House Arrest - November 08, 2026


Ep. 54 Csaba Vizi

Ep. 53 Kevin Street

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00:00:00 Okay guys, when is enough enough? January 23rd. I say we start a slow roll across Canada.
00:00:08 well hello everyone and welcome to episode 54 of house arrest i am your co-host uh tamara leach
00:00:32 and we have of course big red mr chris barber how's it going out there chris well it's good
00:00:38 to see everybody tonight so my apologies for last week and uh not being here tamara you held down
00:00:42 the fort extremely well except for none of my stuff was streaming to the the stream yard here
00:00:48 so i apologize for that little family mercy that came up and i needed to tend to some stuff at home
00:00:53 and thank you for taking that last week no problem at all yeah mine uh just uh mine just i just got
00:01:01 notification that it's not going to my facebook but that's no big deal i don't have any friends
00:01:06 you have all the friends on facebook you know what we are live in red deer alberta right now
00:01:13 at the at the agritrade uh farm show and i gotta tell you it's been a busy last couple days here
00:01:18 walking around the grounds meeting so many amazing people i've met so many supporters here i don't
00:01:24 think i can make it 20 feet without having a conversation with somebody again who is on our
00:01:28 side so i just wanted to make sure i thank everyone for reaching out in the last few days
00:01:33 here it's been absolutely amazing of course i'm actually working right now i was paid to come here
00:01:38 with my my son and i's uh 1965 versatile g100 which is the prototype first versatile ever built
00:01:44 it is now parked and displayed in front of the 60th anniversary edition 620 quad track brand
00:01:51 new versatile and uh the it's been an amazing week a lot of people have been coming through the booth
00:01:56 of course i'm not a paid spokesman for versatile to be at the booth so i encourage everybody to
00:02:01 come by and check out the old tractor i am walking around the grounds visiting with customers and
00:02:04 meeting different people so it's it's been a good experience and i'm very thankful for that
00:02:08 we will be excellent yeah amazing yeah i'm sure everyone there is happy to see you and
00:02:14 we were just talking before the show started so um i had applied for an exemption to go to
00:02:19 vancouver for the day to attend a rebel news live event there and they denied it um and and i didn't
00:02:25 even think about it but there you are you know across the out of your jurisdiction and uh in
00:02:31 alberta so anyways um make it make sense they are uh i got word last week that they're quietly
00:02:38 sneaking around or not sneaking around but they're questioning some of my work related activities in
00:02:43 the last year uh i'm with the upcoming appeals i'm kind of wondering if that's not what they're
00:02:47 going to try and pull in december when they when they do their their whatever the heck they do
00:02:52 most people know they're reapplying for they're appealing to marina's uh convictions obviously
00:02:59 for uh our sentencing i guess and for intimidation on that acquittal that we got so
00:03:05 probation officer was pretty good she said that we have done everything to the letter of the law
00:03:09 we have followed everything properly everything's been noted and i've been very diligent about where
00:03:14 i am and where i let them know i'm going and this week i'll be heading down to north dakota for a
00:03:19 loads so make it make sense doesn't make any sense why are they so scared of a little miss
00:03:24 tamara you're a little bit oh no that's because i'm very intimidating um and speaking of that i
00:03:30 think we've talked about this before too but yes um the appeals process is going to start right
00:03:34 about the time that you are you complete your sentence mine will be done on january the 21st
00:03:38 i've got 71 days and six hours to go but who's counting and um yeah and then we may be starting
00:03:46 this all over again is to the best of my knowledge the crown still wants me in jail for seven and you
00:03:52 in jail for eight isn't that something hey while there's so many crimes in this country that are
00:03:58 taking you know higher priority what did what did you do for the entire protest in ottawa for the
00:04:03 most peaceful protest in canada's history i worked with law enforcement for the entire time we could
00:04:09 have been a powder keg if we wanted to but yet we chose to spend our time working with law enforcement
00:04:13 but making sure everybody remained peaceful and doing the constitutional,
00:04:17 the charter right of, you know, protesting.
00:04:19 It's amazing how the government can just try and shut you up and they continue
00:04:23 to lawfare you almost five years later.
00:04:26 Lawfare be harder, daddy.
00:04:30 You're exactly right. And you know what? The thing is, you just nailed it, Chris.
00:04:34 I mean, not that we ever had any intentions of doing anything, but I mean,
00:04:38 if we had wanted to, we could have rolled right over there.
00:04:41 those guys were outnumbered they were outmatched um everything that they did was was absolutely the
00:04:48 wrong move as far as i'm concerned i mean we were profiled we were profiled by the canadian
00:04:53 intelligence services and the rcmp and literally all they ever had to do was like call us ask us
00:04:59 some questions instead we were stuck on uh the ideologically motivated violent extremist list
00:05:06 I mean, but, you know, here we are, as we've talked about before, serving our sentence for a little old mischief.
00:05:12 Meanwhile, the government of Canada, who, you know, in the most egregious way of overreach, you know, laid the hammer down on Canadian citizens, not even just at the convoy.
00:05:25 But think about what was going on for the two years before the Freedom Convoy.
00:05:29 So regardless of how it all turns out, as I've said to you many times, Chris, I'm proud to be standing here with you, and we're on the right side of history.
00:05:38 Yeah, there's elements of bitterness and anger inside me towards the city of Ottawa or the Attorney General's office in Ontario.
00:05:45 For as much as police and liaison people reached out to us during the protest and said, hey, can you help us?
00:05:52 And what did we do?
00:05:53 We helped them.
00:05:54 We complied.
00:05:55 We worked with them.
00:05:56 but we had a right to to protest we had a right to be vocal and they've they've been law-faring us
00:06:02 through the courts ever since so you know next thing i don't think it'll ever happen again for
00:06:07 me and like i've been pretty vocal on that i'm good at one and done protests and i've got the
00:06:12 criminal record not approval but i would question i would question you know i wouldn't question much
00:06:18 that i did during convoy i could use some different words in a lot of my social media
00:06:22 post but but our meaning was was good we were there for the with the best of intentions we
00:06:28 acted in good faith and the government used us and everything we did and tried to demonize us
00:06:32 through the court system you know it's pathetic listening to the crown prosecutor for two years 0.98
00:06:37 it was like a little toddler crying to mom 0.96
00:06:40 the longest mischief trial in history i mean yeah it's it's very anyways um every kid dreams
00:06:51 of having a great adventure chris barber and i think you and i have been on the grandest adventure
00:06:55 at all so kudos to you for keeping your sanity well it's just it's evident you know walking
00:07:01 around the trade show visiting with people the last couple days how many people's life
00:07:04 lives we affected you know one of the biggest messages i hear from people in the last couple
00:07:08 days was just speaking people on the grounds is we appreciate what you guys tried to do for us we
00:07:15 you know they don't feel like it was in vain we accomplished a lot and we've had to pay a heavy
00:07:20 price ever since you know not just you and i but other people involved and this is this is our guest
00:07:25 tonight as well too he has paid a huge price for it for somebody who was yep we're excited about
00:07:32 this tonight yeah that's right i've been looking forward to this for a long time uh before we get
00:07:36 into that you guys first of all if you have a question for our guest chava tonight please drop
00:07:40 it in the comments uh we got to do a very special thank you to the sponsors of our show
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00:08:20 hello to everybody in the chat here it is the best coffee ever christy you're absolutely right
00:08:25 hello kevin nice to see you kevin's coming in from manitoba i had the pleasure of being at
00:08:31 kevin's house a couple years ago a couple years ago already kevin that's crazy as always let us
00:08:36 yeah hello debbie from taber mike hey nice to see you mike i've been following all your posts so uh
00:08:45 we need to catch up soon see how you're doing rachel good to see you tonight yep kevin street
00:08:51 of course he was our guest uh last week i was chatting with him a little bit this morning
00:08:54 there's been some interesting developments we won't get into that right now um but uh in their
00:09:00 in their case um one thing yeah uh most most everybody knows yesterday was remembrance day
00:09:08 a day to honor our fallen um we gave a moment of silence at the fairgrounds yesterday for that
00:09:13 and everyone that place was dead well you could hear a pin drop it was absolutely amazing to
00:09:19 witness that um but it's a little concerning with some of the stuff that went on along the country
00:09:23 and watching the canadian government almost ban prayer at a remembrance date there was no prayer
00:09:29 they did they did ban it they didn't almost ban it they actually banned prayer and the military
00:09:36 chaplains are not allowed to say the word god make that make sense i would i would agree
00:09:41 canadians one of the biggest things i hear from canadians as i speak to so many people is like
00:09:46 everybody is frustrated with the current state of this country right now when are people going
00:09:51 to have enough that's what i ask people when are you going to say i've had enough it's just going
00:09:56 down this dark and evil path in this country to remove god from just about every facility in this
00:10:01 country and now they're going even this farther and canadians are so compliant and complacent
00:10:06 to just sit back and say okay well i guess we can't do anything about it you sure can do something 0.94
00:10:11 about it you can be vocal and you can stand yeah that's right this is ridiculous but i mean i think
00:10:17 part of the problem with that at this point um and you can correct me if i'm wrong but i mean
00:10:23 we are told that canada is a democracy um and i don't think it's a democracy anymore i think
00:10:29 that's just blowing smoke up everybody's you know what i mean look what we did um try speaking out
00:10:35 against the system you'll get christened to merit and there's actually that's a thing some police
00:10:40 officers have told other people that you know you can't go to this protest because you're going to
00:10:43 get christened to merit i've heard that too so i mean they've definitely tried to make an example
00:10:48 of us and um i just it's really really concerning to me where it's going i don't think that there's
00:10:55 really any any avenues anymore to uh successfully protest this government we mark carney uh was
00:11:04 parachuted in here don't forget he became the first unelected prime minister after they made
00:11:09 him the leader of the liberal party following justin trudeau's resignation um they you know
00:11:15 gerrymandered a bunch of writings he gets elected then he steals a majority and you know i would uh
00:11:22 i was actually going to google today but of course google's down i hope it doesn't affect
00:11:25 there's a lot of problems with the internet today and um like how how many days he spent out of
00:11:32 canada and with all his best friends over in europe as to how many days that he's actually
00:11:36 spent in canada so you know he's not here for us he has never held a referendum or asked the
00:11:42 canadian people if they want to join the eu hell he was on uh in a press conference i think yesterday
00:11:48 or the day before saying that um you know the united states of america is a bigger threat to
00:11:53 us than china which is absolute and utter nonsense but i think a large part of that is because i
00:11:58 think we're already china wasn't it just a few years ago that actually it was like a year ago 0.89
00:12:03 that china was the biggest threat to our democracy was was it was what the liberal government told 0.50
00:12:07 us i'm at the place right now in canada right now where i think if the liberal government or
00:12:11 Legacy Media told people to wear their underwear on the outside of their clothes.
00:12:15 There is a vast majority of Canadians who would do that.
00:12:17 It's time to start thinking for yourself, people.
00:12:19 Turn the TV off and start critically thinking.
00:12:22 We're just going down a dirty path.
00:12:24 And this is our children's future, remember.
00:12:27 The government of Canada, the Liberal Party of Canada,
00:12:29 sold our children's future for a vote.
00:12:32 So let that sink in.
00:12:34 Yeah, you're exactly right about that.
00:12:37 Yeah, Kevin, our emails weren't working.
00:12:40 There was a lot of stuff that went down today,
00:12:43 probably another cyber attack that seems to be going around.
00:12:48 So, oh, and I guess the other announcement that I have is my second book is
00:12:53 finished.
00:12:54 So hopefully that's going to come up to print here in the next few days.
00:12:58 And I need a title for it.
00:13:01 So we need to think of a giveaway.
00:13:03 People, if you can think of a great title for my book,
00:13:06 I guess you haven't really read it yet,
00:13:07 but um i've i just you know i just can't think of a great catchy title but if you have any ideas
00:13:13 guys send us an email at 18house.arrest at gmail.com because i am completely stumped
00:13:20 or leave it in the comment section we could definitely go through that tonight as we're
00:13:23 looking through the comment section yeah that's right yeah mayor's book contest yes i think that
00:13:30 would be great okay well let's get into it uh we've got chava waiting backstage before we get
00:13:35 there i want to play a little clip and thank you to eagle vision video productions limited and our
00:13:40 good friend benjamin hobb who created the documentary unacceptable this clip is from that
00:13:46 show and i had another clip out on social media yesterday but um uh we'll we'll get around to
00:13:52 hopefully letting people know where they can pick that up if you have not seen that documentary yet
00:13:57 that was fresh on the heels following the freedom convoy and it was so well done i defy you to sit
00:14:03 and watch that movie and not bawl your eyes out.
00:14:06 Absolutely.
00:14:07 So, yeah, without further ado, let's bring up this clip,
00:14:10 and then we'll bring our good friend, Mr. Chavavizzi on.
00:14:15 It was a horrific scene, man.
00:14:19 Truckers, mates, we were just sitting in our trucks,
00:14:23 doing our part over there,
00:14:27 keep blowing our horse,
00:14:30 graving our engines.
00:14:33 witnessing all that you know me personally I don't know how my friends
00:14:41 felt over there but I was pushing my horn and raving my engine like it was some kind of weapon
00:14:50 you know yeah probably our only weapon yeah the police get closer and closer
00:15:01 Then I decide there's not much I can do. I get down from my truck right in the front. I went down on my knee, hands behind my head, and then accepting the fact I'm going to be arrested and beaten up.
00:15:19 I knew I'm going to be beat up, so they grabbed me, they pulled me between them, I was on
00:15:29 my belly on the floor, they jumped on me.
00:15:35 I can hear the noises of people getting shoved around outside, being arrested, and being
00:15:44 kneed there.
00:15:45 It's terrible.
00:15:49 welcome to the show chava how are you hi guys good to see you buddy it's nice to see you guys
00:16:00 too it's been a while since we saw each other in person it has been too long
00:16:06 we've been locked up my friend
00:16:10 how are you feeling that was you on the ground getting kneed by viciously by a canadian
00:16:17 officer of the law
00:16:19 what injuries
00:16:21 did you sustain from that and how are you doing
00:16:23 now
00:16:24 well
00:16:26 now I have days when I'm okay
00:16:29 I have days when 0.99
00:16:31 I feel like a cripple
00:16:33 but
00:16:34 in some way or
00:16:37 form I learned to live with
00:16:39 that so
00:16:40 but honestly
00:16:43 you know I think about their mother
00:16:45 a lot
00:16:46 on those days when I tried to do something
00:16:49 and my injuries, they are
00:16:51 holding me back.
00:16:54 You sustained rib injuries
00:16:57 as well as wrist injuries?
00:16:58 No, no, no.
00:16:59 They broke my wrist.
00:17:02 They damaged something
00:17:03 in my lower back because
00:17:05 I peed blood for
00:17:06 two weeks.
00:17:10 Something broke
00:17:11 in my chest. I
00:17:13 went to see a
00:17:14 doctor at the emergency room
00:17:17 a few days after that
00:17:18 because I had problem breathing.
00:17:22 They did me an
00:17:23 x-ray. They said they couldn't see
00:17:24 nothing. They said, take a Tylenol
00:17:27 and go home.
00:17:29 The doctor was 0.89
00:17:30 really ugly, 0.99
00:17:33 you know.
00:17:35 Especially after I told him
00:17:36 I was a trucker and I got
00:17:38 beaten up by
00:17:40 bullies.
00:17:43 So
00:17:44 It wasn't friendly at all.
00:17:51 That's the reason why I haven't seen a doctor since.
00:17:55 Right.
00:17:56 I mean, yeah, exactly.
00:17:57 Chubby, you weren't born in Canada. 0.99
00:18:00 You immigrated here.
00:18:01 Give us a little bit of history on where you came from
00:18:03 and why you came to Canada.
00:18:06 Why?
00:18:08 I have no idea why.
00:18:10 For all this freedom and democracy.
00:18:12 It was all the freedom and democracy.
00:18:14 Yeah, exactly. Well, I born in 71, in May 2nd in Romania. My background, it's like I have a Hungarian nationality also. So my parents, they were Hungarians. I mean, they are Hungarians.
00:18:34 And I was born in Romania as a Hungarian minority.
00:18:44 It wasn't easy because most of the Romanian wasn't too friendly with the minorities in Romania.
00:18:53 So I did face a lot of bullying and all that stuff during my school years.
00:18:58 basically they helped me to become a strong man because i have to fight these bullies all my life
00:19:09 you know and i and it was amazing you know back in romania during the communism it wasn't like
00:19:17 in canada like oh mommy this guy is bullying me oh let me call the teacher and the principal
00:19:24 and do a meeting and we'll see
00:19:26 how he's going to be. Maybe the kid
00:19:28 is going to be suspended. No, no, no, no.
00:19:30 Over there, it wasn't like that. It was
00:19:32 like, if
00:19:34 you are tough, you survive all
00:19:36 those
00:19:36 bully stings. Or
00:19:40 if he was weak, then
00:19:42 it was
00:19:44 better for you to learn to live in a corner 0.98
00:19:46 and keep your mouth shut.
00:19:48 So I wasn't that one.
00:19:50 I was the one who
00:19:51 probably, I bullied the bully
00:19:54 at the end. So I was a
00:19:56 strong kid.
00:19:58 I was a strong kid.
00:20:00 Yeah.
00:20:01 And you ended up fighting
00:20:03 in the revolution, I remember.
00:20:05 Yes, I was 18 years old
00:20:07 when the revolution
00:20:09 happened in Romania.
00:20:12 And
00:20:12 yeah, I was on
00:20:15 the street a couple of nights
00:20:17 with
00:20:19 an ex
00:20:20 and
00:20:21 he was protesting over there
00:20:24 but over there it was a little bit different
00:20:30 because at one point
00:20:32 some armed forces
00:20:35 they was shooting at the
00:20:37 protesters
00:20:38 it was a big chaos
00:20:41 it was a big chaos
00:20:42 now looking back
00:20:45 it wasn't exactly
00:20:48 how they said in the TV
00:20:49 like how everything went down at one point military bases opened up to public and who was
00:21:01 like old enough they was allowed to go into the military base and basically get an ak-47
00:21:08 and ammunition and go out and fight all those people or most of the people that even even have
00:21:17 gun training
00:21:18 I'm pretty sure
00:21:20 so many people they just
00:21:23 shoot at each other so it was a chaos
00:21:25 I don't want to get into it
00:21:26 so many people died
00:21:28 and
00:21:29 but yeah at the end
00:21:32 my doctor is crying
00:21:39 underneath the
00:21:39 thing like that
00:21:42 well you know
00:21:46 we were chatting earlier today i was just saying i was chatting with chava earlier today and there
00:21:51 was another clip that i had put on social media the other day where you were talking about
00:21:54 going down to that revolution or that fight with your father and um you know there there have been
00:22:01 a lot of uh immigrants from communist countries that we've spoken to over the last four four
00:22:06 four five years almost and even they're on the ground and one of the things that really struck
00:22:11 me about something that you said in in that clip from unacceptable was how you know you didn't get
00:22:16 a chance in Romania to speak out against the government you didn't get a chance to express
00:22:22 your feelings you know so and watching that again it just really struck me you know how these
00:22:30 immigrants from these communist countries when they came to Canada and then they hear you know 0.73
00:22:35 about all the oppression because you've been misgendered or you didn't use you know the right 0.92
00:22:40 pronoun or you know whatever nonsense whatever nonsense reason you can think of you know that
00:22:47 you faced real oppression absolute oppression and here you know they think people think hurt
00:22:55 feelings are oppressive you know if they have hurt feelings they're so offended and it's the
00:23:00 end of the world and it's off to the human rights tribunals because you know you're somebody hurt
00:23:05 your feelings i mean i can't imagine how that makes somebody like you feel that comes from a
00:23:11 country like that well tell us how that makes you feel that comes from a country like that and then
00:23:15 comes to canada where you know where this is the attitude and people think that they're so oppressed
00:23:20 here back in romania nobody cares about your feelings you know yeah exactly you were supposed
00:23:29 to suck it up and just move on with your life but here in canada i feel like you said you meet
00:23:35 mispronounce somebody oh do you hurt their feelings i you know what i can't even take 0.99
00:23:42 this bullshit seriously you know make me laugh when i hear that on tv also you go in a court and 0.99
00:23:50 they ask you what's your how you pronounce yourself her she him whatever bullshits like 1.00
00:23:58 this come on are you fucking blind i'm a man yeah so what are you anyway so you know who came from 0.99
00:24:08 where i came from from that communist era you grow up over there 0.99
00:24:13 and you see all this weakness here like uh you ask a guy for the direction of the street and
00:24:22 They said, oh, that way.
00:24:25 It's pointing you like a girl.
00:24:28 Oh, my God.
00:24:29 So, anyway, masculinality, it's pretty much gone these days.
00:24:37 And that's sad because, yeah, I hear women calling,
00:24:46 where are the men's these days? 1.00
00:24:49 Yeah, that's a good question.
00:24:50 Where are the men's?
00:24:52 Well, they were vilified by the former prime minister. Remember, I think we talked about this today to Chaba, you know, they started off with those, those horrible construction workers that are going to come and spend all their money in your town and harass all your women and whatever, you know, like it started with the toxic masculinity. I think, I think it goes so much deeper than that in Canada. I think it really comes down to trying to break apart the family unit. And I think that that's been happening here for decades at this point.
00:25:19 I mean, I feel so lucky because when I was a little, little kid, I had my my mom was able to stay home and take care of us for a while.
00:25:27 It wasn't until I think I was in grade five, you know, and we've just seen all these different factors come that have that are just ripping families apart, totally ripping families apart.
00:25:37 So that is a thing. I was blessed enough to have a mother that quit her job when I was born in 1975.
00:25:44 she worked at the bank and she spent the rest of her days raising three kids my my two other
00:25:51 siblings would come home from school and we we had a stay-at-home mom meals were made and she
00:25:57 nurtured us and raised my father went out and you know was the was the bread earner i guess but we
00:26:01 all work together as a family you know you don't see that anymore because family the family unit
00:26:05 is kind of so stressed with the extra cost of living nowadays you can't do that anymore this
00:26:10 isn't the Canada that I grew up in anymore. And I think a lot of people share that sentiment.
00:26:15 Yeah. And so, so what made you choose Canada and what year did you move here? I can't remember.
00:26:21 Well, I moved in Canada in 2000. When I was 18, I moved from Romania to Hungary and I lived there
00:26:31 10 years because all my life in Romania, I've been told like, Hey, you are a Hungarian. What
00:26:38 the hell are you doing in romania go to your country but i born in romania romania was my 0.95
00:26:44 country just you know people they was like bad and they call you names whatever and when i was 0.95
00:26:53 18 and after the revolution i get my password and i said you know what i'm gonna go in hungary
00:26:59 because i've been told all my life that's my country so i went over there and guess what
00:27:06 I wasn't being welcomed
00:27:10 by the Hungarian people
00:27:12 over there. They said, hey, you are a Romanian.
00:27:14 Go back to your country.
00:27:16 I said, come on. 0.88
00:27:18 Where do I belong, basically?
00:27:20 I have no idea. So I wasn't being really
00:27:22 accepted in...
00:27:24 Not in Romania.
00:27:26 You know, always was this fight.
00:27:29 Especially my name,
00:27:30 it's a Hungarian name.
00:27:32 So, you know, being
00:27:33 born in Romania, my parents
00:27:36 give me this name chavo that's only hungarian there is no other nation has this name and
00:27:46 in hungary i was okay with my name but i also have some sort of an accent at the beginning
00:27:54 of course they knew hey you are you didn't born in hungary of course i went to school in romania
00:28:03 in the romanian school so anyway i wasn't really feel like this is the country where i belong
00:28:15 but you know during the years you heard a lot about canada oh so many different nations are
00:28:22 living over there in peace and harmony and everybody's happy you know many times i saw
00:28:30 like the number one country to live in it's canada and i said you know what there you go i'm gonna
00:28:39 take my chances and i decide to move in canada so i came here by myself i told to my wife give
00:28:49 me a couple months let me see how it is if i can find work if i can whatever establish myself here
00:28:59 then if i feel it's safe good then you guys gonna follow me if not i'm gonna return back home
00:29:05 so after four months my wife and my oldest one they came my first job in canada i was cutting
00:29:15 glass at some golf course for cash for like five dollars and 80 cents per hour wow and
00:29:28 i was okay i was happy hi also
00:29:35 i don't know if i want to mention that i didn't just came here like that
00:29:41 I was working some sort of a job in Hungary. I was working in the security.
00:29:52 I was also a bodyguard to some really important people until I
00:30:00 had some problems with some Ukrainian mafia.
00:30:03 and
00:30:05 I didn't feel safe
00:30:10 any longer in Hungary 1.00
00:30:11 so that was also one 0.83
00:30:13 motive I came to Canada
00:30:15 right yeah
00:30:16 yeah that'll do it
00:30:18 I would have done the same thing
00:30:21 oh wow
00:30:22 so eventually led you into a job
00:30:25 cross-border travel commercial vehicle
00:30:27 driving in Canada then travel
00:30:29 yeah well I
00:30:31 So my first job, I was cutting a grass for cash.
00:30:37 The second one, I was working for a landscaping company for a couple of months.
00:30:41 And after I met some people, they helped me out to work into some plastic factory.
00:30:50 And I did that for a while.
00:30:54 I realize
00:30:57 that's
00:30:57 I cannot work like being
00:31:00 boxed in
00:31:01 you know
00:31:03 especially
00:31:05 you know
00:31:08 I went in the morning at work
00:31:10 and I start saluting people
00:31:13 left and right
00:31:13 nobody said back anything
00:31:16 until noon like everybody
00:31:18 was an angry zombie
00:31:20 only around noon
00:31:22 people, they start saying something too. And I couldn't handle that. Every day see the same people doing the same thing. I'm sorry. I probably I'm something wrong with me. I just bored differently. You know, I want to meet new people doing everyday different things, even if it's harder like that, and you are not get used to it.
00:31:50 being like a robot in a factory
00:31:53 to do this all day.
00:31:55 Oh no, I cannot do that.
00:31:57 I'm sorry, I can't go crazy.
00:31:59 So I decided to get my license.
00:32:03 Probably in this city I was the only one
00:32:06 Romanian who paid for his license
00:32:10 and not the government did. 0.98
00:32:13 Because that time I was just
00:32:15 I had a refugee status. 0.99
00:32:20 You know, so the government won't pay any school for you while you are a refugee.
00:32:27 And I started working as a truck driver.
00:32:32 And I fall in love with that.
00:32:34 At the beginning, it was so scary.
00:32:37 When I saw that big truck, big trailer, oh my goodness.
00:32:42 That's, at the beginning, it's very tough.
00:32:44 I gotta tell you, it's very tough.
00:32:46 And that was like, I don't know, 23 years ago, 24 maybe.
00:32:53 I don't know exactly, but a long time ago.
00:32:57 So, and everything went good.
00:33:01 I start making good money because I'm really a hard worker, you know.
00:33:05 In this city, many companies know me and they know me.
00:33:10 I'm a very, very hard driver, a hard worker.
00:33:16 And I did make a nice living.
00:33:19 You know, I was able to provide to my family.
00:33:21 Everything was nice.
00:33:22 We was able to go on vacation once a year, maybe,
00:33:25 and buy nice things, you know, drive fancy car.
00:33:32 All the family was wearing nice clothes.
00:33:35 It was good.
00:33:37 Living the Canadian dream.
00:33:39 Yes.
00:33:40 Until COVID hit.
00:33:42 Then everything went upside down, you know.
00:33:46 Politically, I wasn't involved or following anything in Canada.
00:33:51 I was just knowing one thing, going out, work hard,
00:33:56 and when I got time to be smiling and, you know, be around my family.
00:34:05 Then COVID started and it opened my eyes, yes.
00:34:11 until I
00:34:12 until that I was so busy with
00:34:14 my busy life
00:34:16 and after that I see
00:34:19 all that
00:34:21 bad things
00:34:22 what's happening you know
00:34:24 yeah that
00:34:28 definitely opened my eyes yes
00:34:30 then I see the true colors of everything
00:34:33 going around you know
00:34:34 I realize
00:34:36 that hey there is
00:34:38 zero democracy in this country
00:34:40 zero right zero yep there's an illusion it's an illusion of democracy exactly yep that's what i
00:34:49 think and then the mandates came right we were we were we were held as as heroes through the start
00:34:57 of the the pandemic for being over the road truckers delivering freight and goods to keep
00:35:02 people alive and then Justin Trudeau decided to turn on us didn't he and in
00:35:09 January of 2022 that was my big turn it was actually October of 2021 what about
00:35:15 you Jovo? Well when Covid started I have to admit that for like two or three
00:35:22 weeks I was scared okay that's the truth yeah I was thinking oh my god we're gonna
00:35:29 an old eye you know i had to go to work i was driving with uh gloves opening doors with my
00:35:40 elbows feet and stuff you know i was driving through montreal at 3 p.m with uh without seeing
00:35:50 anyone on the streets like it was the whole city dead okay that was scary because at 3 p.m in
00:35:58 Montreal, these days, you barely
00:36:00 can move your vehicle for the
00:36:02 heavy traffic what it is.
00:36:04 But in those days,
00:36:07 I couldn't see
00:36:10 a living soul
00:36:12 walking in
00:36:14 Montreal while I
00:36:16 was driving through.
00:36:18 You know?
00:36:19 And until three
00:36:22 weeks, three weeks
00:36:24 into this COVID
00:36:26 thing,
00:36:27 I
00:36:28 And I just realized it's a hoax. 0.98
00:36:33 So it's a bullshit, you know, especially in 2010, I saw some news back from my country 0.99
00:36:41 when they show Bill Gates on the TV. 0.99
00:36:46 It was talking at one seminar in front of so many people saying like how overpopulated
00:36:52 is the the globe and they have to control those numbers with some vaccine and suddenly this memory
00:37:03 came back during the covid when i saw him in the tv again saying like oh everybody chill
00:37:08 our scientists are working 24 hours to save you all and i said hey hold on a second i saw that
00:37:16 what you said in 1992
00:37:18 actually
00:37:19 you said we were
00:37:21 already overpopulating
00:37:25 the earth and
00:37:25 we had too many people living
00:37:28 on earth so earth couldn't 0.99
00:37:30 sustain us with food and bullshit 0.99
00:37:32 like this and 1.00
00:37:33 now you want to save us all?
00:37:36 I said no, no, no, no
00:37:37 I'm sorry for my language 0.94
00:37:40 ask you when you're a vaccine 1.00
00:37:43 so I'm not going to take it
00:37:45 It's not like I refuse to take the vaccine because I'm like, I know what's in it
00:37:51 or whatever, just because of this.
00:37:54 I said, you know what?
00:37:55 No, I'm not going to take any vaccine.
00:37:58 Yeah.
00:37:58 And yeah, in that time was also a lockdown.
00:38:02 My family was living in the house, not living in the house.
00:38:06 I was the only one who went to work and this and that. 0.98
00:38:10 You know, my oldest one, she was already in like four years of nursing program.
00:38:18 She was before, she was about to write her boarding exam and she couldn't write it because she also didn't get the vaccine and stuff like that.
00:38:33 So she was home crying.
00:38:35 So, you know, I'm pretty sure so many families went through that, uh, so
00:38:40 much emotion and...
00:38:41 Too many.
00:38:42 Yes.
00:38:43 Almost every one.
00:38:45 Until I heard about the Freedom Convoy.
00:38:49 You know, many times I was sitting here alone on the sofa in the night while
00:38:53 girls, they went to sleep and, uh, I was eating myself up.
00:38:58 Like how, what can I do?
00:39:00 How, what can I do to protect my family?
00:39:02 to, you know, and then I heard about this convoy and I said, that's it.
00:39:07 I will take part in it.
00:39:11 Wow.
00:39:12 You know, so when everything started, I did protest here at the Ambassador
00:39:18 Bridge because this Ambassador Bridge, it's in Windsor.
00:39:22 Probably many people, they don't know.
00:39:25 So I did protest here four days in a row, you know, slowing down traffic.
00:39:32 can get in trouble with police here and there, like why I'm in the left lane and stuff like that.
00:39:40 So my intention in the beginning, it wasn't to go to Ottawa, honestly.
00:39:49 But what triggered me one day to go to Ottawa, it was, I saw a group of little kids with their
00:40:00 teacher on the side of the road all of them they was holding signs you know and one kid was
00:40:07 holding the sign upside down the teacher walked there to to make it straight and i got so emotional
00:40:15 because of that i don't know why then that afternoon i came home i put some flags on my truck
00:40:26 and the next day
00:40:29 I joined the convoy
00:40:30 so that's how I end up in Ottawa
00:40:32 probably if I don't see those kids
00:40:35 over there
00:40:35 I will never get myself to Ottawa
00:40:39 those days 1.00
00:40:40 Chaba, did you feel like
00:40:43 the mandates were ever going to end?
00:40:45 in my head, looking back on it
00:40:47 it seemed like the government was kind of feeding
00:40:48 it was like a
00:40:50 stick with a carrot on the end
00:40:52 and they kept dangling and saying
00:40:53 well if we just do this, this and this
00:40:55 you can have your freedoms back but
00:40:57 Marco Mendicino was speaking about interprovincial
00:41:00 check stops coming
00:41:01 the mandates at the border were implemented January
00:41:04 15th I didn't see like there was
00:41:05 going to be an end to it and the government kept
00:41:07 pushing and pushing and pushing until finally
00:41:09 stood up did you see that too
00:41:12 yes in some way
00:41:15 yes I saw that
00:41:17 and I knew
00:41:19 it's not going to
00:41:21 stop over there
00:41:22 I knew more things
00:41:25 is going to follow you know so i i lost all my trust in the government all my trust
00:41:37 you know how could you trust them they kept moving the goal posts like you just said they
00:41:44 kept moving the goal posts just two weeks for this just a few more months than this that you
00:41:48 know it was um it was crazy i'm just going to see if i guess i could just ask you tasha is
00:41:52 going to send you check tasha would you be able to bring up um when you have a second and no rush
00:41:57 some of those photos that chava had posted in our chat um i do want to show everybody his his rig
00:42:03 um i want to just say too the theory through kova two weeks to flatten the curb two years later
00:42:11 yeah that's right i can't remember where were you parked chava in ottawa well uh
00:42:18 I parked in three different places, probably I was the only one doing that during the convoy.
00:42:26 When I get up in Ottawa with my convoy, first day I spent it in the front of the War Museum.
00:42:39 And I just realized I didn't came here to be parked on the side of the road here in the War Museum.
00:42:46 a police car blocking the intersection and all that stuff and all the movement the fight is
00:42:51 going on in the front of the parliament so i wait until the next day because they told me no no no
00:42:59 we gotta wait here we're gonna get instruction this and that we'll see tomorrow what's gonna
00:43:04 happen so i woke up tomorrow the next day and i said okay nothing's happening it's was so cold
00:43:12 like probably minus 35 that morning i wasn't really dressed up for that quote you know
00:43:19 i decided to get off from my truck and talk with other truckers like hey guys what the
00:43:25 hell we are doing here let's go at the parliament and now everybody was scared no no no i'm okay
00:43:34 here oh my boss told me to stay here do not move no no no so i got only like no response as a
00:43:41 response so i get back in my truck i mean i had a friend with me uh christian and i told him like
00:43:52 i didn't ask him i told him i said listen i get in my truck i'm start moving you're gonna follow me
00:43:59 he said yes yes okay okay so at that time i drive through i wouldn't say it was a barricade
00:44:09 there was like those cones
00:44:11 placed on the road
00:44:13 you know
00:44:13 fortunately I had to push one
00:44:16 because
00:44:17 the space wasn't wide enough for my truck
00:44:21 at that point
00:44:23 the police officer lost his mind
00:44:25 he jumped out from his vehicle
00:44:27 and he was making signs like 0.56
00:44:29 what the hell are you doing 0.63
00:44:30 and I just 0.92
00:44:31 I waved him like goodbye
00:44:34 and I was still driving
00:44:35 to that intersection
00:44:37 and still today I don't remember if that intersection
00:44:42 had the green light for me to cross it.
00:44:45 Oh, there is a light there too.
00:44:48 Yes, but I don't remember if it was green or red
00:44:51 or whatever color it was.
00:44:53 When I decided I'm going to move, I'm going to move.
00:44:55 So anyway, I waved the officer goodbye.
00:45:00 My friend followed me and somebody with a pickup truck.
00:45:04 so I start going
00:45:06 probably with some
00:45:09 street with
00:45:11 Wellington
00:45:12 until I start seeing the trucks
00:45:15 but I still couldn't see
00:45:17 the government buildings
00:45:19 not like I know how they look like
00:45:22 I don't even
00:45:24 know what I was expecting
00:45:25 to see
00:45:27 where is the center
00:45:29 fire of the convoy
00:45:31 over there so I was keep going
00:45:33 keep going until I
00:45:35 get on that street
00:45:37 where that fancy hotel is
00:45:40 Chateau
00:45:42 Chateau
00:45:42 so when I get into that intersection
00:45:46 I already saw
00:45:48 lots of people
00:45:49 heading towards
00:45:51 the Wellington
00:45:52 and also they were blocked by a
00:45:55 police cruiser
00:45:57 and nobody made any moves
00:46:00 so me 0.95
00:46:01 the Balkan crazy guy 0.91
00:46:03 Romanian crazy guy I went around everybody around that cruiser and when I did that everybody 0.70
00:46:16 started moving until nobody was having enough courage to get close to that cruiser what was 0.99
00:46:24 parked like in the middle of the intersection so I'm going on the bridge which one they blocked
00:46:31 and it was full with government vehicles and when i get onto the bridge
00:46:39 police rush to my truck you know like crazy they stopped me they start yelling like what
00:46:45 they was using bad words like what the are you think you're doing and i said hey listen i said
00:46:54 i'm coming from windsor from like almost nine hours driving i said is this bridge yours i asked
00:47:04 the officer i said because if it's yours it's mine too and i have the right to be in it and the guy
00:47:11 suddenly just backed off he said okay okay buddy can you give us a couple minutes he said to move
00:47:18 the vehicles from the bridge i said yes go ahead so they run no they didn't walk they run to their
00:47:28 vehicle because they the bridge was like that and the vehicles was parked like that probably 10 big
00:47:34 suvs black suvs rcmp vehicle they run to the vehicles and they they moved out then for two
00:47:44 days it was weekend for two days that bridge was full with cars and trucks because of me
00:47:55 so then monday morning when i woke up i realized hope everybody's gone i said i see a camper
00:48:03 vehicle here a truck there i said what the hell is going on then i turned and i was facing
00:48:10 the hotel with my truck. And in that position, I was parked for like, I don't know for how long,
00:48:20 two and a half weeks, probably, until exactly February 17. Yes, because in February 17,
00:48:33 some of my trucker friends who they was parked around me
00:48:41 they decide to go home and I was left alone
00:48:46 then the police moved on me they tried to get me out of there or arrest me I
00:48:58 I cannot tell you exactly because what happened that night
00:49:02 i had my family come to visit me and i had my girls all days long walking around the protest and
00:49:13 all that and at the end i walked them back to the hotel and when i get into the hotel room i get a
00:49:21 phone call from a friend like hey you gotta come back police is here they surrounded your truck
00:49:26 they want to tow it they want to arrest you stuff like that then i said holy mooring i
00:49:32 kissed my girls i said hey don't worry about me i'm gonna be fine probably i'm gonna be arrested
00:49:38 tonight you know i gotta go back to my truck see what's going on so when i went back to my truck
00:49:45 chris tamara you won't believe that what i saw when i get close you know to that intersection
00:49:53 when I was parked I realized people they are singing the anthem they are yelling freedom
00:50:00 and when I get closer and closer I see people basically they was holding on each other blocking
00:50:06 the intersections so other police vehicles or police to cannot get in to protect my truck
00:50:16 But it wasn't like 20 peoples or 10 peoples.
00:50:20 It was a few hundred peoples.
00:50:23 When I was parked, it was like basically three directions.
00:50:29 You can approach me where I was positioned.
00:50:34 And people, they formed cordons all over the place to block everything.
00:50:40 So I sneak into my truck.
00:50:42 and because people
00:50:45 told me, hey, you've got to move in the front of the parliament
00:50:48 because you are not safe here.
00:50:49 You are by yourself here
00:50:51 and they can get you
00:50:53 easily. So go,
00:50:55 stay with the rest of the trucks, move up on the hill.
00:50:59 So I tried,
00:51:00 I jumped into my truck.
00:51:02 I started.
00:51:04 Brakes day was
00:51:05 froze up.
00:51:07 My rear axle didn't move.
00:51:10 You know, at one point
00:51:12 I couldn't
00:51:13 go no more because my truck was
00:51:16 sliding. There was a massive
00:51:18 snowstorm that night. They were pushing my
00:51:20 truck up on the hill.
00:51:22 Wow. A whole bunch of people
00:51:24 they pushed my truck up on the hill.
00:51:27 Wow. With a trailer?
00:51:29 You had your trailer? No, no, no.
00:51:30 I was just Bob Taylor over there.
00:51:32 Bob Taylor.
00:51:34 Gotcha.
00:51:36 So that was
00:51:37 the highest
00:51:39 point for me.
00:51:41 like you know all those people they came together some uh youtube influencers did some video while
00:51:49 i was walking back from the hotel to my truck like hey come and uh protect job or whatever i
00:51:57 don't even know what they said so because of that people they came together like a lot a lot i got
00:52:03 some video footages about that night you know that's that's well it's amazing our good friend
00:52:09 Dave Paisley was live from the shed.
00:52:11 He was right there.
00:52:14 No, there were so many.
00:52:15 So many.
00:52:17 I got
00:52:19 so many footages about that.
00:52:21 It's like, you know,
00:52:23 the
00:52:26 way I felt
00:52:29 that night,
00:52:31 I don't even know if you won the lottery
00:52:35 can get you
00:52:37 that high
00:52:38 the way those people
00:52:41 make me feel that night over there.
00:52:44 That was like...
00:52:47 And everybody came
00:52:49 over there to 1.00
00:52:50 save my ass, you know? 1.00
00:52:53 Yeah. 1.00
00:52:55 Yeah.
00:52:56 Then I got questions from other people.
00:52:58 Why you decide to stay and get yourself
00:53:00 in trouble and all that?
00:53:02 Come on, when so many people, they are
00:53:04 helping you out. They are coming
00:53:06 to help you out.
00:53:07 But, you know, how can I let all those people down to say, oh, guys, I'm sorry, but I have to leave because, look, three mean-looking officers are looking at my truck, I have to leave.
00:53:21 No, no, no, I am not like that.
00:53:24 And plus, the rest of the few million people I met during those three weeks over there, because my truck was like a confession boot.
00:53:42 I woke up at, I don't know, 7.30 in the morning, and I already have people stopping at my truck, talking with me.
00:53:54 I have regular people bringing me coffee every morning, you know,
00:53:59 trying to make me laugh, to encourage me, you know,
00:54:05 don't lose hope and stuff like that.
00:54:06 Stay strong.
00:54:08 And plus the rest of the type of people came who they share their story with you.
00:54:15 Like, you know, I lost my husband.
00:54:19 I lost my wife.
00:54:21 My little girl died.
00:54:23 or my boy is paralyzed and all that stuff please we beg you stay here for us you know and you heard
00:54:32 that this type of the stories from seven eight o'clock in the morning till one o'clock or two
00:54:39 o'clock in the morning next day you know for three weeks when when you promise everyone
00:54:48 yes i'm gonna stay for you i'm i promise i'm not gonna move how can i let all those people down
00:54:55 when i see police are coming on armored vehicle horses and shooting like rubber bullets at you 0.87
00:55:03 and all that bullshit intimidation tactics no i said no man i'm not gonna move from here
00:55:11 i also get the phone call like uh like i don't know an hour before uh police reached to me like 0.92
00:55:17 hey, Chobo, we are regrouping whatever on some farm and stuff like that.
00:55:23 I said, yeah, you guys do whatever you have to do. 1.00
00:55:26 Me, I'm not going to move from here because I said I couldn't look up to myself
00:55:34 in the mirror after making so many promises to millions of people,
00:55:41 not hundreds, not thousands, I will say millions,
00:55:45 because many times people, they was in a line at my truck
00:55:50 to talk with me, in a line.
00:55:53 So I had to say to some people,
00:55:55 can you please look how many people are behind you?
00:56:01 Anyway, so I had to deal and talk with like a lot of people
00:56:06 and promise them I will stay.
00:56:07 So listen, even they were shooting life bullets.
00:56:15 you know, I will stay there.
00:56:20 That's 100%.
00:56:21 We felt that too.
00:56:23 Coming across Canada, as far as we came on our way to Ottawa,
00:56:26 I guess the most thing we heard from people that we met on the side of the road
00:56:31 that people wanted a change, they wanted to have their freedoms back,
00:56:35 and they didn't want us to stop until they got that.
00:56:38 And we all felt the obligation to all those people that stood there for us
00:56:43 So we had a point to prove just as much as the government trying to had a
00:56:46 point to prove, right.
00:56:48 They were going to continue to tell Terry and path,
00:56:51 and we were going to try and speak against it.
00:56:54 And in the documentary,
00:56:56 burn burn Buechert put that so nicely because he was talking about this
00:57:00 exact same thing.
00:57:01 And he's, and he called it the burden of hope, like, because everyone,
00:57:04 you know, they had so much hope.
00:57:06 You don't leave until we're free, you know,
00:57:09 stay as long as you have to stay.
00:57:11 because we're bringing people so much hope.
00:57:14 And it was.
00:57:15 I think that weighed heavy on a lot of us, Chavo. 1.00
00:57:18 It's like we can't leave. 1.00
00:57:19 Oh, yes.
00:57:20 Yes.
00:57:20 You know, talking with so many people and see how desperate they are
00:57:25 and they saw probably a solution in you.
00:57:29 At one point, I guess they made me feel like I really have a power
00:57:35 to do something for them, like to really change their life,
00:57:39 to bring back happiness or hope in their life.
00:57:43 And I feel like I was pushed at one minute
00:57:49 when I was thinking about myself,
00:57:51 I must have some superpower and I can do something for them.
00:57:55 You know, and probably that stick in my mind.
00:58:00 And yeah, I feel like
00:58:06 And I'm their, I don't know, like their bodyguard or their superhero or something like that, you know.
00:58:20 You were. That's because you were.
00:58:24 You were.
00:58:24 It was kind of disappointing the whole thing went down the way it went.
00:58:28 Oh, I think I froze.
00:58:29 i i was really hoping to be able to do more than basically i did i don't think i did much other than
00:58:40 just throwing myself in the front of those bad officers but like i said i was like really to go
00:58:56 all the way and it was really ready to go all the way
00:59:03 so you you took part job in a in a documentary that was filmed shortly
00:59:07 after the freedom convoy called unacceptable
00:59:11 and then and johanna hobb uh the producers are the owners of
00:59:15 ecovision video productions asked you to come on that and i
00:59:18 wanted to say you're you're what you said in the documentary
00:59:22 unacceptable was so heartfelt and so powerful we felt i mean i can't make it through that
00:59:30 documentary without either feeling the rage of emotions right you're you're angry one minute
00:59:35 you're you're proud the next moment and you actually shed a tear the next moment that
00:59:40 documentary is so powerful and because of your your statements in it your um you know you're
00:59:48 just your story i think it added to that story so much uh i encourage everybody if you haven't
00:59:54 seen the unacceptable documentary it's it's really really easy to find on on the internet
00:59:58 unacceptable doc.ca and you can view that it's about a two and a half hour documentary you
01:00:04 you get the entire chavez story you get tamaras you get some of the different key players in
01:00:10 ottawa and the protest as well as you also get the other side of it too i love the way that ben
01:00:14 he did it he did the build up to why
01:00:17 Freedom Convoy happened he did the
01:00:19 stories from the people in it and he also
01:00:21 did the aftermath which is very important
01:00:23 you know what
01:00:25 I never have the chance to ask Benjamin
01:00:27 like it was really necessary
01:00:29 to cut
01:00:31 off a tree
01:00:32 because what I said in the movie
01:00:35 no that was
01:00:36 the most powerful thing of all
01:00:39 the analogy
01:00:41 and i have to do a plug i have to do a plug for a donna left from boys book too actually chaba
01:00:49 is on the cover of it sorry i don't know if you can see it um thank you truckers and i think are
01:00:55 you chapter one chaba um no anyways uh yes uh 13 but i'm not sure yeah honestly i haven't even read
01:01:05 my chapter to be honest with you no I'm serious I haven't read it no probably I
01:01:16 told you guys in person but the people who are watching this shown our podcast
01:01:25 or whatever we call it they probably don't know but since the convoy I'm I'm
01:01:34 suffering with ptsd you know i can't really re-watch things like that or even if i have to
01:01:45 search for some pictures somewhere and i see pictures from the convoy then i start looking at
01:01:54 them and i get so emotional and many times i cannot help out myself just i'm stopped crying and
01:02:02 And it's not easy, like, you know, as a man to cry in front of somebody.
01:02:11 I do it all the time.
01:02:13 So, yeah, since the convoy, I'm not the same, you know.
01:02:17 Me too, yeah.
01:02:19 Chubby, you were charged after Ottawa.
01:02:21 You were arrested.
01:02:21 You were beaten by law enforcement and then you were charged.
01:02:25 What kind of charges did you get?
01:02:26 And tell us about your arrest.
01:02:28 Tell us about your arrest because you got out of your truck and surrendered.
01:02:32 peacefully.
01:02:34 It was so funny
01:02:36 moments. We laugh with
01:02:38 the officers a lot.
01:02:41 They was coming close to my
01:02:46 truck.
01:02:48 There was four trucks
01:02:50 in the front line.
01:02:53 It was me,
01:02:54 Kevin.
01:02:57 It was
01:02:58 anyway so i'm sitting in my truck and you know seeing all those horrific scenes what i saw
01:03:09 the way officers hit with those buttons old people women's you know i was honestly i was
01:03:21 full of anger. Like, at one point, all these four tracks, we
01:03:27 was quiet. Our engine was running, it's true. But we was
01:03:32 like, watching to those horrific scenes. I remember at one
01:03:40 point, out for anger, I start pushing my gas pedal, I was
01:03:45 thinking my engine is gonna blow out. Then I pushed my horns
01:03:51 And my friends next to me, they followed.
01:03:55 And I remember I did a nice contact with an officer holding an AR-15 rifle.
01:04:05 An AR-15 rifle.
01:04:08 Just think about that.
01:04:09 A carbide rifle at a peaceful protest because the government doesn't want to listen to Canadian citizens.
01:04:14 Oh, I can tell you more.
01:04:17 Yeah.
01:04:17 You guys remember those snipers on the top of the buildings?
01:04:21 they have a red dot installed on their rifles and many people they saw their the red dots on their
01:04:29 clothes on their faces because they was uh looking at the protesters and whatever it's going down
01:04:38 there through the scope pointing the gun to people and i have a gun license too you know the first
01:04:45 thing probably what they teach us in the school they said you cannot point a gun to anyone
01:04:52 but these guys they are above love laws you know they can do anything they want
01:05:00 yes so yeah when uh yeah the police they came close to my truck you know i'm not gonna share
01:05:07 everything like uh you know the whole scene what i said which one is still in my mind i close my
01:05:13 eyes and I, I can still see myself over there, like happening right now.
01:05:20 That's how clear I can remember everything.
01:05:26 Yeah, I get down from my truck and I said, I'm a big guy, you know,
01:05:33 officers, they gonna try to grab me from the truck.
01:05:36 It's gonna be a disaster. 1.00
01:05:38 I said, you know, fuck them. 1.00
01:05:39 I just gonna go down. 1.00
01:05:41 And I will be on my knee, match their heights, you know, so they don't have to look up to me.
01:05:51 So anyway, when I was there, first contact, they tried to push me back with those batons.
01:05:58 But I was on my knee.
01:05:59 I had my hands behind my head already.
01:06:02 I told them, I'm a driver.
01:06:05 And then a SWAT officer yelled to the rest of the guys over there to arrest me.
01:06:13 So they pulled me between them.
01:06:17 I was on my belly.
01:06:20 And I was so fulled up with adrenaline, you know, I couldn't feel the punches and the kicks.
01:06:30 I just feel like I was being moved a lot.
01:06:33 what I also remember
01:06:36 it was because they
01:06:38 was on top of me
01:06:39 I wasn't able
01:06:41 to breathe properly and it was
01:06:44 harder and harder and I was
01:06:45 thinking how long this is
01:06:48 going to last because soon I'm going to run
01:06:50 out of breath
01:06:51 but it ended at one
01:06:53 point, they
01:06:55 helped me out back in my feet
01:06:57 and
01:06:59 after that I
01:07:00 I've been walked down to some other officers
01:07:07 and they proceed with
01:07:09 fingerprints and 0.98
01:07:10 all that bullshit 0.99
01:07:12 but yeah 0.99
01:07:16 I remember that being in that
01:07:19 prisoner vehicle for so long
01:07:21 it was a torture
01:07:23 you know
01:07:23 because if they
01:07:25 run the engine
01:07:27 produce so much heat
01:07:30 You barely was able to breathe in it.
01:07:35 You were handcuffed behind your back when you were sitting there.
01:07:40 And somebody complained, hey, officer, it's too hot.
01:07:43 So they shut down the engine.
01:07:47 In like five minutes, it was like freaking cold.
01:07:52 So you were scared over there.
01:07:53 I don't remember for how many hours or for how long.
01:07:58 It feels so, so long.
01:07:59 They drive us to some warehouse, not a police station, some warehouse.
01:08:06 Yeah.
01:08:07 And over there, I've been taking pictures and fingerprints and all that stuff.
01:08:14 I remember about that, you know, when they took a picture of me, there was like four
01:08:20 officers in the room and the lady who was doing some paperwork right beside me.
01:08:25 and i remember i was keep telling them like uh why you guys are doing all this why you are not with us
01:08:34 and i remember i told the officers you know what you guys arrest me today but look good at me i
01:08:42 will be the one arresting you tomorrow and some of them they laughed after the mask yeah another
01:08:50 one was yelling because he was
01:08:51 saying something about charges
01:08:54 and I didn't want to pay attention to
01:08:56 him. So anyway,
01:08:58 they get me the paperwork
01:08:59 and they left me out on the street. I have no
01:09:02 idea which direction to go, where I am.
01:09:04 You know, I had no phone
01:09:05 because I give my phone a couple
01:09:07 minutes before to someone.
01:09:14 So they towed your
01:09:15 truck, obviously. Tell us a little
01:09:17 about that. Yes, they did.
01:09:20 i've been told by others hey you better let your windows down because they will crush it
01:09:26 and that was a good idea so i rolled down my windows and that's how i found my truck
01:09:33 one week after i was allowed to go and get it back of course i had to we had to pay like
01:09:40 $1,200 for them to release
01:09:43 the truck
01:09:44 and my truck was
01:09:47 pretty much full with snow
01:09:48 on the seats
01:09:51 and everything, battery is completely
01:09:53 dead, it was
01:09:55 probably a Friday
01:09:57 and I
01:09:59 remember this Kenning guy
01:10:01 was there too
01:10:03 and he was so loud and he was
01:10:05 pushing his horns 0.88
01:10:07 and pissing off 0.57
01:10:08 officers and we was
01:10:11 almost kicked out because of him
01:10:13 and
01:10:14 they said if we're gonna kick you out
01:10:17 you can come back Monday
01:10:18 and I begged Kevin, Kevin please
01:10:20 behave man, let us take the
01:10:22 trucks out and
01:10:24 do whatever you want after that
01:10:26 so we went
01:10:28 quiet, we was able to start the trucks
01:10:30 and move it out
01:10:32 Yes, we all know Kevin only too well
01:10:37 don't we?
01:10:38 Yes, we do. Yes, we do know, Kevin.
01:10:41 We're good.
01:10:43 So $1,200, you get your truck back.
01:10:45 You're charged, right, Cheva?
01:10:47 You're charged with, I'm guessing, mischief?
01:10:51 Yes.
01:10:52 Right after I was charged with resisting arrest,
01:10:56 one count of mischief,
01:10:58 and failing to obey a court order,
01:11:02 which one they meant about the honking.
01:11:05 And after I return home, a couple months after that, they just throw another mischief just
01:11:14 like that to the rest of my charges.
01:11:17 Same with us.
01:11:19 And I've been told by my lawyers, they are looking to get me two years in prison.
01:11:30 So I hired my first fancy, very expensive lawyer.
01:11:38 He didn't want to even see me until his secretary didn't count the 10 grand
01:11:44 what he asked for a retainer.
01:11:48 10 grand.
01:11:49 Then a couple months after I retained him, I get a letter from their office like,
01:11:55 well, we are sorry, but I'm not going to name him.
01:11:57 he's retiring and
01:12:00 he's wishing me good luck and blah blah blah
01:12:03 and he sent me like a bill
01:12:04 with how much money I have left
01:12:07 barely nothing from the 10 grand
01:12:09 I realized
01:12:10 a phone call it's 150
01:12:12 an email it's 125
01:12:14 a text message it's 75 0.99
01:12:16 something like bullshit like this 0.99
01:12:18 talking with the crown 1.00
01:12:19 2 grand
01:12:22 this and that so anyway
01:12:23 so I'm
01:12:25 I lost my first 10 grand
01:12:28 with my lawyer
01:12:29 I did decide
01:12:32 to hire his associate
01:12:34 I wasn't so much
01:12:36 I didn't have so much knowledge about
01:12:38 like lawyers, how they
01:12:40 work, about
01:12:41 the words they are using
01:12:44 with these cases, so I was like
01:12:46 completely lost
01:12:48 so I rely on some of my friends
01:12:50 who they claim
01:12:52 oh we're gonna help you out
01:12:54 in this and that
01:12:55 So I decided to hire his associate.
01:12:58 His associate seemed so nice at the beginning.
01:13:00 He said, you know what, I'm going to charge you only $25,000.
01:13:03 And don't worry about it if you don't have the money until your court is going to be come.
01:13:08 We will work on some whatever payments after that.
01:13:12 So no pressure from us and blah, blah, blah.
01:13:15 Until, I don't know, he just probably realized I'm, so many people are behind me.
01:13:22 and suddenly he just changed
01:13:25 he said you know what
01:13:26 no I need 35,000 and I need the money
01:13:29 all the money with 8 weeks
01:13:31 before the trial
01:13:32 so
01:13:35 I decide to let him go
01:13:39 of course I did lost
01:13:41 I don't remember how much
01:13:42 exactly how much money
01:13:45 I hired my third one
01:13:46 the third one was like
01:13:48 I'm a freedom fighter just like you
01:13:51 i also i was in ottawa this and that you know what don't worry about it we're gonna rock the
01:14:00 courthouse i said okay that's the attitude the confidence i need from a lawyer then one year
01:14:09 passed by i get a phone call he said hey i talked with the judge and the judge offered you a deal
01:14:17 i said really what kind of deal he said yeah you have to plead guilty and um you're gonna accept
01:14:24 one year of like uh suspended jail sentence or i don't know exactly the words but um house arrest
01:14:32 not house arrest oh actually some kind of suspension so in that year if i commit something
01:14:39 small i will be charged for the small thing plus i'm they're gonna add me that year and probably 0.96
01:14:46 I will spend it in jail and I said to the lawyer no no fuck no no I'm not gonna accept any deal 0.96
01:14:54 I said not even just for me to walk in the courtroom in the front of the judge and I said 0.98
01:15:01 oh judge I'm sorry I feel sorry yes I'm guilty and I'm sorry about me being in Ottawa I said no
01:15:08 I'm not gonna say not even that he said you crazy don't you understand you're gonna go for two years
01:15:13 in jail i said listen if he came to that i will go to the fucking jail for two years i don't care 0.99
01:15:19 yeah but i have to live with that decision okay and i'm not gonna bend in front of nobody 0.99
01:15:27 say yeah yeah you know just to come off easy no bullshit fuck i'm sorry yeah i it's okay 0.97
01:15:36 it's losing a little bit so i said no i'm not gonna take it so i had to let this guy go too 0.99
01:15:43 And then I hired
01:15:47 Diane Magas. 1.00
01:15:51 She's an awesome lady.
01:15:54 I can't thank her enough for what she did for me.
01:16:01 And that's Chris's lawyer too.
01:16:03 For those that don't know, that's Chris's lawyer too.
01:16:04 I'm a free man, no record, no nothing.
01:16:08 But you know what's
01:16:10 said, while I was
01:16:13 waiting in Ottawa, in that
01:16:15 one week, to get my truck back
01:16:17 in some way or form,
01:16:20 I get a phone
01:16:21 call from her
01:16:22 saying, hey,
01:16:25 my name is Diane Magas,
01:16:27 I'm a criminal lawyer, and I can
01:16:29 help you out if you want.
01:16:32 But the people around me
01:16:33 that time, they said,
01:16:35 oh, no, no, no, no, no, stay away from everybody
01:16:37 from Ottawa, they are on the same
01:16:39 whatever
01:16:40 you know with
01:16:42 stay away so
01:16:44 I didn't
01:16:46 give her a chance that day to help me out
01:16:51 probably if I give her a chance from the beginning 1.00
01:16:53 I didn't have this 0.54
01:16:55 bad experience going through all these lawyers
01:16:57 what I have
01:16:58 and you know
01:17:01 in total
01:17:03 it cost me like $73,000
01:17:06 for all these lawyers
01:17:07 in total
01:17:08 crazy no yeah absolutely crazy it's not cheap and diane just did a charter application obviously
01:17:17 uh you were beaten in front of parliament hill diane nagus which is my lawyer also we
01:17:23 kind of helped you look each other up there so you could get some some decent um help diane
01:17:30 knew the system she was in ottawa with us she understood what happened on the on the throughout
01:17:35 the protest so she was a really really good fit with that and i'm glad she was able to challenge
01:17:40 your case with the charter application obviously she won that your charges were all stayed or
01:17:45 dropped we were thankful for that yes and because i chose to go with her i never said that out
01:17:56 publicly i lost a significant group of friends why chose uh because because because she was my
01:18:06 lawyer why like that's right that's right if you find out who your friends are really really fast
01:18:12 in small circles exactly so but here's a second i'll be right i'll be right back you guys keep
01:18:18 going i'll be right back i just gotta pop up for one second yeah just a question for each other
01:18:22 just a question for you do you miss that group of friends when you found out who they really are
01:18:26 no, now looking back
01:18:29 not at all
01:18:30 I've realized that in the last
01:18:33 four years it is
01:18:34 you trust your inner circle
01:18:37 but you keep that inner circle very small
01:18:39 because there's a lot of people out there
01:18:41 who will try to throw you under the bus
01:18:42 and destroy you the minute they have the opportunity
01:18:44 which is pretty sad
01:18:46 yeah
01:18:48 go ahead
01:18:52 they call me all kind of names
01:18:54 like now you are
01:18:56 a treat or two
01:18:57 like now you are on
01:18:59 their team I said why because I
01:19:02 hire a lawyer who obviously
01:19:04 has good
01:19:06 results you know
01:19:07 she already freed a few people
01:19:10 so anyway
01:19:13 that's crazy I don't
01:19:16 want to talk about it
01:19:17 they're not worth their time
01:19:20 buddy I've seen it for the last
01:19:22 number of years and as much as I've tried to
01:19:24 ignore some of these people i i eventually you know decide that i want to respond to some of 0.95
01:19:29 their allegations and and i make them look stupid and they come back for more the next day this is 0.98
01:19:34 they thrive on attention and only negative attention or positive whatever they can get 0.99
01:19:38 and uh it's best just to probably ignore them i know it's always going to be somebody who's
01:19:44 going to criticize you for something you know yeah i try to stay away from drama you know
01:19:51 just go ahead with my everyday life yep all you can do friend
01:19:58 so what's next java you're out working hard you're uh supplying providing for your family
01:20:05 you're still trucking away in the same truck you had in ottawa what's next for you where are you
01:20:10 you're just going to keep working away i don't intend to retire anytime soon before let's say i
01:20:18 hit 100 because in this job you cannot retire you know hey i also want to thank you for your help
01:20:31 what you gave me in january when i was facing that really bad time with my truck because they
01:20:41 couldn't figure out what's the problem and i was just putting money in parts and this and that and
01:20:48 still they wasn't able to find out
01:20:50 and I
01:20:52 really appreciate your help
01:20:53 thank you very much
01:20:56 we try to do that for each
01:20:58 other right when somebody's in need we reach out
01:21:00 we've been blessed
01:21:02 to have such a huge group
01:21:04 of followers here that stood
01:21:06 behind us so that's how we
01:21:08 that's how we treat the people that are
01:21:10 you know we're all right on the
01:21:12 right side of history so
01:21:13 well like you guys were just saying
01:21:16 I mean we have all lost some friends
01:21:18 but we've really found some wonderful friends people that we can count on you know what i mean
01:21:24 and i think that's what it's all about and you know chava for everything that you've
01:21:27 done and sacrificed um that's the least we could do that's the least we could do
01:21:34 did you come to his fundraiser chris did you come to the fundraiser that we did
01:21:38 for a chaba and harold and you were there no i i couldn't tamara we had we had conditions
01:21:44 against each other yes that's right yes we did that was a really really good time it was a good
01:21:52 time and i think they had the hockey game the day before didn't they chapa they did like a hockey
01:21:57 game the day before yeah that's right they also they was filming what for that movie which one
01:22:05 i still don't know when is that gonna come out i don't know how many years like three yeah yeah
01:22:12 It's been a long time.
01:22:13 You know, I should reach out to Trish and find out where that's at.
01:22:19 We did a lot of hours of filming for that with all of us.
01:22:22 They were at my place.
01:22:23 They were at Tamara's place.
01:22:24 They were in Ottawa with us.
01:22:25 They were at your fundraiser.
01:22:27 Everybody got a little bit of an opportunity to speak their piece on that.
01:22:31 And I honestly couldn't wait.
01:22:33 I kind of, so much time has passed now I forgot about it.
01:22:36 So, yeah, if we have to reach out to Trish and find out where they're at with that,
01:22:39 it would be interesting.
01:22:39 i wonder if she's holding on to it for the five-year anniversary maybe but uh we'll find out
01:22:45 i don't know i had to pop out for a second but chava does have he has filed a lawsuit
01:22:52 against um is it the ottawa city police exactly or i'm not sure who it is but yes rcmp the
01:23:00 the ottawa police yeah rename an officer who's actually the one who's naming that video
01:23:08 good yeah he's also i'm just i just put up if you want to if you want to help chava
01:23:15 um you can donate to get vz at mail.com get a get a vz at mail.com and that
01:23:24 words his legal fees are honestly to help him anyway i never give money to anybody expecting
01:23:30 with any expectations personally but um if you want to help him out there yes so it's it's a
01:23:36 huge expense you know the amount of the amount of time we've spent with with legal troubles and
01:23:41 and every little dollar counts uh it's very expensive a lot of us in the convoy if we had
01:23:48 money in our bank accounts before convoy we sure as hell don't know right chavo
01:23:51 yeah exactly well i had some money saved before the convoy and i was okay with my credit cards
01:24:00 and all that but uh since the convoy my credit cards are still down to zero i never
01:24:05 was able to put back the money
01:24:08 what I have saved in my house
01:24:10 before. That's long gone.
01:24:13 Probably.
01:24:14 If the economy and all this
01:24:16 is going the way it's going,
01:24:18 probably I need
01:24:19 to fill back my credit cards another
01:24:22 150 years.
01:24:25 I will be...
01:24:27 Yeah.
01:24:30 We don't have to worry about it by then.
01:24:31 I'm going with what we have.
01:24:37 Yeah, that's right.
01:24:39 Exactly.
01:24:40 We got a couple of super chats here.
01:24:42 Thank you so much, Peter.
01:24:44 He sent $5.
01:24:45 I know a few dollars is not much,
01:24:47 but I support everything that you all do.
01:24:48 Thank you for being here.
01:24:49 You are sharing your stories and giving us hope.
01:24:51 Thank you so much, Peter.
01:24:54 And then we've got a, just a, just a, no, no words, just 10 bucks.
01:25:01 thank you so much thank you so much bud garrett 33 70 that's uh very kind of you and i did see uh
01:25:08 i did see a recommendation for a book titled tamara in the comments tonight and it was
01:25:13 i think it was brendan i believe it was and it was called yeah justified it was called what
01:25:20 corruption justified that's tasty that's yeah that is i'm gonna put it on the list justified
01:25:28 i think i saw my friend gary put one i'm gonna have my truck on your book cover too again
01:25:36 can you do it from the front now it's from the front yeah i could definitely do that
01:25:43 i do need i do need to think of a good title i mean a good title and good graphics for the book
01:25:49 i mean there's obviously two important things but i was busy just with all the stuff in between
01:25:53 we shouldn't we'll just get our both of our red trucks and we'll park them bumper to bumper
01:25:58 and we'll take it.
01:25:59 That will be nice.
01:26:00 Boom.
01:26:01 Yeah.
01:26:01 Corruption. 0.99
01:26:02 Honestly, your truck will take all the attention.
01:26:05 So I don't know if it's a good idea.
01:26:07 We're still red.
01:26:09 Yeah, still red.
01:26:11 Your Volvo has probably made a lifestyle for your family
01:26:14 just as well as Big Red has made a lifestyle for mine.
01:26:17 So we all drive our trucks with a lot of pride
01:26:21 and you definitely have a lot of pride in here.
01:26:22 I've seen your truck on the road before.
01:26:24 It is a beautiful, well-lit Volvo.
01:26:27 Yes, that's true.
01:26:28 yeah
01:26:28 yeah
01:26:30 we usually keep the show to about an hour and a half
01:26:36 so we're going to wrap it up for the night
01:26:38 we really appreciate having you on tonight
01:26:40 sorry if I keep you guys for too long
01:26:42 no no
01:26:43 it's perfect
01:26:44 an hour and a half
01:26:46 thank you very much
01:26:47 you guys didn't
01:26:49 push me to use this
01:26:52 I did
01:26:53 I had to
01:26:54 I was not good
01:26:56 thank you very much i appreciate that it was it was an honor and a privilege to stand with you
01:27:01 at probably one of the most peaceful and amazing protests in my life and i i can't thank you enough
01:27:07 for taking part in my friend it's been like i said it's been an honor and privilege to stand
01:27:11 with you you've been a genuine person from day one i couldn't be prouder well thank you very
01:27:17 much i feel the same we love you cheers buddy and i love you guys too grateful you guys take care so
01:27:23 always let us know if you need anything all right you bet you very much thank you thanks
01:27:27 it is it's always so hard to listen to those so like i mean it was i mean i feel lucky i was in
01:27:37 jail i didn't have to see that stuff but when i got home and i watched that footage man i bawled
01:27:42 like a baby for two days like just uncontrollably sobbed it was just it was just growing up in this
01:27:49 country and you know that's the stuff that i used to watch on tv that happened in third world
01:27:55 countries and to see our government and our own law enforcement beating you know peaceful protesters 0.68
01:28:02 you know guys like chava that got down and and uh surrendered themselves and they and some of them
01:28:08 did it with glee remember the text messages that were released after um from the rcmp that were at
01:28:14 the chateau laurier 300 and some thousand dollars and taxpayer money went to feed them at the nicest 0.93
01:28:21 hotel in ottawa uh and we get called fucking grifters pardon my language but anyways you 0.99
01:28:27 know they were talking about they couldn't wait to get the jackboots beat the shit out of these 0.99
01:28:32 because it was like a yeah they just built them up like it was they were coming in to save the 0.99
01:28:36 day by beating the shit out of innocent you know canadian peaceful protesters and one day i mean i
01:28:43 I'd love, and I'll throw this back out there to the audience,
01:28:46 if anybody knows an officer that took part in Ottawa
01:28:48 in the enforcement side of it and would love to come on and speak,
01:28:52 maybe you're retired now, maybe you have remorse
01:28:54 or second thoughts about what you took part in,
01:28:56 it would be an honour to just sit down with you,
01:28:59 maybe even off camera or on camera and have a good chat.
01:29:02 I really would love to see some mindset
01:29:05 in what the government led you to believe,
01:29:08 to think that you were doing such a value thing for Canadian society.
01:29:11 that's what my yeah well whatever happens oh shoot we got a chest question for chaba here it
01:29:18 was question for chaba explain what's happening in poland based on his background shoot well we can
01:29:23 that's a great question though what's happening in poland is unconscionable i think it's a coup
01:29:30 personally and the others the book title uh corruption justified okay there you go oh if
01:29:36 it's a winner uh brenda i'm gonna put your name down if it's a winner uh miss brenda sorry did
01:29:42 i say brendan yeah that's okay i want to send i'm gonna buy a hoodie i'm gonna buy a hoodie from
01:29:48 um uh chris and i'm gonna gift you a hoodie if that makes the cut we'll donate the hoodie we
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