48 Days: Trump’s Path to Victory
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Sen. Brian Schatz (D-Illinois) joins Jack and Jack to discuss the latest in the latest White House press briefing room regarding the latest assassination attempt on President Donald Trump. Plus, a look at the latest polling numbers from the latest CNN/Gallup poll, and a look ahead to the mid-terms.
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Hezbollah is stunned and crippled by this brazen, highly coordinated attack.
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Thousands of wireless pagers, which Hezbollah uses to communicate and carry out its own attacks, simultaneously exploding across Lebanon.
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Two days since somebody allegedly tried to kill Donald Trump again.
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And you're here at the podium in the White House briefing room calling him a threat.
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How many more assassination attempts on Donald Trump until the president and the vice president and you pick a different word to describe Trump other than threat?
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For you to make that kind of comment in your question, because your question involved the comment and the statement, that is also incredibly dangerous.
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The millions and millions of illegals who have come across that border since the borders are Kamala Harris and Joe Biden open it wide, is we know six or seven states have already done their own audits.
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They've proven you've got thousands and thousands of illegals on the voter rolls right now.
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You know, if you have just a small percentage of those millions of people that try to participate, you can throw the outcome of the election.
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We have to make sure that before someone registers to vote, they prove that they are a U.S. citizen because that is existing federal law.
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I don't know how any rich person or any person that's in business can even think of supporting her.
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An unrealized capital gain tax that will drive every business out of the United States.
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So this is before, like right when the pandemic was striking.
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I mean, look, you had home loans at three and a half percent, right?
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Car loans, car loans, 5.2 percent credit card interest rates, which are always terrible.
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So the idea of the Fed cutting interest rates would be these numbers would start to come down.
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What do you tell people who wake up, frankly, each morning wondering, how am I going to get by financially?
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Yeah, I tell them that Kamala Harris and I know something about it.
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Our family sit at the table trying to pay the bill.
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Some pretty horrid things occurring to domesticated animals in the neighborhood.
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If one person had called me and said, I'm seeing this in Springfield, we maybe let that pass.
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When four, five, six, seven people are telling me they call it, they see something in Springfield
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and on top of it, that there are certain people who refuse to listen to them, who refuse to
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That's when it's my job as a United States Senator to listen to my constituents.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily here live, Washington,
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You have to understand, as my friend Charlie says, election day is not the first day to vote.
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And with all the craziness that's been going on over the past couple of weeks, do you really
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think you want to gamble with just voting on election day?
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Because you never know what's going to happen in those swing states.
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So, I'm going to challenge you and all the listeners here.
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And also, by the way, what are you doing to get involved?
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And also, by the way, we're going to have a contest coming up.
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And we're going to go over those with Roger Stone, our next guest here, very soon.
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But basically, what people have to understand, Donald Trump came out of the debate with higher
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So, for all the people out there who said, oh, well, she got the better of him in this
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debate, and he didn't land this punch, and he could have done better.
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The other piece that I wanted to get out, the extremely important piece out of Ipsos,
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This is the reason they're terrified of talking about immigration.
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Because right now, Ipsos shows the majority of Americans support mass deportation of undocumented
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86% of Republicans, 48% of Democrats, 58% of independents, and 25% of Democrats.
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The number one issue of the election, the number one issue of 2024.
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Kamala Harris is terrified to make this election about the mass migration, the millions coming
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into this country because, because she knows that if that is the case, then this story will be the one
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Folks, when I look at the polls, when I look at the Gallup, this also goes back to the
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They've been telling us that Kamala Harris handily won the debate.
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They've been telling us that she's the one who took off.
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Well, really, because the only issue that anyone's been talking about after the debate has been
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And now we get this Ipsos poll coming out that's saying the majority of Americans support
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the mass deportation of undocumented immigrants.
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Roger Stone joins us now to talk about the state of the race 48 days out.
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I can't imagine anything better than a night with Jack Posobiec, Tucker Carlson, and Alex
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I hope that there won't be any dirty tricks, though.
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Tucker's doing these great tours all over the country, shedding the truth against the
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I still think that President Trump outpaces Kamala Harris in every area in terms of voter
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expectations as to who would do a better job on the economy, keeping the peace.
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The administration is hurtling towards World War Three, and they, I think, recognize Donald
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You have Kamala Harris and Hillary Clinton openly saying that they want to lock up anybody
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whose political opinions they deem to be incorrect, what they call misstatements, but others may
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And you have now a second assassination attempt on Donald Trump where there are more questions
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We're expected to believe that a man who's unemployed, who lives in Hawaii, but voted in North Carolina,
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and it has no visible means of support nor income, has a failed business, yet he's online
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He's visited Ukraine multiple times, meaning he's definitely on the radar of our national
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security folks, hides for 12 hours outside a golf course that we're not even certain Donald
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Trump is going to play golf at, is parked in one place but goes largely undetected, is able
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to get off shots, yet still get in his car and drive 50 miles north on 95, only to be apprehended
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because some civilian had taken a picture of the license plates.
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This boggles the mind, but as you know, I predicted as early as 2017 for an interview
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for the New American magazine that they would ultimately seek to assassinate Trump once they
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learned that he couldn't be bought, he couldn't be bossed, he was not going to walk away from
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his anti-war, pro-peace, pro-American prosperity positions.
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So these events obviously have an effect on the race.
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Meanwhile, Jack Kamala Harris does great in a debate in which she seems to have memorized
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But when asked the same question as Donald Trump, how would you actually lower prices?
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Trump gives you a concrete point-by-point plan, and she spits out what she remembered from
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the debate about growing up in a middle-class neighborhood and everybody liking their lawn.
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It's embarrassing, but it just shows you her debate performance was completely rote.
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It was all memorized, probably on the basis of questions given to her by the folks at ABC,
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Roger, I'd love to ask you this question because we have the numbers that come out from Gallup
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now, and the Gallup numbers show quite convincingly that Trump's favorability went up during the
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And yet for the past week, and this is Gallup, by the way, this is one of the most respected
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by the mainstream media national pollsters out there, certainly one of the oldest ones,
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How could it be then that the media spent an entire week telling us that Kamala Harris
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was the winner of the debate, when here we have some data showing that the American people
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What we saw was not a debate, it was a mugging.
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Donald Trump is the master of the reaction shot, yet there's not one throughout the debate.
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That's because they purposely put a light in his eyes that literally blinds him, so he's
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They give him a short microphone stand, so he has to lean over to be heard.
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They clearly share not only, I think, the questions, if not the questions themselves, the subject
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of the questions, as well as assuring her that they're not going to raise questions about
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her record as a district attorney or attorney general.
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This was a rote performance, all memorized on the basis of a script she was given.
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The president's put at a disadvantage, however, he comes back so strong in the close, nailing
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his key points about open borders, about looming World War III, about energy costs, that he
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She won only in the sense that she was better than you expected her to be, given the fact
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that she can't answer an off-the-cuff question.
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So, yes, I will concede her performance while trying to reinvent herself on every issue,
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with Trump being fact-checked relentlessly, with the fact-checkers actually lying, because
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at least eight states do allow, don't limit the time on which a woman can have an abortion.
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By the way, Roger, I don't know if you, or I think you saw last night that as we've been
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getting more of this information regarding the debunks of the fact-checks, I've actually
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tracked down David Muir's cell phone number, and I've been sending him the new videos coming
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out from Chris Rufo, and now this past video from the Springfield city manager, where the
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Springfield manager is the one saying that he has received reports of people eating domesticated
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And so the idea is that this is the same city manager that David Muir brought up.
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So he hasn't responded yet, but I will let everyone know what his response is when he
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Look, as I said online, I thought that was savage.
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Look, the bottom line of this is this debate did not change much.
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Donald Trump is locked in a very tight race where the mainstream media continues to work
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hand in glove with the Democrat to try to reinvent who Kamala Harris is.
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Let's pretend that she they asked about Obamacare, but they never asked her about her plan to
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have U.S. taxpayers finance every dollar of health care for every single person who's
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in the country illegally or to no longer make coming in the country a criminal act if you
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are here, you know, if you come here illegally now to decriminalize it, that she's going to
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open the detention centers and let every illegal who's already being detained in the country
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But that's not the that's not Kamala Harris they want you to know about.
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Roger, what it seems to me, though, is that people would say that Trump came across as
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somewhat angry during the debate now, and I would agree with that.
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And certainly the president has himself said, yes, I am angry.
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And a lot of people said I remember saying that very evening that people say, oh, that was
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the wrong note. But I remember saying at the time that if there are people who are currently
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angry about the state of the country, and if you look at right track, wrong track numbers,
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it certainly seems and you could just ask people on the street or ask people at the grocery
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store how they feel. My wife will tell you they're very angry about the state of the country
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and they want someone to get involved to fix it.
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I want to come back and get your response on the debate and then also the campaign's steps
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in the next 48 days. 48 days to victory. How are you getting involved out there?
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turned on this question of the migrant crisis here in America. And I do think that we need to be
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referring it to as such because this is a created crisis by our government. The federal government has
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come in to subsidize these workers, to subsidize them coming in from places like Haiti and others
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to create these conditions which depress workers' wages in areas like Springfield and southwestern
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Pennsylvania, the Pittsburgh area where they're bringing them into. They then subsidize the
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housing. And it's all being done, by the way. It's all in healthcare and everything else. It's
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all being done with federal dollars. So this is what is rising the poll numbers for Ipsos. It's
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become the number one issue. Again, these are Gallup and Ipsos numbers, by the way, Roger. This isn't
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like something that I just threw together on Twitter. And it seems though the mainstream media
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doesn't want to talk about it. So how does President Trump capitalize on this as well as
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I wouldn't say capitalize, but also given the news cycle of these two assassination attempts
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that have been conducted on him, how does he use all of this energy to hurdle towards victory in 48 days?
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Well, look, I think there's a third thing going on. Anytime that the Chinese and the McCain's and the
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pro-war wing of the Republican Party is endorsing Kamala Harris, but Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Tulsi
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Gabbard and those in the Democrat Party, the common sense Democrats who still love their country and
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are concerned about it, are joining Donald Trump. There's a third huge thing going on here.
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The assassination attempt, sadly enough, speak for themselves. First, they tried to bankrupt him.
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Now they're still trying to incarcerate him. If they cannot do that, as I said all the way back in 2017,
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they will try to kill him. They've now tried at least twice. It's unfathomable that neither one
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of these alleged killers, they've not yet been convicted, you know, were unknown to the government
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or that there could be the level of government standing down that we saw in Butler or seeming
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ignorance as we saw in West Palm Beach. So I think that speaks for itself. The larger issue here is
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one between war and peace. That is the issue on the table. If we're in a thermonuclear war,
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your IVF is not going to be very valuable to you. They try to smear Trump on he'll sign an abortion
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ban. No, he won't. The Republicans are against IVF. No, we just don't want to give it to transgender
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people at taxpayer expense. And thirdly, of course, he is not going to take away your birth control.
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So their campaign is built on a lie. Walls keeps saying he's going to sign a federal abortion ban.
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He's fought very hard to get that back to the states where it is being rightly regulated,
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and that's not his position. But their entire campaign is a campaign of lies. Reinventing her
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is a moderate who will bring us together, and not the hardline Marxist that she is, and then
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trying to continue to assault Donald Trump. Let's point out that the senior advisor to the Harris
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campaign, David Plouffe, called for Donald Trump to be terminated and to terminate others like him
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so they wouldn't rise. If I said that about any Democrat, the FBI would be at the front door
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tomorrow morning. They have bred this atmosphere of hate and division in America, which explains
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Roger, I couldn't agree more regarding that. By the way, of course, we've got the new book,
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But Roger, more to the point, it's not about the fact that we're doing this. We're getting the
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information out there. But one of the things that we talk about in the book, that certainly
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the military industrial complex was someone who would have a potential motive to take out
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President Trump. As we were writing the book, this second attempt took place, which we were able,
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I talked to Tony Lyons, the publisher over at Skyhorse, and I literally told him to hold the
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presses. I actually got to use the phrase. It was great. And we entered another chapter in
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all about this second attempt in which, as you rightfully stated earlier, this guy was directly
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tied to the military industrial complex's designs in the Ukraine war. And there's videos going out
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there talking about how there's this disturbing connection to BlackRock, wherein, no, I don't
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know, I wouldn't say that this individual was directly involved with BlackRock, but certainly
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one of the main areas of interest and precursors to the war is, and incentives to the war, is
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the access to Ukrainian soil, the access to that arable land, that agricultural land, the
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black soil of Ukraine, which is totally controlled by the Ukraine right now, but is not controlled
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by the EU, which means that GMOs, Monsanto, so many others can get in there. BlackRock has
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definitely got designs for this. And Larry Fink and Zelensky have already announced a Ukraine
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development fund that's going to be put into place for the quote unquote rebuilding of Ukraine
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after this. They want to own the land and they want to sell it out. And isn't it quite interesting
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that the individual who almost took President Trump's head off again, this time down at Trump
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International, was directly tied to the foreign fighter efforts.
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Yeah, it's really quite extraordinary. I would admit to, we know that the first alleged shooter
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was definitely in a BlackRock commercial. The second one has a more circuitous connection,
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but it's to the same people. There's all just the question of money. How does a man who has a
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bankrupt business who lives in Hawaii, who's got a Biden bumper sticker on his truck afford to build a
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website to try to recruit mercenary fighters for Ukraine, have the ability to pay for flights to
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Ukraine, visits to Ukraine, have the ability to fly from where he is in Hawaii, even though he voted in
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North Carolina to West Palm Beach, hide out for 12 hours and have none of this be known to the
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government, have him not to be known to our intelligence agencies is not credible. It boggles
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the mind. Well, and Roger, how does someone who is a 20 plus year convicted felon get their hands on
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a modified SKS with an obliterated serial number, sawed off or shaved off serial number and with a scope is
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able to do it. So in Florida, which is a state in which he does not reside. And one of my questions has been
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from the start, did this, and as we know, of course, a collision cop style rifle is being used on both sides of the
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Ukraine war. Is this something that he was able to pick up in Ukraine and then bring back? Or was it something that
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someone over there said that they would help him with? And they were the ones who brought it in? Again,
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it smacks to potential, uh, potential accomplices or potential having help for this event.
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Well, look, I applaud Governor Ron DeSantis for ordering a, a, uh, independent state investigation
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in most of these crimes. Uh, Steve friend, the former FBI agent pointed out that most of the violations
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are actually violations of state law. So having a joint, uh, simultaneous federal state prosecution
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is not all that unusual. I would prefer that the governor not have, uh, David Kerner involved. David
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Kerner is the Democrat who endorsed DeSantis and then, uh, in his reward was appointed head of the
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Florida highway patrol. He's, uh, an anti-Trump, uh, a never Trumper who is, uh, who has, uh, attacked the
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president online. Uh, I'd rather not have him involved in this investigation because, uh, I don't
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trust him, but, uh, the other law enforcement enforcement officials, uh, at the department
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of law enforcement in Florida, uh, will run a very competent and thorough investigation of that.
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I have no doubt. Roger, these stories of assassinations, uh, one of the, I have to say
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though, you know, one of the books that I used as sort of a primer for Bulletproof really was your
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fantastic book all about LBJ and RFK folks. Longtime listeners will know that I've said before that I read
00:28:41.080
that thing cover to cover, uh, while, while aboard the USS Blue Ridge during, doing a transit through
00:28:46.900
the Taiwan straight. And that's really one of the books that, uh, that we used as sort of a primer
00:28:52.420
to be able to write Bulletproof. Uh, thank you very much, Jack. The pull point of course is that in
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this book, I document that the secret service is among those government entities that stood down just
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as they stood down, uh, in Butler, Pennsylvania. You can get the book by not having to go to Amazon or
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Barnes and noble, but go directly to the man who killed Kennedy.com. Uh, you'll get the paperback
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with three, uh, extra chapters. Of course you can, if you want to give your money to a multinational
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corporation, you can go find, you can find, definitely find it on Amazon or Barnes and noble, but you
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always want the paperback edition because it has three additional chapters. Uh, and if you, of course,
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you can go to the man who killed that guy might assign it.
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No, Roger. And as well, we also received the information that there was a secret service
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agent who until the, the, he was on his deathbed, he revealed the, that he had the extra bullet. I
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mean, there's so many things about the JFK assassination that are still yet coming to light.
00:29:49.180
And I certainly hope, and Bobby Kennedy says that he's spoken to president Trump about releasing the
00:29:53.460
documents. And I believe who will Roger, we are just about out of time. Where can people go to
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follow you? Uh, the best place to go is stone zone.com stone zone.com. Uh, you can also find
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us at rumble, uh, where we do the stone zone every day, uh, at 8 PM Eastern. That's of course,
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rumble.com slash Roger stone stone zone. Check them out folks. Roger stone. You need to get in
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Jack, where's Jack? Where's Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you.
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Great job, Jack. Thank you. What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always
00:30:41.100
talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys and these are the guys should be getting
00:30:46.080
published. All right, folks, here we are human events daily. You know, we're always, uh,
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we're always providing new information, new experiences to people out there and information
00:30:56.500
that you need to know. So today on human events, I decided that we would do something a little bit
00:31:02.440
special and I wanted to hold a special tutorial on how to steal a house. You guys have thought
00:31:09.000
about it. I'm sure you've, you've been interested. You've been wondering how do I do that? You know,
00:31:13.100
homes are so expensive these days. I want to get one. Well, I want one option could be stealing
00:31:19.040
one. So in, in order to do so, I thought that we would bring on a former home title thief himself
00:31:25.440
to explain it. His name is Matthew Cox and he is from home title lock. Matthew, how are you?
00:31:31.620
Great. How are you doing? I appreciate you having me on by the way.
00:31:34.840
This is great. Now, now people don't, when I say stuff like that, people say, well, that's crazy.
00:31:39.140
That couldn't possibly happen. Nobody could, nobody could ever have their home taken from
00:31:42.940
them like that. Matthew, is that true? It's absolutely true. Um, it's happening. It's,
00:31:50.620
it's happening more and more all the time. Well, so walk us through then. So walk us
00:31:57.560
through your background and through home title lock, how you got involved in this. And then
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for those out there who are, who are homeowners, I'm a homeowner, I've got a young family and
00:32:07.760
for other people out there who are hearing about this potentially for the first time.
00:32:12.820
So what's happening is, you know, you, your, your title, the title of your home is listed
00:32:20.440
in public records. And what thieves are doing is they're going, well, when I was doing it,
00:32:25.560
I would go down to public records and I'd search the title to your home. I would create a new title.
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I would record that title, which would then remove the title from your name into a stolen
00:32:38.240
identities name or a synthetic identities name. That would then give me the ability to either sell
00:32:43.400
the house or maybe even borrow against the house. It's such an easy crime to do. There were, there
00:32:48.740
are times when I would actually just rent someone's house. I would then steal their identity. I would
00:32:56.040
satisfy any loans on the house. And then I would just refinance the house in the true homeowner's name.
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I'd get a check from the mortgage company. I would put the check in a bank account, let it clear,
00:33:07.920
remove all the money in cash, and then take off. The homeowner wouldn't even realize that I'd done
00:33:12.680
this until the secret service or the FBI, or even sometimes the mortgage companies would start
00:33:18.800
foreclosing on the properties and notify them that, Hey, this is, there's two or three mortgages on
00:33:24.780
your home in your name. So, and so, so at that point then, so they could even be living in the
00:33:33.620
house while you're doing all this, right? This isn't something that, but you know, you went away
00:33:37.300
for vacation and you came in and did this. You could be living in your house. You could be even
00:33:41.700
paying your bills. You could be doing this for, for months or even years. And yet you could be doing
00:33:46.900
this on the side all along. And when it happens, it's going to look like they're the ones who did
00:33:52.380
it. It's going to look like they're the ones who committed the fraud because your name was,
00:33:56.640
wasn't even on anything. Correct. I I've actually done it before where
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the victim was actually picked up by the police, brought downtown and questioned for four or five
00:34:06.080
hours because the police believed that he had borrowed multiple mortgages on his own home
00:34:10.400
fraudulently. Of course that wasn't the case. And he was, luckily he was able to convince them that
00:34:15.400
he, that his identity had been stolen, but still that's four or five terrifying hours for him.
00:34:20.680
And, and by the way, I have no doubt he thought his, his home's title was perfectly safe.
00:34:28.200
He'd never heard of this. And I'm sure that, you know, when you're talking about like local police,
00:34:34.480
et cetera, they probably never heard of such a thing either. Well, when I was doing it,
00:34:38.880
it wasn't as prevalent as it is now. You hear about it more and more in news. Now I don't,
00:34:44.640
I think the most, the, probably the one case that's come to light that people started hearing
00:34:50.700
about it and they're starting to go, Oh wow. Is that a real thing? Is, is Graceland? I'm sure,
00:34:55.940
you know, do you, do you know what happened with Graceland? Elvis's former home is now a museum.
00:35:00.500
I've seen the headlines, but I'm not as intimately familiar with the details.
00:35:04.100
So what happened was that, uh, that Lisa Marie Presley had died, right? Uh, Elvis's daughter and
00:35:13.900
a home title thief came in and created a fake company, filed a mortgage on the property and
00:35:21.460
started a foreclosure process, hoping that she would be able to foreclose on Graceland
00:35:28.140
before anybody realized what was happening. And in the confusion, she was hoping that the,
00:35:35.160
the people that were now in charge of the estate would not realize that, um, that Lisa Marie had
00:35:43.260
never borrowed any money from this, this fake mortgage company. And luckily, uh, Elvis's granddaughter
00:35:49.640
realized my mother never borrowed this money. She immediately got an attorney. She was able to
00:35:54.160
stop the foreclosure process the day of the foreclosure. So, you know, that's a, that's a,
00:36:00.180
an extreme case, but it lets you know that, look, this isn't something that's not happening.
00:36:05.380
You're only hearing about this case because it's Graceland, but it happens all the time.
00:36:12.180
So again, this is the situation where no, no, obviously let me ask you this though. When you were
00:36:17.720
doing this, obviously that's an extremely high profile situation. One that's going to have a lot of
00:36:23.200
lawyer is one that's going to have a lot of eyeballs on it. Is that the type of victim that
00:36:26.580
you would choose? Is that the kind of target that you would look for? No, I, I think that this woman
00:36:31.160
was, she was delusional. I mean, I don't know what made her think that, that she was going to be able
00:36:36.460
to pull this off. What's much easier to do is to drive through a residential middle-class neighborhood,
00:36:43.340
pick a house, go research the title to that house and transfer the title of that house into a stolen
00:36:50.760
identity's name, satisfy any loans that are on the house, and then try and resell the house or even
00:36:55.540
borrow money against the house in the stolen identity's name. And that's something that I've done
00:37:01.160
many, many, many times in the past. And when I did it, you used to have to go downtown. You would
00:37:07.080
actually have to, I'd have to physically go downtown to public records, research the records, and I'd have
00:37:14.040
to go to a mortgage company, apply for a loan. I'd have to go to a closing. Now you can do all of this
00:37:19.420
sitting in your local coffee shop. You can get on their wifi with your computer. You can search public
00:37:25.220
records online. You can create the documents in word. You can file those documents online. You can
00:37:32.380
schedule, you can apply for the mortgages. You can schedule closings. You could even have the closings
00:37:37.400
to those, uh, for those loans online. You don't even have to go to the closings in most, in most
00:37:44.460
states. You can just do it through a, um, a remote notary. I believe this is what this called. And then
00:37:49.340
you can have that money wire transferred into bank accounts that you've opened online. So you can
00:37:55.920
imagine how much now than it was when I was doing it. So basically you're, you're, and how long ago
00:38:01.700
were you doing it? It was 20 years ago. I went to prison for, for this specific crime. I went to prison
00:38:07.340
for nearly 13 years. Yes. So, so this is 20 years ago and you're saying that basically you're,
00:38:14.080
you're trading on the home, getting, even getting into other homes using this identity theft all
00:38:19.620
because you were able to all through public records, you were able to access. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't
00:38:26.460
have to steal anything. It's all available online. It's all available. Anybody can do it. You can go
00:38:32.000
look up to your neighbor. And it's so much easier. And then, by the way, this is before the Zillow era
00:38:38.500
before truly, uh, and all these things where when you go on those sites, there's so much publicly
00:38:44.040
available information on there. You can see when a home was bought. You can see when a home goes up
00:38:48.360
for sale automatically. You don't even have to drive around anymore and look for, for sale signs and
00:38:52.120
everything. It's all right there. Correct. Correct. And the, the other interesting thing is that even
00:38:58.860
if you were to say to yourself, Hey Matt, I, you, I have identity theft protection on my identity.
00:39:05.280
You couldn't steal my identity. Well, the truth is if I get your full name off of the, the warranty
00:39:11.520
deed on your home, I don't have to steal your name. I don't have to steal your, I don't need your
00:39:16.540
social security number or your date of birth. I just need to make a fake driver's license using your
00:39:21.420
name. I can have a different social security number. I can have a different date of birth
00:39:24.820
and I can simply sell the house, or I could go to a hard money lender and borrow against your home.
00:39:30.980
These are all things that are, that are very easily done and that people believe that their homes are
00:39:35.960
safe and they're not. So your largest purchase for most people in the United States, and they're
00:39:41.220
extremely vulnerable. People, people put in monitoring, uh, they have monitoring on their credit
00:39:47.280
cards on their bank accounts, but they don't have monitoring on their houses because they think
00:39:53.140
they're safe. That's a great point. That's a great point, by the way, because, you know,
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obviously we live in a world where, and just on a regular basis, I've, I've had people, you know,
00:40:02.740
get into my, my PayPal, my Venmo years ago, things like that, that stuff that I don't even use anymore,
00:40:08.160
by the way, but just, you know, just from like Africa that had nothing to do with anything.
00:40:12.960
And they were able to, you know, trick some ways to get in and then it just becomes such a massive
00:40:16.860
hassle. So we are going to talk more about this, about the threats, but then also how people can
00:40:23.400
use home title lock to fight back. We'll be right back. We are here talking all about how to steal a
00:40:31.420
home with Matt Cox from home title lock. Be right back. Let's continue.
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All right. Jack Posobiec back live here. Human events daily, how to steal a house. So folks,
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your home is vulnerable matt i wanted to ask you in the break there you and i were chatting a little
00:41:35.820
bit oh wait hold on wow so great breaking news actually this just happening right now as as the
00:41:44.460
show is on federal reserve just announced they will be cutting interest rates by 50 50 basis points the
00:41:51.380
first rate cut since 2020 well there you go folks that means that the money is going to be flowing
00:41:57.060
that means the homes are going to be up people are going to be flipping again it's all going to be
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out in the open and there are going to be people out there right now looking to get access to that
00:42:05.400
money with your information isn't that right matt absolutely absolutely well this is this is just
00:42:12.820
going to be a free-for-all then isn't it it's yeah it's becoming that way um for home for a title
00:42:20.340
theft in general but this is just more and more opportunity that's exactly right so tell me you know
00:42:26.840
you you mentioned before so you did this 20 years ago you you know you got busted you you did your
00:42:33.180
time you you paid your debt to society now you're doing home title lock walk me through that process
00:42:38.620
for someone out there who says well wait why should i listen to this guy this guy you know he's he's a
00:42:43.140
bad guy he's a guy who was doing this stuff to people now you're trying to help so tell us that
00:42:48.000
story how did you go from from there to what you're doing now well i think i you know
00:42:54.260
i i always say that you know there's a lot of scam artists or con men or whatever you want to
00:43:01.560
refer to them as they go to prison and and they tend to work on their their next indictment you know
00:43:08.420
they get in there and all they can think about is how to cover up the past and try and get out and
00:43:13.340
commit another crime and and i got in there and i thought i this is just not working for me like this
00:43:17.860
is i i just don't have another prison sentence in me and i think i i think i got to that point where
00:43:25.360
i said hey i really need to get out and try and do something else i need to figure out how i can
00:43:30.320
how i can turn this into a positive and one of the things that always shocked me was that the people
00:43:37.880
that i took advantage of prior to prison they just never had any idea that this was possible
00:43:44.620
they were shocked they they they would say things like oh well i don't i didn't have any i didn't
00:43:50.880
have any uh equity in my home so i didn't think that i was vulnerable to anybody borrowing against
00:43:57.360
my house but the truth is that you don't have to have equity in your in your house so let's say you
00:44:02.920
live in a six hundred thousand dollar home and you have a mortgage on it for five hundred and fifty
00:44:07.620
thousand dollars and you still owe about five hundred and fifty thousand i would just go to public
00:44:11.580
records and i would create a satisfaction of of mortgage from your mortgage company and i would
00:44:17.440
file that satisfaction now of course it's a completely fraudulent document what that did in
00:44:23.160
public records was it satisfied the mortgage on your house now of course the mortgage company doesn't
00:44:29.500
know this they know you owe the money you don't know this you're still paying your mortgage but if i go
00:44:34.380
to borrow money against your house or were to try and sell your house as far as a title company or a bank
00:44:40.320
is concerned there's no mortgage on your house now now your house is worth six hundred thousand
00:44:45.560
dollars it's got six hundred thousand dollars in equity that you didn't think existed so you are
00:44:50.920
vulnerable i would i would create that equity and now your house is worth six hundred thousand and
00:44:56.660
that's if i want to borrow one mortgage what if i borrow two or three at the same time and that's
00:45:01.540
something i've done many times i would go rent someone's house let's say it's worth two hundred thousand
00:45:06.900
satisfy the loans they had in the house and then borrow three mortgages on their house at the same
00:45:12.880
time with three separate lenders with three separate closings i end up with four or five hundred thousand
00:45:20.580
dollars i deposit the money into the bank i remove the money in cash i disappear and the homeowner doesn't
00:45:26.100
even realize what's happened until the mortgage companies start to foreclose
00:45:29.360
so how much could you make off of something like that just ballpark
00:45:36.900
i mean it depends i think i know i still owe six million dollars i know my the dollar amount they
00:45:44.040
said i had done this for was uh roughly 15 to 16 million dollars the fbi said i'd done it i'd
00:45:50.880
committed title fraud on over 109 houses so you know it's it's it's an eight wait wait so let me
00:45:58.860
walk me through those numbers again 15 to 16 million and how many houses 109 is what the fbi said in
00:46:06.800
tampa so and and over what how much what period of time did it take you to get to 109 houses
00:46:14.280
i want to say about two years about two years 109 houses in just two years that's how many you were
00:46:22.020
able to do i had a team so it wasn't just me i wasn't alone wow but yeah there was a it's a
00:46:29.300
considered final fraud and it's it's considerably easy which is the really frightening part about it
00:46:34.900
and it's easier now than it was when i was doing it because if i wanted to borrow money from a bank i had
00:46:41.540
to come up with w-2s and pay stubs i had to create those w-2s and pay stubs i had to create my own fake
00:46:46.400
ids now you can go online and order a fake id from a you know russian website or you can go on to like
00:46:53.960
a website and order pay stubs and w-2s for any year you want they'll create them for you for
00:47:00.380
four or five bucks a piece send them to your email i mean it's it's it's insane how easy this crime has
00:47:08.680
become so explain we may have to be matt we may have to throw to uh jd vance here in a minute so
00:47:15.500
just in the last minute that you have with us tell people how they can go to home title lock
00:47:20.260
and to find out how to protect themselves from people who may be committing these same types of
00:47:25.380
fraud you have to have your your home title monitored it's the only way you can't it's not
00:47:31.920
like your credit where you can lock it it's accessible the information is accessible to someone
00:47:36.340
just like me you absolutely have to have it monitored and you have to have it monitored by
00:47:40.980
a company like home title lock because the great thing about home title lock is that if something
00:47:45.820
does happen they'll act as an advocate to restore your home's title even if the police catch a criminal
00:47:52.840
who's done this they're not going to fix the title for you you're gonna have to go out and get an
00:47:57.340
attorney yourself try and navigate the court system but home title lock will do all of that for you
00:48:03.360
that's incredible so folks go to home title lock.com you can use promo code post so we got jd vance
00:48:11.540
coming up next matthew cox thank you for teaching us how to steal a house ladies and gentlemen as