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Greg Wycliffe
- December 10, 2024
you have to do it yourself
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6 minutes
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194.23126
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1,257
Sentence Count
84
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You know, ever since I joined politics, I always noticed I would go to, I really got into it with
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the PPC in 2019. And, you know, there'd be the pub nights and we chit chat. And I always realized
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that most of the time the pubs would kind of descend into, this is the ideal society. No,
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this is the ideal system. No, this is the idea. And I realized, well, this has nothing to do with
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people who think like us actually getting power. Like, what is the actual, like, that's great.
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We could talk for days and we could actually be in the gulags talking about what's best.
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Well, this is the most ideal system. But when it comes down to it, I just try to avoid those
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conversations and say, well, what can we actually do practically to solve this problem? I really
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like the point that Adopt a Trucker brought up about how important the media is. Someone mentioned
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about, mentioned debates, how important debates are. But at the end of the day, it's going to take
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work. And people don't want to hear that. It's going to take work. It's going to take a long-term
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plan. But I think the Trucker Convoy kind of has, is a good sort of like small example.
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What I realized early on in politics as well is if you want something to happen,
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you have to do it yourself. And I would even add, like, you know, I'd love, like, we could have this
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conversation another time, but I'm sure Adopt a Trucker, you did a lot of your own personal
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efforts. I don't think the Conservative Party helped you. I don't think, you know, I think you
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did it yourself with that community. And the Freedom Convoy was another representative of that.
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Canadians helping other Canadians. And I think why it worked and why it was this beautiful thing
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is because it was a simple, simple goal. Go to Ottawa, protest mandates. That's something that
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everyone understood. Didn't even, didn't have to be people that even knew each other, but we all knew
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intuitively that that's what the goal was. And we all worked together towards that end and we did
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it ourselves. We didn't have organizations set up by any means when it all started. Sure. We made
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connections and like kind of made systems ourselves as we went along, but it worked because we, we had
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that, uh, that common goal against the establishment. Um, and you know, we need better media and
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unfortunately, uh, you know, our bigger right-wing outlets, rebel news, true North, they kind of just
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prop up Pierre Polyev. They do great work. Don't get me wrong, but that they kind of just prop up,
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um, Polyev and Tim, Tim, you were saying that, you know, you want to debate and it's true, you know,
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but here's the thing. There's no debate going on with the liberal party. There's no debate going on,
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on the concert, uh, on the, you know, uh, CBC or any mainstream media, but you don't even get a debate
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with Pierre Polyev. You know, like there is no conversation to be had in the conservative party of
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Canada. And we saw example after example of this during COVID, during lockdowns and during the
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convoy, Randy Hillier got kicked out of the party for speaking his mind. Derek Sloan got kicked out
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of the conservative party for speaking his mind. And there's a few other examples of this. So,
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you know, I heard the strategy earlier of like, we just got to keep influencing the CPC. We got to
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keep influencing Pierre Polyev. Here's the thing. It is so easy for someone who works for the
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conservative party to give you lip service and be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I hear you.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're influencing us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We totally hear your concerns at the end
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of the day though. I think, I think you guys underestimate how old and rotten the conservative
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party of Canada is. This is like a very, very old institution and it is festering. It's got mold
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that we've never even science scientists have never even seen the mold on this festering wood of the
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rotten liberal party, conservative party. It's been there for so long. The best way to influence
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the conservative party is to cause them pain. And the best way to cause them pain
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is to pick up a PPC flag. I know that people don't want to hear that, but this is the truth.
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And don't get me wrong. There are people were bringing up criticisms of Max Bernier and the
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people's party of Canada. And I tend to agree that there are a lot of, a lot of room for improvement.
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But like I said earlier, remember what I said at the beginning, you know, it's going to take work.
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It's going to take people uniting together and you know, the trucker convoy wasn't perfect,
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but we made it work and sure there's weaknesses with the PPC. For example, let's face it. The
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conservative party is, is as much as I despise their subversion and how they don't really tell
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the truth. And they, they're crushing it when it comes to clever messaging and propaganda to speak
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to frustrated Canadians. And it's unfortunate because it's like, man, I really wish the PPC was
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better at consistently tapping into that. However, there's a lot of strengths and opportunities with
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the PPC as well. They are grassroots and that means pretty well anyone can participate. They can,
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you can show up and take the wheel, especially in your local area and start to make stuff happen.
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And, you know, people will say, well, Max isn't the best. The messaging could be better. And like I
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said, I tend to agree, but you, you know, you can start taking up the PPC banner and saying what you
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want. And I'm sure it'll probably align with, uh, with the party. And as I said, cause pain to the,
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to the conservatives because you're not kind of just blindly following them. Um, but yeah, I mean,
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at the end of the day, politics is winning hearts and minds and, and moving a large group of people
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in the same direction. Um, I don't think the conservative party has our best interest in mind,
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not by a long shot. I think we've seen that since the convoy and yeah, as I said, the PPC isn't
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perfect, but in terms of the situation right now, that is at least a platform that's going to cause
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pain to the conservative party of Canada and, um, help them move in the right direction.
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And, you know, there are other opportunities, organizations that I encourage people to grow
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and build and be a part of, but you know, we need to stay solution oriented because I think it's very
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easy to kind of just sit around on the couch and shit on the PPC and Max Bernier for not being good
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enough. But at the end of the day, like we need to look for viable solutions. And that includes,
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uh, for better or for worse, you know, getting to work and, and, and doing it ourselves.
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Thanks for, uh, let me speak.
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It was very good. Great. Thank you very much, Greg. That was a good wrap up. And I really enjoyed
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what you had to say.
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