House Arrest - Ep. 25 - Jeff Evely

00:00:00.000 how's it going everybody welcome to house arrest episode 25

00:00:28.720 five can you believe it it is episode 25 i can't believe it marbles upstairs right now so somebody's

00:00:36.240 obviously driving by or the wind blew and he thinks he hears something so ignore him if you

00:00:40.640 can i don't know if this microphone picks him up or not oh that's okay that's zippy zippy yeah

00:00:47.920 he's a great guard dog we've been working in the shop all day big red has a brownie on the

00:00:53.280 the driver's side uh the factory original one little hole in it and uh i gotta put tires on it

00:00:59.180 so i had uh i had tires on my old old blue my winter truck that needed to get uh that were

00:01:05.660 really really nice shape so i am flipping them over to big red right now so i've officially

00:01:09.420 done eight out of 16 my body's sore and uh wow how's your way that's pretty good actually i mean

00:01:19.200 other than my usual you know political raging there's just been so much nonsense that has

00:01:24.320 just happened i can't uh it's it's hard to wrap your head around um but other than that it was

00:01:29.900 good it was busy i am actually in vancouver this evening um i was just letting telling you i've

00:01:35.220 got my laptop set up on an ironing board in my hotel room um actually uh bc place is right here

00:01:42.300 right looking out the window yes so i'm here for uh with rebel obviously for the canada strong and

00:01:49.500 free convention tomorrow that's taking place here downtown at the marriott so that should be a lot

00:01:54.240 of fun i actually the first person i ran into here was john carpe no coincidence yeah he's

00:02:00.260 gonna be here today too john carpe from the jccf our very good friend yeah we walked into the

00:02:05.040 elevator and there he was he must have just arrived also so so yeah i got myself a work

00:02:12.200 exemption and uh yeah here i am i've been broke down great i uh well not broke down but my fuel

00:02:20.240 tank was leaking and uh i needed to get it fixed because it's dripping on the ground everywhere i

00:02:25.480 go so and it's been kind of a struggle and i come down in the office and do a pile of paperwork and

00:02:29.960 got caught up on my billing and if there's any farmers out there that book to drill with me

00:02:34.380 right now and i forgot about you i apologize i think we're about 25 drills behind right now

00:02:38.740 and the snow is coming and it's messing everybody up on schedules and every time we get stuck in

00:02:42.980 weather we get pushed back and we're trying to keep everybody happy right now but it's just that

00:02:48.580 time of year and of course you you have even more problems because you have to try and schedule as

00:02:53.220 much as you possibly can with your probation officer how did your meeting go with her by the

00:02:56.740 way this week you went in on tuesday morning it was productive yeah we uh we had some in-depth

00:03:02.660 conversations uh the one thing that i think was she was wanting me to acknowledge was uh

00:03:07.460 responsibility for my actions and i kind of had i had a hard or aggressive conversation with her

00:03:13.620 and i just said i i i didn't honk a horn in downtown ottawa i didn't you know tell anybody

00:03:18.180 to honk the horn in ottawa except for if police were coming down the street to kill you which was

00:03:22.820 this um you know a safety issue to warn people um i worked with city police for three weeks straight

00:03:29.460 trying to alleviate the problems in the downtown core i did everything in my power to try and

00:03:33.460 work with every you know law enforcement or city person i i definitely didn't want any hardship so

00:03:38.500 but here i am in uh house arrests and i i'm sorry that that you feel that i need to i lack

00:03:45.220 responsibility but i feel the way yeah it's it's yeah it's hard to um i'm lucky i think i've got

00:03:55.300 a pretty good one i wanted to show you this thing with what i think i posted it today if i can find

00:04:00.180 it this is the crazy thing about i gotta share my screen please bear with me guys

00:04:09.060 um so i posted this today i don't know if you saw this but here's this gentleman can everybody see

00:04:19.460 that i won't play the video um can you see it in there oh no it won't i gotta bring it up first

00:04:26.740 sorry there we go oh sorry tasha

00:04:33.380 uh i don't know if you can read it anyways so i'll read this um this gentleman um this is from

00:04:39.460 the daily loud uh but it was all over twitter today a terrorist who stormed a canadian military

00:04:44.660 recruitment center and stabbed a corporal because allah told him to come here and kill people

00:04:50.100 has been granted permission to fly to mecca to can and continue to somalia to go get a wife

00:04:56.500 essentially he's off to go find himself a wife um and the reason i posted about that today was

00:05:03.400 because i had to explain to my three-year-old grandson the other night um why i can't take him

00:05:09.360 to the water park that's a block away from our house and this this this fine young man

00:05:16.300 tries to murder um a serving member of our military and just gets to fly off and go look

00:05:24.580 for his wife and an arranged marriage no less make it make sense in this country please there's a

00:05:31.020 double standard right now in especially in the justice system it i see it every day there was a

00:05:37.180 murder charge in ontario that got the guy got four years in in jail federal penitentiary for murder

00:05:43.780 like it's all 17 pounds of fentanyl that was caught in surf current and transport truck

00:05:51.360 stayed the charges you know queen romana or whatever the heck her crazy name is there is out

00:05:57.240 on you know that one stayed and she basically held people hostage and

00:06:01.220 to get to put that out yep this craziness it is you know whatever like i said

00:06:21.300 i'm totally cool with serving the sentence you know we're six months in already i'm fine you're

00:06:27.380 fine we're still living our lives as best as we can i mean there's some challenges but but you

00:06:32.820 know it's the two-tier justice system and how these people get treated compared to us you're

00:06:38.500 like you said you know these these really light sentences or no sentences or um absolute discharges

00:06:44.980 because you know it gets old when you you know when you consider that we're we're serving a

00:06:50.720 sentence for mischief mischief and our trial was two years in length and 60 days in court while

00:06:56.620 people spend you know two years in remand waiting for a court date we were taking up extra court

00:07:01.680 dates for the crown to prove his malicious prosecution case basically is what the way i

00:07:07.040 feel but it is what it is we do have a lawyer in chat here tonight and she's watching probably

00:07:12.360 saying chris calm down yeah that's right well and we're gonna get rocking here i'm gonna introduce

00:07:18.920 our guest because we only have allison for a very short time um so tonight we're very excited to

00:07:25.960 welcome uh our good friend jeff evely to the show canadian veteran he lives out on cape breton

00:07:31.640 uh nova scotia and allison payovic she we actually met allison she was um one of the

00:07:37.560 the lawyers that had originally flown in with the five lawyers to the Freedom Convoy. So a real

00:07:42.660 pleasure to have them join us. I'm going to play this short clip here from Jeff and I'm going to

00:07:46.400 bring him on and we're going to talk about this case. Hey everybody, Jeff Evely here. I'm in

00:07:53.380 Petersfield Provincial Park in the most tyrannical province of Canada which is Nova Scotia with my

00:07:59.220 fuzzy friend Axel where we walk pretty much every single morning and here you can see that this area

00:08:06.140 is taped off because that trail is the woods, but this area is not taped off because that's not the

00:08:17.680 woods. This area is taped off because that's the woods, and there is a sign here that says trail

00:08:27.900 closed due to extreme fire hazards. So that is the woods. This area is not the woods. This area

00:08:38.940 is the woods. This area is not the woods. This area is the woods. This area is not the woods.

00:08:52.440 this area is the woods this area is not the woods this area is the woods

00:09:06.080 this area is not the woods

00:09:11.560 effective 4 p.m today we're telling Nova Scotians stay out of the woods the fine for violating any

00:09:20.520 of these bans? $25,000. When we try to take these cases to court, especially around our

00:09:27.360 charter rights and our human rights, there's a lot of bad precedent being set. $28,870.50.

00:09:37.600 A Nova Scotia Supreme Court judge has ruled that the provincial government made an unreasonable

00:09:44.180 decision last year in banning most people from entering the woods to prevent wildfires during

00:09:50.260 extreme drought the decision said that the province-wide ban from august of 2025

00:09:56.500 failed to consider the impact on charter rights

00:10:01.780 all those pesky charter rights they get in the way don't they jeff yeah i think they're called

00:10:07.460 loopholes uh according to houston that's that's what our charter rights are they're called loopholes

00:10:13.060 yes well welcome jeff and allison it's so great to see you guys and congratulations

00:10:17.700 on this mat well i think it was a massive win um in court absolutely and i just can't wait to hear

00:10:23.940 all about it so welcome to house arrest with chris and tamara thanks for having us yeah thanks so

00:10:29.940 much for having us it's great to be here so as you can see by the video um actually jeff when you did

00:10:35.220 that video last fall about this is the woods this is not the woods i don't even know how many times

00:10:39.140 i watched it because i thought it was so fantastic and hilarious um and then you guys were just in

00:10:45.780 court last week uh there's also a video where you went to the um natural natural resource office

00:10:52.260 there in nova scotia you walked in you let the officers know exactly what you were planning to

00:10:56.820 do and why you were doing it and they seemed like they were pretty gracious to you and um you got

00:11:01.300 you got the ticket as a result for 25 000 plus a victim fee plus some other fees you want to tell

00:11:09.700 us the tell us how that all broke down um so it was 25 000 plus court fees plus victim fees plus

00:11:16.740 taxes so it came to 28 872 dollars and 50 cents um yeah and i uh i guess i i made an appointment

00:11:26.660 is what i did if if i am to tell the full story here i would have to go all the way back to 2023

00:11:32.500 because they actually imposed the same ban in 2023 now that was the worst wildfire season in

00:11:38.020 our history but at the same time i live on an island so there's a natural fire break between

00:11:43.220 me and mainland nova scotia it's called the strait of canso and it's two kilometers of ocean so no

00:11:49.380 fire in the history of nova scotia has ever jumped the strait of canso and i would have had to have

00:11:54.100 driven eight hours to get to the barington fire so i thought that that was overbought at that time

00:11:59.860 and i actually tried to take them to court on my own just self-representing with an application

00:12:04.740 for judicial review in light of our charter rights and the judge said that i didn't have standing

00:12:09.540 because i wasn't fined so when they came in with the ban in 2025 i knew exactly what i had to do

00:12:17.060 i had to go and take the fine in order to get these measures reviewed in light of our charter

00:12:22.180 rights um so i called dnr ahead of time and i made an appointment for me to go in and get my fine

00:12:28.980 and the supervisor told me that it uh it'd be best if i came in at shift change around four o'clock

00:12:34.740 So, uh, I went down to the office, made a quick video back and I went inside and like

00:12:41.380 you said, I told them exactly what I had to do.

00:12:43.340 And, um, I, I was, uh, I was pretty clear, I think about the fact that I wasn't trying

00:12:49.220 to make any trouble for them, but a judge actually told me that I had to get the fine

00:12:54.660 in order to get into the court.

00:12:55.960 So nothing personal guys, but, um, you know, it's, it's just a little paperwork that I

00:13:01.900 need from you um in order to hopefully rein this government in a little bit but apparently um not

00:13:09.380 so much because uh tyrantini houston was just in the news today saying he'll do it again

00:13:14.480 nothing stops these guys yeah allison were you representing jeff on this case when it come to

00:13:21.680 the courts yes i was working with my colleague marty moore and uh we you know as soon as we saw

00:13:28.780 that this ban went into effect uh we sort of you know chatted with each other and said how absurd

00:13:35.720 and uh we saw jeff's videos on twitter and uh next thing you know you know we're filing an

00:13:41.660 application for judicial review and so uh it's been a it's been a whirlwind uh since the start

00:13:48.020 last august and you know here we are uh after a victory that uh you know jeff is a real hero for

00:13:54.860 for sticking this out and for you know bringing them to the table and forcing them to to come to

00:14:00.780 court and so yeah i'm just so thrilled that we were able to be part of it one thing i should

00:14:05.500 mention is uh is allison and marty are both lawyers for the justice center for constitutional

00:14:10.380 freedoms who have been defending uh people you know for quite a few many years now uh gccf was

00:14:16.620 with us in ottawa and in in freedom convoy and they've been standing behind as many many good

00:14:21.660 people as they can and we really appreciate the gccf thank you absolutely well it's it's great

00:14:28.860 that you it's just so great that this organization is there to come and help people like us and jeff

00:14:34.380 and like you said i mean jeff sacrificed so much just serving in the military and then he gets out

00:14:38.780 of the military and then you know he's at the freedom convoy facing law fair from those things

00:14:43.820 and then he was back at ruling thunder and i know you had a lot of um problems over the ruling

00:14:48.700 thunder thing and then you know so you're just still sacrificing jeff to you know bring awareness

00:14:54.300 to all of these issues that are happening here like i gotta echo albison you're a hero i can't

00:14:59.500 think you're not absolutely yeah i i really can't help myself and i was met up in 2021

00:15:10.860 when the security is really rampant on that.

00:15:14.820 Even though COVID-19 has to do with the CDC

00:15:18.740 who has an accident and the person who has an accident

00:15:22.280 in the Ombudsman way it is in November.

00:15:26.600 Your mic's a little off.

00:15:28.620 Something's happened to your mic there, Jeff.

00:15:30.160 Uh-oh, okay.

00:15:32.740 Is that better?

00:15:34.240 Yeah, that's okay.

00:15:36.960 Well, I was just saying it was bad timing for me

00:15:39.220 to get out of the military in September of 2021 because the full-scale tyranny really hit

00:15:43.040 in about November 2021 when the Omicron wave came and they had the vaccine. And at that point,

00:15:50.040 they were like, okay, everybody is going to take it now. And actually, that was the first time I

00:15:55.000 got arrested post-military career was in November of 2021 because I was actually standing in line

00:16:03.340 at the Nova Scotia Liquor Commission buying my medically prescribed cannabis and they

00:16:10.480 came out and said like everybody's got a mask up and I said no I'm exempt because that was

00:16:14.340 what I was doing at the time and they said no we're not we're not doing any exemptions

00:16:17.940 everybody's got a mask up and I was like well you can't do that that's a human rights violation

00:16:22.680 it's discrimination on the basis of an irrational fear of contracting a disease and that's

00:16:29.120 Prohibitive Grounds for Discrimination, one of the Nova Scotia Human Rights Act. So you have to

00:16:34.200 serve me. You can't deny me service on this basis. And anyway, they called the cops and they didn't

00:16:39.760 leave. Yeah. So I got arrested. And that was kind of what I was doing before the convoy actually

00:16:47.520 was just defying mandates, filing human rights complaints, trying to get them into court.

00:16:52.560 um and uh then the convoy happened and honestly like i had been off social media for over a year

00:16:59.160 or something like that i had no idea there was ever even anything like a freedom movement or

00:17:03.380 the people were starting to um engage on any of these issues i just wasn't aware and then when

00:17:09.860 the freedom convoy happened i was like oh my god i'm not alone so i i knew exactly where i had to

00:17:14.880 be and um well um you know i guess the rest is history it was an honor and a privilege with so

00:17:23.940 many vets in ottawa i gotta tell you that i was some of the proudest days walking downtown and

00:17:27.940 meeting so many people from all across the country that were you know serving our country

00:17:31.520 putting their lives on the line and here they're standing with us in ottawa it was uh it was an

00:17:36.900 honor yeah it was uh i i think i don't think i ever felt so good in my life as i did while i

00:17:44.260 was at the Freedom Convoy that was by far like hands down the most overwhelming display

00:17:53.940 of true loving patriotism that I have ever seen. Never felt so proud of my service, never

00:17:59.920 felt so proud to be a Canadian. It was something really special like we've never seen.

00:18:06.100 And we got to meet all good people like you guys.

00:18:10.820 Exactly. Alison, tell us a little about what's coming up for court now. Do you think there's

00:18:15.620 a chance that the courts or the government will appeal this decision that was overturned?

00:18:23.380 I mean, I can't speculate as to what they're going to do, but I can say that the decision was

00:18:31.220 very solid in the sense that the Supreme Court of Canada in the Dory decision and followed up

00:18:37.460 by a case called Commission Scholaire has held repeatedly that when an administrative decision

00:18:44.620 maker makes a decision that engages charter interests, that's values and rights, even if

00:18:50.800 the right is not infringed, as long as rights are engaged in the action that they want to take,

00:18:58.040 that there has to be evidence that the government considered those charter interests. And

00:19:06.660 engaged with them? Meaning, you know, there has to be something written down that says that they

00:19:13.260 considered that in this case, mobility rights would be engaged by a total ban of walking in

00:19:20.820 the forest. And is there no way that this policy can be structured or drafted that would

00:19:27.740 um be you know the the most minimally impairing um is there any other option other than banning

00:19:36.640 everyone from the forest and you know maybe the government would say well no we can't do anything

00:19:41.340 else because this this this this and this but we've but we've thought about it we've understood

00:19:45.620 that that you know liberty and and freedom of movement is going to be engaged here but we've

00:19:50.960 we've we've thought about it we've met on it and these are the reasons why it doesn't work or or

00:19:55.560 maybe we've met on it and now we're going to do something a little different to take that into

00:20:01.180 account. But they didn't do any of that here. And that was required by the Supreme Court of Canada.

00:20:05.860 You really can't get around it. So they did not, in any of their documents, use the word charter

00:20:12.040 at all. What they did was they considered the interests of commercial industries. They considered

00:20:20.000 that the forest industry needed access to the forest to go about their, to continue their

00:20:24.920 businesses and and other people that relied on the forest to um for their income they considered

00:20:31.880 those those industries interests but there's there's actually a section called legal in their

00:20:37.640 in their decision making when the documents that were produced in the in the case it's called legal

00:20:42.180 but nowhere in there does it consider the needs and interests of you know regular nova scotians

00:20:47.560 who want to go for a walk in the woods want to hike in the woods and maybe need the woods for

00:20:52.540 their their their medical health their medical treatment you know like like jeff evely so um

00:20:58.220 because they didn't do that because the word charter doesn't appear anywhere and they didn't

00:21:02.060 engage with it in our in our view that would be a waste of time to appeal it really would

00:21:08.540 because the supreme court is very clear on that issue is there any repercussions any repercussions

00:21:15.980 um after this finding i mean we're living in a country where it seems like the charter rights

00:21:21.580 of canadians are the last concern for our elected officials and our governments and you know as

00:21:28.780 we're as we're seeing happen with the with the invocation of the emergencies act and justice

00:21:33.260 mosley's ruling they're obviously just kicking the can kicking the can down the road but there's

00:21:38.780 still been absolutely no accountability nobody's been punished there has not even been a fine

00:21:43.580 there hasn't even been an apology yeah yeah no it's it's elton can i get a i just this is a

00:21:52.860 question that comes up and i if you can see that at the bottom the charter does not protect the

00:21:57.900 individual we should be using the bill of rights can you give your legal perspective on the bill

00:22:03.740 of rights versus the charter please because this is i fight these fights all the time

00:22:08.940 and i would like to get it from an actual lawyer yeah so the the canadian bill of rights is

00:22:15.500 applicable to federal government action and the alberta bill of rights is applicable to

00:22:22.140 alberta government action um so if you're not in if it's not a federal government issue or

00:22:29.500 a policy or law or an alberta one then the bill of rights doesn't apply so the the bill of rights

00:22:34.940 wouldn't apply to this particular case but you know we've researched this before um certainly

00:22:40.780 it's worth pleading alongside the charter and i know there are um i know there are people uh sort

00:22:47.100 of freedom group freedom types um that believe that because of section one in the charter

00:22:55.740 because of the the ability for government to justify uh limiting rights that the bill of

00:23:01.900 Rights is the way to go. I've looked at the cases where the Bill of Rights was invoked and the

00:23:07.900 courts basically have found that they're going to use the same test as the Charter and they just

00:23:15.820 defer to the Charter. So the case law is not very helpful in this area and I haven't seen a case

00:23:22.860 where someone just uses the Bill of Rights outside of the Charter but I know that judges are very

00:23:28.540 deferential to using the charter and following those tests so um it's not something that we

00:23:35.100 could have done in in this case but i you know i still i still believe that that the charter um

00:23:41.660 is it's there to protect the individual i mean um the courts you know certainly during covid were

00:23:48.860 very deferential to government but uh i i you know we haven't lost faith in our charter it is

00:23:55.020 there to protect us and it's just a matter of um you know how how the courts are going to rule on

00:24:02.860 a particular issue and uh what is the you know what is the political uh sentiment of of the time

00:24:09.820 and unfortunately it was pretty standard outside of the emergencies uh act decision that courts

00:24:16.380 across the country during covid were really not receptive to any arguments other than deference

00:24:21.340 to government. So I understand the frustration that people are feeling. And I think the thought

00:24:26.720 is, you know, if we can just put in an argument that doesn't rely on Section 1 as the government's

00:24:32.920 way to get out of limiting the charter rate, maybe there's a win there. I haven't seen a case where

00:24:37.500 that has happened. So it's difficult for me to say what that would look like. But as I said,

00:24:42.320 I do know that when they're both put together, the court does reference the charter and doesn't

00:24:49.440 really do much with the bill of rights so it's an interesting point uh i i would like to see it you

00:24:54.500 know how it plays out in a court but i i haven't lost faith in our charter i've you know i'm hopeful

00:25:00.640 that uh as as time marches on and and our freedoms are increasingly threatened that that courts will

00:25:07.020 will you know step up a little bit more and uh and and want to help protect canadians so i i'm

00:25:14.020 hopeful for that. There is definitely a lot of criticism of the Charter that I've seen anytime

00:25:19.960 I post about it or in this case or the invitation of the EA, but I believe it is there to protect

00:25:25.820 us too. I think we're just living in a time where the interpretation by some of the judges or the

00:25:32.840 legal system itself is where this is falling by the wayside, how our rights are falling by the

00:25:39.540 wayside if that makes any sense i don't believe it's the charter itself and i don't know you know

00:25:45.240 we spent enough time with brian peckford actually jeff came out with us two summers ago now it'll

00:25:50.400 be two summers this year and when we went out and visited the peckfords and he's just so proud of

00:25:56.140 that thing you know i i just it's amazing and why how they are not parading um former premier

00:26:04.460 peckford around the country to talk at schools and universities and town halls and to be when i

00:26:09.980 was a kid that's exactly what we would have we would have these types of people coming in to

00:26:13.580 speak to us so i think it's an actual travesty that we have you know one of the last draftees

00:26:18.780 and segment and the last signatory of the charter of rights and freedoms alive well um and being

00:26:25.340 completely ignored he's absolutely being ignored i mean he was ignored in uh in his case that we

00:26:31.260 that we took uh tried to get to the Supreme Court of Canada the vaccine mandate for the for air

00:26:36.540 travel uh he had an affidavit where he talked about the fact that he was the last living signatory to

00:26:42.380 the charter and uh in that you know his charter rights are being infringed by not being able to

00:26:47.260 fly across the country and the federal government's lawyers didn't want to cross-examine him at all

00:26:53.500 they didn't want to hear from him and of course the media barely touched that story and it was

00:26:58.860 it was a huge critically important case even though it got dismissed for mootness it was a

00:27:03.740 critically important case to bring for mobility rights and they you know the media didn't want

00:27:09.340 to talk to him and it's it's really it's i mean it's shocking and it isn't it is and it isn't

00:27:16.140 it is in the sense of decent common decency and uh just for you know democratic discourse

00:27:24.300 we should be hearing from somebody who was there at the table when the document was drafted

00:27:28.060 and had a hand in doing that and but then again you know during covid everybody was shut down

00:27:34.940 and had a dissenting voice and and whether it was scientists um you know anybody of any sort

00:27:41.660 of significance that the media didn't want to hear from so unfortunately premier peckford was

00:27:47.420 silenced as well and i think it's a travesty yeah it is it's absolutely a travesty one other way to

00:27:54.220 try and make him sound well i guess they tried to make him sound like he was crazy or delusional

00:27:59.100 and that is not the case brian peckford is firing on all cylinders and anybody any time with them

00:28:05.340 you would know that he's very well spoken and uh yeah it's an honor every time jeff and a few other

00:28:11.660 people candace there's a bunch of other people we got to do some pretty cool stuff out and

00:28:16.220 where were we parksville yeah birthday parksville got to take a yacht ride it was uh it was an

00:28:22.380 amazing experience and one that was an old yacht from the 50s restoring yeah just kidding i just

00:28:34.860 kidding that'll be all over to him that's hilarious it's the first time okay well yes that's right

00:28:44.300 yeah that was your first time that far east that's right that was for the reclaiming canada

00:28:48.860 conference we were at yeah yeah we were at uh was it reclaiming canada i thought it was we unify

00:28:56.460 we if i reclaiming canada conference okay yeah yeah that's right yeah yeah so um allison before

00:29:04.220 we let you go i know you've got to you've got to go um be with your family is there any key points

00:29:08.860 or any takeaways that that struck you that you want to talk about before we let you go

00:29:13.100 Yeah, I mean, this was a very interesting case and we put in affidavit evidence and

00:29:20.940 a lot of that affidavit evidence didn't make it into the final decision because

00:29:25.340 there were four main legal arguments that we had to try and get a win on this case and

00:29:30.940 the judge basically stuck with the first argument that was the strong argument. And if we had lost

00:29:37.340 that, he would have done the rest of the tests for the rest of the arguments. But because he

00:29:41.980 He, you know, rightly so, he found that this decision to put in the forest travel ban was unreasonable because they didn't consider charter interests.

00:29:54.440 But the other tests for, you know, liberty, security of the person, we had affidavit evidence that was very interesting and just made me shake my head when I was meeting with the principal fire investigator for 30 years, Mr. Peter MacIsaac.

00:30:11.120 He used to work for the government of Nova Scotia, you know, helping to investigate fires.

00:30:16.240 And he was real. His knowledge on this issue was profound.

00:30:21.120 And some of the things that he would that he told me and made it made it into his affidavit.

00:30:26.880 Here in Alberta, we have 100 fire towers and fire towers.

00:30:30.400 If you're not aware, the tower in the middle of the forest and someone is paid to climb up and sit at the top.

00:30:36.720 And they are an excellent spotter of smoke.

00:30:39.200 they were the first line of defense for fire and it was very effective and in Nova Scotia in 2013

00:30:45.660 the decision was made by the Department of Natural Resources to decommission these fire towers that

00:30:50.960 they had and so the first line of defense against forest fire in a province where forests comprised

00:30:55.760 80 percent of the province were taken down and Mr. MacIsaac advised that he was in meetings

00:31:04.460 as this was happening or about to happen, and he was told that the thought was, well, the next line

00:31:09.980 of defense that we don't need the fire towers anymore because citizens walking through the

00:31:14.560 forest with cell phones are going to be the ones now to spot fires. They can call for help. They

00:31:19.800 can call and report arsonists. So now the citizens are the ones that we rely on. And now, now the

00:31:27.060 citizens are banned from walking in the forest. There's no more fire towers. I mean, you just

00:31:31.360 shake your head is just unbelievable. So there's a lot more depth to this case than than what

00:31:36.800 appeared in the written decision. And the judge, of course, did what he needed to do to come to the

00:31:41.900 right conclusion, we say. But some of that other evidence was relevant to other parts of the legal

00:31:46.980 test. And it was just really very interesting to hear this. In our view, it looked like, you know,

00:31:54.140 forced mismanagement. And instead of putting those towers back, which, you know, perhaps that's the

00:32:00.900 right decision, they punished Nova Scotia citizens instead by banning everybody from

00:32:07.200 the forest. And it's just, it's just complete overkill. And it's just such a pleasure for

00:32:11.400 us to put that case in, have those discussions with the court and get the result that we

00:32:15.660 did.

00:32:16.660 Yeah, amazing. Well, congratulations again. Like I said, we were all very happy to hear

00:32:22.520 this news last week. So thank you. Congratulations for, you know, pushing back.

00:32:29.900 Yeah. We'll take every win we can get.

00:32:33.160 Absolutely. Appreciate everything you do.

00:32:36.240 Thank you. Thanks for having me. Thanks for hopping on real quick.

00:32:40.120 You have a great night. You too. Thank you. Bye-bye.

00:32:44.460 Allison from the JCCF.

00:32:46.920 So don't you think if anybody's ever met Jeff,

00:32:50.300 there's an amazing partner that this guy has.

00:32:52.540 His name is Axel and he's a Husky. He's Husky, right?

00:32:55.240 Purebred? Yeah. Purebred Siberian Husky.

00:32:58.040 this dog is abs i'm pretty sure axel will put the fire out in a forest just by running around in

00:33:03.080 circles on it axel's very high energy and absolutely awesome super high energy he might

00:33:09.400 you know lick it out or or something like that and i bet you he would smell it a lot faster

00:33:16.440 than even hikers uh would would smell it so um yeah yeah allison was making some really i think

00:33:23.480 important points there that came from from Peter McIsaac and I would like to

00:33:29.480 point out too that the whole time that all of these fires were happening the

00:33:34.280 fire services unions were posting to their Instagram and their Facebook about

00:33:41.600 how mismanaged the whole situation was like they were really calling out senior

00:33:46.040 leadership and saying that they weren't properly employing the volunteer fire

00:33:51.020 departments that didn't have resources in place uh that were necessary i mean we had i think four

00:33:57.180 water bombers two pilots then one of those water bombers crashed the pilot was injured and will

00:34:02.380 never fly again um first responders take real risks on behalf of the rest of us no doubt about that

00:34:07.260 so now we have one pilot so they can they can say that we have three four water bombers something

00:34:10.780 like that but if you only have one pilot you basically have half a water bomber because

00:34:15.820 there's crew rafts they can only fly for so many hours before that before they have to take so much

00:34:19.660 downtime um so it's a mismanagement crisis at the end of the day and um i i think what they've been

00:34:26.460 doing is effectively the same thing the federal government was doing during uh covet which is

00:34:30.540 scapegoating like the federal government would scapegoat well provincial governments to scapegoat

00:34:35.100 the unvaccinated um when they really shouldn't have been vaccinating during a pandemic in the

00:34:40.380 first place that's what drove variation um and uh and and this time around like they're they're

00:34:46.700 they're blaming hikers for the wildfires.

00:34:54.860 When in 2013, they were saying that hikers

00:34:57.180 would be the first line of defense.

00:34:58.880 So yeah, and remember when it was,

00:35:03.700 well, first the nurses were the hero of the pandemic

00:35:06.640 and then mandates came in and all of a sudden

00:35:08.380 they were all pariahs and the truckers were the heroes

00:35:12.800 of the pandemic the entire time,

00:35:14.720 um right up until vaccine mandates came in and then they were pariahs you know scapegoating and

00:35:21.360 it's it's just a failure of leadership and and utter mismanagement i think from start to finish

00:35:27.380 is there anything there's any part of this that makes you think that this is like an interlude

00:35:32.040 for the legendary climate lockdowns that people are talking about in conspiracy theory corners

00:35:37.460 um yeah i mean i can i can see that as a possibility for sure uh but the thing is

00:35:45.420 this time around because earlier i referenced the 2023 wildfire season when i first tried to

00:35:50.920 bring them to court and i remember that quite clearly um when sean frazier got up in the house

00:35:56.620 of commons he's a halifax mp and he got up in the house of commons and said shame on those

00:36:01.340 conservatives for not wanting uh to tax uh canadians into poverty i'm not going to he said

00:36:07.260 i will not sit by idly and watch it burn as in my country i'm not going to sit by idly and watch

00:36:11.240 my country burn to advance the carbon tax agenda while you know the nova scotia is still smoldering

00:36:18.900 um he was using that crisis to raise our taxes and this time around um i didn't hear anybody say

00:36:26.500 climate change once i didn't hear anybody say carbon i didn't i didn't hear anybody going

00:36:31.340 hysterical about climate um none of that so i think maybe they kind of jumped the shark

00:36:37.820 a little bit on that one i hope um and uh maybe it did seem to be the case that they were sort of

00:36:46.060 changing their behavior a little bit um because of my presence in the situation where i was making

00:36:52.780 fun of them so effectively um that they actually changed their behavior a little bit so maybe they

00:36:59.020 they didn't want to go there with that i i don't know but it didn't it didn't come up this time so

00:37:04.240 i think that's maybe room for optimism how many people do you think mines in nova scotia when

00:37:10.480 when the when the fire bans were on was it just you or were there more i think there were more

00:37:15.820 but i think those people were actually burning i'm not aware of anybody else who got fined for

00:37:21.020 simply taking a walk in the woods i'd hear the guy that stood i can see i love your witty sense

00:37:27.300 humor when you're doing your videos there it reminds me of some of the stuff i do i love that

00:37:33.860 sarcasm is the best defense yeah and tyrants can't take mockery um so that's what i think and

00:37:41.940 the whole problem with tyrants is that they have no shame as we saw from tyrant timmy houston's

00:37:48.820 announcement today that he'll do it again even after he's been found to have violated our

00:37:53.380 charter rights he's like i'll do it again um because he has no shame and so it's up to us

00:37:58.820 to give these tyrants some sense of shame um and i think the best way to do that is with ridicule

00:38:04.260 and mockery absolutely tell us about your story sorry sorry i just want to say it's really sad to

00:38:11.300 hear that because you know we're our elected officials are supposed to be there to ensure

00:38:16.020 that our charter rights are protected that's really their number one job before anything else

00:38:20.660 is to make sure that we are protected and all these municipal governments provincial governments

00:38:26.020 are clearly the federal government just you know it's like where they're last it's an annoyance

00:38:30.960 for them the charter of rights and freedoms the canadian charter of rights and freedoms is

00:38:35.580 inconvenient for them and it's it's really it's just so disappointing to see that it doesn't seem

00:38:41.100 to be reversing uh that particular course the judge did comment on that too he um he he said

00:38:49.760 that um you know the the charter rights were basically disregarded out of administrative

00:38:54.080 convenience and that these measures were brought in out of administrative convenience instead of

00:38:58.480 actually just managing the situation um they didn't want to deal with it so they just banned

00:39:04.080 everybody from the woods it was um intellectually lazy and administrative administratively convenient

00:39:10.320 and um during one of the press conferences i i said when we first came on i was kind of joking

00:39:16.560 that um our charter rights are loopholes um because that was the word that tyrant tim houston

00:39:23.920 used right after i went into the woods and took the fine and the video was viral and all that

00:39:29.280 stuff he was uh kind of in the hot seat i guess a little bit at the press conferences and he would

00:39:34.480 and he said that was what he said he said don't look for loopholes i know you want to go for a

00:39:39.360 walk with your dog in the woods but don't look for loopholes and i i was like he's talking about me

00:39:46.560 But I'm talking about charter rights, and he's calling them loopholes.

00:39:54.080 So, yeah, it's a real sad state of affairs, I think,

00:39:57.320 when it comes to our political leadership in Canada right now.

00:40:00.660 So how many times have you been in court?

00:40:02.580 You retired from the service, and then you wind up being arrested

00:40:07.260 during the COVID lockdowns, and then you wind up in convoy.

00:40:11.040 You were actually arrested in Ottawa, right,

00:40:13.260 and then run through the court system there.

00:40:15.140 Tell us a little bit about that.

00:40:16.560 uh so i was arrested and they took me to the detention center in uh downtown ottawa and they

00:40:26.200 told me to sign the um undertaking and i could be on my way as long as i didn't go back to the red

00:40:31.500 zone and then i refused to sign it at first so i went to innis road uh i was in the same paddy

00:40:36.920 wagon as um pat was actually um and uh we uh we went up to innis road and i stayed there for like

00:40:44.640 weekend or something and then when i was finally convinced okay i guess they really did dismantle

00:40:49.760 the protest and crush it um because that's that's what i was saying i was like no i'm going back

00:40:54.880 like um let me out and i'm going back and uh then when i was finally convinced that there was

00:40:59.760 nothing to go back to i said okay i might as well sign the undertaking and get out of here so i can

00:41:04.320 continue with my activism and then i went to rolling thunder and i got arrested there because

00:41:10.160 I was in the red zone. They said, don't go back to the red zone. And I was like, but the war

00:41:16.260 monument is there. And we're doing a big wreath laying ceremony. And I'm the sergeant major on

00:41:22.200 parade and I have a speech to give. So I'm going to the monument. And that's what I did. And they

00:41:28.920 came out and arrested me again. It was eight cops and three cruisers to come and get little old me

00:41:35.220 for giving a speech and uh they took some bail that time uh they weren't letting me out without

00:41:42.420 bail i don't think i ever got that back actually not that i think about it no i haven't got that

00:41:47.140 back um so uh yeah um well um on it if i'm being um perfectly clear i uh i mean veterans for freedom

00:41:58.160 put up half of it and i put up half of it so um but now that i think about it i'm like did we ever

00:42:03.440 get that back um so uh that was that was rolling thunder um and that was yeah that was my last

00:42:12.780 arrest i think except for that one time when i punched that trantifa scumbag um but

00:42:17.960 but i just signed an undertaking for that it didn't really go anywhere you know i just stayed

00:42:26.560 away from him for like a year and i was like that's great that's perfect that's what i wanted

00:42:30.140 But anyway, keep him away from me.

00:42:31.860 He's been following me for three years.

00:42:35.300 Yeah.

00:42:35.900 Just think about how country's turned.

00:42:38.260 You fought for this country.

00:42:40.420 You gave your life for the freedoms of others.

00:42:43.420 And you can't even go to the war monument, the national war monument in Ottawa to lay a wreath.

00:42:50.500 Yeah, actually, that was particularly injurious in the moral sense, I would say,

00:42:58.420 while James Hopp was on his way to Ottawa because I marched with him.

00:43:04.420 I think I did something like 120K with him while he was on his way there, thereabouts.

00:43:08.740 And I had to cut it short, 50 kilometers away from the warm onion

00:43:13.360 because that was as close as I was allowed to get.

00:43:16.440 When I got released after Rolling Thunder, not only did I give them bail,

00:43:20.060 but they expanded the territory to which I could not return from the red zone

00:43:24.640 to the greater Ottawa area.

00:43:26.900 so uh the civic boundary for greater ottawa is at iron prior and that's where that's where i had i

00:43:36.260 was like i did a video i stopped at the sign that says welcome to iron prior and i was like this is

00:43:42.280 a civic boundary for greater ottawa i'm 50 kilometers away from canada's national war

00:43:46.260 monuments and i have to be the only veteran in uh the only war veteran in canadian history to be

00:43:52.320 banned from Canada's national war money for two and a half years until I got my uh my charges

00:43:57.400 sorted out where's the charter rates in that like they violate your charter yeah there's something

00:44:02.800 seriously wrong with that when a Canadian veteran can't is forbidden well you know I would I would

00:44:09.580 wager to say Jeff what like it's it's almost well not it's almost um like us being prohibited from

00:44:15.660 going to Parliament Hill I mean that is our Parliament that is our house also and we are

00:44:20.980 not allowed to go there so to tell you especially um that you can't be at the war memorial is is

00:44:27.060 absolutely despicable in my opinion yeah thank you i i thought so as well and honestly like um even

00:44:35.700 even when i was uh in front of the justice of the peace the first time i got arrested at the convoy

00:44:40.420 i just found that they like they seem to be getting off on it you know like they really

00:44:47.240 it was it was politically driven you can't tell me it wasn't politically driven and from day one

00:44:51.980 i was like i'm never going to get a fair trial in ottawa um you know this is hard left progressive

00:44:58.200 ottawa um they they hate us so uh and i thought it really kind of shone through in the way that

00:45:05.200 they handled these cases um you know i don't think it would have been quite as odious if it were

00:45:11.940 basically anywhere else in the country but unfortunately it's it's like a mischief charge

00:45:17.440 so you're tried in the jurisdiction where it occurs and i don't know good good luck getting

00:45:23.900 a change of venue right i don't think anybody actually did that i just think i just think that

00:45:28.280 these people have destroyed our nation's capital our nation's capital is literally an embarrassment

00:45:33.160 now over you know their actions and right to the top federal all the way down justin trudeau

00:45:38.820 his actions could have been a lot different during convoy he was an ass yeah follow that down through

00:45:46.160 the mayor the city councillors some of this i've met a lot of amazing people in ottawa i want to

00:45:51.200 make sure everybody knows that i've met a lot of amazing people but there is that entitlement there

00:45:56.040 that will you know it is absolutely i we've been playing with somebody on twitter the last couple

00:46:01.840 days tamara that's been trolling both of our accounts and obviously lives in downtown ottawa

00:46:06.300 on some of the vile and heinous things that that person is saying to us is disgusting but i laugh

00:46:13.100 at it and that triggers me i think one of the i think one of the worst or the most telling um

00:46:21.420 incidents that happened at the freedom convoy that showed the blatant disrespect and disregard

00:46:26.300 for all of our veterans was when the government and the police came in and tried to fence off

00:46:30.300 the memorial because we were having not we but you guys were having services there every day at uh

00:46:36.620 noon or one o'clock i think and then they decided that was enough we can't have all these canadians

00:46:41.260 freedom loving canadians coming and respecting our fallen so they decided to put a fence up around it

00:46:47.020 and then you guys just came in like the heroes that you are and took it all down and just and

00:46:52.620 stacked all the fencing so nicely off to the side i mean that um was one of the most disappointing

00:46:59.180 moments on behalf of the government that i've ever seen but one of my proudest moments when i saw you

00:47:03.740 guys dismantle that fence and take it back i was there that i caught that on camera i was uh that

00:47:10.780 was proud to watch and and then they said the veterans set up a tent in the corner of the war

00:47:15.500 monument and they stood on guard protecting that that place for the entire convoy until the police

00:47:21.020 literally beat the living shit out of you on on that solemn ground so yeah um and uh shout out to

00:47:30.460 retired captain brian murr because he actually kind of led the effort to uh to take down pence

00:47:37.740 it was a team effort but uh he he was the one with the bolt cutters and also he was the one who

00:47:43.900 struck up the deal with uh ops because um the police you know they they didn't like us taking

00:47:49.900 the fence down and they're like how are we supposed to keep all these patriots from peeing

00:47:53.340 on this war monument if you guys take that fence down and brian was like we'll put we'll put a man

00:47:58.700 on this monument 24 7 okay we'll we'll keep an eye on it and so then we we set up a shift rotation

00:48:04.620 and and that was what we did like you said that's why we had the tent is so there would be somebody

00:48:08.860 there uh 24 7 and there was a place to get warm so um and and and yeah that that stayed uh i was

00:48:15.980 was actually on my way in for my 4 a.m. shift because I ran the shift schedule and I got stuck

00:48:21.580 with the 4 a.m. shift all the time the I was on my way for my 4 a.m. shift on the 19th of February

00:48:28.740 when I got arrested at the at the convoy so yeah that's a little piece of history right there where

00:48:36.480 you're a monument grounds no it was more like in front of Chateau Laurier I was walking through

00:48:44.620 memorial and uh for for my shift and uh and that's where i got taken down they told me i couldn't go

00:48:50.780 and i was like yes i can and i kept going so um they said stop and i was like no i'm not stopping

00:48:57.580 and uh and that was when i got arrested and and really like the reason i did that is because when

00:49:04.620 i went to basic training um i was told that i had a duty to defy unlawful orders and then the immediate

00:49:11.740 question is well how am i going to know if an order is unlawful and the answer is you use your

00:49:16.700 own best judgment what if i'm wrong well you're going to go in front of a judge and he's going to

00:49:21.420 decide um whether you're right or wrong and if you are wrong then you're going to get charged

00:49:25.740 with the service offense um and you know we impose this kind of an obligation on our young people

00:49:33.020 because that is the only thing that separates us from nazis and uh and so my entire intention there

00:49:40.940 was to get arrested so that i could go into court and stand on my rights i said i said the

00:49:46.140 the uh emergency measures acts evocation was obviously um that was obviously overbroad that

00:49:51.740 was that was an overreach it was illegal i was like there's no emergency here i can see that

00:49:56.540 but i was taking the arrest so that i could challenge this when it got to court and uh

00:50:04.220 and then when it did they said they were like yeah the emergency measures act evocation was

00:50:08.380 ultra vires it was illegal but we didn't we didn't completely dismantle this protest on that basis

00:50:18.080 we have um you know ancillary powers doctrine under um common law police have powers to clear

00:50:26.180 protests and stuff like that and they were like no we were acting on these powers they'll say no

00:50:29.600 you weren't they just they did a total bait and switch so um i was operating on the information

00:50:37.560 that i had on the time at the time which was that the federal government declared an emergency and

00:50:43.800 that was why the protest was being cleared and then when it by the time i got to court we already

00:50:49.960 had the mosley decision and they were like no that wasn't the reason that we were doing that

00:50:54.760 that was internal police decisions you've got to be kidding me i i think i think if the courts in

00:50:59.640 ottawa were acting in good faith they would have dropped every charge as soon as the emergency

00:51:02.840 measures act was declared ultra virus well that's the problem with a lot of the bureaucracy in

00:51:08.760 ottawa so they don't act in good faith um i mean not the the rank and file police officers but

00:51:15.240 definitely the higher-ups within the ottawa city police service we've seen will not act in good

00:51:19.240 faith the bureaucrats at city hall do not act in good faith as a matter of fact they will shake

00:51:24.040 your hand in one meeting and agree to do or agree to work with you and walk across the hall and walk

00:51:28.760 into another meeting and stab you in the bat and then of course well i think we that is that's more

00:51:33.400 than well known as far as our federal government goes um yeah it's brutal absolutely brutal no

00:51:39.320 accountability they've they've held us accountable they've held us all accountable to the fullest

00:51:43.480 extent of what they can but to this day you know five years later there's still no accountability

00:51:48.040 from any elected officials for putting people in that position which is yeah i won't quit until

00:51:53.960 that happens uh we got a two dollar super chat from peter thank you peter thank you for being

00:51:59.880 who you are great stream thanks a lot peter were we gonna mention the fact that christina freeland

00:52:05.000 just got the like a freedom award mr freeman oh hero of democracy or a hero for democracy

00:52:13.240 this what yeah yeah she literally did i'll see if i can find it hang on

00:52:18.920 and and she was uh sort of i think kind of the chief art detective the freezing of the

00:52:26.360 bank accounts too absolutely her she was in a phone call meeting with all the ceos the bank

00:52:32.120 ceos yeah and there was a lot of oh freeland there was a lot of talk around the note that she had

00:52:40.600 uh a lot of people were kind of calling out the ceos and saying that one of the ceos was the one

00:52:45.240 that said you would have to declare an emergency but i think what happened there was she was saying

00:52:52.120 to the ceo she was like you guys go freeze these bank accounts right now and they were like um we

00:52:58.360 we don't take orders from you you would have to declare a national emergency in order for that to

00:53:04.520 be um action like we would never take action under any circumstances other than a national emergency

00:53:09.480 like that and she was like okay well if we just we'll just declare a national emergency then

00:53:13.400 um yeah that that seemed to be how it went down

00:53:16.680 we're just gonna label them as terrorists i'm sending you a list of the mischief makers

00:53:21.960 pardon me from our good friend at wiretap media on april 20th he tweeted christopher

00:53:27.960 freeland just won the hero of democracy award for illegally invoking the emergencies act

00:53:33.400 freezing the bank accounts of peaceful protesters and having their heads smashed into the pavement

00:53:37.880 during the freedom convoy oh and let's not forget the time she tried to funnel billions to a company

00:53:43.240 that didn't even exist and here is a lovely picture of her um krista freeland grateful to

00:53:49.160 be in new york friday night and honored to receive the heroes of democracy award from renew renew

00:53:54.840 democracy wow when they live behind yeah i mean yeah i mean well make it make sense well she's

00:54:03.960 It's left wing, and when they say democracy, they mean bureaucracy.

00:54:09.160 Yes.

00:54:10.160 Yes.

00:54:11.160 100%.

00:54:12.160 Yeah.

00:54:13.160 If you just replace democracy with bureaucracy, it all makes sense.

00:54:16.160 Yeah, that's right.

00:54:18.360 Yeah, I mean, it's just ironic, it's unusual that she would be even given such an award

00:54:23.420 considering that her government is still, you know, the invocation of the Emergencies

00:54:28.040 Act is still sort of up in the air.

00:54:29.820 They're going to try and take it to the Supreme Court now.

00:54:31.780 So to be getting awards when you might be the greatest tyrant of all time is a bit much for me.

00:54:39.560 But this is what we see happening with these people, Jeff.

00:54:42.260 You know, we see these guys just failing upwards.

00:54:44.780 Bill Blair has gone off to a cushy ambassador job.

00:54:48.120 Christopher Freeland's obviously gone off to the Ukraine.

00:54:52.040 You know, they just they continue to fail upwards.

00:54:55.460 And he's just going to keep sending them out and giving them these appointments until he actually has a new government.

00:55:00.520 I think he keeps talking about our new government, but there's no new government.

00:55:05.300 New boss, same as the old boss.

00:55:07.580 Exactly.

00:55:08.320 And it was always Carney.

00:55:09.760 Carney was the guy who wrote the article in the Globe and Mail calling us all seditionists

00:55:16.000 and saying that it was time to restore the rule of law in Canada.

00:55:20.560 And Mr. Conflict of Interest himself would have been one of those investment class types,

00:55:29.060 corporate types that soaked up all the wealth from the small business sector during the pandemic so

00:55:35.260 he would have been profiting personally because that's what happened during the pandemic it was

00:55:39.180 the greatest transfer of wealth from the small business sector to the corporate sector from the

00:55:43.320 young to the old in all of human history from from the lower class to the upper class he's an

00:55:49.480 upper class guy he's making tons of cash off of the pandemic because of his investments and advising

00:55:55.840 trudeau at the at the same time to uh to keep everything locked down and uh align everything

00:56:03.280 in canada all of uh government of canada spending with uh brookfield's bottom line basically as he

00:56:10.240 was moving brookfield down to the united states to uh to be headquartered there and offshore

00:56:17.280 their accounts so he doesn't have to pay taxes in canada but anyway he was the guy who called

00:56:22.320 us all seditionists he was right next to trudeau the entire time he was his advisor i think the

00:56:27.600 trudeau was just the wizard of oz and uh mark kearney was the man behind the curtain the entire

00:56:33.360 time it's just that now he's taking um and uh for a long time i mean he they've been talking

00:56:42.880 they've been floating mark carney's name around for probably a minimum of four to five years

00:56:47.280 i see this comment just popped up here but i gotta go on to this guy my farts have color like

00:56:56.800 valid point valid point what caught me was your username mr and i yeah i kind of like that

00:57:04.000 having color in your farts is probably not a good thing but

00:57:08.640 i want to get that checked yeah yeah that's right yeah that's right

00:57:12.160 So Jeff, your mischief child, you were found guilty, obviously. Did you let that go? Did you

00:57:19.540 appeal it? What happened? We did. And the Court of Appeals refused to hear it. And I said, what

00:57:26.720 about the Supreme Court? But I was talking to Chris Floria from the Justice Center. And he said,

00:57:32.300 you know, there has never been a case in history where the appeals court declined to hear your

00:57:36.940 appeal and then the uh the supreme court accepted it so i said okay i mean i don't want to waste

00:57:43.200 judicial resources so i guess this is the end of the line uh it was disappointing and um you know

00:57:49.740 i i did i was allowed back in ottawa a little bit for my trial um while i was being tried there and

00:57:57.180 uh i i don't know it's just i walked away from it saying i feel like i just got tried by the cbc

00:58:03.440 because um i the the way that the judge came to her decision um saying things like you know

00:58:13.640 obviously uh the rule of law had broken down and it was pandemonium in the streets and

00:58:18.880 she's talking she's basically regurgitating headlines and i i uh like i just remember like

00:58:26.520 we go to so much trouble to make sure that if we're going to say something in court that

00:58:32.660 we have to make sure the evidence is on the record. We have to stand on the evidence. And

00:58:38.120 then the judge just ruled on headlines. And I was like, none of that was ever in the record.

00:58:45.360 Nobody entered that evidence into the record, the kinds of things that she said in her decision. So

00:58:49.320 I was, I thought to myself, I said to Chris Flurry, I was like, you know, maybe we could

00:58:56.760 stand on that in an appeal. And he was like, yeah, maybe. And we tried. And anyway, it just

00:59:01.620 didn't go anywhere um i think it's going to be a number of years before we really see the kind

00:59:06.320 of judicial reform that we we need um yeah so when people stand up and have enough i'm curious if

00:59:13.440 you know tamara and i's cases are about to go in front of the the appeals court that same appeals

00:59:18.300 court now will they do the same decision that they did for you or will this be politically

00:59:22.520 motivated and we'll be back at her again it's a great question um yours is definitely higher

00:59:28.940 profile than mine um so perhaps it would be given more careful consideration um you know mine was

00:59:37.820 just sort of a routine and some of the stuff about this one more thing about my case sorry to make

00:59:43.700 this about me but no but this is all about this you're the guest buddy that is about you it is

00:59:49.900 it was all of us um because was it rumlewski i think there was a guy named rumlewski he uh

00:59:58.440 unfortunately died before his case got to the supreme court and i think his uh his wife was

01:00:03.480 still pursuing it after he died but i think it was declined ultimately yeah yeah and so i remember

01:00:13.280 saying to chris flurry i was like they're they're citing precedent to charge me and the precedent

01:00:20.840 they're citing is other convoy cases and he was like well they would say that those are the ones

01:00:26.820 most closely relate to your circumstances i was like yeah but they're all precedent setting

01:00:30.900 this was an unprecedented historic event and everybody is disputing that it was necessary to

01:00:38.740 take this uh protest apart that like the ema has already fallen apart um and so i find it to be

01:00:46.580 highly inappropriate that they're using other convoy cases as case law as precedent in my uh

01:00:54.180 in my uh conviction and he was like yeah i never thought about it like or but it's just i guess

01:00:59.300 the way the law works and so the process the prosecutor who got romlewski was also coming

01:01:05.860 after me using his own case to to prosecute me while romlewski was um applying for leave from

01:01:15.220 the supreme court so i'm like this is a live controversy it's not exactly set of case law

01:01:20.340 You could go back to 1968 if you want to talk about common law, ancillary powers, doctrine, or something like that.

01:01:29.100 That's where the case law really comes from there.

01:01:30.920 So we have like five or six decades of case law that you could be relying on, but you're using your own politically motivated persecution of Remlewski.

01:01:45.020 I can't remember his name.

01:01:50.340 I looked it up anyway and I was like that was the same crown and the same just uh I don't know

01:02:04.540 it all it was also inappropriate I thought it was I listened to that I look back at the last

01:02:10.380 number of years just through our trial and watching them use uh case law from coots against

01:02:14.900 us in ottawa and i mean coots was its own protest but they used a lot whatever they possibly could

01:02:20.740 against us i mean i know if they were using case law when it come to the decision on the on the

01:02:26.980 sentence you know some people got three months in uh in you know what is it custodial um from coots

01:02:35.460 but and that's you know jay vanna where got what did jay get a month in house arrest i thought he

01:02:41.780 He had three months, three months, and three months.

01:02:44.380 Three house arrests, three months of curfew, three months of probation, I think is what he had.

01:02:50.120 So how does that equal case law when it comes to the sentence?

01:02:53.580 But it is what it is, and you just...

01:02:57.860 Well, even 18 months is beyond the norm for even a mischief.

01:03:02.100 Like, totally beyond the norm for a mischief.

01:03:03.900 It's just, it's completely way out to lunch.

01:03:06.900 It's usually, like, a slap on the wrist, a fine, you know.

01:03:10.640 What was your sentence, Jake, after being

01:03:12.740 found guilty of the mighty mischief?

01:03:15.160 I got 12 months

01:03:16.600 probation, 50 hours

01:03:18.660 community service,

01:03:20.580 and no protesting in

01:03:22.700 Ottawa while I was on probation.

01:03:24.960 I'm off probation now,

01:03:26.580 so I'm organizing a protest

01:03:28.500 on the 5th of May.

01:03:29.240 What a fantastic segue

01:03:31.020 to the next episode.

01:03:31.880 Tell us about that.

01:03:34.320 I actually wanted to bring it up,

01:03:36.380 but I just wanted to find a

01:03:38.320 poster. All I could find on your thing was a video.

01:03:41.360 Yes, tell us about Mayday Canada.

01:03:43.560 Yes, I can bring it up.

01:03:44.500 Go ahead.

01:03:45.000 What is it?

01:03:46.360 MaydayCanada.com.

01:03:47.740 You can go there and you'll find everything you need to know about it.

01:03:50.680 And it's called Mayday Kids in Crisis.

01:03:54.000 And we're going to Ottawa to bring an end to childhood transition.

01:03:58.200 So we're doing a parliamentary press gallery at 10.30 in the morning.

01:04:02.660 1 p.m. is a rally on Parliament Hill.

01:04:05.080 6 p.m. is a town hall with a panel of speakers comprised of experts

01:04:10.780 and those with lived experience of the harms of gender ideology.

01:04:15.200 And we have trans man Scott Nugent of What is Woman Fame

01:04:21.660 coming up from the United States to be our keynote speaker.

01:04:25.300 And Mia Hughes of Genspect, author of the WPATH Files, she's also speaking.

01:04:30.900 We have Barry Neufeld who just got that $750,000 fine.

01:04:35.080 for opposing SOGI in schools.

01:04:38.340 We have Kelly Lynn Peary,

01:04:41.800 who's the founder of the D-Trans Alliance.

01:04:44.160 And we have Faith Grohloo,

01:04:46.660 who's a young D-Transitioner, 26 years old,

01:04:49.580 started taking puberty blockers when she was 16

01:04:52.540 and assisted when she was about 22, 23, I think.

01:04:57.080 Myself, my daughter is a victim of gender ideology,

01:05:00.260 so I'm a dad.

01:05:02.440 And Chris Fleury, he's representing the Canadian women

01:05:06.880 for sex-based rights case to get males out of female prisons.

01:05:11.420 So this is the issue of our era, you know,

01:05:15.600 any civilization that doesn't protect his children

01:05:17.540 will be a civilization for much longer.

01:05:19.060 So this is the thing that's going to happen in Canada.

01:05:22.980 If anybody knows Jeff's story,

01:05:24.380 this is something near and dear to your heart

01:05:26.360 is it involves you personally and your family.

01:05:29.240 so i'm trying to just find you guys sorry i'm feeling terribly mayday canada yeah uh that looks

01:05:36.920 like the right one if you uh so that that one in the center that says mayday that's our rally flyer

01:05:47.000 right there the top row center tasha has the link in the comment section if anybody is looking

01:05:53.320 i can't yeah i can't open it up because i gotta log in unfortunately shoot sorry

01:06:00.360 see if i can bring it up another way right there tamara so everybody can see it come on

01:06:05.000 hit that log i know i'm such a i'm such a noob i'm such a noob at this anyways i think that's

01:06:12.760 Tasha's got her website in the comments there.

01:06:17.660 Yeah, thank you.

01:06:19.840 So we're bringing all kinds of people out for this,

01:06:25.200 and we're making young detransitioners front and center

01:06:29.820 because this is what it's about.

01:06:31.120 These are the harms that have been inflicted on people,

01:06:34.960 and so I think that these are the people whose voices

01:06:41.520 are really going to make the difference.

01:06:42.580 We need to empower some of these young people to speak out about their experience.

01:06:49.200 And you know what?

01:06:49.820 A lot of them are really starting to reach out to us now.

01:06:53.200 Word has been around.

01:06:55.380 Yeah, we've been.

01:06:57.100 I see Christine McPherson in the comments here just saying to get Jeff to detail the press conference, the rally and the town hall.

01:07:03.900 I think you went through a bit of it there.

01:07:06.400 Yeah, I did.

01:07:07.160 I think that's that about covers it.

01:07:09.520 It's a 10.30 press conference, 1 p.m. rally on the hill and 6 p.m. town hall.

01:07:17.680 Doors open at 5.

01:07:19.160 And tickets available on our website, MaydayCanada.com.

01:07:23.460 We're releasing the location to ticket holders only for security purposes.

01:07:28.440 So go to MaydayCanada.com and you can donate to help me recoup some of the money I put out for plane tickets.

01:07:38.420 and maybe buy some merch.

01:07:41.880 That always helps too.

01:07:43.000 But buy a ticket to the town hall if you can make it

01:07:45.600 because it's a great lineup of speakers.

01:07:47.540 I'm really excited about that.

01:07:49.660 Will you have anything online, Jeff?

01:07:51.420 Do you know if you're selling virtual tickets?

01:07:53.760 Well, because we're selling tickets,

01:07:56.060 yeah, because we're selling tickets,

01:07:57.620 I decided that we probably shouldn't live stream it.

01:08:00.180 It wouldn't be fair to the people who paid for their tickets.

01:08:03.420 But what we are doing is we're putting together a documentary.

01:08:07.820 So we have a camera crew who will follow us through the whole day

01:08:11.560 because we're doing three different events.

01:08:13.540 So it'll probably make for a pretty good documentary.

01:08:16.400 And we already have a team, a camera crew that's interested

01:08:19.700 and a rare foundation.

01:08:21.320 If you guys are familiar with Vlad Tepe, he's excellent.

01:08:25.600 So he's got a crew put together to follow it around

01:08:28.440 and we'll release that at a later date.

01:08:30.700 Good.

01:08:31.360 Oh, that's amazing.

01:08:32.440 And how's your feedback coming?

01:08:35.720 Are you expecting a fantastic turnout?

01:08:41.360 It seems like there's quite a bit of interest.

01:08:44.660 Ticket sales, I'm told Ottawa is always last minute at this stuff.

01:08:49.020 So we're not exactly sold out just yet, but word is getting around.

01:08:56.360 And I think really, even when it comes to the rally and stuff like that,

01:09:02.680 it's not like our politicians care if we protest.

01:09:05.720 No, I don't think so. I think there is we have we have some Christine has been helping with the plan for the rally and the march around town with some key locations where we can maybe catch interested people coming into town for the strong and free conference when it comes to Ottawa, because that'll be starting the day after our rallies.

01:09:24.000 so we thought maybe we could um generate some interest those those people coming into town on

01:09:28.560 that day would be uh probably interested in the subject as well um and uh but i think really a

01:09:36.080 what this is all about is the parliamentary press conference um we got to get into the mainstream

01:09:42.000 we got to start waking people up um whether mainstream you know cbc ctv globalists are

01:09:50.400 going to show up is always anybody's guess i'm told that the folks of the parliamentary press

01:09:56.640 gallery think there will be interest from mainstream in this particular topic and uh

01:10:02.080 we'll have cpac there for sure and uh i'm sure we can count on you know national post western

01:10:08.480 standards uh sun news network um those types of people to uh to come as well the the issue though

01:10:15.600 is that um the parliamentary press gallery kind of gets to decide who is legitimate media and

01:10:20.400 who isn't um and it's all based on apparently the tax status so if the cra doesn't give you

01:10:28.720 the uh the tax incentives as a news organization then you don't get into the parliamentary press

01:10:34.480 gallery so it's uh it's an excuse um it's an excuse well we will get uh i think if you don't

01:10:42.320 right kind of exposure parent the government narrative then they won't uh they won't let

01:10:46.320 you in basically the mean girl media i call it now it's basically what it is oh isn't it terrible

01:10:52.960 uh they're not they're not even grown-ups it's just you know you're not allowed to go buy alcohol

01:10:58.880 in province i live until you're an adult 19 years old you're not allowed to buy cigarettes i don't

01:11:03.760 know what the year for cigarettes is you're not allowed to buy weed but yeah you can go

01:11:07.760 do transition therapy and hormone blockers at you know protect our children i love what you're doing

01:11:14.960 here jeff i'm not against any lbgq plus you could be as proud as you want to be but this is different

01:11:21.760 in my understanding and i want people to wake up to this yeah and we are not uh this is not this

01:11:28.320 has nothing to do with anybody's identity or sexuality or anything like that has nothing to do

01:11:33.280 with what consenting informed capable adults are doing with their own bodies even when it comes to

01:11:38.880 these kinds of surgeries um but we're talking about kids and like the dutch protocol is to give

01:11:45.520 them puberty blockers at 12 and start them on cross-sex hormones um during adolescence they're

01:11:51.280 they've given double mastectomies to about a thousand under 18 uh girls some of them as young

01:11:59.120 as 14 in canada they're giving um the uh the orchid yorkiectomies and radical hysterectomies

01:12:06.880 like chemical castration sterile sterilizing surgeries to 18 year olds um and of course

01:12:13.520 like if you ask an adolescent um are you sure you don't want to have kids they're going to say no

01:12:18.880 no of course i don't want to have kids like we all said that at that age but you know we we grow

01:12:25.600 as people over time and um you know our uh our goals in life or what we value in life tends to

01:12:33.440 um evolve with us so um it's it's just a crime against humanity um there's big money in this too

01:12:43.280 like it is an industry these people never get to come off the drugs whether they have to stay on

01:12:50.160 the cross sex hormones just to have some kind of balance or whether um you know due to repeat

01:12:58.320 infections uh they have to keep getting treated uh because of that they they never really get to

01:13:04.400 come off the drugs so it's uh patients yeah they're permanent medical patients permanent medical

01:13:11.280 patients and sterile you know and sterile uh shortened life expectancy um you know there was

01:13:20.000 a study that came out of sweden in 2011 it was a long-term follow-up study of transsexual

01:13:25.840 persons undergoing sex reassignment surgery cohort study in sweden and they followed people out to

01:13:31.440 even 30 years after they uh they had transitioned and um it's it's really bleak it's really dark

01:13:42.080 stuff once they get out to about 10 years post-transition right around seven or eight

01:13:46.400 years the suicide rate starts to spike like go through the roof and at about the 10-year mark

01:13:52.320 you see the mortality really just drops off a cliff like these people start dying

01:13:57.440 at way higher rates um than the general population and and so they're essentially

01:14:03.360 slowly murdering them it's coming from jeff where like where is this being fed to our children do

01:14:08.720 you have any insight into that in terms of the gender ideology yeah like where are these ideas

01:14:15.120 up it is school um and there is a marxist agenda i think that pervades our institutions right now

01:14:23.920 You know, Aldous Tuxley in Brave New World, the kids had to engage in erotic play.

01:14:32.620 They were forced to engage in erotic play in school.

01:14:34.660 So it does seem to be something like a natural constituent of tyranny.

01:14:38.680 But in terms of the ideology itself, things like, like I look at Bill C4,

01:14:45.660 which is the one that says you must transition your kid as soon as they identify as trans.

01:14:49.980 or at least if you refuse to transition your kid,

01:14:53.760 that's considered conversion therapy

01:14:55.060 and you face five years in jail.

01:14:57.280 We'll be bringing that up in Ottawa.

01:14:59.740 And the language that they use is cisgender.

01:15:04.960 So if you cause someone to go from being trans to cisgender,

01:15:11.040 cisgender meaning like, you know,

01:15:12.860 I'm a man and I'm comfortable with the fact that I'm a man,

01:15:15.820 then that is considered conversion therapy

01:15:19.040 and punishable with up to five years in jail.

01:15:22.580 Just convincing someone to feel comfortable

01:15:24.760 in their natural body.

01:15:25.960 If you convince a gendered is for a team

01:15:27.940 to feel comfortable in their natural body,

01:15:30.660 that's a five-year jail sentence.

01:15:33.840 But cisgender, the word cis is something,

01:15:37.320 cis-sexual, that a guy named Volkmar Segush came up with.

01:15:41.600 He was from the Frankfurt School,

01:15:43.160 and he did his philosophical studies

01:15:44.680 under Theodora Darno and Max Horkheimer.

01:15:48.340 They were very famous critical theorists, as in post-Marxist.

01:15:54.440 Another famous critical theorist was Judith Butler, who is an American professor who first said that gender was performative and gender is a social construct, as they say.

01:16:06.420 So this is part of a larger totalitarian worldview that is fundamentally Marxist, has captured our institutions, starting with the university, permeating its way outward, and it's gotten all the way down to little kids now.

01:16:26.640 It's not just that there's bleed over from the university into the high school, but it's all the way down to little kids.

01:16:36.420 which is terrible a five-year-old child a five-year-old child does not even want to know

01:16:42.720 about sex doesn't have any inkling about sex there is absolutely zero reason why we should

01:16:47.940 be talking to children that age um about sex period let alone trying to have them decide

01:16:56.360 what gender they want to be you know it's it's um it's pretty alarming a little telling in

01:17:03.460 alberta when danielle smith introduced the bill to protect that or to get teachers to quit with

01:17:07.560 the indoctrination and the backlash she received over that you know are you flying over the target

01:17:12.520 dania i believe she was very much so just because of the backlash she received by certain teachers

01:17:17.540 not all teachers i want to make sure i go there because there's a lot of amazing teachers out

01:17:21.400 there but you know who you are yeah and i think that she kind of split the difference a little

01:17:27.660 too much there too um she said okay we're not going to give chemical castration drugs till kids

01:17:33.300 until they're 16. I don't think we should be giving chemical castration drugs to kids

01:17:38.540 at all. Yeah, this stuff should be banned. It's abuse. It's not medicine. It's all harm and no

01:17:48.880 help. And in fact, we had a pretty helpful study come out. It was well-timed for our event here

01:17:55.060 because it just came out on the 4th of April. And the claim that these so-called clinicians

01:18:00.120 have been gaslighting parents myself myself included have been gaslighting parents with

01:18:04.920 is you know would you rather have a living son or a dead daughter um is it has just been completely

01:18:11.640 and utterly falsified by this study that came out of finland where they looked at psychiatric

01:18:20.360 morbidity and they found that i don't like for example boys who first started attending gender

01:18:28.200 clinics had about uh about 9.8 of them had other psychiatric conditions but post transition that

01:18:36.680 number jumps to about 61 so they're six times worse off um after transitioning as they were

01:18:45.240 before transitioning so this idea that they're actually like like destroying somebody's body

01:18:51.080 improves their mental health um as if we needed to be told that that's a bad idea um you would

01:18:59.080 have to be a doctor to believe something so stupid but now um we have it right from the

01:19:03.560 doctors that's yeah this was always really bad for people do you think this is a crack

01:19:11.160 on the nuclear family because that's something that i've always thought it's like really right

01:19:15.720 since um they took god out of the schools um when you know our taxes got so high interest rates were

01:19:22.920 so high that moms had to start going to work i mean and that's over the course of my lifetime

01:19:28.760 i feel like i was very lucky because my mom got to stay home with us kids till i was in about grade

01:19:33.720 five i think so i i think i'm luckier than most kids because their mom doesn't get to stay home

01:19:38.600 at all but i mean i think this has been just an attack on the nuclear family um for for decades

01:19:44.360 already and the weaker that your nuclear family is as i've always said you know strong people

01:19:49.960 build strong families strong families build strong communities strong communities build

01:19:54.440 strong countries and it really seems like this is um on purpose by design i think um

01:20:03.240 it's taken place over the course of generations um and if you've ever seen that clip of yuri

01:20:09.400 bezman of or watched that interview that he did in 1984 with cbs news he was the kgb defector

01:20:15.080 who talked about active measures um or uh ideological subversion and he said that that

01:20:21.320 was what eighty percent uh that eighty percent of the kgb actually got up to back into the day was

01:20:26.280 was about ideological subversion and they went into the schools was it was four stages there was

01:20:32.120 the demoralization and then uh it's demoralization something crisis and then normalization uh

01:20:41.720 demoralization destabilization crisis and um and normalization so um what they did in the

01:20:48.440 demoralization phase is they went into the schools uh in the wake of world war ii and

01:20:54.760 put a like a bunch of commie nudges in there to turn the kids against western civilization and

01:21:01.880 he said in the 80s he said look those kids are grown-ups now they're already working in your

01:21:07.160 institutions it's too late to stop this process i'm just warning you as to what is coming and so

01:21:13.320 those kids in the wake of world war ii would have been the boomer generation who were demoralized

01:21:19.320 to turn them against western civilization um vietnam they they dodged the draft and the ones

01:21:26.120 that did go murdered their own officers um to stay out of combat there was uh over 800

01:21:32.600 fragging instance that was when they would uh throw the grenades into the officer's bunk while

01:21:37.080 he was sleeping um and they weren't even tracking uh they call it fragging now because it was named

01:21:43.880 for the fragmentation grenade but it's it's called fratricide uh the pentagon wasn't even keeping

01:21:48.520 statistics in previous wars not until 1968 um but they tracked over 850 i think incidents in the

01:21:55.320 the Vietnam War. And it was the massacre of My Lai and the fall of Saigon and all kinds of stuff

01:22:02.840 that went on there. And Judith Butler, the professor that I named earlier, she would have

01:22:10.460 been a baby boomer. And it was 1967 when a West German socialist student activist, Rudy Deutschki

01:22:19.980 said, now we must go on the long march through the institutions. Who was he saying that to? He was

01:22:24.840 saying that to people who are graduating around that time. And that's what's happened is they

01:22:31.680 went into the institutions. The process has already started, just like Yuri Besmanov said,

01:22:35.860 in the 80s. And they've been continuing to move up and up the social ladder as they get older and

01:22:43.280 older people retire. And now they run absolutely everything. So yeah. And that's what you see if

01:22:52.720 you look at our institutions and who's running them, who are the judges that we're complaining

01:22:56.820 about right now? Who is central to the invocation of the Emergency Measures Act? I would say

01:23:02.960 Jody Thomas, the National Security and Intelligence Advisor. Janice Charette.

01:23:09.520 Unelected. Janice Charette. It is the institutional power behind the government,

01:23:13.960 behind the politicians that really matters. And that's even like the old party, the people

01:23:19.140 managing the party in the background. It's the riding associations, picking the candidates.

01:23:23.640 It's the deans, tenured professors, chief justices of the Supreme Court, police chiefs like

01:23:31.460 Steve Bell, so on and so forth. So that's the pattern that I see anyway, is that it took place

01:23:39.660 slowly over time. They started out, you know, with the protest movement. They were career

01:23:48.600 women highest divorce rates children um kind of uh you know seen and not heard and um and that that

01:23:59.380 was where the nuclear family really dissolved when when they came into uh into early adulthood and

01:24:04.540 started having families that was the the highest divorce rate latchkey kids um and this kind of

01:24:09.220 thing and and that has been the messaging ever since like they that's that's where it started

01:24:16.400 that uh women need to be girl bosses and uh um you know kids kids should be put in daycares

01:24:22.400 and and stuff like this so uh i think it's only it's gotten worse over time but i think

01:24:28.560 yeah the pendulum the pendulum is going to come back pretty soon on this one you can see it

01:24:32.080 already started to come back it's like having having families and homesteading is is like

01:24:38.080 the coolest thing you can do right now right yeah did you see just a ranch the other day

01:24:45.760 the price on a bottle fed calf now usually if somebody has twins most ranchers know this

01:24:51.120 the mother will only take to one twin sometimes and then they have to do something with the other

01:24:54.960 twin the most time you bottle field i remember years ago you could go get a calf from a ranch

01:24:59.440 for 75 bucks 100 bucks something like that they are now worth two thousand dollars 18 to two

01:25:05.040 thousand dollars because people are lapping up bottle-fed calves for source material that that's

01:25:13.840 a good sign that's an amazing sign so and good for the ranchers worth some good money there and

01:25:18.540 they're finally getting a little bit for their beef right now homesteading yeah yeah how do we

01:25:26.900 fix it that i get i get asked that question a lot same thing how do we fix it jeff like how do you

01:25:32.440 Yeah, exactly. Great minds think alike, Chris.

01:25:36.780 You know, I think we've got to be thinking in terms of, we've got to be thinking over the long term.

01:25:46.420 We need to do things strategically.

01:25:48.180 I think a lot of people got very demoralized when they saw what happened with the convoy.

01:25:54.960 And it was just the first battle, though, in a much longer war.

01:25:59.460 um yeah we're going to take some casualties along the way like like we have um but that was an

01:26:06.620 overwhelming success in in my mind like the convoy ended a global pandemic um yeah there were follow

01:26:15.460 on convoys in the u.s in in australia um there were there was the truckers rebellion in uh all of that

01:26:23.780 basically was launched in Ottawa, a global freedom movement.

01:26:31.360 And we just got to keep at it.

01:26:35.160 Part of the strategy here is to demoralize us.

01:26:39.160 Another part is to saturate us with information.

01:26:42.780 So we need to kind of be very careful with how we spend our attention and bandwidth.

01:26:48.960 like prioritize what you're going to spend your attention on because part of the game here is

01:26:56.480 to saturate you with information so that you're not really able to make sensible decisions in your

01:27:02.900 own defense. But we are... I remember who you're dealing with too. We're actually dealing with a

01:27:10.140 government and a military that flat out came out and admitted that they saw the pandemic as a great

01:27:15.160 opportunity um for to perform psychological operations on canadians um they were surveilling

01:27:21.640 us we found that out you know nobody is coming to save us is what i'm trying to say nobody is

01:27:27.000 coming to save us um you're right it's a long game and we have to we have to work together and

01:27:33.960 uh so be aware like just if they're doing it if they did it in the pandemic there's nothing to

01:27:38.760 say they're not doing it right now no and maybe five years from now they'll come out and say oh

01:27:43.240 Oh, by the way, in 2026, we were conducting psychological operations on you.

01:27:48.120 Oops, sorry.

01:27:50.460 We're on the right side of history.

01:27:51.920 There's no doubt about that.

01:27:53.100 And you have to make sure, you know, you keep that mindset.

01:27:55.440 They've taken a few of the players off the battlefield, of course,

01:27:58.360 by locking people up in house arrest and courts and trial and travel and you name it.

01:28:03.700 But, you know, some of us are still here.

01:28:07.240 We're just, you know.

01:28:08.420 yeah and um like i said like it is a long game so i think people just kind of need to settle

01:28:15.900 into that i'd say it's probably going to be about another four years before we see some

01:28:19.020 real uh progress like but we are getting you know we're seeing signs of progress um here and there

01:28:26.300 we're seeing the pendulum start to swing back mainstream politicians are talking about castle

01:28:30.520 doctrine in this country you know five minutes ago five minutes ago they were saying there was

01:28:36.460 just a massacre in portapique that the the some uh rcmp paid informant uh went on a rampage in

01:28:44.400 portapique so we're going to take all your guns now that that's ongoing right now they're they're

01:28:49.920 going with their gun grab and we still have mainstream politicians saying you know uh you

01:28:56.060 should be allowed to shoot somebody if they break into your house in the middle of the night i never

01:28:58.860 thought we'd hear that conversation go mainstream but here we are so that's just one example it

01:29:04.700 seems to be coming back kind of issue by issue but the pendulum is starting to swing back so

01:29:09.360 um you know don't don't lose hope you know and politicians being a political figure is is a

01:29:16.440 thankless job primarily so when you see politicians standing upright and doing the right thing and

01:29:20.860 vocalizing what needs to be vocalized give them the credit give them the pat on the back that

01:29:24.800 they deserve make sure they know that they're appreciated so it goes both ways but when they

01:29:28.680 mess up like you know what trudeau and freeland and all these people make sure they hear about

01:29:32.460 that too yeah um i'm curious has anybody actually commented on my case any any politician besides

01:29:41.980 uh tin houston when he was asked i wonder i haven't heard i don't think so hey i did see a

01:29:49.660 comment here a little while ago asking if uh any had any updates on james top and that was actually

01:29:54.120 something i wanted to ask you too uh do you still talk to james how is he doing um james is living

01:30:00.200 a quiet life out in bc and i think he just wanted to do his good deed leave his silver bullet and

01:30:07.160 ride off into the sunset um as you know he is entitled to do like he he serves uh canada in

01:30:14.040 the military what did he do 26 years i think and uh uh he did deployments to five different combat

01:30:22.120 zones so he he went way beyond um i think in terms of serving canada like he went way way beyond um

01:30:32.280 and now uh i think he's officially retired so um that's about it i uh we have shot a message back

01:30:39.240 and forth like here and there but um for the most part i think he's just kind of he wants to take

01:30:45.000 it easy and and live quietly what they did i think that was always his plan that was always his plan

01:30:50.120 he just you know he wanted to go make his point do something that was really important

01:30:54.520 uh to him to do for the country and then yeah and then just carry on and go live his life

01:31:00.680 he backpacked across his country and and did it for the future of canada and the media and

01:31:06.680 the government demonized him not i mean he did he did he get to meet with a political figure

01:31:10.600 in ottawa i believe maybe some here probably yeah probably marched with him yes yeah some of the

01:31:18.040 politicians to go out and march with him but i don't know if they met him in ottawa when he got

01:31:23.560 that um yeah there there was a uh a small caucus of uh conservatives who met with him while he was

01:31:31.240 in ottawa when when they were in opposition too that's right you're right actually they're right

01:31:40.120 and what's next for you jeff other than that mayday mayday after mayday then

01:31:48.040 No, I can't make any promises.

01:31:50.460 I mean, it's just so unpredictable these days.

01:31:52.900 Every time I'm trying to do the right thing, I end up getting arrested.

01:31:56.180 I know.

01:31:57.960 But post-May Day, I'm not looking that far ahead.

01:32:02.940 I would not be the least bit surprised, though, to see other May Day events happen.

01:32:10.380 There seems to be quite a bit of interest, actually.

01:32:12.540 a lot of detransitioners young people who've been affected by this have been contacting us and

01:32:18.880 they a lot of people are saying is there any way for you to get me there and I'm kind of like this

01:32:24.760 is we didn't fundraise ahead of time we don't have enough money to pay for the tickets that we

01:32:30.480 already bought I wish I could I'll see if I could do something to help you but maybe the answer is

01:32:37.280 do this in other cities and go to uh other provincial legislatures and put people on blast

01:32:43.520 in their press galleries um because uh this this conversation needs to go mainstream

01:32:50.240 yeah and this point up here if you want to follow mayday canada on x there may underscore day

01:32:56.240 underscore canada on x and you said www.maydaycanada.com was the and of course uh we did

01:33:05.360 see that they are also on facebook and instagram so if you want to give them a follow uh check out

01:33:10.880 what's going to be happening in in ottawa on may the 5th jeff is going to be there there's going

01:33:16.160 to be a lot of people there by the sounds of it or if you want to donate to help uh to help with

01:33:20.480 their needs anything that they may need um you can go to www.maydaycanada.com jeff i think it's

01:33:29.040 just about 11 o'clock where you're at we're um you're on one side of the coast and i'm on the

01:33:34.160 the other side of the coast somewhere in the middle and you're in the middle yeah here's the

01:33:39.660 sandwich if you go to the if you go to the easternmost point of cape breton so when we

01:33:45.080 were going to the maritimes a few years ago we decided to go the scenic route to halifax from

01:33:49.640 prince edward island around cape breton anyways we didn't get to halifax till very late but right

01:33:56.180 on the easternmost tip um of cape breton there's the cliffs and you head into the water and there's

01:34:02.600 a big red sticker there that we stopped i stopped and stuck a big red sticker right on the most

01:34:08.100 eastern point of st breton and signed my name to it so if you're ever going by there check it out

01:34:13.580 and see if it's still there what is i should know this what is the most eastern point that's the one

01:34:20.760 yeah i don't know but it was where for you you drive up the side i was terrified because i was

01:34:26.360 i'm not afraid of heights but we were driving up the side of this cliff basically i mean there's

01:34:31.260 guardrails it was quite a stiff or a steep hill and then when you get to the top um that's when

01:34:37.300 you start and you start going back east i'm not sure what it's called honestly but okay beautiful

01:34:43.560 i have a couple of um ideas and i and a harley so no doubt i will be um somewhere up that way

01:34:51.720 uh very soon i think as soon as mayday is done i'm going to uh get on the motorcycle for a few

01:34:57.960 months. You need a sidecar on that motorcycle, you know, Axel, go for a ride or what? Yeah,

01:35:05.500 I do have a sidecar actually. Oh, great. Mike does too. Mike Reardon does too. I don't know

01:35:10.760 he could see. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Okay, Jeff. Well, I want to thank you

01:35:15.720 so very much for coming on tonight and hanging out with us. It was great to get caught up

01:35:19.800 and hear what you've been up to and what you're going to be up to. I wish you all the best

01:35:23.560 with the rally in Ottawa. I'll be watching

01:35:25.600 for sure.

01:35:27.140 Thanks so much, guys. It's always a pleasure to catch up with you both.

01:35:30.180 Absolutely, Jeff.

01:35:31.080 We'll catch you for an update after the rally.

01:35:34.300 All right. Thanks.

01:35:35.380 All right. Sweet. Thanks. Take care, Jeff.

01:35:37.760 Take care. Bye.

01:35:41.220 Amazing.

01:35:42.420 Absolutely amazing.

01:35:43.860 Gosh, we have made some great friends, haven't we?

01:35:47.140 Oh, the list

01:35:47.900 is so long. I commonly

01:35:49.840 start thinking I have Alzheimer's. I have to

01:35:51.820 write people's names down on the call.

01:35:53.560 like right away or I forget it because I've met so many people that maybe I do have a touch of

01:35:57.380 Alzheimer's I have my head's full I uh you know I'll truck in the last little while I've I've been

01:36:04.060 the so blessed to run into so many people from convoy truckers um at different stops um we got

01:36:11.260 to meet up with Chad he was one of the guys who was involved with uh downtown he actually had a

01:36:15.360 trailer and he would take loads of garbage from downtown Ottawa out to the local uh nuisance

01:36:20.520 grounds and i met chad he pulls him beside me and in saskatoon the other day we had a good visit you

01:36:25.880 know uh he was trucking all the way out here from out east he's in ontario a couple guys in this

01:36:32.200 queue the other night when i was having supper there come walking up and yeah it's pretty cool

01:36:37.320 there's so much uh there's there's a big community that's been built around this country right now

01:36:41.880 because of uh you know what happened there and i'm very appreciative for that absolutely

01:36:50.520 Pardon me.

01:36:52.060 Well, I'm going to go get something to eat.

01:36:54.040 I think I'm allowed.

01:36:57.120 I got two tires off the truck with 20 pounds remaining to be put in them.

01:37:01.220 Then I'll mount the tires back on the axles,

01:37:03.300 and then I'll do eight more drives tomorrow,

01:37:05.360 and Big Red will be ready for its safety.

01:37:08.020 Thanks, everybody, for joining us.

01:37:10.060 You still got to go back out and do some more work then?

01:37:13.240 I do.

01:37:13.920 I got a little bit of work here tonight, yeah.

01:37:15.760 Sierra's boyfriend is in Canada right now.

01:37:18.740 He's from Maryland,

01:37:19.300 And so he came out this afternoon and helped me in the shop, flipping tires and pulling wrenches and getting the fuel tank on.

01:37:25.440 So it was really good to spend the afternoon with him.

01:37:27.080 He said he'd come back out tomorrow and help me again.

01:37:29.340 So obviously I didn't put him through too much today, which was nice to see.

01:37:33.080 Good.

01:37:33.760 That's good.

01:37:35.440 Right on.

01:37:35.980 Well, thank you, Tasha, for helping us out behind the scenes.

01:37:38.500 And I want to thank everybody that came in tonight from the community.

01:37:41.740 Thank you so much.

01:37:43.200 As I posted early, thank you for the super chats.

01:37:45.380 um and we're also going to be opening up the memberships and adding some um adding some i

01:37:50.100 think streams will maybe add an extra membership only q a stream once a week or something anyways

01:37:56.260 we're getting uh to work on the details on that and um yeah i think it's going to be i think it's

01:38:02.820 going to be fun we are growing our little show is growing we have over 6 000 subscribers now

01:38:07.860 um tasha's got us set up on rumble she's got us set up with a sub stack um we're going to be

01:38:13.220 be getting set up on well all the platforms where you can listen to your podcast so there'll be an

01:38:17.640 audio only version coming up at some point so um and just thanks to everyone for for showing up

01:38:22.960 with us week after week we are absolutely having a ball um next week we have dr francis christian

01:38:29.260 will be joining us from the formerly from the university of saskatchewan so we're really

01:38:34.920 looking forward to that he's a very special man very well we appreciate everybody being on here

01:38:40.800 Thanks for the comments tonight, and catch you in a week from now.

01:38:45.500 Yeah.

01:38:45.980 See you on Thursday.

01:38:47.160 Back in Alberta for me.

01:38:49.920 Who knows where you'll be?

01:38:51.880 Exactly.

01:38:52.180 Could be on my way to Ontario.

01:38:53.420 I do have that load booked for Ontario,

01:38:54.980 but this big snowstorm that's hitting the prairies right now is headed east,

01:38:57.840 so that was what I was wanting to prevent was not get stuck on Highway 17

01:39:01.200 because I run the bottom route.

01:39:03.220 I always run 17.

01:39:04.340 I just don't like to go out there in the wintertime.

01:39:05.900 So once I get drives on it, Big Red will be rolling right through Ottawa on the 417.

01:39:14.240 Yes, it will.

01:39:15.640 Give him a big honk.

01:39:17.400 Honk, honk.

01:39:18.040 He'll be going right past the Elgin Street police station.

01:39:21.900 Give him a big honk.

01:39:23.200 Absolutely.

01:39:23.720 No, don't.

01:39:24.400 No, that is not counseling mischief.

01:39:27.380 That's not counseling mischief.

01:39:28.720 I'm just kidding.

01:39:29.360 Don't give him a big honk.

01:39:30.340 Well, it's a safety hazard.

01:39:31.020 The horns are mounted on Big Red for a reason.

01:39:32.900 so if there's a safety issue i have to honk a horn then that's it's part of my pre-trip inspection

01:39:37.800 every morning that's right honking your horn oh man we will see you soon take care everyone take

01:39:44.840 care have a great night see you next week bye

House Arrest - April 24, 2026

Ep. 25 - Jeff Evely

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