House Arrest - Ep. 46 Rodney Palmer

00:00:00.000 Okay guys, when is enough enough? January 23rd. I say we start a slow roll across Canada.

00:00:24.300 Wow, Tasha, great job on that intro. What do you think, guys?

00:00:29.280 absolutely awesome that is our amazing producer tasha she's so awesome i think we should play it

00:00:37.000 one more time just so that everybody can see it what do you think i think we can okay let's let's

00:00:41.620 do it let's see if i can do this hang on guys tell us what you think of the intro okay guys

00:00:46.220 when is enough enough january 23rd i say we start a slow roll across canada

00:00:52.700 i love it great job yeah great job tasha and you know what's so cool is that we're just learning

00:01:16.060 about ai at work so there's uh lots to learn great job how are you doing christopher i'm doing very

00:01:22.100 very well i spent the last couple days in the office here how are you good i'm good what it's

00:01:27.380 been a crazy we got lots to catch up on you're not in medicine hat anymore are you and i seen

00:01:32.520 you're on news today oh did i make the cbc again i did propaganda radio tv i love how they just

00:01:43.720 distort the actual facts but they just kind of run their own narrative on like tamara lidge isn't

00:01:49.520 allowed to go to the white house was it about the white house tomorrow like honestly it was an

00:01:53.840 offhand cuff by ezra that made them think that it wasn't the fact that was it no it was yeah anyways

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00:03:24.040 can't believe uh we have our good friend roddy palmer stopping by uh we're going to get to him

00:03:28.220 in a couple minutes we'll give our little update here but this is very a really surreal moment for

00:03:32.720 me because i remember watching mr palmer on the news when i was a kid well not a kid i guess i

00:03:40.000 don't think he's that much older than me but um and so i i was laughing with him today i said that

00:03:44.920 was my first starstruck moment in ottawa was right at the very beginning there when i saw rodney

00:03:49.780 palmer walking through and i just couldn't believe that everyone wasn't freaking out

00:03:53.520 um he's a superstar he's student superstars as far as i'm concerned uh so let's get to some

00:03:59.880 updates first Chris how was your week under house arrest what did you get up to I was it was good

00:04:05.300 I've been home so it's slowed down just a touch which is really really nice so I've been getting

00:04:09.400 my office stuff caught up I was able to Tuesday I got permission to attend the the the fall last

00:04:16.500 car show in Swift Current there was about 430 entries of cars in the Swift Current Casino for

00:04:21.160 our road cruisers our local car club so I spent the whole day Tuesday in the afternoon polishing

00:04:26.300 wheels and stacks and everything and i i got permission to take big red in and it was kind of

00:04:31.340 a it was a really good that lost so many people to talk to it was a really good experience i had

00:04:35.480 such a good time and and yeah i've been focused on just trying to get off of stuff there's so

00:04:39.740 much stuff in the office that i'm just behind on so catching my breath a little bit doing a little

00:04:45.000 bit of stuff out in the yard getting ready for fall it's actually nice so you so you haven't

00:04:50.460 been on the cbc that is what you're saying i haven't why would you have been on the cbc today

00:04:54.620 tamara oh gosh yes it did happen well as you well know i i feel like today was a draw i am actually

00:05:01.260 not disappointed in the outcome of course we were awaiting the judge's decision for the variation

00:05:06.380 order application that we put in so that i could travel internationally she denied and dismissed

00:05:11.180 that application and she's still leaving the inter-provincial travel up to the jurisdiction

00:05:16.940 so nothing's changed it's not a win it's not a loss it's just the same and it's totally fine

00:05:21.660 you know when you think about it chris we only have 19 days left of the house arrest

00:05:25.980 portion of our sentence and so i feel like it's gone by really fast i think you and i have done

00:05:31.580 great i think we've tried to find the silver lining and all this and of course we do like

00:05:35.820 to mock what is mock worthy and so here we are we are here right 19 more days left like what

00:05:43.100 this is going to be awesome then when i'm passing through you know manitoba right now i guess for

00:05:47.100 you it would have been alberta we could actually meet for coffee instead of you being stuck in your

00:05:51.420 little cubicle there so that's right well i'm actually in a trailer now uh i we changed

00:05:57.100 your restrictions as you well know so i am out in manitoba looking after my granddaughters over

00:06:01.340 harvest for uh my daughter and my son-in-law so it has been busy um they are five sorry yeah five

00:06:08.060 uh one and zero so sorry two and zero so it's been very very busy but i'm enjoying it and

00:06:14.780 i did go into brandon today and i met with my new parole officer he was uh he was very chill and

00:06:20.220 very kind so um i don't get any leisure time in manitoba like you do in saskatchewan still and

00:06:26.700 my necessities of lifetime is actually cut by an hour i only get four hours so which is going to

00:06:31.740 be a bit of a challenge in mana because it's so rural here right but uh but we're going to make

00:06:35.660 it work and he seemed pretty chill so you know what i'm surrounded by lakes and trees and hills

00:06:41.180 and uh girls my girls and i couldn't be happier so i don't feel like i'm suffering

00:06:47.420 yeah there's something about the piece of the countryside and instead of being stuck in a city

00:06:53.920 i think i probably would have drove myself crazy if i had to be stuck in a house and like medicine

00:06:59.900 had but i was obviously given what i was given for a reason and and i was able to be here at

00:07:05.260 the farm and truck and and that was it made it a little bit easier so yeah yeah you're very lucky

00:07:11.260 to be out there and even being in medicine hat like i think i said last week you know i'm very

00:07:14.640 grateful that my house arrest could be served like in a home like I couldn't imagine number

00:07:20.180 one being 25 years old and under house arrest I think that would be tough but at my age really

00:07:24.780 it's not so bad um and of course we like to joke about our curfew but you know we have to be in at

00:07:30.040 10 o'clock at night but I mean I'm just I'm 54 years old on Saturday and so we have I'm in bed

00:07:35.600 by nine so um yeah it's it's it's all good so let's see who we got in the chat and then we

00:07:44.880 are going to bring on our very special guest we got candace hi candace how are you still got to

00:07:51.020 book her on the show actually i will get on that uh this week we'll look at getting her on in

00:07:55.120 october hello mischief makers i need another coffee informed consent welcome yes yes and of

00:08:02.040 course susan nice to see you susan uh the schwartz awakens is coming in from okotoks alberta welcome

00:08:09.360 to the show hello everybody wildflower jilly beans back in the house oh my god you got lots

00:08:15.720 jen is from sarkin nice so many well uh don't forget to please give us a like and please share

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00:08:28.860 miss a show um we uh we've been so very lucky um and actually you know before we bring in the guest

00:08:34.940 i just want to every to let everybody know that uh mr palmer had a hand in naming the show we were

00:08:40.540 on our way back from ottawa last year after we were sentenced chris if you remember and and uh

00:08:45.500 he gave us a call to check in and said you guys need to start a show called house arrest

00:08:50.300 and of course we we'd already had we had kind of one in the works or we'd been planning

00:08:54.700 on starting one and then um of course we hadn't been convicted or sentenced yet so our lawyer

00:09:01.340 said no you should probably wait on that but uh now all gloves are off so there we go okay

00:09:10.060 let me get into okay well obviously as you all well know our guest tonight is mr rodney palmer

00:09:16.700 rodney is a was nominated for a gemini award he was also awarded oh my gosh that was a mouthful

00:09:22.780 the canadian radio hang on i don't want to mess this up uh he also won an award a prestigious

00:09:30.300 award from the canadian radio and television news directors association for his reporting

00:09:35.900 in israel and the west bank he was an investigative reporter for cbc radio back when that meant

00:09:41.420 something and he later became a foreign correspondent and bureau chief for ctv news

00:09:46.940 reporting from india china and the middle east now you've recently seen him in the news

00:09:51.660 He has testified at the National Citizens Inquiry and just recently at the Allison Inquiry.

00:09:59.220 We have a clip from his testimony there last week, and then we're going to bring on Mr. Rodney Palmer.

00:10:04.440 What I observed very quickly during COVID was that the CBC morphed into the type of broadcaster that I witnessed in China, in Syria, in North Korea.

00:10:13.760 It wasn't the public broadcaster that I had been trained as.

00:10:19.260 I believe it's a state broadcaster, and I'm going to explain the difference between those two things.

00:10:25.160 A public broadcaster engages in news gathering, which is defined in the Oxford Dictionary as the process of doing research on news items.

00:10:33.100 And the way it works is from the bottom up.

00:10:34.740 So a little reporter in a small town in Saskatchewan will do a story that's local, and maybe Western Canada becomes interested in it,

00:10:42.000 and maybe the nation does, and it goes up, and it becomes a national news story.

00:10:45.420 That's a bottom up.

00:10:46.360 That's how the apparatus is designed to work.

00:10:48.560 that's a public broadcaster. It tells the story of the nation that holds us together and knits us

00:10:53.260 together by telling our stories. But I heard it becoming a state broadcaster, and a state

00:10:59.320 broadcaster works on propaganda. It uses the same apparatus, the same anchors, the same reporters,

00:11:04.920 right down to that little reporter in Saskatchewan. And what it does, it's defined in Oxford as

00:11:10.220 the intentional manipulation of public opinion through lies and half-truths. It uses the same

00:11:17.860 apparatus but it comes from the top down the government tells us right down to that little

00:11:22.100 reporter and they all speak with a unified voice welcome roddy palmer how are you it is such a

00:11:30.420 great honor to be on the show that you acknowledge that i named i'm i'm a little concerned to hear

00:11:37.860 that you were starstruck by me it does it does tell us just how sheltered your life was up until

00:11:42.580 that point well i went i did grow up in rural saskatchewans there like i said to you today

00:11:48.180 there was times you know when cbc was the only channel that we had but this is back when we had

00:11:52.980 party lines so so i'm definitely dating myself it's the only channel then it should be it should

00:11:59.860 be culpable for what it perpetrated on the people of saskatchewan then or manitoba or wherever you

00:12:05.220 has changed the lies about the covid vaccines yes exactly it's a pleasure having you rodney normally

00:12:12.980 you're the one interviewing people but now you're on our show so we get to chat and you've become

00:12:17.140 such a good friend over the last number of years your performance and your your speaking in the

00:12:22.180 documentary unacceptable a few years ago was absolutely amazing you were so well spoken you

00:12:28.020 put everything where it needed to be in the truths of ottawa can you give us a little insight into

00:12:32.820 what what made you go to the freedom convoy in ottawa in february 2022 i guess i'm a bit of an

00:12:39.860 accidental hero here chris because um my best friend died um about 14 days after uh taking the

00:12:48.580 covid this third dose of the covid vaccine and i you know i was there when he met his wife and our

00:12:54.740 kids i was best man at their wedding and our kids were the same age and so i mean i he was since we

00:13:00.260 were 15 years old um so i went to ottawa where he lived and just sat with his wife and his kids and

00:13:07.940 we just didn't know i mean i knew what happened to him but they weren't quite awake to it yet

00:13:12.420 none of it mattered because they'd lost the man of the house right um and then i heard that this

00:13:18.420 truck convoy i was doing a lot of um volunteer work with the canadian covid care alliance trying

00:13:23.940 to advise their scientists and doctors initially how to get their story into the press and then

00:13:30.420 when i realized that the press wasn't missing their story but it was intentionally ignoring

00:13:36.420 the story of the truth and then it would come for them and try to crucify them and shame and

00:13:42.980 blame and and and out them then i shifted policy to say just ignore them just don't answer their

00:13:50.340 questions anymore so the canadian kobe care alliance top brass called me and said this

00:13:57.220 truck convoys rolling in and i'd been there already for a couple of weeks and i said you know

00:14:02.740 frankly i was considering leaving town because i think i'm going to get stuck in traffic

00:14:07.380 with this thing and they said we want you to uh film it with this um filmmaker benjamin hub

00:14:14.660 who was making a documentary which came to be known as unacceptable based on the trudeau

00:14:20.340 line that these people were unacceptable and so i went they actually purchased camera gear for me

00:14:27.320 i hadn't touched a camera proper in you know 15 years and i went down to wellington street

00:14:33.320 to film it rolling in and that's how i came to be there and i i uh liaised with ben and i said

00:14:42.360 i'm just going to do what i do and i'm used to being in emerging stories with um this type of

00:14:49.380 environment this type of uncontrolled environment i've been sent into earthquake zones i've been

00:14:53.140 sent into massive political rallies in calcutta um you know uh the nuclear testing between india

00:14:59.940 and pakistan just you you go in and you figure out what's happening and you film it and you get

00:15:05.000 a good representation from a few people and you put a little news story together so i was you know

00:15:09.680 i was quite adept at that so that's what i started doing and the first thing that happened

00:15:14.840 well first thing I noticed it was like Canada Day

00:15:17.780 and I texted my friend

00:15:19.560 who was living in eastern Ottawa

00:15:20.800 I said geez Kim it was just like us

00:15:23.580 when we were kids

00:15:24.520 20 years old going to Canada Day

00:15:26.900 and she says my god

00:15:29.220 that's not what I'm seeing on the television

00:15:30.900 on the television they're saying it's this Nazi rally

00:15:33.260 so by morning

00:15:35.560 Trudeau, Jagmeet Singh

00:15:37.320 the mayor of Ottawa they were all saying 0.95

00:15:39.080 this is a group of white supremacists

00:15:41.360 that have taken over the city of Ottawa

00:15:43.500 so I knew I observed that not to be true and I decided well what does a journalist do he

00:15:51.140 gets a reaction from the people who are being accused so I knocked on the first truck door

00:15:58.600 and there was a Jamaican man who said do me look like a white supremacist the next guy was also

00:16:05.300 Caribbean East Indian descent and on and on and on until I you know finally found you know somebody 0.95

00:16:11.620 might have passed as white um and i just i i i said you know these this is it's ridiculous right 0.98

00:16:18.320 of course i'm asking this you know black jamaican guy are you a white supremacist like the like the 0.97

00:16:23.080 government says um so i knew there was inherent comedy and ridicule in that but when i realized 0.95

00:16:29.420 that that the government owned the cbc airwaves and that ctv global any other um television station

00:16:37.820 was speaking with the same voice i decided that the truckers are you know there was no organization

00:16:47.080 as you both know it was an idea that you guys had let's go down and block some roads and um you

00:16:53.700 tapped into um the america the canadian um psyche at the time and a couple hundred thousand people

00:17:02.100 showed up to support. So I went down to, I found out that there was like a headquarters at the

00:17:08.240 Swiss hotel. And I went down there to say, look, I've got this footage that I think you guys should

00:17:14.420 be getting out on social media to counteract what the government's doing on the CBC. And so I gave

00:17:20.920 them the clips. I was filming, you know, technically for the Canadian COVID Care Alliance and Benjamin

00:17:26.280 hub and this this movie that became unacceptable which by the way i've never seen um i was out of

00:17:32.720 the country when it aired in toronto and i and i wasn't able to see it anywhere else but i'm told

00:17:36.720 that it's it's an excellent portrayal of what went down um so that's how it started that's it just was

00:17:42.600 quite organic i was there by coincidence but what i saw i saw to be true and i was experienced um

00:17:50.080 you know, an expert, let's say, at reporting in these live situations.

00:17:55.840 And that's when I first met Tamara.

00:17:59.540 And that's when I first also realized that the alternative media was doing such an amazing job.

00:18:07.700 There's a reporter who I admire tremendously named Alexa Lavoie from Rebel News.

00:18:13.640 And so somebody said, well, that's Tamara Leach over there.

00:18:16.640 She's the one that's, you know, he ran the GoFundMe and she's kind of behind this whole thing.

00:18:22.780 So you got to you got to get an interview with her.

00:18:25.160 So I had to line up behind Rebel News and Alexa Lavoie.

00:18:30.120 And then I was down on the street and there was a police officer.

00:18:33.060 And I went, oh, that guy's talking to some people.

00:18:34.640 I'm going to go talk to him.

00:18:35.580 And I had to line up behind Alexa Lavoie and everywhere I went.

00:18:39.780 And I'm good at what I do when I'm on the field being a foreign correspondent. 0.60

00:18:43.120 and i was one step behind alexa lavoie every step of the way and then she broke the story 0.96

00:18:50.040 of that stupid nazi flag i knew when i saw that thing on ctv in the morning the next morning when 0.96

00:18:56.940 i was at a hotel somewhere down by wellington street i knew that that was bs because we never 0.99

00:19:03.700 put a still shot on a on on television never unless it was like my face and i'm you know

00:19:11.460 an earthquake zone and we can't get a picture so they go so but you never put a picture of anything

00:19:18.920 that isn't a video and there was this picture of the nazi flag and it was held up on the camera

00:19:24.720 for like a minute that's that's an eternity on television and i thought well there was as many

00:19:32.440 cameras as there were people down there how come no one got that video no one it must not be real

00:19:40.460 it must have been some but i didn't quite get like my gut knew it was bs and then alexa maybe

00:19:47.420 a week after two weeks after the whole thing's over she starts looking into this thing and says

00:19:51.820 you notice how it's way up high like it's on the second floor that's one thing that bothered me

00:19:57.500 like where was the second floor everybody was on the street right everybody right where's the

00:20:01.860 second floor i didn't remember a second floor like up a balcony something she determined that

00:20:06.260 and there was an angle right they were going up a set of stairs this only exists in one place in

00:20:11.700 all of ottawa it's on the side of the chateau laurier hotel yes and to get that so so they're

00:20:17.700 up here and to get the the the the camera angle from down here you had to be down on the canal

00:20:23.540 and she does this brilliant report showing that the only access to the canal is a set of stairs

00:20:29.320 that's chained off for the winter so no one can get down there so somebody had to have some special

00:20:35.600 access to get down there and the can and the and the flag were it i mean that was one big friggin

00:20:41.500 nazi flag like that thing was yeah not the size of a truck trailer right like where do you where

00:20:45.180 do you even get that right who has that so it wasn't unfurled on the street ever or you would

00:20:51.440 have seen it so they unfurled it long enough for the click click click and then put it away

00:20:57.000 and there was a group of um protest sign f trudeau and this and that right and then there was a second

00:21:04.740 picture of it on a park bench see any park benches there on wellington street with a nice grass you

00:21:12.380 think that was also down by the canal and those same f trudeau flags so it was a bunch there

00:21:16.940 weren't you couldn't take a picture without a backdrop of a hundred thousand people any direction

00:21:21.420 right so they had this quite quite little park setting so alexa points out that these were

00:21:27.120 clearly staged pictures and found out that the first person that put it online was a professional

00:21:33.260 photographer associated with palm paul martin and the prime minister's office and the first person

00:21:38.540 who tweeted out was um i can't remember his name now but he was basically jagmeet singh's chief of

00:21:43.340 staff so she plausibly associated that nazi flag picture with the prime minister's office and the

00:21:50.060 ndp incredible yeah okay okay scary when you ask yourself who in downtown ottawa owns a nazi flag

00:22:00.140 because that flag would be somewhere and where did they get it because it wasn't anybody it's

00:22:03.820 one big beautiful flag too i mean that's a that was not a that was not a nazi relic flag man that

00:22:09.660 was a brand new flag from some it was who what flag store has that who who when you come in and

00:22:15.260 go you know what this what this custom flag made you know like why was it that would be determined

00:22:23.260 to hate crime would it not you flew a nazi flag on our parliament grounds practically comedy chris

00:22:28.700 like there's actually i don't know if you watch the show curb your enthusiasm one of my favorite

00:22:31.980 shows there's a there's a brilliant scene where the the the um the protagonist uh spills a coffee

00:22:38.620 on the street on a guy on his garment and it happens to be a kkk outfit and the protagonist

00:22:43.580 is a jewish guy and he goes oh i'm so sorry i'll take it to the cleaners for you and he's trying to 0.86

00:22:47.980 he's a jewish guy trying to get a kkk outfit like that's the level of comedy with this nazi flag 0.81

00:22:53.820 it's it's a joke right it really was it really was a joke and quite clearly planted but i mean 0.79

00:22:58.780 can you imagine like somebody actually sat down with some friends at a table and came up with

00:23:04.220 that idea just to try and make us all look bad i i mean that's the sickness is there happening in

00:23:10.860 this country right now is there a receipt within government or ottawa city council for a nazi flag

00:23:17.340 for propaganda is what i'd like to know there might be a receipt they might have used tax

00:23:20.860 dollars to pay for it i'm not saying that it might be possible maybe it may be worth getting but i

00:23:27.740 think i think rebel news did a tremendous job they didn't definitively link it but they certainly

00:23:35.500 plausibly connected it it was enough and it was the only journalism being done out there i didn't

00:23:39.660 see a single uh cbc or ctv reporter on the ground even though that was right next door i used to be

00:23:47.500 be able to cover stuff like that with the beta cam which is a giant 35 pound camera and everybody

00:23:51.720 can do it with their phone i did a live from a truck from with glenn beck from the uh us podcast

00:23:59.660 for an hour on my phone i had it was cold right remember how bloody cold it was it's like 30

00:24:05.500 negative 40 at night um i had to get a special battery pack to keep it charged and keep it from

00:24:11.200 getting drained because of the cold but i you know i did that with a phone and the most amazing thing

00:24:16.680 is at the moment when he said well who's out there i said well let's let's see i flicked the

00:24:22.080 truck open and there's a black man and i said sir come on over here what are you doing here

00:24:26.320 he goes i'm here to you know preserve the future of the country for my children and i said are you 0.94

00:24:31.460 a white supremacist and you know that because i just couldn't resist you know yeah um and he was

00:24:36.860 just a guy who was there like anybody like there was people of color there was people giving out

00:24:41.460 bibles there was people making hot dogs i mean it was i mean because we were locked right we were

00:24:47.120 we were we couldn't go out and do anything we couldn't go to winter festivals and any of that

00:24:50.640 stuff so it was there was so much jubilance there and so much love at the thing and the only time i

00:24:57.020 saw the media come out was when they busted it up and they came out with all those rcmp 0.79

00:25:05.860 agents officers and whack people with their butts of their guns and the muzzles of their guns and 0.63

00:25:13.640 all that horrific footage we saw at the inquiry i watched almost all of that inquiry i know that

00:25:18.980 you guys were there personally witnessing it and you both spoke um and alexa got shot

00:25:25.700 remember alexa got shot oh my god i forgot about blank range with a gas yes she got shot with a

00:25:32.500 with a with a with a uh a tear gas cannon on her leg yeah yeah she is one tough cookie you know i

00:25:39.660 was just i just had because of all the stuff i've done i had the privilege of being invited to the

00:25:44.140 the to be a judge at the the inaugural independent press gallery awards oh right yes and unless

00:25:51.520 alexa had done a piece that she entered and she won um down at the border between uh quebec and

00:25:59.700 vermont where she went down there with uh lincoln jay and the two of them did this amazing piece

00:26:05.840 where the um the immigrants are coming over they're being brought over by cartels so if you

00:26:11.780 got a bunch of people from africa there's an african cartel feeding them up there and there's

00:26:15.820 mexicans they're coming up with the mexican russians russian cartel and they put up trail

00:26:21.980 camps that are normally used to detect wildlife and at night the thing becomes a highway of people

00:26:28.800 going between the two countries it was phenomenal road rocks and road yeah it was amazing um i've

00:26:35.740 never seen anything like this in in the mainstream media they've just abdicated the responsibility

00:26:40.580 toward journalism entirely and rebel news and um you know who i love is this this this young guy

00:26:47.320 harrison faulkner this guy should be i mean if he if he wanted to to lose all of his integrity he

00:26:54.660 could go and join the fifth estate because he's he's better than all of them put together um

00:26:59.600 and uh drea humphrey and tamara ugolini i mean these went uh let's not forget sheila gun reed

00:27:07.380 um the women of rebel news are by far the number one journalistic team in canada today there's no

00:27:15.520 doubt about it in my view i agree wow i would agree i think well it was go ahead well i was

00:27:22.440 to say i think alexa showed up at uh one of the hotels that tamara and i were staying at for a

00:27:26.280 trial but she brought something from quebec that might have rhymed with whiskey and it was my head 0.88

00:27:33.240 hurt the next morning is that but it was delicious but that's lexus she's so professional so awesome

00:27:38.520 but after hours of just a all-around fun girl yeah they all are they all are well and i mean

00:27:45.320 you know this to me rodney was what journalism used to be they i think the cbc and ctv used to

00:27:51.800 send people out. The Fifth Estate was an investigative journalism newscast, you know,

00:27:56.920 where these guys had to go out and actually do journalism and investigate. I mean, I've always

00:28:02.040 felt that especially the CBC has been very left leaning for even I knew that as a child. But it

00:28:07.800 was never like it is today. And, you know, we can see it, we see it every day in our politics. The

00:28:13.080 leader of the opposition faces more criticism and questions than the prime minister of the country.

00:28:18.520 So where where along the lines did this change, do you think, where we went from investigative journalists and our mainstream media to pushing propaganda?

00:28:29.520 Well, I mean, day one of COVID really is where it changed in its entirety.

00:28:35.180 And there must have already been some kind of system in place to make a change.

00:28:38.540 It was like that that turnkey in Star Wars where all the the stormtroopers are for good and then they turn for evil, like by one message.

00:28:45.720 Right. You know, in my testimony.

00:28:48.520 that you showed a little bit of there the next very next thing i was going to show was a uh a

00:28:53.540 clip of adrian arsenal who's i think one of the greatest broadcasters that this country's ever

00:28:58.600 produced doing some bs crap propaganda saying what do you do if your dad you know thinks that

00:29:04.880 the the virus came from a lab which i presented that there was ample evidence in that moment that 0.97

00:29:11.500 it did come from a lab and they should have been doing a story like hey this looks like it came

00:29:15.260 from a lab there's five scientific papers that showed they were experimenting with bat coronavirus

00:29:19.920 they were creating a new strain of coronavirus by mixing the SARS-2002 virus with the bat virus 0.81

00:29:28.640 there was a scientific paper showing that there was as an unhygienic lab that they had rats with 0.90

00:29:36.900 humanized lungs on them trying to see how fast it could be going to a human lung and it emerged in

00:29:45.140 that city okay so you know we've got um if this is the bullseye we're real close to it you know

00:29:53.560 on basically day four uh and they did this ridiculous thing about how not to embarrass 0.99

00:29:59.580 your stupid old dad who you know like pick on the classical don't be like everybody's homer simpson 0.94

00:30:05.760 over here and we don't know anything um so that's when i noticed it immediately and then since i 1.00

00:30:12.960 left journalism i've been working in the medical field and i went i've probably attended about 300

00:30:17.000 medical lectures and a lot of these um academies who hold conferences i go to they they train

00:30:22.640 doctors on hydrogen peroxide intravenous and vitamin c intravenous so these are tremendous

00:30:29.460 benefits like for example most disease does not exist in an aerobic environment it needs an

00:30:35.580 anaerobic environment so the aerobic environment is oxygenated so when you put hydrogen peroxide

00:30:40.180 titrated down like that three percent stuff you spray in your kid's ear when they got an earache

00:30:44.420 it's down 100 times lower than that they put it into the veins and it just creates enough oxygen

00:30:48.900 in there to kill cancer parasites all kinds of stuff and the vitamin c was shown in the 60s or

00:30:55.700 maybe even the 50s with linus pauling it was his second nobel prize for this he basically reversed

00:31:01.060 schizophrenia with it these massive doses of vitamin c more than your bowels can tolerate

00:31:05.620 right like your bowels can tolerate probably about five grams a day they were giving anywhere between

00:31:09.940 60 and 100 grams a day so they do it intravenously right so i heard on the cbc radio some guy from a

00:31:17.700 group called the um the center for countering digital hate which to me could only be an

00:31:23.620 anti-semitic you know uh group that were a group stopping anti-semitism right that's kind of what

00:31:30.020 exists in our culture um but he was talking about vitamin c ivs are murder and hydrogen peroxide

00:31:37.140 nebulize this not even ejected but you know on breathing it in is murder and i wrote to the host

00:31:43.380 who i kind of you know i didn't know him but i had a connection easily with between him and other

00:31:47.940 people who trusted me there and said you know these aren't murder these are actually medical

00:31:51.940 treatments and if people are saying they work then maybe you should investigate that um and he

00:31:57.460 ignored me and didn't write back and that's sort of when i realized that they weren't missing the

00:32:01.780 story, they were perpetrating this lie on Canada, which, as I testified last week at the Allison

00:32:10.520 Inquirer, resulted in deaths. And when my friend died, I immediately thought he was murdered by a

00:32:17.820 lie. This is the only way I can describe it. This guy was a parliamentary assistant to a member of

00:32:25.200 parliament. His job was to watch the news all day long. So he was getting fed this garbage and he

00:32:30.300 believed it his boss would have been jagmeet singh who had been getting fed the party line 0.99

00:32:36.460 and parliament was his world he had no reason not to trust it and we were murdered by trust

00:32:42.780 we we we you know um i pointed out there was 488 canadians still are deemed to be killed by the

00:32:50.760 covid19 vaccine on the health canada website determined by the people who signed their death

00:32:56.600 certificate later by a committee cleared no that's non-causal right like i think 484 of the 488

00:33:05.320 deaths were determined non-causal by a committee after the doctor who witnessed it said it was

00:33:11.680 but i also pointed like my friend he didn't his name didn't get on there the carol pierce who

00:33:16.940 died in minute seven waiting for her 15 minute reaction period in the shopper's drug mart in

00:33:22.320 saskatchewan she didn't get on there they determined that was natural causes as if we're

00:33:26.320 to believe that you know the vaccine that she got seven minutes before was irrelevant she was going

00:33:33.500 to die anyway right there and then yeah for no reason um that's what the the coroner has

00:33:40.720 determined um sean hartman the boy who got the vaccine at 17 years old to play hockey

00:33:47.940 his father dan said that they eventually determined that it was from the vaccine but

00:33:54.360 it was never reported so how many weren't reported you know there's the there was a study

00:33:59.640 that was done in harvard that learned doctors like mark trozzi and peter mccullough and robert

00:34:05.240 malone point to that studied that the var system the vaccine adverse event reporting system in the

00:34:12.360 united states is probably under reported by between uh 90 and 99 meaning they only capture

00:34:21.600 one percent to ten percent of the actual reports so those numbers that 488 dead canadians

00:34:31.880 by that accepted study is actually closer to 5,000 to 50,000 Canadians killed by the lie

00:34:43.080 that these were safe and effective. And I proved in my, I believe anyway, in my view, I proved in

00:34:49.680 the Allison inquiry report that I did this 20 minute report that Health Canada showed by data

00:34:55.680 that they were neither safe or effective and they had been warned uh very early on

00:35:02.400 to health canada so and they still proceed it was a narrative for sure and it isn't it's the vaccine

00:35:08.080 deaths too but i mean also the repercussions after i mean i don't know about you but i cannot open my

00:35:13.600 facebook page without seeing an obituary for somebody i mean there is turbo yes disorders

00:35:20.320 right so like i was saying to you today i mean the last report that i saw which was about a month

00:35:25.120 ago was 146 neurological disorders have been confirmed to be related to the covid19 vaccine

00:35:33.200 so who knew there were 146 neurological disorders 41 years old my driver jay weedmark my lease

00:35:39.680 operator in a hotel room in rosetown saskatchewan 4 30 in the morning started coughing blood out of

00:35:44.000 nowhere after receiving his second dose 41 years old i'm so sorry chris that's yeah no it's but

00:35:50.160 but i have his obituary card on my on my desk here and we have memorial stickers for him on

00:35:55.440 all the trucks and you know everybody knows somebody out there that had that lost somebody

00:36:00.880 to this and i just i want to know when people are going to wake up to what's going on in this

00:36:05.680 country what do you see anybody waking up rodney what is it going to take to wake the masses up

00:36:10.000 i do i do i i heard a lot of people i mean this is turning the allison inquiries dredge this up

00:36:16.240 right this is it's losing we're losing it from our memories right that this all happened to us

00:36:21.120 but i heard a lot of people who i knew say you know i got two of those shots and i'll never take

00:36:26.860 another one so their defenses are up against should it happen again so in a way i think that

00:36:35.720 they are waking up but i think the only way to wake up is to turn off all mainstream media

00:36:44.400 just stop listening to the cbc stop watching it stop watching ctv cdb's doing garbage reporting

00:36:51.500 on the oh it's terrible they had this guy timothy caulfield who's a law law professor you know what

00:36:57.520 i uncovered something when i was researching this and i didn't feel totally confident in it

00:37:01.880 there was more research to be done but science up first this thing that i found that was funded by

00:37:07.340 the liberal government to promote vaccine uptake in canada and all these scientists that went on

00:37:12.300 the cbc as independent experts were actually science up first paid consultants so they they

00:37:20.600 they hid that from us right they lied by uh concealment right they lied by distraction

00:37:29.920 and they didn't give it they gave us a half truth around what these people were really doing sure

00:37:34.400 they are a scientist with the toronto general hospital but they're also here because they're

00:37:39.960 paid by science up first which is funded by the federal government to make you take a vaccine

00:37:43.760 they didn't tell us it was a lie by concealment so these guys were out there talking about this

00:37:50.900 stuff and and and and really um i think causing people to die i don't think any of this could

00:37:58.840 have happened without the collaboration and the complicity of the cbc if the c and i may i go for

00:38:07.060 cbc specifically because we pay for it right so we don't pay to have a gun pointed at our head

00:38:13.140 we pay to be told the truth we at least we think we do right but their assignment changed to

00:38:18.740 state broadcaster propaganda and they didn't send us a memo um so i think that that these people

00:38:25.620 are responsible and it's not just the cbc like some you know amorphous entity it is the reporters

00:38:31.940 who reported it the anchors who announced it the writers who wrote it the executives who assigned

00:38:37.940 it and the technicians who pushed the microphone live to let them say it all of them are complicit

00:38:43.300 in the deaths of every canadian who died from this thing well just go back to your testimony

00:38:47.380 there from uh from the allison inquiry in the in the reporter for cbc in winnipeg was her name

00:38:52.100 maryland marianne cloac canadian hero yes although she would never say it she was just doing her

00:39:01.780 job she's like i'm taking a phone call this person's vaccine injured holy smoke this is going on

00:39:05.940 holy i got you know x number of people i'm gonna i'm gonna phone up some experts she finds an

00:39:10.820 expert named stephen pellick in the university of british columbia this man is in the medical school

00:39:17.220 and he teaches pharmaceutical regulation so he understands what it takes to get a any sort of

00:39:24.900 pharmaceutical product like a vaccine regulated in canada and approved and then she finds a guy

00:39:30.100 named dr byron bridle who actually is um assigned to to design and create a covid vaccine made in

00:39:38.580 canada to get us out of this mess two of the top authorities you could find and the cbc winnipeg

00:39:48.100 said oh boy this is going to create vaccine hesitancy which was a new disease we found

00:39:52.500 new psychological disorder that was created that's right yes and she said well i don't care you know

00:39:58.100 i'm telling the truth if people are hesitant after finding out that people are getting injured and

00:40:02.020 died that's their decision right it's called informed consent or informed rejection they

00:40:10.180 sent it down to toronto cbc headquarters who sat on it for over a month and she was saying look

00:40:17.780 this is bloody urgent people are taking this vaccine left right and center there's more

00:40:21.460 injuries there could be deaths these doctors have pointed out that there's a safety signal

00:40:25.380 of something called myocarditis which is an inflammation of the heart pericarditis which

00:40:29.380 is an inflammation of the connective tissue around the heart and the either myocarditis

00:40:36.740 is potentially fatal um and it's definitely seem to be shortening your lifespan um but they let it

00:40:42.740 go for five weeks and then they said yeah you can interview those people but you can't put those

00:40:48.660 those two learned scientists they're waving that red flag who know what they're talking about

00:40:52.740 they're out and you got to put these approved scientists in and she said well that doesn't

00:40:57.960 make sense i'm going to put people on i'm going to break a story and then you're going to want

00:41:01.200 me to put people on and say the story's not true so marianne quit the cbc she said oh you know what

00:41:07.520 i'm close to retirement i'm out wow and that was a key moment because that was in june 2021

00:41:15.080 about three months before the mandates were coming down and if that information had gone on cbc

00:41:21.920 had gone up to the national level and then of course the reporters would have been said hey

00:41:26.480 look for a similar story in your own town match they call it matching the story um it would have

00:41:32.160 been all over we would have had true informed consent and people would have said you know what

00:41:36.260 if they're at that point i think the number was 117 dead on the health canada website

00:41:42.540 so between that day and the 488 what's the differential about 300 dead Canadians responsible

00:41:52.800 by the CBC reporters like Adrian Arso and Ian Hannah Mansing and and Katie Simpson and Rosemary

00:41:58.140 Barton they killed those people as far as I can see I mean maybe they didn't kill them but it is

00:42:02.420 reasonable to surmise that should they have done their job those people may have made a different

00:42:08.600 decision and not be dead well look at kerry sakamoto i mean kerry sakamoto said you know

00:42:14.780 part of the reason she got hers was because the cbc was telling her that it was safe and effective

00:42:19.360 and uh you know she didn't want to kill granny um so i 100 agree with you um guilty of murder

00:42:26.960 by being dishonest or through omission or just telling one side of the story

00:42:31.260 um like i i don't know how you fix it i don't know how cbc or ctv um ever get their credibility

00:42:40.000 back to they don't want the credibility samara they have they're a full-out propagandists

00:42:44.940 yeah um so one of the things i pointed out there in that opening clip is that the way a public

00:42:50.020 broadcaster works is from the bottom up they do a little story and it gets national traction and

00:42:54.060 and the national becomes a national story propaganda works from the top down the state

00:42:58.580 tells them what to say and right down to that small reporter they use the same apparatus

00:43:02.100 but that little reporter is is saying safe and effective and then they had this new language

00:43:08.360 you're an anti-vaxxer you're a conspiracy theorist how did they all come up with this

00:43:11.900 language they must have been assigned this dumb language right and i pointed out later on that 0.98

00:43:17.320 this is very specific language anti-vaxxer is meant to mean you're an unreasonable person 0.99

00:43:23.600 therefore we dismiss you conspiracy theorist is meant to mean you're delusional you have a mental 0.91

00:43:28.800 illness therefore we dismiss you and misinformation on social media is meant to mean you're mischievous 0.50

00:43:36.000 and therefore we dismiss you so nobody wants to be called these things so they self-censor

00:43:44.160 they don't they don't come forward it only took you know half a dozen doctors losing

00:43:48.080 their medical license for the rest of them to shut up they sacrificed them quite publicly

00:43:53.600 and that's what propaganda does it supplants itself as the arbiter of truth in your life

00:44:00.460 so i no longer look and make my own decisions i listen to them because there's nobody else around

00:44:07.100 saying any different why would they yeah exactly well look at what they've done with marina it's

00:44:12.900 the same in society right now they've persecuted us to the full extent of the law to send a message

00:44:17.060 to everybody else do not do what they did to take a stand against your government

00:44:21.020 oh i told tamara this this afternoon i've been driving with a friend of mine she goes well you

00:44:25.920 know that tamara leach she broke her parole well do you know what actually happened because i know

00:44:31.080 this person and i know what happened is that she actually went to a a judge and said i don't want

00:44:36.880 to break my parole here so uh you know this is what i want to do and they said well you know you

00:44:42.160 can do it and then somebody took a picture cropped out the lawyer which was required for her to be

00:44:47.420 there which she was there with put it on social media and then there was an all points bullet and

00:44:52.520 the whole thing was a farce um but the message got out to a lot of people well you know she

00:44:58.720 broke her parole in addition to what she did down there and all that stuff and and they just create

00:45:04.760 this chatter and that there's no truth in it so what the cbc is doing now quite blatantly

00:45:13.160 is it's abandoned the truth and it's just saying trust us so they started with this trusted news

00:45:19.700 initiative and now they have this the new the head they had somebody used to be um like the

00:45:25.740 chief journalist i think it used to be called but now it's called the um the head of journalistic

00:45:31.900 standards that was what the name was during covid and now it's journalistic standards and public

00:45:38.480 trust so trust is right in there let me give you a call let me let me throw a

00:45:43.760 line at you trust me trust me okay that's what you're doing now just tell

00:45:51.240 the truth and I'll trust you but trust me come on what do you you don't trust

00:45:54.480 me so that's what they never talk about the truth you're right they never talk

00:45:58.640 about truth they just talk about trust which are two totally different things

00:46:02.960 they were they were distorting Tamara's trial day today on I just watched a clip

00:46:08.060 of cbc talking about how it was all about tamara leach wanted to go see the white house it wasn't

00:46:13.180 nothing to do with the white house but they they put that in their news clip so people

00:46:17.420 get that right and a caribbean cruise remember that but it had nothing to do with the caribbean

00:46:22.380 cruise for crying out loud no they they they have did any of them phone you tamara to ask

00:46:29.740 not actually no that actually that's not true we do have uh that that isn't true um one of the cbc

00:46:37.100 people that chris and i are actually get along with and i think has been as fair as he can be

00:46:43.340 uh under the circumstances with who he works for and he tries to be very fair um actually

00:46:48.540 he had gone to the cbc uh when he sort of saw he met chris and i and he thought there's more to

00:46:54.860 these people um and he'd gone to them and pitched a documentary and um they did come out and shoot 0.88

00:47:02.300 some and then they shut him down they also uh cbc also gave this guy shit because he was reporting 0.92

00:47:09.660 on our trial and he was reporting on how professionally i was dressed and how nice i 0.97

00:47:15.420 looked and the clothes i was wearing and then when zexy lee came in to testify he reported that she

00:47:20.780 was wearing like a midriff shirt and flowy pants and uggs and and they censored him censured him

00:47:26.860 for that for not making me look bad and making her look bad so anyways to answer your question

00:47:33.200 yes um i did was reached out to early this morning not for a comment on what happened

00:47:37.660 just for confirmation on court time and the courtroom number though you know when i worked

00:47:44.560 at cbc there was you the it's called a get interview you you mean you got the right person

00:47:52.000 you put them on right yeah you would have been the guest right on this day you would have been

00:47:57.800 the guest the judge isn't going to do an interview the crown might maybe not your defense lawyer

00:48:02.560 maybe instead of you but the get interview would have been tamara leach well you know who got that 0.70

00:48:07.920 rodney alexa lavois oh yeah one step behind like every time that alexa lavois

00:48:15.520 yeah she got a hold of me i was on my way back from brandon and so we did we did it yeah but it

00:48:22.420 was alexa in my view uh you know it's hard to say the best you know but i think she's the best

00:48:28.580 journalist canada has right now but i don't want to do any disrespect for her her colleagues because

00:48:33.060 drea humphrey is a genius and tamara yulini is unbelievably good investigative reporter

00:48:37.860 Sheila Gunn-Reed is just absolutely fantastic and a mentor to all of them.

00:48:44.200 This is journalism today.

00:48:46.940 This is what we got.

00:48:48.720 And I suppose the good news, Chris and Tamara, is nobody watches the CBC anymore.

00:48:55.280 That's true.

00:48:56.880 Somebody did a poll that I saw that said, if you look at the population of a city like Toronto,

00:49:02.060 something like 3% are getting their news from the CBC.

00:49:05.380 you know there was a guy who used to be there i think i can't remember he might have been their

00:49:10.740 entertainment report he's a great guy named paul riley i see him on my social feed now he's a

00:49:15.220 lawyer and he's doing family counseling and stuff now but i remember him we were sitting around for

00:49:20.840 beers afterwards and he was the cbc reporter for the local news in toronto there's four stations

00:49:26.000 in toronto and he goes you know i'm just not used to being fourth at anything you know

00:49:30.020 back then they were they were the least viewed show back when they were actually doing journalism

00:49:37.520 they were just were kind of stiff and not that good at it not that exciting but now people just

00:49:43.580 abandon it and it's a joke the budget keeps going up when when the staff numbers are going down and

00:49:50.080 the quality of the programming is going down but you know why that budget just keep going up because

00:49:55.060 they need it because it is the propaganda apparatus of the sitting government yes

00:50:01.020 watch it oh did i ever tell you the story rodney of my my father calling me during convoy

00:50:07.200 he phoned me and he said what the hell are you guys doing and i kind of went i was walking

00:50:11.900 around downtown ottawa and i'm like looking at people giving hugs and feeding people and you

00:50:16.000 know i'm like yeah that's right yeah that's right that's painted red and white and black but

00:50:23.380 he said that he's like what the hell are you guys doing there like i'm watching the news right now

00:50:29.000 and it's not what you're saying and then as of that day they my parents turned the news off they

00:50:34.000 don't watch it anymore because of that because they've seen exactly what it was for what it is

00:50:38.580 yeah i witnessed it firsthand i was shocked i was when i saw that i thought wow we're all free

00:50:47.520 look at this these truckers came there was more than a handful but there was a hundred times

00:50:54.880 a thousand times more just average folks right i mean that was evidenced by the millions that

00:51:00.640 people gave 50 bucks at a time and this cbc says it was the kremlin who did it that's right oh

00:51:08.880 remember that tamara tamara's going we got big money where's the kremlin i don't see no kidding

00:51:13.920 I could and you know and she never that was never retracted as far to the best of my knowledge she never went she never went I read that she did but she instead of being fired she was promoted and made the host of As It Happens the flagship radio show of CBC currently I think she's still the host of As It Happens Nils Koxel is the one who fabricated that lie told it to Canada.

00:51:41.720 as far as i can see with the intention of misleading canadians to think that there was

00:51:48.360 something nefarious and negative as opposed to something canadian and from the ground up a

00:51:55.420 basically a legitimate labor protest that was supported by millions of canadians and she lied 1.00

00:52:05.040 or got it she can decide gross incompetence and stupidity and inability to be a journalist or 1.00

00:52:11.580 liar stand on one of those that either one of them is true right has to be well for for her to 0.99

00:52:16.740 even report that with a straight face and i and i think you can tell because as she's saying it she

00:52:21.140 starts stumbling over her words right but i mean how could you like how would chris and i be

00:52:26.840 affiliated with russians like we were both born and raised in rural saskatchewan in the middle

00:52:31.880 of nowhere like it's preposterous absolutely preposterous i remember um justin laying around

00:52:39.640 the time i believe it was the nazi flag justin ling is a cbc freelancer who emerged during

00:52:46.280 covet just for your yeah yeah yeah exactly and he posted a picture of a anti-semitic flyer wasn't it

00:52:53.960 chris um that and he said that somebody had found this on the ground in ottawa but it turns out that

00:52:59.400 photo was taken in florida two weeks previous to that so that was the canadian anti-hate network

00:53:04.680 and justin lang who is at the toronto star i believe at that point um so there was just so

00:53:10.040 many lies and so much misinformation and like you said like it would have taken them longer to walk

00:53:15.960 to their cars that's what you said in unacceptable it would have taken the cbc longer to walk to their

00:53:20.840 cars in their parking lot than it would have been for them to go down and and talk to canadians that

00:53:27.240 were on the street yes last week at the allison inquiry they didn't show up and yeah if you walked 0.99

00:53:33.560 out the the doors of that parliamentary committee building you were looking at the cvc somebody

00:53:39.280 measured it was 33 steps wow to get to the allison inquiry they didn't come because they were on 0.52

00:53:46.300 trial let's face it yeah it caused it it was impossible without them the vaccine rollout was

00:53:52.960 impossible without them the only way that vaccine rollout would have been possible is if covid were

00:53:57.720 actually fatal to everyone and the vaccines actually worked and if that was the case we'd

00:54:02.780 been beaten down doors but it was impossible without the broadcasting apparatus of the cbc

00:54:11.000 and its complicity with liberal policy to roll it out despite the growing evidence on the health

00:54:19.160 canada's website that it was um no nowhere near safe and nowhere near effective after they said

00:54:26.780 okay two doses three doses four doses every six months um so they had to do it so now it's hard

00:54:34.700 to wipe the egg off your face when you've got blood on your hands really they had they can't

00:54:40.460 possibly do that they that's why they you know all those people who plastered their face flyers on

00:54:47.480 the front of the cbc entrance couldn't get an interview because if they did they'd say you know

00:54:52.820 i trusted you right oh you're an anti-vaxxer actually i'm double vaccinated this is the

00:54:57.860 problem i have here right you're a conspiracy theory well i have no conspiracy i'm just sick

00:55:02.340 you know that's all i'm saying right it's misinformation well here i am in a wheelchair

00:55:06.020 so they had no way to bully them so they couldn't have interviewed them and they would have had to

00:55:12.080 admit or listen to somebody saying you caused this you did it to us and i mean these people

00:55:19.320 are the reporters who reported it anybody who used the word anti-vaxxer on the cbc

00:55:27.640 conspiracy theorists or misinformation is probably as guilty of something as close to

00:55:34.160 criminal negligence causing death criminal negligence causing injure uh intentionally

00:55:39.220 leading something someone into harm's way breach of trust these are criminal offenses

00:55:44.400 and i think they're worthy of investigation and yet me and chris are serving an 18-month

00:55:50.720 house arrest sentence i mean that's a welcome to canadian justice you know what i mean it's um

00:55:56.560 it's it's insane where do we go next rodney like the allison inquiry was obviously success we had

00:56:02.600 all those people give their stories um and i think now we've got some records in government now of

00:56:08.400 what transpired in these people's stories but does it die there i wanted to say it was something to

00:56:13.520 keep the conversation going where does it go now you know people said the same thing about the

00:56:18.180 national citizens inquiry so what where does it go this thing was massive it was 25 days there

00:56:23.140 was hundreds of people um my testimony alone went like five or six million views across worldwide

00:56:29.160 um i think we have to just keep talking about it i mean what the two of you are doing are talking

00:56:34.860 about it and we have to bring credibility to it and the more people ultimately who say no

00:56:39.600 to totalitarian behavior which propaganda and state broadcasting is totalitarian behavior

00:56:46.040 yep then we are the people you know i lived in china which has a very strict totalitarian

00:56:52.980 government people still had families they still partied and drank booze they still had businesses

00:56:59.680 they still took the bus to work you can still live your life you know and then look what

00:57:05.080 happened in Tiananmen Square. That was a tipping point, right? I was in China about four months

00:57:10.980 before that. There were little student protests coming here and there. And then they went and

00:57:15.660 they sat in Tiananmen Square. So the government brought the tanks in and executed anywhere between

00:57:24.360 500, 1,000, we don't know how many people, to end it. And I tell you, Tamara and Chris,

00:57:31.140 when i saw the guns coming down on the people i mean they didn't shoot anybody tear gas

00:57:38.580 rubber bullets the gun rubber bullets i had deja vu i said this is tiananmen square

00:57:45.700 all over again canadian style you know a little more friendly a little more weak kind of small

00:57:51.140 yeah but same totalitarian tactic military dispatched by the federal government to shut

00:58:00.340 people up who are in disagreement with the government policy and i think that we're

00:58:06.420 creeping in that direction a lot faster than a lot of people realize um so we have to wake up

00:58:13.460 and understand these things so that we can say no this is how we're going to live our lives and

00:58:18.580 it's also important for people not to get too dejected by it all you know it's easy to get

00:58:25.700 overwhelmed by it and say you know this is you know let's like you what's going to happen next

00:58:30.660 and are they going to bring drones are they going to kill us all and everything well i don't know

00:58:33.620 we're all going to die one day right so you got to live your life let me look at the two of you

00:58:38.820 in house arrest and smiles on your faces by the way christian barber you look fantastic you're 0.57

00:58:43.620 You're looking good. You're looking good. Yeah. And we just have to remember that Canada is not

00:58:53.860 Mark Carney. Canada is you and me and us and our families and our businesses and the economy that

00:58:59.640 we create. And this distraction about Trump, like, really? Like, could you not? Oh, the clown. I

00:59:06.700 mean, who doesn't dislike that guy? Even if you don't disagree with him, even if you think that

00:59:10.920 Meg is not a bad idea. Even if you hate the Democrats, Trump is a bombastic lunatic, right? 0.99

00:59:15.120 It's easy to get the majority of people to hate that guy. So, you know, that's what he's doing. 0.98

00:59:20.900 It's so clear that that's what he's doing. And it's difficult to people for people to think their way through that, because what were you saying this afternoon, Tamara?

00:59:30.420 It's it gives it gives them something to hate. And then they feel that's their unification. Right.

00:59:35.380 they feel unified in that but we have to remember that we need our families to feel unified with

00:59:41.100 and we need ourselves and our jobs and our and our neighbors and if we just keep doing that

00:59:46.340 then we're kind of impervious

00:59:49.320 well i think the best revenge is just to keep living our lives so it's really all we can do

00:59:56.040 you know i mean i i came out to manitoba not knowing what this this uh ruling was going to be

01:00:01.320 if i was going to have to turn around and go back home like but i thought i just feel like

01:00:07.320 as long as we're chris and i are the same people at the end of this as we were at the beginning

01:00:12.120 obviously we'll be a little bit changed a little bit wiser i would say um

01:00:17.960 for sure when it comes to the media because when i like i said i grew up on the ctv and the cbc and

01:00:23.480 when i got there you know what a disappointment for me um because and i remember even like

01:00:29.160 thinking i remember thinking that the ctv was so much more glossy and sophisticated than the cbc

01:00:34.840 even right like just watching the newscasts because they were always on tv and uh it was

01:00:40.520 it was a massive disappointment because i felt like what we were doing at one time in canadian

01:00:46.600 history would have been something that they would have maybe not gotten behind but they would have

01:00:51.800 at least you know like you said come out and talk to us or tried to get both sides of the story

01:00:56.040 instead of just just feeding a narrative and i mean i know i'm a good person i know chris barber

01:01:02.040 is a good person but to see some of the stuff that these people write about us is you know

01:01:06.600 we're just everyday canadian citizens that were joined by hundreds of thousands of other everyday

01:01:12.920 canadian citizens there was nothing special about any of us but it was when we all came together

01:01:18.360 you know and chris and i will always say that the freedom convoy wasn't the chris barber show or the

01:01:22.280 the Tamara Leach show, or even the Pat King show,

01:01:24.580 the Freedom Convoy was a point in time when Canadians came together.

01:01:29.560 Because if the Canadians wouldn't have supported us,

01:01:31.980 it would have just been a bunch of trucks driving to Ottawa,

01:01:34.540 sitting there for a few days, and then turning around and going home.

01:01:37.960 And you've just put your finger on what news judgment is.

01:01:41.360 So when I worked in the news business, news judgment was,

01:01:45.260 what's the singular most interesting thing about this story that we can tell?

01:01:48.700 that there's a bunch of truck drivers who decided to go to ottawa to say no to the vaccine mandate

01:01:54.540 there's a bunch of other truck drivers that's no more interesting than a bunch of nurses a

01:01:59.100 bunch of politicians a bunch of anybody but the fact that they raised 22 million dollars in four

01:02:04.660 weeks 50 bucks at a time that's the news story okay they've tapped into the psyche of canada

01:02:12.820 who have had enough they don't want any more and they don't know what to do so they all bought a

01:02:18.220 lunch for a truck driver and we scared the shit out of the federal government which was probably 0.90

01:02:26.080 not your intention it was to know to discuss and negotiate but you know we had a scared little cat 0.81

01:02:32.540 in the in parliament at the time at the head who flew off to somewhere as you know he imagined you

01:02:38.400 were coming for him right like he imagined he's more important than he was um it was just all

01:02:44.120 ridiculous and and and you're right they should have been down there talking to you because then 0.80

01:02:48.880 they would have been able to tell canada they're actually wrong these people aren't nazis they just 0.98

01:02:55.320 don't want to be told what to do you know sir could we have our freedoms back you know we've

01:03:01.300 been locked in our homes uh mothers were dying alone grandparents were being neglected left to

01:03:07.040 die in long-term care facilities kids mental health was going through the roof they were they

01:03:12.260 were you know they missed out on their education think about what think about what that period of

01:03:17.620 time is going to do to children uh going forward but live through that and i know there's all types

01:03:22.500 of anxieties now in kids um they've missed out basically on just about two full years of education

01:03:29.460 you know but they they're still going to all get pushed through and i mean yeah it was uh

01:03:34.980 it was a dark time and i have absolutely zero regrets uh for what we did i think it needed

01:03:40.020 to be done and you know this if this is the outcome well so be it i think history will be kind

01:03:46.020 and to chris and myself and everybody else that was there but also you know as the fauci diaries

01:03:51.460 are coming out and the information about uh dr fau or i don't even call him a doctor anymore

01:03:55.940 anthony fauci the stuff that came out at the national citizens inquiry the stuff that just

01:04:00.420 came out at the allison inquiry tells me that we are on the right side of history

01:04:05.460 and there is no jail cell that they could ever put me in that would ever make me think otherwise

01:04:10.920 and I'm proud of what we did I'm proud of how Canadians behaved you know like it was peaceful

01:04:16.960 it was peaceful the streets were never cleaner there was no overdose deaths crime went down

01:04:23.040 you know in the city of Ottawa and if you've been to Ottawa lately Rodney you'll see the state that

01:04:28.920 it's in it's uh it's turning into a cesspool of just drugs and the homelessness and um and these

01:04:35.820 guys aren't getting any help but you will notice at the senate of course they've put up a fence

01:04:40.220 there's no fences everywhere else but the senators when they leave their building don't want to have

01:04:44.500 to step over the bodies of the drug addicts and the homeless so they get a nice little fence

01:04:49.420 around the front of their building i watched a lady overdose on the street outside my hotel room 0.99

01:04:55.180 during our sentencing like she was trying to sell it to pass her buyers i watched her it was just

01:05:00.780 fantastic fascinated by watching it and then she does the needle in her arm and and literally

01:05:06.460 overdoses an ambulance came and picked her up minutes later right there right in children

01:05:12.740 walking by this is our nation's capital but hey chris and tamara you know brought a bunch of people

01:05:18.120 to ottawa with them and they should spend 18 months in house arrest well i'm sorry for what

01:05:23.660 happened to you tamara with the prison uh stints that you did particularly the a lot of people i

01:05:29.980 don't think know that um you spent 19 days in solitary confinement normally reserved for

01:05:35.420 aggressive and dangerous people um but it's like you say history often celebrates people who

01:05:43.580 spend time in prison that's usually how it goes eventually gandhi martin luther king malcolm

01:05:50.940 these people are known to be the ones who brought social movements

01:05:56.240 and all of them challenged what was happening,

01:06:00.160 what the government was doing.

01:06:02.620 And that people can't see that live time,

01:06:06.400 that that's what's happening is unfortunate.

01:06:09.940 A lot of people do,

01:06:11.600 but I'm hoping that what it does is encourage people to have hope

01:06:17.720 for you and for chris and for the people at the allison inquiry who are coming forward i mean

01:06:23.840 god bless dean allison yeah the mp who started that thing and put his name behind it um sean

01:06:30.760 and theresa buckley who organized the whole thing at herculean effort all the people who came to

01:06:37.200 speak there was a seek man i don't know if you saw him a tremendously athletic and erudite fellow

01:06:45.320 like the pictures of him swinging a golf club i mean he looked like he'd be on the cover of golf

01:06:50.100 magazine and there he sits now for the rest of his life in a wheelchair with one bag feeding him and

01:06:54.860 one bag draining him i have to point out this chris to your point about what's happening now

01:07:01.160 global news television did that story they featured him they featured another guy who only

01:07:08.540 got sick on his fourth dose clearly not an anti-vaxxer eager vaxxer we could call him

01:07:12.500 yeah um they did a shoulder-to-shoulder interview with sean buckley uh the lawyer who was doing the

01:07:18.140 questioning and dean allison the mp who ran the thing and then they said you know we tried to

01:07:23.520 interview health canada but they just said the vaccines are safe and effective which you need

01:07:27.160 to do in any journalism piece like a six o'clock news it was a two minute and 20 second piece which

01:07:33.280 is long by current standards they uh they put the health canada statement in there which

01:07:38.720 in the context of that story seemed ridiculous to a straight thinking person it was probably the

01:07:45.900 first piece i've seen that in five years too late that dealt with the covid story

01:07:53.220 fairly within the context of what's fair in in six o'clock news and that was on global tv

01:07:59.620 so it might you know whoever the journalist was it was a woman i'm sorry i can't remember her name

01:08:04.960 because i'd love to celebrate her um she may have she may be fired she may have you know never got

01:08:10.020 another story on the air but she squeaked one through you know um yeah joe warmington from

01:08:15.420 the toronto sun covered every day of that thing and um he squeaked a couple more through he did

01:08:21.220 his job you know he believed this is a guy who just you know he's his own animal and within the

01:08:27.500 the the um the machine that is the toronto sun he's um you know he wears a you know he's kind

01:08:33.840 of like uh menzies he's where's that where's a bowler fedora and he he calls himself the

01:08:40.240 scrawler he used to call himself the night crawler um so he's got a he's got a uh an image you know

01:08:45.860 and a persona um and he's covering the story he's doing it um so there's a few of them who are

01:08:53.120 standing up and doing their job and you know hats off to global news for covering that story fairly

01:08:58.320 because ctv didn't cover it fairly and cbc didn't cover it at all no not even at all and like you

01:09:04.900 said they were literally like just across the street literally across and you know what so

01:09:10.000 i met joe warmington at that independent independent press gallery awards a couple

01:09:14.980 of weeks ago they gave him a lifetime achievement award which was amazing and so he he reported on

01:09:21.420 my testimony which ripped pretty heavily into the cbc um i mean you could see it that way to

01:09:28.020 it was just simply giving a fair and balanced uh truthful investigative report on what the cbc did

01:09:33.020 um and he phoned the cbc and said can you give us your comment on mr palmer's testimony

01:09:39.800 and the cbc put up chuck thompson the same pr spokesman who defended not firing jean gomeshi

01:09:49.780 for the multiple sexual harassment claims prior to him being tried for um sexual assault right uh

01:09:57.360 who simply said we did excellent reporting and people are allowed to interpret it

01:10:02.640 however they want, but at least he's phoning them and nudging them.

01:10:06.760 Right.

01:10:07.600 And saying, you should see this because he's talking about you guys.

01:10:11.580 Yeah.

01:10:12.840 So there's, there's little, there's little cracks. There's little,

01:10:15.680 there's people still trying people who still do the right thing. Um,

01:10:20.080 you know, ultimately we've got that 30% of the population that can't be

01:10:25.600 hypnotized represented on this screen we've got the 30 who are easily hypnotized the ones that go

01:10:32.260 to those hypnotic shows and cluck like chickens on the stage and then you've got 40 in the middle

01:10:37.400 that are swayable so it's that movable middle we call it that hopefully we can get them to realize

01:10:44.720 that listening to the six o'clock news may be hazardous to your health it's the 40 that's an

01:10:51.120 strategy they just want to be left alone right that 40 but when they finally have enough and

01:10:58.040 stand and i believe we touched the nerve with that some of those 40 in february 2022 those are

01:11:04.380 the people that just kind of were just happy existing and then all of a sudden they just

01:11:07.920 felt overwhelmed with the mandates and the constant government pressure and grandma being locked up in

01:11:13.520 a care home or that you know we resonated with that group and those are the people that came

01:11:18.220 forward and made that go fund me what it was and the give send go what it was and uh still stand

01:11:23.460 there now i the fact that the government froze so many people's bank accounts you know a waitress

01:11:29.280 from from what was it uh armstrong bc sycamore somewhere in there salmon arm bc a waitress 25

01:11:36.180 donated and lost her bank accounts a single mother and that's what the canadian government

01:11:40.640 did to a canadian citizen for merely donating to a cause i want i want accountability from this

01:11:46.560 government one of these days it's coming and i will i won't come here i won't quit until we get

01:11:50.860 it that's right god bless you both for doing this show and for continuing to speak out to the people

01:11:58.680 about the truth i mean here you are um organized something that was supported by millions of

01:12:04.600 canadians and you've got to be under house arrest for doing that for not for what you did as much

01:12:11.100 for all the people that said yes we agree yeah well i mean thank you for the thank you for uh

01:12:19.040 the idea to name the show i mean we came back and i think we started it within a couple of weeks

01:12:24.440 hey chris after we got back from our sentencing yes what episode uh 46 this is episode 46 yeah

01:12:33.200 so it's almost a year ago really therapeutic and you know i think um like we just are so blessed

01:12:42.320 that we have a platform where we can you know share these stories share stories like yours

01:12:46.980 we dedicate one episode every month to the vaccine injured so we can help them with their stories we

01:12:52.260 get doctors on regularly that you know the ones that you were talking about that have been

01:12:56.500 cancelled and smeared and completely vilified i mean these are the stories that uh you know we

01:13:01.380 want canadians to hear and i i know i feel just so blessed that we have a little platform that

01:13:07.460 that we are allowed that we can do that with so so thank you for thank you for the push

01:13:12.980 well you know what that was that was taking a liability and turning it into an asset

01:13:18.660 i said they just had they've handed you a sentence they've also handed you a pulpit

01:13:23.140 so just call it what it is house arrest here we are and thank god bless that there's only 19 days

01:13:30.740 left that's right do not breathe do not breach yeah that's right yeah no kidding and i think

01:13:39.100 after that it's going to be it'll be curfew but like i said at the beginning of the show rodney

01:13:43.200 at 54 years old almost i don't feel like having to be in my house at 10 o'clock at night is exactly

01:13:48.120 a punishment if you know what i mean it's been doable and then it was worth it you know for

01:13:53.960 everyone that was protesting in ottawa who was honking a horn or was doing something

01:13:57.720 you know mischievous some of us took it on the chin for those people and i think the government

01:14:04.520 picked on probably the strongest ones out of the group because we were able to handle it and they

01:14:08.500 you know some of the other yeah we were we were some of the ones that we could withstand what the

01:14:14.140 government was throwing at us and obviously that's why we're still here to this day and we're still

01:14:17.460 speaking out about it and they can't hurt us so yeah that's right exactly there's nothing more

01:14:22.780 that we can do that's excellent bernie i don't want to keep you too much longer i know it's very

01:14:26.080 late it's getting late out there for you and i know you're a busy guy and i just want to say

01:14:30.240 thank you so much for making the time uh to join us tonight it is a huge honor for me and not at

01:14:35.920 all intimidating to be interviewing uh the one and only rodney palmer and rodney palmer thank you

01:14:44.240 both for doing what you've done for all the people of canada well thank you thank you thanks for

01:14:50.080 joining us and we'll talk to you again very soon have a wonderful evening i'll talk to you in 19

01:14:54.960 days oh great yeah great stream that was thank you Peter there's a couple of super chats I wanted to

01:15:17.040 read we've got Rick coming in with a $2 super chat says you all look fantastic thank you very

01:15:22.320 much rick for that and uh peter witten of course five dollars super chat thank you to rodney

01:15:28.400 and marianne cloac for being perhaps the last authentic and honest journalists that have worked

01:15:34.080 for the cbc i would agree with that for sure all right was that rick yemen like rick ice road

01:15:42.400 checker rick that did the super job i'm trying to find i don't know what's right there i'm not sure

01:15:48.160 ice road truckers ice road truckers rick right there good to see you buddy if you ever watch

01:15:54.240 the canadian version of or the canadian ice road truckers that's ricky was uh yeah pretty cool that

01:15:58.920 i i'm actually following and he's following me so it's an honor two truckers peter also says

01:16:05.100 happy birthday to mayor rodney palmer is an amazing journalist and a true patriot his testimony at

01:16:09.840 the nci and now at the allison inquiry was riveting yes i 100 agree every canadian should watch both

01:16:17.120 uh saskatchewan mother says you are one amazing human and i wish you would start a media company

01:16:22.080 because i would buy stocks and apply for a job in the mail room even so there you go rodney

01:16:26.520 um i think he needs to be uh become the president of the cbc actually don't you think that would be

01:16:31.740 great yes man he could turn some things around larry hansen says i've seen trailers of unacceptable

01:16:36.620 but where do i get the full documentary oh that's easy um well you know unacceptable doc.ca is where

01:16:45.840 you can find it i believe there's some streaming services you can see it go to the unacceptable

01:16:50.540 doc.ca website and you'll be able to find it there you can purchase the cd um man that was

01:16:56.660 some of the best things that i've done after convoy was go around with ben and uh and burn

01:17:01.940 and a few other people and play the premieres of unacceptable in theaters around the country and

01:17:07.300 it was so awesome to see and meet so many people and i think i've watched it about 14 or 15 times

01:17:12.960 now i can i should literally watch it again because it's that powerful so i encourage everybody to go

01:17:17.840 watch unacceptable rodney's one of the main people in it he gives quite the testimony burn buchert

01:17:23.280 tamara's got a piece in there not so much chris barber because chris barber listened to his

01:17:27.920 lawyer when he said go home and shut your mouth and then afterwards oh and i remember doing that

01:17:35.440 interview when ben came to the house too and i was i was afraid like i was you know i just told

01:17:40.640 the truth which is all i can do but i remember just thinking boy you know i i don't know if this

01:17:44.800 is going to come back and bite me or not um if you all want to make a recommendation of somebody

01:17:50.800 that you'd like to see on the show uh send us some love send us some hate mail we accept that

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01:18:26.180 a 10 discount on your coffee and also of course to ben and everyone at the tallow truth uh we'll

01:18:32.420 be back next week i think chris and i are just going to do a round table chat with just the two

01:18:36.620 of us i mean it's been quite a busy few weeks so um but i see dr shoemaker was in the chat tonight

01:18:42.040 and i will be reaching out to him as i would love to get him on the show candace of course was back

01:18:46.140 in there so we're going to get that organized um it's going to be a busy october so uh any last

01:18:51.540 words chris before we sign off everybody have an amazing weekend and or a week and weekend and

01:18:56.620 we will look forward to seeing everybody back here on thursday again i appreciate all the support

01:19:01.040 out here this is a heck of a room full of people here tonight so uh thank you everyone for joining

01:19:04.960 us yeah and we absolutely love you guys and thank you so much for your support keep your

01:19:09.920 eye on the prize and we will see you next thursday take care

House Arrest - September 18, 2026

Ep. 46 Rodney Palmer

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