House Arrest - Ep. 22 Carrie Sakamoto

00:00:00.000 hello mr barber how's it going well we're good i apologize for where i

00:00:29.280 am right now but i am uh i'm racing a clock of daylight hours oversized load i have my hands

00:00:35.160 free ugly i make fun of anybody that goes into a truck stop with one of these things on their heads

00:00:40.320 i only wear it in the truck and i am completely hands free and i'm about 20 minutes from my home

00:00:45.180 right now where i can park and then i'll be safe for the night so bear with me everybody i'm

00:00:49.340 improvising on this busy busy week so so you're keeping the peace and being of good behavior

00:00:56.460 though right 100% condition number one how would I not be we're in that we're in spring rush right

00:01:04.460 now we're we're flat out so how was your week Tamara yeah oh um it was really busy but really

00:01:13.760 really good um yeah it was not as busy as yours well you've been on the road a lot we just talked

00:01:19.760 when you were down in montana yesterday no day before yesterday yep so look at you getting to

00:01:27.140 go down to the united states right and then uh by the load that i have on the back of my trailer

00:01:32.240 right now goes to northern northern alberta so that'll be probably next week's project so i'll

00:01:37.360 go home for the weekend and of course we're working with conditions here and what the schedule

00:01:41.980 is like so i don't uh i have my weekend off this weekend i gotta get some maintenance done and

00:01:47.520 fixing on big red needs a service it needs an oil change it needs a grease job and uh that's what

00:01:53.500 the plan is tomorrow and you've got to take good care of that truck it's going to be in the freedom

00:01:58.260 museum one day right as long as the freedom museum is in my yard where i can keep my eyes on it and

00:02:05.940 i'll be just totally fine with it exactly well i don't think anybody in uh our community here is

00:02:12.060 going to be too upset to see you driving big red uh he's almost on his way home and he's going to 0.51

00:02:17.720 pop on we're going to do our update then he's going to jump off and get his butt into the house

00:02:22.420 so hello everyone and welcome to tonight's episode of house arrest i'm super excited for tonight's

00:02:28.220 show um and our lovely guest um but first of all we will uh just say give a shout out to everybody

00:02:34.540 here i see ellie walker hello hi susan it's always great to see you here thanks for always

00:02:41.140 having our back i've been watching twitter i see what you're up to season um tiff peacock hi thank

00:02:48.560 you for coming thanks for joining us hi david big red is an icon for sure there is absolutely no

00:02:54.700 question about it absolutely no question happy thursday jim it is absolutely amazing the amount

00:03:04.140 of people that i meet when i'm out here in this truck the shout outs on the cb every you know i

00:03:09.260 I walked into Seanovan co-op this morning and before I even got to the counter,

00:03:12.500 my coffee was paid for lots of handshakes and lots of highs. And, uh, yeah,

00:03:17.460 it's awesome. You know, seeing the people out here,

00:03:19.720 just getting their stories or saying hi, it's, it's, uh, keep it coming.

00:03:24.180 I love it.

00:03:25.400 Yeah, that's right. We get a lot of love. Um, um,

00:03:29.480 we get some hate too.

00:03:30.600 And we're actually going to talk about that with our guests later on, you know,

00:03:33.360 about what it's like to be, uh, to, for, for a little online bullying,

00:03:37.160 we get lots and lots and lots of love but you know there's people i don't know what's going

00:03:41.380 on lately too they seem to be even more vicious than normal i think we're flying right over the

00:03:45.700 target for whatever reason but i don't know about your twitter account but mine has just been right

00:03:50.660 with uh trolls and bots everyone like 25 followers eight followers but there's they're calling me

00:03:57.280 really terrible names it doesn't that go against the the new hate speech bill that the liberals

00:04:02.960 just passed like just just saying no space for hate here folks i uh i'm getting very good at

00:04:11.280 using the mute button i i had engagement with somebody claiming to be jesus today on x and

00:04:16.740 and then as soon as i responded to him then of course it was like oh you seem to be really you're

00:04:21.040 obsessed with me well no but you're here and i'm having fun with you so then i finally just hit

00:04:26.240 the mute button anyway bye-bye that's what's what you got hilarious you don't want to block them

00:04:31.500 because then then they can use a screenshot right so you mute them and they just disappear there's

00:04:35.580 a trick to the trade yeah well if you block them that they think that they're important i just mute

00:04:40.660 them and let them scream to themselves i don't have to see any of that stuff which which is good

00:04:46.060 right um it's funny going into the thread comments so after and realizing that the people that you

00:04:51.020 muted a long time ago are still chirping away well wear it like a badge of honor that means

00:04:57.800 we're doing something right we're pissing off all the wrong people mr barber yes exactly and keep

00:05:04.200 in mind too this is easter weekend um remember the reason behind why it is easter weekend it's

00:05:09.880 not because of bunnies and chocolate for the children there's a more symbolic uh thing to be

00:05:15.820 to be remembered in this weekend so blessing it's funny that you said that you were just

00:05:22.360 it's funny that you said you were just talking with jesus today because he's in my inbox too i

00:05:28.580 got a message from somebody months ago i hardly ever get into my dms because you can just imagine

00:05:32.880 what they look like but um he was the true and living jesus christ he said and um i didn't

00:05:39.300 respond good for you good for you um yeah you know it could be a how who am i to say where

00:05:44.180 he's going to show up he might show up in our inboxes we just never know um but yeah

00:05:48.740 someday i see him come through there maybe someday soon we're living in almost end times right now

00:05:54.420 and we can all see that anyone who's studied the bible in any sort of way so i kind of hope next

00:05:59.220 time i see him here shortly it's through the clouds and and he's he's done with this world so

00:06:05.380 yes yeah no no yeah it's crazy times here um we have a couple of announcements to make actually

00:06:11.620 um uh our producer tasha is got us all set up on rumble so i think we're going to be hitting rumble

00:06:18.020 hopefully next week but we'll see how that goes and we also finally got all of the monetization

00:06:23.140 set up so you can actually super chat now um on our youtube channel um the witch is just going to

00:06:30.420 go to cover help cover our expenses for keeping the show going and of course all of that stuff

00:06:36.900 and uh yeah so there's that option and of course um as much as my husband hates this

00:06:42.660 i'm going to encourage everyone to like and share and subscribe to our

00:06:46.580 channel i mean you can't have this much fun on a thursday day no right yeah no it does cost us a

00:06:54.100 little bit of money to do that of course tasha needs some uh our amazing producer tasha there's

00:06:58.820 going to be wages involved there right now she's still pro bono but it'd be really nice to be able

00:07:02.420 to help her out with her costs and time for the amount of time that she puts into this if you're

00:07:06.420 watching any of our social media you'll see the little clips that get edited and and reposted

00:07:12.340 promoting the show that's all tasha working behind the scenes she's absolutely amazing so shout out

00:07:17.060 to tasha yeah absolutely we sure appreciate she's the hardest working lady i know that's for sure

00:07:22.980 that is for sure um anything else as far as your uh cso your probation officer oh my gosh it does

00:07:31.540 work glenn it does look at that chris we got our first super chat thank you glenn that's so kind

00:07:40.660 yes it does work i appreciate that yeah thank you so much remind me after the show to let me

00:07:47.340 know what a super chat is as i am completely in the dark when it comes to that yeah it's uh well

00:07:53.740 yeah i guess well you probably don't watch it well it's just a thing that you can do if you

00:07:58.200 want to like you know um donate to the channel or whatever you can do a super chat and you can

00:08:02.460 pick how much money that you want to want to gift or whatever so there's super chats super thanks i

00:08:08.140 even know i don't even know what there is but you know that's just what i was just telling our guest

00:08:11.500 before the show started we don't know what we're doing and that's what's so beautiful about us

00:08:16.380 chris we never we never know what we're doing we just fly by the seat of our pants and and it is

00:08:20.940 what it is so it's a good way to pass you know a thursday night and and tell our stories and get

00:08:27.500 other people's stories out there that's why i'm excited for tonight we've been in contact with

00:08:32.220 carrie sakamoto for how long tamara she's got an amazing story a sad story and she's still

00:08:38.620 standing there fighting and trying to speak the truth and get her word out so i absolutely

00:08:44.380 absolutely strong well if you need to pop off um you jump off whenever you need to chris

00:08:49.420 and just jump back in whenever you get to your computer um i'm just gonna do a quick intro um

00:08:54.860 to carrie here obviously um yeah we had the absolute pleasure i've had the pleasure of

00:08:59.660 meeting carrie a few times now um but of course you know very early on in 2021 or later i guess

00:09:05.580 it was in 2021 after the rollout we have to be careful what we say by the way um after the rollout

00:09:11.260 um carrie was a young mom she was a farm wife um and she believed the cbc when they told her that

00:09:20.700 everything was safe and effective um she believed the government when they told her that it was safe

00:09:25.260 and effective and shortly after after um she did

00:09:33.820 a good a good person a good citizen doing what she was told and shortly afterwards she

00:09:39.420 started experiencing um some symptoms she ended up hospitalized for 17 days and during that time

00:09:45.900 she could not walk she couldn't talk she couldn't chew she couldn't focus um so you know she's had

00:09:53.500 quite a struggle um and getting back to having some kind of quality of life and she's also been

00:09:59.980 a a victim not only of that but also of the uh this program um i believe carrie went through

00:10:08.540 i'm not sure if it was nine or eleven care workers um through that whole fiasco of a program they

00:10:13.500 were too busy watching netflix playing ping pong and drinking on friday afternoons to actually

00:10:18.700 looked after um the vaccine injured who clearly needed uh needed the help the most so um i would

00:10:27.340 really love to welcome uh carrie sakamoto to the show thank you so much for coming carrie how are

00:10:32.540 you hi guys nice to see you guys too thank you for that's a great picture oh it's been it's long

00:10:42.700 overdue like i was saying the other day uh chris and i did a chat on with for rebel news the other

00:10:46.860 day and i said you know we could probably do these every episode all all the time there's you know

00:10:51.900 it's it's tragic there's just so many of you carrie but you know i gotta say thank you um you have

00:10:58.860 just put up a hell of a fight and you're still fighting not only just for your recovery but also

00:11:04.540 for um the other injured and uh we're gonna talk a little bit about some of that stuff tonight your

00:11:09.500 lawsuit you have a lawsuit i'm really happy to hear that but i also understand how scary and

00:11:15.500 tough those things can be um and so why don't we just start out why don't you just introduce

00:11:21.020 yourself to our audience and uh give us a give them a bit of your story sure hi everybody my

00:11:27.980 My name is Carrie Sakamoto, and I live in southern Alberta.

00:11:33.900 In 2021, in April of 2021, I was coerced into getting a jab,

00:11:48.180 and I had a list of reasons, which everybody did.

00:11:55.480 You know, my both my parents were in the military. My family was quite liberal. In saying that, I mean, we had all the childhood vaccines. We had, I actually got the flu one every other year because I had small kids in school.

00:12:19.620 um so for me you know I was homeschooling my kids at the time in 2021 we were being told

00:12:29.420 all over the news um that if we went and did this things could go back to normal um that was just

00:12:38.720 one of the things they promised if we went and did this so in April I went and got it um I got

00:12:46.220 az and um they pulled that from alberta i'm not sure if they've pulled it all from canada i believe

00:12:55.880 it was all pulled from canada um they were saying that there were several things happening i believe

00:13:02.640 blood clots was one of the things um so then i was having to choose between the other ones that

00:13:12.000 were left. So now I had to mix. And so they came on the news and they were saying it was safe to

00:13:18.700 mix all of a sudden, that it would give you better immunity. I heard that one too.

00:13:26.740 So I went in June and got my second one. And it was the PF one.

00:13:36.220 um i got sick right away like within a few hours i was sick um it was flu-like symptoms

00:13:46.340 um really achy um just felt like garbage but my husband had um also had his done and was having

00:13:56.180 the same symptoms so um i kind of felt like that that's what was supposed to happen um but

00:14:04.640 as the week went on, he got better and I got worse. Um, I developed a fever and tonsil stones,

00:14:14.460 which I'd never had before. Um, so I called my doctor to see if I could go in, but because of

00:14:23.300 restrictions, um, COVID restrictions, they weren't seeing anybody in person. If you had

00:14:30.360 a sore throat or if you appeared to be sick so um she told me or she prescribed me some 0.93

00:14:38.440 penis or some antibiotics and she said if i wasn't better throughout the weekend to call back

00:14:47.560 and she would see me in person i didn't make it to that next appointment it was only a few

00:14:54.120 more hours later. And the only way I can describe it is brain fire. It felt like my brain was on

00:15:02.740 fire. It was excruciating. And it was so bad, I started vomiting and I couldn't stop.

00:15:13.240 I went to emergency and they thought I was having a migraine. So they gave me a bunch

00:15:22.520 of medications to treat a migraine, including anti-nausea medicine. So I started to feel

00:15:29.980 better. They sent me home. As soon as that wore off, within like a few hours, I was right back

00:15:36.680 to where I was. My brain felt like fire, the vomiting. I was really weak by now because I'd

00:15:45.620 been sick for about 10 days at this point and so I was just feeling like garbage so we were going

00:15:59.000 back to the hospital and on the way it felt like my face was swelling up I wasn't sure what was

00:16:05.760 happening so I looked in the the passenger mirror and I watched my face drop I thought I was having

00:16:14.920 a stroke um that was my first instinct because those are the things you see on the news

00:16:21.400 i thought i was having a stroke so um we got to emergency they took me in the back um and they

00:16:30.760 said that after some testing and stuff they said that it was um bell's palsy

00:16:36.920 and they prescribed me some steroids and a couple other medications and they sent me home again

00:16:48.740 they said that the hospital was full of patients suffering from the COVID infection and so

00:16:59.860 they sent me home they said if anything changed to come back again they had given me medication

00:17:06.500 to stop the burning in my brain which I was still thinking was a migraine at this point

00:17:11.320 um I got home the meds wore off again I'm throwing up again the pain is back but now

00:17:20.360 I've got the Bell's palsy on top of it with the vertigo it was just I was getting worse and worse

00:17:26.900 so back to the hospital we went again where they admitted me right wow and how old were your

00:17:35.920 children because you have three boys right yes um yes my youngest would have been eight and then

00:17:43.680 my middle child would have been 10 and my oldest was about 17. Right so as this stuff is all

00:17:52.300 happening at the same time you're still trying to you know raise a family look after your family

00:17:58.060 look after your household you guys um were on a farm I believe if I remember correctly and then

00:18:03.940 you ended up we were forced to um forced to sell your farm and move into town where you obviously

00:18:09.440 could be closer to to help correct correct yeah yeah yeah yeah we have to sell we have to sell

00:18:17.240 everything so i i spent 17 days in the hospital um when i was in there it was about day five

00:18:26.120 probably about the fifth day i was in there maybe the sixth or seventh day i'm sorry i don't have

00:18:31.440 it in front of me um that's when um the team of doctors came to me and told me that they knew

00:18:38.720 what was going on um they said that it was a form of bell's palsy that was that they were seeing from

00:18:49.480 the jab sorry they didn't say they were seeing it they said they have seen this so um i think

00:19:00.360 they were referring to the past I don't know come to find out they were seeing this in the trials

00:19:05.320 or in the testing that they did I guess um but it wasn't put on the list of thing of side effects

00:19:15.160 and so um you know I I was they were trying to treat me um and they said you know we don't know

00:19:24.500 what's gonna happen because we haven't seen this from this jab um so this is where i am really

00:19:36.340 fortunate um my doctor reported my injury to ottawa that was a really important thing that he

00:19:49.980 did um now realizing you know as things have gone on and i've seen so many other injured people that

00:19:58.380 you know can't get anywhere with their doctors um i'm very fortunate that my doctor reported

00:20:05.500 everything i had really excellent care when i was good little here um i had every test

00:20:13.340 they checked tested me for gillian bar um they you know did all the things um they did cat scans

00:20:21.820 all the scans to see um if i had lesions on my brain and that was okay um now unfortunately

00:20:31.180 it's been five years and i have a condition called synchisis where um it's healed back

00:20:40.380 wrong um so my this eye kind of does whatever it wants i can't control it um

00:20:49.820 i have loss of smell and taste like partially um i have hearing loss i have double vision

00:20:58.540 and vision loss in this eye and vertigo and memory loss from the medications it's a side

00:21:06.060 effect of the medications i'm taking for the side effect that i got from the jab wow

00:21:13.340 and so yeah well like that lady said bless that doctor because there are so many that would never

00:21:17.660 have done that or even admitted that that that could have been an option yeah so like you said

00:21:23.500 yeah very lucky i'm so i'm glad to hear that you had excellent care because we hope yeah that's

00:21:30.780 and actually those doctors in the hospital were the ones who told me about the vaccine injury

00:21:36.620 support program and that's when i started that journey i actually applied for the program

00:21:42.540 before i left the hospital wow and i didn't even realize it was it has already started that

00:21:49.820 quickly actually the vaccine injury program i didn't realize it had started that quickly so

00:21:56.540 so that was still in 2021 when they started it yeah um so i was injured in july so it didn't it

00:22:02.760 hadn't been open for very they hadn't been running it very long and i uh had to deal with a lot of

00:22:10.980 things with the program my first case manager was fired for they're not saying why but um he was

00:22:18.760 very abusive to me he would yell and scream at me um he told me i was just i've got a

00:22:26.480 quote here actually from you you um the global news actually did a report on the injured which

00:22:32.880 which i will give them credit for um they did a kayla pollack was in it too i think they profiled

00:22:38.160 some of your guys's stories you were in it and you were quoted in that in that article

00:22:43.280 as saying that that program was quote it's extremely frustrating dehumanizing incredibly

00:22:52.000 dismissive even abusive yeah that's terrible yeah yes yes so all the things

00:23:06.800 but i found when i when i got out of the hospital i wanted people to know what what had happened

00:23:12.800 to me because i thought oh my gosh these doctors need to know what to look for um because i didn't

00:23:20.000 want anyone else to go through being sent home and all of the things that i had just been through

00:23:26.080 and um i was being having doors closed um the media didn't want to hear about it even though

00:23:33.760 i had um these doctors saying that this is what happened to me i was being met with

00:23:39.120 with, we don't believe you. And so that made me mad. And that's when I realized I had to get more

00:23:52.260 proof. And that was through their government program. And so that's what I did. I went through

00:23:58.920 the program, and they evaluated my case and said that my case, you have to be accepted as

00:24:06.760 severe or permanent and severe. So they won't accept your claim unless it's those two just to

00:24:16.400 begin with. So there's very strict criteria. I checked into this and I did talk a little bit

00:24:25.000 about this with Kayla Pollock because I was obviously very curious when I heard about the

00:24:28.920 vaccine injury support program and I started looking into it and literally what it what it

00:24:35.900 was like it immediately arrived can popped into my head I thought this is

00:24:41.720 just another organization that the government's just gonna funnel money

00:24:44.900 through and it's good and it proved to be true I looked into them the government

00:24:50.580 had had contracted out this support program to a digital and marketing

00:24:57.140 technology services company or however this digital digital and technology

00:25:02.840 services and marketing company which right away I thought well that's weird like what and if you

00:25:08.180 looked on their website at the time it said they had like over 50 doctors and they had all these

00:25:14.180 resources I mean I mean it's a it's a the website was all about you know media marketing and then

00:25:21.160 the vaccine injury support program number one like what what are these things doesn't doesn't

00:25:26.460 belong here um they were bragging about all the resources that they had but yet I was hearing from

00:25:31.820 you i was hearing from kayla i was hearing from others that they were well like you said they

00:25:37.500 were getting ignored their their phone calls weren't being returned um it was taking forever

00:25:43.580 that you're going through caseworker after caseworker after case it was you that went

00:25:47.340 through 11 right 11 caseworkers i'm on 12 right now um and this will be the new one with the new

00:25:53.820 program but they're telling us we're we have teams now so um ping pong players or teams

00:26:10.060 wow but it's it's i don't know i i i hope that it can run the way they want it to run um but

00:26:21.020 i have some serious doubts um what do you mean when the government takes over and runs programs

00:26:28.540 that always go so smoothly carrie i mean come on they're they just ride in to save the day

00:26:35.100 yeah yeah they're there to help um like they're not so now all these the program has been um

00:26:45.180 sorry, deemed incompetent, basically. And but they've denied all these claims already. So and

00:26:57.260 like, some of the reasons that have been denied are insane. I've had a bunch of stuff denied,

00:27:06.080 which is why I'm still in appeals five years later, even though I'm in appeals because of

00:27:11.540 mistakes that they made saying I had treatments done that were never done with great results

00:27:17.300 never done you know many many examples like that um well that does sound like a government agency

00:27:24.900 actually yeah so all these people that have been told no they can't get help from this program um

00:27:32.600 and this the people who were running it were incompetent so how how is that fair they need to

00:27:42.280 make a change there i think that people need to be able to reapply i think it's only fair but

00:27:48.760 they're not fair they don't care yeah that's right because you were saying that every anyone

00:27:54.360 that was already been denied they're not even looking at those applications now no right so

00:27:59.320 that's a and so what they did just for those of you at home that are watching um obviously the

00:28:04.840 vis program was an abysmal failure um they didn't get near enough resources to our injured friends

00:28:11.800 as what needed to be they dragged their feet i think that went on for two or three years of that

00:28:16.040 nonsense like carrie just said it's been five years so now they've turned it uh from the vis program

00:28:22.280 into the viap program i'm not even sure what that stands for it's a vaccine impact assistance program

00:28:34.920 impact yeah how many people are out there that have not sought help or tried this you know i

00:28:43.560 the amount of injuries out there right now are absolutely astonishing you're seeing it

00:28:47.160 So the numbers as of today are there are 3,557 claims received by the program.

00:28:56.380 So those are just people that have applied.

00:28:58.880 They've approved 252.

00:29:03.920 They've had 11 appeals approved.

00:29:08.000 That's good.

00:29:09.020 um and yeah um i missed i i forgot to write down what the total was in payouts but not very much

00:29:17.980 not very much 252 people wow that's incredible i mean do they what was the screening process like

00:29:29.340 like like like so did you have to reapply for this program like like let's sort of walk us

00:29:34.700 through maybe what happened once uh visp stopped and this viap uh started um so were you automatically

00:29:44.860 uh funneled over to that that thing you were in and then you're funneled over there yeah okay

00:29:53.100 and so now you have a new caseworker and so what has that experience been like if you can talk

00:29:59.020 about it well it's only been a few days so um they don't actually have it up and running really yet

00:30:05.580 um it's going to be another month before they have this portal that they are putting together

00:30:11.980 um they are saying see one of the things or a couple of the things that stalled this program

00:30:19.180 is um in the beginning they wanted um all the doctors to fax them the information so i wasn't

00:30:27.100 allowed to send it the doctors weren't allowed to email it they could only fax and tell me how many

00:30:33.740 places have fax machines nowadays not very many that was the thing that was just we used to use

00:30:40.140 those in the 1900s you know after you sent the factory did they reply to that fax with the pager

00:30:47.660 so that was incredibly um frustrating in the beginning right from the start

00:30:57.620 i had my doctors the specialists there was three of them trying to tell these people that i needed

00:31:05.500 some help through this program and they were saying fax us and my doctor's going i don't

00:31:12.060 have a fax machine um i travel i i go to different hospitals all the time like this isn't possible

00:31:19.180 we have a secure portal doctors do that there's no reason why we can't you know be using um that to

00:31:27.020 give medical documents and stuff um no they wouldn't do that um it took a long time

00:31:33.260 now they're saying with this new program we can upload documents into our file um apparently

00:31:42.460 we're going to be able to see what's in our files so i'm really curious to see because i know i'm

00:31:48.540 not the only one that they've requested information you know three four five six times so right

00:31:54.140 Right. That's so incredibly frustrating. I mean, as somebody who has done administration,

00:32:03.840 organization, and logistics, why isn't this portal already set up? Why would they, like,

00:32:09.320 all this stuff they've had all this time, they announced the end of VISP, what, six to eight

00:32:14.240 months ago, I think is when that came out. So what have they been doing? And I understand that

00:32:20.240 these things take time to set up but the government federal government has more employees than than

00:32:24.960 you know you can possibly imagine um but in the meantime people like you kayla all of them you

00:32:32.700 guys are still not getting taken care of that this frustrates me to no end because like i said to you

00:32:39.060 on the phone earlier it feels like they're literally just kicking the can down the road

00:32:43.140 and buying time for what i don't want to say and i hope i'm wrong but it's absolutely ludicrous

00:32:49.400 that this is not that this program started yesterday and everything should have been laid

00:32:54.360 out and ready to go so that they could start working with you guys at eight o'clock yesterday

00:32:58.680 morning this is it's not acceptable it's not acceptable i agree and who's working there now

00:33:06.440 like is it the same people have they had a turnover i asked for investigations into a couple

00:33:12.040 of my case managers um and they're like yeah yeah we'll look into it you know nothing ever happened

00:33:17.560 um yeah like i don't is it going to be the same people that are running this i don't understand i

00:33:24.840 um yeah i had some more questions but you couldn't just ask questions you had to submit them

00:33:31.160 um and i didn't get a chance to they had 300 they had over 300 questions and they said they just

00:33:36.680 couldn't get to them wow this just couldn't get to them you know that they'll just get to that

00:33:42.280 when they're ready carrie yes i'm not gonna get i'm not gonna start swearing but this is the stuff

00:33:47.960 that really irritates me you know the property right now in the government and this is the sad

00:33:52.200 part is if anybody that imports things that the united states into canada right now the government

00:33:56.760 just implemented this new portal called the carm program and it is absolutely disgusting to see

00:34:02.440 how something that was so simple before has now just been completely screwed by by government

00:34:07.240 actions especially when we're importing things into this country there's another portal for that

00:34:12.040 for i have to go into that portal of the government there is more time and priority

00:34:16.760 into portals for other things instead of the things that it should be right now this is the

00:34:20.840 embarrassing part of this country right now especially this government yeah well i mean

00:34:27.240 it's like they just want you to give up you know it's like they just they make you jump through

00:34:31.240 all these hoops and hopes that you're just gonna just walk away from it and just say you know

00:34:35.720 i'll just i'll just take care of myself i mean like you said this has been five

00:34:39.400 well of course they would yeah I mean you can only put up with incompetence and ineptitude

00:34:45.880 for so long before you're just gonna get frustrated well and then what you know and

00:34:50.740 then you're getting offered made on top of it like not you I don't think you have been

00:34:53.740 specifically offered made no but and we're having to fight the the government we're having to fight

00:35:01.660 with doctors we're having to fight with you know all these people just to get some help just to

00:35:07.840 get help with our our health that's all we're asking for it's not like you know it's not like

00:35:14.660 we want a new house or we want you know all these things it's our basic needs medication about your

00:35:20.760 quality of life yeah you did what you you did what you thought was right you did what the tv

00:35:26.500 and your your elected officials and your public health officials told you would would make you a

00:35:32.060 good person and we're for the for the better of society and you know this is it's just it's so

00:35:38.580 terrible this is absolutely terrible and like you said a lot of people would just walk away because

00:35:43.240 it's it's got to be so frustrating and I think you put I think you put it very nicely in your

00:35:48.720 quote to global news that you know it's all of those things and probably so much more so I give

00:35:54.820 you great credit for sticking to your guns because I think we know that's not easy but you shouldn't

00:36:01.440 have to keep fighting it's you that word you shouldn't even have that word in your vocabulary

00:36:06.600 you shouldn't be fighting anything these people should be falling all over themselves yeah that's

00:36:12.120 right exactly i just want to find some normalcy you know but it's always it's always a fight

00:36:19.620 um which is fine um i mean it is what it is right um you're a fighter i have a lot of support now

00:36:27.420 in the beginning it was really rough but um i have found amazing support so i'm so glad yeah

00:36:35.100 i'm so glad support is waiting for us in the media room we're in the backstage right now who

00:36:40.480 is our special unannounced guest tonight an amazing person had a lot of experience with

00:36:46.020 years ago can we bring her on we can bring her on we'll just give her a little intro first so

00:36:52.000 um carrie has launched a lawsuit i believe it's against the government and the cbc correct

00:36:56.680 no it's actually the provincial and the federal government going out okay sorry yeah provincial

00:37:03.540 and okay yeah that's good so so um and here to join us tonight is our lovely friend um

00:37:10.920 eva chippyak eva chippyak is one of the lawyers representing carrie in her lawsuit um eva and

00:37:18.780 jeff rath i believe are teamed up on this one to help carry out welcome to house arrest eva

00:37:23.280 nice to see you yeah it's it's been a happy to be here happy to be here

00:37:29.100 it's tough circumstances and just hearing her story again it just breaks my heart that like

00:37:35.940 you said she shouldn't be fighting this is just ridiculous what the government's done and just

00:37:40.760 abandoned i use that word abandoned injure yep they have it's terrible and i just got to say

00:37:48.320 thank you eva for all that you're doing i know that you have been in on this case for a long

00:37:53.120 time and not only that but so many other cases that you're working on too and um you know you

00:37:58.160 you fought with us in ottawa and you're still fighting for um you know the little people that

00:38:02.320 need it the most so thank you for everything that you're doing for carrie yeah my pleasure

00:38:07.520 and maybe i i could just jump into the lawsuit a little bit to give it some sure in that yes

00:38:12.480 And I did start the lawsuit on behalf of Kerry individually, and we did sue the CBC originally.

00:38:20.180 But then when I teamed up with Jeff, we turned it into a class action.

00:38:24.940 So any injured person in Alberta would be under this class action.

00:38:29.520 And now, like Kerry said, it's against the federal and the provincial government.

00:38:34.500 We already went through one step where it wasn't to dismiss it,

00:38:40.180 But both governments wanted to have a step in advance where they could argue that.

00:38:46.140 And the judge said, no, we're going to do that all together in June.

00:38:49.440 I think our case is incredibly strong compared to some of the other ones we've seen.

00:38:55.640 And I could get into those details as well to give it some context.

00:39:00.160 Sure.

00:39:01.540 Okay.

00:39:02.200 So one of the things that we heard is the complete failure of the VISP program.

00:39:07.960 The reason that it's really hard to sue the government is usually to win on a negligence claim. It can't be for a policy reason. If the government says, we want to do this and this is the direction we're going, it's really hard to sue them for that idea, let's say.

00:39:26.140 But in this case, their idea was operationalized via the vaccine injury support program. So there's an actual, they're implementing something and they're delivering a service which has failed. So in our class action, we're saying that they were negligent in their delivery of the vaccine injury program, which is like, there's no denying it because they've taken it away.

00:39:50.780 They admitted it. Netflix, ping pong, drinking on Fridays. Exactly. I mean, that's already a no-brainer. That's already been proven.

00:40:02.160 Yep. So that's one of the claims we're making. In addition, the other operational claim is that the reporting has just failed completely.

00:40:13.700 if you look online the last time i looked at least when we we submitted our brief which wasn't that

00:40:18.780 long ago the last time they updated the adverse events was january 2024 so how is anybody supposed

00:40:29.240 to be informed when they're not providing that data to the people so that's the second one and

00:40:35.800 then the third one with respect to more so the provincial government but it does go to both

00:40:41.100 is they commissioned the Davidson Report

00:40:45.420 that identified a number of problems

00:40:48.740 and had recommendations.

00:40:51.520 They haven't operationalized those yet.

00:40:54.100 So they're aware that these problems exist.

00:40:56.540 So we say that's negligent on the part of the government

00:41:00.740 for not operationalizing them

00:41:03.520 or doing so in a competent manner that actually works.

00:41:08.440 So I think on that we're really good.

00:41:10.640 in addition we're even going further saying that this could constitute misfeasance in public office

00:41:16.480 because again they know about these issues yet they haven't delivered um and then the last one

00:41:22.960 which i think is really interesting i think oh there's negligent misrepresentation which definitely

00:41:27.120 we should get into but the third one too is a conspiracy to commit uh assault and batter because

00:41:33.840 we know that there was communication like when one was putting in the vaccine mandates i have to

00:41:39.440 not use that word which also was frustrating me watching this like this is a legit court case

00:41:45.040 that's in front of the judges in alberta and for us not to be able to use these words because of

00:41:52.160 censorship is just ridiculous to me like let's behave like adults if we're going to be adults 0.57

00:41:57.920 but we can't do that we have to uh be mindful of our words which is you're kidding that is nuts 0.81

00:42:07.040 not us in court monetized no no in court oh us yes okay yeah well yeah we might get too much

00:42:13.920 we just turned it on tonight so it's whatever if we did so it's no big deal or not even that but

00:42:19.280 i don't know if they like targeted and then you don't people don't view it as much so obviously

00:42:23.440 we want people to see it and understand but conspiracy to commit assault and battery i think

00:42:29.600 is another excellent claim that we have in that there was obviously some coordination

00:42:35.120 because we heard the same messages coming from one level of government and then the other one

00:42:40.320 so you can't tell us that there wasn't a coordination and if you want if you needed

00:42:46.160 people or wanted people to get these jabs there was a way that you could have done it through

00:42:52.240 the legislation you could have made it criminal you know there's ways the government can enact

00:42:56.960 mandates and do these things but they did it sneaky they were doing it coercively and then

00:43:02.080 And famously, of course, we heard the prime minister at the time later say, I didn't coerce anyone, but they took all these routes to get there.

00:43:09.700 So what is that? And we've claimed that that's conspiracy to commit assault and battery.

00:43:16.260 Good. But on the negligent misrepresentation, I think that's a huge claim.

00:43:21.860 And it hasn't succeeded against the government before, because, again, they get away with a lot, obviously.

00:43:28.080 And it's really hard to win against the government. But we've never seen the government going this far like they did in this case where they were out on the TV, like you were saying all the time, public health officials, doctors, public service doctors were on TV.

00:43:43.580 our elected officials the prime minister the premier were on there saying it's safe and

00:43:49.260 effective it's safe and effective you have to go get it uh incentivize it million dollars you could

00:43:56.940 win let's not forget that a free burger yeah free donuts and what the actual evidence shows

00:44:07.660 Pfizer's contract says that we don't know if it's safe or effective. The monographs say do not

00:44:15.520 mix and match. Yet all these officials were saying those words when the evidence was not

00:44:23.500 saying that. So what is that called? It's negligent misrepresentation. And I think we have a very

00:44:28.300 strong claim on that as well. So I just wanted to give a little bit of an overview of the lawsuit

00:44:33.760 to give it some context is the lawsuit certified no nope so that'll be in june um that'll be in

00:44:42.060 calvary i think it's june 15th to the 18th right now we've submitted our brief on behalf of carrie

00:44:48.300 and that's available on the wrath and co website um we're expecting the provincial and the federal

00:44:54.800 brief in um coming up here april 8th and then we have a chance to reply and then we'll be in court

00:45:01.660 in june do you have a number right now how many people have joined um since you've put this out

00:45:07.500 no there we we were getting obviously a ton of emails and it's obviously no mainstream media has

00:45:14.620 ever announced this so this is people just hearing about it through you know alternative media or

00:45:20.060 however else carrie also is a big advocate and talks to people are reaching out to her all the

00:45:25.100 time um just the medical community is still like blind eye to it so a lot of people i don't think

00:45:32.380 know um what's going on with their health we know what happens as soon as a doctor or a health

00:45:38.540 professional says oh yeah this is this you know they're censored they're shut up they're they're

00:45:43.260 they're fired they're this is what's been happening yeah wow one more thing on the

00:45:50.860 the negligent misrepresentation too is that the approvals in this case had there was an interim

00:45:56.800 order issued by the federal government so they actually normally drugs and jobs in canada go

00:46:04.540 through an approval to make sure it's safe and effective in this case they implemented an interim

00:46:10.940 order where they didn't have to prove it was safe and effective the it was a subjective test where

00:46:18.220 they had to show that there was more benefit than harm so even the approval itself and they were

00:46:25.860 they would say we saw them and it's all over in our brief we ad nauseum showed how often there

00:46:31.640 there were they were saying it but they were saying it's rigorously tested in canada to ensure

00:46:37.720 that it's safe and effective that wasn't even the approval in this case so people need to understand

00:46:44.440 that and for our elected officials and public health officers to say that to our face knowing

00:46:50.760 that that wasn't even the case just just tell us the truth say there was a different test

00:46:55.660 like we're adults we should be able to handle that well but i think you know well as uh as uh

00:47:03.760 carrie knows i mean we were just we were lied to um we were just lied to constantly to the point

00:47:09.260 where nobody even knew what to believe anymore and and that's a part of it too you know people

00:47:14.300 were were confused they were scared it was as far as I'm concerned it was a giant psyop um that's

00:47:20.880 what it feels like to me and um and there was even reports that came out in the globe and mail about

00:47:25.840 the military admitting to using the pandemic as a psyop to perform psychological operations on

00:47:31.740 people so Carrie how have you found I mean Chris and I have spent more time in a courtroom than I

00:47:38.420 care to even know um but you know how have you found the legal process um and like i said you've

00:47:44.840 got a great team with jeff jeff and eva in your corner for sure um well you know you think it's

00:47:52.720 gonna go quickly i guess that was my perception um boy was i wrong um eva kept telling me but i was

00:48:00.920 like oh i know we're on to the next thing and uh but yes it's a very slow slow process um but

00:48:08.600 uh the amount of support that i get um is really encouraging um more and more people show up every

00:48:17.100 time i go so that's that's nice that people are hearing about it more but it's like eva said it's

00:48:24.560 only through word of mouth um through groups that i belong to

00:48:29.360 online um different support groups like can rise 19

00:48:34.720 is a really good one and then just going on to like my social

00:48:39.760 media and just talking about it at nauseam you know just

00:48:45.200 i'm not going away as long as i have to keep waking up like this

00:48:49.040 i'm gonna keep going forward i have a lot of people that are um

00:48:54.080 you know they're hoping that i can get through this um so it can set precedent so that um you

00:49:01.440 know people in other provinces all across canada can um get the help that they deserve absolutely

00:49:09.840 well and i think that's one one thing that's so important about what you're doing um is that it is

00:49:14.960 it is going to help other people you know other everyone that comes after you that that needs

00:49:20.960 help too um so absolutely i give you kudos because it's an exhausting process i mean

00:49:26.400 sitting in a courtroom all day long is not fun um and i don't know how your case is going to go but

00:49:33.840 i mean generally speaking the other side really has to try and paint you as a liar um twist your

00:49:39.980 words around you know maybe make you think that you're crazy so it's not an easy process by any

00:49:45.560 means so and how are you do you need do you have a fundraiser for your for your legal fees is that's

00:49:51.420 the give send go that's no the give send go goes directly to me and it goes towards therapies and

00:49:58.160 everyday everyday survival yeah good for you i'm so glad and you can help carry as you can see on

00:50:05.500 the bottom there give send go.com slash vax injured gal that's what it is that's just what

00:50:11.880 said legal um so definitely help her if you can i'll just mention yeah carrie has hasn't been

00:50:20.760 able to get things approved via the vis program like the hearing aid that she now needs because

00:50:27.000 of the injury and the glasses that she had to get because of her impaired vision so that's how

00:50:33.720 poorly that injury program is working so just insane and to me maybe this is the most egregious

00:50:41.480 thing and it's probably going to fire you guys up too um you mentioned the the injury program

00:50:48.260 federally it actually started in 2020 they very quickly rushed that out um that service out

00:50:55.240 when these uh jobs were coming out but did you know that quebec has its own vaccine injury

00:51:03.240 support program that was established in 1985 and i heard sherry say that the doctor in lethbridge

00:51:10.280 when she was still in the hospital had to fax these documents to ottawa tell me how that makes

00:51:16.680 any sense that an alberta doctor in lethbridge caring for carrie has to fax documents to ottawa

00:51:25.120 health care isn't is a provincial jurisdiction why why doesn't every province in this country

00:51:31.940 have its own injury support program like quebec has since 1985 so i try to get that out as much

00:51:39.760 us where is alberta's why does this why is this even something we're contemplating it's failed

00:51:47.280 clearly every province should take this under their own jurisdiction and deal with it because

00:51:53.760 they have those uh like carrie mentioned secure programs now provincially with medical data it

00:51:59.760 would be much easier to transfer that information have somebody assess it deal with the issue

00:52:06.320 unless of course they're not trying to be efficient and helpful which was exactly how

00:52:12.080 does somebody push that eva how do you how do you make that happen in this country obviously

00:52:15.840 the gun control would be the best when we're watching the provinces start initiating their own

00:52:20.720 policies within each provinces overstepping you know ottawa how do we do that with something like

00:52:25.360 the the jab injury program well it's something our friend keith wilson uh i kind of got into

00:52:32.720 our brains when we were there is you have to you have to get loud about something and the

00:52:37.440 politicians will follow unfortunately it's not the other way around so via this lawsuit obviously i

00:52:43.360 think that's um a good step but then also we need people and citizens to be talking about this and

00:52:49.920 saying this would make a lot more sense if it's dealt with provincially doctors are here it's run

00:52:56.000 through the province there's absolutely no reason that it should be going to ottawa

00:53:00.320 and especially in alberta right now given the direction albert is taking there's a lot of

00:53:05.280 things that they're trying to be more independent on um this i think would fit the bill very well

00:53:11.380 yeah well and they'd get a lot more care i mean it would be you know they'd get better care i would

00:53:17.780 i hope so anyways on a provincial level and they'd have more resources available to them

00:53:22.320 and probably be able to access those resources faster like i was saying um just when you came

00:53:28.080 on i was about ready to go into a rant about just how ridiculous is it's been five years um

00:53:33.760 more so for some people and they're still waiting for some help and it's this is just unacceptable

00:53:39.620 um they are responsible for this rollout they should be responsible for for the people that

00:53:47.080 have suffered as a result of the choices that our government made um and trying to like you said

00:53:52.340 coerce us so it's it's extremely frustrating especially knowing that you

00:53:57.220 need you know you need the you need help you need these resources your hearing

00:54:00.800 aids your glasses that shouldn't ever come out of your own own pocket yeah I

00:54:06.480 spend thousands of dollars a year on medications that I certainly didn't need

00:54:11.300 before and that the program approved my injury but didn't approve the

00:54:19.820 medications saying that I those medications are not related to the Bell's policy and my doctors

00:54:27.100 have said numerous times my pharmacist has sent in a letter and said no you don't take these

00:54:34.620 medications unless you need it for this this and this but still you know it just sits in a file

00:54:40.880 somewhere I don't know yeah it's infuriating that's infuriating to hear keep trusting this

00:54:46.600 program like it's it's now it's being run by the public health agency of canada like

00:54:52.280 i don't good faith in anybody right now you know and they're just saying trust us you know we've

00:54:58.840 changed it okay okay yeah right i'll never trust them again myself the amount of sleeping canadians

00:55:08.600 out there with their eyes blinded to what's going on right now and we'll get into the next segment

00:55:14.520 of the show when it comes to the online interactions of those people out there that don't agree with

00:55:19.440 your politics and not necessarily your politics the fact that you didn't bow like they did and

00:55:24.840 and uh and they come after you on social media it's about bullying online do you see a lot of

00:55:30.940 that carrie so much so much like uh tamara had said earlier she stays out of her dms um it's hard

00:55:41.740 i have to really be in a good mental place um but i do go in there because um there's people asking

00:55:48.380 for help you know even if it's just they need somebody who believes them and they need to share

00:55:56.220 their story with me um that's been an honor it's also very uh difficult and has kept me up a few

00:56:05.900 nights um just you know all the horrible things that have happened to people um but yes i've had

00:56:13.420 some very awful things i've had people follow me around from different social media things

00:56:20.620 into my give send go leaving messages like people go out of their way to try and tell me

00:56:28.780 what they think i see that on a regular basis too and i know i should always give the advice

00:56:34.940 to to ignore it don't look at your thing block mute whatever you have to do when it comes to

00:56:39.900 social media i of course don't listen to my own advice there very often so do not take advice

00:56:44.860 from me when it comes to internet trolling eva has been a lawyer right from the start eva right

00:56:54.700 also my social media manager i said because i just i'm always online and i just you know

00:57:01.900 it like you said you can't i can't get mad at people you know people have been deceived and so

00:57:09.500 um when someone doesn't believe me that's okay let's have a discussion let me show you how this

00:57:16.140 is real for me and for thousands of other people this is a reality we have not been able to get

00:57:23.500 out of 2021 we are stuck here and um we would love more than anything to move on and not have

00:57:30.220 to talk about it ever again but you know that's not where we are and so um they can see what they

00:57:37.900 want um they get we really won't be there until we have some accountability and some justice i

00:57:44.540 mean you're right we're going to be perpetually stuck in 2021 and 2022 until some of these people

00:57:50.540 that made these decisions are held to account uh so you know and you know as far as your dms go

00:57:57.820 first of all, Carrie, I'm really happy to hear that there's a lot of support in there. And I

00:58:01.060 think that's a testament to how you've conducted yourself. You know, like a true fighter. You're

00:58:07.980 always very positive and hopeful and, and encouraging to other people. And I think a lot

00:58:13.940 of the trolls, I mean, that's what I call them is trolls and bots, it's trolls and bots, a lot of

00:58:19.040 them aren't even real people. But you're so right. I mean, there's days where I know that I don't

00:58:24.760 even want to look at my comments because I know mentally and emotionally I just can't but then

00:58:29.940 there's days like the last couple days because it's been I don't know what's going on but they

00:58:34.500 are out in full force and I'm yeah I'm actually laughing read because everyone is a bunch of

00:58:40.040 names call me terrible name like it's just so obvious it's just so obvious what's going on so

00:58:45.860 I could but you know if I was not in a good mental state I just don't do that because I know that you

00:58:50.540 know some days like you said it's it's uh it's hard to do it's hard to see that stuff yeah sorry

00:58:56.680 go ahead sorry i was just saying it really pisses me off when you when you know some days i look on

00:59:02.740 there like you said you think you're in a good place and then i look and i see somebody says

00:59:07.220 you're faking like oh my god yeah for five years i've been faking this you know like get in line

00:59:14.520 try to disprove it you can't because yes it is what it is you know i'm sorry that it upsets so

00:59:21.400 many people but we are out there you think it has something to do with the fact that maybe

00:59:27.000 they know that they were wrong and instead of admitting maybe that they were wrong they have

00:59:30.840 to double down you know like the government has done for the last how many years and i think it's

00:59:36.280 scary when um i see a psychologist because it is it's really difficult when you believe one way

00:59:44.760 and you live your life a certain way and then something happens and you can see a different

00:59:50.360 perspective and that's what's happened to me and so um it's very difficult to weigh the two in your

00:59:58.760 head um i'm sorry and i forget what i was saying when it comes to me all the time the people out

01:00:07.480 there doubling down on their negativity oh yeah it pisses me off they're like it's on the other side

01:00:15.080 it's not it's like the eye the facial structure doesn't change so people just but it's the bots

01:00:22.040 right and they're they're um they say the most outrageous things and then sometimes you i

01:00:29.240 internalize it and i'm like you know why is this person coming after me and you know you take it

01:00:36.200 personally it's hard over the target carrier that's why they're coming after you and that whenever i

01:00:41.800 want to have some fun and i'm bored and i'm never usually bored but anytime i'm bored i go to my

01:00:46.680 message requests been on all social media and you should see the stuff that people take their time

01:00:52.060 out of their day to act you know if i'm not for you then ignore me but they can't do that right

01:00:58.380 they have to they have to keep coming so yeah and i think one of the most important things too

01:01:04.680 is that we have good friends because sometimes we do need to just talk to each other about you know

01:01:09.360 some of this the crazy online stuff that's happening and we do have we're so lucky that

01:01:14.760 we have found each other I mean that we that we have these relationships and we've established

01:01:19.800 these relationships so that we have support um when when that kind of stuff happens yes so yeah

01:01:27.600 I'll just add to I think Tamara you kind of said it sometimes I look at the comments and just laugh

01:01:33.700 because it's better than crying too they're just so outrageous they actually make me laugh now

01:01:39.560 mostly sometimes i'm just like okay that's a bit much but yeah oh i'm illuminati this week i'm

01:01:45.280 illuminati because i got one eye right oh my gosh i mean literally there's a full facebook page i'd

01:01:56.520 love to call her out but i'm not going to give her the the satisfaction um a person 23 pages of

01:02:02.800 how i'm illuminati oh my gosh you've seen that firsthand carrie like even with with our involvement

01:02:09.320 and the freedom movement we've been accused of just about everything there is to be accused of

01:02:12.920 there's people out there with actual web pages on us trying to expose us there's people out there

01:02:17.640 to this day that we stood there that have it in their head that they're out there to try and just

01:02:21.400 decimate us and our character why because we got more attention than them or because

01:02:27.560 people like us more i'm not sure what it is i've yet to figure that out a psychologist

01:02:31.880 probably would have a hard time figuring that out well and that's a big part of it too and

01:02:37.720 And definitely in Carrie's situation, too.

01:02:41.320 Sometimes, you know, when you start getting attention, some people get jealous or triggered by that.

01:02:45.640 And so they just want to knock you down a peg or something.

01:02:48.940 But, you know, again, it's just it's something all of us in this in this show have experienced that we typically literally experience every single day.

01:02:59.560 I would wager at least I know, according to my social media, I definitely experience it every day.

01:03:03.800 and i've seen it happen to dan hartman uh kayla pollack you know where people just say you're

01:03:08.840 faking it or in dan's case they think say he's lying i mean his son died yes it's it's it's

01:03:15.700 disgusting how how people can can be that way carrie here's a good way to look at it right here

01:03:21.000 you need an eye patch with a pyramid on it that would throw your overload i'm gonna get that and

01:03:28.540 i'm gonna get a bracelet this is house arrest nice i love it

01:03:37.820 oh wow it's a good idea i'm doing that yeah i know that's a good idea i like to poke the bird

01:03:48.780 so what's next for you carrie what do you have coming down the pipe obviously you have the

01:03:52.700 lawsuit and certification that stuff coming up this summer actually that's coming up pretty

01:03:56.540 quickly enough it's in june already it's already april yeah yep so um i'm volunteering with can

01:04:04.300 rise 19 so i'm helping people with paperwork and etc with the back the jab injury program

01:04:11.580 um and just being a person to listen if somebody wants to be in contact with somebody else who's

01:04:17.580 had a similar experience or you know i can connect you with other people that are like us there's a

01:04:23.500 a few communities now that um that are out there that are really great um and i'm just trying to

01:04:30.780 get my i'm doing homeschool with my grade 10 students so we're trying to get through homeschool

01:04:35.420 and then enjoy the summer good oh yeah wow it's got he's got a lot on the go but amazing i'm

01:04:43.020 it's so like i said it just makes me so happy that you you're connected with other people

01:04:47.580 like in the community and helping other people that's that's amazing and it can be exhausting

01:04:52.140 and it can be very emotional too like you said there's a lot of every story that i hear honestly

01:04:58.540 makes me emotional because um it was unnecessary um and it's you know these are life-changing

01:05:06.940 life-altering situations in in many many cases as you very well know

01:05:13.180 yeah a little compassion goes a long way i think we've lost in this country have we not there's

01:05:19.180 just something missing in the the amount of anger the amount of lack of empathy um i don't know what

01:05:25.100 happened to canada but it hasn't been the canada that i was born and raised down and we can

01:05:29.660 evidently see that these days yeah i'll add to me that's been the biggest frustration too is

01:05:37.580 here we have people that are injured where again the government abandoned them and then rather

01:05:43.820 than saying how can we help these people we're getting carrie's getting attacked how does that

01:05:50.060 even make any rational sense and we pretend or claim that we're kind and tolerant people and

01:05:57.980 it's like well we're not if you just look at how people are acting so that's the most disheartening

01:06:05.740 thing i think seeing the attacks on carrie people did their part like that that's what things these

01:06:11.260 people wanted everybody else to do their part to get through this whatever it was back then right

01:06:15.740 and those people went out and did their part and then were mortally injured for life because of it

01:06:21.180 and now there's still no accountability or not even anyone recognizing that there was an issue there

01:06:25.820 does it fall on liability is that why they're being like they are eva well i don't know i think

01:06:31.420 like what carrie said is they they were fed a narrative and they're having a hard time

01:06:35.100 psychologically dealing with it but everything has a risk to suggest that there is no injuries is just

01:06:43.180 ludicrous if you drink too much water you can die you could walk on the street and die like

01:06:49.260 this is a medical treatment there will be injuries let's just acknowledge that like adults and deal

01:06:56.940 with it like adults so in this case carrie has an injury it's been certified or whatever the right

01:07:04.380 word would be by doctors. So let's, that's the starting point. That's the baseline. Let's not

01:07:10.440 demean or shame or say this didn't happen because it does happen. So that's the part I, like, I just,

01:07:17.820 I didn't even think that would be an issue, but to have to deal with people,

01:07:22.920 convince them, Carrie has to defend herself that she's been injured makes absolutely no sense to

01:07:30.140 no like i said these people should be falling all over themselves to help the injured

01:07:35.960 they really should like how can i help you what do you need how can i make your life easier

01:07:41.180 um and instead it i think i think it is a lot of it is that they they don't want to admit this

01:07:46.560 stuff because they know they know i mean let's not kid ourselves everyone in everyone in the

01:07:51.460 whole world knows what happened everyone in the whole world is watching the fallout of what

01:07:55.660 happened and the and the decisions that were made um so it's just like everything else it's like our

01:08:01.620 criminal case it's like the invocation of the emergencies act and this is no different these

01:08:07.360 are the people that will never admit that they're wrong and when you start to push back they even

01:08:12.400 though they know they're wrong they still dig their heels in and double down and that's we're

01:08:17.480 seeing that happen with this vaccine injury support program too you know they'll just never admit it

01:08:22.620 um they'll never admit that they're wrong like i said they just double down constantly

01:08:29.080 just just going going back to quebec having a vaccine injury support program since 1905

01:08:35.920 so what's that created for because there are injuries like let's just admit that speaking

01:08:44.080 of there was a horrible injury a few years ago and his name is sean hartman and there is a

01:08:51.100 documentary that has been made about sean hartman's story and carrie i was watching your social media

01:08:55.920 feeds a little while ago you attended tomorrow you attended to eva probably um give us your

01:09:00.900 i what were your thoughts when you watched the documentary on sean hartman's story

01:09:05.400 so well done heart-wrenching um why it's not being shown anywhere and everywhere i don't

01:09:13.900 understand um we often get labeled as anti-vax even though we because we have strong opinions

01:09:20.280 about this you know um and so politicians don't want to touch it um movie theaters don't want to

01:09:27.160 touch it um it's a very fine line that we have to walk um to try and get exposed but i think

01:09:35.280 dan's doing an amazing job he um he is fighting really hard for what he believes is right like

01:09:45.160 we are all doing and um uh he's waiting for a big decision to come down the line and in the meantime

01:09:53.640 he's just you know trying to get the word out there get the story out there the more people

01:09:57.880 that know about sean's story the better well this the documentary is called the shot and i'm going

01:10:04.120 to read this off my phone here and i'm going to announce there is a date now booked for swift

01:10:09.480 current saskatchewan my hometown and i will be able to take my leisure time each week we're allowed

01:10:15.000 six, I'm allowed six weeks, six hours per week, and I've agreed to attend Victory Family Church

01:10:20.380 on April 20th. It starts at 7 p.m. I'm not sure how much the tickets are. I don't imagine they're

01:10:27.200 very much at all, and I need people to go to supportshawn.ca, or you can see, there's links

01:10:34.320 for it on Facebook if you Google it, Vic, but supportshawn.ca, get your tickets. All the

01:10:40.120 information is on there for where they're playing, and it's not just Swift Current. This is playing

01:10:44.020 all across the country do your part to try and get this out um dan hartman's an amazing man has

01:10:49.480 been through an enormous amount i can't imagine and sean has a story that needs to be told there

01:10:54.700 because story you know sean sean's not here right now to tell that story so somebody has to be

01:10:59.760 and i will be at the church that night on my leisure time and i can't wait to watch this

01:11:05.160 documentary so please people will share that link out for uh for support sean.ca get your tickets

01:11:11.420 make sure you know you're going to be there and i can't wait to see that place packed

01:11:14.880 i don't think they charge anything for admission i think they just take donations if you get there

01:11:20.720 and i believe um jason told me that um all the proceeds go directly to dan um so that which is

01:11:28.500 pretty good yeah and of course if you want to if you want to donate to help jason with that

01:11:33.660 project too there's that option also but i mean as far as i know i think all the admission is free

01:11:38.240 to go see it so i should really set the link up here with tasha and she can uh i'll do that right

01:11:44.200 now so she already did oh there's no stopping that girl she's on it i'm telling you she's a keeper

01:11:50.800 she's already got it up there that's right good job well i think it's just so important to get

01:11:56.200 all of these stories out and carrie i just can't thank you enough for for coming on tonight and

01:12:02.300 sharing your story i definitely want to have you back um in a few weeks time so we can get an

01:12:07.000 update on how you're doing maybe just after after your guys's hearing in june if you if that works

01:12:12.380 for you um and get an update and see what's happening and in the meantime obviously if

01:12:17.000 there's anything ever that we can do to help you uh personally or with your case i mean never be

01:12:23.520 afraid to reach out i appreciate everything you and chris have done it's i can't even describe

01:12:30.540 how much difference you've made in the lives of so many and thank you for speaking up and giving

01:12:36.580 space to have conversations like this. Well, it's important. We've got to get these stories out.

01:12:44.080 Yeah, we've got to get these stories out. Carrie does a great job providing updates on the legal

01:12:49.100 case, even though sometimes it gets pretty complicated. She does a really great job with

01:12:53.080 it. Like, Eva, how do you explain this?

01:12:57.680 It's hard because it's so hard to follow. I mean, honestly, there were so many days that I saw it

01:13:04.700 court and chris is like taking notes diligently and i'm like playing get galaxica on my phone

01:13:09.740 because i'm like i don't even i don't it's all nonsense anyways right like i'm like why am i

01:13:14.300 even here really but but it's really hard to follow it's so dry and so boring um for people

01:13:22.620 sorry eva i'm sure it's super exciting for you lawyers and that actually understand everything

01:13:27.980 that's going on in there i mean it's probably you know excellent and tons of fun but for people that

01:13:33.500 like us yeah no i always say every day is not like suits you sit in front of your computer

01:13:40.540 yeah that's right yeah it's not quite on that little notebook that i wrote all my notes in

01:13:44.540 during the course of a trial did you ever look over and see what i was actually writing because

01:13:48.060 sometimes it was like i'm not gonna say it i've used a lot of things and i would never use on

01:13:55.020 social media again and they're all written in my book i'm going to write a book someday i just don't

01:13:59.420 know when i'm gonna have time so hey uh danny bulford again tom gave you an excellent idea just

01:14:06.860 ai just drive down the road and tell ai your story and then it pop it pop it into a book for you this

01:14:12.300 is 2026 man i guess i could do that yes i was driving so i have to be careful uh well before

01:14:21.660 we let you guys go um for i want to say thank you so so much for coming on again tonight eva really

01:14:26.700 appreciate that you were able to take time i know you're so so busy where you got a lot going on too

01:14:32.060 is there any final thoughts that you would like to add before we let you guys go for the evening

01:14:37.340 i'm just going to say again to follow the case again it's on wrath and co wrath and company

01:14:42.940 website the brief is there the evidence is there i think we have a very strong case if you could

01:14:48.620 tune in in june that's great but also if you're in alberta or provincially anywhere actually talk to

01:14:53.900 your mlas and government officials about why you don't have a provincial injury support program

01:14:59.660 like quebec has had since 1985 that would make the most sense take it away from the federal

01:15:05.100 government where it makes no sense that it's being delivered 4 000 kilometers away for some

01:15:11.820 unnamed bureaucrat that's never seen carrie laid eyes on her um treated her

01:15:20.300 um to make any decisions about her health is just nonsense absolutely well i mean as we know it's

01:15:27.900 just like anything that ottawa runs just seems to be like a money laundering it just goes to

01:15:33.260 their friends who they hire to consult this and consult that and you know it's uh but you're

01:15:38.460 absolutely right you know that's i did know that quebec had their own vaccine injury program i did

01:15:43.420 but i think this is that you're onto something there eva we should be pushing for that we should

01:15:47.340 absolutely be pushing for that i'm making a note yeah i'm making a note carrie any final thoughts

01:15:53.900 before we let you go for your long easter weekend um i wish i had something inspirational to say

01:16:03.340 um i'm gonna keep fighting and um i'm still here and if anybody is injured or knows somebody who's

01:16:12.380 injured and has some questions feel free to reach out to me um i like con or love contacting other

01:16:18.620 people and talking about what's going on we appreciate and your stamina you are a true

01:16:26.540 fighter carrie and and don't ever let anyone take that from you and don't listen to the online hate

01:16:31.340 and that because that just deters you from speaking out more actually speak more so yeah

01:16:36.540 like i said we're so proud of you we're so proud of you like i know how hard it is to really put

01:16:40.860 yourself out there and you are doing an amazing job thank you absolutely amazing job okay well we

01:16:47.200 will let you guys go and have a happy easter you guys enjoy your long weekend and have a very safe

01:16:52.160 and happy easter thank you thank you thanks for coming wow that's just honestly that's so

01:17:00.560 inspirational i mean you know you and i were talking last week about all the things that

01:17:04.780 we've been through but you know it's really nothing compared to um you know some of the

01:17:09.940 stuff that our friends have been through you know we got kevin street we got michelle warden we got

01:17:15.300 you know kayla paula carrie uh how many ashley how many other stories that people don't know

01:17:22.820 about and if we can give like you said before we could do this every week and have these people on

01:17:28.420 and and we're trying to do our part on this and i hope people are getting it i hope people are

01:17:32.500 sharing it subscribe and share right keep yeah yeah we got it we got to keep pushing them out

01:17:38.100 there and we got to make people aware i mean like i said it's it's just frustrates me that these

01:17:44.020 organizations government-run organizations are just like ignoring these guys they're human beings

01:17:49.540 you know they need health care they need to be looked after this is a direct result of the

01:17:54.380 policies and decisions made by our federal government um and that people were shamed

01:17:59.960 and guilted and coerced um and forced to to take part in you know a lot i never did but i mean i

01:18:07.460 was very fortunate i didn't work in a place where you know that was going to happen and i had long

01:18:12.280 made up my mind that if it did i just wasn't going to do it but people had families to feed

01:18:16.680 they had mortgages to pay they didn't want to you know it was it's it's um like i said they should

01:18:22.420 be falling all over themselves to make sure um that the our friends have help get the help and

01:18:28.360 the resources that they need how many people you know have noticed the increase in the cancer rates

01:18:33.660 or the heart issues um my ex-wife i'll give an update on her she had a mastectomy about a month

01:18:39.800 ago and she is now on uh radiation right now and she has a stint of radiation for i believe three

01:18:45.240 weeks now when they did the surgery on her they missed a tiny portion of it and they caught it

01:18:50.520 right away so they're trying to zap that with radiation but you know um that's a hell of a

01:18:55.940 she's been through a battle in the last year and i just you know i can't imagine our poor children

01:19:01.640 And Sierra and Jonathan, having to deal with the crap that their dad's been going through

01:19:06.180 and the media and everything else, and then get the news that their mother is entering

01:19:09.240 the space of her life has been a lot on them.

01:19:12.960 So, and that's, you know, this is somebody that did the gene test to find out if there

01:19:17.520 was any cancer history in her family history, and there was none.

01:19:21.500 But she was forced to get that because of her work.

01:19:24.260 And she had to, you know, retire a year.

01:19:26.500 she retired in a year early

01:19:28.740 later than she anticipated on

01:19:30.760 because of this life-changing

01:19:32.240 thing that happened so

01:19:34.640 she's yeah

01:19:36.500 well I just talked to my next door neighbor

01:19:38.220 a couple weeks ago and they've lost

01:19:40.740 six people in their families

01:19:42.380 since December

01:19:43.820 wow

01:19:45.260 maybe November actually

01:19:48.580 I think it was November but I mean still

01:19:50.520 it's

01:19:51.960 yeah

01:19:53.880 and like how many people are are how many people are not telling their stories on this how many

01:19:58.520 people have not reached out for help um there's so many more we know bob from ontario and

01:20:02.900 unfortunately bob can't you know his voice has gone now to come on and i was thinking about

01:20:06.840 messaging michelle ferrari just to say like would you be able to interview bob so we could get bob's

01:20:13.000 story out personally with somebody interpreting you know and uh oh that will be something to come

01:20:18.300 because we we need to keep these episodes going so we should yeah we should figure that out how

01:20:22.560 we can facilitate that and make that work because i'm sure there's some way that we can you know

01:20:26.340 if he's feeling up to coming on um i think we should we should do that so i've got and we've

01:20:32.720 got a few people that we're going to reach out oh your mic again your mic cut up there for a second

01:20:43.100 you know we also have kevin street right now and if anybody's not following kevin street story uh

01:20:48.480 He's very prominent on Facebook.

01:20:50.320 That's where I normally see Kevin's stuff.

01:20:52.160 He's trying a new therapy right now, and it actually seems like it's working.

01:20:55.680 So if anybody can give Kevin Street a little follow on Facebook, he's pretty easy to find.

01:21:00.880 I've met him a number of times.

01:21:02.460 Amazing man.

01:21:04.340 I would love to have him on.

01:21:05.780 I wonder if he would come on in May.

01:21:07.440 We actually had the absolute pleasure of going to his house and doing a long-form interview with him.

01:21:13.180 We should play some clips on that.

01:21:15.400 Oh, yeah.

01:21:15.680 uh you know he just takes everything in stride it's so frustrating for kevin i know but you know

01:21:20.640 he he was selling t-shirts that said don't be a kevin you know so like he's he's really owned

01:21:30.000 so that's that's the thing there's so many of these people that um their strength in character

01:21:37.120 they've just there's so much ahead of them um like you said michelle wharton i mean her story is just

01:21:42.800 absolutely you know like these these people are true fighters but they're also not just fighting

01:21:48.480 for their own lives and their families they're putting themselves out there kayla carrie dan

01:21:54.560 um michelle they're really putting themselves out there um to advocate for these people and

01:22:00.000 get the help that they need and keep the pressure on and provide resources you know to the injured

01:22:05.200 so you know hats off to all of them hats off because they've got their own struggles to deal

01:22:09.600 with too but they're still trying to help everybody else you know yeah when we went to kevin's house

01:22:15.680 we were invited to kevin's house in ontario and just just interview and have a conversation with

01:22:20.480 him and get something on camera and the guy made us the most amazing french fries and poutine

01:22:25.680 you could ever imagine and this is somebody that used to used to do this for a living and now has

01:22:31.280 been you know paralyzed from from doing what he loves to do but yet still gathered the strength

01:22:37.040 to get that air fryer out or deep fryer whatever it was and make us some amazing meal while we

01:22:41.760 were there so appreciative yeah awesome well i would love to have kevin on in may i don't know

01:22:47.000 if he's still in the audience in the community or in the chat or not but i'll reach out to him and

01:22:51.500 see if he would love to if he would come on in may we'll get uh we'll get our injured guest lined up

01:22:56.540 for may um as for you what do you have on the go for easter and the rest of your week well i'm

01:23:04.600 praying my probation officer never did email me back when I said are you working on Monday because

01:23:09.980 I have a load to go up northern Alberta that I loaded today so I hope we plan our schedules off

01:23:18.340 by week by week and she's the first when we first started it was like okay I want to know what your

01:23:22.380 schedule is for the entire week on Monday and I will plan it out so that wasn't working so we got

01:23:27.940 her down to twice a week Mondays and Wednesdays so my job changes I was supposed to go to Wynyard

01:23:32.600 today that load fell through and then i went to roll out of richie brothers and loaded a load

01:23:37.800 um so obviously you know i'm out working and that was okay so i'm home now and i'll be home for the

01:23:43.640 weekend but now you know i i can't leave on sunday for northern alberta i have to leave monday

01:23:48.920 morning but not until nine o'clock because that's when the email comes in so you're working around

01:23:53.640 the government if she gets it done yeah it's a little frustrating and it's been something to

01:23:59.800 try and work with um but yeah what's your week look like well i am actually heading up to calgary

01:24:07.320 on tuesday to do my very first presentation at the university so tasha and i have been working

01:24:12.760 very hard on that and i have to give a huge thank you to tasha um she's done a lot of work to help

01:24:18.440 me get prepared for this too um so i'm going to go up and do a presentation called the state of

01:24:23.640 democracy and lessons learned from grassroots movement because i think we did learn a few of

01:24:27.880 those lessons did we not what really i've never heard my gosh

01:24:35.640 so um yeah i'm gonna give it a little plug i'm heading up there on tuesday

01:24:40.120 uh you can go to the tamaraproject.com um if you want more information

01:24:45.080 obviously uh i'm having a ball with rebel they

01:24:48.040 they're just amazing we did that uh tour that speaking tour

01:24:51.880 so now i'll be heading up to calgary to start this so you can go

01:24:55.160 if you're following rebel news on the tamara project you can you can get all the updates

01:24:58.680 on what i've been up to we're just going to be releasing like kind of a 90-day montage of what

01:25:02.760 i've been up to with rebel so that was lots of fun uh and you and i just did a uh a two-part

01:25:08.680 interview actually we did it once but they split into two videos so those those came out and uh

01:25:13.720 it still surprises me how many people uh just still love to hear from us you know and uh but

01:25:19.160 i'm so grateful um to rebel for for giving me this position and for you know i live like four

01:25:24.760 years without a paycheck like that is that's a long time yeah find somebody to give you a job

01:25:30.200 when you're going through the court system like that um and i heard tara i seen on social media

01:25:35.000 today there's a possibility that ezra levant will be there in calgary with you to to help out with

01:25:39.160 the evening and sheila are coming so yeah that was really nice i'm gonna fly in and then we found

01:25:45.880 yeah so sheila gun reed's gonna be there too so yeah so we'll be doing i'll be doing my presentation

01:25:52.280 and uh they'll be there too we're going to do a q a and really hoping that really hoping that we

01:25:56.600 can get a lot of uh young of the students out you know i mean it's so important we go to all these

01:26:02.280 events and uh there's not usually a lot of young people there so here's what i'll say even about

01:26:06.680 the um the independence tour that we just did we were on this tour and the demographic is obviously

01:26:11.880 our age or older mostly there's there is some young people that come out um but they've got

01:26:16.360 better things to do on a friday night or a thursday nights but they are showing up at the petition

01:26:20.920 signings there is a lot of young people that are showing up at the petition signings they just don't

01:26:25.640 go to all you know all of these type events but um so i'm really hoping i've met so many wonderful

01:26:31.700 young people um i just did i was just actually interviewed by one from campbell river who's in

01:26:37.260 grade 12 she's homeschooled but she was doing a project for school so we got she asked if i would

01:26:42.700 talk to her about um you know my experience and uh i remember shortly after our book tour when

01:26:50.180 hold the line came out we did a tour um that summer and there was a 10 year old girl that i

01:26:55.620 also met out in bc and she actually ended up doing a book report on my book which was very brave um

01:27:03.620 there's a lot of there's a lot of people in education that don't necessarily support us but

01:27:07.940 there's also a lot of people that do support us and i thought you know for a 10 year old kid that's

01:27:12.580 that's brave so i have a lot of hope for our future um i hope we get lots of lots of young

01:27:19.620 minds out there and ask some tough questions ask some good questions well that's maybe the place

01:27:24.120 to go to the university to have that conversation so let's just hope that people come out and hear

01:27:28.780 what you have to say and ask questions or try and have that debate if they think differently and

01:27:32.980 keep it civil and positive and let's hope let's hope yeah it's going to be really exciting i'm

01:27:38.300 super excited about it so uh chris i want to wish you a very happy easter um and i hope you guys

01:27:44.500 have a great weekend say hi to rayelle for me i want to say thank you to all of you guys for

01:27:49.940 showing up tonight and participating i didn't read the comments i really wanted to focus on

01:27:53.960 on our guests and of course you know thank you to carrie and eva for taking time out of their

01:27:58.360 days to come on um we'll definitely have them back have them back and of course tasha thank you

01:28:03.680 right there she's handy she's awesome she's got it all exactly yeah exactly so um any final words

01:28:11.520 Chris before I let you go everybody enjoy the the Easter holiday and like I said at the beginning

01:28:16.160 of it it's not about chocolates and Easter bunnies it's about about Jesus so we'll have to try and

01:28:23.360 remember that if you're a spiritual person you'll understand and then have some time with the family

01:28:27.720 and make sure you're thankful for what you have so appreciate everyone out there absolutely yeah

01:28:33.480 we love you guys you take care and I don't know what we're gonna do next week but this is how we

01:28:38.820 rock and roll we'll figure that out sometimes we have a plan but even when we totally plan it out

01:28:48.720 it never seems to work out that way anyways anyways everyone have a great night thank you

01:28:52.780 so much for joining us thanks again to carrie and eva and tasha um have a great weekend and

01:28:57.660 we will see you guys on thursday next week have a great week

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House Arrest - April 03, 2026

Ep. 22 Carrie Sakamoto

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