:58:51.900 That's not a pejorative term in my view,

00:58:53.540 but they made a human rights complaint against the Ministry of Education

00:58:58.760 to say that because same-sex marriage had been legalized in 1995, I think,

00:59:05.820 and so they took their case saying that there's not a depiction

00:59:09.900 of same-sex couples and parented families in the school curriculum.

00:59:15.640 So the BC government actually made an agreement.

00:59:18.320 It never even went to a hearing.

00:59:19.600 It made an agreement, the coronary agreement, with this couple,

00:59:23.460 giving this couple the right or the power to review the entire curriculum

00:59:28.260 every grade every course and make recommendations and to also recommend organizations um to consult

00:59:36.920 with on these issues and their goal was to quote one of the corns up to queer the curriculum

00:59:42.340 and they didn't they didn't want parents fields opt out because you know if parents could opt out

00:59:47.920 that would kind of like defeat the purpose i just looked this up right now this is this is insane

00:59:53.420 uh the agreement requires that parents not be allowed to pull their children from any of these

00:59:58.760 classes to provide an alternative delivery of these issues being addressed um wow yeah i mean

01:00:06.460 bc is so ahead of the insanity on this well we're i think bc i'm not totally sure but it appears to

01:00:13.200 me that bc kind of we cut the ground and then it sort of goes to the rest of the provinces and we

01:00:17.500 we can lead the way um but this is some of the sort of underlying stuff that's i mean why would

01:00:24.020 a couple of anybody be able to be the consultants about anything yeah and to let alone let alone a 0.61

01:00:30.660 homosexual couple hey we need to look over all the curriculum how how the how the heck did they 0.68

01:00:35.360 land upon this as the solution or a sort of um that was the policy idea so there you go um yeah 0.95

01:00:43.960 That sounds like a totally twisted SNL sketch.

01:00:48.840 Okay, well, we're going to look over this whole education system. 1.00

01:00:51.640 Let me tell you, it needs to be more queer. 1.00

01:00:54.540 And if any of these straight parents try to opt out of it, that's insane. 1.00

01:00:59.480 Well, I mean, from my perspective, parents are legally, morally,

01:01:04.380 in every way in charge of their child's education.

01:01:06.540 That's the Supreme Court of Canada.

01:01:07.860 That's the international human rights agreements about the family

01:01:10.900 and about education and all the rest of it, 0.96

01:01:12.900 is that parents are in charge of their kids education and their upbringing and we delegate

01:01:17.760 to the school so if a if a parent wants that education for their child that's that's okay

01:01:23.460 parent doesn't want it parent wants some of it but not all of it the parent is in charge so um

01:01:29.600 but the this sort of going around the parents thing it's like like what's up with that i mean

01:01:35.960 as soon as somebody's trying to go between the child and the parent there is an issue um you

01:01:42.460 know and this this routine like it's this routine now to say i mean it's i call it hate speech

01:01:46.580 because i think it's a form of hate speech when somebody says well we can't tell the parents

01:01:49.480 because you know they might abuse their kid it's like well can you have isn't there like a some

01:01:53.840 kind of court hearing required like some kind of a court process to just establish that somebody's

01:01:58.320 guilty you know so you're guilty for being proven innocent as a parent like you were

01:02:03.220 we can't tell parents because they might they may whatever uh hurt their kid and it's like 0.54

01:02:09.100 who how do you determine that it's like saying you know oh if they're black or they're jewish 0.56

01:02:14.660 or they're scottish or irish they're gonna abuse their kids it's it's um it's it's just like a 0.61

01:02:20.600 form of ism like a it's like a racism thing it's it's pure discrimination but it's become routine

01:02:26.040 um and you know even like like the provinces that are restricting some of this to

01:02:31.880 under 16 okay so when your kid is 16 the schools can go around the parents

01:02:37.480 i mean like if the child if the child is does something at school or goes to a health care

01:02:44.560 provider a medical person or whatever or a psychiatrist or psychologist or whatever

01:02:48.880 and something happens there and the parent doesn't know about it i mean your your kid is oh they just

01:02:56.200 i guess they're just tired today well maybe they're overdosing maybe they're having a negative

01:03:00.260 reaction to that medication maybe they stop taking a medication that they need but you don't know but

01:03:05.500 you are i mean it's your child you're the one nobody else is even going even allowed to be

01:03:12.240 there to monitor their um you know their daily well-being so you're you're if the kid i mean

01:03:17.920 kids have died because they've refused to get them uh like addiction treatment and then the

01:03:24.000 overdose and the parents not allowed to know about the problem the doctor won't tell them

01:03:30.000 And this Elliot Yurchuk was a 16-year-old in Victoria who died of an overdose because of this.

01:03:38.980 You know, he refused.

01:03:40.320 He didn't want the doctor to talk to his parents.

01:03:43.060 His mother found him dead in his bed.

01:03:45.600 I mean, this is like, so when they say they carry their children, they don't.

01:03:51.740 And they don't, they're supposed to, like with the COVID thing, I mean, here in BC and I think across the country,

01:03:58.820 children were getting to their own emails from the health authorities that they could sign up to get

01:04:05.080 a get a get the shots without their parents knowledge or consent they could do it on their

01:04:11.620 own so whatever you think about these shots if your child has one or has not had one you need

01:04:18.120 to know if you're going on a trip and it requires a shot but you don't know then that's going to

01:04:23.520 mess you up or the kid had the shot and you don't know maybe they're having a reaction maybe a mild

01:04:27.380 reaction may be a severe reaction but you don't know and nobody else is there in the home you know

01:04:33.140 in their daily life to monitor them it's completely irresponsible it's it shows a complete contempt for

01:04:38.980 children's well-being and for the parent-child relationship and can can you go back can you go

01:04:44.020 back to how exactly they've justified this to be normal where the the school or the the teacher is

01:04:51.220 saying no no uh this is just between us we're not going to involve your parent what what was i know

01:04:56.740 you mentioned it but could you go back to that like what the justification is it's the it's this

01:05:01.220 it's the idea that the parent may abuse the kid but you can't you can't i mean you know they may

01:05:07.540 they may not and usually they don't um and parent parent child conflict is normal it's even sort of

01:05:14.020 required for development parent child conflict interpersonal conflict is normal and to for the

01:05:20.500 state to put the full weight of the state behind the child on the presumption with no evidence

01:05:28.740 whatsoever that that parent may be abusive and what does abuse mean like you might yell at them

01:05:35.140 i mean kid might i mean because yelling at your child or or or any anything that might make them

01:05:40.820 feel bad in any way uh is is is a considered emotional abuse and you could have the child

01:05:46.340 protection services launch a case against you but i mean there's also the presumption that parents

01:05:53.380 are bad and the correlated presumption that the state is good all teachers all social workers

01:05:58.980 all counselors all all we are they're all all child protection staff you know they're all doctors all

01:06:04.100 matter they're all good they never harm children ever they've never done that so i mean the evidence

01:06:09.540 is clear that that's not true so the presumption that's sort of written into the law that parents

01:06:14.580 are or could be very bad but there's you can the presumption is that the state is always benign

01:06:20.580 or it is always good which is clearly contradicts all the evidence that we have on those issues

01:06:26.820 right and and is there a specific piece of of policy or like protocol in schools or you mentioned

01:06:33.140 it's a law that says well it's in bc it's called the infants act and you might have heard of the

01:06:39.060 the concept of mature minor consent this is this is recent right no the infants act it's a very

01:06:46.680 ancient piece of legislation that was modified in the 70s and again in the 90s to allow minors

01:06:52.980 to consent to or refuse health care treatment if a health care provider broadly defines think that

01:07:02.760 they're okay to do that um i mean but that's that's for health care providers teachers are

01:07:08.920 not health care providers maybe the school counselor could be but a teacher has no legislation

01:07:15.160 to stand on at all a school counselor may be able to stand on that piece of legislation because

01:07:20.080 they're providing a therapeutic service but a teacher who decides to withhold information from

01:07:24.580 a parent like i mean the thing is like they get away with this because parents don't take them to

01:07:29.280 court and um because it's it's a teacher has no there's no there's it's against their actions

01:07:36.920 against their uh um you know their professional code of conduct to do these sorts of things

01:07:42.500 they're supposed to engage with parents you're not supposed to hide information with parents so

01:07:45.560 it's it's and it's also like the human rights codes in all the provinces says that family

01:07:52.240 status is a protected ground so that means like the status of being a parent of a child or a child

01:07:58.200 of a parent you can't be prejudiced against that like you can't be prejudiced because because of

01:08:04.040 their their their color or their race or their religion this is but it's it's just routine now

01:08:09.240 it's completely routine to i i mean when the when they they you know the provincial government say

01:08:14.840 well we will we'll um if kids 16 or under 16 well you'll have to inform those parents but

01:08:22.760 But what about the 16, 17, 18-year-olds? 0.99

01:08:25.260 I mean, you don't have to inform them because, you know, if they die in their beds, tough shit. 0.99

01:08:31.600 I mean, what is it? 0.99

01:08:32.240 I mean, it's nobody else has that.

01:08:35.360 I mean, parents have a legal responsibility, liability, as well as, I mean, the right and all the rest of it to look after their kids.

01:08:44.380 And you're taking away.

01:08:45.560 You're interfering with our legal responsibilities and our rights.

01:08:50.580 And you're getting away with it.

01:08:51.780 it's basically because parents have a heck of a time even knowing this stuff they don't i mean i'm

01:08:56.900 not the typical parent in this way they don't they don't know that these things can happen that's why

01:09:01.540 you know this like last year there was this huge the million whatever march and all that parents

01:09:06.340 are it's beginning to wake parents up to how bad it is because they really they're just shocked

01:09:12.420 like how can you do that how can you do that how can you my child is now calling herself something

01:09:18.980 else and i didn't even know you never told me how can you do this my kids going getting surgery or

01:09:24.400 my kids you know on on drugs for antidepressants and i didn't even know it's like and from what

01:09:30.180 you can see like what are the what are the teachers being told here or what are the teachers

01:09:36.220 understand that the rules are uh in general when it comes to you know well you can you can just

01:09:42.240 tell me timmy you don't have to tell your parents about this like do you know kind of what their

01:09:46.320 understanding of these rules are and what they're told to do i think it would vary it would be

01:09:50.960 they're getting a message that i mean it's kind of normalize this um call it parent hatred

01:09:57.040 but individual parent teachers are often parents themselves and or they might just think they would

01:10:03.260 never do that i mean i i don't work in the school system but i tutor kids and i would

01:10:06.760 i would hate to do something with a child that the that the parent would have offended the parents

01:10:12.560 i mean i would i would just apologize profusely and never do it again um because this is sort of

01:10:18.880 as a somebody who's um has access to a child as a teacher a tutor a coach or whatever you are

01:10:24.700 that's a you you have been delegated that access by the parent and that's legally speaking according

01:10:32.560 to the free court of canada so when you uh if so that's a a privileged position like the teacher's

01:10:38.920 codes of ethics call that a privileged position

01:10:41.980 to be able to be around the kids and all that.

01:10:45.260 And you're not allowed to use that privileged position

01:10:48.240 to advance your own interests,

01:10:50.720 including ideological interests.

01:10:52.860 And to go between the parent and the child,

01:10:54.960 where's the, something goes wrong?

01:10:56.920 Where's the liability?

01:10:57.900 Who's liable?

01:10:59.220 I mean, the teacher's not, they're never held accountable.

01:11:04.220 held accountable i mean right you know social workers they're not they're not held accountable

01:11:10.700 i mean unless a teacher actually you know bashes a kid on the head or something they're not

01:11:15.020 accused of any crime they're like exempt from liability yeah yeah so let's let's talk and we

01:11:22.300 we need to cover a couple more topics before we before we wrap this up so let's let's keep it

01:11:26.620 moving here uh you have the time do you okay awesome um so let's talk about sexual exploitation

01:11:34.780 of children um because you know we kind of alluded to the education and kind of just specifically

01:11:40.220 we're focusing on the relationship between teachers uh and students and how this it's

01:11:44.380 kind of muddying the waters in terms of what is private what should be kept from um parents

01:11:48.860 um but you know could you like if you had a parent in front of you and they were kind of

01:11:58.400 off in la la land they don't think anything is wrong and uh and you told them no like they're

01:12:05.520 they're they are sort of exposing kids to more sexual material at younger ages

01:12:11.520 they said no i don't believe you that's that's that's not happening i don't believe you

01:12:16.000 What would you tell a parent like that who didn't believe that that was happening?

01:12:20.280 Well, it would depend on, I mean, here in BC, teachers have something called professional autonomy, which allows them to determine how they're going to teach the curriculum and what resources they're going to bring in.

01:12:34.460 Resources means books, articles, videos, websites, assignments, anything.

01:12:40.080 so the way the laws have evolved or the policies evolved in bc teachers who are activists have

01:12:47.760 carte blanche to bring in whatever they want i mean i'm slightly exaggerating but not very much

01:12:52.920 so that's what's happening plus they've also pre-approved a bunch of materials that's a soji

01:12:58.380 123 resource list that has a lot of that many people would consider much of it inappropriate or

01:13:06.140 against their beliefs or unhealthy or whatever um and so because as a parent you you you have you

01:13:14.680 have no way of knowing when you put your child in school what they're going to be taught how it's

01:13:18.940 going to be taught who's going to do it or when there's no way to know because it's in bc the

01:13:23.880 curriculum is so loose and the teachers have so much autonomy to interpret it and they can bring

01:13:29.540 in whatever they want it's it's i mean you might have no problem whatsoever but i mean it's not

01:13:35.660 a teacher it's also the whole school like the principal or the whatever whoever puts up all the

01:13:39.660 the pride flags and all the other stuff and the posters and the stuff on the walls the displays

01:13:44.380 and all that i mean parents you know like sneak parents telling me you know they don't have seek

01:13:49.900 flags they got all these pride flags all over his kids grade two to class in in surrey which is a

01:13:55.500 lot of seeks live in surrey um so this they don't know what to do about it they get offended

01:14:02.220 sometimes they quit school sometimes they argue or they go as they go to a private school or they

01:14:06.080 but most people you know that's not an option you know and um financially and they've been told go

01:14:13.300 to go to a you know a christian school go to a private school you know but it's like that's just

01:14:17.600 you're not allowed to say that because those public schools are for everybody they are legally

01:14:21.720 required to include everybody everybody's supposed to be welcome and recognized and treated with

01:14:26.760 respect regardless of their religion or their belief or their color or their sexuality or

01:14:30.540 anything which is pretty hard to do um i mean really it's so diverse how do you accommodate

01:14:36.500 everybody well you run into problems because you have more conservative minded people who their

01:14:42.840 beliefs are that you know transgender isn't isn't even real it's it's it's like it's an abomination

01:14:47.940 so yeah but you also have to accommodate people who thinks transgenderism is a totally valid thing

01:14:52.980 and obviously you're going to run into conflict there yeah so i think they should accommodate all

01:14:57.200 think the public system you know the publicly funded learning system should accommodate all

01:15:01.600 and the way to do that is to one option is to have the parents get the full funding

01:15:07.840 as an option you know if you're happy at the school that's fine but if but if you want to

01:15:12.400 kind of like you know make your own education up for your kid you could hire tutors put them in

01:15:16.560 this school or for that thing or do your own learning or or i mean there's a lot of educational

01:15:20.880 materials and stuff where i live um there's a two music schools there's four martial arts studios

01:15:26.720 there's a math school there's another math there's there's tons of stuff in not for everybody but

01:15:32.080 there's a lot of resources around you don't need to go to school to get an education or you could

01:15:36.960 go to school or mix it up a bit but if the parents had was there an option to have the full funding

01:15:41.680 which is it's something like ten thousand or more dollars per year depending on where you are and

01:15:45.920 all the rest of it uh per kid that they could have that as an option and and they can you know

01:15:52.000 Right now, the state is supposed to be neutral.

01:15:57.800 It's not regarding beliefs and morality and religion.

01:16:00.500 The state, which includes the schools, is supposed to be neutral. 0.99

01:16:03.780 So they're not allowed to advance Christianity, which they used to do, 0.59

01:16:07.880 and they're not allowed to advance any other moral philosophy or belief system. 0.70

01:16:12.340 But they are.

01:16:13.180 They're aggressively promoting one particular set of beliefs,

01:16:17.780 this idea that everybody has a sexual orientation and gender identity.

01:16:21.260 that's a belief statement it's a contested belief statement not everybody accepts that

01:16:25.580 um but there you are the government's endorsing a particular belief set which we did in the past

01:16:32.300 with christianity and they need to um you know just stop doing that or or give us more options 0.90

01:16:40.700 yeah well i mean they're just massive hypocrites so let's get into bill c63 we're going to talk 0.69

01:16:45.760 about amanda todd the story of amanda todd because this bill does talk about how it's going to stop 0.73

01:16:50.460 all bullying gonna stop all the bullying that's ever happened but um first of all uh because we

01:16:57.780 were just talking about the the sexual stuff i mean how does it make you feel as a parent to see

01:17:03.460 that a liberal minister is presenting this bill that's going to protect kids online and and protect

01:17:08.420 them from sexual exploitation while this same government is rubber stamps sort of pride parades

01:17:14.500 where, you know, grown men will be naked in front of children

01:17:17.800 or rubber stamps the CBC drag kids

01:17:21.160 or when there's instances of very questionable

01:17:24.580 borderline pornographic material of minors having sex in schools,

01:17:29.760 which we presume is a great part of the education system.

01:17:33.980 How does it make you feel as a parent when this government

01:17:36.380 who's pushing or rubber stamping all this stuff

01:17:38.400 is also saying we're actually going to protect your kids

01:17:40.520 from sexual exploitation with this bill?

01:17:42.600 well it seems to be contradictory you're speaking out of both sides of your mouth i mean i just know

01:17:49.160 from all the other issues that they are not concerned with children's well-being and so when

01:17:53.120 they throw that out it's like oh really then why don't you know so it's um yeah if they're

01:18:02.960 i mean if parents want their kids to be sexualized i don't know there's actually

01:18:09.040 some restrictions on that in the law in the child protection law like you can't prostitute your

01:18:14.860 kids you can't have sex in front of your kids um yeah um but you can take them to the pride parade

01:18:22.580 yeah so well if that's i mean we have a very diverse society some people want to take their

01:18:27.240 kid to the pride parade but there there were there are public nudity laws uh and and for the

01:18:34.560 government again it's a government for to promote and endorse a particular um moral philosophy which

01:18:41.540 you could call that a moral philosophy it's you know you could call it sex positivism or whatever

01:18:46.720 they want to call it or relativism or whatever you want to call it it's a it's a moral philosophy

01:18:50.920 that the government is not allowed to promote a particular moral philosophy it's supposed to be

01:18:55.060 neutral so they can't just like endorsing one so being neutral what is what is being the state

01:19:03.340 being neutral actually look like. And yeah, I mean, I would, you know, parents make all sorts

01:19:08.720 of decisions about lots of things. And I don't agree with every parent's decision about everything

01:19:13.280 or my own decisions about everything either. But where does the, when the government starts,

01:19:19.860 it's so involved in all these issues. And it's like, maybe the government should tailor a bit

01:19:25.320 what it does. I mean, the government is, it's grown the realm, the realm, the sphere of the

01:19:32.780 government has massively expanded over the centuries and the decades and the years recently

01:19:39.160 so now the government is in all sorts of areas where it doesn't need to be let let i mean like 0.89

01:19:45.960 the same sex of the sex activists we're going to call it you know like the jehovah witnesses and

01:19:49.940 everybody else knock on your door and ask for a donation or put up their kiosk or have their uh

01:19:55.600 you know fundraisers or their bake sales or whatever they want why why are we um like the

01:20:01.140 government shouldn't be funding these organizations or promoting a particular belief set of any sort

01:20:06.740 sort because it's a very diverse country so what's up with that why do we have to jump up and down

01:20:12.180 and i mean if we had like you know seek flags or uh crosses all over you know public schools 0.99

01:20:20.420 i mean people would we would know now that that's that's inappropriate because you're promoting a

01:20:24.980 a particular belief set so making this making the the state neutral is actually very difficult

01:20:32.120 especially in the school system because in the school system you are going to talk about ideas

01:20:37.420 and history and all the rest of it so just give people more options like we're going to have a

01:20:42.660 school that's oh it's it's all pride another school that's no pride and school is half pride

01:20:48.220 or like we got three stripes of the rainbow but not all i mean i don't know but it's not they're

01:20:52.300 not interested in that um i mean i think teachers are and the public is but i don't think the

01:20:57.460 the powers of e are well you know i think the problem is there's always going to be a sort of

01:21:03.300 vacuum of morality and to say that one isn't more important than the other you know there's always

01:21:08.820 going to be something that comes out to be more powerful belief like you know you said hey we

01:21:14.920 should have a more sort of uh neutral system that's more secular and they people would argue

01:21:22.000 that we have that right now with the rainbow flag they would argue that the rainbow flag is

01:21:25.760 secular that the rainbow flag is not a moral not a moral imperative even though it clearly is but

01:21:30.700 but i agree with you but i'm just saying like people are under the impression that that's what

01:21:35.060 we have right now and it's like this great amazing thing um so i don't think it's like as easy as

01:21:39.980 just kind of making it neutral because you know i think what we're experiencing right now is a sort

01:21:45.820 of you know we're experiencing all of these social problems because of this sort of uh

01:21:52.420 corrupted version of morality that's being presented um by the government and they're

01:21:59.140 trying to kind of like you know mess with everything without sort of uh kind of robbing

01:22:03.880 us of our own sort of like um i don't know shared sort of social cohesion yeah that's the commons

01:22:11.500 the commons i mean the commons is the moral commons it's it's it's like when we've got

01:22:17.100 such diversity it's a lot harder um but you're not really trying at this point um i mean there's

01:22:24.360 i mean there's been places where people kick up a fuss because there's a whatever rainbow sidewalk

01:22:29.680 or something or and they say you know no rainbow sidewalks or else you got a rainbow side where

01:22:35.080 you got to have like all these other sidewalks or something like that right gotta have a seek

01:22:38.740 sidewalk gotta have a yeah you know a marxist sidewalk uh you know a you know a green whatever

01:22:44.740 all kinds of sidewalks but it's like like this just let's just not do that i mean if you want

01:22:49.460 to have your own sidewalk on your own house or something go right ahead but you're trying to use

01:22:53.460 the coercive power of the state and the the state's funding to push a particular thing and i mean one

01:23:01.220 reason they get away with it because people don't don't take legal action because they'll just walk

01:23:06.100 all over you i mean people just press push their agendas and and nobody really pushes back i mean

01:23:10.820 they get they get they argue they're protests but it's the legal action very carefully done legal

01:23:18.020 action to parents don't who knows what the state's supposed to be neutral people even know that the

01:23:22.260 teachers certainly don't know that i mean generally speaking i mean um they're supposed to respect

01:23:27.060 everybody of every you know race color religion all the rest of it and sexuality in their class

01:23:31.780 how do you do that i mean how do you do that um how do you include all i mean so if we're so

01:23:36.180 diverse it's actually inclusion it's it's almost maybe you can do math together maybe not maybe

01:23:41.780 so just let let the school system be more diverse like just let it be more diverse and let the

01:23:47.380 parents drive the education of their kids um you know but people some people want to use the

01:23:53.780 coercive power of the state to push their particular thing i mean the christians used to

01:23:57.940 do that um they've backed away from that more or less right um we've been forced to because of

01:24:04.580 legal action they had to stop doing christian stuff requiring non-christians do christian stuff

01:24:11.220 and now the tables have completely turned yeah where the people of this kind of rainbow flag

01:24:16.580 morality are starting to impose their will and their moral beliefs onto everybody uh with an

01:24:21.860 iron fist and that's what i really think uh bill c63 is it's just uh kind of dressed up with a lot

01:24:26.580 of uh rainbow and glitter as we're now getting very used to um generally what are your thoughts

01:24:32.420 on bill c63 have you have you given it or a read at all what's your kind of i wouldn't like to

01:24:38.660 comment because i haven't i mean i mean i understand the concern about child pornography

01:24:44.100 and all that kind of stuff that of course needs attention but what do you when they say they care

01:24:50.100 about kids that's why we're doing this it's like i don't believe you and why you're restricting

01:24:54.740 everything else um i just i just know that the government does not care about kids so whenever

01:24:59.860 they say that it's like why don't you why are you doing all these other things and why are you using

01:25:06.180 this this thing that you know is a genuine concern that many people well almost every every basically

01:25:12.180 almost everybody shares um to to suppress other kinds of speech and i mean the idea of hate speech

01:25:19.860 i mean i don't know uh it's so properly defined and it's it's like a potential hate speech what

01:25:26.820 does all that mean it's like i mean we're allowed to say anything it's yeah it's very it's very

01:25:31.860 messy but um you know as as an example i tweeted this uh there was this video going viral of this

01:25:38.980 dad kind of uh confronting these people basically saying hey i think you're filming my daughter at

01:25:44.900 the beach like can you stop doing that can you not do that what's wrong with you and they

01:25:49.700 it's a very weird video they act very guilty in it it looks like this guy tries to like delete

01:25:54.740 stuff off of his phone but um i made the sort of uh commentary that you know these creeps could

01:26:00.820 weaponize bill c63 to claim that this video is the video exposing them right here is actually

01:26:07.700 fomenting hatred against them to and insist that this video be taken down so even exposing

01:26:13.580 potential you know child pornographers uh they could use this legislation technically to um

01:26:20.820 you know to to hide this video so their faces aren't faces aren't out there they aren't suspected

01:26:26.620 of being uh you know preying upon children and you know there's a lot to get into in this bill

01:26:32.640 and you know we don't have to like spend too much time on that but um yeah i mean do you have do you

01:26:39.740 have any thoughts on? Like, have you heard this kind of

01:26:43.740 potentiality of how the bill could be used to, you know,

01:26:46.180 potentially?

01:26:49.620 Well, this idea that hate, I mean, you're trying to regulate

01:26:52.800 emotions. I mean, I mean, because it used to be where it's

01:26:57.320 your behavior, like if I hit you, or if I threatened to hit 0.99

01:27:00.800 you, you know, I say, I'm gonna hit you, I'm gonna kill you 1.00

01:27:03.960 that that is a that is a threat or an action. We didn't regulate 1.00

01:27:07.580 people's emotions like i mean you're allowed to hate people you're allowed to love them you're

01:27:11.940 like this i mean it's like this is an emotion it's and why you want to like fomenting hate i

01:27:17.560 mean i mean people feel emotions and you know they ought to regulate their own emotions but

01:27:23.220 the state isn't there to regulate our emotions um that's your own that's your your own responsibility

01:27:30.060 or whatever you're uh it's by you know i i don't i don't trust the government in this area i mean

01:27:38.460 we've got when they i mean we've got where i live there's we're not far from a basically it's a

01:27:45.100 brothel right well it is a brothel it's been there for years and it was there was more but

01:27:48.980 there are fewer now yeah a brothel yeah i mean yeah or uh no it's a brothel uh it's uh i think

01:27:57.860 they call them adult um like body massage parters or something like that oh right right it's a

01:28:03.980 problem a a rub and tug i believe they're called sometimes so so there's there was i mean there's

01:28:09.260 fewer than there were but there's still like a number just i mean i live in a like a very like

01:28:13.420 normal this is not a raunchy area of town it's very mainstream um but are you checking out who's

01:28:20.500 there like like the child the trafficking that's going on sex trafficking and all that

01:28:25.960 do you even know who's going in there or like women work there of how old are they um do you

01:28:33.620 care i mean do you check they only check if there's a complaint and there's no complaint i mean

01:28:39.560 it's it's and you know the trafficking issue is real i mean it's like it's it's uh like so now

01:28:46.940 you're gonna yeah and i think the major point is that the trafficking thing is real and the major

01:28:51.860 uh criminal behaviors happen in real life and it's only after the criminal behavior has happened

01:28:59.100 in real life that there is then a sort of you know maybe it gets exposed or talked about or

01:29:04.020 you know pornographic material illegal pornographic that's already illegal uh gets

01:29:08.880 shared online but uh that's that's a huge uh criticism of this bill that if you know if you

01:29:13.800 claim to really care about this stuff then uh why isn't there more sort of like in real life

01:29:18.720 sort of uh precautions that are being taken and i also criticize the bill as well because they you

01:29:23.980 know they're targeting big tech but they're not targeting uh you know the massive porn enterprise

01:29:29.640 that is headquartered in canada uh used to be called mind geek it's now called alo but i mean 0.90

01:29:36.060 i know that it has a uh is a reputation for being a refugee for child exploitation and trafficking

01:29:43.960 and all that because we're so slack about all these things so say that again i know canada has 0.85

01:29:49.720 a reputation for um you know being a child porn and trafficking kind of a friendly place because

01:29:56.040 we don't really enforce laws or we don't really have laws or it's i mean obviously sometimes the 1.00

01:30:00.600 police do a really good work but there's there seem to be kind of handicapped and i would love 1.00

01:30:06.280 to know more about this rabbit hole if you can give me any sort of breadcrumbs to i just i just

01:30:11.240 i just know i've heard that that i don't really have much of the research on that about what

01:30:17.560 canada's reputation internationally as a place where it's easy to to uh create sell distribute

01:30:26.520 child porn and trafficking things it's because we're because we don't have a very strong

01:30:31.080 enforcement or regulatory body to do i mean even this is stuff in the schools like the the books

01:30:36.840 that well it's not like it's it's pornographic is there's pictures of kids having sex drawings

01:30:43.480 not photographs and and the police well some parents have taken these books to the police and

01:30:51.160 it's like well that's so that's that's an educational material or something it's

01:30:56.120 i mean what like that's a pretty slack attitude towards these images which are images that are

01:31:02.440 are not supposed to exist images of children in sexual doing having sex or are there sexual parts

01:31:09.320 of their body are not supposed to be around but then it's educational or something like i mean i

01:31:15.720 don't know it's like how does this happen or is the rainbow colored haired person would say it's

01:31:19.560 like no this is actually a good thing because this is this is education right and uh i think you're

01:31:25.480 absolutely right there there is a lack of sort of i would even say moral character to a lot of uh

01:31:30.120 canadians and canadian institutions now where a police officer will just be like what do you

01:31:35.160 want me to do about it like i still got a few hours of my shift like what do you want me to

01:31:38.680 do about it and then on top of that we the major failure of our news media institution doesn't help

01:31:44.600 either because they're now subsidized by the government so they're not really interested

01:31:48.040 in exposing the uh um uh corruption the immorality the degeneracy of our institutions yeah well i

01:31:56.040 just heard this on the cbc radio this afternoon or um somebody was phoning in and complaining about

01:32:03.800 well no no it was sorry it was john rust and the new uh he's a conservative party leader here in bc

01:32:09.720 and he was saying that we're concerned about these things these kinds of books with these

01:32:14.200 kinds of pictures and images and stuff in the schools and the cbc uh interviewer was saying

01:32:20.440 what images where are those where's your evidence and it's like well the evidence is all over the

01:32:24.280 place it's just go to these websites and i mean the thing about child pornography is that you're

01:32:29.700 not supposed to have it like i can't put those pictures online because that's online and i can't

01:32:34.840 really show it to you because it's supposed to take it to the police the police it's it's um

01:32:38.200 it's an illegal substance legal content yeah yeah so i can't really show it to you um or if i do i

01:32:45.480 might be charged with something but yeah the cbc uh you know this has been a huge issue for a long

01:32:50.700 time now at least at least a couple years and then she said what is that i've never heard of

01:32:54.440 that like where's your evidence it's like where where have you been how about cbc drag kids the

01:32:59.980 cbc drag kids program that you guys find that's part of you know another cbc uh program how's that

01:33:06.380 for evidence encouraging kids to wear makeup and dance around sexualizing themselves in scantily

01:33:11.860 clad outfits cbc yeah no that's a typical argument of like oh never saw it no what are you talking

01:33:17.560 about that's not real and then you show it and it's like don't show that and it's like what

01:33:21.000 you're not allowed right yeah um okay there's i i sort of have to get going pretty quick here but

01:33:27.620 okay let's cover uh amanda todd yeah that's yeah so for those who don't uh remember let me bring

01:33:35.180 it up here amanda todd was a very sort of publicized uh unfortunate suicide of a 15 year

01:33:40.480 old and she made a video that essentially described uh she used a series of flashcards

01:33:46.780 to tell her experience of being blackmailed into exposing her breasts on webcam and of being

01:33:51.280 bullied and physically assaulted the video went viral uh after her death after she uh took her

01:33:56.960 own life that was back in 2012 um this her story is obviously being used to try and justify bill 0.97

01:34:04.360 c63 to say like hey this legislation is going to stop uh young women like amanda todd from

01:34:10.700 uh killing themselves what's your what's your sort of um opinion on that uh well amanda todd

01:34:19.840 um she was in bc right yeah she was in bc she was like in the just next in coquitland they're 0.95

01:34:27.260 not too far from where i am she she was bullied i mean that that happened it was a sexual predator

01:34:34.000 from i think it was the netherlands that that was um predating on her but she she was also

01:34:41.120 cyber bullied at school and because i am not too long before the mad at todd thing the bc

01:34:50.800 schools were required to have a code of conduct related to bullying um and so because they had

01:34:57.840 this code of conduct you can't you know treat somebody badly because of their sex or their age

01:35:02.960 or their gender or this or that or those other things um the school had no liability when she 0.96

01:35:10.480 was bullied at school because they had the code of conduct so we covered our asses and if amanda 1.00

01:35:17.280 was being bullied at school and cyber bullied by kids from school well that's too bad um she she's

01:35:26.320 i mean would this bill protect amanda i mean when you've you have a friend of mine has a daughter

01:35:33.840 who's in a not quite as extreme situation but yeah um the police are involved with that the same like

01:35:40.720 the same kind of issue uh i i i if you're if you've you've allowed you've you've encouraged kids

01:35:50.880 and to have what they call the sex positive thing in schools and to you expose kids to like

01:35:57.680 pornography in the schools maybe not always but in some situations you violated their boundaries

01:36:02.640 routinely routinely for from kindergarten on about what's private and what's not and then

01:36:08.640 this is gonna help uh i don't know it's like i don't know i just i i kind of i don't i don't

01:36:17.840 trust them because they haven't protected kids and they haven't they've done things that make

01:36:21.840 kids more vulnerable i mean they're they're breaking the parent child bound bound bond

01:36:27.280 they're attacking that they uh and then they this we're gonna we're gonna save you we're gonna save

01:36:33.600 you and i what's your legislation and why is it so broad and why don't you get on with other things

01:36:39.120 that that need to be done to to protect children and and you know i mean amanda wasn't a little

01:36:45.040 girl but she's 15 and 15 year old girls are very very very vulnerable and you've told them that

01:36:51.200 you've given them you've encouraged them to like to to think that they're not vulnerable

01:36:58.320 that you can make up your own mind you can do what you want it's your body your freedom your

01:37:02.080 whatever you can do what you want your parents they're probably wrong they don't know what

01:37:04.960 they're talking about you know trust trust this trust these total strangers and she was

01:37:10.640 easily misled and um yeah i mean and just making it easier to to yeah and i guess one obvious sort

01:37:19.920 of uh kind of criticism or hold a poke in bill c63 is you know how would this legislation stop

01:37:26.320 what happened to amanda todd from happening amanda todd was preyed upon by you said some 0.72

01:37:30.800 sexual predator from the netherlands some foreign predator presumably through a private chat room or

01:37:37.280 you know some sort of who knows uh it eventually turned into some you know private communication

01:37:43.680 which is not covered uh by the bill and uh you know this seems to be the sort of takeaway always

01:37:51.120 with bill c63 when you kind of dig into it it's like so how would that have been prevented with

01:37:56.400 with this piece of legislation and then there really isn't an answer well if it doesn't include

01:38:01.760 private communication because that's right that's typically how these sexploitation things happen

01:38:08.960 i mean i think in bc recently we had a a teenage boy took his own life after a very short exposure

01:38:17.600 to this exploitation situation some some gang or something in africa that's that's a sex-storting

01:38:24.800 young men boys that's uh it's because it's a private communication it's like well let's let's

01:38:32.980 talk about let's maybe take a step away from bill c63 for a second because when we were talking on

01:38:37.900 the phone you mentioned how uh in terms of kids health in general uh there's a lot of downward

01:38:44.240 trends that are that are really not healthy uh do we know where that's coming from and could you

01:38:48.980 going to give us a quick grocery list of the state of kids in Canada today?

01:38:55.140 Some people would say that it's, I mean, the increasing online time of all sorts is harming

01:39:02.400 emotional well-being, taking people out of face-to-face relationships. They're also

01:39:09.000 doing less physical activity. So you're just getting physically out of shape. That's been

01:39:15.540 downward trend for for years and years now um it's it's if you're well i don't know it's like

01:39:23.580 then they keep attacking to me the parent-child relationship is key and also you allow corporations

01:39:30.100 like like you know all these you know tech corporations like just you take it you're not

01:39:36.240 you're not protecting kids from these things like i feel there is a role for the government to

01:39:41.160 protect children like we have restrictions on you know drugs and alcohol and cigarettes and

01:39:46.220 driving and all sorts of things and kids are developing and they and you're you're just

01:39:51.660 letting the corporations do what just go for it you know I mean when a kid can just are you 13

01:39:59.220 you just have to say yes I mean what is that you know and advertising targeting children you've

01:40:04.620 Like it was in the 1980s under Ronald Reagan, they removed all advertising restrictions to children.

01:40:13.360 So you're letting the corporations just have their way with kids and there's no government sort of restrictions.

01:40:19.740 So it's up to the parents alone to kind of like fend off this massive pressure on the kids.

01:40:25.620 and parents you know we're not we we actually there is it does take a village to raise a child

01:40:31.840 in the sense that you're not you can't do it on your own if if you're fighting the school and the

01:40:37.220 government and the medical people and the advertising and the screens and all this it's

01:40:40.660 it's just going to go nuts it's like it's it's we don't have a i mean a society should function to

01:40:46.680 to uh protect children so they become like adults as healthy as possible and we're not doing that

01:40:53.380 and it's the degrading degrading the whole environment the the psychological environment

01:40:59.540 the relational environment um that children are raised in and sister up to the parents to do their

01:41:04.500 best and they're you know they're struggling i mean yeah you will see parents allowing their

01:41:10.020 their babies and their toddlers to be on screens and you'll i mean the corporations are making

01:41:16.180 devices and content specifically for very very young children that's like why do we allow that

01:41:21.780 like why why you know if you care about kids you'll say no we're just not going to do that

01:41:27.020 you're just not going to make content for little kids you're not going to sell like these cute sort

01:41:32.240 of you know little tablet things that are specially designed for little tiny kids like

01:41:36.400 what is that that's just like it's it shows you know we're you know sacrificing children on the

01:41:41.860 altar of the almighty buck yeah and it's and it is frustrating because there's so much working

01:41:48.000 against uh kids to thrive and have be mentally healthy um and a lot of it is like you said it's

01:41:56.160 corporatized it's mainstream you know 13 reasons why a netflix show that basically kind of glorified

01:42:02.720 childhood suicide if you want to talk about uh programs that are encouraging suicide because

01:42:08.140 this is another specific section of bill c63 and we also have a government that encourages suicide

01:42:13.920 with medical assistance and dying so it's it's obviously a little bit hypocritical to say that 0.87

01:42:21.080 hey although there's all this stuff you know out there that probably doesn't help with your mental

01:42:25.740 health don't worry we're going to censor the internet us the government is just going to

01:42:30.520 take you away from all the harms that are out there we're going to protect you from

01:42:34.300 everything forget about this down hood downward trend of childhood suicide uh you know we're

01:42:42.320 going to protect you with this bill that's going to give us a whole bunch of control it used to be

01:42:45.520 i mean it used to be the media kind of self-censored talk of suicide because it is a

01:42:52.160 contagion like people when you report on that we know that more people will commit suicide we know

01:42:58.480 that and so they they just didn't do that they was very you know minimal on that kind of reporting

01:43:04.360 because of you're gonna people are gonna die because you're reporting this stuff um so this

01:43:08.940 sort of like can we have some sense of propriety or concern for the well-being of others

01:43:14.860 in our in our way of dealing with these issues all right I appreciate your time so much Helen

01:43:20.920 I do want to ask just one last question whether it comes to bullying or whether it comes to

01:43:27.620 helping out a child's mental health like tell me about a positive solution that that you would love

01:43:33.780 to see uh if you had the keys to the castle and you could kind of you know make a policy or sort

01:43:39.040 of you know try to make a trend more popular with schools or with parents to to really try to help

01:43:46.020 their kids out with all this chaos going on restrict screen time the schools should not

01:43:51.860 be using screen time get rid of this um well they call the personal and social aspect of the

01:43:58.300 curriculum that's what they call it in bc where they're constantly asking personal questions

01:44:02.420 where the child becomes the curriculum just stop that or if parents want that let them have that

01:44:08.980 but you need to let parents have what they want and make it optional yeah make it up that if you

01:44:14.180 want your kid to be divulging all sorts of personal information you have that choice you have that

01:44:18.100 go ahead but but it shouldn't be the norm because it's the norm now spend more time with your kids

01:44:22.820 go walk with your kids teach them how to cook teach them how to clean teach hang out with the

01:44:26.500 dog you know go swimming together hug your kids love your kids um physically you know cuddle up

01:44:33.160 um it's parents need to know you're extremely important you might not feel important but

01:44:39.400 you are the number one influence and what is dr gordon neufeld leading developmental psychologist

01:44:46.760 parents are children's best bet parents are children's best bet and the teachers with all

01:44:51.960 dude respect you know like i'm a family full of teachers and that it's like you are you are you

01:44:57.800 are a delegate you are not you are not the one in charge and you need to have respect those

01:45:03.620 the propriety of your role your role is to do this you're not doing everything you are not uh there

01:45:09.680 to um you know create the child's identity or uh influence them with your particular moral

01:45:16.420 philosophy or religion or whatever you want to call it uh you re i mean you might not agree with

01:45:20.900 people but you know suck it up it's like we're a very diverse society and and you have to put up

01:45:27.460 with people who you disagree with and they're going to raise their children the way they would

01:45:31.200 like and you don't have the right you do not have the right to interfere with that parent child

01:45:34.800 relationship remember the residential schools and and what do you think about specifically bullying

01:45:41.100 like what's your kind of do you have like an anti-bullying sort of uh strategy or sort of yeah

01:45:46.320 well the the i mean children who are bullied because that's going to happen not to everybody

01:45:50.560 but to many kids at least in some degree sometimes severely the tighter the bond with the parent the

01:45:55.280 the closer the parent is the less likely the child is to actually uh harm themselves this is just how

01:46:02.720 it is uh so if your kid has a stronger sense of themselves and of the bond with the parent or

01:46:11.600 parent grandparents uncles whatever other adults who care about them they are less vulnerable to

01:46:17.360 the what can happen when you're bullied like to the self-harm and all that uh amanda todd was

01:46:24.240 clearly extremely vulnerable and and she was relying her relationships were all about the 0.84

01:46:29.120 internet and she seemed to lack relationships there was something not happening there for her

01:46:35.120 in terms of her connection to other to loving adults who could protect her kids kids are not

01:46:41.120 the ones who who raise kids the the system wants kids to be like peer mentors and you hang out

01:46:47.200 with the peers all the time it's like well you need to the peers need to you need to connect

01:46:52.800 the kids with the adults adults ones who are going to protect them from that kind of stuff

01:46:56.880 psychologically anyway and that's interesting you're saying a relationship with the parents

01:47:02.000 uh when in many ways the uh the system or the uh the school system and the government is encouraging

01:47:08.480 the opposite of that right um thanks so much for your time uh helen do you want to say anything

01:47:14.640 about kids first canada.org before we go yeah we're that's our at our email our website kids

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01:47:35.600 but we're we're doing some looking into taking we're taking legal action about some of these

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01:47:44.160 and yeah parents you are children's best bet and love your kids and connect with them as much as

01:47:50.660 possible thank you so much for your time helen and uh yeah we're gonna save free speech if you

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01:48:03.840 right on awesome thank you thank you greg all right we'll talk to you later okay bye bye

01:48:09.960 all righty then okay praise could you do me a favor and oh wait hold on hold on okay good

01:48:19.220 all right i was worried about that uh i'm like she's still live oh my god um hey that was good

01:48:25.920 that was a nice chat i um a lot of good clips in there a lot of good clips in there what did

01:48:32.840 you guys think hey we are going to save free speech in canada we are going to dismantle all

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01:48:51.300 anymore um yeah give send go.com slash save free speech here it is right there um yeah guys we're

01:49:01.480 going to make it happen we're going to do it it's uh it's very very exciting special thanks for

01:49:05.560 helen to be on the program we are going to react all right we're going to read this uh twitter

01:49:10.580 thread about um about about about we're going to read this twitter thread about um nato talking

01:49:20.640 about wanting to uh talking about wanting to um sorry talking about wanting to center the internet

01:49:30.660 but i really really really really really really really need to go to the bathroom i've been doing

01:49:36.220 this sort of uh the p dance for the past five minutes part of my language but we are going to

01:49:41.860 react to a mocha berzigan video while i go to the uh the little boys room here just give me a second

01:49:49.220 i'm gonna watch it on my phone while i run away here uh this has to do with the coots 4 case

01:49:55.140 and i'm interested i haven't watched this yet so hold on there we go volume up good

01:50:06.200 all right i'll be back in a second i'm outside litbridge courthouse here in alberta with the

01:50:14.020 breaking news on the coots four story nine years is what's being recommended for tony olinik and

01:50:21.160 Chris Carbert. What do you make of the latest developments? The men were found not guilty of

01:50:27.380 conspiracy to commit murder. But what do you make of Judge LeBrand's comments from Tuesday?

01:50:32.640 Yeah, it's very interesting. The lead up after the acquittal and the conviction. I mean,

01:50:38.240 they were acquitted of the serious charge aspiring to kill RCMP officers. And they were convicted of

01:50:44.900 the possession of weapons for a dangerous purpose, and the mischief.

01:50:49.660 Sentencing was set for today, tomorrow,

01:50:52.160 and we had some additional proceedings earlier this week.

01:50:57.380 But in between that and shortly after the acquittal and the conviction as a whole,

01:51:03.200 for them to appeal before sentencing feels like a bit of a message to the justice.

01:51:09.420 um no justice like no no justice is fond of their proceedings being appealed period so the crown i

01:51:18.820 feel the crown put the put a notice of appeal out to send a message to justice labrens that

01:51:25.120 take this into consideration that if you're sentencing doesn't fall in line with what we'd

01:51:31.600 like to see which is as we've heard this morning nine years for tony olianic and chris carver not

01:51:38.020 time served nine years so they would be remanded well indefinitely until an appeal or bail and such

01:51:44.360 i feel that the judge has heard this message and is acting on it tuesday's comments where

01:51:50.780 at tuesday's comments by the by justice lebran's where he throws out all of chris carver's

01:51:56.020 testimony calls the man a liar in relation to the events of of of coots and and the events

01:52:03.980 that led to these proceedings, this prosecution,

01:52:06.880 it seems very extreme.

01:52:09.240 It seems like a very sudden move by the justice,

01:52:12.520 and it reflects this narrative that I've just put out there.

01:52:17.000 It's quite clear what's happening here,

01:52:19.980 and tomorrow or later today,

01:52:22.640 there will be confirmation of exactly how malicious this prosecution really is.

01:52:29.700 The Crown, one way or the other,

01:52:32.760 even though they've been acquitted of the serious charge

01:52:35.280 to kill RCMP officers,

01:52:39.360 conspiring to kill RCMP officers, 0.88

01:52:41.360 they will utilize the additional charges

01:52:43.840 and try to maximize that sentence accordingly.

01:52:48.240 And that to me is a malicious prosecution

01:52:52.020 and it's a very unfortunate state of affairs here currently

01:52:55.680 in Lethbridge, Alberta.

01:52:57.200 Tomorrow is the big day and I will be here to cover it.

01:53:00.380 If you would like to support my independent journalism,

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01:53:12.500 that is insane um it actually kind of leaves me speechless

01:53:19.140 what would we do without people like uh like mocha here honestly to like because this is such an

01:53:27.500 outrageous story that should be even like international news i don't i wish i was more

01:53:35.300 versed in sort of how the law works but uh once again sounds like unprecedented stuff

01:53:43.680 with um the crown sort of threatening or

01:53:50.060 not threatening but sort of suggesting to the justice like hey we want to see something like

01:53:58.620 this um let's read this again the crown put a notice of appeal out to send message to justice

01:54:05.840 the brands that if your sentencing doesn't fall in line with what we'd like to see which is as

01:54:10.920 we've heard this morning nine years for tony olenek and chris carber i feel that the judge

01:54:15.700 has heard this message and is acting on it.

01:54:17.960 Tuesday's comments by Justice LeBrens,

01:54:20.180 where he throws out all of Chris Carver's testimony,

01:54:22.920 calling the man a liar,

01:54:24.280 seem very extreme and reflect this narrative.

01:54:27.000 I'm outside Litbury's courthouse.

01:54:29.660 Although the men were found not guilty of conspiracy,

01:54:32.980 they were found guilty of possessing a weapon

01:54:34.640 for a dangerous purpose and mischief over 5,000.

01:54:37.900 Tony was also found guilty of possessing

01:54:39.720 an explosive substance for a dangerous purpose,

01:54:42.020 despite the substance being located over 200 kilometers away from the coots blockade wow i mean

01:54:51.900 it's very much more of what we've already seen which is if you are somebody who

01:55:05.260 is opposing the government if you're somebody who is effectively opposing the government or

01:55:11.380 challenging what they're saying or pro at the wrong protest, then you're going to get treated

01:55:17.080 totally different. You're going to get treated totally different. The law is now just sort of

01:55:22.540 a suggestion. The law is not really firm. It's sort of a flimsy thing that the government is

01:55:27.920 going to bat around like a cat batting around a ball of yarn. Um, because you know, it's, it's,

01:55:37.280 it's just like why why all all of these laws are supposed to mean something right 0.98

01:55:41.980 they're supposed to mean something but uh no no it's if it makes the government look stupid then 0.96

01:55:51.200 you know all those rules are out the window 0.93

01:55:53.560 uh how are we feeling how are we feeling i think we're going to go through this uh

01:56:00.240 through this twitter thread about nato and how they have a sort of agenda to

01:56:06.240 censor the internet but uh how are we doing in chat here

01:56:11.060 trent dab says i think if these two men took the help we offered they would be out right now

01:56:20.180 were they offered help i haven't um i mean there's so much going on i haven't been keeping

01:56:26.940 up to date on

01:56:28.120 everything Hoots 4 related

01:56:31.160 but

01:56:33.800 I do want to say

01:56:37.400 of course if 1.00

01:56:38.280 support this guy Mocha

01:56:43.000 when you can

01:56:44.160 he's a cool guy he's one of the only

01:56:47.260 independent journalists in this country

01:56:49.020 that you can count on one hand

01:56:50.440 and yeah

01:56:52.960 plus I freebooted his content

01:56:55.100 so I want to shout him out of course

01:56:57.280 and I want to interview him too

01:56:59.500 soon in regards to Bill C63

01:57:01.920 because

01:57:02.600 yeah if there's anyone who's going to be targeted

01:57:05.740 unfairly with everything

01:57:07.840 that's in Bill C63 it's going to be an independent

01:57:09.860 journalist like this who is exposing

01:57:11.540 the insidious

01:57:13.520 and absurd corruption

01:57:14.960 in Canada

01:57:17.140 Sin City Captive says

01:57:21.960 guest said at the end

01:57:23.460 Needing healthy, loving guardians with someone suffering bullying in Amanda's case reminded me of Derek mentioning duplessis orphans, healthy Canadian children deemed mentally ill.

01:57:36.880 I don't even know what that is.

01:57:41.580 Is that too loud?

01:57:46.660 I guess I'll look that up. 0.50

01:57:53.460 jeets are trying to get mocha deported no way that's i mean i guess that sounds about par for 0.96

01:58:05.900 the course oh my god this sounds so spicy holy crap

01:58:17.540 derek rance is always on top of like the craziest parts of canadian history that no one's heard

01:58:26.820 about duplesis duplesis orphans the duplesis orphans were a population of canadian children

01:58:34.460 wrongly certified as mentally ill by the provincial government of quebec and confined to

01:58:39.600 psychiatric institutions in the 40s and 50s many of these children were deliberately

01:58:45.000 mis-certified in order to acquire

01:58:47.120 additional subsidies from the federal government

01:58:49.320 they are named

01:58:51.060 for Maurice

01:58:52.360 Duplessis

01:58:53.800 who served as premier of Quebec

01:58:56.880 for five non-consecutive

01:58:59.440 terms between 36 and 59

01:59:01.340 the controversies associated with

01:59:03.120 Duplessis in particular the corruption and abuse

01:59:05.260 concerning the Duplessis orphans

01:59:06.520 have led to the popular historic conception of his

01:59:09.220 term as premier as

01:59:10.240 Le Grand Noceur

01:59:14.020 The great darkness, holy, the grand, la grande noirceur,

01:59:22.540 refers to the regime of conservative policies undertaken by the governing body of Quebec.

01:59:30.780 The Duplessis orphans have accused both the government of Quebec and the Roman Catholic Church of wrongdoing.

01:59:37.500 The Catholic Church has denied involvement in the scandal

01:59:40.260 and disputes the claims of those

01:59:42.440 seeking financial compensation for harm done,

01:59:44.600 as you can imagine.

01:59:45.640 We didn't do it.

01:59:46.580 Don't fine us.

01:59:49.260 It is believed to be the largest case of child abuse

01:59:53.120 in Canadian history

01:59:53.960 outside of the Canadian Indian residential school system.

01:59:57.620 Very interesting.

02:00:04.180 Duplessis orphans.

02:00:06.360 Let's see if there's a TikTok about it.

02:00:10.260 Oh, by the way, we're on TikTok now.

02:00:34.600 Say Free Speech is on TikTok if you're curious.

02:00:40.260 um

02:00:45.980 I know I'm just typing away

02:00:50.620 what's he doing

02:00:51.260 what's he doing

02:00:52.740 Duplessis

02:00:53.580 Duplessis

02:00:54.240 you ever hear that theory

02:00:55.120 it's probably the one theory

02:00:56.440 that's

02:00:56.800 whoa whoa whoa

02:00:57.280 chill

02:00:57.660 Duplessis

02:01:00.680 orphans

02:01:03.180 uh

02:01:08.400 I'm not seeing anything here

02:01:10.060 Did I spell it right?

02:01:21.660 Okay.

02:01:29.220 Okay.

02:01:29.740 Yeah, that's the same spelling.

02:01:38.620 Okay, let's go to YouTube.

02:01:40.060 Nothing, nothing on TikTok at all.

02:01:49.660 Okay.

02:01:52.080 A couple of videos.

02:01:56.980 Let's watch these.

02:02:01.440 Oh yeah, we are on,

02:02:03.220 we are on

02:02:07.280 tiktok at

02:02:08.680 savefreespeech.ca is our tiktok

02:02:11.480 we'll be posting

02:02:13.260 all of our content there and other stuff

02:02:14.960 if you guys are on the Chinese spy app

02:02:17.200 then yeah

02:02:18.560 which one should we watch here

02:02:20.740 this is cbc

02:02:23.180 nothing too long

02:02:29.680 it's kind of shorter stuff

02:02:31.740 let's watch the cbc one

02:02:32.920 Turn this music off.

02:02:38.060 Do Pless's orphans find connections overseas?

02:02:48.660 I don't know if I have connections overseas.

02:02:54.460 Now, let's do this one.

02:02:56.400 Let's see what the Montreal Gazette has to say.

02:02:59.680 And we're back.

02:03:00.660 The team is looking down the barrel of a 455.

02:03:03.180 Amazing.

02:03:03.740 We love advertising.

02:03:06.100 We love it.

02:03:11.200 Lampshade Etiquette says, love your content.

02:03:13.160 You're a gem, dude.

02:03:13.920 Thanks.

02:03:14.260 Appreciate it.

02:03:14.940 Appreciate it.

02:03:16.980 My father-in-law was there.

02:03:18.740 Everything was hush-hush.

02:03:21.280 Was your father-in-law Duplessis Orphan or something?

02:03:26.220 Stranger Things or Dante's Inforno, says Sin City.

02:03:29.120 One More Quarter says

02:03:31.320 Excellent conversation earlier

02:03:32.540 Much thanks to the both of you

02:03:33.740 Take care out there

02:03:34.600 Rick Rock

02:03:35.880 Said Wallbanger

02:03:37.660 That's funny

02:03:38.220 Alright let's listen to this

02:03:42.700 Duplessis Orphans

02:03:45.180 Albertine Allard is 82

02:03:51.060 In 1937 at age 8

02:03:53.660 She became a patient at St. Julien Hospital

02:03:56.360 She would not leave until she was 38

02:03:59.100 1937, at age 8, she became a patient at Saint-Julien Hospital. She would not leave until she was 38.

02:04:09.100 She was in a hospital for 30 years.

02:04:13.100 Today, she lives with two other ex-patients in a foster home run by Luc Allard and his wife.

02:04:21.100 Yvon Lamotte worked at the hospital for 32 years.

02:04:28.100 He's one of a group of residents who want to save the hospital from demolition.

02:04:38.100 This singing in the background is very creepy.

02:04:43.100 It's throwing me off.

02:04:47.100 Across the road, children who died at the hospital are buried.

02:04:51.840 Other former patients want to see the hospital raised to the ground.

02:04:58.720 Albertine likes to sing her own version of a Catholic hymn

02:05:02.260 where she calls herself a malade libéré, a freed patient.

02:05:17.100 Okay, that was just kind of scratching the surface.

02:05:36.780 It's, I'm starting to get, I'm starting to suspect that there's not many deep dives on this topic.

02:05:47.100 which it sounds like a crazy story sounds like another crazy Canadian story of government

02:05:56.700 corruption that's known that not many people have heard about it reminds me of my normie

02:06:04.100 friends who are always like oh man Canadian politics is so boring and it's like it's really

02:06:11.120 a not. It's really

02:06:12.860 a not. There's just not many people

02:06:14.980 who are telling a very

02:06:17.080 captivating story about it

02:06:18.580 or a captivating enough story

02:06:20.920 about it.

02:06:28.000 Yeah, what the...

02:06:29.680 Canada's dark secret? 0.99

02:06:35.140 This is just residential 0.72

02:06:36.840 schools, I think.

02:06:37.920 catholic scandals again this is a short one anyway this is good this is good stuff to know

02:06:46.140 okay we're at two hours here so let's go to this uh let's get to this twitter thread already

02:06:50.500 and uh read truett um or maybe i should yeah let's talk about this actually real quick

02:06:58.960 actually no i should i shouldn't let the shirt the sugar high hits me

02:07:03.200 let's read this stuff

02:07:06.240 where is it

02:07:14.480 come on

02:07:17.740 come on now it's over here

02:07:19.540 boom

02:07:20.020 all right

02:07:27.340 so yeah this came across my feed the other day censoring the internet is a nato initiative

02:07:36.460 the pro nato conservative party supporting bill c63 or

02:07:40.740 oh the pro i can't even read my own tweet the pro nato conservative party supporting

02:07:47.700 bill c63 or something similar is very realistic

02:07:50.300 i should have put this sentence backwards i'm in writing mode right now it's very realistic

02:07:57.460 that the pro nato conservative party would support bill c63 or something similar

02:08:01.060 that's how you should have read it uh read it um i mean it goes without saying that uh

02:08:07.360 when it comes to online censorship and big tech uh the guy who owns telegram recently got arrested

02:08:14.900 in uh france and then got released recently but he's still being held in france the last report

02:08:23.400 i heard on that is that he was invited to france by uh macron so yeah i mean i haven't been keeping

02:08:34.320 close tabs on that but it's certainly relevant to the conversation of uh free speech and censorship

02:08:39.920 online if the guy on a free speech platform like telegram which has been largely unmolested

02:08:45.940 by uh censorship like i mean i'm sure i'm sure there's probably some shadow banning and things

02:08:50.880 going on but um telegram was like so important during covid um telegram was one of the only

02:09:01.440 platforms that uh i mean there was a time during lockdowns where i was just looking at like the

02:09:09.900 different diagonal on channels i would just like open up ferryman's um you know telegram feed to

02:09:16.960 find out what the fuck was going on or some other people that i was following at the time

02:09:20.220 and that's really all we had you'd be centered on twitter this is before elon on twitter so like 0.75

02:09:25.540 twitter twitter was censored everything was totally censored

02:09:29.640 i think i was even going i was going on on gab at that time as well if i'm not mistaken

02:09:36.240 you couldn't find anything

02:09:37.460 alright let's

02:09:42.540 read this Twitter thread

02:09:43.760 let's wrap it up for the night

02:09:45.520 come on

02:09:46.180 alright

02:09:51.940 NATO 2030 toward a new

02:09:54.000 strategic concept

02:09:55.040 that concept being

02:09:57.880 social media censorship to protect

02:09:59.620 its political center of gravity

02:10:01.640 what an interesting concept

02:10:03.980 well that's pretty

02:10:05.920 small eh

02:10:06.580 i don't know if that's much better

02:10:12.740 war by other means this is from chapter 13 securing nato against disinformation

02:10:21.180 disinformation fake news and since the covet 19 pandemic erupted in 2020 infodemics have been

02:10:28.500 added to the vocabulary of societies across the world often conflated with other terms including

02:10:33.020 misinformation tainted leaks and propaganda disinformation is the use of false or manipulated

02:10:39.580 information to distort the truth we can trust and undermine democratic discourse and practices

02:10:44.420 this is all very much the same kind of globalist language that justin trudeau would say you know

02:10:52.200 it's undermining the democratic discourse you mean you mean it's exposing the uh corrupt governments

02:10:58.600 that are in place i could see why that would be um a threat to your rule to your false um authority

02:11:09.160 okay for nato a defensive military alliance based on collective defense an attack against one is an

02:11:20.520 attack against all that is that's very oh man an attack against one is an attack against all

02:11:28.240 except for russia right you're allowed to you know nada who nada who is like exists to oppose 0.98

02:11:34.600 russia you know you're allowed to shit on russia as much as you'd like uh the attack against one 0.82

02:11:39.660 except for russia is an attack against all this information has until recently been rarely 0.98

02:11:44.480 discussed much less considered oh it's also worth mentioning for those who don't know

02:11:49.480 uh i just realized the connection here telegram is owned by a russian guy i'm pretty sure this

02:11:55.000 guy's Russian. He's from Russia. Um, yeah. So anyway, now we're talking about NATO article

02:12:03.040 two of the North and North Atlantic treaty, however, underscores that peaceful and friendly

02:12:07.980 international relations come not from military strength alone, but strong and free member state

02:12:14.500 institutions and an understanding of the principles behind them. Disinformation, which is part of

02:12:20.000 broader malign influence operations directly threatens these principles and institutions

02:12:27.200 its acceleration in recent years has brought disinformation onto the transatlantic agenda

02:12:32.900 i'm i mean what is this it's so hard to even make any sense of what they're saying

02:12:38.340 disinformation which is part of a broader malign influence operation directly threatens these

02:12:42.100 principles and institutions

02:12:44.300 at the operational level

02:12:49.840 disinformation could increasingly probe

02:12:51.880 and erode NATO's defense and

02:12:53.820 deference at the state

02:12:55.680 at the strategic level

02:12:57.260 long-term information operation

02:12:59.520 there narrative

02:13:00.040 how old is this

02:13:08.640 because I mean it makes

02:13:11.240 it makes sense that this is coming out when everyone is critical of leaders for just sending

02:13:16.140 so much money to ukraine right you know people are being critical of sending all like billions

02:13:21.480 of dollars to ukraine and people are complaining about it as they should and now nato is like we

02:13:27.360 need to stop disinformation nato's enduring purpose could weaken solidarity and cohesion

02:13:34.200 oh okay sorry that's from the previous thing right 219 yeah 289 so let's do that whole

02:13:44.120 sentence together at the operational level disinformation could increasingly probe and

02:13:48.360 erode nato's defense and deference at the at the strategic level long-term information operations

02:13:54.420 and narratives skeptical of nato's enduring purpose could weaken solidarity and cohesion

02:14:00.860 To protect its political center of gravity, NATO should crystallize where disinformation fits among the multiplicity of threats likely facing the alliance in the emergent security environment, and then further evolve its approach to countering disinformation.

02:14:19.620 All right.

02:14:21.420 Sounds like it's going to be censoring the Internet.

02:14:23.040 the threat of disinformation disinformation is used strategically to challenge the very

02:14:26.840 foundations of liberal democracy and of transatlantic relations by affecting political

02:14:32.660 decision-making societies and the very functioning of democratic institutions this whole thing is

02:14:38.220 so uh you know it really is the doublespeak they talk so much about democracy and they use this

02:14:46.420 code word disinformation of people who dissent it's not disinformation it's dissent it's people

02:14:52.460 who disagree with the NATO agenda.

02:14:55.660 It's dissenters.

02:14:57.520 Let's read that.

02:14:58.060 Let's read.

02:14:58.940 Let's read.

02:14:59.780 Let's replace disinformation with dissent

02:15:02.280 as in differing opinions

02:15:03.660 than what our agenda is.

02:15:05.960 The threat of dissent.

02:15:08.660 Dissent is used strategically

02:15:10.480 to challenge the very foundations

02:15:12.240 of liberal democracy

02:15:13.660 and of transatlantic relations

02:15:16.300 by affecting political decision-making societies

02:15:18.980 and the very functioning

02:15:20.140 of democratic institutions.

02:15:22.460 Yeah. And of course, the irony there is dissent is supposed to be freely and freely celebrated in a democratic society.

02:15:33.220 But they've just kind of reframed dissent as disinformation.

02:15:38.680 Political warfare and disinformation or dissent allow authoritarian regimes to present the authoritarian governance model.

02:15:46.420 And during COVID-19, it's crisis management as a superior alternative to democracy.

02:15:51.180 and there's a source here 0.99

02:15:53.080 that's fucking crazy 0.99

02:15:56.380 political warfare and disinformation 1.00

02:15:58.240 allow authoritarian

02:16:00.560 regimes

02:16:01.440 to present the authoritarian governments

02:16:04.180 I'm so 1.00

02:16:06.600 tired of shit like 1.00

02:16:08.540 this man 1.00

02:16:09.080 it never stops

02:16:11.460 and it's like

02:16:13.160 this isn't some blue haired freak talking about this

02:16:16.280 this is NATO

02:16:17.120 this is NATO

02:16:20.340 talking about this saying you guys need to worry about the authoritarian regimes by the way we're

02:16:25.640 going to control everything that you're that you're saying and thinking uh anything that is

02:16:30.420 disagreeing with us is now disinformation and uh you must be silenced because it's going to

02:16:36.040 challenge our agenda it it really is i mean it's so trite to bring up 1984 but like it really is

02:16:42.340 this sort of inverted language that's going on you need to worry about the authoritarian regimes

02:16:49.580 out there someone actually i think it was um should i get the clip how long will it take me

02:16:54.800 to find that clip yeah no i'm too lazy to find the clip the clip is uh the clip is the guy from

02:17:07.600 the clip is the guy from uh trigonometry and he's on a chat with somebody and they say

02:17:17.980 how many people in Russia

02:17:20.620 do you think got arrested

02:17:22.420 for posting online

02:17:24.560 and they're like I don't know

02:17:26.760 and the person said 300

02:17:28.580 or whatever it was

02:17:29.880 and then he said do you know how many people

02:17:32.540 got arrested for posting online

02:17:34.420 in the UK

02:17:35.260 and I'm pretty sure the number was like 3400

02:17:39.040 way more people are getting arrested

02:17:42.500 for speech in the UK

02:17:44.680 than Russia

02:17:45.920 who's the authoritarians who are the bigger authoritarian countries at this point you know

02:17:51.540 this whole democracy thing is so it's such a farce at this point especially whenever it's like

02:17:57.080 used by nato or the un or globalist politicians but um you guys know this already you guys know 0.97

02:18:06.520 this already i'm just i'm just beating the same old fucking dead horse at this point 0.57

02:18:09.640 it's a classic we need to protect democracy tropes as edgy dtv yeah exactly edgy dtv says 0.93

02:18:18.460 protecting it by taking away people's voices and putting them in jail right right right that's right

02:18:24.300 that's how we protect democracy we we protect democracy by throwing those who disagree with

02:18:29.640 us in jail that's what democracy is we have to we have to stop the authoritarians that's the only

02:18:35.540 way to stop the authoritarians i mean on the plus side this seems like pretty easy to explain to

02:18:44.520 people how fake this is so i'm you know i'm feeling good for our side because i feel like

02:18:49.120 they're they're trying to like they're they're using the same lies for like years and years

02:18:54.200 and it's like it's been decades these lies are running out of gas okay these lies are running

02:19:00.340 out of gas people are not going to be buying into this anymore um let's continue with this

02:19:06.800 uh nato agenda worryingly various actors within democratic societies and nato members are also

02:19:16.380 turning to disinformation and information suppression to advance their political goals

02:19:22.380 domestically this is just so it's it's so transparent it's like hey people are disagreeing

02:19:31.460 with us and they have different political goals than us we need to do something about that

02:19:35.460 that's kind of what's interesting about this globalist language isn't it it's like

02:19:39.740 you can basically make a report that tells you exactly what you're going to do we are going to

02:19:46.160 censor the internet we are going to censor everyone we disagree with but you just kind of like use

02:19:50.800 Different language

02:19:51.960 And kind of invert the definition of things

02:19:55.040 Like disinformation is actually dissent

02:19:57.280 We're the

02:19:59.040 Authoritarian regime

02:20:00.040 When we say democratic ruling

02:20:02.300 We're actually talking about our authoritarian rule

02:20:04.740 They're a threat to our authoritarian rule

02:20:07.720 It's all backwards

02:20:08.600 Just use this reference card

02:20:11.200 And then you'll be able to decode what we're doing here

02:20:13.200 We're trying to silence everybody who disagrees with us

02:20:15.120 Let's read this whole paragraph

02:20:18.860 can you guys see that okay yeah scroll up a bit okay oops a prominent tool of political warfare

02:20:28.940 during the cold war soviet campaigns of active measures and desinformase disinformase

02:20:34.780 sentasia propaganda and disinformation went under the radar for the better part of the past 30 years

02:20:40.840 in the west the kremlin's military aggression in ukraine illegal annexation of crimea in 2014

02:20:46.360 revealed Russia's use of information as

02:20:48.460 a weapon

02:20:48.900 amplified and strengthened by modern

02:20:52.380 technologies, social media

02:20:54.680 and a revamped state

02:20:56.000 and a revamped state media apparatus.

02:21:03.320 You know who else

02:21:04.600 has a state media

02:21:06.480 apparatus?

02:21:08.180 Canada does. We subsidize

02:21:10.680 the news here. Just like

02:21:12.740 Russia and China 0.81

02:21:14.480 and North Korea. Isn't that cool?

02:21:16.360 disinformation campaigns became a central tool for denying justifying and supporting its actions

02:21:23.060 in ukraine it created an alternate reality meant not only to obscure russia's involvement but also

02:21:29.080 to completely discredit the i think we're out i think we're out of the

02:21:35.240 let's see what's the next tweet

02:21:40.720 is this the same page

02:21:44.240 okay no this is different we didn't we didn't get the rest of the sentence oh well

02:21:50.400 NATO's approach to disinformation since its founding NATO's approach to countering disinformation

02:21:54.980 has evolved alongside the threat environment the alliance has always recognized that security

02:22:00.220 and stability derived from military as well as non-military means but has historically

02:22:04.660 prioritized the former over the latter it took several years and the proliferation of direct

02:22:10.220 disinformation attacks against NATO

02:22:12.240 for the alliance to recognize the threat

02:22:14.480 and begin

02:22:15.680 operationalizing a response, an

02:22:18.340 ongoing process that continues today.

02:22:21.000 During the Cold War, NATO

02:22:22.140 prioritized conventional defense

02:22:23.800 and deterrence, and

02:22:26.220 only tangentially considered disinformation.

02:22:30.380 I'm just going to do the highlighted bits now.

02:22:32.360 After the

02:22:33.380 dissolution of the Soviet Union,

02:22:36.680 the conventional military balance

02:22:38.500 shifted in NATO's favor.

02:22:40.220 The alliance began focusing on non-military threats, although not always disinformation.

02:22:45.260 The 2014 Wales Summit Declaration suggested enhancing strategic communications to counter hybrid threats without naming disinformation.

02:22:57.220 NATO's current strategic concept likewise excludes disinformation from its list of conventional threats.

02:23:03.000 while nato was quick to enhance conventional defense and deterrence alongside the eastern

02:23:10.080 flank after 2014 there was insufficient support within the alliance to similarly adapt its

02:23:15.020 non-military means blah blah blah most recently the nato 2030 initiative was launched at the 2019

02:23:22.420 london summit and on the heels of president of france emmanuel macron calling the alliance

02:23:27.100 brain dead to further strengthen nato's political dimension this was a forewarning of sorts that

02:23:33.660 nato's non-military malaise could have wider consequences oh god the future is here questions

02:23:42.080 about the evolution of the disinformation threat strike at the core of nato's political mandate

02:23:45.980 as a military alliance and its ability to access and respond net war net war has changed the nature

02:23:53.400 of conflict wait will this make it bigger oh there we oh there we go there we go yeah baby

02:24:00.200 um net war has changed the nature of conflict with profound implications for disinformation

02:24:10.360 disinformation and a more general manipulation of the information space through political

02:24:15.080 economic technology cyber or social engineering tools have emerged in the past decade as profound

02:24:20.120 mutations in the way we understand security i guess i can't uh damn i can't scroll up for you

02:24:30.180 guys oh sorry i'm just gonna keep reading uh social media has changed not just the message

02:24:39.320 but the dynamics of conflict second disinformation and digital deception are used in the battle to

02:24:45.540 achieve cognitive and behavioral outcomes

02:24:47.740 in societies. National

02:24:49.640 militaries are reorienting

02:24:51.040 to also face information warfare. Significantly

02:24:53.860 domestic politics

02:24:55.220 has also recorded around 0.68

02:24:56.960 reordered around the ability to create

02:24:59.580 and influence or manipulate

02:25:00.980 online constituencies.

02:25:03.860 Mm-hmm.

02:25:10.600 Online

02:25:11.440 constituencies.

02:25:15.540 political actors in most countries whether democratic or not now rely on troll armies

02:25:21.040 whoa this is getting good political actors in most countries whether democratic or not

02:25:26.080 now rely on troll armies and digital influencing campaigns to alter democratic processes 0.99

02:25:32.240 what the fuck 0.99

02:25:34.320 here's a thought here's a thought if you don't dehumanize the trolls maybe you could say that 1.00

02:25:52.980 these are actually just citizens of that national country participating in democracy

02:26:00.180 they're sharing their version of reality

02:26:02.580 they're sharing their opinion

02:26:03.780 this is a threat to democracy 0.98

02:26:06.400 all of these trolls

02:26:07.440 no it's your citizens voicing an opinion on something

02:26:10.680 what do you mean

02:26:12.700 trolls

02:26:13.340 you're just dehumanizing opinions 0.97

02:26:16.540 you don't like on the internet

02:26:17.800 this is nuts

02:26:21.000 political actors in most countries

02:26:24.900 whether democratic or not

02:26:26.520 now rely on troll armies

02:26:28.600 and digital influencing campaigns

02:26:32.640 to alter democratic processes.

02:26:37.800 How is, I mean, calling it,

02:26:40.560 they try to just dehumanize this practice

02:26:43.840 saying it's a troll army influencing campaigns.

02:26:47.560 What's the difference between a democratic campaign

02:26:51.000 and a troll campaign?

02:26:52.200 At the end of the day,

02:26:53.340 it's going to be American citizens pushing for something online.

02:26:58.600 but no no no the troll army is going to affect the democratic process yeah this shift is domestic

02:27:04.620 this shift in domestic political debate also has an impact on the alliance's internal functioning

02:27:11.000 as political actors in some member states are increasingly utilizing information and digital

02:27:16.240 manipulation they are not only departing from principles and values nato is built upon and

02:27:23.120 clearly outlined under article 2 of the nato charter but are also creating additional avenues

02:27:27.560 for malign foreign actors

02:27:29.440 to infiltrate democratic societies

02:27:31.000 and weaken them from within. 0.96

02:27:33.620 What the hell?

02:27:34.740 Like, democracy does not mean anything anymore

02:27:37.660 in this NATO report.

02:27:43.860 They're trying to influence things.

02:27:46.200 That's a threat to democracy.

02:27:47.460 So people pushing for their ideas

02:27:50.280 is a threat to democracy?

02:27:51.420 That's the whole premise of democracy. 1.00

02:27:54.480 This shit is so exhausting. 1.00

02:27:56.660 it's so exhausting to read through this shit 1.00

02:27:58.880 third authoritarian nations attempt to 0.99

02:28:07.560 polarize and weaken national security structures diminish trust

02:28:11.620 in alliances and thus hamper the cohesion and effectiveness of national

02:28:15.540 and supranational defense structures uh yeah

02:28:19.580 they're trying to there's a lot of translation there's a lot of

02:28:23.560 nationalistic people who have political or are gaining political power and they're saying hey 0.97

02:28:30.320 fuck all of these united nations these globalist uh you know alliances let's just look after our 0.97

02:28:36.180 own country let's not spend let's not send billions of dollars to ukraine in a war that's 1.00

02:28:41.600 just a bloodbath that isn't going to change anything

02:28:44.820 authoritarian nations attempt to polarize and weaken national security and the implication

02:28:53.480 here is that

02:28:54.460 you know, nationalists in

02:28:57.420 western countries

02:28:58.360 aren't nationalists in western countries

02:29:01.080 that's just disinformation, that's literally

02:29:03.180 just Russia puppeteering us

02:29:04.960 which is precisely the

02:29:07.260 narrative that came from

02:29:09.500 you know, about the trucker convoy

02:29:11.460 I'm pretty sure even Gerald Butts was like

02:29:13.480 parroting this idea that it's like

02:29:15.220 oh well people are online and they're getting manipulated

02:29:17.240 by Russian bots to like care about their own country

02:29:19.560 it's authoritarian 0.61

02:29:20.940 yeah

02:29:21.860 Anti-NATO narratives and conspiracies are an important tool in the arsenal of digital manipulation campaigns undertaken by pro-Kremlin groups.

02:29:39.560 Well, there you go.

02:29:40.880 Either you're pro-NATO or you're pro-Kremlin.

02:29:43.700 There is no in-between.

02:29:45.140 It's impossible to be a Canadian citizen who just doesn't like your money going to Ukraine.

02:29:50.000 that just means that you love 0.95

02:29:51.440 that you love the current Hitler 0.78

02:29:53.920 which is Putin 0.65

02:29:55.820 NATO is portrayed

02:29:58.140 as an alliance that fosters

02:29:59.760 insecurity rather than protect its members

02:30:02.140 it is depicted as an

02:30:04.060 extension of the US military industrial

02:30:05.780 complex I mean they're the biggest

02:30:08.280 is that the end of that one yeah

02:30:11.800 I mean the US military

02:30:13.720 is the biggest contributor

02:30:16.120 to NATO if I'm not mistaken

02:30:17.640 I haven't been reading the captions

02:30:20.880 yeah these are good captions

02:30:27.460 during the cold war we prioritized conventional military

02:30:29.820 but in the social media age we're losing our political support

02:30:32.220 because people spread quote anti-nato narratives and conspiracies online

02:30:35.500 so we need to think of war as stopping our own citizens

02:30:38.300 from speaking freely online

02:30:40.060 by the way this guy is a executive director

02:30:44.500 of

02:30:45.260 what is this

02:30:47.260 foundation for freedom online

02:30:50.840 I just started following them recently but

02:30:52.740 he is a

02:30:54.800 Mike Benz is a former

02:30:56.620 state department cyber

02:30:58.120 security author of the

02:31:00.540 unpunishable monstrosity

02:31:02.440 weapons of mass

02:31:04.560 deletion interesting

02:31:06.240 because of our own citizen alright let's read

02:31:08.580 this we need to switch our censorship focus from

02:31:10.540 external enemies to our own citizens

02:31:12.460 great an increasing

02:31:14.700 risk for the transatlantic alliance also comes

02:31:16.700 from within. The landscape

02:31:18.840 of disinformation is changing from identifiable

02:31:20.960 external enemies to blurred boundaries

02:31:22.880 between foreign state, non-state,

02:31:24.820 and domestic actors, making attribution

02:31:26.640 and response increasingly more difficult.

02:31:29.440 They hate nationalism,

02:31:30.880 man. They hate

02:31:32.980 patriots.

02:31:34.880 Like, NATO just

02:31:36.640 hates it. Oh, man.

02:31:38.880 Because our own citizens talk badly

02:31:40.880 about us online, we need to treat their tweets

02:31:42.740 as a theater of war.

02:31:44.460 We need to remove the basic distinction

02:31:45.960 between peace and war.

02:31:47.500 We must preserve our political mandate.

02:31:49.960 We need to push national censorship policies

02:31:52.200 across all NATO countries.

02:31:54.880 All right.

02:31:56.040 Policy recommendations.

02:31:57.920 NATO should develop a more holistic understanding

02:32:00.680 of security that encapsulates shifts

02:32:03.440 in information technologies

02:32:04.520 and use of strategic narratives.

02:32:06.720 NATO currently responds

02:32:08.000 exposed to discrete

02:32:10.780 finite disinformation campaigns at the operational and strategic levels rather than preparing for

02:32:14.580 the inherently unpredictable nature of threats in the emergent security environment, recognizing

02:32:19.820 that unconventional means could pose an existential threat to the alliance. NATO's updated strategic

02:32:24.620 concept should remove the distinction between conventional and unconventional threats and

02:32:30.120 emphasize that future threats will occur across the spectrum of peace to war. War is peace.

02:32:40.780 The alliance should also expand and integrate the political mandates of NATO divisions and 0.79

02:32:47.820 departments focused on emerging security challenges, including disinformation. This

02:32:53.440 would first and foremost signify that threats to information integrity would be elevated to 0.77

02:32:58.160 the same importance as other types of hybrid aggression as in the cyber domain. NATO should 0.61

02:33:03.520 maintain a degree of ambiguity about whether disinformation constitutes an attack on the

02:33:09.280 alliance this would be an important step towards equalizing threat perceptions of disinformation

02:33:15.420 within the alliance and create a set of common denominator policies that would create more

02:33:20.460 national information policy coherence bruh we nato need to spy on and psychologically dissect

02:33:32.140 our own citizens in order to see how they interpret narratives online and that threaten

02:33:36.320 our political mandate nato needs to tell its own story better this is such a tell this is such a

02:33:47.920 tell we're not brainwashing people very well guys we need to tell our story better we're losing them

02:33:55.680 we're losing them to disinformation disinformation preys on existing vulnerabilities and

02:34:01.860 opportunistically utilizes events or crises yeah to make us look bad yeah this can also include

02:34:08.820 open source intelligence gathering using social media and other technologies to understand the

02:34:13.060 social context and monitoring how potential target communities attach meaning to or interpret

02:34:17.780 disinformation narratives this is actually really interesting and directs uh connects directly to

02:34:23.300 bill c63 like a sort of part of it that i don't think many people have talked about that's been

02:34:28.500 on my mind, which is if we create a digital safety board, regardless of like stopping

02:34:35.920 online harms, regardless of that, one of the, um, outcomes, if big tech agrees to it and

02:34:41.780 they don't just like leave the country, it would give the government and this body access

02:34:47.280 to a lot of data of certain users on big tech.

02:34:52.960 They always like to disconnect these two ideas and say, no, no, no, the digital safety commission

02:34:58.160 is about uh just holding the big tech platforms accountable and it's like well at the end of the

02:35:03.380 day you get access you get the keys to the castle of big tech and you get to peek behind the curtain

02:35:08.540 uh government and what will that entail would you get to learn oh someone's someone's pushing a

02:35:15.080 a misinformation campaign against nato let's research all about let's look into all of their

02:35:20.400 data how much data can you give us facebook meta how much data can you give us google oh can we

02:35:25.420 get access to their gmail we want to see that it's an online harms thing you know the potentiality

02:35:31.320 of of exactly what this is talking about in nato this can also include open source intelligence

02:35:38.620 gathering using social media they can't do that right now they can't just simply at the drop of

02:35:45.540 the hat say hey give me a bunch of your citizen social media data big tech would be like uh you

02:35:50.600 know i know we're shady but we're not that shady but with bill c63 it would give the government

02:35:57.580 the opportunity to you know strengthen the relationship with social media platforms to

02:36:03.420 get more data from people saying the wrong things on social media let's read that one more time

02:36:09.620 this can also include open source intelligence gathering social this can also include open

02:36:15.600 source intelligence gathering using social media and other technologies to understand the social

02:36:19.780 context and monitoring how potential target communities attach meaning to or interpret

02:36:26.360 disinformation narratives see they're already they're already talking about targeting specific

02:36:32.440 communities it's yeah so much for the disinformation right so much for the disinformation being the

02:36:39.640 problem it's like no no there's certain communities who are posting this disinformation and we need

02:36:44.100 to spy on them next tweet we need 24 7 disinformation monitoring system driven by

02:36:49.260 artificial intelligence oh my god every word our citizens speak every sentence they write

02:36:53.800 analyzed by a nato political thought crime radar system are you serious how much longer is this

02:37:00.320 okay just a couple more um let's see what it says here 24 7 disinformation monitoring systems

02:37:09.640 driven by artificial intelligence what else does it say promising new tools coming predominantly

02:37:15.460 from the private sector include machine learning

02:37:17.460 to remove fake social media accounts,

02:37:19.360 blockchain technology for secure digital

02:37:21.020 identity systems.

02:37:30.120 24-7 disinformation

02:37:31.800 monitoring systems.

02:37:35.320 That sounds like a nightmare.

02:37:38.340 Because who gets to decide?

02:37:40.760 Chat GPT is going to decide.

02:37:42.940 Oh, sorry.

02:37:43.520 msnbc.com

02:37:46.000 said that this was misinformation

02:37:47.780 sorry

02:37:48.860 Snopes AI

02:37:50.720 PoliFact

02:37:52.820 PoliticoFact

02:37:53.980 what are the fact checking websites

02:37:55.560 we're going to have fact check police

02:37:58.720 of the caliber of Snopes

02:38:00.780 monitoring

02:38:02.200 what is disinformation

02:38:04.440 and automatically censoring it 24-7

02:38:06.700 no thanks

02:38:08.000 no thanks

02:38:09.840 I would just go to the dark web at that point

02:38:12.040 I'd be like okay

02:38:12.700 internet's cooked time to uh go on a dark corner of the internet and

02:38:18.900 that'd probably be even less safe we need to use our muscle as the military to get political 0.80

02:38:26.340 bodies across nato to pump millions of dollars into brainwashing our citizens psychological 0.99

02:38:32.460 defense and financially steroid injecting censorship ngos oh and we need to capture

02:38:38.840 of the media, the ERM independent media. 0.54

02:38:42.460 Brother.

02:38:43.560 NATO should also use its political dialogue mechanisms

02:38:46.480 to create a coherent methodology across member nations.

02:38:50.640 This could include the creation of institutional networks,

02:38:53.620 society-oriented activities, infrastructure building,

02:38:56.700 research, education, and training tools

02:38:58.560 that go beyond mere debunking and strategic communications.

02:39:03.000 The Swedish model of psychological defense

02:39:05.040 also includes crisis modeling drills

02:39:07.140 for a variety of civil actors, including

02:39:09.140 media outlets.

02:39:12.320 Crisis

02:39:12.920 modeling drills.

02:39:16.740 I have so many questions.

02:39:23.780 Just as NATO played

02:39:25.120 a key role in the 1900s

02:39:26.820 and early 2000s in getting

02:39:28.980 Central and Eastern European

02:39:30.740 countries on a stable democratic

02:39:33.240 course, Article 2, which calls for

02:39:35.180 strengthening democratic institutions, should

02:39:37.120 be brought back to the forefront of political deliberations within the alliance.

02:39:42.260 NATO's continued support and cooperation with free and independent media

02:39:45.400 is essential to strengthening resilience.

02:39:48.120 Secretary General Stoltenberg has stated that,

02:39:52.600 quote, the best response to disinformation and propaganda

02:39:55.120 is the free and independent press.

02:39:58.380 When they ask difficult questions,

02:40:00.280 then disinformation and propaganda will never succeed.

02:40:03.200 NATO should therefore encourage

02:40:06.640 journalist exchanges facilitate

02:40:08.720 media access to activities and

02:40:10.560 exercises and urge member states to

02:40:12.660 invest in a more robust independent

02:40:14.400 local media presence

02:40:15.700 this was

02:40:17.820 this was a

02:40:20.140 very similar sort of lie

02:40:22.340 that the

02:40:24.520 liberal government was trying to push

02:40:25.800 to fund

02:40:28.680 the independent media

02:40:30.140 Let's see if we can find it.

02:40:42.240 Maybe we'll put local in there too.

02:40:58.240 This is kind of it.

02:40:59.540 federal money federal money's kept hundreds of journalists employed in canada but the program

02:41:05.220 set to expire after mass layoffs across after mass layoffs across country's largest news outlet

02:41:15.540 diversity hire after mass layoffs across country's largest news outlets we're missing a there

02:41:23.700 after mass layoffs across the country's largest news outlets independent publications

02:41:28.820 await news of their fate.

02:41:30.920 Diversity hire. 1.00

02:41:31.880 Who wrote this?

02:41:32.720 AI.

02:41:34.200 Okay, we cannot continue.

02:41:36.820 Yeah, the Local Journalism Initiative.

02:41:40.040 There we go.

02:41:42.960 Actually, I think this is it here.

02:41:44.720 Local Journalism Initiative.

02:41:46.180 March 1st, 2024,

02:41:48.160 announced 58 million investment

02:41:50.120 to extend the Local Journalism Initiative.

02:41:54.340 Local Journalism.

02:41:56.660 Yeah, so for those who don't know,

02:41:58.820 I mean, I wonder if we could look this up, too.

02:42:21.440 Uh, duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh.

02:42:26.420 Is there a big list down here or what?

02:42:28.820 i mean essentially although there's a bunch of local outlets for news in canada

02:42:44.340 a lot of them are just under the same three different umbrellas i believe it's bell

02:42:51.540 rogers and chorus if i'm not mistaken shaw media recently got bought by somebody

02:42:57.160 shock communications was acquired by rogers in april 2023 so although there's all these like

02:43:07.040 local local media outlets they're local they're independent no they're they're all under one of

02:43:14.400 three umbrellas which essentially has an what is it what's the word oligarchy oligopoly uh over

02:43:21.600 the media industry in the country newspapers radio stations tv stations they're all local

02:43:30.460 no they're all they're all under the same uh three different umbrellas there are exceptions

02:43:34.860 but even them they are uh you know they're probably doing the the government subsidy

02:43:42.300 grift anyhow so it does really make make a big difference they're going to have the same sway

02:43:47.800 because they're getting paid by the government.

02:43:51.500 So, yeah, let's read this last part again.

02:43:56.420 Oh, you guys couldn't see that here.

02:44:01.240 NATO's continued support and cooperation

02:44:02.940 with free and independent media

02:44:04.100 is essential to strengthening resilience.

02:44:06.860 The best response to disinformation and propaganda

02:44:09.160 is the free and independent press

02:44:11.100 when they ask difficult questions.

02:44:12.620 And disinformation and propaganda will never succeed.

02:44:14.720 NATO should therefore encourage journalist exchanges,

02:44:16.600 facilitate media access to activities and exercises

02:44:19.080 and urge member states to invest

02:44:20.760 in a more robust, independent, local media presence.

02:44:26.980 Member states should pay for the news media.

02:44:32.520 In a democracy,

02:44:34.820 these are the righteous democratic nations of NATO

02:44:38.720 encouraging their member states to pay for the news.

02:44:43.520 Paying for the news,

02:44:45.020 the state paying for the news

02:44:46.460 is something that happens in communist China.

02:44:48.460 It's something that happens in Russia.

02:44:50.160 It's something that happens in North Korea.

02:44:52.340 Not in democratic nations at all.

02:44:55.100 And this is the same NATO warning us,

02:44:56.960 warning us about,

02:44:57.900 don't worry,

02:44:58.380 look out for those authoritarian states.

02:45:01.160 Look out for those authoritarian countries.

02:45:03.660 They are telling you the wrong story.

02:45:05.260 They're manipulating nationalists

02:45:07.640 and patriots to...

02:45:10.260 This is distracting me.

02:45:13.240 They're manipulating nationalists

02:45:15.620 and patriots from from uh from supporting nato can you believe this they're telling their own

02:45:24.000 version of reality there there's a troll army trying to manipulate trying to manipulate the

02:45:29.760 conversation it's a threat to democracy it's it's so repetitive at this point like it's we we see 0.88

02:45:36.680 it everywhere it's the same it's the same sort of double speak lies it's ridiculous but uh needless 0.96

02:45:43.540 to say, Bill 0.51

02:45:45.120 C-63 fits in

02:45:47.520 perfectly to this

02:45:49.500 stuff. It just slides

02:45:51.680 in there.

02:45:53.740 Chef's kiss.

02:45:57.680 It fits in right there

02:45:59.500 with Bill C-63.

02:46:02.320 Because it gives

02:46:03.560 the government control and surveillance

02:46:05.980 over

02:46:07.720 people online.

02:46:09.900 All of social media.

02:46:10.880 so there you go but hey that was uh i apologize if i was kind of low energy tonight you know i

02:46:17.220 was i was doing all sorts of stuff uh to try and um you know we updated the website actually let's

02:46:24.500 show this off for a sec it's um there's still a lot of updates coming but you know we are getting

02:46:31.140 there folks we're making things look better this is the new home page for savefreespeech.ca

02:46:36.620 you can see the little donate button in the corner there very cute right that goes to the

02:46:43.720 the give send go page amazing and yeah while we're at the give send go page if you want to

02:46:48.820 support our upcoming documentary big big things we're going to tell the story we're going to tell

02:46:55.800 the story of what this bill is actually about and why it would be the end of free speech in canada

02:47:00.220 and why uh yeah we're going to raise the alarm bells and tell show canada what's really going on

02:47:06.120 here but um yeah this is the new updated site lots coming there's gonna be a couple a couple

02:47:14.060 other sections over here coming we do have our social medias on the join us page this this page

02:47:20.580 still needs a lot of work though i'm not gonna lie i'm not gonna lie oh oh i'm doxing my uh my

02:47:28.400 WordPress whoops um but uh yeah you know what let's let's let's end it off with uh promoting

02:47:37.380 this this thing as well which is very very much related I've if you've been following along I've

02:47:42.860 been uh I've been covering um you know the many different sort of how can we how can we tell

02:47:52.880 people what's going on with bill c63 how can we explain the urgency to people if they don't know

02:48:00.220 that political prisoners are a regular thing in this country you know if i if i go to if i go to

02:48:06.320 like an average normie and say hey like this government or this uh this bill c63 is going to

02:48:11.480 uh it's going to be used for political purposes to censor people the government doesn't like

02:48:17.440 you know people might look at me sideways like i have five heads like what do you what do you mean

02:48:21.680 like when did when has that ever happened when has that ever happened and that's why i'm sending

02:48:28.400 out a call to freedom fighters or to political prisoners uh you know i i sent out this video

02:48:36.620 today which uh which kind of explains it hey canada if you have been slandered by the mainstream

02:48:48.140 media or by anti-hate. I want to hear from you. You see, a lot of people in Canada don't know

02:48:54.740 that people are persecuted for their political opinions, and that's a very disturbing trend. So

02:49:00.180 we want to hear and document your story, collect as many as possible to tell the greater Canadian

02:49:05.160 public that this is going on. So if you're a doctor or nurse who was persecuted during COVID,

02:49:10.640 If you're a freedom fighter activist who got arrested, if you're a mom or parent who was pushing and speaking up against the transgender ideology in schools, we want to hear from you.

02:49:23.360 There's a very simple form below here on Twitter or X, and I know that I may have spoken to some of you already before, but still, we want to kind of make sure we're not missing anybody.

02:49:32.440 And you can fill out that form and send it to info at savefreespeech.ca.

02:49:38.000 This will help us tell the rest of the country what's really going on in Canada.

02:49:43.180 That's right.

02:49:44.740 That's right.

02:49:45.520 That's right.

02:49:46.080 We need to send them.

02:49:47.900 You know, I have talked to a lot of the people who have been persecuted for their political opinions in Canada.

02:49:53.100 But I want to make sure I'm not missing anybody.

02:49:54.960 I'm sure there's a lot of people who probably I haven't talked to.

02:49:58.320 And I do want to hear more about their story.

02:50:01.340 Get their information.

02:50:02.540 Get them on a live stream.

02:50:03.620 Chat with them about their experience.

02:50:06.300 and the idea is to compile all these interviews compile all these all all this evidence really

02:50:12.400 like break it down into as simple a form as possible you know short videos short explanations

02:50:19.960 showing how outrageous all of these things are and just sending sending out these shorts sending

02:50:26.740 out these these messages showing more canadians that this is happening because i really feel like

02:50:32.160 the dust is still almost finally starting to settle since the trucker convoy in 2022

02:50:38.340 and it's almost like a i'm trying to think of like some war analogy where's jeremy mckenzie

02:50:43.840 when you need him but like you know everyone has scattered since then it's it's kind of it was

02:50:49.080 chaotic there was this this horrific thing that happened you know beaten by police people are

02:50:54.760 dealing with that charge people are dealing with this charge people are dealing with all sorts of

02:50:58.700 they're getting bogged down by social pressures by having to pay for lawyers by

02:51:04.220 you know maybe their family's getting torn apart all at the same time maybe maybe they're maybe

02:51:09.540 their regulatory body if you're a doctor or nurse is crunching down on you and now you're in a

02:51:14.600 lawsuit with them like everybody has to deal with their own battle but they all have the same thing

02:51:20.900 in common they all have the same thing in common which is these people spoke up about a specific

02:51:27.120 issue that the government did not like and they faced the consequences for it they were targeted

02:51:33.120 for their political opinion that is not something that happens in a free country you guys that's

02:51:39.640 not supposed to be something that happens in a democratic country yet it's happened dozens and

02:51:45.480 dozens and dozens and dozens of times since especially since the trucker convoy so i want

02:51:52.160 to round these people up let's get their stories together let's let's get our story straight

02:51:55.960 let's start championing our side let's put aside our differences and and start you know keep our

02:52:02.260 eyes on the prize here which is the corrupt regime that runs this place that's making it

02:52:08.160 so hard for us to to ever get ahead or try to have our actual values heard you know i feel like going

02:52:16.240 off on on the conservative party right now how how they sort of like pretend to champion our cause

02:52:21.280 but has has Pierre Polyev mentioned like one political prisoner yet not really uh like he

02:52:29.140 he he walked with James Topp for like 10 seconds for a photo op and then disappeared

02:52:36.780 you really don't even hear enough about James Topp either and and and what happened to him

02:52:43.640 getting smeared by some some ginger journalist was it CTV at the time or globe maybe it was

02:52:51.000 it was global at the time but i mean you know it's not about and i want to address this too

02:52:57.240 it's not about like playing the victim it's telling the story telling the story of what

02:53:04.740 happened to you you know it's not about oh woe is me it's more like no this is real this actually

02:53:10.320 happened this this because i was talking to jeremy i had a phone call with jeremy a few

02:53:16.760 weeks ago about this and i've talked to other kind of people in our space before and the gas 0.83

02:53:22.580 lighting is so crazy and and the normalization of us being shit on is is so it's such a real 0.57

02:53:30.000 uh phenomena that it's almost like people who are persecuted in canada don't even don't even um 0.98

02:53:38.600 what am i what am i trying to say here like that they don't even honor themselves they don't honor

02:53:45.900 the fact that they are being

02:53:47.880 it's like

02:53:49.880 it's almost like we have a lack of

02:53:51.580 because there's been this normalization

02:53:54.380 of silencing us and there's been

02:53:56.300 this normalization of dehumanizing us

02:53:58.240 and pushing us aside we are

02:54:00.200 not actually honoring and respecting

02:54:02.300 ourselves like this isn't about being a

02:54:04.260 victim this is about self-respect

02:54:05.940 and this is about saying no this did happen to me

02:54:08.240 and it was wrong and it was

02:54:10.240 because of the

02:54:11.720 trends of corruption in this government

02:54:14.400 and we should do something about it and yes political prisoners people being persecuted

02:54:19.600 for their political opinions that is a thing that is happening regularly in canada and i'm an example

02:54:25.720 of that we we and i'm thinking because on previous streams i've brought up uh the canadian race

02:54:35.400 relations foundation and and they're they're kind of in the background one of these groups

02:54:39.580 who is trying to push for the censorship and they do it by creating this victim porn

02:54:44.740 and what they do is they round up a lot of people who have been smeared online or they you know

02:54:50.900 they've been made fun of online for being like fat and asian or whatever and they're like see

02:54:55.100 look at these sad people look at these sad people this is why we need to censor the internet 0.92

02:54:58.500 and you know we i we've looked at that and said you know look how silly this is

02:55:03.820 this is so cheap it's so dishonest it's so not accurate but but the the value i see in that or

02:55:11.740 what i take away from that is we need to do our own version of that we need to do our own version

02:55:17.500 of that they're rounding up people who are crying and mentally ill and like easily offended online

02:55:22.240 and they're using that as a weapon to push through legislation we need to do our own version of that

02:55:27.300 which is round up everybody who has been targeted by the government for their political opinion

02:55:31.400 or targeted in some way for their political opinion

02:55:33.680 and faced massive consequences

02:55:35.200 and tell that story to people

02:55:37.020 and say, there's a lot of people like this in this country.

02:55:39.640 It's happening in this country.

02:55:42.380 It's happening.

02:55:43.240 And look, look at the bill they're trying to pass.

02:55:45.380 It's only going to give the government more tools

02:55:47.400 to persecute even more people

02:55:49.260 for their opinions they don't like,

02:55:50.720 much like this has already happened to all of these people.

02:55:55.440 So that's the plan.

02:55:56.860 That's the plan.

02:55:57.560 um to start it's very very simple send us an email at save free speech sorry info at

02:56:06.180 savefreespeech.ca that's where you send your email make sure the email subject is political

02:56:11.660 prisoner and it's very three very simple fairly simple fairly it's three fairly simple things to

02:56:19.980 fill out your name and occupation links to articles uh that's slandering your reputation

02:56:26.700 You know, if you've been slandered in the mainstream media or in an anti-hate article, definitely include those links.

02:56:33.560 Also, if you've been just simply arrested for your political opinion, that's totally valid as well.

02:56:38.820 Just, you know, put that in for number two.

02:56:41.180 And then number three, give a brief two to three sentence summary of your experience.

02:56:45.960 Just in a nutshell, I know people have very long, I shouldn't say long, I should say complicated consequences that they've had to face.

02:56:56.700 There was this lawsuit, there was that lawsuit, there's this regulatory body, there's a lot going

02:57:00.700 on. And, you know, what I'm trying to say is, like, don't

02:57:04.620 kill yourself trying to fill all this out. Like, you know, just give a brief

02:57:08.820 summary and then we can get into it in an interview or

02:57:12.640 something else like this, if you're comfortable, of course, coming on a live stream. But number three

02:57:16.580 is give a brief two to three sentence summary of your experience in the following fill-in-the-blank format.

02:57:20.780 Once I started talking about blank, I faced the consequences

02:57:24.440 of blank and i'm still dealing with blank um again i'm trying to appeal to all the different

02:57:32.720 people who have faced consequences um for speaking up about their political opinion but um i i thought

02:57:40.460 that was a pretty kind of fairly simple fill in the blank thing just to kind of give us the quick

02:57:45.080 bio rundown of uh why you feel you've been you know persecuted for your political opinion

02:57:50.820 but yeah yeah that's the plan guys that's the plan that's what we're doing with savefreespeech.ca

02:57:58.260 that's some of the more content that we got cooking up it's not it's not just it's not just

02:58:02.060 a documentary there's lots lots more stuff lots more moving parts here uh going on but uh once

02:58:08.100 again if you want to help us save free speech go to give send go.com slash save free speech

02:58:13.100 send us a donation there this is going towards paying for media professionals editors the

02:58:19.640 marketing of the documentary itself there's a lot there's a lot of exciting things going on in the

02:58:25.940 background i'm not going to say what but um that's another thing that's on the to-do list for me which

02:58:31.580 is updating this uh give send go campaign because i want to show people more specifically uh you know

02:58:38.900 what they're going to be paying for what it's going to be covering and how it's yeah the effect

02:58:44.280 that they will have when they click that, uh, that donate button. But, um, guys, thanks so

02:58:49.520 much for, uh, tuning into the stream. How are we doing in chat here? Raging against the machine

02:58:59.920 says exactly, Greg, focus on one big issue. That's the idea. That's the idea. And, uh, I, I see us

02:59:07.640 as all like working together here because there's different fronts to this crazy fifth generational

02:59:13.220 war we're dealing with i i brought up uh mocha berzigan berzigan media he's focusing on like

02:59:20.300 seek corruption i guess or like the the seek world world seek organization there's all these

02:59:25.060 nefarious connections between uh that organization and canadian politicians and a lot of wasted

02:59:31.680 public funds and he's he's crushing it he's more or less focusing on that kind of issue and stuff

02:59:39.400 adjacent to that and he's absolutely crushing it and like it's i totally think it's somebody else

02:59:43.960 who we should be supporting um and there's other examples of that but i think there's a lot of i

02:59:50.600 think there's a lot of positive um i think it's i think it's a good strategic move to like focus

02:59:56.840 focus have us all focusing on one thing or another and like really being really strong in that uh

03:00:02.200 Uh, in that department.

03:00:07.900 Okay.

03:00:11.360 In Russia last year.

03:00:13.000 Okay.

03:00:14.160 Can I, can I show this?

03:00:15.920 How do I show this?

03:00:21.120 Let's try to, let's try to get this to work.

03:00:27.600 A super helpful dag just sent me, uh,

03:00:30.620 Just sent me something that I was looking for.

03:00:33.580 Hold on.

03:00:34.440 How do I do this?

03:00:43.860 Oh, doxing.

03:00:45.220 Doxed.

03:00:45.980 Oh, does that not work? 1.00

03:00:47.480 Damn. 0.99

03:00:54.600 I will save it for another time. 0.99

03:00:57.820 All right, guys.

03:00:59.100 Thanks for watching.

03:01:00.140 or just over three hours perfect kelly lloyd says and air india bombing slash jagmeet

03:01:07.100 wallbanger says calistani hijinks yes that diagram is wild purple rain says thank you

03:01:15.500 have a good night thank you purple rain thanks for tuning in guys um yeah appreciate you uh

03:01:25.000 i guess it's gonna be labor day this weekend that's exciting

03:01:30.440 there is a song that i have but it's not really done yet but i'll hopefully be able to turn that

03:01:35.400 around and it's kind of a racist song you know it might be kind of fun for people but uh yeah

03:01:43.240 we'll talk to you guys later thanks for tuning in love ya make sure you subscribe to our social

03:01:48.280 medias and all that for safe free speech and um yeah we're gonna do it we're gonna make it happen

03:01:55.800 Until next time.

03:02:09.020 Why is that glitching?

03:02:11.680 Why is the lobby video glitching?

03:02:17.260 There we go.

03:02:18.360 There we go.

03:02:25.000 Thank you.

03:02:55.000 Thank you.

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Greg Wycliffe - August 30, 2024

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