House Arrest - House Arrest - Ep. 2 - Origins

00:00:00.000 Thank you.

00:00:30.000 hello everyone

00:00:38.080 hello good evening how is everybody doing

00:00:43.460 we're doing good you had quite a day today i had quite a day today yes we were uh we were

00:00:53.920 pulling air seeders today and uh the inevitable happened a hydraulic connection point on the wing

00:01:00.920 of the air seeder i was pulling busted clearly off and the wing of the air seeder folded out

00:01:05.560 onto the highway so thankfully it was it happened at the right time and it was something that was

00:01:11.280 was completely unpreventable and we we had help right away and if anybody's seen big red sitting

00:01:16.460 on the side of the highway in swift current saskatchewan today that's what we happened we

00:01:20.260 got her back to the yard safe. And early, early end to a long productive day that I thought I had.

00:01:27.180 Yes. Wow. Pretty exciting life you're leading for somebody on house arrest.

00:01:32.020 As long as I have a schedule printed, I am good to go. And I feel bad for my probation officer

00:01:36.640 emailing in my last, you know, requests and changes in my deadlines. And it's been quite

00:01:41.660 the, quite the last couple of weeks, but we're getting there. It's a, it's just, but I could be

00:01:46.300 sitting at, you know, it could be sitting at home and I feel, you know, it is what it is.

00:01:51.020 So how are you making out under your house arrest? It's your conditions are a lot worse.

00:01:55.740 Yeah. Well, I had my third meeting with my probation officer today, which is still really

00:02:00.160 funny to still say that anyways. Um, I, I quite like her. She's, she's nice enough. I think she's,

00:02:06.340 you know, she is just trying to do her job. It's, it's a bit, my situation seems to be a little bit

00:02:10.520 different than yours, which is very odd. Um, I think we talked a little bit about this before

00:02:15.020 that you are allowed leisure time

00:02:16.960 and I'm only allowed

00:02:19.060 necessities of lifetime and

00:02:20.980 which is fine. Maybe

00:02:22.960 your probation officer likes you better than mine.

00:02:26.640 Hey guys,

00:02:27.300 we got some, sorry, I just

00:02:28.960 wanted, we got Ottawa, Alberta Vincent.

00:02:30.980 Hi, Ottawa. He's coming from Ottawa,

00:02:33.060 Canada.

00:02:34.900 We just had some more for months.

00:02:37.860 I'll try and answer some

00:02:38.980 questions as we go here, but Dean, it was

00:02:40.860 actually an old case drill today and

00:02:42.900 and we kind of feared when we left the yard today that it was going to be a trouble trying to make

00:02:47.620 it it's an old old old one so oh i see tamara's frozen

00:02:57.620 i'm hoping you can hear me there guys let me know in the comment section

00:03:00.900 good evening everyone tabor alberta saskatoon look at that

00:03:12.860 british columbia's in the house ontario nice

00:03:17.780 so we have just about 500 people all in here we can hear you tamara's having a little bit

00:03:26.360 technical issues so she just bounced out looks like it's a chris show for a minute you'll have

00:03:31.240 to bear with me and my uh my chatting here you see some good people in here tomorrow we'll be

00:03:38.840 back shortly okay there she is you know wouldn't you know it uh the week after we started doing

00:03:46.040 this show i started having problems with my computer so hopefully it's gonna hang on for

00:03:50.280 a little while sorry about that guys but you could keep going so that's good well we got lots to talk

00:03:58.040 about i guess it's better if we talk together yes that's right anyways where was i um yes thank you

00:04:04.040 all for joining us tonight on house arrest uh we're gonna have tom and danny here later on we're

00:04:08.840 gonna be basically discussing um our origin stories why we got involved and how we all met

00:04:14.040 hi jerry somebody from innisfail quebec oh i had my second french lesson today

00:04:20.600 oh how's that going yeah it's going awesome i have a really great instructor i'm really

00:04:24.920 really pumped about it so um a couple things we wanted to just start off with here um i just

00:04:30.280 wanted to say a big thank you to our good friend ruby who has taken on the big job of moderating

00:04:36.920 our chats um i know there were some issues last week um also just want you guys to know that we

00:04:42.520 We have adopted a zero tolerance policy here.

00:04:45.640 I'm all about free speech, but I'm also, if you want to be rude and obnoxious and aggressive,

00:04:51.000 then you can speak freely somewhere else.

00:04:54.200 So we're going to have a zero tolerance policy.

00:04:56.660 That's one thing we've always tried to do is to maybe maintain respect and our integrity

00:05:02.260 at all times.

00:05:02.960 And we're going to ask the same of you.

00:05:05.140 So she's got a big job.

00:05:07.540 We definitely welcome lots of dialogue, but we just want to do it respectfully.

00:05:11.980 there she is hey Ruby thanks so much yeah there's one thing I have open dialogue and then there's

00:05:19.320 there's another point to be rude and inconsiderate and this show is not for drama or how should we 0.98

00:05:25.260 word about her a shit show we don't want a shit show we want something that everybody can join 0.99

00:05:29.840 in and watch and enjoy so that show will be after house arrest is over we'll start that show after 1.00

00:05:36.740 this is over is that the six months of probation or curfew afterwards i think so right yeah

00:05:42.020 that's right exactly so anyways a big thank you to ruby for helping us out um and for all of you

00:05:47.060 for obviously pointing pointing out some things that needed to be fixed uh we are still a work

00:05:51.940 in progress here as you can tell but we're getting there slowly but surely um and yeah so basically

00:05:58.660 chris i just wanted to take a few minutes and just talk about uh how our appointments are going um i

00:06:05.380 again like i was saying i met with my probation officer today and we finished up our interview

00:06:10.740 where basically what she's doing is a psychological assessment to see if i am going to be a high risk

00:06:17.700 or risk to society uh we drew the informal um unofficial conclusion today that i am not

00:06:26.900 uh but you probably had very something very similar a very intense um interview where they

00:06:32.660 asked about your parents and your upbringing and your drug use and uh any mental illnesses that

00:06:39.380 you may have been diagnosed with at some point or another that was on monday yeah i had a one

00:06:45.140 hour meeting with her in sufker and i'm allowed to drive from the farm to sufker and uh yeah that

00:06:49.540 was just a questionnaire that she had to fill out and mine seems like she's a nice lady she

00:06:54.820 doesn't seem like she's um a supporter but she doesn't seem like she's a hater and she's just

00:06:59.700 doing your job and but but listening and we had a really you know kind of a good conversation

00:07:06.420 uh it was all about peers uh what my peers and how they influence me and if they still influence

00:07:12.740 me now and for all accounts i act on my own i don't act because somebody else tells me to do

00:07:19.220 something i act on my own my feelings are my own you know when you look at twitter there and you

00:07:23.620 see the the leftist trolls and it's always in their bio that their feelings are their own and

00:07:28.340 no one else's i'm kind of the same so we had a good conversation um then we had a good dialogue

00:07:33.700 and i i hope you know we've got quite a few more meetings to go through as you probably do too and

00:07:39.060 we will continue to keep that dialogue open and have you um organized your community service yet

00:07:48.580 i'm working on that right now uh my community service will probably be held in my village of

00:07:53.300 of Stuart Valley, Saskatchewan.

00:07:55.220 The councillors all got together at their monthly meeting here a week or so ago,

00:08:00.040 and we're trying to think of things that Chris Barber could do around the community.

00:08:03.740 And community is really important to me.

00:08:06.080 So, you know, 100 hours, it'll go really fast.

00:08:09.860 There's lots to do around there.

00:08:12.060 And, of course, I'm part of the volunteer fire department in Stuart Valley, too.

00:08:15.180 So we'll be, you know, there's lots of stuff to do, like sweeping out the fire hall,

00:08:18.520 getting the fire trucks ready.

00:08:19.520 Every time we have a fire, somebody's got to go through the equipment

00:08:21.740 and make sure that it's up to date and ready to go all the trucks are filled up the pumps are filled

00:08:25.240 up so yeah there's lots nice that's good i will be yeah i uh i had a meeting with my church

00:08:34.220 yesterday so i've got every tuesday i'll be going and i should be able to get about five hours in

00:08:39.380 i'm going to do things like help with maintenance and filing um they're looking for a bass player

00:08:45.120 and a drummer on the worship team so if i could figure out how to play bass i'll join the worship

00:08:49.860 team i'm really excited well you were just at that church we just did the jccf event before

00:08:54.820 our sentencing at that church and it's such a great great church uh i love the people there

00:08:59.940 we have a fantastic pastor so and then tomorrow morning at 10 30 i've got a an appointment with

00:09:06.500 a local charitable organization and i don't want to mention it just in case people want to call and

00:09:12.020 badger them but uh so hopefully i can get some hours in there and yeah so it's you know i feel

00:09:17.780 like i've had an incredibly busy couple of weeks for someone that's just supposed to be sitting

00:09:22.100 around at home doing nothing you know so yeah i have found myself though vegging it on the couch

00:09:30.020 a little bit more than i normally do and last night i for some reason was working in the shop

00:09:34.500 maintenance and trailers and i didn't feel good i had a wave of nauseous hit me maybe i ate something

00:09:38.420 that i shouldn't have ate and i watched movies on the couch all evening with my wife so it was a good

00:09:42.740 hmm nice yeah we definitely can kill time yep i mean i mean the funny thing is is when unless

00:09:49.860 duane and i are traveling and doing something um uh you know like going to play a concert or

00:09:55.620 going to an event or something i mean we really don't do much any anyways i mean i hardly ever

00:10:00.980 leave the house anyhow so i mean this is not really i i we are taking an application to the

00:10:07.380 judge actually i've talked to lawrence today to try and get permission from the judge so that i

00:10:11.940 can pick up and drop off my grandsons from school so that was a new um a new thing today

00:10:18.660 so hopefully uh that'll be granted but he thought we could maybe just take that to the crown and

00:10:22.740 get the crown prosecutor to um to grant that request so hopefully i can't see that being an

00:10:29.780 issue but you know it'd be my daughter is a registered nurse so she's works works um shift

00:10:34.980 work and that was just one of the things that i did often was to help her get the kids to school

00:10:39.540 So, you know, that one thing would be nice.

00:10:42.000 I think they should be able to.

00:10:43.300 I mean, I have a provision in mind too.

00:10:45.220 Our land locations are all listed on my order.

00:10:47.740 So I, you know, mom and dad, they need help and I'm able to run up and give them a hand

00:10:52.680 when they need it.

00:10:53.440 And especially when winter coming and I get to clean their yard with snow, that's usually

00:10:57.580 my, my, my deal with them is we, we look after our parents and they look after us.

00:11:03.380 I don't usually make it out to the horses out there to feed them their morning bucket

00:11:06.480 of oats without my father beating me out there.

00:11:08.480 so feed the liberals well we made it through week three anyways week three of house arrest so far

00:11:16.640 so good only what uh 53 more to go um i just i brought some things up i brought some things up

00:11:27.360 oh my gosh my computer is just losing its mind okay what do we have we're on episode three right

00:11:35.600 now and we will be able to do 24. Yeah, it has been good. I just pulled some of these letters out

00:11:47.520 that I received. Actually, I think this one I got when I was in jail and it was from a little

00:11:56.080 girl named Alanis who was eight and her brother Xavier who was age four and it's so cute.

00:12:06.080 it says thank you for fighting for everyone's freedom god will be by your side and god will

00:12:10.800 protect you from the enemy with god everything is possible stay strong we are praying for you

00:12:16.720 every step of the journey love alanis and xavier i got boxes and boxes of these we have to uh

00:12:25.600 we've got to get them out and this was another one i got this was uh february the 15th

00:12:31.520 so the day after the invocation of the emergencies act and i got um uh this is from one family

00:12:38.880 so vincent um drew this look at that picture of that semi truck can you see that

00:12:46.720 yes dear truckers thank you for fighting for my freedom god bless truckers god bless canada

00:12:53.120 love vincent um looks like he is eight years old um and then his brother john

00:13:00.800 sent another one that says thank you truckers god bless you love john age six nice

00:13:10.480 and this is all from the same family obviously um dear truckers thank you truckers god bless you

00:13:16.080 truckers god bless canada canada strong and free i pray for you i love you we support you truckers

00:13:23.600 and this is from joseph who's age 10 and he drew a picture of justin can you see that

00:13:31.200 oh nice and this last one is also from joseph and it says thank you truckers we pray for you

00:13:38.320 every day thank you for our freedom god bless you truckers and glad god bless canada and then he do

00:13:44.800 a picture of the policeman looking at you truckers it says policemen looking at you truckers

00:13:53.360 he's a pretty good little artist and then this is from their mother all you dear courageous

00:14:00.400 truckers and support teams may god bless you all a thousand times over you have made me proud of

00:14:06.720 our country proud to be a canadian it is so heartening after years of feeling surrounded

00:14:11.920 by people who have been tricked into surrendering their freedoms people who are indifferent or even

00:14:17.120 angry when others exercise their freedom it is so heartening to hear about the unified peaceful

00:14:22.880 joyful loving way that you all are standing up for the freedom of all canadians i wish that my

00:14:28.800 parents and nine siblings and i were there with you you are witnesses changing hearts and that's

00:14:33.760 the best the only way to combat evil i know that god and our lady are standing at the head of the

00:14:38.960 convoy with you and that they are blessing you for your sacrifice and courage god make our land

00:14:44.560 glorious and free love and prayers for you all isn't that beautiful how do people find our

00:14:52.560 addresses i know when you got home from from being incarcerated for 20 some days you had a stack and

00:14:57.600 i've got a basement that is full of things that people have sent me but it's amazing to see the

00:15:03.120 resources that people will search into to uh to get addresses and mail things to support me

00:15:08.960 this basement is full. I wish people could see the amount of stuff that I have

00:15:12.200 no room left on the walls.

00:15:15.280 I know I've got, I've got boxes and boxes, boxes and boxes.

00:15:19.780 And there's so many great stories in there. So I want to try and pick some out.

00:15:24.180 This was one that we got actually on the way. You can tell,

00:15:26.860 cause it sat in the, in the big red there. I don't know if you remember this one.

00:15:31.640 Oh yeah. Uh, but I think we got that, uh, in Ontario somewhere.

00:15:36.780 thank you truckers and uh this sat in big red for a look at this like look at that

00:15:44.540 yeah i mean it was just amazing i was cleaning the children i think i was cleaning the kitchen

00:15:51.660 up here a year or two ago something like that and i pulled one of the cabinets out to clean

00:15:55.900 them burn underneath it and in there was two big two foot by two foot murals from a couple

00:16:00.780 kids and i believe it was quebec that did some drawing on it i think they're just down around

00:16:05.260 the computer here but i could have to see if i could find them but it was a surprising thing to

00:16:09.820 find when you didn't expect it yeah well there's so many i know that i get that just i just read

00:16:16.700 them and i'm just burst into tears because they're just the stories are so beautiful and people are

00:16:21.260 so grateful and you know it really meant a lot to them so it's a stack of stuff yeah oh my childhood

00:16:34.140 matters thank you truckers hammer down just need the three of them here oh wow

00:16:43.420 my body my choice oh wow that's awesome

00:16:50.460 i'm a part of the fringe minority i love it

00:16:54.140 no kidding the children um well danny got ahold of me he's running a little bit late um um getting

00:17:08.300 home from work i see tom is backstage tom is actually joining us from dc uh tonight which

00:17:15.980 is kind of cool he flew down there yesterday so we'll do a catch up with him and um obviously

00:17:21.980 when danny gets here we'll get started on the origin stories hey tom hey i hope you can hear

00:17:28.300 me okay okay yes we can oh good good good yeah i'm in my hotel room in dc i'm about 1.4 kilometers

00:17:36.540 from the white house and uh you know like we we been talking about i was going to try and broadcast

00:17:43.980 from the white house uh it just it wasn't going to work like i went there yesterday took a bunch

00:17:50.380 of pictures and uh i went to the vietnam war memorial i went to the lincoln memorial like

00:17:58.140 just incredible sites here and you know i highly recommend if you have a chance to go to washington

00:18:04.780 dc go to washington dc just it's so rich in in its history sorry i've been kind of talking all day i'm

00:18:13.740 I'm at a conference here in, in DC.

00:18:16.920 Um, but I didn't want to miss the episode.

00:18:19.200 So this is a good thing.

00:18:20.280 And, and, you know, I, I wanted to be in front of the white house, but you know, 0.70

00:18:26.220 this is going to have to do in the hotel.

00:18:27.940 So that's totally fine.

00:18:29.700 It would have been a great backdrop though.

00:18:32.100 Oh, for sure.

00:18:33.840 President Trump was handing out a trick or treat things to the kids today on,

00:18:38.400 on the white house grounds.

00:18:39.300 So that would have been pretty cool.

00:18:40.380 One of these days we get to meet, that'll be, yeah, I gotta say though,

00:18:47.100 like it's an incredible, like if you're into history, then you appreciate history.

00:18:51.540 It's so rich in history.

00:18:53.700 This city, they really, really strongly capture it, but I will say, uh, Chris,

00:18:59.080 I, I could be wrong, but I think you went to Berlin Reese.

00:19:04.160 Uh, you did a trip to Europe, uh, with Harold Jocker, right?

00:19:08.200 Yep.

00:19:08.580 We went over to Amsterdam.

00:19:09.600 right and Tamara you've been to Europe yeah so I have to say like Washington actually reminds me

00:19:18.400 a little bit of uh Berlin in the fact that it's so rich with its country's history you know you

00:19:26.300 go to Canada you go to Ottawa it's a capital city okay I hate to say this but what do you do you

00:19:34.280 know like it doesn't have that deep rich history uh in the same way that some of the other capital

00:19:41.900 cities of other countries have right like canada is still a younger country yes in in relative

00:19:47.780 terms because you know we were still british for a long time uh but the americas like when you come

00:19:54.860 to dc you feel that history and they celebrate it you know with their monuments and i mean these

00:20:01.740 things are incredible like to look at the you know the lincoln memorial yesterday was a huge

00:20:10.920 huge bucket bucket list type of a treat for me to be able to see that um you know to go to the

00:20:19.140 vietnam war like i'm i'm 52 my war growing up was all my heroes on tv that you know fought in the

00:20:26.560 vietnam war type of thing right my war in my lifetime was the afghanistan one but this to

00:20:34.740 get to actually be able to see the vietnam war memorial uh was an incredible experience i it's

00:20:43.100 just that i was a little bit rushed i was trying to get everything in a very short amount of time

00:20:48.000 and i didn't really get to embrace the experience like i was hoping to uh and i just don't have

00:20:53.300 enough time on this trip but i i'm thinking about coming back here in um in the spring we might

00:20:58.840 come together and and do this trip maybe i i don't know but it's uh it's an incredible experience to

00:21:05.580 be here in in a place that has such amazing history both good and bad i might add you know

00:21:12.520 the the history here is not it's not all great but i don't see them knocking down statues and 0.99

00:21:18.940 covering it in pink paint and ripping ripping things down right in the name of something stupid

00:21:24.860 uh but i do appreciate the fact that i'm actually here it's it's quite uh quite impressive

00:21:31.460 how do you find the um the sense of freedom i know that keith keith and his wife were just down in

00:21:38.060 tulsa a couple weeks ago and he was remarking on just how like different everything is down there

00:21:43.980 now and how the obviousness of the difference even in our freedoms or experiencing freedom it has

00:21:54.780 changed yeah that's been a little bit harder to gauge here in this city right like never forget

00:22:02.060 obviously when you're in a a a federal government city there's a little bit of a bubble around that

00:22:11.500 mentality right so i i don't think it's a city full of your average ordinary americans these

00:22:17.820 are people fully embedded in and ingrained and engrossed in the the politics of the federal

00:22:24.220 government so it's like ottawa i mean the three of us have spent an enormous amount of time together

00:22:31.020 in ottawa uh both at the convoy and during the commission so you you feel that sort of bubble

00:22:38.300 around the the capital of canada and i do feel that a little bit here in ottawa as well and you

00:22:46.060 know at this conference that i'm at it's actually we're talking about blockchain and government

00:22:52.220 policy and all that kind of stuff and how it's going to impact everybody's life and it's it's

00:22:57.740 fascinating to me because a lot of people i met here americans they some heard of the freedom

00:23:03.020 convoy and other people looked at me like no i have no idea what you're talking about

00:23:07.420 and i get that i get that because americans have their hands full with all of the issues that are

00:23:14.240 impacting america right like there's 350 million americans there's about let's say 39 million

00:23:21.200 canadians and a whole bunch of people that have shown up in the last five years so you know

00:23:26.260 bringing the number to somewhere around 42 million mouths to feed in canada i mean i think

00:23:32.980 that's probably about the same as the state of probably california right so it's it's just it's

00:23:41.780 different and they've got very different problems here because i asked them we talked about it

00:23:47.540 and and they're fully fully engrossed in their own issues but i will say i'm happy to hear

00:23:54.340 a lot of people i met have a lot of experience in canada like they're americans like i met this

00:24:01.140 great politician in utah really really lovely lady uh she spent four years living in edmonton

00:24:07.780 you know her one of her children was born in edmonton but she's here back in america

00:24:12.180 and she's an elected official and um so there is this connection you know between canada us

00:24:20.660 but you know canada canada's canada we watch everybody else i think canadians are very worldly

00:24:27.700 i think they pay attention to what's going on outside of the borders america is the greatest

00:24:32.980 show on earth they don't really have a need to look outwards you know i always think of america

00:24:38.740 like a fishbowl like the fish has this beautiful aquarium let's say and it's swimming around it's

00:24:44.020 like life is great why do i care what's on the other side of the glass the rest of the world is

00:24:49.460 looking at how how interesting the fish is right so that's kind of how i compare it but i met some

00:24:56.420 really amazing people um just genuine happy american citizens that are interested in the

00:25:06.180 direction that their their governments are going in just in the same way that we are

00:25:10.980 so it's a little bit discouraging or disheartening when you see these sporting events

00:25:15.540 and you know last last year we saw people booing when the national anthem came on because of you

00:25:22.500 know the elbows up crowd and and to me i found that particularly frustrating because of the

00:25:28.260 relationship between the canadian military and the american military and how how closely they've

00:25:33.700 worked together during you know both wars in afghanistan and iraq and to see us get you know

00:25:41.540 where canadians would actually boo the american national anthem i i felt was so distasteful

00:25:46.900 so disrespectful and and just terrible and it's a disconnect though right like the disconnect

00:25:54.180 disconnect has been brought to you care of our government our government and this information

00:25:59.140 and the managing and the conditioning of society that we've i watch cbc and ctv every morning on

00:26:04.820 the tv here when i'm doing my office stuff i see it but i'm awake to what that what they're doing

00:26:09.860 yeah and there's a lot of people that i know good farmhand neighbors of mine that are so

00:26:15.320 their tv plays on the on the news uh all day long and the first thing we'll get into a

00:26:20.600 confrontation about will be donald trump because cbc yeah it's sad yeah because people can't think

00:26:26.020 for themselves anymore yeah but you spend a lot of time in the states right chris because of you

00:26:31.460 know all the the trucking that you do the delivery like the relationships you must have built over

00:26:36.460 the years so you're you're seeing it from a much more unique perspective than i am um and maybe

00:26:43.060 tamara i don't know but you know you spend a lot of time in the united states i was 21 and i started

00:26:49.800 when you're you're your legal age to drive a commercial vehicle you have to be 21 so i drove

00:26:54.380 in canada from 18 to 21 and then as soon as my birthday hit i was thankful enough that i had a

00:27:00.940 couple old school trackers old delbert zacharias and stan molex those two old boys took me under

00:27:05.680 their wing and taught me what i needed to know although those were the back in the days of paper

00:27:10.640 log books and you know you'd do 15 hours on the first day when the logbook said you could do 10

00:27:15.600 and we did some serious trucking back today that's why i said when i'm talking with jonathan when

00:27:19.920 we're doing trucking stories i'm like you you got nothing buddy we've been there but i see a huge

00:27:27.600 you know what one thing that i've always kind of questioned was when trucking in the us was

00:27:31.360 that american flag is always standing proud the patriotism in the u.s was always there

00:27:36.560 and i always felt like canada kind of lacked that compared to the u.s when it come to how

00:27:40.800 high they held their flag and and in their country and it's not that canadians aren't patriotic i

00:27:46.240 mean we're all just complacent and quiet want to get along but we never did it to the extent of

00:27:52.080 what what i saw in the u.s until when we went on that 4 000 kilometer journey across this country

00:27:57.840 to ottawa and then i seen it and then it was it was full front and center yeah and you know what

00:28:05.040 let's not forget that after the freedom convoy in ottawa the americans had their own convoy that

00:28:12.420 went to washington dc the people's and the people's convoy right and i think maureen steel

00:28:18.280 um you know i i like to think that maureen steel was kind of like the tamara leach of of america

00:28:24.920 on that convoy i could be wrong on that but i i've spoken to to her i know tamara you've spoken to her

00:28:31.480 that was back in the days when you and i couldn't talk to each other so right so but i i think you

00:28:39.560 know the americans they don't do anything halfway you know and and for the first time you know

00:28:46.280 canadians during the the freedom convoy sort of led led the world in in what what was possible

00:28:53.320 This is a Canadian thing that inspired even the Americans.

00:28:58.200 And, like, I take some pride in that, that we took a leadership role across the entire world.

00:29:05.180 That, you know, when you can say that something you've done in your country actually inspires America or Americans, I think that's a pretty big deal.

00:29:14.660 And I'm not trying to take anything away from the Americans.

00:29:17.940 it's just that the country of america has a major leadership role across the planet yes and so when

00:29:25.560 you when you can sort of set a high standard a high benchmark for the americans to achieve that's

00:29:31.560 that's pretty amazing you know and um like i i was i was trying to follow the the people's convoy

00:29:39.440 you know i was a supporter from afar not that it made any difference but

00:29:43.260 it it just kind of demonstrates how closely aligned the average american citizen is with

00:29:50.660 the average canadian citizen you know and i think that that's we're cousins it's an important one of

00:29:56.800 the i think one of the shocking things about about the freedom convoy and the way that

00:30:00.980 the reaction from around the world is we're typically not leaders and stuff like that i

00:30:06.360 mean if the united states gets big brother we get big brother canada the united states gets you know

00:30:11.640 american idol we get canadian idols so i mean movements like this typically don't come out of

00:30:17.020 of canada and i always very affectionately call it the most peaceful and polite protest of all time

00:30:23.200 because you know that's typically who we are or what we used to be known for anyway i don't know

00:30:28.680 if we're known for being too polite and nice anymore but uh back then we still were anyways

00:30:33.020 but yeah you're right exactly and i think i i alluded to that last week like you know i grew

00:30:38.120 up watching this patriotism in the states and how much pride they had in their flag and in their

00:30:43.880 institutions and and i was a little envious i mean i felt like i was proud to be canadian but i

00:30:49.720 didn't see that kind of passion um from canadians about their flag or about their country so but

00:30:57.400 i mean and it wasn't just the united states it was the whole world i'll never forget tom quagan

00:31:01.880 running down with a cell phone to show me pictures, um, of a convoy in Bolivia, you

00:31:07.520 know, and, uh, I think there was a donkey and a cart in it and stuff like it was, uh,

00:31:13.120 old, uh, VW, uh, buses and stuff like that.

00:31:17.500 So it was, yes, it was unusual for something like that to, to, to originate from Canada.

00:31:25.000 And you know what, Tamara, as many times as we've driven back and forth to

00:31:28.220 ottawa in the last couple years for trial those that highway is still adored with adorned with

00:31:34.040 flags yeah to this day all the way across and for those of you that are listening on highway 17 in

00:31:39.760 ontario or highway number one anywhere in this country that's what we love to see i love nothing

00:31:45.480 more when i see a canadian flag i know our country's in turmoil right now and there's a lot

00:31:49.980 going on but i think it's uh it's centralized around one major city in this country that seems

00:31:54.680 to be doing very good at dividing us last while and if we could just find a way to get rid of that

00:31:59.440 not the city but the divide well and you know i think one thing i think we'll all remember

00:32:04.800 justin trudeau very early on in his um prime ministership said that canadians have no core

00:32:10.920 identity and i would argue the fact that we proved them wrong the freedom convoy showed

00:32:17.700 the canadian identity and that was supporting each other uh all the donations that we received

00:32:23.880 of food and i'm not talking about monetary donations i mean like you know if we went out to

00:32:27.960 the farm there was reefer reefers and trailers full of everything from like chapstick to tampons to

00:32:35.000 earmuffs prime rib roasts you know what i mean like dog food and diapers anything you needed

00:32:42.040 and so that to me was who what our core identity is because deep down i think we care about each

00:32:48.520 other um like you've said before tamara we blew that stereotype away where the government's saying

00:32:53.800 hey you need to hate quebec quebec is against the rest of canada when when you said it yourself when

00:32:58.600 somebody was standing on wellington with a quebec flag hugging somebody from alberta with an america

00:33:03.880 with an alberta flag we blew that stereotype away right there and we knew i knew right then and there

00:33:08.760 that it was it wasn't the people that are divided necessarily it's the government and the uh the

00:33:13.880 media that did continue this yeah yeah and you know i i remember there was an american convoy

00:33:20.600 trying to get into canada to come to ottawa to join us to join in with us and they were stopped

00:33:27.240 at the border and and turned back to america and i remember distinctly remember like thinking i hope

00:33:34.040 that they can get into canada get into you know as far as close as possible to us and this was

00:33:41.560 like in the first few days that they were trying to get in we kept hearing about this great

00:33:46.040 american convoy but they were i believe turned away at the border but you know i remember

00:33:51.800 seeing hybrid uh there was a black and white hybrid canada u.s flag uh that somebody was

00:33:59.080 was waving on their truck you know because i think this was when we all said you know borders be

00:34:06.520 damned uh we're north americans and and this does impact all of us we're people first right

00:34:12.920 and and to see the support from the americans and us supporting the americans 0.98

00:34:18.040 you know was was i think a pretty pretty special thing and you know i grew up in a border town

00:34:25.800 in niagara falls ontario and you know i i hope my dad's not watching this but you know as teenagers

00:34:32.760 we would go cross border we we go over to this place called club exit uh on weekends you know

00:34:39.620 we were all underage drinkers drinking you know watered down beer and stuff like that but

00:34:45.100 you know i did a sporting tournament i played basketball in a tournament against the american

00:34:51.800 high schools uh we did this once a year and it was like when you go to america and you play in

00:34:58.100 a sporting event event you know even you know you're maybe a 16 17 year old kid you're thinking

00:35:04.700 where am I like I feel like I'm in professional sports here like I'm a pro athlete you know it's

00:35:10.280 it's an incredible thing and that's to the heart of the patriotism that Americans have they celebrate

00:35:15.720 every moment they celebrate within their communities their their cities and it's a special

00:35:22.280 kind of unique thing i think to americans and i never experienced that until i got to ottawa

00:35:28.400 i never had that i never had that experience like they did have you ever been in the states

00:35:33.020 on the 4th of july no no it is absolute and i've done this many times trucking across the united

00:35:40.320 states traveling in in the u.s on the 4th of july and it is insane the amount of fireworks

00:35:46.940 everywhere you look in the interstates it is it's unbelievable and it's really something to see

00:35:53.500 i never yeah yeah i i i could only imagine what that would be like and you know i study history

00:36:02.960 because of the military right and uh so i i understand the relationships militarily i mean

00:36:09.540 i was trained by american british canadian officers you know and officers from quebec a

00:36:15.640 of a lot of good friends so you know i got that that perspective on how we all do that knowing

00:36:22.040 that our rich history between america britain canadian troops in in in wars past and so i

00:36:32.920 guess for me it was really disheartening when when i saw last summer or during the last election

00:36:37.960 people booing the american national anthem at a sporting event i i thought it was very

00:36:44.200 unbecoming of canadians what about i never thought i'd look to see the day that canadians would do

00:36:49.140 that i mean yeah what about the other night at the blue jays game when one of our canadian

00:36:53.740 singers the the anthem no yes we're making it up as we go where where's the outrage against this

00:37:00.960 and i know i know i've seen a little bit of outrage but that guy should be embarrassed that's

00:37:04.920 not yeah but there's no consequences and this is the problem i mean they can just get up there and

00:37:11.060 do that butcher our national anthem change the words and do whatever they

00:37:14.900 want but I mean yeah unfortunately our government is encouraging this stuff not

00:37:20.420 you know I mean our national anthem is our national anthem and I mean we've

00:37:24.980 seen people ruin their careers over the national anthem so I just I don't know

00:37:30.620 why he would do that I mean it's you know think what you will about Canada I

00:37:34.880 know we all are disappointed in a lot of things but I mean we have to hang on to

00:37:39.200 some things that are sacred and you know leave that at leave the anthem alone is that's what i

00:37:45.920 think yeah you know it was a sporting event let people like let people relax and enjoy the sporting

00:37:53.200 event you don't have to turn everything into politics what do you think would happen if an

00:37:58.800 american stood up and sang the american anthem the wrong way or changed it to fit their purpose

00:38:05.120 what do you think would happen in that case yeah there'd be outrage in hell to pay there would be

00:38:11.360 hell to pay so yeah yeah you don't do that you know like the the national anthem of your country

00:38:20.240 your flag is not meant to be your little personal pet project where you get to

00:38:26.480 to weigh in on the politics because you have a privileged platform because you're a celebrity

00:38:31.120 a musician or an actor or something like that like let people watch their game keep your politics out

00:38:37.680 of it you were hired to sing this country's song it's it's unifying rallying cry not to instill

00:38:46.160 your politics into our national anthem by changing the words to fit your worldly view your job was to

00:38:52.800 sing the song you had one job and you failed spectacularly in that job and you should be

00:38:58.240 ashamed of yourself for doing that but very disappointing very you know well hopefully

00:39:05.600 they don't uh keep continue to do carry on this wave i think we've got what two more games left

00:39:10.400 now jays are doing good i have to say i'm impressed that that is you know come on boys bring it home

00:39:19.200 bring it home wasn't that pierre polyev's uh tagline one of it one of his many slogans for

00:39:32.600 his campaign so anyways well why don't we get into it here chris um i think i think i'll start

00:39:40.100 with you if you don't mind i mean i know i wanted to talk a little bit about our origin stories

00:39:44.480 today um i know probably a lot of people here have heard these stories numerous times but a

00:39:49.280 lot of people haven't and i think they're all kind of curious um how we all came to meet and so i

00:39:55.920 mean you you're kind of the guy that started it all well no i don't want to say that because that's

00:40:02.480 well yes you weren't the guy that started it all you were just you became the focal point

00:40:08.080 of the beginning of of the freedom convoy with i would like to say that that i was the start of

00:40:14.800 the truckers uh i was the one that did a video on january 7th from a parking lot in jamestown north

00:40:21.540 dakota being completely angry and pissed off at the direction of our of our government being that

00:40:28.060 guy that crossed the borders into the u.s all the time and i would go into north dakota and i would

00:40:32.800 eat at restaurants and I wouldn't have to worry about a mask or a COVID vaccine passport to be

00:40:38.400 able to eat at that restaurant. And I think I hit my threshold on that, but I think I hit my

00:40:43.940 threshold. One of my thresholds was on October 1st, 2021, the province of Saskatchewan, after

00:40:50.300 saying that they would not implement COVID vaccine mandates, implemented it. And I'd been the guy

00:40:57.040 working through the COVID, through the pandemic for the previous, you know, two years or something

00:41:02.480 like that and and putting up with that i mean there was times when you know as an over-the-road

00:41:07.940 trucker we weren't allowed to go into tim hortons or mcdonald's and grab a cup of coffee so you

00:41:12.500 would have to stand in the drive-through lineup with passenger vehicles stand there and order

00:41:17.320 at the window and or and stand at the at the window and pick your food up and i did that

00:41:21.820 multiple times bathrooms were something that we couldn't find for a number of months uh so the

00:41:27.620 great outdoors was your bathroom. It was tricky. It was really tricky, but we kept going and we

00:41:32.680 kept this country moving. And then when, you know, Justin Trudeau implemented the January 15th

00:41:38.400 border crossing mandates for commercial drivers, along with that and the arrive scam app,

00:41:43.800 I had my threshold and I did a social media post on January 7th that went a little viral. And I

00:41:49.640 think, you know, on my end, I introduced the trucking, the truckers into some of that. I had

00:41:55.600 of following in the provinces here through, you know, my trucking and what I've done in the last

00:42:00.180 32 years. So introducing that and then it kind of went from there. And then as things progressed,

00:42:09.140 do you realize that there was a lot of other people feeling the exact same with you and some

00:42:12.840 were a little bit more proactive? Some people were protesting the mandates for two years previous to

00:42:18.160 that, actually getting out on foot and protesting their local legislative grounds. And that plan

00:42:24.520 was already established that somebody wanted to do something. And it was just that collaboration

00:42:28.880 of different people coming together. And, uh, I know that's a fight right now in certain social

00:42:33.960 circumstances who started it, who did what I never started anything. I joined in with a whole bunch

00:42:41.400 of like-minded people that had the same idea and felt the same frustration at the direction of our

00:42:47.440 country and our government. And, you know, it's been a wild ride for the last couple of years,

00:42:52.120 but i gotta tell you it's it's one that did you know i don't i'll never you'll never be able to

00:42:57.800 relive it and uh all we can do now is tell tell stories about our influence i guess exactly

00:43:06.600 well and it was um obviously like how i came to meet you was was because of that video and um

00:43:15.080 like i've never really considered myself to be a protester or an activist but after um bill c69

00:43:21.320 and bill c48 and the legislation that was coming down the pipe at that time i mean i was working in

00:43:27.000 the oil patch and i was seeing you know how this was directly affecting people i knew people i

00:43:32.520 cared about friends um families and so i joined just a local group that was rallying every saturday

00:43:39.480 and that's kind of what we did for a while until i mean that that sort of proved that you know

00:43:43.800 nothing was nothing was still changing and then of course uh 2020 hit and um i i just started

00:43:52.040 following stuff very closely i really felt right from the start and a lot of people told me this

00:43:56.520 exact same thing i mean i think at the beginning of the pandemic people were afraid um but everybody

00:44:02.440 it didn't matter if you were like thought it was going to end all of humanity or believe that it

00:44:07.640 didn't exist the one thing that everybody kept saying to me was something doesn't feel right

00:44:14.680 right so something um just uh into from their own intuition was saying something didn't feel right

00:44:21.640 and so i started you know going out on my own obviously uh after the 2016 american election

00:44:27.640 i really stopped watching a lot of mainstream media because it just proved it was all like a

00:44:32.040 bunch of bs because i was that person that got up and watched ctv every morning with my coffee right

00:44:37.000 and just played the loop over um but uh um it was so i was yeah i was going out to these rallies

00:44:44.760 never really you know amounted to too much covet hit my husband and i spent covet in manitoba but

00:44:51.320 it was there that i discovered like trish wood's podcast i started following dr zev zelenko dr

00:44:57.640 david martin brian fire and bridal um and just doing my own research and then also just talking

00:45:05.080 to friends family you know things that were happening in the local community that didn't

00:45:09.800 make sense as far as the mandates and all that stuff was going and i heard some really terrible

00:45:15.560 heartbreaking stories from people and i just got more and more frustrated and

00:45:21.080 uh we were fortunate to get our jobs offered back to us in alberta so we moved back here in november

00:45:26.840 of 2021 um basically dropped all of our stuff i mean when i got home from jail after march or in

00:45:35.800 march like it looked like a couple of college kids were living here because we literally moved into

00:45:39.760 this house a week before christmas had christmas two weeks later was the convoy and the rest is

00:45:45.600 history so um anyways but i was really you know trying to just find a way that i could help and

00:45:52.920 And I mean, it was frustrating.

00:45:54.640 Obviously, it was a really dark time.

00:45:56.320 And then my good friend, Cindy, of course, a lot of local areas had their own kind of

00:46:01.820 private groups, right, where they'd go meet in shops and stuff somewhere.

00:46:06.200 It's hard to believe we even lived like that.

00:46:08.300 But we did, you know, when everyone would leave their cell phone at home and drive out

00:46:11.960 to somebody's shop in the country somewhere.

00:46:15.260 So there was groups like that locally.

00:46:18.240 and um i remember saying to one of the gentlemen here at this meeting one night this is like a

00:46:24.380 week before if that before i called you for the first time chris and cindy introduced me to this

00:46:30.020 other gentleman that was on this committee and um it was his action committee and i looked at him

00:46:35.900 and i said you're gonna want me on your action committee and then a week later we were starting

00:46:40.540 this whole thing um but so my good friend sent me your video and i reached out to glenn carrot

00:46:47.300 actually um because i didn't i'd followed the united re-roll you know a little bit when it

00:46:52.540 had gone out in 2019 and i had just reached out to him over social media to try and find out who

00:46:58.040 this chris barber was and if i could if i could track down his phone number and i did

00:47:05.280 so the rest i still have that book by the way what date was that january 13th this is my note

00:47:13.240 when somebody calls me for a load when they need something hauled i have a notepad that i keep with

00:47:17.760 me and this book is almost full of notes but in this book way back in it is the day that tamara

00:47:24.140 leach called me and i don't know if i could find it right now but this this still has all the police

00:47:29.960 contacts that we had everything is written in this book and i'm i think i'm about five or ten more

00:47:35.740 pages to go before i have to find a new one so it's done me well nice i have i have yours on

00:47:40.920 i still have my notebook with your name on it too oh nice and i was so excited when i found out that

00:47:46.440 you were from saskatchewan right from the same area that i grew up too so anyways that first

00:47:50.360 phone call we hit it off and i knew we were going to be really great friends i just thought i chatted

00:47:55.640 with you for a few minutes and it seemed like you had a good head on your shoulders like get a great

00:47:59.720 sense of humor and that you know you were just left your country and you wanted a better life

00:48:03.400 for your family and that makes me emotional but you know really um i guess that's that was my

00:48:10.040 motivations and and i just i'm so grateful that you know we've just got such a great family now

00:48:16.760 of all the people that we've met um and that have weeded themselves out so and then you know so

00:48:24.200 that's basically how i got involved um about a week i think into the convoy uh this gentleman

00:48:31.080 shows up who all who is some army captain comes out of nowhere uh everyone everyone there you

00:48:39.160 know is saying this guy's a plant he's a fed where did he come from uh anyways and uh i we talked

00:48:47.640 fairly early on after you got there tom i remember and um you were so calm i think you came in and

00:48:55.160 you weren't feeling well already you weren't you were sick no that's chris's fault that's chris

00:49:00.120 yeah i was feeling good until i met chris no you know what i um my story was you know i i i

00:49:12.280 i left social media years before the convoy because i got tired of fighting with people

00:49:18.720 about the same two issues 9 11 building 7 and vaccines okay i just got i got sick and tired

00:49:26.680 of fighting with people so I left all the social media behind so by the time the convoy was starting

00:49:34.420 to become a thing um you know I had quite a difficult time uh in those two years prior to

00:49:42.000 the convoy going so I I was a teacher in a college and I was teaching software and I was doing stuff

00:49:52.480 I was a part-time teacher and I was trying to get a full-time gig because I loved it like I really

00:49:57.560 felt like man I finally found my dream job it's been 10 years now since I've retired from from

00:50:04.100 the military and but what I knew was in the early days of the pandemic that nothing made any sense

00:50:12.340 at all like nothing from day one in fact I have a really good friend of mine who um a friend Dan

00:50:19.720 he's in london ontario i used to train krav maga with him in his club and we stayed in touch over

00:50:25.160 the years and he had told me about two weeks before the first lockdown he's like yeah we're

00:50:31.880 gonna lock down in two weeks because he you know a friend of a friend of a friend kind of a situation

00:50:37.400 in the rcmp in bc knew two weeks before the first lockdown that we were going to do it

00:50:43.640 so what did i do i went to costco and i bought all of your toilet paper so you guys didn't have

00:50:50.200 a chance i had all of it you know lots of toilet paper but i also had yeah and so you know the

00:51:00.280 lockdowns happened i reverted to teaching online for the next 18 months and i start school in

00:51:06.520 september first week of school do the intros and everything and then we get this email from

00:51:11.960 the president of the college saying uh you know make no mistake if you don't get this uh proof

00:51:17.400 of vaccine you don't have a job anymore and so i was like yeah well i don't think so so i do like

00:51:24.840 this big long email i do a reply all including the president vphr person everybody i could think of

00:51:33.480 and you know i basically said you you don't have you you can't even abide by informed consent

00:51:41.960 And in medicine, that is sacrosanct.

00:51:44.540 Like you can, I, listen, a month and a half before the convoy and the Christmas just before

00:51:51.620 the convoy, I spent 10 days in sick kids with my son.

00:51:56.200 He had myocarditis, but it wasn't anything to do with, you know, COVID.

00:52:02.240 My son was born with a congenital heart defect.

00:52:05.340 He got extremely sick.

00:52:08.020 And I, you know, I ate my Christmas dinner that year out of a vending machine.

00:52:11.960 uh at sick kids wearing a mask doing all this stuff you know he got out um probably i think on

00:52:20.220 just after new year's so i spent the whole holiday you know in and out of sick kids

00:52:26.120 and then you know through a bunch of different circumstances i met these people that were

00:52:33.240 loosely tied to canada unity and i had moved to a new area because after i got fired from teaching

00:52:39.900 because I sent that email, which resulted in me getting fired from teaching altogether.

00:52:45.760 I ended up moving to the Kingston area.

00:52:51.080 And that's when then I started going back and forth to SickKids.

00:52:54.300 I spent the holidays at SickKids.

00:52:55.680 And then right after that, I met this really great couple in the Kingston area

00:53:01.560 who then introduced me to this woman named Jane Moffitt.

00:53:05.740 Jane Moffitt was on the board of directors for Canada Unity.

00:53:09.900 But when I met Jane, I had no idea.

00:53:12.140 I'd never heard of Canada.

00:53:13.840 You'd never heard of it.

00:53:15.240 We never discussed it, nothing.

00:53:18.060 She called me on the 30th of June.

00:53:21.340 So you guys had arrived, I think, Friday night.

00:53:24.100 Sunday morning, I'm with my daughter.

00:53:26.280 We just finished having breakfast.

00:53:27.900 Jane called me and said, hey, can you take a call with this guy named James Botter?

00:53:31.900 I'm like, okay.

00:53:33.420 And it was about the convoy.

00:53:34.840 I'm like, sure, if I can help in any way, I will.

00:53:37.660 so I get on the phone with James we have a conversation 15 minutes later he's like can

00:53:43.680 you just come here because I was like two and a half like not even two and a half hours away

00:53:48.580 I said yeah sure so within 15 minutes of that phone call with James I said yeah I'll come and

00:53:54.740 I'll help and I thought I'll go there build a sustainment plan do some spreadsheets find some

00:54:01.720 really smart people hand the the spreadsheets and say okay here's your plan go and I'm gonna go home

00:54:07.300 right i'm fine and you know i got there and the the funny thing is i kept hearing because i didn't

00:54:15.880 know who you guys were i had no idea who anybody was the only person i knew was james botter and i

00:54:21.800 asked um jane if she would come to ottawa that night and she showed up and went home the same

00:54:26.420 day and i'm like i don't know a single person here and when i walked into the ark hotel there

00:54:33.320 was a we were in the conference room of the arc where i met both of you yeah and i walk into a

00:54:38.380 room full of people and bridget belton is is the loudest person in the room and she's yelling at

00:54:44.340 the ottawa police fong lee and lu carvello you know both sergeants with the ops and she's yelling 0.57

00:54:50.980 at them screaming at them basically saying are you gonna are you gonna shoot us in the streets

00:54:55.880 and i just i was like whoa what's going on wow but here's a funny here's a funny piece of trivia

00:55:01.300 I found out when I was in Saskatchewan a week and a half ago, Sean Newman was in that room.

00:55:07.120 He told me that last week.

00:55:08.440 I had no idea he was in the room when I walked in.

00:55:11.360 Anyway.

00:55:12.180 The first week he was there.

00:55:13.880 Yeah, yeah.

00:55:14.860 So I get into the meeting, and I'm listening to this chaos.

00:55:19.340 And, of course, I show up looking like a college teacher amongst a bunch of truckers, right?

00:55:25.380 And they're all looking at me.

00:55:27.580 but here's the funny thing is james botter introduced me to the room i swear to god like

00:55:33.140 i was allied supreme commander western forces europe world war ii general patten you know

00:55:38.800 and i'm like dude i was like a captain right but i just i just i rolled with it because i thought

00:55:46.560 i'm not going to get a second chance to you know anyway this meeting ends and everybody's about to

00:55:54.580 break up and rick do you remember rick he he goes he goes stop everybody wait wait before everyone

00:56:01.020 goes and he points to me goes i want to hear what that guy has to say yeah yeah i've been here i

00:56:07.540 literally went from my car to this room i don't even know where i'm sleeping tonight right so i

00:56:13.060 come up with some song and dance about figuring out what's going on and everything but i will say

00:56:18.340 that that night we we immediately got to work and i and i was trying to find out what the whole

00:56:26.660 footprint of the convoy was and i said okay i i figured out the footprint we didn't even have a

00:56:34.420 map at the ark you guys had a really good setup at the swiss but at the ark we had not even a map

00:56:40.660 and it was almost like a cartoon i'm like see somebody get me a map and uh one of the guys

00:56:46.180 walked in with a big giant map and i said okay let's start looking at where are the hospitals

00:56:53.620 where are the police stations fire stations all the vulnerable infrastructure let's mark that

00:56:59.220 those are now no-go zones let's look at all the routes and i said is there any way we can open up

00:57:06.260 a safety route on all of these on every street that we're in can we open up one safety lane and

00:57:13.300 not a single person in that room said no i'm not going to do that everybody was like yes you're

00:57:19.380 right let's do that so that we can allow all the emergency services people to get to vulnerable

00:57:25.140 people and if they were if there was an emergency they could go and save them there was no pushback

00:57:31.060 like no pushback at all everybody was like yes i think that's right because you didn't have to

00:57:36.900 walk in and be an army guy and say look we need to be safe and responsible because you guys had

00:57:42.260 had already grown that theme for the two weeks prior to even your arrival when you were communicating

00:57:48.260 and doing the meetings i've seen the videos of you guys in the meetings with the police

00:57:52.180 yeah you that that was already the ethos of the convoy safe and responsible so when i showed up

00:57:57.780 meetings with the with the police before we even got there yes and i i've seen some of those

00:58:04.420 meetings after the convoy was over but this was it was just so easy people wanted to be

00:58:10.500 safe and responsible and to do this peacefully and legally and so for me i walked in and i thought

00:58:17.940 you know what i don't think i have a lot here to do i think a lot of the issues that james and

00:58:24.340 originally thought that i would be able to help out with we're going to just naturally resolve

00:58:28.900 themselves and after our first couple of days i realized yeah they did they actually a lot of

00:58:34.660 these things resolve themselves just organically you didn't have to tell people to get organized

00:58:39.620 and could to go get fed or to get fuel it was just happening people knew what to do what was

00:58:48.500 challenging was getting a conversation or any dialogue with the government right that was the

00:58:54.660 impossible feat and so then you know my last bit because i've gone on a little bit long and my

00:59:01.140 earphones are telling me to shut up uh because the battery is going to die i'm being self-centered

00:59:06.660 self-censored by my earphones. Keith and Eva showed up with a team of lawyers. And I remember

00:59:16.460 the day that you two did that first press conference. And I was at the back of the

00:59:21.660 room, Randy Hillier was there, and I was standing with Jack McClellan.

00:59:24.860 Oh, we just lost him.

00:59:30.460 Was that the earbuds?

00:59:32.260 Yeah, it must have been his earbuds.

00:59:33.960 is that better yeah there you go yeah so I ended up I walk over there with Jack and I see the podium

00:59:43.740 and I see Keith and everybody trying to wrangle you guys all in and I looked over at Jack McClellan

00:59:49.980 and I said you see that guy over there you see the lawyers over there that's my replacement I'm going

00:59:54.920 home tomorrow right and and and then and then you guys got up to that podium the two of you and Danny 0.79

01:00:01.900 and joanie and i was so nervous like i was looking at you tamara and i was going holy shit who

01:00:11.200 how did she pull this off like my stomach was in knots and i was just watching and then you know

01:00:18.560 chris you got up uh danny did his thing and you know i just i was i remember saying to tamara

01:00:26.520 before that whole thing because i'm i've been scared endless about speaking in front of groups

01:00:31.440 of people and even doing an interview i i and here i was i said to tamara i'm like

01:00:37.040 i i will be the guy that stands beside this guy the person speaking and i'm not going to be the

01:00:41.680 guy speaking and tamara was was gracious enough to take that role which i'm forever thankful for

01:00:47.120 you took the heat that day and i was just you know what how she kept it together and i remember

01:00:53.440 because i i i specifically remember i said tamara because we had a private conversation and i said

01:00:59.440 tamara i have no idea how you pulled that off because i was nervous at the back of the room

01:01:03.840 watching and you just said to me god yeah it was god and you know it's it's a a really

01:01:11.440 like fascinating thing because i i to this day like like i said i was terrified and i had not

01:01:21.200 stepped in front of a camera at that time that like up until that point i was just there as a

01:01:26.640 supporting actor kind of like being on your podcast and watching that thing i was like holy

01:01:32.720 crap this is pretty monumental this is this is canadian history in the making and i was so torn

01:01:38.720 up and so nervous about it and then you know keith and eva started to get their sort of footing and 0.92

01:01:45.840 i thought you know i'm i'm gonna stick around just a day or two more and see if i can help out a

01:01:53.200 little bit more and then finally i was like okay there might be a role for me here still

01:01:59.680 but i'm going to just wait and see i'm not going to go home if if i can help if i can contribute

01:02:04.320 i'll continue to do so if not i i committed to stepping out of the way and going home if i wasn't

01:02:09.920 helpful if i was a hindrance i was going to go home but if i was helpful i would stay and that's

01:02:15.920 kind of how i looked at it like every single day was like am i helping or hindering and if i'm

01:02:22.240 helping i'll stay if i'm not i'll get out of the way and i think what a lot of people don't know

01:02:26.800 about the inner workings of when we were involved with convoy it was there were so many different

01:02:31.760 groups that were working on taking over what they could and it was a constant fight right from day

01:02:39.120 one here we are inexperienced i didn't know what the hell i was doing tamara you had a better idea

01:02:44.400 i just knew my place was out walking the street somewhere dealing with law enforcement and trying

01:02:48.240 to alleviate some of the issues but i think there's there's a big story behind the amount

01:02:52.960 of people that tried to infiltrate and take over take over yeah i mean the mariette the mariette

01:03:00.560 presser is one thing that we'll get to talking about on another episode but i mean that was

01:03:05.280 essentially uh well that's the one you were just talking about where i felt like i was being thrown 0.89

01:03:11.360 to the wolves with hopes that i was gonna fall on my face and make a complete fool of myself

01:03:17.360 and i remember like you said tom i i walked into that room well all of us did not me but i had been 0.67

01:03:23.520 chosen to be the one that was going to speak first and um and i remember thinking to myself

01:03:29.360 like i should be scared i should be so nervous right now because i've never i don't do well you

01:03:33.920 saw my awkward videos i'm still awkward on video i'm not a video maker and the only reason i started

01:03:40.080 doing videos in the first place in the beginning was because you know all these donations were

01:03:44.560 coming in and i was like these people need to know uh that we're going to be responsible with

01:03:50.160 their money that this entire process with their money is going to be transparent and that it's

01:03:54.320 their money so they have a say they need to be informed so i started making these awkward videos

01:03:59.360 and then i was selected to do that and i just remember honestly walking in there just struck

01:04:05.200 by the fact that i just had this overwhelming sense of calm come over me and and that so that's

01:04:12.000 when when you asked me that i mean there's no other explanation that that wasn't me that was

01:04:15.760 that i should have been freaking out losing my mind you know what about it right we were protected

01:04:22.320 and we were looked after right from the start as i think we still are to this day look i i remember

01:04:27.600 i remember talking to jack about it and i was like not my stomach is turning like i don't know how

01:04:32.880 she's keeping her cool i don't know how she's keeping it together because you know maybe we

01:04:38.240 talk about in this conversation because i did go in front of the camera a couple of times

01:04:42.960 and i can tell you the very first time i stepped in front of a camera at the convoy

01:04:47.760 i had no idea it was live i thought it was recorded and then i noticed out of the corner

01:04:53.200 of my eye there was a little cell phone on and that's when i realized it was live and i almost

01:04:59.040 threw up onto the table in front of me that was the very first time i did a public i almost threw

01:05:05.200 up i could feel it it came up and then i just kind of choked it down and like i i to this day i just

01:05:13.440 i i can't comprehend how you kept it together on that very first one because i i think this was the

01:05:20.240 very first time that on mass the public the media everybody heard from the convoy we hadn't allowed

01:05:29.760 we hadn't we had only invite only media press conferences up until that point

01:05:34.400 except for glenn mcgregor right he just kind of burst in the door

01:05:42.400 yeah what a character there's so many characters but we've you know when i get this comment a lot

01:05:48.320 it was like you have to you you know you're one of the strongest people that i've met to be able

01:05:51.440 to go through the amount of uh abuse that you've been through in the last three three and a half

01:05:56.640 years and still be standing and still have humility or not have lost it and i have witnessed 0.50

01:06:02.360 so many around us lose their marbles per se and go down a dark path and and tamara can contested

01:06:10.900 this too it was it's been an ordeal to watch people that we've stood with not be able to keep

01:06:18.480 their wits about them i guess and but i you know what tamara and i we started out our little part

01:06:24.080 of this thing in January of 2022 and we still stand united to this day you know it it was a

01:06:31.220 pleasure driving back from Ottawa after sentencing having you know Tamara and Duane with my family

01:06:37.160 and stopping and having meals every night and just having that conversation knowing full well when we

01:06:41.800 got back to our homes that we you know let's face it we're not going to see each other in person for

01:06:46.480 12 months that was a little tough it's been reversed i feel like i think i said this maybe

01:06:54.160 last week but i feel like everything uh has just been done a 180 from pre-sentencing because pre

01:07:00.080 sentencing uh we couldn't speak i mean i was under a gag order for a long time i was banned from

01:07:05.200 social media for two years so i couldn't and with the trial hanging over our heads you know obviously

01:07:09.920 we can't we have to be mindful of what some of the things that we say um but yet we could go

01:07:16.320 you know play fundraisers for guy meister in nova scotia or dan hartman or you know go do stuff

01:07:22.080 fundraising stuff head to the ostrich farm uh attend events um and now it's like so i can say

01:07:28.160 whatever i want basically um i have my freedom of speech back but now i can't leave my house

01:07:34.400 so it's kind of awkward or just uh ironic um like how it's just done a complete 180.

01:07:41.600 yeah well you know i want to go back a little bit um to the first time that i had met chris

01:07:49.760 in person yes um because i got there and you know i was trying i was trying to get orientated like

01:07:59.440 i was trying to figure out what was going on who's who and i kept hearing this name chris and

01:08:05.200 i kept hearing this name tamara and i'm like i have no idea who they are but they sound important

01:08:11.360 right and that's all it was it was like okay every time you hear chris and tamara listen because

01:08:17.440 someone's gonna say something i probably need to know and uh i think i don't know which one of you

01:08:23.440 i met first but it was the same thing it was in the ark it was in front of the map we were on

01:08:28.560 opposite sides of the table i remember um chris everyone was saying oh he's sick he's not feeling

01:08:35.840 good and then chris walks in he's got his hoodie over and he's hugging a warm drink

01:08:40.880 and he shakes my hand and i looked at my hand and i'm like i'm gonna regret that yeah

01:08:46.080 um you're welcome natural antibodies and so so then you know you you had like a day or two of

01:08:58.800 recovery and then i remember seeing you on fox news and i remember hearing it and i was like

01:09:08.240 who the hell is that on fox news like who like because i i didn't see it for i heard it and i'm

01:09:14.080 like i don't know who that is and then i looked over and i saw as you i was like holy this guy

01:09:20.560 he's amazing like i'm sorry chris like i can i tell my news story for everybody listening right

01:09:26.640 now i think it's kind of epic and it's just in my world that day driving truck i would listen to fox

01:09:32.720 on the series xm day and night and i was a huge fan of tucker carlson like i always

01:09:38.240 bill o'reilly before that i listened to bill sean hannity and the phone rings and we're

01:09:42.240 somewhere Tamara and I Jonathan that's in the cab phone rings somewhere around Sudbury North Bay

01:09:47.580 somewhere and it's a New York area code on my cell phone and so I answered it and it's I don't

01:09:52.280 remember the name specifically but it's like hi this is Samantha with the Sean Hannity show and

01:09:58.760 we'd like to Sean would like to speak to you tonight so I'm like holy mother of pearl I need

01:10:04.320 to phone my father because he's a huge Fox you know news fan too and and I'm like I'm on Sean

01:10:10.000 newmans tonight like this is amazing and the phone rang 20 minutes later the same area code i answered

01:10:14.820 it and it's like hi samantha with tucker carlson show calling you we'd like to have you on the

01:10:20.080 show tonight i'm like oh my gosh i don't know if i've ever been in the bigger dilemma right now

01:10:24.640 i'm like i really want to do tucker's show but i really want to do sean's show and i know so i

01:10:30.100 thought he was just going to float right out of the truck window he was just on cloud number nine

01:10:34.980 i'm like first world problem sorry sean hannity i can't do your show i've got tucker book right

01:10:43.140 nobody's from the middle of nowhere in alberta right and all of a sudden yeah we got he's on

01:10:48.900 the phone with tucker carlson and brad wall and uh sean hannity oh my gosh who else there's so many

01:10:56.100 i was lucky enough though i got the phone call a week later i did sean hannity show that night and

01:10:59.940 thought oh boy i'm not going to be on tucker's show this sucks you know and and so i did i got

01:11:04.820 the same phone call only it was tucker's crew that phoned first the next time the next week

01:11:08.980 and i booked the show and then sean's crew phoned immediately after that and uh so i was able to be

01:11:14.900 on i think it was on sean sean's show twice and tucker's show once it's been yeah unbelievable

01:11:21.780 for a prairie boy yeah but you know what chris like the reason i highlighted it was like because

01:11:26.500 i'm talking about the pressure of of tamara's uh press conference that you you know you guys all

01:11:32.260 did but i gotta say like i i was like man this guy isn't he is representing this whole convoy

01:11:40.260 with such clear articulate yes you know purpose you you you represented everything that people

01:11:47.620 were in in that convoy to to do and i was like man this guy's impressive like so i i'm gonna say i i

01:11:54.980 think as a as a convoy group we were very very fortunate that we had two people that were the

01:12:01.220 spokespeople for the convoy that could go and deliver the clear message and to be embody what

01:12:09.380 every ordinary canadian was there to do and not to stammer or stumble over your words it was clear

01:12:15.460 it made sense it was human it was canadian and so i remember thinking man like this guy can talk

01:12:23.540 like this guy is representing everything every reason that i'm here you know and you know tamara

01:12:30.260 you got up there and it was like you couldn't be more cool you know like and and so i thought

01:12:36.820 the people that are representing publicly the face of this at least can express how what my

01:12:44.100 heart is feeling as to why i'm here in what what country i want back you know so i thought that

01:12:50.340 was vitally important and uh no i like i so then going back to you tamara you know you we met in

01:12:59.320 the exact same spot in the same room opposite sides of the table but you came over with thomas

01:13:04.120 thomas o'connor yeah and and we were talking and you know i'm we're just it was the first time we

01:13:12.200 met but you brought thomas to meet me and it turns out thomas was like my counterpart to the swiss

01:13:17.780 right basically yeah yeah and and the first thing thomas said and he was like if you do that

01:13:23.580 you're making a major mistake and i was like shit what did i miss what did i miss right i mean tell

01:13:29.800 me so so we hashed it out and you know i had a i had a great working relationship with thomas 0.98

01:13:35.520 you know and and so i started every morning i would like i think twice a day i was going from

01:13:42.360 the arc to the swiss i'd have my meetings with them and then throughout the day or we call

01:13:47.280 text so we were always trying to be coordinated but between me thomas uh danny bolford the the

01:13:56.260 objective was always be safe and be responsible and make sure nobody got hurt and i want to

01:14:03.900 preface this we didn't want the police to get hurt either right you know we had spent a lot

01:14:09.860 of meetings talking about everybody's safety everybody's not just ours you know and we pulled

01:14:19.980 it off I think we pulled it off I honestly think you know why we pulled it off because there was

01:14:24.840 no desire to not do it right but it was all in messaging Tom right yeah we messaged to anyone

01:14:32.560 protesting to keep the peace and keep your head and keep it cool no matter what they throw at you

01:14:37.840 You, you comply, you work with, and, and we noticed that even when police, you know,

01:14:43.300 officers were beating the living daylights out of protesters on our nation's Capitol,

01:14:46.980 that people still kept their wits.

01:14:48.560 They still tried to stand their line, even though most of them didn't have trucks.

01:14:52.200 They didn't have horns.

01:14:53.020 They were there just, it's a Canadian charter right to protest.

01:14:57.600 The only trouble was the government has overlooked the charter for so long and trampled on it.

01:15:03.140 And that's, you know, going back to last week's episode, having Brian Peckford with us, right?

01:15:07.620 you know that was one of the biggest things about ottawa for me as well as working with the vets to

01:15:12.060 know that the last living signature of the bill or the charter of rights brian was there with us

01:15:17.880 trying to defend it 40 years after yeah and i it was important i mean like to be able to even get

01:15:27.680 a meeting with brian was a big honor for me you know and and to be in that monumental moment i

01:15:34.660 think we talked about it last week that monumental moment where you're sitting with one of the the

01:15:40.100 only person alive today in canada that helped give us the charter of rights and you're sitting in the

01:15:46.300 room the first time you ever met him as your charter of rights and freedoms are being taken

01:15:50.420 away from you and not just me but brian's as well and his wife like the irony there you know the

01:15:58.340 irony yeah like we talked about last week that i just the irony of that the very first meeting

01:16:03.220 with him even in the circumstances and um yeah it's uh it's crazy that that man is not being

01:16:10.420 paraded around the whole country like i said speaking at public schools or private schools

01:16:15.860 or speaking to universities or you know i i told him if you even want to just do a speaking tour

01:16:21.380 i mean i'd gladly organize a cross canada tour that he could just do on his own because i think

01:16:27.700 he would get a heck of a turnout honestly yeah yeah he would and what he has to say is of vital

01:16:35.300 importance yes yeah i'm i'm at a conference involving blockchain and artificial intelligence

01:16:43.300 and governance and ethics and all that kind of stuff and i i told the story to uh a group of

01:16:50.420 people today about our meeting with brian and you know brian in that meeting the the the pre-meeting

01:16:57.700 that you and i had with brian tamara um in carol and brian had said something to me he said you

01:17:04.020 know the charter of rights and freedoms would have been impossible without christianity yes

01:17:10.100 and so i was in a conversation actually about ethics so not not to kind of get away from

01:17:14.980 why we're here today like to talk about our origin story but you know there's an origin story about

01:17:21.720 Canada that fits into this because there's Canada's origin story there's Canada in their

01:17:28.460 their self-determination which gave us the charter and then we see what happened 40 years later and

01:17:36.320 now we're seeing we're entering into a world where it's it's about to change drastically again

01:17:42.100 and i'm not sure that we're all prepared for it but what i was arguing in this not arguing but

01:17:49.680 talking about this conversation is we we have to look to our morals as a people in order to

01:17:56.920 go into the future and i think that's a that's really what the convoy was about we we stood up

01:18:03.500 despite what justin trudeau say said and we declared who we were as a nation we showed up

01:18:10.720 with our morals our ethics our values and our principles and we said this is who we are and

01:18:17.080 we've had enough and you guys answer to us and that's that's what it was all about right it's

01:18:24.600 like taking back control of out of control overreach government and saying we've had enough

01:18:31.700 we're here to put a put an end to your your bs but we did it safe and responsibly we did it

01:18:38.500 professionally and we did it truthfully we were honest we did the best that we could

01:18:47.480 and i unfortunately at the end of the day we exposed the amount of corruption that's

01:18:55.040 now been highlighted in our federal government and unfortunately what makes me really sick is that

01:19:01.560 the two of you and a few others that have been charged and sentenced and prosecuted

01:19:07.760 are the ones that are going to have to pay for that.

01:19:12.000 You know, it's your enduring a collective punishment.

01:19:15.800 We have a right time.

01:19:16.600 Right, Tamar?

01:19:20.180 But honestly, I think of all the people that they picked on,

01:19:24.340 they probably picked the best ones

01:19:26.180 because there's not a lot of backing down.

01:19:29.500 And my personality, Tamar's personality is,

01:19:32.340 you want to double down, I'll double down. 0.51

01:19:34.300 Let's go.

01:19:35.040 Let's finish this.

01:19:36.040 and uh that's our personalities and that's why maybe why we're still standing you know three

01:19:40.800 and a half years later through this and it's been it's one of the reasons why we're doing this show

01:19:45.620 i mean honestly you know i i i don't want to make light of our situation because we do have a very

01:19:52.140 this is a very serious situation that we found ourselves in and i mean i think as much as you

01:19:58.800 know the judge when she sentenced us said she was being lenient because she didn't want to deter

01:20:02.800 people from uh the right to peaceful assembly well i mean what is 18 months as a sentence and

01:20:08.820 three and a half years of lawfare i mean if that's not a deterrent i don't know what is

01:20:13.240 but so i mean yes it is a very serious issue but i think one of the things that i mean helps chris

01:20:18.480 and i myself for sure is just having a sense of humor about it i mean i'm not allowed i'm 53 years

01:20:25.400 old i'm a grandmother i'm usually sleeping by 8 39 o'clock at night i'm not even allowed to drop

01:20:30.620 my grandkids off at their school you know what i mean and in the meantime like i said we watch

01:20:36.580 these criminals walking they're out on bail they're getting light sentences or no sentences

01:20:41.400 and so i think a lot of it is just you know we have to kind of have a sense of humor about all

01:20:46.880 of this too i mean tucker carlson said it best mock them mock them all it's what they hate the

01:20:52.080 most i i'm here driving around the countryside working i was actually coming through medicine

01:20:57.340 and had what a couple days ago it was seven o'clock in the morning and I thought you know

01:21:01.560 it's breakfast time I could stop at truckers in Redcliffe for breakfast and I texted Mary and I

01:21:06.040 said hey you up for breakfast this morning I guess not turns out I kept going I had to get delivered

01:21:11.820 but I don't want to go spend the rest of this 18 months in Ottawa sorry and I'm allowed to eat it

01:21:17.480 says that right on my order I said I'm allowed to stop for fuel and food in restaurants so I'm

01:21:23.140 if you see me in a truck stop somewhere and many people have in the last couple of weeks

01:21:27.080 um i stop for my meals when it's time yeah do you guys uh it is we've been live for about an hour

01:21:35.280 and 20 minutes do you guys want to maybe just take some questions or go through some of these

01:21:39.500 comments in the chat yeah i love seeing where people are from by the way i love it if you see

01:21:45.300 my eyes going over there and i yeah i saw quebec i saw ontario alberta well all over actually

01:21:51.920 um we've got 3,483 people watching live right now that's pretty awesome

01:21:58.220 um it's pretty bad the bail and release program you guys should have never been charged

01:22:05.380 yeah it is pretty bad well you get you get released on bail unless you're a mischief

01:22:10.140 making grandma in which case you're like awesome yeah cam loops cape breton

01:22:18.480 Hmm Wow, St. John's New Brunswick nice Orangeville, Ontario

01:22:24.840 Pembroke, Mexico

01:22:27.000 Nice. Yeah, we've got a few people from Mexico Manitoba. Oh my gosh. I had to miss you

01:22:33.120 Story the other day that story will never get old

01:22:37.120 Hey truth, yes, I met you at your first show in Calgary. Oh

01:22:43.320 Yes, I remember that I

01:22:45.660 remember you truth

01:22:47.660 anybody going through the whistle stop cafe in mirror alberta give it a stop i i frequent that

01:22:52.880 every time i was actually thinking about that the other day but it was a little far off my road i

01:22:56.360 would have ripped up and had a had a bite to eat at chris's restaurant there he unbelievable food

01:23:00.980 and a must stop if you can go out of your way just rip off highway 2 and and over to 21 and

01:23:06.100 just give it a stop it's it's incredible the burgers are to die for i call him and chris and

01:23:12.540 uh him and al adam skelly the ogs i mean they were kind of like the original people that stood up

01:23:18.800 against all this nonsense right so you know i i remember when i met chris uh scott and i'm standing

01:23:25.140 there i'm at the swiss and i'm looking at this guy i'm like man you look so familiar to me were

01:23:30.480 you posted to cfp kingston when i was there or something like that and he's like yeah i'm chris

01:23:37.060 i'm like oh my god i'm such a dumbass like and uh yeah like i agree like you know adam chris

01:23:46.660 you know the originals like i for me it was like uh like when i got to ottawa for the convoy and i 0.86

01:23:53.460 got to meet like danny and i you know all these people like chris and and everyone you're talking

01:23:58.900 about i was like this is amazing i get to meet these amazing people that that stood before

01:24:06.420 i was ever even in the picture and if i can help them i'm going to help them right

01:24:10.900 because these people had balls of steel and stood their ground and led the way to to make

01:24:18.500 it possible for me to even be involved in the convoy to help like these are these are just

01:24:23.780 like the very first people that stood up and it stood out were incredible to me just such an

01:24:28.660 inspiration i remember to reach now to chris scott too via social media and then got his contact

01:24:33.620 information and he was not planning on going to ottawa but i kind of made the point i'm like chris

01:24:39.140 you were like the person that i watched the most you have a big foot in this whole movement right

01:24:43.780 now you need to be or if you can be there with us in the last minute he he pulled up stakes and he

01:24:49.620 came with us so yeah jess yeah there was a lot of people that weren't coming and then ended up

01:24:57.620 coming the greatest stories are the ones that you know people just hopped in their car they thought

01:25:01.540 they'd travel with us for a couple hours or maybe to the border and they ended up like driving all

01:25:06.180 the way to ottawa with no like luggage or no supplies or nicole nicole one of like nicole hunt 0.99

01:25:13.060 from north battleford north north battleford you know had her two truck two two children two 0.99

01:25:17.620 teenage kids well under teenage i guess in the cab of a truck that she'd owned for a few weeks

01:25:23.140 and thought we'll just go to regina well maybe we'll go to winnipeg yeah this is awesome

01:25:28.100 and when i was arrested and was planning my return i had to phone nicole and say it's it's time to go

01:25:34.260 and she wanted to stay and fight and she'll watch this video and i'll get a message you know

01:25:39.380 afterwards and she cried and she said i i need to stay and i said i don't think you know having two

01:25:44.500 children in the cab of that truck right now with what's coming is is is good and she shed a few

01:25:49.060 tears and and then she followed us home afterwards and that was it it was you know a solemn drive

01:25:56.660 yeah yeah what about kim can imagine you know kim kennedy her and her daughter decided at 10

01:26:02.740 o'clock at night hey you want to drive to ottawa yeah okay and off they went yeah you know incredible

01:26:09.780 stories yeah we intend to showcase those too like going forward exactly like we just we're going to

01:26:18.740 get some of these stories from people and have them on and i mean i want to have we need a story

01:26:24.260 behind that toilet that sat on elbert street that people could throw their parking tickets in right

01:26:29.620 you remember that oh my gosh do you remember the freedom puppies i thought i found this when i was

01:26:40.660 downstairs and it was from the people that had that i won't read it all but it says i don't know

01:26:45.540 how i ended up with it it was just at the swiss hotel when i got out of jail and a whole bunch

01:26:49.300 of mail there but it says dear arm friar support camp and team um well i'll just read it quick we

01:26:55.700 left saskatoon on january 24th i'll do it this way on the convoy for freedom we never imagined that

01:27:02.820 it would have turned into the absolutely epic wild ride it has been as we traveled down the highways

01:27:08.500 and through the cities and towns we were cheered on by thousands of flag waving people jumping

01:27:13.700 cheering and crying it was extremely overwhelming we never expected it to be as supported as it has

01:27:20.100 been we were fed and cared for so tremendously through our throughout our 3500 kilometer trip

01:27:26.900 up to ottawa that we hadn't spent a dime on food when we rolled into ottawa the locals were so

01:27:32.660 supportive that again was overwhelming we had our pregnant yorkie with us who delivered her litter

01:27:37.540 of five pups on february the 5th in our bunk while we were parked in gridlock on kent street

01:27:42.420 we called these pups the convoy puppies but all the people started calling them the freedom

01:27:47.900 puppies and they were very important to the locals representing new life i remember that

01:27:52.280 we held the line till february the 19th when all hell broke loose and we were the last block to

01:27:57.800 leave as we had seen the riot squad coming down kent street we ended up here at your camp this

01:28:03.980 is an arm prior remember early evening on the 19th and have stayed here and watched your camp grow

01:28:09.660 tent by tent and witness the tremendous local support you have received with food and supplies

01:28:14.440 of every kind we were again so well taken care of and we just really want to thank you for all the

01:28:19.960 people oh sorry we just really want to thank you for all your supreme generosity and love

01:28:25.540 what trudeau and satan meant for evil god has turned to good the people have united so immensely

01:28:32.180 from every background and are continuing to hold the line and fight for freedom we will continue

01:28:38.020 our fight from freedom from

01:28:40.100 Saskatchewan

01:28:41.860 at home and we'll pray for

01:28:44.140 you as you all continue

01:28:46.260 to carry the torch in Ottawa.

01:28:48.040 We love you all. God bless and keep you safe.

01:28:50.100 Hold the line. Love and prayers. Jake

01:28:52.020 and Lynette Klaassen and of

01:28:54.120 course Keeley and the Freedom Puppies.

01:28:58.260 As I hear my dog Zippy barking

01:29:00.140 out in the garage right now, somebody's obviously in the yard.

01:29:03.280 Yeah, we'll

01:29:04.460 cut this one off here.

01:29:06.100 Tom, I want to thank you. I know you're busy.

01:29:08.020 really thank you for taking the time for coming on um down there in washington dc

01:29:15.060 yeah you know what i thanks for for thanks for doing this every week you know i think it's

01:29:22.100 important because the one thing that i've often said is we're never going to get to healing until

01:29:28.420 we get to accountability accountability first here we go and i so i'm sitting here on a podcast live

01:29:34.340 uh with with thousands of people watching two people that are suffering the accountability

01:29:39.660 right and i think this podcast is important because maybe we can get to some of the healing

01:29:46.820 some of the discussion talk about it it's not about reliving the old you know the the glory

01:29:52.340 days of the convoy it's just about acknowledging what we all experienced and telling that the story

01:30:00.320 from behind the scenes you know like how i felt about you guys the things that you guys had did

01:30:05.600 that i was just in awe of and i'm like man i'm lucky to be here i am i am very lucky and i and i

01:30:13.840 the last thing i'm going to say tamara is your book hold the line okay you got arrested for

01:30:20.160 saying hold the line you know and who is it out west right now that's using minchi hold the line

01:30:27.360 let's see if he gets arrested let's see if there's any any accountability there

01:30:35.680 well it's interesting because he's basically using that as a term because

01:30:40.240 he wants to overthrow the government right so I mean here here it's okay for

01:30:44.540 Nahid Nenshi to say hold the line and talk about dismantling the UCP

01:30:49.020 government which is totally okay I say it in response to somebody literally

01:30:54.680 response to somebody and uh i'm under house arrest for 18 months yeah he is a very

01:31:00.660 hi sam i don't know if you recognize my mother or not sam but i'm i

01:31:05.300 tonight just for you i saw you go back to the the days of uh the the pandemic and the lockdowns and

01:31:13.380 all that and some of the things that nenshi said about people and i can't find the video right now

01:31:17.900 of him calling us all thin-veiled white nationalists and let's face it these people shouldn't

01:31:25.180 eat like yeah the most vile and disgusting things came out of a mayor's office from calgary and now 0.96

01:31:32.700 he's literally ndp pawn of the week it seems like yeah it's pretty disgusting to see our politicians

01:31:39.260 being like that especially somebody like that that should know about any of them i mean doug

01:31:43.660 for its behavior I can't even believe these are adults I don't it's just gonna

01:31:47.740 make me want to curse and swear and say the f-word I mean we don't do that you

01:31:52.960 know that's great and I mean can we just grow up and get some adults back to this

01:31:56.740 table that are gonna behave like adults I mean if it was my children calling 0.99

01:32:01.120 people names and behaving in such a way they'd get their butt spanked well let's 0.98

01:32:05.200 face it being a politician is a thankless job from the lowest level of 0.98

01:32:08.980 gov you know your governing bodies to the highest and and a lot of times

01:32:12.880 people have been so busy right now with work and raising a family and providing that that we've

01:32:17.760 taken that priority and so those people that shouldn't have had those positions of power

01:32:22.560 are in those positions of power because we've allowed it so i've seen a lot of people stepping

01:32:26.960 up the last number of years and becoming part of the system and changing from within and

01:32:32.160 congratulations because that's how it's done all right and i agree i agree and i want to say one

01:32:36.800 more thing andrew lawton is a federal member of parliament he was there with us he witnessed it

01:32:43.040 he saw it he experienced it matt strows doctor you know he he he pushed back he spoke the truth he's

01:32:50.960 now a federal member of parliament aaron gun aaron gun spoke the truth he saw it you know he's out

01:32:57.200 there um uh oh god i can't believe um i'm forgetting his name but he's in niagara west

01:33:04.560 uh dean allison dean allison was a federal conservative he's the one who got the meetings

01:33:10.560 with james top in the conservative party you know there are some good ones so i don't subscribe so

01:33:15.840 much to this 338 or how many ever they are now but you know there are sparks there are shining

01:33:21.920 lights within in the government that are are us there are people and they're in there they're

01:33:28.240 trying to make a difference i'm i'm just i'm praying and hoping that the system itself doesn't

01:33:33.760 gobble them up and spit them out but it's our job to keep them and yes i kind of want to keep

01:33:39.840 reminding them of that and yeah like you named one hell of a name there when you said andrew

01:33:43.920 lawton yeah he is very vocal in the house of commons and his videos are very doing quite well

01:33:50.400 and yeah andrew amazing guy yeah yeah he's absolutely nailing it yeah leslyn lewis she's

01:33:56.560 doing an amazing job i see aaron gun's name on here again too yeah i mean yeah that's right you

01:34:02.320 know it it's it just needs takes people um that want to make positive change to get involved and

01:34:08.320 yeah you're right tom it's encouraging that that's happening i mean we've all been preaching

01:34:12.960 preaching that for so long but to see people actually getting involved and getting into those

01:34:16.800 and it doesn't even have to be like the member of parliament level just sitting on a local

01:34:21.040 school board or you know getting into municipal politics or anything like that yeah maybe hearing

01:34:28.400 you guys uh i love hearing you guys talk about your experiences well god bless you thank you

01:34:36.320 thank you i was going to say maggie braun is somebody who's not elected but she's making

01:34:40.880 a difference in politics yeah and maggie maggie was with us in ottawa she was she was her was

01:34:46.880 she arrested i think she was arrested yes she was she had a gun pointed at her head yeah and we we

01:34:52.560 the first time i met maggie was at the poec when when nervous maggie testified publicly there and

01:34:58.400 you know that's another whole story in itself isn't it guys where we can tell our experience

01:35:04.240 from the poec oh boy we got so many stories to tell but i don't even know how we're going to 0.99

01:35:10.760 squish this into 18 months honestly but yeah honestly but i think well you guys um gotta

01:35:17.740 love your podcast who thanks you guys like i said you know we're just getting started we're just

01:35:22.220 doing our best it's going to take us a little while to get everything nice and pretty and slick

01:35:25.980 but you know we'll get there and i know we sure appreciate um sharing this time with you sharing

01:35:31.420 our stories with you um we hope that this show will give you a bit of an insight into who we are

01:35:37.260 and and um you know why why we do what we do and also not only that but we got to keep you informed

01:35:42.620 of what's going on with our exciting house arrest um i've got the ditches all dug in the backyard

01:35:49.180 now i'm just gonna have to get a pickaxe and start smashing boulders now we uh we recently

01:35:55.020 in our little village of stewart valley saskatchewan there's an old general store that's

01:35:58.700 mounted on blocks there and uh i placed a very cheap bid in on this for our local and they

01:36:03.820 wanted it destroyed and removed and i put a cheap bid on it and i got it so now we're at this

01:36:09.260 predicament right now we have to move a building it's 30 feet by 40 feet so next week i hope i'm

01:36:15.340 done this by then this building will be preserved in our yard it is a building that i used to go

01:36:20.460 into as a young child with my grandfather and he used to allow me to have a treat and you can still

01:36:26.860 see in the corner of the building where the original coffee rooms used to sit so i'm excited

01:36:31.100 next week it's going to be a busy week but it's history and we're we're kind of liking to preserve

01:36:35.980 it here yeah awesome well hopefully danny will be back next week like i said i think he i know

01:36:41.340 he was running late from work so he didn't get to make it today um next week i think i think on my

01:36:45.980 little sheet i just had next week talking about the journey but we'll just continue the discussion

01:36:49.980 really from from where we left off and um i've got some things in mind for our next uh set of guests

01:36:57.740 and so uh we'll discuss that and get that all set up for the third thursday of next month so

01:37:03.740 anyways um and we just want to thanks again for coming tom and thank you all for joining us

01:37:08.860 tonight i will get offline and try and get this uploaded and we will see you all next week on

01:37:14.940 house arrest thanks guys have a great week thank you bye-bye

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