Greg Wycliffe - December 10, 2024


you have to do it yourself


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In this episode, we sit down with the founder of the Freedom Convoy, Adopt a Trucker, a group dedicated to fighting against the Conservative Party of Canada, Max Bernier. We talk about his journey into politics, how he got started in politics, and what he thinks about the current state of the party.

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00:00:00.000 You know, ever since I joined politics, I always noticed I would go to, I really got into it with
00:00:04.580 the PPC in 2019. And, you know, there'd be the pub nights and we chit chat. And I always realized
00:00:11.380 that most of the time the pubs would kind of descend into, this is the ideal society. No,
00:00:16.480 this is the ideal system. No, this is the idea. And I realized, well, this has nothing to do with
00:00:21.100 people who think like us actually getting power. Like, what is the actual, like, that's great.
00:00:26.420 We could talk for days and we could actually be in the gulags talking about what's best.
00:00:31.820 Well, this is the most ideal system. But when it comes down to it, I just try to avoid those
00:00:36.840 conversations and say, well, what can we actually do practically to solve this problem? I really
00:00:41.500 like the point that Adopt a Trucker brought up about how important the media is. Someone mentioned
00:00:47.460 about, mentioned debates, how important debates are. But at the end of the day, it's going to take
00:00:52.320 work. And people don't want to hear that. It's going to take work. It's going to take a long-term
00:00:56.940 plan. But I think the Trucker Convoy kind of has, is a good sort of like small example.
00:01:04.100 What I realized early on in politics as well is if you want something to happen,
00:01:09.120 you have to do it yourself. And I would even add, like, you know, I'd love, like, we could have this
00:01:14.080 conversation another time, but I'm sure Adopt a Trucker, you did a lot of your own personal
00:01:18.280 efforts. I don't think the Conservative Party helped you. I don't think, you know, I think you
00:01:23.400 did it yourself with that community. And the Freedom Convoy was another representative of that.
00:01:29.300 Canadians helping other Canadians. And I think why it worked and why it was this beautiful thing
00:01:34.340 is because it was a simple, simple goal. Go to Ottawa, protest mandates. That's something that
00:01:41.900 everyone understood. Didn't even, didn't have to be people that even knew each other, but we all knew
00:01:46.340 intuitively that that's what the goal was. And we all worked together towards that end and we did
00:01:52.300 it ourselves. We didn't have organizations set up by any means when it all started. Sure. We made
00:01:56.960 connections and like kind of made systems ourselves as we went along, but it worked because we, we had
00:02:01.680 that, uh, that common goal against the establishment. Um, and you know, we need better media and
00:02:08.940 unfortunately, uh, you know, our bigger right-wing outlets, rebel news, true North, they kind of just
00:02:15.160 prop up Pierre Polyev. They do great work. Don't get me wrong, but that they kind of just prop up,
00:02:19.400 um, Polyev and Tim, Tim, you were saying that, you know, you want to debate and it's true, you know,
00:02:25.320 but here's the thing. There's no debate going on with the liberal party. There's no debate going on,
00:02:30.400 on the concert, uh, on the, you know, uh, CBC or any mainstream media, but you don't even get a debate
00:02:36.800 with Pierre Polyev. You know, like there is no conversation to be had in the conservative party of
00:02:42.100 Canada. And we saw example after example of this during COVID, during lockdowns and during the
00:02:47.420 convoy, Randy Hillier got kicked out of the party for speaking his mind. Derek Sloan got kicked out
00:02:52.640 of the conservative party for speaking his mind. And there's a few other examples of this. So,
00:02:56.760 you know, I heard the strategy earlier of like, we just got to keep influencing the CPC. We got to
00:03:01.820 keep influencing Pierre Polyev. Here's the thing. It is so easy for someone who works for the
00:03:08.500 conservative party to give you lip service and be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I hear you.
00:03:13.440 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're influencing us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We totally hear your concerns at the end
00:03:17.200 of the day though. I think, I think you guys underestimate how old and rotten the conservative
00:03:22.220 party of Canada is. This is like a very, very old institution and it is festering. It's got mold
00:03:27.800 that we've never even science scientists have never even seen the mold on this festering wood of the
00:03:32.820 rotten liberal party, conservative party. It's been there for so long. The best way to influence
00:03:38.360 the conservative party is to cause them pain. And the best way to cause them pain
00:03:43.560 is to pick up a PPC flag. I know that people don't want to hear that, but this is the truth.
00:03:50.800 And don't get me wrong. There are people were bringing up criticisms of Max Bernier and the
00:03:56.140 people's party of Canada. And I tend to agree that there are a lot of, a lot of room for improvement.
00:04:02.800 But like I said earlier, remember what I said at the beginning, you know, it's going to take work.
00:04:07.420 It's going to take people uniting together and you know, the trucker convoy wasn't perfect,
00:04:13.120 but we made it work and sure there's weaknesses with the PPC. For example, let's face it. The
00:04:19.660 conservative party is, is as much as I despise their subversion and how they don't really tell
00:04:25.800 the truth. And they, they're crushing it when it comes to clever messaging and propaganda to speak
00:04:32.800 to frustrated Canadians. And it's unfortunate because it's like, man, I really wish the PPC was
00:04:37.840 better at consistently tapping into that. However, there's a lot of strengths and opportunities with
00:04:43.340 the PPC as well. They are grassroots and that means pretty well anyone can participate. They can,
00:04:51.000 you can show up and take the wheel, especially in your local area and start to make stuff happen.
00:04:57.000 And, you know, people will say, well, Max isn't the best. The messaging could be better. And like I
00:05:00.420 said, I tend to agree, but you, you know, you can start taking up the PPC banner and saying what you
00:05:05.680 want. And I'm sure it'll probably align with, uh, with the party. And as I said, cause pain to the,
00:05:12.800 to the conservatives because you're not kind of just blindly following them. Um, but yeah, I mean,
00:05:18.800 at the end of the day, politics is winning hearts and minds and, and moving a large group of people
00:05:25.660 in the same direction. Um, I don't think the conservative party has our best interest in mind,
00:05:30.740 not by a long shot. I think we've seen that since the convoy and yeah, as I said, the PPC isn't
00:05:36.980 perfect, but in terms of the situation right now, that is at least a platform that's going to cause
00:05:42.740 pain to the conservative party of Canada and, um, help them move in the right direction.
00:05:49.540 And, you know, there are other opportunities, organizations that I encourage people to grow
00:05:55.320 and build and be a part of, but you know, we need to stay solution oriented because I think it's very
00:06:01.580 easy to kind of just sit around on the couch and shit on the PPC and Max Bernier for not being good
00:06:05.920 enough. But at the end of the day, like we need to look for viable solutions. And that includes,
00:06:11.720 uh, for better or for worse, you know, getting to work and, and, and doing it ourselves.
00:06:17.540 Thanks for, uh, let me speak.
00:06:20.160 It was very good. Great. Thank you very much, Greg. That was a good wrap up. And I really enjoyed
00:06:27.240 what you had to say.